1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,839 your support. So Roy Cooper has set a record. My 10 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:34,640 good friend Ray, he's running for US Senate now. He's 11 00:00:34,679 --> 00:00:39,359 the former governor of North Carolina, and he raised three 12 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:43,759 point four million dollars in the first twenty four hours 13 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:46,600 of his Senate campaign. That is a record breaking sum 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,799 for the North Carolina former North Carolina governor in one 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,840 of the most competitive upcoming Senate races. This report by 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Elena Schneider at Politico says the fundraise singh Whole shared 17 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:05,400 first with Politico includes more than two point six million 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:11,760 raised directly to Cooper's campaign account two point six million 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,359 to his campaign account. Ninety five percent of those donations 20 00:01:16,879 --> 00:01:20,079 were one hundred dollars or less, they said. According to 21 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:24,519 his team, the former governor raised another nine hundred thousand 22 00:01:24,519 --> 00:01:29,000 dollars which went into a joint fundraising committee. Was a 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,159 couple of them joint fundraising committees or jfc's, and that's 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:40,879 controlled by the party, which allows for bigger contributions. Now, 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,239 what they don't tell us in this political piece is 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:50,000 from where did the donations come? Were they predominantly out 27 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:55,959 of state or in state? North Carolina represents Democrats' best 28 00:01:55,959 --> 00:01:59,280 offensive opportunity for the Senate, a battleground state that the 29 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:02,079 former governor is won twice with Trump on the ticket. 30 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:07,439 After yeah, after growing a national fundraising network during his 31 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:12,919 stint as Democratic Governor's Association Chair, Michael Watley, who was 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,039 the RNC, took over last year. He built his own 33 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:19,840 national donor relationships, raising expectations that this race will be 34 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:22,439 one of the most expensive ones in twenty twenty six, 35 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,840 and his first day total cracks a Senate Democratic candidate 36 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:36,439 record which was set by Amy McGrath, a fundraising juggernaut 37 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:43,240 who lost in the general election to Mitch McConnell. She 38 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,159 raised two and a half million dollars in her first 39 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:48,960 twenty four hours as a candidate. Cooper raised three point 40 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:56,919 four So maybe he'll have the same results as she did. 41 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,520 I don't know. It's not really a fair comparison there, obviously, 42 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:08,280 because you've got Mitch McConnell, you know, the incumbent known 43 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,400 for decades in Kentucky. You know power base that's there, 44 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,439 and uh, Michael Wattley is not Mitch McConnell, Thank goodness, 45 00:03:19,439 --> 00:03:22,400 but he's not. He's not Mitch McConnell. Soh So that 46 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:27,439 was the first Yeah, that was the first to day 47 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:33,360 of fundraising. Wattley has not yet announced his candidacy, but 48 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:39,400 it is expected that he will. There's also this development, 49 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:42,240 this fight in Texas. I have to admit, I do 50 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:50,080 not know why a state is allowed to redistrict mid 51 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:55,639 year or mid decade, I should say, but Texas is redistricting, 52 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,840 and they just released their maps, which of course has 53 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:05,719 prompted all of the screams of gerrymanderin right, because the 54 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:11,240 new map that they unveiled today is a thirty to 55 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:16,279 eight Republican to Democrat map. Okay, so they have thirty 56 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:19,920 eight seats in Texas, and thirty of the thirty eight 57 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:26,639 are considered to be lean Republican or safe Republican seats. 58 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,920 Right now, the map is twenty five Republican thirteen Democrat, 59 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,959 so this would be a five seat swing for Republicans 60 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:43,759 if this map gets approved. Donald Trump has publicly said, yes, 61 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,319 redistrict this. Florida just did a redistricting. I don't know 62 00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:51,920 if there were lawsuits or something that prompted this or not. 63 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,360 I'm not sure, because I thought you had to do 64 00:04:56,399 --> 00:05:01,600 the redistricting after the census, and it's a once every 65 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:03,519 ten year cycle. I mean, that's the way it's been 66 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:08,000 in North Carolina except when Democrats have repeatedly sued and 67 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,079 then Democrat lawyers with the wardrobe change on a bench 68 00:05:11,399 --> 00:05:14,680 said you have to redraw different districts and maps and stuff. 