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Speaker 5: Let's dive straight into the topic. Talk about the biggest
Speaker 5: event in England this week. What is it we're at
Speaker 5: watching Wimbledon.
Speaker 2: Okay, was it needed? The reactions?
Speaker 5: Why is the thirty six year old retired cricketer watching
Speaker 5: a thirty eight year old Djokovic playing? So many reactions
Speaker 5: like that sort of You were also saying that when
Speaker 5: Doni comes here they go, but when Kali comes, they
Speaker 5: look at his body language, they talk about his marriage.
Speaker 5: Poor guy. One photo from one photo we have in
Speaker 5: for so many things. Unnecessary is what I think, and
Speaker 5: this topic is also a little unnecessary. Let's drift away
Speaker 5: to talk about what we came here to talk the
Speaker 5: fantastic win for Team India. You know, I genuinely believed
Speaker 5: after the Leeds defeat that probably this team will be
Speaker 5: cornered here with the style that England played. They chase
Speaker 5: three hundred and seventy odd in the first Test on
Speaker 5: the fifth day, and I thought, Okay, that's how it's
Speaker 5: going to be. Maybe India might do well and still lose.
Speaker 5: That would be disheartening to see like what happened in Leeds.
Speaker 5: But in Birmingham, schumannil showed that Okay, we are a
Speaker 5: young team, we don't have the superstars, but still are
Speaker 5: the best cricketers in the world. As in, can you
Speaker 5: discount that fact that Schumann, Rishab Karun, all of them
Speaker 5: are finest among the finest. Did you expect that sorp
Speaker 5: Did you expect the win? Did you expect the win?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 6: See to be very honest now, because of how the
Speaker 6: team was set up, Like I said, the first three
Speaker 6: hours of the day would have all been about if
Speaker 6: you looked at it. You had Aaron Finnch, you had
Speaker 6: Tom Moody. You had everybody talk about, oh why is
Speaker 6: Bumrah not playing? You want to win and however you're
Speaker 6: not going to do it without just with Boomra? Why
Speaker 6: is cool they not playing? So this was the storm
Speaker 6: that was surrounding the Indian team. You had people trolling Kambir.
Speaker 6: You had rubbish Astri come out and publicly slam the
Speaker 6: team management saying that this is not the right team.
Speaker 6: I cannot agree with it, and a lot of comments
Speaker 6: were made and that day I had written how amidst
Speaker 6: all this commotion? It was that calmness from Schumann Gill
Speaker 6: that should have gotten the spotlight that how he played
Speaker 6: that innings so once he got two hundred, I was like, okay,
Speaker 6: Shuman has always been that guy who gets to a hundred.
Speaker 6: But you know you he does not kick on and
Speaker 6: like get to a big score like how Rochhama used
Speaker 6: to do in Odia cricket.
Speaker 2: Then he went, then he continued going.
Speaker 6: Then I think England and everybody was like, is he
Speaker 6: going to go go score a three hundred. Finally he
Speaker 6: got tired and he lost it. That was it, and
Speaker 6: then the second innings. My god, that day four, I
Speaker 6: still remember the commotion here. Everybody was like, when are
Speaker 6: we retiring? When are we retire? Declaring sorry? I think
Speaker 6: made me there. But that moment also, like it was
Speaker 6: so exciting to watch that team play on day four.
Speaker 6: You did not know, like what is going to be
Speaker 6: their next move. It was absolute carnage. I think Gil
Speaker 6: went from ten of twenty or something to one sixty
Speaker 6: one from one sixty two balls. It was just pure carnage.
Speaker 6: And we gave England, a supposed team that is known
Speaker 6: for their bold batting, a taste of their own medicine.
Speaker 6: So that was absolutely brilliant to watch. Day five I
Speaker 6: had to travel a little bit here and there, so
Speaker 6: I did not watch it. But agashi water performance that
Speaker 6: was simply sublime, and he has shown that he deserves
Speaker 6: a place in the team. So yeah, I did not
Speaker 6: expect it, but the way the wind come came, it
Speaker 6: was pure joy.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
Speaker 5: I still remember sort of texting me on day one
Speaker 5: morning as in afternoon here, morning there, that I want
Speaker 5: Gotham to be sacked. I think he had to lose
Speaker 5: this test touse this series. He was so miffed to
Speaker 5: the team selection that yeah, we all knew that Boomra
Speaker 5: might or might not play. They didn't confirm it until
Speaker 5: the leven was out, but eventually Boomra didn't play, and
Speaker 5: then Kuldib didn't play two wicket taking options not playing press.
Speaker 5: He retained after an ordinary Test in Leeds. So what
Speaker 5: was the mindset tub and how did it change over
Speaker 5: the course of five days.
Speaker 7: See, if you talk about the mindset the Indian team
Speaker 7: with whatever happened in the first chest, I had bare
Speaker 7: minium confidence on this team winning the match, especially when
Speaker 7: you don't have someone like Boomra and a team which
Speaker 7: has a pasuit of Siraj who has always worked hard
Speaker 7: but he was not getting those wickets. Then, oh my god,
Speaker 7: amongst all these things which is happened in the sis match,
Speaker 7: Krishna was I think the only concerning point for us
Speaker 7: for the amount of runs he considered in the first
Speaker 7: Chest and the second Test, and especially you know, to
Speaker 7: be very frank with you, the way this transition is
Speaker 7: happening like midway you saw after the Austia series retired,
Speaker 7: then Kohali retired and then we all expected Bumrah to
Speaker 7: be the captain. But Buomorra, citing the workload concerns, did
Speaker 7: not become the captain. Schumann Gil was handed over responsibility.
Speaker 7: And I will not shy away from the fact that
Speaker 7: I was the one who questioned the move. We three
Speaker 7: were doing the podcast and then I was the one
Speaker 7: who said that how is this decision for a batsman
Speaker 7: who has not scored run overseas scored runs overseas? How
Speaker 7: are you giving him that most important role the captain
Speaker 7: cey of Indian Test team. But Schumann Gill, for all
Speaker 7: the criticism that he faced from all corners of the world,
Speaker 7: hats off to him for what he did with the
Speaker 7: bat because yes, I'm not taking anything away from Akaze.
Speaker 7: Taking ten match wickets on that pitch was sensational, especially
Speaker 7: after fighting that personal whatever you say, I mean, the
Speaker 7: tragic moment is happening in his life. But schumann Gill's batting,
Speaker 7: I mean the captain of Indian Test team, his second
Speaker 7: match is in the captain and he is scoring four
Speaker 7: hundred orderns in the one Test match in England, even
Speaker 7: on the flat tracks. How much is Ben sok score?
Speaker 7: How much is Benduckets score? What is Joru doing? And
Speaker 7: then you see schumann Gill batting it out And you
Speaker 7: know the best part for me was they targeted him
Speaker 7: with short balls and the way he dealt with that
Speaker 7: adwall tactics. He spammed them all across the ground for
Speaker 7: six and boundaries and him and the Shippan when they
Speaker 7: were batting in the second age, it looked like, oh
Speaker 7: my god, this is what baseball is, not that fraud
Speaker 7: England team, because England team is a fraud team.
Speaker 6: To be very frankly, it's a funny thing because I
Speaker 6: was looking through the stats, so we had to write
Speaker 6: a copy about what Shupermann was doing.
