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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Marvel Alliance Podcast, where we cover anything

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<v Speaker 1>and everything to do with the Marvel Universe, from the comics, TV,

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<v Speaker 1>the movies. We go from Earth six one six to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mojo Verse to the TVA in order to bring

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<v Speaker 1>the Marvel Universe right to you. I'm the nerd with

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth David. I'm Travis Alliance u S Volume three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and three, and as you guys will notice, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a special guest hostsay filling in while Chris is

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<v Speaker 1>out of town. Travis, how are you doing and things?

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<v Speaker 2>For filling in, I'm doing well. I'm going on holiday

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<v Speaker 2>after today.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to thank you to It first came.

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<v Speaker 2>Around the schedule to allow me to do this because

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<v Speaker 2>they had a surprise. They're having a surprise verst they

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<v Speaker 2>party thousand filers, So we're going out to day early.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the greatest thing in terms of I'm not really

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<v Speaker 2>excited for four hour drive, but we got such a

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<v Speaker 2>great episode today that I could not be more happy

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<v Speaker 2>that we get to talk because it's like I told

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<v Speaker 2>you before we start talking. In my opinion, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the single greatest episode of this and the previous show

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<v Speaker 2>one episode. This is the best of one episode that

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen for this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was such an amazing episode. I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>very up and down a rough week. As we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking offline, I had a death of a family member

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to day, literally just hours ago, So I've

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<v Speaker 1>been dealing with with that all week. He has been

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<v Speaker 1>sicking in the hospital all week, and so we knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was coming, and so to have this as a

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<v Speaker 1>breadth of fresh air. This is one thing about these

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<v Speaker 1>various different mediums is that it allows us to take

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<v Speaker 1>that break from reality, get a reprieve of what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and just sit back and enjoy. And what a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of an episode to enjoy, with.

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<v Speaker 2>So many Easter eggs, so many crazy things like this. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>like I told you, I'm so glad we get talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this episode after all the stuff you've had to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with in the past, like twenty four hours especially,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I can't wait to get into it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you take away with all the paperwork before

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<v Speaker 2>we get started.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yep, So before we get into this amazing episode,

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<v Speaker 1>can watch this all day. The Marvel Alliance ince you rewatch,

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<v Speaker 1>including all twenty four movies from the Infinity Saga. We

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<v Speaker 1>dropped Cape Expectations, the Avengers, Earth's Mightiest Heroes rewatch and

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<v Speaker 1>first watch. So every month we will give our thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on five episodes of Earth's Mightiest Heroes. The first episode

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<v Speaker 1>just dropped last week and it was a great run

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<v Speaker 1>for a very fun show. And Travis, I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you have seen that show as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've reviewed it, like I want to say, like

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a half, two years ago in Animation Nation,

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<v Speaker 2>I reviewed it and in my humble opinion, is the

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<v Speaker 2>best portrayal of Hulle. That is, they're an animation maybe

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<v Speaker 2>ever in whole both sides in that way. Too soon

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<v Speaker 2>you should have died for Avengers assembles to rotten the

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<v Speaker 2>ashes and you guys are in for a great time

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<v Speaker 2>because you guys, you picked a great show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. So for me it's a rewatch. For Chris it's

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<v Speaker 1>a first watch and he's doing it along with his

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Barnes, the man who everyone thought for the longest

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<v Speaker 1>time would be the character who stayed dead in comics,

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<v Speaker 1>ended up coming back and has had a monumental run.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever since I noticed somebody in the third cover there

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about it had a little appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeh, yes it did. So that being said, Episode four,

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<v Speaker 1>The Rise of Apocalypse, Part two, what are your high

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, this was pretty outstanding everybody involved in

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<v Speaker 2>this that there's a little pat on the back from

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<v Speaker 2>the writers to the animators to the voice actors because

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<v Speaker 2>everything looked amazing, sounded amazing, was well written. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>discussion that's had between four or five of the characters

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<v Speaker 2>at one point for a minute or two, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so cool. It's like five different perspectives on what they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing out of five different like ones that have like lost,

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<v Speaker 2>ones that have like can want to do more, ones

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<v Speaker 2>out of religion, ones that have it's just science and

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<v Speaker 2>yeah it's pretty and one that have previous experience it's

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<v Speaker 3>And I really enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was only like a minute conversation and you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing so much in this thirty minutes. Also, how

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<v Speaker 2>awesome would have been growing up if we actually got

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<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes of cartoon time When it's locked after thirty

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<v Speaker 3>Normally used to get with the ads, like thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything perfect, and I didn't know what was happening because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look at the time, and I like didn't

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh when this is gonna end. It was

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<v Speaker 2>such a great episode and I can't wait. I'm interested

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<v Speaker 2>to hear your thoughts and yeah, I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 2>get into yah.

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<v Speaker 3>Episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautifully written, episode, amazing. Just every character got a moment

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<v Speaker 1>to shine within themselves and this was a real big

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the show, for me watching the original

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<v Speaker 1>X Men as a kid, plus being a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>this current show. There were so many Easter eggs and callbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>so many Easter eggs and callbacks that you just got

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<v Speaker 1>to really enjoy and take in this. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was great from start to fit. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>they really made full use of this entire episode.

