WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:16.640 Ready, get ready for September five, twenty twenty five. And 2 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:19.879 that is allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar. 3 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.120 And in case you don't recognize the voice, this is 4 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:27.440 Chuck o'ceelly and the Ocelli effect. And that noise in 5 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:30.199 the background is my co host Bpete. Because it's Friday 6 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:34.719 night and here we are live to take your calls, 7 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:38.079 so you might be able to tell that I'm challenged 8 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:41.960 a bit vocally. Whatever, We're going to go forward with 9 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:45.000 this as best we can, and worse comes to worse, 10 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.759 maybe I'll just play a bunch of audio from the 11 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:50.520 White House and we'll call it a day until ten pm, 12 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:55.960 when the Age of Transitions begins onochelly dot com and 13 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:00.079 via your various podcasts, which I've been trying to at 14 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:05.200 least plenty of this week, doing my best to fulfill 15 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:09.680 the requests. But in the meantime, if it is just 16 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:13.640 after I mean like seven minutes after the hour of 17 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:16.239 eight PM in the Eastern time zone of what used 18 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:19.959 to be America, and you're hearing the sound pathetically of 19 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:23.400 my voice, then we are live and you can join 20 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:28.640 us at three one nine, five two seven five zero 21 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:33.200 one six. Since I sound like crap, you can be 22 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.040 the show. And now we'll check in with my cos 23 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:39.959 VPTE see how he sounds. I probably know much of 24 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.680 what he's going to say already. I found his tweet 25 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:48.400 ironic and interesting for the promo for the show, and uh, hey, 26 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:54.920 can't argue with straight logic. But well, actually this is 27 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.879 America and it's twenty twenty five, so logic doesn't count 28 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:02.159 much anyway. But still here we are. You can argue 29 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:04.560 all day, but it doesn't mean that anybody will win. 30 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:09.199 How about that, BPTE. How is your week gone? If 31 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:11.439 you can't tell how mine has, I mean, I'll try 32 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.039 to tell you, but I may lose my voice entirely 33 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:17.439 during the course of this broadcast. We shall see how 34 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.560 you well. 35 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:24.520 I was sympathized with you, because around here. 36 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:26.080 Thinks you're starting to die off with it be in 37 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:28.840 Falld and my sinus the sound about as rough as 38 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:29.560 your throat. 39 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:33.360 But it's been a good week. We need some rain. 40 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:35.039 We've been a couple of weeks without in your rain. 41 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:38.800 The weather has been gorgeous. It's been beautiful temperat during 42 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:40.919 the day, humidity has not been bad. So I've been 43 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.479 able to get a lot done. Spent the whole week 44 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:49.680 trying to find weed eater parts, which is almost impossible 45 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.960 now that Sears is out of business because I have 46 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.840 a lot of crafts and stuff, so now trying to 47 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.560 find replacement parts and that is getting to be a 48 00:02:58.599 --> 00:02:59.159 little tricky. 49 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.759 But Anette been staying busy. 50 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:04.639 Yeah didn't a few years ago, Yeah didn't. A few 51 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:08.199 years ago, craftsmen state that they would no longer honor 52 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:11.560 the whole lifetime replacement thing, like come and get your 53 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:14.840 replacements now. I remember some years ago it was like 54 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:18.719 everybody was rushing to whatever location they could find to 55 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.479 exchange their stuff because you could always bring a broken 56 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:26.520 craftsman whatever to them and they would replace it. I 57 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:30.439 have a vague memory of it. And people were looking 58 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.960 for the wrenches and everything at flea markets to go 59 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.120 trade them in for brand new tools. Was that like 60 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:37.159 ten years ago? Yeah? 61 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:41.199 They Yeah, when they went through chapter when they went 62 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:42.759 out of business, basically. 63 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.080 That voided the warranty and what Seears did when they 64 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:54.280 went under thanks to their merger with Kmart, they basically said, Okay, 65 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:57.879 we're not covered warranty and they sold off like they 66 00:03:57.919 --> 00:03:58.680 had the kid. 67 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.400 Wore brand of appliances. They sold that off. 68 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:07.479 Craftsmen Tools went to I want to say, Stanley bought 69 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:10.120 the name and then it went to Black and Decker 70 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.840 I believe, or either it went to Black and Decker 71 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:13.680 or now Stanley. 72 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:16.240 So yeah, your warranty a shot. 73 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:18.360 But you know, the funny thing is is growing up, 74 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:20.800 my dad always bought Craftsman tools. 75 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.959 He was a mechanic and he. 76 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.160 Always bought them because no matter what happened, you take 77 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.560 it into the store, set it on the shelf or 78 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:29.480 set it on the counter. 79 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:31.079 He tell you to figure out a new one. 80 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:35.040 I mean, it's great. I bought a rake. In fact, 81 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:37.920 I think I've still got that rake. A leaf breake 82 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.600 years ago had a wooden handle and said Craftsmen. And 83 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:44.319 I made a comment to the guy when I bought 84 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:45.800 the thing. I said, well, you know a shame it's 85 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.680 not a fiberglass handle. He goes, oh, no, we talk 86 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:49.560 to the wooden handles too. You break the handle, bring 87 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.120 it back, we give you a dowing. I mean something 88 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:56.399 that's going to break over time. They know it, but 89 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:59.040 it's been hard now and what they did, their parts 90 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:05.120 warehouse is still operating under Sears Parts Direct, and if 91 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:07.160 they've got it in stock, you can go there. 92 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:09.480 Of course, you could get your manuals. 93 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:12.319 And everything for your Like I've got a Craftsman mower, 94 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.120 a weed eater, a blower. 95 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:16.199 My blower went on. 96 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.319 The fritz, and it would have been nice to take 97 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:20.800 it down there and turn it in, but I can't. 98 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:25.240 So you go to Sears Parts Direct and if they 99 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:28.240 have the part, they'll send it to you and pretty 100 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.600 quick turnaround time for shipping. And I guess they're going 101 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.160 to stay open until they get their inventory down to 102 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:37.000 the point that it's just these specialty items and they're 103 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:38.000 probably selling at auction. 104 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:45.199 Wow. Okay, Well, it's funny you mentioned this because I 105 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:47.560 was telling a story just the other day to somebody 106 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:51.560 that I realized makes no sense in the current reality. 107 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:57.600 Where look. In the late nineties, I had a woman 108 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.319 staying at my house. Not going to say who, but 109 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:02.680 she came to stay at my house for the first time, 110 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:05.439 and she was there and I had to work on 111 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.600 the overnight, so I was like, hey, you know, you 112 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:10.600 can hang out sleep until I come home, and then 113 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.120 I won't sleep and we'll spend time together, you know, 114 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.639 And so I got her in my house and she 115 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:21.120 calls me up and says, hey, you're TV broke, which 116 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.279 was a big problem because even my back then in 117 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:27.600 the nineties, I had web TV, so that was my 118 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.720 internet access was on my TV, My video games were 119 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:35.000 on my TV, my cable was so my TV was 120 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:38.839 the center of anything to keep her entertained, except for, 121 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.759 you know, a couple of radios laying around the apartment. Right. 122 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.120 And so she calls me up at like two in 123 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:49.199 the morning, your TV just stopped working, and I'm like, okay, 124 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:51.920 take a nap, and when I get done with my 125 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.920 overnight shift in the early morning, we'll go get a 126 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:58.800 new TV. She was impressed by that. But the only 127 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:00.399 reason why I was able to do it because I 128 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:04.519 had a Sears credit card and it wasn't you know 129 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:08.480 the throwaway TV purchases of today, go to Walmart another screen. 130 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.360 Back then, TV's were heavy as hell, and we actually 131 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.720 had a hard time getting the decent sized TV, which 132 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:18.720 was only like I don't know, thirty two inches or 133 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:22.000 something into my friend's car because it was too was 134 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.639 the car was small. Now people might have a hard 135 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.120 time imagining that in the age of flat TVs, right, 136 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:31.319 But the TV was heavy. I had to take it 137 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.839 out of the box just to get it into the car, 138 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.000 and I wedged that thing in there and brought it home. 139 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.079 But it was a major purchase that I used a 140 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.839 credit card for and it was a Sears card of 141 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:47.519 all things. And you know, like I say, today, you 142 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.079 could go grab a TV for less than one hundred bucks, 143 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:53.120 brand new, you know, thirty two inches or whatever, and 144 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:56.439 people would laugh at you for your little cheap TV. 145 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.879 But back then, my thirty two inch TV, I mean, 146 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:08.319 was considerably heavy and expensive, and it was from Sears. 147 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.279 And I brought that home, and obviously the girl was 148 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.360 impressed that I could just go grab another TV back then, 149 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:18.519 so you know, and therefore I had the center of 150 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:23.199 my entertainment universe in the apartment all set and that way, 151 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:26.079 you know, we could watch a DVD or VHS still 152 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:29.519 had VHS. Then we could go online, we could watch 153 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.039 the cable, we could play video games, or we could 154 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.720 just put the TV up on a stand and you know, 155 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.879 entertain each other. But that's the way it was. And 156 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:43.919 to me, that's not very long ago. But that whole reality, 157 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:49.159 that whole story makes no sense in today's reality. I mean, 158 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.200 you would just punch up Amazon now, tell them to 159 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.559 ship you another TV, and within a day or two 160 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.320 you might have a TV on your doorstep without having 161 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:01.120 to leave, that weighs next to nothing and is flat. 162 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:03.720 Or you could just run down to the local Walmart, 163 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.799 see what's on sale, get the cheapest new brand from 164 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.240 God knows where, made by God knows who, and you 165 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:14.000 have something that is capable of doing all that on 166 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:16.639 the flat screen all by itself. It could serve the Internet. 167 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.720 It can look into the cable by itself. It can 168 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.879 get streaming, you know, wireless if you want. Right, So, 169 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:27.639 no setup, no nothing, no, you know, the TV now weighs. 170 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:29.720 I mean you'd have to get like five or ten 171 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:32.039 TVs together to get them to weigh anything like what 172 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:35.279 one of the small TVs. Wait back then, weight wise, 173 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.559 price wise, everything. That's one of the few things that's 174 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.320 actually gone down regardless of inflation. I mean, imagine if 175 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.039 we didn't have inflation, those hundred dollars TVs, they might 176 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:49.080 have to pay you to take them away at this rate, 177 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:53.480 so totally disconnected from current reality. Me going to have 178 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:56.039 to get a new TV, and it just so happens. 179 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:58.759 Sears was my best option. Because I had a line 180 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.240 of credit. Now what do you think of that? What 181 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.039 do you think of that whole thing? BPTE. 182 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:08.720 I mean, well, that's like when we were in Texas, 183 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:10.799 that monitor that I had from a laptop that I 184 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:12.879 took down there. I think I paid seventy five bucks 185 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:14.960 forward at Walmart, you know, but it was a TV 186 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:16.799 you did get up to an antenna. 187 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.039 Hooked up the cable whatever. Yep, seventy nine bucks. 188 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:23.720 I remember when you know, when we built our house, 189 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:29.360 LCD flat screens were just coming out and we went 190 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:32.600 to I think it was Best Buy and fought the 191 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.240 smallest one because the way we had to do the 192 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:40.399 stairs in that log house where you went upstairs, that 193 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:46.039 wall on the stairwell we filled in with trimwood from 194 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.279 the barn or the stables that was next to the 195 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:51.279 barn when we took it down, and so I had 196 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.960 bookshelves built in. Well, we wanted to TV, but it 197 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:56.840 had to be small enough on a shelf. Now I 198 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:59.320 had a good wide section for it, but it had 199 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:03.240 to be thin. So we bought I forget which brand 200 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.919 it was. Thing was like twelve hundred dollars for I 201 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:10.879 don't know what twenty seven inches something like that. And 202 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:16.039 after about nine well about nine months, ten months into it, 203 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:20.759 it got a crescent down in one corner where the LEDs. 204 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.440 It looked like a halo, and you could. 205 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.519 Only really see it when the screen went black, like 206 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:29.200 on Law and Order when they changed from scene, you know, 207 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:31.879 the introduction scene, and you've got that black screen there and. 208 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.279 That the duds sound. Well, you could really see it then. 209 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.879 So I took it back to best Buy and they 210 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:42.039 tried to give me a flat screen four hundred dollars 211 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:45.480 slillow dinky portable TV. Said no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 212 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.440 this ain't right. Well I got into a big argument 213 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.200 with the wife over she wanted to take it. I said, 214 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.360 that's not the TV we should be getting. They didn't 215 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.200 make that small one anymore. It went up two inches, 216 00:11:55.279 --> 00:12:00.360 like twenty nine inches or something. So I called the 217 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.679 headquarters for Best By. They said no, no, no, no, no, 218 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:05.919 take that thing back. Yes, that's a flat screen, but 219 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:06.600 it's not the. 220 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:09.440 LCD that you. 221 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.399 Had, and go and tell them this is the model 222 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:15.639 that they need to give you. Well, the only one 223 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:19.639 they had was four model, so there's no thinge telling 224 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:22.000 how many hours were on it since they put it 225 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.399 up there. But I took the thing and they continued 226 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.720 the warranting on it. So by that time the TV 227 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.799 in nine months, the TV was two inches bigger on 228 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.639 the screen, and we paid twelve hundred dollars for the 229 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:35.000 first one. 230 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:36.840 I think that one was like seven. 231 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.399 Hundred dollars, and they've locked some of it off for 232 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.799 giving me a hassle, and because it was a full model. 233 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:43.759 I think I ended up geting for like five hundred. 234 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:47.000 Bucks in nine months, from twelve hundred to five hundred 235 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.720 dollars for a bigger, better TV. 236 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:50.159 I couldn't believe it. 237 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:55.879 Right, But that's the thing is, like it would bounce 238 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.480 up like that. Now today a version of that TV 239 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.240 that was, you know, have one hundred and five hundred 240 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.960 whatever many hundreds of dollars. What would it cost you 241 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:05.679 to get something just like it now? 242 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.559 Comparable to it? You could probably get it for. 243 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:17.039 Two hundred maybe two twenty five. I mean because they 244 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.320 had a good sound system speakers on. I forget the 245 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.720 brand of it for the life I mean, I can't 246 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:24.480 remember it, but it had excellent speakers in it, you know, 247 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.840 surround sound quality speakers, not this cheap craft they put 248 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:32.559 on these small things. But I mean, it's amazing that 249 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:35.080 the prices are off that much in nine months today, 250 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:36.360 Like I said, if you can probably get it for 251 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:37.159 two twenty. 