WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.919 It's time to get back down to the business of 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:05.200 the NFL offseason, and of course we like to invite 3 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:07.480 all of our friends back into the show this time 4 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:11.320 of year to talk not only NFL Draft, combine sort 5 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:14.160 of takeaways which just happened this weekend, and then what 6 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.800 I think has been one of the busiest pre tampering 7 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:21.480 period free agent trade weeks that I can remember with 8 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:24.879 some big time names. Well, here he is the guy 9 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:29.120 from Fantasy Points, the owner and everything that's Fantasy Points 10 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:31.440 is Joe Dolan, one of the best in the business. Joe, 11 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:34.719 Welcome back to the program, Bud. How you been doing. 12 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:36.799 Great, guys, Glad to be Glad to be with you. 13 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:41.280 I needed some positive interaction here because I had the 14 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:44.280 plumber out today and he told me that the shower 15 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:48.719 in my master bathroom was installed terribly and now there's 16 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.640 a hole in my ceiling and they probably need to 17 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:54.240 tear out my master my master shower. 18 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:56.799 So going, I. 19 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:58.880 Wish I was. I wish I was an NFL free 20 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:03.079 agent getting the seven figure payday that's not coming anytime soon. 21 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:05.239 I don't think I'm about it a lot. 22 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:09.040 Jerry Joneson's thoughts and prayers and condolences as he's always 23 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:13.120 thinking about it. The shower Joe Dolan, aside from having 24 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.719 some plumbing issues, you can find him at Fantasy points 25 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:18.480 dot Com. Will promote all the work they're doing, including 26 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.959 the uh the the ass index. I believe it is 27 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:26.120 average separation in terms of receivers and much much more. 28 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:27.959 You guys do a hell of a job here we go. 29 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:32.280 Something that is not ass is this free agent market. 30 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.000 There are some big names, especially when it comes to 31 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:38.439 the storylines. Now, the players on the quarterback side may 32 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:40.760 not measure up in terms of what they can do. 33 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.599 I'm gonna start first and foremost with the guy that 34 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:45.560 we all talk about all the time, Aaron Rodgers. Love 35 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:47.760 him or hate him. He's gonna play again this year, 36 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:50.760 we think, and I'm starting to sense that it's gonna 37 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:52.719 be the Giants. Do you agree or do you see 38 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:56.480 another path? I don't know, and I'm. 39 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.799 Gonna tell you why. It's because I think the Giants. 40 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.799 If I were to make a guess right now, I 41 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:08.039 don't think John mara is going to let Joe Shane 42 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:11.800 and Brian Davile put a band aid on this. And 43 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.560 what do they say? A band aid for a bullet wound. 44 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:18.159 I don't think that's I don't think he's gonna let 45 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:20.360 him do that, going to try to go in and 46 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:22.680 do surgery, and that will be I think they're going 47 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:25.360 to trade up with cam Moore, who I think is overwhelmingly, 48 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.599 based on what I'm hearing, what I've seen, who I've 49 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:32.159 talked to, overwhelmingly going to be the number one quarterback 50 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:33.479 off the board. I don't think it's going to be 51 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:35.439 close at this point, and I think that's what the 52 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.800 Giants are going to do now. That begs another question 53 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.759 which we've seen in the past with some other teams, 54 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.759 most most recently the Chicago Bears. Why would you bring 55 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.159 back your head coach if you're just going to draft 56 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:50.919 a quarterback? 57 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:51.800 Thank you. 58 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.000 Put it all together. Put it. It didn't work out 59 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:59.039 great with with with the Panthers, but there at least 60 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:01.879 seem to be on the right rack now. But why 61 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:03.919 would you do that? Why would you bring him back 62 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:05.919 and say because he has to win games this year. 63 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:07.400 If he doesn't win games this year, he's going to 64 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:09.879 be fired regardless of how cam Ward plays. So but 65 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:11.719 I think that's what the Giants are going to do, 66 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:15.520 And honestly, the thing. The thing about with Aaron Rodgers 67 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:21.879 is guys, you know, musical chairs, somebody's left standing at 68 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.400 the end. And when I sort through these spots for 69 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:29.479 Aaron Rodgers, I start to wonder, where actually is he 70 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:33.719 going to go? But like one of the why would 71 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:36.280 the Tennessee Titans sign him? Like why why wouldn't he 72 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.199 do that? One of the Brown's gonna do have the 73 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:42.120 single least popular quarterback room and a history. 