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Canadian Courtroom with 74 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:02.599 yours truly se. Turcott was born on April twenty first, 75 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:08.199 nineteen seventy two. He worked with Isabelle Gaston at Hotel 76 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:13.560 de de Saint Jerome Hospital as a cardiologist. He fell 77 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:18.680 in love with Gaston in Quebec City in nineteen ninety nine. 78 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:23.120 They moved in together in two thousand, but the relationship 79 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:29.639 was characterized by domestic violence from both parties. Turcott moved out, 80 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:33.120 but soon reconciled with Gaston after promising to work on 81 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:39.480 their relationship. The relationship improved and Turcott proposed to Gaston 82 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:44.879 at Mount Washington, New Hampshire. Gaston accepted his proposal and 83 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:49.959 they were soon married. Their son, Olivier, was born in 84 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.839 two thousand and four, and then two years later their 85 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:58.560 daughter Anne Sophie. In mid January two thousand and nine, 86 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:02.079 shortly before Gaston and Turcott planned to leave for a 87 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:06.040 trip to Mexico with their children, Turcott was informed that 88 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.319 his wife was having an affair with their personal trainer 89 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:15.639 and friend, Martin Hewitt. Hewitt's girlfriend, Patricia Guerreau, notified Turcott 90 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:19.519 of the affair and provided emails exchange between Hewitt and Gaston. 91 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:25.879 Turcott and Gaston decided to separate. Two days after coming 92 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:30.360 home from their trip, Turcott left the family residence. Gaston 93 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.399 and the children stayed in the house, and both parents 94 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:44.000 agreed to share custody. During the separation between conversations between 95 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:50.240 Turcott and Gaston were often very heated. On February eighth, 96 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.360 Turcott found out that his children had been to a 97 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:57.319 Quebec carnival with their mother and Woitt. The carnival had 98 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.800 special meaning to him since he had lived in Quebec 99 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:04.199 City and attended the carnival for many years. I could 100 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:07.920 not accept that Martin spent time with my children as 101 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:12.040 if I was being replaced. The next day, a former 102 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.399 neighbor told Turcott that the day he left who it 103 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.439 had spent the night and had been staying there almost 104 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:22.920 every night for the past two weeks. Turcott said the 105 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:26.439 information made him flip, and on February tenth he went 106 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.839 to the family residence to fetch his son's sweater and 107 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:34.199 found Hewett in the kitchen. Turcott said, you stole my wife, 108 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:39.279 you betrayed me, you were my friend, and he punched 109 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:43.519 to it in the face before leaving the house. On 110 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:47.199 February twentieth, Turcott dropped by the house again, and this 111 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:50.720 time Gaston ordered him to leave, telling him you are 112 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:54.600 going to stop controlling my life now. If I want to, 113 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.360 I can change the children's names, I can get custody. 114 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:04.720 I can move anywhere in Quebec. That day, while he 115 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:08.040 was at work, colleagues noted no outward signs of distress. 116 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.879 He exchanged emails with Gaston and also picked up his 117 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:18.199 children from daycare and school. He telephoned Gaston later and 118 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.879 she informed him that she had changed the locks on 119 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:27.959 the house and consulted with a lawyer. He replied, if 120 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:32.680 you want war, you will get it. After putting the 121 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:39.319 children to bed, he read dated emails from Gaston and Hewitt. Afterwards, 122 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.360 he began searching the Internet for sites with information on 123 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:46.680 how best to commit suicide. The next morning, February twenty one, 124 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.879 two thousand and nine, two police officers followed up on 125 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:53.199 a call placed to nine point one after the respondent 126 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:56.959 had expressed suicidal thoughts to his mother. When they entered 127 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:00.000 the respondent's home, the officers discovered the bodies of two children, 128 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.839 a boy and a girl, in their beds, stabbed forty 129 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:08.439 six times in their upper bodies, twenty seven times for 130 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:14.000 Olivier and nineteen times for an Sophie. Turcott was discovered 131 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:17.879 under his bed, covered in vomit and blood. He told 132 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:21.079 police he drunk windshield wipe or fluid and wanted to die. 133 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:24.759 He was taken to the Saint Jerome Health and Social 134 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.600 Service Center, where doctors there realized the man was one 135 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:34.399 of their colleagues, a cardiologist. Hospital director Francois Verin confirmed 136 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.720 the man was having marital problems with his wife, who 137 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:39.759 was also a doctor at the hospital. The two had 138 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:44.879 worked there together for about six years. Doctors decided to 139 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:47.759 transferre Turcott to a hospital in Montreal, where he remained 140 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:52.120 in stable condition. Quebec Provincial police took over the investigation 141 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.919 returned to the scene. Autopsies on the siblings were expected 142 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.960 to take place in Montreal to determine the cause of death. 