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Last Friday Night Show episode six twenty three, you heard
Tonight's guests come on and share several dogman encounters that
he's had, including the most notable one at least in
my opinion, and his the time when he actually picked
up a dogman pop Well on that show last Friday.
We had time to hear about his experiences, but we
definitely didn't have time for me to ask him a
bunch of questions that I've got for him. So luckily
he's agreed to come back and do this Q and
E tonight. Having said all that, Bruce Brown, thanks so
much for coming back.
Speaker 3: Oh great to be here, Great to be here. My
name is Bruce Brown. I'm a former law enforcement officer.
Started out as a patrolman deputy, sure become a sergeant,
then started to patrol become a detective, and then from
a detective, I went to cheap and narcotics stated detective
also and I live here in Tennessee. I'm an avid
bigfoot man and dog dog man. I don't know if
you could call me a researcher, but that's what I
enjoy getting out doing. That's pretty much about the gist
of it.
Speaker 2: You might not be working in law enforcement anymore, but
it sounds like you still stay awfully busy, don't you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I say.
Speaker 1: I try to.
Speaker 3: Go out quite a bit. From our last show after
we got doing doing it, I went out late that
night and didn't have any good responses, but I ended
up going out to call Bigfoot. Got a response from
a dog man, So I got to see a dog
man for about like ten seconds that night. That would
have been my now my lady's encounter, which was December
twenty fourth, or about midnight or so twelve o'clock.
Speaker 2: These things must really be drawn to you. If you
had that recent sighting that we haven't covered, please tell
us what happened.
Speaker 3: What happened there is After I did the show with you,
I decided to go out that night and I went
into Pinterest County, Tennessee. Had a person that had called
me and said they had some unusual things going on
on their property. So I went out and checked his property,
and I went to the far end away from his house.
He had a hay builder with a gate, and they
told me where the key was. So I went there
and unlocked the gate and pulled inside the gate and
went over into the woods. And I'd done some They
put calls knocked on the trees about two or three times,
about every thirty minutes. The wind was blowing pretty hard,
so I couldn't get a response. I got a response,
I couldn't hear it. When I got back almost to
my car. I keep in mind it necessaria, you had
no signal service. I get back almost to my car,
a friend of mine calls me. It's a psychic medium
and says, well, they don't call me, they send me
a text. And just as I'm getting back to my car,
maybe twenty twenty yards from the car, fifteen yards, my
phone pins and I looked down and it's a text
message from a friend of mine that's a psychic medium.
And they said, where are you at it this time?
And I told him, and they said, well, at the
back of your car is a dog man. So I
eased up to the car, and sure enough I could
see the shadow and the red glowing eyes behind my car,
and I just got in the car. I started up
and back it through the gate and back out on
the road and got out and shut the gate and
locked it back and left. So that was a short encounter.
But it wasn't encounter. So this thing looked to be
about six and a half feet tall, didn't growl or
make any noises or anything happen. But that would have
been now my latest encounter that was short. I would say,
no longer than thirty seconds. Of course, it seems like
when you know, when you get into that, it seems
like it's three or four minutes, but it's actually about
thirty seconds. Time tens of slow down when you come
across these creatures. That's pretty much it on that.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said before, they sure are drawn to you.
It makes you wonder what's next. Breus. A lot of
people think dog men are spiritual creatures. What's your take
on that.
Speaker 3: I'm not real sure on that. From my experience, that
could be. I believe it. If it's a werewhoops, it
could be a spiritual one. Generally with a dog man,
other than his glowing eyes, red eyes sometimes could look
like laser beams. It makes you wonder. I'm on the
fence on that from the ones I investigated. Now, the
stories that I hear from other people, they come through portholes,
stuff like that, which can very well happen because the
nature of these these creatures, the way they act. And
sometimes I've had it happen to me that I would
be in a good spot and see one clear as
day and then it just vanished in front of your eyes.
So yeah, that's a possibility, but I've not been able
to prove it, to convince myself one hundred percent of it.
Speaker 2: Anything that can just vanish right in front of your eyes,
my opinion, it's got to be some kind of a
spiritual creature.
Speaker 3: But that's just my opinion, right right, But it's you know,
I'm favoring more that way, but I'm not. I'm not
on my encounters. I'm not one hundred percent for sure.
I've not seen them like walk into what they call
a black hole or they got other other names they
call it. I've not seen them up here just out
of nowhere in front of me. But there is a
lot of people out there that I believe without a
doubt because they're very truthful people and then when I
interview them, I'm looking for flaws in their stories, but
they're consistent, so yes, I have to tend to lean
that way. But for me personally, I've not experienced anything
like that other than the red glowing eyes, which is
I guess you could call supernatural.
Speaker 2: They do have a lot of features that are awfully
hard to explain if you don't go down that road.
So it does make you wonder. If you've had a
dog mean encounter that you'd like to speak with me about,
whether in private or on the show, please go to
Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. Let's go back
to the beginning, Bruce, when you had your first encounter
looking through your scope, you said that you couldn't tell
what you're looking at. It eventually came to within twenty
feet of you in your stand though, And with that
in mind, how close did it get to you before
you knew what it was or before you knew that
it wasn't some normal animal.
Speaker 3: That was about as close as it got to me.
The figure of it, the way it acted, the way
it moved, didn't look it wasn't normal to be a
wolf or something like that.
Speaker 1: It was just.
Speaker 3: Completely unnatural when it took off running instead of a run,
and it had a gallop to it, which again was unnatural,
had tremendously big beat. The ears were they stand up
on the head like a wolf, but it had a
shorter a shorter snout if you would, It had an
extremely long tail. The gallop speed on it was probably
a good twenty to thirty mile an hour when it
took off, and then unbeknowns to me, it circled my
tree stand sometime after it got out of my sight
and I didn't see to see it when it circled
my tree stamp. But when I got out of the
tree stand and I got out of the tree stand
to head back to my truck, at that time I
come across the prince just I would say within fifteen
to eighteen peet somewhere like that, right behind the tree
stand in the tree that I was in, and had
some pretty good massive prints. There had a paper plate
in my backpack and it was just standard sized paper plate,
and I laid it down over the track and then
it covered the track completely. But when I was checking it,
it's like a quarter inch The plate was like a
quarter inch bigger than the pawprint of this, and that
spooked me somewhat. It didn't scare me, It just sort
of earnednerved me that something that big went around me
and I didn't see it when it circled me.
