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Speaker 2: What's going on in Washington? We find out swamp is horrible,
Speaker 2: the government doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Man, make it like a reality TV show.
Speaker 4: Was a bad bos always a pleasure to be anywhere
Speaker 4: from Washington, DC.
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, a town.
Speaker 4: All too clearly built on a swamp and in so
Speaker 4: many ways still a swamp. I have to watch make.
Speaker 3: Boy said, drained the swamp? I said, oh, that's so, you.
Speaker 4: Know the thing?
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: A lot of talk in Washington about what's going on
Speaker 1: in Russia where President Vladimir Putin today formerly uh formally
Speaker 1: excuse me, lowered the threshold for Russia's use of its
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons.
Speaker 4: This doctrine, this nuclear doctrine by Russia was actually announced
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, so it's not unexpected necessarily,
Speaker 4: it just looks awful considering the timing of the Biden
Speaker 4: administration approving long range missiles being used by Ukraine to
Speaker 4: target into Russia. They said that this is this now
Speaker 4: makes it possible for a nuclear response by Russia to
Speaker 4: a conventional strike being long range missiles, for example, formulated
Speaker 4: broadly to avoid some sort of firm commitment to use
Speaker 4: nuclear weapons and to keep the options open. The Russian
Speaker 4: Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has emphasized that the Ukrainian strike
Speaker 4: missile strike in Bryansk marked an escalation and urged the
Speaker 4: United States and other Western allies to study the new
Speaker 4: nuclear doctrine. One of Putin's former spokespeople had come out
Speaker 4: and said, yes, you may see nuclear war by Christmas.
Speaker 1: Trump US Confirming the deportation strategy, Trump Transition spokeswoman Caroline
Speaker 1: Leavitt said in a statement that President Trump will marshal
Speaker 1: every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest
Speaker 1: deportation operation of illegal criminals, drug dealers, and human traffickers
Speaker 1: in American history. The ACLU says they will fight with
Speaker 1: legal action.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is what I don't know.
Speaker 1: I understand that this is causing a lot of concern
Speaker 1: from people who are here illegally. Legal aid centers have
Speaker 1: received hundreds of inquiries from people wondering what they should do.
Speaker 1: But when you look to that statement and it's criminals
Speaker 1: and drug dealers and human traffickers, they're going after the
Speaker 1: people who have broken the laws in this country, not
Speaker 1: just by crossing the border, but by committing crimes. I
Speaker 1: don't understand why there's such a fervor over getting rid
Speaker 1: of people who are here illegally when you have a
Speaker 1: machination to get rid of them, Like if we could
Speaker 1: get rid of all criminals, Like, wouldn't that be a
Speaker 1: great thing? You could just get them out of the country.
Speaker 1: Somebody who goes and kills four people, and if there
Speaker 1: was a way to just get them out of the country,
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be great? And there's a way, there's a
Speaker 1: way for people who are here illegally once they do
Speaker 1: stuff that is terrorizing a community, to get them out
Speaker 1: of the country.
Speaker 4: Well, and then in front of those people even before
Speaker 4: they commit crimes here in the United States, it's the
Speaker 4: people that have come over that were already convicted of
Speaker 4: crimes in the country from sure whence they came that
Speaker 4: would be near the top of this list. I don't understand.
Speaker 4: I understand the logic of, Hey, these are members of
Speaker 4: families that you would be breaking up if you had
Speaker 4: Uncle Bob deported because of the double murder that he
Speaker 4: committed in Fresno.
Speaker 2: Well, you should have thought about that before he killed
Speaker 2: those people.
Speaker 4: Do you want Uncle Bob as part of your family
Speaker 4: if he's a double murderer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not the family that you want to protect.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's obviously comes to a head locally
Speaker 4: because of today's city council decision about sanctuary cities, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But we've seen.
Speaker 4: Tom Holman the incoming borders are who will not be
Speaker 4: shying away from that label. He is a former vice
Speaker 4: director and he has talked about the potential for the
Speaker 4: use of military assets specifically, and everybody seems to think
Speaker 4: that that means that somehow a President Trump, the forty
Speaker 4: seventh soon to be president, would order the one hundred
Speaker 4: and first Airborne to San Antonio, Texas to wipe out
Speaker 4: specific neighborhoods. And that's not at all what he's talking about.
