Speaker 1: It's not really at Hello, ladies, gentlemen, welcome back to
Speaker 1: your first episode of the Gimmick this weekend. I am,
Speaker 1: as usual, like an Indian nightmare, and I'm joined by
Speaker 1: is He nameless?
Speaker 2: No no nickname. I hadn't thought. I was trying to
Speaker 2: think of one, but I don't know. I just wanted
Speaker 2: the classic no nickname, no full background.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought it was gonna happen. But yeah,
Speaker 1: here we are to catch up on some stuff because
Speaker 1: it's been a little bit. But we said we're gonna
Speaker 1: do this because we knew we had a two parter
Speaker 1: coming up. So yeah, we got today and then tomorrow
Speaker 1: we should be joined by Dave for Summer Slim Night too.
Speaker 1: Maybe that will just be that this show cover. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do Summer Slim Night one first, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about some other general wwnaw news stuff that's
Speaker 1: happened throughout, maybe free agency stuff on raw stuff on
Speaker 1: leading out all in, and then the next one. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure when, because I know all On is the.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty ninth. I think, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So well, and that one, I think we'll probably go
Speaker 1: a love after because there's like ten am my time.
Speaker 1: So that's an early enough show, so we'll probably maybe
Speaker 1: do one more. We might do one maybe the twenty second,
Speaker 1: twenty three's somewhere in there because we don't got the
Speaker 1: full card yet there, so we'll wait to them. What's
Speaker 1: what's the next FED pay.
Speaker 2: Per views September? There's well, the interesting is there's the
Speaker 2: next like main roster Main Roster one would be money
Speaker 2: in the Bank in October really, But the thing is
Speaker 2: that the like the Triple A World's Collide. Usually they
Speaker 2: just advertise it like NXT Triple A World's Collide. This
Speaker 2: one is like w W Triple A World's Collide, and
Speaker 2: it's booked in All State Arena, So I think that's
Speaker 2: gonna be like a pseudo Maine Roster. Like I think
Speaker 2: Punk's gonna like be on that show and stuff.
Speaker 1: Is that the one that they have the same day
Speaker 1: as all In all Out?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: For all Yeah, all In. They don't have anything all Out.
Speaker 2: All In, they have an they have an NXT one,
Speaker 2: but all Out it's like that one because all Out
Speaker 2: there in the same city too, like they're in Chicago too,
Speaker 2: Oh the best, but they're both sill in Wells. You
Speaker 2: know the Triple A. They have fans aws fans, Like
Speaker 2: I think right now they're both at like listen, they're
Speaker 2: both at like seven thousand tickets with like no matches announced.
Speaker 2: So you know, Chicago, Like people people joke about going
Speaker 2: to Chicago like all the time, but I mean people
Speaker 2: will show up to the to the shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely like I know people are always like, oh,
Speaker 1: New York, but like Chicago was still to me the
Speaker 1: wrestling city in North America, you know, Like I think
Speaker 1: for a while, w and especially AW ran dry for
Speaker 1: a bit, but I think now it's like, Okay, we've
Speaker 1: had some breaks, but tonight we're gonna start off with
Speaker 1: SummerSlam Night one. S Bubbs, what did you think of
Speaker 1: the show? Six matches? That's all I got?
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, overall, I thought it was a good show.
Speaker 2: I thought it was definitely just comparing to like the
Speaker 2: last big show being WrestleMania. I mean, I definitely thought
Speaker 2: it was better than that, even like not just in
Speaker 2: the matches, but just the pacing overall. Like I thought
Speaker 2: all the matches got like a good amount of time,
Speaker 2: Like there was no match where like I thought, like
Speaker 2: is way too short or like time got cut or
Speaker 2: something for someone. I thought all of them had a
Speaker 2: good amount of time. It all flowed pretty well, like
Speaker 2: they're still ads and stuff, but now didn't feel like WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: There was just like you didn't get like the Hogan
Speaker 2: Netflix had like seven times in a row like forgot it.
Speaker 1: I thought it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but yeah, I thought this show. It was
Speaker 2: a fun time. I liked it starting early and ending
Speaker 2: like I think it was pretty much like three hours
Speaker 2: on the dot. I'd say, if you don't count like
Speaker 2: Rocks promo, probably i'd say the bell for for the
Speaker 2: Cell match ended like pretty much three hours in, so
Speaker 2: I mean it does show they can do, you know,
Speaker 2: six match cards in three hours was still you know,
Speaker 2: putting their ads in there. So yeah, overall, I don't
Speaker 2: know what like a star rating if I had to
Speaker 2: give to the show, maybe for the whole show, i'd
Speaker 2: give it like a three point five or three point
Speaker 2: seven five. Like I thought it was a good enough time.
Speaker 1: I feel like you since I feel like I have
Speaker 1: this reputation of talking some negatively in reviews and then
Speaker 1: something like yeah, but you gave spending Randow Day and
Speaker 1: nine the most of your overalls negatives like yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just being double advocate. And then when you're talking like oh,
Speaker 1: this sounds like it's gonna be like a four or something,
Speaker 1: it's still like in the underflom.
Speaker 2: I always I get. I get like that's the same
Speaker 2: for like, like for on Letterbox, like my most watched
Speaker 2: score is like there's like three point five and four.
Speaker 2: Like to me, it's like to me like four is
Speaker 2: like a good solid time and anything above that is
Speaker 2: like extra special stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm a fiend it's five, but I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a big person that just rewatches the five.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, Like I pretty much don't really rewatch,
Speaker 2: Like it's almost all a new stuff for me on
Speaker 2: on letter Rocks and even like on on drop Kip Kip,
Speaker 2: if you're looking at that too, Like I get a
Speaker 2: lot of like fours and three point seventy fives on
Speaker 2: drop Kick.
Speaker 1: I think Dropkick, I'm definitely on the on the four
Speaker 1: range there because it's like five or like anding for
Speaker 1: like big star matches, I feel like the four point
Speaker 1: seven five.
Speaker 2: Is, Yeah, that's a good one too. Like I dropped
Speaker 2: one of those recently where it's like, to me, four
Speaker 2: point seven fives, like everything went like perfectly, but like
Speaker 2: they was just missing something like either like the story
Speaker 2: or like an emotion or something like four point five.
Speaker 2: If you give that, that could be like like then
Speaker 2: like everything went perfectly well as an awesome match, but
Speaker 2: it was just missing like or maybe I personally didn't
Speaker 2: have like the kind of like like for example, for me,
Speaker 2: like Mox versus Hangman, like the Texas Death Match, that's
Speaker 2: like a four point seven five for me because I
Speaker 2: thought it was like a really cool, awesome match, but
Speaker 2: like I didn't really care about like the Hangman's story.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's where we've said this before. By
Speaker 1: gree Kay wish letter Box had the point.
Speaker 2: Five Yeah, movies, I'd definitely be using that on letters Yeah,
Speaker 2: especially I feel this year I've had a lot of
Speaker 2: movies where it's like I'm giving this like a four,
Speaker 2: but it's not like a true four three, you know,
Speaker 2: because if I give, I give the higher now and
Speaker 2: then the review all right, like this would be like
Speaker 2: a three point Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did the same thing with Sperman and something else
Speaker 1: recently too, where it's like technically it'd be more around here,
Speaker 1: but you know, let's do the four point seventy five.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so I thought this was kind of
Speaker 1: like a mixed bag sture like it. Luckily I agree
Speaker 1: with you because I had to do a flashback of
Speaker 1: definitely not wrestling any night one because I pulled up
Speaker 1: that card of Jacob A Drew, which was fine, and
Speaker 1: then Helen Night and USO is funny enough to being
Speaker 1: logan pretty much just the vision you know going on
Speaker 1: there Paige and Brie when the take titles Becky and
Speaker 1: aj which was fine good there and Seth which was
Speaker 1: good until the ending, and then you got lived in
Speaker 1: Sephanie and Cody and Randy, so definitely better than that.
Speaker 1: I think for me, we're gonna get too. But I
Speaker 1: think if one match in particular really delivered, I would
Speaker 1: have been much more higher on this, and it didn't.
Speaker 1: For kind of a multitude of reasons, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think pacing wasn't too bad. Didn't feel like a
Speaker 1: slog of a show, which sometimes with the ads that
Speaker 1: can like it's funny, aw can feel like a slog
Speaker 1: because there's too many matches. Then w you can feel
Speaker 1: like a slog when it's like you got those fifteen
Speaker 1: the ten minutes in between matches and you're just sitting around. Luckily,
Speaker 1: now I've really gotten the routine of Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get up. I kind of know, like before when Punk
Speaker 1: and Cody ended, all right, I'm taking the dog out
Speaker 1: because I have time. I know, time to come back
Speaker 1: and the match will still be like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do the same, Like even for a W two,
Speaker 2: Like if I am watching like one of the full
Speaker 2: pay per views live, like there will be matches where
Speaker 2: it's just like I'm just not gonna watch this and
Speaker 2: do something else and then come back and keep watching. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the same for the AD's like I'll just you know,
Speaker 2: take the break and stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, no, it's like the glomeration like I
Speaker 1: watched like half watch that it's like I don't need
Speaker 1: Luckily they lost and we'll get there later on the show.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, Huntering, you will get to your questions.
Speaker 1: Dave says, have a great show, can't wait to join tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get your thoughts at night one and then day
Speaker 1: will be on tomorrow. So yeah, I thought it was
Speaker 1: like a mixed bag. I thought Live and You actually
Speaker 1: really delivered when it started, eh. I thought the six
Speaker 1: Man was actually kind of fun. It was a good time.
Speaker 1: I am because I'm not watching too much weekly TV.
Speaker 1: We everyone said that for years Solo being the way
Speaker 1: he is is great, and then I, for me, it's
Speaker 1: like the last dude that just didn't really deliver. I
Speaker 1: didn't have the same fun that you did with the
Speaker 1: main event. I just like it's just it's like you said,
Speaker 1: it's what I expected. But I guess I was just
Speaker 1: hoping for a little bit more and I just I
Speaker 1: didn't really get there. Man, I just need to be
Speaker 1: done with the whole. Like, you know, oh, I like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you saw this update Nick All
Speaker 1: this handing in his resignation letter SmackDown GM. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get there, you know.
Speaker 2: Well he technically like like part of the story was
Speaker 2: like if you wanted to like sign as a as
Speaker 2: a wrestler. Yeah, it was like if you wanted to
Speaker 2: sign as a wrestler, he needed to like sign over
Speaker 2: his his GM. Like that was like two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Well that's how much Tribe tripped it up and told
Speaker 1: all this, he's reinstated. They I've got some things. The
Speaker 1: men don't get back to work. I guess the match
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough to get you back on the main
Speaker 1: Ross Kid, and that's why I didn't know what we
Speaker 1: got that I knew.
Speaker 2: I knew it was only gonna be one match because
Speaker 2: immediately like after the match ended, Cole on commentary was like,
Speaker 2: all this told me like this was his one shot
Speaker 2: and to this like it was like, this is a
Speaker 2: one time thing. Pretty much is what I understood.
Speaker 1: I missed that. That sucks for him, but you know,
Speaker 1: at least at least he got it there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so I I thought the show was fine. I thought
Speaker 1: it was fine. I'm really scared for tomorrow because I
Speaker 1: think tomorrow has a terroristic card like between the Dan
Speaker 1: House the match between Baron fucking we have done a
Speaker 1: gaming since the Barrek Horbyn's back and the secondies back,
Speaker 1: he gets a main roster pe. I know it's two nights,
Speaker 1: but still only twelve matches. It's like, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: And even the main event Seth and Roman, I do
Speaker 1: trust them, but it could go multiple ways. So I
Speaker 1: thought tonight was just fine, we'll break it down match
Speaker 1: by match, but let's get to live and EO. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Live for Tans, which you and me were surprised
Speaker 1: to do a full I think we predicted, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, like an early card, and
Speaker 1: I can't remember what I said them, but I thought
Speaker 1: it was happening because I just didn't know who Live
Speaker 1: was gonna work with. And honestly, I thought liv was
Speaker 1: looking a little like upset, which I the only reason
Speaker 1: I say that is because the night she won money
Speaker 1: of the bank, if you go back and watch that show,
Speaker 1: when she comes out, this woman's practically in tears, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, she's winning money in the bank. So
Speaker 1: maybe you know the acting it's paying off. But to me,
Speaker 1: for some reason, she walked in like she looks.
Speaker 2: There's There's definitely been a few times like oh last year,
Speaker 2: even in like other discords something where people are like
Speaker 2: oh boo boom face, like they're losing. Then they just win,
Speaker 2: like I remember, like well I remember, like I think
Speaker 2: the the Tiffany and Charlotte like WrestleMania match, people were like, oh,
Speaker 2: Tiffany's got a boooo face like Charlotte. Charlotte made the
Speaker 2: call she's going over and then yeah, she just lose there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, sometimes you can't tell. I mean sometimes they're
Speaker 2: just you know, they're they're locked in or something.
Speaker 1: You can't and then maybe, uh maybe they know that
Speaker 1: on purpose.
Speaker 2: Now it's like uh yeah, rememverse acting there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you think of this match?
Speaker 2: No, I thought this was a really fun time. I
Speaker 2: thought it was you know, very go go go, which
Speaker 2: is different, like they're Saudi match like the Night of
Speaker 2: Champions one. How is it like a huge fan of
Speaker 2: like I could tell what they were going for because
Speaker 2: the whole thing was like like Live had gotten to
Speaker 2: the final by beating Charlotte with like a submission on
Speaker 2: the legs. Then the whole match with EO was like
Speaker 2: working over the leg and selling that and just going
Speaker 2: for the submission over and over and like I do
Speaker 2: like those kinds of matches, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: it feels like those matches you really need like the
Speaker 2: audience to get into it or else it's just kind
Speaker 2: of feels like they're just like sitting there, you know,
Speaker 2: putting the submission on for a while. This one wasn't that.
Speaker 2: But honestly, I thought the audience really got into it
Speaker 2: and it was just you know, them doing their moves,
Speaker 2: going at a high speed. Really like no, downtime. I
Speaker 2: really thought like they would do like, you know, like
Speaker 2: the moon salt to the outside like onto Riquel and Roxanne.
Speaker 2: A lot of times like that happens and then they're
Speaker 2: down and like slowly get back into the ring and
Speaker 2: then something happens and then they fall down like this
Speaker 2: one was like EO did that moon salt golf back
Speaker 2: in and then they got right back to doing moves
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I thought this was this
Speaker 2: was a fun time. Definitely their best match they've They've
Speaker 2: had some other good ones, but I'd say it definitely
Speaker 2: delivered in in what I wanted.
Speaker 1: At least, no one was getting up from four to
Speaker 1: fifties right away.
Speaker 2: You know, well there is, Well i'll go into it.
Speaker 2: So someone else on the show did that spot, but
Speaker 2: the correct version.
Speaker 1: On this show or yeah, on this.
Speaker 2: Show someone did like what Mox probably should have done
Speaker 2: or maybe what he was trying to do. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: he did it to the back because Max, like he
Speaker 2: rolls in and he was looking enough, it should have
Speaker 2: just been to the back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, no, we'll get there. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: was worried the first few minutes. It just felt like
Speaker 1: it was like, uh, I think everyone that watches wrestling
Speaker 1: knows the difference. If not, I guess I'll try to explain,
Speaker 1: but everyone knows the difference between like a pay per
Speaker 1: view match and a TV match.
Speaker 2: I agree. When she like put her in the corner
Speaker 2: and was just like hitting her and just kind of
Speaker 2: like doing like the walk around the ring, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: this could be this would be a slow one.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm like, we're opening up with this
Speaker 1: and this is the way they're going. And that's only
Speaker 1: like the first like mid and a half two minutes
Speaker 1: right like, even though it's just like they're feeling O up,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, how is this gonna go? And then
Speaker 1: also because the last match didn't go, maybe the grades
Speaker 1: like Okay, what's gonna happen? So that's why I did
Speaker 1: Another reason I thought Live was losing because I thought,
Speaker 1: if this match is all right, that's a moment right
Speaker 1: for EO to win get the w and then she
Speaker 1: goes on to fight a bunch of new people. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it really did pick up. I thought they used the
Speaker 1: interference spot right here because people know, like I go
Speaker 1: back on forth on those and we'll get the one
Speaker 1: later that I absolutely hated, But no, I thought the
Speaker 1: match was really good and they had some good brutal spots.
Speaker 1: That combo of Eo Germany her on the scythe the ring,
Speaker 1: and then they're calling it the train or what is
Speaker 1: it the bullet train.
Speaker 2: The bullet train.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have they always called it that or is that now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, They've always called it that, And I'm.
Speaker 1: Just fucking deaf because I've never heard of that. But
Speaker 1: she did it to the inside. But then when she
Speaker 1: did on the outside, the.
Speaker 2: Noise was nasty, like that smack against the like the
Speaker 2: poll the led full.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great a sound effect, and I thought that
Speaker 1: was the end. I thought, Okay, boom, she goes in roll.
Speaker 2: She actually did that on this raw like when they
Speaker 2: were brawling, like she did that, but then she was
Speaker 2: like selling the knee like it was like she got
Speaker 2: injured off of it. So I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: they're just gonna work the knee over the whole match
Speaker 2: again at SummerSlam, because like that was like they were
Speaker 2: brawling and like live was on the apron. Then Eo
Speaker 2: did that like that exact same spot, even though I
Speaker 2: think honestly it sounded even louder at summer slams, so
Speaker 2: it must have done something different. But yeah, that was
Speaker 2: a great spot.