Speaker 2: They really are the masters out there in the woods.
Speaker 1: They are was.
Speaker 2: It's muzzle boxier more pointed.
Speaker 3: It was a little bit boxy, but pointy at the end,
shorter than most k nines that you would see. It
was just again that one had the red glowing out eyes.
When I seen it at a distance, I thought, wol
you know, this is a big wolf or something here.
I mean, even though we didn't have wolves in that
part of the part of the stage at that time.
And then the closer it got, the bigger it got.
And as I was looking through the scope at it,
I just noticed it just it just didn't act like
a canine, and it had some The way it walked
was strange looking. It walked as a sort of a
twist in its hips. But it had massive front shoulders
and real thick front legs and narrowed down towards the back,
and had a extremely long tail. Seemed like the tail
was probably just two thirds as long as it was
it's about all I recognized was that until it spotted me.
Then galloped it took off. It galloped like a big horse,
and that's when I noticed the side of its feet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have some big feet on them, disproportionately big.
If it would have focused on you and circled the
tree that you're in, round and round, round and round,
do you think you would have fired on it?
Speaker 3: No, I'm if. I I'm a type of person and
if I say something like that, and even though I
don't understand what it is, there's no way I would
borrow on it unless they put me in the spot
to where I had no other way out. You know,
that's only way I would borrow on something like that,
because it's clearly not something I'm naturally used to see.
So things I can't explain. I want shoe, do you know? Uh,
it's just uh, it threatens me, meaning I'm back into
a corner and can't get away out of it. It's
coming for me. I wouldn't have any other choice but
to shoot him.
Speaker 2: It's good you show that kind of restraint when you
realize that you're looking at an unclassified predator. What kinds
of thoughts were going.
Speaker 1: Through your head.
Speaker 3: Well, you're you get sort of confused at first at
what you're looking at. You're like, just that's supplit. Second
you're like, is this what I think it is? Is
this just a giant?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: What is this? And you're just you're stunned. You're you're
just trying to figure out what you're seeing. You know,
it's like one of them deals, one of you know,
you close your eyes and open your eyes right back
to make sure you're seeing what you see. It gets
unnerving at times on your first encounters. After you have
a few, then it didn't really anything that really happens
doesn't shock you. You're more intrigued with what you're seeing.
It becomes a somewhat I guess you could have could
call him obsession, because no two are exactly the same.
The other dogmen that I have seen would be as
little something different. They could be a patchy colored fur.
Other words, you could have one that had one in particular,
had a if he was looking at him head on
on his right hand side, his fur was a buckskin color,
but the rest of him was black.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: I had one that I had witnessed that was standing
on a massive rock or boulder that had red glowing eyes.
And when I come up on it, it was standing
up like a wolf wood looking over this big blow
up or big rock if you called it. It was
probably the rock was probably seven or eight feet above
the ground level and it was standing on top of it.
But when it jumped down because it spotted me, it
jumped down to come my way. I slipped him behind
a big tree and it circled me, but circled me
further out. It wasn't a close circle. And then the
next when I slipped behind that tree, when he come
around that tree, he had what I call amber eyes
or gold eyes, and they were no longer red, And
of course they didn't turn red until my way out
of the woods. He shadowed me and then they turned
back red. And that was you know, that's little things.
You catch it sort of question what you're dealing with.
Speaker 1: They just.
Speaker 3: Get your brain to think, and you know, you know
what you see and wear a woof dog man. I mean,
I think they say the experts say there's probably six
or seven different types.
Speaker 1: Of them, and.
Speaker 3: Most of the ones I've seen involved in pretty well
straight ard. They did have different attributes about them, No
too we're exactly the same. Some had a more heavy,
heavy heavy front legs. Some had the elbow that actually
touched the ground with the footpad. That's a different than other.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The puppe that I walked upon had the clear eyes
and he had that print that when when when I
set him down on the ground, that his elbows and
pad touched the ground at the same time. So they're
basically no.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 3: That's exactly the same there. I guess you could call
them sort of like us with we all have the
same limbs and different sizes, our faces are a little
bit different or looks a little bit different. So even
though you can clearly tell where humans but well, all
are different in our own ways, and that's basically the
way that the dog man is. I'm still intrigued with
the red glowing eyes, so that's the reason why I
said earlier. I'm more leaning towards to supernatural, but you
have keeping mindmscle Former Detective. I've got to figure out
and get it in my mind that it's supernatural. Like
I said, I don't see it walking through any portholes
or doing anything that that other than disappearing in front
of them and poof and is gone. And other than
things like that, I haven't experienced portholes or supernatural things,
or you know, it being me being two hundred yards
away from me in a split second, it's ten yards
in front of me. I haven't experienced anything like that.
Speaker 2: If they are supernatural creatures, just imagine all the extra
advantages they would have over us. I mean, even if
they are just flesh and blood creatures, they've got so
many advantages over us out there in the woods that
it's already ridiculous. But yeah, back to the whole. If
they are supernatural beings, that just really ticks it over
the top. It really does. When you notice that dog
man's eyes shift from red to amber and then back again,
do you think that might have just been due to
the angles that you're looking at its eyes at or
do you think it actually changed the color of its eyeshine?
Speaker 3: No, it actually changed. I haven't got that explanation down
pat yet. I believe in frequencies and matter scientific research.
I believe that whether it's so much more smarter than
we are and so much more intelligent, I believe it's
mastered certain things. So that's what's got me hung on
the fence. Not fully they're just super natural, but I'm
getting close to that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think that it could be like the Sasquatch and
use seer stones. It's just it's just a strange creature,
very terrifying. Most people, if you took out in the field,
will you didn't seen one like that? I mean we would,
They would more than likely go into shop.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I just try to keep my wits about me and
try to explain certain things. Maybe maybe when it was
on the rock looking at me, it was focused in
on me as a predator to come after me. And
of course we all know predators have eye shines that
are red. And then out of curiosity, when it goes
down on the round and its eyes changed to what
I call an amber which could be considered a gold color,
and then turned back to red. It has a lot
to do with its intelligence and mastering what I call frequencies.
And that's generally what I've come to the conclusion of.
Speaker 2: When you look at how there are so many eyewitnesses
out there, credible eyewitnesses reports seeing these guys do things
that could only be explained away if they are supernatural creatures,
it's really hard to just dismiss out of hand the
possibility that that's what they are, or at least some
of these guys are. So it really does make you wonder.
