Speaker 1: And nine Ignition.
Speaker 2: Five four three two one zero, All engine running.
Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Speaker 3: Ignition with the aw fat Hub podcast team. We just
Speaker 3: watched on Sunday night, AW Dynasty from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. We'll
Speaker 3: be sharing some thoughts about that and some other things.
Speaker 3: But let's get right down to it. I'm here with
Speaker 3: Net and Sutton and MK. This is Kelson. Welcome to
Speaker 3: the show. Here we go. You know what, guys, I
Speaker 3: just wanted to ask you right off what we were
Speaker 3: We're getting into too many specifics, I guess, uh, let's
Speaker 3: just get into to AW Dynasty. What were your overall
Speaker 3: thoughts about the show? And maybe here with this, what
Speaker 3: matches do you think delivered and which may be under delivered?
Speaker 2: I thought it was an okay pay per view, wasn't
Speaker 2: the greatest opening match was amazing, The trios match with
Speaker 2: Kenny and Ricochet, and uh Speedball was pretty good. Other
Speaker 2: than that, I really really wasn't impressed with all the
Speaker 2: other matches. Especially the one that was the most disappointing
Speaker 2: for me was the way they ended the women's title match.
Speaker 2: That just that just it was a great match with
Speaker 2: the dumbest ending of a match you could have.
Speaker 3: Well, why did you think it was done? Because I
Speaker 3: actually agree with you on that. I mean it was
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 2: It was a freaking run up if she was gonna
Speaker 2: beat I mean, you built this part. You built uh
Speaker 2: Megan Bain up to be this giant killer. She's just
Speaker 2: a killing machine. She's beating everybody down and she loses
Speaker 2: on a roll up. It made no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3: I did to have a problem with it ending in
Speaker 3: a roll up. But what I did have a problem
Speaker 3: with is that Megan Bain beat the holy crap out
Speaker 3: of Tony's Storm. The entire match, Tony Storm had little
Speaker 3: snippets of offense, but for the most part, Megan Bain
Speaker 3: beat the crap out of her. And don't forget just
Speaker 3: before the surprise roll up, Tony Storm hit Meghan Bain
Speaker 3: with three hip attacks, three of them and the Storm
Speaker 3: zero and Meghan Bain kicked out at one and then
Speaker 3: she got picked by a surprise roll up. And the
Speaker 3: thing that immediately went through my mind was who booked
Speaker 3: this match? Orange Cassidy.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say the same thing, the same thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I did. I didn't have a
Speaker 3: problem with her winning with Tony Storm winning by the
Speaker 3: surprise roll up. I did like the timing of it,
Speaker 3: right after the three hip attacks and the Storm zero
Speaker 3: and to kick out at one that that just didn't
Speaker 3: make any sense, especially against somebody as big as powerful
Speaker 3: as Megan Bane. So that let's let's go to you. Who,
Speaker 3: what did you? What were what were your overall thoughts
Speaker 3: of Dynasty and what match delivered to you? And more
Speaker 3: matches and what matches under delivered if any.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see. I really liked the Osprey Kevin Knight match.
Speaker 1: Good all around. I like seeing them together. I like
Speaker 1: their dynamic. I liked the three way match with Kenny
Speaker 1: Weedball and Ricochet. There were some moments there where they
Speaker 1: were really selling those moves. But I'm getting a little
Speaker 1: tired of the match interference in general from people, and
Speaker 1: I am definitely tired of running out and doing things
Speaker 1: when you're not involved in the match at all. I
Speaker 1: don't like the way they ended things with Swerve. I
Speaker 1: thought that was not the time, not the place, And
Speaker 1: the women's match, I felt like Megan Bain should have
Speaker 1: won that one. I liked Mercedes Monnett's performance. I feel
Speaker 1: that she's really good. She's grown on me a lot,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 3: I think Mercedes has grown out a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Let's face it, that was one of the best matches
Speaker 3: as far as the way Julia Hart looked in the ring.
Speaker 3: That was one of her best matches. And you could
Speaker 3: say that about other people. The Mercedes brings out the best.
Speaker 3: It just about everybody. If Britt Baker didn't exist, I'd
Speaker 3: have to give her even more props. But that the
Speaker 3: breaker match was god awful. But you know, but I mean,
Speaker 3: you got to give her props. That's the way I
Speaker 3: feel about it, you know. Yeah, So what about you, MK?
Speaker 3: What did you think about the show overall? And what
Speaker 3: match do you think delivered or matches and which matches
Speaker 3: or match, if any, under delivered for you.
Speaker 5: I followed through through social media all night. I don't
Speaker 5: I'm not wasting my money on pay per views that
Speaker 5: end with the crap that it ended with. I'm just
Speaker 5: tired of the death death writer saying, I'll talk about
Speaker 5: that a little bit later, but it's just it's bad
Speaker 5: to me. And they kind of poured salt onto the
Speaker 5: wound with with with bring the young Bucks back into it.
Speaker 6: I'm so tired of that.
Speaker 5: That elite group as well. I love the hiatus and
Speaker 5: there on it. I'm just I'm just done with the
Speaker 5: main events scene totally.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, we'll talk about we'll, we'll we'll talk
Speaker 3: about the elephant in the room, pretty sure. Let me
Speaker 3: give you my opinions overall, I thought I kind of
Speaker 3: I kind of got to agree with Sutton with what
Speaker 3: he said. It was an okay pay per view. There
Speaker 3: was nothing bad about it, well except for the elephant
Speaker 3: in the room. But one of the interesting things that
Speaker 3: it got to be the main event time and I
Speaker 3: was like, wait a minute. I thought we were supposed
Speaker 3: to see Kyle Fletcher and Mark Briscoe have a match,
Speaker 3: and apparently they had the match. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if I had, you know, was abducted by aliens or what.
