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everyone back to the Pecanana Show. Sebastian from Anelo Pill

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is here. How are you doing, Sebastian, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing very well. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Cool. Tell everybody a little bit about yourself as much

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as you as much as you're willing to give.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Well, I have been working for Lapill for

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a couple of years now, and I recently became the

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editor in chief, and it's been a very rewarding journey.

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It's a job that I absolutely love doing, have a

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lot of passion for. So, as I'm sure your listeners know,

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you guys we're interested in talking about with Danunzia and Fiume.

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So I read this book recently and I think it

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is a very fascinating case study of a piece of

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history that we actually don't know very much about it.

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And in fact, I didn't know very much about it

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until we decided to publish it, and I had to,

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you know, kind of read through it from to get

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this thing out the door. So it's about so there

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was a poet and an aviator like a veteran in

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the Italian army during the First World War named Gabrielle D'Annunzio.

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And in the aftermath of the First World War, as

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I'm sure a lot of you historically literate people know,

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Europe was basically carved up very differently than it was

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before the war started, and naturally, not everybody felt very

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warm and tingly about this, to say the least. As

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a matter of fact, there was a lot of your

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identist feelings in Italy specifically where the victorious power is

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actually carved up what was once Italy, and they took

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this coastal city which is now in Croatia at the time,

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it's called for you May, and they gave it to

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what is essentially not like like I said, Croatia, but

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it was populated largely by ethnic Italians. And this this

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anger Denudesio and a lot of his his loyal men,

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the the Rditi as they were called. They were actually

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basically the first shot troops of the First World War,

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alongside the more well known German stormtroopers. Actually I think

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they're a little bit underrated, if you ask me so.

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So Danuzzio took a bevy of his ardity and marched

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right into for You Make It, said, this is mine. Now,

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We're not going to let We're not going to let

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this get handed over to a foreign power. There's no

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way this is an Italian city and we're not going

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to let it happen. And he actually petitioned the Italian government, said, hey,

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I've taken the city. All you have to do is

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just annex it like I've already done all the heavy lifting.

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Just just just signed the paperwork. And of course they

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weren't super thrilled about the as they you know, kind

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of filled a knife on their neck from the victorious

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Allied powers to okay, let's maybe we'll just see what happens.

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And anyway, so long story short, that occupation lasted for

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a few months before it came to an end. But

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it's there's a lot of fun bumpastics that happened in

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the meantime. So that was kind of a fun little

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intro for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that a lot of that happened in World War One.

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After World War One, I was reading recently. It's a

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little known diary by Anna eisen Manger called Blockade. And

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she was middle to middle upper class woman in uh

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in Austria and in Vienna. And yeah, just what she

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talked about there about how how checks got part of

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Germany and Italians were actually controlling part of Germany too,

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and the kind of of the way they were treated

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the Germans who lived the Yeah, and she considered herself

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even though she lived and she considered herself a German.

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way that Germans weren't being treated that, yeah, just because

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this treaty decided to carve things up, and you know,

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as she she even made the point that it seemed

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like this was done to create chaos. And I think

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we use this kind of thing, the kind of thing

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we see today with like the way they do immigration,

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where it seems like the immigration but there's many reasons

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for the immigration, but one of them is just chaos.

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even that different from each other, and even that was

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enough to cause problems. Now today we decided it's a

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great idea to drag as many people that are as

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unlike each other as possible and throw them all into

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one geographic area.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have people who historically have lived next

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to each other and you know pretty much, can you

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start doing genetic testing? Yeah, we're well, we're pretty close. Yeah.

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so I've been around Haitians, as around Haitians for a

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lot of years. So as soon as I saw what

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they were doing, you know, and even here in Alabama,

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I was like, all right, this is this could be

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the thing that puts people over the edge because there's nobody.

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They haven't brought anyone up. I mean, Somalis in Minnesota.

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In Minneapolis are you know, if you gunns ahead, you

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have to make a choice to live around them or

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live around Haitians. I'm gonna live around the Somalis because

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I don't think people understand. I don't think people understand exactly,

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you know, the how just how different the Haitian population is.

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even even back then, you were still going to have

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tensions between people who were Polish and people who were

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who were German, just because you know, it's cousin instead

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of brother kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It's interesting. Yeah. You know, Haitians have been

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in the news a bit lately with the happening since Springfield, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the I've been all over that and the

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when you so like the way Czechoslovakia took over certain

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parts of Austria and Germany after after World War One

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and just basically started to wreck there. There was no there,

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started raping the forests and the forest deforestation and you know,

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just treating treating the the people native to that land.

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That Yeah, dropping twenty thousand, and I've heard from people

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up there who say it's more into a town of

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fifty thousand that was already suffering, and not only dropping

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them in there, but giving them wads of cash and

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claiming that this is what is you know, this is

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what's going to fix the economy, when they could have

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just given the people, the white people in Springfield that

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money to fix the economy. Yeah, you have to think

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there's something there's something really wrong. And I guess that's

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something that Dinanzio felt too, is like, if you're going

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to if things are going to start getting carved up,

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then somebody should probably do something about it. At this point,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's funny how many parallels there are even today,

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at least like back in the day there were clearly

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demarcated areas on the map. This goes to polls, this

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goes to Italians, this goes to Germans, et cetera, et cetera.

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Nowadays you don't have that. We just have one big

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country that all the states are effetively open boarders with

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each other, so anybody can go anywhere at any time.

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Speaker 1: And then you have places like Appalachia, you know, who

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are historically I'm talking about for hundreds of years, as

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you know, my mom's side of the family is from

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is from Appalachia, and this is this is several hundred

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years of a culture. And now because of you know,

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storms and because of our crumbling infrastructure, because you know,

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we have this competency crisis crisis quote unquote, which is

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just basically white people, white people can't run things anymore,

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so they put people in there who don't know how

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to do anything. They don't allow white people to run

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anything anymore. Now Appalachians are under or under attack the

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you know in what there, the FEMA is like arresting

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people who are trying to go in there like normal

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people are trying to go in there and help these people.

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I mean, it's just basically a war of displacement at

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this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a war of attrition, and it's a war

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of moving people. And I just finished reading I just

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released an episode reading Martin van Krebl's Warren Migration, and

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it's just this whole paper he did on historically, how

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migration has been war, you know, displacements of whole swaths

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of people, and in ways that people had to be

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treated at first in order to be either driven out

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of there or driven so far into poverty or this

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despair that they can just bring another group in and

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replace that displace that group.

