Speaker 1: What's going on with Clippers fans. Welcome to the brief
post game hang after the Clippers hang a bunch of
points on the Trailblazers. There's a lot of good stuff tonight.
We're gonna talk Jordan Miller, We're gonna talk Norm obviously,
we're gonna talk James Harden. It was good. There was
mostly good. There was some bad first half defense, which
we will for sure get to as well. But for
the most part, I mean that this was an exciting
game from a a We know Norm still got a perspective, right,
we know that that is very real. Despite maybe a
cold start to the second half. We saw a lot
of good stuff from Jordan Miller tonight that I know
guys like the lot that Jam the Potter excited about.
Most Clippers fans should be excited the Jordan Millerman. It's
where's the background. There we go. We got the flair gun. Yes,
the chat, thank you, Matthew Gillespie. Was a nice revenge
game from that weird loss earlier in the season. Nick
Patum mentioned, I think the broadcast mentioned this that Nick
Patumb kind of felt that they remembered that game and
they remember how they didn't play very well and they didn't,
and so it is nice to have the bounce back game.
The bench in this one was also great. The bench
was bad the last time we played Portland for some reason,
so it was it was really good to see the
bench come out and do their thing. If you missed it,
what did Norman have? Twenty eight? Sorry? Norm finished with thirty.
Didn't mean to short henm two points there and pretty
much from the jump he was his usual self right.
The Clippers opened this game with a ten point lead,
not surprising, We're all very used to that at this point.
But Norm Powell was absolutely killing it in the first half.
He was doing everything for the Clippers. In the first half.
He was scoring a bunch, He was grabbing boards both
offensive and defensive. He found guys in an all bench
lineup as a playmaker, which was cool. Came out in
the second half, miss his first couple of shots. That
did not matter. The Blazers really weren't able to contain
him at all, and he was a big part of why.
Kind of like, I think it was a little over
a little under halfway through the third or fourth that
this one. I mean just I was happy for the
fourth excuse me where this one just became, you know,
not not dual for the Blazers. So it's awesome to
see Norm just still doing his thing. I don't know,
I'm not I have nothing left. Really ran out to say, okay,
this is a great point from M seven to M
D Boyd. Norm SAWPG had twenty nine and said, all right,
bet that's hilarious and absolutely true. Norm Palace, fueled by
the fact that Paul Joy it is not good. I
don't know there was some bad news. Thank you Logan
rap for bringing this up. Terrence left with a fair
amount of the fourth quarter left just from a left
finger thing. It's a left middle finger fracture, which I
know there's obviously you know it hasn't been Terrence Man's
best season. Uh you know that aside, he's been great
off the bench recently. He was great the other night
off the bench. Him and coffee off the bench is
really nice to have. That's a bigger loss, and I
think some people are prepared for it to be, if
that makes sense. So this is a good segue into this.
Thank you deca fantastic saying Miller's gonna take Terrence Man's
spot and never give him back. Jordan Miller was great
offensively tonight. I think we all saw that. Right. The
offense was there. He hit a super weird fadeaway floater.
He has determination when he's driving. He found Terrence with
a no look pass, showing that he has confidence. Right,
that no look pass is not something that a rookie
who's not confident tries. So that the offenses is there,
it's awesome to see. He hit threes. Was it more
than one? Sorry it was just one three? Excuse me,
but the offense is there. The defense. If you watch
this game when he's out there at the starters, it's fine.
There was a lapse on a fast break that I'm
sure they're gonna they're gonna talk to him about. There
was an all bench lineup that costs the Clippers the
lead at one point in this game. And the way
that the Wizards, excuse me, the way that the Blazers
confusing my two bad teams. The way that the Blazers
got that lead was by going directly at Jordanville on
the defensive side. Jordan Miller's game. This isn't a knock
on his game as a whole. We're gonna see Jordan
Miller gets singled out very much on defense, which is
not a surprise. He's a young guy in the league.