Speaker 3: I completely missed the match. I have no idea. I
Speaker 3: had no idea they even had a match. I had
Speaker 3: to go back the next day and watch it. It
Speaker 3: was the dumbest thing ever. But I did think that
Speaker 3: that the matches were good. I don't think I think
Speaker 3: one of the things that maybe some people it felt
Speaker 3: about this pay per view is that there were really
Speaker 3: no Match of the Year contenders in this pay per view.
Speaker 3: I mean, there were great matches, but there was nothing
Speaker 3: like Wow. I didn't feel that way. And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say this to you, and I'm sure this is gonna
Speaker 3: be an unpopular opinion. You know, I don't like multiman matches.
Speaker 3: I did think that the three way match between Kenny Omega,
Speaker 3: Ricochet and Mike Bailey was really good up until it wasn't.
Speaker 3: I thought it lasted about ten minutes too long. For
Speaker 3: some reason. I thought that, and if you look at it,
Speaker 3: the pay per view went long, and it just seems
Speaker 3: that that was the reason why. I for some reason,
Speaker 3: I just felt that that match went too long. It
Speaker 3: kind of sucked the enjoyment out of it for me.
Speaker 3: That's that's all I wanted to say. I don't think
Speaker 3: there was any really bad matches, and there were some
Speaker 3: good moments. You know. I do have to give Adam
Speaker 3: Cole his props. He looks good, he wrestled good, and
Speaker 3: and I don't know about you guys, but I agree
Speaker 3: with the decision to put the belt on Adam Cole
Speaker 3: because Daniel Garcia is a great wrestler. I just don't
Speaker 3: think he's got that charisma or something is going on
Speaker 3: where he's just not belt material. I don't know how
Speaker 3: to I don't know how to explain it or what
Speaker 3: to say about it. It's just for some I think
Speaker 3: he's good enough to have a title. I don't think
Speaker 3: Tony Kahn or somebody in aw doesn't believe it. And
Speaker 3: Daniel Garcia, I just get that impression. I don't know
Speaker 3: how you guys feel about it.
Speaker 2: I think it's Daniel himself that doesn't believe he's changed too.
Speaker 2: He's changed too. He is too much. He's not settled
Speaker 2: on what he he wants to be or who he
Speaker 2: wants to be. One minute he's siding with two point zero,
Speaker 2: the next time he's kind of like siding with Colon Company,
Speaker 2: and then there'll be somebody else that he'll be with.
Speaker 2: And I don't think he's picked who he wants to be.
Speaker 2: And until he picks who he wants to be and
Speaker 2: goes with that, he's always going to have that. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe I'm okay, maybe I'm not.
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, look let's talk about the elephant in the room.
Speaker 3: The main event, Sweer Strickland and John Moxley. I'm interested
Speaker 3: in hearing your thoughts. Did you guys enjoy it? Do
Speaker 3: you think it is further the story? Did it get
Speaker 3: you excited about what's next with the Young Bucks coming out?
Speaker 3: More importantly, did it get you excited about the ae
Speaker 3: W World Championship?
Speaker 2: Y Young conclusion made absolutely no sense whatsoever. They they
Speaker 2: they that should have never happened. They they're not involved
Speaker 2: in that, they haven't been involved in that, they didn't
Speaker 2: want to be involved in that, disappear for six months,
Speaker 2: come back, and then all of a sudden they're getting
Speaker 2: involved for what no reason. I thought it was a
Speaker 2: decent match. I thought it was going to be, you know,
Speaker 2: when it looked like Sword was gonna win, everybody was
Speaker 2: going crazy, and then Tony does what Tony does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Young Bucks are involved in that. They
Speaker 1: are somehow involved in that. If I remember, in particular,
Speaker 1: before they left and when Moxley was I think he
Speaker 1: was like in the hallway backstage, he and a couple
Speaker 1: of the other Death writers were intimidating somebody or other
Speaker 1: and do and they walked past the Young Bucks and
Speaker 1: we're like gentlemen and just kept going and they they
Speaker 1: did something else where. They told Swerve before that he
Speaker 1: would see them again. I don't quite remember, but they
Speaker 1: are involved in it, but it's kind of convoluted. And
Speaker 1: one thing that I thought of, because I see online
Speaker 1: a lot of people are asking about where the belt is?
Speaker 1: Where the belt is? I thought that with that stupid
Speaker 1: briefcase that I am really tired of seeing. Remember before
Speaker 1: the Young Bucks left and they were shredding papers, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that there's some kind of contract or some
Speaker 1: kind of agreement between Moxley and the Young Bucks in
Speaker 1: that briefcase that they'll help him or they'll back him up,
Speaker 1: no matter what. There's something going on between the three.
Speaker 3: We'll ask you this, say it that there is a
Speaker 3: contractor and in agreement between the Young Bucks at John Moxley.
Speaker 3: Do you care.
Speaker 1: For them? No? But I care if they can somehow
Speaker 1: manage to bring Hangman into it and perhaps parlay this
Speaker 1: into Hangman and Swerve becoming a tag team.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what it's going to be. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: hang Man a Swerve versus the Young Bucks. That's what
Speaker 2: they're setting up. That's the whole thing. That's the whole
Speaker 2: reason they did it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: The only thing, Yeah, there.
Speaker 2: Was absolutely Like I said, they left because they lost
Speaker 2: the titles and they didn't want anything to do with
Speaker 2: anything that was going on, and they were running scared.