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Speaker 2: I've actually said for a long time, it's funny that

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you mentioned that. I've said for a long time that

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the condition is that white people are in today are

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actually much harder than a lot of post war like

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treaties that were inflicted on a defeated population, like, for example,

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what happened in the Italy and after the First One War.

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I would argue that what we're facing today is actually

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even more severe than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't you don't have to fire a shot. No, Yeah,

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it's like they're not it's not like they're coming in

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and they're they're shooting people. It's not like they're the

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All they have to do is allow allow infrastructure to crumble,

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Let nature take its course. You know, you're gonna have her.

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You're gonna have hurricanes, even this late in the season.

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I mean a Hurricane Andrew, which I lived through, which

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is a famous one when I lived in South Florida

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that was very late in the season too. It's the latest,

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the late ones that always do the most damage. And

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you know, and then you have you watch that and

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you're seeing they're just allowing people they're going to let

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try and kill, let these people die basically, and then

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you have what's happening Andrew was nineteen ninety one, nineteen

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And then you and then you have this the dropping

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increasing the size of a town by by thirty three percent,

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with people who don't speak English and who are from

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a culture where they practice voodoo and have cannibalism and

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also have a history of killing all the white people

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on the on the island, even the Mulattoes just killed

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anyone who's not black, just kill them all. And they're

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most of the people on that island are pretty aware

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of their history, so much so that they share an

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island with a country Dominican Republic, who, because they understand

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the Haitian pace people, they turn into these like mulatto

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white supremacists who are like, yeah, you're not allowed to

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come here. We're going to shoot you if you try

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and come over our border.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. This doesn't take any special knowledge to

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realize this. All it takes it to not have a

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propagandaized population. And even that, I don't think we're I

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think it's more just a carrot in the stick situation

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and more of a stick situation where did you speak

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up about something you just get punished. You take that

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away and everyone understands the problem.

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Speaker 1: So denunzio are we talking about We're talking about proto

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proto Italian fascism here, Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Actually, the Italian fascist us Leni one on actually took

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a lot of inspiration from the Hydiens of Dnusu and

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his loyal RDV, which again, before before we decided to

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publish this book, I wasn't even aware of this period

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of history, so it was a very enlightening thing to read.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's it's also an interesting period in time

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because a lot of countries are having fascist movements, but

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because they tend to be more nationalists, they can be

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different from country to country. You know, the the Action

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Franseie and the British Union of Yeah, the British Union

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of Fascists are going to be too, going to operate

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two completely different ways, but they're still going to on

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an international level be able to talk to each other

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Plus Europe is so geographically small. I mean,

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that they're including like the parts of Russia like before

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if you're not including Russia, is actually quite tiny all

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things considered, which I think it makes it all the

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more important to preserve.

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Speaker 1: So Dennzio just had his army left over from World

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War One. Who who's fighting with him?

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Speaker 2: Yes, so basically a bunch of these loyal shock troops

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that with them during the First World War. Obviously, these

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guys were also not very happy about the the post

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war treaty that were giving over this city. So it

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stirred up a lot of your a dentist energies, as Hey,

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that that's our city. We're not going to to let

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some piece of paper decide that our city is just

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going to be up for drabs. There's no way we're

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gonna let that happen without a fight. We just thought

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a war and we're not gonna let that happen, so

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especially since the Italians were, you know, on the winning

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side of that time.

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess one of the things that

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you could really look at if you wanted to compare

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this with today is I mean the fact that they

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are Italian and we're you know, when we look at

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what's happening here, we're Americans and some it's I'm not

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going to use the term melting pot because I know

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we're melting. That term came from and it's such a

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horrible term, but it is a bunch of groups who

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are There are many different cultures in the United States,

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and there.

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Speaker 2: Is some truth to it. I mean, white Americans effectively

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today are their own ethnic group if you ask me, Like,

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obviously it's more complicated than that, Like there's still people

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that have like strong Italian identity, for example, are Irish

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or Greek or god as well. But for the most part, everybody,

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all the white people today like nominally identify as Americans first,

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and then their ancestry is kind of just a nice

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little bonus thing for them. I don't really think there's

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anybody who's like, yeah, I'm like only Italian and I'm

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kind of just here as a guest in this country.

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I think that that sentiment has been long long gone,

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so excuse me. I think if there were ever like

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an American nationalist movement, I think people would just cling

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to their American identities. I think, based on my own

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life experience, that's that's how everybody feels today, like the

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whole Uh it's funny actually non whites kind of make

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fun of white people, you know, in a way to

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actually find kind of funny and lighthearted, which is that

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we are always talking about our ancestry like, oh, I'm

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like three quarters Italian in a quarter Polish, Like there's

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like a little one sixteenth of like English in there.

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And it's funny because like I've heard, you know, black

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colleagues and whatnot say it like, hey, we never do

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any of that. Come that's only white people do something

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like that, And I guess it's actually true. That is

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something that's unique to us. So I've never really heard

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non whites talking about themselves that way. I mean, obviously,

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like they'll have their ancestry like they're maybe they're from

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like Thailand or something, but it kind of just ends

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there and it's not really a point of topic, the

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topic of conversation really like it is with us. So

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I'd like to think that we have a little quirk

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about us and it's something I don't really want to

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give up, even though we are all at the end

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of the day, like Americans.

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Speaker 1: That yeah, I wasn't saying that like a lot of

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white Americans, European Americans still like I identify with the

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old Country. First, I'm saying it's just trying to get

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everybody to come together in the United States under the

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banner of of something is hard because when you see

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yourself as American, well that also that also includes a

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lot of groups that are destroying America. You know, a

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lot of groups will fall under that naturally because of

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our civic religion, that are destroying America. And you know,

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I don't think that it's white Europeans that are destroying America.

