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Speaker 1: What's going on with Clippers fans. Welcome to the brief

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post game hang after the Clippers hang a bunch of

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points on the Trailblazers. There's a lot of good stuff tonight.

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We're gonna talk Jordan Miller, We're gonna talk Norm obviously,

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we're gonna talk James Harden. It was good. There was

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mostly good. There was some bad first half defense, which

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we will for sure get to as well. But for

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the most part, I mean that this was an exciting

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game from a a We know Norm still got a perspective, right,

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we know that that is very real. Despite maybe a

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cold start to the second half. We saw a lot

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of good stuff from Jordan Miller tonight that I know

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guys like the lot that Jam the Potter excited about.

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Most Clippers fans should be excited the Jordan Millerman. It's

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where's the background. There we go. We got the flair gun. Yes,

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the chat, thank you, Matthew Gillespie. Was a nice revenge

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game from that weird loss earlier in the season. Nick

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Patum mentioned, I think the broadcast mentioned this that Nick

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Patumb kind of felt that they remembered that game and

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they remember how they didn't play very well and they didn't,

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and so it is nice to have the bounce back game.

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The bench in this one was also great. The bench

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was bad the last time we played Portland for some reason,

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so it was it was really good to see the

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bench come out and do their thing. If you missed it,

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what did Norman have? Twenty eight? Sorry? Norm finished with thirty.

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Didn't mean to short henm two points there and pretty

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much from the jump he was his usual self right.

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The Clippers opened this game with a ten point lead,

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not surprising, We're all very used to that at this point.

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But Norm Powell was absolutely killing it in the first half.

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He was doing everything for the Clippers. In the first half.

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He was scoring a bunch, He was grabbing boards both

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offensive and defensive. He found guys in an all bench

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lineup as a playmaker, which was cool. Came out in

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the second half, miss his first couple of shots. That

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did not matter. The Blazers really weren't able to contain

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him at all, and he was a big part of why.

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Kind of like, I think it was a little over

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a little under halfway through the third or fourth that

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this one. I mean just I was happy for the

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fourth excuse me where this one just became, you know,

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not not dual for the Blazers. So it's awesome to

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see Norm just still doing his thing. I don't know,

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I'm not I have nothing left. Really ran out to say, okay,

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this is a great point from M seven to M

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D Boyd. Norm SAWPG had twenty nine and said, all right,

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bet that's hilarious and absolutely true. Norm Palace, fueled by

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the fact that Paul Joy it is not good. I

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don't know there was some bad news. Thank you Logan

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rap for bringing this up. Terrence left with a fair

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amount of the fourth quarter left just from a left

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finger thing. It's a left middle finger fracture, which I

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know there's obviously you know it hasn't been Terrence Man's

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best season. Uh you know that aside, he's been great

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off the bench recently. He was great the other night

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off the bench. Him and coffee off the bench is

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really nice to have. That's a bigger loss, and I

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think some people are prepared for it to be, if

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that makes sense. So this is a good segue into this.

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Thank you deca fantastic saying Miller's gonna take Terrence Man's

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spot and never give him back. Jordan Miller was great

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offensively tonight. I think we all saw that. Right. The

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offense was there. He hit a super weird fadeaway floater.

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He has determination when he's driving. He found Terrence with

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a no look pass, showing that he has confidence. Right,

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that no look pass is not something that a rookie

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who's not confident tries. So that the offenses is there,

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it's awesome to see. He hit threes. Was it more

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than one? Sorry it was just one three? Excuse me,

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but the offense is there. The defense. If you watch

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this game when he's out there at the starters, it's fine.

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There was a lapse on a fast break that I'm

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sure they're gonna they're gonna talk to him about. There

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was an all bench lineup that costs the Clippers the

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lead at one point in this game. And the way

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that the Wizards, excuse me, the way that the Blazers

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confusing my two bad teams. The way that the Blazers

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got that lead was by going directly at Jordanville on

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the defensive side. Jordan Miller's game. This isn't a knock

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on his game as a whole. We're gonna see Jordan

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Miller gets singled out very much on defense, which is

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not a surprise. He's a young guy in the league.

