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Speaker 5: Brown Welcome back to shoot Steers from around the world.
Speaker 5: It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files podcast.
Speaker 5: As we record on this Monday, March tenth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: I hope everybody had a great week a great weekend,
Speaker 5: whenever it is we decide to drop this podcast in
Speaker 5: which order it goes in. I just hope everybody is
Speaker 5: doing well. Lots of things going on in the world.
Speaker 5: We have to keep our head on a swivel, as
Speaker 5: we always say. Just a couple of quick items before
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Speaker 5: guest at gmail dot com, and without any further ado,
Speaker 5: let's bring on today's guest. His name is Nathan. Nathan.
Speaker 5: How are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 1: I'm doing very good, sir. How are you doing? George?
Speaker 5: Doing really well? You're still a little bit of strain
Speaker 5: in my voice there. This weather's all over the place.
Speaker 5: I think we almost hit seventy today and it'll go
Speaker 5: down to about thirty five tonight, but we will survive.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, if you will take a few minutes, a
Speaker 5: few moments, if you will, and introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 6: All right, my name is Nathan. My friends call me Nate,
Speaker 6: so I go by Nate. I'm forty seven years old.
Speaker 6: I owned a small window cleaning and power washing company
Speaker 6: in Florida here, so I do that full time. Started
Speaker 6: out in the medical industry at the age of oh wow,
Speaker 6: twenty one years old. My dad had a liver transplant,
Speaker 6: and a gentleman came and took care of them, like
Speaker 6: doing his bandages and stuff. And I didn't have anybody
Speaker 6: speaking into my life at the time, so he told
Speaker 6: me about being in our n and the opportunities to travel.
Speaker 6: So my goal was just to get an our end
Speaker 6: license and travel around and live a bachelor life. But
Speaker 6: I got married and thankfully and have three wonderful children,
Speaker 6: and the traveling dreams put on hope. And during that process,
Speaker 6: I started waking up slowly, like it doesn't happen all once,
Speaker 6: And I'm thankful that it doesn't happen all once, because
Speaker 6: I don't think I, myself, for most of the people
Speaker 6: listening to this podcast, could handle all of it at once.
Speaker 6: So God is gracious and he gives us what we
Speaker 6: can handle. But I started waking up to the medical
Speaker 6: industry and really decided that I like to work outside
Speaker 6: with my hands. So started cleaning windows and power washing houses,
Speaker 6: and I'd run a small crew of four to five employees,
Speaker 6: and so I enjoy I enjoy working outside. I enjoy
Speaker 6: riding around my truck with with what I consider my
Speaker 6: friends that are just.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah.
Speaker 6: So that's where I'm at today. I'm forty seven years old,
Speaker 6: and I looked into a lot of things prior to
Speaker 6: two years ago and was waking up. But I think
Speaker 6: in nine, two thousand and nine, my wife was pregnant.
Speaker 6: We had a hard time conceiving, and swine flu came
Speaker 6: out about that time, and I just remember watching the
Speaker 6: news and I remember very vividly that the media was
Speaker 6: reporting that one third of the country could die from this,
Speaker 6: and which led me and my wife, who was pregnant
Speaker 6: at the time, lining up at the county fairgrounds to
Speaker 6: receive a swine flu vaccine. And as soon as everybody
Speaker 6: got their shot and that shot, propaganda kind of passed
Speaker 6: over the media. It just disappeared from the news and
Speaker 6: the media and I and I said, never again. Well
Speaker 6: I get another shot, another vaccine, and I haven't since.
Speaker 6: So I do religious vaccines, religious exemptions. I'm sorry I did.
Speaker 6: I still do work one day a week at the hospital,
Speaker 6: so I do religious exemptions. And twenty twenty my I
Speaker 6: got a text message that they were mandating this COVID
Speaker 6: shot and I just threw my phone on the on
Speaker 6: the bed and said, well, I quit. I'm not I'm
Speaker 6: not doing this. So but I picked it up, and
Speaker 6: you know, decided I got to fight this and actually
Speaker 6: formed a group and got some really good physicians on board,
Speaker 6: freedom Fighters, and we formed a group called Healthcare Heroes
Speaker 6: of the Treads, and we had one simple goal was
Speaker 6: to just create a beast that can't be replaced and fight,
Speaker 6: and we did.
Speaker 1: We won, Our jobs were threatened, and but we pushed through.
Speaker 6: We we we went from meeting in backyards to filling
Speaker 6: up churches to multiple hospitals around the region. And that's
Speaker 6: basically where I really learned how to fight, so to speak.
Speaker 6: That I knew I was going to be this was
Speaker 6: the first of many fights, and I knew this wasn't
Speaker 6: going to end. But that was the first of many fights.
Speaker 5: So what was the name of the organization? You put
Speaker 5: together Healthcare.
Speaker 6: Heroes of the Treasure Coast and actually started it. And
Speaker 6: then Jane, my good buddy, I called doctor Pasca, he
Speaker 6: actually took it over and he actually did a documentary
Speaker 6: with Stupid Peters. He was in the documentary I forget
Speaker 6: the name of that documentary that was on with Stu
Speaker 6: Peter's show that addressed the concerns of the vaccine with
Speaker 6: the clots.
Speaker 5: He had a few he had the one with doctor
Speaker 5: Artists called watch the Water or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, but go ahead, I don't remember that the name
Speaker 1: of it though. Yeah. And then.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so after that, just I thought that was kind
Speaker 6: of the end, and it led me onto you know,
Speaker 6: fighting at school boards. We had Antifa activity here locally, really,
Speaker 6: and even in this small town, I started seeing the plants.
Speaker 6: I went to a local school board meeting and we
Speaker 6: all were gathered around the flagpole to prey. And this
Speaker 6: gentleman's got a megaphone. I call him gentlemen just to
Speaker 6: because I didn't want to use the I don't want
Speaker 6: to embarrass myself by using the wrong words here. But
Speaker 6: I was shouting and using his megaphone to disrupt the
Speaker 6: prayer on the flat so but nobody was standing up
Speaker 6: to this guy.
Speaker 1: So I called him out and I watched them.
Speaker 6: I watched them walk to the back of a parking
Speaker 6: lot and there was a high end sports car in
Speaker 6: the back, and I said, who's driving that high end
Speaker 6: sports car? And they mentioned a name, and I said, well,
Speaker 6: that's his handler, that's his that's that's the puppet master.
Speaker 6: These and these are at work in small towns, and
Speaker 6: it was just starting to become a parent that it's
Speaker 6: not the same America.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Of all the podcasts I've done, and I've done hundreds
Speaker 5: and hundreds of them, you know, twenty twenty is certainly
Speaker 5: one of the more pivotal years. If you could choose
Speaker 5: five years that certainly said the pace of or set
Speaker 5: the course for things, seventeen seventy five would be one.
Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety three is probably up there. But twenty twenty
Speaker 5: between COVID, the setting up for the JAB and then
Speaker 5: the Summer of love, of course, with everything that happened
Speaker 5: with the destruction and you know, the mockery of you know,
Speaker 5: peaceful protests, and this was just four or five years ago.
Speaker 5: And that's why I tell people it's very important to
Speaker 5: remember what happened, to share the knowledge what happened, record
Speaker 5: what happened, and share it with your family and grandchildren,
Speaker 5: because in twenty years, the history books are going to
Speaker 5: tell a complete lie about what happened. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 5: your grandchildren are going to be told how those vaccines
Speaker 5: saved fifty million people. You're going to be told how
Speaker 5: people willingly closed their businesses and we're heroes, you know,
Speaker 5: for giving up their businesses. So it's important that people,
Speaker 5: you know, share the truth of what happened.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 6: And you know, that's what kind of led me into
Speaker 6: looking into I did not want to look into flat Earth,
Speaker 6: like nobody intends on being a flat earther.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that much.
Speaker 6: But I started talking with my wife and I'm and
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, if our current reality is this fake,
Speaker 6: I say fake and gay. If our current reality is
Speaker 6: this fake and gay, then there's nothing new under the sun.
Speaker 6: There has our history has to be a lie. So
Speaker 6: I had a buddy kept sending me stuff about flat
Speaker 6: Earth and I'm like, no, I'm not looking into this.
Speaker 1: This is too much.
Speaker 6: And he sent me two hundred proofs the Earth is
Speaker 6: not a globe. And I started watching it and I'm like, oh, wow,
Speaker 6: this is interesting for sure. So and you've had so
Speaker 6: many guests on the show that that covering great detail.
Speaker 6: You know how tides work, you know the numerology. I
Speaker 6: can't add to that. All I can discuss is how
Speaker 6: I woke up to it. But just the fact that
Speaker 6: you can see too far was was a big one
Speaker 6: for me. And I looked into the gentleman Samuel Robotham.
