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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back. This is beat On. I am
Speaker 1: back from Europe. Across with me on the screen is
Speaker 1: the one the only fantasy master leth are you himself?
Speaker 3: Great? All bright? How's it going over there?
Speaker 2: Great? Since the last time you were in the States,
Speaker 2: I become the world's biggest soccer person. I'm a soccer
Speaker 2: I'm a soccer fan.
Speaker 3: Now, man, I only found a second sport I have.
Speaker 3: I you know, and you're calling it by the US name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. If I start saying football,
Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna be a little confusing. Okay, So
Speaker 2: I mean I understand the need for the different name.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, let's be real here. I start
Speaker 2: going to football and we're gonna be like who you like.
Speaker 2: I can't even name a team. I don't Chargers, I
Speaker 2: don't know who's in Los Angeles. I don't know.
Speaker 3: But you know that's one of your teams that's gonna start,
Speaker 3: you know, one out of two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm uh so, first of all, my heart,
Speaker 2: my my heart and soul is uh is it was
Speaker 2: ripped out when uh Cabo Verde lost. I mean, god, man,
Speaker 2: I became the biggest cape Verde fan and then they
Speaker 2: go and lose. God, this is like this is it
Speaker 2: was heartbreaking, what a heartbreaking loss by Cabo Verde. And
Speaker 2: now I'm like rooting on Brazil and they lose to Norway.
Speaker 2: Oh it's like God, that's what they shouldn't have let
Speaker 2: giants into East Rutherford. And that's a that's as far
Speaker 2: as like that actually works for soccer and football and
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Don't gray, but that's a that's okay, we can well,
Speaker 1: I'll just take you after word that it works for both.
Speaker 1: It is a little bit shocking Brazil loss, but hey,
Speaker 1: this is this is the World Cup some crazy stuff happens,
Speaker 1: and this one in particular, I was, I was with you.
Speaker 3: I wish Cape verdie one.
Speaker 1: Uh and in our baseball audience probably doesn't care about
Speaker 1: this at all. I was in Europe, Gray, I actually
Speaker 1: watched the Czech Republic game in person and then went
Speaker 1: to the Czech Republic. So that feels like a good
Speaker 1: transition from you know, watching them here to actually being there.
Speaker 1: But the Cubs apparently like it when I'm in Europe, Gray,
Speaker 1: because they went on a big winning streak for the
Speaker 1: last two weeks while I was gone, and as soon
Speaker 1: as I got back, we got smacked by the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm officially gonna start to go fundme for
Speaker 1: Cubs Nation to move me to Europe officially, and then
Speaker 1: we will be you know, I would say the Yankees,
Speaker 1: but the Yankees don't win, so like a team that wins, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know who that would be, the Dodgers. I mean
Speaker 3: it would be the Dodgers. That's that's your winds now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Also, if if you're scoring at home, the
Speaker 2: Cubs start with the same letter as Cape Verde. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I actually I was watching, so yeah, I was, I
Speaker 2: was watching the Yankees for for like, you know, for
Speaker 2: like two minutes in between hydration breaks. Right, So I'm
Speaker 2: watching the Yankees and it's like, what happened that? Oh
Speaker 2: my god? So they got hitting third Jason Dominguez, Cody
Speaker 2: Bellinger's clean up. Cody Bellinger hasn't had a hit since
Speaker 2: like May twelfth. Anthony Volpe is there, is there their
Speaker 2: five hitter, and then they have uh Jazz Chizm who's
Speaker 2: hitting like two fifteen for the year. And then they
Speaker 2: have guys at the end of the lineup that I
Speaker 2: don't even know if I I don't even know if
Speaker 2: I knew their names. There's the Yankees lineup is so bad.
Speaker 2: Someone in the comments today was like, should I start
Speaker 2: Joe Ryan in Yankee Stadium? I was like, I was thinking, like,
Speaker 2: I actually want to start streaming pictures against the Yankees.
Speaker 3: They look so.
Speaker 2: So I don't like, I know Aaron Judge speaking of
Speaker 2: giants as I was, Aaron Judge is I believe one person,
Speaker 2: but somehow he must be like three or four people,
Speaker 2: because I don't remember when Aaron Judge was in the lineup.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the Yankees being like Aaron Judge. And
Speaker 2: then a bunch of other guys. I thought they were
Speaker 2: better than like they are. They are so bad. And
Speaker 2: that's like they're like actually, like Paul Goldschmith's having a
Speaker 2: zombino type year and a bounce back from his it
Speaker 2: seemed like his career was over. He's had a bit
Speaker 2: of a bounce back this year. And and gold Schmidt
Speaker 2: is out of the lineup on Sunday as we record this,
Speaker 2: and it's like he gold Schmid leaves the lineup and
Speaker 2: it's like, Wow, the Yankees really have no one. They
Speaker 2: have no one. Their team is so bad. I don't
Speaker 2: can't remember the last time a Yankees team has looked
Speaker 2: this awful. After like the second hitter, it's like Ben Rice,
Speaker 2: it's essentially Goldsmith, Ben Rice and then the other guys.
Speaker 2: It's not good, it's not great.
Speaker 1: They have just kind of crumbled without the centerpiece of
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, just to terrify everybody. And it is weird
Speaker 1: how much it's changed. I mean, in June they were
Speaker 1: twenty first in runs scored. That's a that's a pretty
Speaker 1: big drop for them from you know where they where
Speaker 1: they had come from in May.
Speaker 3: In June, so yeah, I mean they led the league.
Speaker 1: In run scored in May Gray and then in June
Speaker 1: twenty first, So it was that's quite a fall.
Speaker 3: From grace for that line up.
Speaker 1: And yes, apparently carried by one single bat that does
Speaker 1: all of the work and nobody can hit it once
Speaker 1: he's gone, except for the thirty eight soon to be
Speaker 1: thirty nine year old in the middle of their lineup.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also I think I'm not sure if you
Speaker 2: heard while you were gone for the two weeks.
Speaker 1: Well, I heard you endorse Paul Goldschman as a legitimate
Speaker 1: first baseman, among other other endorsements you were giving for
Speaker 1: the podcast sake.
Speaker 2: I heard, Hey, hey, come on, come on man. It's
Speaker 2: like I feel like it's like when.
Speaker 1: Brian Reynolds Brian Reynolds Gray, you gave a seal of
Speaker 1: approval for the podcast for Brian Reynolds.
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like when you come back, it's
Speaker 2: like it's like you were It's like I was cheating
Speaker 2: on you when I was talking to Mike, like you can't.
Speaker 2: You're not supposed to listen to those podcasts. That's like
Speaker 2: that was between me and Mike. That's not you're not
Speaker 2: those are not for your ears. No, but I was
Speaker 2: gonna say was What I was gonna say was while
Speaker 2: you were away. I don't know if you heard that
Speaker 2: there was a report ino uh from the Athletic UH.
Speaker 2: He said that there is a uh there's a good
Speaker 2: possibility that we have the twenty nineteen bounty balls. Did
Speaker 2: you hear this?
Speaker 3: I did. I heard this.
Speaker 2: The first person I thought of was you. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: beat On's gonna love this. Oh, he's got beat On's
Speaker 2: gonna absolutely be thrilled we have the twenty nineteen bouncy balls. Oh.