252 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:41.000 Five where originally it was twelve hundred or more. 253 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:44.159 It's just crazy the way things have come down. But 254 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:46.279 you get computers, I've not seen a big drop in 255 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:51.360 computer prices. You know, laptops are still up there, and 256 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:53.320 you would think with the electronics and being able to 257 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:54.440 make it cheaper nowadays. 258 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:57.000 Of course it's depending on which. 259 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:57.440 Brands you buy. 260 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.279 But it's funny how electronics are like that. 261 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.480 You go get a seven dollars toaster at Walmart, you know, 262 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:06.519 fifty years ago it cost you twenty bucks for a 263 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:07.039 good toaster. 264 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:11.080 Wow, I think I think. 265 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:15.080 The first Mister coffee machine I bought was a full 266 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.320 ten cup pot size and it cost me. 267 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:20.360 Seventy five dollars. 268 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.399 You can go and get the two cup Mister coffee 269 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.840 machines for like nine ninety nine at Walmart. 270 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:32.879 Now, well, well I made the price difference is yeah. 271 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.240 I'll bet if you have you, I bet if you 272 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:38.080 bargain hunt, you can still find something comparable to that 273 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.279 other thing. Though, two hundred and twenty dollars sounds like 274 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:44.200 a large, expensive TV to me, now if you really 275 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:47.320 bargain hunt telling you. It seems to me that's one 276 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:50.039 of the few things I'm not as worried about replacing, 277 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:55.120 although I did recently have to swap a broken TV 278 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.080 in for my old monitor because my monitor did this 279 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:02.440 weird thing where it's gone into like dark mode and 280 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.200 it won't come out, like it's stuck with the light 281 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:08.320 turned down. And this is apparently a common problem with 282 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:10.960 the disposable TVs. After a while, they just sort of 283 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:12.360 stop being bright. 284 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:16.480 Have you yeah, you have you tried resetting it? Oh? 285 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:18.120 Yeah, yeah, none of that works. 286 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:24.039 Okay, Yeah, that's another thing I like about newer TVs. 287 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.240 You can get underneath there and get that reset button. 288 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:29.080 If it's been a while since it's been programmed, or 289 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:31.080 you move a lot, it's got a lot of. 290 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:32.759 Crap programmed into it. 291 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:34.639 You clear that thing out a lot of times, it'll, 292 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:36.720 you know, whatever your problem is. 293 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:38.639 I had one that wouldn't boot up. 294 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:40.639 It would boot up and it would give me a 295 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.159 blue screen, but it wouldn't give me anything from my computer, 296 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:44.919 and it would take forever to boot up. 297 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.080 And if you reset it. That worked for about another 298 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:50.080 three or four months, and then it finally died. So 299 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:52.080 now I've got a Visio TV. 300 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:57.279 For my monitor, right well, I mean some of mine 301 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:01.360 were the oh god, Element, the Element TV, you know 302 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:02.799 those things. 303 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:05.720 Yeah, that monitor I had, Yeah, that monitor I had 304 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:06.440 to just went out on. 305 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:08.240 I mean not long ago. That was an I bought 306 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:09.279 it to Walmart. 307 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.559 Yeah, this could be super cheap. Right. Well, my my 308 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:14.919 big you know, my big monitor. I use the one 309 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:18.440 that's you know, like fifty inches that's dead, and then 310 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.360 the one that is exactly like it but smaller, that 311 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:23.960 we used to have in the kitchen. I put that 312 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.799 up on the desk for like about a month. That 313 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:33.360 one died. It's weird. It's like I'm eating monitors. But anyway, look, 314 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:35.120 I'm trying to just get by on what I have. 315 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.600 I got broken headphones on right now, all kinds of 316 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.519 things going on over here. Stuff is starting to break down. 317 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:44.840 And yeah, have. 318 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.559 You I've been meaning to ask you this. I was 319 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.279 going to ask you last week, but I forgot to 320 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:55.240 write it down. Have you heard the latest on Garth 321 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:57.279 Brooks is a serial killer theory? 322 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:02.159 Oh that's new to me. I didn't really Yeah, that's 323 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.359 a new one to me. I did get like some 324 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:11.279 later weird JFK stuff something about you know, I mean, 325 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:16.799 the weirdest thing I heard just yesterday is how do 326 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:22.400 I put this without being a complete ass? Okay, so 327 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:28.680 Air Force one right when JFK's body is departing Dallas, Texas, 328 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:37.279 LBJ was so celebratory that at some point he got 329 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:39.799 a couple of moments with just a couple of his 330 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:45.240 cronies around the casket of JFK and they opened the 331 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:51.160 lid so Johnson could literally t bag JFK's corpse. 332 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:56.480 Now where is this coming from? 333 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:02.319 Oh? You know, just like most things insider information, you know, 334 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:06.640 see price, you know, Like I said, like I was 335 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.359 trying to rationally and another thing that came up just 336 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.200 the other day, because I'm trying to vet some of 337 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:17.440 the people presenting at Lancer, and I'm not winning a 338 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:19.680 lot of my battles, So there are people that are 339 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.160 going to be there that I would not have allowed 340 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.799 to survive the vetting process for presenting real information. But 341 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:33.480 I'm doing my best to influence some and quite honestly, 342 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:35.720 I've even added a few people that I know we're 343 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:37.400 going to be a little bit wacky, but at least 344 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:42.119 they'll be interesting because we're not trying to be you know, 345 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:46.079 one hundred percent information is all that matters, and you know, 346 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:51.799 academic about everything this year. So I'm you know, trying 347 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:56.039 to counterbalance a little bit and add a bit of flair. 348 00:18:56.119 --> 00:18:59.680 If we're going to be, you know, less than stringent 349 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:04.680 about our standards regarding the information, I figure we should 350 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:09.079 also add some elements of entertainment, like not just make 351 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:16.599 it all rambling, babbling nonsense. But anyway, more on that 352 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:19.000 much much later, because I don't want to spoil Are 353 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:19.559 you going to have. 354 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:21.559 The person with are you going to have the person 355 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:22.759 with the t bagging theory? 356 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:23.039 There? 357 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:29.200 No, but but anyway, No, I can't come on. I mean, 358 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:34.079 there's limits. But the thing is, you know, I mean, 359 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:37.440 look there are Seriously, there's been a couple of instances 360 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:46.119 here where I've been like, this person cannot do what 361 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:48.640 they're saying they're going to do. They just I don't 362 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:54.680 have them talk about anything but this, you know. But anyway, 363 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.160 so I had to, with my voice in this shape, 364 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:05.000 try and explain and again how JFK's body was not 365 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:11.440 exchanged for JD Tippet. Okay, you know that theory, right? 366 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:17.440 Oh yeah, yeah, you know. Literally they they say that, 367 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.720 you know, one of the things that's evidence here is 368 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:24.359 that some people nicknamed JD. Tippitt JFK because he looks 369 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:30.599 so much like him. So anyway, I don't I don't 370 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:30.960 think that. 371 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:34.240 I remember I'm looking at those photo rays when people 372 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:36.200 were making that claim, and I'm sitting there thinking, you know, 373 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.880 I can see a slight resemblance. 374 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:41.680 The funny thing was they were also. 375 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.440 Using X rays superimposed on each other to show that 376 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.240 there was so much similarity between the skulls and this, 377 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:50.920 and that I'm sitting there thinking, well, you know, what 378 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.680 are you compared it to because the X rays. 379 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:56.680 I mean, when they anything done to Kennedy, half his 380 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:01.440 head was missing. So you go and buy here, it's 381 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:02.920 just strange. 382 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:08.720 Well, as with most things, it's very subjective and it's 383 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:12.279 very difficult to explain to people, you know, when they 384 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:17.319 are convinced of something, you know, and you've got to 385 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.559 think about it, much like you know, much like religion, 386 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:24.559 even when you try and explain to somebody when they swear, 387 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.400 they cross over, you know, because if you just have 388 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:31.119 your faith, you have your faith. That's something that either 389 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.200 you do or do not have, and you can proclaim 390 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:35.000 it and I can't really challenge it because I don't 391 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:38.200 know what's inside of you. And that's all that's required 392 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:42.799 for you to believe, is your faith. But when they 393 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:46.400 make declarations about, you know, things the church did or 394 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:50.079 didn't do, or how long the church has been around, 395 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:55.680 or you know, what is provable history versus again, what 396 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.000 is an article of faith, They're not necessarily the same thing, 397 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.359 and it doesn't matter. I mean, there are people that 398 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:05.200 you know, basically have a religion that was invented twenty 399 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:10.039 years ago and claim that it's really an ancient religion, 400 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.240 you know, and there's no record of it because the 401 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:20.680 evil overlords, you know, deleted it from history until now. 402 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:23.000 Much like you know, l Ron Hubbard wrote a science 403 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:26.359 fiction novel about a guy who dumped a bunch of 404 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:29.519 humans into volcanoes and blew them up with nuclear weapons. 405 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:32.759 And now those souls are walking around and some of 406 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:37.440 them are us. That is reality to some people because 407 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:38.880 they believe in it, right. 408 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:42.039 Oh, absolutely, you know. 409 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:48.039 Or you have magic underpants and the Christ figure visited America, 410 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.079 and you know, weird things I. 411 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:54.880 Never understood that we moved. 412 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:56.039 You know, it's funny. 413 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:58.000 We moved to Salt Lake City, which is, you know, 414 00:22:58.400 --> 00:22:59.640 Mormon capital of USA. 415 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.000 I was trying and I was trying to move into 416 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:05.039 the neighborhood. Yeah. I was trying not to mention specifically, 417 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:07.799 but sorry, go ahead, Well. 418 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:09.079 I'm doing truid. 419 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:11.279 I won't mention it because that's something I could never 420 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:16.440 figure out the purpose of the Holy underwear. I never 421 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:18.960 got my friend I would go I had a friend 422 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:20.599 that was Catholic. I would go to Mass with him. 423 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.279 We went to the Lutheran Church, and then I would 424 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.440 also go to some of the services that another friend 425 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.759 of mine who was Mormon, and he was explaining this stuff, 426 00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:31.799 and uh, finally we got you know, got a Book 427 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.480 of Mormon and I was able to read it, and. 428 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:35.079 I asked him. 429 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.839 He could not answer the question, what's the purpose of 430 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:40.839 the Holy underwear? I didn't your temple garment or whatever 431 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:41.839 the hell they call it. 432 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:45.440 And he's got nobody could ever make that make sense 433 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:45.680 to me? 434 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.039 What difference does it make when you wearing fruit of 435 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.160 loom or whatever's approved by the church. 436 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.559 Well, and did fruit of loom exist with the cornucopia? 437 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.799 Because Andela Effect too, by the way, you know, sorry, 438 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:04.519 I had to throw it in. 439 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:10.319 Well, you got to get up the speed on this 440 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.240 Garth Brooks Tha. I fell in the other night. 441 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.160 I was up late, couldn't sleep, and I started looking 442 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:16.599 at these YouTube videos and I. 443 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.920 Started falling through a rabbit hole. It's pretty interesting what 444 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:20.839 they've come up with. 445 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:28.720 Okay, fill me in, go ahead, all right. 446 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:37.240 Back in the eighties, you know, Garth Brooks grew up Oklahoma. 447 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:38.400 And rodeo was a big thing. 448 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:42.480 He was friends with Chrys LaDou, who was a music 449 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.400 artist that was also a BRONC writer. 450 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.079 And all or bull writer bull writer. 451 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.160 Anyway, somebody asked him one time if he would ride 452 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:55.200 a bull for charity, and he made the comment, I'd 453 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:58.880 rather kill somebody, meaning, you know, going to prison the 454 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.640 rest of your life at all be better than riding 455 00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:06.519 the band bull. Well years later, Tom Segurrow, the comic, 456 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:10.480 had some bit where he was talking about Garth Brooks 457 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.559 and he says, you know that guy has got a 458 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.839 serial killer smile, and he did this bit on it 459 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:17.799 and I've been trying to find the original video. 460 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:18.720 I haven't found it yet. 461 00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.480 Well, from there, things took off on the Internet, So 462 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:28.400 people started taking Garth, you know, when he first was 463 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:32.519 starting out and he got his his deal record deal 464 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:36.240 and all he did a lot of traveling to state 465 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:40.200 fairs and would perform at the state fairs. So they 466 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.400 started looking at all of his appearances on tour and 467 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.519 so far this one guy with a couple of researchers 468 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:53.720 have pegged on They say one hundred and twenty missing 469 00:25:53.880 --> 00:26:01.640 persons and ninety unsolved thomisides that corus spawn to the 470 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:08.880 very close proximity to wherever Garth Brooks was touring. And 471 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:14.640 they've done this over the years, and supposedly he's got 472 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.200 a bunch of bodies buried under the floors of his 473 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:19.960 house there outside of Nashville, where he bought a bunch 474 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.880 of property, built this humongous house. But it's just strange 475 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.359 how they're trying to connect this thing. 476 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.079 And it's gotten so bad that whenever. 477 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:32.640 Garth posts on social media, people are always leaving the 478 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.440 comments and there, where's the body's guard? 479 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:35.960 Tell us guards, where's the bodies. 480 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:38.359 It's become this huge thing. 481 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.960 But they've been able to correlate two hundred missing persons 482 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.200 are homicides just with the little bit of research that. 483 00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.240 They've done and they're still looking into it see if 484 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:50.559 they can expand the number. 