Speaker 4: They're talking about the potential for large military vehicles think
Speaker 4: C five transport plane to move people to places around
Speaker 4: the country, as opposed to paying American Airlines for a
Speaker 4: charter jet or something like that. I mean, that's the
Speaker 4: kind of assets that they are discussing. They're not putting
Speaker 4: army boots on the ground in neighborhoods to go knocking
Speaker 4: on doors to get people out of there.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was not kidding, turns out, and he said
Speaker 1: he'd let Robert F. Kennedy go wild on healthcare transition
Speaker 1: team has accelerated efforts to fill several high profile health jobs.
Speaker 1: This is a short list of controversial Kennedy allies public
Speaker 1: health contrarians to lead the FDA, CDC other key elements
Speaker 1: of the nation's massive health department. You've got Joseph Ladipo, who,
Speaker 1: as Florida's top health official, questioned the COVID vaccine safety
Speaker 1: repeatedly resisted public health recommendations. He is the leading contender
Speaker 1: for a senior role at the Department of Health and
Speaker 1: Human Services. Casey Means a former surgeon turned wellness influencer
Speaker 1: under consideration to service surgeon General.
Speaker 3: Wow, that would be significant.
Speaker 2: I don't know who Casey Means is.
Speaker 3: I would be.
Speaker 4: She's a fascinating she's a fascinating interview.
Speaker 2: She's a former food industry lobbyist.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know her brother I think is a
Speaker 4: former lobbyist. Political reports she is. I think it's her
Speaker 4: brother is. I think they got that wrong. But Casey
Speaker 4: and Kelly Means have made have been making the rounds
Speaker 4: lately in in this space of transforming food supply.
Speaker 1: Her brother, Oh, I'm sorry, You're right. I was not
Speaker 1: reading Kraal because his name is.
Speaker 3: Callie, right, it's a confusing name.
Speaker 1: It was, You're right, Calli is being discussed as Kennedy's
Speaker 1: likely chief of staff. And yes, he was the one
Speaker 1: as a former food industry lobbyists, neither of which have
Speaker 1: any experience in government.
Speaker 3: Which, hey, maybe that's what we right.
Speaker 1: So wait, you said she's an interesting interview, Yes, like
Speaker 1: what's interesting?
Speaker 4: I actually heard her interview. I heard both of them.
Speaker 4: Her she and her brother, doctor Casey Means and Callie
Speaker 4: Means interviewed on Tucker Carlson. I mean, listen, take the
Speaker 4: Tucker part out of it. I think he's a he's
Speaker 4: a whack job in many instances. But it was a
Speaker 4: fascinating conversation about just the basics of how big companies
Speaker 4: and we've said this before. I mean, you mentioned the
Speaker 4: fact that so many of former tobacco companies now own
Speaker 4: food supply food companies, and how they engineer food to
Speaker 4: be as addictive as tobacco and to continue you know,
Speaker 4: to get customers into the pipeline, and then you get
Speaker 4: a grip on them.
Speaker 3: They can't ever get out of that pipe line.
Speaker 4: And drug dealers, it's just it's and it's the simple
Speaker 4: basic things about the way our bodies work and what
Speaker 4: our bodies respond to chemically, physiologically, that we're just sucked
Speaker 4: into it and we're not.
Speaker 3: Aware of it.
Speaker 4: The apple, eat the apple, eat the clean apple, or
Speaker 4: wash the apple after you buy it because you don't
Speaker 4: know what kind of weird stuff.
Speaker 3: Is in it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wash my apples.
Speaker 3: I sometimes do it.
Speaker 2: I'll say it a lot, don't I get close to
Speaker 2: the apple. I also don't fluss everyone.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to walk over to the sink and
Speaker 3: want apple.
Speaker 1: I totally dirty apple. I eat more dirty apples than
Speaker 1: I do clean. Let's be honest.
Speaker 4: There's a doctor that talks about the way that food
Speaker 4: giants food companies have made us sick, how they use
Speaker 4: these ultra processed foods to hook us, catch us, and
Speaker 4: we stuff we don't even think about, stuff like the
Speaker 4: sound of the food when you pull it off the
Speaker 4: grocery store shelf. Really, and how we are just big
Speaker 4: dumb animals and we just stick that stuff in our mouth.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get into that.
Speaker 3: So we'll do that at the bottom the album.
