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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for.

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<v Speaker 2>Agnition with the aw Fan podcast team. But let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about all In. Our overall impressions of

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<v Speaker 2>all In. This was a good show. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no other way to put it. It was a good show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it exceeded my personal expectations. If I'm being

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<v Speaker 2>honest with it. I didn't have bad expectations. Don't get

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<v Speaker 2>me wrong. I just think that it exceeded my expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that kind of caught me a little off

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<v Speaker 2>guard is when Jamie Hater appeared in zero Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of understand why he did that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I kind of don't because if she had come

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<v Speaker 2>out in zero hour and said I'm going to fight

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<v Speaker 2>you during the show, then that may have enticed people

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<v Speaker 2>to buy the show the actual pay per view, But

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<v Speaker 2>her coming out in zero hour and then doing nothing

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<v Speaker 2>at all afterward, it kind of seemed like a wasted

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<v Speaker 2>a wasted return. I don't know how to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's just my one of my impressions. We'll keep

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<v Speaker 2>going as long as we want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Who else has something they have to they that caught

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<v Speaker 2>their eyes? Be good bad, strange whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the the arrangement of the matches blacked this

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<v Speaker 3>time great show. I agree with you, it was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the better shows of the year so far.

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<v Speaker 1>But the women's.

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<v Speaker 3>Matches should have been switched. There's no way in hell

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<v Speaker 3>you put Mercedes Monette in them after the women's title.

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<v Speaker 3>That match was the title. That match should have been

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest match on the card. I know we all

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<v Speaker 3>thought throughout the run up to it that it should

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<v Speaker 3>have been the main event, but it was the second

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<v Speaker 3>match in the night that made no sense to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know you're not real big on the hook match,

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<v Speaker 3>but the best part of that match for me was

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<v Speaker 3>the Taz mission. It was awesome to see Taz do

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<v Speaker 3>something other than just talk on the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough, anybody else have an impression of all in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I definitely the show exceeded my expectations. I know

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<v Speaker 4>I'd made the comment before comparing it to last year

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<v Speaker 4>with Adam Cole and MJF. I thought that build was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot better, but the main event caught me completely

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<v Speaker 4>off guard. It was everything it needed to be a more.

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<v Speaker 4>There was great wrestling, there was great storytelling, there was

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<v Speaker 4>great personality, just the main event blew me away for

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<v Speaker 4>aw's biggest show of the year. It hit right.

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<v Speaker 2>On one of the things long and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>get your your thoughts on this. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I read as a negative the main event is

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<v Speaker 2>that Brian Danielson took a bunch of finishers and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't seem to phase him, you know, in the way

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<v Speaker 2>that it should have. I guess what do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I will give AW the credit. Normally there they

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<v Speaker 4>can be bad with the finisher, kickout or finish her

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<v Speaker 4>no cells. But I feel like since they saved it

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<v Speaker 4>mainly for the main event. We did get some in

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<v Speaker 4>will Osbury and MJF, but mainly in the main event,

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<v Speaker 4>it worked within the story like these are the two

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<v Speaker 4>top guys. If there's somebody who's strong enough to will

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<v Speaker 4>his way out of a house call straight to the head,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Brian Daniels. Said what he does that his kids

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<v Speaker 4>are watching right there right.

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<v Speaker 3>So wait a minute. So they complained that Danielson kicked

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<v Speaker 3>out of numerous finishers, when that's how Swerve has won

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<v Speaker 3>every match he's been in since he became champion. Does

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<v Speaker 3>that not make any sense?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you look at it from a point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at it from a point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people that had not watched AW

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<v Speaker 2>pay per views were likely watching this one. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of posts, you know, on Reddit that said,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched any AW pay per views, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did like this and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought it was good.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are a few people that didn't make a

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<v Speaker 2>comment about it. So you're right in your assessment. There something.

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<v Speaker 2>But the I think that we have to realize they're

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<v Speaker 2>take into consideration is that maybe not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who have seen a lot of swarve matches that

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<v Speaker 2>made those comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else wants?

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<v Speaker 2>Who else has an impression of all in.

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<v Speaker 5>All good and go? If I can't, I want to

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<v Speaker 5>really talk. Not really bad. Okay, So I was on

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<v Speaker 5>the chat for the Casino Gauntlet and people were picking

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<v Speaker 5>that apart for the stupidest reasons. I enjoyed the hell

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<v Speaker 5>out of that match. It hyped me up. I was glued.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's better than the Royal Rumble in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was good.

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<v Speaker 5>But people want to nitpicked Nigel. Why was Nigel in it? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>Nigel was in it because It was fun and that's

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<v Speaker 5>what wrestling should be. It was a good match. The

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<v Speaker 5>ending was kind of weird, but it worked out in

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<v Speaker 5>the end. So that's my piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask you this, MK.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you enjoy the match for the wrestling more predominantly

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<v Speaker 2>than you enjoyed the match for the entrances and the

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<v Speaker 2>circumstance of people coming to the ring and not knowing

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<v Speaker 2>you was going to be next You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the surprise factor of the of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was a surprise factor. I think there were

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<v Speaker 5>some good parts the wrestling, like Nigel and Zach Favor

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<v Speaker 5>Junior tying up and doing their thing was kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 5>There are bits and pieces that were good, but overall

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<v Speaker 5>it was a fun environment that kept me guessing and

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<v Speaker 5>kept me entertaining. Because usually we're during a royal rumbol,

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<v Speaker 5>it has low spots. But I think Tony has found

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<v Speaker 5>a creation of his own that works for him and

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<v Speaker 5>people like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not. Did you have anything that you wanted to say

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<v Speaker 1>about all in?

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<v Speaker 6>Overall, I liked all in. I liked all of the matches.

