Speaker 1: O friend of the air, Hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: This is the Occult of Conspiracy. And my name's Jonathan.
Speaker 1: I'm Jacob and today Jacob. Let the good cult members
Speaker 1: know what we're getting into today, sir so.
Speaker 2: As I was doing my thing ruse and the interwebs
Speaker 2: to find inspiration for contentation, right, and I don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, there was a few things that stood out.
Speaker 2: A lot of them. Actually we just talked about on
Speaker 2: the Cajun Night last night. We Tulsi Gabbard apparently just
Speaker 2: fired a one hundred NSA agents right for sexually explicit
Speaker 2: conversations that were going on in chat rooms. And the
Speaker 2: you know, the more I looked into that, the more
Speaker 2: I just felt gross. Apparently this was a post op
Speaker 2: transgenders that just got castrated, that were explaining how they
Speaker 2: can still derive sexual pleasure without all the proper parts
Speaker 2: and bits, and it threw things for a loop, it
Speaker 2: really did. Right then, as I continue scrolling through the interwebs,
Speaker 2: I find the cash Pattel today as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: just call for the arrest of Biden and Kamala, which
Speaker 2: makes me happy, all right, The uh that's gonna come
Speaker 2: through to fruition or not, but it makes me happy
Speaker 2: to see it.
Speaker 1: You know, just saying I appreciate the the love and support.
Speaker 1: You know, because back whenever Trump came into office the
Speaker 1: first time, you know, whenever he was going around and
Speaker 1: you know, having all his rallies and everything, and then
Speaker 1: he was having the debate against Hillary, said, because you'd
Speaker 1: be in jail, and so we were all kind of
Speaker 1: waiting for her to go to fucking jail, right, which
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he didn't send her to jail because
Speaker 1: there's several different clones of her or something, but Biden nonetheless,
Speaker 1: same kind of deal. But either way, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel bad to even put Biden in jail. Dude,
Speaker 1: he needs to be in an old folks home, Like,
Speaker 1: just let him live out the rest of his miserable,
Speaker 1: forgetful life and try and make something. I mean, I
Speaker 1: understand the notion for like, well, look what he did,
Speaker 1: and I don't think any of that was really him,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Like, he was a scumbag
Speaker 1: his entire life, but his later years, I mean, he
Speaker 1: was senile facts.
Speaker 2: But at the same time he pardoned everyone else except himself.
Speaker 2: So like someone's gotta pay quote unquote, but I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna throw them in jail for the
Speaker 2: next three years of his life. If oh, and it's
Speaker 2: not even gonna be jail, he's not going to like
Speaker 2: gin Pop. He's not going to San Quentin, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like he's he's I don't see it
Speaker 2: being really worth anything. However, I'm with you. I like
Speaker 2: that Cash Betel is at least bringing this forward in
Speaker 2: this way. I like that Tulsa Gabbard is firing agents
Speaker 2: from the nssay that just that tickles bit insides. I'm
Speaker 2: happy to hear, dude, indeed. But then again, as I
Speaker 2: was scrolling through the interwebs, I stumbled up on something
Speaker 2: involving the moon. Now, for this episode, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: ahead and give a disclamer to all the good cult
Speaker 2: members just off of the assumption that space is not
Speaker 2: faking gay. Okay, just just for two seconds, let's pretend
Speaker 2: that the moon is a real thing, that it is
Speaker 2: something that humans have at one point in time gone
Speaker 2: to maybe not sixty nine. Okay, fine, some of the
Speaker 2: articles and things that I have will say that. But
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we really know the truth on that.
Speaker 2: But my point is there's some things about the moon
Speaker 2: that do not make sense. Right. I'm pretty sure we
Speaker 2: could all acknowledge this. Okay, there's no such thing as
Speaker 2: a cult source generator, yet somehow the moon is just that.
Speaker 2: We don't know why the dark side of the moon
Speaker 2: is what it is, or why the craters of the
Speaker 2: moon look like they are a reflection of the Earth itself,
Speaker 2: as in the shapes and the shades on the continents
Speaker 2: and things like that. So there's there's some speculation to
Speaker 2: be had on this. Then I discovered the Abaca alignment.
Speaker 2: Jonathan you you, being the spiritual person that you have,
Speaker 2: have you ever heard that term be used? I didn't
Speaker 2: until today, But then whenever I found the definition of it,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, I didn't know there was a
Speaker 2: term for this. Have you heard of this.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different modalities like that that are
Speaker 1: just so random. No, I haven't heard of that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So essentially, and I'm probably mispronounced sing it as
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, but it is.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Pyramids of Giza, for instance, the three great pyramids
Speaker 2: that are mirroring the stars, that is the abaka or
Speaker 2: a banka or whatever the fuck alignment. Okay, and it
Speaker 2: is very significant in sacred geometry to have things mirror
Speaker 2: each other in this way, in this particular type of alignment.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of significance to it. Okay. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: not somebody who is well versed in the sacred geometry,
Speaker 2: or in the spirituality or in the you know, you
Speaker 2: know me, I'm pretty much not that guy. But okay,
Speaker 2: and I was like, wait, why is why is the
Speaker 2: abaca alignment being spoken of in the same sentence as
Speaker 2: the moon? This is a little interesting to me. Well,
Speaker 2: that would be because they have found monuments and structures
Speaker 2: on the Moon that had the exact same alignment as
Speaker 2: the Pyramids of Giza and a couple of other significant
Speaker 2: structures in Egypt. So I decided, let's just delve into it.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm gonna go ahead and share the
Speaker 2: screen at this time, and we have some Vigia's, we
Speaker 2: got some articles we got and things. You know, let's
Speaker 2: just start off with this click quick little clip of
Speaker 2: ancient aliens. They give an overarching theme to it all
Speaker 2: that we're going to go more in depth.
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Speaker 2: Baby, let's go all right, now, buckle up, everybody, because
Speaker 2: apparently there is not moon of pyramids on the Moon.
Speaker 2: There's obelisks on the Moon, and it's not even on
Speaker 2: the dark side. Get ready for this, bro.
Speaker 4: November nineteen sixty six, three years before the Apollo astronauts
Speaker 4: made it to the Moon, the Orbiter II spacecraft situates
Speaker 4: itself in lunar orbit. It was designed to capture high
Speaker 4: resolution images of the surface to assist with the selection
Speaker 4: of landing sites for the Apollo missions. One image in
Speaker 4: particular catches the eye of researchers as it shows what
Speaker 4: to be the shadows of several pointed spires.
Speaker 2: All right before I let it continue playing, so we
Speaker 2: understand that we're talking about. The sun is shining on
Speaker 2: the Moon as it does, and there is shadows being
Speaker 2: cast by rocks, by the ledge of craters and things
Speaker 2: like this. These images right here, that is not from
Speaker 2: a rock, because you look at the shadow of these rocks.
Speaker 2: It's short, it's right there. These are tall, pointy structures
Speaker 2: that you can't see from right over top, like the
Speaker 2: orbiter is showing. But the shadows cast by them, Bro.
Speaker 1: Dude, it almost looks like those like the trees that
Speaker 1: you'd see in swamps.
Speaker 2: Oh, like cypress trees.
Speaker 1: The cypress. Yeah, they're like real pointy like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. So this was the first image that I
Speaker 2: found as far as looking at these structures on the moon,
Speaker 2: and apparently China has recently they landed their lunar rover
Speaker 2: to go into the dark side of the Moon. I
Speaker 2: found some other stuff. We're going to talk about that
Speaker 2: here in a minute, but just this was the first image.
Speaker 2: And you know me, I'm always the one that's trying
Speaker 2: to look at things through a logical lens and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: well that's probably you know this, or it's this, and
Speaker 2: it's like no. The more you look at it, the
Speaker 2: more you realize no, something has to be really tall
Speaker 2: to cast that kind of a shadow on the moon.
Speaker 2: And this is allegedly before humans had ever stepped foot
Speaker 2: on the moon, if we are to believe that they
Speaker 2: indeed did that, So what in the hell is casting
Speaker 2: these shadows?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: You know, and the thing about the moon is is
Speaker 1: that we like to apply our own understanding, you know,
Speaker 1: of what happens in physics and stuff like that. We
Speaker 1: like to apply that to the moon. But it's not
Speaker 1: always the case, right, Like, it doesn't even have gravity,
Speaker 1: you know, and so it makes me wonder how rocks
Speaker 1: are even able to stick to it. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: it has something to do with density or who gives
Speaker 1: a fuck, but you know, it's it's interesting to see
Speaker 1: these structures line up like that. But we don't really
Speaker 1: I well, I don't want to say we I don't
Speaker 1: really understand how any kind of rock formation would even
Speaker 1: form on the Moon. That probably even sounds like a
Speaker 1: silly sentiment, but like, you know, we don't know what's
Speaker 1: natural over there. I don't know what's natural to it.
Speaker 2: So the Moon has gravity, but not as much as
Speaker 2: Earth has. It's not as large as Earth, right, So
Speaker 2: that's why the videos, which we know, they are hung
Speaker 2: up on cables and wires, and that's why they look
Speaker 2: like they're bouncing like this. But even you know, whenever
Speaker 2: you do something on the Moon, the dust kind of
Speaker 2: takes an extra you know, thirty minutes or some shit
Speaker 2: to settle, even from a random footstep. So gravity in
Speaker 2: one case, and then I didn't even know the Moon
Speaker 2: was at one time volcanic, which apparently the Chinese rover
Speaker 2: discovered some of the tubul structures going to what was
Speaker 2: at one point a active volcano on the Moon. Now
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can even have that. But again,
Speaker 2: I'm not a science guy. I'm not a physicist by
Speaker 2: any means. But either way, it goes like rocks being
Speaker 2: on the Moon, I get. But that's not just rocks,
Speaker 2: Like I said, all around it. You can see shadows
Speaker 2: from other figures that's going on here. Nothing is casting
Speaker 2: that long of a shadow. Even if it was everything
Speaker 2: on this plane was casting a shadow that long, I
Speaker 2: could even understand that, right, It's just the angle of
Speaker 2: the Sun at that moment. These are absolutely standing out. Bro.
Speaker 2: So I mean, let's listen in This is from the
Speaker 2: history of Channel's ancient aliens and their descriptions of it.
Speaker 2: Believe it, don't believe it. It's whatever. We will have
Speaker 2: more articles in here in a moment to discuss more,
Speaker 2: but let's continue.
Speaker 6: On November twentieth, nineteen sixty six, the Lunar Orbiter two,
Speaker 6: NASA's probe photographs this area on the Moon that was
Speaker 6: actually in the Sea of Tranquility, only three hundred kilometers
Speaker 6: away from where Apollo eleven ended up landing. And what's
Speaker 6: so bizarre is that this area has undeniable architecture that
Speaker 6: looks like what you would see from obelisks. There's eight
Speaker 6: different spires, and scientists calculated that the largest of these
Speaker 6: spires would be an obelisk that is fifteen stories tall.
Speaker 6: These do appear to be just like an Egyptian style obelisk.
Speaker 6: But what the heck are they doing on the Moon.
Speaker 7: Of the multiple anomalies on the Moon, I think the
Speaker 7: spires are some of the most fascinating ones because astronomers
Speaker 7: have calculated that these spires are very tall. For them
Speaker 7: to be exclusively natural occurrences.
Speaker 3: They have to be artificial simply from the fact that
Speaker 3: the Moon has been bombarded in kind of an incessant
Speaker 3: meteoric rain for four point five billion years. There is
Speaker 3: no way that anything bigger than a basketball can be
Speaker 3: standing straight up on the lunar surface.
Speaker 8: The inference is that NASA would have known this, and
Speaker 8: that one of the reasons that they sent their mission
Speaker 8: there was so that the astronauts of the Apollo mission
Speaker 8: could gain more information about these artificial structures on the Moon.
Speaker 1: Now com go insane, go hey, com go sergein gop
Speaker 1: com or go for undocking.
Speaker 3: Eagle TUNC on Apollo eleven, when the astronauts were descending
Speaker 3: to the lunar surface, they got this very strange computer alarm.
Speaker 5: Twelve two alarm.
Speaker 3: Alarm, the famous twelve oh two computer alarm, and it
Speaker 3: then basically nobody knew what it was. What it came
Speaker 3: out to was that the computer itself was overwhelmed with
Speaker 3: information because Buzz Aldrin, the lunar module pilot, had turned
Speaker 3: on the radars on the lunar lander. It had two
Speaker 3: radars that had a si looking radar, and it had
Speaker 3: a docking radar.
Speaker 1: Some other words.
Speaker 3: You had one that pointed down and one that pointed
Speaker 3: to the side. Now, if there's nothing on the surface
Speaker 3: of the Moon, if there are no artificial structures, if
Speaker 3: there are no spires sticking ten twenty stories up into
Speaker 3: the sky, why would you turn on the side radar.
Speaker 3: There's no reason to But Aldron did it, and I
Speaker 3: think it's because he knew and NASA knew that there
Speaker 3: was some danger of running into these things.
Speaker 4: Is it possible that NASA actually has knowledge of structures
Speaker 4: on the Moon. In nineteen sixty, NASA officials commissioned a
Speaker 4: report from the Brookings Institute to weigh the implications of
Speaker 4: the discovery of evidence of extra terrestrial life. Due to
Speaker 4: the findings of the report, researchers believe it was determined
Speaker 4: before the Moon missions to keep any extraterrestrial findings hidden
Speaker 4: from the public for fear of social unrest.
Speaker 5: Since the time of the very first Apollo Moon missions,
Speaker 5: researchers have poured over NASA and Russian photos of the Moon.
Speaker 1: Looking for structures, and they found some unusual things.
Speaker 9: You would think, in fact, that effectra trestrials are on
Speaker 9: the Moon or were, that they would have built all
Speaker 9: kinds of structures, and we're able to see some of these,
Speaker 9: even though NASA scientists don't acknowledge them as genuine.
Speaker 2: Okay, so before we continue, Jonathan, what is your thoughts
Speaker 2: at this time.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting that they would have spires, you know,
Speaker 1: like I know that we've looked into like cathedral spires
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and it seems to be that
Speaker 1: it seems to be, at least from understanding, some kind
Speaker 1: of ancient technology that for some reason they're not necessarily
Speaker 1: using so much anymore. Maybe it was bringing in electricity
Speaker 1: from the ether or something along those lines. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting that they all had these spires on the cathedrals,
Speaker 1: and so whenever you see the spires on the moon,
Speaker 1: you know, it makes you question, like, I mean, could
Speaker 1: it have been like an ancient like antenna that that's
Speaker 1: how you would connect on that side. And so I
Speaker 1: was thinking about that and then literally as of today
Speaker 1: I found let's see where it was, they are launching
Speaker 1: moon cellular service on the on the moon right now.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, it's a let's see, it's a Texas
Speaker 1: company called Intuitive Machines that are teaming up with elon
Speaker 1: Musk SpaceX. But the cell or it's going to be
Speaker 1: a four G network and it's uh, it's by none
Speaker 1: other than Nokia is getting in on the game.
Speaker 2: Look at them trying to make a comeback. Good God,
Speaker 2: send the Nokia bricks up there.
Speaker 1: Oh you have to indestructible.