Speaker 5: And yeah, the book him, go ahead, the book from.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 6: I ordered his book and I started doing research on him,
Speaker 6: and I mean it's the same script. They they what
Speaker 6: I mean, they I mean the controllers. I mean people
Speaker 6: don't understand like we have controllers, handlers.
Speaker 1: And we're right. They're winning.
Speaker 6: We're right where we're at because a we deserve it.
Speaker 6: We've lost the ability to fight. We don't know how
Speaker 6: to fight anymore. But our controllers control the narrative. And
Speaker 6: this guy, I mean, presents great research, right, it's a
Speaker 6: great book as a great experiment at the Bedford level,
Speaker 6: and he shoved into the base and they just promote
Speaker 6: these Jesuit appointed puppets and they shine the spotlight on them.
Speaker 1: So it was just like twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: But in the past they they crushed the real scientists
Speaker 6: and shine the spotlight on their jesuit puppets.
Speaker 1: So that was enough for me to really look into it.
Speaker 6: I started reading his book, and that's a very detailed book,
Speaker 6: very very detailed on curvature, the mathematics, simple experiments that
Speaker 6: just showed that we live on a fixed and movable earth.
Speaker 6: And so I came to the decision like, we don't
Speaker 6: live on a spinning ball, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: So I was like, how am I going to tell
Speaker 1: my wife this? I told talk to my wife and.
Speaker 6: She just looked kind of shocked, and then she started
Speaker 6: doing her own research. And I came home one day
Speaker 6: from work and she said, ye never going to believe this,
Speaker 6: And I said, what she said. I did a search
Speaker 6: on my phone, a simple search on like the app,
Speaker 6: the Bible app. I typed in the word Earth and
Speaker 6: read every single verse about Earth and all that talks
Speaker 6: about is that being fixed and immovable. And you know
Speaker 6: that was that was just a moment for us, and
Speaker 6: you know, we started that. And you go through, like
Speaker 6: I know that I've listened to some of your podcasts,
Speaker 6: you go through this period of anger at first and
Speaker 6: then kind of like depression, like my whole life is
Speaker 6: a lie. But then you get to a place where
Speaker 6: it's like it's comical. You know, you start looking at
Speaker 6: the NASA photos and they have I mean, you have
Speaker 6: a mug shot in seven to eleven and it looks
Speaker 6: like a blurry alien and but we can see rocks
Speaker 6: on Mars and it's just it's absolutely hilarious. So but uh,
Speaker 6: I bought my own icon. I typed in a YouTube
Speaker 6: video Nikon P one thousand stars Stars viewed by Nikon
Speaker 6: P one thousand or something like that, and started watching
Speaker 6: videos of stars and Wow, that kept me awake at night.
Speaker 6: And the first comment that I read was and I'll
Speaker 6: never forget this comment. The first comment I read on
Speaker 6: the video was stars are in water, just like the
Speaker 6: Bible describes.
Speaker 1: My whole life is a lie that hit hard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's one. If you type in like you said
Speaker 5: stars viewed by Nikon p. One thousand, I think it's
Speaker 5: the second or third one, it'll say real star mag
Speaker 5: zoom P. One thousand, telescope camera and it's quite obvious
Speaker 5: that the star is in water. And there's several This
Speaker 5: is one of the few things that you can actually
Speaker 5: search on YouTube that doesn't get like switched up, like
Speaker 5: if you just go on in type flat Earth, you're
Speaker 5: going to to get all the Professor Dave nonsense and
Speaker 5: you know, Neil deGrasse Tyson nonsense. But literally, if you
Speaker 5: just put stars viewed by Nikon p. One thousand exactly
Speaker 5: like that, you are going to get actual results. It's
Speaker 5: one of the few queries you can make in regards
Speaker 5: to flat Earth that is actually going to give you
Speaker 5: a semi well an honest video.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I've watched hours of hours of videos of stars and
Speaker 6: found some diagrams that show schematics of vibrations and how
Speaker 6: the over world buildings are built, and they look like
Speaker 6: star patterns that are built into the architecture, and the
Speaker 6: very similar and vibration must have been really a part
Speaker 6: of a society that we really know nothing about because
Speaker 6: we've been lied to about everything. But the Bible says
Speaker 6: that these stars seem praise. So what what the luminaries
Speaker 6: and water vibrations are they making?
Speaker 1: Sound? Unto the Lord?
Speaker 6: And you know, just staying up at night and just
Speaker 6: thinking about this stuff, and it was, you know, I'm
Speaker 6: so glad that I was that the Lord allowed me
Speaker 6: to just break through the indoctrination and and start seeing things.
Speaker 6: And one night I was thinking about I was just
Speaker 6: about to fall asleep, and I thought about the northern
Speaker 6: lights and I'm like, I wonder if those are a
Speaker 6: reflection of God's throne. So I looked up in Revelation
Speaker 6: how it describes God's throne and the colors involved, and
Speaker 6: they match perfectly with what what the northern lights and
Speaker 6: these southern lights and and how how the lights go
Speaker 6: from north to south.
Speaker 1: It's just it's absolutely amazing. So are we are? Is
Speaker 1: God giving us glimpses of His throne here on earth?
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a lot to think about. You know,
Speaker 5: for me some things when you try to comprehend what
Speaker 5: eternity is, that's a lot that can melt your brain.
Speaker 5: And you know, we're post the flat Earth experiment or
Speaker 5: whatever they called it, and that actually worked for the controllers.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of people who well, I don't
Speaker 5: want to say a lot, but there were certainly some
Speaker 5: people who walked away from flat Earth. That tells me
Speaker 5: I'm not sure they ever truly believed it to begin with,
Speaker 5: because it makes no sense to me. Gravity is a theory.
Speaker 5: All these things that they promote as science is simply
Speaker 5: a theory.
Speaker 1: Going back to.
Speaker 5: What you were talking about. Robatham, Samuel Robatham, he's the
Speaker 5: one who wrote a pamphlet back in eighteen fifty that
Speaker 5: was called I Think it is a tetech Astronomy.
Speaker 6: And yes, that's the book I wrote. It's a it's
Speaker 6: a it's a big book. He might have a smaller version,
Speaker 6: but the book I have is thick and small print.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And he basically, you know, said it was like the
Speaker 5: Gleason's map. It was you know, it was for the
Speaker 5: lack of where obviously hills, mountains, depths of the ocean,
Speaker 5: et cetera. But it was a flat Earth with the
Speaker 5: you know, the North Pole was centered at that, you know,
Speaker 5: basically in the middle, and Antarctica was the edge. It
Speaker 5: was the ice wall, right, And he claims that the
Speaker 5: Sun and the Moon were about three thousand miles above Earth,
Speaker 5: and the and basically the heavens were just another one
Speaker 5: hundred miles above it. And again that's his you know,
Speaker 5: he doesn't know as much as you know NASA calling
Speaker 5: this the the you know, ninety three million miles away. However,
Speaker 5: that is more sensical to me than you know, science's
Speaker 5: explanation of Yeah, the Sun and the Moon are the
Speaker 5: same size. One's two hundred and thirty nine thousand miles away,
Speaker 5: the other one's ninety three million miles away. So certainly
Speaker 5: this makes more sense. And I would say he's just
Speaker 5: using an educated gas based on you know whatever. Science
Speaker 5: obviously smarter than me. But he makes a lot of
Speaker 5: great arguments. And this is something I like to bring
Speaker 5: out quite often when people try to say, ah, flat Earth,
Speaker 5: that that just really came back around around twenty fourteen
Speaker 5: or so. This you know, up until the fifteen hundreds,
Speaker 5: it was the accepted version and then like you mentioned
Speaker 5: that Jesuit started pushing it. There was still many people
Speaker 5: around the world who believed, you know, that we it
Speaker 5: was a flat Earth until their writings and teachings finally
Speaker 5: made it around this flat I'm trying to be careful
Speaker 5: how I say it. You know, how it made it
Speaker 5: around Earth, right, not the globe, how it made it
Speaker 5: around our circular Earth. But there was people, you know,
Speaker 5: you can go back to Martin Luther in the fifteen
Speaker 5: hundreds and people like Roba Thom and the other guy,
Speaker 5: William Carpenter. He's another guy. But when you look at
Speaker 5: the official narrative, they are the pseudo scientist pushers, right,
Speaker 5: Robathom and Carpenter. Whereas we realize that, you know, the
Speaker 5: people who push the narrative, the people who are the
Speaker 5: great deceivers, you know, they are the ones pushing the
Speaker 5: pseudo science. This whole We're spinning at one thousand and
Speaker 5: thirty four miles an hour on a twenty three point
Speaker 5: four degree axis, chasing the Sun at sixty seven thousand,
Speaker 5: you know, hurtling through space at six hundred and sixty thousand.
Speaker 5: You know all of that nonsense. Yet, like you said,
Speaker 5: go outside, you stare at the clouds and they're just
Speaker 5: floating gently, the butterflies, and you're telling me all this
Speaker 5: nonsense has gone on at the same time.