Speaker 3: Yes, it does, because it's some of the things they
do are supernaturally in a certain aspect. Of course, like
I said, I'm no expert on but that's a very possibility.
And you know, when I get to that point and
that that happens, I can confirm and say it's supernatural.
And I'll be the first one to say one hundred
percent it's supernatural. And but like I said, I'm on
the pence, but I'm more on the supernatural side because
of the different characteristics about it, the way it moves.
Some I come across that one in particular that followed
me back to my vehicle and hid in an old house.
It had like a laser looking eyes, the red eyes
like produced a laser. Now that one right there, the
old people would call a haint. And because that is supernatural.
But that's again it could be a frequency. I can't
could definitely say it supernatural because I really don't want.
I have to have a little bit more proof in
my mind and investigative mind, but I would I wouldn't
if somebody told me what they've seen in the city
was supernatural, supernatural, I wouldn't call them a liar or
disagree with them, because these things do, some do some
supernatural acts that I haven't been able to actually prove supernatural.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of evidence out there that definitely
supports the idea that's what they are. It's hard to
deny it never did, of course. But did that first
dog man's body proportions give you the impression that it
could have stood up on its back legs and move
around while you're watching it or did that never occur
to you?
Speaker 3: Yes, it could have stood up. The upper portion was
more muscular, and the muscular texture about it was more
human like in the front. That's another reason why I
didn't shoot, because if I don't, if I don't know
what it is, I'm not a type of person just
to shoot and find out later. So I try to
something I don't understand. I don't want to kill it.
I don't want to kill anything unless it puts me
in the spot. Did I have no other choice? But yes,
it was different too.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it was. How tall do you think
it would have been if it would have stood up
on its back legs.
Speaker 3: Oh, that first one as a tree stand. Wow, probably
one of the more deer ones I've ever I'm across
a good seven to eight feet, more like eight feet,
probably because it had a six to well, it could
even been bigger than that. I figured eight, but had
just six to seven foot tail. The tail was two
thirds of the length of its body. So yeah, you're
looking at seven and a half probably eight feet.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty big man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's long, extremely long.
Speaker 2: Now, I believe it you stayed out for a while.
How long was it that you stayed out of the
woods after you had that first experience?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: The year and a half. Two years after that experience,
it took me. That was one of my hunting spots
on the farm own, and so I didn't go back
there and hunt for a good well, it was two
deer seasons later before I went back there to hunt
in that particular stand. I did do other honey on
other places, but it's more like squirrel hunting, a small
game honey. But yeah, it shook me a little bit,
to be honest, we didn't scare me. It's just I
didn't want to encounter something like that. On the ground
right off. I had had to uh mullered over in
my head, so to speak, trying to figure out what
exactly it was.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine the thoughts it must have been
going through your head after seeing something like that. You
had no clue they were out there. If that encounter
affected you that much, is it safe to say that
that encounter affected you more than any other?
Speaker 3: Uh? It ranks right up there and the probably the
top twenty, you know, So yeah, it of course, your
your first encounters was to creatures like this always affect
you a little bit more, but it ranks right up there.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And now I think I give more thought about this
in over time. So yeah, I guess you could say
it's somewhat uh, affected me longer than the others. Some
that I got had real close encounters with. You know,
they're they're they're the ones you will dream about, you know.
Speaker 2: Now. I understand two years later, when you were a
gen singh hunting, you said that you saw that that
one was watching you from above. Did you get the
impression that was watching you because it was hunting you
that day, or did you think it was just watching
you for another reason?
Speaker 3: Well, generally, I think it was it was basically hunting me. Uh,
it was up on it was up on that bluff,
just staring at me. And ah, it was stretched out
standing up like it it wanted to pounce, like a
mountain wine or something.
Speaker 1: It was just.
Speaker 3: You could see at feet sort of pick up and
sit down. So that's the one that jumped off that rock.
And then when I hid behind a tree, it circled me.
That's the one that its eyes turned color a different
color than red. And I knew then that it wasn't
going to attack me, at least I hoped it wouldn't.
And then that's what I eased out. And then when
I seen you in the kin, it did have the
red eyes. Now that time it was definitely on me.
Speaker 2: You also went on to tell us how after you
made it back to your car that day that you
were trying to leave, when all of a sudden it
attacked your car, like it was trying to rip your
car apart to get to you, to get at you.
Why do you think it waited until then, after you'd
got into the relative safety of your car to start
acting that way.
Speaker 3: Well, at that time, i'd made it up to a
hayfield and the haybuild the fall cut, and they and
they cut it. When they cut the hay and the
fall cut, they cut it pretty close to the grounds.
And what was left was no longer, no longer than
five inches at the most of grass sticking up. And
I made sure I got in the center of the
hayfield heading back to my car. But I wasn't in
a big hurry. It was a stop, slow motion stop, look,
walk a few more feet, slowly, look on guard. And
at that time I had pulled my pistol out, and
I had my pistol out, and then I was talking
out loud, in a deep voice, talking out loud. And
when I got to right about to the car, I
stopped again looking and didn't see anything. And then when
I got in the car, and I had that particular
one I had when I put always leave my keys
in my car. I had left my keys and the
driver's seat under a towel I had in there to
sit on because you get dirty in the woods and
try to keep your car see you clean. I reached
under that towel and I took my eyes off of
that field in front of him, the sight of me.
When I reached up and stuck it in the key
in the ignition and turned it over and it started.
That's when I heard that. It's like something hit my car,
and I just looked up. When I looked up, there's
a massive paul my windshield, and there's another massive paul
over the top of my mirror against the other glass,
the driver's glass, and then the car just pushed down.
The front of the car on the driver's side just
pushed down. And then that's when my windshield cracked and
they started cracking. So I backed out. I didn't know
the extent of the damage until the next day, but
I backed out and turned around and headed home. But yeah,
it was. That was again another exceptionally large one. It
had a when it showed me his teeth through the
winder of my car, windshielded my car, and looking down
the side at me, it's had all had a black
tongue in the inside of its mouth was totally black.
It did have the red glowing eyes, but I didn't
look directly into him.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine the thoughts that must have been
going through your mind.