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<v Speaker 6>I have to agree with I think it was sudden

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<v Speaker 6>that it seemed a little bit out of Order, But

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<v Speaker 6>I think that it was like that, like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 6>Kelson for the people that maybe were watching for the

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<v Speaker 6>first time or the casual fans, and also to make

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<v Speaker 6>things not so predictable for those of us that maybe

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<v Speaker 6>watch every week, to keep us on the edge of

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<v Speaker 6>our seats and guessing. And there was a point during

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<v Speaker 6>Swerve and Danielsen's match where I thought about Sutton because

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<v Speaker 6>Swerve was laughing off Danielson's hits, and it just it

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<v Speaker 6>got to me and made me chuckle because I know

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<v Speaker 6>that was a point that Sutton had brought up that

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<v Speaker 6>he was tired of seeing Swerve do that. Yes, one

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<v Speaker 6>of the things that I liked during the Gauntlet match

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<v Speaker 6>was seeing Dark Order out there and Evil Uno keeping

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<v Speaker 6>tribute to Brodie Lee, right. I thought that for a

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<v Speaker 6>moment there when Orange Cassidy kind of dropped from the sky,

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<v Speaker 6>that this was it. This was finally Dark Orange Cassidy

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<v Speaker 6>or who I've been calling Blood Orange, and he was

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<v Speaker 6>gonna go for it and go all in and really

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<v Speaker 6>lose his mind. And of course he gets out there

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<v Speaker 6>and does that damn roll up once again that I

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<v Speaker 6>am really tired of seeing and I wish he would

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<v Speaker 6>stop it and I can't take it anymore. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 6>I thought things overall were gonna be a little more

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<v Speaker 6>violent than they were. And that's kind of one of

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<v Speaker 6>the things that I missed a little bit, was I

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<v Speaker 6>think that things didn't get quite as violent as they

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<v Speaker 6>usually do, even between Darby and Jack Perry, and I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't maybe I missed it during their match, but it

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<v Speaker 6>didn't seem like anybody called out the fact that when

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<v Speaker 6>they threw that glass down, that glass was the glass

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<v Speaker 6>from the windshield from last year, or at least it

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<v Speaker 6>was supposed to be, and it okay, nobody pointed that out,

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<v Speaker 6>and I thought that that was kind of a big

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<v Speaker 6>throwback to what happened, like talking about it without talking

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<v Speaker 6>about it, and you know, so that's my that's what

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<v Speaker 6>I took from it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about a little bit, like a

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<v Speaker 2>subliminal things that happened that I noticed. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>I'm weird, so I noticed the silly stuff. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people noticed it too, but I wanted to point

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<v Speaker 2>it at that pointed out because I even made a

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<v Speaker 2>post on the aw fat Up subread it about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just wanted to talk about a few things

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<v Speaker 2>that happened during the show that I thought were.

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<v Speaker 1>Silly, unusual, or just neat.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, this was the first time I ever saw

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<v Speaker 2>the House of Black walk to the ring because it

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<v Speaker 2>usually goes dark. We saw their entire entrance because their

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<v Speaker 2>entrance was early in the show. Another thing that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought this was kind of funny, was when

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<v Speaker 2>Orange Cassidy was announced.

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<v Speaker 1>The pyro for him was this.

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<v Speaker 2>One little pathetic firecracker that they showed at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing I wanted to point out was that streamer guy,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that was in charge of the streamers during

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<v Speaker 2>the mgf Osprey match. He's probably fired, so unfortunate, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just and I did hear that

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<v Speaker 2>the Darby Allen Jack Perry match was cut short because

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<v Speaker 2>the show was going a little long and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock erpew for I guesst Noy's ordinance or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, so they had to cut that match short.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they think the issues they're having in England

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<v Speaker 3>right now, there's been a lot of violence lately, so

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<v Speaker 3>that might have been and also a reason why it

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<v Speaker 3>was cut short to your point that they were had.

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<v Speaker 2>A curfew, okay, and then you know, is there anything

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<v Speaker 2>else that kind of stood out for you guys that

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<v Speaker 2>you noticed that just seemed interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I did at one moment just kind of chuckle about

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<v Speaker 4>the Casino Gauntlet and seeing like Roderick Strong and Kyle

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<v Speaker 4>O'Reilly and Nigel McGinnis, and it's just like I'm watching

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<v Speaker 4>Ring of Honor from two thousand and nine again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or you can even say, when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>Roderick Strong, words Cassidy, Kyle O'Reilly, Mark Briscoe, you're watching

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<v Speaker 2>every episode of Dynamite, Rampage and Collision from the last

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<v Speaker 2>six months. And guess who's on tomorrow night as well?

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<v Speaker 2>You know those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking forward to getting to that and I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Something to say about that too. So, so we had

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<v Speaker 2>some title changes or maybe not even changes, because I

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<v Speaker 2>like the Trios title was not it was vacated basically,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was one but the previous winners didn't win,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess you could call it a title change.

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<v Speaker 2>Ed will Osprey winning the Now and International Championship, So

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<v Speaker 2>you we did have quite a number of things going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess is the best way to put it. But

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<v Speaker 2>now you have to look at it as far as Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now all in is over, You've got the all

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<v Speaker 2>Out card coming up. Plus you're you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to start building stories. You know, who is Mariah May

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<v Speaker 2>now going to battle? Who is Brian Danielson now going

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<v Speaker 2>to battle? You know, as far as we know that,

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<v Speaker 2>like Darby Allen has a title shot and we know

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<v Speaker 2>that Christian Cage has a title shot, are those going

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<v Speaker 2>to be long term feuds or is there going to

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<v Speaker 2>to be matches? You know, Mariah May, you know we

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<v Speaker 2>still have Mercedes Bonet with the belt? What's next for

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<v Speaker 2>will Osprey? The only thing that we know is will

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<v Speaker 2>Osprey at all Out. It has already been announced that

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<v Speaker 2>will Osprey is going to have a match against Pack

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<v Speaker 2>at All Out. But what what will you guys like

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<v Speaker 2>to see? As far as story, not necessarily for championships,

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<v Speaker 5>I really think that Christian versus Damnson doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 4>I agree. I think that because they've made it a

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<v Speaker 4>on to that until Danielson has a for sure title

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's going to be a long title

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<v Speaker 4>run or any or a long program or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 4>but I would like to see Jack Perry getting an

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<v Speaker 4>actual feud for the TNT title and and be on

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<v Speaker 4>Dynamite and be kind of featured.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think the return of the Grizzled Young Vets

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<v Speaker 3>is going to hopefully put some life into the tag

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<v Speaker 3>team division. I think that could be a big thing

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<v Speaker 2>Try to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Mariah May, I don't know who she had. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's end up it's gonna end up being her versus

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<v Speaker 3>probably either Nina shere Kawa or the returning I can't

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<v Speaker 3>That could be one of the things that they do

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<v Speaker 3>with Danielson. I'm it's gonna depend on what he says

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow night. I really don't want to say much on

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<v Speaker 3>what I think is gonna happen with the main title,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't know, you know, whether he's gonna he

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<v Speaker 3>could come out tomorrow night and say I'm done. I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta get my neck fixed and I can't wrestle anymore