Speaker 6: Right, And that's what I do when I have conversations
Speaker 6: with people, and I'm very I have a good friend
Speaker 6: named Ryan that was a part of my waking up
Speaker 6: to flat Earth, and he was talking to me. He's like,
Speaker 6: I don't talk to people about flat Earth unless they
Speaker 6: meet two parameters, and that is, you know, if they
Speaker 6: believe the moon landing, or if they got vaccinated and
Speaker 6: still want another one. I don't even waste your time.
Speaker 6: But if the opportunities are there, I'll talk with people.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I was.
Speaker 6: I was having a discussion with some of the some
Speaker 6: of my friends, and they were talking about the Pyramids
Speaker 6: and isn't it interesting how these stars are lined up
Speaker 6: with stars are lined up with each one of the
Speaker 6: great Pyramids, And you know, they kind of take jabs
Speaker 6: at me about what I believe in biblical cosmology, and
Speaker 6: I said, well, how does that work on spinning ball?
Speaker 6: You know, wouldn't you see a different star over over
Speaker 6: the pyramids every night? And I mean it was like
Speaker 6: watching a computer shut down, like their brains just turned
Speaker 6: off like switch gears. And I could see that spinning wheel,
Speaker 6: and I was like, I'll just leave. I'll let them
Speaker 6: cook right there. And but there's so many once you
Speaker 6: once you see it, you can't unsee it. Like I've
Speaker 6: never met somebody that you know, awakens to Biblical cosmology
Speaker 6: and decides to backpedal and go back to the heliocentric model,
Speaker 6: which all these you know, models that were birth during
Speaker 6: everything's inverted. Like I was talking with my buddy Ryan yesterday,
Speaker 6: He's like, isn't it funny that NASA's out looking for
Speaker 6: water in space?
Speaker 1: In space is water. It's just like the Bible describes,
Speaker 1: the firmament separates the water is above from the waters below.
Speaker 6: You know, the Lord walks on a sea of glass,
Speaker 6: he's right above us, and it's not It's the most
Speaker 6: comforting thing to just trust the Bible over a Satanic
Speaker 6: government alphabet agency, to just say, I.
Speaker 1: Don't care what.
Speaker 6: NASA has shown me, the news has shown me, what
Speaker 6: the dudes undue perfect are telling me, or what this
Speaker 6: final experiment is. I'm just going to trust God's word.
Speaker 6: And when you look up the word firmament, it is
Speaker 6: a hard like see like a hard glass covering that
Speaker 6: separates waters above from waters below. So every time, you know,
Speaker 6: they talk about a meteor's coming and this and that,
Speaker 6: you can just laugh at it because there's no metior
Speaker 6: coming that's going to you know, take us out. They
Speaker 6: always the tactic doesn't change. It's fear, fear, fear, and
Speaker 6: it's uh, it's comforting to know that.
Speaker 5: What's that, Oh, I didn't say anything.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's comforting to know that God's work can be
Speaker 6: trusted in this, even though you place yourself in a
Speaker 6: very small boat and in a category that to be
Speaker 6: ridiculed and mocked. And wow, you'll just believe anything. You're
Speaker 6: that guy, you're one of those.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm at the point now where I wear
Speaker 6: a shirt when I go to church it said, it
Speaker 6: says firmament, and it says home, sweet Dome established.
Speaker 1: And that's simple.
Speaker 6: No one even ask questions, because if they do, I
Speaker 6: just tell them, I say, I know more about the
Speaker 6: spinning ball that you think you live on than the
Speaker 6: fixed and movable earth that we actually live on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's all great points. And I think many
Speaker 5: of us are past that. You know, portion of our life.
Speaker 5: Once you come to the truth, you sure do your
Speaker 5: It changes your life completely. And one of the things
Speaker 5: that does change is you don't worry about what people
Speaker 5: think of you anymore because the truth is everything. It's
Speaker 5: more important than you know, what someone thinks. Obviously we're
Speaker 5: not talking about your significant others. I would hope that
Speaker 5: that wouldn't be the case, but I think all of
Speaker 5: us just to some certain extent, and I say that
Speaker 5: all the time when when whether it's another podcaster or
Speaker 5: someone else that they'll say, why would you want to
Speaker 5: be a flat Earth? Or don't isn't that embarrassing? And
Speaker 5: I just kind of laugh and I said, that's the
Speaker 5: do you get it? Like I knew as soon like
Speaker 5: that was one of the first things I realized was
Speaker 5: people are going to mock you. People are going to
Speaker 5: laugh at you. Do you think do we as people
Speaker 5: really want to be mocked and laughed out? Of course not.
Speaker 5: But we're not going to lie. We're not going to
Speaker 5: lie to ourselves just so people don't laugh at us.
Speaker 5: That should be another, you know, a tick in the
Speaker 5: side of flat earthers for folks. You know that the
Speaker 5: truth is more important than what people think of us. Right,
Speaker 5: it's so important. And getting back to what you said,
Speaker 5: into the firmament, there are fifteen verses in the Bible
Speaker 5: that speak of the firmament, not just one. Right, because
Speaker 5: you know, when we do the podcast have conversations, you'll
Speaker 5: hear Psalms nineteen one, come up, you know, word of
Speaker 5: on Braun, et cetera. But it's in Genesis seven or
Speaker 5: eight times. It's in Psalms, it's in Ezekiel and even
Speaker 5: the prophetic book of Daniel. And you know, like you said,
Speaker 5: the Hebrew word is rakia, rakia, however you say it right, yeah,
Speaker 5: And it's firm, it's solid, it's expanse. It is the heavens.
Speaker 5: You know, it's right above us. And people will say,
Speaker 5: like you said, why is it so important? I still
Speaker 5: it's very important to know where you live, where you
Speaker 5: are right. Once you know where you are, then you
Speaker 5: know where you're going. Knowing that God is literally right
Speaker 5: above you. You can't hide from God. He's not in
Speaker 5: some other dimension like I think when you're a young child.
Speaker 5: At least I did like God was in this other
Speaker 5: dimension you like pass through.
Speaker 1: And that's what NASA wants us to believe exactly, yes,
Speaker 1: but he keeps watch over us like grasshoppers yep. And
Speaker 1: you know, speaking on that though.
Speaker 6: The Tower of Babbel, I mean, God did not want
Speaker 6: them building that tower up into the heavens. And they
Speaker 6: had most likely the help of the enephel them and
Speaker 6: they were storming the throne of God. And we all
Speaker 6: know what happened with the tower Babbel was destroyed and
Speaker 6: the people were dispersed and given different tongues. But it's
Speaker 6: like all of a sudden God changed his mind. He's
Speaker 6: with us, sending probes up to Mars, so to speak, and.
Speaker 1: Like what happened?
Speaker 6: Like when did God change his mind on a storming heaven?
Speaker 6: It just it, really, the things start to make it.
Speaker 6: It starts to make sense once you understand where you're at.
Speaker 6: And you know, I thought, I thought nothing can top
Speaker 6: flat Earth as far as waking up. But once you
Speaker 6: wake up to where you are, then you start waking
Speaker 6: up to when you are. And that's the process that.
Speaker 1: I'm in now, is.
Speaker 6: Where we're at, I mean, I mean when we are.
Speaker 6: The timeline deception are fake history. You know, I'm so
Speaker 6: glad that I didn't get a history degree or indoctrinated
Speaker 6: with history or was it history buff because it is
Speaker 6: so painfully fake that I no longer even believe in
Speaker 6: Christopher Columbus was a was a real character. I think
Speaker 6: that after you know, looking into are what's going on
Speaker 6: even here in America, they want us focus on these pyramids?
Speaker 1: Who built the pyramids? Who built the pyramids? Like who
Speaker 1: built the capitol buildings?
Speaker 6: And so my family and I we watched my lunch
Speaker 6: break and on YouTube, and you start seeing these fire
Speaker 6: narratives and these buildings built after a couple of years,
Speaker 6: and you're like, Okay, everything we've been told is an
Speaker 6: absolute lie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something. And my wife actually spent some time
Speaker 5: watching that this past week and my lunch break catching up.
Speaker 5: It's a lot with the timeline, it's very hard to
Speaker 5: pinpoint a lot of people, including the guess I had
Speaker 5: a few weeks ago, mentioned that seventeen seventy five timeline.
Speaker 1: He did a great job. Lewis did a great job.
Speaker 5: Yeah he did, he really did, and he I think
Speaker 5: he's back posting more videos. So I'm glad he came
Speaker 5: on and had that conversation. And there's a lot, like
Speaker 5: you said, JT follows JC. There's a lot of good
Speaker 5: people out there who you know, whether it's the timeline,
Speaker 5: the little season, those type of questions out there. Uh,
Speaker 5: you know, some very you know, very thoughtful people are
Speaker 5: out there putting some good information out and everybody should
Speaker 5: sure try that again. Everybody should certainly check that out.