Speaker 3: At that time. That's intense.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't need to tell you that Obviously it
could have easily broken into your car and gotten you
if it really wanted to Bruce. But with that in mind,
is you were sitting there in shock watching all this,
watching it do that, did you ever get the impression
that what it was doing was just for show, not
trying to actually get to you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's it was a warning, you know, That's
all it was if it wanted me. But that was
no problem. That was no problem. When I got in
to get my key out from under the I'd sat
down on the towel and I had to reach back
up under my right side, uh, under my thigh to
get my key and pulled it out. I had laid
my pistol in the passenger seat, so the pistol was
in plain view of this animal. But there's no doubt
that if it, if it come running and didn't stop,
I mean it, it would have totaled my car. This
thing was just massive and muscular.
Speaker 1: And uh, it.
Speaker 3: Did slobber over the top of my windshield and uh,
you know, when I got turned around to take off,
it did jump up on top of the very top
of the car.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And again, uh, it was looking with his head hanging
over looking at me on the driver's side winder, and
then it slabbered that one window up. So I don't
have any doubt that if it really wanted me, I
think it was just a warm need to get out
of town, telling me, hey, it's time for you to go.
Speaker 2: Well, i'd say it made a perfect ear on that.
It definitely did. Now, when it slobbered on your windshield
like that, did the detective side of you say, Okay,
that's forensic evidence. I need to gather that after I
get home and send that into the labb or did
you just dismiss that?
Speaker 3: No, I just dismissed it. I had to cut my
windshield washer blood on and use the wipers, and then
when I got home, I claimed the windors that stuff
had dried anyway, and I just claimed the winders and
more concerned about my windshield because the bottom part of
the crack had been pushed in enough to where when
you run your hand up across that crack, it would
catch your fingers. So it just didn't. I just didn't
feel the need to collect any samples off of that.
Speaker 2: I understand, like you told us, Unfortunately, it followed you home.
How far did you live from where this all happened, back.
Speaker 3: Then, eighteen nineteen miles when it followed me home. I
don't know whether after I slung it off the top
of the vehicle. I don't know whether it runs behind
the car and I just didn't see it, or by
the smell of me or my car, it just tracked
me home. They come all that way on the roads
and stuff without being seen. Of course, I don't know
that it wouldn't seen. It could have been seen by
people going down the road. A lot of people see
things like that on the road. But it had followed
me home. Yeah, that wasn't a good feeling to of course.
I had a yard dog that and I was home.
I can't remember if it's two or three hours, four
hours somewhere in there. And I had already thought about
it and was calming down over the situation again, like
you asked, wondering if it was actually going to attack
me or was it just a scare to scare me out,
And then the dog later on started barking. And the
yard dogs all have different ways of barking. They have
a different way if they see somebody, they'll bark. They
have a different bark if it's a vehicle coming into
your driveway. Different barks. If you have barments and stuff
around the house, such as coon spots and foxes stuff
like that, they all have a different barking. And the
way he barked, he barked it it's like somebody was outside,
in which he wouldn't buy the human unless I sicked
him on a human. And so I just got up
to see what he was barking at, because you know,
it could easily been a family member of somebody coming up.
And I just didn't see him come in the driveway,
but I went to the back door to open it.
I flipped a porch loud on and opened the big door.
And when I pushed the screen door opened, the dog
run between my legs and then I knew something wasn't
right because it was totally out of his carder. He'd
never done that before. He was not an inside dog.
You couldn't make him an inside dog. He was one
of the dogs that just stayed outside. He loved being outside.
And then you know, it went from there to I
put him eventially put him out the front door, and
he had calmed down quite a bit at that time
over a few minutes and again. He was like I said,
you couldn't keep him in the house. He wanted it
back out. So instead of just open the door and
letting him run out, whatever it was it spooked him.
I was right, he would run back after it. So
I just held his collar and walked him out the
door and turned him loose on the front porch, and
he seemed to be all right. And then when I
went back in and a few minutes it was he
just let out a terrible scream, like something was attacking you.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: I heard that loud howling call scream between a whoop
and a mountain lion toop scream and holler, and then
I knew for the fact something was out there. And
then I already looked out the back door. We got
a flashlight looked out the back door when he first
came in, and I hadn't seen anything, so I just
you know, brushed it off and never thinking about this
creature following me home. Went from that to checking, Uh
had my gun and stuff, and just sitting there checking
and just watching from there. And then like I said,
I went back in the house watching TV again. Of course,
the dogs started screaming in the loudhile I got the
gun went out the front door.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 3: I didn't I shot him there. I didn't take it
a shot at it when the light hit it. Of course,
I seen the red eyes before I even shine a
flashlight on it. I wouldn't the light hit it. It
was evidently what it was. It followed me home. It
was the same one, but it took off running when
I shot up in there, and I pretty much thought
that was the end of it. But the dog come
back in the house with me again, which was unusual
for him, and then he went around each room on
one side of the house, and he come around to
the other side in the house, and when he went
into my bedroom, he went to the north facing winder
and done a slow bark or slow growl with a whimper,
started backing up and sat down. And then he turned
around in just a few seconds later, looking at the
east side winder in my bedroom and started doing the
same thing. So I knew this creature hadn't left. He
was outside the house, and there was no way I
could get around to it without his seeing me on
that side of the house. So I went ahead and
went anyway, and I took my gun out there. I
had a good, good bright flashlight, and I stepped around.
When I got to the corner of the house, I
just stepped out from the corner of the house from
the light and there it stood. And then I shot
it and it took off and it run and went
across the garden into a big set of woods. So
I went back in the house, and this time instead
of my shotgun, I had gotten my two forty three
out of the gun cap had put it in the
living room, and I had picked up a fresh box
of shells a couple of days before that, so I
had to pull box of sheels and waited. Nothing happened.