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<v Speaker 3>and just re relinquish the title. So I guess tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>night will determine more what's gonna happen for me in

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's true, Matt, did you have anything.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like to see Hangman do a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe roll over some more people with his carry on,

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<v Speaker 6>But my eyes honestly are on Russel Dream because they're

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<v Speaker 6>coming to where I am. So I'm I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 6>somehow they're going to swerve this dare I say, into

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<v Speaker 6>a swerve Hangman match. I don't know how, but that's

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<v Speaker 6>one of the things that I'm I'm really hoping for.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm looking forward to seeing Osprey and Pack and

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<v Speaker 6>I want to see what the young bucks or our

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<v Speaker 6>wonderful EVPs are going to do, I you know, And

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<v Speaker 6>there were some twists there, like I'm surprised that Luchsaurus

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<v Speaker 6>did what he did. I was looking for him to

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<v Speaker 6>turn on Christian and I want to know where they're

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<v Speaker 6>going with that with this this whole thing with him

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<v Speaker 6>and Christian, So I don't know women's division all around,

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<v Speaker 6>So I just want to see where things are going

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<v Speaker 6>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the one thing that we're definitely going

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<v Speaker 2>to see is MGF and Daniel Garcia, and I like

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<v Speaker 2>that because it gets FJF and Daniel Garcia in a

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<v Speaker 2>feud that doesn't involve a belt, and I like to

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<v Speaker 2>see Tony Kahan do more of that. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>see Tony Khan do more of that because not every

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<v Speaker 2>feud has to be for a title.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a great point and I really do

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<v Speaker 4>agree with that, and I think having a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>those feuds will help with the fielding that there's too

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<v Speaker 4>many titles because every feud is for a title. Now

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<v Speaker 4>at least get some variety. So definitely a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd actually like to see Mina Shirakala and Tony Storm

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<v Speaker 2>in a feud, even though Tony Storm has already defeated

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<v Speaker 2>Mina Shirakala, even if it's a tag team. Even if

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<v Speaker 2>Mina Shirikala tag teamed with Mariah may Say and Reform

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<v Speaker 2>Rose Gold, Tony Storm could get.

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<v Speaker 1>Her own partner.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and I dare say it, what about getting Thunderstorm

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very interesting idea.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought, again, it doesn't mean that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see a feud bereft of titles, but I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to see some feuds or stories built around non title matches,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, And with with as many people as

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<v Speaker 3>they have on the roster, you don't have enough title

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. To have nothing but titles and fuse

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<v Speaker 3>for titles, you have to start setting up some fuse

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<v Speaker 3>outside of that. You know. The one thing I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of find would be a great story in the heavyweight

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<v Speaker 3>title championship would be a he hasn't done it yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but would be a Christian cashing in his chance at

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<v Speaker 3>the title and Lucasaurus taking it from him winning the

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<v Speaker 3>title just for the here. It would be cool to

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<v Speaker 3>see happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, Yeah, I mean, I mean again, it's weird because

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<v Speaker 2>we've got all out coming on. So I have a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that we're going to see Giadaparazzo and thunder Rosa

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<v Speaker 2>and have their what their Walter thirteenth batch. Now we're

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<v Speaker 2>definitely going to see Roderick Strong and Conglomeration and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>because God forbid we we have a show without them.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know who's Mercedes Monette good at Battle Against?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we have no the only how do I

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<v Speaker 2>put this, The only story that she's had over the

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<v Speaker 2>last several months as he's been here, was briefly with

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like it was going to be Mercedes Monet

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<v Speaker 2>and Julia Harp, but then Julia got injured, so Willow

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<v Speaker 2>Nightingale had to step in. Is if Julia Hart comes back,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's what we get for All Out, But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't kind of don't want to see that for All

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<v Speaker 2>Out because I don't think there's enough time to build

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<v Speaker 2>the story there, and it's certainly not enough time for

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<v Speaker 2>Julia to get her wrestling legs back under her either.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see a good match with Mercedes Monette,

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<v Speaker 2>not something that's thrown together. I wouldn't mind if Mercedes

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<v Speaker 2>Monet did not defend the title at All Out. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind if Mercedes Mode and Camille were tag team

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<v Speaker 2>partners at All Out and feuded against somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>What would be kind of nice for All Out would

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<v Speaker 3>be if none of the titles were actually on the line,

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<v Speaker 3>except for we know that the other only match we

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<v Speaker 3>know about is the Statlander versus for the.

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<v Speaker 1>The what is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the only other match we know for sure

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<v Speaker 3>for al Out. We don't know the stipulation for it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But is it?

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<v Speaker 2>But is it? Is it? Is it a CMLL title match?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, ye believe it is.

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<v Speaker 4>World title match up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that Will is going to

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<v Speaker 3>lose hopefully, but uh, you know, it would be kind

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<v Speaker 3>of nice to see people who didn't participate in all

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<v Speaker 3>in just have some matches, some good, good matches, because again,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the second year in a row. It's too

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<v Speaker 3>close together. At least we got an extra week this

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<v Speaker 3>year year, But this is this is kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>ridiculous way to do a pay per view two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>after your big pay per view.

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<v Speaker 1>With no build up to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're gonna get two weeks, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>So does anybody else any else have any ideas for

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<v Speaker 2>something for the All Out card that they'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>suggest or even see.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, uh, maybe a tag team number one contenders matched,

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<v Speaker 4>Like if we're assuming that the acclaimed an FTR and

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<v Speaker 4>knocked down the list, we get like Top Flight and

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<v Speaker 4>Private Party or some other team, the Iron Savages, someone

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<v Speaker 4>new when the tag team division. I think that could

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<v Speaker 4>be a good match at all out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, look, the problem with that is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to come off as pompous here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna buy a pay per view to see

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<v Speaker 1>the Iron Savages?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>That is a fair fact.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends.

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<v Speaker 3>It depend on if they put enough effort into it

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<v Speaker 3>to make it worth you. If you put Private Party

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<v Speaker 3>and Iron Savages in the Grizzled Young Vets and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>one or two other good, good young tag teams in it,

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<v Speaker 3>you ain't making a very good match. It could be

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<v Speaker 3>worth it. It just depends on who.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk about the Grizzled Young Vets for a

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<v Speaker 2>second here. Okay, who are they? Most people in aw

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<v Speaker 2>fan hub don't know. Uh, a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 2>know who they are. It's as simple as that huge mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Grizzledjung Vets are not going to sell pay per viewer

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, I don't know what your opinion is,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going to pay to see Grizzled Young Vets.