143 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.919 Police contacted the children's mother, who was on a ski trip. 144 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:09.840 Gee Turcott was charged with two counts of first degree 145 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:14.440 murdered for the deaths of his two children. The trial 146 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:20.320 began on April twelfth, two thousand and eleven. Defense lawyer 147 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.840 Pierre Poupar told the jurors at the start of the 148 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.399 trial that they'd have to determine whether the once prominent 149 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:31.360 cardiologist intended to kill his children. What's really at stake 150 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.639 is what did he have in his head why? Poupar said, 151 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:40.559 did Guy Turcott, a human being, cause the death of 152 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:44.960 his kids with the intention of doing so? In a 153 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:49.240 statement filed by his defense lawyer Pierre Poupar, Turcott admitted 154 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:51.759 he committed an i legal act and caused the death 155 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:56.240 of his two children, but claimed it wasn't a premanitated act. 156 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.639 Poupar told the jurors that they will have to determine 157 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:01.879 turqu he got, state of mind at the time of 158 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.600 the crimes, and whether he knew what he was doing. 159 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:13.039 The defense's first witness was Turcott's own mother, Marguerite Fournier, 160 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:15.759 who presented the jury with a booklet of photos of 161 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:20.759 Turcott and his children, depicting the kids at play, at Christmas, 162 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:26.759 on birthdays, on outings, and when traveling. Each photo brought 163 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.639 quiet sobbing from the accused. Turcott's mother testified about the 164 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.279 last phone conversation she had with her son before the 165 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:40.759 children were killed. Turcott lamented his failed marriage to Isabel Gaston, 166 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.639 from whom he had separated just a month earlier. Fournier 167 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:49.799 said her son sounded depressed and told her Gaston was 168 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:53.960 cheating on him. It has been going on for weeks. 169 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.480 It was happening in my house, in my bed. His 170 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.480 mother advised him to look forward, but her son didn't 171 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.440 seem to hear her. But then he said something that 172 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:10.840 struck her as out of character. I love you. Tell Dad, 173 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:14.399 I love him. She remembered her son repeating those words 174 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:18.080 over and over during the hour long conversation. When I 175 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:21.399 heard that discourse, I was afraid he was about to 176 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:26.600 take his own life. Fearful he'd been drinking. Fournie wanted 177 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.000 to drive to her sons that night, but her husband 178 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:32.799 had told her to wait. The next morning, she drove 179 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:36.159 to the house, finding the shades drawn, no sound coming 180 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.000 from inside, and no one answering the phone or the 181 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:43.399 loud knocking on the door. Maybe my husband still had 182 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.200 hope things were okay, but I had no hope at all, 183 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:50.919 she testified. Fournier's chilling nine one one call pleading with 184 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:54.840 police to hurry to the rented home, was played in court. 185 00:11:56.200 --> 00:12:01.039 Turcotte sobbed in court as Crown Prosecutor Claudia Carboneau outline 186 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.919 the details of the double slaying. A crime scene technician 187 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:08.759 gave jurors a view inside the home, two knives, two 188 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.759 blood stained beds, a near empty windshield washer container in 189 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:20.039 a bathroom, and vomit on the floors. The couple's life 190 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.799 coach recounted that Turcott had told them the little boy 191 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.720 pleaded with his father to stop. He was stabbed twenty 192 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.919 seven times, while autopsy results showed the five year old 193 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:36.080 Olivier tried to defend himself from the attack. Witnesses who 194 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.320 encountered Turcott at the hospital following his arrest told jurors 195 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.159 he asked not to receive medical treatment, with a nurse, 196 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.320 Chantelle Dulmo, testifying that he said he killed his children 197 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.519 to spite his wife. He said he wanted to make 198 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:54.039 her angry, and the way to do so was to 199 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:59.879 take away from her what was most precious, the concentrade. 