Speaker 1: Outside arenas, you never know, right, they can kind of
Speaker 1: mute some of the sown. So no, I thought it
Speaker 1: was really good. Like you said, it was a go
Speaker 1: go style type of match, but a good one that
Speaker 1: can be obviously what we were just me mom with
Speaker 1: the Bucks match, that like there's good version. That's some
Speaker 1: bad versions, and even the Bucks match, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's all bad that sequence. I agree with people.
Speaker 1: I know the tweet that said garbage was training, I
Speaker 1: never tell that spot. I agree it was like really egregious.
Speaker 1: So that's where that's a problem, right, because I don't
Speaker 1: think some of those wrestlers are meaning to like not
Speaker 1: even sell that, right. It's just that they they want
Speaker 1: to do this school sequence, but they maybe just don't cluck.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I should just give that like ten more
Speaker 1: seconds worth.
Speaker 2: I'll say. The page and Bellizer's fatal inference was like
Speaker 2: a not good version of a Bucks type of match
Speaker 2: where it's like you don't know who's tagged in, like
Speaker 2: everyone's just like doing their moves and running around.
Speaker 1: That's what was for me the show that last three match,
Speaker 1: Shret's just really like sunk with me. I sent that
Speaker 1: joker discord that was me. I was just like, what's
Speaker 1: going on here? You know it's not all bad, but
Speaker 1: so no, I'm interested what happens. I'm interesting what happens
Speaker 1: with them both, because David asked that and they discord.
Speaker 1: I think EO could probably drop to a round I
Speaker 1: see because Raquel has which I don't really understand why.
Speaker 1: I know Rakel's putting in some hard work, but it
Speaker 1: just seems I guess it's just even odd to have
Speaker 1: on a random raw. But hey, it's just like, aw right,
Speaker 1: you gotta have some big TV stuff going on, so
Speaker 1: I get to that point live. I am very curious
Speaker 1: because it's just been such a I felt like people
Speaker 1: will understand this. I've been watching since like the two
Speaker 1: thousands where Randy Orton he's got like multiple pushes before
Speaker 1: it became like a guy, right, and liv had won
Speaker 1: the world title already twice now, right, and even the
Speaker 1: Ria Domfu that did Elevator, But it felt like at
Speaker 1: Wrestlemine like, hey, we want Elevator to be one of
Speaker 1: the like tippy top girls, right, and I think they
Speaker 1: are women, I'll say, and I think they want her
Speaker 1: to be that, but it just hasn't had that vibe.
Speaker 1: And whether it's just the and this was a still
Speaker 1: good match, but whether it's the lack of story or
Speaker 1: the booking, I don't think it's on Live because I
Speaker 1: think Live showed here again. She's working with EO, who's fantastic, right,
Speaker 1: she's fucking aj Styles Danner, Brian Kurt Angle Codd as
Speaker 1: far as like have a good match with the broomstick.
Speaker 1: But still, I've been a big defender of Live, like
Speaker 1: she can go in there and have a really good match,
Speaker 1: And for me, this was the best matches of the show.
Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed it. So that's why we live.
Speaker 1: She can have the ring style to back it out.
Speaker 1: But oh my god, my sister just texts me they're
Speaker 1: watching Spider Man Brand New day the power went out.
Speaker 1: S bub Oh my god, cause I got the notifications there.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, that sucks.
Speaker 2: They at least like just or like halfway through.
Speaker 1: I don't know much to cry emojis, so I don't know,
Speaker 1: like geez oh no, it's only a little bit of
Speaker 1: the beginning.
Speaker 2: So that's not too too terrible, but.
Speaker 1: It's like to get those seats again. That's because she
Speaker 1: had to sit in the very back row. She called
Speaker 1: me yesterday, shit, can we like she went to the
Speaker 1: extreme screen and clunch it. Can we sit in the
Speaker 1: back like no, no, You'll be fine. Damn that sucks,
Speaker 1: but live like yeah, she can go. Sen's the way
Speaker 1: she's just like I understand. The rumor was, hey, she's
Speaker 1: doing more stuff with Stephanie. Stephanie was hurt and then
Speaker 1: Visa stuff and that's delated. But these writers got to
Speaker 1: figure out something for her to do in the meantime,
Speaker 1: and they need they need some juice and even the
Speaker 1: EO stuff, I don't know from what I saw, I
Speaker 1: don't think it was much of a big story other
Speaker 1: than just EO's coming for the title, right, I think
Speaker 1: we need.
Speaker 2: Something yet personal story, and I.
Speaker 1: Think we do, Like I don't know where it would fit,
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know that you can't take away
Speaker 1: from Judgment Day right now because that group's too weak.
Speaker 1: I think that is a story in the future with
Speaker 1: her and Rocks and there's some meat on the bone there,
Speaker 1: but she just needs somebody. It's just so funny where
Speaker 1: people kind of got sick of her and and how
Speaker 1: Ria's gone. It is like, well what do you do? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you do? And absolutely Vincent like come along
Speaker 1: with the riot squad, not even the riot squad, go
Speaker 1: to NXT when she was like yea ya yoh yeah
Speaker 1: yo goo, when she was like the queen from San
Speaker 1: Island whatever, she had like the overalls and everyone just
Speaker 1: called her discount. Alexa Bliss. Absolutely, It's just that it
Speaker 1: felt like this run was gonna be Cementa as the Melt,
Speaker 1: like one of the top ones right now currently, and
Speaker 1: it just hasn't done that. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: it can be on RAW. I don't know. If you
Speaker 1: bring back Becky and you heat her back up as
Speaker 1: a baby face, I would.
Speaker 2: Say I think they could put her with with Soul next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you how sold awesome?
Speaker 2: I think there's a chance they like give Soul money
Speaker 2: in the banks and then that match wouldn't happened for
Speaker 2: like six months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like a prime contender for money the bank.
Speaker 2: She's like on the on the post that doesn't mean anything,
Speaker 2: but she's like the main one on the posters like
Speaker 2: her on on a ladder and thin it's her Penta
Speaker 2: and EO. I think it.
Speaker 1: Does your man Penta versus Roman or bens Obame.
Speaker 2: I mean, if money in the Bank was before like
Speaker 2: all the Mexico shows, I would have say, like give
Speaker 2: them the money in the bank and just like haven't
Speaker 2: cash in there like like Raw Van Damn Eco you style.
Speaker 1: So if you think Soul Match could be a little
Speaker 1: bit way, what do you think is next for Live?
Speaker 2: Well? I do think. I mean, I think Stephanie might
Speaker 2: actually finally be coming back because she has been like training,
Speaker 2: so it's not that she's injured anymore, and she has
Speaker 2: been in the States and stuff, so it's not the
Speaker 2: visa issues or anything anymore. And apparently like on social media,
Speaker 2: like after Live retained, she like blacked out all her
Speaker 2: like social media's like Stephanie did or something like that.
Speaker 2: So I think she could be shown back up again.
Speaker 2: So then obviously that would be the next thing. But
Speaker 2: let's say if not, then I mean the thing is
Speaker 2: that there's not really like any babyfaces like on the
Speaker 2: Raw roster pretty much, it's only like Soul EO Bailey.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the reason because it's just like she has
Speaker 1: more people to work with, right but yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: there's always people you could call up to or like
Speaker 1: swap brands or something, but yeah, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I guess there's Bailey, but I think
Speaker 1: Bailey's hopefully on her way out. Oscar's gone. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this right now, Becky is somewhere and I just
Speaker 1: don't see. Do you think what Becky comes back, You're
Speaker 1: still just gotta be doing her heel gimmick.
Speaker 2: I don't know, she could just come back as a
Speaker 2: as a face. I feel like like to just like
Speaker 2: not explain anything.
Speaker 1: But it is only like Stephanie and Soul for the
Speaker 1: women's babyface people. Yeah you have her work with like
Speaker 1: you know, just happened, but like they need yeah, they
Speaker 1: need to get somebody over there, stat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think even like because Lolavice is like
Speaker 2: rumored to be like the next call up, but she's
Speaker 2: most like going to SmackDown.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, ye did I see there? Did they did?
Speaker 1: Priests and Truth win? Did the match interrupted? What happened
Speaker 1: with that multi tag title match?
Speaker 2: They were fighting? And I didn't watch the match, but
Speaker 2: I read that it was no contest, so either they
Speaker 2: got de cued or Haku and the MFTs beat them up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was looking at it like not that
Speaker 1: it's a big thing that like, man, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: double champs over there, that's that's crazy. So but no,
Speaker 1: I I hope they give something because I just think
Speaker 1: that Live's title run right now is at the risk
Speaker 1: of being very forgotten in the future, right and it's
Speaker 1: not gonna feel it's gonna feel like unfortunately a lot
Speaker 1: of like Natty's title wins, where she's won the title
Speaker 1: multiple times, but you can't name a run and even
Speaker 1: the Rea liver Roun you can name it because that storyline.
Speaker 1: But then after that that that's kind of it, right,
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll go from there and see. After that,
Speaker 1: we had the six Men tag of the most random
Speaker 1: GMO tin of Royce, keys La Night and the News
Speaker 1: versus the Bloodline with Jacob Fatu. I guess he's just
Speaker 1: a part of the Bloodline, but I feel like he's
Speaker 1: still a step above. I came up with some Eda
Speaker 1: Gears of War here. I guess like.
Speaker 2: You were, did you get scared off that cologna warning
Speaker 2: you know on your screen?
Speaker 1: I did. The only reason it was I caught.
Speaker 2: I only remembered because like didn't like Taylor mention that
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, I remember I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is a Gears of War thing the cologne up but
Speaker 2: spelled differently same.
Speaker 1: Thing because me and we were seeing the cologne and
Speaker 1: like Rite explained some Gears of War and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: like Jaco was looking cool, but it was just had
Speaker 1: like some logos on their black gears.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just have like their like you know, like
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen like SmackDown gear, like dreaming with this hat
Speaker 2: and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And even though I'll say this, even though the stage
Speaker 1: was just like a big led stage, I love how
Speaker 1: massive it was and like Obvisos they had the room
Speaker 1: because like it wasn't like a complete sell up, but
Speaker 1: I liked the big design of it had like a big.
Speaker 2: It kind of looked to me like a chimp, like
Speaker 2: an upside on WW Champs ship. Okay, yeah, like the
Speaker 2: lines and stuff and it was kind of like shaped
Speaker 2: like that. But I don't really know what the design was,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I agree it cool and it had like a.
Speaker 1: That was like when people are yeah whatever, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a cool design. Yeah, god, ra I was just
Speaker 1: seeing Funk on the post show, he's talking about all
Speaker 1: these people and he's saying that he's gonna go to
Speaker 1: a raw and wrestle because they need a ratings boost.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness.
Speaker 2: Well, you see the SmackDown ratings. They haven't gone down
Speaker 2: once Punk with a champion, you know, it.
Speaker 1: Is pretty funny. Now it's always tough, right because the
Speaker 1: raw ratings before WrestleMania, they're always gonna be a little.
Speaker 2: It also is I think also that like the World
Speaker 2: Cup ended like right when he became a champion. That's
Speaker 2: the reason too. Like like NXT and AW ratings have
Speaker 2: gone up like one hundred k or two hundred k
Speaker 2: like in the past couple of weeks, like just off
Speaker 2: the World Cup end.
Speaker 1: That that is too. But it is just like it's
Speaker 1: funny the coincidences of that and wrestlingia like the lead up.
Speaker 1: But still it's like punks there and then punks and
Speaker 1: smack Down. That's where it goes and again there there's
Speaker 1: we'll have to see when it settles down with no
Speaker 1: World Cup and then like for a little bit in
Speaker 1: the future, see what happens. You never know what numbers,
Speaker 1: but it even tickets I think tickets technically as We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens tomorrow. But at the time it was
Speaker 1: like Night one had more tickets sold than Night two,
Speaker 1: which is usually never the case in these situations. It's
Speaker 1: usually always Night too that has that. So Hey Funks
Speaker 1: still maybe the fucking needle mover, and he was we'll
Speaker 1: get there. But he said he was asked on this
Speaker 1: feels the main event. He said, of course I had
Speaker 1: feelings about it, but not one of these guys that
Speaker 1: has it in their contracts that I have to end
Speaker 1: the show. There's a main event, there's a match that
Speaker 1: goes last. It ain't it for me to decide. I'm
Speaker 1: too old for that. I'm gonna lay up my boots
Speaker 1: and beat somebody ass whether on first intermission. Seampunk is
Speaker 1: always an event, which is just so like, it's so funny,
Speaker 1: right because I heard cess quote last week. We said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, the last match of the weekend is the
Speaker 1: main event. But when they did the triple thread a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks like years go like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it is still a main event. It all depends what
Speaker 1: these fuckers are. If they're last, then it's the main event.
Speaker 1: If they're not last, well you know that's why there's
Speaker 1: two nights, so there's so much talent. I could be
Speaker 1: a main event. But the six Men tag was actually
Speaker 1: fun and like it's funny that we got two of
Speaker 1: them here. It was fun enough. It is this easy formula,
Speaker 1: like the solo stuff is great. Like I think there's
Speaker 1: some season going a little too hard, Like it seems
Speaker 1: like he's looking for the laugh almost every time, but
Speaker 1: people seem to like him. I'm very curious what his
Speaker 1: trajectory is. I'm not thinking world title, but I'm just
Speaker 1: I think he can be a great.
Speaker 2: I think him for him and La Knight, you know,
Speaker 2: get those were finally getting a tag title run. It's time,
Speaker 2: La Knight, you're the.
Speaker 1: Next one after Bailey goes. You gotta get out of
Speaker 1: their brother. But I thought this was fine. I think
Speaker 1: this will be more for as I thought. It was
Speaker 1: like above average fine. I think they were hitting at
Speaker 1: big time. It was mentioned like three times in commentary like, man,
Speaker 1: if they lose, what are they gonna do? The tribal chief,
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's gonna play into a big
Speaker 1: time where obviously I do think Roman's winning. Tomorrow they're
Speaker 1: gonna lose, and I'm there must be some family drama thereon,
Speaker 1: gonna bring up who's the weak link? And maybe that's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get back to fucking Roman versus Jay.
Speaker 1: But I thought this was like the right amount of time.
Speaker 1: I just happen to see Royce Key is gonna win there.
Speaker 1: Really sucked that spot with him and Jay in the
Speaker 1: top turn buckle when he was trying to do like
Speaker 1: some sort of folly slamming man, it just felt like
Speaker 1: time froze. And I think it was they readjusted and
Speaker 1: try to go again, and that it still didn't work.
Speaker 1: They did three readjustments. I was like that people will forget.
Speaker 1: But that always sucks when the guy's like nickname is
Speaker 1: the monstar and he can't throw Jimmy Usso around. So
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, next time to do it with Jay.
Speaker 1: He's a little smaller, But yeah, I think he did.
Speaker 2: He definitely did it on a SmackDown, but I don't
Speaker 2: remember to like recently, but I think it might have
Speaker 2: been to like Finn or something like that.
Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah, yeah, and it's much smaller again,
Speaker 1: like yeah, you look at the Tusso's. Jade's smaller guy
Speaker 1: than Jimmy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I always saying like, yeah, it's something where
Speaker 2: it's like, isn't like the first time he's busting. I
Speaker 2: mean I still get every every time l. A. Knight
Speaker 2: tries to do the super flex where he runs off
Speaker 2: the ropes, I got scared he did He mostly did it, Yeah, mostly.
Speaker 1: Did it, but he definitely got It's just like just
Speaker 1: save it for I guess, like, is he still doing
Speaker 1: that stuff on raw or is he saying it for
Speaker 1: like pl.
Speaker 2: He does he Well, it depends if it's like a
Speaker 2: big match on Raw, he'll do it. If it's like
Speaker 2: just like a random like when that's gonna end in DQ,
Speaker 2: you know he's not doing it.
Speaker 1: But the two best people to ever do that is
Speaker 1: Kurting on Shell in Benement. They would get up there
Speaker 1: all time and look flossly and the one I think.
Speaker 2: One of the one of the Creed brothers can do it,
Speaker 2: like just like full vertical jumping. Mostly they never never
Speaker 2: get to do it on TV.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, I guess I think Selan does it
Speaker 1: for a full vertical. Kirk didn't do that. He did
Speaker 1: the run up of roast. But the thing about curtis
Speaker 1: he look like he was like he was the master
Speaker 1: that you never know what's coming, and he'd just get
Speaker 1: up there so quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Great, But yeah, what do you think about the.
Speaker 2: Six manh Yeah, I thought it was a fun time.
Speaker 2: Like I was kind of expecting it, Like to me,
Speaker 2: this is like I didn't think it was like really
Speaker 2: gonna be bad. I just thought it was like, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be like a three stars, you know, solid time,
Speaker 2: and that was basically what it was. Yeah, I'm enjoying
Speaker 2: like the Babyface Solo like because I didn't know, like
Speaker 2: constantly the build has been that like you know, the
Speaker 2: usos and Jacob are like the heels, but I mean
Speaker 2: people still you know, like them and they like kind
Speaker 2: of turn heel but not really. It's just very weird.
Speaker 2: So like it would be like on SmackDown, Solo would
Speaker 2: be getting cheered and then on Raw when he's like
Speaker 2: face to face with the usas, he'd still be getting boots.
Speaker 2: So I didn't really know like how the Summer Slam
Speaker 2: crowd was gonna play out, but no, it fit well.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I thought this was a fun time. I'd
Speaker 2: say probably one of Jay's like better performances in a while.