Speaker 2: So he scored a h.
Speaker 6: Five hundred runs, so Sabia told me he scored five
Speaker 6: hundred runs and he's a second batter to reach five
Speaker 6: hundred in India. Was England tests for Indian matter so
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, so who's got the highest runs?
Speaker 2: So he said, Rakoli, how many runs fire?
Speaker 6: And I said this will be broken today only it's
Speaker 6: four innings and he scored five eighty five runs at
Speaker 6: a staggering average three hundreds in it. That is like,
Speaker 6: that is like how Vishas said he batted like Don
Speaker 6: Bradman and his captaincy was ten on ten and you
Speaker 6: did not expect it. Like I'm pretty sure there were
Speaker 6: a lot of people when this we were questioning should
Speaker 6: Gill I said, yeah, Schumann Hill is going to be
Speaker 6: a captain you and said why is he being made captain?
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's like, you know, there was this one wably
Speaker 6: reference I'll make there's a long time back. There was
Speaker 6: an interview where Triplett said, you know, you take a
Speaker 6: lump of cold now that's just carbon.
Speaker 2: You apply pressure on it.
Speaker 6: You apply so much pressure it either becomes a diamond
Speaker 6: or it breaks under the pressure.
Speaker 2: Right now with.
Speaker 6: Schumann Gill, he's under the most immense pressure that you
Speaker 6: can get as a captain of the Indian team right now,
Speaker 6: taking after road Sherman and Viraculi leaving the Test format.
Speaker 6: It's the biggest pressure that you can get and he's
Speaker 6: just excelling it like nobody's business. And also like how
Speaker 6: Sauub said, this whole plan of baseball backfired because they
Speaker 6: set up a pitch which is perfect for Indian Indian batters.
Speaker 6: I don't know what benstocks was saying, Oh, this felt
Speaker 6: like a subcontinent pitch. Yeah, you can't play there. That
Speaker 6: is your biggest cry there. You will come and cry here,
Speaker 6: and now you're crying at your home home.
Speaker 5: So yeah, but look at this Roy Sherma and Schumann Gill.
Speaker 5: Seems like an upgrade at the moment, right, and King
Speaker 5: Shukuari and Alan John, you know, the most logical, the
Speaker 5: most science we have spoken in a single episode of Yes,
Speaker 5: applied pressure to carbon. When that man sits here, there
Speaker 5: is no logic. He would have probably defended basketball. You
Speaker 5: would have probably said, oh, no, you can't provide these
Speaker 5: flat pitchures, all those nonsense. But I'm happy that someone
Speaker 5: is talking logic and science in this room.
Speaker 2: Good but yeah, sort of us saying so no.
Speaker 7: So when you talk about Ben Strokes, you know one
Speaker 7: thing which I realized watching Benstrokes in last six even years,
Speaker 7: just there was a period when he was a matchwiller.
Speaker 7: But now every time he gets out he makes it
Speaker 7: look like it was the ball of century. Like any
Speaker 7: baller from any country comes up, even if that baller
Speaker 7: is bowling is first, soonder was bowling is first toward England? Right,
Speaker 7: first ever Test over in England. He has paid first
Speaker 7: Regget and he removes Ben Stokes and Benstocks mixed like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, how is Shane one balling?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 7: And this is what this guy has done. You know,
Speaker 7: I was listening to an English commentator. I can't name him,
Speaker 7: I don't remember his name, but he said, whenever you
Speaker 7: questioned the England Test team, you questioned Jack Jack Crawley,
Speaker 7: you question olipop. But do you know who is the
Speaker 7: only batter in that top order, in the middlewatter who
Speaker 7: has not scored one hundred in last three years? Ben
Speaker 7: Sookes so the captain for all the hype that he has,
Speaker 7: and like our King Shukusar said that he has the aura.
Speaker 7: He's the most oralist batsman that you will ever see
Speaker 7: in English conditions.
Speaker 2: And more importantly, I think he's now under immense pressure.
Speaker 5: You could see f it's that from the body language
Speaker 5: of that pressure and even the interviews that he gave
Speaker 5: to the English broadcasters. After the interview, he generally is
Speaker 5: very relaxed and he looks at things very in a
Speaker 5: very different way. But that day he looked a little
Speaker 5: flustered as to admit that these were sub subcontinent pitches.
Speaker 5: It was was a thing, but the body language itself,
Speaker 5: because your opposition captain has scored four hundred thirty runs
Speaker 5: in a single Test match and here you are getting
Speaker 5: out to a you know, like he said, a spinner
Speaker 5: who was bowling for the first Yes, of course, that
Speaker 5: ball drifted in like anything. I think I read a
Speaker 5: stat saying no other ball from a spinner in England
Speaker 5: has drifted as much five point six degrees or something
Speaker 5: since they started recording these things in two and six.
Speaker 5: So that's that is one thing. But the first inning
Speaker 5: is undone by a terrific bouncer. Even in India when
Speaker 5: he came in twenty twenty four, at that time it
Speaker 5: was called the Pataudi Trophy, right, yeah, now it's called
Speaker 5: Anderson Tentle Trophy. He got out to Boomra on a
Speaker 5: couple of occasions and he made it look like he
Speaker 5: dropped the bat.
Speaker 2: He dropped the bat All that it was a normal
Speaker 2: slow see.
Speaker 6: I think what Michael Atherton was saying. I was also
Speaker 6: very surprised with the fact that Ben Stokes after the
Speaker 6: first Test win said he had gone on a complete break.
Speaker 6: He was a shadow of himself. He was not looking,
Speaker 6: he had completely shut down. And now Michael Atherton is saying,
Speaker 6: well he needs to do that in the next three days.
Speaker 2: To lift the stream up.
Speaker 6: Now, how will he do that? My question is when,
Speaker 6: like the pressure is there? You saw Schuperman Gil he was.
Speaker 6: He was probably not proactive in that first first Test.
Speaker 6: He was a little out of sorts when he got
Speaker 6: hit by Bassbot. But in the second Test he was proactive.
Speaker 6: He knew what he had to do. Yes, he bid
Speaker 6: his time. He knew that okay, England were going, but
Speaker 6: then this was a pitch, This was a track where
Speaker 6: nobody could do anything. He knew that his bowlers were
Speaker 6: getting hit, but he waited. He waited till that second
Speaker 6: ball came in and then he brought back. He had
Speaker 6: his fresh bowlers coming in and they finished them off.
Speaker 6: In World thirty four for five the last five weeks
Speaker 6: when we fell for thirty four runs. Why is Benstocks
Speaker 6: not getting that idea like Brendon mcculum comes out and
Speaker 6: says that, yeah, we made a mistake with the toss,
Speaker 6: Like how many more mistakes will you make?
Speaker 2: Like I wrote this piece.
Speaker 6: I wrote that piece where I was very highly critical
Speaker 6: of the Indian team when they lost the first Test,
Speaker 6: and I said that you can't be fooling around saying that,
Speaker 6: you know, transition can't be a reason for us to
Speaker 6: say that, oh we are missing out on a WDC final.
Speaker 6: This England team has not played at a w DC final.
Speaker 6: They've not been in contention. They've either been dogged slow overrates.
Speaker 6: That has been a recurring theme. You are constantly putting
Speaker 6: up this thing where oh, we play for the enjoyment
Speaker 6: of the sport.
