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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. One

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thing that has remained constant since Brian Koberger's arrest is

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that when people talk about their relationship with Coburger in

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the past, they all say the same stuff when it

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comes to his feelings about women. And now, in a

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new episode of Fox Nation, there's a friend of Brian

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Coberger's who's dropping a dime on Coburger's behavior from the

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time when this friend used to hang out with him.

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So let's just dive right into this article from Fox

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News and let's see what this friend of Brian Coberger's

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has to say. Headlined Brian Koberger's former friend speaks out,

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tells Fox Nation murder suspect was frustrated towards women. Brian

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Koberger's middle school friend describes his frustrated feelings towards women,

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tendency to get aggressive when drunk. This article authored by

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Amanda Kopelli, and all of that tracks with what we

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have learned previously, and when you look at the profile

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overall of Brian Coberger, it certainly does seem that he

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has problems with women. When you listen to what his

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students had to say, then you hear all these different

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stories from all the people that have known him throughout

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his life, what other conclusion are we to come to?

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Trials don't always dive into the psychology of what makes

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a killer a killer. Now, former prosecutor and crime expert

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Nancy Grace aims to discover who Idaho murder suspect Brian

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Coberger really is in her new Fox Nation special. Brian Koberger,

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I am blank. Now, look, I'm not a gigantic fan

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of Nancy Grace at all, and a lot of that

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for me has to do with the whole Top Mom stuff.

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But what I will say is she does dig into

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some of these topics and get some information that we

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might not have had otherwise. So I'll definitely tip my

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cap to her for that. But the whole entire Top

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Mom ordeal turn me off to Nancy Grace and her programming.

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Nancy Grace revisited Coburger's middle school days and the Nancy

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Grace Investigates exclusive during which guests from the Idaho quadruple

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murder suspects passed sit down on camera for the first time.

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And it's always good to get some insight from people

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who knew Brian Coberger or anybody that we're talking about,

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because it helps provide more context to the situation overall,

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and for me, context is the key. How are you

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going to understand any of this stuff if it's out

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of context. Coberger's former friend Jack Bayliss told Fox Nation

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that the two would often discuss women and how they

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felt frustrated with the dating scene. Bayless said women would

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ghost them, an online phenomenon where users are ignored with

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little to no explanation. Well, you have to actually be

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talking to somebody before they ghost you. And I'm guessing

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most women that Brian Coberger was contacting, we're not swiping right.

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Clinical police and forensic psychologist doctor Chris Mohandi weighs in,

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explaining that frustration is a common feeling for in cels

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or involuntary celibate, often online young men. And there's been

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a lot of talk about Coburger being an in cell.

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And when you read all these accounts and you hear

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from all these people that knew them, and you hear

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about how much he disdained women, or at the very

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least dislike them, What are we supposed to think? What

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are we supposed to take from that? And then to

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find out all these years later that he's alleged to

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have killed three women and one man. Yeah, I would

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say that where there's some smoke, there's probably some fire.

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Three of the four victims that Coburger allegedly killed were women.

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All were University of Idaho students stabbed to death. In

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November of twenty twenty two, Coburger was arrested on four

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accounts of first degree murder and one out of felony

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burglary while studying toward a PhD in criminology. And of course,

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the fact that he was an educated guy who was

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studying for his PhD has just added to the mystery

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surrounding this whole entire thing. Why would a guy that's

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at this level and almost achieving his dreams do something

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like this? That's the question that I think everybody once answered,

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Why did this happen? Coberger's trial is on pause after

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attorneys waved his right to a speedy trial. They said

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they needed more time to create a defense. The Fox

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Nation special also shows that Coburger would message his friend

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that he's been depressed for so long he developed a

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weird sense of meaning. The friend also offered that Coburger

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would get aggressive when drunk, and that his friends would

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have to hide his car keys. Additionally, Bayliss suggested Coburger

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would do other sketchy drugs. Now we know that he

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had a heroin addiction and allegedly he kicked that heroin

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addiction previously, but other sketchy drugs we really haven't heard

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too much about that. Coberger reportedly kicked a heroin addiction

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before pursuing his criminal justice degree. He also faced charges

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in twenty fourteen for trying to sell his sister's iPhone

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allegedly while abusing heroin at just nineteen years old. And

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that's a pretty common thing to occur. Somebody has a

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drug addiction, they're living with, their family or whoever. They'll

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steal something and try and sell it to get those drugs.