After about thirty minutes, the dog was walking back out,
so I put him back out. This time I put
him out the back door and stead I let him
go out the front. And the next morning, after day loud,
around six thirty or seven o'clock, I went out and
sat on the gladder rocker drinking my coffee, and I
heard a call. I had been out there probably a
good ten minutes, and I heard this call, and I
was like, whoo, that's him. He's back. So I went,
I got my two forty three and suck a fresh
box of shells in my pocket, and I had already
loaded together with three shells, and I said, left it
right inside the door, and I walked down into the woods,
walked back to outside, and walked across the garden down
into the woods. It's a big, deep holler and the
woods went for about five miles. And spotted it, so
I got into the shady side of the tree. The
sun was on the east coming up, so the west
side of the tree was shady, so I went and
as soon as I spotted him, and he moved in
just out of my sight, I went back and reached
opened the front door and reached in and got my
rifle and went back this time, and then eased down
further and got into on the other side of a
tree that on the shady side of it was on
where I could camouflage myself in And then it made
a move again, and this time, instead of when I
looked through the scope, instead of shooting in, I decided
to shoot the ground was side of it, and I
shot the ground beside of it, and it took off
and it went just a few yards and then went
up on the back side of a tree. It went up,
so I eased down on a few more yards, and
i'd put off two more rounds, and I reloaded, and
then he come out of that tree and hit the
ground and went down to the very bottom of the holler.
And when he'd done that, there was a big spring
down there, and that opening I could see get a better.
I could see him better this time, and sure enough
it was the same one that I had seen in
the woods the day before, and the one that I
had shot that night. And I just shot another six
or seven times and kept I'd move out a few
more yards until I found myself down in the spring branch,
and then I went another one hundred or one hundred
and fifty yards, just taking pop shots at him. And
then he had crossed over into another holler, and I
said there a good two or three more hours and
didn't hear nothing or see nothing. So I went on
back to the house, my guns still loaded, sat down
in the front forest and went in and got a
new cup coffee, come back out, sat down, and I
didn't hear nothing else for a good two or three
more hours. So that was ind of that, and I
pushed him out, and I didn't have any more problems
out of that one.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, he didn't. If those woods by your house
ran five miles into the distance, was a place where
you first saw him when you were agensing hunting in
the direction of those woods relative to your home or
another direction.
Speaker 3: No, they were in another direction. They were in another direction.
Speaker 1: I was on.
Speaker 3: A massive piece of property back to the ward. That
rock was at a steady pace. It was probably a
good to our walk or I first had to encounter
with you.
Speaker 2: Things got awfully in tents that night.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: When he followed me home like that, I just you know,
I truly said and done. That showed me, and I
taught me a lesson not to come straight home when
I haven't encountered, to just take alternate routes. Goes by
a convenience store, a cup coffee, cold drink, or whatever,
hang around for a few minutes, and take some alternate routes,
different roads going home. Ever, go straight home. I was
a valuable or a lesson I learned that night.
Speaker 2: You learned that lesson the hard way.
Speaker 3: Exactly, And it's one you don't forget.
Speaker 2: Oh, i'd say, after you knew it had followed you home,
did you move us in as you could, or did
you keep living there for some time?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll live there another seven years, So yeah, it
was not Uh. By then, I'd had enough encounters that
I was pretty used to the way they reacted, how
they would do, and and that one there was just uh.
I think he was toying within me to an extent,
and may he may have been just as curious about
me as I was him too. Uh where I talked
out loud going through the hayfield, stopping and listening and
not running, and he was probably used to seeing people
run and he was probably just and I know it
was a mail. There was a big nail.
Speaker 1: Uh, he was just.
Speaker 3: I guess he decided to follow me home and check
me out.
Speaker 2: I'd say he did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But yeah, that was a that was a and
it's that don't want to repeat. It's not funny, but
you have to laugh because it was pretty serious that night.
But I've had the other encounters in the of course
with the pupp and stuff, and since then, I've had gosh,
several encounters since that encounter, and it just goes on
and only like I said, sometimes you go out, well
most of the time you go out there, you don't
find anything or have any encounters. But then there's those
moments in times that you you have encounters, and they.
Speaker 1: Can be.
Speaker 3: They can get pretty hairy and tricky on you if
you if you are not paying attention, and you just
got to keep your keep your wits about you, keep
beer pushed out of your mind. Uh, fear will cause
you to make mistakes, and mistakes makes you more vulnerable.
So I'll just try to keep that in mind and
go from there.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you handled these experiences really well. You
sure did Did you get any sleep at all that night?
Or did you stay up? No?
Speaker 3: I stayed up, You know, I stayed up because after
I knew for sure what it was, I stayed up.
That cup of coffee was a blessing that morning, you know,
it's just a.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I stayed up all night. I didn't know what its
plans were, And as daylight come along, I was pretty
pretty satisfied it left. But it hadn't left, and so
I pushed it on out by uh going after it
and shooting, hiding. When they'd show itself, I'd shoot, and
we just kept kept moving till I pushed it out
the area. Yeah, I found out when you run running
into things like that around your homes or your barns,
your bar or on your property. You can give it
a chance to leave. If it doesn't leave, then you
just got to push it. You've got to push it
off your property. You got to get it away from
I don't.
Speaker 2: Need to tell you there are a lot of people
who couldn't do that, So I guess it just depends
on what kind of resources you have and other things
as to whether you can do that or not. And
also too, if you try to push it away sometimes
I can backfire and cause a lot of problems for
you that you wouldn't have had to deal with.
Speaker 3: Well, true, true, But then you'd have to if it
wouldn't leave, then you wouldn't have any other choice if
you're at home, just to shoot it and try to,
you know, make a keel shout out. He wouldn't have
any other choice. Oh sure, I think they thought these
things are smart. They know when they're you mean business
and and at your homes like that, and you've got
nowhere else to go. All you can do is try
to protect yourself. And how we do that, just we
we try to kill something like that. It's just human nature.
Speaker 2: I don't need to tell you. You already know this. They're
definitely not easy to kill. Right the night that dogged
me and jumped out of the cedar tree and went
to that man's barn you're hunting with, if you would
have tried to take a roundabout path to get to
his house, keeping a lot of distance between you and
the barn, of course, did you take a route they
kept you away from the woods when you're doing that,
or what do you have had to go into the
woods to get around that barn.
Speaker 3: In a roundabout way? No, we went. We went to
the barn because we're there were still other ones out there.
We didn't know where they were at when we spotted
the one that crossed the creek in front of us.
They were more on the left of us and more
on the right of us. We don't know exactly how
many there was that night. They could have been three,
they could have been five. We had no other choice
to head down to the barn. We knew it was
in the barn because it was making the Howland sounds.
When we got to the barn, it really cut a shine,
and so we knew it was in the barn, and
we had to make that decision, or basically, we left
it up to the land owner of the guy that
was hunting with us, that owned the barn, whether we
should enter the barn and try to take it out.
