WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 Adventist Radio London inspiration for. 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:04.160 The song. 3 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:13.800 Good evening, Good evening, Good evening, and welcome to Talking Point. 4 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.280 I hope people had a really good day to day. 5 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:20.160 It's always good to get to the end of the 6 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:22.600 week and recognize that we're taking a rest from her 7 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:25.760 daily week and having good Sabbath. So whenever you've got 8 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:28.359 up to I hope it's been a blessed day. And 9 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:31.000 thank you once again for joining us on Talking Point. 10 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:36.920 As usual, I'm joined by my trustee co hosts. We're 11 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:41.039 all actually on today, so Zenya and Pedro, how are 12 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:41.520 you both? 13 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.679 I am well, and yeah, it's good to be back. 14 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:52.880 We took a decent break over the summer and we've 15 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:57.600 been all sort of pered in everywhere, and yeah, it's 16 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.439 good to be back in the room. It's good to 17 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:04.200 be rack for another edition, a very important edition of 18 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:05.239 Talking Point. 19 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:06.840 It's good. 20 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:08.599 I'm Petra. How have you been? And then when I 21 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.000 expect to you this week, you're saying you had a 22 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:13.480 really you've had a really busy summer. So how has 23 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:14.159 it been for you? 24 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:18.000 It's been. I'm good, it's been a really good summer. 25 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:22.640 Like I said, busy, yea beside my daughter breaking her foot, 26 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:27.159 I broke my hand, things like that, you know. And yeah, 27 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:28.760 I fell on my I fell out of a house 28 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:34.359 and fell on my hand, broke my pinky. Yeah, yeah, 29 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.040 I know. So you know what else is That's how 30 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:38.840 it calls me. I'm the most clumsiest man, you know. 31 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.760 So I just proved that point. Could you guys have 32 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:44.560 a question real quick, I'm trying. I not this thing. 33 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:46.959 I'm really quick with this question. Why is it that 34 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.840 you guys put lips on the bottom of the door frames? 35 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:53.000 I mean not being you know what I mean? 36 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:53.920 Does anybody know it? 37 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:56.040 And like they put lips like you know, like in 38 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:58.640 a state, they just have a door frame and you walk, 39 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.400 you step out the door. But here they put like 40 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:05.400 this little tuiny like like level shovel or something. So 41 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.719 I was walking, I turned my head and my foot 42 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:10.800 hit the lip as I was going out the door. 43 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:12.919 And that's what made me go forward because I was thinking, 44 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:16.520 I'm just stepping out into the outside of the house, okay, 45 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:18.719 And that's why I felt because I hit that lip 46 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.400 in my foot and I just kind of, you know, 47 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.319 big old man just flying out the house. It looked 48 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.319 really funny, you know, it was really embarrassing. Yeah, all 49 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:25.840 that good stuff. 50 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.639 Yeah, yeah, I mean the whole door frame thing. I 51 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:31.960 have no idea. I mean, I guess that's just how 52 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:32.719 the doors are. 53 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:36.000 I mean, there might be a scientific reason, and if 54 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:37.800 anyone's listening and knows. 55 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:41.199 It, I think it's just me. I just think it's 56 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:43.639 a British thing. But anyway, I. 57 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:45.719 Would like to think there was some reasoning behind it, 58 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.280 and it's just not someone decided, you know what, let's 59 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:49.479 just put the trip hazard here. 60 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:52.800 Somebody like making just trip over it and you know, 61 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:54.039 break their finger. You know. 62 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:55.840 Wow, I'm. 63 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.280 Easy and yeah, high paved the heels. Yeah he was quickly. 64 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:04.680 It feels okay, I'm still working as to stop me 65 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.199 from working, be honest with you. Good because I used 66 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.439 my other fingers to write and cut, so I just 67 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:10.719 tried to keep immobilized. 