Speaker 1: Viewer looks like it's getting ready to kind of potentially roll.
Speaker 2: Your has been strong though, and now it's going to roll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's been strong thinking that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have peace.
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Speaker 2: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial
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Speaker 2: Economics sign up for his daily newsletter. Marty, it's like
Speaker 2: where hit another turning point here? What is the model
Speaker 2: saying about Ukraine? Now? With all the peace efforts that
Speaker 2: are supposedly taking place now, are they legitimate or is
Speaker 2: it just more stagecraft state craft for the masses to
Speaker 2: make people think they are trying to do something even
Speaker 2: when they're not.
Speaker 1: No, I think you gotta split in half. I mean
Speaker 1: Trump really is trying to do something if Europe is
Speaker 1: trying to stop them from doing anything. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been warning them. I said, you know, be very careful.
Speaker 1: You know, Europe is in dire straits and they will
Speaker 1: stab Trump in the back every chance they get. And
Speaker 1: just look at how they reviewed this and saw it
Speaker 1: as very serious. The Neo Khans, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I was in the middle of them back, you know,
Speaker 1: when Bush Junior was around h and so I got
Speaker 1: to see really how they function, what they think about.
Speaker 1: And the number one rule they have is never talked
Speaker 1: to your opponent and your adversary. When Robald Reagan wanted
Speaker 1: to go meet with Gorbertroff in ninety one when the
Speaker 1: hope you know, us the thora collapsed, they couldn't call
Speaker 1: him a communist anymore. So they said he was, oh,
Speaker 1: you could just never trust to Russian and he went anyhow,
Speaker 1: he refused to listen to them. But if you look
Speaker 1: at that's their m O. They always tell do not
Speaker 1: talk to Putin why because that might lead to a
Speaker 1: peace deal. And I've spoken to you know, several governments there. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I said, has anybody picked up the phone to
Speaker 1: try to even call Putin, give me a name, please.
Speaker 1: Nobody could. So the theatric cheer is that you had
Speaker 1: all of them, including NATO Poppler plane income to Washington
Speaker 1: to support Zelensky. What it's they don't want peace. It
Speaker 1: all met clandestinely with uh Zelensky before his meeting in
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian embassy. Okay, they don't want peace. You know.
Speaker 1: This is what you know I've been told from you
Speaker 1: know all along here it's and in all honesty, I mean,
Speaker 1: as you know, we had you know, two employees in Ukraine,
Speaker 1: one and then asking them one in in Kiev. And
Speaker 1: even when at the very beginning and Putin had his
Speaker 1: tanks up against you know, down the road outside of Kiev,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I was concerned. I said, gee,
Speaker 1: or you know, you're okay, what's going on? And he
Speaker 1: said they're doing nothing. It's just a show. So he
Speaker 1: could have taken Kiev right then and there if he
Speaker 1: won it. He did all right, it was more of
Speaker 1: a show of force to say see look and they
Speaker 1: pulled back it. What goes on here is I mean,
Speaker 1: we started this whole nonsense. You had John McCain on
Speaker 1: the stage of My Dad. You know, oh we're with you.
Speaker 1: This is about It's all only about you. Peace. All
Speaker 1: this nonsense right now, they had peace. They were through
Speaker 1: the government. They installed an intim government which in nin
Speaker 1: instantly then was told to start to attack the dumbas
Speaker 1: you had. Victoria Newlan there for handing out sandwiches. Am
Speaker 1: I not? Oliver Stone did a thing Ukraine on fire
Speaker 1: and showed that Ukrainians wanted the US to intervene, and
Speaker 1: Victoria Newlan said, we can't do that. You know, you
Speaker 1: need at least one hundred people, you know, killed, then
Speaker 1: maybe we can look at it. They Ukrainians were bringing
Speaker 1: over one at a time for their own snipers to
Speaker 1: kill one hundred people, and they killed one hundred to
Speaker 1: say okay, well now you will you come in. I
Speaker 1: mean it. Look it where I was told from direct
Speaker 1: sources that they did not believe Zelenski won. They believed
Speaker 1: that the election was all right, and that's why when
Speaker 1: he took office, I put out a report. I said, look,
Speaker 1: this is the guy I've been told that was picked
Speaker 1: hand picked no Less to start World War three, and
Speaker 1: he ran for election. The death toll was one hundred
Speaker 1: to thirty thousand at the time, and he ran for election.
Speaker 1: You can look it up. Who was in CNN. His
Speaker 1: whole platform was peace and you got over a million
Speaker 1: dead since and he's refused it just about everything. You know,
Speaker 1: this little stitch here our constitution forbids us to give
Speaker 1: them any territory one whatsoever. So in other words, Russia,
Speaker 1: you have to get completely out. You have to surrender.