Speaker 1: Man, if anything, it messes up my whole you know,
Speaker 1: even on your theory.
Speaker 3: If they're gonna start randomly throwing bouncy ball during.
Speaker 2: The universe, I was I was wondering what your angle
Speaker 2: is gonna be. I was thinking. I was like, he's
Speaker 2: just gonna pretend like this is twenty twenty seventh. I
Speaker 2: thought that was gonna be your angle. You're gonna be like,
Speaker 2: it's actually the calendar that's wrong. It's not the ball.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, I heard the U.
Speaker 2: I heard the report about the bouncy ball the first time.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, be Duncie, the even odd thing.
Speaker 2: This is gonna mess up to even odd things so much.
Speaker 1: So surprisingly Gray, I've done the preliminary research, and not
Speaker 1: to disagree with you know, he's probably looked at it
Speaker 1: from different angles than I.
Speaker 3: Have because he has different data than I have.
Speaker 1: But the average ex velocity, the home run rate, everything
Speaker 1: pretty much is similar to like April, which feels really weird.
Speaker 1: That would be similar to April, so we I have
Speaker 1: a slightly different ball, but really.
Speaker 3: I think it's just one boup blank. It always happens,
Speaker 3: if I'm just honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that was that kind of reminds me
Speaker 2: of my other thing was like also from the also
Speaker 2: I think from the Athletic, not from you know, but
Speaker 2: someone else at the Athletic I think was saying how
Speaker 2: Ranger swore As was a cell because it's gonna heat
Speaker 2: up and his homer perfly, his homer perfly ball was
Speaker 2: gonna you know, uh, it was gonna pick up and
Speaker 2: he was gonna start giving up more homers. And so
Speaker 2: I looked at Ranger swores and I was like, he's
Speaker 2: basically he's a ground ball pitcher, Like why would like
Speaker 2: it's just like just because it heats up and the
Speaker 2: ball starts flying out of the park. It doesn't mean
Speaker 2: every picture is suddenly going to start giving up home
Speaker 2: runs if they're a ground ball pitcher. Actually, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was the athletic, it might have been
Speaker 2: someone else. I just happened to see. Ah. I didn't
Speaker 2: even like the article to read it. I just read.
Speaker 2: I read the little snippet that that comes with the
Speaker 2: article on social media. I don't know, I might even
Speaker 2: read it wrong. But yeah, so, I mean, I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit concerned about all my starters. But
Speaker 2: Randers Suarez, don't beat jinxing him. Guys, Come on, man,
Speaker 2: he's like my one guy who's doing well.
Speaker 1: Please well, to be fair, he has given up only
Speaker 1: one home run in the month of June, or I guess,
Speaker 1: gave up only one home run in the month of June.
Speaker 3: So at least for.
Speaker 1: Him, you know, I guess the heat hasn't happened the
Speaker 1: boss witch has happened in his games, because he's doing
Speaker 1: just fine on that front. You know, he's definitely had
Speaker 1: some second half falloffs, but maybe it's just you know,
Speaker 1: the second half falloff and not necessarily the fact that
Speaker 1: he gives up home runs because that just feels little lazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe the other thing that feels lazy is sometimes the
Speaker 1: All Star game starters. Great, they were announced based on
Speaker 1: recent years, it could have been worse. We've seen a
Speaker 1: lot worse in recent years. So you know, get off
Speaker 1: on the fans for not voting a bunch of people
Speaker 1: that didn't belong here. I would say James Wood feels
Speaker 1: like a big kind of leave from here that he
Speaker 1: should be he should be on the starting roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree. You know, I think there
Speaker 2: was there's a little bit of like the entire the
Speaker 2: entire the entire MLB outside of like the Blue Jays.
Speaker 2: They all, like twenty nine teams from all across the
Speaker 2: country vote for their favorite players, and then you have
Speaker 2: one country that is Canada, and they all vote for
Speaker 2: Ernie Clement.
Speaker 4: That's like Ernie Ernie Clement probably could run for prime minister.
Speaker 4: I think I don't know how it works exactly with
Speaker 4: the Canadian politics of it, but I think Clement could
Speaker 4: probably run. I yeah, I mean, also I think Vlad
Speaker 4: Junior is uh, I mean, Blad Junior is awful. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I had a few gripes with the Blue Jays the
Speaker 4: voting on with the Toronto Blue Jays. But other than that, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's there's a few, Uh, I
Speaker 4: guess James Wood was an oversight and whoever whoever was
Speaker 4: Nick Kurtz, I guess because of Vlad Junior. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, surprising that I guess the uh,
Speaker 4: the fact that Brandon Marsh is having a good year
Speaker 4: and and he got the fact that he got voted
Speaker 4: in by the fans was you know, I think that's honestly,
Speaker 4: it's pretty impressive by the fans that get to vote
Speaker 4: in Brandon Marsh because he's not having like one of
Speaker 4: those loud years, even though it is a good year.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, he's Brandon Marsh has been really solid,
Speaker 4: but the fact that he got voted in is a
Speaker 4: little bit surprising because it's not like one of those
Speaker 4: like really insane years. It's actually it's kind of funny
Speaker 4: that like pe Crow Armstrong, who is actually is having
Speaker 4: a pretty insane year, he should probably be the one
Speaker 4: who was voted in over Brandon Marsh, or even over
Speaker 4: really over like Jan Soda or Andy Pahez. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, I'm kind of surprised because
Speaker 4: Chicago is a big market. I would have thought PCA
Speaker 4: would have gotten voted in. I think it's, you know,
Speaker 4: it's sometimes I don't know the exact why the PCA
Speaker 4: didn't get voted in as a starter, but I would
Speaker 4: I will say that, like sometimes like if the Cubs
Speaker 4: just a aren't home for some games, because a lot
Speaker 4: of a.
Speaker 2: Lot of fans just vote at the stadium. So if
Speaker 2: the Cubs aren't home and he goes on and the
Speaker 2: Cubs are on the road, and PCA has a great
Speaker 2: road trip and then you know, back in Wrigly if
Speaker 2: they're not, if he's if he doesn't have a great
Speaker 2: game back in Wrigly, you know, then maybe the Cubs
Speaker 2: are the Cubs. Fans don't vote for him necessarily. It's
Speaker 2: it's there's so much alchemy involved in like the All
Speaker 2: Star voting from like you know, because of the fans
Speaker 2: are involved. So I don't know. I mean, for the
Speaker 2: most part, I I think they did probably about as
Speaker 2: good a job as you can expect. Like I don't
Speaker 2: know if I would have, you know, like Freddie Freeman
Speaker 2: and Vlad Junior, like I mentioned, uh Max Mounsey, it's
Speaker 2: you know, the Dodgers. The Dodgers have a large pull
Speaker 2: as far as fan fans go because of the uh
Speaker 2: you know, like there's a lot of fair weather fans
Speaker 2: out there that want to vote for a team who
Speaker 2: is doing well and has been doing well, like you know,
Speaker 2: they pick up fans in other cities because they're winning.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you know, it's the All Star Game.
Speaker 2: I probably won't even watch, so that, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean to be fair to the Cubs fans.
