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Speaker 1: With that, now let's go to your conversation with Mike

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to the audience, this is not the typical Lenky Rayfield conversation.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why you can explain this a little further.

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Speaker 1: You were one of several getting the rare opportunity to

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talk with him in advance of this Jake Paul fight.

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Speaker 2: And as it turns out, you were like Derek Jeter

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for your Yankees. You were in the one spot.

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Speaker 1: You were the lead off guy here when you got

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a hold of him, and it took some work to

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get it done, but you got that done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got it done. I mean, look, Number one,

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I have a good relationship with Mike and always have

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ever since the disastrous first interview, you know, twenty some

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years ago. I was in the one slot because to

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make it happen, the one thing I have, and you

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know this, my hard schedule on Friday is our bet

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Us show, That's right, And the time when Mike was

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available was like right on the edge of that show,

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and obviously I didn't want to miss the show.

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Speaker 4: And that's a mess up. You know, that would be

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a problem.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have a contingency that if suddenly Mike was

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delayed and you had to leave during the show, we

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were gonna let you leave and come back.

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Speaker 2: I could tell us how that was going.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of sort of not that I wanted it,

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but I was kind of sort of intrigue, how's this

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Speaker 2: But it turns out they were on time and you

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got your time with him.

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Speaker 3: Right, So they Mike had they What they did was

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they basically were going to do like I think Mike

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up different people to do these interviews with short interviews,

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you know, ten, five, eight minutes whatever it was going

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to be. And so I say, you know, and again

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time I have this commitment position?

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Speaker 4: Exactly? So they did. But here's the thing. Mike was on.

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long time. They hadn't talked to him for an interview

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in several years, even though I saw him in Vegas

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not that long ago, and actually, uh, you know, spend

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a little time shooting the shit with him. But uh, anyway,

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we talked about the Jake Paul fight that's coming up

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on November fifteenth, and got into a couple of things

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about that, and it was good to talk to me.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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because that's not necessarily Mike sporte timeliness. But you know what,

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he's He's taken this and acting like a true professional,

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it seems to me, And it was was excellent to

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Speaker 1: Let's get to that conversation with Iron Mike fighting Jake

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Speaker 2: Here you go right now on the pod.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is my great pleasure to be welcome to

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our podcast today none other than the former undisputed heavyweight

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champion of the world and dare I say, boxing icon

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Mike Tyson. Mike, it's been a while since we've had

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an interview. I really appreciate It's.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you. How have you been. Basically, you're

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Speaker 5: I've been training over a year so fun.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm just grateful to be healthy, grateful to be here,

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your career when you were throwing an active fighter back

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don't think that's changed actually, even though you haven't been fighting.

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I'm still covering professional boxing. But it blows my mind

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more that Mike Tyson's getting back in the ring for

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what is an officially sanctioned oubt despite a few rules squeaks.

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Speaker 6: Well, now, you know, this payday wouldn't change my life

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any you know, my life would still be the same

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if I didn't get received. This person is just that

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I want to test myself. I want to get outside

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean everybody knows your history. You were, at

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age twenty, the youngest heavyweight champion in the history of boxing,

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and as you know, your mentor, the Great Custom Model,

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predicted that it was his prophecy. He unfortunately died before

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he was able to see you realize that. And I

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wonder if you ever given a moment's thought to what

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he would think that now you're coming out of almost

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a twenty year retirement to fight again.

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Speaker 6: He would love it because they hate thought that fighting

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was psychological and one of one of the physical. And

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if a fighter stayed in shape and he stayed the active,

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you'll still be successful at an old age as well.

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Speaker 4: What do your kids think about this?

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Speaker 3: Because they weren't around when you were champion, they weren't

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around when you were a top contender and still active,

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and they're gonna get to see their dad fight for

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Speaker 4: Probably most of the you know these, some.

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Speaker 5: Of my kids probably say you crazy.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know kids kids don't look at you,

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and other people look at you look at your dad

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to see your flaw. Hey you're crazy, dad, I think

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your old lad down or something like that. But you know,

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I think they're gonna be an exciting scene. By they'd

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Speaker 3: All right, you mentioned old man. I mean, we all

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just you know, think you're one of the greatest fighters

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of all time, but probably acknowledge that men who are

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in his physical prime.

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Speaker 4: What do you say to the people that are concerned

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Speaker 5: A lot of things I shouldn't be doing more than fighting.

