WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:13.519 On are we recording Welcome to the CECO pre Show 2 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:19.440 for episode four ninety nine, four ninety nine, or as 3 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:22.320 the Germans say for ninety nine. 4 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:25.719 Is that how they say four ninety nine in German? 5 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:32.200 I don't know, or Deutsche Deutsche nine nine, Yes, and 6 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:33.679 that's the internet. So it's true. 7 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:37.000 If German people call Germany Deutschland, why don't we call 8 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:38.240 it Deutschland. 9 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:40.039 Because oh, I know this. 10 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.479 It's just no, you don't know. There's no explanation for that. 11 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:46.119 If they call it Deutschland, it's Deutschland. Why do we 12 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:47.039 call it something else? 13 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:47.520 Oh? 14 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:49.479 We to tell them what their country is called. 15 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:53.399 It's it's something about how what Deutschland means. It means 16 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:59.039 like motherland and motherland threw Latin into frenchified English or 17 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:03.679 whatever like turn it into Germany. But it means motherland. 18 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:04.920 It's it's a it's a whole thing. 19 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.239 It's stupid. The point is Germany is called deutsch Lem. 20 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:07.879 We should call it that. 21 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:10.959 Japan's called Nihan, we should call it that because that's 22 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:13.079 what they fucking call it. Who cares why they call 23 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.560 it that. My dog's name is big Erse. 24 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:19.599 We're not gonna translate that back to mean big Bear. 25 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.280 That's not like I call her that. I call her 26 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:22.879 Big Earth because that's her fucking name. 27 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:24.599 Well, big might mean something different. 28 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:27.719 Big doesn't mean something different in a different language. 29 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:28.040 It might. 30 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:28.840 I don't care. 31 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:30.439 I got you. 32 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.079 Big Earth is her name. Two things rage, Two things 33 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:35.040 now we're starting off. 34 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:38.319 Two things were brought to you by the wonderful patrons 35 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:39.200 at patreon dot com. 36 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:40.920 Slast see whether they like it or not. 37 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.959 Also, did you actually change your dog's name to big 38 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.480 Erse or is it still Ursula. 39 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.280 Urst Lirie curly Sue baby Guts is her official name 40 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:56.879 when you license her. 41 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:58.280 With the City of Saskatoo. 42 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:02.239 Furst Limerie, Curly baby Gut is their name, but we 43 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.879 call her Biggers now. She responds to it. She likes 44 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:06.959 being called big Earth and you go big Earth. She 45 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:09.759 gets very excited because you're talking to her. That's her name. 46 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.080 There you go. Are you sure it's not just the 47 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:13.280 tone of voice you use. 48 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.439 Because you go big Ears and she comes to big Hey, 49 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:17.280 bigger over here. 50 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:20.000 What if you did this Big Earth and she'd like 51 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.360 she's in trouble? Yeah? Yeah, you know what's so incredible 52 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:25.560 about dogs? I promise we're going to talk about some 53 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:27.560 magic the gathering stuff for the people who say, oh, 54 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:30.199 the show starts at six minutes. Yeah, well right now, 55 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:31.800 sucks my dick. 56 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.400 Yeah, I disagree. 57 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.120 We're talking about dogs and what I find so incredible 58 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.039 about dogs, And I'm not talking about the regular stuff, 59 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:43.680 like they're nice and they can sense when you're gonna 60 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:45.560 have a seizure and their man's best and I'm not 61 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:46.159 talking about. 62 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.360 Nobody cares about the thing, only that they're soft and nice. 63 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:53.439 Okay, listen, I can like point to something, Yeah, and 64 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.199 my dog can like do the frickin' math in its 65 00:02:56.199 --> 00:03:00.800 head at what I'm pointing at, Like it knows that 66 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.479 I'm pointing and like the trajectory of my point and 67 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:10.360 it can figure that shit out. She she she, Yeah, Yeah, 68 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.759 I mean dog in general, not just my dog. Dogs 69 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.240 in general can do the math on where the hell 70 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:16.759 I'm pointing. 71 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:19.479 Yeah, it's pretty dope, that's pretty cool. They're very smart. Yeah, 72 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:20.479 I like dogs. 73 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:26.120 Edge of Eternities stupid. I hate it. I was very 74 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:28.879 excited about it, and so were you. You changed your 75 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:33.039 mind on I haven't changed my mind yet, though I 76 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:36.280 am disappointed that station has nothing to do with vehicles. 77 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:39.879 Unless I do crew a vehicle than crew a station 78 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:40.400 with it. 79 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:43.240 Yeah, I could do that. 80 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:45.280 Like I've seen cards that have station that don't even 81 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.520 do anything when you station them, unless there's some kind 82 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:50.800 of mechanic for station that we haven't seen yet. 83 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:55.000 Yeah, the draft shaft, which is stupid. You shouldn't have 84 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:57.240 a thing that doesn't do anything. 