200 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.320 The concentration of methanol in Guy Turcotte's blood was the 201 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.200 equivalent of between three and five beers for an average 202 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:11.519 sized man. A defense witness testified. The same witness. Toxicologist 203 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:16.240 Anne Marie Fauchaier testified she found a potentially fatal dose 204 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.399 of methanol in Turcotte's system. The day after the February 205 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:24.799 two thousand and nine slayings, under cross examination by the 206 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:29.360 Crown prosecutor, fuq said she estimated someone who has consumed 207 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:33.559 that much beer is conscious, coherent, and able to have 208 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:40.480 discussions and negotiate. Fauquher said such a person is quite 209 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.519 capable of doing what he has to do, but had 210 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.879 noted in her initial testimony one's level awareness can be 211 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.639 reduced after consuming such levels of methanol. She explained that 212 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:54.960 the effects of methanol and the human body are similar 213 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:58.679 to those from the consumption of ethanol, the alcohol found 214 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:01.919 in wine or beer, but with less of an impact. 215 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:08.080 Prosecutor Rene Veret questioned her experience on methanol intoxication, with 216 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:12.200 Faquar replying that she had worked only on three or 217 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:18.279 four similar cases and the only survivor was Turcott. Evidence presented, 218 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:23.000 though had not established the quantity of washer fluid he 219 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:28.840 had consumed. Later, Claude Relard, an expert in neuropharmacology, said 220 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:32.519 methanol does result in memory loss. He referred to a 221 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.679 scientific article regarding a mass poisoning in New York in 222 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.080 nineteen fifty three, where people had been drinking a mix 223 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.799 of fake whiskey and methyl alcohol or methanol. Several people 224 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.120 ended up going to hospital to be treated and had 225 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.799 suffered major memory loss. Some couldn't recall setting foot in 226 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:55.159 the hospital how they got there, but they appeared rational 227 00:14:55.279 --> 00:15:02.720 when observed by medical personnel. On May ninth, Ghee Turcott 228 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:08.720 took the stand, Speaking slowly but clearly. Turcott spoke about 229 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:14.559 a childhood where he was the awkward outcast, about his 230 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.320 eleven year journey to become a cardiologist, and how he 231 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.879 came to meet his now estranged wife. He was born 232 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.799 third of six children in a suburb south of Montreal 233 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:28.960 and grew up in a devout Catholic family in an 234 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:33.320 overflowing house where there wasn't much communication. He was not 235 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:37.120 very popular, not very athletic, and his early years were tough. 236 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:40.960 He was the target of jeering and always the last 237 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:44.519 person to be chose on teams. I was a little 238 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:47.840 guy everyone laughed at and made fun of. I wore 239 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:51.679 big glasses and I was timid. He said. He had 240 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.519 a number of relationships, but everything changed when he met 241 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.639 Isabelle Gaston at happy hour in a Quebec city bar 242 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:02.399 in nineteen ninety nine. I was attracted to her right away. 243 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:05.000 We spent the whole night together and I fell in 244 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:08.759 love with her that day. He described Gaston as having 245 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:12.840 lots of charm, smiling, full of energy, intelligent and a leader. 246 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.440 I found myself lucky to be with this girl. I 247 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:19.600 was surprised she was attracted to a guy like me. 248 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:22.879 I think I'm pretty ordinary, and she was just so hot. 249 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:26.960 He told of the couple splitting once in two thousand 250 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:29.919 and one following an argument where punches were thrown by 251 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.360 both of them, but after a few months the relationship 252 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.840 was rekindled, and not long after he proposed to her 253 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:43.480 on Mount Washington. His demeanor on the stand was more 254 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:48.000 composed and earlier in the day, when he sobbed as 255 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.360 his lawyer's tabled photos of him playing with his children 256 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:56.799 and celebrating birthdays and holidays. In his testimony, Turcotte also 257 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:02.120 recalled disordered scenes of the murder event. He is standing 258 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.000 in his son's room. He has a knife in his 259 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.400 hands and stabs his son. His son cries out no 260 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.000 and moves away from him. He realizes that he is 261 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.440 hurting him. He panics and stabs him more. He has 262 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.799 a similar memory with respect to his daughter. He sees 263 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.200 himself in the bathroom, he drinks windshield wipe or fluid. 