WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:03.200 Disclaimer. We'd like to know before the start of this 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:05.799 interview that the opinions about to be expressed by the 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:09.000 guest of Tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:12.000 the guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the 5 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:16.280 views of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 6 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:33.640 You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 7 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:41.840 Hello Belloe. 8 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:47.119 Kenny Delaney joined us again from the kitchen table. 9 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:50.679 Yeah, you know, you know, he's a great villain. 10 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:53.320 I appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me. Thank 11 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:53.799 you so much. 12 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:55.320 Could you just bow down for a little so we 13 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:57.920 see what's behind you? Oh, look at that. That was 14 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:01.840 what's behind you, bro. 15 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:03.240 It fell off the wall the other day. 16 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.599 It's just something, especially when you're half Yeah. 17 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:09.280 Oh really, form of flattery. 18 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:13.439 I've always Yes, that's I agree with you. You do? 19 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:17.519 Yeah, bag tonight, I'm sorry what yeah? 20 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.400 Yeah, Oh my yam bag. It's a it's doing a right. 21 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.560 Like I said, it's to take a couple of deep, 22 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:22.319 deep breasts, but. 23 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:24.319 You're sitting on a bag of peace frozen. 24 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:27.519 No, no, like I said, I didn't. He just he 25 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:30.040 said my nuts were gonna turn purple, and they didn't 26 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:31.879 turn a shade color. They got saggy, but you know 27 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:34.599 they didn't turn a shade of any color. 28 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:35.959 Wow, that's good news. 29 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:37.599 You still have both of them. 30 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:39.239 Yeah, it's all there, all right. 31 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.840 Now, give him to his wife when he goes outside. 32 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:50.120 So sorry, babe, mind you can't hear you. Well. 33 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:54.760 Back the Experienced podcast. It's the other one that brings 34 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:56.040 the Flyhouse Kitchen. 35 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:58.920 Table to you. To you and we have a new 36 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:00.799 membership program that you know about the guns. 37 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:02.599 No, no, won't you tell me a little bit about it. 38 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.519 In the description after show you can join a membership. 39 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.639 It's Dick ken Get's thirty ye three ninety nine from silver, 40 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:13.759 I think nine for gold. With the five ninety nine 41 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:16.759 you get all new content. We got about fifteen shows 42 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:18.560 waiting to go. We just put up the if you 43 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:24.319 want to see the Halligan documentary where I interview Hugh 44 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:28.199 Halligan's son out in Jersey five ninety nine. 45 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:29.800 You get a whole bunch of other stuff. 46 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:31.120 I don't know what you get guns like when you're 47 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.919 in the chat here, you get like emojis and. 48 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:35.919 Some of Yes, you get a couple of features. We'll 49 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:37.240 break it down and as we get a little bit 50 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.120 more into this bridge down for you guys, so you 51 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.400 can you know, you guys are emojis lot. 52 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:52.000 This is America, baby, you've. 53 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.280 Never seen it before. It's a beautiful membership. 54 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:56.680 Was that your trump? 55 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:08.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, shut up, chilly woman, shut up, see 56 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:09.520 it back on back on the mend. 57 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.800 Yeah, a bunch of walking wounded. He Louis with his hand. 58 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:14.560 You your yam baged me with my knee. 59 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:15.960 What's just gonna say? The knee? 60 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.560 Is it my brain? 61 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:19.960 And he is better? No, Cane, I'm not walking away 62 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:20.599 Cane anymore. 63 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:24.599 Nicoll. That a fifth head, but you know five head, 64 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:25.039 five head. 65 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:28.000 Hey, anytime you guys want to advertise right here, go ahead. 66 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.000 It's no I have a banner for you. We'll work on. 67 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:31.840 Ninety nine for an emoji right here. 68 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:33.080 We'll give you that hat. 69 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:35.080 Well, you don't want to put on a short clip 70 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.919 of this really cool other podcast that we let me 71 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:41.000 on to you got it, guns. 72 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:43.479 Let me see if for some reason or another, whatever 73 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:45.360 you set me, it's not giving me the audio. It 74 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:48.000 just gives me this. So whatever he's saying obviously is 75 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:50.800 being lipped or being put up on the screen mat 76 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:51.360 But it'll take. 77 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:55.919 A shower, take a ship, got you gotta go, always wondering. 78 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.360 Now if you go to the bedroom, the tones go off, 79 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.520 better you better get there, man. 80 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:02.919 Come you go. 81 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:07.639 You go deep on your podcast, bro, really deep intellectual subjects. 82 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:09.560 I love, hey man, Sometimes I just gotta you know, 83 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:10.319 I want to get to laugh. 