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We know the offense is there. He's talked about and

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Tyler you have talked about, you know, wanting him to

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play physically without fouling, which is hard to do as

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a rookie, and just be more aggressive and stuff like that.

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like tomorrow. KPJ is day to day, which tomorrow is

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a day, So that's all I got there. Yeah, the

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sky is you know, there's a very real possibility that

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Jordan Miller becomes a very good NBA player. He's there

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offensively right now to be for sure a contributor, but

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the defense is gonna get targeted. Logan Rap, I hope

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you're doing well, Logan. By the way, Logan Rap says,

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he has a lot of room to grow and I'm

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more excited for him next season, but he's still got

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a wayte to go right at this moment, and that's

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totally fair. That's a completely I agree. I love where

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he's at right now, but there is room to grow

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and we're going to see him put to the test.

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Defensively with with Terrence Man being out, because this does

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just open up more minutes for him, right, It's not

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Bones isn't going to be taking those minutes with Terrence

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Man out. Yeah, So Matthew Gillespie also saying, you know,

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he loves Miller's minutes, but we still need the depth

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of guys like Man, and we do purely. Even if

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you're the biggest Terrence Man hater or whatever, which I

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just don't waste your time hating someone like Terrence Man.

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He's still a body, and I mean that if your

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opinion of him is that low, he's still a guy

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who can come in and play basketball minutes. The Clippers

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are already down two roster spots with Bones being effectively

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totally out of the rotation, PJ not being with the

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team quite out obviously, like having any amount of guys

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out who are contributing even a little bit is not

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ideal for those Clippers team were talking about Margins all

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the time, right, Literally, the amount of bodies available who

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can play perductive neutral to positive minutes is a thin

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margin for this Clippers. So we are going to see

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a lot of Jordan Miller, a lot more Jordan Miller,

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especially tomorrow night. But again, just watch the defense. That's

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all I'm saying. Let's see if he can get better

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as the game goes, you know what I mean. Let's

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see if he makes a mistake, if he's able to

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correct it later in the game. That's what I'm really

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looking forward to with Jordan Miller these next However, many

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games that he's kind of getting this little spotlight on him.

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He's earned Tyler's trust, which title has talked about. But

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it's that defense that it's going to be not only

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really tested, but very much needed, especially against the Wolves tomorrow,

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so brutal for Terrence. I'm gonna fire off a tweet

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from the Clippers pod Twitter real Quick metals LU twenty

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six with one of the corniest things I've ever seen

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in my life. And I don't mean that disrespectfully. Forget

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the Splash brothers. We have the Splash family. So I

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can't get over how corny that is. That makes me laugh.

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And yeah the coaching, Yeah, getting coached by JVG is

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really gonna help versus what is happening in the G League.

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No disrespect to the G League coaches, but it's a

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different ballgame when JVG is yelling at you other things

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that we're good in this game. We haven't even really

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talked about James Harden. He was not a fish in

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the first half, but he came up big in the

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second half. That's why you have him. The efficiency, it

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is what it is at this point. If you're if

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we're hoping for, like, you know, efficient, hardened games, they're rare.

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just that that's the nature of the beast right now

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with what's going on. He finished with twenty three. He's

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a plus twenty seven. The assists, you know, the assists

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were nice. The turnovers, that's what I guess we can

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kind of complain about. Those were annoying. But we also

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saw right like, we saw what an all bench lineup

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looked like without someone who's comfortable initiating the offense. Was

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that was some brutal basketball from the all bench lineup tonight.

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Harden didn't make some things easier, but he draws a

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thank you, Matthew Gilspie. He draws attention. Harden got triple

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teams in this game. I think he hit Nico with

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the behind the back pass which then led to the

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one Jordan Miller three, So like he's very much needed.

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We just have to take the good with the bad,

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and we got the good in the second half tonight

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from James Harden. So it's yeah, he doesn't need to

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be efficient if everyone else is going to be crazy

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and he helps them be efficient, right, he's the guy

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finding them. Derek Jones I thought had a really nice game.