Speaker 2: Because that's what it appeared to me anyway, is that
Speaker 2: that was why they were leaving. And they disappeared and
Speaker 2: then they come back out of the blue. And you know,
Speaker 2: even during the media scrum afterwards, they were asking Tony
Speaker 2: what the hell he was doing, and he gave his
Speaker 2: normal Tony can answer, well, I think it was good,
Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, he usually says, and
Speaker 2: it just didn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, let's give out k a chance
Speaker 3: to get his opinion in.
Speaker 6: Listen.
Speaker 5: I I've never been a fan of the elite. I'm
Speaker 5: I understand why they're in this. I think this is
Speaker 5: gonna lead to yet again another aw civil war type
Speaker 5: of thing. It's gonna be hangman Swerve uh. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you've seen the Instagram post, but Swerve met
Speaker 5: up with MVP, so maybe they could be thrown into
Speaker 5: the works. I don't know, but I knew that Marx
Speaker 5: was gonna win when the trios championship did not change.
Speaker 5: Nothing's gonna happen until you break that down. And I'm
Speaker 5: just I'm to the point where I'm tired of seeing
Speaker 5: John Moxley any kind the Death Writers in the main event.
Speaker 6: I turn it off. I'm just tired of it.
Speaker 5: I think Osbrey's going to be the one to win it,
Speaker 5: and he deserves it, but he's gonna have an uphill battle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, the Death Writers saga essentially began
Speaker 3: last year on September seventh. I believe it was. I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure it was September seventh, twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 3: all out. That's when Brian Danielson defeated Jack Perry and
Speaker 3: then he was betrayed by what is now the Death Writers.
Speaker 3: That's when they put the bag over, the plastic bag
Speaker 3: over his head and tried to murder him. Look for
Speaker 3: the decks two or three weeks. The Death Writers are
Speaker 3: kind of interesting because it was like, Okay, it was
Speaker 3: a tempted murder, tempted murder, kidnapping, extortion, all they were
Speaker 3: doing every they were breaking the law every show, and
Speaker 3: then it just got stupid. It just got stupid and
Speaker 3: it got boring and it never went anywhere, and it
Speaker 3: didn't make any sense. It really didn't, and it just
Speaker 3: kept going back and forth, doing the same thing, rinse, repeat,
Speaker 3: every week for months. And then of course we haven't
Speaker 3: seen the AW World Championship belt. I know we haven't
Speaker 3: seen it this year. I don't remember exactly when the
Speaker 3: briefcase came into play, but I think it was pretty
Speaker 3: close after Moxley won the championship. Look, I've said it,
Speaker 3: and I mean it, and this is what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say it again. I honestly believe of the eight ae
Speaker 3: W titles, the AW World Championship is eighth. It is
Speaker 3: the most insignificant title in AW. Right now, I would
Speaker 3: furthermore say that I will even go as now. I
Speaker 3: don't watch WW, but I find it hard to believe
Speaker 3: that WWE has a worse title than the AW World Championship,
Speaker 3: and other than maybe the whole Vince Russo and David
Speaker 3: Arquette thinking WCW, I don't think WCW had a worse
Speaker 3: title than the AW World Championship. Right now, it's a
Speaker 3: meaningless title, it's an unseen belt. There is no reason why,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, for me to get excited about any match,
Speaker 3: any story. The Young Bucks are there, fine, okay, good, hey,
Speaker 3: look it's the Young Bucks. I don't care because it's
Speaker 3: got to do with this whole You know, if the
Speaker 3: Young Bucks that come out and I don't know, gone
Speaker 3: after Sir Pentaco, I would have been more fired up
Speaker 3: about the Young Bucks than this. You know. It's just
Speaker 3: one of those things where I, for the most part
Speaker 3: in the last few months, when the death writers and
Speaker 3: the whole World Championship thing comes about, I just turned
Speaker 3: off the TV. Now part of the whole swere Strickland
Speaker 3: thing made me somewhat believe that maybe something would happen,
Speaker 3: and guess what, nothing happened. It was the same thing
Speaker 3: over and over again. And I'm sorry, but I just
Speaker 3: I cannot watch a pay per view anymore. I'm telling
Speaker 3: you right now, Double or Nothing is coming. I'm not
Speaker 3: buying it. I am not buying Double or Nothing because
Speaker 3: I am just so sick and tired of this. And look,
Speaker 3: everybody's saying, and I mean everybody is saying, with with
Speaker 3: very few exceptions, that it's gonna all come down to
Speaker 3: all in in July. That's too damn far away. That's
Speaker 3: too far away. That's ten months since the whole all
Speaker 3: out Brian Danielson thing. More than ten months. I don't
Speaker 3: want to see it. I don't want to wait that long.
Speaker 3: Get it done, put it on YouTube, have a match,
Speaker 3: get it done. Just whatever you're gonna do, do it now,
Speaker 3: don't wait. I would settle for any wrestler in the
Speaker 3: back to take that title and take it out of
Speaker 3: a briefcase and put it over their shoulders, even if
Speaker 3: they hold it for three days. If somebody wins it
Speaker 3: on dynamite and loses it on collision, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: Just get it done. It's an embarrassment. I'm embarrassed to
Speaker 3: talk about it. It's I don't want to be negative
Speaker 3: about aw but I'm not gonna lie to people. That's
Speaker 3: just the thing, you know what I mean. It's I
Speaker 3: can't lie and say that I like something that I
Speaker 3: don't and I have it for a long time because
Speaker 3: it's bad. It's really bad.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're, oh, go ahead, k.
Speaker 3: No, that was me, And if somebody, if anybody, has
Speaker 3: anything to say about what I just said.