74 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:44.960 Of the urt like I want to go. 75 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:50.199 Like, there's no way they're going to do that. So 76 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.599 I just kind of feel like Aaron Rodgers might run 77 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.120 out of places to go and he'll end up on 78 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:56.159 a podcast somewhere. 79 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:59.360 Yeah, And you know, Art Stapleton was on McAfee and 80 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.159 take it with a grin saw, but he was really 81 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:03.759 pushing in the narrative that you know, of the Giants 82 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.840 and Mara wouldn't mind the McAfee appearances and all that, 83 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.159 And of course he said it on McAfee show. So 84 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:11.680 there you have it. I have no idea where Rogers 85 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.520 ends up. I do think he can still play small ball, 86 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:16.800 sort of like you know Alex Smith did at the 87 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:18.600 end of his career, But I don't know if you're 88 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:23.040 getting anything that couldn't be an upgrade over maybe one 89 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:25.399 of these rookies or even some of the other guys available. 90 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:29.040 Speaking which, let's have the Sam Darnold talk. Man. We've 91 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.759 been talking about Sam since the old Panthers days, and certainly, 92 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.240 you know he had some good moments in Carolina towards 93 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:37.480 the end once Matt Ruhle went back to the college 94 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:39.360 world and got the hill out of the way. And 95 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.560 I'll say this, I'm happy for his progress. I'm happy 96 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.399 to see the progression. I am highly skeptical, and it's 97 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:48.120 not just the last two games. Give me you thoughts 98 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.639 on taking him out of that environment in Minnesota, putting 99 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:53.519 him like a Tennessee or maybe a Las Vegas, and 100 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.439 that's can he survive that? 101 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.000 That's a really good question. And I almost wonder if 102 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.360 it's gonna end up being kind of similar for Sam 103 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:05.600 Darnold as it was this year. I think he'll get 104 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.720 a longer term contract than he did obviously he had 105 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:10.680 like the one year deal with the Vikings. I think 106 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:12.800 he's probably earned a longer term and at least a 107 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.399 bigger money contract than that. But I almost wonder if 108 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.680 he ends up in a place like Vegas. Does that 109 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:21.399 preclude Vegas from drafting should Sanders? 110 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:22.920 I don't think so. 111 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:27.199 No, especially as shoulder and we're starting to hear buzz 112 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:29.480 that he might end up falling to the back end 113 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:30.199 of the first round. 114 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.439 I've heard sixth round, Joe, seventh round. It's crazy season. 115 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:38.240 Yeah, that's not going to happen, like maybe back into 116 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.040 the first round, you know. And do you know what 117 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.360 that becomes? That becomes trade back season, So that becomes 118 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:45.959 like a team like Philadelphia, for instance, at thirty two. 119 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.360 The last time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, they 120 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.199 actually traded out of the thirty second pick for a 121 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:54.000 team who traded back into the first round for a quarterback. 122 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:54.279 Yep. 123 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:57.920 Remember that pick was Lamar Jackson. So Baltimore traded back 124 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.680 to number thirty two. And I wonder could that happen 125 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:06.720 again with another team, like, for instance, the Raiders. That 126 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:09.279 means probably the best spot. Like can you imagine if 127 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:11.759 Sam Don? How why would Sam Donald go back to 128 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:12.240 New York? 129 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:13.079 That's the other team. 130 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:15.160 It's not going to be the jet but would it 131 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.079 be the Giants? Like, oh, so, I'm just gonna throw 132 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:20.920 myself right back into the Mike Franz novin grinder again. 133 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:26.839 No, he went to relatively moderate markets Charlotte and Minneapolis, 134 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.040 where he was able to blend in and feel comfortable. 