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He found norm for like a three quarter court pass

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that ended up as a three, which was awesome to see.

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He caught a couple of lobs, which I don't know

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how teams are letting Derek Jones Junior get a lob

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off an inbounds pass, but I'm all for it. Really

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needed what he did tonight. It was really good to

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see two steals, just to solid exactly what you pay

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him for type game from Derek Jones. Someone asked in

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the comments, worried about Zoo? It all man, So like

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the eight matchup is bad for Zoo. It was bad

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the last time they played the Blazers. It's just not

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good for Zoo right now. I don't know if I'm

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worried about him. He did just have sixteen and thirteen

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versus the Timberwolves. So it's like, I don't know, I'm

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worried about him. It's just that that matchup sucks and

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I'm not the biggest Aton fan, but he has Zoo's number.

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We've seen it sometimes way too close in the playoffs.

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see what he looks like tomorrow, hopefully. I guess the

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one thing you know, as a Zoo guy that is

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a I think is a fair knock, is the legs

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right that That's kind of what Tyler's talked about, even

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Zoo's talked about a little bit in the way that

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players can discuss not feeling one hundred percent. But I'll

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see what he looks like tomorrow. I think it. You know,

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it's annoying when he has to play Eighten because you

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just you want him to beat Andre Ayden for what

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Aidon did to us, the sons of Clippers fans. So

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it's a little weird. Larissa, Hello Larissa. So we advanced

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in this mini tournament based on point differential wins. Nope,

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we are out of it. Sorry, we are not in

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it at all. People were in are saying that like

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maybe Zoo is in a slump. He's not in a slump.

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He just had a double double in a game that

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the Clippers lost. By what. I don't think he's in

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a slump. It's just a bad matchup. It's a weird

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matchup with Ayden. Ayton kind of picks and chooses when

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he wants to be good, which I don't know, that's

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just that's me commenting. Yeah, the I think one of

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the things we've talked about a lot of good stuff

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that happened in this game, the first half defense in

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this game was bad. If you watch this game, you

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you watch the team. I think this was the first

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game where I felt that the Clippers flipped a switch,

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if that makes sense. They've been a team that has

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refused to flip the switch. And I mean that because

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it's always been the proverbial switch has been up, you

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know what I mean, Like they've always played at ten

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out of ten. It feels like every single game except

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for this one. To open this game by open, I mean, really,

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the first half, the offense was there, the defense was

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not doing its thing. Let's just say and that starters,

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that's bench, that's everybody. There were flashes, but still they

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gave up a lot of points to a very bad

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Trailblazers team. In this first half. They got it together,

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they figured it out. But I don't know what's up Spencer.

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I hope this isn't the mark of when we start saying, oh,

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it seems like the defense is slowing down a little bit.

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I hope that doesn't happen. But again, if you watch

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this game, the defense was bad on the first half.

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They figured it out and I felt like they started

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to kind of lock in and you know, more effort,

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were just slow and there just wasn't that bite to

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the Clippers defense. So we'll see. We'll see how they

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look tomorrow. Tomorrow. I I, you know, I don't really

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know what to expect second out of a back to

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back against a big team. It's just not just I

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hope it's not indicative of of what's maybe coming, which

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would be tired legs. I don't mean that disrespectfully. He's

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got an older team a little bit, some of the

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main guys and stuff like that. They held Simons to

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big part of that. But yeah, let's just keep an

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eye on the defensive effort to open games for the

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next like ten games or so, you know, because this

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this tonight was not good defense up in this game.

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listen to your point and you know, maybe agree with

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care of business right, they did exactly what they were

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supposed to do, which is beat this team that beat

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them earlier in the year in a game that they

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should have won. And we're here, who cares about the

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n season tournament. The process was a little up and

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down in this one, but it's a dub right like that.

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There's not a lot of things that we can be

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upset with when this team's getting consistent wins. James Harden

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moved up to seventeenth on the all time scoring list,

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which is awesome. Yeah. So for those of you first

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joining the chat, if this is your first time hanging

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out this podcast, Hello, I'm Chuck Mockler. Usually Adam Oziten,

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postgame lives, it's one of us. It's two of us,

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We announce him on YouTube. We announced on Twitter. Coming

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you was asking is team Man alright? Heard he got hurt.