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<v Speaker 2>I pay to see somebody else for sure. Don't really

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<v Speaker 2>give a damn about the Grizzled Young Vets. They haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, and I think this goes I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>We kind of talked about all out, But do you guys,

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<v Speaker 4>are you on the camp that you believe that was

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<v Speaker 4>the spot for the guns. They were supposed to show

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<v Speaker 4>up and come out after the match and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have the guns and FTR and the Bucks all together,

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<v Speaker 4>And they just went and with the Grizzled Young Bets

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<v Speaker 4>because the guns weren't available.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they did it that way because they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to introduce a new team. Hell, we could have Bobby

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<v Speaker 3>Lashly and those guys show up tomorrow night and add

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<v Speaker 3>a new tag team that could be involved. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the problem with doing this. That's the biggest problem

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<v Speaker 3>I have with them right now is we have way

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<v Speaker 3>too much up in the air for such a short

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<v Speaker 3>turnaround to the next pay per view. I still think

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<v Speaker 3>they should move this to the end of the month

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<v Speaker 3>and make it the end of September instead of the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of September, so that you have more time to

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<v Speaker 3>build up because you're coming off with something that ended

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<v Speaker 3>some feuse and ended some stories and now you have

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to build one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, don't forget they did already set up Darby Allen

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<v Speaker 2>for Grand Slam, which is next month. Uh. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you do have Christian Cage with a title shot, a

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<v Speaker 2>guaranteed title shot.

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<v Speaker 3>How many people actually think Christian Cage is gonna win

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<v Speaker 3>the world title?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we think Christian Cage won't do a lot,

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<v Speaker 6>and he keeps doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he keeps doing, but I don't know, I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't see Christian Cage holding the world title.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say I never would have thought I would

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<v Speaker 4>say TNT Champion Christian Cage.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>He keeps doing a lot of things that nobody thinks

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<v Speaker 6>he's gonna do, so I would not say never.

426
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeh.

427
00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.759
<v Speaker 2>What I would play up here is, Look, Brian Danielson

428
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.559
<v Speaker 2>and Christian Cage did have a match in October twenty

429
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:06.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty three for the T and T title, which at

430
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:10.119
<v Speaker 2>the time was held by Christian Cage. It was a

431
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 2>great match that Brian Danielson was on the verge of winning,

432
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 2>but then Big Bill, who at the time was won

433
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 2>half of the the aw Tag Team Champions with Ricky Starks.

434
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Big Bill came out and caused a distraction which allowed

435
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Ricky Starks to literally dive into the ring in one

436
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:36.799
<v Speaker 2>fell swoop hit Brian Danielson across the head and knocked

437
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.720
<v Speaker 2>him out, and Christian Cage got the win. So it

438
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:44.000
<v Speaker 2>was a Christian Cage victory, but it wasn't a clean victory,

439
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and I think that they need to play up that

440
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:54.400
<v Speaker 2>angle where Brian Danielson is pissed off at Christian Cage

441
00:26:54.480 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 2>for that and build a story around that particular ular thing.

442
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I want to go ahead and talk about Dynamite because

443
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>this is an interesting little show, and I want to

444
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>specifically talk about the match that I'm dreading and looking

445
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:29.200
<v Speaker 2>forward to, honestly because of something that actually Sutton said earlier,

446
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.359
<v Speaker 2>and I am talking about the eight man All Star

447
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Tag team match where on one side you've got the conglobration.

448
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>The word of the day is overused against the Learning

449
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Tree and Rodert Strong for whatever reason. When this match

450
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>was announced, it got a lot of pushback on Twitter,

451
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>which actually made Tony Kahn respond to it he said,

452
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 2>trust me, guys. Basically, I don't know what he said,

453
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>but he's like, fruss be guys, I know what I'm

454
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 2>doing here. You're not going to be disappointed when you

455
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>have to legitimize your own booking.

456
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Like that. You know it's shit booking.

457
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot more people than just me are

458
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 2>sick and tired to see in the same shit every

459
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>week with these same guys.

460
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Come on seriously.

461
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>And what I meant when I said that, what else

462
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Sutton said was you brought up the Hurt Syndicate, which

463
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 2>is what they're called, Bobby Lapsley, MVP Centric, Alexander whomever.

464
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is the point where they come out and

465
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>they get involved in match. Maybe this is the point

466
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>because because Tony Kahn is alluding to something there, He's

467
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 2>alluding to, Okay, this isn't just going to be another

468
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 2>one of these mats, these boring as ship matches that

469
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:10.240
<v Speaker 2>he puts on every goddamn week. We see Roderick Strong,

470
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and we see Orange Cassidy and we see Kyle O'Reilly.

471
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 2>It's getting all it's it's not getting old, it's ben old.

472
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry it has.

473
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 3>You have you this.

474
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Roll ups, Wait a minute.

475
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Hold on, now you see who the opponents are against

476
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 3>the conglomeration. Correct, it's it's the Learning Tree and Roderick

477
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Strong versus the Conglomeration. What's the match? At the end

478
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 3>of the hook match, big Bill got hit by Jericho.

479
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>This could be the end of the Learning Tree tomorrow night.

480
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 3>There could be the mask gets started, they start going

481
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.799
<v Speaker 3>at it, and then all of a sudden, Big Bill

482
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 3>and the Bad Apple turn on your Ericho and they

483
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 3>end Jericho's Learning Tree, which could be a big deal.

484
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that would be a lot of people want

485
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.359
<v Speaker 3>to see that go. So that could be what happens

486
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:10.920
<v Speaker 3>tomorrow night.

487
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, what are you gonna do about Roderick?

488
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh, Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly and Orange Cassidy.

489
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Why are we going to end that?

490
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, hopefully that's I mean, they're gonna use those guys

491
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 3>together for a while. But like I've said before about

492
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 3>Roderick Strong and the Kingdom, they need to go to

493
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Roh and stay there. They don't belong in eat ae W.

494
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 3>They're not strong enough to carry aw anymore. They weren't.

495
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.920
<v Speaker 3>They were a joke when they were the They had

496
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 3>the titles and they're just filler now. I mean, seriously,

497
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:46.240
<v Speaker 3>they if they get rid of Roderick Strong, you won't

498
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 3>have as much with the conglomeration because it seems that

499
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 3>the he's the only thing they're used for.