485 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:57.079 Well I barely know what to say there. I mean, 486 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:01.960 it wasn't Garth Brooks actually different personality in public at 487 00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:05.440 one point, like a whole other wasn't he like was 488 00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.200 it Chris Gaines or whatever? He was a different artist 489 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:09.680 And no. 490 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:13.000 He came out well no, he came out with an album. 491 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.119 He was going to they were going to do this movie, 492 00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:20.839 and he came out with an album as an alter ego. 493 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:21.599 His name was. 494 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.519 Chris Gaines and he had his hair kind of coming 495 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:30.400 straight down, you know, I guess partial beard growth and 496 00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:34.400 eyed mask era and stuff like that, and that was 497 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:35.279 his alter ego. 498 00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.480 But he was it was his rock music alter ego. 499 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:43.799 And that feeds into the theory too that Garth is 500 00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:48.119 touring and this alter ego of Chris Gaines is the 501 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:50.559 ones that's committing the murders. 502 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.079 Oh it's really. 503 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.079 You got it's hilarious. 504 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:02.079 Well okay, well that's a new one on me. I 505 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:07.119 wasn't aware of it, but why not, right, because you 506 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.920 know what it is? The fascination with the recent Dexter 507 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:17.559 TV series has given people a resurgence in this you know, intricate, 508 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:23.440 you know, double life, triple life, you know, living different 509 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.920 lives with different people scenarios. That sort of thing has 510 00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.599 always been popular. But I think maybe maybe it's the 511 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.519 Dexter resurrection has sort of stoked this. But how long 512 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.799 has this been going on for? I'm totally unaware of 513 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:39.839 this particular subcultural thing happening. 514 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.680 I don't know, you know it Dexter. 515 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.960 I'm wondering, would Dexter have ever come along if Breaking 516 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.680 Bad hadn't have been there first? And what was the 517 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.480 other program to spin off of that? Let's call Saul better, 518 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.000 call Saul, right, you know that kind of black yeah, 519 00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:10.079 black drama humor. I'm wondering, you know, did they did 520 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.559 someone who'd come up with Dexter go, Hey, now's the 521 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.079 time to put it out there, because you know, somebody 522 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:16.799 had been sitting on that idea for a while. 523 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.839 I got to figure out whether which one friend of 524 00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.799 the neighborhood. Yeah, I got to figure out which one 525 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.519 existed first. I mean, I gotta I gotta go. I'm 526 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:28.279 gonna go check it out. 527 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:29.880 Breaking Bad was out before Dexter. 528 00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.519 I think that's what I want to check because it seems. 529 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:35.559 I don't know. It's confusing to me. I'm not sure 530 00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.319 because I got I only paid attention to these things 531 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:43.920 like after their initial runs, and uh yeah, somebody had 532 00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.359 to convince me to watch Breaking Bad. Because I'm always 533 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.599 against the most popular thing. It's like, oh, it's super popular. 534 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:53.480 That means a great many people like it, and that 535 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:58.079 guarantees that it entertains a lot of morons. So I'm 536 00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:03.640 generally resistant to getting in to what's moronic because it's 537 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.880 like a certainty when things are popular, they're often moronic. 538 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:08.559 What can I say? 539 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.039 Yeah, I never was able. 540 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:14.839 I watched a few episodes of Breaking Bad, kind of 541 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:20.440 kind of like the high points whenever something happened, and then, you. 542 00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:21.480 Know, I watched the end of it. 543 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.440 I was over somewhere and they were watching it because 544 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:27.960 it was the last episode. Let's see, it came out 545 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.079 in January of two thousand and a. 546 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:33.200 Let's look at Dexter. 547 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:36.319 Mm hmm. 548 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:47.680 And Dexter two thousand and six. Really, so Dexter was 549 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:48.440 out first. 550 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.440 That's what I was thinking. You were wrong. I didn't 551 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.440 want to say it because I wasn't certain, but I was. 552 00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:00.359 I see, I never heard of Dexter until until on 553 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:01.200 his own showtime. 554 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:02.720 That's why. Yeah. 555 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.559 They started October October of two thousand and six. Wow, 556 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.279 so a year and a half before Breaking Bed. 557 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.400 Yeah, now Breaking Bed was what was the big zombie 558 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.319 thing that was The Walking Dead? 559 00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:17.440 When did that start? 560 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.160 Well that there's another interesting one. I think probably around 561 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.559 twenty twelve, like right around the time of somewhere in there. 562 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.440 I'm guessing I'm not looking at it, but you could 563 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:34.599 take a look, and. 564 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:40.440 I probably walking did was I come on. 565 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.319 Come on, it's got to be around the time of 566 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:48.400 the Mayan calendar idea being popular. Okay, so a little 567 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.599 head of the Mayan calendar when people were panicking about 568 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:55.599 it coming up twenty ten. Okay, yeah, see that. He'd 569 00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.920 be amazed when certain, you know things, you think, because 570 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.359 they become popular, people are talking about them more, people think, oh, 571 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.640 they suddenly exist. Now it's it's a weird thing. 572 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:09.640 I don't think I've seen showtime in thirty years. 573 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.680 Well yeah, but then again, you know, and that's a 574 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:19.720 factor here where The Walking Dead and The Breaking Bad 575 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.519 they were both on AMC you know, so they were 576 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.000 both on a basic cable channel there for a bit, 577 00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:29.680 so more people had that than had HBO or Showtime. 578 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.720 Showtime actually did one of the best limited series I've 579 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.720 ever seen, and I think it's only had two seasons 580 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:42.559 and they have not even threatened to bring it back. 581 00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:48.640 And it was called Counterpart, and it had that what JK. 582 00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:53.279 Simmons was like the lead actor in it. You ever 583 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:53.960 see that one? 584 00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.680 No, I don't believe. So there's a lot of those 585 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:02.319 like that I've never even heard of. There was another one. 586 00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.039 I can't think of the name, had a guy that 587 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.720 was just deadpaan dry humor. 588 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.640 In our chat room. By the way, Chris had said 589 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.039 ahead of one of us looking things up that Dexter 590 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.799 came before Breaking Bad. But also he said that the 591 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.599 Chris Gaines thing wasn't rock really. See, it gets weird 592 00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:31.200 when people start calling certain things rock, but Chris Gaines 593 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.599 was more of a pop thing. And I do recall 594 00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.039 it kind of flopped. It did not go well. But 595 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.279 it's also not a super original idea. If you remember, 596 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:43.920 there was a phenomena before Internet times called Eddie and 597 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:48.559 the Cruisers, and Eddie and the Cruisers was a big deal, 598 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.160 right the first movie and all they did a sequel. 599 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.319 There was an album out there called Eddie and the Cruisers. 600 00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:57.799 It was the soundtrack of the movie. But the truth 601 00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.359 is a band from New Jersey and fronted by a 602 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.720 guy named John Cafferty. John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown 603 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:08.440 Band were actually the musicians performing the Eddie and the 604 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.519 Cruisers music. Now, they used it in the movie and 605 00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.679 they showed you actors. I forget who they were, but 606 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.239 some of them, pretty famous and well known at different points, 607 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:20.199 were involved in Eddie and the Cruisers. And I'm just 608 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:21.840 you know, off the top of my head not using 609 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.159 specific names. I probably sound like an idiot, but they 610 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.800 made a whole movie in a phenomena with a band 611 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.719 that wasn't real but had real musicians behind it, you know, 612 00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.119 sort of like what they did with The Monkeys, where 613 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.079 they didn't know how to play their instruments at the beginning, 614 00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:39.719 and then they had to learn to play their instruments 615 00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:42.960 when they went on tour, right literally at one point, 616 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.679 with Jimmy Hendrick's opening for them, which is a weird situation. 617 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:47.880 Yeah, I remember. 618 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.320 It's kind of strange now, you know, I grew up. 619 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.239 That was one of the first albums I ever bought 620 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:56.719 back in let's say sixty six. 621 00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.760 I think it was here Come the Monkeys. 622 00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:00.760 Monkeys. 623 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:07.039 But it's strange how Peter Tork in that group was 624 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.159 an actual musician and the people that he hung out 625 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:14.960 with there in California is amazing. I mean, you've got 626 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.480 the Yardbirds, members of that. You've got of course, you know, 627 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.360 cross By, Stills and Nash, they're all hanging out in 628 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.840 non a nice little community out there in the hills. 629 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:31.000 A Linda Ronstadt was a cass Elliott. 630 00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.880 It's funny you call that. They were all just one 631 00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:39.000 big group out there. Yeah, you call that a nice 632 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.199 little community in the hills and whatever. But these little 633 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:46.920 clutches of musicians and subcultures that ends up banging into 634 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.320 the Manson family and all kinds of weirdness and all 635 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:55.480 the military intelligence operators. I mean, like Jim Marrison for example, 636 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.880 was the son of a military intelligence guy. Pretty high up. Actually, 637 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.599 you know, the guys from the doors and all that. 638 00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:03.599 It's pretty interesting. 639 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:04.559 Uh. 640 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.280 And if you take that, I well, if you take 641 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.239 a look at some of the work of certain writers 642 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.559 they got, you know, what is it strange stories from 643 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:13.559 inside the Canyon. 644 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:14.400 Uh. 645 00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.280 There was a guy that was really popular in conspiracy 646 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.360 culture passed away now. Dave McGowan wrote that, uh, and 647 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.320 that's about, you know, some pretty interesting stuff and weird 648 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.880 coincidences and overlaps and stuff like that. Funny thing about 649 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.639 the Monkeys to me is that not only did they 650 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.280 have that time period where they had to learn to 651 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.440 be musicians so they could actually go out and do 652 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.920 their own TV shows, you know, stick live somewhere, but 653 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:46.360 also they had a resurgence where their popularity jumped again 654 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.039 into pop culture in the nineteen eighties at a weird time. 655 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:56.159 And why because Nick at Knight started running old TV 656 00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:59.800 shows and one of them was The Monkeys. We got calls, 657 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.440 so I'm going to go to them and try and 658 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.199 shut up. But I always find it interesting the cycle 659 00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.400 of what is popular and what is allegedly culture and 660 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.199 when they come together and collide and create pop culture 661 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.800 is almost scary. You what's China? 662 00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.519 Do you remember the banana slits? 663 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:20.960 Of course, but again another joke. You know, there's a 664 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:21.599 lot I didn't know. 665 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.719 I didn't know if they were before your time or not, 666 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:25.559 because there's an age difference between us. 667 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.559 Oh yeah, But the thing is everything that you saw 668 00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.119 as a kid, or everything even your parents could have 669 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:35.800 watched on TV earlier, right, all came back. You know, 670 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.320 I was watching Rocky and Bullwinkle at a certain point 671 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.280 that's not even from our era. That's like post World 672 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.719 War two entertaining kids on a nineteen fifty TV, you 673 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.800 know what I mean, Rocky and Bullwinkle, and that's had 674 00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:56.639 different resurgences, right, and yeah, it's kind of hard to 675 00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:01.320 beat the original comic though, well okay, but that was Rocky. 676 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.079 And bull Eagle was excellent because they you know, they 677 00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.199 broke it down into you had the fractured fairy tales 678 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.840 and you had the what was the other shorts that 679 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:10.719 they would have in there? 680 00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:14.119 Fractioned fairy Tales used to just healed me. 681 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:18.119 I have it hilarious Sherman and mister Peabody and uh 682 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:23.119 yeah remember the time Let's go travel through Time, mister Peabody, 683 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:26.159 you know right, and the little kid Sherman. Yeah, that 684 00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:29.519 was another thing. Anyway, what Secret Squirrel I think was 685 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:34.320 part of that anyhow, whole little subgenre. And you know, again, 686 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:39.360 how many generations, you know, until this one now kind 687 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:43.800 of had all sorts of bugs Bunny and the Looney Tunes. 688 00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.400 And here we go again with Mandela stuff. Anyway, let 689 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:48.000 me shut up and get to a caller, because I'm 690 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.800 not sure long how long he's been on hold. And 691 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.840 believe me, I'm tired of talking. And no, I don't 692 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.800 think my voice is very sexy. Private messager that said 693 00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:59.599 I got to you know, sound like I'm putting on 694 00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.000 my second see boys, or I'm trying to do my 695 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:07.519 nature boy impression. I'm not. I'm forcing my uh my 696 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:11.639 vocals very carefully so that I can speak, but my 697 00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.280 throat hurts like hell and it might give out at 698 00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.199 some point here. Anyway, let's get to the caller. Uh 699 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.719 and I think if I can, if I'm reading this correctly, 700 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.559 it's Danny in California. Uh and and this time I 701 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.119 didn't mix him up with Chris. So there we go. Danny, 702 00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.880 h you should be live. Let's see. 703 00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:39.679 Thank you for having me. I'm getting the feedback. 704 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.559 I'm sorry you're getting some kind of feedback, but uh go. 705 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:56.440 Ahead, Okay, well let me see. Okay, that's better. Speaker 706 00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:01.079 just coming back. Yeah, I'm on speaker. Let me get 707 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:04.159 off the speaker. Let's see if this works. 708 00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:05.559 Let me see it. 709 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.679 I'm sorry about. 710 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:11.159 This, no, no problem, believe me, we've had worse issues. 711 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:15.119 With pok okay, okay, okay, wow, yeah, okay, I got 712 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:18.880 off speaking. I think this is better. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, 713 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.880 voice is not feeling all that well. It was interesting 714 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.480 you were talking about a lot of these TV shows. 715 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:27.920 BP and I are the same age of the rocking 716 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.960 and bowling cool and all those cartoons bring back upond memories. 717 00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.400 And I never watched Dexter, but it did come late 718 00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:39.400 to the game to Breaking Band, and I powered myself 719 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.320 to watch that whole series that was really dark. I 720 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.800 thought Better Call Saul was a much better program than 721 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.239 Breaking Bad in my opinion. 