Speaker 1: You know, through the first two months of the season,
Speaker 1: PCA was gitting like two thirty at seven home runs
Speaker 1: and then in June he had eleven home runs. I
Speaker 1: had three eighty one, So he might have just started
Speaker 1: a little late for the full vote to really count
Speaker 1: in for him. You know, I was gonna gripe about
Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman and Max Bunsey and erning comment and to
Speaker 1: be honest, like there's nobody at those positions that really
Speaker 1: deserves to have those spots, like you know, vlad Nick
Speaker 1: Kurtzon does or is it for sure? But like looking
Speaker 1: around at the National League first baseman, it's kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: if it's not Freddy, it's like Matt Olsen, who you know,
Speaker 1: he would have been fine. You could have you could
Speaker 1: have voted Maddelson in and twenty two home runs leads.
Speaker 2: The you know, having Matdelson is having a good year.
Speaker 3: I mean it probably should have been him, but I
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman is uh his Dodger and people recognize his name,
Speaker 1: so he gets there again. Max Munsey, I feel like
Speaker 1: it is kind of a default because third base is
Speaker 1: just hideous.
Speaker 2: You know South Stuart. I mean, I don't know where
Speaker 2: South Stewart's uh. I'm assuming he had third base eligibility
Speaker 2: on the All Star ballot. I don't Maybe he didn't.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he was only eligible at first base for
Speaker 2: the All Star ballot. I don't know. But Max Mounsey
Speaker 2: is not having a terrible year. It's just it does
Speaker 2: feel kind of like whatever Max Mounsey. You know, that's
Speaker 2: the one in Los Angeles that is there's a there's
Speaker 2: there's some there's a Max Monsey on every team. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you also heard that while you're in Europe,
Speaker 2: but that's what's happened since you left.
Speaker 3: We're just to sign a Max Monsey.
Speaker 2: You have to have one. Yeah, there's thirty Max monthies.
Speaker 2: They're all over the place.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask some.
Speaker 1: Fantasy questions off of the rankings or the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: Here Brandon Marsh, we sent congratulations to him for making it.
Speaker 1: Where does he fit in the outfield rankings rest of season?
Speaker 1: He is currently number seven on the play Raider for
Speaker 1: the season. Is he top twenty five outfielder rest of season?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's. It's tough because he's actually actually I'm currently
Speaker 2: I am writing up the top one hundred for the
Speaker 2: second half that will go over next week. And you know,
Speaker 2: Brandon Marsh is one of the harder ones to rank because,
Speaker 2: like I mentioned already with uh, you know, he's he
Speaker 2: doesn't have really loud numbers, so it's like, what do
Speaker 2: you you know, it's hard to rely on runs, RBIs
Speaker 2: and batting average, which is where he's really excelling, especially
Speaker 2: batting average. I you know, I I will say I
Speaker 2: don't think he's the seventh best outfielder in general. Where
Speaker 2: he's gonna fall for me is still up in the air.
Speaker 2: But I want to say he's in the top one
Speaker 2: hundred for sure overall that is for outfielder, maybe fifteen ish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like that sounds about right off
Speaker 2: the top of my head.
Speaker 1: All right, how about him? Or we're just gonna go
Speaker 1: straight to the line. Ian Hat currently number twenty two
Speaker 1: on the Playwriter.
Speaker 2: No, Brandon Brandon Marsh over ian Hap Ian hap Is
Speaker 2: is not bad, as everyone who's ever listened to this
Speaker 2: podcast knows. I do like Ian Happ, but I'd say
Speaker 2: Brandon Marsh at this point is over Ian Hap.
Speaker 1: We say we like ian Happ and then we do
Speaker 1: these uh would you rather? And it really seems like
Speaker 1: we don't.
Speaker 2: You said you took a guy who's as the seventh
Speaker 2: best outfielder and you and you try and comp them.
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of feels like a fair comparison,
Speaker 1: like you're just gonna get pieces, not both of them,
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna get loud numbers from either of them.
Speaker 2: Well right now, okay, so right now, I'll say Brandon
Speaker 2: Marsh beats uh ian Hap in average for sure, probably
Speaker 2: steals right power is ian Hap. Ian Hap beats him
Speaker 2: in power, which probably keeps them close. Ian Hap I
Speaker 2: think hits a little bit higher in the order, but
Speaker 2: it keeps him close on RBIs because Brandon Marsh has
Speaker 2: a solid lineup that he's you know, and hitting for
Speaker 2: a good average. So I think they're pretty close. Probably
Speaker 2: in in RBI's and runs, I'd probably say, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it's close to a push as well, but
Speaker 2: I'd probably say Ian Hap so Ian Happened runs in Homer's,
Speaker 2: marsh In steels average, and RBIs but Iria is super close.
Speaker 2: So I mean, not not dramatically different, but I think
Speaker 2: marsh Overhap. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, how about marsh or has it hit them? Cody Bellinger.
Speaker 2: Cody Cody, Cody's been bad, man, I'd probably I'd still
Speaker 2: go Cody Bellinger though because of just you know, his uh,
Speaker 2: his pedigree. I'm still going to Cody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those two flup seasons really really holding him over
Speaker 1: in in the fantasy world for forever.
Speaker 2: How about he wasn't bad last year. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: you're making like he was like a one forty plus
Speaker 2: homer season in the.
Speaker 3: Bouncy He was. He was in the boundary of what.
Speaker 2: He was, I know, the bouncy ball year with Cody Bouinger,
Speaker 2: but with the MVP year, but I mean, he was.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been bad in other years.
Speaker 3: He's fine, He's fine, I'm just giving you hard time.
Speaker 2: Gray.
Speaker 3: Another guy that you absolutely.
Speaker 1: Love, Michael Harris a second, or Randa marsh Uh you know,
Speaker 1: actually feels kind of similar, honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely similar. I I think I think
Speaker 2: I'm going Harris.
Speaker 3: I think I would go Hard's too.
Speaker 1: He's finally climbing the climb, climbed the lineup, which was
Speaker 1: always the issue with him. If he's gonna stay getting
Speaker 1: in the middle of the lineup or towards the top
Speaker 1: of the lineup, I'll.
Speaker 3: Go with I'll go with Michael Harris. All right.
Speaker 1: Moving on to another All Star competitor here, c J.
Speaker 3: Abrams.
Speaker 1: He gets the starting shortstop for the National League. Is
Speaker 1: he currently the number two short stop in Fantasy rest
Speaker 1: of season?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have. I think i've already. I think
Speaker 2: I don't. I want to. I don't want to say
Speaker 2: locked in my top twenty for the second half, but CJ.
Speaker 2: Abrams is definitely in there. And yeah, he's it's Bobby
Speaker 2: Wood Junior and then player player player, player player, CJ
Speaker 2: Abrams something like it's something like that. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: definitely Bobby Wood Junior and then CJ. Abrams and CJ.
Speaker 2: Abrams isn't that far outside of I want to say
Speaker 2: he might be in the top ten, so top twelve
Speaker 2: probably at least. Yeah, I don't know. I'm still looking
Speaker 2: at it. You know, Ellie de la Cruz, I mean,
Speaker 2: Ellie de la Cruz is definitely in the U. I
Speaker 2: mean he's he's in the conversation for sure. I do
Speaker 2: think Ellie de la Cruz probably still has higher upside
Speaker 2: and he could probably you know, explode and have a
Speaker 2: huge second half. But I mean C J. Ammerws looks great,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean it's it's tough man, but I
Speaker 2: I think I think it's Bobby Wood Junior, then CJ. Abrams,
Speaker 2: then Ellie for shortstops, and then there's a long pause
Speaker 2: before we get to Gunner Henderson. Along it was a dramatic,
Speaker 2: dramatic pause before Gunner Henderson. I believe.