500
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Well I'm just saying is that, And I don't know

501
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>if you agree with me, but when you look at

502
00:30:54.960 --> 00:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>the conglomeration, you look at undisputed Kingdom Ardie necessary Kingdom

503
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 2>as I call it, it's it's basically I mean, this

504
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 2>is like the seventy third match that they've had, you know, together,

505
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I agree with you, point what is the

506
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 2>point this match?

507
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 3>It's like we've said all along. You know, you have

508
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 3>such a huge loster. Using the same guys week in

509
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.880
<v Speaker 3>and week out for every show makes no sense, absolutely

510
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 3>no sense. You have them once a week, once a month.

511
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 3>You get rotating. Tony needs to start rotating his usage

512
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>of people, because there are people we haven't seen in ages.

513
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 6>When I started, oh sorry, no good oh. When I

514
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 6>started that conversation, I asked a question on Reddit about

515
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 6>that seeing other people. Especially leading up to the pay

516
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 6>per view, a lot of people were of the mind

517
00:31:55.240 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 6>that a w still had to sell tickets and you

518
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 6>weren't going to sell tickets by putting people who didn't

519
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 6>have big names into matches. So it seems kind of

520
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 6>like a catch twenty two. Either you put these big

521
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 6>names out there every week, or I guess Tony Kahan

522
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 6>and everybody else who runs the show is worried that

523
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 6>they won't fill the seat.

524
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Well that okay, Look, I'm ben a counteract that I'm

525
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>an a counter come up with a counterpoint to that

526
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>aw has not been filling the seats and the why

527
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 2>let me put it this way, I'm a big aaw fan.

528
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm the host of the aw fan up subreddit. You know,

529
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm co founder of the subreddit, am the host of

530
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 2>the podcast. I I absolutely do not see Roderick Strong,

531
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Kyle O'Reilly, Orange, Cassidy, Chris Jericho as a selling point

532
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>to buy it for me to buy a ticket.

533
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the rest of you feel.

534
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.839
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm looking at a car and I'm like, oh,

535
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>they're there again, so I mean, I'm.

536
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 7>Sorry, but I what could they possibly do in this

537
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 7>match other than a run in that somebody comes in

538
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 7>and cleaves clocks?

539
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, but if this.

540
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Is a straight up match, what could they possibly do

541
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>that would make this different for the last twenty five

542
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 2>times that we see them in the last twenty five weeks.

543
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:43.200
<v Speaker 6>The only thing, the only thing I was hoping for

544
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 6>during the pay per view was when Tyle O'Reilly ran in,

545
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 6>was that he just kept on running. So if they

546
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 6>did something like that, if he just ran to the ring,

547
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 6>ran through the ring and just kept going, and other

548
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 6>than that, I don't see it.

549
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 3>So you could return some with Joe tomorrow night. I

550
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 3>mean that's possible. Uh, there's a lot of possibility. But

551
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 3>you're right, You're absolutely right, And and I disagree with

552
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 3>that whole You have that big name stars on the

553
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:19.559
<v Speaker 3>on the pay per view. You just had the big

554
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 3>name stars on a pay per view two weeks later.

555
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Having another star filled pay per view is too rushed.

556
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.320
<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of people that they've that have

557
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 3>been brought into this company that don't get used. And

558
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 3>you will sell tickets, put it in a smaller venue,

559
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 3>put it as a as a you know that. That's

560
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.639
<v Speaker 3>part of the reason why Tony Kahn is having such

561
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:44.239
<v Speaker 3>issues right now with that is because he uses the

562
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 3>same people too much and he's not giving everybody the

563
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 3>same amount of chance that he should. I just I

564
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 3>just think that that that that whole here, you have

565
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 3>to have the biggest stars on the pay per view

566
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:55.360
<v Speaker 3>to sell it. I don't buy that.

567
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I would much rather see I would much rather see

568
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Camille than Orange Cassidy at all. Out me too, you know,

569
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to see somebody that has potential afforded the

570
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to live up to upper potential. It's preposterous to

571
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 2>me that we're seeing whole shows. I'm not even talking

572
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 2>pay per views. I'm talking dynamite collision rampage. We're having

573
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.800
<v Speaker 2>fifteen minute blocks of every single show and every single

574
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 2>week that dedicated to the same guys.

575
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Over and over.

576
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 2>And what's worse is they're doing the same thing over

577
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and over. There's no or I can't really say no.

578
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.840
<v Speaker 2>It's very rare that they're doing a match. How many

579
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>times we're going to see the conglomeration against the same entities.

580
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're doing the same thing over and over

581
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and over again. I use the term groundhog day, like

582
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>the movie on dog Day with Bill Murray. When it

583
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>comes to this particular group, I feel like I'm stuck

584
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>in groundhog Day.

585
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wwe repeat and rerun, re repeat and redo everything

586
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 3>the same all the time, and then they wonder why

587
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 3>their numbers are down. They wonder why they're struggling to

588
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 3>do this, that and the other. And that's exactly what

589
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 3>happened to the WWE when they broke up the Shield.

590
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 3>They started doing every match the same. Every time you

591
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.559
<v Speaker 3>watch the show was the same. And we're starting to

592
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 3>get that into aw And I don't know if it's

593
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 3>just that Tony doesn't recognize it or the fact, like

594
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I've said before, where he plans things out so far

595
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 3>in advance, and he's proven over time that he's not

596
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 3>able to change real he's not able to move quick

597
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 3>on his feet sometimes, and that could be a part

598
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 3>of the problem too.

599
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Well.

600
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 4>I think that the conglomeration, and by that I just

601
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to add Roddy to it because he's been

602
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 4>tenjenly attached to this group the whole time. I think

603
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 4>the main problem is that that is the feud, and

604
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.800
<v Speaker 4>we're just getting a reshuffle of all the guys there.

605
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 4>So we'll have Hologram who's part of the team one week,

606
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 4>or we have the Beast Mortos who's on the heel

607
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 4>team this week. Or well, it's it's still this group

608
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 4>of guys that it seems like there's no direction for

609
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 4>so we're just going to cram them all together and

610
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 4>random order week after week after week after week after week.

611
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 4>And now, I mean you can hear us, we've all

612
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:29.559
<v Speaker 4>kind of grown sick of it.

613
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like adding a different narrator to the same

614
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:39.519
<v Speaker 2>story every week. Yes, way I could to explain it.