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Speaker 6: I shouldn't be out in club thinking that I'm a

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big shot of something, out of a big event, in

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worship by people.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm too old for that crap.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think I'm too old a sieve ward iconically,

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look at this, and again, they know Mike Tyson, They've

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seen the highlights, They maybe watch your fights, maybe they're

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fans of Jakes, but they look at the pairing between

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you two guys, they say, well, this is kind of

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a sideshow. What is your response to those folks.

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Speaker 4: I'll take you.

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Speaker 3: I'll take you back when you had your final fight,

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obviously before this one, your your last official fight against

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Kevin McBride two thousand and five, almost you know, twenty

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vividly remember. I don't know if you remember this. You

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tell me fights over. You did your press commence, you

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announce your retirement, and you and me and I was

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early in my days at ESPN, and my former colleague

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from USA today who I know you know well over

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the years, John Sarasino. The three of us sat at

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the table at the at the Dais after your press

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an hour and basically said, I don't ever want to

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fight again. I'd never want to pick up gloves. I

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hate the smell of a gym. I'm done.

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Speaker 4: Remember that.

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Speaker 5: You remember that implicitly, but you have to really consider it.

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Speaker 6: Back then, I'm doing cocaine, I'm doing liquor, I'm doing

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all kind of drug. I'm killing myself. I'm not having

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a good relationship with myself my time. Times are different

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myself from God, and I don't feel like that anymore.

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Speaker 5: What was uh?

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during my workouts and I couldn't understand it because just

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Speaker 3: And you're good now or they're still instription now I'm

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you still have it in you like you did when

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you were the baddest man on the planet and would

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go into the ring and destroy your opponents. Maybe you

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the mentality still that that's what you want to do? Uh,

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Speaker 4: You do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we're gonna see you think we're gonna see

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a classic Mike Tyson knockout.

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Speaker 5: I'm coming again. I'm coming straight forth.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: I wrap up with just this last question, then, Mike.

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They amended the rules a little bit, made the two

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minute rounds fourteen ounce gloves a little different than your

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average men's boxing match you would normally as a heavyweight,

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b about your thoughts about the rules changes.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mike, I really appreciate your time. I know

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you very much and I.

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Speaker 4: Start.

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Speaker 3: Good thing you again. Yeah, Mike, great to see you. Also,

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thank you very much, and like I said, best luck

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Speaker 1: Can I just tell you that just hearing that, I mean,

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that's tremendous. I didn't I don't you know, I don't

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get the privilege of seeing it because again you did

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a video interview with him, and when we get to

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hear it, but just hearing that gets you rolling. I

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I'm talking about hearing him here on the pod with

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him gets me in a bigger, more anticipatory. Is that

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Speaker 1: With certainly certainly massive there on that. So again, I

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hope we get to the finish line. We're now within

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a week of getting to the finish line because he's

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had health problems. He's fifty eight. But at least you

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wrap it up as we now get ready for fight

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week for that week next week.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just say there's a lot, a lot of

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differences between doing some interviews with some boxing writers and

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reporters and media personalities compared to getting in the ring

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and facing a twenty seven year old man that's throwing

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punches at your head when you haven't been in a

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real fight in twenty years. So, you know, for for

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everybody's sake, I hope it's not a train wreck that

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a lot of people are expecting. I don't know what's

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going to happen. I certainly have my feelings about how

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the result's going to happen. We'll get into that later

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as the fight gets closer. But I hope that when

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it's over that people are not disappointed. At least a

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good thing about it is compared to having spent maybe

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seven or eighty dollars in a pay per view. At

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least this is not a pay per view.

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Speaker 4: It's part of a.

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Speaker 3: Regular Netflix subscription. Obviously, millions and millions of people have Netflix,

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so no extra chart. You watch it the same way

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you watch anything else you might watch a Netflix. So

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from that standpoint, it is good. And they have some

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interesting fights on the undercard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously the Katie Taylor.

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Speaker 3: A rematch against Amanda Toronto, so it's going to be,

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you know, an event.

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Speaker 5: So let's go.

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Speaker 4: I'll pick ten. What happens.

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Speaker 1: We have at least gotten in range of fight with

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brother Rahield, So that's good.

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Speaker 2: That's upcoming.

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Speaker 1: An excellent job, excellent hustle with getting iron Mic