264 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:25.400 He has blood on his hands, he has hurt his 265 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.799 children and looks for the knife to stab himself in 266 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:34.359 the heart, but cannot find it on the stand. The 267 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.680 Crown asked Turcott about a phone call he made to 268 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:39.960 his colleagues at Hotel the hospital after he was arrested 269 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:43.400 and jailed. In the call, Turcott mentioned his desire to 270 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.920 collect the check for three hundred and fifty three dollars 271 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.519 and that he had wanted to leave his calculator to 272 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:53.079 a co worker. Turcott replied that at the time, after 273 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:55.839 being in jail for eight days, he was having difficulty 274 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.599 coping with flashbacks of the deaths of his children, and 275 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:03.200 that he decided to kill himself, and before he ended 276 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.400 his life, he wanted to make sure all his affairs 277 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:08.359 were in order. The Crown also questioned Turkott about the 278 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.119 events of the knight of the two killings and why 279 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:14.559 he did not take his own life that night. You 280 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:17.599 stabbed your children forty six times. Why didn't you have 281 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.519 the courage and the strength to stab yourself even once? 282 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:25.680 Asked the prosecutor, Turcotte said he won to stab himself 283 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.640 but could not find a knife he used to kill 284 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:33.440 his children. How did you not see the knives? How 285 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.519 would you like me to explain it, replied Turcott, elaborating 286 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.359 that his memory of the events of that night was 287 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:45.000 still shaky. Previous witness had explained how a knife was 288 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.079 found under Olivier's body, and that a second knife was 289 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:52.200 found on the edge of a bathtub near Turcott's bedroom. 290 00:18:54.279 --> 00:19:00.000 Now finally testifying, Isabel gastonutun turned to her former husband 291 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.799 in the prisoner's box. You weren't a bad father that 292 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.200 I know, she said, sobbing, and I'll never say you 293 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.039 were a bad father. Never. About half the courtroom wept 294 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:14.680 while listening to Gaston's testimony. She testified that the couple 295 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.799 always had its problems, but she never believed Turcott would 296 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:22.240 ever hurt his own children. The testimony was so highly 297 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.079 anticipated that members of the public began lining up an 298 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:27.359 hour and a half before the courthouse opened just to 299 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:32.279 get a seat. While she often broke down on the stand, 300 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:36.720 Gostell plowed through nearly two hours of testimony, recalling the 301 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:45.200 final moments with her children. She dressed Olivier the morning 302 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.920 of February twenty and gave him a kiss as he 303 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:54.599 went off to school. He waved back at her the 304 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:58.880 final time. Gastall saw him a few hours later and 305 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.799 Sophie would be opped off at daycare, But before setting off, 306 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:06.759 Gaston scurried around the car for her daily exchange of 307 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.880 a minimum of twenty kisses with the toddler, who was 308 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:12.920 sitting in the child's seat. Do you know how much 309 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.359 I love you, Gaston says, the little girl told her 310 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:20.519 as they shared their kisses. The jury also heard that 311 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:24.000 tensions had flared for an unteented and final time between 312 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:27.480 Gaston and Turcotte when she had the locks changed at 313 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:31.599 the home. She switched them following a number of run 314 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:34.559 ins between her ex and her new boyfriend, Martin Woitt. 315 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:41.480 She testified that Turcott was livid. You want a war, 316 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:45.000 You'll get a war, she recalled him, saying over the phone. 317 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:48.680 Gaston panicked at the threat, but she felt the warning 318 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.200 was related to money. She ended up deciding to go 319 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:57.039 on a girl's weekend northeast to Quebec City. The next day, 320 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:03.160 the kids were found dead. About it on the news. 321 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.480 I feel stupid for not thinking that he'd hurt the kids. 322 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:11.920 Gastall said, I never thought for a second he'd do that. Gaston, 323 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.319 an emergency room physician at Hotel the Hospital in Saint Jerome, 324 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.559 also cried as she told the jury about her relationship 325 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:21.720 with Turcotte, which began when they were medical students in 326 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:25.559 nineteen ninety nine. From the beginning, we had our ups 327 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:28.880 and downs, Gastell said, In ten years, I couldn't say 328 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:32.400 it was all black or all white. The couple fought 329 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:35.279 and fought a lot about everything from parenting and money 330 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:41.759 to intimacy and kids extracurricular activities. Gaston said she tried 331 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:44.559 to improve their relationship through reading self help books and 332 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:48.480 employing a life coach. Despite the good that came with 333 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.000 Olivier's birth in two thousand and three and and Sophie's 334 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:55.079 in two thousand and five, there was plenty of bad. 335 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:00.519 Gastall said. They separated once early on while dating, after 336 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:05.039 she found gay porn on his computer. She found more 337 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:07.960 gay porn again in two thousand and eight. Although