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He broke his left middle finger. So he has every

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middle schooler's favorite cast coming, which is just keeping your

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middle fingers straight. Unfortunately, the t Man loss is big.

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The Terrence Man loss is It's not. I have a

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soft spot for Terrence Man. I'm not gonna be telling

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seen him get better off the bench, kind of get

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into the flow of things. So I'm interested to see

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what this does to their rotations. We're obviously going to

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see more Jordan Miller. We'll see what happens with this

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great point in the chat by Jeremy Mormon. No one

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playing over thirty two minutes. Getting that hard and rest

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was so big. He was at like I think literally

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when he was at thirty minutes. I wouldn't. Every Clippers

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fan was like, how minutes is I swear once hard

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and hit thirty minutes. I felt every Clippers fan who

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was watching the game be like, how many minutes is

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James Areden gonna have to play in this game? Thankfully

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it was only one more than that he was. He

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ended up just under thirty two minutes, so that's good

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to see. Norm Powell doesn't deserve to be an All Star.

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if you want to watch it after this, about how

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he should probably be most improved player. The use that

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she's had his percentages, it's incredible. Shout out Terrence Man

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and excuse me, well, shout out Terrence ban. Shout out

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Norm Powell. I want to give another shout out to

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a guy who played surprisingly stellar defense in this game,

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and that's Mobamba. Mobamba played annoying ass defense for the

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other team in this game. Three boards, two steals, three blocks. Yes,

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he threw three foul in the mix, but that's what

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you do as a backup center. But now he ripped

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the ball away from a blazer. He hit a three.

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This was a fun Mobama game. This was kind of

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chaotic Mobamba, which I like. I like when he's kind

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of buzzing around and using his physicality to rip the

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ball away from guys, like he did a couple times

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at least one time for sure tonight. So shout out,

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shout out Mobamba for that. That was just cool to see.

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Good night Metal, So like, thanks for coming through. See

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so here's a nice point. I want to share this,

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this tweet from Russo, he's given us some good stuff here.

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Let me, can you guys see that Jordan Miller where

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his confidence level is at. It's definitely going in the

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right direction tonight. I wanted to be better defensively. That's

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the whole thing with me. Remember that, remember the part

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of the Jordan Miller saga. This is the key and

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this is what we hope gets better over this next

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period of time where he's gonna get another shot. Jordan

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Miller was great tonight offensively. I don't want to discredit

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anything about what he's doing on the offensive end. He's

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going to be targeted on the defensive end. That's how

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things go in the NBA. If you're new to the

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league and there's maybe some questions about your defense, watch

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what happens. If he can correct his mistakes during the game,

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it's a great sign. There's someone in the chat was

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saying earlier, you know, let's just see where his development's at.

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He's getting better coaching, you know, compared to is in

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the G League. But let's just you know, let's the

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offense is good. The offense I'm very happy about. Uh,

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it's just the defense, right that. That's what the focus is.

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so I don't know, I could see it. Maybe if

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you this game tonight showed why KPJ just strictly as

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a ball handler is needed for this rotation right now.

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that's the user name saying, I don't think losing Terrence

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Man is that big of an impact. We have a

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lot of guys who can take his role. Terrence Man's

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averaging twenty one minutes per game right now. It's a

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Clippers team. And again, I know, I know the start

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hasn't been ideal. I'm not saying that, but twenty one

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minutes from this rotation, which Bones doesn't play, Pg's not

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with the team. Kobe's hurt. There's not a lot of

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guys who can take his role. Let's put a little

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bit or a on what Terrence Man does for this team.