85 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.719 Ever, it probably does something, do We should know what 86 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.919 it is, we just haven't yet. The preview thing was 87 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.879 like today news flash, we're recording this episode like way 88 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:10.960 out of sync because I got like a family thing 89 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:15.199 and because I wanted to catch Brando with his pants down. Yeah, 90 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:16.000 don't google that. 91 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:20.040 You can if you want to that. 92 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:22.360 Yeah, okay, so I've got last week's winner too. We 93 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:25.920 haven't done in a few weeks a pre show a winner. 94 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.439 And this was from last week's pre show. We're talking 95 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.720 about decks and last week's episode talking about decks that 96 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.399 we have taken a part in the past. Yeah, okay, 97 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:41.399 so you took apart talk shrill yep, and what was 98 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:49.040 that thee of the B Bay Beyloth Bayloth Entertainer. Yeah, 99 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:53.160 and I've taken apart some like combo decks and decks 100 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:57.079 that were too similar to other decks that I also have. 101 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.959 And we've got a comment that's says they built a 102 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:04.279 morph deck that made sure no one else got an 103 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:07.800 untapped step. He says, pulled that shit off once and 104 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:11.480 decided that he hated it, and that was the last 105 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.240 time I ever played but Morph deck. And I'd like 106 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:15.079 to say good on you. 107 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.319 Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, if you're gonna do a 108 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.040 thing that's like that, to kind of do the thing 109 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:22.680 and take it apart dracogenesis, I built a deck. 110 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:25.920 Yes, yes, it right. I applaud people for doing that. 111 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:29.519 You took the time to actually build a cohesive deck 112 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.360 that does the thing, and then you did the thing, 113 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.160 and like I was, that's cool, I did the thing. 114 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:40.199 Yeah, I appreciate that exactly. And this leads right into 115 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:45.000 episode four ninety nine, tomorrow's topic where I want to 116 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:52.079 talk about how far do you go and specifically, like 117 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:56.160 what is the thing that's like appropriate for me to 118 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:58.959 like expect to do, want to do and for my 119 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:00.879 friends to like it up with? Do you know what 120 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.519 I mean? Like yeah, like and and what is the thing? 121 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:06.560 What is the category of thing? Like how many tutors 122 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:11.000 should I is okay? And how many tutors make my 123 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.720 deck too consistent? What's the power level? What's the redundancy? 124 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:20.360 Should combos be like included in this this category of 125 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:23.720 like how far should I go? You know what I mean? Yeah? 126 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:26.480 And I want I want to look at the categories 127 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.040 and get your opinion because you play at the same 128 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.480 places that I do. I do with the same people 129 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.000 that I do. And I also have some particular examples 130 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.279 with a card that I ordered. Who's who's maybe going 131 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.600 to be the commander of this theoretical deck? Oh dang 132 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.439 that that I want to run past you because you've 133 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:45.560 played against decks that we're going to be talking about. 134 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.040 I promise you. Oh cool, Yes, I promise you, and 135 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:49.560 you're gonna go ah, thank god. 136 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.560 Hey build a new deck yesterday? Did you in the 137 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:53.920 afternoon threw it together? 138 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:54.480 What is it? 139 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:59.000 Clones? Zakashima? Candle keeps sage, baby. 140 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:01.079 I feel like you've done this before. 141 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:03.240 Yeah, I sure have, but now it's better because there's 142 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:03.839 more clones. 143 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.720 I was what kind of keeps saying that's a background. 144 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:07.800 Right, yep. 145 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:11.439 So whenever a your commander comes to play draw card, Yes, 146 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:15.639 whenever commander of leaves play drop card. 147 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:17.759 Uh, does Sakashima let you choose a background? 148 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.000 I did as partner, but I picked a background instead. 149 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:21.959 Can you do that? 150 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:23.399 Nobody seemed to mind. 151 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:27.199 Oh so it's like it kind of has the ability 152 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:29.160 to pair with something and you're just like, hey, can 153 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:30.399 I I just figure this. 154 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.199 I didn't think anybody would give a shit, And during 155 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.399 the one game that I played in nobody cared. 156 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:36.920 Oh, so there you go. 157 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:39.040 I did it and it was good and the game 158 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:41.399 the deck, actually, I think I actually have it down 159 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.879 to having and this is true, zero of its own 160 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:46.759 win conditions. 