Speaker 2: But aliens need to learn how to play snake Man.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting, Yeah, but it's interesting about you know,
Speaker 1: like you got the spires and now you've got cell
Speaker 1: service going there, and so maybe those spires were some
Speaker 1: kind of ancient antenna or something. We don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't even understand the full under like why there
Speaker 1: were pyramids, right, and you're saying that it's kind of
Speaker 1: lining up with the pyramids here. Some people say that
Speaker 1: it was used for teleportation or or maybe you would
Speaker 1: get into the pyramid and it would have the gold
Speaker 1: plate at the top for conductivity and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So then you'd go into the king's chamber. And they said, dude,
Speaker 1: just going into the king's chamber in the pyramid, it
Speaker 1: was so uh, it was like a place where allegedly,
Speaker 1: this is a story that I heard, where the king
Speaker 1: would kind of go there to heal himself and meditate
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And could it have been some
Speaker 1: kind of psychedelic experience because they say that there's some
Speaker 1: kind of resonant frequency inside of that king's chamber, which
Speaker 1: is really strange even still today without the gold, the
Speaker 1: gold whatever it was, the gold cap at the top.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean, I think that what we're
Speaker 1: quote unquote discovering is nothing new. I think that I'm
Speaker 1: actually surprised that they're even telling us about this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, but on the moon though, on Earth I
Speaker 2: could understand, well, at least we don't understand, but at
Speaker 2: least I can get the picture as far as human
Speaker 2: hands probably built it, or it was being used for
Speaker 2: something that may have just been lost to time, and
Speaker 2: we don't exactly know what it is, but we know
Speaker 2: that they had it, and it was very significant because
Speaker 2: they built so many of them in certain areas, and like, okay,
Speaker 2: I can at least put the puzzle pieces together to
Speaker 2: form maybe not the whole picture, but I could at
Speaker 2: least tell that it's a horse, you know what I mean? Like, okay,
Speaker 2: fair enough, there's some peaces missing. But then when we
Speaker 2: talk about eight spires on the moon and one of
Speaker 2: them being fourteen stories high, yeah, I allegedly. Now keep
Speaker 2: in mind, we did do an episode about the Nation
Speaker 2: of Islam and the Nueviian Nation of Moors, both of
Speaker 2: which believe that humanity came from the moon. So is
Speaker 2: this to say that that's where the human race came
Speaker 2: from and then landed in Egypt and that's why they
Speaker 2: kind of built some of the same structures. Do they
Speaker 2: have it right?
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, look, if you listen to like a
Speaker 1: lot of UFO stories, and I know there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that are absolutely bullshitting their stories, there's no
Speaker 1: question about it. But if you hear some of them,
Speaker 1: a lot of them say that, you know, some of
Speaker 1: the craft and some of the technology seems to be
Speaker 1: like real ancient almost as if it was like biological technology.
Speaker 1: And so you know, and you remember they've been talking
Speaker 1: about this Black Night satellite for the longest time, right,
Speaker 1: and how that could potentially be some kind of craft
Speaker 1: of sorts. And so whenever you see these spires look
Speaker 1: like they're organically biologically rising up from the surface of
Speaker 1: the Moon, makes me wonder if this is some kind
Speaker 1: of ancient technology. I mean, who's to say, right, ancient
Speaker 1: alien type things, which is why I was on the
Speaker 1: History Channel's Ancient Alien Show. But now, okay, looking at
Speaker 1: the alignment of them, they're not just scattered in random formations.
Speaker 1: They are, in fact all in accordance with the Abaca alignment.
Speaker 2: So let's pull up this article here. This is from
Speaker 2: Wonder Aggressive Abaca Alignment a Cosmic Blueprint. So what is
Speaker 2: the Abaca alignment? As we push forward in our understanding
Speaker 2: of the cosmos, numerous mysteries from space invite us to
Speaker 2: think deeper, challenging our perceptions of the universe. One such
Speaker 2: mystery is the so called Abaca alignment. Again, I may
Speaker 2: be mispronouncing that. My apologies if I am a term
Speaker 2: used to describe an intriguing geometric arrangement on the Moon's
Speaker 2: surface which bears an uncanny resemblance to the layout of
Speaker 2: the Great Pyramids of Giza in Egypt. What makes the
Speaker 2: Abaca alignment interesting. The intrigues surrounding the Abaca alignment first
Speaker 2: arose from a series of photographs taken by the orbiter
Speaker 2: H two. If anybody would like to look that up,
Speaker 2: by the way and see the orbiter H two pictures,
Speaker 2: they are right there on Google. It's not like you
Speaker 2: have to look hard to find them. Approximately twenty three
Speaker 2: miles above the lunar surface, the images depict shadows cast
Speaker 2: by eight spires that, according to Russian scientists, share an
Speaker 2: identical geometrical arrangement to that of the Pyramid of Cheops, Chiops,
Speaker 2: Cheprin and Menkura at Giza. I know I'm butchering those pronunciations,
Speaker 2: y'all know what I mean. The Pyramids Giza, God damn it.
Speaker 2: Russian space engineers estimated that the largest of these spires
Speaker 2: stands as high as fifteen fifteen story building, challenging the
Speaker 2: American estimation that the largest proturbulence proturberance okay, is only
Speaker 2: forty to seventy five feet high. So the Russian scientists
Speaker 2: are looking to those shadows and they're making their own
Speaker 2: guestimations based off of the other shadows in that area,
Speaker 2: and they're saying that this is a fifteen story tall
Speaker 2: spire on the moon. Now, is this evidence of ancient civilizations?
Speaker 2: What made the Abaca alignment truly captivating was the claim
Speaker 2: made by Soviet space engineer Alexander Abramov. He stated that
Speaker 2: the positions of the lunar objects from a form an
Speaker 2: Egyptian triangle, a precise geometrical configuration known as an abaca
Speaker 2: in ancient Egypt. According to Abramov, the distribution of these
Speaker 2: lunar objects is similar to the plan of the Egyptian pyramids.
Speaker 2: Abrama's observations caused a stir in the scientific community, raising
Speaker 2: the possibility of an ancient civilization's influence on the Moon.
Speaker 2: Could this be a sign of an ancient civilization with
Speaker 2: advanced astrological knowledge, or perhaps a mere coincidence? Before we
Speaker 2: read anymore, I'm sorry, I don't believe in that type
Speaker 2: of coincidence. If you were to say that was even one,
Speaker 2: just maybe we had a crazy meteor and it just
Speaker 2: so happened to be very oblong shaped and it struck
Speaker 2: the Moon and it's stuck in the sand, and it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's one of them things. But like, okay, it's a
Speaker 2: rock that's sticking up out of the surface of the Moon. One. Okay,
Speaker 2: I could even believe that two in different spots on
Speaker 2: the Moon. Okay, we can have that conversation. Yo, eight
Speaker 2: of them in a proper Egyptian alignment. I'm sorry, what
Speaker 2: are we even talking about here?
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what they're made of. Does it
Speaker 1: say what specific kind of rock they're made of?
Speaker 2: Well, well, we will discuss a little bit later. As
Speaker 2: far as the astronauts, when they got to the Moon,
Speaker 2: apparently they didn't go to them and take samples, they
Speaker 2: didn't stick to they didn't go too far away from
Speaker 2: the lunar landing craft. They kind of went out, took
Speaker 2: a little you know, local samples to whatever, and then
Speaker 2: got back on and got back to Earth again. Allegedly,
Speaker 2: if we are to believe that buzz Audrin and his
Speaker 2: boy Neil were yeah, was it Neil.
Speaker 1: Armstrong yeah, Neil Armstrong.
Speaker 2: I get Lance and Neil confused. I know, once for
Speaker 2: the bike and once for the moon, but I forget
Speaker 2: which one did. Was so Neil arms.
Speaker 1: Lance's old half sack over there.
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. Okay. So if we are to
Speaker 2: believe that Buzz and Neil Neil made it to the
Speaker 2: moon and took samples, then okay, allegedly they didn't make
Speaker 2: their way to the spires, but why not? Was it
Speaker 2: because they were afraid of wrecking the landing craft into
Speaker 2: one of these things? Then they would have been like
Speaker 2: triply fucked because no one's coming out there to get them.
Speaker 2: Or were they turning on that side radar as a
Speaker 2: way to make sure they didn't hit them because they
Speaker 2: already knew they were there. These pictures were taking three
Speaker 2: years prior.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, I have such a hard time if even
Speaker 1: talking about the moon, because I have my own disbelief
Speaker 1: in NASA and disbelief in Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong
Speaker 1: and you know, all those guys, mainly because you hear,
Speaker 1: you know, interviews from Buzz Aldrin and he I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's off his fucking rocker or if he's
Speaker 1: toned the truth about it, you know, like he is
Speaker 1: always being questioned about it did he go to the
Speaker 1: moon and what did he experience on the moon? And
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I question if I even went. And
Speaker 1: it's like what are you what are you saying? Are
Speaker 1: you trying to say it without saying it? You know,
Speaker 1: there's that. But also I think that they were probably
Speaker 1: some kind of actors. Let's just be real here, like
Speaker 1: that bullshit that they claimed that they sent to the moon,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're not going to get into that,
Speaker 1: like we've shit on NASA and the Moon for as
Speaker 1: long as as as possible really, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that that that we should be saying, well, this was faked,
Speaker 1: so all of it has to be fake. I don't
Speaker 1: think that that's the right answer either.
Speaker 2: I think that right.
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, there is an object in the sky
Speaker 1: that shines a white light that is a little bit
Speaker 1: colder in the moonlight than it is in the shade.
Speaker 1: Clearly there's something there that is causing that to happen, right,
Speaker 1: And maybe you want to look at it like it's
Speaker 1: a plasma ball, where for this episode, looking at it
Speaker 1: like it is an actual physical thing up in the
Speaker 1: sky and uh, but yeah, I'd never seen these uh,
Speaker 1: these these spires that stick up out of the moon,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's pretty interesting too, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people out there with really powerful telescopes and
Speaker 1: cameras and stuff. A lot of people will you know,
Speaker 1: go all the way out and get the P nine
Speaker 1: hundred cameras which zoom in like crazy, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: those cameras you can't buy any more. Fucking NASA bought
Speaker 1: the contract out for it. So there's that, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, call that, call that a coincidence or whatever,
Speaker 1: especially whenever people are like zooming in and they're seeing
Speaker 1: like what seems to be little spacecraft going in and
Speaker 1: out of the Moon. I don't know if there's spacecraft,
Speaker 1: but it looks like something's flying into it and flying
Speaker 1: out almost like like, for example, I have a I
Speaker 1: have a large turtle tank right and every so often,
Speaker 1: and if the turtles don't eat all their food, then
Speaker 1: it forms into these tiny little mites. And the mites
Speaker 1: aren't bad. The turtles just end up eating them. But
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of looks like, you know, they're
Speaker 1: swimming through the water, just these tiny little water gnats.
Speaker 1: It almost looks like and that's what it reminds me
Speaker 1: of the moon. Like these things that are coming out
Speaker 1: of the moon. Is it a natural thing? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I understand the speculation around the moon. But for
Speaker 1: this episode, like we were saying, just like, imagine what
Speaker 1: if you know, you don't want to close yourself off
Speaker 1: to all the possibilities whenever it is regarding the moon.
Speaker 1: Just because we've been lied to, you can still look
Speaker 1: up in the sky and see it and imagine. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm trying to remain open minded for this one.
Speaker 2: Fair, fair, And I understand there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: listening that are of your belief on that to say
Speaker 2: that the Moon's not even real? What are you even
Speaker 2: talking about here? Right? Fine, I get that, But these
Speaker 2: pictures again were taken from a different source in sixty six.
Speaker 2: The Russian sign the ones that actually first weigh in
Speaker 2: on it, and they're the ones that are saying, look
Speaker 2: at these things, look at the pattern, look at the shapes.
Speaker 2: This is how tall they are. All these things. Now,
Speaker 2: you asked earlier what they're made out of, I would
Speaker 2: assume stone, But I'm going strictly off of my own
Speaker 2: assumptions here. I have no basis to go off of
Speaker 2: other than that, because to date, no one has actually
Speaker 2: gone and investigated the spires up close and personal, or
Speaker 2: if they have, they've kept it completely under wraps.
Speaker 1: Now does anybody ever mention, like, all right, so you know,
Speaker 1: how you dig into our ground, you'll see all these
Speaker 1: different minerals. You'll get to a certain level where there's clay,
Speaker 1: and then you eventually get to a certain level allegedly
Speaker 1: where there's you know, just like magama and shit. I
Speaker 1: wonder if anybody's ever really dug into the surface of
Speaker 1: the Moon to see the layers of whatever that's soil
Speaker 1: or whatever it's made up of. Is it all one thing?
Speaker 1: Is it several different things? I never heard of it.
Speaker 2: Kind of no one's dug However, the Chinese rover just
Speaker 2: recently did some scans of the area, and they discovered
Speaker 2: that the lava slash magma core of the Moon has
Speaker 2: been dormant and has gone cold for you know, allegedly
Speaker 2: billions of years or something along those lines. But apparently
Speaker 2: the Moon had active volcanoes at one point in time.
Speaker 2: If we are to believe the current standings of science,
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying they had an atmosphere. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying they had living creatures on it. None of these
Speaker 2: things are confirmed at this time, but some of the
Speaker 2: more recent scans and tests show, Like you know, we
Speaker 2: talked about those bacteria that live inside the lava lava
Speaker 2: tubes on Earth, Apparently there's lava tubes that are cold
Speaker 2: and dormant on the Moon. Nothing's living in them. But
Speaker 2: at least you can take like scans like the what's
Speaker 2: the one not light? Are the ones?
Speaker 3: Are?
Speaker 2: You? You send sound waves through the Earth and you
Speaker 2: could see what's underneath there. Apparently this Chinese rover had
Speaker 2: something akin to that, and they were able to see
Speaker 2: structures under the surface of the Moon, one of which
Speaker 2: is a massive dome on the dark side. But I
Speaker 2: am getting ahead of myself. We will get there here
Speaker 2: in a bit. But okay, as far as the spires
Speaker 2: are concerned, what's NASA's response, Right, So Russia came out
Speaker 2: with these things and they said, oh, it's got to
Speaker 2: be this tall, it's in this structure, the Abaca alignment.
Speaker 2: All this NASA's response. Now, despite the fascinating implications of
Speaker 2: the Abaca alignment, NASA has remained largely silent on the subject.
Speaker 2: While acknowledging the clarity of the photographs, the American Space
Speaker 2: Agency has refrained from speculation, stating the images quote have
Speaker 2: been filed for now. That's their response. What do you
Speaker 2: make of those structures? The images have been filed. Wait, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's not what we asked you. What is the answer
Speaker 2: on these What are they? What are your thoughts? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we have those, we have those images. They're in our
Speaker 2: filing cabinet.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, they're just not gonna divulge anymore, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, And that was the thing. They even said that
Speaker 2: if they found any source of life, then it was
Speaker 2: going to remain hidden from the public eye. They even
Speaker 2: said that in the first report before the astronauts even
Speaker 2: got to the Moon.