Speaker 1: Numerous Republican lawmakers told Donald Trump and his team that
Speaker 1: they believe his pick for attorney general has a little
Speaker 1: chance of being confirmed. This is according to several Senate
Speaker 1: Republicans and people around Trump. They're privately hoping Trump doesn't
Speaker 1: make them walk the plank.
Speaker 4: Allegedly, he's been calling individual senators lobbying on behalf of
Speaker 4: mac Ay. What does that conversation sound like.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, you know, we need to shake up the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice. He'll get in there and you know,
Speaker 1: and he'll shake it up, and he'll do what we want.
Speaker 1: He'll protect our friends.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 4: Also is the I'm curious also about why the conspiracy
Speaker 4: theory behind why choosing Matt Why do you choose Matt
Speaker 4: Gates if you know he's going to have such an
Speaker 4: uphill climb and now it looks more and more likely
Speaker 4: every day that he would not be confirmed as attorney general.
Speaker 1: They say, Knowing how toxic a character they're dealing with,
Speaker 1: Senate Republicans are worried about getting tarnished by the process.
Speaker 1: They fear that senators up for reelection in twenty six,
Speaker 1: including Tom Tillis, could face a maga primary challenge if
Speaker 1: they oppose Gates's nomination, while possibly kissing their seats goodbye
Speaker 1: in a general election if they back him. Interesting, that's
Speaker 1: the whole walking the plank thing. Uh, It's not just
Speaker 1: the politically vulnerable who are fretting.
Speaker 2: They say.
Speaker 1: There's a fear that Trump is going to waste precious
Speaker 1: political capital trying to push Gates through when he could
Speaker 1: instead be working on advancing more feasible nominations, not to
Speaker 1: mention his governing agenda the.
Speaker 4: Way it's written up in The New York Times today,
Speaker 4: Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, they talk about these private
Speaker 4: conversations that the President elect is supposedly having, and he
Speaker 4: admits that his choice for Attorney General has less than
Speaker 4: even odds of being confirmed by the Senate.
Speaker 3: But he's made no motion.
Speaker 4: Visibly at least of withdrawing the nomination or Gates withdrawing
Speaker 4: his own name from nomination the way Steve Bannon puts it.
Speaker 4: By the way, I can't believe we're still quoting Steve
Speaker 4: Bannon these days, but Donald Trump is a blunt force
Speaker 4: instrument applying blunt force trauma to the system. We know
Speaker 4: that Bannon's close with Trump, but he's not part of
Speaker 4: this transition at all. President Elect Trump's sentencing in the
Speaker 4: criminal hush money trial has been paused. The judge overseeing
Speaker 4: that case is trying to figure out how to move
Speaker 4: forward after he won election election. I'll say that if
Speaker 4: Judge wanmershan Is misses the case, it would be a
Speaker 4: huge win for Trump. But at this point all they're
Speaker 4: doing is no additional details on the docket. The decision
Speaker 4: on Trump's request for a new trial is also expected
Speaker 4: as soon as today. There are a couple of different options.
Speaker 4: Most legal pundits say there's really only two. One is
Speaker 4: you delay sentencing until twenty twenty nine, when Trump is
Speaker 4: out of office, or you just dismiss the case altogether,
Speaker 4: because nobody has an appetite to sit.
Speaker 3: Around for four years waiting for the term to end.
Speaker 1: Speaker Mike Johnson says he's working on a solution to
Speaker 1: address Republican concerns about transgender women using women's restrooms on
Speaker 1: the House side of Capitol Hill. This is as representative Alex.
Speaker 1: Sarah McBride poise to assume office is the first openly
Speaker 1: transgender lawmaker. In January, Johnson said, this is an issue
Speaker 1: that Congress has never had to address before, and we're
Speaker 1: going to do that in a deliberate fashion, and we
Speaker 1: will accommodate the needs of every single person. Nancy Mace
Speaker 1: out of North Carolina, North Carolina, isn't it oh, leader
Speaker 1: of the effort to bar transgender women from women's bathrooms.
Speaker 1: She and in her shy both sides need to put
Speaker 1: down the transgender bathroom thing.