she 338 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:12.880 confronted him, Turcott vehemently denied being gay. That discovery, coupled 339 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.400 with the arguments and a lack of intimacy in their 340 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.000 marriage would be the beginning of the end, she said. 341 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:23.119 Gaston began a new relationship with Hewitt, a personal trainer 342 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:27.039 of theirs. It blossomed quickly, but she decided to keep 343 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:32.079 it secret. I regret today not having told Ghee myself earlier, 344 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:37.160 Gaston said, referring to how Turcott heard the news from 345 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:42.039 a third party from Hewitt's X. I waited because of Anne, 346 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:46.960 Sophie and Olivier. Gaston stated that she and Hewitt are 347 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:52.000 still together. Gaston defended Turcott as a good father. While 348 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.200 they were together, She said each contributed as a parent. 349 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.200 Mothers and fathers don't always see eye to eye, but 350 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:02.359 I think we were complimentary. Castal said even when the 351 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:04.880 couple split, she had hopes they might still be friends. 352 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:06.920 He said she wanted them to be a team to 353 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:11.519 work together on raising the kids. She last spoke to 354 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:15.359 Turcott on May seventeenth, two thousand and nine, when she 355 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:20.400 called a psychiatric hospital in Montreal and operator transferred to call. 356 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:23.920 Gaston hadn't gone to work that day and was thinking 357 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:29.680 of committing suicide herself. She had already written the letter. First, 358 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:34.720 She wanted to ask Turcott why why the kids? GHI 359 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:38.440 I love them more than I love myself, she told them, 360 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:46.839 He replied, according to her, me too. The judge had 361 00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:50.960 instructed jurors that acquittal was not an option, as Turcotta 362 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:54.680 had admitted to stabbing his children and Sophie and Olivier 363 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:59.799 in February two thousand and nine. The trial garnered unprecedented 364 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.279 me the attention in Quebec, with members of the public 365 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.839 line up for hours every day for a seat in 366 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:10.319 the courtroom. Thirty nine witnesses testified, including Turcott, his parents, Gaston, 367 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:15.720 and numerous mental health experts. The jury had to decide 368 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:19.799 on one of four scenarios, first degree murder, second degree murder, manslaughter, 369 00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:24.920 or not criminally responsible by reason of mental illness. It 370 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:28.799 reached the decision July fifth, on what would have been 371 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:32.960 the jury's sixth full day of deliberations, rendering a verdict 372 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:39.640 of not criminally responsible due to mental disorder adjustment disorder 373 00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:49.000 with anxiety and depressive moods. Isabella Gaston admitted to being 374 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.039 astounded by the outcome, despite having prepared herself for all 375 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:57.799 potential scenarios. With this verdict, my path will really not 376 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:02.680 be easy, Gaston told reporters. The Saint Jerome, Quebec courtroom. 377 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:07.079 I'm in shock. Even if it had been first degree murder, 378 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:09.359 I could not have been satisfied because it would not 379 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:12.359 have brought back my children in this life, she said. 380 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:17.079 Gaston doesn't want an appeal and said she won't testify 381 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:23.119 again for me and I speak for myself alone. It's over. 382 00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:29.839 I will never return to a trial. There was public 383 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.400 outrage expressed in the media in the province of Quebec 384 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:35.079 over the verdict, but in the rest of Canada the 385 00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:39.400 story didn't seem to resonate. News of the verdict did 386 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.240 spread like wildfire on the Internet, however, with hundreds of 387 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.759 people turning to Twitter and other social media to discuss 388 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:52.440 the outcome. Several major Province of Quebec television personalities even 389 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:57.759 weighed in to express their own personal disgust. Very very disappointing. 390 00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:02.319 Verdict criminally not responsible. I don't believe it, wrote Guy Lapage, 391 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.000 host of a popular television talk show in Quebec, on 392 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:11.240 his Twitter account. Another prominent Quebec TV personality, Julie Snyder, 393 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.279 wrote that she was crying while thinking of the verdict. 394 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:19.160 I'm astonished, she added. Veteran lawyer and former Quebec Crown 395 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:25.319 Prosecutor Robert Lehay said the public's emotional response is not surprising, 396 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:28.799 but it's important to remember that juries are not supposed 397 00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:33.680 to be populist. He said. Juries render justice based on evidence. 398 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.519 They weighed the evidence, dissected it and decided at the 399 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:42.039 end of the day and concluded reasonably and without emotion, 400 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:46.680 le Hay said. Crown Attorney Claudia Carboneau said she would 401 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:51.119