Speaker 1: Allegedly they got why are they doing that? I just
Speaker 1: don't under like, why are people upheaval? Who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1: If there's something on the Moon, like just zoom in
Speaker 1: on it. You'll see some weird activity going on there.
Speaker 1: And also I don't know what to really think of
Speaker 1: the Moon. I mean, you got certain astronauts saying that
Speaker 1: whenever the lunar module landed on the moon. The fucking
Speaker 1: thing wrung like a bell, you know, like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is it some kind of shell? Is it? Is it
Speaker 1: some kind of projection or something to where, you know,
Speaker 1: like you can't see a lot of the activity. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Hollow earth moon, I'm calling that out. Oh, hollow moon,
Speaker 1: not hollow earth.
Speaker 2: Hollow moon. I'm with you. NASA's reluctance to address the
Speaker 2: mystery has only fueled speculation among proponents of the Abaca
Speaker 2: alignment theory. Many wonder why an observation of such profound interests,
Speaker 2: one that could potentially revolutionize our understanding of ancient civilizations
Speaker 2: and their cosmic knowledge, has been seemingly brushed aside. And again, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's look at the time and the date in the place. Right.
Speaker 2: Sixty six is when these pictures were taken. Sixty nine
Speaker 2: is when humans got to Earth. America was not doing
Speaker 2: the best at this time. Okay, we were deep with
Speaker 2: the Cold War, we were about to get involved with Vietnam.
Speaker 2: JFK just got got okay, like the people were already
Speaker 2: very uneasy about a lot of things. To tell them
Speaker 2: up by the way, the moon we have stuff on it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe the people would have actually lost their minds. Now,
Speaker 2: I am with you, I don't believe that's the case.
Speaker 2: I believe people can handle it if you give them
Speaker 2: the information that they are asking about. But then again,
Speaker 2: Roswell happened in forty eight, was it or fifty two?
Speaker 2: I forget the exact forty one. It was in the
Speaker 2: late forties, and they kept that under wraps because they
Speaker 2: were so scared that people were going to just like
Speaker 2: lose their minds that they found out that alien life
Speaker 2: was real. Then we find these spires on the Moon,
Speaker 2: further confirmation that there is some sort of life out
Speaker 2: there other and what we know about on the terrestrial Earth.
Speaker 10: We got to keep it under wraps because people are
Speaker 10: gonna lose their minds. We got to keep them focused
Speaker 10: on the commis. That's clearly what the people we need
Speaker 10: all of our tension focused on the commis. Now, granted,
Speaker 10: I'm I don't believe commies are people, so like, I'm
Speaker 10: with that. But at the same time, if this is true,
Speaker 10: and it's saying ancient civilizations and their cosmic knowledge, it's
Speaker 10: very possible that most of the ancient civilizations.
Speaker 2: Didn't know about life on the moon. It's also equally
Speaker 2: possible that ancient civilizations knew all about it and claim
Speaker 2: direct lineage from the life on the moon. Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's there's stories abounding.
Speaker 1: I mean, just the simple fact that the spires seem
Speaker 1: to be lining up in some form or way with
Speaker 1: the Pyramids of Giza just goes to show that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, there was I'm not gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: say that they absolutely had some kind of spacecraft. Although
Speaker 1: if you look in on some of the some of
Speaker 1: the carvings right like, something looks not of this world,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the carvings that are like that,
Speaker 1: and let's just say that those weren't even things. Maybe
Speaker 1: that was just part of you know, the meditator's imagination.
Speaker 1: Let's just go that route. Well, I mean, where why
Speaker 1: is it that these are lining up with What's why
Speaker 1: is it that the pyramids are lining up with the
Speaker 1: spires on the moon? In that sense, it makes me think,
Speaker 1: I mean, was there some kind of like ancient remote viewing?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't think that that's anything new. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's new to us, but remote viewing. Fuck, I mean,
Speaker 1: just meditate for a little while. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they were thinking on coordinates like the people knew do nowadays.
Speaker 1: But I mean, is it crazy to you know, ask
Speaker 1: or project yourself to the moon. You gotta think these
Speaker 1: people were not everybody, but from what I've understood, dude
Speaker 1: big into meditating and and shit like that. Right, Like
Speaker 1: they were taken fasting and all that stuff very serious obviously.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it was fasting or starving.
Speaker 1: But same thing that.
Speaker 2: Depends culture to culture, you know. I mean, every culture's
Speaker 2: spirituality had some form of that. They probably called it
Speaker 2: by a different name, and they had different mechanics to
Speaker 2: what they did and how they did it. But I'm
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, whether they, you know, danced around a fire
Speaker 1: and started chanting some kind of crazy shit, it would
Speaker 1: put you into some kind of lucid stage or I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, you know, the the modalities
Speaker 1: they took to to line that up. But it's like
Speaker 1: it's weird. I mean, is are you are you gearing
Speaker 1: like towards this being a coincidence? The spires are you know,
Speaker 1: just like the same as the pyramids in a sense.
Speaker 2: Not even a slight bit of a coincidence here, brow
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, if it was one giant thing
Speaker 2: jutting up from the moon and it was that kind
Speaker 2: of a weird angle, and then when they you know,
Speaker 2: we got further pictures of it, and it looks like
Speaker 2: just a crazy, you know, asteroid that struck and it's
Speaker 2: in this weird shape. Why is it in that shape?
Speaker 2: We don't know, but like I could at least pretend
Speaker 2: to believe that for a second, eight of them in
Speaker 2: a specific structure, in a specific pattern. No, that is
Speaker 2: beyond any type of realm of coincidence to me. So
Speaker 2: with that being said, the need for further investigation. The
Speaker 2: Abaca alignment remains a tantalizing enigma, inviting further investigation. Although
Speaker 2: some skeptics attribute these lunar formations to natural processes, and
Speaker 2: we will get into some of what that could be
Speaker 2: here in a minute, but still it's not even close.
Speaker 2: The striking similarity to the Pyramids layout is a puzzle
Speaker 2: that we cannot ignore. Could these be mere optical illusions,
Speaker 2: a cosmic coincidence, or do they hold the keys to
Speaker 2: a deeper understanding of our past? As our capacity for
Speaker 2: lunar exploration advances, it may only be a matter of
Speaker 2: time before we find the answers. Regardless of the outcome,
Speaker 2: the Abaca alignment serves as a powerful reminder to the
Speaker 2: universe's mysteries, the cosmic riddles that provoke our curiosity and
Speaker 2: drive our ceaseless exploration into the vastness of space. And maybe,
Speaker 2: just maybe it will be the first in a series
Speaker 2: of discoveries that could change our understanding of the universe
Speaker 2: and our place within it. So that was the first
Speaker 2: article that I had to bring up. Now, apparently there
Speaker 2: is a pyramid like mountain on the Moon that's quote
Speaker 2: unquote missing its name. This is from astronomy dot com.
Speaker 2: By the way, the mystery of the pyramid on the
Speaker 2: Moon missing its name. This nameless lunar feature has been
Speaker 2: has had many names, including Mon's Unset, in honor of
Speaker 2: the nineteen twenty eight Nobel Prize winner Cigarette Unset. But
Speaker 2: look at this here, This is the Lambert Crater. Okay.
Speaker 2: Now again, any kind of person that wants to look
Speaker 2: up the images of lunar surface can look this up.
Speaker 2: The Lambert Crater. It's famous one. Okay. Just to the
Speaker 2: right of it is this mountain Mon's Unset. But you
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying as far as shadows go, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a tall shadow. Okay, fine, but you can see
Speaker 2: the dimensions of the thing that's causing the shadow. That
Speaker 2: makes sense. Those spires did not have something like that
Speaker 2: that was casting that type of a shadow.
Speaker 1: There's just so many questions about the moon, bro But
Speaker 1: if and like, I want to believe that most of
Speaker 1: these images are real because well, first off, it's coming
Speaker 1: from what are supposed to be trusted government agencies, and
Speaker 1: we like to believe that they're telling the truth on
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff because it's awesome, Like this is
Speaker 1: so awesome if this is real, you know, the spires
Speaker 1: and the pyramid and stuff like that. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: just for this episode specifically, I'm going to be you know,
Speaker 1: thinking like it is real because it looks like a
Speaker 1: real image, right, I mean, you.
Speaker 2: Could see these in an observatory on a clear night,
Speaker 2: if they have their telescope geared at the moon, you
Speaker 2: can check these things out. Like, it doesn't have to
Speaker 2: be NASA images, so you can see these structures on
Speaker 2: the moon. Oh okay, well I guess they're real then,
Speaker 2: but I mean it depends on perspective, right, That's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, well, what's causing that shadow? Oh well,
Speaker 2: it's probably this, that or the third, but no one
Speaker 2: is giving answers. I'm just saying the first time that
Speaker 2: we acknowledge it were there was from the observer too
Speaker 2: that was taking pictures of the Moon to try to
Speaker 2: find the best landing site if they actually did in
Speaker 2: fact land on the Moon. But this one here, this mountain, Now,
Speaker 2: what in the hell there's nothing around that, Like, there's
Speaker 2: no crater impact. This isn't you know, meteor that got
Speaker 2: stuck there, and that's just jutting out. This is independent.
Speaker 2: Was it built? Was it formed somehow naturally? Let's talk
Speaker 2: about it here. On the evening of September twenty third,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, I was training my three inch tel
Speaker 2: aview refractor on the Moon to catch sunrise over Lambert
Speaker 2: Crater when a brilliant pyramid of light just to the
Speaker 2: east of the crater grabbed my attention instead. This isolated
Speaker 2: peak was the brightest feature to emerge from the lunar
Speaker 2: twilight that night. Again, this is a guy that took
Speaker 2: this himself with a refractor, like he did this at
Speaker 2: his home at high power. The mountains sharply cut facets
Speaker 2: reflected the rising Sun's rays in the most alluring manner.
Speaker 2: I immediately had to know the mountain's name, only to
Speaker 2: discover it has none. But it did once I'll explain.
Speaker 2: The next morning, I checked NASA's online Scientific visualization studio
Speaker 2: Moon Phase and Libration, which displays the Moon on any
Speaker 2: chosen date with countless labels, as well as the Lunar
Speaker 2: Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera act REACT quick Map, but neither side
Speaker 2: identified this peak, nor was the mountain listed in the
Speaker 2: International Astronomical Unions. That Iaus gazetter of planetary nomenclature for
Speaker 2: the Moon, doubtful that such a bright feature went unnamed.
Speaker 2: I went back in time to nineteen thirteen, to the
Speaker 2: nineteen thirteen Collated List of Lunar Formations sanctioned by the
Speaker 2: International Association of Academies. This work was the first attempt
Speaker 2: to remedy the unsatisfactory state of lunar nomenclature of the
Speaker 2: day at that time the Moon whoa, whoa. I hate
Speaker 2: when they have random ads pop up that just shift
Speaker 2: everything and then shift it back. That's the fucking worst.
Speaker 2: At the time, the Moon's most prominent features were known
Speaker 2: by at least three different names, depending on the source.
Speaker 2: I was not disappointed. The collated list provides us with
Speaker 2: the first official mention of our target mountain's name, Lambert Gamma.
Speaker 2: Seeing as how it's right there by the Lambert Crater,
Speaker 2: that makes sense. But look at this. This is a topographical
Speaker 2: I don't want to say map, but basically this is
Speaker 2: like the elevation chart for this mountain on the Moon.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, so it's pretty tall. Then I just checked
Speaker 1: out that Lambert crater that you were mentioned earlier. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I was trying to get the understanding of the size
Speaker 1: of the crater to be able to determine the size
Speaker 1: of the mountain or pyramid thing, right, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: the crater it's fifty seven kilometers, which converts to thirty
Speaker 1: five miles wide in circumference. A big yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: big old bitch, big old bitch.
Speaker 2: And I don't even know if they have the meat
Speaker 2: itself that caused that crater, or if it bounced to
Speaker 2: just like hit it like a like a pin ball, pinball,
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. What I'm saying it was, you know, it
Speaker 2: was arcade games like pong, where it's like no, not pong.
Speaker 2: It's a pinball, like a pinball ball. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it just hit the Moon like a pinball and
Speaker 2: just continued on to another place or what. But the
Speaker 2: Lambert Crater, I don't think it's the largest crater on
Speaker 2: the Moon, but it's a big old bitch by all means. Now.
Speaker 2: The German astronomer Johann Heinrich made year Madler okay assigned
Speaker 2: that name to the mountain, and his and Wilhelm Beer's
Speaker 2: mapa Sonelographica eighteen thirty six, so they already knew that
Speaker 2: mountain was there in eighteen thirty six, which was then
Speaker 2: the universally accepted standard on selenography the Moon geography for anybody,
Speaker 2: geography would be of Earth. Selenography would be of the Moon.
Speaker 2: Madler's convention was to name the isolated lunar peaks with
Speaker 2: the name of a nearby crater followed by a Greek letter.
Speaker 2: In his eighteen seventy six book The Moon and the
Speaker 2: Condition and Configuration of its Surface, Edmund Nielssen gives a
Speaker 2: wonderful description of Lambert's gamma. That would be the Greek
Speaker 2: letter for gamma, so owing its owing to its curved form,
Speaker 2: the mountain Gamma appears like a crater. Occasionally, this peak
Speaker 2: glitters in the terminator in a very striking manner, on
Speaker 2: the terminator in a very striking manner. Okay, so they
Speaker 2: already acknowledged that this mountain existed. In eighteen thirty six,
Speaker 2: lambert Gamma's uppercase Gamma was changed to lowercase lambert y.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's a Greek name for that one
Speaker 2: as well, I don't know. In the nineteen thirty five
Speaker 2: named Lunar Formations, the first official lift list of the
Speaker 2: iaused nomenclature. When the IAU discontinued the use of Greek
Speaker 2: letters for elevated features in nineteen seventy three, lambert Y
Speaker 2: was renamed to Unset, in honor of Sea Greet Unset,
Speaker 2: a Danish born Norwegian novelist who won the nineteen twenty
Speaker 2: eight Nobel Peace Prize in Literature. Unfortunately, the Greek.
Speaker 1: Letter why is called upsilon?
Speaker 2: Oh? Is it epsilon or upsilon u up sil o
Speaker 2: n upsilon upsilon? All right? To anybody who didn't know this.
Speaker 2: Jonathan and I have never been a part of the
Speaker 2: collegiate Greek community. We don't be knowing the things.
Speaker 1: I went to college for three weeks and I never
Speaker 1: stayed in a dorm fair enough.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, when Lancet name was applied to her lunar mountain
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy three Lunar Topographical Orthopon Orthopho PHOTOMAP Jesus
Speaker 2: Christ Topographic ORTHOPHOTOMAP series, the first comprehensive and continuous mapping
Speaker 2: based on photographs from the Apollo fifteen, sixteen and seventeen,
Speaker 2: her name was misspelled to undest. Rather than fixing the mistake,
Speaker 2: the ia you strip the mountain of its name, leaving
Speaker 2: it in a nomenclature limbo. Most references today lean toward
Speaker 2: unofficially renaming the mountain Lambert Epsilon see Astronomy Magazine Guide
Speaker 2: to the Moon PDF here. But why take away and
Speaker 2: honor bestowed upon a great woman just because of a typo? Well,
Speaker 2: it is what it is on that one. I suppose
Speaker 2: my observation of mond Onset occurred at lunar colognitude eighteen
Speaker 2: point three, okay, which must have been one of the
Speaker 2: occasions nieces and mentioned when the mountain appears as a
Speaker 2: striking sight near the terminator. But Mon's onset is so
Speaker 2: unusual at times that observers have mistaken it for a
Speaker 2: lunar transient phenomenon. So it's a site worth pursuing and remembering.