We know the offense is there. He's talked about and
Tyler you have talked about, you know, wanting him to
play physically without fouling, which is hard to do as
a rookie, and just be more aggressive and stuff like that.
So I'm really interested to see what these minutes look
like tomorrow. KPJ is day to day, which tomorrow is
a day, So that's all I got there. Yeah, the
sky is you know, there's a very real possibility that
Jordan Miller becomes a very good NBA player. He's there
offensively right now to be for sure a contributor, but
the defense is gonna get targeted. Logan Rap, I hope
you're doing well, Logan. By the way, Logan Rap says,
he has a lot of room to grow and I'm
more excited for him next season, but he's still got
a wayte to go right at this moment, and that's
totally fair. That's a completely I agree. I love where
he's at right now, but there is room to grow
and we're going to see him put to the test.
Defensively with with Terrence Man being out, because this does
just open up more minutes for him, right, It's not
Bones isn't going to be taking those minutes with Terrence
Man out. Yeah, So Matthew Gillespie also saying, you know,
he loves Miller's minutes, but we still need the depth
of guys like Man, and we do purely. Even if
you're the biggest Terrence Man hater or whatever, which I
just don't waste your time hating someone like Terrence Man.
He's still a body, and I mean that if your
opinion of him is that low, he's still a guy
who can come in and play basketball minutes. The Clippers
are already down two roster spots with Bones being effectively
totally out of the rotation, PJ not being with the
team quite out obviously, like having any amount of guys
out who are contributing even a little bit is not
ideal for those Clippers team were talking about Margins all
the time, right, Literally, the amount of bodies available who
can play perductive neutral to positive minutes is a thin
margin for this Clippers. So we are going to see
a lot of Jordan Miller, a lot more Jordan Miller,
especially tomorrow night. But again, just watch the defense. That's
all I'm saying. Let's see if he can get better
as the game goes, you know what I mean. Let's
see if he makes a mistake, if he's able to
correct it later in the game. That's what I'm really
looking forward to with Jordan Miller these next However, many
games that he's kind of getting this little spotlight on him.
He's earned Tyler's trust, which title has talked about. But
it's that defense that it's going to be not only
really tested, but very much needed, especially against the Wolves tomorrow,
so brutal for Terrence. I'm gonna fire off a tweet
from the Clippers pod Twitter real Quick metals LU twenty
six with one of the corniest things I've ever seen
in my life. And I don't mean that disrespectfully. Forget
the Splash brothers. We have the Splash family. So I
can't get over how corny that is. That makes me laugh.
And yeah the coaching, Yeah, getting coached by JVG is
really gonna help versus what is happening in the G League.
No disrespect to the G League coaches, but it's a
different ballgame when JVG is yelling at you other things
that we're good in this game. We haven't even really
talked about James Harden. He was not a fish in
the first half, but he came up big in the
second half. That's why you have him. The efficiency, it
is what it is at this point. If you're if
we're hoping for, like, you know, efficient, hardened games, they're rare.
And I don't mean that in a mean way. It's
just that that's the nature of the beast right now
with what's going on. He finished with twenty three. He's
a plus twenty seven. The assists, you know, the assists
were nice. The turnovers, that's what I guess we can
kind of complain about. Those were annoying. But we also
saw right like, we saw what an all bench lineup
looked like without someone who's comfortable initiating the offense. Was
that was some brutal basketball from the all bench lineup tonight.
Harden didn't make some things easier, but he draws a
thank you, Matthew Gilspie. He draws attention. Harden got triple
teams in this game. I think he hit Nico with
the behind the back pass which then led to the
one Jordan Miller three, So like he's very much needed.
We just have to take the good with the bad,
and we got the good in the second half tonight
from James Harden. So it's yeah, he doesn't need to
be efficient if everyone else is going to be crazy
and he helps them be efficient, right, he's the guy
finding them. Derek Jones I thought had a really nice game.
He found norm for like a three quarter court pass
that ended up as a three, which was awesome to see.