69 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,959 So that's why North Carolina would keep redrawing its maps 70 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,959 was it was always due to litigation. I'm not aware 71 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,639 of any any example in North Carolina where they just 72 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,800 started a redistricting process halfway through the decade, right because 73 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,600 you got to we got to wait till twenty thirty 74 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,120 for the next census, and then you would do another 75 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,079 redistricting based on that because the districts are drawn so 76 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:45,120 they are all equal in population. So obviously this has 77 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,319 prompted you know, great concern among Democrats that the gerrymandering 78 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:53,600 in Texas is, you know, a threat to the democracy 79 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,160 and that this is going to lead to the complete 80 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:01,639 downfall of the society and all. And what's always interesting 81 00:06:01,639 --> 00:06:03,800 in these debates is that they never talk about the 82 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,920 states they control. In fact, they're saying, well, if Texas 83 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:10,920 does this and they draw five extra seats for Republicans 84 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:14,160 for the midterms, then we're going to jerry mander. Two. 85 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:16,480 You guys are jerry mannering with them, We're going to 86 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,160 jerry manner. It's like, yeah, but you guys already jerrymander. 87 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:27,959 Have you seen Maryland, California, Nevada, Illinois. I mean, like 88 00:06:28,199 --> 00:06:31,399 the states that you guys control, you have jerry mandered 89 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:35,000 the bejeebis out of them. So, like, I don't know 90 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,959 how you're going to be able to jerry mander harder. 91 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,800 You've already gone pretty hard on that, So I'm not 92 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,360 sure how you can make the maps. I mean, I 93 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,439 guess you could just eliminate all Republicans from the legislature 94 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:54,199 from Congress. I guess. Jd Vance tweeted out earlier today, 95 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,560 the jerry mander in California is outrageous. Of their fifty 96 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:04,240 two congressional district nine of them are Republican, nine out 97 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,360 of fifty two in California. And I know we like 98 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:11,240 to poke fun at California. That's you know, they're all 99 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:16,639 crazy lefties out there, But there are actual Republicans in California. 100 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,319 I know, I was as surprised as you so seven 101 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:27,439 but seventeen percent of the congressional seats are Republican held, 102 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:32,079 which means eighty three percent are Democrat held. Do you 103 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:37,720 know what the breakdown is of voter registrations in that state? 104 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,319 Or better or as Jade Vance points out, the what 105 00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:47,160 they what Republican candidates usually pull is about forty percent. 106 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:50,399 So this is the argument. This is why I don't 107 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:54,560 believe Democrats on any of this gerrymandering redistricting argument. Didn't 108 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,399 believe their court cases, didn't believe the legal challenges, don't 109 00:07:57,399 --> 00:07:59,439 believe their rulings. I don't believe any of them on 110 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:03,759 any of this anymore. Because even in California, which they 111 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:06,079 claim is like, oh, this is the way it should 112 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,040 be done, it's an independent redistricting commission. And I've covered 113 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,720 this over the years, big expose. I think it was 114 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,040 done by pro publica years ago that they rigged it, 115 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:18,839 and they had all the receipts, they did all. It's 116 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,560 like a massive expose on how they created these fake organizations, 117 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,000 these fake speakers in order to create areas of interest, 118 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:34,679 which then moved areas into certain precincts and precincts into districts. 119 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:40,039 And that's how they ended up with their massive over 120 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,720 representation of Democrats because forty percent of the vote goes 121 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:46,360 to Republicans, but they only can hold seventeen percent of 122 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:53,840 the seats. This is also the case in Nevada where 123 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:57,720 they actually won the popular vote. Republicans won the popular 124 00:08:57,799 --> 00:09:01,679 vote in Nevada and they hold one out of the 125 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:07,480 four congressional seats. Right, So when they tell me they 126 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:10,559 want fair maps, I look at the maps they've drawn 127 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,879 and I assume that's what they're talking about. And that's 128 00:09:12,879 --> 00:09:15,039 why I always say when a Democrat says they want 129 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,440 fair maps, it means maps that they win. That's what 130 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,159 they mean by it. And so Republicans are fighting back. 131 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:24,480 And I warned you you're not going to like a 132 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,440 Democrats when the Republicans do to you what you've been 133 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,600 doing to them. This is what that looks like this 134 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,759 is the this is the reaping phase, all right. 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Your subscription then not 154 00:10:32,039 --> 00:10:35,039 only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News 155 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,480 as they make the media landscape more transparent talking about redistricting, 156 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,399 and it's actually super important. I think a lot more 157 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,000 people are now aware of this process and how important 158 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:52,399 it is. And it is also tied to Yes the census. 