Speaker 2: We are the saviors of Test cricket. What are you saving.
Speaker 6: You're not saving anything, You're not leaving a pitch that
Speaker 6: is good for Test cricket, You're not playing Test cricket properly.
Speaker 6: And then you're saying that you're trying to save Test cricket.
Speaker 6: Benstokes has to be questioned like how sare upset right now?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 6: Why are there no questions about Ben Stokes? The batter
Speaker 6: Benstokes the bowler got saved in the first Test second
Speaker 6: as he was ineffective? What is he doing as a
Speaker 6: captain as well?
Speaker 5: You know, I saw an argument I think it was
Speaker 5: Athaton and Hussein on Sky Sports or part of that
Speaker 5: wonderful episode of podcast that they released on six to seventh,
Speaker 5: in that they were asking about Benstok. The same question
Speaker 5: was being discussed, but then they said, you know, one
Speaker 5: of the best win records in the modern era by
Speaker 5: an England captain. But is that the art stick? Is
Speaker 5: that the art stick you want to have? Joe Root,
Speaker 5: by all means, was horrible in the later half of
Speaker 5: his captains like.
Speaker 2: When he came to India.
Speaker 5: When India went there, I agree with that, even invest
Speaker 5: in England couldn't do anything. So is if that is
Speaker 5: the art stick that Stokes is being measured on, then
Speaker 5: it's fine.
Speaker 2: Then he's okay. But like you both pointed out.
Speaker 5: If the goal is to make it to the World
Speaker 5: Test Championship, he even spoke about it like it's we
Speaker 5: have to win to make it to the World Test.
Speaker 2: But I had a simple question.
Speaker 5: Six hundred and eight was a target and you had
Speaker 5: a little over than three sessions too.
Speaker 2: But the thing is why didn't they go for a draw?
Speaker 2: Are they not built?
Speaker 5: You say that, Okay, we don't do draws. That's the thing.
Speaker 5: We don't do draws.
Speaker 2: Is it? You don't do draws. You're not capable of
Speaker 2: doing draws, you.
Speaker 7: Know, if you ask me, the Singland team is not
Speaker 7: without doing anything apart from winning Test matches on flat
Speaker 7: tracks where the other teams fail the moment you see
Speaker 7: that the other team has a bowler who can actually
Speaker 7: get some spurches of the pitch, who is getting the
Speaker 7: ball to nip in. This Indian team falls flat, especially
Speaker 7: if you look at his engliand team, like Alan pointed out,
Speaker 7: you know, was sacked after two bad series as a
Speaker 7: captain and as a batter he played. He won the
Speaker 7: series against Bangladesh, he lost three nil to Newsland at
Speaker 7: home and then he lost to Australia. Australia where he
Speaker 7: was captaining just two two or three Test matches. Fine,
Speaker 7: but in England you see Ben Stokes, he's losing everywhere.
Speaker 7: Where did he win a Test series?
Speaker 2: Still in Pakistan?
Speaker 7: Pakistani want so great in Pakistan flat tracks they do
Speaker 7: that at home. Oh that's the game. Back from that
Speaker 7: is a great achievement.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And you know with this England team, I think they
Speaker 5: morally won matches in India also, right, like.
Speaker 7: The moral wins are always there for England, Ben Stokes,
Speaker 7: Mcallum especially. I remember on day five when Schub hit
Speaker 7: a six of Souner or Dja, the English station was in.
Speaker 7: They were celebrating it like they have won the Test
Speaker 7: Championship and it was very absurd for me to see that. Yes,
Speaker 7: your taender is hitting those sixes, but you should be
Speaker 7: ashamed of yourself like.
Speaker 2: Three months ago, like how you celebrated one follow on
Speaker 2: follow on, We avoided the further avoided the match. We
Speaker 2: saved the match.
Speaker 7: Yeah, time match you are completely outplayed it as a
Speaker 7: as a bowling unit, as a batting unit, as a feeling.
Speaker 2: They do things differently.
Speaker 6: So Jack, like, let me tell you said that England
Speaker 6: cricket Ben Stokes is one of the greatest England captains
Speaker 6: of the modern and you asked the question, can England
Speaker 6: cricket be a yard stick? Let me tell you has more.
Speaker 6: If you have count Wil's singles in O cricket, he'll
Speaker 6: still be the fifth highest run getter for England. In
Speaker 6: that format. So England cricket is not a yardstick for anything.
Speaker 6: Let's let's start with that.
Speaker 2: But now you have the home of cricket, they have
Speaker 2: the crowds coming in.
Speaker 6: The Home of cricket. Everything you can, you can say
Speaker 6: all these things, but you need to show the cricket
Speaker 6: to be good good for that right, You need to
Speaker 6: show the cricket that, okay, we are You have the
Speaker 6: name Lords. That means you are the owners of the thing.
Speaker 6: You have, not you you've invented cricket, you have your
Speaker 6: Your team is not good enough. You've invented many sports.
Speaker 6: Your teams are not good enough. It's just simple fact
Speaker 6: that it's.
Speaker 2: Just the arrogance.
Speaker 6: Okay, you saw England and basketball doing some magic in Pakistan,
Speaker 6: which I think even Bangladesh did. Like you said, no,
Speaker 6: no disrespect to Bangladesh. They outplayed Pakistan. Pakistan were being
Speaker 6: outplayed till they started using pitches that were turning. Before
Speaker 6: that they were being outplayed. Then coming to your question,
Speaker 6: can they get a draw? They don't have people to
Speaker 6: get a draw. Can can a bend a kid play
Speaker 6: that Hashi Mamala role where he was I think Hashi
Speaker 6: Mamala and a work three for I don't know how
Speaker 6: many hundred and two hundred balls can they do that?
Speaker 6: Nobody is there. Maybe a Joe Route can do it.
Speaker 6: Apart from the Harry Brook cannot do it, that is
Speaker 6: not his natural.
Speaker 5: But Harry Brook is the is better than We're Coolie
Speaker 5: is what they c talent genera or such talent and
Speaker 5: the temperament of someone like we're at.
Speaker 2: That's that's how they make it look like.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, that is on flat tracks in pakistanis And
Speaker 5: that is the biggest joke I've ever heard, because this
Speaker 5: English team if you look see if you really want to,
Speaker 5: you know, see, basketball can be anything you don't They
Speaker 5: don't want to define it.
Speaker 2: They will kind of define it whichever way they want to.
Speaker 5: But if you can't play for draws, if you think
Speaker 5: draws are bad, then go back to that Sydney test,
Speaker 5: go back to that test and please gave their heart out.
Speaker 5: What is this we don't do draw siek. They could
Speaker 5: have easily been one niller for a lot on that pitch.
Speaker 5: Had they applied themselves, had one batter, you know, stay
Speaker 5: stuck along with someone like Joe Root, they could have
Speaker 5: easily played for a draw there. If you can draw
Speaker 5: that match in Sydney against that bowling attack, Hazel would
Speaker 5: come in and all of them. Drawing here could have
Speaker 5: been easier, is what I thought. You could have been
Speaker 5: one nil if you're played with that attitude.
Speaker 2: And let me be also be very fair on this.
Speaker 6: The England cricket team, the English media, they all took
Speaker 6: this Indian team very lightly before. Every single time you
Speaker 6: could see Archer has to be ready for Ashes. Archer
Speaker 6: has to do this to be ready for Ashes. Mark
Speaker 6: Wood has to be ready for ashes. Indian series is
Speaker 6: a build up for the Ashes. You go to Ashes.
