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Speaker 1: If you've had a bigfoot siding and I would like

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to be a guest, please go to bigfoot witness dot

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com and let me know.

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Speaker 2: My name is Mallory and I do hair and I

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like to hike and camp and I'm really into bigfoot

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and going to bigfoot festivals. I found out about bigfoot well.

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I became interested in bigfoot after a day of hiking

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with my boyfriend. We were out at a state park

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here in Oklahoma and there had been some flooding, so

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we weren't actually on the trails. We were kind of

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walking along the waterline and at one point my boyfriend said, Oh,

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my gosh, do you smell that?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I don't smell anything.

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Speaker 2: I kind of held up my tissue and I was like,

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I've been dabbing my nose since we got here. No,

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I can't smell anything. And I was like, what did

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it smell like? And he said it smelled like straight

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up sewage. And we're just in the middle of the woods,

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and I mean, I couldn't smell anything. And I had

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pointed to some mud and thought it was maybe that

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gook over there, and he was like, I don't know,

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maybe the smell went away, but he's like, man, that

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was bad. And at one point we were in the

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middle of this state park and we come across just

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piles like this huge, like dump pile of old rusty barrels.

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I remember there was like a locker out there. Everything

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was rusty, and we're just in the middle of this

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state park and it's like, Oh, that's awful that this

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is all just sitting right here.

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Speaker 3: You know. I didn't know if maybe it washed.

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Speaker 2: In during a flood, and there was all these old

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jars and bottles, and as we were out there in

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the spot, I just had the overwhelming feeling that I

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was being watched. And I'm like scanning the area around us.

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The guy I was with he didn't note anything. I

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remember saying, does it feel like we're being watched right now?

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And he just thought I was being paranoid. He didn't

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take a lot of what I was into or a

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lot of what I had to say very seriously. But

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I just couldn't shake the feeling that we were being watched.

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And later, looking back at pictures, I noticed that there

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were sticks leaning up against these barrels.

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Speaker 3: There were similar.

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Speaker 2: Diameter and lengths, just all leaning up against these barrels

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at the same angle. I didn't notice it when we

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were there, and I didn't notice it for a long

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time when I was.

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Speaker 3: Looking back at the photos.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know why I remember the date, but

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it was April thirty, twenty seventeen. And the next day

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May first, I went hiking here in Tulsa with a

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friend and I was kind of having the same thing happening.

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It was a pretty popular place and I just couldn't

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shake the feeling of being watched again. And I told

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my friend that I was with It was like, girl,

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I'm I'm tripping out, Like I cannot shake the feeling

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that someone is like about to walk up on us.

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Speaker 3: I keep looking over my shoulder. There's nobody there.

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Speaker 2: And then I told her what had happened the day

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before when I was down at Sequoia State Park, and.

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Speaker 3: She asked me what all I believed in.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand the question, and I was like, what

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do you mean, what do I believe in? And she's like,

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I don't know, you know, like paranormally or like supernaturally.

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And I was like, well, I don't know. I suppose

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I believe in angels and demons and ghosts and aliens,

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and she asked if I believed in Bigfoot, and I

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literally responded, like Bigfoot, Like I've never even considered bigfoot.

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And she told me about three of her client encounter stories.

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We both do hair, and she told me about some

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of her clients encounters, and I was immediately really excited

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about it, but also like terrified. And I went home

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and I sat there in my hiking clothes on the

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corner of my bed looking into bigfoot stuff until my

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boyfriend got home at you know, after five o'clock. So

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that's kind of what brought it all on. And then

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it was just a little over a year later when

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I had my encounter. I went with you know, a

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companion to the bu Flow National River Area. This was

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in July twenty eighteen, and I was really into waterfall

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hikes at the time, especially in the Buffalo National River

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Area in Arkansas. So there's this waterfall guide book I have,

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and this waterfall in particular had really specific instructions on

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how to get to the trailhead, one of which includes

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going down a gravel road for two to three miles

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ish and then you just kind of pull over on

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the side of this gravel road and.

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Speaker 3: You're on your way.

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Speaker 2: There was no other cars out there, it was just us.

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When we got there, both of our windows were down.

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He turned the car off. Our windows were down because

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we were smoking, and I heard what I can only

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describe as sniffy, Like if you were in the bathroom

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and the door was shut and your dog was sniffing

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at slash under the door. Is what it sounded like

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to me. And I whispered to him.