Speaker 2: Like I thought it was doing good out there him
Speaker 2: and Jimmy uh and uh yeah. It was just a
Speaker 2: fine enough time, great sell on the BFT from j
Speaker 2: at the end, like full spiked himself.
Speaker 1: There, Full RVD RBD used to do that with DDTS
Speaker 1: and I would love that. I'd be doing that shit
Speaker 1: in my living room all the trying to give myself
Speaker 1: neck vertebrate issues not knowing, but yeah, it was really
Speaker 1: good there. What do you what do you think is
Speaker 1: the fault with them loves? And do you think this
Speaker 1: starts to build up with something? Do you think it
Speaker 1: was just commentary throwing some things around what happens on
Speaker 1: raw and ro wants to look at these fuckers that
Speaker 1: lost that or is it even just like does this
Speaker 1: get l A Knight to like a title shot maybe
Speaker 1: for like a like a smaller beat to your pair
Speaker 1: of view. I could see that, maybe I could.
Speaker 2: See that Rome's fly gonna be like like, you know,
Speaker 2: you disappoint me or whatever, like he always does take
Speaker 2: the pin. Yeah, yeah, And I could see that, like
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna like kick anyone out right now, say,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I could see that maybe like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think they've advertised like the next I think the next
Speaker 2: big p l e. Roan's gonna be on his money
Speaker 2: in the bank. So maybe that could be like an
Speaker 2: Ellie Night. You know, people want him to win money
Speaker 2: in the bank every year, but maybe just give him
Speaker 2: a title shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because what's going on. Yeah, he's not touching punkin
Speaker 1: now He's he's not touching Roman. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen though, if he sticks to
Speaker 1: that company after they maye believe it, He's gonna get
Speaker 1: that Sammy's am run at some point.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the you said it. I just said,
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty seven, he's gonna win the title in
Speaker 2: it's contract showing.
Speaker 1: Up exactly and then they take it off them and
Speaker 1: then there you go, Sammy. So Vincent Moore asked, does
Speaker 1: the final bass show to where Roman loses. Rome's not losing,
Speaker 1: and no, I think the funal Bass would show up
Speaker 1: more so if he were to win, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like they still do it for I don't think you
Speaker 1: need to do Roman and the Rock for the title,
Speaker 1: but I still think they they would. If Rock said, hey.
Speaker 2: I Meanana bombs.
Speaker 1: If Jamal's you definitely bombs, He's locking the fucking sorry
Speaker 1: Betty Saftie for loser. Man, you gotta wait, he's gotta
Speaker 1: win the rumble, you know. But I think they would
Speaker 1: keep the title. I think no matter what, Roman has
Speaker 1: the title till Mania barring an injury. That's what I'll say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I would say I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I think he's holding on to Mania. And yeah, like honestly,
Speaker 2: like they said, like they want the rock, you know,
Speaker 2: that's the supposedly the plan that it's uh, you know,
Speaker 2: Roman versus Ova. But if they got the rock, then
Speaker 2: it's versus Roman.
Speaker 1: It's weird. It looks like I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 1: just like fully pressed, but it looks like is like
Speaker 1: doing like the scrums again. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just like a gimmick to like
Speaker 1: just his reporters there and stuff.
Speaker 2: That might be. I don't watch like any of the
Speaker 2: pre year post shows.
Speaker 1: That either now, even though aw for any company. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I used to love watching the media scrums and now
Speaker 1: one they barely have like the main talent anymore, like
Speaker 1: the tippy Top people. And two it's just like like
Speaker 1: I said, it's a weird combo of k FAVO. It's
Speaker 1: not not much as learned there, but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Rock's always the hope of the go
Speaker 1: to for them. I think they got a good chance
Speaker 1: of getting it now. But we'll have to see, like
Speaker 1: we've all, we've heard some you know issues between Raw
Speaker 1: like his team and the creative there, So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. I think, no matter what, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: Rock and Roman. I do think Rock wants to have
Speaker 1: like a button on his career. I think he wants
Speaker 1: to have that moment, even if it's I definitely do
Speaker 1: think it's Roman now. I always used to go back
Speaker 1: and forth. I think, you know, my name is Gidnaingy nightmare.
Speaker 1: I'll stick with him while I can. But Cody's definitely
Speaker 1: losing the juice, and I don't think that's all his fault.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 1: some of the booking, because there's many times we've talked
Speaker 1: about where all this issue is happening, and you know,
Speaker 1: they just don't fix it right. So I think the
Speaker 1: juice is in Rock and Roman family. He puts them
Speaker 1: over everything like that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was looking at I was watching the
Speaker 2: post showte and just like scrubbing through it to see
Speaker 2: if they showed. I think it's definitely just like Triple
Speaker 2: H in a room. I didn't hear the audio, but
Speaker 2: it's like they were like outside, you know, with Big
Speaker 2: E and all them out there, and then it just
Speaker 2: cuts to it, just cut to the Triple H in
Speaker 2: like a separate room there. So it's definitely like a
Speaker 2: gimmick to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fuck just have them in the room. Oh right.
Speaker 1: He didn't go with the Vans anywhere. Right after they started.
Speaker 1: After it was wrestling. It was a restmator before now was.
Speaker 2: After John Cena oh or.
Speaker 1: The pres Yeah, right after John Cena oh man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens here next one of.
Speaker 2: My gunther sus all this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was pretty much what I expected. I think
Speaker 1: it was. I think it was a good match. There's
Speaker 1: some fun stuff in here. All this has never been
Speaker 1: like a work rate type of guy. I also think
Speaker 1: he's been better as a heel, so it was interesting
Speaker 1: to having this position. It's cool he got the Oasis music.
Speaker 1: It sucks that, like, yeah, like I wonder how he feels.
Speaker 1: He seemed pretty emotional. I wonder if he has always
Speaker 1: had the idea of I just want to do one
Speaker 1: more and that's it or whatever the fake cases, because
Speaker 1: this guy still on like looks like a thousand bucks,
Speaker 1: you know, and like I remember, I can't remember who
Speaker 1: was was set on an interview this week or some
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's younger than me, Like he is
Speaker 1: younger than he's thirty nine. I think, Yeah, Batista got
Speaker 1: his like world title run in his early forties. It's
Speaker 1: never not possible, and I don't know how far he
Speaker 1: would go on so but that's why I'd like to
Speaker 1: see some sort of running and again, who knows, mayaking
Speaker 1: buses on the future. Right, So I thought this was good.
Speaker 1: I thought this was a fun kind of It wasn't
Speaker 1: a gimmick match, but kind of had that vibe of it, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I some feel say it gave the match. It
Speaker 2: gave the vibe of like a celebrity kind of match,
Speaker 2: even though like you know, he's actually a wrestler, but
Speaker 2: that's like the vibe of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, you have to see him pull
Speaker 1: some cool moves. I don't think any us ever thought
Speaker 1: Gundu was gonna beat him, but or was gonna lose
Speaker 1: to him, but no, it was it was good. I
Speaker 1: think the crowd, you can definitely, I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of the crowd had not seen him wrestle because
Speaker 1: when he's going for some singa sure is there some
Speaker 1: loudness and then not like it was very like mixed.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like an old legend coming out.
Speaker 1: It's a guy that, like you gotta remember when he
Speaker 1: started a GM, they said him like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: used to be a wrestler. But it's not like he
Speaker 1: was a wrestler turned GM on story. He just started
Speaker 1: as a GM.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's actually a lot of people who've never seen
Speaker 2: like anything of him being a wrestler. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: definitely give Like whenever he did like a big move
Speaker 2: like that, like that would pop the crowd in like
Speaker 2: uh oh, I didn't even know he could he could
Speaker 2: do that sort of way, Like when he did that
Speaker 2: big like like brainbuster type supplex where he just like
Speaker 2: fully picked up gun thro that was good stuff.
Speaker 1: What did he use his transition? Because he did something
Speaker 1: to transitional they pulled him up and he called him
Speaker 1: up all you.
Speaker 2: I think I think he like just like fully caught
Speaker 2: gun throw like off like a like a dive and
Speaker 2: then he turned that into like the superlex.
Speaker 1: A big guy. He's a big, tall guy, so that's
Speaker 1: where that was very impressive. Yeah, he had him in
Speaker 1: like a fallaway slam situation, threw him up for a
Speaker 1: supplex and that's where and that's what all this could do,
Speaker 1: right or Magnus back in the day, like that's where
Speaker 1: he was like a bigger power guy. So yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think about mash uh No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was a fun time solid match up.
Speaker 2: Sometimes for Gunther it's fun to see, like, you know,
Speaker 2: like him working like a different someone with a different style,
Speaker 2: like a dragon Lee or something like that. But for this,
Speaker 2: this felt like a classic you know, not quite like
Speaker 2: Meadi men slapping meat type of match, but sort of
Speaker 2: where you know, they're throwing the chops, they're throwing the lariats,
Speaker 2: you know, soupplexes, the sleeper him doing I forget what
Speaker 2: all this is. Submission. It's called I know that no,
Speaker 2: but it has a specific name. It's like the I
Speaker 2: think it's like the King's Lynn Cloverly or something like that.
Speaker 2: I know it's like his hometown, but I don't remember exactly,
Speaker 2: but uh, yeah, I thought it was. I thought, I
Speaker 2: don't know what what this might be. I don't know
Speaker 2: if i'd say I think this might have been like
Speaker 2: my match of the night. Honestly, like I really really
Speaker 2: enjoyed this one. Uh the the only thing, the only
Speaker 2: complaint that I had. But then I see why it
Speaker 2: is the way it is. Is like I thought, on
Speaker 2: like the last Sleeper Holes, they could have held it
Speaker 2: like a little longer before he tapped out, because I
Speaker 2: thought the crowd was like really into it. But at
Speaker 2: the same time I saw people say like, well, like
Speaker 2: if John like he's not last, like he shouldn't last
Speaker 2: as long as like John Senior aj styles like in
Speaker 2: the Sleeper Holes. So so I see why they did it.
Speaker 2: But that was really my only complaint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it. But it's also like, if
Speaker 1: he's not kidding, you could make the argument of the
Speaker 1: reason holds the longer because if it's like his last
Speaker 1: match almost like a retire everything right, or he has
Speaker 1: that he's been building at stamina for years, he has damn,
Speaker 1: which is bringing roughs, but he can fight, you know,
Speaker 1: so yeah damn. But yeah, okay, that that's exciting to hear,
Speaker 1: let's see what David's match to night was. But uh,
Speaker 1: we get to that and then we get to the
Speaker 1: six woman's tag and this is yeah for me, this
Speaker 1: stretch was not for Travis. Yeah. No, not great, not
Speaker 1: not great. Davellas have never been a ring worker. I
Speaker 1: know paiges like, oh well, my heart wasn't really into aw.
Speaker 1: It just feels like her heart's not really in it.
Speaker 1: He I think it's more just like unfortunately, just some
Speaker 1: people don't get the same. Like, I know she's training,
Speaker 1: I know she's putting in the work. I absolutely and
Speaker 1: I thought what w maybe would be different, especially with
Speaker 1: the style. I think still fits are better for what
Speaker 1: she is currently. But some people after injury, it just
Speaker 1: it doesn't have They just don't move the same or
Speaker 1: work the same. That's how I feel like Page or
Speaker 1: Soria's ben it just has still never clicked clicked again.
Speaker 1: Maybe if she's gonna be like on a solo singles run,
Speaker 1: I guess there's a she's on raw, right, there's a
Speaker 1: big good work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they could move her to BRA I
Speaker 2: guess she's technically on smack now, I guess, but.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so yeah, this was is that. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's definitely on her a two
Speaker 1: point five. For me, I don't know's I would definitely
Speaker 1: give it like a failing.
Speaker 2: I think I gave it like I gave it like
Speaker 2: a two point two five. I think just because I
Speaker 2: just love fatal influence. So for me, I'm watching them
Speaker 2: like anything they do is good in my eyes, just
Speaker 2: like all the stuff they do just just pops me
Speaker 2: just how they work. So in that way, I still
Speaker 2: enjoyed it, like seeing them do their stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't a very good match. But it does seem
Speaker 2: too that Bree got injured because she like rolled out
Speaker 2: of a ring and was kind of out of it and
Speaker 2: then in the whole thing she was holding her arms.
Speaker 2: So hopefully not too bad. But I think that definitely
Speaker 2: changed maybe like the finish at some point, because it
Speaker 2: seemed like she was kind of working there and then
Speaker 2: like rolled out of the ring and then like like
Speaker 2: she wasn't even necessarily like hit by a move to
Speaker 2: like take her out of the match. It was kind
Speaker 2: of she just like rolled out and was gone.
Speaker 1: So I think the finish finish was the what they
Speaker 1: planned because the finish. Yeah, yeah, she Paige pushed Nicky
Speaker 1: Bell all the way, tagged herself in, then went in
Speaker 1: and took the pinfall. So clearly it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you screwed us over because you you tagged yourselves out
Speaker 1: and everything like that. So we'll see. I guess, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Bailey is around for a little bit,
Speaker 1: if you could put her there. I know some people
Speaker 1: might think you might want to try and get Age
Speaker 1: back to run that back. I don't really think Age
Speaker 1: is coming back anytime soon. I don't even know if ever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just uh, yeah, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: I just don't know if this need to be on
Speaker 1: pay of you. But the reason I had is just
Speaker 1: because that's why I thought they're gonna do the moment.
Speaker 1: That's why I thought they were gonna do the turn.
Speaker 1: They won that moment with the crowd. You got that there.
Speaker 1: Hopefully bree just has like a stinger, not too bad,
Speaker 1: because that would be very unforshift. The second Nikki gets back,
Speaker 1: Breeze gone, and then you can still work singles. We've
Speaker 1: seen that. Nothing amazing, but still be kind of unfortunate.
Speaker 1: But I do think at some point the Bells, they'll
Speaker 1: still get those tech titles probably wait till fail influenced
Speaker 1: drops into like a baby Face team at some point
Speaker 1: and then hot Potato it to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because now it feels like because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: if it was gonna be like Nicki and Bree turning
Speaker 2: on page and I assume Paige would probably get some
Speaker 2: tech partner to rustle them. But now if it's only
Speaker 2: gonna be like Nicki and Paige, I feel like you're saying,
Speaker 2: like this might just be like a mini vortex real.
Speaker 2: They're just kind of like like the like the Bells
Speaker 2: versus like I could see them feuding where they're just
Speaker 2: like not really interacting with like any of the titles
Speaker 2: or anything, but they're just like on TV feuding with
Speaker 2: each other. Or maybe it just gets like completely changed
Speaker 2: if it really is a bad injury.
Speaker 1: I don't know so, but yeah, they said that tonight
Speaker 1: you're in the six man Men's tag. They said Cole
Speaker 1: said that Ellen it's been stuck in the bloodline.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, because I think Ellen and
Speaker 2: I did say like in a promo or something like that,
Speaker 2: so that one kind of makes sense. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: was happy to see fatal influence and get the win.
Speaker 2: I think this kind of ends that feud, especially if
Speaker 2: like the Bells are gonna be heels now then that
Speaker 2: so yeah, I don't really know for fatal Influence. I mean,
Speaker 2: they could go to Roswell with like the tag titles.
Speaker 2: Those are cross brand.
Speaker 1: So I guess Jase can just go with them.
Speaker 2: She just yeah, yeah. I think I think the next
Speaker 2: thing for jac is I think there was like something
Speaker 2: with her in the US title. It does seem like
Speaker 2: that might be, but there's just a yeah, well, we'll
Speaker 2: have to see that because I think there is a
Speaker 2: chance they just like give her the US title to
Speaker 2: have all of them with the titles, even if afterwards
Speaker 2: they don't do much with it. But I could see
Speaker 2: them just wanting to do like your Chelsea Green, like
Speaker 2: the US title, just because like Ethan Page was a
Speaker 2: double champion, I wanted both of them to be double champion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very interested. Jayce wasn't in the ladder match.
Speaker 1: I thought she was going to be in there, and
Speaker 1: I don't know because there was those talks of her
Speaker 1: and Rihea working at Summer Slam, and I still think
Speaker 1: Ria would have won. But you never know, So I'm
Speaker 1: just curious how what they're gonna do with jayc is
Speaker 1: if they are gonna take the US run that make
Speaker 1: her build up and be like oh us for a
Speaker 1: while and then rumble.
Speaker 2: There's something interesting. We can sort of talk about the
Speaker 2: ladder match already because I think all all the options
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of stuff like pointing in lots of
Speaker 2: different directions for me. So one thing is like, if
Speaker 2: you go via by like the betting sites and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, the favorite is a Charlotte, which I do
Speaker 2: think is definitely possible. I could see that being like,
Speaker 2: you know, like Alexa Blitsch shows up and pushes Jade
Speaker 2: off the ladder to a big pop and she just wins.
Speaker 2: But also an interesting thing is they announced that next
Speaker 2: week on SmackDown, it's gonna be Jade versus Charlotte, like
Speaker 2: in a singles match. Already, Son is like sothing, is
Speaker 2: it like, well, she's gonna win the title and it's
Speaker 2: like okay, now it's for the interim title or is
Speaker 2: that pointing in the opposite direction where it's like, well,
Speaker 2: not me that they're not gonna win like they cost
Speaker 2: each other and now they're having a singles match.
Speaker 1: I think the only person for sure I don't see
Speaker 1: winning this is Tiffany because I don't think they're doing
Speaker 1: the two thing.