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So yeah, yeah, I mean having people just getting certain

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people to understand that. You know, watch cable news, watch

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cable news for the last ten years and you'll see

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that they Yeah, I was talking about this today. I

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can't remember who I was talking about with. But when

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when it comes to like victim status and you you

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have all these groups historically, you know, Blacks, Jews, all

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these that claim victim status, but it's really not victim

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status because they're getting they're getting preferential treatment. And like

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no one has you know, no one in the United

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States has declared war upon any racial group, any ethnic

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group except whites.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like you're actually oppressed. If you claim

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to be a victim, nobody would listen to me. You

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wouldn't get a spot on cable TV. I just listen

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to the way that white people are talked about in

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mainstream discord. We're effectively just an obstacle for other people

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to overcome.

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Speaker 1: And the well and it's also I forget what the

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guy's name is. I think it was at the A

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c l U. Or was he at the A c

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l U. Or it's Southern.

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Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. You about more potox

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uh the calendar of white the white population percentage. Yeah,

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that's what you're talking about. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine, I mean if it was black, if

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it was like if the black population was dwindling and

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some white guy at at like ABBY the Abbeyville Institute

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had that had that and that came out, it'd be war.

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I mean they their their licenses would be taken away,

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I mean everything, they'd be destroyed. But no, it's and

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you know, that's the problem is is just getting you know,

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most white people, especially older people who have power, people

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who have wealth, to understand that because they're very because

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their wealth and there and what power they have is

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still insulating them from a lot of a lot of

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this where a lot of a lot of younger whites

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can't even get the jobs to be able to even

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start making wealth. Getting people to come together and basically

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understand what this war actually is is. You know, it's troubling.

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And then you know, you take into consideration that once

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you start doing that, you're going to be infiltrated. You're

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going to have Feds in there, and they're going to

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be looking to shut you down. Even if you if

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you're not infiltrated, they're going to shut you, try to

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shut you down from the outside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting this country is so geographically expansive that

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the problems aren't bad enough yet where you can't just

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run away and find somewhere that's still nice, which is

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a double edged sword. Obviously, it's nice that you can

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do that However, the downside to that is that it

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makes it easy for people to bury their heads in

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the sand and not feel like they're forced to politically

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fight the problems that are being inflicted inflicted upon us.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, after living in Atlanta for so many years,

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I decided I wanted to get I wanted to get out,

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and I mean I live pretty damn rural. Some people

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could say running away, but even but then, you know,

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how far can you run for? I live fifty minutes

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from Silicaga, Alabama. I don't know if you've heard that name,

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but that's one of those places where Haitians were just

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dropped off in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing how they don't just get dropped off

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into Atlanta or other major population centers. Have to strategically

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inject them into the most strategically white places in the country.

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It's almost like it's being done intentionally.

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Speaker 1: And for many reasons. I mean, people are being paid off,

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people are getting rich to do this. I mean that's

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come out of Springfield that there are a few names

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in Springfield. Yeah, the factory owner, the mayor. The mayor

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owns eight rental properties which he's kicked all the white

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people out. He only rents to Haitians now, and he

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doubled the rent. There's a guy named George ten who

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has like an employment agency which is just basically human trafficking.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: He gets he has Haitians bust in from all over

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the country. He gets them, play, gets them jobs there,

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busts them all over the place. Whenever they get in

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the bus to go from wherever, from like home to

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work and everything, he charges each one of them twenty

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dollars for the ride, and then he takes I've heard

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he takes half their paycheck and everything. So there's a

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lot of problems because first of all, you know, you

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have Alexander Alejandro Majorcas, who is obviously i mean, like

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the the modern day caricature of you know, somebody in

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seven eleven in seven eleven AD who would have been

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opening the gates of Toledo in Spain to and he's

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basically busting in and flying in anyone and everyone who

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wants to come here, no matter whether they can speak

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the language, have money if they're European. I mean, it's

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just so you have that which is ideological, then you

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have people who are making money off of it. You

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have the NGOs, and then you have people on the

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local level. I mean basically, if you would need like

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somebody an attorney general with the balls to be like, Okay,

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I'm filing a reco case and I'm just taking all

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you down because this is a criminal enterprise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would also require having government figures in. The

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Attorney general does ideologically be in on this whole process

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as well. Fortunately not the case for us.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we I guess we shall see. But

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it's it seems like really the only the only thing

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that anyone can control right now is locally. Is you know,

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if you if you have a good sheriff and you

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get with your sheriff and you get with people, and

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you try to figure out how how to handle this

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if it if it comes to you. Because now I

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get the idea that it's just going to come for

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every everyone, I mean the whole you know, the the

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idea that every that everyone who comes here is an

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economic boon on on the for the country is you know,

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then you have people like matt Mattie Iglesias, who is like, well,

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I mean I guess if that's true, then we need

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a billion you know, we need a billion Americans.

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Speaker 2: People are at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's just everybody's an economic unit and

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that's all that's all we are. And if you're an

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economic unit, then you can be you're easily replaced by

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the next economic unit. And if you run out of

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you know, if if they you know, like if they

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flood your town with opioids and you get everyone, you

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get half the you know, half the white population hooked

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and you kill them off or you you basically disable them. Well,

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that's just an econo. That's just a loss of an

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economic unit, and it's very easily replaced with another economic unit.

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And we don't care where that comes from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you know. Actually, I visited my hometown again recently.

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I hadn't been there in many, many years, and I

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was very happy to see that it's still nice and

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I couldn't still shake off this feeling and how much

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longer is this going to last before this place gets

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an injection of diversity or something, you know, you know,

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just having this worldview, it can be a little bit

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taxing sometimes because I don't know, it seems like so

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many other people don't even kind of realize the the

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conditions being inflicted on us by our elite that are

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hostile to us. It's a little bit lonely sometimes, you know,

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kind of happy to be around everybody who doesn't even

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realize it. But you know, maybe ignorance is bliss. But

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that said, I was still very happy to be back

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and see the old family members and everything. But so

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it's hard to shake off that feeling. It's like, I've

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known too many people that experience seeing their hometown get

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overrun with foreigners and kind of decline materially. And I'm

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glad that that didn't happen to me, but maybe one

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day it will, and that kind of upsets me just

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a little bit. So I kind of understand. I really

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understand the feeling other people that have to see their

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homes have, Like these big population transfers like we were seeing,

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for example, in Europe at the end of the First

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World War, Like it kind of gave me an appreciation

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for obviously it's a different situation, but seeing like two

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countries swap their populations, I mean, even after these people

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have been living in an area for hundreds of years.