Speaker 1: That's it, you know, I don't see a solution long
Speaker 1: term here. I mean, Zulens, he's got to go. And
Speaker 1: I have put this flat out like to Washington as
Speaker 1: you're not going to get any piece as long as
Speaker 1: this guy is there. Every source I had said he
Speaker 1: was handticked to create war. The Ukrainian people. I mean
Speaker 1: his polls are down like twenty five percent. The vast
Speaker 1: majority they want peace, Okay, everyone, all right, over eight
Speaker 1: million have fled. The two employees we had or in
Speaker 1: Berlin now and thou not to go back. Where has
Speaker 1: this war been for the Ukrainian people? And I can
Speaker 1: tell you they you know the same thing was going
Speaker 1: on in Romania the first election. Oh well he was
Speaker 1: it was rigged by Russia. So they wouldn't allow the
Speaker 1: guy to take office. What because in Romania. That is
Speaker 1: where they're building. It was initially a secret base, the
Speaker 1: largest NATO base in all of Europe in Romania to
Speaker 1: attack Russia. And that's what he was against. So they
Speaker 1: had to get rid of him. Then they just date
Speaker 1: this second election, and I know people that were there,
Speaker 1: they said even the crone went to make sure the
Speaker 1: EU won and the Romanian people, like the Ukrainian they
Speaker 1: know they're just pawns in this. They do not want
Speaker 1: to go to war with Russia. What do you get
Speaker 1: out of this? You know, the dom boss is primarily
Speaker 1: all Russian. Fifteen percent of Crimea are still Tartars from
Speaker 1: the old Mongol invasion of twelve forty. You know, he
Speaker 1: Zelensky has outlawed their language, outlawed their religion. Even the
Speaker 1: pulp came out against them, and so you cannot, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, invalidate you know, Orthodox Christianity.
Speaker 2: Trump, get us out of this mess.
Speaker 1: I believe what Trump has done. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I've been screaming in Washington as luck loud as I can.
Speaker 1: I think just starting to listen. You know, I've warned
Speaker 1: them that look, Europe is going to stab you in
Speaker 1: the back. They need this war. Uh, they're desperate. The
Speaker 1: economy is collapsing, the EU will crumble. I mean, I
Speaker 1: do interviews from Netherlands to Palermo. Everybody. Three years ago
Speaker 1: it was you really think the EU will break up?
Speaker 1: And now I get when we've had enough, you know,
Speaker 1: by do them In Croatia, Serbia, I mean, everybody says
Speaker 1: the same thing, largely because you know, when you have
Speaker 1: a centralized government, they get drunk on power. This was
Speaker 1: supposed to be an economic trade union. No, you will
Speaker 1: take migrants here in Romania. They just told them you
Speaker 1: will accept one hundred thousand Africans and Middle Eastern you know,
Speaker 1: that is their decree. Why I can also, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you the reason why is that they think which is
Speaker 1: going to backfire on them. They think bringing in all
Speaker 1: these migrants and then they can draft them and that
Speaker 1: will be their army to go after Russia. The problem
Speaker 1: they have is that they're not going to risk their
Speaker 1: life for them. You know, this is the same stupid
Speaker 1: mistake that the Roman emperor Vwin's made. He let the
Speaker 1: Goths in because the till of the hunt was coming.
Speaker 1: Train them very nice, you know, to build up his
Speaker 1: army against the till up. They always hated Romans. They
Speaker 1: turned around, waged war in Rome, killed the emperor, beheaded
Speaker 1: him in battle, you know. Or is Europe doing the
Speaker 1: same stupid thing?
Speaker 2: Mh.
Speaker 1: You know, and you're bringing in these people who have
Speaker 1: no loyalty to you. They're not there to assimilate. You know.
Speaker 1: You go to Sweden, you know, police won't even go
Speaker 1: into areas. They've hung up signed sheer of law. Here.
Speaker 1: It's not that when everybody came to America, you know,
Speaker 1: it was to make a better life and to be free, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Once everybody began speaking the same language, everybody intermarried, all right,
Speaker 1: So yes, the American I'm half German, half Irish, whatever,
Speaker 1: or Italian or whatever. You don't see that in Yorpe
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, you know, because the language keeps people apart.
Speaker 2: What do they say about the US and England where
Speaker 2: two people divided by a common language, right?
Speaker 1: Pretty much? Yeah, I mean it's look Europe is I
Speaker 1: don't know, for whatever cultural reason. The ethnic differences there
Speaker 1: maybe harbored by the language, but they don't disappear, you know.
Speaker 1: The chancefer of Germany in eighteen eighty eight said that
Speaker 1: there was going to be a major war in Europe,
Speaker 1: and it's going to come from the Balkans. Anybody that's
Speaker 1: dealt with them is the ethnic hatred just goes back centuries.
Speaker 1: I mean, as I said, we gave you know, graise
Speaker 1: a handful of jets and what did make the front
Speaker 1: page news? Oh, now we can do a sneak attack
Speaker 1: on Turkey. To NATO countries. Yeah, you go to England,
Speaker 1: you know, and they still call Catholics papes and that's
Speaker 1: from the Civil War sixteen fifty you know. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been to Bavaria and they said, oh, tomorrow's the holiday.