68 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:11.560 And yeah. 69 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.960 Yeah, so blessing that it wasn't. 70 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:17.919 Oh yeah, it could have been. I felt I actually 71 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:18.560 landed on my hand. 72 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:20.800 I felt like my rest went towards my fingers, so 73 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:22.759 I felt like I actually booke all my fingers when 74 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:23.120 I did it. 75 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:28.520 At first. Luckily it was just my pinky. Yeah, it 76 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:29.479 was definitely a blessing. 77 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.360 Glad that you're here and it was nothing worse. 78 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:37.759 How about you? How was your How was your break? 79 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:38.759 How was your break? 80 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:41.560 It It's been Yeah, it's been good. I mean it's 81 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.520 been busy as always because I think every weekend there's 82 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:49.520 been something happening. Over the bank holiday weekend that we had. 83 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.120 I thought I was actually going to Cheltenham. I ended 84 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:55.039 up in Whales with a group of friends, which was 85 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:57.439 really nice. We'd rented at cottage and it was just 86 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:01.479 really nice to be out of the city and just 87 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:03.719 kind of in nature really and we took a program 88 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:05.960 over to Cheltenham, which is actually really good as well, 89 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.120 really lovely church members there and just been able to 90 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.719 just take some time out and it's definitely good for me. 91 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:14.120 I was always not sure if I was going to 92 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:17.480 be able to make it, but yeah, it was really nice, 93 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:19.279 and yeah, just kind of it's been busy, you know, 94 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:23.199 lots of things happening. But here we are back again, 95 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.839 waring to go with our I don't know what are 96 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:31.480 we on season whatever it would be. Yeah, we've been 97 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:33.759 going what three years now, three years. 98 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:37.319 Or oh I came I came in at after the 99 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:37.839 first year. 100 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.439 Yeah, so yeah, before it's been three years because I 101 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:45.279 start my anniversary is my work day anniversary of a 102 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.639 day when I started my job, is that you guys 103 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:49.360 called me and asked me to join I was actually 104 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.240 going for That's what I always remember. 105 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:52.240 I was going for orientation. 106 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:55.560 Yeah, I was down and down, way down in Exeter 107 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.319 or form or whatever I was at and that's when 108 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.399 you call me late that evening, and that's what I 109 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:00.959 always remember. 110 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.759 So it's definitely been three for us. Okay, cool, if 111 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:05.199 you was a year before that, it has been four. 112 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:10.639 Oh oh yeah. So we've got some you know, we've 113 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:15.639 got some great shows planned in the works already, so yeah, 114 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.480 looking forward to doing those. However, we are here today 115 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:22.360 and we're going to be talking about another other kind 116 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.279 of I suppose often on Talking Point we do talk 117 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:29.480 a lot about different health topics, different mental health topics 118 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:31.040 and what have you. So we're going to be covering 119 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:35.480 one today, which actually it's a theme of this month 120 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:39.199 of September, but also today, the twenty first of September 121 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:42.680 being World Alzheimer's Day, so we're going to be talking 122 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:45.319 about that. We've got some great guests on today, who's 123 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:47.720 going to be sharing about the work that they do 124 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.279 and the impact they are having within this world of dementia. 125 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:53.519 So before we get started into that, let's have a 126 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:55.199 word of prayer, So you would you mind praying for 127 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:56.279 us to start. 128 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:00.600 A definitely, Father, thank you for bringing us together for 129 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:06.040 another conversation on this critical and timely topic. We're talking 130 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:09.120 Alzheimer's and dementia law. And I thank you for the 131 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:13.199 experts I have accepted the invitation to come on. I 132 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.639 pray that you give them wisdom and clarity your thoughts 133 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.160 so that when we are through with this discussion, whenever 134 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:22.759 we have shared will make a difference for those listening 135 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:26.240 best the technology and the lesser slow I pray. 136 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.519 In Jesus name, Amen, Amen. 137 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:30.519 Thanks. 