Speaker 1: It almost seems like they're trying a lot of different
Speaker 1: things to see what fits they try bringing Willow out
Speaker 1: to beat up Shafir and now they've tried you know,
Speaker 1: hang man a little bit here and there. They've tried
Speaker 1: to make DA a really big deal and now the
Speaker 1: Young Bucks are back. You know, it's like they're trying
Speaker 1: to see what works and what the fans can get behind,
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna go with that story there. There
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be a lot of direction with it.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to be defending the Trios Championships instead of
Speaker 1: you know, running around in the dark, coming out in
Speaker 1: the crowd all the time. There's plenty of other stuff
Speaker 1: for other people and the death writers to do. Marina
Speaker 1: Shafir can be wrestling in the women's division. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. It's like they've lost their
Speaker 1: sense of direction with this and don't know where they're
Speaker 1: going to go with it next.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what the Young Bucks coming back? I mean
Speaker 3: there is a of course, there's that hole. Is Okata
Speaker 3: going to be with them? Still? Is Jack Perry coming back?
Speaker 3: A lot of people have been talking about Jack Perry
Speaker 3: coming back, But you know what, I want to see
Speaker 3: Jack Perry. I want to see the Young Bucks. But
Speaker 3: if it's if it's in this aw World Championship Death
Speaker 3: Writers storyline. No, you've mentioned a couple of You have
Speaker 3: mentioned Hagman, Adam Page, and Swore Strickland. Do I want
Speaker 3: to see them? Yes, if it's in this storyline, No,
Speaker 3: I don't. I didn't want to see story for swear
Speaker 3: Strickland in this storyline to begin with, because it's below him,
Speaker 3: It's below everybody in the in the locker room. This
Speaker 3: story is the worst story main story I have ever
Speaker 3: seen in wrestling, bar none.
Speaker 2: Swerve. The Swerve and Hangman thing is not gonna have
Speaker 2: anything to do with it. Now, that's gonna be. They're
Speaker 2: gonna go after the Bucks and that's gonna be a
Speaker 2: new story that's got nothing to do with the Death Riders,
Speaker 2: just like the Death Writers will lose the Trios Championship
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be the Ops. Almost guaranteed, that's what
Speaker 2: the Ops are gonna do. They're gonna go after those
Speaker 2: trios titles and possibly double or nothing. They're gonna win them.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would rather. I'm just the Ops don't work.
Speaker 5: For me, brother, No, they don't. I don't think Cook
Speaker 5: needs a title yet. I don't know who it will be,
Speaker 5: who'll beat him, but it needs to be somebody quick.
Speaker 6: I'd rather it be a.
Speaker 5: Cage and them, uh the Calvil's family taking it or
Speaker 5: someone I'm just My huge problem with the death writers
Speaker 5: is I don't have anybody. The only person I have
Speaker 5: interesting it in is Pac and he should be doing more.
Speaker 5: Pak is the most entertaining person. He can do a
Speaker 5: lot more moves. I don't find mox entertaining anymore. I
Speaker 5: darn sure don't find Marina Shafir. I earn her the
Speaker 5: worst of the bunch. You just okay, he does his job,
Speaker 5: but Shafir has no business out there. I don't know
Speaker 5: why Moxley is backing her. I don't know what episode
Speaker 5: it was on, but she was trying to put put
Speaker 5: Willow to a table and end up being Willow putting
Speaker 5: herself to a table. It looked like to me, maybe
Speaker 5: because of the way it looked. I don't know, but
Speaker 5: she's terrible. It's just something that I don't I don't
Speaker 5: want to watch, and I don't if you're gonna have
Speaker 5: a pay per view, if sir, if you're gonna have
Speaker 5: a stable, you're gonna have cool people in there, like
Speaker 5: nWo who they keep on getting compared to they had
Speaker 5: cool people in there who you wanted to watch. I
Speaker 5: don't want to watch anybody in the Death Writers anymore.
Speaker 5: I want this over. I wish they could kill the
Speaker 5: band aid off quickly and do it, but it's gonna
Speaker 5: take all in to do it and hopefully finish. But
Speaker 5: I'm I'm going to all in. I'm telling you, I
Speaker 5: don't want to watch that match. I want to leave,
Speaker 5: partly because I don't want to watch it and I
Speaker 5: feel sorry for Forever beats him.
Speaker 1: Are you guys still there?
Speaker 5: Hello, I'm here, Okay, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: When it comes to Marita Shaffir, I think basically what
Speaker 3: she neats is reps, you know. I think she needs
Speaker 3: to do some indie dates and get some reps because
Speaker 3: I mean, she just hasn't wrestled. I mean, you can't
Speaker 3: not wrestle. I'd be a wrestler.
Speaker 2: Well for this either. I mean I don't remember the
Speaker 2: last time she had a match in a w.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what I just said. In order for
Speaker 3: you to be a wrestler, you have to wrestle.
Speaker 6: And was she was?
Speaker 2: She used in r o H before she came back.
Speaker 3: In here a few times, but not.
Speaker 2: I think the last time I remember her actually doing
Speaker 2: anything in a w was back when they had Dark.
Speaker 3: Well let.
Speaker 6: Rosa and the whole sandbagging incident.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I know, I know that you guys
Speaker 1: aren't gonna like this, but Marina Shaffer is the def
Speaker 1: were Women's World champion. So she holds a championship belt
Speaker 1: in the Indies and I don't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought she was going to come to AW and
Speaker 1: be this phenomenal wrestler, not following John Moxley around. I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened there, But she does have a
Speaker 1: championship belt.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but again, I mean, when's the last
Speaker 3: time she defended the Fight Worldship Women's World Championship. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: I don't think that she's wrestling anywhere. My point is is,
Speaker 3: I don't think that she's wrestling anywhere near as many
Speaker 3: matchess as he needs to.