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It I feel like for me, just the experience of

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going back home again, it kind of reminded me, give

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me a taste of reality that like these things all

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happened in the real world. It's not just something I

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read out of the book. It kind of humanized for

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me all of these these people that had to go

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through this. So I thought it's valuable for me.

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Speaker 1: Well, the where I grew up I never live again,

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you know, which is which is unfortunate because is I

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would say, growing up in a city, and especially in

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a big city, it's not so bad if your life,

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if you can live a life that's that's peaceful, If

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you can live a life where you can prosper, if

476
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:31,319
that's what you want to do. Unfortunately, that is just

477
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,039
impossible in this country at this point. So if you

478
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:37,519
want to live have more peaceful life, you're going to

479
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:41,680
have to leave. And I don't regret it because it's

480
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,519
it was a really good decision, especially considering where you know,

481
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,720
the way things are now. But you know, people really

482
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:54,519
shouldn't have to do that, and what you mentioned elites there,

483
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,440
and one of the one of the main issue with

484
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,160
ialy eats is is that when you have a system

485
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:08,960
like we do in the United States, people can come

486
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,720
from anywhere and become elites. And that doesn't mean that

487
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:19,920
they're going to they're they're going to be a they're

488
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,799
gonna they're going to become American. They're still going to

489
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:26,960
have they can still have allegiances somewhere else. So if

490
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,519
you have elites that are you know, share a bloodline

491
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:35,200
with you, and you know, you know place like Iceland

492
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:38,000
where pretty much at three hundred thousand people and almost

493
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,359
everyone's related to each other in some way, shape or form,

494
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,279
sure your elites may watch out for you. Have a

495
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,000
have a give a better chance of your elites watching

496
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:51,839
out for you. I still think it's interesting that Iceland

497
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,200
was really the only place that after the two thousand

498
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,359
and eight crash track down their bankers and put them

499
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,839
in jail, you know, because you know, they escaped after that,

500
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,720
and they were like, well, you punish our people, and

501
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,039
you go there now. And I remember going there. I

502
00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:11,079
was there for like two weeks and I never saw

503
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:13,480
a cop, never saw a police officer like the whole

504
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,119
time I was there. And it's just because it's a homogeneous, homogeneous,

505
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:25,359
massive people who are not going to kill each other.

506
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,039
I think there was two murders in the last two

507
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,039
years before I got there, and they were both committed

508
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:35,440
by foreigners and committed by tourists, and you know, we

509
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,279
look at what we have here, you know, and it's

510
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rather difficult. It's rather difficult.

511
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Speaker 2: You know.

512
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Speaker 1: There was a time in this country where people from

513
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different parts of Europe, they congregated amongst themselves, still considered

514
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:54,039
themselves to be Americans. But they you know, they had

515
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:57,960
something in common, and you know, they were just in

516
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,880
a new land and making a new life for them.

517
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,440
And that pretty much all went away after, you know,

518
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:08,680
after after World War Two, when basically every you know,

519
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:13,680
the world just dumped every Yeah, the world just started

520
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,359
dumping every other. Countries started dumping everyone they didn't want here.

521
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,319
And people who came here weren't coming here to be

522
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,400
Americans or to join the America. Most weren't coming to

523
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:27,559
join the American They were coming to get theirs.

524
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:30,839
Speaker 2: And it reminds me of actually a bit of a

525
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,480
funny story. I used to work in an office and

526
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,400
with a lot of like h one B visa Indians

527
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,640
and they would always talk very fondly of their home country, India.

528
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,200
I would always kind of problems like, so why are

529
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,880
you here? And the answer was always the same money.

530
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,559
These people aren't oppressed, These people aren't like escaping some

531
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,559
horrible divisions. They're just here for money and they would

532
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:59,119
happily go back home anytime. Yeah.

533
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean I've never been to India,

534
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:06,039
and I know people who've been to Indian that they

535
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,799
don't want to go back, like one time's enough for them.

536
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,440
But yeah, it's that's basically what it is. You know,

537
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,000
people talk about how, you know, if you wanted to

538
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,640
end some of the problems with people coming over the

539
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,400
southern border, you would tax remittances and things like that

540
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,000
and tax them heavily, or you know, just make past

541
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,640
get regulations that would make it take away people's companies

542
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,400
for for hiring people who are illegal, things like that.

543
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,319
But yeah, in the end of the at the end

544
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:48,319
of the day, it's all about will and it's do

545
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,119
people have the will to change? You know, you hear

546
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:56,799
Trump used the term remigration. You hear JD Events say

547
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:59,000
you know, a lot of people need to a lot

548
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:00,599
of people need to go. Hear a lot of people

549
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,240
on the rights saying that is, do they have the

550
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,079
will to do it? Do you have a will to?

551
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

552
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Do you have and all it is is will. You know,

553
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,799
Will is a will is an amazing thing. Just ask

554
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,160
Boo Kelly. You know, Boo Kelly's done something to l

555
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:25,359
Salvador that no one who knows the history is El Salvador.

556
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,200
And strangely, I do know the history of El Salvador

557
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,480
since like since you know, the early eighteen hundreds, just

558
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:36,240
because I've studied the banana the Banana Wars and United

559
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,319
Fruit and stuff like that companies like that. But yeah,

560
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:43,079
I mean, who would have thought that people are like

561
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,880
going on vacation to El Salvador Now Americans are like,

562
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,200
oh yeah, let's go check this out. Yeah, it's still cheap.

563
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,960
Let's go while it's still cheap. And it goes from

564
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,559
the murder capital of you know, the Western Hemisphere to

565
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,400
like the safest country in North America, the safest country

566
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,440
in the America.

567
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,799
Speaker 2: And he's just goes to show you that government power,

568
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,839
like if if people actually want to get something done, wow,

569
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,640
what do you know you can actually do it? Just

570
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,159
because it shows like the what the United States government? Like,

571
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,719
are youably the most powerful entity on earth? Can't control

572
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,719
its or I come on, I know what?

573
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: And the thing I love about Boo Kelly is he's

574
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,320
totally leaning into it. The way he dresses. I mean

575
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,440
he's dressing like a like a fascist. I don't know

576
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:35,320
that he's a fascist. He sounds pretty you know, he's

577
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,159
into bitcoin and things like that. But he's leaning into it.