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Speaker 3: I was like, did you hear that?

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Speaker 2: And he was like, yeah, it sounds like heavy machinery,

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like way off in the distance. And I was like, okay,

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you know I've seen rogue construction in the area, and

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at the time, I was just grateful that he acknowledged

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carrying it as well.

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Speaker 3: So we get out of the car.

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Speaker 2: We're I mean, the car is still in sight, and

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I remembered our hiking sticks. I ran back to the

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car to get the hiking sticks out of the trunk

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and ran back to him and we get going and

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it was, I mean, the shortest hike of my life.

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We were only zero point three miles down this trail,

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and the trail is starting to curve to the left,

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so we're starting to go left, and then further off

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to our left. I'm not a very good judge of distance,

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but I'm quite nearsighted, so I can't see very well

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far away, So this thing was close enough to where

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I could still make it out. We hear this rustling

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further off to the left, and we both freeze, and

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my brain registered it as a man, like tearing it

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through the through the foliage, like he was just running

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through all the branches and trees, like through the grass.

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Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, for July.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know that it's tick and snake season,

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Like who would do that and why? You know, But

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my brain registered it as a man, like the silhouette

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of a man. And I only saw it for a

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few seconds, but my brain registered it as a man.

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Its arms are in front of it, like moving branches

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and stuff to the side, so like it wasn't going

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to get smacked in the face by a branch. And

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you know, after I saw the silhouette, my line of

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vision went to its hands which were in front of it.

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The hands were black and did not have any hair

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on them, and the rest of it was covered in hair.

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What I saw and as somebody who does hair. I've

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I've always I've always said it's kind of like a

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level five chocolate brown like it was. It wasn't really

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necessarily a red brown, but I mean it was very

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clearly brown because we do have black bears in the

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area and this this wasn't that.

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Speaker 3: And I mean.

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Speaker 2: It after I saw it and arms were in front

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of it, it was gone behind a tree and I

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didn't see it again, so I didn't get a good

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look at like the face or the neck again. I

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maybe only saw it him. I always felt like it

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was a hymn. Five seconds smacked like three to five seconds.

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Speaker 3: Fast, and at that point I was like, what was that?

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And Michael was like, I have no idea, And I asked,

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do you want to go back?

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Speaker 2: And he nodded his head yes, like fast, like yes.

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So we turn around and we're walking fast, like constantly

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looking over our shoulder, and I started asking him questions

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just to make sure we didn't forget.

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Speaker 3: Or you know, just to make sure we saw the

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same thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, we we both agreed it was brown and

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on two legs and big and fast. So we're walking

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back to the car quickly, and then something flies over

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our heads, hitting all the leaves and branches.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see what it was.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear or see it land, but something flew

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over our heads, and I turned around and gave him

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this look like with my eyebrows furrowed together, like what

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was that? And his eyes were huge, like wide and huge,

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and I could only register his look on his face

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as terror. When I saw the look on his face,

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I started basically running for my life back to the car.

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sure if we would make it back to the car.

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And I track all of my hikes on all trails,

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and so I've been able to look back and it

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was only point three miles down the trail that this happened,

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So that whole hike was only point six miles. Like,

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we didn't make it to the waterfall. And when we

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got back to the car, he immediately started questioning what

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we saw, like, you know, maybe it was a deer,

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maybe it was a bear, And it's like, yeah, but

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it's like the thing that we saw run. It was

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a very smooth motion, like if a human runs, there

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is some up and down movement to that even if

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a human walks there was up and down.

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Speaker 3: This thing was just like zoop. And he's like, well,

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maybe it was a deer.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, but a deer isn't gonna doesn't move

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like that. A deer is more up and down also

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like a human. And we both agreed that whatever it

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was was on two legs. And he's like, well, maybe

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it was a bear. And it's like, well, maybe, but

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as time legs? Do you think a bear would be

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running parallel to us through the grass and stuff like that?

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Speaker 3: And he's like, well no. And then even I was like, well,

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you know, maybe you know.

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Speaker 2: There's elks elk around here, and you know, the top color,

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like the color of an elk's head is closer in

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color to what we saw than like a deer would be.