135 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.120 And I think he would tell you that that New 136 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.839 York the lights were bright, the ghosts were bright, and 137 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:35.800 it was time for a change of scenery. And I 138 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.240 think the Carolina experience down the stretch with Steve Wilkes 139 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.519 and Ben mca who really helped his confidence because he 140 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:43.240 won some big games for this team. He was part 141 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.439 of it, and I'm proud of him because I covered him. 142 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:46.959 He's a good dude and I think he'd be a 143 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:50.439 great guy to have alongside of, like a shooter of Sanders. 144 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.199 They would compliment each other very well. Speaking of Sanders 145 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.160 and Ward and the host of others, the combine came 146 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:59.360 and went. It's the underwear Olympics. You learn things about 147 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:02.560 certain players. There is mostly meetings, mostly medicals, and a 148 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:05.240 lot of it is just getting to know who these 149 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:07.600 people are and if they fit your operation. Some great 150 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:11.439 testing numbers, but let's stick to quarterbacks. Where's your board 151 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.319 right now? Is it Cam and Shoudur and then everybody else? 152 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:15.879 Or do you see it differently? 153 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.360 Mine is mine? Personally is Cam and Shouldar as one 154 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:22.879 and two. Those are the two best prospects in my opinion. 155 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.240 Our guy, our draft guy at Fantasy Points, Brent Whitefield 156 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:30.160 love Jackson Dart. He thinks Jackson Dart has first round tape. 157 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:32.839 I know people in the industry who actually think Tyler 158 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.680 Shuck from Louisville obviously we saw them play against Clemson. 159 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:39.560 They believe he has good tape, and I think those 160 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:41.639 are the clear top four for a lot of people. 161 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:43.879 And then, of course the walk part is Jalen Milroe, 162 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:45.480 who can run out of the building, can jump out 163 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.120 of the building, can throw the ball out of the building, 164 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:50.879 but doesn't know where it's going. I think Jalen Milroe's 165 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.800 traits will really appeal to somebody. But guys, I'm not 166 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:56.560 gonna I'm not going to go against what is the 167 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.800 conventional wisdom. I don't think it's a great quarterback class 168 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:05.199 really go Obviouslyers comes with perceived baggage in that he 169 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.839 has a he's a cocky confidence. 170 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:09.680 Where are you at it? Joe just got me, stop 171 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.199 you where where are you with that? Damian Parson and 172 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:14.399 I talked about this yesterday on the show, and he 173 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.040 had some strong thoughts on the whole Combine process, and look, 174 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:20.279 I don't know Shuldar Sanders personally. I just have a 175 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.199 hard time believing that that's a liability. Being the son 176 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:26.360 of Dion Sanders. I think whatever you say doesn't matter. 177 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.600 Can you play? Are you tough on the field. I 178 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.240 thought he was one of the most physically tough players 179 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:34.559 on tape last year. But absolutely that's I think the tape, 180 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:37.840 like the Caleb Williams discussion last year, same sort of 181 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.000 a smear going on. I feel like it's a bit 182 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:40.440 of a smear. 183 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:43.279 I do. I would agree with that. Now I have 184 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:45.440 heard from people and I want I want you to 185 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:49.440 understand this. This is not firsthand that I'm hearing this. 186 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.679 This is second hand, third hand that I'm hearing this 187 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:55.840 noted I have. I haven't talked to one person. I 188 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:58.480 haven't talked to anybody who said they've heard Shador had 189 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:04.799 a good Combine interview. And now that's from that second hand. 190 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.360 I didn't talk to any teams that met with him, 191 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:08.519 so I have to throw that out there. 192 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.639 But I do talk to those that want him to 193 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:13.159 fall down the board. That's what that is. Right. 