So said didn't get in his barn, you know, and
it was pretty close to his house, but out of
I think out of fear, he decided not to go
enter the barn. For us to enter the barn because
he was worried about one of us getting heard or killed.
Speaker 2: That's understandable. Yeah, it takes a lot of nerve to
follow a dog man into a barn like that. When
you spoke with that eyewitness who had his encounter at
Standing Stone State Park, were you there more so to
try to help him deal with his encounter or just
to investigate this sighting.
Speaker 3: No, I was there to help him deal with his encounter.
Another man had called me and said this farmer was
pretty upset. He was, you know, he really needed somebody
to talk to figure out what he was talking about.
And this guy knew that if anybody knew what it was,
it'd be me. So I agreed to talk to the man.
So this guy called this man back. This other farmer
back and told him, said, he's gonna come out and
see you. So when I went there, uh, he was.
He was literally afraid to come out of his house
in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1: And that was a.
Speaker 3: H He had been back his his farm borders his
property line borders Standing Stone State Park.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 3: He'd been backer checking on his cattle. He drove his
little tractor back there, and uh, he had seen it,
and he didn't he couldn't quite understand what it was,
but he knew what he's seen, and he turned the
tractor around and put it in the high gear coming
out of the field and down in old Lane, and
it run at him. And he thought, in his belief
as he was telling me, he thought he had outrun it.
And I told him, no, he didn't outrun it. It
just bluff charged you. And I explained what I meant,
but bluff charging to him.
Speaker 1: And man, he.
Speaker 3: Who's more worried about it coming around the house or
coming in on Humany's wife. And then he wasn't going
back after and checking on the cows and stuff. So
I told him I would, uh, if it was all
right with him, I would come back that night and
call it up or try to, and we did.
Speaker 1: We called it up and uh.
Speaker 3: We first started out in the right inside of the woods.
But then when we we called three different packs of
coyotes that night, but we had one loaner that had
a different voice. I knew what it was, or suspected
what it was, so I told him, I said, it's
just coyotes. Let's go back and sit on your front porch.
So we went and sat on the front porch and
I was using a Johnny Walker game caller that had
a Cayo pup squeller on. It's it's a very intense call,
and so I cut it on and we were sitting
on the porch with her guns and I said, you know,
it's kyotes. They come down, we'll get a shot on them.
And we were there for fire to two hours and
after they got so far down the holler towards his
house or we didn't hear anything else, you know. And
it was a good couple of hours and nothing, nothing
else was going on. So his wife had cooked supper,
and uh, of course he was late eating, so she
come out and brought us a platter pull of fried chicken,
and uh. One of the statements she made to is.
She said, John boys have steered up something that steered
up a bunch of haints, which haints to it's a
country folkus ghosts and spirits and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: So we were sitting her. She had gone back in
and we were sitting there, still running the game collar
and we were talking back and forth in a low voice,
and I had reached over and cut the game collar
off and we sit there to we eat a few
pieces of chicken, and I asked him what do you
want me to do with the chicken, just leaving on
the plate or whatever, and he's like, now, I'll put
it out in the yard. Because he said, I'll just
have to take it out after a while and throw
it in the hall b lot and he said I
don't care about going after I said, okay, I just
threw them out in the yard and we both had
got done. Ian was sitting there drinking it's a glass
of tea, and I told him I'm going to start
the collar back. So I started the collar back and
we were sitting there just really not expecting anything to happen,
and we heard the bones crunching, bones breaking. We knew
it was picking bones. We throwed out there. So I
reached down. I had my We were sitting in a
single chair. It was more like a rocking chair. Yeah,
it wasn't a rock or glider. It was like a uh,
just a straight back wooden chairs. I reached down and
got my flashlight and shouted out there in the yard
in front of us, and there stood a big woop
on his back legs even. I mean, he was tearing
into these chicken bones. And he was eating chicken bones
and didn't paying attentions in the light. And so I
reached over and I cut the game collar off. When
I cut the game collar off, he looked directly at us,
I mean he just boom, looked right at his red eyes,
so I know them, Okay. I had the gun in
my hand and it tore out, running on all fours,
but it went up a big maple tree. It was
a massive maple tree, and we watched it go all
the way to the top of it and get in
a ball on the top of it like it was
hid from us. And of course he shook this farmer
up pretty good. And I told him, I said, we're
going to have to get him out of this tree
and get him away from this house. We had a
shotgun there with a UH number eight low brash shot,
which is bird shot, and we went out in the
yard and abating him. We're to shoot shoot him or
shoot at him. And I said, well, we'll just we'll
just shoot up in there. But so let's back up
and make sure we get in the spot and if
he jumps out of his tree, don't jump down on
top of us. And so that's what we did. We
sit there and shot several rounds in the tree. He
come down the tree chin twelve fifteen feet and then
jumped and hit his driveway, took off running. He went
past the mailbox. We still had our relights on him,
and he was running down that driveway on two legs.
He doesn't come up on two legs and was running.
And then he made a right hand turned and turned
into the woods. And I sit there with him until
a good forty five minutes to an hour after daylight,
and nothing else ever happened. And then talking to him later,
he could hear him off in the distance, but nothing
ever come back down there again and bothered him. So
he was comfortable with that. Now did he knew how
what they sounded? Like he was more comfortable and felt better,
so he just keeps a weapon on him. But that
was the last time he had.
Speaker 1: On his property.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness. He wasn't bothered again, poor man. No one
should have to live like.
Speaker 3: That, right, right, you don't know what you're dealing with,
it cauldn't be scary. Of course, his wife heard a
shooting and she come out there on the porch while
she and she was didn't disbelieve when it hit the
ground and took off running, so she actually got to
see it too.
Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that it must have shook
her up quite a bit by seeing it, But on
the other hand, I'm glad she did get to see it,
so she knew what they were dealing.
Speaker 3: With exactly exactly. And we had no choice but try
to run it off. And then we couldn't leave it there.
We had to run it off, and of course we
didn't have anything but bird shot, and of course it
was a twenty gage shotgun. It was a pump shotgun
instead of a single action like I had. He had
a pump shotgun that he handed me that evening. Of
course I had my rifle in Michael car but I
never got it out and we built it morell I
feeled it full of bird shots. I think it pretty
much got the got the news he wasn't welcome there.
See he never come back it.
Speaker 2: Sure it sounds like it did. And thank goodness you
told us about that dog man pup you held on
episode six twenty three. Did it feel unusually warm to
the touch or did it feel like it was just
about the temperature you'd expect the dog to be.