Speaker 1: You know. And then it's changed how I approach everywhere
Speaker 1: I go to.
Speaker 6: Like my family and I we went to Asheville, North
Speaker 6: Carolina before the floods hit, and we visited the Biltmore
Speaker 6: and you know, went with a fresh pair of eyes
Speaker 6: and just looking at this building. I don't know if
Speaker 6: you've ever been there.
Speaker 5: I don't think I have. I've been to Carolina and
Speaker 5: lots of areas, but not to Asheville.
Speaker 6: The narrative that they give for this place is, you know,
Speaker 6: just it's it's comical. But then when you go into
Speaker 6: it's out in the middle of just the country. Then
Speaker 6: you go into town and you have these old world
Speaker 6: buildings that are just in Ashville and they're all connected
Speaker 6: by tunnels to the built Moore and they tell you
Speaker 6: that the tunnels were used to you know, transport liquor.
Speaker 6: It's like, these people don't need tunnels that transport liquor.
Speaker 6: They wrote the laws, they can just plug whatever the
Speaker 6: law they want into society.
Speaker 1: So it's a.
Speaker 6: It's a completely you know, every time we travel, like
Speaker 6: going to New York, and we don't go for the normal,
Speaker 6: you know, let's go climb the top of this building
Speaker 6: and go to this park. We're just trying to find
Speaker 6: buildings that don't fit the timeline that we're told and
Speaker 6: kind of just and you know, make up our own
Speaker 6: decisions on what we think is going on in our country.
Speaker 6: Because I think most of these buildings that they say
Speaker 6: were founded in whatever I think that's exactly what they were.
Speaker 1: They were founded.
Speaker 6: And they give us this cowboy and Indian narrative, right,
Speaker 6: you know, and it's it's hilarious, so they the propaganda's
Speaker 6: even there. You know, you grew up watching Cowboy and
Speaker 6: Indian movies. Like, wait a minute, these cowboys and Indians
Speaker 6: are living in these dirt shacks. But two hundred prisoners
Speaker 6: built the austin the Texas State Capitol in like six
Speaker 6: years with prisoners with hammer and chisel and no power tools.
Speaker 1: They just you know, banged it out in six years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and AI is actually disapproving a lot of that theory.
Speaker 5: Now I heard I think he mentioned my lunch break
Speaker 5: I'm talking about Now, you know, he did a AI
Speaker 5: how long would it take to building whatever building it was,
Speaker 5: and I think it was seventeen ninety eight or eighteen
Speaker 5: ninety eight, and the whole thing was was at minimum
Speaker 5: five years, and I think the story was it was
Speaker 5: built in like ten months. And again you're talking about
Speaker 5: you know, primitive tools, et cetera. But another thing that
Speaker 5: people didn't even take into consideration, which he made a
Speaker 5: good waiting about, was the logistics just you know, providing
Speaker 5: water for horses and many locations and the workers and
Speaker 5: food and locations that simply were not near you know,
Speaker 5: the a place that had potable water. So there was
Speaker 5: a lot of logistics questions that don't add up for sure.
Speaker 6: And the photos that they give it's just scaffolding on
Speaker 6: an already completed building with a whitewashed background. Ye a
Speaker 6: fire attached to it. And you know, I was talking
Speaker 6: with my dad about this, and you know, I got
Speaker 6: him on board. He's kind of he's waking up the
Speaker 6: flat earth and he's talking to him about these America
Speaker 6: and the architecture that is here and kind of my
Speaker 6: theories on it. And he said, oh my, you got
Speaker 6: to check out the Harrisburg. No, not the Hairsburg Dansville
Speaker 6: State Hospital in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: So I looked it up.
Speaker 6: I said, well, before I look it up, I want
Speaker 6: to just tell you it's probably built in a couple
Speaker 6: of years. And there's there's a couple of fires attached
Speaker 6: to it. So he's like, no, no, no, there's no
Speaker 6: way they built this in a couple of years. And
Speaker 6: he said, it's in the size of a town that
Speaker 6: it doesn't belong, like it should not be there. It's
Speaker 6: in a like the smallest town. When he was a kid,
Speaker 6: it was in the smallest town, but they always looked
Speaker 6: at this mental hospital and ah, like, what is this
Speaker 6: thing doing here? And I looked it up and sure enough,
Speaker 6: the narrative was built in a couple of years. I said,
Speaker 6: you believe it was built in two years? And he goes,
Speaker 6: there's no way. I said, well, that's the narrative. And
Speaker 6: then they had a fire, and so he really is
Speaker 6: starting to look into things. So we have great discussions,
Speaker 6: me and my dad, and now we were talking all
Speaker 6: the time and trying to do our own our own research,
Speaker 6: and and so we bounced things off each other all
Speaker 6: the time. It's it's really helped our relationship too.
Speaker 5: That's awesome. Another I like to play Devil's advocate, especially
Speaker 5: especially when I'm going down my own journey to the
Speaker 5: true And you know, one of the thing was something
Speaker 5: you mentioned, what about the Native Americans?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: How did they not ever come upon these buildings? Right?
Speaker 5: You know, we're told they lived in tepees, So if
Speaker 5: they were in the United States for all those now,
Speaker 5: I think if you go to Google, the official story
Speaker 5: is that Native Americans have lived here. I think the
Speaker 5: actual quote is tens of thousands of years before good
Speaker 5: old Christopher Columbus and company came over. You know, as
Speaker 5: Bible believers, you know the earth is only sixty five
Speaker 5: hundred years old. So the question I pose is if
Speaker 5: there was, which I do believe, it's a Roman. You know,
Speaker 5: all of these buildings, not just in Washington, d c.
Speaker 5: But many of the old buildings through the country have
Speaker 5: that Roman architecture to them. And like you said, they
Speaker 5: were founded, which means they were found and they were unearthed,
Speaker 5: they were dug up, cleaned up, and the buildings that
Speaker 5: were built then just dwarf anything that is built by
Speaker 5: modern architecture, not necessarily by height that and you know
Speaker 5: in the towers and things of that nature, but just
Speaker 5: sheer beauty and you know, the marble and all this
Speaker 5: other stuff. But the thing, I was like, why, And
Speaker 5: I started searching through Google to see if I could
Speaker 5: find any like old Native American paintings that maybe showed
Speaker 5: old architecture. But I just started looking. I haven't really
Speaker 5: had the time. Is that something you ever thought about?
Speaker 6: I think about that all the time. How the Native
Speaker 6: how they plugged the Native American narrative into our history,
Speaker 6: and it's it's a mystery. I mean, hopefully I'll get answers,
Speaker 6: but yeah, it certainly does seem like there was a
Speaker 6: civilization here that rome was far reaching, and we have
Speaker 6: just you know, become it's freemasonry. I mean, it's they
Speaker 6: found it and it's freemasonry. And you know, the last
Speaker 6: trip we took to New York City, I took my
Speaker 6: whole family five, and we're walking through and we walked
Speaker 6: through Saint Patrick's Cathedral and I'm just like, there's no
Speaker 6: construction company on the face of the earth that could
Speaker 6: build this.
Speaker 1: Maybe there might be okay, I'll give.
Speaker 6: It that with the cranes and the time and having
Speaker 6: both architects, but not with what these people had in
Speaker 6: the eighteen hundreds with power tools and chisels. And we
Speaker 6: walked into Saint Thomas Cathedral and unbelievable the building and
Speaker 6: the backdrop where the altar is. And there was a
Speaker 6: parishioner there at the Catholic church and I said, hey,
Speaker 6: when was this built? And he gave me the year
Speaker 6: that was built? And I said, is there a construction
Speaker 6: company today that could build this if it was destroyed?
Speaker 6: And he said absolutely not. I said, so how did
Speaker 6: they build it? He goes with hammer and chisel. I
Speaker 6: said do you believe that?
Speaker 1: And he goes no.
Speaker 6: I said, well then how did they build it? He goes,
Speaker 6: I don't know, We don't know. But slapped on these
Speaker 6: buildings is a lot of them. It says founded, and
Speaker 6: you know, walk you walk through them and you're just
Speaker 6: how did we never? How did I never see this?
Speaker 6: Because they get us focused on what they want us
Speaker 6: focused on. They get us focused on the pyramids. They
Speaker 6: pump the pyramid story on every history channel, every whatever,
Speaker 6: and they got our eyes off of what is in
Speaker 6: our own backyard and right here in America. And I've
Speaker 6: been to China twice. I adopted a my daughter from China.
Speaker 6: And I wasn't awake when we were in China in
Speaker 6: twenty fifteen. But I was standing in Beijing and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, like we're taking a walk in the
Speaker 6: streets of Beijing and I'm looking at a Gothic chapel,
Speaker 6: like in the heart of Beijing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this doesn't belong here, now, I know.
