Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. One
thing that has remained constant since Brian Koberger's arrest is
that when people talk about their relationship with Coburger in
the past, they all say the same stuff when it
comes to his feelings about women. And now, in a
new episode of Fox Nation, there's a friend of Brian
Coberger's who's dropping a dime on Coburger's behavior from the
time when this friend used to hang out with him.
So let's just dive right into this article from Fox
News and let's see what this friend of Brian Coberger's
has to say. Headlined Brian Koberger's former friend speaks out,
tells Fox Nation murder suspect was frustrated towards women. Brian
Koberger's middle school friend describes his frustrated feelings towards women,
tendency to get aggressive when drunk. This article authored by
Amanda Kopelli, and all of that tracks with what we
have learned previously, and when you look at the profile
overall of Brian Coberger, it certainly does seem that he
has problems with women. When you listen to what his
students had to say, then you hear all these different
stories from all the people that have known him throughout
his life, what other conclusion are we to come to?
Trials don't always dive into the psychology of what makes
a killer a killer. Now, former prosecutor and crime expert
Nancy Grace aims to discover who Idaho murder suspect Brian
Coberger really is in her new Fox Nation special. Brian Koberger,
I am blank. Now, look, I'm not a gigantic fan
of Nancy Grace at all, and a lot of that
for me has to do with the whole Top Mom stuff.
But what I will say is she does dig into
some of these topics and get some information that we
might not have had otherwise. So I'll definitely tip my
cap to her for that. But the whole entire Top
Mom ordeal turn me off to Nancy Grace and her programming.
Nancy Grace revisited Coburger's middle school days and the Nancy
Grace Investigates exclusive during which guests from the Idaho quadruple
murder suspects passed sit down on camera for the first time.
And it's always good to get some insight from people
who knew Brian Coberger or anybody that we're talking about,
because it helps provide more context to the situation overall,
and for me, context is the key. How are you
going to understand any of this stuff if it's out
of context. Coberger's former friend Jack Bayliss told Fox Nation
that the two would often discuss women and how they
felt frustrated with the dating scene. Bayless said women would
ghost them, an online phenomenon where users are ignored with
little to no explanation. Well, you have to actually be
talking to somebody before they ghost you. And I'm guessing
most women that Brian Coberger was contacting, we're not swiping right.
Clinical police and forensic psychologist doctor Chris Mohandi weighs in,
explaining that frustration is a common feeling for in cels
or involuntary celibate, often online young men. And there's been
a lot of talk about Coburger being an in cell.
And when you read all these accounts and you hear
from all these people that knew them, and you hear
about how much he disdained women, or at the very
least dislike them, What are we supposed to think? What
are we supposed to take from that? And then to
find out all these years later that he's alleged to
have killed three women and one man. Yeah, I would
say that where there's some smoke, there's probably some fire.
Three of the four victims that Coburger allegedly killed were women.
All were University of Idaho students stabbed to death. In
November of twenty twenty two, Coburger was arrested on four
accounts of first degree murder and one out of felony
burglary while studying toward a PhD in criminology. And of course,
the fact that he was an educated guy who was
studying for his PhD has just added to the mystery
surrounding this whole entire thing. Why would a guy that's
at this level and almost achieving his dreams do something
like this? That's the question that I think everybody once answered,
Why did this happen? Coberger's trial is on pause after
attorneys waved his right to a speedy trial. They said
they needed more time to create a defense. The Fox
Nation special also shows that Coburger would message his friend
that he's been depressed for so long he developed a
weird sense of meaning. The friend also offered that Coburger
would get aggressive when drunk, and that his friends would
have to hide his car keys. Additionally, Bayliss suggested Coburger
would do other sketchy drugs. Now we know that he
had a heroin addiction and allegedly he kicked that heroin
addiction previously, but other sketchy drugs we really haven't heard
too much about that. Coberger reportedly kicked a heroin addiction
before pursuing his criminal justice degree. He also faced charges
in twenty fourteen for trying to sell his sister's iPhone
allegedly while abusing heroin at just nineteen years old. And
that's a pretty common thing to occur. Somebody has a
drug addiction, they're living with, their family or whoever. They'll
steal something and try and sell it to get those drugs.