578
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,880
He's like, I'm a strong man and I'm going to

579
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,320
do this and I'm going to we are going my

580
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,800
people are going to be safe. Why would you have that?

581
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,159
How can you possibly have that here when all we

582
00:34:57,199 --> 00:34:58,760
are is in an economic zone?

583
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: I think it's hilariou is that a guy making his

584
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,840
country safer is a point of contention. It's just something.

585
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,159
It's just something really weird about that situation, where like

586
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:11,280
if you took someone from two hundred years ago and

587
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,320
you brought them here today, like trying to explain why

588
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,519
he's controversial and must make no sense whatsoever.

589
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, yeah, it's you know somebody who even just

590
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,920
a caesar or something like that hold, you know, wondering

591
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,559
about what barbarian hordes are coming. And it's like if

592
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,280
he were to be like, well, you know, you don't

593
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,199
even have to come here and conquer, just come on in,

594
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,679
just you know, no one needs to no one needs

595
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,719
to swing sing a swing a sword, you know, just

596
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,000
come on in. I mean, no one. I forget who

597
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:58,599
was saying it recently, but it were saying, can you imagine,

598
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:03,320
like for like three or four hundred years ago, like

599
00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:10,119
any king in Europe, any ruler in Europe, being like,

600
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,480
you know what, I'm just gonna replace screwed, screw you guys.

601
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,480
I'm just going to replace the whole population with you know,

602
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:19,880
we're gonna bring a bunch of a bunch of Northern

603
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,719
Africans in here. We're gonna bring a bunch of wars

604
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,360
in here, and you know they're gonna work. They'd have

605
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,760
your head. Yet look where we are, Look where we are.

606
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: Yea. Revolutions have been fought for far less in.

607
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: History, Kings have lost their heads for for far less.

608
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920
But you know, we have such it's such a decentralized

609
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,000
you know people, this is something I started saying a

610
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,239
few years ago, was people talk about how centralized the

611
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,480
United States government is. I'm like, it's not. It's decentralized.

612
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,639
Just like where would you even begin to cut?

613
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. It's like, no, I think conspiracy theories really

614
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,000
flourish here in the West because nobody really knows who's

615
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,760
in charge or what their motivations are. At least if

616
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,599
you're living in I don't know, say El Salvador and

617
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,599
you're not happy, you can point your finger at Naive

618
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:11,039
bu Kelly is sad. That guy's the reason that all

619
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:12,599
these problems exist. So if you live in Russia and

620
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,199
you point your finger at Vladimir Putin, at least you

621
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,719
know who's in charge. Here in the West, not so much.

622
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's a gigantic corporation and

623
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,639
we have a CEO. But much like many corporations, the

624
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,440
CEO is just a hired hand unless they own, you know,

625
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:37,199
unless they're the majority stockholder. And you just have all

626
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,239
these employees. I mean, I was when I researched the

627
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:46,039
that the executive branch has over like three point one

628
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,960
million employees. It's like, well, okay, what do you do

629
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,519
with that? You know, IM, well, you fire three point

630
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:55,760
you know, three point all, but like five thousand of

631
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,320
them because you don't you don't need it, you know,

632
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,639
the state, you don't need the State Department. The State

633
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:06,400
Department is like the president on a zoom call, you know,

634
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,239
with a couple talking with a couple of his advisors,

635
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,000
and this is all just a gigantic business and it's

636
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:16,880
all a way to create you know, It's like they

637
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,039
said that all that affirmative action was was just an

638
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:26,400
excuse to create a false black middle class in upper

639
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,719
middle class. And like the same thing with like the

640
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,039
music industry and professional sports was to give a fake

641
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:36,880
black one percent because we're just going to pay them

642
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,679
millions and millions upon millions, and now we can say

643
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,719
we have this, you know, we have this group, and

644
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,800
then we find out that, you know, even they're compromised

645
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,360
in some kind of Jeffrey Epstein way recently, because why not,

646
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,239
Because I mean that's the way we live in Jeffrey

647
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,239
Epstein world right now.

648
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can visit pretty much everybody in the

649
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,360
entertainment industry retire as of what raised there as some

650
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,119
sort of p Diddy scandal is waiting to come out,

651
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:03,559
like you step out of line one time, you make

652
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:05,280
one little misstep, and all of a sudden, all your

653
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,880
black mile material is out in public.

654
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh politics too, yeah, I mean you have to assume

655
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,800
that pretty much every politician except like Tomas Massey at

656
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,480
this point is you know, in some way it is,

657
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,440
they have something on them. And I had a friend

658
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,840
who was a lobbyist in d C. And he said

659
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,679
the way he made it to d C was he

660
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,400
was just working on a regular Texas on a Texas

661
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,039
campaign for a guy who was running for United States House.

662
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,719
And when the guy won, and he ran on like

663
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,719
a Ron Paul kind of libertarian is kind of thing.

664
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,719
And when he won, he said, you know, do you

665
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,400
want to come to DC and work for me, be

666
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,079
on my staff. And he's like sure, and he said

667
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,519
he went there. He said, within a week the guy

668
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,920
was part of the swamp. He completely forgotten everything. And

669
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,800
he's like, uh, you know, I'll do this just to

670
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,000
get for a little bit longer, to get some experience.

671
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,599
But then you know, you got snapped up by lobbys,

672
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:07,159
by lobbyists. And then he just basically told me how

673
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:09,840
all that stuff worked. And it's just like, this is

674
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,480
not this is not. My friend Oliver hates this term.

675
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,519
This is, which is why I like using it. It's

676
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:20,119
not governance. This is not governance. This is not how

677
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:23,079
you govern. This is not I like the term rule more.

678
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:27,360
This is not how you rule. If if there was

679
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,800
a ruler who had my best interests. Even if there

680
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,920
was a ruler who was just basically neutral when it

681
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,639
came to me, like, just didn't really care about my existence,

682
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,639
I'd be perfectly fine with having a ruler. The problem

683
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,199
is is that my existence, and you know, what I

684
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,639
believe and what I advocate for, is completely opposite of

685
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:54,559
what this regime, what this regime stands for. So what

686
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:57,199
do you what do you do? You can just only

687
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,760
hope at some point to get get your friends and

688
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:03,360
get your you know, people get in power who you

689
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,119
share your value, share values with.