Speaker 4: In her statement, Nancy May said Sarah McBride doesn't get
Speaker 4: a say, I mean, this is a biological man. She
Speaker 4: said that the lawmaker does not belong in women's spaces,
Speaker 4: women's bathrooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, period, full stop. She wrote,
Speaker 4: did Sarah McBride everyday Americans go to work with people
Speaker 4: who have life journeys different than their own and engage
Speaker 4: with them respectfully. I hope members of Congress can muster
Speaker 4: that same kindness. This is going to get down to
Speaker 4: the question. Unfortunately for Sarah McBride, it's and the rest
Speaker 4: of us and the other three hundred and forty million
Speaker 4: people is what do you what do you?
Speaker 3: What do you packing?
Speaker 4: What's what's what cargoes in them? Cargo shorts of yours?
Speaker 4: Because I think for a lot of people, that's the
Speaker 4: delineating factor in which bathroom you use if.
Speaker 2: You have a penis?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how is.
Speaker 2: That anyone's business?
Speaker 4: Well, if you were standing next, I guess you, guys
Speaker 4: don't stand No, if you were in a bathroom and
Speaker 4: Sarah McBride whips out or honker.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. But it's it's not our right to
Speaker 1: know if she has a penis or not.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean that, that's why, that's why this is an
Speaker 4: issue that doesn't seem to have any sort of actual
Speaker 4: conclusion to it, because I don't know if Nancy Mace
Speaker 4: knows whether or not Sarah McBride I I can heat
Speaker 4: or not.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that sentence escaped my mouth as
Speaker 1: easily as it did. How do I know if she
Speaker 1: has a penis or not? I said it with all
Speaker 1: due seriousness, very serious, very serious. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to spend any more time talking about women with penis.
Speaker 2: It's in a Capitol hill.
Speaker 4: We're asking Mike Johnson to come up with an answer
Speaker 4: on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Johnson, Am I right, No, that's not.
Speaker 3: What I meant.
Speaker 1: Oh, you've started the penis talk.
Speaker 2: You said, what's in the cargo pants?
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's because I think that's what people worry about.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I've never encountered a penis or otherwise in a bathroom.
Speaker 1: I've never encountered anybody's genitals in the bathroom. Okay, except
Speaker 1: for that one time in Philadelphia when I was sitting
Speaker 1: down peeing and I looked to my right and there
Speaker 1: were the feet were pointed towards the toilet, which meant
Speaker 1: that that guy's penis. It was one what's the partition
Speaker 1: away from my face?
Speaker 4: What's the difference between that I'm congresswoman and doing it
Speaker 4: in the halls of Congress where you're sitting doing your
Speaker 4: biz right, and Sarah walks up in her high heels,
Speaker 4: drops trou AND's facing the toilet like a real man.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would bother me less if
Speaker 1: if the person was in heels, I think I would
Speaker 1: take some of the sting away. It's one way to
Speaker 1: put it, because this was like a man. There's like
Speaker 1: dude shoes, stranger penis right there.
Speaker 4: Well that's not a straight that would be also a
Speaker 4: stranger's Jenna tailor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she probably doesn't want to use it.
Speaker 3: And you think that guy did.
Speaker 2: All men want to use it?
Speaker 3: Okay, well then how I'm lost? Now I'm lost?
Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3: I can't find the trail back. The forest has closed
Speaker 3: in around me.
Speaker 2: Now I know that got away from us.
Speaker 1: Man, I want to get right into this story. This
Speaker 1: is fascinating. There's a new documentary and it's called Irresistible
Speaker 1: and it's about the tricks of food giants that make
Speaker 1: us addicted to bad foods. And this sentence hit me
Speaker 1: like a ton of bricks.
Speaker 3: Hit me like a title wave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, that kind of worked its way in my brain.
Speaker 2: What a dumb animal I am?
Speaker 3: Yes, you can say that again, What a.
Speaker 2: Dumb animal I am?
Speaker 1: If this is the line we need to bury the
Speaker 1: idea of the obesity crisis as a failure of willpower,
Speaker 1: that people are just making bad choices, that they're lazy,
Speaker 1: that it's their fault.
Speaker 3: It's not, it's it should be.
Speaker 4: That is an eye opening statement right now, it does
Speaker 4: an excuse whose are bad habits, but it at least
Speaker 4: points to why it is so difficult to stop.
Speaker 1: In the documentary, the scientists who were at the dawn
Speaker 1: of this billion dollar industry of super processed foods explain
Speaker 1: the hidden tricks and techniques that have been perfected to
Speaker 1: get inside our minds and our appetites, not just to
Speaker 1: make ultra processed food appealing but addictive for most of us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because remember the point of a food company is
Speaker 4: not to make you healthy.