159 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,639 Steve and Charlotte wonders are the census takers going to 160 00:10:56,759 --> 00:11:04,240 purposely goof up the census again? So this is very 161 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,799 important context to what we're seeing happen in Texas. Guy Benson, 162 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,919 writing at town hall dot com, he says Democrats are 163 00:11:12,919 --> 00:11:15,519 growing angry and anxious about potential plans in the red 164 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,320 states of Texas and Ohio to engage in mid decade 165 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:24,600 redistricting in order to pad Republicans numbers in Congress. Some 166 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:28,519 experts say that adjustments in those two states alone could 167 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:33,120 add six to eight House seats into the GOP column. 168 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:37,000 There are risks in taking such action, of course, including 169 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:46,840 the mistake they call it dummymandering, where you mistakenly dilute 170 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,799 the advantages in too many districts and you essentially create 171 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:58,440 flip districts flippable seats. Right, people who are running for 172 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,240 reelection would prefer to run in a district that is 173 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,399 a plus ten for their party, Right, like if I'm 174 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,679 a Republican, I'm running in District one. I would want 175 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,679 that to be a R plus one or plus ten. 176 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:15,360 I want as big of a margin as possible, so 177 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,320 it's a safe seat for myself. When you start getting 178 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,320 down into like plus two plus three territory, those are 179 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:25,919 flippable seats, especially if you get like a blue wave election. 180 00:12:27,799 --> 00:12:32,440 So there's the downside. Democratic leaders have indicated a willingness 181 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,679 to go tit for tat with Republicans. Most of the 182 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:38,960 largest blue states do not have a partisan redistricting process 183 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,840 like the one in Texas, though apparently the governor can 184 00:12:42,879 --> 00:12:46,080 simply call in the legislature to redraw the maps. According 185 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,600 to Benson, so the governor always has that ability, which 186 00:12:49,639 --> 00:12:54,039 is pretty amazing. So that's the reason why Texas is 187 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,480 doing it now. Benson goes on to say, there is 188 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:01,879 a redistricting controversy that is rather busy, rarely talked about. 189 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,399 I understand why Democrats would prefer not to discuss it, 190 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,399 but I don't know why Republicans have not raised the 191 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,480 issue more often and more loudly. This comes from NPR. 192 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,320 Of all places in the twenty twenty census, all states 193 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:22,000 were not counted equally well for population numbers used to 194 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:25,639 allocate the members of Congress and federal funding over the 195 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,720 next decade. This is according to a US Census Bureau report. 196 00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:33,720 A follow up survey that the Bureau conducted to measure 197 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:41,120 the national tallies accuracy found significant net undercount rates in 198 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:51,679 six states Arkansas, Florida, Illinois, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Texas. So 199 00:13:51,759 --> 00:13:56,320 Florida just did their redistricting and now Texas is doing it, 200 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:04,120 so they got undercounted. There were states that got overcounted. 201 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:12,480 Eight states that were overcounted Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, 202 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:18,639 Rhode Island, and Utah. These revelations come after the population 203 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,000 totals from a census beset by the coronavirus pandemic and 204 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,720 years of interference from former President Donald Trump's administration have 205 00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:28,159 already been used to divvy up seats in the House 206 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:30,759 of Representatives as well as votes in the Electoral College 207 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:38,080 for the next decade. So ten of the twelve over 208 00:14:38,279 --> 00:14:41,799 and under counts the sloppy counts. Ten of the twelve 209 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:48,600 states benefited Democrats, five of the six undercounted states are 210 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:54,200 red and five of the six overcounted states are blue. 211 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,679 I'm sure it's just a coincidence. The twenty twenty census 212 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,200 led to significant changes in congressional seats apportioned to the states. 213 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,320 Texas gained two seats. People were surprised, they thought they 214 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,639 would have gotten more. We got one, Florida got one, Montana, Colorado, 215 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:18,720 and Oregon they all got one. Losers were New York, Pennsylvania, 216 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:28,559 West Virginia, Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, and California. With the possible 217 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:31,440 exception of Illinois not losing a seat. The likely effects 218 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:36,399 of an accurate count would have overwhelmingly aided red states. 219 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:43,159 The error resulted in six hundred thousand over counted residents. 220 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:47,120 And remember these are just residents. These are not citizens, 221 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:51,840 These are residents. The error resulted in over six hundred 222 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:55,360 thousand overcounted residents in New York and a similar amount 223 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,679 undercounted in Texas. And by the way, six hundred thousand 224 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,159 is an important number because the congressional districts are about 225 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,799 eight hundred thousand at this point. That's how you divide. 