161 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.680 It only wins off playing my opponent's. 162 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:52.199 Stuff, and that sounds like the absolute worst thing, because 163 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.920 like decks with no win conditions are terrible. Yes, but 164 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.160 I think that this one has like a density of 165 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:00.759 taking stuff like do you. 166 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.399 Take or do you just clone? Clone clone? So you're 167 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:06.279 not even taking, You're not taking what I'm doing and 168 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.800 therefore not allowing me to do it. 169 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.199 Yes, you're just doing it too. Yes, I'm just also 170 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:11.680 doing it. 171 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.680 So somebody's playing Flying Hasting Olivia, get a creature back 172 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:17.560 from your graveyard? Sure, then I. 173 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:21.199 Was playing Flying Hasting equipped Grip, except I and this 174 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:23.279 is true, had three of her. 175 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:25.160 So I was doing it way better. 176 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:30.920 And I was one turn away, one turn away for 177 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:32.000 making pant. 178 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:34.759 Lazas panti lasers. 179 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:39.600 That would just discover into more panty lasers. 180 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:42.399 Over and over and could they could they eat? 181 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:43.720 Does it eat? 182 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:44.759 And do that? Yes? 183 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:46.639 You eat? Be a pant laza and then you get 184 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:48.279 another creature. That's also. 185 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:49.960 I was. 186 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.440 I was so close with somebody wrapped the board before 187 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:54.240 I could in my hand. 188 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.639 Oh, I was so close. But I'm really enjoying that 189 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:58.240 deck so far. 190 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:01.720 I realized that it's like a rule zero kind of deck. 191 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.200 But like I don't put barely but barely. 192 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.480 I don't want to play another partner, you know what 193 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:08.559 I mean? Like I don't want to have another creature. 194 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:11.879 I like this shitty enchantment that I have. 195 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.919 Could you just like not do that? You could? You 196 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:16.799 could literally put that card in your ninety nine and 197 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:17.639 it would be the same deck. 198 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:20.879 Yeah, the deck would The deck would change zero. Oh, 199 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.120 the deck would change zero. 200 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:25.600 So if somebody said, I don't know, man, that seems 201 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.080 pretty powerful, Like that's not how that's supposed to work. 202 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:29.600 Do you mine just playing it in your ninety nine? 203 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:31.639 I have an empty sleeve in the box and then 204 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.759 you just go like yeah, yeah, okay, no way it 205 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:37.360 goes it? Yeah? Yeah, But I had a lot of 206 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:37.840 fun planet. 207 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.559 It's pretty cool, and I sleeved up the final Fantasy 208 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:43.240 vix Mardu pre con. 209 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:45.080 That deck sucks? 210 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:46.399 Isn't that the one you bought two of? 211 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:48.759 Yes, and it sucks. 212 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:51.120 Why did you buy two of that? 213 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:53.559 Well? Because I wanted a bunch of the cards singles 214 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:53.919 out of it. 215 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.080 Yes, But then you wanted to play it. Why didn't 216 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:57.360 you buy a different one that you wanted to play? 217 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:58.000 Well, I didn't want to. 218 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.600 I did want to play it because on paper really good, 219 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:02.320 but in practice it sucks. 220 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.320 It's it's like one of those like the old Commander 221 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:07.679 decks from back in the day, Oh yeah, when like 222 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:08.480 they just were. 223 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:12.519 A bunch of crap I had. I'll bet you that's 224 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:16.799 almost half of my library in my bin and my 225 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:23.919 three power Commander that doesn't get any bigger. For the record, 226 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.879 could get zero creatures out of my graveyard and that's 227 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:30.480 all she does. 228 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:32.440 Have you get my creatures out of my graveyard? 229 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.559 Have you ever tried being good at magic? 230 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.799 Yes, I'm not bad at this game, but the deck 231 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:39.440 is bad. 232 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.200 I was looking through my freakin' graveyard our six power five, 233 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:45.960 power four, power five, power four, power six, power five. 234 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:47.480 You could only get a three drop. 235 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:48.679 Yeah what if? 236 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:49.960 What if she gets bigger? 