Speaker 2: So we already have another one of these things where
Speaker 2: it's like, I didn't even know the Moon had mountains, dude,
Speaker 2: I not since the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I really don't know a whole hell
Speaker 1: of a lot about the Moon. It's wild, you know,
Speaker 1: but I do think that it's interesting. You know, we've
Speaker 1: had Anthony the Reptilian channeler a long time ago, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be coming back on soon because he just
Speaker 1: got back into interviewing and he sent us a couple
Speaker 1: of t shirts and stuff like that, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: But he believes that there is an evil race on
Speaker 1: the Moon, that it could be maybe the evil Reptilians
Speaker 1: or somewhere along those lines. I don't know, because he's
Speaker 1: somebody that believes that, you know, the Reptilians aren't necessarily evil,
Speaker 1: they're just more strict and that they look at life
Speaker 1: in a dominant kind of manner, which you know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's the case. But but yeah, as far as the moon,
Speaker 1: and I just can't get past the fact of it
Speaker 1: ringing like a bell whenever they got there. You know,
Speaker 1: let's just say that it is hollowed out for some
Speaker 1: for some kind of reason. Right, maybe it happened naturally. Maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, whenever the first beings that went to the
Speaker 1: Moon they found that, oh it's actually a protective shell.
Speaker 1: And really what's going on here is that there's some
Speaker 1: kind of metal. And yeah, the surface is a little dusty,
Speaker 1: it's a little musty, it's a little crusty, but whenever
Speaker 1: you go on the inside, you know, maybe it's protective.
Speaker 1: And also like could the Moon also be some kind
Speaker 1: of satellite? You know, some people think that the Moon
Speaker 1: was artificially placed there. I mean, depending on what alien
Speaker 1: mythology you like to look into. Some people like to
Speaker 1: think that it was like, you know, that it was
Speaker 1: put there for some kind of reason. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to make of it.
Speaker 2: I hear that I've heard the reports that it wrung
Speaker 2: when they landed on it. I don't believe that personally,
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that just because I believe that
Speaker 2: everything NaSTA has ever told us is real by any means,
Speaker 2: But the surface of it being as dusty as it is.
Speaker 2: If that was the case, wouldn't that just kind of
Speaker 2: soften it. It's not like they hit it like a
Speaker 2: sledgehammer very gently landed on it. If they gently landed
Speaker 2: on a dusty surface, how would they have heard a ring?
Speaker 1: That's actually not a conspiracy. That's that's something that's well
Speaker 1: known that even like popular mechanics and shit like that
Speaker 1: was diving into.
Speaker 2: Did they hit it with a rock or some shit?
Speaker 1: I guess just whatever of them landing on it.
Speaker 2: Didn't have I thought maybe that would be like the
Speaker 2: the craft itself, like the metal within it hitting and ringing,
Speaker 2: not the moon itself. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean they you know, I don't know which astronauts
Speaker 1: said that, but the you know, the idea of it
Speaker 1: ringing like a like a bell is so interesting, like
Speaker 1: just in the way that a bell would reverberate like that.
Speaker 1: That's not to automatically say that it's hollow, but when
Speaker 1: you look at a bell, they're pretty damn hollow, and
Speaker 1: that that's why they ring and stuff.
Speaker 2: So very true. All right, So I got another article
Speaker 2: pulled up here, and this one's a bit of a
Speaker 2: longer read Mystery Mysterious Monuments on the Moon. This is
Speaker 2: from a magazine from August of nineteen seventy, and it
Speaker 2: does have these shapes right here, and it apparently has
Speaker 2: them listed out perfectly. This is the actual scan done
Speaker 2: more to an artistic rendition the top one. Of course,
Speaker 2: that's like a painting, So I don't believe that that's
Speaker 2: like actually what they look like by any means. But
Speaker 2: this is the shape that it takes on the surface
Speaker 2: of the moon. This is the shadows that were cast
Speaker 2: that we saw in that picture. Very triangular, very much so,
Speaker 2: very much done with an intent and purpose, not random
Speaker 2: space junk that just happens to be sticking out of
Speaker 2: the surface.
Speaker 1: Man, Could this be ancient freemasonry?
Speaker 2: Is this where free masonry gets some of their beliefs from?
Speaker 2: As far as these things go.
Speaker 1: I mean, it almost looks like a square and compass
Speaker 1: in a way, a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, a little bit, all right. So this is
Speaker 2: gonna be a bit of a longer read, And the
Speaker 2: text is very small, so my apologies if.
Speaker 1: I read it for you now my screen is a
Speaker 1: little bigger than yours, all right, all right, So the
Speaker 1: many phenomena observed on the lunar surface appear to have
Speaker 1: been devised by intelligent beings. Now, US and Russian moon
Speaker 1: probes have photographed two such constructions at close range. This
Speaker 1: is a report from ar Goozi's Science editor. It says
Speaker 1: four years ago Russia's Luna nine in America's Orbiter iiO
Speaker 1: both photograph groups of solid structures at two widely separated
Speaker 1: locations on the lunar surface. These two groups of objects
Speaker 1: are arranged in definite geometric patterns and appear to have
Speaker 1: been placed there by intelligent beings. Since American space officials
Speaker 1: have chosen not to publicize these findings, all readers are
Speaker 1: probably not aware of their existence. The Luna nine photographs,
Speaker 1: which is the Russian one, takes on or taken on
Speaker 1: February fourth of nineteen sixty six, after the crash had
Speaker 1: landed in the Ocean of Storms, revealed two straight lines
Speaker 1: of equedescent stones that look like the markers along an
Speaker 1: airport runway. These circular stones are all identical and our
Speaker 1: position at an angle that produces a strong reflection from
Speaker 1: the Sun, which would render them visible to descending aircraft.
Speaker 1: Upon examining the photographs, Russian scientist doctor s Ivanov, the
Speaker 1: winner of the Laureate of the State Prize equivalent to
Speaker 1: a Nobel Laureate and inventor of stereo movies in the USSR,
Speaker 1: noted that a chance displacement of Luna nine on its
Speaker 1: horizontal axis had caused the second and third shots of
Speaker 1: the stones to be taken at a slightly different angle.
Speaker 1: This double set of photographs allowed him to produce a
Speaker 1: three dimensional stereoscope stereoscopic view of the lunar runway. Why
Speaker 1: the Lunar nine station changed its position between its second
Speaker 1: and third transmissions is not known. The official Russian explanation
Speaker 1: was in quotes deformation of the lunar surface. The ground
Speaker 1: may have settled at a spot where the station landed,
Speaker 1: or perhaps a small stone caused the initial instability. For
Speaker 1: whatever reason, it was good luck for the Russian observers
Speaker 1: with the stereoscopic effect, reported doctor Ivanov and engineer doctor A. Bruenko.
Speaker 1: Their quote is we can affirm that the distance between
Speaker 1: the stones one, three, two and four is equal. The
Speaker 1: stones are identical in measurement. There does not seem to
Speaker 1: be any height or elevation nearby from which the stones
Speaker 1: could have been rolled and scattered into this geometric form.
Speaker 1: The objects as seen in three D seem to be
Speaker 1: arranged according to definite geometric laws.
Speaker 2: Okay, so understand that we are getting two reports of
Speaker 2: the exact same phenomenon from at the time enemies. United
Speaker 2: States is acknowledging that these things are there because their
Speaker 2: craft observed it. Russia is acknowledging that that is there
Speaker 2: because they air craft observed it as well. And we
Speaker 2: have photos from both of these sources operating the location,
Speaker 2: the distance between them, the height of them. That's the
Speaker 2: part that got me a little tripped up here. It's
Speaker 2: not like Russia was just like, oh look what Russia found,
Speaker 2: because we're so much better than America. We found something
Speaker 2: they couldn't find, or vice versa. This is something that
Speaker 2: two people that were enemies both acknowledged are absolutely on
Speaker 2: the moon. That's also pretty sketch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think about the psychology of the
Speaker 1: whole thing, because what if one space agency actually went
Speaker 1: to the Moon the other one couldn't quite make it,
Speaker 1: but they just so happened to stumble across the same
Speaker 1: thing coincidentally, right, Like, could that be America's way of
Speaker 1: testing to see if you know Russia was actually able
Speaker 1: to go to the moon, or or vice versa. You know,
Speaker 1: Russia's way of seeing the if the Americans were able
Speaker 1: to go to the moon. But let's just say that
Speaker 1: they both did go to the moon. They both saw
Speaker 1: these structures. I mean, the Russians are definitely intrigued.
Speaker 2: And so were the Americans apparently, but then neither of them, well,
Speaker 2: I mean, allegedly Russia has never been to the moon
Speaker 2: with human life. Apparently America is the only country that
Speaker 2: can boast such a claim, if we are to believe
Speaker 2: the official narratives. But either way it goes, you would
Speaker 2: think that that would be a flex right, Like America
Speaker 2: would say, look, we found Oh, Russia, you didn't see that, huh,
Speaker 2: probably because your commie cameras are too shitty to see it,
Speaker 2: or vice versa. Russia will be like, oh, yeah, your
Speaker 2: capitalist cameras couldn't see what we see. See, We're clearly
Speaker 2: our space program is so much more advanced than you,
Speaker 2: which that was their thing. They were flexing on each
Speaker 2: other at every conceivable turn. The fact that they both
Speaker 2: cooberated that these things were there, I don't know, it
Speaker 2: kind of leads credence to the fact that they are there.
Speaker 2: I mean, in a true them, really have an explanation,
Speaker 2: Like a.
Speaker 1: True scientist doesn't give a shit about politics. Right, So
Speaker 1: if you're having a scientific not necessarily depends on who
Speaker 1: they're being paid by. But if if this is just
Speaker 1: on their own observing these photos, you know, not necessarily
Speaker 1: being paid to say one thing or another. Like that's
Speaker 1: the point of science is, you know, getting to the
Speaker 1: actual truth of it and not so much worrying about
Speaker 1: warring nations and shit like that. Like I can imagine
Speaker 1: that that exists, right, And I'm not saying all of them,
Speaker 1: but you would have to believe that some scientists are
Speaker 1: of that mind.
Speaker 2: You want to believe this, and I do too, that
Speaker 2: there is a scientist out there or a team of
Speaker 2: scientists that are out there for true scientific innovation, regardless
Speaker 2: of whatever their version of Big Daddy government told them
Speaker 2: they need to find, right, I want to believe that
Speaker 2: this is the case, and maybe it is, but it's
Speaker 2: small scale. At this point, Cold War was going on,
Speaker 2: the space race was on. They saw space as a
Speaker 2: Cold War fighting front, you know what I mean, So
Speaker 2: it would have been even more of a sense of
Speaker 2: them to one up each other. Both of them saw it, though,
Speaker 2: and I mean this photo that we're looking at right here.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind this image is drawn up by the
Speaker 2: Russian scientists who got their own pictures from it. This
Speaker 2: is the image taken from the orbiter H two from
Speaker 2: the United States States.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it says. The above photo was shot by
Speaker 1: orbiter H two from twenty three miles above the lunar
Speaker 1: surface and shows shadows cast by eight spires. According to NASA,
Speaker 1: the area photographed is about seven hundred and forty by
Speaker 1: five hundred and forty feet at lunar coordinates fifteen degrees
Speaker 1: thirty east and forty degrees thirty north or thirty degrees north.
Speaker 1: The sun was about was eleven degrees above lunar horizon.
Speaker 1: The general plan of the arrangement of these objects is
Speaker 1: shown in the diagram at the top of the page.
Speaker 1: Russian scientists who examined the geometric relationships among the objects
Speaker 1: found that numbers three, four, and five are in exactly
Speaker 1: the same arrangement as the pyramids of Giza. Russian estimates
Speaker 1: placed the largest spire, number seven, as standing as high
Speaker 1: as fifth as as high as a fifteen story building.
Speaker 2: Pretty tall, so these three mirror the pyramid at Giza.
Speaker 2: Then there's this big bitch just off to the side
Speaker 2: being talle as fuck for no apparent reason.
Speaker 1: Well it says. The second set of photographs were taken
Speaker 1: by America's Orbiter two on November twentieth, the nineteen sixty six,
Speaker 1: twenty nine miles above the lunar surface over the Sea
Speaker 1: of Tranquility. The photographs of an area some two thousand
Speaker 1: miles from the runway reported by the Russians on the
Speaker 1: Ocean of Storms, show what appeared to be the shadows
Speaker 1: of eight pointed spires shaped like Cleopatra's needle, which is
Speaker 1: the ancient Egyptian obelist now in Central Park in New
Speaker 1: York and the Washington Monument. Since Orbiter two's cameras were
Speaker 1: pointed straight down at these spires, only their shadows are visible,
Speaker 1: but NASA stated that the sun was eleven degrees above
Speaker 1: the horizon, and from this American space scientists estimated that
Speaker 1: the largest protuberance is approximately fifty feet wide at the
Speaker 1: base ends and from forty to seventy forty to seventy
Speaker 1: five feet high. However, the Russian scientists who examined the
Speaker 1: orbiter two photos disagreed with these American estimates and said
Speaker 1: that the smallest of these eight apparent obelists was similar
Speaker 1: to an extremely large fir tree, while the largest was,
Speaker 1: by their estimation, three times the height claimed by the Americans,
Speaker 1: or as tall as a fifteen story building. So that's
Speaker 1: pretty damn tall.
Speaker 2: They have conflicting reports as far as the size and
Speaker 2: the height of these objects, but nobody's denying that the
Speaker 2: objects are there. That's my point. You see what I'm saying. Yes,
Speaker 2: there's three sides to every story, right, but of the
Speaker 2: story that's being proposed here, we got this side over
Speaker 2: here talking that shit. We got this side over here
Speaker 2: talking that noise. But if you take out the details
Speaker 2: that they are all agreeing upon, at least that's the
Speaker 2: thing that we can acknowledge to be somewhat true. And
Speaker 2: they're all acknowledging that obelisks are on the moon. Bro what.
Speaker 1: In addition, Soviet space engineer Alexander Abramov has come up
Speaker 1: with rather artling geometrical analysis of the arrangement of these objects.
Speaker 1: By calculating the angles at which they appear to be set,
Speaker 1: he asserts that they constitute an Egyptian triangle on the moon,
Speaker 1: a precise geometric configuration known in ancient in Ancient Egypt
Speaker 1: as an abaca abaka. The distribution of these lunar objects
Speaker 1: is similar to the plan of the Egyptian pyramids constructed
Speaker 1: by Pharaoh's chops Chefren and Mankura at Giza near Cairo.