Speaker 6: I mean every what they call Gothic or dark ages,
Speaker 6: you know, Satan inverts everything. I mean, it's inverts and perverts.
Speaker 6: So were those built during a time when it was
Speaker 6: it was the millennial RGN of Christ and Satan had
Speaker 6: a thousand years to come up with this master plan
Speaker 6: to deceive the nations and has us believing that it
Speaker 6: was dark ages in Gothic, which is sounds evil, but
Speaker 6: it seems like they were the most beautiful and well
Speaker 6: constructed buildings.
Speaker 1: And they don't belong in Beijing. I can tell you that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can tell you that. You know, being in
Speaker 5: Iraq and a lot of places in Middle East, certain
Speaker 5: chapels in Germany, some architecture certainly in Budapest, in Croatia,
Speaker 5: there are you know, as you were speaking, my mind
Speaker 5: was kind of going back in time and thinking about
Speaker 5: all the unique buildings that I've been in in my
Speaker 5: life that we're certainly out of place, especially in Iraq.
Speaker 5: I mean, you go through many parts of the countries
Speaker 5: you have people living in mud huts and then you
Speaker 5: have this just monster palace, right, it's just and of
Speaker 5: course the moss, the zigarette of err, all of that architecture,
Speaker 5: and it is interesting. It's encouraging that a lot of
Speaker 5: people are using their brain to at least question things
Speaker 5: instead of just sitting mindlessly in front of a television.
Speaker 5: I think that was a problem for a long time,
Speaker 5: maybe just because people don't like to read. And with
Speaker 5: YouTube now and videos they can listen and watch. But
Speaker 5: there is a great awakening right now and it's pretty
Speaker 5: exciting to watch. And I tell people all the time
Speaker 5: it is a lot of people are frustrated with this timeline.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people who can see the evil.
Speaker 5: You know, some people are struggling to keep their head
Speaker 5: above the water financially. I just look what happened today,
Speaker 5: you know, the market collapsed, bitcoins down twenty thousand. But
Speaker 5: I've been saying since twenty twenty that the market's been
Speaker 5: artificially kept alive by Blackrocket. You know, almost every day
Speaker 5: for the last five years, the morning stocks go down,
Speaker 5: the afternoon they come back up. And that's just the
Speaker 5: big corporations like Black Rock and Vanguard buying stocks you know,
Speaker 5: on the penny on the dollar, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But in order to bring in the new world order,
Speaker 5: they are going to have to destroy the new one.
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm really interested interested to see where
Speaker 5: we go from here, because we have a pretty dark
Speaker 5: four years, right Nate, And now here we are. And
Speaker 5: I'm not, by any way, shape or form I saying
Speaker 5: Trump is the one responsible for this. But what I'm
Speaker 5: saying is I am seeing an awakening to different levels.
Speaker 5: People are starting to question the narrative. I think it's
Speaker 5: really fun to watch people who have been die hard,
Speaker 5: either Republicans or Democrats, realizing that both parties are corrupt
Speaker 5: and evil, come to light and walk away from that mess,
Speaker 5: which brings us full circle back to the truth, which
Speaker 5: is God. And people realizing you know what I'm out.
Speaker 5: You know that this whole government, which means basically to
Speaker 5: govern your mind, to control your mind. People are walking
Speaker 5: away with that and getting back in the good book.
Speaker 6: Right, and that's that's so important. And you know, that's
Speaker 6: what I love about your podcast. I mean, I've listened
Speaker 6: to hundreds of episodes, and my family, my niece Berkeley,
Speaker 6: she listens all the time. She loves your podcast. My
Speaker 6: sister in law, my brother in law. You know, the
Speaker 6: guests that you've had on, I can't. I can't add
Speaker 6: to what they've done, but I can, you know, simply
Speaker 6: share a my my story and it hopefully it it
Speaker 6: might resonate with somebody that's you know, like, hey, I can,
Speaker 6: I can. I can understand what this guy's saying and
Speaker 6: the process through it. And it's kind of like what
Speaker 6: I was at church a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 6: I knew of someone in the church that was a
Speaker 6: flat Earth, but he didn't know that I knew. And
Speaker 6: the pastor was talking about Elon Musk and going to
Speaker 6: space and all this. So I'm going up the stairwell
Speaker 6: to go pick up my kids and he's walking up
Speaker 6: and I'm walking down. I'm sorry, I'm going I'm going
Speaker 6: down the stairs. He's walking up and I get eye
Speaker 6: contact with him, and I stopped and I said, Elon
Speaker 6: never went to space. And he just paused and looked
Speaker 6: at me, and there's people around, and he smiles and
Speaker 6: he goes, I know that. And I said, nobody's getting
Speaker 6: through that firmament.
Speaker 1: He goes, I know that too.
Speaker 6: And then now you know, we're we talk and text
Speaker 6: and but you know, let's it lets him know that, hey,
Speaker 6: he's not alone, he's not insane. And just because you're
Speaker 6: awakened to something that someone else hasn't woken up to yet,
Speaker 6: it's good to know that there's others out there, and
Speaker 6: you know, we're not insane, we're not crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's the biggest part. That was probably the
Speaker 5: most common email I got from folks, you know, within
Speaker 5: the first six months as well, I'm not the only
Speaker 5: one who thinks that, you know, I just thought it
Speaker 5: was me. And then you start to realize, wow, all
Speaker 5: these people do. And then you start to see and
Speaker 5: I'm not saying my podcast, but you know my podcast,
Speaker 5: and you know, whether it's David Weis or everybody else,
Speaker 5: that the momentum started going. And I think it gives
Speaker 5: people courage, right they look at my podcast and they see, wow,
Speaker 5: two hundred people have come on and they've you know,
Speaker 5: pronounced their love of biblical cosmology and how it has
Speaker 5: changed their life and how it has brought them closer
Speaker 5: to God. So again, yeah, that there is pushback. But
Speaker 5: and I say this off and that just goes to
Speaker 5: speak to how much effort that they the hidden hand,
Speaker 5: the controllers, uh you know insert Luciferian group here that
Speaker 5: they put into it. And the psychology, the subversive.
Speaker 4: They are good at what they do undermining.
Speaker 5: Psychology that brainwashes you with things that you pay for.
Speaker 5: By the way, I tell people all the time that
Speaker 5: if you pay for Netflix, uh especially Netflix, or if
Speaker 5: you pay for Disney, you're literally paying for your own brainwashing.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: It's and that's that's the thing where weakness. You know,
Speaker 6: people haven't learned how to really fight because they're they're
Speaker 6: so good at what they do.
Speaker 1: Like I've I've had buddies.
Speaker 6: Of mine saying I'm done with the NFL, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm all done with it, YadA, YadA, YadA. Well, these handlers,
Speaker 6: they just say, hey, let's pick a team and let's
Speaker 6: make them not celebrate LBGTQ. And next thing you know,
Speaker 6: they're like, Okay, I'm switching from the Dallas Cowboys to
Speaker 6: this team because they're not celebrating OLBGTQ. And just like that,
Speaker 6: the handlers, the small hats, whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 6: have them right back. It's easy work for them because
Speaker 6: people have lost the art on how to fight.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's a great point. I've often argued that I
Speaker 5: think to a certain extent, all of us, at least
Speaker 5: at one certain time or another. You know, obviously, the
Speaker 5: more we can get, the less you're prone to this.
Speaker 5: But I think a lot of people, certainly who are
Speaker 5: still deep into the political spectrum, have a bit of
Speaker 5: Stockholm syndrome. Now, before someone just says, what is he
Speaker 5: talking about? If you think about it, I do believe
Speaker 5: we're free to an extent, but the freedom that we
Speaker 5: are told we have is an illusion where I believe
Speaker 5: we're in an open air prison. In this world. We
Speaker 5: have eternal life, right, we know this world down here
Speaker 5: is temporary.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Our government tells us we have all these freedoms and everything,
Speaker 5: but every single day they pass laws that go against
Speaker 5: the Constitution. By the way, do you know how many
Speaker 5: federal laws that have been passed since seventeen eighty seven.
Speaker 5: Let's say, since we know officially became a country.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: Over three hundred thousand. Oh wow, that you can literally
Speaker 5: get fined or put in prison for three.
Speaker 6: Tell me again, we live in I You know, up
Speaker 6: until a couple years ago, I thought we were the
Speaker 6: good guys, and now I realized that it's a tough
Speaker 6: like there's another tough go to swallow.
Speaker 1: We're not the good guys right now.