Speaker 6: I'm telling you this team will get dropped again. They
Speaker 6: will get dropped. There is no other chance. They took
Speaker 6: this Indian team lightly because Koli, Rushvin and Roach three
Speaker 6: match winners gone.
Speaker 2: Oh this team? What is there?
Speaker 6: Ravindra Jeeja who is towards the end of his career,
Speaker 6: a young bowling team. Bumra will not play more than
Speaker 6: three tests. Sumann will will put some pressure on him.
Speaker 6: He's gonna crumble under that pressure. We've done that with
Speaker 6: multiple captains. What is Schubmann Gill going to do? And
Speaker 6: Schumann Gill went there and he was always you look
Speaker 6: at his press conference, he's very he's a very educated guy.
Speaker 6: Maybe he might be a little too smart as well
Speaker 6: in his brain, but he's very educated.
Speaker 2: He never showed any aggression on the mic.
Speaker 6: He was like, hah, this is the thing I'm not Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm looking to become the best batter for my side
Speaker 6: in the team.
Speaker 2: People said a lot of things.
Speaker 6: People had problems with his prince tag on his cricket bat.
Speaker 6: That was also a problem in our country. Now where
Speaker 6: are those critics. There's nobody there. But when you look
Speaker 6: at the England team, they make all these statements. They
Speaker 6: go on making statements after statements that we will do this,
Speaker 6: will do that. If they made these statements and they
Speaker 6: outplayed all these teams that have come in, they want
Speaker 6: the ashes. They beat India in India, they beat India
Speaker 6: in their home conditions, I would agree to it. They
Speaker 6: are not doing anything. They have not reached a WDC final.
Speaker 6: They not reach a w DC final. They cannot play
Speaker 6: for a draw to save themselves. Now there there were questions,
Speaker 6: oh did agast the bowl a no ball? For God's sake, man,
Speaker 6: your best batter got bamboozled. Accept it, Move ahead, you
Speaker 6: have three days to prepare for Lords. They still don't
Speaker 6: know which pitch they want. They want a spicy pitch,
Speaker 6: they want a.
Speaker 2: Honey glaze pitch.
Speaker 6: I don't know what they want with their with their play, this,
Speaker 6: their their concept is irritating at times and that is
Speaker 6: the biggest problem.
Speaker 2: And the cheer leading for that is what irks me.
Speaker 5: And like, okay, Brenda McCallum doesn't come out in the
Speaker 5: open and say this is bass ball, But the cheerleading
Speaker 5: for that is a little over the top of them.
Speaker 5: When you say, okay, best England captain in the modern era,
Speaker 5: look at the stats. Who are the England captains in
Speaker 5: the modern era.
Speaker 2: Himself?
Speaker 5: But if you want to play with that yard stack,
Speaker 5: then probably every w final will be a battle between India.
Speaker 5: You might maybe Pakistan and Silanka I joined that or
Speaker 5: New Zealand might get you.
Speaker 6: You might actually say that Alastair Cook is one of
Speaker 6: the most classical players and a little bit on the
Speaker 6: boring side, But that England team was way better than this.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. That team came to India and beat India, beat India,
Speaker 2: went to Australia, won the ashes that they.
Speaker 5: Would have done draws, They would have been smarter.
Speaker 7: When I said, this England team says that we don't
Speaker 7: do draws, It's like me saying I don't want to
Speaker 7: meet the primise of her country, so I can't meet
Speaker 7: the primise of my country. They can't do draws, they
Speaker 7: don't have the means to do it. You know, this
Speaker 7: English media and English media is the biggest culprit because
Speaker 7: they have this colonial mindset. You know, the best moment
Speaker 7: for me was not in the Test match. It was
Speaker 7: in the post match miss conference when Schumann Gil was
Speaker 7: asked that a fellow journalist from Britain reminded you of
Speaker 7: India's horrible record at his question whereas and then the
Speaker 7: way that guy replied it was sensational.
Speaker 2: You know. The way Schumann has handled himself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, yes, he began training during the IPL and
Speaker 5: all that he was told I think well in advance
Speaker 5: that he would be And in the first Test, India
Speaker 5: didn't drive home that bandage there were four thirty one
Speaker 5: for five and then get gotten bulled out from there.
Speaker 5: And Schumann when he walked out for that after Leeds
Speaker 5: Test press conference, he didn't blame anyone. He was asked
Speaker 5: about the tail enders crumbling forty one for seven and
Speaker 5: thirty one for six.
Speaker 2: He said, no, I won't blame them.
Speaker 5: It is asked batters who have to take the responsibility
Speaker 5: when we get to a hundred, we need to make
Speaker 5: it big.
Speaker 2: On these pitches. And he did that. He just walked
Speaker 2: the talk.
Speaker 5: In the second thing, he never looked like he'll get
Speaker 5: out if the moment he got to his hundred, he
Speaker 5: reset like sunlo Asker always says, when you get to
Speaker 5: a hundred, don't think that you know you're done. You'
Speaker 5: just you know, start again. That's what killed did. And
Speaker 5: the conviction in his batting. He never looked like he
Speaker 5: threw it away. In the second things, he was unbeaten.
Speaker 2: I think right he fell out, he got out trying
Speaker 2: to go for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah so in the India or when when you yeah
Speaker 5: and Washington in the rest playing Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the way he has, you know, handled himself handle
Speaker 5: the press, I don't know.
Speaker 2: A isn't like we all questioned this move.
Speaker 5: But in the hindsight it might be something like something
Speaker 5: that happened to be Art as well, right in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a very flashy character.
Speaker 5: But you never knew that he would do this to
Speaker 5: test cricket and like what he did to test cricket.
Speaker 5: I don't think even if Gill scores forty hundreds from
Speaker 5: here on can be done. But the impact that some
Speaker 5: people handle the burden of responsibility, well I think Gill
Speaker 5: is in that.
Speaker 6: I think there were a lot of people even during
Speaker 6: my gym also, they were like coming and asking, bro,
Speaker 6: what is this?
Speaker 2: Like you made him captain and he's.
Speaker 6: Scoring runs, he couldn't score a fifteen overseason. What has
Speaker 6: happened to him? I said, he is that player. When
Speaker 6: you look at that under nineteen batch, he was the standout.
Speaker 6: A lot of media hype went to perth Visha, a
Speaker 6: lot of other players as well, but.
Speaker 2: This guy was the standout.
Speaker 6: And there is a reason he stood up in that
Speaker 6: pressure game against Pakistan when others did not scored one hundred.
Speaker 2: And he has that aggression streak in him.
Speaker 6: I remember King shuk telling during one of those episodes
Speaker 6: that I just want him to be aggressive, but he
Speaker 6: doesn't do that. He knows when to be aggressive, he
Speaker 6: knows when to put in the accelerator, but he never
Speaker 6: shows it outside.
Speaker 5: That two sixty nine was aggression only. What was it
Speaker 5: what else was it? Like people say, Okay, Travid might
Speaker 5: not be aggressive, but to stay there and you know,
Speaker 5: to through a that in that heat, that's aggression for you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: everybody reacts to situations differently where art saggression is in
Speaker 5: your face, but that one of test matches, and there
Speaker 5: have been people has been differently aggressive. Ricky Ponting has
Speaker 5: been Inzama Mulak. Would you say that he was not aggressive?