Speaker 1: The centers of the spires in this lunar abaca are
Speaker 1: arranged in precisely the same way as the apises of
Speaker 1: the Three Great Pyramids. What is America's position regarding the
Speaker 1: investigation of the mysterious Moon objects? A high NASA authority,
Speaker 1: when questioned on what has been done by us in
Speaker 1: the four years since the objects were photographed, replied, yes,
Speaker 1: we know of these photographs. They were very clear, but
Speaker 1: there has been no speculation on them, and they have
Speaker 1: been filed for now. We fail to appreciate such an
Speaker 1: attitude towards something of the first interest to our whole
Speaker 1: Moon probing endeavor, especially one which has been so openly
Speaker 1: investigated by our rivals in this effort. However, in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight, NASA released a very remarkable publication called the
Speaker 1: Chronicle or Chronological Catalog of reported lunar events. This list
Speaker 1: includes lights both stationary and moving, appearing on the Moon
Speaker 1: and then suddenly disappearing, some perfectly circular craters that look
Speaker 1: more like domes and which are in some cases arranged
Speaker 1: in perfect alignment, and such phenomena as glowing mists and
Speaker 1: sudden patches of gem colored outpourings. Whoa, yeah, dude, interesting so.
Speaker 1: John O'Neill, former science editor of the late New York
Speaker 1: Herald Tribune, said that he observed a gigantic bridge like
Speaker 1: structure in the Sea of Crisis on the Moon under
Speaker 1: which the sun shone at under which the sun shone
Speaker 1: when at a low angle. This was later confirmed by
Speaker 1: other astronomers. Recent literature has been crammed with descriptions of
Speaker 1: wall like structures that form perfect squares or ROMs, or
Speaker 1: of rills that look like water, eroded river beds arid
Speaker 1: of lines that look like roads, and even a grid
Speaker 1: of streets on the lunar surface. What the fuck, yeah, man, So,
Speaker 1: of course, many such apparent. Many such apparently man made
Speaker 1: structures seen on Earth from on high later proved to
Speaker 1: be simply natural formations. At the southern edge of the
Speaker 1: Sahara Desert in Northern Nigeria is one such natural formation,
Speaker 1: which when seen from above, appears to be an enormous
Speaker 1: layout of structured walls.
Speaker 2: And I could understand that, Okay, certain things like Okay,
Speaker 2: I've heard people say anomalies don't happen in nature. They
Speaker 2: do all the time. They absolutely there's nature has wild
Speaker 2: random stuff that appears all the time. And I could
Speaker 2: even understand that in a very skeptic but still I
Speaker 2: could at least acknowledge it in that light. Okay, fine,
Speaker 2: but dude to say that it's this many obelisks and
Speaker 2: these structures, look at this, look at these printouts that
Speaker 2: they have, look at these images that they have. And
Speaker 2: NASA's official report was, yeah, we know about it. You know,
Speaker 2: they've been filed. And especially if the Russians are talking
Speaker 2: about it, you know, we can't really believe everything they say.
Speaker 2: Even though your boy just said that he knows about them,
Speaker 2: like he he talked out of both sides of his
Speaker 2: mouth and then just closed the book on it, and
Speaker 2: that was in sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Well you would you know, if that's what you're trying
Speaker 1: to cover up. I mean, it could be something that Look,
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of a lot of what
Speaker 1: we cover from the media and from certain government entity
Speaker 1: we like to look at, Oh, well, they're just lying
Speaker 1: to us, but that's not necessarily the case. How that
Speaker 1: all started about lying to us in the news was
Speaker 1: to try and throw other you know, uh, other nations
Speaker 1: off the scent. So like that was because they knew that,
Speaker 1: you know, you would have Russia and Germany tuning into
Speaker 1: our radio stations and our TV stations and shit like that,
Speaker 1: and obviously all you would need is some kind of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, somebody that would speak English that would
Speaker 1: be able to relay that message back and be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening in Chicago, this is what's happening
Speaker 1: at the White House, this is what's happening in Congress.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, I I understand partially why they
Speaker 1: would lie, But as far as the moon, especially if
Speaker 1: there was some kind of American Russian race to the moon,
Speaker 1: you know, and and they're both corroborating on the same
Speaker 1: level of information, it makes me wonder, I mean, did
Speaker 1: the Americans find something that they were hoping that the
Speaker 1: Russians wouldn't found. And you know, like at this point,
Speaker 1: whenever you're saying, oh, we have the pictures and it's
Speaker 1: been filed. It's like, okay, so it's either a whole
Speaker 1: lot of something that you don't want other people getting
Speaker 1: their eyes onto their hands on, or you thought that
Speaker 1: it wasn't that big of a deal to even really
Speaker 1: divulge into, which if you have it documented, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine that it's the latter.
Speaker 2: See maybe yes, maybe no so And I can't speak
Speaker 2: on behalf of all government programs, but I do know that,
Speaker 2: for instance, when America comes out with a new jet
Speaker 2: propulsion system or some type of new military tech or
Speaker 2: something like that, they'll throw a bunch of funding at it.
Speaker 2: They'll even talk about, oh, this new thing that we
Speaker 2: got going on, cool, cool, cool, if it's something that's
Speaker 2: really really cool or really good, or something that we
Speaker 2: just don't want anyone else knowing about for a good
Speaker 2: long while. Once they do their first test flight or
Speaker 2: prototype or whatever, they'll say, Yep, it worked, and we
Speaker 2: are no longer talking about it, and it will go
Speaker 2: into the shadow realm for the next forty years until
Speaker 2: some other country back engineers it or something like that
Speaker 2: and they're like, look at our new thing we just
Speaker 2: made and it's like, oh, oh yeah, the dust that
Speaker 2: thing off from back on the back of the shelf.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, bring that up, let's talk about it. And
Speaker 2: it's like the exact same thing that we were fucking
Speaker 2: with forty years ago. The oil industry has done something similar, Right,
Speaker 2: So there'll be a new well they just didn't explora,
Speaker 2: Tory dig somewhere and they'll find this thing and it's
Speaker 2: a whole thing, and they're gonna put all this money
Speaker 2: and all this energy into it. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: They get there, they drill, they do their exploration, and
Speaker 2: they'll say, Yo, we're done talking about this, cap it
Speaker 2: off and move on. This only happens in two cases.
Speaker 2: One they tried to put a lot more money into
Speaker 2: it and found out the well had nothing there and
Speaker 2: like it wasn't worth all the hype they made in
Speaker 2: they're embarrassed or there is way more things there than
Speaker 2: what they originally thought, and they don't want to talk
Speaker 2: about it anymore because that's more of a strategic thing
Speaker 2: that they're gonna come back and drill into later, you
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. So it could be both happening
Speaker 2: at the same time.
Speaker 1: If there's an abundance of oil to pull from. Now,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be wondering why their gas and electric bills
Speaker 1: are so high if there's so much of it, you know,
Speaker 1: So you want to keep those prices high. You want
Speaker 1: to You want the Americans in pretty much the whole
Speaker 1: world who's using some kind of oil or gasoline, you
Speaker 1: want them to think that it's a limited supply. It's
Speaker 1: a finite supply. But if you're finding literally like one
Speaker 1: hundred years worth of oil in this new spot, you're
Speaker 1: not going to go around parading that like if you
Speaker 1: want to maintain the higher prices.
Speaker 2: Nah. See, that's what we would call corporate secret. We
Speaker 2: are capping it off. We are gonna move on. Everybody's
Speaker 2: gonna not talk about this business trip that we took
Speaker 2: out here, and we're on to the next project. Well,
Speaker 2: hold on, boss man, what about Hey, if you want
Speaker 2: to keep your job, shut the fuck up about that.
Speaker 2: And it's it's that kind of shit, right, So same
Speaker 2: thing with the moon. Is it possible that they were like, hey,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, we found this and you're done talking
Speaker 2: about that now, okay, And it's like, wait, hold on,
Speaker 2: is there that means it's real, there's this going on,
Speaker 2: and the photos had been filed, and question like it
Speaker 2: could it be that they were trying to cover their
Speaker 2: ass or is it that they're trying to cover this information?
Speaker 2: So nobody asks any more questions because.
Speaker 10: They truly believed that the human race wasn't ready for
Speaker 10: that conversation yet.
Speaker 1: Look, if it's a natural formation, there's no reason to
Speaker 1: hide it, right, And if.
Speaker 2: It was a natural formation, it wouldn't be that equally
Speaker 2: put aside from each other.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So they probably found that, oh,
Speaker 1: something was here that arranged these things in this manner
Speaker 1: for some kind of reason. Don't know who, don't know why,
Speaker 1: don't know how, but this is not naturally happening, and
Speaker 1: we need to, you know, further devulge into it. But also,
Speaker 1: like you know, there was that one NASA scientist all
Speaker 1: the flat Earth. There's love to quote the guy that
Speaker 1: came out and said, well, we would go to the
Speaker 1: Moon in a nanosecond, but we destroyed that technology. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's like, did you or are you just going
Speaker 1: on like secret missions that nobody knows about?
Speaker 2: Right? Exactly how many of these rockets have been shipped
Speaker 2: up to space in the last decades.
Speaker 1: Rockets that are going up and shit right.
Speaker 2: Right right, how many of them actually might potentially, hypothetically
Speaker 2: conspiratorially even have people in that rocket that are making
Speaker 2: their way to the Moon and then they are coming
Speaker 2: back later on.
Speaker 10: How many satellites crash to Earth and they're like, oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 10: you know, they get knocked out of orbit sometimes and
Speaker 10: they land in the sea and we sent a recovery team.
Speaker 2: You know, how many of them have people in it?
Speaker 2: How many secret operations have been going on for decades
Speaker 2: that we have not heard anything about because we don't
Speaker 2: have the clearance to talk about it. What's to say
Speaker 2: one way or another?
Speaker 1: I mean, you whenever you have that much power and
Speaker 1: you have that much control and.
Speaker 2: You are making and resources that go into it, how
Speaker 2: much money goes to NASA that's going to what to
Speaker 2: fucking what?
Speaker 1: Dude's millions of dollars of tax dollars a day a
Speaker 1: day that are going to NASA And we haven't been
Speaker 1: to the moon and how long at.
Speaker 2: Least that's what they're telling us.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, right, So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't believe nothing that comes out of there, but
Speaker 1: a lot of that money's going there, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it is very secretive, and we don't hear a
Speaker 1: lot about what comes from NASA and shit like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like.
Speaker 2: That SpaceX is privatizing that entire thing. Elon's basically showing, look,
Speaker 2: I can do what NASA is doing better and faster
Speaker 2: and for less money. And it's like, dude, that's probably
Speaker 2: the biggest flex I've ever seen in my life. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so it says, and from an orbiting spacecraft,
Speaker 1: the Barringer Crater in Arizona looks like an artificial construction. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is talking about natural formations on Earth or whatever.
Speaker 1: It says. Suppose for a moment that the Earth was
Speaker 1: probe from the Moon by two manned landings. Let's say,
Speaker 1: let us say in Utah and East Africa. How much
Speaker 1: would we learn on the surface of the rest of
Speaker 1: the planet. Our oceans, lakes, mountains, ranges, and our mountain
Speaker 1: ranges and rivers might well be spotted in photographed from
Speaker 1: on high on approach, But just how many smaller things
Speaker 1: like pyramids and obelists built by thinking creatures with intelligent
Speaker 1: design in mind, might go unrecognized, or still worse, might
Speaker 1: even be seen and filed away simply because they did
Speaker 1: not accord with what was accepted by what was accepted
Speaker 1: as possible by the experts at the home base. So
Speaker 1: it says, though very little attention has been given to
Speaker 1: the mysterious moon objects in this country, both the orbit
Speaker 1: or two Obelist photographs and the Luna nine runway pictures
Speaker 1: were widely published in the Soviet Union. For Russian scientists
Speaker 1: have always been extremely interested in the pursuit of any
Speaker 1: evidence of extraterrestrial life. Moreover, the question of Russian scientists
Speaker 1: are now asking about these lunar objects is whether intelligent
Speaker 1: beings could have visited our moon long ago and erected
Speaker 1: thereupon permanent monuments and landing fields. The question should not
Speaker 1: come as any great sprise to us, because the Russians
Speaker 1: have long and consistently gone after archaeological and historical evidence
Speaker 1: of superior life forms having visited the planet or this planet.
Speaker 1: The material amassed by them is in support of such
Speaker 1: an idea is now somewhat overwhelming. For instance, they claim
Speaker 1: that many biblical stories, such as the apparent destruction of
Speaker 1: Sodom and Gomora by an atomic bomb. Are historical accounts
Speaker 1: of such visitations. They have reported finding metallic discs like
Speaker 1: modern record like modern recording platters in Asiatic caves, and
Speaker 1: they have published reproductions of early Christian wall paintings from
Speaker 1: old monasteries in Yugoslavia that appear to show angels in spaceships.
Speaker 2: Real quick, keep in mind, this article is written in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy, so when they said modern recording platters, they're
Speaker 2: talking about discs, they're talking about like vinyls, so like
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy that was the modern But yes, so okay,
Speaker 2: let's continue here.
Speaker 1: It says there are quite a number of strange material
Speaker 1: things that strongly suggest some extraterrestrial origin or influence. The
Speaker 1: Egyptian Pyramids continue to puzzle scholars who are now studying
Speaker 1: their sealed rooms with the most advanced and sensitive electromagnetic devices.
Speaker 1: One scientist, doctor go ahead, go ahead, sure, which a
Speaker 1: bad sense go ahead, stated officially to the London Times
Speaker 1: that either the geometry of the pyramids is in substantial
Speaker 1: error which would affect our readings, or there is a
Speaker 1: mystery which is beyond explanation. There is some force that
Speaker 1: defies the laws of science at work in the pyramids.
Speaker 1: The possibility of extraterrestrial influence on the Moon was put
Speaker 1: forth at a meeting of the American Rocketry Society by
Speaker 1: doctor Carl Sagan, who said rather simply, that intelligent beings
Speaker 1: from elsewhere in the universe may have or have had
Speaker 1: bases on the averted side of our moon. Why, we
Speaker 1: may well ask, did man ever start making obelists? Anyway?
Speaker 1: It is a very tough job and seemingly purposeless. Is
Speaker 1: the origin of the obelisk on this Earth and those
Speaker 1: on the Moon. The same could both be ancient markers
Speaker 1: originally erected by alien space travelers for guidance of later arrivals.
Speaker 2: It's very possible you could suggest that post. So this
Speaker 2: is the image right now, It says the detailed analysis
Speaker 2: of obelisks geometry is presented in this issue of the
Speaker 2: Russian publication Technology for Youth. Opposite page contains an artist
Speaker 2: rendition rendering commission by our Goosi. So this is the yes. Again,
Speaker 2: it's an artist rendition of what the obelists are. I
Speaker 2: mean that's supposed to be the Earth, okay, I mean
Speaker 2: you see the swirls on end. Shit, Okay, but to
Speaker 2: take this for what it is, this is the distance
Speaker 2: and arrangement and height and all of the things of
Speaker 2: these obelisks on the surface of the Moon. Bro there's
Speaker 2: zero zero percent chance that that is some sort of
Speaker 2: naturally forming occurrence.