Speaker 3: He was slightly warmer than you would think, of course
he was. He didn't have any hair on it. It
was fuzzed. He was just a big fur ball. When
he was coming down buying, and then I stuck. I
had a pair of gloves in my pocket, and I
had pulled one of the gloves out, and instead of
putting it on my hand, I just held it in
my hand and stuck it out in front of me.
And when he come down long enough for where I
could reach up and touch his face with a glove,
he never made any attempt to bite the glove or anything,
So I just dropped the glove and reached up and
put my arms around him. Still even made no attempt
to bite me or anything, So I just picked him
up and set him down on the ground and was
looking him over trying to figure out what it was.
And his tail was missing, but he had about a
three inch bloody note gnuves sticking up for a tail.
I don't know whether it was got cut off, bitting off,
or had an accident he lost his tail. He he
could follow me without any problems with his eye side,
and he was turning his head. I picked him up
and I sat down on the ground and set him
in my lap, and I raised his upper lip. Was
looking at his teeth, and I was like, you know, amaze,
how long the teeth he had to be just a
pup and the top teeth were just a little bit
longer than the bottom teeth. And I noticed on the
one side of it there was a pocket next to
the gun, just a piece of skin leathery like that.
I was just out of place, and so I turned
him around, looked to the other side. He had one
on the same side. And then when he shut his mouth,
I had my fingers holding his lips apart. When he
shut his mouth, those bottom teeth went right into perfectly
into those pockets, and then his top teeth hung just
right outside of the skin past the gums over outside
just about a inch like it was tusk, but from
the top instead of the bottom, so they were hanging
out like tusk. He had a short face on him,
meaning a short snout, And while I was looking at
his mouth, I noticed that his mouth was mostly pink
with a black spot here and there, just blotching. And
I pushed the fur backer in the front of his
face where his eyes were, and it was just just
shocked for a second. Because he didn't have rigular eyeballs.
He had looked like two glass eyes that you could
see through. I couldn't see a pupil or anything, but
he could follow my shadow when I was moving around,
he could. He could uh when I was fooling with him,
he could turn and look at me, and so I
knew he wasn't a blind or anything. I was thinking, well,
maybe he's young enough, he's he's not fully got his
sight in yet. But again I don't I really don't know,
because I've never seen that kind of eye eyeball. It
looked like the glass marbles, and you could you know,
you're looking into glass marbles. And I didn't. I didn't
mess with him. Maybe ten or twelve minutes. I sat
down and petted him and stuff.
Speaker 1: And he was, uh.
Speaker 3: He wasn't what you'd call playful, like a little pup
who was really he was more pushy. But he had
big feet, massive feet on him. And so I went
to I said, I've better pick him back up and
set him back up on this spine where he was at,
because I knew there had to be a mother around somewhere,
and so I put him back up on the mine.
When I put him on the bne, it was, well,
I might have to leave him on the ground. But
when I put him on the bine, his claws come
out of his feet and hung the mine, and he
just slowly just went right back up. But now he
had a strange front legs too. His front legs. When
I set him down in that trail, his front legs
from the elbow to the pad touched the ground. His
back legs were regular like a dog should be. So
I knew I was there was something wrong here. I
just didn't know exactly what. And then I I set
him down, and well, there's a mother around here somewhere,
And I put some distance and I went up all
of the trailer around so far, dropped back down the hill,
went into another holler, got on the left hand side
of that holler and started cutting my way back up
the mount mount and mean cutting my way, just walking
at an angle instead of going straight up because it
was so steep, and kept hearing this call. He got
louder and louder and went murror and I sat down
on the rock. I was give out. There was a big,
big flat rock there, and I just sat down on
the rock. And while I was sitting there, I know
something to the left of me down the hill, and
I got to looking, and it was a big black
thing coming around the hill. And the more I watched,
I realized it was a dog man. And then it
was on all fours. But when it got about even
women but still to the left of me, it stood
straight up and looked, and I thought I was hid
and I was being still on the rock, and I
didn't think it could see me from down and there,
but it did. And then I got to when it
stood up and looked at me with those red eyes,
I got this like allergic reaction, heavy breathing, felt like
my throat was closing up. I got up off that
rock and went behind a tree, and I could see
it coming up at an angle towards me. Well, where
I was trying to breathe catch my breath, where my
throat was closing, my heart was beating, hebe I could
hear my heart beating, and I was like, well, if
this thing gets much closer, it's going to hear me
here my heart. So I decided then to go straight
up the mountain. And it's a long ways going straight up.
So I get up so far going straight up, and
I come across this own logging road. It's growed up.
So I stayed on that logging road making my way
up to the top of them because at the top
of the hill is a fence. There's an old logging
roads at the top of the hill, but there's a
fence on my side that I'm going to have to
cross when I get to the top. So I get
up there. It's about a four foot moving water fence
with two strands of barbed wire on top of it,
so that made it about five and a half feet tall.
So I get over on the logging road and some
ATVs and four wheelers and such were had used that
regular so they wasn't grown up have any sapling trees
or anything in it, no high weeds or anything. So
I stayed on it, and I was looking back behind
me and watching go a little piece and stop. Then
I've seen it come up to the fence and instead
of leaping over the fence or whatever, it just stepped
right over the fence. So this thing was massive. It
was a massive creature. So I knew by being familiar
with the area that there was an old barn and
the house that set back in the fields, or not
a field but growed up. Used to be a field,
but now it was growed up in sapling trees. So
when I got to that old house that had no
doors or windows in it, and I got inside of
it and got in a corner where I could see
all the windows and both doors, and I was in
there thirty minutes or so and didn't hear anything or
see anything. So I come out of it right slow
and go around the corner of the house. When I
go around the corner of the house, there's some small
saplings about like broomsticks, and a big brier patch there,
and it goes all the way back almost to my
where my vehicle is, which is still a pretty good
ways off and he's back out. I get back out
on this old logging road and I'm walking in and
all of a sudden, I hear noise to my right
and I just glance over and this thing is on
two legs walking through this brier. It could above be
sapling and he has that red glowing laser eyes. I
named that one laser eyes. So I wouldn't look him
directly in the eyes, because you know the old people say,
you know, if you look something in the eyes like that,
basically a snake, it can chart. Me wouldn't look him
in the eyes. And I just kept walking this stage
of pace with me and I would stop, it would stop,
I would take off, it would take off, and so
I just slowed down my walking to just a slow step,
talking out loud. And it was intrigued by me because
it kept. Every time I would stop, it would stop
and just look me up and down. And I could
without turning my head, I could look with my preperal
vision and see that lasers. It's that laser I going
up and down, and that that was the one I
was talking about earlier that could have been supernatural. I'm
still on the fence but I'm more on the side
of supernatural, which is not convinced just yet. But eventually
made it to my car twenty feet to car. I'm
still watching for it. It had fallen back just a
little bit, but when I turned to look at it,
instead of looking at his face, I looked at his chest.