Speaker 3: That feels that feels fair, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, I love Gunner Henderson, but
Speaker 1: it almost feels faired. I asked if he's even the
Speaker 1: next guy to be honest for this season long term.
Speaker 1: Absolutely still love him, but I don't even know if
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the third shortstop or the fourth short stop,
Speaker 1: I guess and when I when I sit down and
Speaker 1: relooked for the second half, two guys that I think
Speaker 1: probably fit in that area between Bobby Wit and c. J.
Speaker 1: Abrams Junior, Cameron Arrow, and Nick Kurtz. Nick Kurtz should
Speaker 1: be starting, he is not. But would you take Nick
Speaker 1: Kurtz Junior Cameran Arrow if you're redrafting for the second half?
Speaker 2: Well, and uh, for uh for specific sake, that doesn't
Speaker 2: that didn't make any sense, but uh, Vlad Junior is
Speaker 2: already backed out of the All Star Game. He's he's rest,
Speaker 2: he's not going to participate. So Nick Kurtz is going
Speaker 2: to be starting, even though vladd Junior was voted as
Speaker 2: the first base starter. So anyway, just you know, for
Speaker 2: whatever that.
Speaker 3: Somebody will y'all, it's like you don't clarify for sure.
Speaker 2: Right exactly so for clarifications sake, I Nick Kurtz is
Speaker 2: like he's become basically my my newest Gian Carlow on
Speaker 2: the Marlins. I love Nick Kurtz. I think you know
Speaker 2: I mentioned and I think Nick Kurtz I mentioned this.
Speaker 2: I don't know where I mentioned it. I think I
Speaker 2: mentioned it with Craig Mish I was on his show
Speaker 2: recently and I mentioned I think if I could make
Speaker 2: a long term bet that Nick Kurtz will be a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer in twenty years, I would make that
Speaker 2: bet today. I think Nick Kurtz is going to be
Speaker 2: like if he stays with the A's between Sacramento and
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. I mean, Nick Kurtz is going to be
Speaker 2: a lock for five hundred homers, a four hundred on
Speaker 2: base percentage. He's gonna be winning. He'll win a few
Speaker 2: MVPs in his career. So I'm a huge Nick Kurtz fan.
Speaker 2: Junior Caminio is I think he's at like, I want
Speaker 2: to say, eleven homers in like ten days or something
Speaker 2: something something insane. So yeah, and they're I mean they're close.
Speaker 2: I think Nick Kurtz actually has a handful more steals.
Speaker 2: So I like Nick Kurtz better than Junior caminiro. But
Speaker 2: they're super close to each other. I think probably, you know,
Speaker 2: like one's gonna be one's probably top five, top five
Speaker 2: or seven overall, and the other one is like top
Speaker 2: nine to twelve maybe something like that. I mean, they're
Speaker 2: they're both really good.
Speaker 1: They I just wanted to hold you and against it
Speaker 1: and make you decide who they who the best corner
Speaker 1: infield in the rankings was gonna be sounds like it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're going Kurtz. But we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: when you come out with your rankings and we dissect those.
Speaker 1: That's always a fun show for me. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: some stuff that's happening in the game, Gray, Julio Rodriguez
Speaker 1: is heading to the IL with concussion seven dail. He could,
Speaker 1: I think, in theory, be back before the All Star break,
Speaker 1: but also feels like one of those opportunities just to
Speaker 1: let him have a few extra days and and get
Speaker 1: through the All Star break healthy. Obviously, you want to
Speaker 1: trade for him if you can because of his second
Speaker 1: half history. Gray, would you trade Andy Paye starter in
Speaker 1: the All Star Game for Julio Regaz?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Julio Rodrigez. I mean, now is the time
Speaker 2: to get Julio Rodriguez on your fantasy team. This is
Speaker 2: this is the point in the season when you want
Speaker 2: to trade for him. So yeah, Jay Rod over Pages
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Over the hottest player in baseball or one of them
Speaker 1: in PCA.
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's tough, man, you know. I actually I think
Speaker 2: I've I've come around on PCA in the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks because like it's at this point it's undeniable.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be uh. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be the idiot who's still saying PCA is not good
Speaker 2: when he's sitting on a twenty twenty season at the
Speaker 2: All Star break and his batting average hasn't been bad either,
Speaker 2: So I'm going PCA over j Rod. I think PCA,
Speaker 2: like you know, a lot of things can happen in
Speaker 2: the second half that could change my opinion once again
Speaker 2: on him, But as of right now, I think PCA
Speaker 2: is like a top seven to ten overall player going
Speaker 2: into next year. Like he looks legit, like nothing, like yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's bullied a little bit by the
Speaker 2: hot month of June, like the insane month of June,
Speaker 2: but still like a guy who like I believe we're
Speaker 2: recording this on Sunday, I believe he stole two bags today,
Speaker 2: Like if a guy's gonna steal two bags, like and
Speaker 2: go one for four and then on other and then
Speaker 2: like hit like you know, eleven to twelve homers in
Speaker 2: another month, Like it's like Pa.
Speaker 5: Looks like a he looks like a superstar, like he
Speaker 5: looks for at least for fantasy, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: I think he's probably he's made the case, and I'm
Speaker 5: believing it at this point for like as a top
Speaker 5: ten player.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see. If you know, he has another
Speaker 2: terrible second half like he did last year, then you know,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll change my opinion a bit on him. But
Speaker 2: as of right now, he looks legit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that happens, very well, we'll do it. We'll
Speaker 3: dry and we will trade him for Juli Oldriguez.
Speaker 1: Every single season and just win every single league feels
Speaker 1: like just an ultimate winner. Let's try and find a
Speaker 1: Jay Rod in between here, o'deo Cruz or or j Rod.
Speaker 2: I'm going Jay Rod over O'Neil Cruz. I think I'm
Speaker 2: still I'm still worried about the strikeouts with O'Neil Cruz,
Speaker 2: and and now there's the injury and potential injury concerns.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know either way, I'm going Jay Rod.
Speaker 3: All right? How about how about breakout Jordan Walker?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna have to go Jay Rod, just because
Speaker 2: we have the track record of him being so great.
Speaker 2: In the second half. But I you know, I do
Speaker 2: love Jordan Walker obviously, but I'm going Jay.
Speaker 3: Rod, all right, Jay Roder soda.
Speaker 2: I'm going one sodo.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So there's a I feel like we have a good
Speaker 1: evaluation for where you're taking or training for jay Rod
Speaker 1: amongst the outfielders. And let's talk about some replacement options
Speaker 1: for jay Rod. There's some that are worth talking about.
Speaker 1: You tell us if they are hots potatoes or if
Speaker 1: they are hot and ready to go gray as Morellen
Speaker 1: Valdez for the Pirates in twenty one games, he has
Speaker 1: six on runs.
Speaker 3: He's sending three thirty three three two three eighty four.