Speaker 1: I said, what's the holiday? We won the war? I said,
Speaker 1: which one are we talking about? You know, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we defeated frustrated, No, that was the you know, Protestant
Speaker 1: versus Catholic you know, I mean, this stuff goes on
Speaker 1: and on and on. And the solution to Ukraine it's
Speaker 1: very simple. You know. They had the men's agreement putin
Speaker 1: signed it and you had Merkels basically outright said, well,
Speaker 1: we never intended to honor it. All right. They've wanted
Speaker 1: this war from the beginning and it you know, they've
Speaker 1: always tried to conquer Russia because it's the richest country
Speaker 1: in the world from a natural resource perspective. Sweden tried,
Speaker 1: Spain tried it. I mean, you know, Germany tried. It's
Speaker 1: like somebody's got, you know, a pile one thousand dollars
Speaker 1: cash shitting on the table, and gee, it doesn't look nice,
Speaker 1: you know, and they just want to get their hands
Speaker 1: on it. I don't know what it, you know, but.
Speaker 2: It's doesn't it make sense to work with them because
Speaker 2: they Russia doesn't have the talent pool or the the
Speaker 2: human capital to exploit all those resources. If they kind
Speaker 2: of joined together and stop wasting all their money on
Speaker 2: military hardware and actually got down and started realizing the
Speaker 2: value of Russia's resources, everyone would be better off, wouldn't they.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I have actually had discussions with high level
Speaker 1: people in France. They call the Crone the petite.
Speaker 2: Napoleon, and that's redundant.
Speaker 1: The view is this, and I think it's the the
Speaker 1: this goes back to even to the American Revolution, that
Speaker 1: they feel that if they can conquer Russia and get
Speaker 1: the assets for themselves, that Europe arise from you know, oblivion,
Speaker 1: and seventy five trillion is twice the size US national debt,
Speaker 1: and they will become the Roman Empire again and rule
Speaker 1: the world. It's delusional, it's absolutely delusional. But I said,
Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me. People are actually discussing this. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean it was Macron who was the first one
Speaker 1: and one to send troops into the Ukraine, knowing that
Speaker 1: would be World War three. And so this meeting every
Speaker 1: country came with NATO that was basically choreographing something very important.
Speaker 1: We don't want peace, we're here, and they had said
Speaker 1: we're standing behind Ukraine. We don't give a shit about
Speaker 1: the United States. That's really what that message was.
Speaker 2: That's insane. So the model, nothing's changed on it. It's
Speaker 2: still saying what it's said before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at volatility will start going up starting in
Speaker 1: September next year. Doesn't look good. And look the problem here,
Speaker 1: and I have Warren Washington, and and first I thought
Speaker 1: maybe they would think I was a conspiracy theorist or whatever,
Speaker 1: but I said, look, we got to get the hell
Speaker 1: out of NATO. They're going to do a false flag
Speaker 1: and try and invoke Article five and drag US in.
Speaker 1: And the response I got back was we know you're right,
Speaker 1: I got wow, oh pick, we're starting may progress here.
Speaker 1: So what Trump has done is saying, all right, fine,
Speaker 1: we will give you Article five like security without taking
Speaker 1: in absorbing you know, Ukrainian to NATO. What's the difference.
Speaker 1: Difference is if they join NATO, they can park nukes there.
Speaker 1: So this is kind of cutting the baby in half.
Speaker 1: So like Putin basically said, okay to that, he's not
Speaker 1: going to have nukes on his border.
Speaker 2: No solomonic decision.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a reasonable decision, all right. I
Speaker 1: mean I argued, Look, the solution is very clear, just
Speaker 1: on in an inst agreement. Let the dumbbas you know,
Speaker 1: vote and separate. You're all you know, we know we're
Speaker 1: giving up any territory, all right. Czechoslovakia split on ethnic lines,
Speaker 1: Czech Republic, Slovakia, we had Yugoslavia breakup, all right, you
Speaker 1: got Monteneglar, you got you know, Serbia, you got Croatia,
Speaker 1: all along ethnic lines of course, right yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I know Serrps and and they still hate Armenians.
Speaker 2: It's just it will say it. And the same with Cyprus.
Speaker 2: You got the Greek half of the island in the
Speaker 2: Turkish yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to solve these things. Iran versus Israel. It's a
Speaker 1: religious thing, you know. Where is it You can't negotiate
Speaker 1: my god against your god. I mean, that's not that's
Speaker 1: not negotiable.
Speaker 2: That subject to negotiation for sure.
Speaker 1: So it Lands is one thing, you know, I'll give
Speaker 1: you this, you get me that, you know, But when
Speaker 1: you're talking about ethnic differences and religion, you're not getting anywhere.
Speaker 1: And you have to respect there are differences in motivations
Speaker 1: for war.
Speaker 2: Okay, So some of what you said before we're going
Speaker 2: to have to put into part two because our digital
Speaker 2: overlords will censor.
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