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<v Speaker 2>have one complaint now looking back, I hope they don't

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<v Speaker 2>do this as much going forward. But they revealed a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things in the intro that like showed.

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<v Speaker 3>Up like beasts with the ship and knowing the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>They showed that that you showed that in the intro,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that makes me think a certain character is

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<v Speaker 2>certain character of returns. We'll get into that and later on,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is that they showed a part from the

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<v Speaker 2>previous season when someone was using their mind powers on

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<v Speaker 2>another character, and yeah, I feel like we're gonna that's

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said so so many callbacks to things that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened, not only in X Men ninety seven but

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<v Speaker 1>in the original X Men. So what that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead get into spoiler territory. Let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>this in X Men ninety seven season two, episode four,

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<v Speaker 1>Rise of the Apocalypse Part two, and this was written

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<v Speaker 1>two men who wrote Rise of Apocalypse Part one, which

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with Boa Marvel aside, this is against some beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful writing all throughout.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, David, if you want listeners a good thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do, if even if you haven't. If you've already

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<v Speaker 2>watched this episode, go back and watch the four part

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<v Speaker 2>episodes from X Men ninety seven Season four Beyond Good

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<v Speaker 2>and Evil Part one, two, three, and four, because there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of things that come back to play

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<v Speaker 2>in this episode from those four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's another episode as well, Obsession, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>good watch to get into this as well, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it. Between Obsession and Bianca Nivil you will also

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<v Speaker 1>see some old meme worthy X Men stuff from original things.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll know where certain memes come from. So getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes once again, we get a new opening combining

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<v Speaker 1>remade footage from the original X Men, So we get

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<v Speaker 1>remade footage of Bishop falling through time. We get remade

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<v Speaker 1>footage of Charles and Magneto teaming up when they were

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<v Speaker 1>younger to show off their powers the first time they meet.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we also get just like new footage as well

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<v Speaker 1>of everyone else. The only people featured in this opening

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<v Speaker 1>are the people from the team that is in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>We get also a view of Gambit and Rogue in

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<v Speaker 1>this opening, so there's a lot of hints at where

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is and where this is going. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was nice with Charles doing the opening of it, the

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<v Speaker 1>doing the last time on X Men before going into this,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was really cool. They are they are really

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<v Speaker 1>maximizing these openings. And if you are hitting the skip

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<v Speaker 1>opening button on this show, you are doing yourself one

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a disservice.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if the only maybe the only backdrop is

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, So maybe that is why you would

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<v Speaker 2>avoid it. But that's what a great sign has stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in your head all day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we probably open on the aftermath of the

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<v Speaker 1>battle from the last episode. Magneto has put a shield

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the X Men and only the X Men,

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<v Speaker 1>He offers them a chance to explain their lies, but

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and here Magneto even reflects that I could only

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So Bishop says that they need to return to

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to reverse it. And Beast, being the

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<v Speaker 2>to the animeters because they do so much with the

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<v Speaker 2>from Rogue's eyes that the only reason she mightts to

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<v Speaker 2>Gambit back, and that guts Magneto, but he still goes

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<v Speaker 2>look at you, and they show it all with looks

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<v Speaker 3>To the animators for this because this is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>When she mentions getting back things that were lost and

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<v Speaker 1>they cut to Magneto and the again animated show. But

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<v Speaker 1>the guilt that is drawn on his face in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell like, all right, And that's when Magneto

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<v Speaker 1>he destroys Bishop's device, leaving them stuck where they're at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, him still thinking that he can change Evanser, which

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is my probably biggest issue with their

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<v Speaker 3>But yet no, you think you can change him in

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<v Speaker 3>the past like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it made knows him for me, that the decision

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<v Speaker 2>to go down that road. And yet it definitely can

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<v Speaker 2>be only because Magneto's feel but so much guilt that

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Magneto is not the best with his plans and

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<v Speaker 1>how they they turn out.

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<v Speaker 3>So especially like to well here.

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<v Speaker 1>So at that point, Charles and You're they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a better future, gives him a very a very happy

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<v Speaker 1>view of the future, a very positive view. He's telling

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<v Speaker 1>He's talking about the brighter future. He's being very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fight through, the uh, the bigotry that exists now, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. He's just skipping past that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's talking about half a dozen times they fight Apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, leaving out that that is one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>enemies of the X Man. Just none of that is there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just only going against you know, here's the sunshine

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<v Speaker 1>and rainbows. So Charles suggests that they use the temple

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<v Speaker 1>of cosmic power that is calling out to Neure in

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<v Speaker 1>order to reach this new beginning that Charles is hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that they can get to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the last episode when Magneo says, like, they

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<v Speaker 1>So Charles begins to access nurse thoughts and get visions

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<v Speaker 1>of his upbringing, you know, him being ripped away from

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<v Speaker 1>to being sold into slavery, and the person who sell

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<v Speaker 1>him into slavery is saying, you know, ignore the way