722 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:50.280 Well, what's funny is if you think, if you think 723 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:55.039 Breaking Bad is dark, Danny, the premise of Dexter, which 724 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.679 by the way, they've had various incarnations of that show 725 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:02.519 now is you know, no, no big spoiler here. Dexter 726 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:08.320 is a serial killer who successfully oh she's murders mostly 727 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:14.280 other killers, uh, living by a code where he just 728 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:18.679 is like an implement of justice to satisfy his dark 729 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:24.679 urge to murder. So which which is darker that or 730 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.480 the guy making meth right? I mean, just premise wise, 731 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.760 you know, yeah. 732 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:33.920 Well, well, you know, like I said, I Powered to 733 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:38.559 Death just left me always with sad feelings, and I 734 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.400 was like, when is this strow going to end? And 735 00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:45.400 I did think the ending was appropriate, as is Walter 736 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.719 Wright's laying there on the ground and they start playing 737 00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.639 I got what I deserved. If that made sense. 738 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:57.000 Oh yeah yeah. And this this latest Dexter Resurrection, if 739 00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.480 you have access to it through one of your streamers 740 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:04.480 or whatever, I do recommend it because it's pretty wild, 741 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:10.159 and it's in the backdrop you know it's staged or 742 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.519 takes place I should say, in New York, which you'd 743 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.719 almost think there's no reason for that if you saw 744 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.440 the previous seasons. And also Dexter is supposed to have 745 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.400 been killed off as a character at the end of 746 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.920 two different seasons, because there's been Dexter and then there 747 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:33.960 was Dexter New Blood, and then there was Dexter Original Sin. 748 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.519 And now we have again another series, Dexter Resurrection, and 749 00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:43.599 it's been by popular demand. People keep asking for it 750 00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.199 to come back, and there's a serious, strong fan base. 751 00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.519 But to me, I find it fascinating because I, you know, 752 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.000 enjoyed studying serial killers at one point thought myself to 753 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:58.639 maybe someday be a profile or even which you know, 754 00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:00.679 when I was a kid, you know, one of those 755 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.400 child Yeah, other kids wanted to be fireman, unlike I'd 756 00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:04.800 like to be an FBI profiler. 757 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:05.679 Uh. 758 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:07.840 Yeah. I had thoughts question. 759 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.039 Question, have they had a different actor playing the part 760 00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.360 of Dexter. Has it been Dexter through all of the 761 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.960 series or is it like a new character when they 762 00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:20.239 come out with another series. 763 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.559 No, most of the time, it's Michael Seahall, the same 764 00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.719 actor most of the time, except when they go back 765 00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:28.440 in time and he's a kid or whatever. You know. 766 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.119 Oh, okay, so he's been playing it all the way through. 767 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.239 Yeah, Dexter is the same guy all the way through, 768 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.360 even though at one point he impersonates another guy, you know, 769 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.239 takes on a different identity. But it's still Dexter Morgan 770 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.679 that we started with from you know, episode one, season 771 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:48.599 one of Just Dexter. 772 00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.239 Yeah, I got you. 773 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:56.000 Yeah. So, which is really fascinating too, because those times 774 00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.440 they would have rebooted it or you know, or reclaimed it, 775 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.559 or come up with a new actor or you know, 776 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.599 now it's Dexter's brother whatever. They would have done that 777 00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:08.039 normally in a TV show, but somehow Michael C. Hall 778 00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.039 has maintained this role now since what did you say 779 00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:14.760 came out in twenty ten Dexter or something like that, 780 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.559 two thousand and six, two thousand and six. Sorry, it 781 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:21.320 was really so for somebody to do this for twenty 782 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:26.159 years now has some pretty impressive you know, spreading out 783 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:29.239 a role for TV series one, two, three, four of 784 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:34.000 them separately. Let me see Regular Dexter, Resurrection, new Blood, 785 00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:40.000 Original Sin, and so there's been what four different series 786 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.519 that you know are all connected to the Dexter universe 787 00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.360 of serial killings. 788 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:51.480 Oh, I understand is coming back or has just started 789 00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.079 this season? I think so maybe this will be the 790 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.639 fifth season. Well, no, this is a fifth series. No, no, no, 791 00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:03.599 this is a season two. The resurrection is now scheduled. 792 00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:08.960 Now they just finished season one, you know, airing it 793 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.559 or releasing it. I didn't see the last episode or 794 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.840 the last couple episodes, but I am following the storyline 795 00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.519 through reviews and things, which which is fascinating. 796 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:26.199 But I'm kind of sad that when I lost certain 797 00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.599 well accesses, I had access to the showtime stuff and 798 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.159 now I don't. I was kind of sad because I 799 00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.880 missed the last couple episodes of this season, which just 800 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:44.159 concluded pretty wild, you know. But anyway, sorry, Danny, you 801 00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:45.079 were saying something else. 802 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:49.920 Yeah, no, no, I never I never watched an episode 803 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:55.760 of it. I know i'd have to maybe maybe eventually, 804 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:57.960 when I have the time, maybe I'll check it out. 805 00:45:58.119 --> 00:45:58.679 The series. 806 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.000 I just I just know I watched Breaking Bad and 807 00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:05.519 that just left. That was a dark, dark show. I 808 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:07.679 thought Better Call Salt was a little better. It was 809 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.760 just a tad bit lighter, and it kind of puts 810 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:12.840 some of the pieces together to kind of build up 811 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.639 to what Breaking Bad was all about. 812 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:17.400 But you're talking about you want to be an. 813 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.280 FBI profilers or a seerical ful profiler kind of reminds 814 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.880 me of the Fox Molder character, because he was that's 815 00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:28.760 what his role was originally with fis A, not just 816 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:32.480 the X Files, but as a profiler to serial killers. 817 00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.159 I mean, full disclosure, all the way up to two 818 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:40.519 thousand and two, I mean I had even applied for 819 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.000 a job with the NSA to be a signals analyst. 820 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.039 I had ideas about, you know, making my living as 821 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.760 an analyst one way or another, you know, And so 822 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:56.239 now I'm just a media analyst, you know, independent and 823 00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:00.239 not really you know, doing it as what anybody would 824 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.519 probably call a career, but it has been my devoted 825 00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:09.000 activity now for years, regardless of podcast universe, et cetera. 826 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.599 Uh So, I've always been an analyst. I like to 827 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.800 analyze things and figure out what's going on, uh, entirely 828 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:20.480 in a circumstance among people, among you know, things which 829 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:27.440 are not readily self evident to everybody else. I enjoy that, so, 830 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.800 you know, weird little insight into me. I mean, and 831 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:37.360 I always found Breaking Bad, Breaking Bad and Better Call Sault, 832 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.840 which I haven't watched all of Better Call Saul, but uh, 833 00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:44.840 I find those things to be extremely funny. They're comedic, 834 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.679 they're they're they're comedies. To me, they're hilarious. Uh as 835 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:50.360 far as I'm. 836 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.199 Concerned, there was it was a it was a mix. 837 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.360 It was a mix of some. 838 00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:56.679 Humor and darkness. 839 00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.559 I think Better Call Saul actually had some better humor 840 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:03.760 just just for my liking. I just sometimes I was like, 841 00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.719 with Breaking Bad, I'm like, what's the point. This is 842 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.559 just so dark? And I wanted it to end. 843 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.360 We're baking Breaking were. 844 00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.679 Better Called Saul. It was more intrigued by kind of 845 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.800 what it was concluding to the end, if that makes sense, 846 00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:21.639 Like we're breaking bad I just wanted to end, so I. 847 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.159 Was done with it. 848 00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:26.760 Yeah, better called Saul. I just enjoined it better well. 849 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:30.199 Saul Goodman as a character is a you know, is 850 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:35.519 a joke within a joke, and a morally vacant lawyer 851 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:42.440 who makes basically no bones about being you know, uh scrupulous, 852 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:47.800 unscrupulous at all times and just about getting a job done, 853 00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:53.639 you know, working within the system, but really being you know, 854 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:56.119 there's a difference between being a criminal lawyer and a 855 00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.920 criminal lawyer U And even the fact that his name 856 00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:05.599 is Saul good Man, you know, is just hilarious. I 857 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.639 mean there's just jokes built on top of jokes, which 858 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.920 I love that where there's multiple layers of jokes where 859 00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.239 no matter how sophisticated you are, no matter how you 860 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:18.960 dig up and you know, break it down, you can 861 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:21.760 continuously find different layers of joke or you can just 862 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.159 take the surface level of it and run with it. 863 00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:28.480 I like stuff like that. That's why I enjoy Star Trek, 864 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.880 you know, same reason. And you know it's funny because 865 00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:36.199 the Star Trek thing, even when you're saying it's dark 866 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.280 and it gets, you know, kind of sadistic, and its presentation. 867 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:44.159 There's a humor to that which which I've always found 868 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:49.800 to be the prevailing, you know, characteristic. It's it and 869 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.039 the Star Trek. Thing's funny because in a recent episode 870 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:55.920 there was this whole discussion about sometimes, you know, things 871 00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:01.239 go so badly that you just have to laugh. You know. 872 00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.119 It reminds me of that line from the Kiss song. 873 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:05.920 You know, I got to laugh because I know I'm 874 00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:11.559 going to die. You know, like tragedy and disaster can 875 00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:18.559 become humorous when it's excessive and you know, relentless and repetitive, 876 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.760 which is I guess where I find the dark humor. 877 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.440 Some people would call it in stuff like that, and 878 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.679 it's the humor that is the strongest and most obvious 879 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:30.159 thing there. 880 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:30.360 You know. 881 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.440 Other people would say, oh, it's very violent, you know, 882 00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:36.320 it's very very violent, and the violence is like, you know, 883 00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:40.559 it's TV violence, it's not most of it not very realistic, right, 884 00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.280 So it's like a cartoon. It's like, you know, when 885 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:45.360 Tom and Jerry are beating each other over the head 886 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:48.719 with anvils, you know, which would crush a cat and 887 00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.280 kill it. You know, this guy gets a lump on 888 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.679 his head and Birdie's fly around his face. I mean, 889 00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.000 that to me is what I'm looking at. Except it's 890 00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:01.000 not you know, drawn cartoons. It's people train cartoons on 891 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.960 TV when I see violence like that, So it's disconnected 892 00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.559 to me. And some people would say I'm overly desensitized 893 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:11.880 or whatever, but again I've always found it like it's 894 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:13.800 in the way you take it. You know, you could 895 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.679 see that as oh my god, that's stark, raving, insane, terrible, horrible, 896 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.519 dark violence. But somebody who's lived some violence might know 897 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:26.880 that's a joke. That's not the way things work. That's ridiculous. 898 00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:30.559 That's as stupid as dropping a thousand pounds andvil on 899 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:35.599 a cat. You know, the cat doesn't survive to get 900 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.239 pissed off at the mouse. The cat is dead if 901 00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:43.480 it's hit with an anvil like that. You know, Tom 902 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.239 and Jerry, like I said, it's like human beings doing 903 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:48.360 Tom and Jerry as far as I'm concerned when it 904 00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.440 comes to stuff like that, and better call Saul is 905 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.800 more on the nose with the humor, I think from 906 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:56.559 what I've seen of it. But it's loaded, and to me, 907 00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.239 you know, it's a little more clever too, because of 908 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.679 the character. The character's more nuanced than the guy who 909 00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.880 you know, I'm the suburban science teacher and I know 910 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.519 the best way to make meth and now I'm Heisenberg, 911 00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:16.239 you know, Like, to me's hilarious the fact that this 912 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.000 guy's now, you know, suburban tough guy from a science 913 00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:22.679 teacher because he couldn't pay for his cancer treatments, you know. 914 00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.320 And he's got the clueless wife who is you know, 915 00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:29.000 sometimes along for the ride and other times, you know, 916 00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:35.360 playing the morally outraged, aggrieved woman. And this guy can't 917 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:38.199 win no matter how brilliant he is. And you know, 918 00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:40.280 he's got the brother in law that's an FBI agent. 919 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:41.920 I mean, how do you not see the comedy and 920 00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:47.119 all that. You know, it's like the Keystone Cops. You know, 921 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.199 like if you actually saw that in real life, you'd 922 00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.599 be like, what the hell's going on? But you could 923 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.800 laugh at a bunch of cops trying to chase one 924 00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:58.000 hapless criminal who can't even stay on his feet himself, 925 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:02.000 and twenty of them can't catch him. You know, it's hilarious. 926 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:06.679 I don't know, maybybe it's just me stuff, you know, but. 927 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.920 No, no, no, it's it's yeah. 928 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:12.679 You know, it's kind of like, you know, we enjoyed 929 00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:17.679 the society enjoyed the three stoogeos, and you. 930 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:19.199 Know they were beating, beating the hell. 931 00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.000 Out of each other, you know, most smacked everybody around 932 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:23.480 m hm. 933 00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:29.880 Exactly. And it's like people getting particularly outraged over South 934 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:34.039 Park is picking on you know, Trump now, but they 935 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:39.639 didn't for like ten years hardly, you know, in comparison 936 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:42.880 to other people they picked on, and they take a 937 00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:49.519 swing at everybody, and I do mean everybody, which you know, 938 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.840 to me, it's like even when they took personal swings 939 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.519 and people like me that were involved in certain things, 940 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.519 I found it funny because there was just all of 941 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:03.199 this you know, meta theater of the absurd they used 942 00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:07.119 to call it in you know, when I took acting classes, 943 00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.159 theeedar of the absurd. You know, right now their most 944 00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:18.039 racist and misogynistic, homophobic, whatever, all the things wrapped into one. 945 00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:23.360 Like Archie bunker On Crack character right now is mad 946 00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:28.719 as hell at almost everybody because he can't out racist 947 00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:33.039 the racists around him, and he's mad like they took 948 00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:37.280 his lane away from him and he's angry that wait 949 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.199 a minute. You know, other people are hating on the Jews. 950 00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:45.119 That's my job, you know, like it continues to stack 951 00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:48.480 itself upon itself, and I find that to be ludicrous. 952 00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.119 I mean it's absurd, and that's what it is. There's 953 00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:57.480 comedy and absurdity, whether it's violence, or it's you know, negativity, 954 00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:02.000 or it's overblown positivity, you know, or people being naive 955 00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:06.559 on top of naive. It's it's hilarious when you dog 956 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:09.880 pile and then you throw extra dog piles on the 957 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.599 dog pile. To me, I find it funny. You know, 958 00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.920 I don't. Maybe again it's just me, but go ahead. 959 00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:20.159 No, no, I get it. 960 00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.159 I mean I enjoy comedy. 961 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:22.880 I had to you. 962 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.320 My son was always a clown. He was a class clown, 963 00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:32.320 and he just he just always found the humor and everything. 