84 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.120 I want people don't understand when we got to do 85 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:14.719 this stuff in the fire hous, Like what do you do? 86 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:16.600 Like the tones go off? You got you're taking a. 87 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:20.279 Dump and you got and do a quick wipe. 88 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:24.399 Guard cut it, bro, I say, you go your wipe, 89 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:26.240 You go your wipe, You go your wipe, so you're 90 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:27.360 always clean, ready to you. 91 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.360 Ready to go right now? You cat it between go 92 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:31.199 and wipe. But that's that's the chance you take. 93 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:33.199 That's the chance we take. Right. This is then why 94 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:34.720 we do what we do right. 95 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.079 And I will always say, bro, there I watch a 96 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:41.120 lot of podcasts. I can't watch any other fire Department podcast. 97 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:42.439 I'm not just patting myself. 98 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.800 On the back, but I will. But Kenny can watch. 99 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:47.000 I get a good laugh out of Kenny. He's got 100 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:48.439 a great show. Go over and check him out. 101 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:48.639 Bro. 102 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:50.839 I appreciate it. Thank you so much. 103 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.000 Yeah, good stuff. That's why we have back here with 104 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:53.639 Louis out. 105 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.120 Louis out probably looks something like this right now, he said, 106 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:00.439 a one O three two ninety reunion today just either 107 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:02.480 face pie eyed. 108 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.439 Pie eyed right now. Probably can't feel his hand anymore. 109 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:07.399 So that's good. 110 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.319 But thanks again for having me, and I really truly 111 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:11.120 appreciate and humble. 112 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.759 So thanks guys, commercial you wire. 113 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:22.639 Tell you way. Sorry. All right, there we go. 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That's www dot 183 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:20.480 nj f E dot com. 184 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.000 And if you want to see Joel Kanaski well then 185 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:25.440 you sign up for the membership because he's in the 186 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.679 beginning of every single history with Hashegan. We got about 187 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:32.000 twenty episodes start up for that. So you like Keshagen, 188 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:35.279 you like history, you'll love the job. You need to 189 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.679 get the the membership, right, God's. 190 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:41.240 Absolutely, absolutely right. You're doing good on that, much better 191 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:41.759 than the Amato. 192 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:43.519 But you're doing really good Nomatic tach tough. 193 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:47.240 Yeah, do you want to do uh? Health of safety? 194 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:48.600 You want to wait till yeah, we'll do the end. 195 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.480 I have a good one I want to do. Kenny 196 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.399 just actually put the little seed in my mind, so okay, yeah, yeah, 197 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:56.240 well let's bring him in here. Let's bring you in 198 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:00.840 Bill Nieman, as I like to call him, Bill Nye, 199 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:05.960 the fire guy. 200 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:08.240 I'm going to do this. If you over hear that 201 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:08.960 way you play. 202 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:12.440 I'm not Louise, fine, don't. 203 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:16.960 I usually appreciate it anytime with mustache like that, bro, 204 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:19.000 they see the young pictures of you. 205 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:25.840 Retro seventies before we jump into that. 206 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.080 Hello, sorry, my daughter was leaving. 207 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:38.960 What you were doing. Let's let's get patriotic really quick, 208 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:39.639 right here we go. 209 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:46.360 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 210 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.919 of America and to the Republic for which it stands, 211 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:59.039 one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 212 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:12.039 Where is Missus Procaccini's husband. He's not in it tonight, 213 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:12.279 you know. 214 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.519 I mean it is uh, it is June getting people 215 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.039 are getting out of school, you know how that is, 216 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:19.559 and there're partying right. 217 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:21.559 Now, Senior, promise tonight up here by me? 218 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:27.159 Really, yeah, hopefully there's people make good choices. 219 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:32.879 Yeah, this punch, I'm sure, God you got it. 220 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.480 Actual, Welcome to the show, brother, Thank you. 221 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.519 Why don't you tell us start off by telling us 222 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:39.600 a little about yourself. 223 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:42.320 What happened? 224 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:47.080 All right, everybody? Just a streaming will be good? You are, Yeah, just. 225 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.039 I give the guys who heads up stream yards having 226 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:50.120 a big problem today. 227 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:52.799 So if somebody you might have to kick somebody out 228 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:53.960 or restart or whatever. 229 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.360 Yeah, so it might even just involved us. So in 230 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.559 case if you don't hear anything, I don't say anything, 231 00:11:58.600 --> 00:11:59.360 give us a few minutes. 232 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:02.840 Yes, So we found out a Brooklyn fellow. Yeah, a 233 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:03.879 little background on that. 234 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:07.039 Brooklyn born and Brad three eighteen men of hand between 235 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.919 wike Off and her and my mother was born and 236 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.519 raised in three twenty men ahand when she got married, 237 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:18.840 she literally moved next door. I went to Saint Bridgett's Church, 238 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:23.960 their Prinjede Grammar School, Grove Cleveland High School. My grandmother 239 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.440 passed away and she left my parents the money to 240 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.600 buy a house, but it wasn't enough to buy a 241 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:32.720 house and uh, good part of New York. So they 242 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:36.200 were visiting a friend of my grandmother's in Fredericksburg, Virginia, 243 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:39.000 and they came home and said, guess what we're moving. 