Speaker 5: It's I just get be careful how I articulate people
Speaker 5: in this nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that most of the
Speaker 5: people in this country are good people. It's just the
Speaker 5: deception is so deep and we are easily we don't
Speaker 5: question anything.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: We were told within you know, within minutes of the
Speaker 5: greatest you know, criminal act. You know that the greatest
Speaker 5: crime ever perpetrated on our lands. We were told who
Speaker 5: was responsible for it, and we were just willing to
Speaker 5: send our sons and daughter off to die. We didn't
Speaker 5: spend any time looking on it, researching it, investigating the
Speaker 5: crime to see who else was involved. No, we just
Speaker 5: gave it a generic name, the War on Terror, and
Speaker 5: we spent trains and trillions of dollars and you know,
Speaker 5: there's a lot that sub layers to all that I'm
Speaker 5: not going to get into right now, but you understand
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: You can't you can't do it unless you create that.
Speaker 6: You have to create an enemy in the minds of
Speaker 6: the people in order to do the evil that they plan.
Speaker 6: I mean, they planned such a master evil. The only
Speaker 6: way they can pull it off is to make their
Speaker 6: targets seem far more evil than what we could ever
Speaker 6: like what we do. So they're good at it, I mean,
Speaker 6: the false flags and the narratives that they do. And
Speaker 6: once you're awake to it, you just become kind of,
Speaker 6: I say, comically numb. Uh you know, you understand that
Speaker 6: that that the world is just a script. You have
Speaker 6: actors and puppets and and it's it's it's hilarious. My
Speaker 6: dad he still talks about Trump like you know, and
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people that that are for Trump.
Speaker 6: But most of my friends are waking up. They see
Speaker 6: what's going on, and uh uh, he's not what people
Speaker 6: want him to be, the idea of Trump. I get
Speaker 6: why people love him. I mean I had the Trump
Speaker 6: socks and the Trump shirt just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 6: But once you understand who controls him.
Speaker 3: And and you.
Speaker 6: Understand that every the world is just a stage full
Speaker 6: of bad actors and puppets. You just you focus on
Speaker 6: your four walls, your family and what God's called you
Speaker 6: to do, and you know, just fight the fight that
Speaker 6: you're given and.
Speaker 1: Like an outlet.
Speaker 6: For me in twenty twenty, I had to have an outlet,
Speaker 6: So at the age of forty two, I joined a
Speaker 6: local boxing gym and.
Speaker 1: Trained really hard for three years.
Speaker 6: And then finally decided I was going to compete and
Speaker 6: competed in the Golden Gloves in Florida at at the
Speaker 6: age of forty five and had a great coach, my
Speaker 6: coach Gus and actually I actually won the Golden Gloves at.
Speaker 1: One hundred and nine pounds and then was set to.
Speaker 6: Go back a year later, but I drew my resignation
Speaker 6: because they allowed men to beat up women. So I
Speaker 6: belonged on a Facebook group. It was a master boxing
Speaker 6: Master's Boxing, and that does I mean you're good at it.
Speaker 6: Masters just means you're old. Son. Any boxer, amateur boxer
Speaker 6: over the age of thirty five gets placed in the
Speaker 6: category of master's division, so it just means you're an
Speaker 6: old timer. But I belong to this Facebook group and
Speaker 6: there was a lady, her name doesn't matter, but she said,
Speaker 6: I'm with drawing my resignation because I might get I
Speaker 6: might get matched to fight a male. And I'm looking
Speaker 6: at this and there's hundreds of men I call them men,
Speaker 6: but they're not men on this Facebook page. Not one
Speaker 6: of them stood up and like, hey supported her. So
Speaker 6: I made a comment to her comment, was the only
Speaker 6: one that made a comment in support of her, and
Speaker 6: I got told on the back end, this is not
Speaker 6: the time or place for this. So my response was
Speaker 6: when is the time and place? Because for a bunch
Speaker 6: of guys that like to get into a ring and fight,
Speaker 6: you guys are pretty soft and protecting women. So I
Speaker 6: would call up the I would call up the the
Speaker 6: office in Colorado, the Amateur Boxing office in Colorado, and
Speaker 6: since they wouldn't give me my money back, I just
Speaker 6: I wasted their time. I gave my biology lessons about
Speaker 6: every other day, and I had those women so mad
Speaker 6: at me. But you know, I said, have you ever
Speaker 6: been punched by a man? And they would just hang
Speaker 6: the phone up on me. So I would I call
Speaker 6: back the next day Hey, you know who I am.
Speaker 1: My name is Nate.
Speaker 6: You know we're gonna have a little biology lesson today.
Speaker 6: I want my money back. I want one hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty dollars registration feedback. But I really do think that
Speaker 6: I was the only one that was calling in and
Speaker 6: putting in the complaints, and that's all being reversed. But
Speaker 6: you know, our handlers, they create, they create the good
Speaker 6: cup backup scenarios. So now we're going through a good
Speaker 6: cup scenario. Yeah, and everyone everyone thinks that this is
Speaker 6: such a awesome time and it's just they're giving. They'll
Speaker 6: throw crumbs back at you, but you're not eating at
Speaker 6: the table.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got that, right, ma'am. You know one thing
Speaker 5: I wanted to mention before I forget, because you were
Speaker 5: talking about for I had mentioned nine to eleven earlier, right,
Speaker 5: and we were talking about the Tower of Babel. I've
Speaker 5: mentioned it once or twice, but I don't know if
Speaker 5: it was on this podcast or not. You know, Satan
Speaker 5: is about mockery. He mocks everything that God does.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 5: I think nine to eleven was a mockery of the
Speaker 5: Tower of Babel. Right, What was the chapter and Versus
Speaker 5: and Genesis that talks about the Tower of Babel Genesis
Speaker 5: chapter eleven one through nine. You invert that backwards. You
Speaker 5: have your nine to eleven, right, what was the story
Speaker 5: about the group of people building a tower to reach
Speaker 5: the heavens? At the time, those were you know, the
Speaker 5: buildings that were reaching the heavens, and you know God
Speaker 5: destroyed the Tower of Babel, and you know Satan destroyed
Speaker 5: those towers, killing three thousand people, right, And one of
Speaker 5: the disobediences was God's command to be fruitful and multiply,
Speaker 5: And what are we told What really started becoming a
Speaker 5: hot topic after two thousand after that event was over
Speaker 5: population in the carbon and all this other nonsense. So
Speaker 5: I think that was a and it was intentionally happened
Speaker 5: on nine to eleven, because there's your inversion eleven one
Speaker 5: through nine, your Genesis. I think all that was mockery
Speaker 5: and intended to happen on that date for that reason,
Speaker 5: revenge for the Tower of Babel, which also if that
Speaker 5: is the case, I think that would lend more credence
Speaker 5: that we are in Satan's little season right it.
Speaker 6: Like I said when we were discussing before the podcast started,
Speaker 6: I am one thousand percent sure that I live on
Speaker 6: a fixed, immovable earth, God's realm that He created for
Speaker 6: me to love and enjoy life. I'm one hundred percent
Speaker 6: thousand percent as far as the timeline. Each day it
Speaker 6: becomes more apparent that I think we are living in
Speaker 6: the Little Season, and that that it was audience relevance
Speaker 6: that Jesus said what he meant to those people saying
Speaker 6: that this generation will not pass away into all these
Speaker 6: things take place, and we've made it about ourselves and
Speaker 6: created this whole narrative with the Skullfield Bible, which you know,
Speaker 6: pastors don't even look into who funded this Scholefield Bible.
Speaker 6: Go look who funded that thing and who they plan
Speaker 6: to do to that that we're just going to get
Speaker 6: whisked away by a rapture and avoid all these troubles.
Speaker 6: And you know, and it it seems like we're in
Speaker 6: a time of complete deception where everything is inverted, everything
Speaker 6: is perverted, everything is fake, everything is gay. And you
Speaker 6: really have to focus on your relationship with God and
Speaker 6: with your and and family and friends and and and
Speaker 6: just know that you know, if you if you ask
Speaker 6: a pastor are you in? Are you in the Little Season? Well,
Speaker 6: his answers, are he or she or whatever is going
Speaker 6: to say no? But when it describes the Little Season,
Speaker 6: it says it's a time where Satan deceives all the nations.
Speaker 6: So if you think that you are so cunning and
Speaker 6: wise that you can not be deceived by someone that
Speaker 6: had a thousand years to plan, then you're just naive.
Speaker 6: You're you're foolish, and you need to look into things.
Speaker 6: People need to look into things where you know, it's
Speaker 6: it's important to know where we are, but it's also
Speaker 6: important to start to research when we are because our
Speaker 6: our history is is faded, it is fake, and it's exciting.
Speaker 6: Like why my family we enjoy looking into what God's
Speaker 6: showing us about where we're living in the time that
Speaker 6: we're living in, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exciting. I'm not upset about it.