Speaker 1: I think she defended it right before she came to AW.
Speaker 1: This last time. I think that's the last time she
Speaker 1: defended that championship. So it's in six months or so.
Speaker 3: It's bet a minute.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but look, we've we talked about the
Speaker 7: Young Bucks.
Speaker 3: I just don't know. You know, this is the opportunity,
Speaker 3: perfect opportunity for Jack Perry to come back. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: the opportunity for Lucasaurus to come back and team with
Speaker 3: Jack Perry. I don't know, but Jack Perry has been
Speaker 3: missing for a while. I mean, you've got a lot
Speaker 3: of wrestlers at ae W. It's April, it's almost mid April,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of wrestlers at a W have
Speaker 3: not wrestled at AAW match yet in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: And you know, got to get them out there and
Speaker 3: get them wrestling because there's some people people that are
Speaker 3: on the payroll. And you know, Tony Kahan did it
Speaker 3: with Penta, with Ray Phoenix, Ricky Starks. Now it looks
Speaker 3: like it's Jack Perry where they're just not wrestling. As
Speaker 3: far as I know, Jack Perry isn't injured. Anna Jay,
Speaker 3: you know when you're talking about Jack Perry, Anna Jay
Speaker 3: has not wrestled in twenty twenty five. Britt Baker has
Speaker 3: not wrestled in twenty twenty five. You got all you
Speaker 3: got these people on the payroll, use them. That's that's all,
Speaker 3: you know, That's all that's my opinion. Now, at Dynasty,
Speaker 3: we saw three owen Hart matches. We saw Mercedes Monette
Speaker 3: beat Julia Hart. We saw, well some of you saw,
Speaker 3: I didn't Kyle Kyle Fletcher beat Mark Briscoe. And we
Speaker 3: saw Will Osprey defeat Kevin Knight. Now the winners of
Speaker 3: those three matches give you any different different opinions about
Speaker 3: what's going to happen in the owen Hart Cup.
Speaker 1: Nope, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'll break it here when when Mercedes
Speaker 3: Monet defeated Julia Hart, don't forget we have Athena versus
Speaker 3: Harley Cameron. I don't give Harley Cameron a real big
Speaker 3: chance of beating Athena. It would not make any sense.
Speaker 3: I would tend to think that most of you would
Speaker 3: agree with that opinion. Here's the thing, there's two ways
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this. I don't want to see Mercedes
Speaker 3: Monet and Athena in a semifinal match for owen Hart, however,
Speaker 3: because I don't think that that's special enough. However, it
Speaker 3: would be special to see a Theata versus Mercedes Bonet
Speaker 3: in the main event a spring breakthrough in Boston. That's
Speaker 3: the only way it makes sense to get that crowd
Speaker 3: fired up to see arguably the two most dominant women
Speaker 3: in well one in aw and one and Ring of
Speaker 3: Honor and put him at a clash on that big
Speaker 3: anniversary event. Would you guys agree with that?
Speaker 2: That's most likely where it's gonna happen. But I mean,
Speaker 2: for me, the Owen's gonna go exactly the way I
Speaker 2: thought it would. You're gonna end up having probably Mercedes
Speaker 2: win that match and she's gonna face it looks like
Speaker 2: it's gonna be her versus Statlander for round three in
Speaker 2: the final. And on the men's side, I mean.
Speaker 3: They wait a minute. You think Mercedes is gonna beat
Speaker 3: Athena in a non title mage owen.
Speaker 2: You're not going to have her lose to Athena the
Speaker 2: first time. It ain't happening. I don't care if it's
Speaker 2: at the pay per view, I don't care if it's
Speaker 2: at the that special event. Athena is not beating her
Speaker 2: the first time.
Speaker 3: I hear. I think I gotta say, you know, I
Speaker 3: think Athena is going to beat Mercedes Monett. I think
Speaker 3: she's going to win the women's tournament and she's gonna
Speaker 3: turn around because Mercedes Monett, because Athena Beater is going
Speaker 3: to probably lose her every love in mind and just
Speaker 3: hound Athena fill no end. And I think Athena is
Speaker 3: gonna say, hey, instead of me going after the AW
Speaker 3: Women's World Championship at all in, I want to go
Speaker 3: against Athena at all against Mercedes Bonet at all in.
Speaker 3: I really do think that it's gonna be. I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Mercedes at Athena at all in, not
Speaker 3: Mercedes that Tony Storm.
Speaker 2: I mean the same, have the same thought, but this
Speaker 2: is my thinking on why she's going to be the
Speaker 2: thena the first time. I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: the exact opposite. I think that Athena is gonna lose.
Speaker 2: Athena's gonna lose her freaking mind, and she's going to
Speaker 2: face her at the pay per view the next pay
Speaker 2: per view for that title, because it will be it
Speaker 2: will give Mercedes the chance to gloat like she wants
Speaker 2: to gloat, and she's going to have this thing over
Speaker 2: Mercedes over Athena. Athena needs to lose the ROH title
Speaker 2: before she's gonna win one on on AW. I don't
Speaker 2: see her having both titles. I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 2: I mean it's and eventually it's going to be the
Speaker 2: same thing. We come up with the same scenario, we
Speaker 2: just get it at a different.
Speaker 5: Way, right, I don't know, I see I see Mercedes
Speaker 5: cheating to win or maybe us as Billy starts to turn.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but uh, I said Mercedes cheating and
Speaker 5: it and it drives Athena nuts that I'm crazy, and
Speaker 5: then she she starts on a rampage and it ends
Speaker 5: up somehow, somehow. You're right, though, it will be for
Speaker 5: losing the r H title. I don't know who, but
Speaker 5: it's gonna happen. Eventually, it has to happen. But I
Speaker 5: really do think all In is a place to end
Speaker 5: Monette's reign.