964 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.880 In one way or another, and it kind of lightened 965 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:35.239 things up. 966 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:38.079 I think that some of it's healthy and then some 967 00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:39.400 of it can be unhealthy. 968 00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:40.280 Unhealthy. 969 00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:42.599 I mean, you were talking a lot about it. I 970 00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.719 really did enjoy your little bit of change of subject 971 00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:46.719 because you talked. 972 00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.920 About your dunning cougar. 973 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:55.519 Cougar is psychology, but you know, the dunning that really 974 00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:56.199 reminded me. 975 00:55:56.519 --> 00:56:02.440 Yeah, sorry, the Dunning Kruger in Fact nine psychology. Yeah, 976 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:02.840 that one. 977 00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:08.760 Yeah, I enjoyed that, and it kind of reminds you know, 978 00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:11.719 then you did the news staff too. I'm not really 979 00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:16.760 much into Alex Jones. I just never found him. I 980 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:20.559 just don't find him fascinating. And I found his whole stick, 981 00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.800 you know, from Sandy Look and he basically just said, hey, 982 00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:26.639 I'm a performance actor. I mean, so you can't take 983 00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:29.400 him serious about anything, and I've just found he's just 984 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:29.920 an act. 985 00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:35.000 Well, in fairness, he called himself a performance artist, or 986 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:39.039 his lawyers called him a performance artist. When he was, 987 00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:41.920 you know, in the midst of a court battle with 988 00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:45.480 his soon to be ex wife and it was over custody, 989 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.599 and she was talking about, look at the crazy things 990 00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.360 he says on air, and look at how they don't 991 00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.760 fit with you know, the real world. He's delusional and 992 00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.719 he's delusional in public, and that's bad for our kids, 993 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.519 and I should have custody, the woman was saying. And 994 00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:04.480 his lawyer's defense was, well, he's actually just a performance artist, 995 00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:08.760 So what are you getting so upset about? You know. So, 996 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.199 you know, again, just like when Fox News got sued 997 00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:16.079 and their lawyers said, well, we're an entertainment company. You know, 998 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:21.559 it's a legal defense to deflect from what are you doing? 999 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.119 And it is what it is. But I look at 1000 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.119 that equally. And the reason why I brought up the 1001 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.760 Alex Jones thing and did that analyzation and really I 1002 00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:34.159 got cut off somehow before I got to finish, was 1003 00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:38.880 because this guy's been doing the same thing to his 1004 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:41.480 you know, his cohorts, the people that work with him, 1005 00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.280 the people that he rises up in his organization. Eventually 1006 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:49.360 he casts them out and they're pieces of garbage and 1007 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:53.039 he blacklists them and tries to ruin anything they do 1008 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:56.559 in the future. And he's done that ever since. A 1009 00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:00.480 guy named Jack Blood was on his network with him 1010 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.440 and was as popular as he was in the early days, 1011 00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.960 and he brought up David Knight again for no reason. 1012 00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:11.159 David Knight's a good guy generally speaking, and you know, 1013 00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:14.400 he's got his conservative viewpoints and he's mister patriot, and 1014 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:18.840 you know he does his podcast in a suit, you 1015 00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.480 know nowadays, but he was part of the inprot Wars 1016 00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:25.480 teame at one point, wasn't he. And he brought him 1017 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:27.920 up as another backstabber, you know, in the midst of 1018 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.679 one of his rants, which I found funny because that's 1019 00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.400 many years ago. Now David Knight left. But this is 1020 00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:38.639 a repeated pattern where he cuts people loose and you know, 1021 00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:41.360 they were his brother a week ago and now they're 1022 00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:46.400 you know, narcissistic pos and garbage that needs to be 1023 00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:51.320 you know, ignored because they have no no morals, no standards, 1024 00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:53.039 and they were no good. But while they were with him, 1025 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.000 they were great, you know, and that's what. 1026 00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:59.880 I just had somebody else leave him and he's going 1027 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:00.559 that now. 1028 00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:01.880 Yeah, that's. 1029 00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:07.719 One of the shows I did this week. Owen or 1030 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:12.280 Schroyer or whatever I am. Yeah, Owen shroy Yeah, who 1031 00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.679 has now gone out and done what all these guys do, 1032 00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:17.119 which is, hey, let me raise money from my own 1033 00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.960 independent platform and they ride off of their popularity they 1034 00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:24.239 had on Info Wars and kind of sad that a 1035 00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:26.559 guy like Jack Blood couldn't do that in you know, 1036 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:30.440 the early two thousands, right, because these guys in the 1037 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.840 newer media landscape can do that now independently launched themselves boom, 1038 00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:40.880 so now they do. You know, David Knight has his popularity, 1039 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:43.159 it's not as big as it could have been. But 1040 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:45.239 if he had waited a little while in the age 1041 00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:49.920 of social media and Alex Jones being elevated because you know, 1042 00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.519 he's legitimately connected to the President of the United States, 1043 00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:58.239 he could have gotten a much better launch and probably 1044 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:00.360 a lot more money for his home studio. Oh and 1045 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.840 a lot more support to launch his podcast and his 1046 01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:06.119 own thing if David had come out of there now. 1047 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.239 But David left years ago because he just disagreed, and 1048 01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:10.840 he tried to do it in a classy way. And 1049 01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.360 it's funny that he's still being evoked as a backstammer 1050 01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:16.000 when Jones is in the middle of rants. So that's 1051 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.239 what I was trying to show people, is that it's 1052 01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:22.519 not about you know, the information or this guy. I'm 1053 01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:24.960 not even a fan of this Owen Stroyer or Stroyer 1054 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.400 or whatever his name is. He's just another guy with 1055 01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:30.960 a beard who's you know, a bit younger, who has 1056 01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:36.000 his you know, who has his patriot persona that he sells. 1057 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.360 And there's a lot of guys out there that do that, 1058 01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:42.320 just like there's a lot of these weird lefties that 1059 01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:46.639 are out there, like, you know, whining about everything and 1060 01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:49.719 it's like, oh, you have to support my podcast because 1061 01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:54.599 left wingers are so attacked. And meanwhile, you know, I've 1062 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:57.599 been doing this for so long. It's been three years 1063 01:00:57.880 --> 01:00:59.920 and I've been on YouTube all this time, and I 1064 01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:06.360 only have two hundred thousand subscribers. And yeah, yeah, Like 1065 01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.719 this guy was getting about three hundred grand a year 1066 01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:12.039 and AJ even tried saying, you know, he's gotten eighty 1067 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:15.599 thousand dollars worth of raises since twenty nineteen, but he 1068 01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:18.039 was saying that he wasn't getting enough money to keep 1069 01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:21.119 up with the cost of living. Now was it commensurate 1070 01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:24.519 with the massive operation and his contributions. I mean, that's 1071 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:27.639 for him and his employer to negotiate, But I find 1072 01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:29.960 it weird. Like I said, just like that guy was, 1073 01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:31.840 you know, like, oh, I didn't notice one hundred and 1074 01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.840 fifty thousand dollars I got from Russian oligarchs to request 1075 01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:38.039 a podcast because you know, it just it was only 1076 01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:41.880 one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Okay, if that's where 1077 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.159 you're at, cool, But what does that tell you about 1078 01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.159 what he's got? If one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, 1079 01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:48.400 it's like, eh, take it or leave it. Oh, by 1080 01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:51.440 the way I sent it back, no big deal. Well, 1081 01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:55.280 that gives you an idea the size of their operation, 1082 01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:59.119 you know. That's all I was trying to say, is 1083 01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:01.599 look at the size of operation and how they can 1084 01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:04.559 be split off, and how it's always the same whether 1085 01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.880 he was on public Access TV and a dozen radio stations, 1086 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.760 or if he's a worldwide phenomenon with dual broadcasting and 1087 01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.000 you know, live twenty four to seven on the Internet 1088 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:19.320 and everything's an emergency broadcast because he's got insider information 1089 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:22.320 and connection to Donald Trump, it doesn't matter the guy 1090 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:26.639 behaves the same way. That was my point. But probably 1091 01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.800 people missed it all right, anyway, that's why I did that. 1092 01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:30.719 You probably didn't. 1093 01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:30.880 Listen to it. 1094 01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:33.920 I got that part. It just kind of reminded me. 1095 01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:36.239 Even in you know, that's kind of like a big, 1096 01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:40.840 big circle, but even in small circles, people always It's 1097 01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:43.920 just something societal human nature. We have a pecking order. 1098 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.280 If you get on the top, you got to peck 1099 01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.079 on those that are down below. I've seen that in 1100 01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:50.400 small scale, large. 1101 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:55.480 Scale, but again, like around the turn of the century, right, 1102 01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:57.599 A guy that I ended up working with later at 1103 01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:01.360 American Freedom radio. His whole network is everything he had. 1104 01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:03.960 He was one of the guys that was blacklisted in 1105 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.719 the early days of Alex Jones when he went out 1106 01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.840 of his way to destroy other people looking for employment 1107 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:16.079 once they parted company with him, Danny Romero, and you know, 1108 01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:18.440 I'm just saying I've known some of these guys who 1109 01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:23.440 were outcast from the Info Wars universe over the years, 1110 01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:26.159 and I find it funny that the strategy remains the same, 1111 01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:30.000 the attitude, and the behavior remains the same, regardless of 1112 01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:33.320 whether you know he's literally doing money bombs with everybody 1113 01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:37.679 and begging for five dollars donations, or he's so well 1114 01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.039 funded that I think he can absorb the Sandy Hook 1115 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.760 lawsuits given the amount of money that he have. 1116 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.320 I'm shocked. Yeah, I'm just shocked he's able to have 1117 01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.880 such a platform even after the Sandy Hook. I mean, 1118 01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:56.440 to me, just was morally iveryvncible in his behavior. So 1119 01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.320 that's why I'm no fanom of Jones. 1120 01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:03.320 But I'm just saying, put aside his behavior or your judgments, 1121 01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:05.360 just take a look at the fact that he's been 1122 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.320 given the blessing. You know, I'm not part of the 1123 01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.360 establishment media. Well, You've been established for a quarter century 1124 01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.840 at least as a massive broadcast to talk to yourself. 1125 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:20.880 So what are you You know, you're not struggling like 1126 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:24.480 me to have a voice that doesn't comport with a big, 1127 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:29.199 giant gang. So what are you outside of exactly? You 1128 01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.559 know CNN calls you up to get commentary on the President. 1129 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.559 Now you know they call you at the BBC. You're 1130 01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:42.039 broadcast across the world, supported by the tech industry, supported 1131 01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:46.000 by massive donors, supported by the President who was showing 1132 01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:48.119 up on his show almost on demand. I wanted to 1133 01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:51.039 talk to the President about it. And every day is 1134 01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:54.039 a panic attack emergency broadcast, Like even right now, if 1135 01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:56.880 I go to X, I guarantee you I haven't look. 1136 01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.599 Let's look, he's having some emergency mel down on his 1137 01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:05.719 broadcast all day today. Probably let's see Alex Jones. Okay, literally, 1138 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:07.719 this is what it says live on X. The two 1139 01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:09.599 things that they want to show me live on X. 1140 01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:12.840 At the top of the list, Alex Jones is hosting 1141 01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:17.599 Friday emergency broadcast, Trump announces plan two do something. I 1142 01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:20.239 can't see all of it. And then the second choice 1143 01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:25.039 up here Alex Jones Network, which is apparently a dual broadcast, 1144 01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:29.760 with the first one live instead of Friday Emergency broadcast. 1145 01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:33.639 The first word is live emergency broadcast. Trump announces plan 1146 01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:36.639 two dot dot. Now, let's see if I click on it, 1147 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:39.119 it'll probably give me the rest of the sentence. Or 1148 01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.760 maybe not. Oh, I can't see the rest of the sentence. 1149 01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:46.639 Come on, why not show me? Show me the full right, 1150 01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.000 I'm trying to see the full page. Maybe I got 1151 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.840 a double click on it. Okay, here we go. Friday 1152 01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:54.960 Emergency broadcast. Trump announced his plan to send troops to 1153 01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:59.719 Poland as the specter of total war. As the specter 1154 01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:04.519 of two total war nears, learn why Elon Musk was absent? Well, 1155 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:09.320 evil tech invaded the White House last night. Plus Venezuelan 1156 01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:15.280 fighter Jed buzzes US Navy ship must watch. This is 1157 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:19.199 the Alex Jones show broadcast, which is going on on 1158 01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:20.360 X right now. 1159 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:26.519 Well, you know, Chuck, I see I you know, I 1160 01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:30.719 don't even follow out Jones. And guess what, I'm constantly 1161 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:34.760 non stop. Once he got back on X, He's been boosted. 1162 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:37.119 I always get these things live, live live. I've just 1163 01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:40.119 always ignored it. I just don't have I just don't 1164 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:43.400 value any of his I don't find I just don't 1165 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.920 find him entertainment or informal. I just think he's full 1166 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:48.639 of it, you know, so that you're making the point 1167 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:53.000 that he's he's got this access so, you know, kind 1168 01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:57.320 of reminds me of what Aaron Franz was kind of prophetic, 1169 01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:01.639 you know about the dark technocracy, that there's just we're 1170 01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:05.400 just feeding. There's there's a loop that where some people 1171 01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:09.559 get boosted. They're just feeding this narrative of confusion. 1172 01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:10.360 And people follow it. 1173 01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:14.079 You know, they're I guess they're entertaining for others, but 1174 01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:16.639 their points view, but they're they have them distracted to 1175 01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:17.519 this message. 1176 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:17.960 Right. 1177 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:22.880 It's the business of fear porn, you know, for people 1178 01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.559 that want to remain in a heightened state of anxiety. 1179 01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:30.920 He'll feed that for you. You want some anxiety, you 1180 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:32.920 want to panic attack, I got it for you. We're 1181 01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:37.119 under siege, everybody's under siege. Trump is under attack. He's 1182 01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:40.639 attacking others. Here we go. You know, I don't know 1183 01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.760 anything about this issue of we're we're sending troops to 1184 01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:47.079 Poland Now. I thought we were sending the National Guard 1185 01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:48.119 to Chicago last time. 1186 01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:50.159 Look, the first time I've heard of that. 1187 01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:51.280 Yeah, well but. 1188 01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:54.360 That's the thing. And like, yeah, like I said, I 1189 01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:56.119 tuned in a couple of years ago just to kind 1190 01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:59.199 of like randomly pop on his live stream at one point, 1191 01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:01.599 and it was like, we're being invaded from the southern 1192 01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:06.159 border right now. There's an invasion happening. And you know, 1193 01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:08.760 there's some people say, well, there was an invasion happening, okay, 1194 01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:14.079 but he's the guy who actually created that narrative. First, 1195 01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:17.279 we're being invaded because of all the people crossing over 1196 01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:21.000 the border. Now, people crossing over the border is a 1197 01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:26.079 little different than an armed military you know, actually crossing 1198 01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:29.800 into the United States in my mind, but not to others. 