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back to the Peaking Yana Show. Aaron's back. You know,

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it's been a little while. It's been at least two months.

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Speaker 2: It's been too long since I've been on a professional

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and interest program.

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Speaker 1: Bird, I'm sorry, Bird, that has good Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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all right. So I reached out. I was going through

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run Uns's American prov this series, and I found this article.

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It was the second time I've read it, and I

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was like, you know, this really needs to be read

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on the show. Considering also that I'm reading two hundred

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Years together with Matthew Rafael, doctor Matthew Rafael Johnson, which

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just really concentrates on one aspect of Russian history. But this,

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this starts nailing down the revolution itself. And there was

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no one else I wanted to have on because I mean,

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I I don't know that there I've ever like talked

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to somebody who even calls themselves like a communist or

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a Marxist, who knows as much about Marxism and Communism

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as or who can actually play one on the internet

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as well as you do.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Yes, I am still in a vowed

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Marxist Leninist, and it's it's been a strange journey, but

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here I am on the Pete Conyonas show yet again.

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Speaker 1: I remember we were reading reading State and Revolution. Everybody's

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like why are you reading this? It's like, oh, just wait, yeah, yep,

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just wait.

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Speaker 2: We must be doing something right, all right.

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Speaker 1: So this is something that he dropped on July twenty third,

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twenty eighteen, sixty nine hundred words. Nice. It's from his

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American prov this series. If you have not read it,

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start If it's like, oh, this just seems like too

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big a task, just go to the ones that are

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surrounding World War two and start reading. Or he has

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audio on the website you can download that. I listened

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to it at one point seventy five speed because mister

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Uns does talk very slowly and deliberately. But this one

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is titled the Bolshevik Revolution and it's aftermath. And for

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those who are not watching, there's a postage stamp of

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Leon Trotsky real name lev Da Vidovich Bronstein, and it's

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a one hundredth anniversary of the Bolshiit and Bic Revolution

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stamp that came out in twenty seventeen. I think that

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was in Russia.

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Speaker 2: He's got a good head of hair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, reminds me of that old Seinfeld episode You're when

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he gets some Chinese guy he likes. Finds out there's

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some Chinese cure and he calls China, but he can't

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talk to anybody, goes they're Chinese. So the delivery guy

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who's Chinese gets on the phone and just starts talking

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to the guy and he's like, hey, hey, ask me

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if if you can grow hair, And the guy goes, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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you grow hair. You look like Stalin, who had a

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great head of hair and also looked like a male

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model as a young man as he was robbing stage coaches.

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Speaker 2: Handsome dude, lady killer.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start reading this. Stop me whenever, man,

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mm hm. Although I always had a great interest in history,

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and therefore regarded American history as just too bland and

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boring to study.

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Speaker 2: Cases. Yeah, it's insane. How your high school history classes

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just numb three quarters of the students in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's meant to do that. A really good history

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book if you want to start with American history. Tom

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oldest continuous civilization with a tangled modern history of revolutionary upheaval,

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then suddenly reopened to the West during the next administration

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and under Dang's economic reforms, starting to reverse decades of

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Maoist economic failure. I know someone who had had a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dark maga Deng Xiaoping.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen he's an inspiration. Yeah. In nineteen seventy eight,

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political economy and probably read thirty or forty books during

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that semester. Can you imagine? Can you imagine having the

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time to do that?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't. I can do I can read all those

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books under a highway bridge if that was my job.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a callback from long ago. Io Wilson

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of harsh ideological suppression, and with his ideas in the

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back of my mind, I couldn't help noteing the obvious

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implications of the material I was reading. The Chinese had

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analysis as how social Darwinism made modern China. With the

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Chinese people clearly having such tremendous inherent talent and their

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potential already demonstrated on a much smaller scale in Hong Kong,

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Taiwan and Singapore, I believe there was an excellent chance

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that Deang's reforms would unleash enormous economic growth, and sure enough,

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that's what that was exactly what happened in the late

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nineteen seventies. China was poor than Haiti, but I always

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told my friends that it might come to dominate the

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world economically within a couple of generations. And although most

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of them were initially quite skeptical of such an outrageous claim,

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every for you years they became a little less so

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The Economists had long been my favorite magazine, and in

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nineteen eighty six they published an especially long letter of mine,

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emphasizing the tremendous rising potential of China and urging them

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to expand their coverage with a new Asia section. The

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following year, they did exactly that.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Uh. From the eighties onward, even until now, it's

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going to be the Chinese century.

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Speaker 1: Kind of hard to argue, kind of hard to argue

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against that, especially when you have the world's quote unquote

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superpower sending all their manufacturing there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, but when it collapses it will be spectacular.

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Speaker 1: Like fireworks levels spectacular. These days, I feel tremendous humiliation

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for having spent most of my life being so totally

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wrong about so many things for so long, and I

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claim to China as a very welcome exception. I can't

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think of a single development during the last forty years

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that I wouldn't have generally expected back in the late

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nineteen seventies, with the only surprise having been the total

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lack of surprises. About The only revision I've had to

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make in my historical framework is that I'd always casually

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accepted the ubiquitous claim that Mao's disastrous Great Leap Forward

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of nineteen fifty nine to sixty one had caused thirty

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five million or more deaths. But I recently encountered some

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serious doubts suggesting that such a total could be considerably exaggerated,

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and today I might admit the possibility that only fifteen

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million or fewer had died. I love I read that.

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European history was even more fascinating to me, with a

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political interplay of so many conflicting states in the huge

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ideological military upheavals of the twentieth century. In my unjustified arrogance,

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I also sometimes relished a sense of seeing obvious things

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that magazine and newspaper journalists got so completely wrong, mistakes

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which often slipped into historical narratives as well. For example,

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discussions of the Titanic twentieth century military struggles between Germany

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and Russia quite often made casual references to the traditional

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hostility between those two great peoples, who for centuries had

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stood as bitter rivals, representing the eternal struggle of slav

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against Tuton for dominion over Eastern Europe.

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Speaker 2: And he does a really good job following this explaining

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why that is completely incorrect.

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Speaker 1: Although the bloodstained history of the Two World Wars made

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that notion seem obvious, it was a fact. It was

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factually mistaken. Prior to nineteen fourteen, those two great peoples

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had not fought against each other for the previous one

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hundred and fifty years, and even the Seven Years War

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or the mid eighteenth century had involved a Russian alliance

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with Germanic Austria against Germanic Prussia, hardly amounting to a

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conflict along civilizational lines. Russians and Germans had been staunch

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allies during the endless Napoleonic Wars, closely cooperated closely cooperated

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during the the Metaics and bismarck Eras that followed, while

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even as late as nineteen oh four Germany had supported

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Russia in its unsuccessful war against Japan. Later why Mark

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doctor Johnson says that he really considers that war, if

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he really studied it, it's like a draw. Oh the uh,

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the Russians were Japanese Japanese war. Yeah, he said, If

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you studied a little more closely and look at it politically,

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it's really a draw.

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Speaker 2: It was a draw, but it also solidified Japan's place

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as a colonial power.

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Speaker 1: It definitely gave them legitimacy, gave him legitimacy, but also

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gave them confidence to do some heinous fucking shit. Oh yeah,

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all right. Later bymar Germany and Soviet Russia had a

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period of close military cooperation during the nineteen twenties. The

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Hitler Stalin Pact of nineteen thirty nine marked the beginning

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of the Second World War, and during the long Cold War,

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the USSR had no more loyalist satellite than East Germany,

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the real Germany. Well think about it, what are the

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most what sections of Germany right now reject modernism more

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than any other?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's East Germany. And I'm sure if any Germans

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were left in Prussia it would be that too.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps two dozen years of hostilities over the last three centuries,

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with good relations and even outright alliance during most of

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the remainder hardly suggested that suggested that Russians and Germans

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were hereditary enemies. Over Through much of that period, Russia's

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ruling elite had had a considerable german Manic tinge. Russia's

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legendary Catherine the Great had been a German princess by birth,

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and over the century, so many Russian rulers had taken

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German wives that the later csars of the Romanov dynasty

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were usually more German than Russian. Russia itself had a

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substantial but heavily assimilated German population, which was very well

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represented in elite political circles, with German names being quite

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common among German government ministers and sometimes found among important

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military commanders. Even a top leader of the Decembrist revolt

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of the early nineteenth century had had German ancestry, but

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was a zealous Russian nationalist in his ideology where did

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I go? There we go? Under the governance of this

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mixed Russian and German ruling class, the Russian Empire had

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steadily risen to become one of the world's foremost powers. Indeed,

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given its vast sized manpower and resources, combined with one

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of the fastest world's fastest economic growth rates and a

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natural increase in total population, it was not far behind.

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A nineteen fourteen observer might have easily pegged it to

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soon dominate the European continent and perhaps even much of

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the world, just as Tolkville had famously prophesized in the

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early decades of the nineteenth century. A crucial underlying cause

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of the First World War was Britain's belief that only

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a preventative war could forestall a rising Germany. But I

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suspect that an important secondary cause was to parallel German

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notion that similar measures were necessary against arising Russia.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good old perfidious Albion. We need to maintain

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equilibrium on the continent, even if it means killing millions

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of people.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, this entire landscape was totally transformed by the Bolshevik

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Revolution of nineteen seventeen, which swept the Old Order from power,

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massacring much of its leadership, up enforcing the remainder to flee,

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thereby ushering in the modern era of ideological and revolutionary regimes.