Speaker 3: How what about you and Nett? Do you have any
Speaker 3: opinions on the women's side of the yewen Hart?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think gonna Athene is gonna lose that ring
Speaker 1: of honor about how I don't know, but I think
Speaker 1: that she's going to I kind of think that Billy
Speaker 1: Starks is going to going to do a run in
Speaker 1: which is so popular on a W and cost her
Speaker 1: that championship. But I I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of hard to tell because both her
Speaker 1: and Monet are really good and at the top of
Speaker 1: their game, So I don't know. It's the potential for
Speaker 1: a good story there, So I have a feeling it's
Speaker 1: gonna get messed up somehow.
Speaker 3: So unfortunately, Well, let's let's talk about the men's side again.
Speaker 3: We saw Ausbrey and Fletcher both win. Uh, who do
Speaker 3: we have? I mean, have you changed your minds? Who
Speaker 3: do you have? Winning the owen Hart and getting the
Speaker 3: title shot? A lot of people seem to think that
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Will Osprey.
Speaker 2: Ospray and Fletcher in the final.
Speaker 3: Osprey wins, you think they're gonna run back Osprey and
Speaker 3: Fletcher so soon.
Speaker 2: I don't see anybody else on either side beating the
Speaker 2: other one. I mean, I really don't You've got that.
Speaker 2: Who's the who's left in the men's side? On Fletcher side,
Speaker 2: I hangm in the Hangman in the wild card, and
Speaker 2: I don't see I don't see Hangman beating Fletcher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you got Takashta right at Osprey's space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that will be. That will probably be the
Speaker 2: match of the Owen on the.
Speaker 4: Men's Yeah, we've seen We've seen Fletcher and Osprey for
Speaker 4: this would be the fourth match in six months, so
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it doesn't make any sense to do that.
Speaker 2: But for me, that's the way it's. It's it's fleshing
Speaker 2: out unless they put in some crazy, outrageous wild card
Speaker 2: guy that could beat everybody. But I wouldn't know who
Speaker 2: that would be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, tones, I would too, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that.
Speaker 2: That does make a little sense too, because it would
Speaker 2: be the don Kallis family. But I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just I think they're gonna end up doing ospray. I
Speaker 2: think ostburying to gets it. I think Ostbury's gonna beat him,
Speaker 2: kind of his revenge against the Callus family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, tomorrow night is Dynamite. There's going to
Speaker 3: be fallout from Dynasty. Is there anything particular that you're
Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing happen at Dynamite tomorrow night? I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously we may get to see. It would be a
Speaker 3: mistake if they didn't bring out the Bucks, So I mean,
Speaker 3: it'd be interesting to see what the Bucks say. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I really don't know. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna be honest with you. The whole AW World
Speaker 3: Championship scene has gotten me so down on AW right now,
Speaker 3: I haven't really thought about Dynamite at all.
Speaker 5: Well, I think MJ's gonna come out again and try
Speaker 5: to addressed hurt Syndicate and try to it on their
Speaker 5: good side because he because they tried to help them
Speaker 5: with Big Bill, So that's gonna come about. Ricochet is
Speaker 5: going to have an excuse of why he lost, so
Speaker 5: there's that too.
Speaker 2: I think a Swerve and Hangman will be setting in
Speaker 2: motion their partnership tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because Tony Kahn moves so slow with
Speaker 3: these kind of things, So maybe another four weeks before
Speaker 3: we get to that point.
Speaker 2: Well, they only got what not even five weeks for
Speaker 2: the next pay per view, so they got to start
Speaker 2: setting things up for the next one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gotta get a move on they really.
Speaker 2: That's the and that And you're right, Kelson, that's the
Speaker 2: one thing that's bad about Tony Conners. He moves very
Speaker 2: slowly on everything he does.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only match that I can think of that's
Speaker 3: probably set in stone for double or nothing is the
Speaker 3: Ops against the Death riders for the Trail Championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you. I was gonna say there might
Speaker 2: be a tag team imagine there, but who that would be?
Speaker 2: I mean the Bucks. I don't see the Bucks. I
Speaker 2: don't see anybody beating hurtsin to get for those titles
Speaker 2: for a while, So that would kind of be like
Speaker 2: a eh, whatever, whoever you want throwing there, you can
Speaker 2: throw in there. It's really gonna be an odd thing
Speaker 2: to see what happens tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hoping that they announced maybe that that Athena
Speaker 3: and Harley Cameron match will take place like on Collision,
Speaker 3: at least maybe tomorrow night. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I haven't really Again, I've been I was so down
Speaker 3: after that. They may have announced matches for Dynamite, but
Speaker 3: I've been so down on a w after the because
Speaker 3: of the World Championship fiasco is the only way to
Speaker 3: put it. I haven't even looked to see if they've
Speaker 3: announced any for Dynamite tomorrow night. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't believe they have. I haven't seen any.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm sure we'll hear from Wendy Richter,
Speaker 3: uh that if you didn't see it the the media scrum.
Speaker 3: Tony Storm at the media scrum. Oh my god, I did.
Speaker 3: I felt so bad for Tony Khan because I don't
Speaker 3: think he literally knew where to go. I didn't know.
Speaker 3: It was like, I haven't seen it Tony Khan have
Speaker 3: a reaction like that since Sea. I'm punk lost his
Speaker 3: mind because Tony Storm completely lost it. And did you
Speaker 3: guys see did you did you guys? Did you do
Speaker 3: you guys? See her in the media scrum.