138 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:36.680 Okay, So, as I said, it's World Alzheimer's month September, 139 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.560 and today it's World Alzheimer's Day, and so we're going 140 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:41.920 to be talking a little bit about that. And I 141 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:43.920 know we have done a show about this before, and 142 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:45.920 as you know, as many of these topics we could 143 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:49.040 pub there's a lot to talk about around this, but 144 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:52.399 I guess this time we kind of be really talking 145 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:56.000 about a little bit about what it is Alzheimer's is 146 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.240 what dementias are, but also about people who are making 147 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:03.079 a difference with this within this area. It's a topic 148 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:06.639 that is dear to my heart because over the last 149 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.800 I suppose what twenty since twenty nineteen, I've been on 150 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.839 that journey of being a caregiver supporting my mum who 151 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:17.680 was living with Alzheimer's, and it definitely has been a journey, 152 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:24.000 definitely been one of learning emotional ups and downs, but 153 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:29.560 also quite I say a learning process, but learning about 154 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:33.000 the disease itself, but learning the opportunity to learn from 155 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.360 other people as well. You know, I've kind of had 156 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.360 to do lots of research myself, not only in terms 157 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.519 of understanding what it's all about, but also how I 158 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.399 can be effective in the support and learning a lot 159 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.279 about myself. You get to an age and you think 160 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.720 you kind of have an idea, A lot of that's 161 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.480 gone out the window, so you know, and you know, 162 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:55.920 life is a journey. There's always something new to learn, 163 00:07:56.639 --> 00:08:01.199 and you know, every day I'm learning something new about which, sadly, 164 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:04.199 just so you know, a really heartbreaking and sad disease, 165 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.439 but it's one that's incredibly prevalence. So we're gonna be 166 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.519 talking about that, and I guess on today are people 167 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:14.279 who are, like I said, have been making a difference 168 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:15.759 within this world. I'm going to call it make a 169 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.879 difference within this world. So we've got two with us 170 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:23.079 today and I'm going to just introduce, get them to 171 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:28.240 introduce themselves very briefly, and then we'll start talking. And 172 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.759 then I didn't I wasn't gonna be playing an interview 173 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:34.759 that I did with my mum. Attends a day center 174 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:37.360 local to where we live, which has been I would 175 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:40.039 say a complete god send and a blessing respect to 176 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.159 the manager today about the work that they do and 177 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:45.320 how they support those people who are living with dementia. 178 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:51.200 So that'll be part of our program today. So with 179 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.919 a further ado, we will speak to our guests who 180 00:08:54.000 --> 00:09:00.639 are joining us today. Now our first one I met. 181 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.000 I guess it's coming maybe a couple of months ago 182 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.720 because one of the key things I found myself being 183 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:10.840 a career is trying to tap into the support networks 184 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.720 that are out there. And again I've been quite fortunate 185 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:15.799 to be able to find groups that I can join 186 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:19.799 that's at my workplace or in the local area. But 187 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:24.279 then I was kind of sent some information about another 188 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.399 group that was being set up, and this is how 189 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:30.799 I met my first guest, Michelle. So, Hi, Michelle, welcome 190 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:31.720 to our show today. 191 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:35.240 Hi, thank you for having me on. It's a pleasure. 192 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:37.840 So I just introduced us and tell us a little 193 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:39.720 bit about you what you do. 194 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:44.399 Okay. So, my name is Michelle Guthrie. I'm a qualified counselor. 195 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.759 I'm a child of the Windrush generation. My parents come 196 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:50.960 from Jamaica. 197 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:53.879 And prior to. 198 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.480 Taking the interest that I now have in dementia and counseling, 199 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:02.279 I was a teacher for many is in further education 200 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.600 and I also run workshops and do presentations. 201 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.799 Okay, cool, And like I said, you recently set up 202 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:12.840 a support group, so we wish we will hear a 203 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:14.679 little bit more about that and the work that you do. 204 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:16.840 So again, thank you so much for joining us today, 205 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:21.240 looking forward to our conversation and also joining us. And 206 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:25.759 again this is sometimes, you know, the networking and connections happen. 