194 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:16.799 Then there's another thing, that makes me. That makes me 195 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:21.360 wonder though you do have this cloud of Dion hanging there, 196 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:25.399 and I don't even necessarily think, guys that it's Oh, 197 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:28.960 if Shouldar has a bad game, Dion's gonna go on 198 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:33.120 video and flap his gums about how the organization is 199 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.600 letting him down and all this. I think it might 200 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:38.639 be a coach like Brian Davil who's like, well, crap, 201 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.879 if we draft Sugar Sanders and we win five games, 202 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:45.080 my ass is grass and they're replacing me, would be gone. 203 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:49.279 Woam that angle as well? Yeah? 204 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:50.720 I wonder if some coaches are. 205 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.600 Thinking that way, that that's actually a decent angle to 206 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.120 look at this from. That's why it's ever. There's thirty 207 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:00.080 two teams, thirty two relatively unique perspectives, but they're there 208 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.000 is some group think involved. You know that with the 209 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:06.000 draft community and with these front offices. Trey Falco, my man, 210 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:09.679 it's time to dive into your Steelers digest with Joe Dolan. 211 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:11.720 Take it away and let's see how we can fix 212 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.240 this depressing fan base and give them what the hell 213 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:15.840 they want more than ten wins. 214 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.759 Go well, obviously, sitting there at the twenty first pick, 215 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.559 overall in the draft the Steelers. I've heard a lot 216 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.600 of talk about wide receiver, a lot to talk about 217 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:26.360 defensive line. Obviously, the Steelers have a lot of holes 218 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:29.039 that they need to fill. Is there like a sleeper 219 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:31.159 position that you're seeing there at twenty one that maybe 220 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.799 people aren't talking about enough that the Steelers could go 221 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:37.240 after there and then move over like swing into free agency. 222 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.440 Is there maybe a free agency pickup that you could 223 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.159 foresee the Steelers maybe going after that could help alleviate 224 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:44.519 some of those holes so that maybe not everything is 225 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:46.639 on the draft that they have to fix everything. 226 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.279 Right here with the first overall or the first pick 227 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.320 in the twenty five drafts. 228 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:53.799 Perfectly because I'll tell you who my sleeper is for 229 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:55.200 the Pittsburgh Steelers in the draft. 230 00:10:55.759 --> 00:11:01.759 Okays, oh really, I've seen them monked' that's tasty. Mike 231 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.919 Tomlin got to get the relationship. 232 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:08.600 There with right Tomlin. Mike Tomlin's handled big personalities. 233 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:12.519 That's a great observation, Joe, he might be the O. 234 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:15.600 And I know Steelers fans are criticizing and like they're like, well, 235 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.519 he hasn't won a playoff game, and then what does 236 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:19.440 he do? But like I mean, this is the guy 237 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.440 who seemed to be keeping Antonio Brown together. 238 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:25.639 That's what he was. That's why I couldn't that's the 239 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:29.039 trade off. But I didn't win your playoff game reviews. 240 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.240 But I kept you in the playoffs and relevant and 241 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:33.559 you weren't in the tank. And oh yeah, deal with 242 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.399 that nut taste. Go ahead, Joseph. 243 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.279 So I think he's somewhaty. Who who who can follow 244 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.159 the Steelers? Obviously wide receiver at Uka from from at 245 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.559 This class of wide receivers is not nearly as good 246 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:49.639 as last year. There's a lot of different flavors of players, 247 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:51.600 so players you might like, if you like more of 248 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.679 a flock eye, well, Jalen Nole from from Iowa State, 249 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:57.440 who was a huge winner of a combine, could fit there, 250 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.919 maybe in the second round. But another player I want 251 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.919 the highlights who the Steelers. The Steelers did not extend 252 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.840 the the the fifty year option to Najie Harris right 253 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:13.120 for a thousand yards and meet to his first four years. Well, 254 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:14.840 that's exactly what I was gonna say. You want to 255 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.360 talk about a winner from the combine. Amarion Hampton is 256 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.120 six foot nearly two hundred and thirty pounds and he 257 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:24.039 ran sub four or five and if you if you 258 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.759 turn his his tape on, like, I'm not a guy 259 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.159 who makes like I don't consider I'm not mel Kiper. 260 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:33.320 You know, I'm not Todd McShay or Daniel Wheremiah I like. 261 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:35.600 But when a comparison comes to mind for me, I'll 262 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:38.320 throw it out there. O'marion Hampton looks to. 263 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:43.080 Me like the calister, like that's a good one, big. 264 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.240 Fast, powerful And you know, I was actually at the 265 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:49.000 North Carolina game last year when Nate Wiggins ran him 266 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:52.840 down from behind that. Yeah, you look at that and 267 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.279 you're like, oh, man, Hampton, well you didn't break well. 268 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:58.600 Then Nate Wiggins went out ran up four two three, 269 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.200 and then all of a sudden you see that he 270 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:02.879 was one of the few players in the country who 271 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:04.200 could catch a Marion Hampton. 