He caught a couple of lobs, which I don't know
how teams are letting Derek Jones Junior get a lob
off an inbounds pass, but I'm all for it. Really
needed what he did tonight. It was really good to
see two steals, just to solid exactly what you pay
him for type game from Derek Jones. Someone asked in
the comments, worried about Zoo? It all man, So like
the eight matchup is bad for Zoo. It was bad
the last time they played the Blazers. It's just not
good for Zoo right now. I don't know if I'm
worried about him. He did just have sixteen and thirteen
versus the Timberwolves. So it's like, I don't know, I'm
worried about him. It's just that that matchup sucks and
I'm not the biggest Aton fan, but he has Zoo's number.
We've seen it sometimes way too close in the playoffs.
But you know it's I'm not worried about Zoo. We'll
see what he looks like tomorrow, hopefully. I guess the
one thing you know, as a Zoo guy that is
a I think is a fair knock, is the legs
right that That's kind of what Tyler's talked about, even
Zoo's talked about a little bit in the way that
players can discuss not feeling one hundred percent. But I'll
see what he looks like tomorrow. I think it. You know,
it's annoying when he has to play Eighten because you
just you want him to beat Andre Ayden for what
Aidon did to us, the sons of Clippers fans. So
it's a little weird. Larissa, Hello Larissa. So we advanced
in this mini tournament based on point differential wins. Nope,
we are out of it. Sorry, we are not in
it at all. People were in are saying that like
maybe Zoo is in a slump. He's not in a slump.
He just had a double double in a game that
the Clippers lost. By what. I don't think he's in
a slump. It's just a bad matchup. It's a weird
matchup with Ayden. Ayton kind of picks and chooses when
he wants to be good, which I don't know, that's
just that's me commenting. Yeah, the I think one of
the things we've talked about a lot of good stuff
that happened in this game, the first half defense in
this game was bad. If you watch this game, you
you watch the team. I think this was the first
game where I felt that the Clippers flipped a switch,
if that makes sense. They've been a team that has
refused to flip the switch. And I mean that because
it's always been the proverbial switch has been up, you
know what I mean, Like they've always played at ten
out of ten. It feels like every single game except
for this one. To open this game by open, I mean, really,
the first half, the offense was there, the defense was
not doing its thing. Let's just say and that starters,
that's bench, that's everybody. There were flashes, but still they
gave up a lot of points to a very bad
Trailblazers team. In this first half. They got it together,
they figured it out. But I don't know what's up Spencer.
I hope this isn't the mark of when we start saying, oh,
it seems like the defense is slowing down a little bit.
I hope that doesn't happen. But again, if you watch
this game, the defense was bad on the first half.
They figured it out and I felt like they started
to kind of lock in and you know, more effort,
Like the rotations were there. In the first half, they
were just slow and there just wasn't that bite to
the Clippers defense. So we'll see. We'll see how they
look tomorrow. Tomorrow. I I, you know, I don't really
know what to expect second out of a back to
back against a big team. It's just not just I
hope it's not indicative of of what's maybe coming, which
would be tired legs. I don't mean that disrespectfully. He's
got an older team a little bit, some of the
main guys and stuff like that. They held Simons to
No Simons was great. He had seven points. Chris John
big part of that. But yeah, let's just keep an
eye on the defensive effort to open games for the
next like ten games or so, you know, because this
this tonight was not good defense up in this game.
And I don't think anyone would really argue with me
on that, not that I want to argue. I'll just
listen to your point and you know, maybe agree with
you a little bit. But I mean, although they took
care of business right, they did exactly what they were
supposed to do, which is beat this team that beat
them earlier in the year in a game that they
should have won. And we're here, who cares about the
n season tournament. The process was a little up and
down in this one, but it's a dub right like that.
There's not a lot of things that we can be
upset with when this team's getting consistent wins. James Harden
moved up to seventeenth on the all time scoring list,
which is awesome. Yeah. So for those of you first
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We announce him on YouTube. We announced on Twitter. Coming
you was asking is team Man alright? Heard he got hurt.