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Cold War, when the Soviet Union stood as America's great

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international adversary, so the history of the revolution and its

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aftermath always fascinated me. During college and graduate school, I

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probably read at least one hundred books on that general topic,

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devouring the brilliant works of Soulshanis and Solokov. The thick

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historical volumes of mainstream academic scholars such as Adam Uhlan

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Ulam and Richard Pipes, as well as the writings of

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leaving Soviet dissidents such as Roy Medvedev, Andre Soakarov, and

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Andre al Amalrik. I was fascinated by the tragic story

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of how Stalin outmaneuvered Trotsky and his other rivals, leading

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to the massive purchase of the nineteen thirties. As Stalin's

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growing paranoia produced such gigantic loss of life.

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Speaker 2: The uh, the Great Purge started in what nineteen thirty six?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean I think most people would say,

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what thirty six to thirty nine?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, And I what I never grasped, and maybe

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I just didn't research long enough, but it seemed like

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it was a lot of Jews killing other Jews, and

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it really was just divided along ideological lines trotsky Ies

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versus I guess what would later be known as Stalinists.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about thirty six to thirty nine is they

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actually have officers in the field at that time in Spain. Yeah,

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and they're you have to wonder in that period if

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he sees okay, maybe early on he's like, well, I

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think it looks like the nationalists are going to win this.

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They're going to split the country. They're going to split

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the East coast as well. What they did and basically

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it was it was over after that. I'm wondering if

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he just was like, it's going to take so much

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more to do what we want to do. I just

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need to get everyone that I think is in my way.

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I need to get them out.

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Speaker 2: Of my way. Yeah, it would make sense that he

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would send trotsky Ies to to help the UH, to

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help the Spanish.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this is also the time when he's

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looking and he's seeing what kind of what foreign groups

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are living in, like what diaspora groups are in his

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in his nation that have home countries like Germans, Lithuanians

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and others that he pulls especially that I mean, he

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just kills a mass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. Yeah. And it also makes sense from an

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ideological perspective that trotsky Ice would be more likely to

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volunteer air in these in these brushfire wars in other

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countries because their whole, their whole shtick is, you know,

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we need permanent revolution for the world, whereas Stalin, I mean,

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the main point of contention was you know, we need

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to get our house in order before we talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe he looked at Spain and he saw the

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just how many factions there were in Spain, and he

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felt that maybe that's why the the quote unquote Republicans lost. Yeah,

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and you know, we we need to get rid of

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any possible factions in this country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, send send them to the meat grinder. Why not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not so totally naive that I did

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not recognize some of the powerful taboos surrounding discussion of

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the Bolsheviks, particularly regarding their ethnic composition. Although most of

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the books hardly emphasized the point, anyone with a careful

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eye for the occasional sentence or paragraph would surely know

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that Jews were enormously overrepresented among the top top revolutionary

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he's with three of Lenin's five potential successors, Trotsky, Zenoviev,

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and Kamenev all coming from that background, along with many

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many others within the top communist leadership.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, whose assassination was it one of them? Whose assassination

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spurred the pursas.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't no, Well, it definitely wasn't Trotsky. He

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was killed in Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was ah, fuck, I have it in my

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notes somewhere, but we're going to revisit that.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Obviously this was wildly disproportionate in a country having

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a Jewish population of perhaps four percent, and surely helped

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explain the large spike in worldwide hostility toward Jews soon afterward,

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which sometimes took the most deranged and irrational forms, such

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as the popularity of the Protocols of the Learned Elders

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of Zion and Henry Ford's notorious publication of the International Jew. Now,

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do not go comparing the Protocols with Henry Ford, because

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anyone who's read Henry Ford knows that those are he

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is basically writing what he's seeing. I mean, that's just

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he's writing these things in a newspaper. The Protocols of

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Learning at Elders a Zion is something that, sure, it

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looks like it could have been a roadmap for something,

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and a lot of it came true, But we have

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no real there's no real idea of who did. I mean,

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I've heard people say Benjamin Disraeli wrote it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never read it. I've heard about it a

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lot in our studies, but I've never sat down and

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read it. But it makes sense that Henry Ford did

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read it and I kind of informed his his seemingly

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uh views that came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: But with Russian Jews so much more likely to be

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educated and urbanized and suffering from fierce andy so medic

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oppression into the Csars, everything seemed to make reasonable sense.

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It wasn't fierce. I'll tell you that when you read

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Sulshanesan's other book, it wasn't fierce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean starting with like when when the Jews

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first met the Kasars and ended up converting them, and

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then they'd moved northwest and met the Kievan russ and

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impressed everybody with how great craftsmen and traders they were.

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It kind of oscillated between we like you, we don't

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like you. We like you so much, we want you

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to be in our in our court, in our advisor,

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our royal advisors, and then swung the other way to

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you're not allowed to trade with us, you're not allowed

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to own land. It's like looking at the history of

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of of Jews in Russia, it's it's it oscillates leader

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to leader.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like what did say was to say

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in the Bible, a pharaoh. Pharaoh was born who did

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not know of Joseph.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They basically it was the next leader wasn't educated on

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this group of foreigners that were living in their land,

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and they would give them, they would open up doors

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and allow them to be able to have a little

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more freedom. And they immediately took advantage of it. And

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then it was like, Okay, now we're going to pull

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back on this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like the fifteen hundreds when the whole Judaization heresy

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came about. The Orthodox Church was the law of the

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land at that time, and if it wasn't for them,

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you know, you might have a Jewish a Jewish nation

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in Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well we'll talk about that later. Then, perhaps

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fourteen or fifteen years ago, I encountered a rip in

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my personal time space continuum, among the first of many

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to come. In this particular instance, an especially right wing

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friend of evolutionary theorist Gregory Cochrane, had been spending long

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days browsing the pages of Stormfront, a leading interranet forum

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for the far right, and having come across a remarkable

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factual claim, asked me for my opinion. Allegedly, Jacob Schiff

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I've searched. He I can't find a connection to Peter Schiff.

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People have asked before I've looked. It seems like Peter

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Scheff's faily came here in the thirties.

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Speaker 2: So what does shift translate to.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never checked. It's probably some old

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German name that they stole. Yeah, Allegedly, Jacob Scheff, Americans

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leading Jewish banker, had been the crucial financial supporter of

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the Bolshevik Revolution, providing the Communist revolutionaries with twenty million

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in funding. My first reaction was that such a notion

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was utterly ridiculous, since a fact so enormously explosive could

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not have been ignored by the many dozens of books

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I had read on the origins of that revolution.

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Speaker 2: No, man, it was completely organic grassroots.

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Speaker 1: Didn't all those what in all those guys with like

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similar last names put that in my textbooks?

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Speaker 2: I don't damn it or the level up from that.

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As those evil Germans wanted to shut down their Eastern Front,

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so they funded.

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Speaker 1: The revolution, But the source seemed extremely precise. The Knickerbocker

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columnists in the February third, nineteen forty nine edition of

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The New York Journal American, then one of the leading

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local newspapers, wrote that today, it is estimated by Jacob's

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grandson John Schiff, that the old man sank about twenty

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million dollars for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia.

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Speaker 2: What's that about one billion today?

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Speaker 1: Oh? No, I think it's two. I think he might

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mention that it's two. Yeah, it would be about two

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billion in today's dollars. And he really wanted Bolshevism to

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take take hold in Russia. Huh wonder what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do a lot with two billion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially back then. You can do a lot today,

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But I mean you could do a whole lot more

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back then. Once I checked around a little, I discovered

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that numerous mainstream accounts described the enormous hostility of Shift

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toward the Tsarist regime for its ill treatment of Jews,

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and these days even so establishmentarian a sources. Wikipedia's entry

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on Jacob Shift notes that he played a major role

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financing the Russian Revolution of nineteen oh five, as was

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revealed in the later memoirs of one of his key operatives. Yeah,

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the Russian Revolution in nineteen oh five, what else? What

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else does allegedly happened in that year. There was a

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pogram and Odessa, which was basically revolutionary Jews rising up

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and fighting and then when the Russians fight back, we're

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being pogrommed, We're being post around.

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Speaker 2: Yep. That was kind of the first failed rebellion, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And they they had more guns than the Russians did.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I believe it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you run a search on Jacob Schiff

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Bolshevik Revolution, numerous other references came up, representing a wide

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variety of different positions and degrees of credibility. One very

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interesting statement appears in the memoirs of Henry wickham Stead,

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editor at the Times of London and one of the

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foremost international journalists of his era. He very matter of

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factly mentions that Schiff Warburg and the other top Jewish

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international bankers were among the leading backers of the Jewish Bolsheviks,

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through whom they hoped to gain an opportunity for the

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Jewish exploitation of Russia, and he describes their lobbying efforts

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on behalf of the first of their Bolshevik allies at

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the nineteen nineteen Paris peace conference following the end of

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the First World War.

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Speaker 2: Man that in group preference suicidal.