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And it doesn't matter that it's a family member or

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somebody that they love. The drugs are that powerful. Despite

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the revelations, Nancy Grace told America's newsroom Tuesday that any

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alleged alcohol or drug use will likely not be used

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as a defense in his trial. Now, why would it, Oh,

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he was drunk at the time, So what nobody told

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him to drink that beer? Oh? He was high at

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the time, so what nobody told him to shoot heroin?

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So that as a defense is ridiculed on its one.

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Victim's father, Steve Gonsalvis, told Fox News Digital last week

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that Coburger is receiving special treatment in jail. He said,

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I've been informed that his pre trial privileges, like his

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five suits, video and computer special treatment and his vegan

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meals are unprecedented in the history of Idaho. And we've

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heard reports obviously now from the Sheriff's office in News

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Nation that said that those reports about Coburger getting special

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treatment are untrue. And obviously I can't confirm one way

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or the other who's telling the truth here, but my

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guess is it's somewhere in the middle. This is such

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a high profile case that the state of Idaho and

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the prison system in Idaho, they don't want to take

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the chance of causing an issue or creating a stir.

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The sheriff did not respond to her request for comment.

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Gonsalves's daughter, Kaylee Gonsalves, was found dead alongside her lifelong

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best friend and housemate Matt Mogan, in the latter's third

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floor bedroom at their rental house on King Road, just

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steps off the college campus. On the second floor, police

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found their housemate, Xana Kernodle and her boyfriend Ethan Shapin,

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and all four had been stabbed to death according to

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the county coroner. And in the wake of the coroner

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coming out and talking about what happened, there was some

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thought that the coroner was giving more information than they

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should have been giving, and the same was said about

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the autopsy. So there has been a lot of contention

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from the very beginning when it comes to Brian Colberger

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and it comes to this case. We know that Steve Gonsalvez,

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the father of Kaylee, has had a contentious relationship with

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the authorities in Moscow from the very beginning, and that

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doesn't seem like it has changed throughout this whole entire investigation.

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Coburger has been held without bail at the Latah County

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Jail in Moscow, Idaho, since January, and now that he

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Wai is right to a speedy trial, that stay is

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certainly going to be extended because we're going to have

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a ways to go here as they figure everything out,

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as we move forward to try and get to a

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destination that includes a concrete trial day, and all of

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that is going to hinge on the decisions made by

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Judge Judge in these upcoming hearings. So we know that

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the hearing on Friday was postponed, and it was postponed

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because there was an illness. Now we still haven't heard

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anything about that illness as far as who was sick

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or what led to this getting postponed, but one thing's

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for sure, somebody was sick. And because of that, the

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proceedings have now been delayed until October twenty sixth. And

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even though it's delayed, that doesn't mean that other things

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aren't happening. It's just that set of proceedings and that

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hearing for those certain arguments. Other things are happening behind

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the scenes, and there's certainly other arguments being heard by

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the judge. And that's why it's so important to stay

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one step ahead with those court documents and trying to

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stay on top of them, because they provide us with

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a blueprint in a case with a lot of secrecy.

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So if you stay on top of those court documents,

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you can really keep an eye on what's going on

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as far as which way things are trending and what

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to expect inside of the courtroom. Now, it's not a

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full on look behind the curtain, but it certainly offers

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us a blueprint to follow along with. And I'll tell

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you what, it has been a very valuable tool to

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help keep things in perspective here as far as the

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investigation and as long as that gag order remains over

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this case, the court documents will continue to provide a

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blueprint to what's going on behind the scenes. And you

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can guarantee that we're going to continue to dive into

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those cored documents as they come out. As far as

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Coburger being an insel, look, your guess is as good

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as mine. I don't know. I'm not a psychologist. I've

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never sat down with the dude, never talked to him.

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But all of the signs are there. And if everybody

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keeps telling us that he is, the people that knew him,

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and especially when you roll that all up with what

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he's accused of, I would say that there's a good

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possibility that psychologically speaking, Brian Kohberger could be classified as

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an insul. One thing I can guarantee you is that

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he's a suspected murderer and he's going to face twelve

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jurors for his alleged crimes, and we're gonna be there

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every step of the way. All right, folks, that's gonna

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do it for this one. If you'd like to contact me,

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you can do that at Bobby Kopuchi at ProtonMail dot com.

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That's bo b b Y c apu Cci at proton

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