Speaker 5: He might look the most laid back cricketer that you've
Speaker 5: ever seen, but he had the steel of you know,
Speaker 5: you have nerves of steel, and he did what he
Speaker 5: did for his country, right, So I think it's it's
Speaker 5: that that they also be discussed that it's unfair to
Speaker 5: you know, type cast aggression like people, you know, you
Speaker 5: don't want supern Gil to be Verratkolii should be superann Gill.
Speaker 5: And he has started showing that I will lead from
Speaker 5: the front. I want to show that. Okay, guys, he's
Speaker 5: telling richa punt by doing this. If you get to
Speaker 5: a hundred, it's not like you will start playing her.
Speaker 5: You know, those shots you have to drive home the
Speaker 5: advantage and against this England team, if you're given them
Speaker 5: a way for four hundred is a target. In the
Speaker 5: final innings, we were all discussing that also, right did
Speaker 5: we declare an hour late? But they knew that six
Speaker 5: hundred on the board would be a very moral advantage
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 6: I think I think Marcus Roscothic came that day saying
Speaker 6: that we are not stupid, we will not try to
Speaker 6: chase it. But in their minds that I also said,
Speaker 6: was it an ego trip or was it a statement
Speaker 6: that we are making. It was almost like, Okay, you
Speaker 6: chased almost close to four hundred, now try chasing.
Speaker 2: Try and do it.
Speaker 6: Yes, we challenge you, try and do it. I think
Speaker 6: that is a mentality. My only problem when I talk
Speaker 6: about Gavda Gumbiert as a coach, Yeah, there are such
Speaker 6: great moments, but there's inconsistency. I don't know, inconsistency probably
Speaker 6: in terms of his statements, maybe his team selections.
Speaker 2: I think that has to go.
Speaker 6: Like I think I saw yesterday an Bisla's tweet saying
Speaker 6: that when he did this, everybody was on his back.
Speaker 6: Now when they won, oh it's all Shupermann guilded this
Speaker 6: this that please give him the flowers as well. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we are ready to give him the flowers. Probably what
Speaker 6: Gambier I think, what I feel he needs to do
Speaker 6: in test cricket is that maintain a consistency with the
Speaker 6: team selections, like probably give chances to people who should
Speaker 6: be there.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, this.
Speaker 6: Time around he made the correct calls, he made brought
Speaker 6: an AGAs everything worked. Maybe stick with this team or
Speaker 6: depending on the next track, maybe bring in if needed,
Speaker 6: but maintain that team selections don't go just by the thing.
Speaker 6: I think I was one of the people who was
Speaker 6: not happy with Hasdrana's inclusion for the Australia series. He
Speaker 6: has not done anything. You're not done anything. It was
Speaker 6: a young guy is still trying to find his feet.
Speaker 6: Let him find his feet and slowly come in. Maybe
Speaker 6: that is where Gambier as a coach has to improve.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I also think that he
Speaker 5: backs his instincts and picks players or instincts ravishas to
Speaker 5: pick and like he was looked at as an oudio
Speaker 5: one day white ball bowler, but then he brought him in.
Speaker 5: I think Gambier wants to take that gamble, but he
Speaker 5: does it a little over does it a little bit.
Speaker 5: That is where that's like Washington cent there is backing
Speaker 5: from the home season, like he has been backed ahead
Speaker 5: of Ushwin. Like that's something, Okay, maybe you wanted to
Speaker 5: see that. Okay, maybe I want an off spinner who
Speaker 5: can bat a bit like maybe he knew that Ashwin
Speaker 5: didn't have miles in his legs and I shall also
Speaker 5: quit it. But yeahs in like it's now time to
Speaker 5: give him credit, right and be stuck to his guns.
Speaker 5: When we all said that, okay, we might not need
Speaker 5: that extra batter, he picked that extra batter and that worked.
Speaker 5: Jerija scoring eighty nine odd runs in the first innings
Speaker 5: and adding two hundred with Supermann Gill and then soon
Speaker 5: there's forty two. Might look separate, but then he also
Speaker 5: had one hundred and twenty hundred thirty runs with Jerija
Speaker 5: with supermun Gill, So instead of ending up with another
Speaker 5: four thirty four fifty, we got four five eighty odd runs.
Speaker 2: Right, So I think you need to give him credit.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, whether when conditions demanded, can
Speaker 5: he play five five specialist bowlers or something that we
Speaker 5: need to look at, But now you have the cushion
Speaker 5: to do that is what I think. Maybe you drop
Speaker 5: a Washington soon there you drop on this d and
Speaker 5: then play another pure batter or a bowler, whichever demands
Speaker 5: the But I want to ask you both one question.
Speaker 5: Can drive home this advantage and win this series from
Speaker 5: here on? Or do you think England can fight back?
Speaker 7: You know, before I talk about this, let's spend some
Speaker 7: minutes about a cash Deep. What a performance. So the
Speaker 7: guy makes his debut against England in an home series.
Speaker 7: His first figures is Bendict and in that spell he
Speaker 7: made it look like, yes, he's ready for the interesting stage.
Speaker 7: Then when we go to Australia he plays the matches
Speaker 7: and yes, there are times when you realize that this
Speaker 7: guy needs to be more disciplined in his bowling, that
Speaker 7: there are a lot of no balls.
Speaker 2: But when he is on.
Speaker 7: Song, he's on song, especially the way he took out
Speaker 7: the wickets of Joe Ruod Benduicett. And I was looking
Speaker 7: at a stat so do you guys know that the
Speaker 7: last baller lasts overseas pacer before a cash Deep to
Speaker 7: take five England top batters without taking remove five milliand
Speaker 7: top batters without taking any help of any fielder. It
Speaker 7: was Michael Holding in ninety seventy six and a car
Speaker 7: hip has on that and he actually rested any Indian
Speaker 7: bowler's best ever bowling figures in England in Test cricket.
Speaker 7: What a performance from that guy. And on top of that,
Speaker 7: when he came out for that chat with Pujara and
Speaker 7: he mentions that I dedicate this performance to my sister
Speaker 7: who suffered from cancer and she is going through the
Speaker 7: toughest period of her life and I have been battling
Speaker 7: it mentally, but I never made it public, had soft
Speaker 7: to him, had soft to his family and all the
Speaker 7: love and prayers for her sister. Sensational performance. You know,
Speaker 7: he made the ball talk. In the first things I remember,
Speaker 7: Siras picked up a five figured hall and Akasi was
Speaker 7: the one who took the catch, and Silas came out
Speaker 7: and said that had we it would have been better
Speaker 7: had we both taken a five figure hall and would
Speaker 7: have given the ball to Ai because Punja boss special.
Speaker 7: And in the second innings it was who picked up
Speaker 7: a six fiket hall and drew India to a famous
Speaker 7: win at as Western. What a performance. Absolutely sensational, hat
Speaker 7: soft red guy. And I believe now our coach, our
Speaker 7: management our captain should back this guy for.
Speaker 8: At least a couple of series if he's fit. The
Speaker 8: next moment, the way he's buying, he looks like, I
Speaker 8: think we have got that again. We've got that trio.
Speaker 8: We had Shami missing. We were thinking who's next. We
Speaker 8: were all banking on as we're banking was the main horse.