Speaker 1: He does have a little bit of a strikeout problem
Speaker 1: at thirty two point nine percent, but he has just
Speaker 1: been performing since he got called up. Uh, definitely a
Speaker 1: good week for him. What are your thoughts here on Valdez?
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I mean, I like Valdez a lot
Speaker 2: for power. I don't think we've seen enough as far
Speaker 2: as like long term, but I mean he does, I
Speaker 2: mean does have power. I think that a certain point,
Speaker 2: you know, because he's striking out currently at like thirty
Speaker 2: over thirty five percent as of Sunday, and he's hitting
Speaker 2: three ten, so that obviously is you know, fluky. He's
Speaker 2: got a four to twenty one babbit, so you know
Speaker 2: he's probably, i mean neutrally a two point thirty hitter.
Speaker 2: So at some point he's gonna go ice cold. He
Speaker 2: does have good power, and if he's hot, I'm fine
Speaker 2: picking him up in literally any league, Like I would
Speaker 2: grab Valdez in the shallowest of leagues. But I think
Speaker 2: right now it's it's hard to be like, you know,
Speaker 2: too enthusiastic about a long term pitcher when he's still
Speaker 2: striking out as much as he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think eventually he just kind of settles into a
Speaker 1: power only type of bat. But enjoy the hot streak
Speaker 1: while he's going, and certainly a decent replacement until after
Speaker 1: the All Star break.
Speaker 3: If you're looking around, how about over.
Speaker 1: In Colorado, Cold Carry in the last twenty three games,
Speaker 1: he has four months two stone bases, he's seeing ninety three.
Speaker 1: He does have to strikeout rate under control, he's under
Speaker 1: twenty percent. He's got a walk rate over twelve percent.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here on Cole Carrick in Colorado?
Speaker 2: Uh? You know, I think he's probably just a Rockies
Speaker 2: like at home, a streamer for at home in most
Speaker 2: shallower leagues. In a deeper league, I mean, I do
Speaker 2: like he is making good contact, and I buy him
Speaker 2: in general, I just think it might be a bit
Speaker 2: early to be like completely invested. I remember when he
Speaker 2: got called up. He got called up the same day
Speaker 2: as Braid and Montgomery, and I remember being a little
Speaker 2: bit higher on Braid and Montgomery than I was on
Speaker 2: Cole Carrick. But I've switched on that. I do think
Speaker 2: I like carg better than Montgomery, But I still think
Speaker 2: in most leagues, like I have Cole carrag in a
Speaker 2: bunch of leagues, and I know there's there's quite a
Speaker 2: few days where, like you know, he'll even though he's
Speaker 2: a switch hitter for whatever reason, you know, product it's
Speaker 2: the Rockies and they just do dumb stuff. But like he'll,
Speaker 2: he'll be benched randomly, so you have to find a replacement.
Speaker 2: Like I think even on Sunday, I think he even
Speaker 2: didn't play today, and it's like, why why is he
Speaker 2: not playing? Who knows? I don't know. I have no
Speaker 2: idea other than you know, colon Rockies. That's it. That's
Speaker 2: the only reason I can imagine is why he's not
Speaker 2: playing unless he's, you know, nursing an injury or something
Speaker 2: that I didn't hear about. But yeah, he's you know,
Speaker 2: so it's like it's stuff like that that makes it
Speaker 2: difficult to like give him a full endorsement. But I
Speaker 2: do buy like what he's doing. I like him more
Speaker 2: than Valdez for what it's worth. Like he I don't
Speaker 2: think carrig is really gonna be uh, Like, he doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like a flukey, like just a hot streak guy,
Speaker 2: Like he looks fine, like a legitimate hitter who you
Speaker 2: can roster in most leagues, except you know, it's a
Speaker 2: lot easier to roster a guy in a daily league
Speaker 2: when you can replace him, like when he's not playing
Speaker 2: for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, would you take him over both of his teammates,
Speaker 3: Jake McCarthy and Mickey Moniac.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, absolutely not no.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Moniac has been fantastic and Jake McCarthy's been pretty solid too,
Speaker 2: So yeah, no moniac and McCarthy over Carrick.
Speaker 1: Okay, just trying to make sure we know where he
Speaker 1: fits in there. Let's talk about the Kyle. Clearly we
Speaker 1: went wrong all along and didn't bail on him at all.
Speaker 1: Gray Kyle Stowers three home runs four twenty three this week.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's a top ten outfielder over
Speaker 1: the last thirty days. It's Kyle Stowers was gonna do
Speaker 1: what he did last year and just kind of find
Speaker 1: that that power swing of his again. Or is this
Speaker 1: just a short, little power burst to be enjoyed.
Speaker 2: I believe if I had all the homers from Kyle,
Speaker 2: all the homers and RBIs and all the stats that
Speaker 2: came from Kyle Stowers from the day after I said
Speaker 2: you can give up on them, and I also had
Speaker 2: all the stats from the day after I said you
Speaker 2: can give up on Dansby Swanson, I believe I'd be
Speaker 2: in first place in every league. Uncanny how I was.
Speaker 2: I managed to time exactly correct when to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: Kyle Stowers, I'm done with you, and then he suddenly
Speaker 2: got hot almost immediately. It's pretty it's pretty amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think, you know, that cold streak really
Speaker 2: sort of like it warned me off of him a bit,
Speaker 2: where I you know, for a long time I thought
Speaker 2: Kyle Steuers was someone who I could roster in every league,
Speaker 2: you know, even during his cold streaks, but that was
Speaker 2: a really brutal one. And you know, his strikeouts are up.
Speaker 2: He doesn't do anything other than hit for power, which
Speaker 2: is fine, but I yeah, I mean, I'm I'm kind
Speaker 2: of I've cooled on Calvin Kyle Stewers, even though, like
Speaker 2: right now, because he's hot, I would roster him again,
Speaker 2: but I definitely have cooled on him in general just
Speaker 2: because of like you know, he just didn't look very
Speaker 2: good for like two months. So yeah, I would, I
Speaker 2: would get back in, but it would be I would
Speaker 2: have a little bit of wariness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, timporary back in and he kind of did this
Speaker 1: last year. We had one month he three sixty four
Speaker 1: with ten home runs. That was that was kind of
Speaker 1: my I don't know if he's gonna do it.
Speaker 3: He hits the ball hard enough to do it, but
Speaker 3: you know, right the hot streak, I.
Speaker 1: Think after the hot streak, you may just return to
Speaker 1: being normal boring Kyle Stowers unfortunately, so just a joy
Speaker 1: while you can.
Speaker 3: His teammate Javier Sonosa Son.
Speaker 1: Noah, he probably gets an autorable mention here too, as
Speaker 1: he's been uh he's been hitting really well recently. Would
Speaker 1: you grab him or would do you like Cole Carrig
Speaker 1: or As Marilyn Valdas wark.
Speaker 2: Uh, I would say Cole Carrig, Cole Carig valved As.
Speaker 2: Then Javier So how sona sona, sona sona. I think
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 3: We're we're we're somewhere around it. Gray, I think we're
Speaker 3: close enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for deeper leagues, I was looking around for just
Speaker 1: some more replacement options. Give me your favorite out of
Speaker 1: Victor Roblist, Michael Conforto, Taylor Tremlin, Derek Hill.