Speaker 2: I would say, like to me, Tiffany, like she is
Speaker 2: the lowest odds if you're if you're going by that.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's possible. I believe she is
Speaker 2: from Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I think I could see them.
Speaker 2: Doing it for the pop and then that's how you
Speaker 2: take like one of the like I could see her
Speaker 2: being the double champ and then she wrestles like in
Speaker 2: like a four way or something for the US title
Speaker 2: with like with like JC and some of these people
Speaker 2: who have like been coming at her and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: she couldn't handle, you know, being double champion or like
Speaker 2: something like they did.
Speaker 1: Is Stephanie on NXT, right, that's how JC won the title.
Speaker 1: Just fatal influenced screwter Over and that's what they do
Speaker 1: is she defends the title influence screws over and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm WTP now, so we have folks on that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I do think there's actually a chance of Tiffany
Speaker 2: winning it. Chelsea. I could also see her winning it
Speaker 2: in like I think it's I think it could be
Speaker 2: a way, and she's been like she always pushes that
Speaker 2: she wants to win money in the bank and like
Speaker 2: do a failed cash in. I think with this introm title,
Speaker 2: it could be like because she says it's like because
Speaker 2: she thinks she's like the female miss where she's like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if I win or lose, like I
Speaker 2: make moments hashtag ww.
Speaker 1: But like MS was successful on both his castions.
Speaker 2: I don't know, she's like, this is well. I think
Speaker 2: for the women, it's that it's like that there's never
Speaker 2: been a failed cash and so it'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's something something termorable, something different.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey again, I we tell it's a couples
Speaker 1: in discord. I'm to live Morgan Defender that clip on
Speaker 1: her on ree be like hey, I got you guys
Speaker 1: a lot the time, and I'm like, oh no, don't
Speaker 1: do this to yourself. Same thing like never pitch yourself
Speaker 1: to lose in most times, in most times, and that's
Speaker 1: where it's like, don't pitch that, like go for the title,
Speaker 1: get the title, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but the but the Chelsea win, I think
Speaker 2: could be one where like she wins and then she
Speaker 2: just like lose to reel, like when she comes back
Speaker 2: if they give her that Jade, I don't think is happening,
Speaker 2: like for the same reason, says Charlotte. So then for me,
Speaker 2: it could really go anyway. At the at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, like there's a lot of.
Speaker 1: Chance, no chance they do a hot shot and just
Speaker 1: like have real beat her when she gets back and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, the rookie took because at least with
Speaker 1: the ladder match, you can do the kind of like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like not cheap went. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: going to do that, but they've done that before, right
Speaker 1: to get a surprise, and like if they want to
Speaker 1: make someone right, they go, hey, we want to make
Speaker 1: a lash into it now, like a next lady up.
Speaker 1: Let's give her that title tonight, you know, get some
Speaker 1: cool backsat shows with her and Trick. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I still think it's just Charlotte and that Jade. Match
Speaker 1: turns to one on one and they do Charlotte and Riha,
Speaker 1: which will be interesting because I think that would be
Speaker 1: the tie. Yeah, I guess that would be the tiebreaker
Speaker 1: because they both.
Speaker 2: Know they've had they had the one at they had
Speaker 2: the one at WrestleMania they have a triple threat and
Speaker 2: the n X seed not a single triple threat.
Speaker 1: You'll want that, Yeah, Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2: Think they have one like Adam Adam money in the bank,
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty one. I think in like in like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Rio was a judgment day, I think still right, no.
Speaker 2: When she wasn't in judgment, Like it's like the the
Speaker 2: title reign that got like retcon pretty much like Rio's
Speaker 2: first the title reign. They like never mentioned it on TV.
Speaker 1: Oscar right, yeah, and it was it was like a
Speaker 1: live Morgan title run that where she just really didn't
Speaker 1: do much to eat Oscar. She had the title and
Speaker 1: then she got kicked to the tag team title seen
Speaker 1: like right after. Yeah, you're right, that did happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, I think and I think that one.
Speaker 2: Uh sure, I don't know who won that one, but
Speaker 2: they've definitely had three singles matches already, so it would
Speaker 2: just be another one. But uh and I could see
Speaker 2: them putting that on, like like I don't think like
Speaker 2: when Ria comes back, they probably put that like unification
Speaker 2: match on, Like that could be like a money in
Speaker 2: the bank match. You have someone cashing on catching on
Speaker 2: them right away, for they're holding up both titles, the
Speaker 2: intro one and the real one.
Speaker 1: That's that they did with fucking Alberto do Rio Summer
Speaker 1: Slam with Punk scene in him both at the time
Speaker 1: Punk one and then Alberto got it. What are your thoughts,
Speaker 1: because we didn't talk about this since the last show
Speaker 1: we talked about not being around. What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on them doing an interntile instead of just stripping Rhea.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's pretty rare and w like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's maybe if it's happened.
Speaker 2: Happening honestly, the last one might have honestly been like
Speaker 2: that one with with scene in punk.
Speaker 1: And even then that was even though that was like
Speaker 1: a real left right like I have to see that
Speaker 1: they did that in the first three years a lot.
Speaker 1: But then I think people kind of got tired of it.
Speaker 1: I honestly think, which this is so funny. It sounds
Speaker 1: like the talent got tired of it because they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm an intern champ, intern champ, and I don't know
Speaker 1: why they did. It's like it's a fictional thing. It's
Speaker 1: like your title runs still recognize it's okay, but you know.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see it. I'm just looking up quickly.
Speaker 2: Apparently did it for like the Cruiserweight title one time? God, Uh,
Speaker 2: that's pretty much all I see.
Speaker 1: I guess I just don't know.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I would say it'd be Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: really know why they didn't strip for the title unless
Speaker 2: it's really something where they just have like no idea
Speaker 2: when she could come back, but like not in like
Speaker 2: the opposite way of like it could be like tomorrow,
Speaker 2: is what I was saying.
Speaker 1: That's where I am, like, I need to see now
Speaker 1: it's a classic, but I do need to see a
Speaker 1: play out and see how long she is actually gone for,
Speaker 1: because it's a situation where she is end up gone
Speaker 1: for like six months, like at that point, you just
Speaker 1: strip her. I understand, because she just that happened a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago already, right, So it's this thing
Speaker 1: of like, man, we already took her off for once,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take her off her again and then because
Speaker 1: the idea is like she would probably just come back
Speaker 1: and win it. So I don't know. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's wait and see.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that ladder match. I think could be
Speaker 1: really good. I think it would also be very messy.
Speaker 1: We'll see how Lash and Jade Cargill doing that.
Speaker 2: So I say, Lash has been in a in a
Speaker 2: ladder match in the past and in NXT, and she
Speaker 2: was actually surprisingly like she was like the giant of
Speaker 2: the match, but she was the one like doing like
Speaker 2: the big bumps like they like they like like all
Speaker 2: the women the match like collectively like pick her up
Speaker 2: and like put her through a ladder on the outside
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I think she could like
Speaker 2: her and Chelsea might be the ones like taking some
Speaker 2: of these like crazy bumps and you know, hopefully Lash
Speaker 2: can catch Tiffany.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this time it's like you better, you better
Speaker 1: all of the ladies. But actually, I Tiffany Beck, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing that spy more. You know, uh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw to you first. What did you think of Seampunk
Speaker 1: versus Cody Rhods.
Speaker 2: I don't really thought it was like a weird match
Speaker 2: like in that like I'd say, it wasn't what I
Speaker 2: was expecting it to be. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I don't really know what I was expecting because this
Speaker 2: whole time I thought like, oh, this is when like
Speaker 2: Cody's gonna finally turn heel, but then like there's been
Speaker 2: other matches where he's worked like much more healed than
Speaker 2: this and didn't turn heal, so he bare like he
Speaker 2: he didn't work healing this match.
Speaker 1: What I was saying, even when Punk's leg was hurt, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this was when it's gonna start. He's gonna be like
Speaker 1: really shitty with the leg, not even just go after,
Speaker 1: but he just went after like a wrestler. He said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on the leg. I thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna start using the ring post like very almost like
Speaker 1: Brett hardish of like, Okay, this is legal, but like
Speaker 1: you're kind of taking some liberties with the rules here. Nah,
Speaker 1: he's just doing hold and he's like stomping on it.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. It's like it kind of felt like
Speaker 2: they were working like like an like an epic type
Speaker 2: of match, but it didn't have like the build up
Speaker 2: to it, is what I felt. That's kind of like
Speaker 2: my overall thought on it, where it's like they were
Speaker 2: good doing good work, but it didn't feel like I'll say,
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like the match built at all like
Speaker 2: this stuff like would happen and it was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is this is fine, but it didn't never felt
Speaker 2: like even when they got to like the bigger stuff,
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like they built up to it would
Speaker 2: kind of just start happening.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think the way I would describe this
Speaker 1: and I never have, I'm gonna keep this in my
Speaker 1: Backpock in the future, it's gonna be a gimmick exclusive.
Speaker 1: I think it's a phantom epic. And the reason is
Speaker 1: is because I don't think the way this was booked.
Speaker 1: It feels like things we've talked about before. When people
Speaker 1: want to wrestle the big time match, it's a big
Speaker 1: time show, but they don't want to do everything right.
Speaker 1: I do see a version of this match where they're
Speaker 1: doing the rematch at WrestleMania. If Punk had just beat Cody,
Speaker 1: like no matter what, whether it's gen whatever, if he
Speaker 1: would have beat him by himself, I'd say, well that's done.
Speaker 1: That story is done. Maybe him and Cody can look
Speaker 1: up at some point. But with the Randy interference, which
Speaker 1: I hate it because it's just like all right, sure
Speaker 1: we're going back to this, that feels like, well, Punk
Speaker 1: didn't see that, so Punk is a character would go, well,
Speaker 1: I know I can beat Cody without Randy, and Cody
Speaker 1: can say you couldn't beat me without Andy, right, So
Speaker 1: it feels like there's like un left territory. But at
Speaker 1: the same point they're probably like at when they were
Speaker 1: putting together the match, they probably thought, hey, we're main
Speaker 1: eventing SummerSlam, so we gotta really go all out, right.
Speaker 1: We can't just have one of the like like a
Speaker 1: TV made event where you can kind of hold some
Speaker 1: stuff back. So that's why I think it is a
Speaker 1: phantom epic where they're doing some of the spots, but
Speaker 1: they weren't exactly building up to it. I'll say the
Speaker 1: first five minutes this match was rough. They were just
Speaker 1: like there's one point where when Punk first it wasn't
Speaker 1: the first five minutes. This is later, but Punk hurt
Speaker 1: his knee and Cody went to do a dragon whip
Speaker 1: and they weren't on the same thing. So he just
Speaker 1: like he put like, literally the leg is hurt. He
Speaker 1: goes to work on the converses always gonna start working,
Speaker 1: Like he puts the leg down, he brings up, he
Speaker 1: hits them, and then he brings them from the dragon.
Speaker 1: It was super flunky, like multiple spots, but I'll say
Speaker 1: the first five minutes where they're trying to do even
Speaker 1: then like I get it where and I've been following
Speaker 1: this where it's been the accidental bump into each other
Speaker 1: to do the problems, and I saw them brawl and
Speaker 1: smack down. I don't really think this few needed that.
Speaker 1: And the fact that it started with them doing like
Speaker 1: the heated like rivalry are like, oh I hate you,
Speaker 1: I hate you, We're just gonna fight. That didn't fit either.
Speaker 1: To me. That's like maybe down the line, that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be the first one again. It's just it's so odd
Speaker 1: that I think the company really hates doing Bayface versus Bayface,
Speaker 1: because even this is Bayface versus Bayface, but they made
Speaker 1: it really like you guys gotta really dislike each other.
Speaker 1: I just find the promos but just make it like
Speaker 1: they just open up with the chain wrestling and then
Speaker 1: like go from there. It felt like a weird it
Speaker 1: just and then they kind of went to that later.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's weird because.
Speaker 2: I think also one of the things in the promo
Speaker 2: was too is like punk was like I want to
Speaker 2: beat you in like a clean wrestling match and like
Speaker 2: really pointing out wrestling. So it was weird. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they had like the story of like this is gonna
Speaker 2: be like a heated, you know, hated rivalry, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, it's like, well, it needs to be
Speaker 2: like a clean, nice, clean wrestling match.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if it's just them, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it just happened in the match. It
Speaker 1: just felt like this match was two different matches put together,
Speaker 1: and it never really sung. I think it started singing
Speaker 1: near the the ending. I think like once they got
Speaker 1: to the figure four sequence and they started to go on.
Speaker 1: I did like the segment of Punky did the gts
Speaker 1: and then Cody fell on his shoulders and then he
Speaker 1: countered this time because every time that's like his finishing
Speaker 1: doing thing right, He'll he'll end off whoever. But yes,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I feel like punk has my favorite match
Speaker 1: the year of Roman, and then right now for like
Speaker 1: a big marquee match, it is like my most disappointing
Speaker 1: match of the year because I was really looking forward
Speaker 1: to punking Cody. I was one of those of like, hey,
Speaker 1: save the Mania, but after the way this match was booked.
Speaker 1: I actually think there's a good shot. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's locked in, but I think it's a case of, hey,
Speaker 1: if Roman is working Rock or he is working Oba
Speaker 1: or whatever, then we can just do Punk Cody two
Speaker 1: and you guys can go fall out and uh yeah
Speaker 1: again some tough spots punk. I know he loves Terry
Speaker 1: Funk most like he's only done a few times in
Speaker 1: his career. It's never been good. And then even the
Speaker 1: table and.
Speaker 2: He messes up like the exact same way every time,
Speaker 2: like someone puts it like the match with Sina, and
Speaker 2: like he literally lands in like the exact same way
Speaker 2: next to them, like to.
Speaker 1: The side, and and then even when he did the
Speaker 1: elbow jump.
Speaker 2: He definitely overshot it, like he landed like feet first
Speaker 2: on the table.
Speaker 1: I thought it.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought his acl was gone right there,
Speaker 2: just like it's over just the.
Speaker 1: Next day, though you're not. You were around an aw original.
Speaker 1: You know that happened twice to us where he works
Speaker 1: a match and then the next day he's out. Happened
Speaker 1: to brawl in and then it happened when he jumped
Speaker 1: in the crowd. He worked a whole match and then
Speaker 1: they came in the back like, oh, yeah that match
Speaker 1: with FTR, your legs fucked so you never know. But no,
Speaker 1: that's a good job on the commentators though by they
Speaker 1: were saying like, all this really probably jacked up his knee,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was really smart on them. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh. For me, it's unfortunate. I was looking really
Speaker 1: for this and I actually thought this could have been
Speaker 1: a match of your contender, and I just like, that's
Speaker 1: a match that you walk out being like we didn't
Speaker 1: get everything. So I think this will happen again. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna t t y and say it's a WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a good shop having WrestleMania. And
Speaker 1: then I guess Randy's like, yeah, I don't know. Everyone
Speaker 1: knows me. I'm just not a big fan of matches
Speaker 1: that the whole time it's building to that finish and
Speaker 1: then like heel whoever comes in and hits the spot
Speaker 1: and it's over. I'm find more on TV or even
Speaker 1: something to set something up down the future. But I
Speaker 1: hate that with Seth and Gunther. I hate that here.
Speaker 1: It's just such like a do you think.
Speaker 2: If this was the main Like do you think if
Speaker 2: this was the main event, this is the exact same
Speaker 2: finish like Randy, just like straight cost and Cody.
Speaker 1: Because they've done that before, right, Like they've done that
Speaker 1: with Travis Scott, Like they've done the interference and bad
Speaker 1: guy wins, right, even Punk's not the bad guy. The
Speaker 1: crowd wasn't actually as hard on Cody as I thought
Speaker 1: they were gonna be, but they're definitely more for Punk.
Speaker 1: I And that's the other thing too. It felt like
Speaker 1: for the first half of match, not the crowd didn't care,
Speaker 1: but they were not really like into it, into it.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna be locked in, and it
Speaker 1: just felt like they they got near the end. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like quiet, but it just I thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of like, let's go Punk, let's
Speaker 1: go Cody. It wasn't that. It was just kind of
Speaker 1: like it was almost like again, the crowd didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do either of like, well, all these stories are.
Speaker 2: Happening, I don't know, so yeah, it was just kind
Speaker 2: of weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where and maybe that's where if Punk
Speaker 1: would have turned heel, that would have been something would
Speaker 1: have been better for this down line. But we'll see.
Speaker 1: I hope they run this back. I feel like there's
Speaker 1: a better Cody and Punk match here. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's Cody the heel. I know there's rumors at the
Speaker 1: balls in his court. I don't think he's gonna do
Speaker 1: that yet. Really, I don't because I just don't if
Speaker 1: they want Punk to have the title for a while
Speaker 1: and Roman there, I don't. I don't think yet. I
Speaker 1: think I honestly have said this before. I think if
Speaker 1: Punk or if Roman Cody ever becomes a real life thing,
Speaker 1: that's what you say it for and you you turn
Speaker 1: it around. So what I was gonna say, uh, triple h.
Speaker 1: I guess on that. I don't know if it is
Speaker 1: a post shot or not.