Speaker 6: But I think has come in and you know, kind
Speaker 6: of showed that, you know, I Am here to stay.
Speaker 2: I think the Wicked did that as well.
Speaker 6: So yeah, the Wicked celebration of I think Joe Route
Speaker 6: saying that I'm here to stay. So that shows because
Speaker 6: now the competition, like we have always been saying, we
Speaker 6: need another pace battery, we need another group of pacers
Speaker 6: coming in. We have had so many names come in
Speaker 6: and fade out. This guy is here to stay and
Speaker 6: he's showing that. He showed that from the first day
Speaker 6: that he got a chance to come in, he was well.
Speaker 2: Both him and.
Speaker 6: Saraj have always said, like I've always felt that they've
Speaker 6: been a little bit unlucky. Sometimes catches not going their way,
Speaker 6: sometimes certain decisions not going their way.
Speaker 2: But they kept on it.
Speaker 6: They kept on first innings, it was Siraj who showed
Speaker 6: the way Agasti gave us the breakthrough then second innings
Speaker 6: it was all Aghashti and yeah, credit to him, Like,
Speaker 6: it is never easy to go through such a personal
Speaker 6: turmoil and be out on the.
Speaker 2: Field to bowl with that intensity. There are going to be.
Speaker 6: Moments where your concentration might go here and there and
Speaker 6: you might go back home in your mind.
Speaker 2: But he did not, and that was the best thing
Speaker 2: of that performance. That throughout his life he has faced
Speaker 2: quite a bit.
Speaker 6: He's lost his father, he's lost his brother, moving from
Speaker 6: Bihar to Jarkund and then from Jarkun to Bengal where
Speaker 6: he's honed his craft. He's worked on under the guys
Speaker 6: like Mugish Kumar and Mohmatshami, all these guys they are
Speaker 6: also like now they're also looking from the outside at
Speaker 6: him and like trying to, you know, compete with him.
Speaker 6: Now he's gone level with those guys in terms of
Speaker 6: getting his team. So yeah, he has to be back
Speaker 6: and that is where I feel Gumbier should show that consistency.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, now I'm getting a core.
Speaker 6: I'm getting a nucleus of what my team will look
Speaker 6: like in test cricket going in the future. He said
Speaker 6: that with the ode eyes and the T twenty side,
Speaker 6: now it's time for him to set it with Test
Speaker 6: cricket and that's.
Speaker 2: Where he has to show consistency and.
Speaker 6: If he does, then probably all the haters become lovers again.
Speaker 2: Because turning critics into fans great.
Speaker 5: But now, yeah, you know also made a very good
Speaker 5: point on air that doesn't hold the ball tightly. He
Speaker 5: holds it with his fingers only so he can get
Speaker 5: that backspin and that causes the you know, extra seamee
Speaker 5: movement once the ball hits the same just and he
Speaker 5: was constantly hitting those cracks like on the fourth and
Speaker 5: the film day.
Speaker 2: I remember the dismissal of Harry Brook.
Speaker 6: I cannot stop laughing because he could not even I
Speaker 6: don't think he even saw the ball.
Speaker 2: He was left like I think he was. He got
Speaker 2: hit badly. He was limping.
Speaker 6: That was the worse side that apart from getting bold
Speaker 6: and you're getting your middle stem uprooted. I think that
Speaker 6: is the worst side that you could have and that
Speaker 6: he was served with.
Speaker 5: So yeah, but yeah, tell me now, isn't like Ken
Speaker 5: India drive home this advantage or do you see seeing
Speaker 5: him doing something crazier in the third and fourth Tests.
Speaker 7: You know from all the stories that I have been
Speaker 7: listening and reading after a testmatch, there's a lot of
Speaker 7: panic in the engliss room, especially with the bowling unit,
Speaker 7: because they have not been able to pick twenty wickets.
Speaker 2: So you think James Anderson will be back.
Speaker 7: No, They're going to back Gus Atkinson and Joe for
Speaker 7: Archer if Archer is fit, which they feel that he's fit.
Speaker 7: So I think they're going to change the nucleus of
Speaker 7: that bowling attack, and they should change the nucleus of
Speaker 7: the bowling attack.
Speaker 2: What about their batting, their batting eye boom and SA.
Speaker 5: Of course Sira's workload has to also to be monitored,
Speaker 5: something that needs to be monitored. How many can he
Speaker 5: play in this day because in Australia Bra was on
Speaker 5: and off and he bowled all through the five Tests.
Speaker 5: Yes he didn't play the Champions trophe and all that,
Speaker 5: but yeah, what about their batting, England's batting hand and
Speaker 5: Lord's pitch.
Speaker 2: I also.
Speaker 7: Listened to the England coach where he said he was
Speaker 7: talking about Bethel is sitting on the bench. He's an
Speaker 7: exciting prospective and bat number three number four. He can
Speaker 7: spin the ball and I think he'll do a better
Speaker 7: role as a spinner than what has been doing in last.
Speaker 2: Beef of the batting by bringing Bethel.
Speaker 7: But I think McCallum refused it completely. He said no,
Speaker 7: he will not replace. But even if he comes back,
Speaker 7: so I think they will make one batting change. Also,
Speaker 7: they will back him Stokes out Bethel in no, no.
Speaker 2: Not Ben Strokes.
Speaker 7: I think they will do it with someone like Jack
Speaker 7: Crawley or Olipop.
Speaker 2: Only.
Speaker 7: I don't think they will move because in the first
Speaker 7: chess he score is on it and he has done
Speaker 7: what he does in every series.
Speaker 2: Can open is it? I think he can can batter
Speaker 2: number it.
Speaker 6: Still has battered at number three. So if they are
Speaker 6: kicking out Zach Crawley, I think they'll have to go
Speaker 6: for a different See, this is the problem, like you
Speaker 6: don't have any specialist.
Speaker 5: You don't see there are two specialists. I'm giving you
Speaker 5: a simple solution. Bringing alistair cooked open still can do
Speaker 5: better everyone even then get James Anderson back, will if
Speaker 5: possible gets to a broad also back.
Speaker 2: That is what? Yeah? Then, but now are we taking
Speaker 2: them lightly? See?
Speaker 5: I still think that they will do something very wacky
Speaker 5: in the third Test and you know, smash some five
Speaker 5: hundred six runs.
Speaker 2: I have one point to make.
Speaker 7: I am not taking them lightly because it is their
Speaker 7: home conditions and they have been manufacturing pieces of going
Speaker 7: to their needs, which so I expect them. I expect
Speaker 7: them to go and win the lotsches. Okay, it will
Speaker 7: be an embarrassment for the great Ben Stokes, the aura
Speaker 7: full Benstrokes and the baseball in winter Benda mcaumy will
Speaker 7: lose a lot because all they have done is hide
Speaker 7: their team, do nothing, win nothing. They can't draw Test patches,
Speaker 7: they don't, they don't. They can chase three seventies against
Speaker 7: India when they're flat tracks and India drop catches mine
Speaker 7: in that had India taken catches in the first chest.
Speaker 2: Would have That's not their mistake.
Speaker 7: No, it's our mistake.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
Speaker 7: But this England team, they should ideally go and win
Speaker 7: the next Test match, even after whatever happened is the
Speaker 7: second Test, because it's their home ground and they have
Speaker 7: every everything in there.