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And he's like, well, maybe it wasn't elk. Elks they

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run a little smoother and less up and down. And

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it's like yeah, but it was on its hind legs, right,

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we got back to the car and you know, we're

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going through all this, he starts driving to go to

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a different location, and at the time I was too

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scared to even get out and try again. We were

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in my small shedby Chevy Cobalt on these jeep roads

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and logging roads, so we had to go really slow,

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and it's like that thing could have covered ground to

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you know, like like, no, I can't get out, Like

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I just want to go home. I can't do this.

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I'm not going to be able to get out and

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hike today. And so we ended up just turning around

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and going back home. And we didn't talk about it

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again until I think November. Honestly, when we got back

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to the car, he started making jokes about it.

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Speaker 3: He knew I was really into Bigfoot.

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Speaker 2: He started singing this goofy song about Bigfoot playing peekaboo

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behind a tree. Now I can laugh about it, but

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at the time I was really upset by that.

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Speaker 3: I felt like he was making fun of me. But yeah,

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we didn't talk about it again until November. Again. This

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happened in July.

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Speaker 2: I was at the high school here in the town

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I live, and I left a football game. My daughter

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was in a marching band, and as I'm leaving going

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to my car, I saw like a meteor in the sky.

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his father, who I was with when I had the encounter,

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you know, I told him about it. I was like,

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oh my gosh, and I was looking around in the

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parking lot so I could freak out with somebody like,

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oh my gosh, did you see that too?

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Speaker 3: But there was no one there. And he's like, kind

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of like when you and I saw that, that one thing.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's about as much as he said. But

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it still kind of felt like he was admitting to

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seeing something. And I think it was the following summer,

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so about a year after it happened, I finally asked him.

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It's like, hey, if you were to tell somebody about

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what we saw, like from start to finish, what would

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you say, Like how would you set it up and

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what would you describe? And he was like, oh, no,

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that we were hiking we saw some big animal. It

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was brown and I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 3: And it's like that's it, Like that's all like from

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start to finish, that's what you'd say. And he's like yeah,

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and it's like, oh okay. And other than that, we've

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never talked about it. Again, So that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: You told us about the ominous feeling that you had

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where it felt like something was going to walk upon

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you when you went on that hike in Tulsa that day.

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Did you hear any strange sounds that sounded vibratory in

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nature or did you feel any vibrations before that?

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Speaker 2: No feeling hits you, not that I recall. Nope, not

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that I recall. And there there is a our railroad

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track that's somewhat close out there, but I also live

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right by a railroad track, and I mean, I think

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the vibrations you're talking about is a lot different than

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the vibrations of a train.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, more than likely. The reason why I asked that

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is some eyewitnesses, when they get hit with them for sound,

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that's what they report. They hear this kind of like

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a vibratory sound that I guess you almost have to

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be listening for it to notice. But sometimes they report

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that other people don't hear anything like that, but they

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feel some kind of a funny vibration because if they

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are being hit with them for sound, they can feel

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it sometimes. So that's why I was asking about that. Now,

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a little over a year later, when you and Mike

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heard that sniffing in the Buffalo National River area, how

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close was cover to your cobalt that could have concealed

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a sasquatch?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I mean we were just parked on this dirt road

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and there was tree coverage on both sides, and it

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was July, so there was definitely leaves on the trees.

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We pretty much were in an area of full canopy coverage.

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So however long a dirt road is, you know, I

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I don't really think it was like ten feet away

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when that happened.

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Speaker 3: It's actually really hard to judge because.

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Speaker 2: I mean it, if you know what a dog sniffing

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sounds like, this was like bigger than that. And if

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it had been right next to it, I don't know,

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we maybe would have seen it or smelt it or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if the sniffing was louder than what you would

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expect from a dog, then you're seeing that you're pretty

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sure it could have been loud enough and enough volume

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of ear moving where it just might have been a

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sasquatch sniffing. Yes, Okay, I see. If that's the case,

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how sure are you or aren't you that it might

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have been that same sasquatch you saw just moments later.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I believe it was.

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Speaker 2: I believe it heard us come into the area, and

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you know, maybe it was curious it possibly maybe because

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we were, you know, smoking, Like I said that, maybe

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that's why it was sniffing. I'm I'm not sure. I've

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I've heard some native legends. How you know, if you're

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going out into the woods, you should give a tobacco offering.

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I didn't know about it back then, but I found

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out about that years later.