615
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just boring. So let's move on to

616
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.719
<v Speaker 2>something that's maybe a little bit more I'm kind of

617
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>excited about it. Is Ricochet and Kyle Fletcher making an

618
00:37:53.360 --> 00:38:00.360
<v Speaker 2>appearance on Dynamite with Ricochet's in ring Dynamite debut. This

619
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 2>is this could be interesting because Kyle Fletcher's buddies with

620
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Will Osprey. Ricochet is buddies with real will Osprey. So

621
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 2>although will Osprey is kind of played it up that

622
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't like Ricochet that much, but we'll see.

623
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you excited to see Ricochet?

624
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Very excited to see Ricochet. I do have a spicy

625
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 4>prediction though, I think it uh Ricochet turns heel and

626
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.719
<v Speaker 4>aligns himself with Don Kallas and they kick out Kyle Fletcher.

627
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, very interesting. We'll have to. If that happens, we'll

628
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.039
<v Speaker 1>get to give you props.

629
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 3>We can't keep having everybody turn heel. They an't come in,

630
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.320
<v Speaker 3>they do his thing, don't adding, don't add him. He

631
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 3>doesn't need Don Kallas. There's no need for Don Kellis

632
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.000
<v Speaker 3>to have him.

633
00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Don.

634
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Callas is gonna have to kick out Kyle Fletcher. I

635
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 3>think that once once uh Osprey settles down, and if

636
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 3>anybody have any idea when Fletcher's partner's coming back, anybody heard.

637
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Anything, I have not heard a word. I did look

638
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.039
<v Speaker 2>it up a few weeks ago, and it just there's

639
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>nothing to be said about who was it.

640
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 3>There was somebody during the broadcast of the pay per

641
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 3>view that mentioned him but called him his former partner,

642
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 3>So that kind of found a little odd because he's

643
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.719
<v Speaker 3>just hurt. It's not like the team broke up. They

644
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.960
<v Speaker 3>just he's been out. So if you hear that kind

645
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 3>of stuff, you know it's I think that Osprey's going

646
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.920
<v Speaker 3>to I think that they're going to kick Fletcher out,

647
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 3>but I think it's going to be of his own choice,

648
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.719
<v Speaker 3>and he's going to join uh Osprey and then possibly

649
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:51.000
<v Speaker 3>bring in Ricochet to add to the United.

650
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Empire. Yeah, that's it.

651
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 3>There so many United I can't remember which one which,

652
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.360
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I think that's what's gonna happen. Hopefully they

653
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 3>don't turn somebody else immediately into a heel. That's just

654
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 3>way too much.

655
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I did make a graphic last week where I had Ricochet,

656
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Fletcher, Well Osbury and somebody else. I can't remember

657
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.159
<v Speaker 2>who I put into graphic to be honest with you

658
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 2>right now, but I did have them reforming the United Empire.

659
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 6>Allie's painting isn't complete, don't forget.

660
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 4>So who knows Hobb's put on Twitter that he's coming

661
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 4>back soon.

662
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's that's very true.

663
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that.

664
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.679
<v Speaker 2>If you get like Kyle Fletcher and even Ricochet as

665
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a tag I would rather that that grizzled young Vets.

666
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not invested in them at all. I mean,

667
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>they just seem like a slightly better outrunners to me.

668
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's where I look at it.

669
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 3>They could just be the spark, you know what I mean,

670
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.679
<v Speaker 3>They could just be the first group that is there

671
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 3>to represent the newest parts of the tag team division

672
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.159
<v Speaker 3>that needs Honestly, we all know it needs rebuilt. It's

673
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:20.039
<v Speaker 3>pretty much become shit, and hopefully that might just be

674
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 3>the first beginning of it.

675
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, we just saw the Box defeat the Acclaimed and FDR,

676
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 2>so they definitely need to build somebody else because FDR

677
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>and the Acclaimed aren't hanging it, They're not hacking it.

678
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 6>Is anyone excited about the von Erics at all?

679
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about them, I am, but they're they're

680
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>a rig of honor.

681
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>They should be at rig of Honor.

682
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, but I mean, we can be excited.

683
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I saw them for the first time in the in

684
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 3>the pre show, and I'm gonna tell you what, I

685
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 3>can't remember which one it is, the bigger one. He's

686
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 3>pretty big, and he's pretty.

687
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Good in the rings.

688
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 3>From what I've seen of him so far, I think

689
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 3>they actually have a chance to be something sometimes.

690
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and you've got Semi Gavara there, you know.

691
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 2>And I think Sammy's doing really, really well. You know,

692
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:23.159
<v Speaker 2>he's wrestled a few times on Ring of Honor. His

693
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 2>personality is coming through. He's out from under Chris Jericho, which,

694
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 2>as I believe, is exactly what he wanted, and so

695
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to that. The only thing I'm looking

696
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>forward to I think you're gonna see Jamie Hater and

697
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Sorea at all out, which, frankly, I'd like to see that,

698
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I really would. It's something different, and it's a stepping stone,

699
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 2>let's face it, but Cater against Harley Cameron, and Harley

700
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Cameron has gone from being and I hate to say this,

701
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.079
<v Speaker 2>but she was kind of like ring dressing. I guess

702
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.239
<v Speaker 2>it's the best way to put it. She was comic relief.

703
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.320
<v Speaker 2>She's actually pretty damn good in the ring, and I'm

704
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>glad that she's getting her chances to earn her spot.

705
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, sure, she's going through a tough time as

706
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 2>far as in the wind Lost column, but hey, so

707
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 2>did Sky Blue, so did Julia Hart, and they elevated

708
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 2>themselves through hard work. I can't stress how impressed I

709
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 2>am with Harley Cameron's ring work. She's doing a lot

710
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:47.239
<v Speaker 2>better than I expected. Jamie Hater, Gosh, it's just going

711
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:50.079
<v Speaker 2>to be great to see her wrestling.

712
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it me?

713
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Or does it look like she's in much much better shape,

714
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 2>not that she was in mad shape before. She looks

715
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>she just looks like she could do somersaults, where before

716
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 2>she looked like a bruiser. Nothing wrong with that, but

717
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 2>now she looks more athletic, I guess, is what I'm saying. Yeah,

718
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I think she's.