1199 01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.079 So you know, here it is, and people say that 1200 01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:35.600 that's you know, it's like a proxy attack from other 1201 01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:37.880 countries the way they're sending there, and they're what are 1202 01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:41.359 they doing. They're sending their criminals, They're sending their mental patients, right, 1203 01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.800 That's what That's what the narrative is. Anyway, it's just 1204 01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:47.800 amazing to me that he was doing that, you know, 1205 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.039 way before Trump and via Roger Stone. I feel like 1206 01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:58.039 Trump learned how to pick up the fear porn paradigm. 1207 01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.439 But look, I got to call up. I got Chris 1208 01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:03.399 from Florida on the line, who's been waiting a while. 1209 01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:05.960 I'd like to get to him real quick, Danny, I'm sorry, 1210 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:09.760 but hang on, I'll come back around to you. 1211 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:10.560 Okay. 1212 01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:16.359 Well, so Chris Florida and I didn't mix up your 1213 01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:17.920 names this time. How you doing, man? 1214 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:21.600 I was gonna I'm doing good. I was gonna say, 1215 01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:22.840 you got my name right? 1216 01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:26.800 Thank god. Yeah, at least I can get that right 1217 01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:31.239 while I'm struggling to speak. Right, that's it. 1218 01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.640 Hey, if I wearing pennies, it'd be wet right now. 1219 01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:34.399 Listen to you. 1220 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.399 See, you're the one who said privately to me, it's 1221 01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:41.880 like my sexy voice, which is funny because there was 1222 01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:42.760 a family guy up. 1223 01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:45.359 I said, you giving up nature boy vibes? You know 1224 01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:48.840 that thing going on? 1225 01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:52.960 That's right, man, we can all remember back to the 1226 01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:55.760 days when he and nature Boy used to have brocasms 1227 01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:56.399 over show it. 1228 01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:04.279 Brogasms. Wow, brogasm. There's a new term for me. I 1229 01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:06.439 never heard that, brogasm. 1230 01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:10.840 It sounds good. It's got a ring. 1231 01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:12.000 Good at least kidding that. 1232 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:24.199 Yeah, where do I want to go? 1233 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:29.000 Sorry, didn't mean to test right, what the level of 1234 01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:33.720 parental guidance for what the we want to maintain PG 1235 01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:36.800 or they can venture adventure beyond. 1236 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:39.920 Hey, you go ahead with whatever you want. We don't 1237 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:42.960 do a m F anymore. But you know, let's try 1238 01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:44.039 and be reasonable, right. 1239 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.399 All right, I guess all right, Well. 1240 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:51.760 That's fun. 1241 01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:54.199 You know, you guys talked about so many subjects such. 1242 01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:55.039 A short period of time. 1243 01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:59.279 You know, someone like making calling, you know when I 1244 01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:03.159 hear something that you know, kind of he rings. 1245 01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:04.720 My bell a little bit, and then then. 1246 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:08.479 You'd deviate, you know, ventured and talked about all these. 1247 01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:11.560 Other different subjects. But it sounds the one. 1248 01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:15.439 I mean, if you think that he actually was facing 1249 01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.720 what what was the total fine? It was over a billion, 1250 01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:21.039 I mean it was I think I think he faced 1251 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:24.600 the higher find them what Pfizer did back in the day, 1252 01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.199 and I thought, and then I thought, yeah, he was 1253 01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:31.800 much higher than Again, it's book the world record for 1254 01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:32.680 the largest fine. 1255 01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:33.039 Crypt. 1256 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:38.119 Now if you think that he actually was legitimately facing 1257 01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:42.399 that fine and he's still in business, yeah he needed 1258 01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:43.439 to rethink some things. 1259 01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:48.439 Well, one point five billion is Alex Jones. But in fairness, 1260 01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:52.000 the opioid thing was many more billions that they were 1261 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.439 being charge different companies depending on which one, you know, 1262 01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:01.439 I should look at the Sackler combined penalties for context, 1263 01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:04.399 I think. 1264 01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:14.079 Yeah, you maybe, but regardless, I mean, if if he 1265 01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.199 was actually facing that fine, and if that was a 1266 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:18.760 legitimate thing has asked for them speaking on the radio, 1267 01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:20.199 they would have taken away, you. 1268 01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:22.960 Know, any form of communication they got could have had. 1269 01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:29.359 And it's as you know, as wars umbrella. 1270 01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:34.039 Yeah, yeah, as it sits right now. They're trying. 1271 01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:40.199 The trustees are supposed to be going through with liquidating 1272 01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:44.840 his assets to help offset the the UH. 1273 01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:47.880 Lawsuit total. 1274 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:54.239 So that's his network, his studios, his name, the info 1275 01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:59.720 War site, everything supposedly, and I forget how much they 1276 01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:02.199 say it would pay off. 1277 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:04.640 Of the billion. It wasn't a lot. 1278 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.239 Yeah, I mean it was a lot, but it wasn't 1279 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:11.319 compared to the totals some of the settlement or the judgment. 1280 01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:17.720 Yeah, just for context, Alex Jones combined penalties are supposed 1281 01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:21.199 to be about one and a half billion altogether, and 1282 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:27.199 just Purdue Pharma in the opioid crisis, just Purdue, the Sacklers. 1283 01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:32.079 The estimate is about seven point four billion that they're 1284 01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:34.399 supposed to pay. 1285 01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:36.520 So you know with a B billion. 1286 01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:39.199 B all these numbers are billions one and a half billion, 1287 01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:47.399 seven point four billion bats B as in boy, Yes. 1288 01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:52.279 I've read something not long ago. 1289 01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:57.520 Somebody is going back into court to try to hold 1290 01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:05.159 the sacklers also financially responsible, not just Purdue Pharma. 1291 01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:13.359 Yeah, of course. Well, I've got a few other callers 1292 01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:15.119 that have now popped up, so I'd like to get 1293 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:20.319 to them real quick if we can, and try and 1294 01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.279 get around everybody. I put Chris on hold because he 1295 01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:26.920 was feeding back initially, but we have these other callers, 1296 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:31.840 so before we stray down that rabbit trail, let's grab 1297 01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:41.439 everybody else and see what's up. Six one seven area code. Yes, 1298 01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:43.720 Chris Craves, how are you doing? Hey, Chris? 1299 01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:50.239 Do you guys think that Bill Cooper's family would. 1300 01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:56.039 Ever have any kind of legal case against Alex Jones? 1301 01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:01.399 And what I mean by that is a lot of people. 1302 01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:02.880 Including Tucker Carlson. 1303 01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:08.520 Carlson claimed that, you know, ale Alex was the one 1304 01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:12.560 that predicted nine to eleven, and I have on tape 1305 01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:16.119 that Bill Cooper predicted nine to eleven, like in June 1306 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:18.039 of two thousand and one. 1307 01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.479 Do you think that I don't know if it's a 1308 01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:24.199 legal basis. 1309 01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:29.199 Or I really don't know, Like I don't know. 1310 01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:33.000 I'm what do you guys think. 1311 01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:38.560 Well to go after like say, sue Alex Jones, I 1312 01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:41.880 mean you got to present some sort of bill of damages? Right, 1313 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:47.800 So what is the damage that Jones did to Cooper? Exactly? 1314 01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:51.800 Outside of what calling him a drunk and you know, 1315 01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:56.960 stealing some of his ideas that were broadcast. What would 1316 01:15:56.960 --> 01:16:00.159 be the damage exactly? Would you say that you know, 1317 01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:06.119 he profited off of intellectual property theft or you know, 1318 01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:11.560 is it slandering the guy and his legacy? What is 1319 01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:14.680 the damage? Right? It's always the question with a lawsuit 1320 01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:19.039 like that, what damages can you present? And then you 1321 01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:22.039 gotta quantify them and put a dollar amount on them, 1322 01:16:22.039 --> 01:16:25.720 don't you? So you know that process seems a little hard. 1323 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:28.159 What would be the basis for the Bill Cooper thing? 1324 01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:31.960 No, you're right, You're right. 1325 01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:35.720 I'm just I'll be honest. I'm just a big Bill 1326 01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:43.159 Cooper fam and I think you're right. Just a quick 1327 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:45.680 question really wouldn't be a basis? Yeah, I mean and 1328 01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:46.319 fair enough. 1329 01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:51.680 I mean I talked about doing cartoon versions of you know, 1330 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:57.800 al media people and you know, creating cartoon podcasts years 1331 01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:01.319 before these AI pop It's came out, and now people 1332 01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:04.039 have you know, dogs doing their podcast, you know, voicing 1333 01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:08.960 a dog puppet basically through AI doing their podcast. There's 1334 01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:13.239 cartoons of Alex Jones with a tinfoil hat on, you know, 1335 01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:17.239 saying that he's full of crap, and interviewing people and 1336 01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:19.399 stuff like, basically doing the same thing that I was 1337 01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:24.359 talking about doing, except my initial technology I saw was 1338 01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:27.520 fish in a tank and we could all be fishing 1339 01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:31.159 a tank with headphones and you know, microphones, and everybody's 1340 01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:34.920 fish could kind of resemble the person. And people are 1341 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:38.119 basically doing that idea a hundred different ways right now, 1342 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:42.600 online and making a bank through shorts and all kinds 1343 01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:46.279 of stuff out there. The matter of fact, there's even 1344 01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:49.720 Puppet Regime, which is a bunch of muppet looking puppets 1345 01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:55.039 of like Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, President g and they've 1346 01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:58.439 taken it a step further. There's a podcast running in 1347 01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:02.960 Puppet Regime, My Totalitarian Life, which is co hosted by 1348 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:07.119 Jijing Ping and Vladimir Putin, right, and they talk about, 1349 01:18:07.159 --> 01:18:10.319 you know, the life of a dictator. You know, well, 1350 01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:13.880 of course, Ladimir, you always fix things by throwing people 1351 01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:17.079 out a window because you're old school, you know, stuff 1352 01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:21.119 like that going on, and you know. 1353 01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:22.760 No, I think you're right now. 1354 01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:28.960 I'm just going on, I don't know. 1355 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:31.880 Just knee jerk reaction, which. 1356 01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.119 I got you, but I don't need no no, no, 1357 01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:38.800 no problem. But you know, again there's this concept of okay, 1358 01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.000 so they're entertainers too. That's the other thing that they 1359 01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:44.119 always go to defense. Right, I'm an entertainer. I'm not 1360 01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:47.800 a school teacher, and so therefore I do my thing 1361 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:52.520 for entertainment, and that way I'm not really responsible because entertainers, 1362 01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:54.960 you know, display all kinds of things that are not 1363 01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:58.560 necessarily real world and if somebody takes it seriously, well 1364 01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:02.319 that's their fault. Right. That's the last line of defense, 1365 01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:04.319 and a whole bunch of things when people come at him, 1366 01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:08.239 and are they right or wrong, I'm not even judging, 1367 01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:12.800 I'm just saying that's what happens. But Alex Jones, there's 1368 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:16.439 one hundred things that he's done to people intentionally, directly 1369 01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:22.000 sabotaged people's projects who you know, split away from him 1370 01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:26.159 over time, and nobody's been able to successfully sue him. 1371 01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:31.119 Over that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and it's hilarious, 1372 01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:34.039 you know again, because he's blessed now he's got you know, 1373 01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:36.239 the dual thing. Even if they take away his name 1374 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.439 and he becomes broadcaster X and has to rename himself 1375 01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:46.079 on air, you know, he'll still be Alex Jones, which 1376 01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:49.199 is at the center of the Info Wars universe, which 1377 01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:51.920 used to also have at the center something called prison Planet, 1378 01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:55.479 but that's privately gone now, you know, quietly disappeared too, 1379 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:59.000 isn't it right because that actually belonged to an English 1380 01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:02.159 guy before he joined and forces with Alex Jones. 1381 01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:05.560 And I did not know that. 1382 01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:07.960 Yeah, and it's funny because even the guys from like 1383 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:09.119 we are. 1384 01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:13.199 Changing back on the way back machining and get the articles. 1385 01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:17.760 Yeah, you're right. And the other funny thing is like 1386 01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:20.079 like people who are like still carrying the we are 1387 01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:23.560 changed name and stuff like that are like out there going, Hey, 1388 01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:26.000 I worked with Alex Jones, and yeah, Alex is difficult 1389 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:28.239 to work with. And I don't want to take sides 1390 01:20:28.319 --> 01:20:30.600 because I respect Alex Jones, you know, even though this 1391 01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.039 guy was directly screwed over by him and cheated and 1392 01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:36.680 everything else. Most people won't even challenge them, even if 1393 01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:41.159 they've been abused in their you know, media pursuits by 1394 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.800 the guy. So it is what it is. I'm just saying. 1395 01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:47.520 It's it's fascinating to be in a privileged position. And 1396 01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:50.119 I think somehow or other he'll be able to absorb 1397 01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:52.039 and pay off that, you know, even if they make 1398 01:20:52.119 --> 01:20:54.600 him pay one and a half billion dollars, which on appeal, 1399 01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:57.680 he probably won't even pay the whole thing. And they 1400 01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:00.359 are going through the process of appealing and everything else. 1401 01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:02.960 And there was that weird incident where the Onion took 1402 01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.840 over the info Wars website for like a week and 1403 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:10.800 they put up Onion stories and Onion front page. But 1404 01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:13.880 if you clicked on the product links for you know, 1405 01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:17.680 support us, you were still sending money to Alex Jones, 1406 01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:20.239 even when the Onion allegedly had control of it. So, 1407 01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:24.399 you know, tell me what's what Really, they weren't selling 1408 01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:26.720 Onion T shirts on there. They were still selling doctor 1409 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.479 Jones supplements, his father's shell company, you know, because his 1410 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:35.119 father's a dentist, so technically he's doctor Jones. 1411 01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:37.119 Yeah, exactly. 1412 01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:41.439 His father was a dentist and like his cousins were 1413 01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:41.960 all in the. 1414 01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:43.119 CIA and everything. 