690
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's one of the reasons I've kind of

691
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,039
been enjoying world events lately. Finally watching the people running

692
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:17,239
our country have problems overseas, so to speak. Finally someone's

693
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,320
cousing and headaches. Yeah.

694
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,599
Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, the things that they do overseas have a

695
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:30,000
habit of pulling us into them because in more ways

696
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:36,480
than one, if it's not monetarily then you like Tennessee

697
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:41,039
right now, Eastern Tennessee is the section my buddy lives

698
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:43,239
in is flooded. He lives up on a hill. He's

699
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,519
doing fine, but bridges are down, all this everything and

700
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,519
half of the National Guard right now is in Kuwait,

701
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,280
the Tennessee.

702
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,679
Speaker 2: National What are they doing in Kuwait? Geez? Who knows

703
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,480
the National guard is supposed to be national?

704
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know when g when Global War on

705
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,360
Terror started. I have a I have a friend who

706
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,199
was in the who was in the Coastguard. I have

707
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,119
video of he has video he's shared it with me

708
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:17,360
of him and his coast guard cut him and his

709
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,280
coastguard cutter off the off the coast of Somalia fighting

710
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,920
Somali pirates.

711
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: So I know that. I actually didn't know that the

712
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Coastguard went out that far.

713
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I didn't. I didn't know our

714
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:36,679
water is like spread to like East East Africa.

715
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,159
Speaker 2: You know, everywhere's America, don't you know?

716
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, if you're a gigantic commercial zone, that's that's

717
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,960
all that is is here is just you're there are

718
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,960
certain straits there that need to be opened up so

719
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,159
that oil can flow and you know, the commerce can flow.

720
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And that's the main reason they the main reason the

721
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:04,119
Huthis are even you even know their name right now, Yeah,

722
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:09,519
because they're able to disrupt commerce and that is the

723
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,480
cardinal sin in an economic zone, which basically the whole

724
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,079
West is now and they want to make trying to

725
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,280
make the Middle East that way and make everywhere that way.

726
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's really crazy seeing, uh, what appeared

727
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,199
to us to be like a ragtag group of scrappy

728
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,239
rebels just shutting down the international trade like that. I

729
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,400
didn't think i'd ever lived to see something quite like it.

730
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,599
Speaker 1: Some of the missiles that they're they're firing now are

731
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,960
very very interesting. I mean, you have hyper they have

732
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:51,199
hypersonic missiles, and I've a former former CIA guy i know,

733
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,800
said that some of these missiles have been seen like

734
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,519
changing direction in air in mid air. Okay, and and

735
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,840
apparently they're not Russian, So what the heck? You know,

736
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:08,519
I mean historically, you know, we have to remember the

737
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:13,920
whole idea that that Arabs are like really low IQ

738
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:19,559
retards is some propaga, is some propaganda. I mean, these

739
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:21,719
are some of the like historically some of the smartest

740
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,159
people on the planet, you know, and it seems like

741
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:28,840
they're they're putting their smartest to good use.

742
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, Well, did jew fears the hypersonic ruth

743
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:33,960
her In?

744
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:42,119
Speaker 1: Well that was something yesterday watching that rain down, watching

745
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:44,559
some of those missiles rain down, and some of the

746
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,639
telegram channels I'm on it was. I was just like, wow,

747
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:54,639
and they're so and you know, the these bloodthirsty Muslims

748
00:44:55,599 --> 00:45:00,320
who aren't aiming for aren't aiming for civilian.

749
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: Well did you see the CNN reporter crowing about That's like,

750
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:09,000
oh God, the Masad headquarters is an in densely populated area.

751
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,800
If I ran were to hit it, who knows how

752
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,119
many civilians might die? Like, you guys are really going

753
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,119
to go there after the last year.

754
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:19,039
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it's been confirmed yet or not,

755
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:23,920
but I mean I saw one video on telegram that

756
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:28,440
was claiming to be them combing through the rubble of

757
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,840
Massad headquarters, But I don't know that that's been confirmed yet,

758
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,199
and that would be the last thing that Israel would confirm.

759
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine they'd want that getting out. They

760
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,159
really thrive off of having an image of being everywhere

761
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,079
and being invincible and being all knowing, and if that

762
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:49,079
were to crumble, they look a lot weaker.

763
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, this morning I was monitoring their well, starting

764
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:59,239
last night, I was monitoring their incursions. They're trying to

765
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,920
go over the order and go into southern Lebanon and

766
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,880
they're getting repelled and they're taken cat heavy casualties.

767
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't sure exactly what's going on there. I

768
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:15,159
heard that they got they've basically been turned back, but

769
00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:16,800
I didn't know if that was because they just felt

770
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,400
they were unprepared, or if they were actually getting fired

771
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,000
at and having their tanks destroyed or anything. I'm not

772
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:23,199
entirely sure what's going on.

773
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if their tanks are being destroyed,

774
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:28,719
but I know they were taken. They've taken heavy, not

775
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,840
heavy casualties, but heavy casualties for in proportion to the

776
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,480
size of the forces that they're trying to send them there.

777
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:37,679
Speaker 2: Well, they've they've been fighting in Gaza for a year.

778
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:43,199
They are a depleted army. Frankly, they're war tired. I mean,

779
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:45,800
there's nothing that many people in Israel period to draw

780
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:50,880
conscripts from. You only have so many soldiers, and they're

781
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,280
all exhausted. As I imagine air power alone. This is.

782
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:01,119
Speaker 1: Well, how many IDF soldiers are really that idea? I mean,

783
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:04,840
if you the from what I understand the settler army is,

784
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:09,440
I mean they're insane. These are actually actually insane people

785
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,400
and very low IQ from what I understand, I mean,

786
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,599
the average IQ in Israel. Most people don't know this

787
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:19,400
is ninety two because it's because of the Israehi.

788
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: These hyperla people. Yeah, I think they're also more contented,

789
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,880
just quite frankly, like terrorized civilians in the West Bank.

790
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,119
I don't know how effective of the actual idea of

791
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:32,960
soldiers those guys are. Plus the ultra Orthodox, and I

792
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,360
know all these settlers aren't necessarily altra Orthodox. The ultra

793
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,280
Orthodox already just don't serve anyway. Yeah, yeah, narrows down

794
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:40,880
their conscription.