244 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:42.960 I said, you movement. I'm doing my last year in 245 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.200 Grove Cleveland. It didn't work out that way, but I 246 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.200 went down here kicking and screaming, but it was the 247 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:49.600 best thing they could have done for him. 248 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:51.679 You got to see how much those property goes for 249 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:57.759 now in Bushwick Man That yeah. 250 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.240 So, Uh, my father worked for paying AM for twenty 251 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.480 years and I pad developed had an interest in aviation 252 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.399 my part. He was career on me until he got 253 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.120 shot up in Korea. So I thought I was going 254 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:10.440 to be going to military and do stuffing in aviation 255 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:15.480 and military. And then Saturday evening nineteen seventy two TV 256 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.639 show came on called Emergency, and I watched that two 257 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:24.360 hour pilot and at the end of that show, I 258 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:25.919 was gonna be a five paramedic. 259 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:30.879 And time somebody's ever told that show got them to 260 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:31.360 sign up. 261 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.240 I got to join the part part rampart. 262 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:37.519 Yep, somebody else. 263 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:41.519 You interviewed Keith Nicoliello and he said, that's all you 264 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:43.080 ever talked about. And then when I told to me 265 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:44.440 the other day, he was like, he was, Now that 266 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:45.840 I look back at the show, the show is that 267 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:46.720 it's a stupid shop. 268 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.480 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's no question about it. Yeah it was. 269 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:52.519 It was inspiring back then. And I was a young 270 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:54.879 volunteer back then too, so it was I ate it 271 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:55.279 all up. 272 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:58.679 I just so you volunteered where first with the boss. 273 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:02.279 A fredickspurg for six eight years. I guess it was 274 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.159 in my novel. I started my career off with the 275 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.919 county in seventy six. Actually, I was a federal firefighter 276 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:12.519 at Marico Basedquontica from seventy six to seventy nine. I 277 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.679 played on staying there and the fire chief, Walter Stone 278 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:17.960 at the time, kept tell me that the fire department 279 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:19.840 was going to take over the base EMS and we 280 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.360 were going to get the medic units, and which was 281 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:24.559 run by the Navy at that point, and since I 282 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.399 was an EMT, he wanted me to head up the 283 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.759 program and they were quote some captain's bugles in my future. Well, 284 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.960 three years went by and we never got the EMS. 285 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.679 So I went ahead and took the entrance exam for 286 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:40.360 Prince William because their paramount program, which is starting. Another 287 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.360 guy that went with me, Roger Roach, who I worked at. 288 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.360 Unfortunate Roger passed away he lost July. We both got 289 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.240 hired within the year of each other. I hope Roger's wife, 290 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:55.600 Sarah was watching. So I went to Prince William and 291 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:59.320 as they say, the rest is history. When EMS became 292 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:01.840 a cardiact heck, which now that I think they call 293 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:07.960 them intermediate paramedics or Advanced teams or something, was on 294 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.919 one of the was in the second class basically that 295 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.080 graduated with the paramedic program on the Virginia Community College. 296 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.320 It was one of our first one hundred and fifty 297 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.559 paramedics emtps in Virginia. I think my number was one 298 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.399 sixteen A paramedic unit for a couple of years, had 299 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:30.840 a great time, got promoted the lieutenant. I was a 300 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.320 I was a medic on a Monday on a Friday, 301 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.799 and I was truck lieutenant on a Monday, so there 302 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:42.120 was no transition. Uh, the department was young, and at 303 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:45.679 the time we were a career volunteer department. We had 304 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.320 I think there were fifteen volunteer companies within Prince Wayne 305 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.080 County and the company one was actually City of A 306 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:55.320 Nassas and they were independent. 307 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:58.480 They had their paid for every time we passed that. 308 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.559 But you know answers stem. 309 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:04.480 NASA's Park eng Company nine ever the same way they 310 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:07.000 were an independent. Then we had the Marine Corps Base 311 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:10.600 Chronicle right at four stations. We ran mutual aid with them, 312 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.360 and we had Vin Hill Station, which was an omni 313 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.440 post that had a fire station. We ran mutual aid 314 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.600 with them. The career guys worked seven to five Monday 315 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:22.759 through Friday, weekends and holidays off. And when I look 316 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:28.799 back at it, that was a sweet gig. I mean, yeah, right, Well, 317 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:30.440 when you're twenty three years old, you want to be 318 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.000 out there at two o'clock in the morning, you know, 319 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.440 fight fire, saving lives, you know. But when I look back, 320 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:37.080 it was a sweet gig to be able to do 321 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.360 the job and work straight days and have all the 322 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:41.759 holidays and weekends off couldn't. 323 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:43.679 Answer, so the paid guys were only seven to five 324 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.639 Monday to Friday and they took everything else. 325 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.399 Some of the volunteers stations had living programs or they 326 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:50.759 actually had volunteers living there. 