Speaker 2: I have a Western media probably for six months.
Speaker 3: Let me put it this way. I can't repeat she
Speaker 3: she read. She literally read word for word. There once
Speaker 3: was a man from Nantucket, dirty Limerick, and Tody Kahan
Speaker 3: wanted to You could tell he wanted to go under
Speaker 3: the desk, run and hide because it was filthy and okay,
Speaker 3: you've got the mute, buddy, I'm making so much noise.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I fully expect that we'll hear from
Speaker 3: Tony Storm tomorrow night, but we won't hear from her
Speaker 3: like that. And I don't know. It was interesting because
Speaker 3: one of the things that I found interesting was the
Speaker 3: you like, the exclusive backstage things they did after Dynasty.
Speaker 3: They had, of course swerve meeting up with MVP. Uh.
Speaker 3: They actually did have something with Max Caster, which was hysterical.
Speaker 3: They had something with that had him with uh, Anthony Bowens,
Speaker 3: and they had something with Megan Bain. So I like
Speaker 3: that because it's showing that this wasn't a one and
Speaker 3: done with like somebody like Anthony Bowens and and Megan Bain.
Speaker 3: It's okay, Began Bain lost, Anthony Bowens won. It sounds
Speaker 3: to me like they have plans for them still just
Speaker 3: by by showing that. So yeah, I just like that.
Speaker 3: So anyway, let's get to our pot pirie. That's where
Speaker 3: we talk about anything related to AW could be WWE
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to talk about. Uh in the
Speaker 3: wrestling world, Does anybody have a pot pirie?
Speaker 1: I have a question. Is Buddy Matthews injured? He's injured?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? You heard his knee I think it was
Speaker 3: or his ankle in the match against Okada in Australia and.
Speaker 1: What's his name is injured? To Jess Robinson, how about
Speaker 1: the Guns? Are they out injured or what's up with them?
Speaker 3: Well, they came back and they wrestled the match and
Speaker 3: that was the last we've heard of them. I did
Speaker 3: see a report that Jeus Robinson will be back sooner
Speaker 3: than later. Of course, Kyle Fletcher posted that that sky
Speaker 3: Blue is going to be back sooner rather than later
Speaker 3: as well. And of course we've also heard from Lucasaurus
Speaker 3: himself that he's doing a lot better and he's just
Speaker 3: waiting on Creative to give him something to do. So
Speaker 3: we may be getting some wrestlers back.
Speaker 1: In a w I'm thinking about the mystery person in
Speaker 1: the Owen Cup. Who is that other than our favorite Kelson.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Eddie Kingston. Can you imagine Eddie
Speaker 3: Kingston coming back and fighting hangman Adam Paige.
Speaker 2: Come on, he comes back and enters the contest. I
Speaker 2: gotta switch up to I think's gonna win. It's gotta
Speaker 2: be Eddie.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Most most people that I've seen h commenting on who
Speaker 3: the wild card is. Most people say that it's Josh Alexander.
Speaker 1: H Okay, okay, I'm wondering what we've been wrong before.
Speaker 3: Let's see except.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I personally think that it's gonna be right for the
Speaker 3: get go on. Always thought it was going to be
Speaker 3: Josh Alexander. So and I don't think that it's going
Speaker 3: to be Kodobushie. Sorry, you know, I know, you know, Look,
Speaker 3: Josh Alexander can come in and have a great match
Speaker 3: with hang Manhandan Paige and lose, and the stock won't
Speaker 3: go down if it's Eddie Kingston, which I don't think
Speaker 3: there's a snowball's chance in hell that it's Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 3: There's no way Eddie Kingston beach Hangman Anna Page first
Speaker 3: of all. And if he does, what's the point. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just so unfair having the prototype athlete.
Speaker 3: You know, did you look at somebody like Kyle Fletcher.
Speaker 3: He physically, everything about him is just so much more
Speaker 3: unathletic than Eddie Kingston. Because I love Eddie Kingston and
Speaker 3: nobody can ever say anything about him that will make
Speaker 3: me stop loving him until he comes back, and then
Speaker 3: I'll go back to Haiti gains Cut. This is so
Speaker 3: freaking bad in the ring. I don't understand. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: You know, it's He's made an entire career all across
Speaker 1: the world with his wrestling style, So there's something there.
Speaker 3: Made a career out of being bad. Okay, I mean
Speaker 3: if anybody. I have never heard of anybody say that
Speaker 3: he's a good wrestler. He's not, but I love seeing him.
Speaker 1: People show up to see Eddie, So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I could say something about people being idiots,
Speaker 3: but I won't because there's plenty of proof out there.
Speaker 3: All you have to do is go on the internet
Speaker 3: any day of the week and you will see plenty
Speaker 3: of idiots. You know. Whatever I could, I could say more,
Speaker 3: but I'm not. Anybody else have a potpourri I do.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: I want to give tons of prop to Kyle Fletcher.
Speaker 5: The guy can put on an interview outside of the
Speaker 5: uh AW Arena. He can. He looks good. He needs
Speaker 5: to be a champion sooner than later. I don't care
Speaker 5: who you do it. If he won, Look, I would
Speaker 5: not be mad or upset. If he won the Owen himself,
Speaker 5: it would be a weird matchup for him versus Moxley.
Speaker 5: But if he look I would have no problem with
Speaker 5: it because he's that good. He brings excitement and he
Speaker 5: knows how to put on a match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Look, you get the Owen right now. Osprey,
Speaker 3: Takasha and Fletcher or the three in the men's side
Speaker 3: to make the most sense. And let's not forget that
Speaker 3: once his wrestling days are over. Fletcher one hell of
Speaker 3: a weather man. I I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you've seen the videos, but he does a lot of
Speaker 3: morning or afternoon uh interviews on the weather on news
Speaker 3: channels and they all had I think three times now
Speaker 3: he's done the weather forecast for them, and he's hysterical
Speaker 3: and he but he does his best. He's not fluffing it.