Speaker 3: The point of a food company is to sell food.
Speaker 2: So they have more and more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they have scientists that perfect these recipes, test
Speaker 4: and perfect them every aspect of every food product to
Speaker 4: drive maximum consumption.
Speaker 3: They go on.
Speaker 1: An experimental psychologist called doctor Howard Moskowitz revolutionize the food
Speaker 1: industry by developing the concept called the bliss point. He
Speaker 1: was contacted by the bosses at Campbell's Soup to ask
Speaker 1: if he could help their pasta sauce sell better. Tried
Speaker 1: forty five different versions of the sauce recipe on consumers,
Speaker 1: asked them to rate the deliciousnessness. He discovered that by
Speaker 1: hitting an optimum amount of sugar, fat, or salt, in
Speaker 1: a dish which is obviously more, but not too much more.
Speaker 1: He could make the people think that the entire recipe
Speaker 1: was better overall.
Speaker 3: He yeah, that's what he came up, that bliss point.
Speaker 4: He did it with doctor Pepper, he did it with tropicana,
Speaker 4: he did it with spam. And they said that this
Speaker 4: has been sort of the the or was the beginning
Speaker 4: of this ultra processed food plan.
Speaker 1: Basically perfect combination between salt and sugar and fat because
Speaker 1: it's hitten all the thing, right, sweet and savory.
Speaker 3: Oh fat.
Speaker 4: Okay, but that's just one of the tricks, and that's
Speaker 4: the one that was probably going to be the easiest
Speaker 4: to come up with. Here's another thing. There's a neuroscientist
Speaker 4: who worked for Unilever. First of all, what a neuroscientist
Speaker 4: working for a giant food company like that? Yes, introducing
Speaker 4: MRI brain MRI brain scanning to dig deeper into your preferences.
Speaker 4: So what he and his team did was they put
Speaker 4: volunteers into brain scanners and then feed him ice cream
Speaker 4: and see what happens to your brain. They said that
Speaker 4: their brains orbitofrontal cortex reward system was glowing like a furnace,
Speaker 4: which is why when you have two spoonfuls of ice
Speaker 4: cream you cannot put that thing back.
Speaker 3: In the freezer. Oh my gosh, how about this one.
Speaker 3: There's another one.
Speaker 4: Soft food short circuits your brain's satiety mechanism, so that
Speaker 4: you eat much more of the soft food than you
Speaker 4: would of crunchy food. Think of it a carrot. You
Speaker 4: eat a carrot, you got to spend some time on it.
Speaker 4: You gotta work it, You gotta break that thing down.
Speaker 2: You eat a piece of cheese.
Speaker 4: With the work that you too to break down the
Speaker 4: carrot tells your brain you should be full by the
Speaker 4: time that hits your belly. But if you do it
Speaker 4: with soft food, it short circuits that. And they even
Speaker 4: point to things like cheesy orange puffs because yes they're crunchy,
Speaker 4: but they so immediately lose that and you can squish
Speaker 4: them around with your tongue.
Speaker 3: Wait, there's more.
Speaker 4: How often you eat is now being dictated by the
Speaker 4: way that they market these foods. Breakfast snack is a
Speaker 4: breakfast shake. Don't sit down, don't chew on it, don't
Speaker 4: do anything like that. It would make your body tell
Speaker 4: you that it's full. Just have a shake to go,
Speaker 4: Just have a little protein bar after your gym workout,
Speaker 4: mid afternoon, snack like a veggie straw, and then in
Speaker 4: the evening others sharing snacks. Maybe you rip out a
Speaker 4: bag of chips for you and the loved ones.
Speaker 1: The veggie straws crack me up because it's like, I
Speaker 1: know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: You're trying to.
Speaker 1: Make me feel like I'm snacking on vegetables by making
Speaker 1: them look like vegetable colors, but I'm really eating cheetos.
Speaker 4: Right, how about this one? Noises that make you eat more?
Speaker 4: The noise made when you pick up a food packet
Speaker 4: has been carefully manufactured to make the food sound irresistible.
Speaker 2: Like a bag of Doritos.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The crinkly noises from the packaging carefully tuned to make
Speaker 4: you think, oh, this must be really fresh.
Speaker 2: It's gonna crunch when I bite into this.
Speaker 4: There are sound engineers that work for food companies.