Speaker 6: It was a tough pillar's fault at first, but now
Speaker 6: I'm like, Wow, I'm in a I'm in a really
Speaker 6: small boat here, but God's given me a paddle, I
Speaker 6: can move, I'm good to go, and I'm enjoying the process.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. Great points on all sides. And uh,
Speaker 5: like you said, you know, uncovering things like Christopher Columbus, right,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: See three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I was like, oh, CC thirty three. Now,
Speaker 5: why didn't I why didn't I ever think of that
Speaker 5: right well before? But you know, you know, it's interesting
Speaker 5: because I was taught growing up at one of the
Speaker 5: reasons that he went out and I remember this vividly
Speaker 5: and I'm old man, is that Christopher Columbus. One of
Speaker 5: the reasons he was going on his voyage was to
Speaker 5: prove the Earth wasn't flat, that we lived on a
Speaker 5: globe because because we were told, oh yeah, the people
Speaker 5: on the boats were afraid they were going to fall off.
Speaker 5: But interestingly enough, just about the time you know, it
Speaker 5: started becoming more prevalent on YouTube, around twenty seventeen, that
Speaker 5: they started pushing the idea that, oh, he never set
Speaker 5: out to prove flat earth. What they did was, they said,
Speaker 5: by that time, most educated people already knew the Earth
Speaker 5: was spherical. So once again, this is another for any
Speaker 5: Joe or Josephine that just types in, did Christopher Columbus,
Speaker 5: you know, set sail to prove the Earth wasn't flat?
Speaker 5: You'll get this little thing, which once again is a
Speaker 5: very subtle psychological plant on you right, because when you
Speaker 5: see that most educated people already knew the earth was cirracle.
Speaker 5: That is saying, if you think otherwise, you're not educated.
Speaker 5: So people are going to say stay away from that subject.
Speaker 5: That's how their psychology works.
Speaker 1: And they're good at it. They're very good at it.
Speaker 5: They're brilliant at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 6: And you can't just say, oh, oh, I know what's
Speaker 6: going on and know, our handlers have done a fantastic
Speaker 6: job at programming the masses, and if you think that
Speaker 6: you're apart from that process, then you're just naive and
Speaker 6: ignorant because they have done a fantastic job at programming us.
Speaker 5: And that's the problem is deprogramming is such a task
Speaker 5: and it can take years and years and years. You know,
Speaker 5: it can take a while just to get someone to
Speaker 5: see one truth, just one. And how many lies have
Speaker 5: we been told?
Speaker 6: Yep, one after another. I mean, yeah, it's uh, but
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm so I'm grateful that.
Speaker 1: My kids.
Speaker 6: You know, my wife was a she was an elementary
Speaker 6: school teacher, and she's like, I can't teach these kids
Speaker 6: about the moon landing and they pump that in and
Speaker 6: so she would she would talk to the kids.
Speaker 1: It was I think third.
Speaker 6: Grade, and she would say, here's what they tell us,
Speaker 6: and give them the facts of what they tell us.
Speaker 6: And she would say, but do your own research. And
Speaker 6: but she said she had to get out, like it
Speaker 6: was to the propaganda and the school systems is overwhelming
Speaker 6: and they get these kids from an early age. You know,
Speaker 6: a movie like once you find out about the globe
Speaker 6: that we don't live on the spinning ball, you will
Speaker 6: see it in every single movie. I can't remember one
Speaker 6: movie or show. There's a globe on a desk. It
Speaker 6: starts off.
Speaker 1: Universal has their logo, which.
Speaker 6: Was like in the nineteen thirties, they promoted that and
Speaker 6: it was way before NASA had an the images what
Speaker 6: I call images are computer generated images of the globe,
Speaker 6: and they were promoting that, and you know, you see
Speaker 6: it over and over and then when you're a baby,
Speaker 6: they put these little solar system things over you.
Speaker 1: They're good at what they do. They're very good at
Speaker 1: what they do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I was in sixth grade, in our science class,
Speaker 5: we actually had a mini planetarium in the classroom. And
Speaker 5: when I say many, I mean thirty people could sit
Speaker 5: under it and watch it. It was I mean for
Speaker 5: a public school, it was quite impressive. And as a
Speaker 5: you know, it's known that between the ages of you know,
Speaker 5: three or four, until your teens, the mind is easily manipulated.
Speaker 5: That is the time where it is easily you know,
Speaker 5: your mind can be molded.
Speaker 6: And what do we do?
Speaker 5: And again I'm not pointing fingers. I did it with
Speaker 5: many of my children. But what we do is we
Speaker 5: send them off to the public school system, which is
Speaker 5: ran by at the end of the Luciferians. If you
Speaker 5: don't believe me, go look who owned mcgrawl hill Books
Speaker 5: for many years, right Robert Maxwell, Gallainne Maxwell's father, he
Speaker 5: owned it. Apollo Management, the guy who Leon Black, who
Speaker 5: was friends with Jeffrey Epstein for many years. These are
Speaker 5: the people who are telling us what our history is.
Speaker 1: Yea, these are evil people at work.
Speaker 5: It's very evil and you know, and and again in order,
Speaker 5: what's the definition of insanity doing the same thing over
Speaker 5: and over and expecting a different result. So I do
Speaker 5: believe it is up to this generation, the people in
Speaker 5: this timeline two, to make a difference, to stop doing
Speaker 5: the norm which has got us to this point and
Speaker 5: breaking the matrix.
Speaker 1: It's it's tough.
Speaker 6: Like I never understood the term NPC, the non playable characters.
Speaker 5: But I see them all the time here.
Speaker 1: Man, it's so hard to navigate. But I have I have.
Speaker 1: I keep a little picture with me of.
Speaker 6: Globes, and when someone brings up, you know, if they
Speaker 6: ask me about anything about flat Earth, I just show
Speaker 6: them a picture and it shows each space agencies version
Speaker 6: of Earth, India's version, Japan's version, Russia's version, our version,
Speaker 6: And I say, point to which cartoon you think you
Speaker 6: live on, and they'll point to the one that NASA shows.
Speaker 6: But I'm like, well, India shows their subjects this. They
Speaker 6: think that this is the satellite image or the or
Speaker 6: the space image. So they're not you know, each agency
Speaker 6: they're not. They're very these handlers are very smart at
Speaker 6: what they do, incredibly intelligent at what they do in
Speaker 6: programming people. But they're also there's a form of mockery
Speaker 6: involved that's that's very comical. Like just show them a
Speaker 6: different version of Earth, you know, make Africa six times
Speaker 6: as big, and they'll just eat whatever. I mean, they're
Speaker 6: so dumb. I mean they just consider us.
Speaker 1: Cattle so and yeah, we deserve it.
Speaker 6: I mean we just we just eat whatever they give us,
Speaker 6: and we don't question things like, Okay, how did they
Speaker 6: create this image? Oh, but if you actually go and
Speaker 6: do a little research, you'll find out that they admit
Speaker 6: to making these images CGI.
Speaker 1: So I pinpoint.
Speaker 6: People now, say, which cartoon do you live on? Because
Speaker 6: India things they live on this cartoon. You think you
Speaker 6: live on this cartoon. At the end of the day,
Speaker 6: your whole entire worldview is based on a cartoon that
Speaker 6: a satanic alphabet government agency has implanted into your mind.
Speaker 6: But it's too painful to break free from it and
Speaker 6: to think on your own. So you'd rather stay right
Speaker 6: where you're at than to just question things. Because once
Speaker 6: you question things and you start looking into things and
Speaker 6: how water works, we can see too far the math
Speaker 6: doesn't add up. Your common senses will take over and
Speaker 6: then you'll place yourself in a small boat. But I'll
Speaker 6: tell you what. That small boat's filling up. People are
Speaker 6: waking up, and I'm grateful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that leads me to my next question. And
Speaker 5: I know to a certain extent you've already answered that.
Speaker 5: I want to apply this to people in the truth community,
Speaker 5: who are for the most part, are awake. Why do
Speaker 5: we still have a large portion of the people in
Speaker 5: the truth community not look, not willing to look at
Speaker 5: this one.
Speaker 6: It's a It creates a visceral reaction to people. It
Speaker 6: is so ingrained into them that it's it's too painful,
Speaker 6: that's the only way I can describe it.
Speaker 1: Or it's just.
Speaker 6: I really don't understand why people I get the response
Speaker 6: of what does it matter?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 6: It matters like everything. It means God's right above us.
Speaker 6: They really are trying to hide God from us. NASA
Speaker 6: says they've been everywhere that they've looked at bacteria on Mars,
Speaker 6: and but there's no signs of God, no signs of
Speaker 6: his throne. But his word says he walks on a
Speaker 6: sea of glass right above us. So once you understand
Speaker 6: that we are in a fixed, inclosed system with a
Speaker 6: firmament of of us, God is who he says he is.
Speaker 1: Now there's a.
Speaker 6: Some real hardcore accountability to your life and the actions
Speaker 6: and the decisions that you make, and the type of
Speaker 6: you know, everything, the type of father you're going to be,
Speaker 6: the type of husband you're going to be, everything gets
Speaker 6: put into perspectives.