And then when it let out a roar, I just
raised up, raised my eyeballs up just enough to see
its mouth and its teeth, and then I walked right
around and got into the car and just try to
keep my breathing under control and stuff. So I didn't
pull over somewhere and get stuck because I had to
back up to turn around. I backed up to turn
around and then pulled out easily. It looked through my mirror,
didn't see it, so I took I took that road
back to what I call the main road, which is
a gravel road with just red dirt and gravel. And
when I got back to the chip road, instead of
going right like I come in, I made a left
and I took several different roads, probably drove a good
forty five minutes, and I come out in the state
of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: And then I.
Speaker 3: Stopped at the first convenience store I come to and
went in there and hung around, and the drunk drank
me a cup of coffee, and from there I left there,
cut my way back across through a little town called Thompkinsville, Kentucky,
and then come back out to another littler town called Gameil, Kentucky,
and then drove down from Goameil, Kentucky into Red Bone Springs, Tennessee,
and then used my way home.
Speaker 2: It sure sounds like you've got this down to a science.
Speaker 3: Well, I just didn't want to be followed back to
the house again.
Speaker 2: Can't say I'll blame you there at all. Just for clarity, Bruce.
He said that its eyes were kind of like clear marbles.
It didn't really have pupils, right, I guess.
Speaker 3: That was that was the pup. Yeah, yeah, excuse me there,
go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm sorry after you.
Speaker 3: That was the pup that had the marble eyes. But
it did it did foller my shadow. Other words. Uh,
they didn't have the milky eyes like it was blind
or anything like that. I think it was just young
enough pup that its eyesight hadn't fully developed yet. It
could see shadows, and that's what I was going on.
It could it was. It would look at me when
I moved around, when I sat down on the ground,
it would look straight at me. When I set him
in my lap, hicking his mouth and stuff, he would
all just look up at me. He was aggressive or anything. Uh,
there was no aggression to him.
Speaker 2: If his eyes reminded you of clear marbles, does that
mean that not only his pupils were clear, but the
s clearer, the part that is normally white, if that
was clear as well?
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 3: Yes see, and the pink that you got around your
eyeball that hold your eye socket, and the pink on
him was a blackish purple looking. So the light around
your eyes where him was all clear. It is just
like you said, a marble right inside some one's skull
and it was just clear.
Speaker 2: So if that's the case, he didn't see any blood
vessels in there, no hints of anything like that to
support its eyes.
Speaker 3: No, there was no blood vessels or anything like that
in his eyes. That again might explain when this thing
could have when he got older, could have got red
eyes that glowed or like laser eyes. I call it
laser eyes. Well, it was the one that followed me
out of there after the puff incident, So it could
have been igan, it could have been supernatural. But I'm
just I'm just not sure, you know, I'm just not
one hundred percent sure. I'm on the fence leaning more
that way. So I'll say I'm seventy percent would say
it was supernatural.
Speaker 2: That it's not for it to not have any blood
vessels or anything like that inside of its eyes. It
would have to be supernatural because biologically you just can't
do that. There's nothing to supply blood to those eyes
and keep them vital. So I think that kind of
answers that question right there in my opinion. Well, I'll
tell you what. Having said that, Bruce, we're out of time.
We need to get ready to get out of here.
But two things before we do that. Number One, do
you have any closing comments you'd like to share for us?
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate you having me on the audience left
some convents. Well, I would like to answer a couple
of them. Do I think the dog man pup was blind? No,
I don't think it was blind. The comments about me
not keeping the dog in the house that night, I
tried to, but he's not inside dog. He wanted back
out and a few you know, each time a few
minutes would go by, hour would go by, or two hours,
he wanted back out. So I wanted to make sure
that the audience understood that I wasn't just pitching him
to the wolves, so to speak.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you cleared that up for us. I was
starting to wonder myself. Yeah, things are doing that well.
If you don't have any closing comments, Bruce, there is
one small favor, maybe a big favor, that I wanted.
Speaker 1: To ask of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we go, is there any way that you
would be willing to say? Beef it's what's for dinner.
Speaker 3: Beef is what's for dinner.
Speaker 2: You sound just like Sam Elliott. I'm sure you saw
some of the comments people are leaving and I thought
the same thing. You sure do sound an awful lot
like Sam Elliott.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. Some say I sounded like Johnny Cash.
Say I sound like Sam Elliott.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that you mentioned it, I guess you do
sound like a cross between Johnny Cash and Sam Elliott.
You've got a distinctive voice.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that, and I've had to use it
a lot in law enforcement. Careers. I've never really paid
attention to my voice. M it's just me talking. And
be raised in Tennessee, you get that Southern draw and
when I go uh into other countries or I go
into other parts of the United States, has got a
different accent than I have. I find it amazing.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: We have a few saying here uh. Some people ask, well,
how's your day, I'll say, well, I'm hanging in there
like a hair and a biscuit.
Speaker 2: That's not a pretty thought at all, but that's funny
though we.
Speaker 3: Know that's pretty. That's pretty much everything. I'd like to
thank everybody for the night's comments and listening to the show.
I'd like to thank you for having me on here.
And yes it's been a I like to get to
finally talk about some of my encounters and I have
more and I'm gaining more, which is giving me a
better understanding of these creatures and their different personalities. I
would ask people that who want to start out doing
this type of thing to pair up with somebody that
has some knowledge. Don't go out by yourself being the
first time, and take care of yourself and don't show
any fear. You put fear in your mind, you make mistakes,
you end up hurting yourself or getting hurt. But again
i'd like to thank everybody for listening all the nice comments.
I really enjoyed being on the show. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been really having you. Thanks again so much
for your time, Bruce, would you appreciate it? Then have
a great night.