719
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 3>I think she's definitely it's the time for her to

720
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 3>come back and it'll be nice to see her in

721
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.920
<v Speaker 3>the ring. And to me, it just makes the current

722
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.719
<v Speaker 3>situation in the women's division. I can't really explain what

723
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I want to say here because it has diversity and

724
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.840
<v Speaker 3>pulls it'll further for me, pulls it further away from

725
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 3>what they think it is now because for whatever reason,

726
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 3>to me, the way they did the women's title and

727
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 3>the TBS title on Sunday, they kind of tried to

728
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.239
<v Speaker 3>say that the TBS title is more important than the

729
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 3>women's title. But from the matches, there was no comparison,

730
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.920
<v Speaker 3>not one big comparison. The women's The TBS title with

731
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Monet and Bart and Baker got absolutely no crowd reaction,

732
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:06.280
<v Speaker 3>very very little. There were nobody standing up. The only

733
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 3>time they stood up in that match was when Camille

734
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 3>got sent off.

735
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 1>That was it.

736
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 3>If you go back and watch the replay of that match,

737
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 3>everybody sitting, hardly anybody's cheering, but the women's match, it

738
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 3>was everybody was into it. I don't know. I just

739
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping that.

740
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I totally disagree with you. I totally disagree with you.

741
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I watched both matches and I thought they both got

742
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:34.440
<v Speaker 2>save reactions. I think you're looking at it with rose

743
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:35.559
<v Speaker 2>colored glasses.

744
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 3>I was just watching the match and watching the people

745
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.039
<v Speaker 3>behind it in the in the camera view, and they

746
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 3>all were sitting And the only time I saw him

747
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:44.599
<v Speaker 3>get up was when Hate when when Camille got sent off,

748
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 3>and a couple of three in the back towards the

749
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Speaker 3>end of the first row or the main rows there

750
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.119
<v Speaker 3>did the d M D thing once, But other than that,

751
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see anybody. They didn't even cheer when she

752
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 3>got when when they got handled the title again, they

753
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 3>just sat there. But that's just what I saw.

754
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think it has a lot to do

755
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:04.760
<v Speaker 2>also with the story.

756
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Just stop being very compelling.

757
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think it was trying to say that

758
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 4>the TVs title was more invalid. I think when you're

759
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:17.039
<v Speaker 4>looking at the layout of the show, there are two

760
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 4>very big matches with will Ospury and MJF and then

761
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 4>the main event are title match, and some match needed

762
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 4>to go in the middle. So let's not put the

763
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.920
<v Speaker 4>match with the best story in that spot, so the

764
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 4>crowd can be enthused about that earlier in the show.

765
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I think it has more to do with Mercedes Monet is.

766
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>How I put this.

767
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Tony Kahn's expensive newer toy, and he wanted it because

768
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:57.800
<v Speaker 2>she's a quote unquote name that has worldwide appeal. I

769
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.119
<v Speaker 2>believe that Tony con thinks he can put Mercedes Monet

770
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>in the ring with anybody and it would sell. That

771
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 2>is not the case. You have to sell it, and

772
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 2>this just wasn't sold, and it was.

773
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:16.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just Britt Baker.

774
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Is a star, but she's a star for other reasons

775
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:26.639
<v Speaker 2>that are that are wrestling. If that makes sense to me,

776
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Baker needs a tag team partner to be.

777
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

778
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I just don't see Baker as a singles wrestler. And

779
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.760
<v Speaker 2>you're only as good as your opponent, and at a

780
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>one on one singles match, Baker can't hang with Monette. Now,

781
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 2>if it was a tag team, I do believe Baker

782
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>can hang because she has a tag team wrestling style.

783
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 2>To me, I don't see Baker is a singles wrestler. Yes,

784
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 2>she was the former women's champion, but when she was

785
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.639
<v Speaker 2>the women's champion. The aw's women's division looks a whole

786
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>hell of a lot different. And I will say this

787
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and I need this. If it was Sida in that match,

788
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 2>it would have been perfectly slotted right where it was

789
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:30.000
<v Speaker 2>because you have two big names in that match. To me,

790
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Baker is not the name that she once was.

791
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 4>I fully agree, and I'm kind of scared that the

792
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 4>hidas I'm coming back for the women's division, I'm coming

793
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.519
<v Speaker 4>back for the women's division, will turn into her being

794
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.320
<v Speaker 4>Mercedes next fewd and I don't think she takes it

795
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 4>from Mercedes.

796
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of people, and I don't know

797
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 2>how you feel about this. I've seen a lot of

798
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.719
<v Speaker 2>people express opinions that she'da is going to be doing

799
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:06.480
<v Speaker 2>a heel turn.

800
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 3>When you can look at it this way, she just

801
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 3>been a three time women's champion. Mercedes just come in

802
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.760
<v Speaker 3>and been given everything she'd been given. I am not

803
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:19.840
<v Speaker 3>impressed with her in the ring. Like I said before,

804
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:23.199
<v Speaker 3>She's just exactly what I expected from a WWE trained

805
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:29.039
<v Speaker 3>woman to come into aw She has some skill, it's

806
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.199
<v Speaker 3>not that great because she didn't have that much to

807
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.639
<v Speaker 3>work with in ANWWE. The man was about the only

808
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 3>one there that would be able to survive on the

809
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 3>aw roster and be impressive. She'dah comes in. She just

810
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.920
<v Speaker 3>should either, I would see she'da going after the women's

811
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 3>title again instead of going after the TBS title, because

812
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:52.639
<v Speaker 3>to me, the TBS title is your second fiddle title

813
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 3>and she doesn't need that title. She needs to be

814
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:57.320
<v Speaker 3>put back into the women's division. If she turns seal,

815
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 3>she turns seal. Everybody else does, so why not she Yeah.

816
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>To think about it.

817
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys will agree with me

818
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>on this, but the thing about Monette that I am

819
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 2>the most impressed with is that she doesn't phone it in.

820
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:15.559
<v Speaker 2>She really works to make her opponent look good, and

821
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate that he works her ass off. There

822
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 2>were moments in that brit Baker Mercedes Boname match at

823
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 2>All in where Mercedes literally put herself at risk to

824
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 2>try to make Baker look good, and I appreciate that.

825
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 3>That's so funny that you say that, but that's true.

826
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, I've said it before and I

827
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 3>hate saying it all the time, but Baker doesn't deserve

828
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:44.719
<v Speaker 3>to be anywhere near your title because she hasn't proved

829
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 3>herself to be able to be at one. You could

830
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 3>have put anybody in that match. It would have been

831
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:51.760
<v Speaker 3>a better match. You could have put Lady Ice in

832
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.320
<v Speaker 3>that match, and it would have been a better match.

833
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:59.679
<v Speaker 3>But agad Ice, what's her name, that's what's her name?

834
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Lady front lady.

835
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you need to have the roster right

836
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>in front of your face when you do.