207 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:31.360 Our next guest is Doctrinmonia Gaspas, So again, thank you 208 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.840 for joining us this evening. So tell us a little 209 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.879 bit about yourself and what you do and how you yeah, 210 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:39.679 and how we've kind of connected here today. 211 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:44.000 Good evening everyone. Thank you so much, Angela, it's a 212 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:47.279 real honor to be here. Thank you, Zenia, thank you Pedro. 213 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:54.240 My journey with dementia wasn't always very clear cut. I'm 214 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.919 of Nigerian heritage, so we've got the African and we've 215 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:03.080 got the Caribbean well centered. And I used to spend 216 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.879 a lot of time with my grandmother and now I 217 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:10.440 know she had dementia, but then all I knew was 218 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.799 that it was old age. And so when I moved 219 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:17.480 to the UK, I wanted to work with old people 220 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:21.080 because of the relationship with my grandmother, and I met 221 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.960 lots of old people. They were just like my grandma, 222 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:27.399 and I got to find out that it wasn't old age, 223 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:31.639 it was an illness, dementia, and that's when I started 224 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:36.120 really getting involved in it. I'm a general practitioner by 225 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:41.519 profession my day job, but every minute I have outside 226 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:47.960 that I'm spent advocating and trying to educate and enlighten 227 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:55.480 people on dementia, primarily in the Afro Caribbean community, but 228 00:11:55.879 --> 00:12:00.840 everywhere else as well. I've just completed a degree with 229 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:06.840 the University of London, Queen Mary and it's global public health, 230 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:13.000 but we have to do a basis on something close 231 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:17.440 to our hearts. And I looked at dementia, which happens 232 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:22.600 to be the twenty first century public health crisis at 233 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.039 the moment globally. So it's not just in the UK, 234 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:30.080 it's not just in the Black African community, it's everywhere. 235 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:33.840 And thank you so much for highlighting it. And I'm 236 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:35.240 really honored to be here. 237 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.440 Oh, thank you, thank you so much for joining us. 238 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.440 And yeah, it's going to be great to kind of 239 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.519 get the different sides to as you said, is a 240 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.039 kind of global crisis. So with that in mind, actually, Ammonia, 241 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:49.360 could you just kind of give us a bit of 242 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:54.360 a background about dimension Alzheimer's for any of our listeners 243 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.600 who may not necessarily be familiar. I think many of 244 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:59.679 us know the words and have heard of the terms, 245 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:02.480 but I think there's probably and I guess name to 246 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:05.279 kind of a bit of misconceptions at times as well. 247 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:09.360 And I know dementsia is becoming much more of a 248 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.799 topic that's talked about. We're hearing about, you know, well 249 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:16.320 known celebrities and sort of public people in the public 250 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.480 eye who have you know, disclosed that they have been had, 251 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.039 they've had a diagnosis. But for any of our listeners 252 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:25.679 who don't know what this is about, yeah, do give 253 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:27.399 us a bit of a background. And also Michelle, if 254 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:28.960 you've got any bits to add in, please do it 255 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:31.080 as well. 256 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:37.600 Definitely, dementia is an umbrella term, so it's like saying 257 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:40.720 you have a fever. It could be an earinfection, it 258 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.720 could be a throat infection, it could be a urine infection, 259 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:48.000 it could be meningitis anything, and that's what dementia is. 260 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:53.559 There's more than two hundred types subtypes of dementia, but 261 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.559 we hear about the commonest one, which is Alzheimer's and 262 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:03.360 about sixty to eighty percent of the population globally have Alzheimer's. 263 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.679 But in the black community, the more prevalent type of 264 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:12.480 dementia is vascular dementia, and they are two completely separate 265 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:18.320 different kinds. So we use dementia and Alzheimer's interchangeably. But 266 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:23.240 it's important to actually know what the diagnosis that one 267 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:28.120 has or our loved ones have, and in my case, 268 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:32.519 my family history was one of vascular dementia, which is 269 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:39.320 very closely related to blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease that 270 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:45.320 kind of thing as different from Alzheimer's dementia, where there's 271 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.279 lots of proteins that are fighting for space in the 272 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.480 brain type of thing. So in a nutshell, that's dementia. 