327 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:51.480 Yeah. 328 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:55.600 Yeah, Joel was one of the livings. Some of them 329 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.919 had duty assigned duty nights, so you had to be 330 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:01.840 at the station or a particular night to serve your duty, 331 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.200 and others you just responded to the station when the 332 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:04.960 tonys went off. 333 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:07.920 So how many total were paid? How many guys? 334 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:12.559 Back then I was My employee number was one seventy four, 335 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:15.599 so I was in the first group of two hundred 336 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.240 to be hired. Now I think there's like fifteen hundred 337 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.119 career staff. That's pretty big, and there's still volunteer. A 338 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.160 lot of stations have folded and turned the keys over 339 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:27.000 the county, but there's still half a dozen volunteer departments. 340 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:30.480 They are still functioning, but it's predominantly twenty four to 341 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:34.359 seven in the county now in the first units, I think, 342 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.680 I get I can't remember. Sometime in the nineties we 343 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:39.880 started transitioning to the stations that we're having trouble getting 344 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:44.279 units out to twenty four hour career service still supplemented 345 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:48.799 by volunteers engine and medical career. And then the volunteers 346 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:50.759 were staffed a lot of truck squads or you know, 347 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:52.119 other supplemented. 348 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:53.359 How many guys were riding on the rate. 349 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:56.440 Staff minute of staffing for us on an edge company, 350 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.599 the truck was three and then two ornamentics. 351 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.920 An officer officer driver and one guy. 352 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.960 Usually yeah what station you were at, you know, but 353 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:09.680 some of the volunteer stations you had volunteers wing out 354 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.319 the door come ride with you. So sometimes I pulled 355 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:14.839 out there with six people because I had three Craig. 356 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:18.200 Career they can go out on the same rig as 357 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:18.960 the paid guys. 358 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We worked great together and a lot 359 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:25.279 of our volunteers were career guys and other departments too. 360 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.279 So you know, one particular shift, it was me, I 361 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.799 had a volunteer driver who was a career firefighter and 362 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:37.000 other department and two volunteers ride in the bucket. I 363 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:39.720 was the only career guy, uh that that particular day. 364 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:43.960 So uh, and we had my two medics, Steve Starlin 365 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:48.839 and Billy Bill Monument. Uh. So when it worked with 366 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.599 the volunteer system. When it worked, it worked really good. 367 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:54.640 And when it didn't work, it didn't work very good. 368 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.400 So but it, you know, eventually transitioned all pretty much 369 00:18:58.720 --> 00:18:59.400 career service. 370 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:02.119 Were there ever any I asked the guy this who 371 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:03.839 kind of did the same thing. Were ever there any 372 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:06.759 animosity between the paid guys on the volunteer guys. 373 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.160 Yeah, and some of them it was self inflicted. I mean, 374 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:14.400 when you're twenty three years old, you have a whole 375 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.319 different perspective. I mean, our volunteers didn't have to worry 376 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.039 about a three big process. They always most of the 377 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:26.319 departments had the best equipment, the finest equipment. Their service 378 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:28.440 time on our first line rig was about seven years. 379 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:31.160 They replaced their front line rugs every seven years. Wow. 380 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:35.440 There's not too many paid departments that do that. Yeah, 381 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:37.480 for the most part, we always had the best equipment 382 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:40.119 to ride on. Belonged to the volunteers, but we got 383 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.160 the ride on it. They had the best really for 384 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:46.839 the most part, really nice stations, great working environments, and 385 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:49.160 it's just like any other work environment. You had volunteer 386 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:51.720 fire chiefs and officers and guys. I was in station 387 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.039 three years, prime example. You couldn't ask for a better 388 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:59.160 working relationship with the volunteers. The fire chief, Miles Young 389 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:01.240 at the time, was actually the fire chief for Andrews 390 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:05.400 Air Force Space. And you know, Miles, when I first 391 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.880 I showed up, Miles said, you're my assistant chief. I'm 392 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.960 a lieutenant and he said you're my assistant chief. Okay, 393 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:15.079 that's how he That's what I was Tom. You know, 394 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.400 I handled the daytime operations and his guys and girls. 395 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:20.279 You know, if they wanted to do something around the station, 396 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:22.640 pull the car in the wash it or something, you know, 397 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:25.200 they had to come and check with me first. So 398 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.240 when it worked, it worked really really good. And when 399 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.680 it didn't work, it didn't work. And I kind of 400 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.200 just talk about that a little bit in my novel. 401 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:36.720