226 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,320 You take the total population count and you divide it 227 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,000 by four hundred and thirty five, and every state gets 228 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,159 at least one House seat. But then you have to 229 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,399 have every district be the same amount of people, And 230 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,039 right now we're at about one hundred. It's like a 231 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:23,200 between eight hundred and eight hundred and fifty thousand residents 232 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Democratic voting states would have lost nine seats net, nine 233 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:39,600 seats out of the House. That's pretty big considering how 234 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,799 close the House is right now. Also, think of the 235 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,559 impact on the electoral college. I mean, it didn't matter 236 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,879 because Trump ran the table on all of the swing states, right, 237 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:56,960 But what if he had not, if the inaccurate population 238 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,639 data effectively robbed Republicans of five to ten seats in 239 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,079 the House in twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, and twenty 240 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,240 twenty four. Part of the GOP argument for aggressive mid 241 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:14,319 decade jerrymanders could be they're rectifying the outrageous and costly 242 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:20,559 failure of a federal agency, which seems dare I say 243 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:27,480 it fair, you guys, did these lines or did the 244 00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:30,759 counts rather in such a sloppy way that you penalmized 245 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:35,599 our party from having a nine seat What would be 246 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,400 I guess a eleven seat majority at this point, because 247 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,720 I think they have a two seat majority. I forget. 248 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:46,960 So we are correcting that mistake, and after the next census, 249 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,440 maybe it'll be better conducted, and then we'll do better maps. 250 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:54,799 Here's a great idea. 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Call or 269 00:18:56,319 --> 00:18:59,640 text eight two eight three six seven seventy sixty eight. 270 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:02,160 Check out all there is to offer at Cabins of 271 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,640 Aashville dot com and make memories that'll last a lifetime. 272 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,799 I did receive a message apparently I messed up on 273 00:19:08,839 --> 00:19:11,640 some of the math earlier. It was my understanding that 274 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,880 there would be no math. I'm saying, yeah, all right, 275 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,359 so let me correct the math on that redistricting calculation. 276 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:23,759 John says, those nine seats that the census screwed up 277 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:28,519 would actually be an eighteen seat swing, right, because I 278 00:19:28,519 --> 00:19:32,559 didn't subtract it away from the Democrats. Because the Republicans 279 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:36,599 would pick up nine seats, the Democrats would lose nine seats, 280 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:42,559 and so that's an eighteen seat majority now or added 281 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:47,400 to the majority. Right, that's a large swing. Yes, thank you, John, 282 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,559 I appreciate that. No, the last hour was a discussion 283 00:19:52,559 --> 00:20:02,680 about man keeping, not manscaping. Bob Michael Wattley is expected 284 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:09,440 to formally announce tomorrow afternoon in Gaston Well he has 285 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,720 filed the paperwork to run for US Senate. Nick Craig, 286 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,160 who hosts the Carolina Journal Hour here on WBT at 287 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,039 five am, he's got the screenshot the receipts, as the 288 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,480 kids call it up on Twitter, the page has or yeah, 289 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,359 the filing has been submitted. He has officially filed paperwork 290 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:36,279 to run for US Senate. So that's that. Eric said, 291 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,000 it's critical to remember that when Democrats draw squiggily snake 292 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,440 districts the width of an interstate, that's democracy. When Republicans 293 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,640 replace the squiggly districts with compact districts, that's jerry manderin 294 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,680 exactly right, that's jerry mandering, which is always hilarious to 295 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,359 me when Democrats accuse Republicans of jerry mandering and then 296 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,319 you just show them the maps, like here's the last 297 00:21:01,319 --> 00:21:05,480 map you guys drew, and it's like squiggly lines everywhere, 298 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,079 Like people don't believe this, But the district that was 299 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:15,920 drawn for mel Watt, it was the it was the 300 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,240 twelfth I think it was. I think it was the 301 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,200 twelfth district, but I don't know because the numbers changed 302 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,440 a bit, But yeah, I believe it was the twelfth. 303 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,839 That district ran from Charlotte to Greensboro, and at some 304 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,440 points was I eighty five. In order to connect it 305 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:38,319 up there, to get it all the way there, to 306 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,440 capture the precise, correct demographical breakdown of the voters that 307 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,960 they wanted in there, they jerrymandered it all the way 308 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 up the inner state. This and it was the subject 309 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,200 of litigation. And by the way, the map that first 310 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,720 started doing this was approved out of the Senate by 311 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,559 none other than Roy Cooper. It was he was the 312 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:02,640 Senate majority leader at the time. These were his maps. 313 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,400 He was named on like all of the litigation challenging 314 00:22:07,839 --> 00:22:12,799 the constitutionality of that district. So and then they got 315 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,799 smacked down they had to redraw it again. In all 316 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:18,680 of this in violation of the Voting Rights Act. Yeah, yeah, 317 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,599 I mean, there's like all of the things that they say, 318 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,920 you Republicans are, you know, somehow uniquely evil in the 319 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,079 way you've drawn the maps in North Carolina. But you 320 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,000 guys had rulings against you on the exact same grounds. 