Speaker 1: It almost seems similar obviously not the the obelisk, you know,
Speaker 1: going up like that, but just almost geometric in a way,
Speaker 1: like like crop circles. You know. I wonder if this
Speaker 1: is some kind of alien language that they eventually thought
Speaker 1: that humans would eventually visit the Moon, and what were
Speaker 1: they trying to say all these thousands of years ago
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: I also liked the idea of them being radio antennas, right,
Speaker 2: And I mean they've there's been multiple experts that have hypothized, hypotheticalized,
Speaker 2: hypothesized thank you sir. Words are hard. They've hypoth hypothesized,
Speaker 2: hypothesized thank you, that the obelisks on Earth were used
Speaker 2: as a form of satellite to talk to other obelisks,
Speaker 2: or a radio antenna right to pick up on the
Speaker 2: transmission being sent to and from and all these things.
Speaker 2: That's why we have so many of them across the Earth. Yes,
Speaker 2: Egypt are some of the most famous ones, but we
Speaker 2: have others and not just modern ones, like the Washington
Speaker 2: Monument for instance. Yes, we know that that was built
Speaker 2: during the American history. Here, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: a third of the way up the stones changed color
Speaker 2: slightly because they started the construction before the Civil War
Speaker 2: and then they continued it after the Civil War and
Speaker 2: they had to get the stones from a different quarry,
Speaker 2: so that one aside the ones that were built in
Speaker 2: ancient times. Is it crazy to, you know, just throw
Speaker 2: it out that these were the radio antennas that they
Speaker 2: were trying to communicate with, not the other ones on Earth,
Speaker 2: especially because this is on the side of the Moon
Speaker 2: that always faces the Earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of. It is very interesting because and
Speaker 1: to make a crude observation here, you know, I like
Speaker 1: to think about, you know, the some of the technology
Speaker 1: that we use in our modern day, about how almost
Speaker 1: well literally everything has come from the earth. Like you
Speaker 1: think about it, like this microphone that we're speaking into,
Speaker 1: the computers that were staring into, the mixers, all the
Speaker 1: different wires, everything in your house. It was once a
Speaker 1: part of the earth. You know, maybe it came from
Speaker 1: from trees or the soil or the metals that are
Speaker 1: in the ground or the rocks or something like that.
Speaker 1: And so just looking at it crudely, this microphone was
Speaker 1: in the dirt at some point in time, right, right,
Speaker 1: And if.
Speaker 2: You're made from crude oil, the wires are made from
Speaker 2: the ore. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: And so if we're looking at these at these objects,
Speaker 1: these obelists that are maybe they're naturally occurring. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: not naturally occurring. I like to look at it as
Speaker 1: if they're probably not naturally occurring. If we look at
Speaker 1: them in that sense, would we be able to try
Speaker 1: and think like, all right, well, maybe the ancients they
Speaker 1: figured out a way to not necessarily have to mine
Speaker 1: for all these different minerals to make up these components
Speaker 1: for these technology, you know devices. Maybe they were able
Speaker 1: to really harness whatever was inside of the moon's crust
Speaker 1: or whatever and be able to use them for technology
Speaker 1: rather than having some kind of factory piece all these
Speaker 1: little pieces together, you know, like could it have been
Speaker 1: some kind of ancient antenna And how would they even
Speaker 1: know that, you know, and I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: how obviously this was not something that was formed. It
Speaker 1: seems like maybe these things, if they are unnaturally occurring
Speaker 1: would have been chiseled or constructed from something larger and
Speaker 1: then chiseled away, right.
Speaker 2: Right, And I mean that's the thing I as of
Speaker 2: this current moment, I don't believe these are man made.
Speaker 2: I will say they were formed, and they were chiseled away.
Speaker 2: They were created, right. But I mean, like you're saying
Speaker 2: the ancients here unless yes, I understand that humanity has
Speaker 2: suffered a couple of resets. Okay, So is it possible
Speaker 2: that one of our ancient ancestors had developed space travel,
Speaker 2: was able to go to the Moon to build these things?
Speaker 2: There is a greater than zero percent chance of that.
Speaker 1: I give him, Give like a caveman a cell phone,
Speaker 1: he's gonna look at it like it's a rock, which
Speaker 1: is the same way that we're looking at this, you know, right.
Speaker 2: But is it equally possible that life from outside of
Speaker 2: our planet built these as a way to communicate with
Speaker 2: life on our planet, maybe even some of their own
Speaker 2: that they sent here for other reasons and other means.
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, we don't even know what's going on
Speaker 1: with the pyramids, you know, And I understand now, I
Speaker 1: understand that it's racist to assume that it was aliens
Speaker 1: that build pyramids. I don't necessarily buy that. That's just
Speaker 1: what some people like to say. Well, clearly, you know,
Speaker 1: the the people over in Egypt, they were savages and
Speaker 1: they couldn't build something like this. But then you look
Speaker 1: over at all the other parts of the world that
Speaker 1: have pyramids, and nobody questions it. Nobody says, well, clearly
Speaker 1: this was alien. But it still leads to the question,
Speaker 1: why why are they all over the damn world? Is
Speaker 1: it from a people that were before people? You know, like,
Speaker 1: was there's some kind of advanced civilization that was able
Speaker 1: to flee all of these resets in human history, that
Speaker 1: were able that maybe they had some kind of technology
Speaker 1: that would keep them safe from the floods and safe
Speaker 1: from you know, all the crazy climate changes that are
Speaker 1: naturally occurring and not necessarily man made. Like, is it
Speaker 1: possible that, you know, you would have somebody a civilization
Speaker 1: build up to Let's just say that there was a
Speaker 1: civilization that was able to advance in technology, and then
Speaker 1: the majority of that civilization, probably ninety nine point nine
Speaker 1: percent of that human population was wiped off the face
Speaker 1: of the earth because they didn't necessarily have the technology
Speaker 1: to protect them. And let's say that civilization restarted and
Speaker 1: there was caveman. Again, let's just hypothetically say that, well,
Speaker 1: you would still have beings that are from the more
Speaker 1: ancient one that had all the same technology that now
Speaker 1: look like a right true. I mean, I'm not gonna try.
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here trying to say that the only
Speaker 1: kind of intelligent being would be a human. But hypothetically speaking,
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily impossible.
Speaker 2: But exactly the pyramids, I get right why they were
Speaker 2: able to withstand all of the cataclysms that the earth
Speaker 2: has formed, because that's probably the most structurally sound thing
Speaker 2: you can build, is a pyramid. Okay, so yeah, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be able to withstand earthquakes and tidal waves and
Speaker 2: mud floods and all that. It makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Fair obelisks not so much, but I can at least
Speaker 2: understand if it is in fact a giant one piece
Speaker 2: of stone that was carved and chiseled and all this. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's more structurally sound than a mud hut or a
Speaker 2: twins tower. For incense, not trying to go there, but
Speaker 2: I'm also just saying, like, Okay, certain things are built
Speaker 2: to crumble. Certain things are built to last eternity. Okay, fine,
Speaker 2: but the whole, like you said, the racist ideology behind that, right,
Speaker 2: Like when they got to Central America and they saw
Speaker 2: the Aztec pyramids, they were like, oh, this has to
Speaker 2: be Atlantis because there's no way that these savages could
Speaker 2: have built that thing. That's crazy. They're not white like that,
Speaker 2: that is preposterous.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe different in nature, there was probably a
Speaker 1: different kind of culture that did what you know, the
Speaker 1: more advanced possible beings or at least you know, common
Speaker 1: to that place, you know, advanced. Maybe they would say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: these people that are sacrificing to these gods, or these
Speaker 1: people that are that are eating other people, or that
Speaker 1: are walking around, you know, almost naked. You know, they're
Speaker 1: very poor. They don't really have any kind of infrastructure.
Speaker 1: There's not a tax system in place or something like that.
Speaker 1: So you'd call them savages. But do we necessarily understand
Speaker 1: the intelligence that goes beyond what we deem intelligent? You know,
Speaker 1: that's really the big question. You know, maybe on the surface,
Speaker 1: we're looking at them like they are some kind of peasant,
Speaker 1: but you would look at but if you maybe if
Speaker 1: you were able to spend a little bit of time
Speaker 1: with them, understand their modalities of how they you know,
Speaker 1: proceed in their culture and what they deem advanced. Maybe
Speaker 1: the Pyramids was their peak intelligence, you know. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, we can talk about pyramids and
Speaker 1: speculate all day, but uh no.
Speaker 2: So this article here is about as we're talking more
Speaker 2: about the Moon and structures and things like this. Uh
Speaker 2: this article is from LiveScience dot com and this is
Speaker 2: what I was talking about earlier. So apparently China has
Speaker 2: discovered all kinds of structures on the dark side of
Speaker 2: the Moon. Now is this uh naturally formed structures? Man made?
Speaker 2: Alien made? Let's talk more about it here. Scientists map
Speaker 2: one thousand feet of hidden structures deep below the dark
Speaker 2: side of the Moon. With data from China's Change for rover,
Speaker 2: scientists were able to visualize the upper one thousand feet
Speaker 2: of the moon surface for the first time. Their results
Speaker 2: reveal billions of years of previously hit lunar history since
Speaker 2: it first landed in twenty nineteen. China's Change four I'm
Speaker 2: probably mispronouncing that chung E four. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 2: Change four, I'm American, is what It is the first
Speaker 2: spacecraft to ever land on the far side of the Moon.
Speaker 2: Had been taking stunning panorams of impact craters and sampling
Speaker 2: minerals from the Moon's mantle. Now the spacecraft has enabled
Speaker 2: scientists to visualize the layer cake of structures that comprise
Speaker 2: the upper thousand feet or three hundred meters of the
Speaker 2: Moon's surface in finer detail than ever before. Their results,
Speaker 2: which were published in August seventh. As a matter of
Speaker 2: fact on the Journal of Geophysical Research, Planets, revealed billions
Speaker 2: of years of previously hidden lunar history. The rover that
Speaker 2: traveled a board changed four named U two two y
Speaker 2: two two. I feel like that's a bit, you know,
Speaker 2: redundant and put its China slash East Taiwan or West Taiwan,
Speaker 2: I should say. Is equip with technology called Lunar penetrating
Speaker 2: Radar or LPR. The device enables the rover to send
Speaker 2: radio signals deep into the moons surface, said leads study
Speaker 2: author Fang and an astrological researcher at the Planetary Science
Speaker 2: Institute in Tucson, Arizona. Then it listens to the echoes
Speaker 2: dancing back, Fang told Live Science. Scientists can use those
Speaker 2: echoes or radio waves that bounce off the underground structures
Speaker 2: to create a map of the lunar surface. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: scientists use Y two's two's LPR to map the upper
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty feet of the moon surface, but
Speaker 2: hadn't gone deeper until now. So, like I was saying earlier,
Speaker 2: you know, they'll see what's underneath the surface. They'll they'll
Speaker 2: hook up the trucks and they'll they'll send sound waves
Speaker 2: through the Earth, and depending on how they reverberate back,
Speaker 2: they'll be able to tell if there's something buried there
Speaker 2: or not. So apparently China developed this to do on
Speaker 2: the dark side of the Moon. Bro and now they've
Speaker 2: been finding all these new things. These new data suggests
Speaker 2: the top one hundred and thirty feet of the lunar
Speaker 2: surface are made up of multiple layers of dust, soil,
Speaker 2: and broken rocks fang set, which is in accordance with
Speaker 2: the official narra that we've been told up until this point.
Speaker 2: Right hidden within these materials was a crater formed when
Speaker 2: a large object slammed into the Moon. Thing and his
Speaker 2: colleagues hypothized, Yeah, hypothized, hypothesized, hypothesized, cheappirist. Why is that
Speaker 2: word so difficult for me today? God damn. His colleagues
Speaker 2: hypothesized that the rubble surrounding this formation was ejecta debris
Speaker 2: from the impact. Farther down, the scientists discovered five distinct
Speaker 2: layers of lunar lava that seeped across the landscape billions
Speaker 2: of years ago. Scientists think that our moon formed four
Speaker 2: point five to one billion years ago, not long after
Speaker 2: the Solar system itself, when a marsized object slammed into
Speaker 2: the Earth and broke off a chunk of our plant
Speaker 2: it The Moon then continued to be bombarded by objects
Speaker 2: from space for roughly two hundred million years. Some impacts
Speaker 2: cracked the Moon's surface, like the eartz. The Moon's mantle
Speaker 2: at the time contained pockets of molten material called magma,
Speaker 2: which seeped out through the newly formed cracks in a
Speaker 2: series of volcanic eruptions. Fang said, the new data from
Speaker 2: the change fors shows that process slowly down over time.
Speaker 2: Fang and his colleagues found that the layers of volcanic
Speaker 2: rock grew thinner the closer they were to the Moon's surface.
Speaker 2: This suggests that less lava flowed into later eruptions. Compared
Speaker 2: with the earlier ones, the Moon was slowly cooling down
Speaker 2: and running out of steam in its later volcanic stage,
Speaker 2: Fang said, its energy became weak over time. Again, I
Speaker 2: didn't know the Moon had volcanic activity. This is the
Speaker 2: new findings that they were finding, and the samples of
Speaker 2: the materials tells them that it's magma. Who knew that
Speaker 2: the Moon had magma with it?
Speaker 1: Bro magma right A.
Speaker 2: Volcanic activity on the Moon un is thought to have
Speaker 2: petered out about one hundred one billion years ago. Uh,
Speaker 2: those scientists have discovered some evidence of younger volcanic activity
Speaker 2: as recent as one hundred million years ago. For this reason,
Speaker 2: the Moon is often considered geologically dead. However, there could
Speaker 2: still be magma deep underneath the lunar surface, Fang said.
Speaker 2: Change four isn't done with its work on the Moon yet.
Speaker 2: Fang hopes that in the future the craft will give
Speaker 2: us insight into different unexpected geological formations. I for one,
Speaker 2: hope that it tells us something about these uh lunar obelisks,
Speaker 2: because that's just insane to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I would. Actually, you know, and
Speaker 1: we've We've covered a lot of you know, how DC
Speaker 1: is constructed, and there's obelish really all over the world,
Speaker 1: and it could be for some strange occult reasons as
Speaker 1: to why they're erecting such things. But it makes me wonder, like,
Speaker 1: you know, is were they copying? Did they find some
Speaker 1: kind of use from why the moon possibly has these obelists?
Speaker 1: Did they find a legit reason as to why those
Speaker 1: are there? Because we just look at them like they're monuments, right,
Speaker 1: like they're nothing really that special, that they're just these long,
Speaker 1: like fucking needles in the that'd reach up to the sky,
Speaker 1: right and nobody really knows. I don't specifically understand why
Speaker 1: we we we even have like obelists and shit like that,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It definitely leans it lends to
Speaker 1: the idea, did they find that there was a particular
Speaker 1: reason for these objects that were on the moon, and
Speaker 1: is that why we replicated them here?
Speaker 2: It's always if we don't understand what it was for, oh,
Speaker 2: we believe it was for religious or ceremonial purposes, It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's kind of a cop out, right, just because you
Speaker 2: find a thing and because it doesn't fit into your understanding,
Speaker 2: I say, your say, like us as modern human beings,
Speaker 2: what was that one thing they found? It's like a
Speaker 2: ten sided dot in Rome, and it's got different size
Speaker 2: holes cut into it, and someone's got little studs on
Speaker 2: the corners. And we have no idea what they were for,
Speaker 2: but we have found them all over ancient Roman sites
Speaker 2: right off the rip. We believe it was for religious
Speaker 2: or ceremonial purposes. Then they had that old ma mall
Speaker 2: find a way to knit off of it and use
Speaker 2: it to make certain patterns and knitting and all that.