Speaker 1: So when people say, what does it matter. They just
Speaker 1: don't want it to matter.
Speaker 6: They just want to go on and continue on, you know,
Speaker 6: looking into vaccine injuries and everything else.
Speaker 1: That you know, not bad stuff. But you know, this,
Speaker 1: this is this is a this is a this is
Speaker 1: a tough pillal swallow for people. It really is.
Speaker 5: And it goes back to it's important to know where
Speaker 5: we are in the timeline. And obviously that is something
Speaker 5: that really has just come up in the last couple
Speaker 5: of years and it is very interesting. And then when
Speaker 5: you start connecting the dots with archaeology, the Roman architecture,
Speaker 5: and then you know, you plug it together with you know,
Speaker 5: Satan's Little season, all of it makes for a real
Speaker 5: interesting conversation. And I hope people, and again don't take
Speaker 5: any of this information. I always tell people take this
Speaker 5: information we provide and research and come to your own conclusions.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, if you hear something you
Speaker 5: just you know, oh whatever, that's just garbage that you're
Speaker 5: doing yourself a disservice, no matter, I would guess. I
Speaker 5: would venture to say that the more something like sets
Speaker 5: you off right, there's probably where you go there you go,
Speaker 5: probably more validity to it. If it goes against what
Speaker 5: you've been right. That just goes to say that that's
Speaker 5: how much brainwashing they've pushed into you. So the more
Speaker 5: you're like, oh, that's just ridiculous, that's probably a sign
Speaker 5: you need to investigate it further and.
Speaker 6: Find out who you're not allowed to question, and that's
Speaker 6: who rules over you.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 6: And once you once you find out who you're not
Speaker 6: allowed to question, you'll find out who rules over you,
Speaker 6: and that'll that'll send you on some topics that you
Speaker 6: have to work for because it's illegal in I think
Speaker 6: nineteen countries to question a certain event that occurred in
Speaker 6: World War Two. That's a painful one to go down.
Speaker 6: But I just spend one hundred and forty dollars on
Speaker 6: a book for a paperback book because you can't get
Speaker 6: it anywhere.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not saying like I'm still looking into
Speaker 6: a lot of these things, but I know that when
Speaker 6: they hide something, there's some truth in there, and you
Speaker 6: have to The truth is painful, and it puts you
Speaker 6: in this category of people that like, you're just you know,
Speaker 6: a quote unquote denier, you know, and you're siding with
Speaker 6: evil and like, wait a minute, they demonize everything. I mean,
Speaker 6: history is written by the victors, and usually the good
Speaker 6: guys don't win, but they make us believe that the
Speaker 6: good guys win. There's a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 6: of things to seek out and find out. And if
Speaker 6: they if they're trying to hide it, that's where you
Speaker 6: want to go dig in.
Speaker 5: Yep I wrote on a sub stack a few weeks ago,
Speaker 5: maybe a month ago, was the eighty year anniversary of
Speaker 5: the Dresden bombing. That don't teach that in high school
Speaker 5: in your history class. That don't teach that, tough. Don't
Speaker 5: you know what else they don't teach you. They don't
Speaker 5: tell you about the ten concentration camps that were in
Speaker 5: the United States of America.
Speaker 1: No, they don't.
Speaker 5: They just don't. And that goes back to who's controlling
Speaker 5: the narrative and who's telling you, you know, what to
Speaker 5: memorize and regurgitate in your brain. And if anything is
Speaker 5: said against that, you're to respond with how dare you?
Speaker 1: How dare you? That's right?
Speaker 6: And but if if the truth is not easy, but
Speaker 6: it's worth it, it's it definitely is worth it to
Speaker 6: go digging and looking into things and.
Speaker 1: Man to question question what you've been told.
Speaker 5: That's right, and it is very freeing, and you don't
Speaker 5: worry about meteors hitting you. You don't worry about a
Speaker 5: lot of the things you used to stress about. Right,
Speaker 5: Oh man, Trump, we got to make sure we got
Speaker 5: to get out there and put our signs on our
Speaker 5: front lawn for Trump because if the other person wins,
Speaker 5: we're just we're doomed.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: And just a few years I went from the moon
Speaker 6: landing is fake to Wow, dinosaurs are fake, the news
Speaker 6: are fake, the Earth is not a spinning ball, and
Speaker 6: I don't think we're in the year that we are.
Speaker 6: I mean, this is it happens fast, and I'm thankful
Speaker 6: that it doesn't happen all at once. But the narratives
Speaker 6: that they give us, it's it's comical, but it's also
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm really glad that I didn't specialize in
Speaker 6: one of these topics when I'm when I was in college, because,
Speaker 6: oh man, it's hard to talk those people out of
Speaker 6: their indoctrination because their whole life depends on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, their livelihood depends on it.
Speaker 6: So those are the hardest people to wake up, is
Speaker 6: the ones who whose financial stability is dependent upon their indoctrination,
Speaker 6: and they'll they'll fight that baby all the way to
Speaker 6: the grave.
Speaker 5: Thank god I majored in business and not astronomy or history.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 5: Oh, good stuff, man, this was such a good conversation. Man,
Speaker 5: there's so much to talk about, and thanks to everybody
Speaker 5: for putting them with my voice. It's been a struggle,
Speaker 5: but it's been a great conversation. And uh, Nate, is
Speaker 5: there anything else that you had on your list that
Speaker 5: you were going to touch on that way you haven't
Speaker 5: mentioned yet.
Speaker 1: No, just don't be afraid. Learn how to fight. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's.
Speaker 6: It's not going to These people are not going to
Speaker 6: go away, and you have to learn how to stand
Speaker 6: your ground and as the profit of the Old Testament
Speaker 6: and guard your peep patch and get ready because these
Speaker 6: these these people at work, they're not going to give up.
Speaker 6: So just enjoy each and every day. Enjoy your family,
Speaker 6: enjoy your friends, focus on relationships and cut out the noise,
Speaker 6: dig where you dig where you need to find truth,
Speaker 6: and get ready for a fight because these people are
Speaker 6: not going to give up.
Speaker 5: That's right. We all know how it ends. But they
Speaker 5: think that they're cunning. They think that they can out
Speaker 5: smart God. But afraid I got some bad news for
Speaker 5: those who follow you know, the Luciferians and the people
Speaker 5: who are the deceivers. So they hate Christ, Yeah, they do.
Speaker 5: They're anti Christ, right, that's right.
Speaker 6: So my Savior, Lord and King just we we know
Speaker 6: who wins, and rest in that and you don't have
Speaker 6: anything to worry about. The storm may be there, but hey,
Speaker 6: it's okay.
Speaker 3: Men.
Speaker 5: Amen to that. Brother. Thank you so much for your
Speaker 5: time and reaching out and coming on the podcast and
Speaker 5: and sharing your story.
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you having having me on, and I was.
Speaker 1: I was very grateful to be a guest.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, and of course, as always, thank
Speaker 5: you to the listeners. By the way, I have a couple.
Speaker 5: I have two, not one, but two big announcements coming
Speaker 5: in the in the coming week, so uh, look out
Speaker 5: for that. But that's it for today for Nate. I'm George,
Speaker 5: God bless you. Wal keep your head on a swivel,
Speaker 5: and until we meet again, my friends, we will see you.
Speaker 7: I know it's been a struggle.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had me. I don't feeling tied.
Speaker 1: Tell down about all the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you feeling.
Speaker 3: You smile the same.
Speaker 7: Also, when go from you feel like you've lost.
Speaker 3: Your way, don't give up, no, don't give it and
Speaker 3: never is home. Don't let call the primise. It ain't
Speaker 3: done yet. He's gone up, lad? Why it's a way down?
Speaker 3: Got up? Let me come? Why fright?
Speaker 6: Got up?
Speaker 3: Call?
Speaker 7: I can see the streets inside you.
Speaker 1: Child's are putting up five.
Speaker 7: Oh you're stronger than anything, you.
Speaker 3: Guy.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: You're accepting a bad found you beautiful you shot ride.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're living.
Speaker 7: Breathe, you can hold your head a pie.
Speaker 3: Don't give up, No, don't give in. Never loves home.
Speaker 3: Don't let go on the primies. It ain't done Yet's
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Speaker 3: Don't let go on the primies. It ain't gonfe It's
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Speaker 7: The god up?
Speaker 3: Maybe court? Why surprace down? Got it up cold? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: What sur pray down?
Speaker 6: The God up?
Speaker 3: Stay called?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, gott.
Speaker 7: Don't give up, No, don't give in, never lose home.
Speaker 7: Don't they go oft.
Speaker 1: The primis not and done.
Speaker 7: Yeah's God up playing, Watch and do kind of given
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Speaker 7: thet go out the crimes. It ain't done, others worth
Speaker 7: the living, Watch and do.
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Speaker 3: Conus, oh, the God of needs.
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