273 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:58.919 It's a medical condition, it's an illness. Children can get dementia, 274 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:03.399 Adults can get dementia, old age can get dementia. It 275 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:06.759 can come from disease, it can come from trauma. So 276 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:10.879 people who have head injury, either a major impact head 277 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:16.000 injury or repeated bits of head injury, rugby players, that 278 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.120 kind of thing, they can all get dementia. So it's 279 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:24.600 a very broad umbrella term for lots of different conditions. 280 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:26.000 That's really interesting. 281 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:28.440 I've never you know, just saying that again, I'm going 282 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.279 to be learning quite a lot today, I know. I mean, 283 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.200 I'm kind of aware of, you know, young onset dementias, 284 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.240 But the idea of that children could get that, I 285 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:38.159 had no idea that was possibly the case. 286 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.600 I have a question because you said children and just 287 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:45.759 real quick. So once you get it, there is no 288 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:49.200 you have it for rest of your life. Does that 289 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:50.679 make like? Because you said child can get it, So 290 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.039 if a child gets it, then they have to learn 291 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.399 how to manage it. I mean where they still last 292 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.080 a long will it affect them going forward in their 293 00:15:58.120 --> 00:15:59.960 life or because you know, you have a lot of time. 294 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.559 Some people you know here that they pass from Alzheimer's 295 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:04.720 or they passed from them, you know, they passed from it. 296 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:09.519 So will it affect the child long term that they 297 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:09.879 get it? 298 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:16.879 Sadly, children get more of a metabolic kind of dementia, 299 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:21.639 so it's lots of different kind of metabolic conditions, congenital 300 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:26.799 conditions that they're born with, and unfortunately they don't survive 301 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:31.919 to adulthood. In Okay, I thought. 302 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:33.159 That was the case, but I just thought I would 303 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.759 ask because I don't want to assume like because I mean, 304 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:38.120 I don't mean the lad but I mean, it's just 305 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:40.480 like because we said that, Like Angela, I said, that's 306 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.480 shocking that you said children can get it, because we 307 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.600 just associate with elderly. We associate with older people. We 308 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:49.799 don't associated with everybody, you know, like anybody can get it. 309 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:51.399 We don't associate it with that at all. 310 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:56.080 And that's why it's so important to keep talking about it, 311 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.399 to raise awareness about it because in children, they they 312 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:03.919 learn all their skills that you expect them to know 313 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:06.880 how to feed themselves, how to dress themselves, how to 314 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.839 use the bathroom themselves, and then when it starts, they 315 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:16.240 start losing all those skills. A lot of times diagnosis 316 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:20.680 isn't very clear because nobody ever expects a young person 317 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:24.559 to get it, and it's like an old, eighty year 318 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:29.720 old kind of thing. So it's a very devastating, cruel disease. 319 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:35.039 So I think i'd like to add a little bit 320 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:40.920 onto what Ammonia said, and I should say that how 321 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:45.599 it's impacted me is because my mom's been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. 322 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.640 We kind of suspected a few years ago, but she 323 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:53.240 was tested last year and it confirmed that confirmed that 324 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:58.279 she has Alzheimer's. So of course, with that diagnosis, I 325 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:01.000 started to do my own reason search as you do, 326 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:05.240 and looked into some statistics which I thought was quite 327 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:09.359 alarming actually, so I'd probably like to share a few 328 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:12.000 numbers with you, and you know, you can see what 329 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.720 you think. So when I was doing my research, approximately 330 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:20.160 it says approximately nine hundred thousand people in the UK 331 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:24.519 is living with dementia and by about twenty forty that 332 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:28.640 will increase to one point four million, So that's the 333 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:33.480 significant amount of people, you know, living with dementia, one 334 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.200 in eleven people would be over the age of sixty five, 335 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:42.880 and one in six is over eighty years old. And 336 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:47.559 I've also researched and found out that dementia affects one 337 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:52.680 in twenty people under sixty five, So I think that's 338 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:57.160 where the young onset dementia would come in possibly. And 339 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:01.759 it's more common in women than it is in men, 340 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:05.240 and it's the leading cause of death in the UK 341 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:09.599 for women. So it is a big thing. It really 342 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:12.880 is a big thing that needs to be taken quite seriously. 