He broke his left middle finger. So he has every
middle schooler's favorite cast coming, which is just keeping your
middle fingers straight. Unfortunately, the t Man loss is big.
The Terrence Man loss is It's not. I have a
soft spot for Terrence Man. I'm not gonna be telling
He's had a good start to the year. We have
seen him get better off the bench, kind of get
into the flow of things. So I'm interested to see
what this does to their rotations. We're obviously going to
see more Jordan Miller. We'll see what happens with this
great point in the chat by Jeremy Mormon. No one
playing over thirty two minutes. Getting that hard and rest
was so big. He was at like I think literally
when he was at thirty minutes. I wouldn't. Every Clippers
fan was like, how minutes is I swear once hard
and hit thirty minutes. I felt every Clippers fan who
was watching the game be like, how many minutes is
James Areden gonna have to play in this game? Thankfully
it was only one more than that he was. He
ended up just under thirty two minutes, so that's good
to see. Norm Powell doesn't deserve to be an All Star.
He's killing it. We talked about on this last episode
if you want to watch it after this, about how
he should probably be most improved player. The use that
she's had his percentages, it's incredible. Shout out Terrence Man
and excuse me, well, shout out Terrence ban. Shout out
Norm Powell. I want to give another shout out to
a guy who played surprisingly stellar defense in this game,
and that's Mobamba. Mobamba played annoying ass defense for the
other team in this game. Three boards, two steals, three blocks. Yes,
he threw three foul in the mix, but that's what
you do as a backup center. But now he ripped
the ball away from a blazer. He hit a three.
This was a fun Mobama game. This was kind of
chaotic Mobamba, which I like. I like when he's kind
of buzzing around and using his physicality to rip the
ball away from guys, like he did a couple times
at least one time for sure tonight. So shout out,
shout out Mobamba for that. That was just cool to see.
Good night Metal, So like, thanks for coming through. See
so here's a nice point. I want to share this,
this tweet from Russo, he's given us some good stuff here.
Let me, can you guys see that Jordan Miller where
his confidence level is at. It's definitely going in the
right direction tonight. I wanted to be better defensively. That's
the whole thing with me. Remember that, remember the part
of the Jordan Miller saga. This is the key and
this is what we hope gets better over this next
period of time where he's gonna get another shot. Jordan
Miller was great tonight offensively. I don't want to discredit
anything about what he's doing on the offensive end. He's
going to be targeted on the defensive end. That's how
things go in the NBA. If you're new to the
league and there's maybe some questions about your defense, watch
what happens. If he can correct his mistakes during the game,
it's a great sign. There's someone in the chat was
saying earlier, you know, let's just see where his development's at.
He's getting better coaching, you know, compared to is in
the G League. But let's just you know, let's the
offense is good. The offense I'm very happy about. Uh,
it's just the defense, right that. That's what the focus is.
People are wondering if KPJ is good to go tomorrow.
It's day to day, Tyler said today for KPJ's and
so I don't know, I could see it. Maybe if
you this game tonight showed why KPJ just strictly as
a ball handler is needed for this rotation right now.
So maybe maybe not, we'll see that. Mexican Nara is saying,
that's the user name saying, I don't think losing Terrence
Man is that big of an impact. We have a
lot of guys who can take his role. Terrence Man's
averaging twenty one minutes per game right now. It's a
lot of minutes like to just be gone from this
Clippers team. And again, I know, I know the start
hasn't been ideal. I'm not saying that, but twenty one
minutes from this rotation, which Bones doesn't play, Pg's not
with the team. Kobe's hurt. There's not a lot of
guys who can take his role. Let's put a little
bit or a on what Terrence Man does for this team.