Speaker 2: Place. Yeah, that's that's more of a needs thing. So
Speaker 2: if I need steals, I would go Roblaz If I
Speaker 2: needed power, I'd go Confordo, and I wouldn't go tram
Speaker 2: Or Hill.
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Connor Griffin has hit the ground running since his return
Speaker 1: from injury, quite literally. He is hitting two eighty six
Speaker 1: with six dolen bases and a home run over that time.
Speaker 1: Where is he slotting in for you for the post
Speaker 1: All Star Break shortstop middle infield rankings? I mean, does
Speaker 1: he go over Jeremy Payne should also be back right
Speaker 1: right after the All Star Breaker, maybe right before.
Speaker 2: No, I think I think I'm going uh, I think
Speaker 2: I'm going Jeremy Payne. It's it's a tough one, you know.
Speaker 2: I think Connor Griffin, Connor Griffin, JJ Weatherholt, Paynya. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean those guys I think are all sort of
Speaker 2: they're all tough, and they're tough in like in in
Speaker 2: the sense of like ranking and where exactly you want them,
Speaker 2: I'd say probably Paynya for most stats outside of steals,
Speaker 2: Condor Griffin. I like Connor Griffin a lot. I worry
Speaker 2: still a little bit about like you know, strikeout rate's
Speaker 2: a little bit high. I mean, it's not bad, it's
Speaker 2: twenty six percent. I think Connor Griffin right now for
Speaker 2: steals for sure, Like I he might steal forty bags
Speaker 2: this this year. He might steal twenty bags in the
Speaker 2: second half and and have on the year. I want
Speaker 2: to be shocked by it. He might hit two sixty
Speaker 2: and with like five homers, five five, twenty two sixty
Speaker 2: in the second half. That's a solid second half. But
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was actually I saw Connor Griffin
Speaker 2: stole a bunch of bags this weekend. I was actually
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, where is he going next year
Speaker 2: in like drafts, because like I mean, is it weather
Speaker 2: Holt then him is a is a Griffin then weather
Speaker 2: Holt Uh then Payna. I think as far as like
Speaker 2: like for the second half, I think I'm going Paya first,
Speaker 2: but for next year, I feel like it's gonna be
Speaker 2: Connor Griffin all the way. Like I think it's like
Speaker 2: his upside is gonna be so insane. I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna overdraft Connor Griffin next year, like by a
Speaker 2: decent amount, like embarrassingly, so.
Speaker 3: I can't blame you.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna fit into that there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a gap in shortstop, there's gonna be the top guys,
Speaker 1: and then there's that gap to kind of the guys
Speaker 1: you were talking about or when like zach Netto, if
Speaker 1: he finishes strong, you know, that's that's pretty much it
Speaker 1: amongst them.
Speaker 2: I think the I don't know honestly, the guy who's
Speaker 2: gonna be. Unfortunately for me, I feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be in on Gunner Henderson again next year because like
Speaker 2: I mean, if if he falls to where I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna fall to, which is like you know, the
Speaker 2: thirty thirty to forty range. Overall, I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to be I'm gonna have to be in again.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be hard to refuse Gunner Henderson
Speaker 2: if he's going at like thirty five overall it is.
Speaker 3: We know the talent is there.
Speaker 1: We've seen it from him. I just I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it really since the injury. Like the numbers are still
Speaker 1: he's still he's still doing stuff for the team and
Speaker 1: it's still productive. But I'm gonna have to see how
Speaker 1: the second half goes for Gunner. There's may have to
Speaker 1: be an adjustment here.
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I want to go down the like Wyatt Langford path
Speaker 1: and just keep beating my head against the glass waiting for,
Speaker 1: you know, the magic to happen despite the talent we see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm I'm out on Langford. I'm so out
Speaker 2: on I can't be more out of that guy. Man.
Speaker 2: I I unfoun I didn't draft him this year because
Speaker 2: I was out on him in the preseason. But I
Speaker 2: mean he has shown nothing is as far and remotely
Speaker 2: as far as like the prospect pedigree that supposedly was
Speaker 2: coming with why Langford, I don't know where I don't
Speaker 2: know where it is, if where the seventy grade hit
Speaker 2: tool is or or the seventy grade everything is, I
Speaker 2: don't know where it is. But I'm so out in
Speaker 2: wyat Langford. No way, man, I'm not. I'm not in
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 1: I will say for his for his case, because I
Speaker 1: have him on the team or two. He did have
Speaker 1: a very nice June before he got injured. He was
Speaker 1: seeing three seventeen at seven home runs three stone bases
Speaker 1: is pretty pretty solid June. He was putting together, but
Speaker 1: then he got injured, and that's part of the White
Speaker 1: Langford experience unfortunately. Connor Griffin for this season, Gray, would
Speaker 1: you trade the hottest beat in all of baseball, Dansby Swanson?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would trade Swanson for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've mentioned Zach Ntto. Would you have Zachnetto or
Speaker 3: or Connor Griffin.
Speaker 2: I would go to Zach Neto.
Speaker 1: Connor Griffin or Trey Turner. Who is I mean kind
Speaker 1: of essentially Connor Griffin at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've cooled on Trey Turner. I think I think
Speaker 2: he's I think he's over the hill at this point,
Speaker 2: So I'm going Connor Griffin. I mean, trade Turner is fine.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, I just feel like his name value
Speaker 2: is more than he actually is at this point, So
Speaker 2: I'm going Connor Griffin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you're going to offer them to me,
Speaker 1: straight up, I would still take Trade Turner just because
Speaker 1: it feels like the consistency will be there just to
Speaker 1: give you the numbers in the end of the day.
Speaker 1: But if you're if you need stolen bases or if
Speaker 1: your need to kind of shoot for something, I could
Speaker 1: definitely see taking Dona Griffin.
Speaker 3: And I just feel like whoever our.
Speaker 1: Owns Trade Turner is gonna want more for him because
Speaker 1: they drafted him and they're the person who still believes
Speaker 1: in them. Maybe that's not true because you were you
Speaker 1: were one of those people. But I actually kind of
Speaker 1: think there is a turnaround comany because he's had a
Speaker 1: little bit of bad luck trade Turner in regards to
Speaker 1: his babbitt. So I don't hate going for Trade Turner
Speaker 1: right now and buying a little low somebody I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna buy low on because I don't like dealing with
Speaker 1: him once he gets this point in the season. Is
Speaker 1: Cory Seger. He is to the point he's having an
Speaker 1: ile stant with back issues. Maybe this is you know,
Speaker 1: a Bill Jackson, Greg Popovich using the TV timeouts to
Speaker 1: get guys rest, but uh, Cory Segeran back issues has
Speaker 1: happened too many times.
Speaker 3: Gray, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't really understand the reference, but I think I do,
Speaker 2: and I'll say I think that that actually sounds like
Speaker 2: what the Dodgers do, where it's like, oh, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: uh Will Smith? Yeah, oh it is yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh yeah, Will Smith is out for
Speaker 2: three weeks with uh.
Speaker 6: Uh like yeah, anyway, Dalton Russians are catcher like, wait, wait,
Speaker 6: does Will Smith actually have an injury or they're just
Speaker 6: saving him with the playoffs?
Speaker 2: Look what's going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will go through the full explanation for you
Speaker 1: because you don't care and I won't drag our audience
Speaker 1: through that.