Speaker 2: It's definitely it's definitely a cave fave presser. Like I
Speaker 2: haven't looked. I haven't looked, I haven't listened to it,
Speaker 2: but I saw one of the questions was like being
Speaker 2: asked about Damian Priests and that was like that was
Speaker 2: like a like a work shoot type thing like on
Speaker 2: Snack don Work Damian Pisa is like, you know, Cody,
Speaker 2: like we don't like like the tough guys, same spots,
Speaker 2: Like it definitely feels like that's a question you asked,
Speaker 2: Like that's It's like in storyline they would ask like
Speaker 2: character triple h that question. Like I don't even have
Speaker 2: to hear who asked them, but like I can, I
Speaker 2: can tell well.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's what because that came out like a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. I think during like the Darby
Speaker 1: m Jeff thing, right, like them being like in their
Speaker 1: twenty early thirties, and then like the past week like
Speaker 1: there's no champions in the WD that's been born in
Speaker 1: the nineties, right, or even the brawn thing. I think
Speaker 1: they came up again after on real worms, like look
Speaker 1: at all these old champions even then my Tam Princess
Speaker 1: in his forty one. So it's like I get he's
Speaker 1: a new face, but it's like I don't like you
Speaker 1: represent the new the crop and everything, right, But I think.
Speaker 2: To be fair to preest it, I think he was like,
Speaker 2: you know, he's supposed to be like the locker room leader.
Speaker 2: So it's like I'm hearing what the what the boys
Speaker 2: are saying. You know, I'm just telling you, Cody, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like he's the nice guy. He's telling Cody, you know
Speaker 2: what the boys in the in the back are saying
Speaker 2: about him.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, might Shays rebels her shoulder injury. It
Speaker 1: seems pretty bad. I don't know I did yet. She
Speaker 1: has some treatment, she'd been taken a hoss with and
Speaker 1: scanzer on clans yet I know she heard shoulder seems
Speaker 1: pretty bad, but I don't have an answer. Yeah, hopefully
Speaker 1: she'll be there soon. Hopefully won't be as bad as
Speaker 1: we thought. Yeah, again, that sucks. Again. I'm not a big,
Speaker 1: huge bells guy, but I don't need anyone to be injured.
Speaker 1: I'd rather end it in a different way. And then, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just because and I've always said the money back
Speaker 1: to was like, just get the bell Like we've said
Speaker 1: that before, right with the whole briefing, I just get
Speaker 1: the bells back together. And twice they done.
Speaker 2: You were saying it before everyone else said.
Speaker 1: And it just sucks that they're actively trying and they can't.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I guess we're kind of make the
Speaker 1: last days. We're on that and then the main event. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have nothing to say here. I don't think they
Speaker 1: went above and beyond. I thought I was hoping for
Speaker 1: a bit harder stuff I got. They exposed the woods
Speaker 1: that's cool, but it just felt like it didn't really
Speaker 1: even need to be in the cell. It was felt
Speaker 1: like a more street fight and holds barred. So I
Speaker 1: just hope it even Brock would like get some color,
Speaker 1: you know, That's all I was like doing something. It
Speaker 1: just it just felt like a It felt like if
Speaker 1: you take those first two matches and put them together
Speaker 1: and it's a little longer, Supplexus fis fall grace, you know.
Speaker 1: I guess. Sure, it was fun to see Brock through
Speaker 1: the Tombstone tribute taker, sure, but this is like, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I would fail this one too. That's me being grumpy.
Speaker 1: I know I'm being rumpy on that one, but I'm
Speaker 1: just like again, like it's just I'm over us. We
Speaker 1: did the same thing with Cody, we did the same
Speaker 1: thing with someone else, the trip. I'm done with the
Speaker 1: Brock trilogy thing. Like Oba is nowhere better off than
Speaker 1: he was where he was at WrestleMania, you know, like
Speaker 1: he's still over I don't think this helped him at all.
Speaker 1: I think he didn't hurt him. But yeah, I'm very
Speaker 1: excited for Ova to move on, and I don't think
Speaker 1: Brock's done unfortunately.
Speaker 2: I think Yeah, the report was like, he's coming back
Speaker 2: at Saudi. Yeah, he's probably not showing up until then,
Speaker 2: but the report is like, yeah, he's definitely gonna wrestle
Speaker 2: in Saudi at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know we're gonna our thoughts one hundred. Yes,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Brock and Oba? And if
Speaker 1: someone does defeat Obah, wh would it be? Would you want?
Speaker 1: I think be gone through? I think Oba like you,
Speaker 1: I think you wait for a while. Like, hey, technically
Speaker 1: Ricky Saints's beat Oba, you know the guy? No, I
Speaker 1: think you, I don't know technically still Brock beat him,
Speaker 1: Like you can always do that stuff, right, But like
Speaker 1: I look at someone like Cody, he's not Actually him
Speaker 1: losing a SAMI for that title was the first time
Speaker 1: he had lost clean since he's back in w w B.
Speaker 1: I think whenever Oba loses, it'll be Shenanigans. And if
Speaker 1: he loses clean clean, he'll be for a while. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, Roan just just be like Roan's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm working the rock at WrestleMania. You know,
Speaker 2: let's run this out, Royal Rumbell. You know, I'm going over.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'll, i'll you know, a little shake
Speaker 2: hands at the end.
Speaker 1: It'll be even bigger. People try to give me this
Speaker 1: ship back in the day with like Goldberg being Brock,
Speaker 1: Like oh, when you know the Brock Lezard beats Undertaker
Speaker 1: Streak and then Goldbert beats him, will be even bigger
Speaker 1: when someone beats Goldberg and like, no, and that's a
Speaker 1: Roman dude him, Like hey, when I beat Rock and
Speaker 1: then you come back and beat me for the second time,
Speaker 1: it's bigger for you Oba and then he's not gonna
Speaker 1: give it to You're gonna give it to Jacob or
Speaker 1: j or whatnot.
Speaker 2: But you know, but yeah, for this match, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: I had a fun time, Like definitely, like their first
Speaker 2: match is easily the one, uh the second one. I
Speaker 2: didn't hate it, like it was fine, but it was
Speaker 2: definitely like the most like finisher Spam Brock match of
Speaker 2: like maybe of all time, like even more than like
Speaker 2: the SnO one where he squashed him last year, like
Speaker 2: because this was like he hit like it was like
Speaker 2: fifteen f fives or something on Ova uh and Ova,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, in.
Speaker 1: The steps he killed them with those steps over the
Speaker 1: no in.
Speaker 2: That one like in Italy, Like he didn't even do
Speaker 2: like like instead of doing the sup like city, he
Speaker 2: did like an F five city like that was like
Speaker 2: the only Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nine f fives that was yeah, something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they said that tonight where it's like it took nine
Speaker 1: f fives to bring him down, which again I always
Speaker 1: bring up that I understand that point, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, Obagan offense, it also makes him look like
Speaker 1: a little bit of a jobber. He's not, but just
Speaker 1: like it looks like he just couldn't get anything in,
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, it took nine to be Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this one that was an enjoyable time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely didn't need to be like the Cell,
Speaker 2: But I mean, I assume that probably sells some tickets
Speaker 2: if you're an Uncie has a cell. I think really
Speaker 2: the more of the reason they went last is just
Speaker 2: because they're gonna do the like ripping apart the Matt spot.
Speaker 2: That's probably why, which I thought was like a cool idea.
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna hit Brock onto the wood
Speaker 2: for the last drive, but may Brock was like, I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not doing that, brother.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like Oba fucked that up.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to, because if you watch the show
Speaker 1: that replay, Oba hits him and Rock bounces. Brock bounces.
Speaker 1: The second he hits the ground, Brock looks to his
Speaker 1: right at the boards of like, I didn't hit the boards,
Speaker 1: Like what the hell happened? So I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that would be pretty nearly at least the tombstone,
Speaker 1: like the tombstone.
Speaker 2: I mean, his knees probably heard all.
Speaker 1: Taking all that right. But for Oba, if it's done right,
Speaker 1: you're really not doing anything the fall from grace. That's
Speaker 1: gonna fucking kill you big time if you're doing that
Speaker 1: on like just wood boards. So I would understand not
Speaker 1: taking that bump. But I think the crowd almost kind
Speaker 1: of expected that too, because I think it was like
Speaker 1: a oh and then when he turned, like it was
Speaker 1: so exciting, but you didn't get that like that huge
Speaker 1: reaction of like the boards and everything right. But you know,
Speaker 1: I guess Brock's owed the gun through. I imagine at
Speaker 1: some point here and I feel exciting for that match.
Speaker 1: I just I just know what it's gonna be. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be all this type of stuff, right, So who knows.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I never checked, like what the what
Speaker 2: the time was on that cell match? It didn't feel
Speaker 2: like insanely.
Speaker 1: Long, going to be maybe like ten twelve minutes, right,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Wikipedia, Yeah is it? Let's see some the
Speaker 1: slame night went. I'll find it. But uh yeah, anything
Speaker 1: else from the show.
Speaker 2: Overall, mm, I shouldn't think. I don't really think so.
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: H anything else ww really we touched on a little bit.
Speaker 1: What did you think about Raquel Argrigez being so for
Speaker 1: the time because that took me by quite surprised. Brocken
Speaker 1: Ol was eleven forty by.
Speaker 2: The way, so just yees, yeah, Raquel, I actually thought
Speaker 2: the match was good. Like us, the people didn't like
Speaker 2: it because of the title change, but like the match itself,
Speaker 2: I thought was actually like it wasn't even bad. It
Speaker 2: was definitely like I didn't really expect it. But and
Speaker 2: and also that is another thing of like putting like
Speaker 2: a championship on like another heel, like definitely weird a
Speaker 2: supposed to like we were saying, like there's no babyfaces,
Speaker 2: But I mean I don't necessarily hate it. The decision
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder. I guess it's just the fall up
Speaker 1: right with the group and with Soul. I guess I
Speaker 1: was just surprised because that Soul's gonna get a better run,
Speaker 1: and I also thought that it might wait until And
Speaker 1: that's why I'm put these two thoughts together. That's why
Speaker 1: I wonder if Becky is gonna come back in as
Speaker 1: a face, because I thought they were maybe gonna run
Speaker 1: that back with Soul and Becky and go to that program.
Speaker 1: But if Soul didn't have it, I feel like Becky,
Speaker 1: you can turn her and get her back to be
Speaker 1: a baby face. I feel like she needs it. I know.
Speaker 1: I think her character is very divisive. I think that
Speaker 1: it like thought, there are lots of people enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I think there's lots people like myself that are on
Speaker 1: the camp that just think it's like I won't say,
Speaker 1: go away Heat, But for me, it's like it depends
Speaker 1: on the promo with Teeters on that where it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not really enjoying anything I'm seeing from your back
Speaker 1: once you get the ring and again she's it's not
Speaker 1: that she's it's she does it well. I just don't
Speaker 1: like what she does. It's like if someone if you
Speaker 1: gave me a chef and they made me like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person makes the greatest uh mushroom soup in the world,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter. It's still fucking gay because I hate
Speaker 1: mushroom soup. So that's just like Becky's doing it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just like I don't like this type of cheesy
Speaker 1: style she does. But sometimes here right, so.
Speaker 2: It's like me watching will Offspring match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's your warning Shot BRUV. You know we'll get there.
Speaker 1: My nickname that Warning Shop prov Yeah. Have you seen that?
Speaker 1: I was talking about buff and it's Oh, I love
Speaker 1: that one so much. But uh, yeah, is there any
Speaker 1: l s W or NXT related that you want to
Speaker 1: touch upon a shot? I'm trying to think there's NXT.
Speaker 2: Well, they are doing the Kendall Gray Lola Ice Underground match,
Speaker 2: which should be interesting because those underground matches are a
Speaker 2: mixed bag. Like sometimes they're just like very ridiculous fun
Speaker 2: and sometimes they're just like kind of like super short
Speaker 2: and like because they'll do like because it is like
Speaker 2: you win by knockout, so sometimes they'll try to do
Speaker 2: it make it like realistic, where it's like it just
Speaker 2: lasts like like three minutes or five minutes or something
Speaker 2: like that, and someone just gets knocked out and loses.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes they go like full crazy with it,
Speaker 2: like like they'll do like like like go through the
Speaker 2: announced table and like jump on all the people like
Speaker 2: on the outside and stuff. So it depends.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think it should be interesting, especially like with Little
Speaker 2: of Ice and Kendall Gray like actually having like that
Speaker 2: like actual wrestling and MMA backgrounds. It could be an
Speaker 2: interesting match. So I'm excited for it. And that definitely
Speaker 2: does seem like Little Device's last match in NXC because
Speaker 2: she's like undefeated in the underground matches. That is like
Speaker 2: her match type. So I'll see on that well.
Speaker 1: And that's the case that if she goes to smack
Speaker 1: theon like you said, then they should definitely get somebody
Speaker 1: else over from smacting over there. I hate it when
Speaker 1: I saw some stat I think it's like what like
Speaker 1: been eleven weeks since Blake Monroe's like worked a match
Speaker 1: or something like that. My god, man, you kill me
Speaker 1: over here, like what's happening over there? You could you
Speaker 1: can strap her up to the rock and get her
Speaker 1: in the ladder match just to lose even you know,
Speaker 1: but and what is she I know, like the last
Speaker 1: time she like she attacked Tiffany, right, was that something
Speaker 1: I saw? Or was that wrong about that? She's in
Speaker 1: those videos.
Speaker 2: She's like she's talked to Tiffany like one one or
Speaker 2: two times in backstage she's attacked like a bunch of
Speaker 2: different people and talk to different people and like all
Speaker 2: the vackstage segments just like interacting with the different women
Speaker 2: on the roster. So it's kind of like, I do
Speaker 2: think she's probably gonna end up like like I said,
Speaker 2: like if they do do something like where Tiffany loses
Speaker 2: the time, Like I do kind of think they're building
Speaker 2: to Tiffany defending like against a bunch of people that
Speaker 2: like in like a four way or five way or
Speaker 2: something like that, and she might be one of those
Speaker 2: people in there because supposedly the plan was her and
Speaker 2: Tiffany at some or slam.
Speaker 1: Were right. I guess this happened too, right, And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like I would have taken that over the
Speaker 1: six woman, you know, like what we got tonight here
Speaker 1: like save that turn for raw SmackDown. But I digress
Speaker 1: and will quickly over this because we got some stuff
Speaker 1: locked Dan House and Dominic.
Speaker 2: I think Donic is winning.
Speaker 1: Do you think he gets a win?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no chance he's Yeah, I think Donica is winning here.
Speaker 1: Really you think Donald's gonna win, especially after he's been
Speaker 1: talking about w being like, I don't know how I
Speaker 1: feel this great of you know, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like he always does that. Well, then they know
Speaker 2: he's like never actually gonna leave, so they can just
Speaker 2: do what I really want to.
Speaker 1: How do you not think Dan Holston's gonna win his match?
Speaker 1: The human money's on a pole match, it's his match.
Speaker 2: I don't think so celebrity.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna get in there. We haven't had
Speaker 1: jelly roll. I don't. I feel like you're cooking some
Speaker 1: so I don't want a pizza bet you.
Speaker 2: But like I'm not like, I just I don't know,
Speaker 2: like that's just like I'm feeling like like I just
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, you and I say trick versus trick ones just
Speaker 1: Baron Corbin I I again, everybody put the rocket on
Speaker 1: a big Bishop Dier. Yeah, he gets like a gun
Speaker 1: through like run with the I'm all for people getting
Speaker 1: money and the job. That's great and does' affect me
Speaker 1: too much because that's right now with the creative, I'm
Speaker 1: not watching weekly. But I just don't understand with all
Speaker 1: the town they have an XTA all town on the
Speaker 1: main roster, you have someone we always tell it was
Speaker 1: Carmelo Hayes. There's a bunch of people, right, A bunch
Speaker 1: of people are just sitting there. Baron Corbyn like a
Speaker 1: few years ago, was already like a d O, a
Speaker 1: like dead prospect, and it's just like you bring him
Speaker 1: back now, It's like why, like what do we do?
Speaker 1: I really I don't under.
Speaker 2: I mean I think that I think the reason is
Speaker 2: like they want Trick to work with someone who like
Speaker 2: who's like it's like save you know, they can trust
Speaker 2: this guy and he's like works like the Quinn essential
Speaker 2: like WW style, Like he's like he's like you know
Speaker 2: because he's like a PC, like he was in a
Speaker 2: Wrestlers before, so he's like, you know he's been there.
Speaker 2: You know he can work you know, WW against the
Speaker 2: WW heel. But I mean, yeah, definitely not the most
Speaker 2: interesting pick there.
Speaker 1: But that gives me more worried for Trick if they
Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna bring him Baron Corban to work them.
Speaker 1: You know, like there's nobody like I.
Speaker 2: Feel like I think, I mean they I think they
Speaker 2: already know what trick, like he has the aura, he
Speaker 2: has everything, but like the n ring is like he
Speaker 2: hasn't wrestled as much as some of the other US champions.
Speaker 1: No, well I remember, so yeah, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: doing that open imitations. Yeah, no you're not, Ye Davis
Speaker 1: is Glad Corby could play for he's firing and allar
Speaker 1: stakes gain. Yeah, the good friend, he's getting that money.
Speaker 1: This match clearly gonna be we know the winner, but
Speaker 1: I imagine the show stealer. Penta versus Chad Gale has
Speaker 1: a chance to depend on the time they could cut them.