321 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,759 And then of course when Republicans are drawing them and 322 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,279 they're following the rules which you have to keep the 323 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:40,480 districts compact, they have like what they call clusters or 324 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:44,880 groupings of these areas for the state legislative maps and stuff, 325 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,319 and so they're actually complying with the law. And they're like, 326 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,519 you can't use race. They were told by the courts 327 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:53,599 you cannot use race, Okay, so we don't use race. 328 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,000 We use party labels. And then they get sued over that, 329 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,559 and then the Supreme Court reverses itself and says, oh, 330 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,799 that's obviously racism. They're but we did not use race, 331 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,799 we used party identification. They're like, well, when ninety percent 332 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:12,920 of African American voters vote Democrat, it's basically a proxy. Like, well, 333 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960 but that's assuming that that's a static thing, that all 334 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,960 Democrats or that ninety percent are going to continue to 335 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 vote Democrat. And what we see now is that lo 336 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,759 and behold, they are not doing so so much anymore, 337 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:30,680 particularly the dudes, the men. The Washington Post out with 338 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,559 the story today, Republicans won young men last year. While 339 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,720 fifty five percent supported Democrats in twenty twenty, support dropped 340 00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:44,160 to forty six percent in twenty twenty four. So that's 341 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:50,240 a nine point drop. Young Men of color in particular 342 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:54,680 swung toward Trump, which is weird because I've been told 343 00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:00,680 he's a racist, a racist Orange man. Republicans also saw 344 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:04,440 noticeable gains among Latino and Black men ages eighteen to 345 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:10,519 twenty five. So what happened? Young men in swing states 346 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:14,359 say that the Democrat Party abandoned them, leaving them feeling 347 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,359 helpless in providing for their families as prices rose and 348 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:23,720 jobs evaporated. They felt no sympathy from the left, who 349 00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:29,240 they say brushed away their legitimate economic woes by citing 350 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,839 their male privilege. These men. This is part of a 351 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,519 focus group that was done for Democrats that the Washington 352 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:44,559 Post obviously got. They acknowledge these people that participated, these 353 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:50,680 dudes that participated in the focus groups. They acknowledged historical patriarchy, 354 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:55,960 but they asserted that that doesn't make them invincible in 355 00:24:56,039 --> 00:25:00,720 a job market where graduate unemployment is concentrated among men, 356 00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,839 What does that mean graduate unemployment? It means men with 357 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:12,319 degrees are unemployed. In fact, I saw another headline yesterday 358 00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:17,519 that men who have college degrees have the same unemployment 359 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,400 level as men without college degrees, which means, what, There's 360 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,599 no point in getting a college degree anymore, is there? 361 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,279 If if you're going to be suffering from the same 362 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,160 unemployment levels. The idea was, the promise was the pitch, 363 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,759 I should say, the sales pitch was get the degree 364 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,559 and then you'll be able to get into lines of 365 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:44,480 work where you'll, you know, be able to provide for 366 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,279 your family, make good money, pay back the student loans 367 00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:53,200 which we've just jacked up, and you'll be safer from unemployment. 368 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,680 These are the latest findings and focused groups conducted by 369 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,720 the centrist pro democratic group called Third Way, along with 370 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:07,160 hit Strategies Hit Strategies. They did these focus groups with 371 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,960 men ages eighteen to twenty nine, and they did it 372 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:17,119 in the swing states Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and 373 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:24,200 US North Carolina. The men were lower propensity voters, which 374 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,039 means what means that they will vote in the presidential elections, 375 00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:30,799 but they tend not to turn out in the midterm elections. 376 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:36,440 And these were voters that voted for Joe Biden in 377 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:42,319 twenty twenty but switched to Trump last year. That's who 378 00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:47,440 they focus grouped or focused group focused grouped. That's who 379 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,880 they asked. That's who they spoke with to try to 380 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,640 figure out what did the Democrat Party do wrong with 381 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,079 this cohort, and they just told them you abandoned us. 382 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,039 You left us feeling helpless in providing for our families. 