Speaker 2: And it's like, is it possible that since everybody made
Speaker 2: their own clothes at this time, that this was a
Speaker 2: thing that was used to mend broken things or like
Speaker 2: broken cloth and things like that, or you know, knit
Speaker 2: cloaks and shit like that, and that's why it's all
Speaker 2: over Rome. No, No, it had to be for religious
Speaker 2: or ceremonial purposes. You just don't know because you're not educated.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, bro, but it's shit like that. Like
Speaker 2: so in our modern lens. And why I say modern,
Speaker 2: I mean hell, even of the last thousand years, why
Speaker 2: did they have these obelisks built everywhere? Maybe we don't
Speaker 2: under stand it in our day and age, because that
Speaker 2: makes no sense to us. It's very possible that it was,
Speaker 2: in fact for religious and ceremonial purposes. Sure I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say that's a zero percent chance, But did it
Speaker 2: have a more practical use to it? I mean, I
Speaker 2: think possibly.
Speaker 1: It very well could have been a tribal type of
Speaker 1: religious structure. But does that necessarily mean that it's just
Speaker 1: nothing and people just close their eyes and pray to it?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily you know, like.
Speaker 2: That's the case, Why are they on the moon? Who
Speaker 2: was praying to it on the moon? Bro?
Speaker 1: I Yeah, I don't get that. So, I mean maybe
Speaker 1: it's possible there people use things in ceremony and shit
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I always like to wonder why,
Speaker 1: all right, like if you're meditating, or you're praying, or
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're scharding around these structures and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, like, all right, what is it actually adding?
Speaker 1: Like what does if it's a symbol, what does the
Speaker 1: symbol represent at that point?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: But just to say that it's religious and leave it
Speaker 1: at that, it's like, that's the laziest explanation I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, So, all right, got one more article I
Speaker 2: wanted to pull up here. This is from Mirror and actually,
Speaker 2: if you want to read it, that would be phenomenal,
Speaker 2: says The Dark side of the Moon hides a secret
Speaker 2: lunar base built by Earth's superpower.
Speaker 1: All Right, fifty years ago, America became the undisputed champions
Speaker 1: of the space race. Allegedly, the second that Neil Armstrong
Speaker 1: took his first step on the surface of the Moon, well,
Speaker 1: a lot of people, well I didn't think that was
Speaker 1: the cameraman probably, But anyway, the second that he took
Speaker 1: his first step on the surface of the Moon and
Speaker 1: uttered the immortal words, that's one small step from man,
Speaker 1: one giant leap for mankind. The moment was cemented in
Speaker 1: the minds of billions of people. It says. He was
Speaker 1: joined by fellow astronaut Buzz Aldrin as the pair spent
Speaker 1: several hours walking the surface of the Moon. Michael Collins
Speaker 1: was also part of the mission, remained in the command
Speaker 1: module while it was still in orbit. The Apollo eleven
Speaker 1: mission took off from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida
Speaker 1: on July sixteenth, nineteen sixty nine. It says It took
Speaker 1: the crew eight days to reach their destination, and the
Speaker 1: rest is history. Images and footage of the historic moment
Speaker 1: were beamed around the globe, mankind's first glimpse at lunar life.
Speaker 1: Since then, a further seven missions were sent to the
Speaker 1: Moon and just twelve walked on its surface, while another
Speaker 1: six drove lunar roving vehicles on its planes. These men
Speaker 1: are also the only to have had sight on the
Speaker 1: mythical dark side of the Moon, or are they Conspiracy
Speaker 1: theories have long cemented on what lies on the part
Speaker 1: of the Moon not visible from the Earth.
Speaker 2: Of course, as anybody would do.
Speaker 1: Some claim an ancient alien civilization has made it their
Speaker 1: home away from the prying eyes of humanity, but many
Speaker 1: think that the truth is far more connected to mankind
Speaker 1: a secret lunar base set up by one of Earth's superpowers.
Speaker 1: Some claim the not Azis managed to colonize and set
Speaker 1: up a base on the Moon, while others insist the
Speaker 1: US is the one who has a huge complex on
Speaker 1: the far side. There are wild claims that Adolph Hitler
Speaker 1: landed men on the Moon back in nineteen forty two,
Speaker 1: and Bulgarian researcher doctor Vladimir Terziski even claims that he
Speaker 1: has evidence to prove this bizarre theory.
Speaker 2: I will say that the Nazis were working on rockets,
Speaker 2: and they were the world's best at it, which is
Speaker 2: why Project paper Clip happened and why Warner von Braun
Speaker 2: made his way to America. I haven't seen anything that
Speaker 2: could solidify the claim that the Nazis made it to
Speaker 2: the Moon, although I do know they were trying, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we know that they were definitely on
Speaker 1: a search for some kind of spiritual advantages, you know,
Speaker 1: and who's to say they didn't find some kind of
Speaker 1: teleportation device. We don't know, We'll never know, probably.
Speaker 2: And keep in mind, they knew that these obelisks and
Speaker 2: that mountain existed in the eighteen hundreds, right, they had
Speaker 2: telescopes that were really good even that far back. Is
Speaker 2: it possible the Nazis were trying to get to those
Speaker 2: obelisks on the Moon to try to find some sort
Speaker 2: of proof of an Aryan race.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I would imagine that whatever is on
Speaker 1: the Moon is probably looking pretty fucking Aryan, right maybe,
Speaker 1: But I mean.
Speaker 2: Their version of the Aryans is different than the Persian
Speaker 2: version of the Aryans, and those are completely different from
Speaker 2: the versions of the White Giants and Antarctica, although the
Speaker 2: Nazis absolutely had a base set up there too, So
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot, y'all, there's a lot.
Speaker 1: So the guy in reference to the Nazis landing on
Speaker 1: the Moon back in the forties, it says he said,
Speaker 1: ever since their first day of landing on the Moon,
Speaker 1: the Germans started boring and tunneling under the surface, and
Speaker 1: by the end of the war there was a Nazi
Speaker 1: research base on the Moon. However, a base on the
Speaker 1: Moon might not be as far fetched as some people think.
Speaker 1: That's a fascinating story.
Speaker 2: It says.
Speaker 1: Late last year, China landed on a landed a rover
Speaker 1: on the far side of the Moon. The communist country
Speaker 1: is planning another four lunar missions based on the success
Speaker 1: of the first, and could soon build a research base
Speaker 1: on the Earth's nearest neighbor. You are, Wu Yanha, deputy
Speaker 1: chief commander of China's lunar exploration program, said, China, the
Speaker 1: United States, Russia, and Europe are all discussing whether to
Speaker 1: build a research base or a research station on the Moon.
Speaker 2: That's also pretty wild to me.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's the end of that article.
Speaker 1: I mean, could you imagine like all of those countries
Speaker 1: coming together and doing something that is very far away
Speaker 1: from prying eyes, right, and it it almost seems unprecedented.
Speaker 1: When have these countries ever come together for any one
Speaker 1: thing to to keep the peace? See where I'm going
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: All I could think of is Pax Ballistica, which is
Speaker 2: the nuclear agreement that everybody agreed to, and the Antarctic
Speaker 2: peace treaty that everybody agreed to. That's the only two
Speaker 2: that even slightly come to mind.
Speaker 1: Right, right.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that show that came out on Netflix
Speaker 2: a couple of years back, Space Force?
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I didn't watch it.
Speaker 2: It was really stupid, and that was the point. It
Speaker 2: was trying to shit all over the Space Force and
Speaker 2: by extension, Donald Trump for creating it. But the overarching
Speaker 2: theme of it was that China had built a lunar
Speaker 2: base and America needed a lunar base to counteract it.
Speaker 2: And basically, the two groups of astronauts kept doing things
Speaker 2: to each other to throw off the research of the
Speaker 2: bases of the other one. It was full of hygiens
Speaker 2: and a bunch of stupid stuff, and America came out
Speaker 2: looking like the incompetent buffoons of it. Again, it was
Speaker 2: trying to shit on the space force. That's all it
Speaker 2: would for you, that one hundred percent. But they're already
Speaker 2: talking about it a couple of years back, before China
Speaker 2: landed this rover, before the Obelisk conversation. Well, apparently it
Speaker 2: was happening in the sixties and seventies, but I had
Speaker 2: never heard about it until I was fucking I found
Speaker 2: this today, Like, I was just looking up random things,
Speaker 2: and I saw something about structures on the Moon. I
Speaker 2: found things about what China had discovered. As they're going
Speaker 2: on to the Dark Side and sending their sound waves in,
Speaker 2: they're finding structures, but most of them kind of look
Speaker 2: like lava tubes. That also got me questioning, when the
Speaker 2: hell did the Moon have volcanoes on it or any
Speaker 2: kind of active lava component. Apparently maybe one hundred million
Speaker 2: years ago, if we are to believe that it's that old.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I have an article that kind of dives a little
Speaker 1: bit more into China's findings on the dark side of
Speaker 1: the Moon. Here it says the Chinese lunar rover investigates
Speaker 1: an apparent ancient Egyptian obelisk on the dark side of
Speaker 1: the moon. Let's go how about that? This was written
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one. But yeah, look at that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that's the I can't
Speaker 1: be the real picture, right, It wouldn't be a ghost.
Speaker 2: Guy exactly exactly. But even still, the Chinese row finding
Speaker 2: obelisks as well. So we only know about eight of
Speaker 2: them on the side of the moon that's lit up.
Speaker 2: Who knows how many of them are on the dark sidebrow.
Speaker 1: Well, it says a Chinese lunar rover operating on the
Speaker 1: dark side of Earth's moon has discovered an object the
Speaker 1: size and shape of an ancient Egyptian obelisk. The Chinese
Speaker 1: Space Agency has released a photograph of the object. The
Speaker 1: rover is still seventy meters from the object, and it
Speaker 1: is not clear whether or not its surface is inscribed
Speaker 1: with Egyptian hieroglyphs or hieroglyphics, but it seems likely did
Speaker 1: the ancient Egyptians visit the dark side of the moon
Speaker 1: or did they form an alliance with extraterrestrials, As Eric
Speaker 1: van danikin proposed in Chariot of the Gods. Obelisks were
Speaker 1: prominent in the architecture of the ancient Egyptians and played
Speaker 1: a vital role in their religion, placing them in pairs
Speaker 1: at the entrance of the temples. The word obelisk as
Speaker 1: used in English in English today is of Greek rather
Speaker 1: than Egyptian origin, because Herododus, how do you say? Thats Herodotus,
Speaker 1: the Greek traveler, was one of the first classical writers
Speaker 1: to describe the objects. A number of ancient Egyptian obelists
Speaker 1: are known to have survived, plus the Unfinished obelis found
Speaker 1: partly hone from its quarry and Oswan. These obelists are
Speaker 1: now dispersed around the world, and fewer than half of
Speaker 1: them remained in Egypt. U two two is a robotic
Speaker 1: lunar rover that formed part of the Chinese Chang or
Speaker 1: Chang's for mission to the Moon. It was launched on
Speaker 1: December seventh, seventh, twenty eighteen, at six twenty three pm UTC.
Speaker 1: It entered lunar orbit on December twelfth of twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: before making the first soft landing on the Moon's far
Speaker 1: side on January third, twenty nineteen and is currently operational
Speaker 1: as the first lunar rover on the far side. In
Speaker 1: Chariot of the Gods, Eric von Danikin explores the hypothesis
Speaker 1: that the technologies and religions of ancient of many ancient
Speaker 1: civilizations were given to them by ancient astronauts who were
Speaker 1: welcomed as gods.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I did find another thing that the Chinese
Speaker 2: have found on the Moon. Apparently they found a mystery hut.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, this is you two two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's Yu two two or how you'd pronounce it for them,
Speaker 2: but whatever. So, China's U two two rover spots cube
Speaker 2: shaped mystery hut on the far side of the Moon.
Speaker 2: This is a from December of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 10: It's likely a large boulder excavated by ancient lunar impact.
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you, man, they have images of it.
Speaker 2: It seems a little too cube shaped to be just
Speaker 2: like a random impact thing that just jutted up here.
Speaker 2: China's rover has spotted a mystery object on the horizon
Speaker 2: while working its way across the von Karman Crater on
Speaker 2: the far side of the Moon. YOU two spotted a
Speaker 2: cube shaped object on the horizon on the north and
Speaker 2: roughly two hundred and sixty feet away in November during
Speaker 2: the mission thirty six lunar day. According to you twos
Speaker 2: to diary published by our Space, a Chinese language science
Speaker 2: outreach channel affiliated with China's National Space Administration. Our space
Speaker 2: referred to the object as a mystery hut. But this
Speaker 2: is a placeholder name rather than an accurate description either way, Bro,
Speaker 2: look at this. That is the image that was sent out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like looks like a little outhouse almost from
Speaker 1: a distance a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's blurry and if it's on the side of a crater,
Speaker 2: everything else around us super flat, super flat. This random
Speaker 2: thing and there's like hard corners to it, right. The
Speaker 2: team scientists have expressed a strong interest in the object,
Speaker 2: and U two too is now expected to spend the
Speaker 2: next two to three lunar days traversing lunar regalith and
Speaker 2: avoiding craters to get a closer look, so updates can
Speaker 2: be expected. A likely explanation for the shape would be
Speaker 2: a large border which has been excavated by an impact event,
Speaker 2: Allegedly the solar powered YouTube. Change four's lander made its
Speaker 2: first ever landing on the far side of the Moon
Speaker 2: January third, twenty nineteen, and the rover has been rolling
Speaker 2: through the one hundred and fifteen mile wide Von Carman
Speaker 2: Crater ever since. Change four, like its name suggests, is
Speaker 2: China's fourth Moon mission and second to deliver a rover
Speaker 2: on the Moon. The Change one and two missions were
Speaker 2: orbiters and Change three landing on the near side of
Speaker 2: the Moon with the first U two rover. China has
Speaker 2: also launched the Change five T one test mission around
Speaker 2: the Moon and Change five Moon Samplers or Turn mission.