Speaker 2: Because this seems settle tried.
Speaker 7: I think in twenty twenty two these two came together
Speaker 7: and since then they have been together.
Speaker 2: They got all the backing from Rob.
Speaker 7: Key, ECB, English media everyone, despite doing jack so they
Speaker 7: should win the nextest match and not taking them lightly.
Speaker 7: If they don't win it, it's a big embarrassment on
Speaker 7: the face of baseball. Mcca Stokes, rocky English media everyone.
Speaker 2: But what kind of pitch?
Speaker 5: Ellen do you think they'll offer a green terf or
Speaker 5: a similarly flat tac flat track.
Speaker 2: I don't know, somewhere in between.
Speaker 6: See it all depends on I think that combination of
Speaker 6: Cassattings and Jaffras are coming in.
Speaker 2: How fit are they? What is their levels?
Speaker 6: If a Jaffra is there, I think they're gonna put
Speaker 6: a spicy pitch a little more bounds that might be expected.
Speaker 6: But then again, you've got Boomera coming in. He's going
Speaker 6: to exploit that they have left themselves in a pickle
Speaker 6: where it's like that team needs to be for me personally.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that has to be solved.
Speaker 2: It's not the bowling.
Speaker 6: It's not that Bridon Cars did not bowl his heart
Speaker 6: out or a Josh Tungue did not bowl his heart out.
Speaker 2: Is the quality is not just there.
Speaker 6: You don't have that quality you put up Brydon Cars
Speaker 6: or a Josh rung out in subcontinent conditions, they're gonna
Speaker 6: get whacked everywhere they got so they got.
Speaker 2: Backed in England. Yeah, continent Bingham.
Speaker 6: You understand the element of risk that is going to
Speaker 6: be there when you have a Jaffa Archer coming back.
Speaker 6: How long has he not played Test cricket?
Speaker 2: Four years? Can he handle it? Because one first class
Speaker 2: match in between.
Speaker 6: Nineteen overs is not your criteria. That is what Ben
Speaker 6: Stokes is doing because he has had multiple injuries. This
Speaker 6: guy also has had similar injuries. You don't expect him
Speaker 6: to bold nineteen overs. In nineteen overs, he is not
Speaker 6: going to probably pick up six or seven wickets also,
Speaker 6: So it depends on what level Jaffra Archer is and
Speaker 6: on what level Gus Hattingson is. But both of them
Speaker 6: are coming from injuries. I don't know how they are
Speaker 6: going to mix it up. Because this Indian team is hungry.
Speaker 6: They can genuinely see that Okay, this is the time
Speaker 6: that we can drive the advantage in if, like how
Speaker 6: Surap said, if they lose a lot Stuss I genuinely
Speaker 6: don't see a way back for England because this Indian
Speaker 6: team can draw, they can drawmances. They will draw maces also,
Speaker 6: they will fightal the end to draw a match. But
Speaker 6: England cannot do that and that is where the problem lies.
Speaker 5: You know, I think they kind of thought that we'll
Speaker 5: give them flat tracks and outbit them. But after seeing
Speaker 5: what Supermann and Dshap did, and Jerry and all of
Speaker 5: them did in the second test, it was it's kind
Speaker 5: of a rude awakening for them. Like you now don't
Speaker 5: know what to do. If you provide a flat pitch,
Speaker 5: Gill is waiting. If you provide them a spicier pitch
Speaker 5: in London, you already can't handle spices, complain about it.
Speaker 5: You prepare a spicy pitch and see boomra and as
Speaker 5: deep on. If he gets this much movement on a
Speaker 5: flat pitch, imagine you're giving him a bit of grass
Speaker 5: help from the surface.
Speaker 7: And you what about a fish and chips pitch bits
Speaker 7: love fish and chips, right, you don't love spies, they
Speaker 7: don't love bland love What.
Speaker 2: What what would that pitch be? What would that pitch
Speaker 2: be like?
Speaker 7: So when England boring, it will help the bonus, the
Speaker 7: batters and the weather conditions, like Clouderson used to do
Speaker 7: as famously known as for all the all the you know,
Speaker 7: I'm not outing his he but people blamed him. Okay,
Speaker 7: So that is how they expect to win test matches.
Speaker 7: That's how they will try to win the Test matches
Speaker 7: because I don't see them having a potent unit which
Speaker 7: can out back the Indian side or on a flat track,
Speaker 7: or out of all the Indian side on a spicy track.
Speaker 5: You know, Like I was, I was thinking maybe this
Speaker 5: might be the end of the hype around basketball as
Speaker 5: and like England might be forced to rethink. Like Alan
Speaker 5: pointed out, they were thinking ahead to ashes, but a
Speaker 5: couple of these guys might not even get to you know,
Speaker 5: if this is like I remember Tim Pain saying you
Speaker 5: come to Gaba, We'll see you there, and As been
Speaker 5: telling him that you come to India and then saying, no,
Speaker 5: you might not even come to India.
Speaker 6: Like it's like you go to Australia. You have a
Speaker 6: problem with the spies here. You go to Australia, They're
Speaker 6: going to give you even more spies.
Speaker 5: And and you know, for for for England's sake, I
Speaker 5: hope Jeff Archer become becomes good and Gus Atkinson, you know,
Speaker 5: Archer is not easy bowling.
Speaker 2: Like he said, twenty Htkinson is their new jackals.
Speaker 6: Apparently that is what how he is hyped us the
Speaker 6: next all rounder. Yeah, this is where this is where
Speaker 6: the media has to stop. I think I saw this
Speaker 6: tweet by Piers Morgan saying that feed them like he
Speaker 6: somebody trolled him for whatever told him. He said, like
Speaker 6: field feed Jeffra these uh some I think he some
Speaker 6: cuss word he used.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like broke, like you.
Speaker 6: Feed Jeoffra if he's not one hundred person Truman and
Speaker 6: will take him down.
Speaker 2: That is what happened in the IBL. Also, first, who
Speaker 2: did who did it?
Speaker 7: Who remarked this in Britain? Is another joker, a big joker,
Speaker 7: and never take him seriously. No Wady takes him seriously.
Speaker 2: That is the whole point, Like you're bringing these guys back. Okay.
Speaker 6: Second, I was worried, oh Joffrah is back, Oh Boomera
Speaker 6: is not going to play. Then this team stood up.
Speaker 6: The captain stood up. Your captain is not standing up.
Speaker 6: Your captain is every single ball. I think I should
Speaker 6: go and bowl at him, try to get him out.
Speaker 6: He'll be like, oh my god, where is this waller
Speaker 6: who is this valler India's producing new bowlers.
Speaker 2: He'll lose that.
Speaker 5: Also, for J's sake, they can't do flat pitchers. Also,
Speaker 5: imagine that guy bowling on a flat pitch and he
Speaker 5: would say that, okay, I'm not playing Test cricket anymore
Speaker 5: if he gets a.
Speaker 2: Pitch like Tom.
Speaker 6: To be very honest, he should not be playing Test
Speaker 6: as well because he is just coming back. You're putting
Speaker 6: him in the deep end and unfortunately that deep end
Speaker 6: does not have a deep end.
Speaker 7: I mean, this guy played three or four IPL matches,
Speaker 7: he got injured. How do you expect him to play
Speaker 7: a whole Test match exactly?