1415 01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:47.000 Yeah, I don't know. He's made a lot of claims 1416 01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:50.159 that his family came over on you know, the original 1417 01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:52.159 I don't know, the Pint to the Maria or the 1418 01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:55.000 Santa Maria or whatever. The he was one of the first, 1419 01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:57.479 you know, the settlers on a ship in America. His 1420 01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:00.239 family was. I don't know. I don't even know. I 1421 01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:02.600 have no basis to challenge it. I'm just saying that 1422 01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:06.960 it's pretty wild stories. And his father, who's a retired dentist, 1423 01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:12.720 has a whole health supplement company, you know, yeah, you know, 1424 01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:18.279 just saying that's what is and no judgment there. I 1425 01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:20.479 would set up my family if I had a big, 1426 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:23.000 extensive business and I could do something like, you know, hey, 1427 01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:25.560 let's set up a shell company and let my kids 1428 01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:29.800 become health supplement salespeople, because you know that's worth multiple 1429 01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:32.520 millions a year. Why not. I gave them a job 1430 01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:35.319 a company and everything, boom, there you go, gift kids. 1431 01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:39.680 Why not? And his son works for Info Wars now 1432 01:22:40.119 --> 01:22:46.760 Rex Jones. You know, he's got his head shaved and 1433 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:49.680 he's a bulky looking dude like his dad. Clearly that's 1434 01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.479 his dad, and you know. Just side note, Rex is 1435 01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:57.760 the Latin word for king. But so king John. 1436 01:22:57.479 --> 01:22:59.560 Wonders what his divorced settlement cost. 1437 01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.800 Well, that's not entirely known, but I'll tell you his 1438 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.119 ex wife is still out there kind of bitching to 1439 01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:08.680 some people who will have her as a guest. You know, 1440 01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:12.399 if you'll think, I think she wants to be paid 1441 01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:15.279 to be a guest now, but his ex wife is 1442 01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:18.520 out there available. Yeah, yeah, she's one of those guests 1443 01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:20.640 you got to pay for. There's a bunch of guests 1444 01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:23.159 in the podcast universe that if you pay them, they 1445 01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:28.319 will come, and she's one of them. I think that's 1446 01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:32.159 that's the message I got anyway when I asked the interviewer. 1447 01:23:34.279 --> 01:23:39.560 But anyhow, you know, and who knows, maybe maybe charge well, 1448 01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.840 because I won't entertain that at all. I didn't ask. 1449 01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.560 I know what RFK Junior used to charge. I know 1450 01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:52.119 that because I got that figure right up front, you know. 1451 01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:54.399 And I could have him appear somewhere if I, you know, 1452 01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:57.079 paid for his travel and gave him twenty five grand, 1453 01:23:58.119 --> 01:24:02.720 he'd show up anywhere. And John Barbara had the same experience. 1454 01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:04.279 He was shocked. You know. I wanted you to talk 1455 01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:07.199 about your father's assassination in public freely and he went, yeah, 1456 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:12.760 twenty five grand. You know, what can I do? People 1457 01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:15.640 want to charge for their time. Time is money, but 1458 01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:18.159 I'm not I can't participate in it. One but two, 1459 01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:21.760 I wouldn't. I don't want to pay guests. You know, 1460 01:24:23.279 --> 01:24:25.359 I don't think that's right. Uh, no, Chuck, I. 1461 01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:30.520 Have to raise his questions. So I appreciate you taking 1462 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:30.920 my call. 1463 01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:36.039 No, no problem, Chris. And you know, I really hope 1464 01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:40.079 that things will work out for you better in the future. 1465 01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:43.640 And I'm not sure where I'm going to be honest 1466 01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:45.840 with you, but I'm struggling to hang on here as 1467 01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:49.800 best I can. And who knows. You know. I hope 1468 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:51.520 that by the time you get your feet on the 1469 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.159 ground that I'll still be able to talk to you, 1470 01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:57.239 but I don't know. So you know, stick around. I'll 1471 01:24:57.239 --> 01:24:59.479 try and get you back. I'll try and get you 1472 01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:02.359 back on the line. Uh. If you hang around. And 1473 01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:08.239 I know we got guess who, Jimmy James, And I 1474 01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:09.840 know he's been waiting a bit and I want to 1475 01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:11.640 give him some time. What time is it, by the way, 1476 01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:14.520 let's double check our clock. Oh, we got to about 1477 01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:18.319 a half hour left before Aaron goes live. So, Jimmy, 1478 01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:20.479 what's on your mind this week? 1479 01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:28.199 Well you sound great? 1480 01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:33.479 Yeah, well that's me and Jimmy coughing at the same time. Anyway, 1481 01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:40.319 go Jimmy, h. 1482 01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:43.880 I had a. 1483 01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:47.560 Couple that's on those shows you were mentioning them earlier. 1484 01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:49.039 Uh. 1485 01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:53.920 But first, it's. 1486 01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:03.880 It's interesting Chris very because he said that sint quote 1487 01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:06.880 that you did, and I. 1488 01:26:06.199 --> 01:26:09.960 Send him a link that showed the original Chris who 1489 01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:10.479 said it. 1490 01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:14.760 Mm hmm. Well okay, so. 1491 01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:18.079 It really easy for me to find, which was really 1492 01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:20.399 easy for me to find last. 1493 01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:23.720 Time, Like I googled it and the pop right up 1494 01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:29.520 Goebels and then I showed that. 1495 01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:31.960 But now when I do. 1496 01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:38.319 Google checks just about anything except that show, it's up. 1497 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:39.600 I'm wondering if. 1498 01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:42.079 Chris Graves remembers said, Chris. 1499 01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:42.720 Do you remember that? 1500 01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:46.960 Yeah? You know what I'll do where you you Yeah, 1501 01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:49.039 you know what I'll do is I'll let everybody loose 1502 01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:51.119 on the line at some point. But let me explain 1503 01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:53.960 to somebody who might be just tuning into the show. 1504 01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:59.159 I put up the the William Casey often let me 1505 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:02.039 put I'm gonna you on hold. Jimmy just because you're 1506 01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:05.000 echoing back a little bit. But anyway, I'll put you 1507 01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:08.000 right back on and just you in a minute. The 1508 01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:11.640 William Casey quote that you know, we will have succeeded 1509 01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:15.279 with our propaganda I'm sub I'm paraphrasing here, we'll have 1510 01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:18.760 succeeded with our propaganda program when everything the American public 1511 01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:23.199 believes is fake. That idea, that quote that's been out 1512 01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:25.760 there attributed to you know, the head of the CIA, 1513 01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:29.000 William Casey, well, a lot of people have quoted that. 1514 01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:33.279 It's on many academic websites, et cetera, et cetera. But 1515 01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:36.640 the truth is that that quote is not one hundred 1516 01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:42.880 percent verifiable from the source. And Jimmy pointed that out 1517 01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:44.680 because I used it in my show notes and I 1518 01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:48.920 deleted it because he's right, it's not one hundred percent verifiable. However, 1519 01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:54.479 there are various chains and claims on it that say 1520 01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:58.680 that it is verifiable, and there are people that attributed 1521 01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:02.159 it to Gebels, And quite honestly, I can't find that 1522 01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:07.199 fully attributable to Gebels. I can't find that one hundred 1523 01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:11.920 percent attributable to anybody. There are many quotes out there 1524 01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:16.159 like that where it seems right, sounds right, and goes 1525 01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:19.720 along with what people think, but we don't have an 1526 01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:24.600 absolute certainty that this person wrote it or said it. 1527 01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:26.520 So I just removed it and said, you know what, 1528 01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:31.600 it's you know, questionable. It can be challenged. And if 1529 01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:34.920 it were in an academic paper and I cited my source, 1530 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:39.039 even somebody might say my source is no good. And 1531 01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:43.520 even given the fact that Barbara Honeager, who was in 1532 01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:48.760 the Reagan administration, verified that Casey had said it because 1533 01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:51.600 she was present when he said it, she says, and 1534 01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.720 there was a reporter that reported it but didn't attribute 1535 01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:58.880 it to Casey at the time. And these things are all, 1536 01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:03.239 you know, connected, It's still a chain of hearsay. It's 1537 01:29:03.279 --> 01:29:07.720 not the primary source putting out the quote. And even 1538 01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:11.239 in the case of Gebels, you can't really find it. Now. 1539 01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:13.520 People have made assertions and they've gotten to the top 1540 01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:17.199 of the Google searches at different times, and assertions that 1541 01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:22.640 it's true, assertions that it's false have been equally entertained 1542 01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:25.960 over the course of time. So quite honestly, I can't 1543 01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:31.880 definitively say that, you know, Bill Colby said this, So 1544 01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:35.560 I removed it. That was going on at like four 1545 01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:38.920 o'clock this morning with Jimmy, by the way, and I 1546 01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:42.479 had trouble reading his initial email because I couldn't see it, 1547 01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:44.880 and there was a little bit of an exchange about 1548 01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:46.680 that it was blank when I looked at it. I 1549 01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:48.479 showed him a screenshot of what I was looking at. 1550 01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:52.079 But you know, it's just translation and problems and things 1551 01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:54.000 like and this is what happens in the Internet age, 1552 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.920 by the way, is no matter what I mean, I 1553 01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:58.680 saw a thing, you know how people have always said 1554 01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:04.239 Hitler like dogs. There's people challenging that Hitler was a vegetarian. 1555 01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:08.600 People have challenged that his doctors literally put into his diet, 1556 01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:11.000 you know, animal products, so he couldn't have been a vegetarian. 1557 01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:16.159 All kinds of stuff out there that people think is 1558 01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:19.760 rock solid and has existed and is provable and has 1559 01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:22.239 been proven. A lot of times you dig into it 1560 01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:26.840 and the basis for it is not good or it's 1561 01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:30.920 you know, attributed to the wrong person. Like there's a 1562 01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:34.239 ton of what do you call it? Mark Twain quotes 1563 01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:38.800 out there that nobody can find a source or an 1564 01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:43.680 instance or recording or writing, but they attribute it to him. 1565 01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:47.800 For good and bad reasons people do this. What can 1566 01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:51.439 I say, even that quote that was attributed to a 1567 01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:54.800 president who says, you know, oh, through inflation and deflation 1568 01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:58.319 and this and that, and people point out he's using 1569 01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:00.920 terms that weren't applicable at the time and had not 1570 01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:04.520 been used at the time. You know, they didn't talk 1571 01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:07.600 about inflation in our economy at that time, and supposedly, 1572 01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:10.399 you know, one of the founding fathers said this. There's 1573 01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:14.000 all kinds of stuff like this out there. So you know, 1574 01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:17.199 we live in an age where, guess what, whether Colby 1575 01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:21.119 said it or not, there is a standpoint about what 1576 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:24.880 is fake and what is not in the information sphere 1577 01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:30.159 in general, and you can challenge, whether legitimately or not, 1578 01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:34.479 or not challenge anything. So that's where I'm at with it. 1579 01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:38.960 But I removed the Casey quote because I couldn't definitively 1580 01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:42.840 prove he said it. So I agreed with Jimmy, yeah, 1581 01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:45.479 that should be removed bank gun, And I wasn't going 1582 01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:47.399 to attribute it to somebody else because there was all 1583 01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:50.439 kinds of controversy about whether it was his, Gebels whoever's, 1584 01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:53.159 And just because it's not at the top of your 1585 01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:56.279 Google search, doesn't mean, it's not real either, Jimmy. But 1586 01:31:57.520 --> 01:31:59.640 you know, then again, here we go. So you do 1587 01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:01.439 the best you can, and I've done the best I 1588 01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:03.800 can to give you, know, best information where I can. 1589 01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:07.279 But yeah, the Casey quote, maybe he never said it 1590 01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:10.199 at all? Anyways, did Jimmy. I want to give you 1591 01:32:10.199 --> 01:32:13.439 another say about anything else, and then I'll turn everything loose. 1592 01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:15.159 If you want to talk to Chris or whoever's on 1593 01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:17.319 the line, I think we should take a quick break 1594 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:19.079 and then do that. But first I want to give 1595 01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:20.359 you the last word for this segment. 1596 01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:27.640 Yeah, mostly I was gonna. 1597 01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:31.079 I heard you talk to them earlier about Better Call Saul. 1598 01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:33.560 Yeah. 1599 01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:37.520 I found that interesting because I've never actually seen the 1600 01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:42.000 show or the other show what was the breakinking? 1601 01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:42.840 Yeah? 1602 01:32:43.039 --> 01:32:43.640 Spin off? 1603 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:44.960 Is that right? 1604 01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:51.600 Yeah? Better Call sauls and spin Off and Breaking Bad? Good? Right? 1605 01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:52.279 Okay? 1606 01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:57.119 And I heard you guys talk about how there's kind 1607 01:32:57.159 --> 01:32:58.520 of like a humor. 1608 01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:04.159 To Yeah, mostly I said that, but you said right, well, 1609 01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:06.239 I said that, yeah, but good. 1610 01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:10.439 Well that makes. 1611 01:33:10.199 --> 01:33:13.560 Sense, and like you said that, the lawyer's names mister 1612 01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:15.520 Goodman see that. 1613 01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:19.479 Well, I don't know these shows, but I know Bob. 1614 01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:27.560 Odenkirk and uh he's of course well known comedic writer, 1615 01:33:28.039 --> 01:33:29.239 is how he started. 1616 01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:32.880 And I can't help but to wonder if he's hating 1617 01:33:33.039 --> 01:33:34.640 some influence. 1618 01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:38.439 On the writing, because you know, naming. 1619 01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:41.039 The lawyer good Man, that's a class I guess and 1620 01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:41.640 out trick. 1621 01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:45.840 You always name your characters exactly. 1622 01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:46.119 What they are. 1623 01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:49.119 Well, it's not just it's not. 1624 01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:51.640 Just sample like Cone has. 1625 01:33:51.720 --> 01:33:54.479 Yeah, it's not just, but it's not just good Man, 1626 01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:59.720 right good Man, but literally Saul good Man, like as in, 1627 01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:04.840 it's all good Man, you get it, saw Goodman, saw 1628 01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:08.279 good Man. Yeah, so that's hilarious. That's like a whole 1629 01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:10.520 phrase built into name saying. 1630 01:34:11.119 --> 01:34:15.359 To me, it sounds like it's almost got I almost. 1631 01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:21.399 My understanding was that he was pretty much highed as 1632 01:34:21.439 --> 01:34:24.600 a street actor in the show. 1633 01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:27.760 But I'm guessing he has to have something to do 1634 01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:32.199 with the writing due to the comedic I mean, uh, 1635 01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:38.760 that's his style. It's kind of dry in the background. 1636 01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:40.920 It's you know what I'm saying. 1637 01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:46.119 It's there, but it's normally in your face, and it's 1638 01:34:46.239 --> 01:34:48.119 just a funny. 1639 01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:49.800 Story about Bob olden Kirk. 1640 01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:53.840 Of course, he started out as a Saturday night live writer. 1641 01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:59.840 And he had he was always pushing this sketch that 1642 01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:01.239 he can never get. 1643 01:35:01.039 --> 01:35:05.960 On, and he ended up getting fired or whatever. Then 1644 01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:09.760 he went on to other things, and then one week 1645 01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:14.720 they just couldn't come up with a sketch. 1646 01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:16.479 They needed a sketch. 1647 01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:21.239 So they and they said, oh, let's use that crazy 1648 01:35:21.279 --> 01:35:25.319 old sketch Bob Odenkirk wrote. And of course the sketch 1649 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:30.920 he wrote was banned out by the River Motivational Speaker's 1650 01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:35.720 considered now probably the best sketch on SNL probably ever. 1651 01:35:36.439 --> 01:35:41.840 I mean, if you were to vote at it, legendary 1652 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:44.399 Chris Farley doing that, right. 1653 01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:53.239 Yeah, Oh, there's no doubt that he that was a 1654 01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:55.239 big part of his commitment. 1655 01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:58.000 I mean, he's so absurd, right. 1656 01:35:59.359 --> 01:36:02.039 So anyway, Jimmy, I'm putting you on hold just for now. 1657 01:36:02.199 --> 01:36:04.399 We're gonna take a very quick break and try and 1658 01:36:04.399 --> 01:36:06.439 come back with say, like the last fifteen minutes of 1659 01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:10.359 the show, beat Pete and I'm thinking about letting everybody 1660 01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:14.359 cut loose and talk to each other. What do you think, Well, 1661 01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:16.560 that sounds good to me, all right, so let's do 1662 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:19.319 that when we come back on the Friday night open mic. 1663 01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:21.359 And of course I've talked more than I wanted to. 1664 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:24.079 But hey, we're almost up to ten pm when the 1665 01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:26.920 Age of Transitions and Aaron Franz begins, and then of 1666 01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:30.560 course eleven pm Eastern, Uncle, the podcast will be live 1667 01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:33.159 here on Nochelly dot com Radio. But if you're hearing 1668 01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:35.680 the podcast, you don't care. 