Speaker 1: But I think aust Chad's getting the win. But I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to that match. And uh, you know, Channa'll
Speaker 1: got a good reception. I match. You think the same thing, right,
Speaker 1: Chad's gonna win?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And yeah it should be. It should
Speaker 2: be really good. Uh, they're for they their first match,
Speaker 2: like when Penta debuted was a really really great match,
Speaker 2: So yeah, this should be fun. I'm interesting. Obviously it's
Speaker 2: gonna be face versus face, but I think if they
Speaker 2: just kind of go all out, it doesn't really matter,
Speaker 2: like they just do like a big kind of like
Speaker 2: moves match. It doesn't really matter who who the face is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we already talk about Roman, well I
Speaker 1: tub about Roman stuff. But you think Roman's winning, right,
Speaker 1: Like there's no you don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think he's winning. Like honestly, this match,
Speaker 2: like I don't really have much into like the feud
Speaker 2: hasn't really moved me, Like I haven't really cared about
Speaker 2: this this match, and like I don't know, like the match,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I'm not expecting it really to
Speaker 2: be like amazing. I don't know why, like like I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe maybe they both will be like fully
Speaker 2: locked in, but I don't know, there's just something like
Speaker 2: missing to it for me where I'm just not that
Speaker 2: excited about it.
Speaker 1: I agree, And I'm somebody that was like why, like
Speaker 1: if you want to do this, they've been pitching it
Speaker 1: for your resume, saying as Cody's punk. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: save it for them, but it has felt off. Again.
Speaker 1: I think the formula probably would have been better if
Speaker 1: we had the original route right where Seth was the
Speaker 1: vision and Roman was.
Speaker 2: The baby, yeah, because the thing here is like and
Speaker 2: then they start trying to make like Seth the face,
Speaker 2: like they started with Seth does the face, and then
Speaker 2: they were the fans are like, we don't care, like
Speaker 2: Roman gets more money than you, and he's coolearly new
Speaker 2: he didn't remember.
Speaker 1: We talked about this in the Punk feud when he
Speaker 1: would cut these promos about oh, Punk does this and
Speaker 1: Punk does this and he doesn't care, and then Punk
Speaker 1: will just say the same like yeah, see, but like
Speaker 1: they didn't care, and I understood at the beginning, but
Speaker 1: it was like six months later or no, like a
Speaker 1: year and six months because Punk was hurt. And it's like,
Speaker 1: clearly you can see the crowd doesn't care that he left.
Speaker 1: They don't care that he might be a part. They
Speaker 1: don't care about Sam's name. Right, it's finding Sam is
Speaker 1: maybe more on a heel side. But it's like so
Speaker 1: when he started talking about this stuff like oh, he's
Speaker 1: not here, he's not doing this stuff, the people still cheer.
Speaker 1: They put up their fucking ones. You've got to find
Speaker 1: something else, and that's where just Seth.
Speaker 2: Makes They did that and then just like this week,
Speaker 2: they just went to like, Oh, I'm gonna beat you
Speaker 2: up in front of your family and you're just you're
Speaker 2: just my bitch now, And that was just like they
Speaker 2: just full one and he turned to like, yeah, you're
Speaker 2: gonna cheer.
Speaker 1: Ow now, yeah, And it's just it's odd. I think Seth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Seth has like a big anchor on right now. I
Speaker 1: really don't know. He needs like a like a speaking
Speaker 1: of Baron Corn, I'm not saying he needs a broke gimmick,
Speaker 1: but I'm just using the examples of him and the
Speaker 1: Young Bucks because a Young Bucks.
Speaker 2: Seth the US title Open Challenge run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've done everything with him, and I just like there,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's over, right, because I remember that's
Speaker 1: what the example was a couple of years ago. Like
Speaker 1: I thought it was over for the Bucks, like when
Speaker 1: they were doing the like the self repair and it
Speaker 1: felt like the crowd just I know, they said like,
Speaker 1: oh we wrestled that in purpose. Still the crowd really
Speaker 1: didn't care. They're like, you know what we're And then
Speaker 1: you had people that were still the punk fans that
Speaker 1: were resentment towards them. So it was like a lot
Speaker 1: of like fuck these guys, like whatever, and then they
Speaker 1: come back and now it's like it feels like they're
Speaker 1: as hot as I've ever been. I won't say the hottest,
Speaker 1: but like close to it. Right, So I know a
Speaker 1: set all takes as a good program character. I tagged
Speaker 1: him something. I just to know, like what could the
Speaker 1: something be? You know? And that's what some writer needs
Speaker 1: to figure out, because I now think after this good
Speaker 1: keep away from Roman and the blood line away for
Speaker 1: a long time, I don't think you could do anything
Speaker 1: with him and Cody because he's not a heel, like
Speaker 1: I think the vision was that saving grace and then
Speaker 1: all that the vision buckled. Unfortunately, it's just like and
Speaker 1: there's nothing worse than when you turn a guy heal
Speaker 1: and they come back and it's like, well, I'm actually
Speaker 1: a baby face again, and it's like, well it's you know,
Speaker 1: they did a Edge and Judgment day. It felt weird
Speaker 1: for a couple of months, but I appreciate Edge. He's
Speaker 1: like he came back, He's like, sorry, I was acting
Speaker 1: like a dick. I won't do that again. And then
Speaker 1: he's the baby face again, right, and I was like
Speaker 1: all right, But the problem is I think this has
Speaker 1: happened to Seth like multiple times in his career, and
Speaker 1: I just really don't know what then not say the
Speaker 1: crowd and sheer or like him. I think the more
Speaker 1: of the match will at least be like a four star.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's him. It's not just it
Speaker 1: is this program, but it's him. He needs He needs
Speaker 1: something and I don't He needs something or someone and
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. I don't know looking
Speaker 1: at the roster, like a brand change is gonna be
Speaker 1: that because you can't go to smackdel punk again, God forbid.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what it is. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's not tru.
Speaker 2: I honestly think they had something with like him and
Speaker 2: montes Ford, like as a team or in some sort
Speaker 2: of fashion.
Speaker 1: Oh God, so you're gonna tell me Montesfortz gets out
Speaker 1: of the free prophets going to another team. Come on,
Speaker 1: let the man, let the man get singles run here.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know even just like the dynamic
Speaker 2: they had, Like I don't know, I feel like it's
Speaker 2: something like that, Like maybe Seth like in some sort
Speaker 2: of team is the answer, but I don't know if too,
Speaker 2: like like it's something where it just like completely changed,
Speaker 2: like not on like the same level, because it's like
Speaker 2: a whole different situation, but like in like the the
Speaker 2: Charlet's the sort of way where like they gave him
Speaker 2: like a tack team and just like hold like change
Speaker 2: their image completely.
Speaker 1: And I just don't know who that is because I
Speaker 1: I don't want to get to the point where it
Speaker 1: feels like the Jericho thing where it's just finds somebody
Speaker 1: or just stick.
Speaker 2: With Seth making his own like a painmaker type get makeer.
Speaker 1: I can see in the makeup. That's what it's stupid.
Speaker 1: Character was when he's taking people's eyeballs out pretty much
Speaker 1: back there with.
Speaker 2: Ray you know, yeah, the Monday Night Messiah God, that
Speaker 2: was an all really people are supposed to real like
Speaker 2: eliminates himself in a Survivor series.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: That's definitely like painmaker coda.
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, I was, you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: That's what it's like.
Speaker 2: Because Adam with the aop there too, it was AFP
Speaker 2: but he and Austin theory was in.
Speaker 1: There for a what started like some potential. But you
Speaker 1: know that's why again, never win Baron Corman, get trick,
Speaker 1: do the swamp, get him on raw, have Seth work
Speaker 1: with him for three months, like, hey, you're gonna want
Speaker 1: our sess wing. You guys are gonna hop a tail
Speaker 1: this or something, and you're gonna like you're gonna learn
Speaker 1: some more stuff fromhim, you know, buddy, Yeah, yeah that
Speaker 1: can be something, but we'll see you track that. But again,
Speaker 1: I actually do think they will pull out a good match,
Speaker 1: and please like the thing they did tonight, Nozill fought
Speaker 1: to know nothing. If market this is this is the
Speaker 1: last time, then let them fucking just go out and
Speaker 1: just had the match. Roman beats him and maybe even
Speaker 1: shake hands or something. I don't know. I like this.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what tweet I saw, so I can't
Speaker 1: create the person. Do you think anyone will hit a
Speaker 1: death rider in this match?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I hope it happens. I hope it happens. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what. I would love that both did it,
Speaker 1: but I would I would love it if one of
Speaker 1: them did, you know. And again that's something too where
Speaker 1: it's just like.
Speaker 2: It's you know what, I couldn't. I don't think. I
Speaker 2: don't see the death writer, but I think Seth could
Speaker 2: do like the DDT just like the normal true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that, like or like the whe
Speaker 1: when he locks the arms like.
Speaker 2: The yeah, like like that. Yeah, the Dirty Dead's DDT
Speaker 2: done dirt cheap.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people do that. Well, I mean
Speaker 2: that's a you know, that was Blake Monroe's first study
Speaker 2: you finisher, like Cory Jades finisher, she did that. Well,
Speaker 2: she does it because she's a she's Dean Ambrose fan,
Speaker 2: so and it does make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's talk about I see this last.
Speaker 2: The comment here about a big cast. We haven't talked
Speaker 2: about that because he's debuting on RAW. I mean, what
Speaker 2: what what is he gonna do?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is he just gonna like well, I mean there's two options.
Speaker 2: Either he beats up Chad Gable or you know, he
Speaker 2: beats up big room. We're running that back twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: ten years later. Yeah, you don't see a big big cast.
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? Get that out of there.
Speaker 1: In no way he's working big bro, There's no fucking way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be exactly what happened with Russev,
Speaker 1: like that, he gonna come in, get a little heat
Speaker 1: and then he'll just be around and not much going on.
Speaker 1: Are they not doing him and Enzo?
Speaker 2: I thought that was the whole thing, supposedly, supposedly supposedly
Speaker 2: not like like though all the video packages and stuff
Speaker 2: has been like he's doing it on his own, like
Speaker 2: he's coming back a new man. But I can't really
Speaker 2: tell if he's supposed to be a healer of face.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we'll see who he attacks.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this big cast here, Oh he's thirty nine,
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, I really do. Yeah, I think attacking
Speaker 1: Chad Gables the way to go. I think you do that.
Speaker 1: Heat him up for a little bit. Maybe maybe put
Speaker 1: him with Seth that sas new partner, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just set you know all the jerk game.
Speaker 2: It's like Seth makes this well. I was gonna say
Speaker 2: Seth Seth learning tree as the vision, like I remember,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you did say that on the promo
Speaker 2: of him saying like bron is under his learning tree,
Speaker 2: and people were meaning that.
Speaker 1: So I don't even have me talk about Bronny either.
Speaker 1: That's some bad ship. I'm seeing my time every Monday.
Speaker 1: Egacy screached all.
Speaker 2: The clips of them, like the backstage segments, just standing
Speaker 2: there with this tag title.
Speaker 1: It's brutal. And again we never know how much that
Speaker 1: show is real. We didn't talk about it. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch this year for that whole Like, well, we don't
Speaker 1: want bron to win the rum al though, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna stuck up people's throats. You fucking kidding me, man, Like,
Speaker 1: there's some bad there's some bad people. It's the real
Speaker 1: thing if it's a real, like an actual thing, not
Speaker 1: just like a fake real Shoot, that's a real thing.
Speaker 1: There's some bad people back there. There's bad stuff going on.
Speaker 1: But speaking of bad stuff, let's talk about aw Redemption,
Speaker 1: which everyone's held as the worst eight show of the year,
Speaker 1: which I could I agree with. Now, granted it's definitely
Speaker 1: on a scale, you know, because again this is where
Speaker 1: I am. I'm not trying to be that, but when
Speaker 1: you have this on Sunday and then the next day
Speaker 1: you got Ryan Garcia, Pound round Down Hanson and John
Speaker 1: Henry and like, I'm gonna take this poor aw Ridge
Speaker 1: show every day of the week. But yeah, it was
Speaker 1: one of these shows. It was exactly like people meaned upon.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no way out. It was a fast Lane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: need to be there. It's because, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: Aw's had a good year and they've had some shows
Speaker 1: that have like done better virus than they thought. So
Speaker 1: I think Tony's just going like, hey, how can we
Speaker 1: make more money? But I think there was two big
Speaker 1: problems here, and I know lots of people. It's it's
Speaker 1: so funny the online stuff of sometimes people don't fall
Speaker 1: scoops or whatnot, but like so many people calling mgf
Speaker 1: out and there was like Dave and someone else is
Speaker 1: like he's fucking hurt, like like why would he work?
Speaker 1: Like so there's this trending tweet where it's like he
Speaker 1: really fucked this show over and he really would. It's
Speaker 1: just like every like his knees all banged up. So
Speaker 1: that's what it's one. Like, Yes, Kenny winning the town
Speaker 1: here would have been bigger. It would have been a
Speaker 1: build up, and it would have been the idea of hey,
Speaker 1: I think because you were locked in that and we're
Speaker 1: all locked in now that Kenny is somehow gonna get
Speaker 1: to the title picture. But still would have been like
Speaker 1: you know, no for sure, right with Kenny and M Jeff.
Speaker 1: It could have been just M Jeff beats him, he'll move.
Speaker 1: But with Kevin Knight and Kenny, you knew for sure
Speaker 1: nothing was happening. I actually really fucking loved this match.
Speaker 1: The reason I love this match is because Kenny just
Speaker 1: at one point became like due Japan there. I can't
Speaker 1: remember the sequence he hit something, and then he became
Speaker 1: new Japan Kenny where he was just talking shit to him.
Speaker 1: He's like, you're not ready, kid, You're not even as
Speaker 1: good as you say you are. You know you're never
Speaker 1: gonna be me, and he's just like hit him with
Speaker 1: v triggers. And what I loved is Kevin Knight didn't
Speaker 1: have like a hot fire comeback because he's a heel.
Speaker 1: He was just like, there was like three minutes where
Speaker 1: he's just getting beat up. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw like all the selling cliffs of Kevin Knight
Speaker 2: where he was just getting like, yeah, thrown around by Kenny.
Speaker 1: At one point he just threw them over the table.
Speaker 1: And Kevin Knight looked so fucking pathetic. He looked like
Speaker 1: a little kid. But that's what because he is a heel,
Speaker 1: it looked great because it looked like a young boy thing.
Speaker 1: It looked like you're not ready for this and that's
Speaker 1: what it should be. But it was still a really
Speaker 1: great match for that, again the same way I said
Speaker 1: with Summer, Simon, Punk and Cody was great. That really
Speaker 1: could raise that show for me. So the show ended
Speaker 1: on like a well, okay, actually didn't but like the
Speaker 1: match ended on like a high note for me. But again, yes,
Speaker 1: m Jeff and Kenny would have been bigger. I think
Speaker 1: a big mistake. But I guess it's tough too because
Speaker 1: Taqusha's in the g one. But I do think Kyle
Speaker 1: and Takesha should have been here, but then he's in
Speaker 1: the g one, so maybe you can't do that. So
Speaker 1: this did feel like one of those things where it
Speaker 1: is like a all like a fine book show, but
Speaker 1: the town has to raise the levels up. I think
Speaker 1: they only could do so much with this show, and
Speaker 1: there was some bad stuff in here. The Dogs match
Speaker 1: fucking sucked, and again tum about bad stuff. What is
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 2: Like he can't report to that supposedly after this match
Speaker 2: he's a banged.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, I saw and they said, hopefully it's not
Speaker 1: too bad. Injury man, this sucks. He's just injury promy.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but still he didn't lose the match
Speaker 1: because he was injured. They had him lose to the dog.
Speaker 1: So the dog has been drawing everybody. I don't care
Speaker 1: that they cheated with the Shealeley and the jeath right
Speaker 1: is going involved.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's funny, like they're in a chain match,
Speaker 2: but like the finish was a chilly like you could
Speaker 2: have just hit him in the head with the chains
Speaker 2: like wrapped up or something or like I don't know
Speaker 2: what his finisher is, but you know, like wrapper knee
Speaker 2: or fist and the chains and hit him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so and that's why I have a lot
Speaker 1: of problems. It's so weird, right because I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: over some of this. Was there anything of this show
Speaker 1: you watched?
Speaker 2: I watched, I think just the women's matches.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll lead those lasts because actually the women's
Speaker 1: I actually have really no problems with right now. Funny enough,
Speaker 1: I actually think that's the best thing going right now.
Speaker 1: But I'll say that where the bad stuff is. I
Speaker 1: mentioned that stuff Bandido. We've talked about four I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna rant. The roh stuff is a fucking disaster. This
Speaker 1: is why even the Athenas stuff It's like, I don't
Speaker 1: care that they have these long running RAH titles because
Speaker 1: they lose to all these people Bandido every three weeks.
Speaker 1: He gets built up and he just loses. He has
Speaker 1: this great match, but it's almost hard for me to
Speaker 1: invest in the match because I just know he's just
Speaker 1: gonna lose. You have this, which is a huge right
Speaker 1: for me, this fucking six way title match, title match
Speaker 1: for not even for the world title, it's for the
Speaker 1: International title. So for Kryle Fletcher's title. Mike Bailly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so contendership he wins. That's great, cool, Mike Bailey, he
Speaker 1: can give you a great match him. I thought you're
Speaker 1: gonna kill it. So then that not even a few
Speaker 1: weeks later the next show, after Commander gets a title shot,
Speaker 1: Jack Perry and Nick Way for different titles, but still
Speaker 1: now Jack Parry, Nickway and get title shots, and all
Speaker 1: these other titles are all we have fifteen secondary titles,
Speaker 1: so it's the same ranking. It's not like they've said, hey,
Speaker 1: it's the aw title and then the International and then
Speaker 1: the rest are all lower.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: John mox is walking around the thing, it's the world title.