Speaker 3: He does his best. But he's just got such an
Speaker 3: outgoing personality. He's got that Golden Retriever energy, as sith
Speaker 3: Witch would say. And uh yeah, he's just entertaining pointing
Speaker 3: out a green screen map. He makes it fun. Look,
Speaker 3: he's a good he's good. He's good. I agree with MK.
Speaker 3: He's good.
Speaker 2: Head Medie relogies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go look it up. He's done like three different
Speaker 3: weather forecast now in three different states. And part of
Speaker 3: it is really interesting is listening to him trying to
Speaker 3: pronounce some of the names because, you know, not being
Speaker 3: an American, he has never heard those names before. You know,
Speaker 3: you know, like you know Poughkeepsie. Yeah, try to try
Speaker 3: to read that one and say it right. If you've
Speaker 3: never seen it or heard it before. Sud do you
Speaker 3: have a POTPIRI you do not, Well, I don't either. Look,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm looking forward and dreading Dynamite Tomorrow Night. At
Speaker 3: the same time, it's kind of weird. I wish I
Speaker 3: knew what to expect, you know, whether you know we'll
Speaker 3: hear from this person, we'll hear from that person, this match,
Speaker 3: that match, whatever. But you know what, generally speaking, fallout
Speaker 3: shows from pay per views are usually pretty cool. I
Speaker 3: usually enjoy them, and I think we're going to see
Speaker 3: Tomorrow Night. If nothing else, Tomorrow Night is going to
Speaker 3: mark my words, this, I guess this is my pot pourri.
Speaker 3: I think Tomorrow Night is going to be used to
Speaker 3: set up next week's Dynamite, which is the spring breakthrough
Speaker 3: Dynamite and also the dynamite that breaks the I guess
Speaker 3: you could call it the record of WCW Nitro, meaning
Speaker 3: AW would then be the longest professional wrestling show to
Speaker 3: air on TBS. There will be now more episodes. As
Speaker 3: of next Wednesday, there will be more episodes of AW
Speaker 3: Dynamite than there was of WCW Nitro. That's hard to believe,
Speaker 3: but so I think that. I really do think that
Speaker 3: they're going to treat that spring breakthrough as a pretty
Speaker 3: big deal, and I think they're going to make some
Speaker 3: pay per view worthy matches for that pay per view,
Speaker 3: for that pay per view, for that Dynamite show next week.
Speaker 2: When when's the four hour show that they've been talking.
Speaker 3: About, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: They're making a big deal out of it, except for
Speaker 2: the fact that I can't remember when the hell they're
Speaker 2: making it for. I think it's in early May. I
Speaker 2: can't remember that. That's going to be a very interesting show,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's more night.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll get something going. They got to do something
Speaker 2: for next week, because you can got nothing for it.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean, hey, we just had a
Speaker 3: six hour pay per view when you add in the
Speaker 3: zero hour, you know, so a four hour show won't
Speaker 3: I'll break the band, I guess. You know, we'll still
Speaker 3: get more sleep us, you know, unless you go to
Speaker 3: bed early. You know, Hey, John Moxley and the Death
Speaker 3: Writers are wrestling for the main event. That's one of
Speaker 3: the things I just do not understand. We argued about
Speaker 3: not amongst ourselves, but we argued that Tony Storm of
Speaker 3: Riah may could have been a better main event at Revolution,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Sunday's event backwards the first match. I don't understand the
Speaker 2: thinking of putting predictably your best match as the first
Speaker 2: match makes no sense osbry Kevin.
Speaker 3: The best match is always going to be the high
Speaker 3: stakes match.
Speaker 2: You know, that was just crazy. That match was the
Speaker 2: best match of the night, And there's just it don't
Speaker 2: make no sense to me.
Speaker 3: While I will say this in all honesty, I believe
Speaker 3: that the next AW World Championship Idle Defense on pay
Speaker 3: pay per view should be the last match on zero hour.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't even be part of a pay per view. It's
Speaker 3: just it's meaningless. It's the belt is meaningless. Give it,
Speaker 3: give it the time that it's you know that it,
Speaker 3: give it the time slot it deserves, and that's the
Speaker 3: last match on zero hour. I'm just being honest here,
Speaker 3: I'm not being facetious at all. It doesn't it the
Speaker 3: belt is meaningless, so give it a meaningless time slot.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't take Take a look, let's just say that
Speaker 3: Mercedes and Athena may take place at double or nothing.
Speaker 3: That's the main event. I can't think of another match
Speaker 3: that could possibly you could have John Moxley against pick
Speaker 3: a name out of a hat, and it doesn't equal
Speaker 3: to Mercedes and a Athena's that's my point.
Speaker 2: I don't speak. I don't think you'll have last that long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we've lost MK, we've lost NET before we
Speaker 3: lose you, I'm going to go ahead and wrap this
Speaker 3: show up. Thank you for watching. We will be back
Speaker 3: tomorrow night right after Dynamite Wednesday night about ten fifteen
Speaker 3: for our aw Dynamite review. We'll see what the fallowout
Speaker 3: from Dynasty is and see what kind of matches. And again,
Speaker 3: I do believe that they're gonna set up quite a
Speaker 3: number of matches, pay per view worthy matches at that
Speaker 3: for spring breakthrough next week on Dynamite. So I really
Speaker 3: do think that's gonna happen. So forty AW Fan a
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