383 00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:07,240 And when we said this stuff, we got eye rolls 384 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:13,599 from you. The Democrat Party ignored our complaints. You know, 385 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,200 stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, 386 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,680 to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of 387 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,000 our past while transcending generations. They help us process the 388 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:26,519 meaning of life, and our stories are told through images 389 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:30,359 and videos. 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They'll be ready in a week or two. 397 00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:58,279 Memorial videos for your loved ones, videos for rehearsal, dinners, weddings, graduations, Christmas, 398 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,599 family vacations, birthdays, or just your family stories all told 399 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,359 through images. That's what your photos and videos are. They 400 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,200 are your life told through the eyes of everyone around 401 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,519 you and all who came before you, and they will 402 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:14,880 tell others to come who you are visit creative video 403 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,240 dot com. Men told the focus groups, these are men 404 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,759 that voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty men of 405 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:24,000 all races. They voted for Biden and then they switched 406 00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:28,720 for Trump. These are men in swing states, North Carolina included, 407 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,759 and they said that they felt left behind and that 408 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,039 the Democrat Party abandoned them and that the party felt 409 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,640 no sympathy or that the men felt that there was 410 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,920 no sympathy from the party when they said, hey, I 411 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,440 want to be able to provide for my family, they 412 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:55,359 were like patriarchy, privilege, eye roll. And that's precisely the problem. 413 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,599 I've talked about this in the past, when you have 414 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,440 political parties that are made up of coalitions of different 415 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,640 people right different groups. They they especially the Democrat Party 416 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,000 is like a very good example of this because they 417 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:19,319 you know, this intersectionality way of thinking where you're all 418 00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:21,960 you know, oppressor or oppressed, and so if you can 419 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,759 find out like, okay, well, law group is the oppressed 420 00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,519 because you're never the oppressor, and then you have this 421 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,759 intersection with these other oppressed groups, and so we can 422 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:36,400 all band together and fight the patriarch, sorry, the oppressors. Right. Well, 423 00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:42,440 if any gains that are made by that political party 424 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,599 are not realized or felt among the different coalitions, the 425 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:53,160 ones that are that are you know, less benefited by 426 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,079 the coalition by being in that coalition, they will start 427 00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,559 to look elsewhere. Right. If you think of it as 428 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:01,119 like a pyramid almost and you or you know, a ladder, 429 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,240 you got people down at the bottom in that coalition, 430 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,079 and you know, they keep voting for this stuff, but 431 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,960 they're not getting any of their wishes fulfilled. And in fact, 432 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,079 it seems like the party is working against them on things, 433 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,400 blaming them for things, or just not talking to them 434 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:21,200 or about them or about what they want. They will 435 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:25,960 seek to get their wishes fulfilled by the other party, 436 00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:28,160 and the other party can look at them and say, oh, 437 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,720 they're not addressing this. I'm gonna go take it. It's 438 00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,400 one of the biggest blind spots Democrats have had on 439 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Donald Trump, which is that Donald Trump is basically a Democrat. 440 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,440 It's the most amazing thing to have witnessed. He was 441 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,319 a lifelong Democrat. I'm not saying that as an insult, 442 00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:48,680 although I do say Democrat as an insult a lot, 443 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,519 so it may be confusing, But no, I'm not saying 444 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:53,319 that I'd like to insult Trump. But Donald Trump was 445 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:57,519 a New York City a Democrat, not about liberal, but 446 00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:00,400 he was a Democrat. And so the thing that he 447 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,119 is talking about now are things that Democrats talked about 448 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,359 back thirty years ago. Not a surprise they could have. 449 00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:11,160 The Democratic Party has gone so far to the left 450 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,519 they don't even recognize themselves as they were what they 451 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,000 used to stand for, like ten years ago. On immigration, 452 00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:25,839 for example, Lucas Holtz, a political analyst with Third Way, 453 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:31,480 which conducted the surveys, said, there is complete misconception from 454 00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:35,839 Democrats and especially from progressives about young men moving away 455 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,519 from the party and takes it from it was all 456 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,720 because of inflation. To the guys that supported Trump are 457 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:47,519 in cells and sexist. In cells are it's an abbreviation 458 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:53,039 for involuntarily celibate. In other words, they can't get girls. 