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Speaker 1: Even the very recent and highly skeptical twenty sixteen and

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night analysis in Kenneth D. Ackerman's twenty sixteen book, Trotzky

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in New York nineteen seventeen notes that US military intelligence

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reports of the period directly made that astonishing claim, pointing

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to Trotsky as the conduit for the heavy financial backing

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of Schiff and numerous other Jewish financiers. In nineteen twenty five,

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this information was published in the British Guardian and was

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widely discussed and discussed and accepted throughout the nineteen twenties

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and nineteen thirties by numerous major media publications, long before

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Schiff's own grandson provided a direct confirmation of those facts

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in nineteen forty nine. Ackerman rather cavalierly dismisses all this

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considerable contemporaneous evidence as antisemitic and a conspiracy story, arguing

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that since Schiff was a notorious conservative who had never

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shown any sympathy for socialism in his own American milieu,

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he surely would not have funded the Bolsheviks.

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Speaker 2: Despite all of those sources that on just named yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean you you have right now, billionaire Jews financing

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quote unquote right wing think tanks who like eighteen months ago,

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were pushing for the transagenda, full on, full steam ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who are they hoping to exploit? Ye?

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Speaker 1: Now, Admittedly a few details might easily have gotten someone

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somewhat garbled over time. For example, although Trotsky quickly became

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second only to Lenin in the Bolshevik hierarchy in early

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nineteen seventeen, the two were still bitterly hostile over various

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ideological disputes, so he certainly was not then considered a

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member of that party. And since everyone today acknowledges that

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Shift had heavily financed a failed nineteen oh five revolution

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in Russia, it seems perfectly possible that the twenty million

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figure mentioned by his grandson refers to the total invested

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over the years supporting all the Differentussian revolutionary movements and leaders,

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which together finally culminated in the establishment of Bolshevik Russia Russia.

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But with so many seemingly credible and independent sources all

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making such similar claims, the basic facts appear almost indisputable.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's so insane, How even back then, what is

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the twenties and thirties, you still you could talk about

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it openly and nobody gave a shit. But within the

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span of a year, what nineteen forty eight, like that

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was completely taboo and you were an anti American Nazi

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for even even bringing up these sources.

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Speaker 1: Well, Chef's grandson could say it because he was Jewish. Yeah,

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so he's allowed to, you know, if not celebrate it,

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at least put it out there. But if you judge

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it in any way, that's that's where the problem them start.

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Consider the implications of this remarkable conclusion. I would assume

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that most of shift's funding of revolutionary activities was spent

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on items such as activist stipends and bribes, and adjusted

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for the average family's income of that era, twenty million

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would be as like as much as two billion in

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present day money. Surely, without such a enormous financial support,

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the likelihood of any Bolshevik victory would have been far lower,

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perhaps almost impossible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean just in food aid alone. I mean,

474
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they were not guaranteed, they were not guaranteed to be successful.

475
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But the thing that would have brought them down is

476
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just their people starving to death. And I'm sure some

477
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of that twenty million went towards food aid and you know,

478
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civilian resources to keep things chugging along, keep things stable,

479
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or as stable as they could be.

480
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Speaker 1: When people casually to joke about the total insanity of

481
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,359
anti Semitic conspiracy theories, no better example was ever tossed

482
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,720
around than the self evidently absurd notion that the international

483
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:12,440
Jewish bankers had created the worldwide communist movement. And yet

484
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,160
by any reasonable standard, this statement appears to be more

485
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,200
or less true, and apparently was widely known, at least

486
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in rough form for decades after the Russian Revolution, but

487
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,079
had never been mentioned in any of the numerous more

488
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:28,559
recent histories to shape my own knowledge of these events. Indeed,

489
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none of these very comprehensive sources ever even mentioned Schiff's name,

490
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:36,920
although it was universally acknowledged that he had funded the

491
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nineteen oh five revolution, which was often discussed in enormous

492
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,039
detail in many of those very weighty books. What other

493
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:49,279
astonishing facts might they be similarly be concealing? What might

494
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they be good?

495
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Speaker 2: It's well think about when we first started reading about this,

496
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,839
about the bulls, about the Bolshevik Revolution, about Marxist Lennon as,

497
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,920
and just going through all of the names and places

498
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,839
and seeing that, seeing the characteristics of those names and places,

499
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and I'm sure we made I'm sure we made a

500
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,519
couple jokes about it, but it never I don't. It

501
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didn't dawn on me that it characterized the entirety of Bolshevism.

502
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Like I still thought it was the Russian Revolution, but

503
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,160
there was really nothing Russian about it. In fact, it

504
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,079
was anti.

505
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,039
Speaker 1: Russian, well, the Russian Russian Jews. Les Khan his book

506
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:43,079
The Jewish Century, which was I mean won like Jewish

507
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,200
literary awards. He has numbers, he has like percentages down

508
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,480
through the years. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's I mean,

509
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when you look at the basically the executioners the ENKVD,

510
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it's like forty.

511
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the first, the first leader of the NKAVD,

512
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the second. It's something like it oscillates between like sixty

513
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to eighty percent of all cadres in the uh in

514
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like the United Soviets were Jews.

515
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I heard recently that the I think it was

516
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called the Abraham Lincoln Division that fought in the Spanish

517
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Civil War was three thousand Americans. I think it was

518
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:33,319
sixty percent reduced.

519
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: Which has just been called the Abraham legion.

520
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Speaker 1: When someone encounters remarkable new revelations in an area of

521
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:46,039
history in which his knowledge was rudimentary, being little more

522
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,599
than being a little more than introductory textbooks or history

523
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,240
one on one courses, the results is a shock and

524
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,200
an embarrassment. But when the same situation occurs in an

525
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680
area in which he had read tens of thousands of

526
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,160
pages in the leading authoritative texts, which seemingly explored every

527
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,799
minor detail, surely his sense of reality begins to crumble.

528
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,559
In nineteen ninety nine, Harvard University published an English edition

529
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of The Black Book of Communism, whose six co authors

530
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,760
devoted eight hundred and fifty pages to documenting the hords

531
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,960
inflicted upon the world by that defunct system, which had

532
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,559
produced a total death toll they reckoned at one hundred million.

533
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:33,239
I never read, Yeah, yeah, I have never read that book,

534
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,719
and I have often heard that the alleged body count

535
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,639
had been widely disputed. But for me, the most remarkable

536
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,880
details is that when I examined the thirty five page index,

537
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,280
I see a vast profusion of entries for totally obscure

538
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,599
individuals whose names are surely unknown to all but the

539
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,760
most erudite specialists. But there is no entry for Jacob Schiff,

540
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,159
the world famous Jewish banker who apparently financed the creation

541
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,039
of the whole system in the first place, nor one

542
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:04,199
for Olaf ach ach Aschberg, the powerful Jewish banker in Sweden,

543
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,159
who played such an important role in providing the Bolsheviks

544
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:10,280
a financial lifeline during the early years of their threatened regime,

545
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and even funded the first Soviet international bank.

546
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Speaker 2: Huh.

547
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: When one discovers a tear in the fabric of reality,

548
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,960
there is a natural tendency to nervously peer within, wondering

549
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,920
what mysterious objects might dwell there. The Ackerman book denounced

550
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,719
the notion of Schiff having funded the Bolsheviks as a

551
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,199
favorite trope of Nazi anti Jewish propaganda, and just prior

552
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,679
to those words, he issued a similar denunciation of Henry

553
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,159
Ford's Dearborn Independent, a publication which would have meant almost

554
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,280
nothing to me. Although Ackerman's particular book had not been

555
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,079
published when I began exploring the Shift story a dozen

556
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:53,320
years ago, many other writers had similarly conjoined those two topics,

557
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,760
so I decided to explore the matter. Ford himself, a

558
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,480
very was a very interesting individual, and his world historical

559
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:06,639
role certainly received very scant coverage in my basic history textbooks.

560
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,000
Although the exact reasons for his decision to raise his

561
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,719
minimum wage to five dollars per day in nineteen fourteen,

562
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:15,960
double the existing average pay for industrial workers in America,

563
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,039
can be disputed, it certainly seems to have played a

564
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,119
huge role in the creation of our middle class. He

565
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,639
also adopted a highly paternalistic policy of providing good company

566
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,000
housing and other amenities to his workers, a total departure

567
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,320
from the robber baron capitalism so widely practiced at that time,

568
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,519
thereby establishing himself as a worldwide hero to industrial workers

569
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and their advocates.

570
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Speaker 2: Not anymore, he's not. Yeah, well, you never hear about that.

571
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:44,400
The only thing I remember hearing about Henry Ford in

572
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:47,880
history class was the assembly line. How he perfected the

573
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,679
assembly line?

574
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: Yep, and that was it.

575
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

576
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: I would like him to read the book The House

577
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:04,280
of Morgan, because barren capitalism is kind of a myth

578
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,039
unto itself.

579
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. I've seen similar, similar things pointing to that.

580
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,760
But yeah, I mean, it was always it was always

581
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,000
the union, the labor unions and labor activism. That led

582
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,159
to the minimum wage in the forty hour work week. Yeah,

583
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:24,239
who leads them?