Speaker 3: But yes, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about some middle infield replacements because it
Speaker 1: could be that with Courseiger, it could be that he's
Speaker 1: out the rest of the season, and if you need
Speaker 1: some middle infield guys to replace him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Cody Clements says five home runs seven games, and he
Speaker 1: has multi position eligibility. Cole Young has been very solid
Speaker 1: all year with a two sixty average, nineal runs, three
Speaker 1: Stone bases, Bason Win two forty nine, four home four
Speaker 1: home runs seven Stone bases, and Jacob Gonzalez over his
Speaker 1: twenty seven games up as two of runs and he's
Speaker 1: hitting two sixty. Who out of that group do you
Speaker 1: like as a middle infield replacement option?
Speaker 3: Give me, give me a one and a two out
Speaker 3: of that group.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, Cody Clemens looks like, at least in the
Speaker 2: last you know, week or so, he's been so hot
Speaker 2: that Cody Clemens looks like the clear winner of the group.
Speaker 2: After that, I'd probably say Cole Young just because I
Speaker 2: have I have a soft spot for Cool Young. I
Speaker 2: think he's I think he's a good hitter. Uh, and
Speaker 2: he's also been hot enough considering you're putting him up
Speaker 2: against like Mason Winn and stuff. So yeah, I'll go
Speaker 2: to Cody Clemens and then Cool Young.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, only wanted to go up against you know,
Speaker 1: people that are starting. That doesn't really help anybody replace
Speaker 1: Corey Seeger. So that's two we got. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: Ryan Weathers Gray. You know, it's it's time to decide
Speaker 1: whether we're going to weather the storm or flat him
Speaker 1: out of our drosters.
Speaker 3: His first eight starts a three year, A.
Speaker 1: One one one whip, a ten point eight Capro nine
Speaker 1: two point six walk for nine. The next eight starts
Speaker 1: he has a five to one nine year, A one
Speaker 1: three two whip.
Speaker 3: The Capri nine has dropped over one.
Speaker 1: He's down down to nine point one four, still solid,
Speaker 1: but down from where he for sure the walk break
Speaker 1: got a little bit better at two point five. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts here on Ryan Weathers? Is it somebody
Speaker 1: that you're you're holding out hope that he's gonna turn
Speaker 1: it around, or has he hit the you know, the
Speaker 1: rookie young picture wall.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't think he's got really a rookie.
Speaker 3: Or that young, but right, well.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I think I think the biggest issue with
Speaker 2: Ryan Weathers is I don't like, I don't think we're
Speaker 2: privy to how he's feeling necessarily, and I I do
Speaker 2: think I want to be shocked if like we get
Speaker 2: like a week or two into this, uh and it's
Speaker 2: like oh, by the way, like or if he has
Speaker 2: like a bounce back like after the All Star break,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh yeah, you know by the way he
Speaker 2: had like a tired arm, uh, you know, prior to
Speaker 2: the All Star break, and that's why he was struggling.
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't shot to hear that because like he is,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's thrown more innings than he has
Speaker 2: in a long time. I wouldn't be shocked if he's
Speaker 2: just fatigued. So I say, I'd like to hold him,
Speaker 2: like in most leagues, at least in probably in a
Speaker 2: fifteen team mix league or deeper. I'm holding him because,
Speaker 2: like I do think he can come out of this.
Speaker 2: But right now, in like a shallower league, like in
Speaker 2: a ten team mix league, you have so many options.
Speaker 2: I think he's probably you can move on from Ryan
Speaker 2: Weather's there. And then in the twelve team mix league,
Speaker 2: it's a little bit trickier because I'm you know, it
Speaker 2: depends on your options, but I would probably hold Weather's
Speaker 2: in a twelve team mix league, I think he can
Speaker 2: come out of it. But I do feel like he's
Speaker 2: probably dealing with a tired arm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't been one of our RcLs. I'm holding
Speaker 1: him for now to see if he he comes out
Speaker 1: of this. As you mentioned, it might just be that
Speaker 1: he's a little tired, or if he needs to, you know,
Speaker 1: sit through a rotation tumb with the All Star break
Speaker 1: maybe coming at the right time for him. But if
Speaker 1: you come out the other side of the All Star
Speaker 1: break and it doesn't look like anything has changed. So
Speaker 1: since the first date, the Vlosity's dropped a little bit
Speaker 1: still obviously, Plus he's sitting over ninety five, but he
Speaker 1: was throwing and he's seven ninety eight averaging those early
Speaker 1: in the season. He's down to like ninety five. That's
Speaker 1: that's a significant drop. When we're talking about miles per hour,
Speaker 1: even even at the top level, usually don't see two
Speaker 1: three drop miles per hour drop by the All Star break.
Speaker 1: Maybe over the course of the season on the younger
Speaker 1: or a you know, less innings arm. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I'm gonna be looking for after the All
Speaker 1: Star break. Is the vlosity coming back?
Speaker 3: Or not.
Speaker 1: Speaking of talking about somebody we have to watch about
Speaker 1: the vlosity coming back. Let's sagn off it up as
Speaker 1: Bryan Helsley is heading back to the IL.
Speaker 3: Who do you like him? Baltimore Gray as his replacement
Speaker 3: for now.
Speaker 2: I believe Friday and Saturday, Tyler Wells got to save
Speaker 2: both both days, so I would just go Tyler Wells.
Speaker 2: But I think Kittridge and Canoe are both decent, So
Speaker 2: it's like, it's not a terrible situation to speculate on
Speaker 2: if you're willing to take a chance on like guys
Speaker 2: just and just to get good ratios potentially and some
Speaker 2: cas But I would probably I would go Tyler Wells.
Speaker 2: If I only had room to speculate on one guy,
Speaker 2: I would go Wells and and hope he is the guy.
Speaker 2: And as of right the second it appears to be.
Speaker 2: Even though if you would have asked me on Thursday,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would not have said Tyler Wells. He
Speaker 2: would not have been He would not have been my
Speaker 2: original speculation pick, probably because I think there's better guys,
Speaker 2: especially Cano. I think Canoe's probably the best guy as
Speaker 2: far as like stuff and arm goes. But if they're
Speaker 2: gonna go with Tyler Wells for saves, then Tyler Wells
Speaker 2: is the guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it Canol has been a little while recently. They
Speaker 3: probably probably need to get him settled down before they
Speaker 3: hand him back that role.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you, I think it's Wells for now.
Speaker 1: And then you can speculate on either of the other
Speaker 1: two honestly, to see who who kind of holds it
Speaker 1: together and gets the role if anything happens. For the
Speaker 1: White Sox, they have three saves in two weeks, all
Speaker 1: to different people, one of which went to Tyler Schweitzer,
Speaker 1: who got sent down right after he got his save.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody in this bulpen he want?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Grand Taylor absolutely, one hundred. I think he's I
Speaker 2: think he's like on the verge of becoming top ten closer.