Speaker 2: So we are already seeing more pictures and more images
Speaker 2: of things that we did not know about prior to
Speaker 2: China getting involved with the space situation. Now I'm not
Speaker 2: and you know me, I am not a fan of
Speaker 2: China by any stretch of the imagination, but the same
Speaker 2: way I wasn't a fan of the USSR, even though
Speaker 2: their reports also pro claim the same thing about the
Speaker 2: obelisks that America's reports claimed about the obelisks. So now
Speaker 2: China is getting their two cents in on this. I
Speaker 2: hope they make their way to the obelisk and maybe
Speaker 2: get a better close up picture of it. And if
Speaker 2: they're on the dark side of the moon right now,
Speaker 2: broll what else are they gonna find over there? A
Speaker 2: mystery hut, more obelisks, and now I'm hearing reports of
Speaker 2: a dome shaped potential underground base of some type. Now, again,
Speaker 2: it's not like the rover is burrowing underground to see
Speaker 2: what's inside of this thing. But at the images that
Speaker 2: are being sent out there, and at the rate not
Speaker 2: radars is at this point, it's not sonar either, wide
Speaker 2: are I don't know whatever it is. Whenever they're sending
Speaker 2: out their sound waves and they're getting the images back,
Speaker 2: they're finding all these tube structures underneath the surface of
Speaker 2: the Moon. I mean, it boggles the imagination. And we
Speaker 2: don't know literally anything about what's going on on the
Speaker 2: Moon or what has gone on on the Moon in
Speaker 2: years past. It's it's wild. Now again, this is to
Speaker 2: assume that the Moon is real and that space is
Speaker 2: not faking gay And I understand that that's gonna throw
Speaker 2: off a lot of good cult members listening to this
Speaker 2: right now, and they're just gonna immediately chalk all of
Speaker 2: this up. So, yeah, it's all part of the narrative.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. But when you have
Speaker 2: this many countries that are not friends with each other,
Speaker 2: if anything, most would consider them enemies in one regard
Speaker 2: or another, all coroborating the same types of stories, it
Speaker 2: kind of leads to more credence in my opinion. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I'm just looking at it from
Speaker 2: my perspective. What are your thoughts.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of, you know, on the fence with this
Speaker 1: whole thing, Like I like, I want to believe it
Speaker 1: is much more fascinating to believe that space and everything
Speaker 1: that NASA tells us about it is real. I want
Speaker 1: to believe that.
Speaker 2: But its just so though it's Russia and China as well.
Speaker 1: I know, it's just the simple fact that they've been
Speaker 1: so secretive about it, and we know that the footage
Speaker 1: is absolutely the fakest shit anybody's ever seen. And now
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a picture of where did I have it?
Speaker 1: Here we go, let me share the screen real quick.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a picture of their rover and it
Speaker 1: looks strikingly fucking similar to the bullshit that we were
Speaker 1: calling bullshit whenever we landed on the moon, Like all
Speaker 1: this tenfoil shit. That doesn't look like it's gonna be
Speaker 1: getting through any kind of radiation belt or anything like that, right.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, hold on real quick about the Van Allen
Speaker 2: radiation belt. What do you think that is? Just because
Speaker 2: you understand that heat goes through things through radiation, correct,
Speaker 2: I don't mean nuclear radiation. But like I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw something out to everybody, just a thought experiment.
Speaker 2: If you will, water boils at two hundred and twelve
Speaker 2: degrees fahrenheit at sea level, Okay, give or take depending
Speaker 2: on the purity of the water and these things. Okay,
Speaker 2: you can turn your oven to four hundred degrees fahrenheit
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Do you know why If you stuck your
Speaker 2: hand in your oven at four hundred degrees you'll be fine.
Speaker 2: You can keep it there for a good long while
Speaker 2: before you start experiencing any kind of pain or damage
Speaker 2: to your body. But if you stuck your hand in
Speaker 2: two hundred and twelve degree boiling water, you would instantly
Speaker 2: get more damage to your hand. This is the type
Speaker 2: of radiant heat that we are talking about here, and
Speaker 2: that is not in the vacuum of space, that is
Speaker 2: through a liquid medium. And through an air medium.
Speaker 10: There is no air in space, So the Van Allen
Speaker 10: radiation belt being the thing that's like tearing up everything,
Speaker 10: I have a hard time believing, bro.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like a pretty impossible thing to
Speaker 1: get through, like if you see, because you know, just
Speaker 1: from what I've learned of the Van Allen radiation belt,
Speaker 1: like it is, you know, they have to wait for
Speaker 1: certain times for the Van Allen radiation belt to not
Speaker 1: be so dangerous. Like there's certain times of the year
Speaker 1: and shit like that, right, Like there's a reason why
Speaker 1: they always go in the fall, like and I think
Speaker 1: they went in the summer.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it all depends on the space debris and
Speaker 1: shit like that. But there are certain times whenever the
Speaker 1: radiation is easier to get through. But they've talked about
Speaker 1: like solar winds and shit like affecting it and all
Speaker 1: this other I don't understand it, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: But I the way that they've described it, it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just putting your hand through an oven for a
Speaker 1: point of time, Like, No, these things will fucking melt
Speaker 1: your soul, dude.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that that's what the Van Allen radiation
Speaker 2: belt is. I mean, I could be completely wrong here.
Speaker 2: I'm not a space physicist by any means, and I know,
Speaker 2: depending on which source we read, we are.
Speaker 10: Going off of the official narrative of academia and who
Speaker 10: could how can we really even trust them in the
Speaker 10: first place?
Speaker 2: But how do we even know the Van Allen radiation
Speaker 2: belts real?
Speaker 1: Well? Because NASA said so, I mean, well, this is
Speaker 1: from but seriously, this is from the NASA website. It
Speaker 1: says what are the Van Allen Belts and why do
Speaker 1: they matter? All right? So exploring beyond the Van Allen Belts,
Speaker 1: It says one of the largest hazards for astronauts traveling
Speaker 1: to Mars will be overcoming exposure to high energy radiation
Speaker 1: from the solar wind, solar storms, and galactic cosmic rays
Speaker 1: that originate outside of our solar system. This radiation is
Speaker 1: more damaging to humans than medical X rays used to
Speaker 1: see broken bones or treat cancer. The Earth's magnetosphere traps
Speaker 1: the high energy radiation particles and shields the Earth from
Speaker 1: the solar storms and the constantly streaming solar wind that
Speaker 1: can damage technology as well as people. Living on Earth.
Speaker 1: These trap particles form two belts of radiation, known as
Speaker 1: the Van Allen Belts, that surround the Earth like enormous doughnuts.
Speaker 1: Kind of like a little toroid action going there, right.
Speaker 2: I was just about to say, man, I like it.
Speaker 1: The outer belt is made up of billions of high
Speaker 1: energy particles that originate from the Sun, and the inner
Speaker 1: belt results from interactions of cosmic rays with the Earth's atmosphere.
Speaker 1: Astronauts must fly through the Van Allen Belts to reach
Speaker 1: outer space, so it is important to fly through this
Speaker 1: region quickly to limit their exposure to radiation. Sensitive electronics
Speaker 1: on satellites and spacecraft traveling through the Van Allen Belts
Speaker 1: also need to be protected from the radiation, so it
Speaker 1: was discovered in the fifties. It says located beyond low
Speaker 1: Earth orbit. These radiation belts were discovered by nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: eight by astrophysicist James Van Allen, who helped uncover the
Speaker 1: key to enabling exploration of the Outer Solar System. Van
Speaker 1: Allen calculated that it was possible to fly through the
Speaker 1: weaker regions of radiation to reach outer space. In nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight, NASA's Apollo Mission eight was the first crude
Speaker 1: spaceship to fly beyond the Van Allen Belts to orbit
Speaker 1: the Moon and then return to Earth. The most recent
Speaker 1: time humans have set foot on the Moon or traveled
Speaker 1: beyond low Earth orbit was in nineteen seventy two, during
Speaker 1: the final mission of the Apollo program, Apollo seventeen. When
Speaker 1: the International Space Station was completed in twenty eleven, it's
Speaker 1: low Earth orbit. Maybe it made it safer for astronauts
Speaker 1: to travel to and from the station as it was
Speaker 1: a shorter distance from the Earth, approximately two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty miles, roughly the distance between DC and New York City.
Speaker 1: So going further with Artemis, it says NASA plans to
Speaker 1: use its upcoming Artemis missions to send astronauts beyond the
Speaker 1: Van Allen Belts to land on the south pole of
Speaker 1: the Moon by the end of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Okay, later this year they're going to do this. But okay,
Speaker 2: so it's radiation. Then it's saying it's like X ray
Speaker 2: style radiation, and there we have ways of shielding from that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just reading what I'm reading, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily at you I'm saying that towards NASA,
Speaker 2: like their own narrative does make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, and then you go right here,
Speaker 1: popular mechanics. How NASA got Apollo astronauts through dangerous Van
Speaker 1: Allen Belts. It's always difficult being the first, especially when
Speaker 1: you're going to space. The Apollo program encountered many difficulties
Speaker 1: on its trip to the Moon, ranging from mechanical to astrophysics.
Speaker 1: The issue of the Van Allen Belt and its radioactivity
Speaker 1: was a particular serious concern while planning the mission. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: it was a problem with a solution, one that involves
Speaker 1: skirting the most dangerous parts of the belt and making
Speaker 1: sure the astronauts got through it as quickly as humanly possible.
Speaker 1: Scientists are still learning more about the Van Allen Belts.
Speaker 1: In twenty thirteen, researchers were studying how their electrons approach
Speaker 1: astonishing speeds near the speed of light. So electrons that
Speaker 1: are going the speed of fucking light, right, and so
Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting and said. In twenty fourteen, a paper
Speaker 1: was published revealing a barrier within the belt itself. In
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, a paper looked at the electron rainfall called
Speaker 1: dropouts that occurs when intense bouts of solar radiation interfere
Speaker 1: with the Earth's magnetic environment. While scientists have figured out
Speaker 1: how to get around them, the Van Allen Belt still
Speaker 1: hold a lot of secrets for something so close to home,
Speaker 1: so interesting to give any answers really well, I mean,
Speaker 1: it just showed that it's pretty dangerous, and they take
Speaker 1: it seriously. It's not like a literal walk in the park,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying it is. And I'm again I'm
Speaker 2: not an astrophysicist by any means. I don't know much
Speaker 2: of this, but that's my point for that. For East,
Speaker 2: even having the conversation of what the Van Allen radiation
Speaker 2: Belt is, we have to go to NASA for the source.
Speaker 2: And then a lot of our cult members don't believe
Speaker 2: literally anything that NASA says, which, okay, I'm not throwing shade.
Speaker 2: I'm one of them, right again, I'm not even throwing
Speaker 2: that towards you. I'm just saying it's like, so much
Speaker 2: is unknown about this that we don't we don't even
Speaker 2: understand what it is or how it affects us. And
Speaker 2: then to say that if fried all of the electronics
Speaker 2: and that's why we can't go back to the Moon,
Speaker 2: even though China just did it. And as far as
Speaker 2: hiding the radiation or protecting us or shielding us, we
Speaker 2: have foil that can protect from radiation, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm not saying you just coat the entire
Speaker 2: craft and lead, although that's I guess an option. There
Speaker 2: are better options these days especially, and and somehow we
Speaker 2: still are having this conversation about if they'll be able
Speaker 2: to make it through the van Allen radiation. But when
Speaker 2: they were allegedly able to make it through in the sixties.
Speaker 1: It just that's well, that's what the problem is with it,
Speaker 1: you know, like for something so dangerous that you didn't
Speaker 1: even know was there until once you were there. And
Speaker 1: now you're you're you're trying to understand the enigma of
Speaker 1: how to safely get through this radiation zone. But you
Speaker 1: were able to do it in the sixties. And then
Speaker 1: you showed us the footage allegedly on the moon.
Speaker 10: The moon rang like a bell when buzz Aldrin hit
Speaker 10: on it, And it's like, wait, what this is what
Speaker 10: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is why so many people have trust issues with NASA,
Speaker 1: and in this in all Space Administrations, right, Like, it's
Speaker 1: because it's so shrouded in history. It's so it's so
Speaker 1: shrouded in scientific evidence that you're just supposed to believe
Speaker 1: what they say, because who's gonna fucking double check them?
Speaker 1: Who checks the irs? Well, now doze, but who was
Speaker 1: auditing the irs? It's the same enigma, right, like, who's
Speaker 1: going to fact check you? Nobody? There's nobody there. You
Speaker 1: can make up whatever the fuck you want. You could
Speaker 1: say the dinosaurs still live there, and the majority of
Speaker 1: people would believe you.
Speaker 2: I feel like they may not, but I give NASA
Speaker 2: said it. Yeah, if NASA said it, there would be
Speaker 2: some people there would like, actually, just go along with
Speaker 2: it for sure.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So that's why it's, you know,
Speaker 1: dangerous conversations. You're never gonna go to space. I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna go to space. My kids are probably never going
Speaker 1: to go to space. Their kids are probably never going
Speaker 1: to go to space. I don't care how much Elon
Speaker 1: wants to die on Mars. I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: happen for a multitude of reasons. We don't know how
Speaker 1: he's gonna get there. I mean, we've never landed human
Speaker 1: foot on Mars, right, No, I mean there's been rovers
Speaker 1: and shit, but there's never been human foot that is
Speaker 1: stepped on Mars that we know of. And also, how
Speaker 1: the fuck are you gonna get all the resources to
Speaker 1: survive over there on a regular basis? You know, It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that it's all just hypothetical.
Speaker 1: I think that it's big dreams but low possibility of happening.
Speaker 1: But with all that being said, and I'm not disagreeing
Speaker 1: with you by any means.
Speaker 2: The obelisks on the moon that multiple sources are saying
Speaker 2: are there that I actually kind of believe is real. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're man made. I don't believe those
Speaker 2: are naturally formed either. But not only that, now we
Speaker 2: have that square on Mars, right, there's no fucking way
Speaker 2: that was naturally made. Well, and I don't believe humans
Speaker 2: made that either.
Speaker 1: And that's something that I was reading earlier. You know,
Speaker 1: as far as obelisk shaped things on one of Jupiter's moons,
Speaker 1: they say that they have those, but they're ice structures.
Speaker 1: But we don't think there's ice on the moon, right.
Speaker 2: Uh, on our moon? No, I'm not about the moons
Speaker 2: of Jupiter. Is it very possible that they had water
Speaker 2: at one point and they had an atmosphere on that
Speaker 2: moon and then it got evaporated and froze, kind of
Speaker 2: like the.
Speaker 10: Water on Mars that's now ice. It's possible, I suppose
Speaker 10: cult members.
Speaker 1: Is there an alien race that has been mining the moon?
Speaker 1: Are they somehow maybe in the inside of the hollow moon?
Speaker 1: Did it ring like a bell? What are these structures?
Speaker 1: Is it some kind of religious ceremonial thing that you
Speaker 1: would do on the moon. If so, all right, I
Speaker 1: want to learn about that. I want to know, like,
Speaker 1: how are you introducing these structures to you know, uh,
Speaker 1: to religious ceremonies and shit, I want to know that.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, explain it. Are there other ancient civilizations?
Speaker 1: Are there extraterrestrials that are on the moon? Did we
Speaker 1: go to the moon? Is it an ancient human civilization
Speaker 1: that somehow made it up there? And this is all
Speaker 1: we got left to show for the proof of that.
Speaker 1: Maybe time will tell, Maybe NASA will give us a
Speaker 1: cool little mythological story that nobody will be able to
Speaker 1: fact check. That's also possible, but I mean, we leave
Speaker 1: it up for speculation, and those of you with your
Speaker 1: third eye all the way open, you will come to
Speaker 1: some kind of solution. Might be the right one, might
Speaker 1: be the wrong one, but who knows. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: honestly stuck on this. I don't know what to do
Speaker 1: about that. But I'm not gonna say it's impossible. I
Speaker 1: think that it's possible that these are not naturally forming,
Speaker 1: that somebody, something, some win put them there for some reason.
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