584
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Speaker 1: Indeed, Lenin himself had regarded Ford as a towering figure

585
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,679
in the world's revolutionary firmament, lossing over his conservative views

586
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,320
and commitments of capitalism, instead focusing on his remarkable achievements

587
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,400
in work of productivity and economic well being. It is

588
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,280
a forgotten detail of history that, even after Ford's considerable

589
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,840
hostility to the Russian Revolution became widely known, the Bolsheviks

590
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:54,519
still described their own industrial development policy as Fordism. Indeed

591
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:58,400
it was not. Indeed, it was not unusual to see

592
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,880
portraits of Lenin and Ford hanging side by side in

593
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,880
Soviet factories, representing the two greatest secular saints of the

594
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Bolshevik pantheon.

595
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Speaker 2: Wow, I did not know that that they lionized Henry Ford.

596
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,119
Speaker 1: Oh, he has a He actually has a footnote here

597
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,800
to to go to that. So you can find out

598
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,000
about the Lenin and Ford things. Yes, we do that later,

599
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,840
all right, And yeah, and you need the hot link.

600
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,880
I downloaded the PBF, but this is actually online and

601
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,519
all of these are hot links, so you could go

602
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:35,239
back and forth with them. So I'll make sure to

603
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,800
provide a link in the show notes. As for the

604
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,079
Dearborn Independent, Ford had apparently launched his newspaper on a

605
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national basis not long after the end of the war,

606
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:49,000
intending to focus on controversial topics, especially those related to

607
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:53,079
Jewish misbehavior, whose discussion he believed was being ignored or

608
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,760
suppressed by nearly all mainstream media outlets. I wonder why

609
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,159
that would be.

610
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Speaker 2: Nothing's changed one hundred years.

611
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: I had been aware that he had long been one

612
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,719
of the wealthiest and most highly regarded individuals in America,

613
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,599
but I was still astonished to discover that his weekly newspaper,

614
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,000
previously almost unknown to me, had reached a total national

615
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:18,360
circulation of nine hundred thousand by nineteen twenty five, ranking

616
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,360
it as the second largest in the country and by

617
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,719
far the biggest with the national distribution. I found no

618
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,880
easy means of examining the contents of a typical issue,

619
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,960
but apparently the anti Jewish articles of the first couple

620
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,519
of years had been collected and published as short books.

621
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As short books together constituting the four volumes of The

622
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:43,119
International jew The World's Foremost Problem, A notoriously anti Semitic

623
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:47,880
work occasionally mentioned in my history textbooks. Eventually, my curiosity

624
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,159
got the best of me, so it clicked a few

625
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:53,000
buttons on Amazon dot Com, bought the set, and wondered

626
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:53,920
what I would discover.

627
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,559
Speaker 2: God, it's kind of a shame that Henry Ford died

628
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:04,599
shortly before George Lincoln Rockwell came to be. That could

629
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:05,679
have been very interesting.

630
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Speaker 1: Based on all my presuppositions, I expected to read some

631
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,599
foaming at the mouth screened and doubted I would be

632
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:16,559
able to get past the first dozen pages before losing

633
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:19,360
interest and consigning the volumes together at dust on my shelves.

634
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,639
But what I actually encountered was something entirely different. Over

635
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:25,760
the last couple of decades, the enormous growth in the

636
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,159
power and influence of Jewish and pro Israel groups in

637
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,960
America had occasionally led writers to cautiously raise certain facts

638
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,480
regarding the untoward influence of those organizations and activists, while

639
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,880
always carefully emphasizing that the vast majority of ordinary Jews

640
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,599
do not benefit from these policies and actually might be

641
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,400
harmed by them, even leading aside the possible risk of

642
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:51,960
eventually provoking an anti Jewish backlash. I mean, that's basically

643
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,760
what's you can go on Twitter, and someone's typing that

644
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,199
right now?

645
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:02,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it seems it always seemed

646
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:06,960
like a soft conflict between the Marxist Jews and the

647
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:14,079
Zionist Jews, but lately, they, like I think the Marxist

648
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:19,000
Jews have been suffering, just setback after setback. Yeah, get

649
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:23,599
the ask, and Thesionist Jews don't seem to be doing

650
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,239
much better.

651
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: No, no, now they if he if nta who ignores

652
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,679
the ceasefire? I mean, I don't know. Did you see

653
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,519
that that headline in.

654
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: Uh, the hell to pay?

655
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, the hell to pay if if we don't find

656
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,280
a solution to this, there'll be hell to pay. And

657
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,920
what did it say? It said? Trump's all hell to

658
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,079
pay threat was also directed at Israel, not just Hamas.

659
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep he oh yeah, who can blame them? The

660
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,199
first world leader to congratulate Joe Biden in twenty twenty.

661
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: We know how people, We know how Trump treats people

662
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,960
who you know, we know how he treats people who

663
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:17,400
are loyal to him. Yeah, we know how he just

664
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:24,679
look how he treats people who are disloyal. All right,

665
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,440
So where was I? Okay?

666
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Speaker 2: Uh?

667
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Speaker 1: To my considerable surprise, I found that the vast majority

668
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,199
of the material in Ford's three hundred thousand word series

669
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seem to follow the same pattern in tone. The individual

670
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:41,239
eighty chapter columns of Ford's volumes generally discussed particular issues

671
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,480
and events, some of which were well known to me,

672
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:46,559
but with the vast majority totally obscured by the passage

673
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:49,800
of almost one hundred years. But as far as I

674
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,800
could tell, almost all the discussions seem quite plausible and

675
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,440
factually oriented, even sometimes overly cautious in their presentation, And

676
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:01,199
with one exception, I can't recall anything that seemed fanciful

677
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,440
or unreasonable. As an example, there was no claim that

678
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,639
Schiff or his fellow Jewish bankers had funded the Bolshevik Revolution,

679
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,239
since those particular facts had not yet come out, only

680
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,719
that he had seemed to be strongly supportive of the

681
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,079
overthrow of Czarism and had worked toward the end for

682
00:43:18,199 --> 00:43:21,480
many years, motivated by what he regarded as a hostility

683
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:24,159
of the Russian Empire towards its Jewish subjects.

684
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 2: Oh so it's an ethnic conflict.

685
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: This sort of discussion is not at all that different

686
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:35,960
from what one might find in a modern shift biography

687
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,960
or in his Wikipedia entry, though many of the important

688
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,400
details presented in the four books have disappeared from the

689
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:43,559
historical record.

690
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:47,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, just disappeared. Nobody knows where they went.

691
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't wasn't Gallane Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell publishing most of

692
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our textbooks for about twenty years?

693
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Speaker 2: What was the public name? Was it?

694
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: Random House?

695
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,079
Speaker 2: Oh? My God?

696
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Speaker 1: Although I somehow managed to plow through all four volumes

697
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:13,280
of The International jew the unrelenting drumbeat of Jewish intrigue

698
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:19,480
and misbehavior became somewhat supporphyic after a while, especially since

699
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:22,760
so many of the examples provided may have loomed quite

700
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,000
large in nineteen twenty or nineteen twenty one, but are

701
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,000
almost totally forgotten today. Most of the content was a

702
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:33,360
collection of rather monotonous complaints regarding Jewish malfsa, scandals and clannishness,

703
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,800
the sort of mundane matters which might have normally appeared

704
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,960
in the pages of an ordinary newspaper magazine, let alone

705
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,920
one of the mud racking type. However, I cannot fault

706
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,239
the publication for such a narrow focus. A consistent theme

707
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,079
was that, because of the intimidating fear of Jewish activists

708
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:55,280
and influence virtually all of America's regular media outlets avoided

709
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,760
discussion of any of these important matters, and since this

710
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,599
new publication was intended to remedy that void, it necessarily

711
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,840
required coverage overwhelmingly skewed toward that particular subject.

712
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:09,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.

713
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: The articles were also aimed at gradually expanding the window

714
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,840
of public debate and eventually shame other periodicals into discussing

715
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Jewish behavior. Good luck when leading magazines such as The

716
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,320
Atlantic Monthly and Century Magazine began running such articles, the

717
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,840
result was cited as a major success.

718
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, that lasted maybe what eight years? Yeah?

719
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,639
Speaker 1: Another important goal was to make ordinary Jews more aware

720
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:46,280
of the very problematical behavior of many of their community leaders. Occasionally,

721
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,000
the publication received a letter of praise from a self

722
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:52,559
proclaimed proud American Jew, commending the series and sometimes including

723
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,960
a check to purchase subscriptions for other members of his community,

724
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,800
and this achievement might become the subject of an extended discussion.

725
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,760
And although the details of these individual stories differed considerably

726
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,960
from those of today, the pattern of behavior being criticized

727
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,360
seemed remarkably similar. Change a few facts adjust to society

728
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,960
for a century of change, and many of the stories

729
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:19,079
might be exactly the same ones that well meaning people

730
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:23,239
concerned about the future of our country are quietly discussing today.

731
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: Or more conversely, if you rewind a hundred years, they

732
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,320
might have been discussed at that time as well.

733
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Most remarkably, there were even a couple of a

734
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,360
couple of columns about the troubled relationship between the earliest

735
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,239
Scionist settlers in Palestine and the surrounding native Palestinians, and

736
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,400
deep complaints that, under Jewish pressure, the media often totally

737
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:47,559
misreported or hid some of the outrages suffered by the

738
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:48,280
latter group.

739
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's changed.