272 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:06.120 Yeah, and yeah, that's what some people like to to 273 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.759 find one little moment with Hampton. And then Hampton came 274 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:11.080 back and ran for like five thousand yards last year 275 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:14.759 and sending at that great combine time Dray Steelers. 276 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.919 I'll tell you guys, I know the running back position 277 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.720 is not well after what Saquan and Derek Henry and 278 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.600 Josh Jacobs did this year. There's a lot of oh 279 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:24.879 what it was O. Marion Hampton's not making it out 280 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.799 of the first round. He will be a first round pick, 281 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:30.559 and that's for our purposes at fantasy football. That's wonderful 282 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.279 because he's gonna go. I think I'm eyeing Pittsburgh at 283 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:37.879 twenty one. You have a Denver at twenty and the 284 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.679 Chargers at twenty two. All could use a running back. 285 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.279 All three would be phenomenal fits for Amaron Hampton. 286 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.519 Mead Heead is back, Sorry nerds, the meat head is back. 287 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:47.000 Now. 288 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.639 This is this goes to show exactly what the combine 289 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:52.000 does when they're putting up all these magical, crazy numbers. 290 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:53.480 And this is what you do for your draft stock. 291 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.960 If em and Warry is there at twenty one, if 292 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:58.919 you're the Steelers, do you take him just based off 293 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:03.000 of just potential ceiling and upside? Obviously you've got Menka 294 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.440 Fitzpatrick there, but I mean he's not getting any younger. 295 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:07.440 He didn't produce as much last year as he has 296 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.559 in years past. That is an eventual need for the Steelers. 297 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:11.720 Would you take an em and Worry? 298 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:12.559 Yeah? 299 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.039 Em and war is going to be interesting because the 300 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:19.000 safety is talked about in ways kind of like the 301 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.000 running back position. Oh, you know, you could find them 302 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.799 on Day two and Day three. But then when you 303 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:27.039 take a look at this draft class in general, which 304 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:30.720 is a lot less top heavy yep, and you see 305 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.159 a guy like em and Wory who's just as freakish 306 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:39.039 athletic ability. You know, I think you don't look at needs. 307 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:42.279 You're like, all right, we're thinking about this the wrong way. 308 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:45.919 We don't need a hole that this guy fits in 309 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:47.960 because he fits in all of them. So he can 310 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.720 play a little linebacker, he can play a little safety, 311 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.159 he can move all around the formation. He's just one 312 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:55.679 of those guys where I could see a team like 313 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:57.879 the Steelers who are like, all right, we don't have 314 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.919 huge holes. We have deficiencies, but we don't have huge holes. 315 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:04.879 But we're not going to take a B prospect over 316 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:08.240 an A prospect just because we have a we have 317 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:12.039 a need on the offensive line or whatever. I can 318 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.080 see any team drafting him just like as like, hey, 319 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.039 we'll find a spot for you. You just play your game. 320 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:21.000 Yeah. And then there's certain guys that we evaluate this 321 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.799 stuff and we have collective opinions and then we have 322 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:27.360 different opinions on difference makers, elevators, guys that you know, 323 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:29.320 like an m and Moory who could be like a 324 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:32.440 Kyle Hamilton, perhaps not in size and frame, but just 325 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.840 in you know, ability to control the game and make 326 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:38.440 an impact. And that's the most important thing I think 327 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:40.840 for a lot of these teams is okay position, Yeah, 328 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:43.240 maybe unless it gets like Tyler Warren is a great example. 