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Speaker 1: You're a spot on. Yeah, they do seem to be

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drawn to tobacco. But there's a catch though where you're

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at there. Do you know if they grow any tobacco

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in fields? I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that area of Buffalo, I mean, it isn't

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Arkansas as far as I know. The only place I've

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ever lived where they did have tobacco fields was like

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in the Carolinas. I don't think there's tobacco fields in

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that area of Arkansas, especially with it being the Buffalo

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National River right there. I'm sure that land is protected

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and I don't know what they may grow on it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure you're right. You know highly doubt they

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can grow any tobacco around there. The reason why I

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asked about that is if there are a bunch of

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tobacco fields around, then why would a sasquatch need to

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come up to you to get tobacco if you're smoking?

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But yeah, I mean in areas where it's not being grown.

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It does seem like that makes it a lot more

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likely for them to be drawn to you, just like

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with dog men. It seems to make it more likely

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for dog men too to be drawn to an eyewitness

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if they're smoking. So that's something that is kind of

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like an important qualifier for that to actually work. But anyway,

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your brain registered what you saw that day as a

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man running through the woods, but like you said later on,

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you noticed the brown hair on him or it. But

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was its build within the range of what you would

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expect a man's build to be possibly or was there

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just too much bulk, too much size for it to

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have possibly been a man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the silhouette itself was.

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Speaker 2: Man shaped, like it had arms and legs, and its

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arms were in front of it like it was moving

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something away, Like imagine you're walking through a big row

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of beaded curtains like that was the motion it was

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doing with its arms and hands, like it was moving

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stuff away from in front of it. Now, I know

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a bear can stand up right, but I don't think

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it's arms is gonna really go out in front of

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it like that. And I distinctly saw hands, like I'm

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certain of that. So, like I said, I am kind

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of nearsighted, but I was close enough to it that

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I could see that it had hands and that they

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were black and didn't have the hair on it that

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everywhere else on its body had. I did not get

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a look at the face.

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Speaker 1: You didn't get a look at the face, but what

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about its head.

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Speaker 3: Big and there wasn't really much of a neck. It

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just seemed like.

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Speaker 2: The head was right on top of the shoulders and

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the arms were out in front of it. And it

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was just a really fluid motion that this creature moved in.

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Speaker 3: You know it like if a human is running.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be some up and down kind of bouncy movements.

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And this was very smooth, despite the fact that it

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was running through tall grass and trees.

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Speaker 1: If it was running through tall grass and trees like that,

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was it much of a stoop to its posture.

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Speaker 2: Uh not, I didn't really notice that too much. And

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you know, it was so early in the hike. I

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hadn't even considered whipping my phone out yet to like

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take photos, and yeah, we were just getting going on

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this hike, so yeah, I didn't even notice if.

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Speaker 3: All the you know, sounds died down or anything like that.

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Everything just happened so fast. And you know, after I

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had gone to my first.

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Speaker 2: Bigfoot festival, I was talking to like, I was selling

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shirts and stuff, and the lady in the next to

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me was Indigenous, and I ended up telling her about

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my encounter and told her in hindsight, I was really

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disappointed at how scared I ended up being in the moment.

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And you know, she asked me why I felt that way,

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and it's like, because I wanted to see one.

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Speaker 3: And she was like, what makes you think you wanted

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to see one?

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Speaker 2: And it's like, because I think about it all the time,

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Like anytime I go out hiking, I think, oh.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe today's day I'll see a big foot.

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Speaker 2: And you know, she was like, well, he gave you

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your wish then, and it's like, well, then, why was

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I scared? And she's like, well, you mentioned that your

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your partner was scared.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you were just feeling his emotions.

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Speaker 2: And at that time I had I had no concept

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of what the word empathy meant.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, if you'd.

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Speaker 1: Been thinking about sasquatch all the time and pretty much

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anytime you went on a hike, was there a little

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bit of exhilaration mixed in with all that fear when

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you were watching that sasquatch run through the woods or

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was it just nothing but pure tear?

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Speaker 3: I mean, at first it was definitely confusion and then

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and then it was fear.

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Speaker 2: I was not sure if we were gonna get back

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to the car. I do think the thing that flew

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over our heads was a rock, And to me, I

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don't know. I just always got the sense of I

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always got the sense it was a male, possibly like

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I don't know if it was younger because it was big,

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but I always got the sense that it was a male.