740
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: I certainly cannot vouch for the overall accuracy of the

741
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,159
contents of these volumes, but at the very least they

742
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:01,119
would constitute an extremely valuable source of raw material for

743
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,840
further historical investigation. So many of the events and incidents

744
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,760
they recount seem to have been entirely omitted from the

745
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,920
major media publications of that day, and surely were never

746
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:15,199
included in later historical narratives. Given that even such widely

747
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,639
known stories as Shift's major financial backing of the Bolsheviks

748
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:24,480
were completely tossed down George Orwell's Memory Hole. With the

749
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:27,239
volumes long out of copyright, I have added the set

750
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to my collection of HTML books, and those so interested

751
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,320
may read the text and decide for themselves. As mentioned,

752
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,519
the overwhelming majority of the international Jews seems a rather

753
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:44,960
bland recitation of complaints about Jewish misbehavior. But there is

754
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:48,199
one major exception which has a very different impact upon

755
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,360
our modern mind, namely that the writer took very seriously

756
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,440
the Protocols of Learned Elders a Zion. Probably no conspiracy

757
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:58,039
theory in modern times has been subjected to such immense

758
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:01,639
vilification and ridicules as to protos, But a voyage of

759
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,960
discovery often acquires a momentum of its own, and I

760
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:11,400
became curious about the nature of that infamous document. Apparently,

761
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,360
the Protocols first came to light during the last decade

762
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,440
of the nineteenth century, and the British Museum stored a

763
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:19,960
copy in nineteen oh six, but it attracted relatively little

764
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,920
attention at the time. However, all this changed after the

765
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,599
Bolshevik Revolution and toppling of many other long standing governments

766
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:29,880
at the end of the First World War led many

767
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,960
people to seek a common cause behind so many enormous

768
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,119
political uphupils. From my distance of many decades, the text

769
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:41,760
of the Protocols struck me as rather bland and even dull, describing,

770
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,639
a rather long winded fashion, a plan of secret subversion

771
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:48,760
aimed at weakening the bonds of the social fabric, setting

772
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,880
groups against each other, gaining control over political leaders by

773
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,679
bribery and blackmail, and eventually restoring society along rigidly hierarchical

774
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,840
lines with an entirely new group and control. Admittedly, there

775
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,480
were many shrewd insights into politics or psychology, notably the

776
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:07,960
enormous power of the media and the benefits of advancing

777
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:12,239
political frontmen who were deeply compromised or incompetent and hence

778
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,480
easily controllable, But nothing else really jumped out at me.

779
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,880
Perhaps one reason I found the text of the Protocols

780
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,920
so unsurprising is that, over the century since its publication,

781
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,320
these notions of diabolical plots by hidden groups have become

782
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,719
such a common theme in our entertainment media. Would countless

783
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,360
thousands of spy novels and science fiction stories presenting something similar,

784
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,119
though these usually involved far more exciting means, such as

785
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:39,800
a super weapon or a powerful drug. If some bond

786
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,320
villain proclaimed his intent to conquer the world merely through

787
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,559
simple political subversion, I suspect that such a film would

788
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:52,280
immediately die at the box office. But back one hundred

789
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,679
years ago, these were apparently exciting in novel notions, and

790
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,039
I actually found the discussion of the Protocols in many

791
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,599
of the chapters of The National Jew far more interesting

792
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:04,880
and informative than reading the text itself. The author of

793
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,639
the Forward Books seems to appropriately treat it as any

794
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,760
other historical document, dissecting its content, speculating on its providence,

795
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,480
and wondering whether or not it was what it's purported

796
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:19,320
to be, namely, an approximate record of the statements of

797
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,159
a group of conspirators pursuing mastery over the world, with

798
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,199
those conspirators widely believed to be an elite fraternity of

799
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,360
international Jews.

800
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ian Fleming probably read the protocols, because if you

801
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:35,440
look at all of the names of all the villains

802
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:41,320
inspector like that that global global cabal, they all have

803
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,119
Jewish names.

804
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,599
Speaker 1: Ian Fleming also were for British intelligence world War two.

805
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,599
I think he were. I can't remember if he was

806
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,360
also in World War One. But I'm pretty sure it

807
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,280
was World War Two. It was one of the wars. Yeah,

808
00:50:56,679 --> 00:51:05,039
don't at me. Other contemporaries seem to have taken the

809
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:08,920
Protocols very seriously as well. The August Times of London

810
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,599
fully endorsed it, before later retracting that position under heavy pressure.

811
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,519
And I've read more than I've read that more copies

812
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:17,679
were published and sold in Europe of that era than

813
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,480
any other book save the Bible. The Bolshevik government of

814
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:24,360
Russia paid the volume its own sort of deep respect,

815
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,920
with mere possession of the Protocols warranting immediate execution.

816
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 2: That's so good.

817
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Based Although the International jew concludes that the Protocols was

818
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:42,360
probably genuine, I doubt that likelihood based upon the style

819
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,840
and presentation. Browsing around on the Internet a dozen years ago,

820
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,960
I discovered quite a variety of different opinions, even within

821
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:52,239
the precincts of the far right, where such matters were

822
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,079
freely discussed. I remember some forum writer somewhere characterizing the

823
00:51:56,119 --> 00:51:59,840
Protocols as based upon a true story, suggesting that someone

824
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,880
who as generally familiar was generally familiar familiar with the

825
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,480
secret of machinations of elite international Jews. Against the existing

826
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:10,599
governments of Zaris, Russia and other countries are drafted the

827
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:13,679
documents to outline his view of their strategic plans, and

828
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:20,559
such an interpretation seems perfectly plausible. Another reader somewhere claimed

829
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:23,639
that the Protocols were pure fiction but very significant. Nonetheless,

830
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,239
he argued that the very keen insights into the methods

831
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,960
by which a small conspiratorial group can quietly corrupt and

832
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:34,519
overthrow powerful existing regimes arguably ranked it alongside Plato's Republic

833
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:37,199
and Machiavelli's To Prince as one of the three great

834
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,400
classics of Western political philosophy, and earned it a place

835
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,079
on the required reading list of every political science one

836
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:43,800
oh one course.

837
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: Check on that guy.

838
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted an earlier life check on that guy quick. Indeed,

839
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,199
the author of the Ford's books emphasizes that there are

840
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,719
very few mentions of Jews anywhere in the Protocols, and

841
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,760
all the implied connections to Jewish conspirators could be completely

842
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,199
struck from the text without affecting their content whatsoever.

843
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,079
Speaker 2: Sure, in any event, I have to get into it,

844
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:07,639
I guess.

845
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,639
Speaker 1: In any event, this short work is now available as

846
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:14,559
one of my HTML books made quite so he Ron's

847
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,079
got it on his website. It's only twenty eight thousand words,

848
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:22,679
so it's only it's four times as long as this article.

849
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, lasting the audiobook of the Subway, but shaking

850
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:30,480
my head, so everyone knows I disagree with it, oh Man.

851
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:35,519
Speaker 1: Some ideas have consequences that others do not. Although my

852
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:40,239
introductory history textbooks have often mentioned Henry Ford's anti Semitic activities,

853
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,719
his production of the International jew and the concurrent popularity

854
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,239
of the Protocols, they never emphasize any lasting political legacy,

855
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,280
or at least I don't recall any. However, once I

856
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,519
actually read the contents, and also discovered the enormous contemporary

857
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:57,360
popularity of those writings and the huge national circulation of

858
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,800
The Dearborn Independent, I quickly came to a very conclusion.

859
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:05,199
For decades, pro immigration liberals, many of them Jewish, have

860
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,199
suggested that anti Semitism was a major factor behind the

861
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,000
nineteen twenty four Immigration Act that drastically reduced European immigration

862
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:16,320
for the next forty years. While anti immigration activists have

863
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:26,559
always heatedly denied this, The documentary evidence from that era

864
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,599
certainly favors the position of the latter, but I really

865
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,000
do wonder what important private discussions may not have been

866
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:36,199
set down in print and entered into the congressional record.

867
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:42,199
The overwhelming popular support for immigration restriction has been successfully

868
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,239
blocked for decades by powerful business interests which greatly benefited

869
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,400
from the reduced wages of the resulting labor competition. But

870
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:52,800
now matters had suddenly changed, and surely the Bolshevik Revolution

871
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,880
in Russia must have must have been a powerful influence.

872
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something like from nineteen eighteen to nineteen ninety one,

873
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,280
it was like two million Jews were able to immigrate

874
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,880
out of the Soviet Union, whereas if one Gentile tried

875
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,639
to get over the wall, get past the Iron Curtain,

876
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,039
they could look forward to twenty years in prison at

877
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:19,559
a minimum.

878
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,679
Speaker 1: Russia, overwhelmingly populated by Russians, had been governed for centuries

879
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,719
by Russian ruling elite, then heavily Jewish. Heavily Jewish revolutionaries

880
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:34,079
drawn from a group of mounting to just four percent

881
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:37,239
of the population, had taken advantage of military defeat and

882
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,280
unsettled political conditions to seize control of the country, butchering

883
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,800
those previous elites or forcing them to desperately flee aboard

884
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:51,000
as penniless abroad as penniless refugees. Trotsky In a large

885
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:53,880
fraction of the leading Jewish revolutionaries had been living as

886
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,360
exiles in New York City, and now many of their

887
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,760
Jewish cousins still resident in America began loudly proclaiming that

888
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,840
it's similar revolution would soon follow here as well. Good

889
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:08,000
luck with the body. Huge waves of recent immigration, mostly

890
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:11,639
from Russia, had increased the Jewish fraction of the national

891
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,880
population to three percent, not far below the figure for

892
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,280
Russia itself on the eve of its revolution. If the

893
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,280
Russian elites who ruled Russia had been suddenly overthrown by

894
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,559
Jewish revolutionaries, as is it not obvious that the Anglo

895
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:29,199
Saxon elites who ruled Anglo Saxon America feared suffering the

896
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,119
same fate.