237 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:51.519 She doesn't, and. 238 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:54.279 If she does, she still only gets a three. So 239 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.320 her deck doesn't fucking work. And even when you do 240 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.000 get something back, it's not tapped attacking. They don't have 241 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:04.159 ETB effects. You just get a creature for fucking two. 242 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:08.480 It's not worth it compared to the other decks that 243 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.080 I have been solidly trounced by. 244 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:22.399 Those decks are good except for Tara geez terrible. Okay, 245 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:24.200 that was a good setup. I like that, Happy that 246 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:24.639 I did that. 247 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.399 I have the winner of last week's boostback game. Remember 248 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.320 when we were talking about that. Yes, okay, the morph 249 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:37.559 deck guy and quish off in quish. 250 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:43.600 Off in QUI hip squish off. If that's you, squish off, 251 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:44.279 get at us. 252 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.759 If you want to squish off, you would squish off 253 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.120 to commander cook at gmail dot com. Tell us it's you. 254 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:53.759 Tell us your mailing address, like where you live, with 255 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.519 the postal code, the zip code, whatever, the whole gimmick, 256 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.159 and let us know if you want to cecio sticker pack. Yes, 257 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:00.639 a Cecio booster pack. 258 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:02.600 Oh yeah, wait, no, you don't want that. 259 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.519 Sees your sticker pack, your token pack. It is not 260 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.720 what I say. I know you said booster or a 261 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:10.960 crimy old pack of magic cards that I don't know 262 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:11.639 some people do. 263 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:12.240 That's weird. 264 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:17.840 Yep, so big big thanks to mister or missus whoever 265 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.879 you are in Squish offish off. Yeah, gets your squish 266 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.000 on and then you won with your morph deck. I 267 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:27.600 played a morph deck back in two thousand and two, 268 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:32.279 a good year when cards smelt good? Man, what was 269 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:36.399 the last booster pack you opened that smelt good? 270 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:37.159 Well? 271 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.960 I mean, I like the smell of of jump starts. 272 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.120 I don't smell like jump starts. 273 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.519 I like the smell of this my chlorine and sadness. 274 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.679 I like the smell of probably tell myself. I like 275 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.360 the smell of Lord of the Rings cards. But they 276 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:55.399 probably just smell like modern magic cards. But I like 277 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:55.799 them more. 278 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:57.320 You've just talked to yourself into. 279 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:59.600 Yes, yeah, it's a psychology. It's a placebo effect. 280 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.080 That's what The last time a Ron Carr brought us 281 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:05.279 like old school booster packs was probably the last like 282 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:06.600 nice smelling cards. 283 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:10.240 Oh yeah, we opened up masks one time. We opened 284 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:16.399 up onslaught Ah yeah those, no, Laura, I don't think 285 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:18.919 Lauren's old enough to smell good, but we did Lauren 286 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.120 one time. I'm just saying, here's how you win next 287 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:23.799 week's booster pack game. You let us know in the comments, 288 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:27.399 like in the comments of the show. Head onto YouTube 289 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:30.000 if you're listening to the audio version, and you let 290 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:35.399 us know the oldest magic packs you've ever opened. And 291 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.480 this counts for like tournament packs if you even frickin 292 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:41.720 remember those pre cons when they used to come in 293 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:44.600 just the deck box you remember, yep, just the little 294 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.559 deck box that doesn't even fit sleeve cards, yep. Or 295 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:51.480 booster packs or old school fat packs. And I'm not 296 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.559 talking about fat packs that come in the box that's 297 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:55.519 like kind of the shape and size of my phone. No, 298 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:56.720 I'm talking about like. 299 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:58.919 They came in two of those boxes with a book 300 00:13:59.000 --> 00:13:59.559 with a book. 301 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:01.679 Yes, yeah, they came with the book and the dice 302 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.120 and and some and a tournament pack or whatever came 303 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:04.399 in them. 304 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:04.799 Yeah. 305 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:05.399 Yeah. 306 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:07.720 It was a book like a novel, and it came 307 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.720 with like a like an actual book that had like 308 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:11.840 all the different cards in it and like little things 309 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.840 that explained all the mechanics. Yes, and they had the 310 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:15.559 binder punch outs in them so you could put them 311 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:17.159 in a binder to keep them with the cards. 312 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:18.399 Those were cool. 313 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:19.399 Yeah, like those. 314 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:21.320 I do miss those, I actually do. 315 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.039 But then you'd have to read the magic novels. 316 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.960 No, not the novels. Fuck them. They're terrible, except for 317 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:27.320 the old one. 318 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:28.519 The old ones are really good. 319 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:30.399 The modern ones were actively bad. 320 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.039 But those like little flip through ones that have like 321 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:34.960 the card, Yeah, I like those. 