Speaker 2: I like Grand Taylor a lot. My only issue with
Speaker 2: him is the White Sox may not go to him
Speaker 2: every single time. So if like you're in a league
Speaker 2: where like you can only really hold guys who are
Speaker 2: getting actual saves, then Taylor is a bit of an
Speaker 2: issue as far as that goes. Because, like even you mentioned,
Speaker 2: like they went to three guys for three different saves,
Speaker 2: so obviously the you know, it's not like a done
Speaker 2: deal that Grand Taylor is gonna get all those saves,
Speaker 2: But he is. I think he's the best arm by
Speaker 2: far there, so I would I would roster him in
Speaker 2: most leagues. I think he's I think he's actually pretty solid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you if you have to rofter one,
Speaker 1: I'm going with him because lukem and Sir Anthony and
Speaker 1: Bengaz have both been very shaky, so at least Grant
Speaker 1: Taylor has been good. If you're gonna speculate on saves
Speaker 1: over for the A's, Mason Barnette got it save. Do
Speaker 1: you think he's getting gonna get more looks here or
Speaker 1: is this just just going to be continued a.
Speaker 3: Mess here with the the.
Speaker 1: Triple or quadruple closer role that they've been running out
Speaker 1: for for the A's.
Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of wish Mason Barnett was the closer,
Speaker 2: but me saying it is not gonna make it true,
Speaker 2: so I can't. Honestly, I feel like you're you're You're
Speaker 2: probably as good as a gamble just throwing a dart
Speaker 2: at the seven names in the A's bullpen, and if
Speaker 2: you the name you hit could be the next guy
Speaker 2: to get a save, because I don't think there's any
Speaker 2: sort of rhyme or reason with what's going on in
Speaker 2: the A's bullpen. But I would, you know, Mason Barnett
Speaker 2: doesn't look terrible, so I'd probably go him if I
Speaker 2: was speculating, But you know they got They have other
Speaker 2: guys that really potentially are are not great, but they
Speaker 2: could potentially get a save.
Speaker 1: They could And it could be Elvis el Dorado, It
Speaker 1: could be Hova Hair, It could be Mark Letter Junior,
Speaker 1: it could be it could be anybody gray speaking of,
Speaker 1: it could be anybody over in Detroit. Kyder Montero got
Speaker 1: a extended save and has been you know, he's been
Speaker 1: a pretty solid armed for the Tigers without a role.
Speaker 1: Do you think closer is the role? Or is there
Speaker 1: somebody else that you wanted this pin? How did you
Speaker 1: even use a guy like Kyder Montero, Like are you
Speaker 1: picking him up and using him when you don't really
Speaker 1: want to run somebody out there?
Speaker 3: Or is he somebody you're you're comfortable like Rostering Actually.
Speaker 2: Actually in the in the al only league where I'm
Speaker 2: in first place, the league where we're we're in it together,
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm beating you. I have Kyder Montero in
Speaker 2: that league, and I started him this week. But I
Speaker 2: honestly looked at my uh after he got to save
Speaker 2: the other day, I looked at my team to make
Speaker 2: sure that I actually had him in the lineup, because
Speaker 2: it's there's no real reason to start him over like
Speaker 2: I had. It's like between him and like you know,
Speaker 2: Connor Prilep and Kevin Kelly and like Kirby Yates. As
Speaker 2: far as my team goes, that's what I'm choosing between
Speaker 2: as the last guy into the lineup. So Montero, I
Speaker 2: started him this week. I may not start him next week.
Speaker 2: I don't think he has it really a role, so
Speaker 2: it's hard to like really know what to do with him.
Speaker 2: I I think he's pitching really well. I mean, I
Speaker 2: like him. I saw some people speculate that he's the
Speaker 2: new closer, but I don't see why that would be.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but Kenleen Jansen is just not going
Speaker 2: to be the closer for what reason? Why would that be,
Speaker 2: Like unless he's injured, Like if Jansen's injured, then sure, okay,
Speaker 2: but if anything, like right now, it's uh, it's July fifth,
Speaker 2: like you have, like the Tigers have like a little
Speaker 2: under a month to build up Janssen's trade value, Like
Speaker 2: why would they stop using him in the closer role
Speaker 2: right now? Like, if anything, they use him now and
Speaker 2: then trade them and then like you know, in the
Speaker 2: beginning of August, we can try and figure out who's
Speaker 2: gonna get the Tiger saves, and then I would probably
Speaker 2: go fin again. If he's still with the team, I
Speaker 2: think he's probably gonna get traded as well. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know why Jansen wouldn't be the closer. I
Speaker 2: do think Montero has you know, I mean he's somewhat
Speaker 2: he's hard to start in a fantasy league, but I
Speaker 2: mean he has been decent as far as like when
Speaker 2: he is pitching, you know, not really great for strikeouts,
Speaker 2: but he's a good command. He's kept his ratio is
Speaker 2: pretty solid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like for them, you know, he
Speaker 1: has too much use for them just stick him in
Speaker 1: the close the roll because they usually throw him from
Speaker 1: multiple Indians, although he use him as he's been an opener,
Speaker 1: He's done a bunch of different things, so it may
Speaker 1: be just too limit of a role for him.
Speaker 3: But I think you could take a shot.
Speaker 1: On him on a random day in a daily league
Speaker 1: for a save or just some useful Indians.
Speaker 3: I really don't mind that. Why don't you give the
Speaker 3: people some waiver wire names? Great?
Speaker 2: Okay, uh as Merland Valdez he heard about him. Uh
Speaker 2: So he's been hot Garrett Mitchell's been hot, Hobbier Son Joe.
Speaker 2: It's Sanja Si, Sanjaya, Sanjaya, Sanjaya. I believe Sanjaya won
Speaker 2: American Idol one year. Anyway, he's been hot. Josh Bell
Speaker 2: has been hot, Cedric Mullins has been hot going on
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, I think now a Dalton Russian
Speaker 2: who we mentioned earlier. Nathan Church has been hot. Cole
Speaker 2: Young who we mentioned earlier. He's been hot. Kyle Caros
Speaker 2: has been hot, Nick Gonzalez been hot, Mason Wynn Ben hot,
Speaker 2: Owen Casey Ben hot, Caleb Durban hot, Tommy Edmund hot,
Speaker 2: Jake Mangum hot, Josh Lo hot, Michael Conforto also hot.
Speaker 2: There you go, Gray, There you go.
Speaker 1: It sounded like we were reading off a hot list
Speaker 1: there waiting for some some more sexy names come up,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. That's okay, and it's a it's a
Speaker 1: way for wire these things happen. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you know Gray is doing well in the AL. We
Speaker 1: should ask him about his n O only team and maybe.
Speaker 7: He's said first league team looking at the teams and
Speaker 7: Stanos if he's gonna out no, all right, well then
Speaker 7: I'll give the people some streaking options and we'll get
Speaker 7: out of here.
Speaker 1: Gray, Jake Bennet at the White Sox UIs can stee
Speaker 1: you at Miami, Rinoldo Lopez versus the Mets, and at
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Brandon Young versus Kansas City, Jack Flaherty versus Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: Wilbert Urina at Texas, JT. Gin at Detroit, Eric Glawer
Speaker 1: versus Colorado, and Brady Singer versus Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: I feel like half of those names I've never read
Speaker 3: on this show before.
Speaker 1: So it's a good random week for streaming options this week.
Speaker 1: If you have any specific questions, you can find me
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Speaker 3: Beay your lineups be perfect.
Speaker 1: May you move up your standings and get some stuff
Speaker 1: done here before the All Star break.
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you later. Greg.
Speaker 2: All right, lads, pish you