897
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:39,039
Speaker 2: Yes, and also South Africa. One of the acts that

898
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:44,559
officially implemented apartheid was implemented at the same exact time,

899
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:53,119
an act that basically tramped down communism came out of

900
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:54,360
their parliamentary system.

901
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: The Red Scare of the of the nineteen nineteen was

902
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,559
one response, with numerous immigrant radicals such as Emma Goldman

903
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,480
rounded up and summarily deported, while the Saco Vanzetti murder

904
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:11,280
trial in nineteen twenty one Boston captured the attention of

905
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,840
the nation, suggesting that other immigrant groups were violent radicals

906
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,639
as well and might ally themselves with the Jews in

907
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:20,480
a revolutionary movement, just like the Lets and the other

908
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,920
disgruntled Russian minorities had done during the Bolshevik Revolution.

909
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know much about the Lets. They must be Lithuanian,

910
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:37,960
because I know, like Lithuania had a pretty fond view

911
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:40,320
of Jews throughout their history.

912
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:46,639
Speaker 1: But drastically reducing the inflow of these dangerous foreigners was

913
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:50,079
absolutely essential, since otherwise their numbers might easily grow by

914
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:54,119
hundreds of thousands each year, increasing their already huge presence

915
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:59,639
in our largest cities of the East Coast Sharply reducing

916
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,280
would certainly cause a rise in banker in workers, in

917
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,559
worker wages, and hurt business profits. But consideration of profits

918
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:09,920
or secondary if you fear that you and your family

919
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:12,719
might eventually end up facing a Bolshevik firing squad, or

920
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:15,360
flee into Buenos Aires with just to close on your

921
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,920
back and a few hurried packed suitcases, yeah makes sense.

922
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,639
A noteworthy bit of evidence in support of this analysis

923
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,880
was the subsequent failure of Congress to enact similar restrictive

924
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,000
legislation curtailing immigration from Mexico or the rest of Latin America.

925
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:35,599
The local business interests of Texas in the Southwest argued

926
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:39,559
that continuation of unrestricted Mexican immigration was important for their

927
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:46,119
American economic success, with Mexicans being good people, politely docile worker,

928
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,079
politically docile workers, and no threat to stability of the country.

929
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,159
This was a clear contrast with the Jews and some

930
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,480
other European immigrant groups.

931
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,599
Speaker 2: That's what's funny about right now is I'll take Mexicans

932
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,840
any day over Indians for the same reason. Yeah.

933
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: Someone, you know, there's someone's screaming right now. I don't

934
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,440
want either of them in the I don't want either

935
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,559
of them. Yeah, someone just like had an autistic spur up.

936
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,079
Thanks Aaron with what you did. The much less familiar

937
00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:24,480
early nineteen twenties battle over restricting Jewish enrollment in the

938
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:28,480
Ivy League may have been another consequence. In his Magisterial

939
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:32,760
Too Magisterial two thousand, volume two thousand and five volume

940
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,920
The Chosen, Jerome Carrabel documents how the very rapid growth

941
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,760
of Jewish numbers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and other Ivy

942
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,599
League colleges had by the early nineteen twenties become an

943
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,320
enormous concern to the Anglo Saxon elites which had established

944
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,280
those institutions and always dominated their student bodies. What was it?

945
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:58,519
World War One took out forty percent of the graduating

946
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:01,400
class of Harvard was taken out, and I think over

947
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,000
an England forty percent of the graduating class of Oxford

948
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:05,719
was taken out.

949
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:10,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hm income the replacements YEP.

950
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,239
Speaker 1: As a result of quiet war over admissions broke out,

951
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,519
involving both political and media influence, with the Ranning wasps

952
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:23,159
seeking to reduce and restrict Jewish numbers and the Jews

953
01:00:23,159 --> 01:00:26,800
struggling to maintain or expand them. Although there seems no

954
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,719
paper trail of any direct references to the enormously popular

955
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,920
national newspaper and books published by Henry Ford or any

956
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,880
similar material, it is difficult to believe that the academic

957
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,760
combatants were not at least somewhat aware of the theories

958
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,800
of Jewish assault on gentile society then being so widely promoted,

959
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,880
it is easy to imagine that a respectable Boston Brahman

960
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:52,199
such as Harvard President A. Lawrence Lowell, regarded his own

961
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,719
moderate anti Semitism as a very reasonable middle ground between

962
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:58,760
the lyric claims promoted by Ford and others and the

963
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:05,519
demands for unlimited Jewish enrollment made by his opponents. Indeed,

964
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:09,440
Carabell himself points to the social impact of Ford's publication

965
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,800
as a significant background factor to this academic conflict.

966
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: Thanks Henry the synthesis, well, maybe just a little bit.

967
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:24,519
Speaker 1: At this point in time, the Anglo Saxon elite still

968
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:27,239
held the upper hand in the media. The very heavily

969
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,360
Jewish film industry was only in its infancy, and the

970
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,280
same was true for radio, while the vast majority of

971
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,199
the major print outlets were still in Gentile hands. So

972
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,280
the descendants of America's original settlers won this round of

973
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,679
the admission wars. But when the battle was rejoined a

974
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:46,440
couple of decades later, the strategic, political, and mediate landscape

975
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,800
had completely shifted, with Jews having achieved near parody and

976
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,840
print influence and overwhelming dominance in the more powerful electronic

977
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,440
media formats such as film, radio, and nascent television, and

978
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:01,760
this time they were victorious, easily breaking the whole of

979
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,199
their longtime ethnic rivals, and eventually achieving almost complete dominance

980
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,119
over those elite institutions.

981
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: I want to click on that hyperlink. So bad, almost

982
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:18,199
complete dominance over those elite institutions. Yeah, it's going to

983
01:02:18,199 --> 01:02:18,639
be a graf.

984
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm looking up the quote right now about it was.

985
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:31,000
I believe it was a a priest who said, I'm

986
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:35,000
trying to trying to figure out what I'm trying to

987
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:41,320
give him credit for it. It was just a crazy quote. Yeah,

988
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,320
it was a father Leonard E. Feenie from The Point

989
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,559
magazine in nineteen fifty seven. He said, having a television

990
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:51,199
in your home is like having a Jew in your

991
01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:59,760
living room. And ironically enough, the most lasting cultural legacy

992
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,719
of the widespread anti Jewish agitation in the nineteen twenties

993
01:03:03,039 --> 01:03:06,360
may be the least recognized. As mentioned above, modern readers

994
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,800
might find the text of the protocols rather boring, a blend,

995
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,159
almost like they had been cribbed from the extremely long

996
01:03:11,239 --> 01:03:15,039
winded monologue of one of the diabolical villains of a

997
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:19,159
James Bond story. But it wouldn't surprise me if there

998
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:22,119
were actually an arrow of causality in the opposite direction.

999
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,599
Ian Fleming created this genre in the early nineteen fifties

1000
01:03:25,679 --> 01:03:29,360
with his string of international best sellers, and it is

1001
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:32,320
interesting to speculate about the source of his ideas. Oh Yeah,

1002
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,880
here we go. Fleming had spent his youth during the

1003
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,360
nineteen twenties and thirties, when The Protocols were among the

1004
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,760
most widely read books in much of Europe, and leading

1005
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,840
British newspapers of the highest credibility were recounting the successful

1006
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,480
plots of Shift and other international Jewish bankers to overthrow

1007
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:51,239
the government of Britain's czarist ally and replace it with

1008
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,320
Jewish Bolshevik rule. Moreover, his later service in an arm

1009
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,039
of British intelligence would surely have made him privy to

1010
01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:01,800
details of that history went far beyond those public headlines.

1011
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:04,519
I think it is more than pure coincidence that two

1012
01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:09,079
of his most memorable Bond villains, Goldfinger and Blofeld, had

1013
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:12,320
distinctly Jewish sounding names, and that so many of the

1014
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,840
plots involve schemes of world conquest by Specter, a secretive

1015
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:22,679
and mysterious international organization hostile to all existing governments. The

1016
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,159
Protocols themselves may have been forgotten today, but their cultural

1017
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,840
influence probably survives in the Bond films, whose seven billion

1018
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,159
of aggregate box office gross ranks them as the most

1019
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,800
successful movie series in history when adjusted for inflation.

1020
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: And how poetic would it be if Bond were to

1021
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,360
be replaced by a black guy.

1022
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:52,079
Speaker 1: A Gollum amazing. The extent to which establish historical facts

1023
01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:54,880
can appear or disappear from the world should certainly force

1024
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,920
all of us to become very cautious in believing anything

1025
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,199
we read in our standard textbooks, let alone that we

1026
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,280
let alone what we absorbed from our more transient electronic media.