329 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:45.799 The things you can do with that guy potentially could 330 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:49.320 change everything about the future of your team, or maybe 331 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:52.639 it doesn't work out, but the stats and the tape 332 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.039 are pretty you know, damning when it comes to Tyler Warren, 333 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.279 quickly before we let you go the tight end group, 334 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:00.720 it's a deep class war. Do you think he goes 335 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.039 top ten? Do you think a team like the Panthers 336 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.360 would look there? Maybe they're just thinking best defensive tackle 337 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:07.720 because they've got to stop the run. 338 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:12.039 Yeah, I think the thing for Carolina guys, and I'm 339 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:16.440 sure you've discussed this plenty. I feel like Dave Canalis 340 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:20.480 and the entire organization would would would strap a jet 341 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:24.480 pack to their backs and fire fire up to the podium. 342 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:28.720 Miss Mason Graham's there. Yes, Yeah, I feel like, that's 343 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:30.799 that's the that's the dream guy. I'm sure you talked 344 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:35.120 about Ted McMillan, But here's the thing with Tyler for Warren, 345 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:42.120 the Jacks suddenly very interesting because Kirk to the Texans 346 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:44.759 today and they just cut Evan Ingram. 347 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.440 Oh wow, that just came down. Ingram was a high 348 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:53.279 volume player for them. So that, yeah, there you go, Jack. 349 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.960 Could they be McMillan spot as well? So warren't believe me. 350 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:58.919 I'm a Penn State alum, So I know what Kyle 351 00:16:59.000 --> 00:16:59.480 Warren do. 352 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:00.320 I did it. 353 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:05.200 He's a jack of all trades. And I feel like, 354 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:08.759 let's put it this way, guys, He's a football player. 355 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.039 And they're gonna be coaches who are just sitting there 356 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:13.920 watching their tape and they're they're not even gonna be 357 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.400 making words when they're watching the tape. It's just gonna 358 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:22.559 be like, yeah, like you're just like grunting at Tyler 359 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:23.559 Larren and what he's doing. 360 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:25.559 Like I can hear Dan right now. 361 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.079 There's a fifteen minute video on YouTube of every grunt 362 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.119 from Home Improvement that scouts watching Tyler Warren. 363 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:38.160 That is perfect. Just in a dark room, oh, in 364 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.640 this depressing dark no windows now it's three in the 365 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:43.880 afternoon and everybody's enjoying their life. And you got an 366 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:44.559 area scout. 367 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.640 Oh yeah, he's just he's just absolutely just making the 368 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.599 most inhumane noises. Their guys sound the guy sounds like 369 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.160 a Neanderthal. But now, I mean the dancers, I could see, 370 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:58.880 you know, you want to Panthers are in a tough 371 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:02.599 spot because, like I think, I talked to you guys 372 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:07.039 last year about how what I'm feeling at age thirty 373 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.240 three can't be your best offensive player, and then he 374 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:14.079 finally did it again. I think I thinking credit to 375 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:16.480 be covered a lot for the improvements that he made, 376 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.400 and he was on to me. Schuba Hubbard was kind 377 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.200 of the heart beat of that Panther offense. But then 378 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:24.720 you know, you still look at Adam feeling and he 379 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:26.799 could still play, and he very clearly has a good 380 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.920 relationship with Bryce Young. But you have to plan for 381 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:32.400 the future, and I thought Leguet had a nice rookie season. 382 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:35.079 I don't know if you could say, well, he's are 383 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:36.160 number one locked. 384 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:36.920 In for the rest there time. 385 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.640 I don't think you can do that. So I think 386 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:42.440 a Tech McMillan or a Tyler Warren would make sense 387 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:46.720 for the Panthers, even if Mason Graham fits their most 388 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:48.759 immediate knee. Now, let me tell you, if all three 389 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:50.880 of those players are available for the Panthers, I take 390 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:51.440 Mason Grant. 391 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:54.519 I would too, And I'm question. I'm under the assumption 392 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:56.880 that that Graham is gone by eight. But and I 393 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:59.599 don't think Carolina after what happened a couple of years ago, 394 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.680 ever trade up ever again for the next twenty years. 395 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:05.920 It's like a charter that somebody put down to Temper's 396 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.240 desk and said, no more, no more trading up. We 397 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:11.839 trade back from that on Joe Dolan, Look, Joe Dolan, 398 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:13.559 we got to hit We got to hit it. Man 399 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:16.599 the owner and operator of Fantasy Points dot Com and 400 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.759 has done such a great job building that wonderful publication up. 401 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:22.599