Speaker 1: It's called sonic branding. For example, when you pull open
Speaker 1: the ring on a can of fizzy soda, you've got
Speaker 1: two noises, the click and the tear, and that is
Speaker 1: sonic branding. How satisfying is that click and tear?
Speaker 4: Well, Kellogg's for example. Kellogg's is one of those companies
Speaker 4: that uses sonic branding most people will remember as children
Speaker 4: lifting a bowl to their ear. I love the sound
Speaker 4: crackle and Rice Christ remember how they made that a thing? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean they name their characters after the sonic branding
Speaker 4: that it takes place when you put puffed corn in milk.
Speaker 1: Right, all of these things right now are triggering the
Speaker 1: parts of my brain that want them.
Speaker 3: I want to eat.
Speaker 1: You just got to keep telling yourself it's just your brain.
Speaker 1: That's that's wire that they've been able to, you know, manipulate,
Speaker 1: screw with the wiring of it.
Speaker 2: You don't really want this. They just want you to
Speaker 2: think you want it.
Speaker 3: So there was another story as well Ai.
Speaker 4: There was a reporter in the Washington Post who let
Speaker 4: Ai make decisions for her for an entire week, everything
Speaker 4: from what to eat, what to work out, what to
Speaker 4: text her husband.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: A hacker Lool has reportedly gained access to testimony investigations
Speaker 1: into former Congressman Matt Gates. He's been accused of sexual
Speaker 1: misconduct and never criminally charged.
Speaker 2: She's denied everything.
Speaker 1: Reports say that someone got into two dozen exhibits, including
Speaker 1: testimony from a woman who claims Gates had sex with
Speaker 1: her when she was seventeen. The file included sealed files
Speaker 1: from the Health Ethics Committee. The Ethics Committee is expected
Speaker 1: to me tomorrow to decide whether or not to release
Speaker 1: its report on Gates.
Speaker 4: Something happened yesterday at the football stadium in Dallas at
Speaker 4: and T Stadium in Arlington. The pieces of metal were
Speaker 4: falling off of the roof before the game.
Speaker 3: Nobody was hurt.
Speaker 4: I guess there were some production people on the field
Speaker 4: at the time, and it was a large metal piece.
Speaker 4: Looked like it was about maybe six feet by two feet.
Speaker 4: The large metal piece fell shortly after the stadium had
Speaker 4: opened the roof, but that they closed it. I don't
Speaker 4: know what's going on with that stadium, but they have
Speaker 4: not played in that stadium in an open roof situation
Speaker 4: for two years now. I don't know if that just
Speaker 4: by chance or if there's something wrong with the stadium
Speaker 4: that they're It.
Speaker 1: Was like the first of the massive stadiums to open.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It is a gorgeous stadium. But yeah, obviously
Speaker 1: some problems there on and off the field above the field.
Speaker 1: All over Dallas there was an article in the New
Speaker 1: York York Times written by Kashmir Hill, and he writes,
Speaker 1: generative artificial intelligence took over my life for one week.
Speaker 1: It told me what to eat, what to wear, what
Speaker 1: to do with my kids. It chose my haircut, what
Speaker 1: color to paint my office.
Speaker 3: And this is my favorite part.
Speaker 4: It told my husband that it was okay to go
Speaker 4: golfing in a lovey dovey text that he immediately knew
Speaker 4: I had not written. So Kashmir writes this thing up
Speaker 4: and says she used two dozen generative AI tools for
Speaker 4: daily tasks and about one hundred decisions over the course
Speaker 4: of the week. Among the helpers were the chatbots with
Speaker 4: every big tech company released after chat GPT, and she
Speaker 4: goes through and lists a bunch of them. Said, I
Speaker 4: told the chatbots what I was doing. I was a
Speaker 4: journalist conducting an experiment that I had a family, but
Speaker 4: not much more of that. AI's first task was to
Speaker 4: plan our meals and then generate a shopping list for
Speaker 4: the week, and within seconds it's done. She describes that
Speaker 4: give and take, which is what should I get? Make
Speaker 4: the list ordered by section, starting with produce. Chat GPT
Speaker 4: throws out a list reads it line by line. She
Speaker 4: then types in did we forget anything? After sending in
Speaker 4: a picture of her grocery cart and chat GPT says,
Speaker 4: based on the image, it looks like you have most
Speaker 4: of the key items from your list, including produced dairy
Speaker 4: and some pantry essentials. However, I can't see everything in
Speaker 4: the cart, so here are a few things to double check,
Speaker 4: and then listed a bunch of stuff to make sure
Speaker 4: that she had it.