Speaker 1: He's literally doing like the seampunk World like he did
Speaker 1: this whole speech of like no one can ever beat
Speaker 1: me for this, and I want you all that's what
Speaker 1: we got this fucking tournament now, which is like, why
Speaker 1: why is he in this tournament? Why are we doing
Speaker 1: another tournament? That's my biggest pet peeve right now is
Speaker 1: there's like I didn't even watch com I watched Commander
Speaker 1: Maxley barely because I'm just like, I'm getting annoyed of
Speaker 1: I understood when we started AW and they did the
Speaker 1: wins and losses records, and I understood the pros and
Speaker 1: the cons that why some people didn't like that, like
Speaker 1: the interim titles, but we need to find some bounce
Speaker 1: because like it literally feels like wins and losses mean
Speaker 1: nothing right now with these secondary titles are just they
Speaker 1: lose them Oxley, great, you, then you go on to
Speaker 1: lose a Fletcher, Then you go on to lose them
Speaker 1: you know now on draw day and it's just like
Speaker 1: that's why I can't like it. And it's weird because
Speaker 1: it felt like AW steam was really picking up, and
Speaker 1: it just feels like they are like they're just like
Speaker 1: holding on till all in and they just don't They're
Speaker 1: just like buying time and even some of the Kenny
Speaker 1: of Oscar stuff will get to But it's just it's
Speaker 1: my biggest and planative right now. It's the secondary not
Speaker 1: having so many secondary titles it sucks. But these people
Speaker 1: just like losing and there's not even like they're not contenders,
Speaker 1: and not any point do I think command who's gonna
Speaker 1: beat John Moxley or Kyle Fletcher. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's I don't know what the fixes,
Speaker 1: and I don't think there is a fix because I
Speaker 1: think Tk's just like, well, if it's a good match,
Speaker 1: it's good, right, Like that'll overcome it. But like I
Speaker 1: feel like that's not happening right now. Christian Cope, they
Speaker 1: beat Deaf Fries, which was actually a fun match. I
Speaker 1: like their matches didn't need to be eighteen minutes. No,
Speaker 1: not the long matches here and Rodd again the toel
Speaker 1: that's great, see what happens there. I really don't know
Speaker 1: what they're doing with MGF. I really wonder if, like
Speaker 1: I know he's planning to work it, but I really
Speaker 1: wonder if his knees not like good to go. I
Speaker 1: don't know, because again it doesn't he make sense story wise,
Speaker 1: why he go up for Andrade ANDRODDI didn't screw him
Speaker 1: at the title that was Ospray Osprey took the ring
Speaker 1: from him, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean with m JF. Yeah, at first
Speaker 2: I thought like, I think maybe if he wasn't injured
Speaker 2: TV working on Rodi and uh Mexico, I feel like,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't really know what m jeff is
Speaker 2: gonna do it all in because I was also thinking
Speaker 2: like maybe like Hangman or something like that, or but
Speaker 2: now Hangman's probably gonna do like a trio as all
Speaker 2: in or or maybe like honestly, I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: do like I think Hangman and that crew that he's
Speaker 2: a building are going to be involved in like a
Speaker 2: like an anarchy in the arena stadium Stampede type thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be it. Yeah, I think they like
Speaker 1: I say, like.
Speaker 2: The like the well I guess the demand They were
Speaker 2: in the last to stay in Stampede, but they could
Speaker 2: be in there again. But yeah, it'll be like Hangman and.
Speaker 1: The Writers aka Combat Club, like you know, yeah, you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: they call themselves the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
Speaker 1: Supposedly what they're going to be, which is so funny
Speaker 1: because like, I don't know if you're around for this,
Speaker 1: but one of the biggest fantasy bookings was a team
Speaker 1: of Hangman Bandido and who's the other guy, Brian Keith, Yes,
Speaker 1: and all of them are always social media. I love do.
Speaker 1: I love to do that, so I love they're doing that.
Speaker 1: But they replaced Brian Keith Broan King was no cowboy
Speaker 1: gimmick whatsoever. But you know, it's fine. And I saw that.
Speaker 2: I was like, I guess this is what I remember
Speaker 2: Brian Keith like he wrestled like on Collision, like like
Speaker 2: three months ago or something in like a completely different
Speaker 2: gimmick and yeah, and then it was just like never
Speaker 2: mentioned again.
Speaker 1: He had this like very like fine match and that's
Speaker 1: what Moxley does. That's and I called it. I said,
Speaker 1: there's no way Max is not doing a singles match.
Speaker 1: From the cardon, He's doing a singles match, and they're
Speaker 1: doing real.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be him and Nigel at all
Speaker 2: in god what, Yeah, because Nigel's in the tournament and
Speaker 2: because and he's gonna get the belt too, because he's
Speaker 2: never gonna wrestle in ro O, Michigan. When he loses.
Speaker 1: Oh god.
Speaker 2: I just feel like and people noticed that they've been
Speaker 2: putting uh, Paul White on a collision commentary like as
Speaker 2: a three man booth. So people are thinking like I
Speaker 2: just gonna win, and uh, that's your new commentator there.
Speaker 1: My hope is that he's gonna be the same brack
Speaker 1: and they're just hype it because I saw Moxley did
Speaker 1: call him out. But they're gonna be same bracket. It's
Speaker 1: just like a match or a seven.
Speaker 2: I think that's the I think that's all in match
Speaker 2: like Wembley.
Speaker 1: I Nigel still good, Like he's still good, but he's not.
Speaker 1: He's not who used to be. It's just like that
Speaker 1: man mocks this is Nigel.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd have to look at the rest of
Speaker 2: the tournament to see, but so far, it's like I
Speaker 2: think it is just like all the congloboration, like I
Speaker 2: guess Orange Cassidy, Roddy Strow, Kyle O'Reilly. It's like that
Speaker 2: tier of guys in there. I mean, Commander's Arealy gonna
Speaker 2: be in there? Who else? Like who else is like
Speaker 2: on that? You get that tier like Mark Brisco you know,
Speaker 2: getting another other title put him in there.
Speaker 1: That can't see the match. There's no way that came.
Speaker 1: Like I don't not saying you're.
Speaker 2: Wrong, but like I don't know because like are any
Speaker 2: of those other guys, like even just like on paper,
Speaker 2: like it's like a stadium match that.
Speaker 1: Was sixteen, So there's still gonna be some people we
Speaker 1: don't know about, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so, but still like I feel like
Speaker 2: if you're every yeah, I mean, the rumor is like
Speaker 2: a lot of people are gonna be in that men's
Speaker 2: casino gauntlet, So I would.
Speaker 1: Rather Monsley be in there, Like man, I just I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm so.
Speaker 2: Moxley just retains it at all in Holden is his
Speaker 2: cup and the title.
Speaker 1: And now if you like, what's the oh, because.
Speaker 2: It's the Continental Cup, you don't just what if you
Speaker 2: win the tournament, you win the title and you win
Speaker 2: this new Continental Cup. That's what the tournament is, the
Speaker 2: Continental Cup tournament, and if you win, you win the
Speaker 2: Continental Cup. They showed it in the video Package's like
Speaker 2: a big silver trophy.
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, I actually think Max is winning. I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 2: Also, if you lose in this tournament as the champion,
Speaker 2: I assume you lose your title so then I guess
Speaker 2: every single one of these matches the tournament will be
Speaker 2: a title match for Max. Then he's just the farming
Speaker 2: uh these defensive if we had an aw draft, you know,
Speaker 2: actually be like a cop back.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's just he's like, oh this
Speaker 1: will do. We gonna cup and like like I just no,
Speaker 1: probably will lose because he will be Osprey's first defense.
Speaker 1: Right because you didn't watch on Wednesday, but it very
Speaker 1: much was that we can talk about this stuff. It
Speaker 1: very much was like, Okay, we're not gonna settle this down,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna settle this down the road. Because it
Speaker 1: was way too easy for the death writers, who are
Speaker 1: apparently psychle killers, can be like, okay, go down your
Speaker 1: own path. Will I guess what you're gonna do. No, Moxley,
Speaker 1: try to fucking murder Brian Danielson on TV. He's just
Speaker 1: gonna be like see you later, will So no, I
Speaker 1: think they just I think luckily, whether it was in
Speaker 1: the plans works. We know all these bookers read online, right,
Speaker 1: I think they saw enough. He'll be like Asprea cannot
Speaker 1: win this title one, there's enough Peel saying Osprea can't
Speaker 1: win this title in general right now. But two, most
Speaker 1: people are like, even if you want to, he cannot
Speaker 1: win the title with the death writers around.
Speaker 2: There's no way, right, what else saying like last shot
Speaker 2: of all In is a him with the title being
Speaker 2: held up by Daniel Garcia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where again to that before I forget,
Speaker 1: I did really appreciate when they tried to kill Kenny Omega,
Speaker 1: if you'll forgot when they killed Brian Park brought in
Speaker 1: Utah for a hug and like hold him against his will.
Speaker 1: I know you're not a Utah lover. I thought you.
Speaker 1: It was great here he like brought Will for a hug.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, this is something like I got him. No,
Speaker 1: like it's it's supposed to be comedy. He's like, I
Speaker 1: got on you go ahead, and then like Will breaks
Speaker 1: out of his grass really easily. It was such a
Speaker 1: good call back. And again you just like solo, maybe
Speaker 1: there's a there's a great comedic wrestler that just brewing there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they did some bloodline uh def Riversoner, which again,
Speaker 1: man if Max was back in w could you imagine
Speaker 1: the Max the match Moxley would have. I know he
Speaker 1: probably did Den Ambrose again, but like, could you imagine
Speaker 1: that match be incredible and maybe match the like worst
Speaker 1: match to your candidate, Like.
Speaker 2: I mean, who would be like like the Death Writers
Speaker 2: and if Moxy.
Speaker 1: So Garcia could leave, which he should have. Now he's
Speaker 1: getting he got fucking killed by Osprey in two seconds
Speaker 1: on TV he confirms, you know what, he's a job
Speaker 1: He's a jobber, he's a death writer job like he
Speaker 1: and he's actually like worse than you to like you'd
Speaker 1: at least got like that like mixed tag pay per
Speaker 1: view match or whatever, like Grand Slam with the Marino
Speaker 1: when he got his head shaped like he's he's the
Speaker 1: bottom of that group, which is crazy because a bunch
Speaker 1: of us, myself include thought, oh, when he joins the
Speaker 1: Death Writers, that's gonna be the recipe. No, he should
Speaker 1: have went to fucking NXT and that's when he gave
Speaker 1: a lot more money. He should have went. He should
Speaker 1: have went.
Speaker 2: I feel like Tony definitely gave him a lot more
Speaker 2: money compared to Table No, like I know, but thinks
Speaker 2: everybody money that's like his thing.
Speaker 1: Well, but now the rumor is not so much who's
Speaker 1: Jack Parron? Who is the other person resigned. Oh with
Speaker 1: sam that's anything where that's the rumor. Now He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: Go I think Sammy hasn't. That was just like I
Speaker 2: guess in the end, it was just like a rumor
Speaker 2: or something like anything.
Speaker 1: Again, nothing's changed with this.
Speaker 2: But Tamela time Ella did did leave.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I do think Tony Hans stopped doing this
Speaker 1: stuff because I do agree with some people and like,
Speaker 1: I know, like we both self made. They put that
Speaker 1: there before where he was always worried about them going
Speaker 1: there and then breaking out. But it's like I think
Speaker 1: we've seen Ricky and a couple other people. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not a guaranteed thing now it's just like ww,
Speaker 1: it's like they're not gonna push everybody from aw now right.
Speaker 1: So it's like Tony doesn't have to pay these people
Speaker 1: elaborate money. And again, DJ get your bag, but like
Speaker 1: or did you get your bag? But just like what
Speaker 1: do you think you're just wasting away? You're just sitting
Speaker 1: in boiler rooms doing push ups and like dobbing out.
Speaker 1: Like again, he'll and then what happen is every couple
Speaker 1: of months he'll have a great match with somebody and
Speaker 1: was like oh yeah, Daniel chrisy you can go right,
Speaker 1: and then he's back there. So yeah, they wanted to
Speaker 1: kill Omega. He doesn't, he gets them out of there,
Speaker 1: Omega kills him. I didn't know where this is going.
Speaker 1: But the promo other than the gun meme aside, which
Speaker 1: it is funny, but like the Kenny Omega stuff was great.
Speaker 1: It is very much like it feels like they're trying
Speaker 1: to make him heal ish. But what happen is the
Speaker 1: match will be over those shake hands and we always
Speaker 1: loved you. I am very happy they've ditched the friends stuff,
Speaker 1: even they had to have will Osbury sag well friends
Speaker 1: no boy like they had to. It's so like obvious.
Speaker 1: But I've always said this, like I never understood why
Speaker 1: they made them. They're in the ring time about how
Speaker 1: they love each other. That's we never saw this on screen.
Speaker 1: This never happened. It's fake chemistry. So I'm very happy,
Speaker 1: even if it was in a rushed way and convoluted
Speaker 1: that they just dropped the friendship and Kenny actually like
Speaker 1: he's much better. I love Kenny Omega and I know
Speaker 1: I wants them to have a babyface run. People just
Speaker 1: gotta get on board. He's much better as an arrogant
Speaker 1: face as a baby face. He's a fine promo. The
Speaker 1: arrogant promo he cut on Wednesday when he was like
Speaker 1: an anime villain and he's just monologuing. God damn, he's
Speaker 1: so good. And when he slat Will the first time
Speaker 1: he slapped and wilcomes back, you can see Kenny's handprint
Speaker 1: on his face.
Speaker 2: Those those a vicious slap there, especially because Oscre was
Speaker 2: like mid mid talking there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was so good, so that heated up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm still very much looking forward to this match. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna What this reminds me a lot of
Speaker 1: is Sasha Bangs versus Bianca bell Air, where the lead
Speaker 1: up to it was fucking dog shit, but the match
Speaker 1: end up delivering. I feel like that's what this is
Speaker 1: gonna be, where the lead ups been very iffy, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna end up delivering. So we're you know, Osbury's
Speaker 1: gonna win. That's I know a lot of people are
Speaker 1: meaning and they want Kenny to beat him, but like
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. You know why, because they shouldn't
Speaker 1: go back to Wimbley next year. They're all like they're not.
Speaker 1: They're it's they're having hardest time ever and that market.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should not go ever, but to
Speaker 1: be like their big event like all in go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: I mean I even thought like the Year Away was
Speaker 2: gonna help with the Texas, but not really. I mean
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, like they can definitely like at a minimum,
Speaker 2: like even just announcing the show, like tickets go on sale.
Speaker 2: They can pretty much like auto sell like thirty K.
Speaker 2: So I think it's best if they just like do
Speaker 2: different stadiums. They're just like a huge or like I
Speaker 2: don't know what the biggest capacity arenas in the world are,
Speaker 2: but like you can book other big stadiums and do well, and.
Speaker 1: Then you have to go to one with every time
Speaker 1: saying what if everyone keep saying the best crowd of year.
Speaker 1: Fucking aw Dynasty over the Vancouver, we fucking rocked to
Speaker 1: We have a stadium, the BC Lione Sam just across
Speaker 1: from the arena, come over here, come to Canada, like
Speaker 1: just mix it up a bit. But yeah, I we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. I think what's gonna happen is I
Speaker 1: do think Alan is going to be a great show.
Speaker 1: I think the cards, you know, look really strong. You know,
Speaker 1: we got the guns back. We'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: I think they we've talked about this before. It looks
Speaker 1: like they aretist doing the Bucks and edgend Christian. Maybe
Speaker 1: they'll do that Multiman stuff later on. I still I
Speaker 1: guess if you want Bucks to win, maybe that's why
Speaker 1: they're doing it. But I still thought that, you know,
Speaker 1: the history of wrestling take teams way to go, but
Speaker 1: they still should if Tony Khan doesn't book a four
Speaker 1: way of or five way, because I the FTR is
Speaker 1: actually still signed with AW. I didn't know that. I
Speaker 1: thought they were done, but they're not.
Speaker 2: They're still sign They're just like on a break because
Speaker 2: they're like I think I mentioned us on the last
Speaker 2: game of like I was watching an interview with them
Speaker 2: that they're like pretty banged up and they're just like
Speaker 2: taking a break for like I think they said, like
Speaker 2: the first time, like if it's like the first time
Speaker 2: like non injury, they've like ever taken a break and
Speaker 2: wrestling or something like.
Speaker 1: That's the And that's why I wonder if they were around,
Speaker 1: if you would have got the big tag team match.
Speaker 1: But I would see T.
Speaker 2: They are even working like they're working like a rev
Speaker 2: pro show, like like all in weekend in London, so
Speaker 2: they're like they might like pop up at all in
Speaker 2: in some sort of way.
Speaker 1: But yeah, to me, TK, I'm not gonna call you
Speaker 1: anything if you know you're making good investments or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but like, if you don't do this new
Speaker 1: Day aka day Break versus Guns versus Box with the
Speaker 1: Educa's f TR, may.
Speaker 2: They even do it like at all all out like
Speaker 2: you have them all de view it all in and
Speaker 2: then it's like we're gonna they could that could be
Speaker 2: like an all out main event. If you're not doing
Speaker 2: like Osprey versus Mox, like right away it all out,
Speaker 2: then no they're gonna. I mean it is possible because
Speaker 2: now all out with like a.