837
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, the point is it would have been a better match.

838
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 3>But you know, again, I don't Sheidah could be a

839
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 3>huge champion as a face. And last week we talked

840
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.760
<v Speaker 3>about how the fans determine what that person is. They're

841
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 3>going to cheer for Shidah whether she's a healer or face.

842
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:31.800
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter because everybody, all the aw fans love

843
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Chidah because she she does what she does. She comes

844
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.119
<v Speaker 3>in the ring, like you said about money, she puts

845
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 3>everything into her matches. I have never seen a match

846
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:43.000
<v Speaker 3>where she has come in and said I don't want

847
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.159
<v Speaker 3>to feel like wrestling tonight, let me just let this

848
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:49.039
<v Speaker 3>person win or whatever. So you know, I don't know,

849
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 3>We'll see what happens, but I would rather see her

850
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 3>go for.

851
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 2>The main title. Well, let's look at something else here.

852
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I had brought up, you know, the reformation of Tony

853
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Tony Storm and thunder Rosa, you know Thunderstorm. But that's

854
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 2>just one option. You know. Again, if if we do

855
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 2>have a women's tag title announced, that is definitely a

856
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:19.800
<v Speaker 2>great team to have. But beyond that, what's next for

857
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Tony's Storm.

858
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.880
<v Speaker 4>I hope Tony takes a break. We we don't see

859
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 4>Tony Storm for a little while and Mariah can be

860
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.719
<v Speaker 4>a strong champion because then you know, everyone's going to

861
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 4>lose their mind when that music hids.

862
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Did you see the Did you see what Tony Storm

863
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 2>did after the match against Mariah may Uh? They showed her.

864
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 2>She they did a black and white little vignette back

865
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 2>there at all In and she basically walked backstage and

866
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.559
<v Speaker 2>just kept on walk as she hopped over, went outside,

867
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 2>hopped over the barrier and just started walking the streets

868
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.559
<v Speaker 2>of London here with Luthor behind her.

869
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Renee Piquette said that if you didn't watch the media scrum,

870
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 3>they had a little thing with her and RJ, and

871
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 3>they did a whole thing about what happened after the match,

872
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.039
<v Speaker 3>and they said she just took off and kept going

873
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:20.440
<v Speaker 3>and they said that Luther was frantically running after trying

874
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.679
<v Speaker 3>to stop her. I hope with Tony Storm. I don't

875
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.239
<v Speaker 3>hope she disappears. I just hope she takes some time

876
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:29.639
<v Speaker 3>out of the ring and goes full meltdown, because that's

877
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:32.400
<v Speaker 3>where her character was leading to when this whole thing

878
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.519
<v Speaker 3>started breaking down. I'm hoping that's what they do, and

879
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:38.039
<v Speaker 3>when she comes back, she comes back as Tony Storm,

880
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:43.280
<v Speaker 3>not the scarlet Tony Storm. Yeah.

881
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:45.719
<v Speaker 2>But okay, so let me ask you guys a question. So,

882
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 2>now Tony Storm is no longer the women's champion, Mariah

883
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.840
<v Speaker 2>May is the women's world champion.

884
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of Maria Man.

885
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 3>In the build up to this whole thing, when she

886
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 3>was having the she was with with Tony Storm, I

887
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 3>thought she was much more believable. I think when they

888
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 3>did the breakaway, they did it too soon. It kind

889
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 3>of lost I mean, that story was still good, but

890
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:17.360
<v Speaker 3>it kind of lost some of it there. I think

891
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 3>she's a good wrestler. We're just gonna have to see

892
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.079
<v Speaker 3>how she works with other people.

893
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's kind of what I'm curious about. I'm trying

894
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 4>to think of like babyfaces that could so we have

895
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:32.519
<v Speaker 4>thunder rows up, maybe Serena deeb. But who's ready and

896
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:35.400
<v Speaker 4>rare and to go to be a believable challenger right now?

897
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

898
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Nott, do you have any who? What do

899
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you think of Mariah May? And who do you think

900
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 2>is next for Mariah May?

901
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.800
<v Speaker 6>I like her, I you know, I don't hate her.

902
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.679
<v Speaker 6>I like her pretty much. I can see her and

903
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:03.119
<v Speaker 6>thunder Rose. I think they would be good against each other.

904
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 5>Mmmm.

905
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

906
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 6>She's got quite a few people on the women's roster

907
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 6>to choose from, but I'd like to see her in

908
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 6>thunder Rosa against one another develop a little something there.

909
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 6>Then thunder Rosa has been missing for a little while

910
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 6>and I'm miss seeing her, so I'd like to get

911
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:24.599
<v Speaker 6>that going.

912
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're gonna see, you know what, all out.

913
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I could see Thunderosa and Diata Parozzo. I could see

914
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:36.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of I think all that's gonna be a

915
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.840
<v Speaker 2>women's showcase. To be honest with you, I think you're

916
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 2>gonna see some women's matches that all out. I mean

917
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.039
<v Speaker 2>we're already. I think you're gonna see obviously, you're gonna

918
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 2>see stat Lander and Willow Nightingale, I do think you're

919
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:57.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna see Parozzo and h and thunder Rosa. I wouldn't

920
00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:01.280
<v Speaker 2>be shocked if you saw Mercedes Bonet against somebody probably

921
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, I really do hope that it's a

922
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 2>tag match, so you would see four women in that match.

923
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:11.880
<v Speaker 2>So I really do think that you're gonna see a

924
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:16.159
<v Speaker 2>lot more women's participation on the main show and all

925
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 2>out that you did and all in. It's gonna be

926
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.159
<v Speaker 2>almost Forbidden doorsh Remember we had four women's matches and

927
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Forbidden Door, So I think it's gonna be kind of

928
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the same kind of thing.

929
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Whatever gets some new faces on TV. I'm four, I mean,

930
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 4>and he said you'd miss seeing thunder Rosa, but even

931
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.320
<v Speaker 4>seeing Taya Valkyrie. She played a role in the thunder

932
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Rosa Deanna Paroff's a feud. So I'd like to see more.

933
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness, I of Alkyray.

934
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see. In all honesty, I would

935
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 2>love to see Mercedes Bonett and Camille against Athena and

936
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Billy Starr work. I would just think that would be

937
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a great match.

938
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:06.920
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

939
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening, guys. This is Kelson. Good night, everybody,

940
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.880
<v Speaker 1>not everybody, good night. Eddie Kingston,