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Speaker 3: And the rock throw felt like and stay out like.

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I think it just wanted us to leave. And I

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think if it wanted to, it could have done much worse.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, it definitely could have done that. How tall

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do you think it was?

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Speaker 2: Well, Michael and I had talked about it, and we

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would have guessed between seven and eight feet.

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Speaker 3: It definitely looked bigger than either of us.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so it's bigger than I thought it was. As

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it was moving through the forest, it didn't move up

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and down much at all. He said, it was kind

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of gliding. But even though it was moving that way,

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did you still hear its feet thumping or was it

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pretty much silent as far as footsteps would go.

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Speaker 2: No, it was honestly the sound that we heard was

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the leaves and branches it was moving with its hands.

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It was just like the foliage rustling, is what I heard.

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I didn't hear pounding sounds like footsteps or anything like that,

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so that part was almost completely silent. It was the

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leaves and the branches and stuff that it was moving

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from in front of it that I heard.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and then I didn't even mention.

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Speaker 2: A few years later, I ended up going back with

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a girl I met at a bigfoot festival and just

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past the area where my sighting was. You know how

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I said, the trail starts to go left. There was

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a power line trail right there, so I'm not sure

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if it was paralleling that, but it was definitely between

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the foot path and the power line trail, so it

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was running through the grass and the trees there.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine how many times you've replayed a

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mental video of what you saw that day when you

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saw it running through the woods like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, pretty much every day. I don't think a day

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has gone by that I haven't thought about it.

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Speaker 1: I'll bet yeah. I don't doubt that at all. You

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said the experience terrified Mike. But after all the dust

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had settled from that experience, did Mike develop an interest

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in sasquatch or or did the fear that he felt

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that day just put him off on them forever.

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't get into it, and he really didn't

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even have much interest in talking about it other than

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you know, that initial kind of poking fun and then

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when he acknowledged it when I was telling him about

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seeing a meteor, and then when I just asked him

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about it, like, how would you explain it to someone

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if you were to tell someone what happened from start

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to finish. Those are the only times we've ever spoke

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on it. Now, we do have a son together who

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is ten, and my son was into it, I think

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because I was into it, but his dad has successfully

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convinced him that there is no such thing. So I'm

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not really sure what to make of that. But you know,

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it's not my job to make anyone believe, but I

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do feel confident that just talking about it as openly

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as I do has maybe helped people be open minded

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or you know, I've met one person after I first

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talked about it publicly who told me about an encounter

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that he had thirty years prior, and I had no

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reason not to believe him, and honestly, I was excited

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to hear about it. And he said he told his

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family about it and they all laughed at him, and

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he never talked about it again until he told me

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about it. And it's like, well, that's amazing. You know

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that I felt like a safe space for him to

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be able to talk about it, and you know, knowing

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that he would be believed, and you know that to me,

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that's that's all I can really hope for. Again, it's

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not my job to make anyone believe, but I mean,

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I don't think many days go by where at some

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point I don't talk about Bigfoot to somebody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did that for him coming forward and revealing his

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experience ever make you think about all these other people

477
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,799
you know, and the people you've interacted with on a

478
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,079
daily basis, who might have seen a sasquatch but you

479
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:21,119
don't know it because they haven't shared their experiences with you.

480
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Speaker 3: Oh. Absolutely, yeah, But.

481
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Speaker 1: You'd be surprised if you knew how many? Why do

482
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you think it was that that sasquatch revealed its presence

483
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,640
to you that day when it could have so easily

484
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,599
remained hidden. Now, I know it seems like you threw

485
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,519
that rock to possibly drive you out of the area,

486
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,920
but it could have driven you out of the area

487
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,039
without revealing its presence and showing itself to you.

488
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Speaker 2: Right, you know again, just like I've always kind of

489
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:52,880
gotten the sense that it was a male and just

490
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,880
wanted us to leave. Something else that kind of goes

491
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,079
along with that that I've wondered. I've just wondered a lot.

492
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:07,240
It's like, was there possibly like a female or a

493
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young one somewhere up ahead and it just wanted us

494
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,960
out of there? Or were we just in its area?

495
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,839
You know, I've I've shared this encounter on one other platform.