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What do you say, Yeah, that's fine, going alright, 1750 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:29.920 let's do it so in no particular order. I'm gonna 1751 01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:32.119 open up all the lines, and I may mute you 1752 01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:36.880 if you start feeding back, so that's all, and i'll 1753 01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:39.680 unmute when you're not feeding back and do the best 1754 01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:45.640 we can here. So there you go. Everybody's live. Chris, Jimmy, Danny, 1755 01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:56.720 uh yeah, and Jimmy James. So, Jimmy, you had a question. 1756 01:42:56.800 --> 01:43:08.560 Prepare sorry, Jimmy question. 1757 01:43:09.159 --> 01:43:10.640 Chris Graves on the line. 1758 01:43:10.720 --> 01:43:12.640 Okay, Danny has a question for Chris. Go ahead. 1759 01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:19.319 Yeah, Hey, hey, Chris, I think you would be really 1760 01:43:19.359 --> 01:43:22.079 good about it if if you ever talk, you know, 1761 01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:23.199 thought about doing. 1762 01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:23.880 This idea for you. 1763 01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:29.319 I've listened to your knowledge of especially of movies. 1764 01:43:29.279 --> 01:43:32.479 And the genre of horror, you know, one of. 1765 01:43:32.359 --> 01:43:35.159 My favorite TV shows of all time, and I've listened 1766 01:43:35.199 --> 01:43:37.880 to podcasts and I think they're absolutely horrific. 1767 01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:39.960 Is X Files you ever. 1768 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:44.119 Considered doing anything on the X File series because the 1769 01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:46.920 the podcasts and they're they're absolutely they're awful. 1770 01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:51.920 I have, Yeah, I have. 1771 01:43:53.920 --> 01:44:00.720 Right now, I'm current, Like I uh, I say, right now, 1772 01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:07.000 I'm pretty much homeless at the moment, but I definitely 1773 01:44:07.159 --> 01:44:10.159 have a lot of opinions on the X Files. 1774 01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:13.000 And throughout the years. 1775 01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:16.600 I found out that probably a lot of people here 1776 01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:22.640 already know this, but the CIA pretty much had the 1777 01:44:22.720 --> 01:44:26.119 run of the mill when it came to the writer's 1778 01:44:26.199 --> 01:44:33.600 room of Chris Carter's X Files team, including you know, 1779 01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:38.319 the lone Gunmen, which had the the long Gunman pilot. 1780 01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:42.880 Pretty much, I don't want to say nearer is nine 1781 01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:46.840 to eleven, but it pretty much has a lot to. 1782 01:44:46.760 --> 01:44:47.199 Do with. 1783 01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:56.199 Flying planes, remote controlled planes into the World Trade Center 1784 01:44:57.000 --> 01:45:02.199 to escalate a war with the Middle East. I mean, 1785 01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:04.479 I think there's a lot there. 1786 01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:14.920 Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just like maybe it's not. 1787 01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:20.640 Quite that, maybe it's more of my imagination or whatever, 1788 01:45:21.319 --> 01:45:27.239 but I can't I honestly think there's something to that. 1789 01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:32.079 And yes, I looked into the X Files. I just 1790 01:45:32.920 --> 01:45:37.159 I really don't have the capability right now in terms 1791 01:45:37.159 --> 01:45:42.159 of technology and like a budget and get into it more. 1792 01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:44.560 And I know where you're coming from. 1793 01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:47.880 Yeah, Danny, there was a guy out there who used 1794 01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:51.279 to do something called the CIA in Hollywood, I think, 1795 01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:54.880 and he was connected to somebody who I was working with. 1796 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:57.520 I think Pierce Redmond used to work with him. I 1797 01:45:57.520 --> 01:46:01.039 don't know. It was Tom Secker. Tom Secker, that's what 1798 01:46:01.079 --> 01:46:08.560 his name was. Yeah, he was out there. Oh, Chris 1799 01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:11.159 from Florida might have hung up. I only muted you, 1800 01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:14.640 Chris because you were echoing badly. Sorry, I was going 1801 01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:19.079 to put you back on, but for me or I 1802 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:20.399 was from Florid. Chris from Florida. 1803 01:46:20.399 --> 01:46:22.039 I'm sorry, I'll mute myself. 1804 01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:24.600 No, not you. It was Chris from Florida was echoing 1805 01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:28.640 really bad, so yeah, so I muted him temporarily. I 1806 01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:30.359 was going to put him back on, but he hung up, 1807 01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:32.239 so I was just letting him know. I didn't mean 1808 01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:34.039 to leave you on hold. I was just going to 1809 01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:37.520 put you back on so he could speak. But while 1810 01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:39.880 other people were speaking, you were echoing, so I just 1811 01:46:40.840 --> 01:46:44.560 muted it in case people didn't know. Anyways. Yeah, but 1812 01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:47.199 Tom Secker, I think, used to do the CIA in 1813 01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:51.000 Hollywood and talk about, you know, the military advisors, the 1814 01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:57.600 intelligence advisors to TV shows and movies. I think maybe 1815 01:46:57.640 --> 01:46:59.560 I'm speaking out of turn here because I don't remember 1816 01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:01.600 listening to much of it, but I think he used 1817 01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:07.000 to work with Pierce Redman. Maybe somebody else remembers better 1818 01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:09.000 than me, but I'm pretty sure that was Tom Secker 1819 01:47:09.039 --> 01:47:14.600 if we look him up, Okay, we'll chuck uh uh. 1820 01:47:16.960 --> 01:47:17.119 Name. 1821 01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:19.600 Mcgallen went into a lot of that too. 1822 01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:23.720 Yeah, of course, I mentioned Yeah. I mentioned David Gallen 1823 01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:26.159 earlier too, when people were talking about the connections of 1824 01:47:26.279 --> 01:47:28.880 musicians in Los Angeles and the sixties and all that. 1825 01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:30.479 I said, well, of course, you know. 1826 01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:34.840 But it went beyond that, It went into like production 1827 01:47:35.199 --> 01:47:36.319 and films. 1828 01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:38.520 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1829 01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:40.319 But I just mentioned him in the context of the 1830 01:47:40.439 --> 01:47:44.680 musician connections and all that because McGowan was the first 1831 01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:48.840 guy I remember doing a ton of work on that. Uh. 1832 01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:52.760 And that was many years ago. Of course, Davis Gone. 1833 01:47:52.760 --> 01:47:55.159 I just mentioned him because it was brought up independently 1834 01:47:55.279 --> 01:47:58.199 about you know, music and the weird connections and you know, 1835 01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:02.279 people all hanging out together in Cali. Uh. And I said, yeah, well, 1836 01:48:02.359 --> 01:48:05.680 you know the Scenes Inside the Canyon book. I have 1837 01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:09.560 the title butchered there, but nonetheless Dave McGowan had done 1838 01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:10.079 that work. 1839 01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:12.479 Scenes inside the Canyon. 1840 01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:15.560 Yeah, no, Uh, they always saw I bring that up. 1841 01:48:15.720 --> 01:48:19.479 Is because even people like Joe Rogan are bringing him 1842 01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:22.840 up and they they get the title. 1843 01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:27.439 Yeah. Well for me, I mean, it's just it's not 1844 01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:29.159 at the top of my head right now. But I mean, 1845 01:48:29.359 --> 01:48:33.960 h McGowan. You know, McGowan wrote some interesting stuff. I 1846 01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:37.479 respect the work of Dave McGowan, I always have. 1847 01:48:38.439 --> 01:48:38.960 Uh. 1848 01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:43.600 And you know, it was unfortunate that I couldn't facilitate 1849 01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:46.079 some work with him. I wanted to and couldn't get 1850 01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:48.319 it done when he was alive, but he was also 1851 01:48:48.439 --> 01:48:53.079 very sick by then. So you chuck, chuck. 1852 01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:57.880 While I have you on the line, can I answer 1853 01:48:58.079 --> 01:49:00.159 Jimmy James this question from the for. 1854 01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:02.399 Oh yeah, absolutely, I wanted you to good. 1855 01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:11.319 Okay, Jimmy James, you were talking about Bill Casey, uh 1856 01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:16.720 with the CIA. I don't know the exact quote, but 1857 01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:23.039 I believe Bill Casey was the former CIA director that 1858 01:49:23.319 --> 01:49:28.199 was found in a canoe with his food still like 1859 01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:32.920 hot on the sofa, and I believe he talked to 1860 01:49:33.039 --> 01:49:38.520 John DeCamp of the Franklin Scandal. John the Camp wrote 1861 01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:43.760 the book on the Franklin Scandal. And uh, I don't 1862 01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:46.800 want to I don't even want to paraphrase it, but 1863 01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:51.439 I believe John de Camp was told by Bill Casey 1864 01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:58.000 that anything that you thought horrible in terms of you know, 1865 01:49:58.159 --> 01:50:06.800 child abuse or whatever, in terms of a blackmail, basically 1866 01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:10.000 anything you couldn't imagine. 1867 01:50:11.039 --> 01:50:14.960 Would be it would be the case in terms of. 1868 01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:22.560 A blackmail. And uh, Bill Casey I believe was found 1869 01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:28.199 in a canoe, uh far away from his dinner that 1870 01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:31.119 was still like in a cabin. 1871 01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:35.000 It was still or whatever. 1872 01:50:35.159 --> 01:50:39.119 He was found on the water they found, but he 1873 01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:42.439 didn't have his life jacket on and they found him 1874 01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:43.720 in another location. 1875 01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:45.920 Yeah. 1876 01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:49.159 But okay, so you know what I'm talking about, Pete, Okay, 1877 01:50:49.199 --> 01:50:51.920 all right, Yeah, but about that quote, That's all I 1878 01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:52.720 wanted to say. 1879 01:50:52.760 --> 01:50:55.680 That quote that's often cited is is what was an 1880 01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:58.880 issue when uh and and I think he said that 1881 01:50:58.960 --> 01:51:01.479 you had used it before too, about you know everything 1882 01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:05.119 that you know, we'll know we succeeded when everything you 1883 01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:08.520 know I'm paraphrasing too. Now, we'll know we succeeded when 1884 01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:12.359 everything the American public believes is fake or whatever. That's 1885 01:51:12.359 --> 01:51:14.720 got a weird lineage. Yeah, goes all the way back 1886 01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:18.520 to May Brussell reporting the quote. A journalist at the 1887 01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:20.960 Washington Post reporting the quote at the time but not 1888 01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:25.159 attributing it to anybody, Barbara Honeger, who was in the 1889 01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:28.720 administration at the time, said he said it. 1890 01:51:28.840 --> 01:51:29.039 Now. 1891 01:51:29.800 --> 01:51:33.960 I don't always trust eyewitness testimony, obviously, because it's one 1892 01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:36.079 of the least reliable pieces of evidence you can get 1893 01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:39.239 your hands on most of the time. But Barbara Honiger 1894 01:51:39.319 --> 01:51:41.720 said it that that was Bill Casey who said it. 1895 01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.279 That's one line you can trace for that quote. But 1896 01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:50.960 at the same time, it's not a absolute, historically verifiable 1897 01:51:51.039 --> 01:51:54.239 fact because we don't have us from the primary source 1898 01:51:54.319 --> 01:51:58.439 him writing it, or recording of him saying it, or 1899 01:51:58.560 --> 01:52:01.359 you know, various witnesses at the time stating that the 1900 01:52:01.399 --> 01:52:06.079 guy said it. We don't have that. So, you know, 1901 01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:09.199 just like I said, many quotes have been attributed to 1902 01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:13.600 historical figures that are impossible. They're using terminology that didn't exist. 1903 01:52:14.239 --> 01:52:17.800 They're they're saying things that there's no record of them saying. Uh, 1904 01:52:18.279 --> 01:52:20.960 you know, positive and negative. They're across the board. So 1905 01:52:21.039 --> 01:52:23.479 I removed it from my show. Notes. That's what it 1906 01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:25.800 was that went on between me and Jimmy James at 1907 01:52:25.840 --> 01:52:29.079 four in the morning. But he brought you up, Jimmy, 1908 01:52:29.119 --> 01:52:32.279 what exactly you brought up because Chris had used that 1909 01:52:32.359 --> 01:52:35.079 quote or whatever in a previous presentation. Is that what 1910 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:35.359 it was? 1911 01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:43.079 I think we were just having a discussion in the chat. 1912 01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:47.520 Oh, I'm sorry, you Look what it. 1913 01:52:47.479 --> 01:52:51.760 Might be is what happens a lot of times, or 1914 01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:56.720 sometimes people don't pay attention. A lot of times people 1915 01:52:56.720 --> 01:53:01.439 are quoting other people and they missed that part and 1916 01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:06.119 then could contribute it attribute it to the person they hear. 1917 01:53:07.039 --> 01:53:10.880 It's like all these damned fools that actually believed that 1918 01:53:11.079 --> 01:53:14.239 Goldwater came up on his own. 1919 01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:17.039 The expression. 1920 01:53:19.399 --> 01:53:29.039 Was extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, 1921 01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:34.880 and moderation the pursuit of liberty is no virtue. 1922 01:53:35.399 --> 01:53:36.800 And everyone said. 1923 01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:43.239 Look, look, Cold Waters, he likes extremists and extremists. He 1924 01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:48.720 was quoting Cicero from thousands of years ago. And they 1925 01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:56.600 purposely let let that out, didn't report that because they well, 1926 01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:59.720 they had their narrative. They wanted to take gold Water 1927 01:53:59.800 --> 01:54:02.920 and this way instead of properly attributing the. 1928 01:54:02.960 --> 01:54:06.880 Quote fair enough, Like I said, there are historical standards 1929 01:54:06.880 --> 01:54:09.960 to applying a quote, and I did not follow them, 1930 01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:12.439 so I removed it from my show notes. But I'm 1931 01:54:12.439 --> 01:54:15.079 not the only one who's done this. You know. You 1932 01:54:15.119 --> 01:54:19.119 go to the NAACP website right now. You can find 1933 01:54:19.159 --> 01:54:23.199 that quote on a page, you know, which is titled 1934 01:54:24.560 --> 01:54:27.399 let's see the spread of disinformation and how we respond 1935 01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:33.319 at the NUBAC website. NUBACP website. Excuse me, they attribute 1936 01:54:33.319 --> 01:54:36.439 this to William Casey in nineteen eighty one, will know 1937 01:54:36.560 --> 01:54:40.600 our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public 1938 01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:44.039 believes is fake. That's what it says. They are on 1939 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:46.760 their website. There are many people who have quoted this, 1940 01:54:47.279 --> 01:54:51.279 but the truth is there is not a verifiable, historically 1941 01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:59.439 sound source entirely for Casey's saying it. That's the whole 1942 01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:02.079 Can I say this, Yeah, go ahead, I say this. 1943 01:55:03.359 --> 01:55:07.960 That quote gets attributed to Bill Casey from the mid 1944 01:55:08.079 --> 01:55:12.560 nineteen nineties for websites like disinfo dot com. 1945 01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:14.239 Well there you go a lot of. 1946 01:55:14.199 --> 01:55:19.199 These conspiracy sites that were like the wild Wests at 1947 01:55:19.199 --> 01:55:22.159 the beginning of the Internet, and I that's where I. 1948 01:55:22.199 --> 01:55:23.000 Got it from. 1949 01:55:23.359 --> 01:55:26.199 Was he in pre Internet? You know? Like I said, 1950 01:55:26.319 --> 01:55:30.600 May Brussell reported on this quote, and you know was 1951 01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:33.159 reporting on it, and so did The Washington Post reporter 1952 01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:36.640 said it was said at a meeting with the Reagan cabinet, 1953 01:55:37.920 --> 01:55:40.680 you know, like I said, That's where the Barbara Honeger 1954 01:55:40.720 --> 01:55:43.079 thing comes in, where she was present and says he said, 1955 01:55:43.800 --> 01:55:48.479 But again, that's not enough to state that this is 1956 01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:53.880 absolute fact. But there you go. I'm not the only 1957 01:55:53.920 --> 01:55:57.119 one making that mistake, and that is a mistake if 1958 01:55:57.119 --> 01:56:01.359 you're looking for absolute historical efficacy, you know. On the 1959 01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:04.159 other hand, one could say, did William Casey believe this? 1960 01:56:04.319 --> 01:56:06.920 I mean It's like that Rockefeller quote supposedly at a 1961 01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:11.359 Builderberg meeting that he supposedly made right. People used that 1962 01:56:11.439 --> 01:56:15.079 for years and years and they don't necessarily have a 1963 01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:18.800 primary source for it. So anyway, look, we're overtime and 1964 01:56:18.920 --> 01:56:21.760 Aaron Franz is supposed to get started, So I want 1965 01:56:21.800 --> 01:56:26.239 to give everybody who's on the line a chance to 1966 01:56:26.279 --> 01:56:29.520 throw in their final something. Go for it, beginning with 1967 01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:35.840 let's see well Danny from California first, So go ahead. 1968 01:56:35.640 --> 01:56:38.760 Danny, okay, quickly. 1969 01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:41.960 It was interesting you brought up Barbara Honoker. I was 1970 01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:45.560 just gonna stareing right here at my library and I 1971 01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:48.720 have a book by her, October Surprise, which I have 1972 01:56:49.159 --> 01:56:51.399 never read. It's just been sitting there because I've been 1973 01:56:51.479 --> 01:56:52.800 reading other stuff. 1974 01:56:53.239 --> 01:56:53.720 I go to. 1975 01:56:53.920 --> 01:56:56.720 So maybe he's maybe in the not so just in 1976 01:56:56.840 --> 01:56:58.399 future I might read it and see if I can 1977 01:56:58.439 --> 01:57:02.640 get that quote. But thank everybody, thanks for let me 1978 01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:05.439 uh join in. I appreciate it. 1979 01:57:05.479 --> 01:57:07.640 Everybody have a great evening, and may there. 1980 01:57:07.479 --> 01:57:08.399 Be peace in the world. 1981 01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:10.880 There you go, Thank you, Danny, and thank you for 1982 01:57:10.960 --> 01:57:13.920 joining us this week. So Chris, your final word for 1983 01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:14.439 the week. 1984 01:57:19.479 --> 01:57:25.520 Just got to Chuck o'chelly the o'celly effect and my 1985 01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:29.560 good friend Jimmy James, and thank you for having me 1986 01:57:29.640 --> 01:57:30.159 on the call. 1987 01:57:30.520 --> 01:57:34.840 Thank you well, appreciate that, Chris, appreciate you for joining. 1988 01:57:34.920 --> 01:57:38.560 And I do have a feeling that very soon you'll 1989 01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:41.399 be in a better position, and I do truly hope 1990 01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:45.720 that you will appreciate you and hopefully you'll get back 1991 01:57:45.760 --> 01:57:48.159 out there and do work again, and uh, you know, 1992 01:57:48.239 --> 01:57:50.600 be in a better place very very soon, I hope. 1993 01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:53.119 And you and I talked about that privately, and we'll 1994 01:57:53.159 --> 01:57:57.319 leave it at that. You know, I wish I could 1995 01:57:57.319 --> 01:58:00.800 help you myself. Indeed. Anyways, Jimmy Jay Sames, you got 1996 01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:02.560 the final word among callers. 1997 01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:10.960 And I had a good one already, forgot it. 1998 01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:22.159 Okay, I'm sorry about that. Any any kind of just 1999 01:58:22.279 --> 01:58:24.600 general of parting the shot go ahead. 2000 01:58:29.199 --> 01:58:36.159 Oh man, Yeah, it's a good show. 2001 01:58:36.239 --> 01:58:38.920 Everyone, good one. 2002 01:58:40.399 --> 01:58:41.279 Of a good weekend. 2003 01:58:42.039 --> 01:58:45.800 And Pete there you go. Appreciate you, Jimmy, thank you 2004 01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:48.800 be Pete. Go ahead and close this out and I'll 2005 01:58:48.800 --> 01:58:51.279 play the outro and be done because I'm done talking 2006 01:58:51.359 --> 01:58:53.359 for sure. And Aaron Franz is up next with the 2007 01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:57.439 Age of Transitions here on Achelly dot Com. 2008 01:58:57.720 --> 01:58:59.800 Well, I'm glad to do it another week thanks to 2009 01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:03.560 well Danny and Jimmy and Chris and Chris were calling 2010 01:59:03.640 --> 01:59:06.600 in and we will catch everybody next week. 2011 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:11.319 Absolutely, and once again I want to thank everybody who's 2012 01:59:11.319 --> 01:59:15.119 allowed us to continue and participate. I got to pay 2013 01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:17.319 the streaming bill this week, and we'll keep the live 2014 01:59:17.399 --> 01:59:20.840 thing going as long as it is possible and as 2015 01:59:20.920 --> 01:59:25.039 long as I can still talk, that'll help too. But nonetheless, 2016 01:59:25.079 --> 01:59:27.800 like I said, Aaron Franz is up next with the 2017 01:59:27.840 --> 01:59:30.399 Age of Transitions here on the Live O'Kelly Effect. But 2018 01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:33.520 if you're hearing the podcast, you don't care because it's over. 2019 01:59:34.159 --> 01:59:37.119 I'm merely O'Kelly. All of you are the effect and 2020 01:59:37.479 --> 01:59:43.800 this is not my sexy voice. Good Night,