Speaker 1: My daughters, she writes, were enchanted by the disembodied voice
Speaker 1: with infinite patience for their questions. There are nine voices
Speaker 1: to choose from. I went with an upbeat mail one.
Speaker 1: They decided it should have a name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the girls, she said's funny because they had scatological
Speaker 4: names because they're four and seven years old. But they
Speaker 4: came up with the name Spark eventually, so they said.
Speaker 4: The only junk food on Spark's grocery list was a
Speaker 4: bar of dark chocolate. The daily plans also involved an
Speaker 4: hour of exercise, stretch breaks during work hours, and then
Speaker 4: cooking elaborate meals three times a day.
Speaker 2: I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: She said that it saved her time, alleviated the burden
Speaker 1: of making choices, but it seemed to have an agenda
Speaker 1: turn me into a basic bee.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's no creativity.
Speaker 3: There's very little creativity. She did say.
Speaker 4: It did plan family games in the evening, including past
Speaker 4: the story in which we and Spark took turns telling
Speaker 4: a tale the chatbot started about a towering tree deep
Speaker 4: in an enchanted forest.
Speaker 3: She said it felt like a week.
Speaker 4: The AI optimized week felt like a wellness retreat.
Speaker 1: I would be careful to expose my kids four and
Speaker 1: seven to this. Yes, that I think would be there
Speaker 1: for a whole week, because their life experience is so small,
Speaker 1: you'd think they'd make a bigger deal out of this.
Speaker 2: You know, if it lasted for a whole that's like
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 4: Right in forty year old as she had the chat
Speaker 4: gpt pick a paint color for her office, she had
Speaker 4: pictures of her wardrobe that she uploaded to style DNA
Speaker 4: and then based a scan of my face, it had
Speaker 4: determined my style an optimal color palette. Most of what
Speaker 4: I owned, including some of my favorite items, were not
Speaker 4: a good match, according to the AI stylist, so they
Speaker 4: picked on a couple of garments that she would bring on.
Speaker 3: Said at J crwe.
Speaker 4: I took mirror selfies as I tried on each of
Speaker 4: the items, and it rejected most of what I selected,
Speaker 4: but it gave a one hundred match to an all
Speaker 4: of nit tank top and high waisted gene trousers. I
Speaker 4: uploaded the AI proved a tire to a chat with
Speaker 4: some of my stylish colleagues and it got roasted. Humans
Speaker 4: told her, if I saw you walking down the street,
Speaker 4: I would think, sure that is a person who got
Speaker 4: the mannequin set.
Speaker 1: The other one chimed in mannequin core. There was one
Speaker 1: part of my life. AI failed a being me. Cloning
Speaker 1: my voice was disturbingly easy to do. I also created
Speaker 1: a video avatar of myself by reading a short script
Speaker 1: onto my lam into my laptop camera. I wanted it
Speaker 1: to post to social media send video messages on my behalf,
Speaker 1: but when it digested one of my articles for a
Speaker 1: TikTok video, the script was wooden. Some of my movements
Speaker 1: were exaggerated in a creepy way. When I used my
Speaker 1: avatar to send a loving AI composed message to my mom,
Speaker 1: she was horrified. She said, you seem so phony. I
Speaker 1: thought you were mad at me. Mothers always know.
Speaker 3: Uh, so it's not where it needs to be.
Speaker 2: That frees me out.
Speaker 1: That whole article like that, you would let it into
Speaker 1: your life for a week in front of your children.
Speaker 1: It's too much journalism for me.
Speaker 3: And by the way, good on mom and good on
Speaker 3: the husband.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for knowing that she was crazy, right, I mean
Speaker 4: not that she was crazy, but that the computer tried
Speaker 4: to be her and painted her as crazy.
Speaker 1: That just wasn't who she was. You can go through
Speaker 1: the motions, but you are what makes you you.
Speaker 4: Thanks Grandma, I mean Grandma. Just sounds like something Grandma
Speaker 4: would say, Dixie. She wouldn't have put it like that,
Speaker 4: she would not have, but.
Speaker 1: She'd stop thinking about you and get out into the
Speaker 1: yard and do some work.
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