496
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It's been a long time, and then I did report

497
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:32,920
it to the bfro and that county in Arkansas. My

498
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:36,119
encounter is the only one that's been reported to this

499
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:43,480
specific website, you know, But I've heard on different forums

500
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:47,839
that there have been reports of like an aggressive type

501
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,119
bigfoot in the Buffalo National River area. Like the two

502
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,279
closer towns to where I was at was Compton and Ponka,

503
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And those are both so small, like you blink going

504
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:04,960
through it and you miss it.

505
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Speaker 3: You know.

506
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Speaker 2: There's just like I think most of those towns have

507
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:12,759
like a church and a bank and it's about it.

508
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:17,039
A couple outfitter places and gas station and stuff like that.

509
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Speaker 1: Well, there are a lot of sasquatch in Arkansas, So

510
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:23,519
what you saw is just the tip of the iceberg.

511
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,359
Speaker 3: Right?

512
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,559
Speaker 1: Does it burn you at all? The MIC's convinced your

513
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:32,000
son the Sasquatch don't exist a little bit because by

514
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:35,440
him doing that, you can't just whenever you think he's

515
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,799
ready for it, you can't just openly talk about your

516
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:38,799
experience with him.

517
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Speaker 3: Now, I'll always be open to talking about it, and if.

518
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: He decides he doesn't believe, then that's totally up to him.

519
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,279
I'm not going to tell him he's wrong. I mean,

520
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,240
I've been really really into a bigfoot for like nine

521
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:58,599
years now, and I have no idea what it is,

522
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,519
you know. I feel like the more I learn, the

523
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:06,440
less I know, so like I'll never have all the answers,

524
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,039
and so I can't really tell him he's wrong. I

525
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:12,279
don't know, Like I know, I know what I saw,

526
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,599
but I don't know what it was. If that makes

527
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,240
any sense.

528
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: No, that does make sense, and yeah, that's a true statement,

529
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,640
So nothing wrong with that at all. How about that

530
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,119
hair dresser friend who told you about those other experiences

531
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,160
people have had with sasquatch. How long did you wait

532
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,920
to tell her about your sighting?

533
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:36,119
Speaker 3: I told her I think possibly within a couple.

534
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: Days, and at the time we had actually had a

535
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:47,640
little bit of falling out. We weren't really talking, but

536
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,359
I knew I needed to tell her because I mean,

537
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:54,160
I jokingly call her my bigfoot mom, and the client

538
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:58,119
she had who told her about it, I call him

539
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,359
my bigfoot grandpa, because it's like, Okay, you're who I

540
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,079
learned from it about and he's who you learned from

541
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:04,920
about it.

542
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:05,319
Speaker 3: Okay.

543
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm even using words correctly right now,

544
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:13,119
but yeah, I sent her a message on Facebook messenger

545
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,000
and was like, I have to tell you what happened.

546
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,759
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think.

547
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: That's a big part of why every time I share

548
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,720
the story it doesn't deviate far from the original. And

549
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:26,599
I think it's because I wrote it down right away.

550
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:28,160
When I was telling her what happened.

551
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: I can only imagine the thoughts going through your head

552
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,000
when you told.

553
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: Her, right.

554
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she she still believes in all of that.

555
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if she's had a encounter.

556
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:47,599
Speaker 2: I know she had gone camping with our friend Dennis

557
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,359
a Timer a few times, and I think there was

558
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,160
a night they had like thermal binoculars out there, and

559
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,359
I don't know.

560
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,319
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they saw anything or not. It's

561
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:06,720
been a really long time since I heard the story, so.

562
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Oh, that's all right, no harm enough out there. But

563
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,000
having said that, I can't thank you enough for coming

564
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:15,599
on to share the details of those experiences with this Mallory.

565
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,920
I really appreciate it.

566
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,519
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you having me on. It's been a

567
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:20,559
pleasure of chatting with you.

568
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,039
Speaker 1: Oh you're welcome. It's been fun. And if I can

569
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:25,760
ever help you, please let me know.

570
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,079
Speaker 3: Thank you.

571
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: Oh you're welcome. Thanks again, so much for your time

572
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:40,440
and have a great night. That's it for another episode

573
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,679
of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff. If you've had

574
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,199
a sasquatch encounter and would like to be a guest

575
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,320
on the show, please go to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com

576
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,440
and submit a report.

577
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: We'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, have a great night.