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Jordan Miller is gonna get a role, a bigger role, absolutely,

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and we'll see if he can replicate some stuff. But

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it's gonna be the defensive stuff because Terrence Man's defense

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it is nice sometimes and like, Jordan Miller's got to

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get to that level. Jordan Miller was the first one

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off the bench. He was purely in the KPg kind

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of bench role tonight, what's it? Well, this is funny,

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Jordan Miller. If Kevin Porter Junior can go tomorrow, Jordan

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Miller's gonna get the full Clippers role player experience by

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having played one role on Tuesday and then a different

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role on Wednesday. So that's a very quintessential Clippers role

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player experience for Jordan Miller. Thank you. Logan. Logan is

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with Logan and I are some potty good tonight, Logan

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saying people are underestimating how much twenty additional minutes. Actually

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is it's a lot. It's quite a bit. Chunk Sampson

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in the comments, saying, ordering a podcast, Mike tonight, we're

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the number three seed? Are we the number three seed?

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I think we're still the fifth? Oh wait, no, we

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might be the three. Wow, order it, man, go for it, Chunk.

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I hope you're doing well. People are saying, maybe Bones

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plays tomorrow off kpch doesn't play Bones is I don't know.

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I don't know if Bones is gonna be on this

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team much longer. There's guys who are elgible to be

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traded on the fifteenth. There's guys who are els to

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be traded on the fifteenth of January. Like Bones didn't

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see the court until this game was fully out of hand,

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and I loved Bones. I at one point was a

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skeleton keyholder. It's over. I think it's over. I know

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that sounds harsh, but there's just something. It's not working.

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He has not been good his minutes at all. There's

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some people and this is a prevalent thing, and this

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is probably the last thing before I head out of here.

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I'm tired. We'll probably do a live tomorrow, Chunk saying

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there's no reason that KPJ should have any minutes. Did

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people watch the all bench lineup that did not have

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an actual actual point guard, play initiate or whatever you

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want to call it, try and function tonight because it

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was very bad. Jordan Miller is not a table center, right,

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Jordan Miller is not a guy who initiates the offense.

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not what he does. And KPJ is tasked with I

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should say he doesn't exactly run it wildly efficiently. KPJ's

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a ball handler and an offense initiator, and that's what

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the second unit needs. That's why he's getting those minutes.

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I'm not advocating for them. That's just what I see

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based on everything that people have said within the organization

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and just literally what we've seen within the organization. There's

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also a thing too, where I think there's a bit

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of a redemption story that maybe some people want with KPJ,

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Like the Clippers can be like, oh see KPg came

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to us, and look how good he actually is. He's not,

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but I get the logic of why. I get the

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logic of it. I don't necessarily agree with it, but

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I understand where's coming from of why he is getting minutes,

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So yeah, that's kind of why he's in the rotation.

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All in all, great win. You love any twenty point win,

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especially against a team that you should have beaten earlier

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in the year. It was great to see. I don't

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think Zu's in a slump. Norm is the man it

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needs to be the most improved player and be it

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the All Star Game. And yeah, it was a great

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night the Clippers. Tomorrow against the Timberwolves, we'll see where

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the legs are at. Norm only twenty five minutes hard

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and under thirty two. All the starters played, not that

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many down, only played twenty, which made me think, excuse me,

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thank you for catching that many. Well, he's not done,

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only played twenty. So I think we're gonna see a

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lot of Chris done tomorrow. But the last came out

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against against the timber Wolves ended so annoyingly. Everyone had

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issues with them not fouling or something like that. Let's

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hope that it goes better. Splitting the back to back

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would be great, is all I'm gonna say about the

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game tomorrow. It'll be interesting if the Clippers can score

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more than ninety two points. They didn't have Norm the

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last time they played the Timberwolves, so we'll see. Oh

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and it looks like the two games were scheduled out

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of conference, and take that back all right, I'm gonna

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head out. All three of us will be back for

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y'all on Thursday. I'm gonna do probably a live hang

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tomorrow after the game. Whatever happens, watch for Jordan Miller's

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defensive growth over this time when Terrence Man is out

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the offenses there, we know it's great. Let's hope Norm

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can stay hot tomorrow. A big game from Zoo is

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needed more a mere coffee sniping is very much going

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to be needed. And where are those minutes that Terrence

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Man plays are going to go? We will see tomorrow

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and another edition of the Days of our Clippers. Thanks

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for hanging out and as all wa