Speaker 2: That is warm of for rashes and he probably bowl
Speaker 2: fires and walk away.
Speaker 7: And I don't know what England cricket team wants, but
Speaker 7: for the sake of Testate, for God's sake, please give
Speaker 7: U sporting which don't roll out flat tracks because it
Speaker 7: just does not look like good for any bowler, whether
Speaker 7: it be a British bowler or Indian bowler. You're just
Speaker 7: bowling your heart out no help from the pitch. The
Speaker 7: battles are recommending runs, don't shot in the boundaries. For
Speaker 7: God's sake, play normal Test if.
Speaker 5: You can post broad Anderson era Anderson has looked ordinary.
Speaker 2: This is done Foxes.
Speaker 6: I think what Jeffrey Boycott said. He does not have
Speaker 6: a cell. He's past his cell day.
Speaker 2: It's irish.
Speaker 5: Jeffrey Boycott comes to the committy box and watch his
Speaker 5: Stokes bat.
Speaker 2: He says he's rubish, absolute Rubi.
Speaker 7: He must be saying this on his in front of
Speaker 7: his TV skas because bassball is rubisi.
Speaker 2: This man can't bat neither in England nor India. And
Speaker 2: that is the whole whole thing.
Speaker 6: Like like you was pointed out, like how sir, we
Speaker 6: want sporting trucks right in a sporting track, in a
Speaker 6: where there's a good competition between bat and ball, there
Speaker 6: is going to be a good like two good teams.
Speaker 6: This whatever you might say about England, they have a
Speaker 6: style of style or whatever that has worked for them.
Speaker 5: In fact, it won't be bad if, say, if you
Speaker 5: prepare a good spicy pitch and you get India boldout
Speaker 5: for two eighty two ninety, which is probably might be
Speaker 5: a good score, but then one of them ticks. If
Speaker 5: Harry Brook takes smashes Boomer for a couple of success
Speaker 5: and then gets the rhythm, they might actually level the
Speaker 5: first ning score and go for the seconding shootout. I
Speaker 5: don't know why they were very timid in pro providing
Speaker 5: these pitches against this team.
Speaker 2: Maybe they should go for it. That's their only choice.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: Now I get the fact that, Okay, you want to
Speaker 6: drive your team's advantage, but you were underestimating the other team.
Speaker 2: That is what they did.
Speaker 6: I think the only thing they could catch at one
Speaker 6: point was Respon's bats bat flight here and there.
Speaker 2: They could not do anything else.
Speaker 6: They were completely on day for when that batting assault
Speaker 6: was happening. It was a proper assault. I was surprised
Speaker 6: that England did not have any ideas. I don't think
Speaker 6: there was. If Ruschapons would have got better connection on it,
Speaker 6: his bat would have gone for a six and the
Speaker 6: ball would have also gone for a six.
Speaker 2: That is what I felt.
Speaker 6: But apart from that, that England team, apart from those
Speaker 6: chances that they got, there was nothing in it for them.
Speaker 6: So why put your bowlers through that shame? Why put
Speaker 6: your bowlers through that shame where another guy almost quote
Speaker 6: two twin double hundreds against you? Why put your bowlers
Speaker 6: through that shame. They don't deserve it. Your batters are
Speaker 6: anyways crap. Apart from Joe Root and maybe Ben Ducket
Speaker 6: to an extent, Sacrawley always comes out he's a walking wicket.
Speaker 6: Might as well Sanchoi bashir there. Let him at a
Speaker 6: six and let's all rejoice, I guess than seeing this
Speaker 6: Sacrawley struggle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope England are listening to this episode. And
Speaker 5: then you know, giving back in Lodge to both of you,
Speaker 5: especially one of you saying that Zach Crimestroms send you're
Speaker 5: questioning Harry Brooks's greatness.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's going to.
Speaker 5: End, but quickly before we go any changes to this
Speaker 5: leven apart from Boom boomra is coming back in place
Speaker 5: of whom first tell me that.
Speaker 7: Any day you can't have the bowl of leaking runs.
Speaker 2: Or dressed sa for this match. What do you think?
Speaker 7: No, I don't want him to be rested.
Speaker 2: I want I want to see this trio work, and.
Speaker 7: I also want to leave to get a game. I
Speaker 7: don't lots is not the pitch to give me your
Speaker 7: eleven then, so my level is simple.
Speaker 1: I will have so.
Speaker 5: Say Lodge has a little more spicier pitch than this.
Speaker 5: So it's not a flat track. It's not a flat track.
Speaker 7: I make three changes again, a whole sort of changes
Speaker 7: that I have made in last test, also sitting in. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so kal jasull okay, Karen one more test to prove himself.
Speaker 7: Then Gil, then punt Jadeja, and then I will give
Speaker 7: I will give another chance. I will give you one
Speaker 7: more chance because I just want t is there. Then
Speaker 7: I'll bring in Leap in place of washing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Then i'll have a cash deep, I will have Boomera,
Speaker 7: and I will have Siraj and obviously is part of
Speaker 7: that playing. So you've made to changes, changes to change.
Speaker 7: I thought I will bring but no, that will short
Speaker 7: our batting it a lot. So give one more chances
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 6: I think I'll probably maybe I don't know, maybe give
Speaker 6: size chance instead of I think that is not.
Speaker 5: Just shopping and changing too much. If you do that,
Speaker 5: if the gold size version, you have to wait for
Speaker 5: your chances.
Speaker 2: Let him wait, get him.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't have a problem with Karen there
Speaker 6: being there. I think in that first inning he looked
Speaker 6: very good second in good.
Speaker 2: Slip catches, So let him be, let him be there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, keep Jess all away from all that, just tell
Speaker 6: jess All to bat you just bat rest will take
Speaker 6: care of things. I think that is pretty good. Apart
Speaker 6: from that, I don't I want.
Speaker 2: To see this.
Speaker 6: Uh uh yeah, unleash hell on England. If they crack
Speaker 6: under that trio, then good luck. The series might be done.
Speaker 6: Because the last two tests, I feel India can draw
Speaker 6: them and just take the win and.
Speaker 2: Go right rain rain Train will take care of Manchester.
Speaker 5: But for me, if it's a spicy pitch, if they
Speaker 5: leave grass on the day of the test, like two
Speaker 5: days before the test.
Speaker 2: Everybody leaves grass.
Speaker 5: But if there is going to be spice, I'll just
Speaker 5: make two changes boomera and place of press. Then I'll
Speaker 5: put washing out and bring us deep in. I don't
Speaker 5: want there because probably two spinners won't get you anything.
Speaker 5: So four pacers out and out pacers go for the
Speaker 5: killed if it's a spicy pitch. Otherwise I'll just make
Speaker 5: one change get in place of pressing. I'll still want
Speaker 5: to you know, just be safe with the batting for
Speaker 5: this test. Yes, should get his chance, but not.
Speaker 2: At lots what I think.
Speaker 5: I think also, if we are making these predictions, we
Speaker 5: should also open our listeners. And viewers to make their predictions,
Speaker 5: to get their views on what they thought about Supermann
Speaker 5: Gil at the start of the series and what they
Speaker 5: think of him now after two tests. And also are
Speaker 5: these two guys going overboard with their criticism of England
Speaker 5: and Bastball and Ben Stokes and the next gen King
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Speaker 2: Thank you.