And it doesn't matter that it's a family member or
somebody that they love. The drugs are that powerful. Despite
the revelations, Nancy Grace told America's newsroom Tuesday that any
alleged alcohol or drug use will likely not be used
as a defense in his trial. Now, why would it, Oh,
he was drunk at the time, So what nobody told
him to drink that beer? Oh? He was high at
the time, so what nobody told him to shoot heroin?
So that as a defense is ridiculed on its one.
Victim's father, Steve Gonsalvis, told Fox News Digital last week
that Coburger is receiving special treatment in jail. He said,
I've been informed that his pre trial privileges, like his
five suits, video and computer special treatment and his vegan
meals are unprecedented in the history of Idaho. And we've
heard reports obviously now from the Sheriff's office in News
Nation that said that those reports about Coburger getting special
treatment are untrue. And obviously I can't confirm one way
or the other who's telling the truth here, but my
guess is it's somewhere in the middle. This is such
a high profile case that the state of Idaho and
the prison system in Idaho, they don't want to take
the chance of causing an issue or creating a stir.
The sheriff did not respond to her request for comment.
Gonsalves's daughter, Kaylee Gonsalves, was found dead alongside her lifelong
best friend and housemate Matt Mogan, in the latter's third
floor bedroom at their rental house on King Road, just
steps off the college campus. On the second floor, police
found their housemate, Xana Kernodle and her boyfriend Ethan Shapin,
and all four had been stabbed to death according to
the county coroner. And in the wake of the coroner
coming out and talking about what happened, there was some
thought that the coroner was giving more information than they
should have been giving, and the same was said about
the autopsy. So there has been a lot of contention
from the very beginning when it comes to Brian Colberger
and it comes to this case. We know that Steve Gonsalvez,
the father of Kaylee, has had a contentious relationship with
the authorities in Moscow from the very beginning, and that
doesn't seem like it has changed throughout this whole entire investigation.
Coburger has been held without bail at the Latah County
Jail in Moscow, Idaho, since January, and now that he
Wai is right to a speedy trial, that stay is
certainly going to be extended because we're going to have
a ways to go here as they figure everything out,
as we move forward to try and get to a
destination that includes a concrete trial day, and all of
that is going to hinge on the decisions made by
Judge Judge in these upcoming hearings. So we know that
the hearing on Friday was postponed, and it was postponed
because there was an illness. Now we still haven't heard
anything about that illness as far as who was sick
or what led to this getting postponed, but one thing's
for sure, somebody was sick. And because of that, the
proceedings have now been delayed until October twenty sixth. And
even though it's delayed, that doesn't mean that other things
aren't happening. It's just that set of proceedings and that
hearing for those certain arguments. Other things are happening behind
the scenes, and there's certainly other arguments being heard by
the judge. And that's why it's so important to stay
one step ahead with those court documents and trying to
stay on top of them, because they provide us with
a blueprint in a case with a lot of secrecy.
So if you stay on top of those court documents,
you can really keep an eye on what's going on
as far as which way things are trending and what
to expect inside of the courtroom. Now, it's not a
full on look behind the curtain, but it certainly offers
us a blueprint to follow along with. And I'll tell
you what, it has been a very valuable tool to
help keep things in perspective here as far as the
investigation and as long as that gag order remains over
this case, the court documents will continue to provide a
blueprint to what's going on behind the scenes. And you
can guarantee that we're going to continue to dive into
those cored documents as they come out. As far as
Coburger being an insel, look, your guess is as good
as mine. I don't know. I'm not a psychologist. I've
never sat down with the dude, never talked to him.
But all of the signs are there. And if everybody
keeps telling us that he is, the people that knew him,
and especially when you roll that all up with what
he's accused of, I would say that there's a good
possibility that psychologically speaking, Brian Kohberger could be classified as
an insul. One thing I can guarantee you is that
he's a suspected murderer and he's going to face twelve
jurors for his alleged crimes, and we're gonna be there
every step of the way. All right, folks, that's gonna
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