1027
01:05:05,559 --> 01:05:07,639
In the early years of the Bolshevik Revolution, almost no

1028
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:10,079
one questioned the overwhelming role of Jews in that event,

1029
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:15,400
nor their similar predominance a preponderance in the ultimately unsuccessful

1030
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,920
Bolshevik takeovers in Hungary and parts of Germany. For example,

1031
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:22,760
former British minister Winston Churchill in nineteen twenty denounced the

1032
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,280
terrorist Jews who had seized control of Russia and other

1033
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,000
parts of Europe, noting that the majority of the leading

1034
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:31,519
figures are Jews, and stating that in the Soviet institutions

1035
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:35,960
the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. While lamenting

1036
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,800
the horrors these hoes had inflicted upon the suffering Germans

1037
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:48,320
and Hungarians, and then he basically became their slave. Similarly,

1038
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,079
journalist Robert Wilton, former Russia correspondent at the Times of London,

1039
01:05:52,159 --> 01:05:55,039
provided a very detailed summary of the enormous Jewish role

1040
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,719
in his nineteen eighteen book Russia's Agony and nineteen twenty

1041
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,159
book The Last Days of the Romans, although one of

1042
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:05,039
the most explicit chapters of the latter was apparently excluded

1043
01:06:05,079 --> 01:06:12,719
from the English language edition. Yep, I'm wondering if that's uh, I.

1044
01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:15,079
Speaker 2: Don't know, so I get an early life check on

1045
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:15,679
the publisher.

1046
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's the I'm wondering if that's the

1047
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,960
chapter that there are some that say, I know, doctor

1048
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,239
Matthew Rafael Johnson says to Romanos were not only executed,

1049
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,360
but they were all raped too.

1050
01:06:32,039 --> 01:06:33,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that too.

1051
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:39,239
Speaker 1: Not long afterward, the facts regarding the enormous financial support

1052
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,400
provided by the Bolshevik to the Bolsheviks by international Jewish

1053
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,880
bankers such as Schiff and Oschburg were widely reported in

1054
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:46,880
the mainstream media.

1055
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,599
Speaker 2: Jews and Communists, what during collective is just just so

1056
01:06:52,719 --> 01:06:56,039
that like everybody knows how brutal it was, and it

1057
01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:59,320
wouldn't at all be surprising if they were rape before

1058
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:04,920
they were executed. When Lenin was presiding over the collectivisation

1059
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:11,440
of all the peasant farms, anybody who resisted, one of

1060
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,719
the ways they tortured them was to cut out their

1061
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,519
small intestines, tie them to a tree and make them

1062
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:20,119
walk around it like while they slapped them until they

1063
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,239
basically rent out.

1064
01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:30,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jews and Communism were just as strongly tied together

1065
01:07:30,719 --> 01:07:34,119
in America, and for years the largest circulation communist newspaper

1066
01:07:34,199 --> 01:07:40,239
in our country was published in Yiddish. When they were

1067
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,599
finally released, the Venona Decrypts demonstrated that even as late

1068
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:47,480
as nineteen thirties and nineteen forties, or remarkable fraction of

1069
01:07:47,519 --> 01:07:53,679
America's communist spies came from that ethnic background. That's a

1070
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,000
personal anecdote tends to confirm these dry historical records. During

1071
01:07:58,039 --> 01:07:59,880
the early two thousands, I once had lunch with an

1072
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,800
elderly and very eminent computer scientists with whom I became

1073
01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:06,840
a little friendly while talking about this and that, we

1074
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,239
happened to mention that both He happened to mention that

1075
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,400
both his parents had been Zell's Communists, and given his

1076
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:16,079
obvious Irish name. I expressed my surprise, saying that I'd

1077
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:19,359
thought that all Communists of that era were Jewish. He

1078
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,600
said that was indeed the case, but although his mother

1079
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,520
had such an ethnic background, his father did not, which

1080
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,399
made him a very rare exception in their political circles.

1081
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,800
As a consequence, the Party had always sought to place

1082
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:35,039
him in a prominent, as prominent a public role as possible,

1083
01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:37,920
just to prove that not all Communists were Jews. And

1084
01:08:38,039 --> 01:08:41,600
although he obeyed party discipline, he was always irritated at

1085
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,119
being used as such a token.

1086
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the IRA became Marxist after a while. Sometime,

1087
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:54,920
I think in the nineteen sixties they were officially Marxist,

1088
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,880
you know, less less Catholic, more Marxist. It became like

1089
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:03,399
gay anti colonialism justification.

1090
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: However, once Communism sharply fell out of favor in the

1091
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,880
nineteen fifties America, nearly all the leading Red baiters, such

1092
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,880
as Senator Joseph McCarthy, went to enormous lengths to obscure

1093
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,800
the ethnic dimension of the movement they were combating. Indeed,

1094
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,560
many years later, Richard Nixon casually spoke in private of

1095
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,039
the difficulty he and other anti communist investigators had faced

1096
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:28,199
in trying to focus on gentile targets, since nearly all

1097
01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:31,479
the suspected Soviet spies were Jewish, and when this tape

1098
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,439
became public, his alleged anti Semitism provoked a media firestorm,

1099
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,000
even though his remarks were obviously implying the exact opposite.

1100
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he'd have to look at like your

1101
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,319
only other option is like Ira and should fain operatives

1102
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:46,279
in the US.

1103
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: The last point is an important one, since once the

1104
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,640
historical record had been sufficiently whitewashed or rewritten, any lingering

1105
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,920
strands of the original reality that survive are often perceived

1106
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:04,520
as bizarre delusions or denounces conspiracy theories. Indeed, even today,

1107
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,760
the ever amusing pages of Wikipedia provide an entire thirty

1108
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,920
five hundred word article attacking the notion of Jewish Bolshevism

1109
01:10:12,039 --> 01:10:16,880
as an anti Semitic canard. I remember in the nineteen seventies,

1110
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,279
the enormous gusts of American praise for Socialisians three volume

1111
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:25,159
Gulog Archipelago suddenly encountered a temporary headwind when someone noticed

1112
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,760
that his two thousand pages had included a single photocopy

1113
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,319
depicting many of the leading Gulag administrators, along with a

1114
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:35,439
caption revealing their unmistakably Jewish names.

1115
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: He got one by.

1116
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: This detail was treated as serious evidence of the great

1117
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,159
author's possible anti Semitism, since the actual reality of the

1118
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:48,800
enormously large role of the Jews at the NKVD and

1119
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,960
the Gulag system had long since disappeared from all the

1120
01:10:52,039 --> 01:10:57,159
standard history books. Well, he just put a nail in

1121
01:10:57,239 --> 01:11:01,520
that coffin later on when he wrote another book.

1122
01:11:02,119 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't disappear from David Duke's books.

1123
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,239
Speaker 1: As another example, the Reverend Pat Robertson, e leading Christian televangelist,

1124
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:16,680
published The New World Order in nineteen ninety one, his

1125
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,880
fiery attack on the godless globalists, whom he considered his

1126
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,000
greatest enemy, and it quickly became a massive national bestseller.

1127
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,239
He happened to include a couple of brief, somewhat garbled

1128
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:28,960
mentions of the twenty million which the Wall Street banker

1129
01:11:29,079 --> 01:11:31,920
Jacob Shiff had provided to the Communists, carefully avoiding any

1130
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,960
suggestion of a Jewish angle and providing no reference for

1131
01:11:35,079 --> 01:11:38,239
that claim. His book quickly provoked the vast outpouring of

1132
01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:41,640
denunciation of rid Huel across the hillype media, with the

1133
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,239
Shift story seen as conclusive proof of his delusional anti Semitism.

1134
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: Wasn't he a Zionist?

1135
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:55,359
Speaker 1: Well, I think that. I think you saw this in

1136
01:11:55,439 --> 01:12:00,560
Billy Graham. Billy Graham was perfectly fine with zion Jews,

1137
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:04,199
but he had a real problem with communist Jews. Yeah,

1138
01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:08,960
and I think that was I think that became pretty

1139
01:12:09,039 --> 01:12:12,319
much a default of a lot of people in power

1140
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:18,439
and influence, gentiles and power and influence after World War Two. Yeah,

1141
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,439
saw it. They saw it as a way where they

1142
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:27,359
could still they could still criticize the Jews, but they're

1143
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,479
just calling them communists at that point.

1144
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're still getting called anti Semitic no matter what.

1145
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, So well, I cannot really fault these

1146
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:41,079
critics since in pre internet days they could only consult

1147
01:12:41,119 --> 01:12:44,199
the indexes of a few standard histories of the Bullshek Revolution,

1148
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,359
and finding no mention of Shift for his money, naturally

1149
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:50,159
assumed that Robertson or his source had simply invented the

1150
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:53,600
bizarre story. I myself had exactly the same reaction at

1151
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,720
the time, only after Soviet Communism had died in nineteen

1152
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,920
ninety one and no longer was perceived as a hot

1153
01:13:00,119 --> 01:13:03,560
the force where academic scholars in America once again able

1154
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,479
to publish mainstream books that gradually restored the true picture

1155
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,520
of the past era in many respects of widely praised

1156
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,560
works such as The Jewish Century by Yuri Sleskin, published

1157
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,560
in two thousand and four by Princeton University Press, provides

1158
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,800
a narrative quite consistent with long forgotten works by Robert Wilton,

1159
01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:27,119
but makes a very sharp departure from the largely obfuscatory

1160
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:32,960
histories of the intervening eighty odd years. Until about a

1161
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,800
dozen years ago, I had always vaguely assumed that Henry

1162
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,560
Fords The International jew was a work of political lunacy

1163
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,199
and the Protocols was a notorious hoax. Yet today I

1164
01:13:42,239 --> 01:13:46,079
would probably consider the former as a potentially useful source

1165
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:50,800
of possible historical events otherwise excluded from most standard accounts,

1166
01:13:51,199 --> 01:13:53,720
while at least understanding the argument of why the latter

1167
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,079
might deserve a place alongside Plato and Machiavelli as a

1168
01:13:57,159 --> 01:13:59,720
classic of Western political thought.