795
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: Believe more, it's amazing that there's a lot of there's

796
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,519
a lot of Orthodox Jews that live there that are

797
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:53,159
not Zionists. They are like rabbit anti Zionists. It's like, okay,

798
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:54,719
what do you doing? What are you doing there?

799
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it's like. Okay, you're gonna complain about

800
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,280
Zionism and then you're gonna enjoy the bets A.

801
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,119
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but it is one of those yeah, true,

802
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,719
but it is one of those things where a lot

803
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,519
of these people were born there. I think, if I'm

804
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:13,280
not mistaken, Nya, who is the first Prime minister who

805
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,199
was actually born there, even though he went to school

806
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,199
in Philadelphia and went you know, went to high school

807
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:20,960
in Philadelphia, went to M I T and everything, but

808
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:27,559
I think he was born there. Yeah, but yeah, I

809
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:34,239
mean it's a it's it's it's a terrible thing when

810
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,920
you're when you're used to being somewhere, when you've been

811
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,480
somewhere a long time, and it along comes a group

812
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:47,360
that that seeks to dis to displace you. And yeah,

813
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,400
I can understand winning a war, you know, and going

814
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,000
in and saying, Okay, we're gonna take this land and

815
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,519
we're just gonna kick all these people out and everything,

816
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:57,679
but then just keeping them hostage so you can use

817
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,719
them as an excuse on the world staged to be like, look,

818
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,199
we have these we try to be nice to these people,

819
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,039
but they're just our enemies. We're doing our best in

820
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:11,440
our I mean, how scummy. Just what's kind of scum

821
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,239
do you have to be? I mean, I would.

822
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: Treats the Palestinians knee winds. And I'm supposed to be

823
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,559
like a big, bad, you know, pro white person, which

824
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:25,320
is basically like the medieval equivalent of being a witch

825
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:28,039
in our in our society, and even I look at them,

826
00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:29,679
and I'm like, jeez, guys, you want to tone it

827
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:32,280
down a little bit. Guys are cruel beyond measure. I

828
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,880
can't even imagine myself doing this and treating anyone like that.

829
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: Well, there's no reason to, you know, if you get power,

830
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:42,679
there's no reason. If you have an enemy that's among you,

831
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:45,760
there's no reason to keep them there. Just get rid

832
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,000
of them. They ship them off. I'm not saying kill

833
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,880
them all. I'm saying gather them up and get rid

834
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,480
of them. It's your land. If it's your land, you

835
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:56,960
can choose who you want to be there. If you

836
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,440
if you're rolling over this land, you get to choose

837
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,800
who's there. It's just like in your house. If you're

838
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,559
in your house, you get to choose who comes in

839
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:06,760
your house. If you have a land, you get to

840
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,760
kick them out. If they would have just went in

841
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,639
there in nineteen forty eight and went okay, everyone out,

842
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,239
get the hell out.

843
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: I try a problem with that, Well they tried to. Obviously,

844
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,320
the situation is a little bit more complicated than that.

845
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960
I am sure that if if the Israelitis could just

846
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:25,280
kick out all the Palestinians tomorrow, they would, but it's

847
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,800
not as easy as that. Obviously, we're seeing the consequences

848
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,880
of their attitude.

849
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:35,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean these are these are fierce warriors.

850
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:40,559
Speaker 2: I mean they they surely become that way out of necessity. Yeah.

851
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: Well, i mean even back then they had the ones

852
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:46,679
that they can't get. People are like, oh, well, there

853
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:49,880
weren't even a lot of those people who were there.

854
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,000
They came from other countries because because the Jews were

855
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,840
coming there. Yeah, listen to what you're saying. These are

856
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:02,280
people who share a religion and in many cases sharonth knows,

857
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:05,280
and they're coming to the aid of their friends, and

858
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,079
they're coming to say aids to their friends and family,

859
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,360
and there their brothers and sisters. It's like, wouldn't you

860
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,159
do the same? Oh, but you can't say that because

861
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:18,000
it's this one protected group that you know, something bad

862
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:22,199
happened to them once or one hundred and nine times

863
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,360
or you know, two thousand times, and you know, so

864
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,519
you're they have all these excuses. They can do anything

865
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:29,880
they want.

866
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,079
Speaker 2: You know.

867
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,159
Speaker 1: I'm watching this, these missiles rain down on Israel yesterday

868
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:37,960
and I'm waiting for the body count, and I'm like,

869
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,920
I'm not here in a body count yeah.

870
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: Oh, they tried to say that like one palace Citian

871
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,679
man with the only victim, Like, yeah, all right, I

872
00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:47,239
don't believe that. There's no way that.

873
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, there had to have been, but you know,

874
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:53,480
it seems like a lot of these hits were perse

875
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,360
were pretty precise, and they were concentrating on military intelligence targets.

876
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,119
Speaker 2: I heard that Israel lost something like twenty thirty five.

877
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,840
I mean, who knows that that's true, but that is

878
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,400
what I heard.

879
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're they're not claiming Israel hasn't said that yet,

880
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:13,679
but the but that is what was reported pretty immediately,

881
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,360
pretty immediately. But you know, and just think about what

882
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,480
they did to what they did to kill what's his name,

883
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:32,599
Marsala from himself? Yeah if if if what what's his name?

884
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:36,639
On on Judge Napolitano's show, said Alistair Crooks said they

885
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:42,360
dropped eighty two ton bombs and in an area in

886
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:49,199
a in a urban area, Okay, I mean basically from

887
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:53,559
what I've heard from people who know people who you know,

888
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,159
are live in Lebanon, everybody knows someone who died this

889
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,960
past weekend. At least one person who died this last weekend.

890
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,639
Speaker 2: Crazy because what we were seeing now is like effectively

891
00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:05,840
like Bronze Age warfare brought to the modern world, and

892
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,280
it really shocks people's modern sensibilities. I mean, imagine, like

893
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,559
if Iran wanted to assassinate Benjamin and Yahoo and what

894
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:16,920
they did yesterday, it was like they dropped like a

895
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,000
freaking like eighty ton like bunker buster bomb on his home,

896
00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:23,199
or like he was in a bunker and like he

897
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,960
blew up like two apartment abilities and killed thousands of

898
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,880
people to do it. Like I can't even imagine like

899
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,840
Russia killing like Zelenski like that. I'm sure they could

900
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,360
if they wanted to, Like you know, it's just like

901
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,519
killing like the political leaders of your country like that.