Speaker 1: Month Wednesday, that fucking plastic bag's coming out and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, we got this legendary take team match.
Speaker 1: That could be an event, right Like I don't think so,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll be Andy's been working on this for
Speaker 1: a while. I was like, all right, Ox leg old,
Speaker 1: we'll give We'll give you the match and then here
Speaker 1: we go and again, Hey, I liked that Dynasty match,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. But yeah, and then on
Speaker 1: the women's side, we had my World beat Cheeta, which
Speaker 1: is incredible because Tony Kahan has been a merchant for
Speaker 1: never like many times not falling up on someone's momentum.
Speaker 1: So that's great to see there. I was very worried.
Speaker 1: This is twice now that he's made me happy. Champa.
Speaker 1: I was very worried on Roh didn't even though another
Speaker 1: bad thing on his card. He did not need to
Speaker 1: lose to Jericho. I don't like seen this all in
Speaker 1: fantasy booking of Jerich overs Kevin Knight at all. I
Speaker 1: do not like that. Why do Jet Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just put Jet in the fucking just put him in
Speaker 1: the in the gall and I.
Speaker 2: We think of Ken Knight's new theme too. If people
Speaker 2: talking about it like.
Speaker 1: A time, I got to hear one more time because
Speaker 1: like to me, the thing is like the drop.
Speaker 2: The drop takes like way too long, Like he's like
Speaker 2: halfway down the ramp and it like hasn't dropped yet
Speaker 2: where it's like it kind of needs to be, Like
Speaker 2: you know, he walks out there, he does like a
Speaker 2: pose and then like the music drops, he was like
Speaker 2: it was still like loading up for a while.
Speaker 1: The thing that bugs me the most is his fucking
Speaker 1: gimmick is the one to look up to. But there's
Speaker 1: a number one and then number two in this tagline.
Speaker 1: It bugs the ship, like, no, you can't use two numbers,
Speaker 1: just use one of them. It's the one number one
Speaker 1: to look up two. It hugs me. And because this
Speaker 1: on the Redemption was on the huge time troun I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is that?
Speaker 2: Who designed it?
Speaker 1: You know that's what it is? So yeah, Jered I
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think Jericho. It's it's like
Speaker 1: he had a couple of good months and we were
Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, I think he's found a way
Speaker 1: to like smartly work and then he's like, no, I'm back,
Speaker 1: like I'm back to toy now, and it's just like
Speaker 1: pain Maker came out. He's being chopped with like Chomp
Speaker 1: was on the run of his career, like on the
Speaker 1: next Tea stuff. It was great. All he had so
Speaker 1: much momentum you could believe him as a Kenny Omega
Speaker 1: like challenger, like that's you could believe that he could
Speaker 1: maybe even win the a W world title. For like
Speaker 1: a month or two, and now it's like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: just lost to Jericho on pay per view. Great but yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: back to the women my world she has that. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what's gonna happen all in. I hope they
Speaker 1: give her on that.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be like like uh four. I
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be like her versus uh stat Lander
Speaker 2: versus Sida versus Persephane.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, well think I get Persephane some wins there.
Speaker 1: You know she's been she's the new Bandido, She's the Bandino.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could see that. I hope that happens.
Speaker 1: I even if what I would like if it's not
Speaker 1: Forsephonie and they have no plans with her because they
Speaker 1: know you talk about the storm stuff, but I would
Speaker 1: very much like tech Le to be in there. I'm
Speaker 1: the same way of like with MJF it felt weird.
Speaker 1: I understand a bit more now, but Techla it does
Speaker 1: feel weird that she had this good run. I think
Speaker 1: she got a littlementum and if she's just not on
Speaker 1: the all card, to me, that's super fucking weird. So
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to reserve judgment because they know they're doing
Speaker 1: a lot with that stardom stuff and maybe there's something there.
Speaker 1: But if there's nothing, I would say, then just give
Speaker 1: her a spot because she's worked hard and she's gonna
Speaker 1: say she's going on for that title. It's clearly the
Speaker 1: same thing like Monain uh will. It's not a triple threat,
Speaker 1: like that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: A one on one, right, So yeah, you know yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I guess, well we can talk about that
Speaker 2: a little bit later. But yeah, the Maya and Cheetah,
Speaker 2: I didn't really think this was a good match, but
Speaker 2: I mean that's the kind of like even like Cheetah man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, sheida like she's she's washed, but some of
Speaker 2: the stuff she does I still literally like, like the
Speaker 2: knee strikes are still like they still pop me, even
Speaker 2: though she like just like walks around very slowly. It's
Speaker 2: not very good, but I don't know, I still enjoy
Speaker 2: watching your matches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was a fine match, and I still think, like
Speaker 1: I hate to be that guy. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be like Meltzer, who is still not rewatch this match,
Speaker 1: but like it happened in the Mercedes match, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: there's still few spots. It's like La Knightish where Mike
Speaker 1: gets like really excited and goes for something.
Speaker 2: I mean the thing she's she's only like been wrestling
Speaker 2: for like three years or something like that.
Speaker 1: And that's where completely I'm not that worried like Ellie Nightworth,
Speaker 1: Oh man, you're still doing this stuff. No. I to me,
Speaker 1: she just feels like a almost rookie who's just got
Speaker 1: a lot of heat, So go with her, and I'm
Speaker 1: completely fine. They can learn on the spot. I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, push your back.
Speaker 2: No. No, I mean even interesting enough, like the not
Speaker 2: the current like stardom like what would be their World championship,
Speaker 2: but the previous one, like the one who ended like
Speaker 2: their Top Stars reign, was like a rookie and it
Speaker 2: was like a like a shock win and then the
Speaker 2: whole run was like can they really like prove it
Speaker 2: against like the top people, and then they just lost
Speaker 2: like two months later. But I feel like it could
Speaker 2: be a similar thing for for my world, where like
Speaker 2: she gets this run and then for a while she's
Speaker 2: not like at the top again, but it's still like
Speaker 2: on the shows and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, no, I could see that it's hopefully
Speaker 1: the spot going. It'll be fun. And then yeah, you had, uh,
Speaker 1: Willow beat Tekla in a in a good match, but
Speaker 1: Techla's matches continue to have like weird finishes. I hated
Speaker 1: that she just got.
Speaker 2: I don't get. I don't I don't get why Willow
Speaker 2: couldn't just like pin her with her finisher. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: it just felt weird. I'm not taking I mean she
Speaker 2: took it like earlier in the match, so I don't know,
Speaker 2: it is very weird.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep me strong. Feels like a Moxley finished,
Speaker 1: like I'll lose the back I'll use the backslide, but
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not putting them over. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: that happened. And it's funny because we talked about this before,
Speaker 1: right when we were like when Willow was originally in
Speaker 1: the tournament and it looked like she's gonna win him, like, well,
Speaker 1: how like what's Mercedes doing? And then Dave them talked
Speaker 1: about how well the original plan now because when the
Speaker 1: original plan was for Mercedes to win the title and
Speaker 1: Willow to win the tournament, and then because she got hurt,
Speaker 1: they flipped it. So that's where we had mercedeses with
Speaker 1: tournament winner and Willow as the world champion. So I
Speaker 1: think I'm up two minds where the title win. I
Speaker 1: thought the match was good. I think the finish was meager,
Speaker 1: but then I think the promo with Mercedes really saved it.
Speaker 1: And I'll give credit because you know gold Player season
Speaker 1: chat there he took his nephew. See the crowd, I
Speaker 1: don't know why this random Detroit crowd was just fucking
Speaker 1: on fire this week, like the whole all the matches
Speaker 1: were fired, but specifically for Willow. She was like fucking
Speaker 1: like two thousand and twenty one Cody Rhodes over there.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, like I don't know what was going on,
Speaker 1: and like it was, there's a great momentere Mercedes like
Speaker 1: making fun of her, and then she looked at the
Speaker 1: crown Willow point. There's just that sign of the people
Speaker 1: like they were spelled Willow multiple things. It Unfortunately, it
Speaker 1: reminded me of Mercedes and Britt Baker's first promo. Now, luckily,
Speaker 1: I know the match is gonna be better, but I
Speaker 1: remember being like, man, we're going all in and what
Speaker 1: a great promo, and then that happened.
Speaker 2: And we talked about that. Well, actually I think that
Speaker 2: might have been. It might have been in Detroit too.
Speaker 2: I think that promocause there's someone I follow who's in
Speaker 2: Detroit who always posts like clips of all the shows
Speaker 2: he's been to, and I feel like recently posted a
Speaker 2: clip of one of those promos, So it might have
Speaker 2: been in Detroit too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that Yeah, it would be funny you found that.
Speaker 1: But no, this promo worked miles and it's just like
Speaker 1: it may they won't do it because of Osprey, but
Speaker 1: this promo had Kenny did deliver to so I'll say
Speaker 1: that I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, you see the you see the the YouTube
Speaker 2: views on those promos, like Kenny and Osprey had like
Speaker 2: got like fifty k viewers, and the Willow and Merceesa
Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty k. On like the Age
Speaker 2: I think it was on. I don't think I was
Speaker 2: on the official one, but it was like the Bleacher
Speaker 2: Report channeler or something like the No it was.
Speaker 1: It just had the fire, and I hope they can
Speaker 1: keep that going. Luckily, it's only like now like we're
Speaker 1: I think under third Yeah, we're under thirty days to
Speaker 1: all in, so I think they can. But it it
Speaker 1: I was always sold because like they can do a
Speaker 1: good match. I was surprised that's throughout they're going. But no,
Speaker 1: I thought this problem was fantastic. I think the crowd
Speaker 1: helped a lot. I think Mercedes came up as a
Speaker 1: terrible hill. What do you what do you think about
Speaker 1: any of this stuff with the match Willow Mercedes and
Speaker 1: then also who do you thinks winning this early prediction? Uh?
Speaker 2: For for the match of will and Teckler, like the
Speaker 2: will of.
Speaker 1: States, Yeah, start there and work your way up to
Speaker 1: the Yeah.
Speaker 2: For the match, I thought it was a fun time.
Speaker 2: It was good. It wasn't anything crazy like I said.
Speaker 2: The finish, like I said, the finish was like weird
Speaker 2: with the backslide. It didn't feel like a huge like
Speaker 2: crowning moment for Willow with that, which was she was the.
Speaker 1: Champ defending, not winning her first world title, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, and sky Blue was out there doing
Speaker 2: interference and no Julia Hart because she's in a in
Speaker 2: Japan right now. But uh uh yeah, the match it
Speaker 2: was it was good, like I enjoyed it, but definitely
Speaker 2: kind of left a bit to be desired. I would say,
Speaker 2: I guess just going to like what Techles going to
Speaker 2: do out all In. I don't really know, Like they
Speaker 2: haven't announced the women's Gauntlet, at least I didn't see,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if they're going to do one
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 1: Because you had that theory, you were thinking they might
Speaker 1: do something to start them.
Speaker 2: They right, because you yeah, because they're the trios champions
Speaker 2: in startup. Uh and I thought they, I mean they
Speaker 2: might do something like very last minute, like a free
Speaker 2: show or something. I don't know, but uh uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't really know what she would do besides that
Speaker 2: unless she's just completely gone and returns like after all
Speaker 2: In or something like that.
Speaker 1: Terrible.
Speaker 2: Uh. And then for will and Mercedes, yeah, I definitely
Speaker 2: agree with like the build up has been just with
Speaker 2: that one week been good already. I'm excited for that
Speaker 2: trios match they're gonna have of the Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: Willow and the brawling Birds against Mercedes and Divine Dominion, which.
Speaker 1: They need to Again, people are mean because it was
Speaker 1: a very like sexualized group, but they should have saw
Speaker 1: Mercedes and then be like a like a three group,
Speaker 1: like a three lady group, like like there is something.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, when they won that Trios tag,
Speaker 1: it was like there's something here. We don't know what
Speaker 1: it is, but there there's there's some some magic here
Speaker 1: you could keep keep going with. So uh, we'll see that.
Speaker 1: I like that they keep keeping them together right now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and for the match it all in. I
Speaker 2: mean I kind of feel like like Willow has to
Speaker 2: retain it all in is what I'm thinking. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I think with Mercedes you could, like I think
Speaker 2: she could end up being the chimp like by the
Speaker 2: end of the year. But I think with this story,
Speaker 2: you have to have Willow win this first match.
Speaker 1: It's tough because it's like and we know which way
Speaker 1: the kennyo Osprey things going, but it feels like that
Speaker 1: right where like oh, Kenny, you just want the title.
Speaker 1: You can get get a few defenses in, but then
Speaker 1: it's gonna lose it. Same thing for Willow, do you.
Speaker 2: I think I think if Willow retains and like and
Speaker 2: her and Mercedes have like a great, great match, that's
Speaker 2: like you're like cementing Willow as like just like the
Speaker 2: the number one, like Bayface.
Speaker 1: And even though when Mercedes came to the aw she
Speaker 1: to beat her for the TVs title. I think there
Speaker 1: is something that you can do a you know, this
Speaker 1: person always has your number sort of deal, right, and
Speaker 1: she that was even the part of the promo where
Speaker 1: it's like all my accomplishments always have like this asterisk,
Speaker 1: and it's you like, for some reason, you kind of
Speaker 1: keep butting into the history I'm making. So I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting of like Mercedes should win. I you're right,
Speaker 1: she could win the World Tell before the end the year,
Speaker 1: but like you do maybe want to say it for
Speaker 1: that big show, but like she can't win Owen for
Speaker 1: a third time, right, But it's also tricky because she
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to and like even then, I guess the
Speaker 1: idea was she was supposed to the original planet, she
Speaker 1: was gonna win it before all in, right, so that
Speaker 1: they don't even feel like they have to wait till
Speaker 1: all in for Mercedes to get the title, Like you
Speaker 1: were talking about she could win it before the end
Speaker 1: of the year. So I think I am under the
Speaker 1: impression that Willow is gonna win. But I think with
Speaker 1: that knowledge of they did plan for Mercedes to win
Speaker 1: the tow at some point and her winning the Owen
Speaker 1: for a second time, Like do you want to repeat
Speaker 1: that story of her and Tony where she wins the
Speaker 1: you know, wins the Owen goes there and then loses.
Speaker 1: That's why I think makes the match interesting though, because
Speaker 1: I think you go either way. But I think I'm
Speaker 1: also in the Willow camp. I think she's gonna retain here.
Speaker 1: I think it helps Willow more to win than it
Speaker 1: would help Mercedes to win. Here. Mercedes can always win
Speaker 1: at some point, but Mercedes is like already fully cemented, right,
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about that where Willow she is,
Speaker 1: but like with this momentum, she's again right now, you
Speaker 1: could really keep that going. So yeah, yeah, anything else
Speaker 1: from aw side, we've missed him talking about.
Speaker 2: Uh, I guess you have the Athena you know next
Speaker 2: to Roh Defense announced the gonna be a Hazuki from stardom,
Speaker 2: which she was in the h Owen tournament that had
Speaker 2: the really great match with the Mercedes, and she's one
Speaker 2: where like like usually in stardom, like fans of any
Speaker 2: wrestler like don't want them to leave, but like for Azukier,
Speaker 2: fans like just like don't like her booking and stardom
Speaker 2: and want her to leave, and it seems like she's
Speaker 2: gotten over like in the US, like extremely quickly, Like
Speaker 2: she was in a tag match on Collision like after
Speaker 2: that was in it like this week and was like
Speaker 2: insanely over. So she's one where I could see maybe
Speaker 2: she is just the one, like because we were thinking,
Speaker 2: like my world might be the one to beat Athena.
Speaker 2: But now I think like there's a chance that like
Speaker 2: Hazuki just beats her and then like they just drop
Speaker 2: the all Elite graphic like right afterwards.
Speaker 1: I I hope, man, I hope get that thing off Athena.
Speaker 1: Let's let's move forward. But yeah, that could happen. I
Speaker 1: guess just for the meme of it, I'll just say
Speaker 1: Atina is gonna win again, and then you know they'll.
Speaker 2: Curvers, Billy Starts five, have a.
Speaker 1: Fifth in a lifetime, finally be there. But yeah, hopefully
Speaker 1: that happens. So and we didn't talk we talked about
Speaker 1: on a little bit, but yeah, the Guns they got
Speaker 1: it signed as well, so there could be some new
Speaker 1: people come in. But yeah, hopefully that happens with Athena
Speaker 1: and then she moves over, because I know there's been
Speaker 1: rumors that she's supposed to move over, but I feel
Speaker 1: like we've heard this before. I just want to be
Speaker 1: locked in. And you know that could be a great
Speaker 1: Willow PA per view challenger as well too, you know,
Speaker 1: like right off of that, they could have some really
Speaker 1: good stuff there. So I guess we'll see, but there
Speaker 1: you go. I think we're all caught up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: tomorrow will just be some for SU Night too, and
Speaker 1: then SA's well update the draft results and then yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess the next time we do show, probably try
Speaker 1: and do maybe one more before. We're definitely gonna do
Speaker 1: one on the twenty ninth after all, and we'll probably
Speaker 1: try and do one more all in and then a
Speaker 1: gmodes somewhere, but we'll figure that out. We'll we'll take
Speaker 1: a look and stuff, so we'll go from there. Anything
Speaker 1: else that's.
Speaker 2: Pubs ummm, I don't think so that'd.
Speaker 1: Said, Well, there you go. We'll be back tomorrow fortnight too,
Speaker 1: and I promise you it will not be b