1169
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 2: No less than five hundred pounds whoever wrote that.

1170
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: And we're and we're done.

1171
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,399
Speaker 2: Then see where can I learn more about the Jewish century?

1172
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: That's that's Leskian book. Will Well, we'll knock you out.

1173
01:14:18,039 --> 01:14:23,760
It's it's pretty wild. It's the first Soviet international bank,

1174
01:14:24,199 --> 01:14:28,600
which was the link that you wanted to do. Almost

1175
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,279
complete dominance over those lead institutions was apparently excluded from

1176
01:14:32,279 --> 01:14:36,239
the English Land. Largest circulation communist newspaper in our country

1177
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:42,159
was published in Yiddish. That's an interesting one.

1178
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,119
Speaker 2: The hero and Savior of Britain, Winston Churchill, wrote a

1179
01:14:47,159 --> 01:14:50,840
really good article about it in nineteen twenty.

1180
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:56,159
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, that was his book. That was his book

1181
01:14:56,319 --> 01:15:02,399
on Bolshevi, his mar Zionism, I mean, his his article

1182
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,640
Bolshevism or Zionism, where he just basically said, you know,

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:10,880
we must encourage Bolshevism, I mean Zionism because Bolshevism is

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so dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as if they can't exist together.

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01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well yeah, And you know a lot of people

1187
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,479
will point to point to the fact that, oh, look,

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,840
you know he was writing about the Jews in nineteen twenty,

1189
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,800
Why did he If he was writing about the Jews

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01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,479
and warning about the Jews in nineteen twenty, why is

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01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,840
he you know, why why is he listening to them?

1192
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,079
Why is he? Why do you say that he was

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under their control in the nineteen thirties, It's like, well,

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,760
I mean he was under the control of.

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01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: The Jews that he you know, sold a lot of

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01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:44,960
money to.

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01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, owed a lot of money too. But it also

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just so happens that they're Zionist Jews.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, it's it's it's insane how we basically

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01:15:59,359 --> 01:16:02,560
had eight eighty some odd years or even one hundred

1201
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,960
some odd years of just a complete blind spot. Like

1202
01:16:07,079 --> 01:16:09,319
you can see the names, you can see the places,

1203
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:13,079
you can see the actions, but you never, like I

1204
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:18,520
never had the wherewithal to associate it with that particular

1205
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,199
ethnicity or religion.

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01:16:22,199 --> 01:16:25,520
Speaker 1: Well, the something that you mentioned before we started recording,

1207
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,800
you said that you had discovered a cheat.

1208
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:37,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So whenever you're doing any research into any

1209
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,399
Soviet government officials and positions of high power, if you

1210
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,520
come across an obstacle where you know, the early life

1211
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:51,319
check doesn't say what what they clearly are, just look

1212
01:16:51,319 --> 01:16:53,680
at where they're from or where their parents are from,

1213
01:16:54,159 --> 01:16:56,000
and then just see if that place is in the

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01:16:56,079 --> 01:16:56,760
pale settlement.

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Speaker 1: Easy pasy right and.

1216
01:17:01,239 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 2: One hundred percent of the time it is like I

1217
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:12,239
I was wondering who was responsible for minimize my windows

1218
01:17:12,279 --> 01:17:15,760
and get my tabs up, who was responsible for allowing

1219
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:20,279
people to emigrate out of the Soviet Union, and why

1220
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:30,359
that emigration was chiefly Jewish. And during the nineteenth during

1221
01:17:30,399 --> 01:17:35,640
the nineteen fifties, there were two people besides Stalin that

1222
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,359
were that were chiefly in charge of that, and that

1223
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:46,239
was Mikile seuss Love and Boris Ponamarev. And if you

1224
01:17:46,319 --> 01:17:50,239
were to early life check either of these people. They

1225
01:17:50,279 --> 01:17:53,840
were in the International Department of the Central Committee of

1226
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,800
the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. So they looked

1227
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:01,479
at other Communists, other Communist movement outside of Russia and

1228
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:06,800
basically sent them men in materiel for funding. And that's

1229
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,760
where that's basically where you get the millions of Jews

1230
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,199
that were able to leave the Soviet Union. It was

1231
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:18,000
for that these people made that decision. And uh, when

1232
01:18:18,039 --> 01:18:21,039
you look at their Wikipedia, it doesn't it doesn't tell

1233
01:18:21,079 --> 01:18:23,520
you that they're Jewish, but it tells you that you

1234
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:28,560
know their parents are from I'll give you one Zara

1235
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,520
esque in the which is in the Pale settlement for

1236
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:46,720
Boris Panamarav and whereas it the other guy was shakov Skoya,

1237
01:18:48,359 --> 01:18:51,039
which is where SEUs Love was born, and that's also

1238
01:18:51,079 --> 01:18:53,520
in the Pale settlement. So you know you can put

1239
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:54,279
two and two together.

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01:18:55,279 --> 01:19:01,199
Speaker 1: H Yeah, rather interesting. It's nice to have someone like

1241
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,479
mister UN's out there writing about this stuff considering the

1242
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,039
yeah that's his background.

1243
01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:13,279
Speaker 2: And writing about it in a accessible but still very

1244
01:19:13,399 --> 01:19:16,800
much intellectual way. Like that's not a that's not a

1245
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,000
substack piece by some schitzo. Like he's he's a pretty

1246
01:19:21,079 --> 01:19:21,680
learned guy.

1247
01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:27,159
Speaker 1: I think the article he put out I get his

1248
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,920
emails of. He has a weekly article, and his article

1249
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:35,000
this week with seventeen thousand words. I was just like,

1250
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,840
I mean, he's doing this on a weekly basis. Yeah,

1251
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,960
it's a great it's a great service he does. And

1252
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,319
he posts so much stuff on there. He allows so

1253
01:19:46,399 --> 01:19:50,279
many people to post on the website. And he documents

1254
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:56,399
Father Kaflin's old social justice magazine. There's copies on their

1255
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,000
digital copies. He has digital copies of the the Rothbard

1256
01:20:01,119 --> 01:20:04,720
Rockwell Report. That's probably the best, uh best place to

1257
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:10,840
find those. I mean, he's there's the site looks insane

1258
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,279
and it looks like it's probably like something from like

1259
01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:17,239
nineteen ninety five. Once you learn how, once you learn

1260
01:20:17,279 --> 01:20:20,079
how to navigate it properly, you you could be on

1261
01:20:20,199 --> 01:20:21,760
there for years. You can be on there for the

1262
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:23,359
rest of your life and not read everything.

1263
01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, now that is that is awesome that there

1264
01:20:27,359 --> 01:20:30,439
are still people that do that. I mean, that's kind

1265
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:31,680
of what the Internet was made for.

1266
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:38,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get out of here. What do

1267
01:20:38,079 --> 01:20:39,359
you what do you els promote?

1268
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for having me again, and uh,

1269
01:20:43,239 --> 01:20:48,800
you can find me on x at BTWA Underscore returns

1270
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,640
and you can find me every single Wednesday on the

1271
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,439
Timeline Earth podcast where I deliver you the news.

1272
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I do like it when you're there for

1273
01:21:01,279 --> 01:21:01,680
the news.

1274
01:21:02,039 --> 01:21:02,159
Speaker 2: Uh.

1275
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:03,199
Speaker 1: It adds a.

1276
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,279
Speaker 2: Certain tension, sexual tension.

1277
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,520
Speaker 1: Maybe a little more weight to it too. And I'm

1278
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:12,640
not talking about body weight.

1279
01:21:13,399 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: Oh I gotta work on that too. But yeah, so

1280
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,760
I will not be on this week's episode unfortunately, h

1281
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,199
Bird went behind all of our backs and yes, something

1282
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:24,880
else planned.

1283
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 1: Do you have Jay Burden on again? I think is

1284
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,960
becoming a guest. Like I mean, it's like, you know

1285
01:21:31,039 --> 01:21:34,039
how the joke about you coming on my show. Yeah,

1286
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,520
it's definitely going back in that direction with mister.

1287
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 2: It's coming full circle. I'm eating, reaping what I've sown.

1288
01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:43,960
But uh, luckily it's Jay and he is a very

1289
01:21:44,079 --> 01:21:48,239
nice boy, very smart, and he's going places, which is

1290
01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:50,159
more than I can say for a lot of other people.

1291
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, what's his background? Never mind? All right, man,

1292
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,399
we get that here. Thank you, thanks for

1293
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: Having me, man,