322 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.039 I enjoy those. I still sometimes go back through some 323 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:38.480 of the ones that I have. It's like, oh man, yeah, 324 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:39.399 I remember this card is. 325 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:42.120 Or you go back and look at them the top 326 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:45.080 ten cards of the set. Yeah, and it's like here's 327 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.559 the cards that we think are fun and they're all shunk. 328 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:50.679 Oh. Here's here's a trip down memory lane. So we're 329 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.320 we're moving. This is years ago, so I'm double tripping 330 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.559 down memory lane because I'm remembering eight years ago when 331 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:59.840 I moved to eight years before that, when it was 332 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:02.799 like like Ryan in high school, are like eighth grade 333 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:06.639 in Quest Gamer magazine, Yeah, and the price Guide an 334 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:09.360 Inquest Gamer. Oh man, And I used to think, Oh man, 335 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.559 if I only had like three hundred dollars, I could 336 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:17.200 buy a black lotus. Fuck if I? Oh man, how 337 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:19.799 come these lands? How come underground? See is like a 338 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.559 twenty dollars magic card. It's just like a land. 339 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:26.000 Oh No. 340 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.120 And they had top ten cards from like from that 341 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:35.000 month based on standard tournaments. Yeah, and I remember I 342 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:38.799 had one top ten card FAREXI and Scuda number one 343 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:40.519 from Plane Shift. 344 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:41.679 Yeah. 345 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.120 It was Kicker Pay three life. It was a three 346 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.279 three for four, but Kicker pay three life it comes 347 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:47.039 into plays. 348 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:47.279 A five to five. 349 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:51.879 There was Skizzix, a five to three haste that if 350 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:56.279 you paid an extra one it doesn't sacrifice at end 351 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.320 of turn five to three trample haste. It was kind 352 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:01.720 of like ball Lightning yep. And then randomly Birds of 353 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:05.399 Paradise was on there, and Blasted Dorm was on there, 354 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.240 Fires of Yava Maaya was on there. 355 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:12.519 That's still a playing card. The rest of those ones 356 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:16.399 are not. Where does he gets played? Yeah? 357 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:18.759 I don't think Frexian Scuta sees very much playing though. 358 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:23.679 It is a zombie. Blasted Dorm has fading, and it's 359 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:25.639 a five to five for four. Birds of Paradise STI 360 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.200 gets played. Yeah, Birds of Paradise Yeah yeah, yeah, I 361 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.679 bet you, I bet you Mac Attack he plays Skizzs 362 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.159 I bet you, yeah yeah, because it sacrifices it into 363 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:38.200 turn and it's five power trample haste for four whatever. 364 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:38.639 Yeah. 365 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.120 So if if you triple its damage with Jessica, the 366 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:46.480 Commander deals like fifteen. Yeah, so some of those cards 367 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:50.320 still get played. That's tripped down memory lane. 368 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:51.360 Yeah. Yeah. 369 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.480 Oldest magic card pack you ever opened, worst deck you 370 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:57.720 ever built, you hate it, worst pre con you ever 371 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:01.320 spent money on. Finally can sleeved up a pre con 372 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:03.360 and it was just terrible. That was an awful game. 373 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:05.839 You gotta like you gotta rule zero it where you say, okay, 374 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.039 this is a pre con battle, but you can only 375 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:15.200 play decks from before twenty fifteen. Yeah, so no ATTRACTSA 376 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:19.880 and no universes beyond anything. Yeah yeah yeah, and then 377 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:22.359 somebody will sit down with like og Anamar and just 378 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:23.519 fucking pound you. 379 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:24.759 That deck wasn't that good either? 380 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.200 Well it's cut Pro White and pro Black. 381 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:31.720 Well yeah yeah, oh yeah. 382 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:36.759 What's the oldest magic pack you've ever opened? You ever 383 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.319 opened any We've done ice Age, We've done. 384 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:43.960 The Dark Revised you Revised. Are you that old? 385 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.039 Yes, you were already a grown man by the time 386 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:48.759 he opened up Revised. 387 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.920 Because I remember seeing them on the I remember talking 388 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.839 to the guy at the store and I was looking 389 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:57.039 through a binder and I said, why. 390 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.119 Are these cards? Why do they have white borders on them? 391 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.920 Old from the old course set or whatever, and like 392 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:04.880 why would people buy these? And they're like, well, they're 393 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.440 the like the reprints of the very first cards, and. 394 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:09.319 Some of them are pretty good. 395 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:11.559 People usually like the lands and stuff and the like, Well, 396 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:12.839 do you like have those around? 397 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:14.039 Are they really hard to get to? 398 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:16.400 They're not easy, but I've got some, And like you 399 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.400 just had like a box with some packs in it 400 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.119 or whatever, and they weren't extra money. I didn't get any, 401 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:23.200