459 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:58,839 So that's what the Democrat Party messaging has been towards 460 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,119 these guys. So they're like, uh, it's just a really 461 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:10,000 terrible stereotype that has a backlash effect on Democrats. Former 462 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,000 President Barack Obama sounded the alarm when he was on 463 00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:17,799 his wife's podcast earlier this month, saying that support for 464 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,480 young men is often mistaken for neglect of women's rights, 465 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,400 but he said it's not a zero sum game. He said, quote, 466 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,359 we don't think about boys and just assume that they're 467 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,400 going to be okay, because they've been running the world. Okay, 468 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,319 the boys have not been running the world. Okay, the 469 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:37,200 boys are just boys. They've only been on the planet 470 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,079 for like, you know, eighteen years. They're they're not controlling 471 00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:44,400 all of the world. Besides, I thought, wasn't that wasn't 472 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,759 that Israel that did all of that? I thought that 473 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,759 was the Uh. I thought that's the deal. Yeah, sorry, 474 00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:53,240 Oh I did play a SoundBite. Never mind, that's a joke. 475 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,960 It's just the joke. So he says, all of which 476 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,759 has historically been true in all kinds of ways. We've 477 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:03,759 made that mistake sometimes in terms of our rhetoric, where 478 00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:06,680 it's like we're constantly talking about what's wrong with the 479 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:12,000 boys instead of what's right with them. This is a 480 00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:17,440 breakthrough moment I think for Democrats. If true that if 481 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,440 you talk to people and you blame them, and you 482 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,920 criticize them for all sorts of stuff all the time, 483 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:24,920 they're less likely to want to help you. And if 484 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880 you point out the stuff that they're doing that's good, 485 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,240 they are more likely to help you. If this is true, man, 486 00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:40,359 he may have just changed the political calculation here. Ironically enough, 487 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:46,559 Obama was the only Democrat that the focus group participants 488 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:53,119 could name as a masculine role model from that party. 489 00:33:53,839 --> 00:34:02,440 He's the only masculine role model. Barack Obama, the guy 490 00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:05,559 who was struggling to lift the two pound weights in 491 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:10,760 the undercover video from that hotel. That guy, that Barack Obama. Okay, 492 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:18,960 the only masculine role model, which is ironic because he 493 00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:22,840 was deemed not masculine enough. There were all sorts of people 494 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,639 who don't remember the Obama presidency. There were all sorts 495 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:32,079 of reporting and punditry about how he has not perceived 496 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:36,320 is tough enough and masculine enough to go into these 497 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,079 international negotiations and such anyway, So that's the state of 498 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:45,159 the Democrat Party. One participant in the focus group said, 499 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,480 I think being a masculine leader is like outlawed in 500 00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:55,239 the Democratic Party right now. Trump broke through with economic 501 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,320 promises that appealed to many young men's desires to be 502 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,719 financially self suffici and to support their families once again, 503 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,280 almost as if there is some sort of an instinctive 504 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:13,639 need among men to be some kind of provider or something. 505 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,920 The focus group participants were not heavy news consumers. Largely 506 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,480 they were informed through social media and podcasts, but they 507 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,960 were still able to list off Trump's economic policy promises. 508 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,559 They could rattle them off no tax on tips, right, 509 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:37,679 which speaks to Trump's ability to create powerful messaging. Meanwhile, 510 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,960 focus group participants said Democrat messaging, especially to young black 511 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,880 and Latino men, felt like they were being pandered to 512 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:50,239 based on their race. Oh look, there's a perfectly rational 513 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,760 explanation for that, because you were That is exactly what 514 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,199 they were doing. Yes, people aren't stupid. They saw what 515 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,960 was happening, They knew what you were doing. They didn't 516 00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:06,320 much appreciate it. So it's recommended by the focus group 517 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,920 people that the Democrats come up with something that can 518 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,400 be condensed into a three words slogan. 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