902
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,320
I don't know. I don't even recall stuff like that

903
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,320
happening in World War Two. Necessarily you just go up

904
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,079
the enemy government officials like that and right in the

905
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:51,880
middle of their city. It's crazy.

906
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's I know that Putin. Putin probably could

907
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,199
have gotten Zelenski many times now. He's just they don't

908
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,639
kill civilians, you know, And people have to remember. I'm

909
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,800
I'm I'm well versed enough in my Middle East politics

910
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,960
to know that Iran has blot. These are Shia. They're

911
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,239
not sunny head shoppers. They're not Wahabis. Okay, they don't.

912
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:27,079
These aren't suicide bombers. They don't target civilians. They're very political.

913
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:30,840
They're very political. And I mean the thing about it

914
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,519
with all those with all those hypersonic missiles yesterday, they

915
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:40,360
could have rained those down into they could have aimed

916
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:47,159
every single one of them at civilian targets, and they didn't. Yet,

917
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,679
you know, Israel just concentrates on civilian targets. And what

918
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,119
is their excuse every time, well, there was someone hiding

919
00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:57,119
in the basement human shields.

920
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:58,639
Speaker 2: They blew up. I heard from an era buddy of

921
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:04,079
the they blew up three UN schools in Gaza yesterday

922
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:07,000
and killed something like forty plus children, and of course

923
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:09,039
we don't hear anything about it. And their excuse to

924
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:11,880
naturally was like, oh, these were pub mosque command centers.

925
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,000
I don't even know why they bought four anymore either.

926
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:18,719
It's true, Like come on, guys.

927
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm done with them.

928
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,159
You know, if all of this was happening and they

929
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:32,360
didn't also occupy my government, I'd be like, eh, you know,

930
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,079
this is pretty screwed up and everything.

931
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a huge issue because these people were

932
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,559
our country is beholden to them. So everybody here in

933
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,639
America who thinks that it doesn't apply to them, like

934
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,800
you do, need to care about this issue.

935
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, people are like, well, you know, I

936
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:52,360
when I was fighting in the Global War on Terror,

937
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,760
I got to see what I got to see what

938
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,239
these Muslims were like on the ground, face to face

939
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,639
them killing my buddies and everything, and I'm like, I

940
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:03,960
get that. Believe me, I get that. None of them,

941
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,440
none of those control your banking, control, your press, brought

942
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the porn industry to this country, control Hollywood control. Where

943
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are yeah? Where are What have they done to you?

944
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What have they done?

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Speaker 2: It's funny that you say that, because it's kind of

946
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ironic that that our military recruiters and in our government

947
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are more than happy for to take advantage of drug

948
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outgroup racism like that, like anti Muslims to them when

949
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they want you to go fight a war in the

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Middle East, but as soon as you come home, that's

951
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totally forboding. You can't have any UGroup preference at all,

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not all Muslims, etcetera. Etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, anyway, we we we came on here

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to talk about a book, and I think we covered it.

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You covered it pretty good in like three or four minutes,

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and then we basically jumped off, jumped off the theme

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of the book.

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Speaker 2: Well do think we did. I think a lot of

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what we talked about, like thematically relates to the kind

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of sentiments that the Italian passions were feeling at the time.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of Europeans were feeling well, I

962
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mean the Europeans that were you know that ended up

963
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being on the short end of the Treaty of Versailles. Yeah,

964
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I think that, and you would hope that that sentiment

965
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is growing now because it's pretty much the only thing

966
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that's going to say us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll do a little a little plug for

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the book. Then I have just said, there's nothing new

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under the sun. However you're feeling today, there's always there's

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somebody in the past who's going through the same thing.

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So and I think that with an indoing fume, is

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a very good representation of that. And I highly encourage

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anyone to.

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Speaker 1: Me Yeah, let me just for anybody who's watching it,

975
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watching this video, share it on screen so they can

976
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see what it looks like. You can get it at

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Antelope Hill is at anaalop Hill dot com or dot org.

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I can't, I can never.

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Speaker 2: It's Edelope Hill Publishing dot com.

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Speaker 1: Ann Al Hill Publishing dot com. I have a promo

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code there PQ all lowercase all one word. You get

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five percent off, And yeah, I have. If you were

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to come to my library, you would see a lot

984
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of Antelope Hill books. Also, there are some times when

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I need to do research, like immediately on a subject

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and I just grab a quick ebook off of the

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site and uh, you know, throw it and start control

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fing and uh go crazy. So yeah, the kind of

989
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things I mean, Spanish Civil War, Germany obviously Germany, Italyish

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Union of British Union A, Fascists, Oswald Mosley, I mean

991
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a lot of great stuff there, and you know poetry too,

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And yeah, I can't say enough. I think you guys,

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you know, are doing a really good job. And I

994
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know that everybody that I'd talked to, you know, they

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they appreciate, they appreciate the books they get from there,

996
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especially the books that you guys have been able to

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personally like translate out of different languages to put them

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into English.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm. It's always the real privilege to be the

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first publisher to publish something in English, so you get

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to break new ground all the time. I'm very honored

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to be part of.

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Speaker 1: That my thousandth episode, and I cleared it with the

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with you guys. Before I did, it was reading, reading

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all of the whole Burning Souls and commenting on it.

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So yeah, that was that was quite a quite an

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up a. So that was quite a five to six

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hours of fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad you enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, yeah, that one really speaks to me

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because of Yeah, I think de Grell was one of

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the most inspiring, inspiring men of the twentieth century. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He lived a very interesting life to say the least. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, my buddy Thomas seven seven seven

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doesn't has bad things to say about Franco because of

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you know that he wouldn't help He wouldn't help Adolph

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in World War two the way the way he was

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asked to. But you know he did take he did

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harbor and keep safe a lot of guys who otherwise

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may have may have met the hangman's noose. And de

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Grel was one of them. So yeah, but Sebastian, I

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appreciate it, and yeah, thanks, maybe we'll talk again sometime.

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Speaker 2: I'd love that. Well, thank you so much for having

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me on, Peter. It's been a pleasure.