343 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.319 And I think, like Ammonia said, we just need to 344 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:17.720 keep talking about it now. 345 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.200 Yeah, yeah, I have a question another question. 346 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:25.279 I'm sorry, So that on that thought process you said 347 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:29.279 affects women. Is it just something that just that just 348 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.480 happens or is it like because you said the the 349 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:37.839 different affects the brain or the vascular whereas you know diabetes, 350 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:42.119 you know, things of that nature. Is it not eating healthy? 351 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:44.119 Is it not taking care of your body? 352 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:45.319 Is it? 353 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:47.559 Is it you know because you said like like women 354 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:50.799 will get it when they get older or you still 355 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:54.039 get it ONSTEDT is it like have they been able 356 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:57.680 to kind of pinpoint why you develop Alzheimers or is 357 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:01.920 it just something that just happens it just genetically, or 358 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.680 do you understand I mean maybe all over the map 359 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:06.559 here a little bit. I'm sorry, I'm just trying to 360 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:07.880 get a better understanding. 361 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:15.039 No, no, you're not pedro. I think that's an excellent question. 362 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.440 But the thing is that with many of us, we 363 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:23.519 live like we don't think about long term consequences. Our 364 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:28.440 lives in all sorts of ways, sometimes less healthy than 365 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:33.440 we should. We smoke, we drink too much, we take 366 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.680 on too much stress, we don't sleep enough. We all 367 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.200 the things that we shouldn't necessarily be doing to that 368 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:44.640 degree we do. And then we get older and we 369 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.039 wonder why, you know, things aren't we don't have a 370 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:50.680 healthy old age. You know, we all want to live 371 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:54.839 till an old age. But it's more about living healthily 372 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:59.440 to an al Alzheimer's is. This is why it's so 373 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:04.799 important to get a diagnosis, because Alzheimer's is more prevalent 374 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:08.000 in females, and yes it's the number one cause of death, 375 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:13.599 although statistics are absolutely correct. However, vascular dementia has equal 376 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:20.200 male and female prevalence. A lot of people are like, well, 377 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:23.480 I'm not going to get it, you know. But Roslyn Carter, 378 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:28.920 the wife of the former American presidents, made a very 379 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:32.000 very profound quote, and she said, there's four types of 380 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:35.799 people in the world. Those that are careers, those that 381 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:40.279 will be careers, those that will need care, and the 382 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:44.759 fourth group is those that eventually will become careers. So 383 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:49.079 by twenty fifty, to add to Michelle's statistics, one in 384 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.240 two of us will fall into those one of those 385 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:58.359 four categories. See that dementia ourselves, which is accumulation of 386 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:04.200 lots of different life lifestyle factors, genetic factors. I must 387 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:08.279 say that we might have the gene, or a person 388 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:11.799 might have the gene, but it's our environment that pulls 389 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:16.240 the trigger. So not everybody that has the gene, which 390 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:19.400 is a Poe four for dementia, will go on to 391 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.720 develop dementia. And some people who don't have the gene, 392 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:29.519 if they've lived their lives in a very challenging, difficult 393 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:33.119 way for their brains, will go on to develop dementia 394 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:35.920 even if they haven't got the gene. So it's a 395 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.799 very very complex, very complicated picture, and you just need 396 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:43.559 to keep talking because right now we have no cure 397 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:44.160 for it. 398 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:49.759 Right, And you mentioned about diagnosis, I mean, is that 399 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:51.319 an easy you know, it's it easy for people to 400 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:54.359 get a diagnosis because obviously you know what happened. I 401 00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:57.720