Jordan Miller is gonna get a role, a bigger role, absolutely,
and we'll see if he can replicate some stuff. But
it's gonna be the defensive stuff because Terrence Man's defense
it is nice sometimes and like, Jordan Miller's got to
get to that level. Jordan Miller was the first one
off the bench. He was purely in the KPg kind
of bench role tonight, what's it? Well, this is funny,
Jordan Miller. If Kevin Porter Junior can go tomorrow, Jordan
Miller's gonna get the full Clippers role player experience by
having played one role on Tuesday and then a different
role on Wednesday. So that's a very quintessential Clippers role
player experience for Jordan Miller. Thank you. Logan. Logan is
with Logan and I are some potty good tonight, Logan
saying people are underestimating how much twenty additional minutes. Actually
is it's a lot. It's quite a bit. Chunk Sampson
in the comments, saying, ordering a podcast, Mike tonight, we're
the number three seed? Are we the number three seed?
I think we're still the fifth? Oh wait, no, we
might be the three. Wow, order it, man, go for it, Chunk.
I hope you're doing well. People are saying, maybe Bones
plays tomorrow off kpch doesn't play Bones is I don't know.
I don't know if Bones is gonna be on this
team much longer. There's guys who are elgible to be
traded on the fifteenth. There's guys who are els to
be traded on the fifteenth of January. Like Bones didn't
see the court until this game was fully out of hand,
and I loved Bones. I at one point was a
skeleton keyholder. It's over. I think it's over. I know
that sounds harsh, but there's just something. It's not working.
He has not been good his minutes at all. There's
some people and this is a prevalent thing, and this
is probably the last thing before I head out of here.
I'm tired. We'll probably do a live tomorrow, Chunk saying
there's no reason that KPJ should have any minutes. Did
people watch the all bench lineup that did not have
an actual actual point guard, play initiate or whatever you
want to call it, try and function tonight because it
was very bad. Jordan Miller is not a table center, right,
Jordan Miller is not a guy who initiates the offense.
That's not a knock on Jordan Miller's game, it's just
not what he does. And KPJ is tasked with I
should say he doesn't exactly run it wildly efficiently. KPJ's
a ball handler and an offense initiator, and that's what
the second unit needs. That's why he's getting those minutes.
I'm not advocating for them. That's just what I see
based on everything that people have said within the organization
and just literally what we've seen within the organization. There's
also a thing too, where I think there's a bit
of a redemption story that maybe some people want with KPJ,
Like the Clippers can be like, oh see KPg came
to us, and look how good he actually is. He's not,
but I get the logic of why. I get the
logic of it. I don't necessarily agree with it, but
I understand where's coming from of why he is getting minutes,
So yeah, that's kind of why he's in the rotation.
All in all, great win. You love any twenty point win,
especially against a team that you should have beaten earlier
in the year. It was great to see. I don't
think Zu's in a slump. Norm is the man it
needs to be the most improved player and be it
the All Star Game. And yeah, it was a great
night the Clippers. Tomorrow against the Timberwolves, we'll see where
the legs are at. Norm only twenty five minutes hard
and under thirty two. All the starters played, not that
many down, only played twenty, which made me think, excuse me,
thank you for catching that many. Well, he's not done,
only played twenty. So I think we're gonna see a
lot of Chris done tomorrow. But the last came out
against against the timber Wolves ended so annoyingly. Everyone had
issues with them not fouling or something like that. Let's
hope that it goes better. Splitting the back to back
would be great, is all I'm gonna say about the
game tomorrow. It'll be interesting if the Clippers can score
more than ninety two points. They didn't have Norm the
last time they played the Timberwolves, so we'll see. Oh
and it looks like the two games were scheduled out
of conference, and take that back all right, I'm gonna
head out. All three of us will be back for
y'all on Thursday. I'm gonna do probably a live hang
tomorrow after the game. Whatever happens, watch for Jordan Miller's
defensive growth over this time when Terrence Man is out
the offenses there, we know it's great. Let's hope Norm
can stay hot tomorrow. A big game from Zoo is
needed more a mere coffee sniping is very much going
to be needed. And where are those minutes that Terrence
Man plays are going to go? We will see tomorrow
and another edition of the Days of our Clippers. Thanks
for hanging out and as all wa