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<v Speaker 1>eyes that promise you he's strong. And we then see

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<v Speaker 1>the way he looks and the way he is. But

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<v Speaker 1>then we see him like growing from being this child

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<v Speaker 1>to being the strongest slave. And then this is where

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<v Speaker 1>as we see him being a strong slave and he's

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<v Speaker 1>moving statues and erecting statues all on his own, just

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<v Speaker 1>him pulling on a rope and we see lined up

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<v Speaker 1>statues of Kanchu, so moonnight fans will recognize. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>had the shape of the beak and everything had the

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<v Speaker 1>crescent in there that there was no mistaking that these

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<v Speaker 1>we see him become the strongest slave, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>his power, he's still not accepted as one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>And in his vision as we see or laying there,

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<v Speaker 1>a voice reaches out that says, come be eternal. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you had closed captions on, it kind of spoils

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<v Speaker 1>who this is. But we will get to who it

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit later. But if you had close

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<v Speaker 1>captains on his spoils it, or you might have picked

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<v Speaker 1>up on the way that the stars lit up in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky who it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, they didn't give away who it was to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew what group of people it was, but

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know which one specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>No on Disney Plus the second time I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>with the captions on, it literally says the name on

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<v Speaker 1>there is who is speaking And I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good thing, I've already seen this episode. Or that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a huge spoiler to me. So at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles knows the temple is in a hidden location, Nor

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<v Speaker 1>knows that it is in a place that's known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Gardner's Gaze, and Nor will use the stars to

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<v Speaker 1>guide them to that, and at this point, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they they agreed to go and travel together. The team

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<v Speaker 1>traverses to the Gays. As they walk under the constellation

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<v Speaker 1>the stars again, the six major star from this vision

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<v Speaker 1>light up, and the temple reveals itself. The group decides

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<v Speaker 1>to camp out for the night. As Rogue is sitting

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<v Speaker 1>by the fire and Nora comes up to her to

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation about love. Rogue talks about love and

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<v Speaker 1>how important it is and her loss of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>Nurse says that he's never experienced it. To him, love

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<v Speaker 1>is pain being ripped away from his mother, being sold

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<v Speaker 1>into slavery. That's all he knows is pain and their closeness.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Kind of gives a callback to an episode

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<v Speaker 1>from the original series called The Cure. That's when Rogue

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<v Speaker 1>and so she goes to Apocalypse who is going to

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<v Speaker 1>after some back and forth and realizing, you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>loves who she is and all this other stuff, she

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<v Speaker 1>and turns him into Archangel instead.

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<v Speaker 3>One. Two things.

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<v Speaker 2>One was I want to make give them special shadow,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is the attention to detail that I love

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<v Speaker 2>from this show and the animators. Four of the people

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<v Speaker 2>are on horses, two of the bigger people that would

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<v Speaker 2>walk up Beasts and Advancer, Like that's just extra level

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<v Speaker 2>attention to detail that not many people would notice that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I absolutely loved that. I actually smirked my seap

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<v Speaker 2>because camel's prefer much heavier people and heavier loads, and

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I did appreciate that. And I love the

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<v Speaker 2>whole conversation with Rode here. This backs up what Rogue

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<v Speaker 2>with Magneto's playing and such. So yeah, I really love

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<v Speaker 2>this scene as well, because this whole episode was firing

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<v Speaker 2>on all cylinders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, it's again very much attention to detail. The

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<v Speaker 1>writers and directors and the showrunner of this is that

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<v Speaker 1>they're just wanted. So at this point we see Rama

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<v Speaker 1>Tut who begins to use his own possibly stolen knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what we know in the comics of Rama Tut and

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<v Speaker 1>who he is possibly stolen version of Cerebro, to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to Charles. He offers to tell him the secrets

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<v Speaker 1>of the temple that he knows he's looking for. Charles

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<v Speaker 1>asks who he is, and that's when we get the

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<v Speaker 1>a many name Nathaniel, Victor, and even King. So in

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<v Speaker 1>the comic books, Nathaniel Richards in the future, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>steals some technology and starts to traverse through the past

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<v Speaker 1>and present, making himself a god in some times, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know he is Rama Tut in one era, he's

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<v Speaker 1>king in another. Are This is how he starts becoming

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<v Speaker 1>King the conqueror, of stealing various things and traveling through time,

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<v Speaker 1>the saying that I was once called Victor. There is

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<v Speaker 1>an alternate timeline where a version of Victor von Doom

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<v Speaker 1>becomes king. So it's just all these these cool little

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<v Speaker 1>things when he says that. But yes, we get our

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<v Speaker 1>our definitive that Rama Tut is King, the conquer.

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<v Speaker 2>I also loved the little cerebral type thing he was wearing, like,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a pretty cool. It looks like his version

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<v Speaker 2>of cerebro.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. Yeah, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Us so and again in the comic books, Nathania Richards

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He steals technology which allows him to travel to the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and this could easily be explained as in one of

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<v Speaker 1>his various time heist he went and stole from somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>a version of cerebro because it looks just like it

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<v Speaker 1>other than the symbol on the helmet.

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<v Speaker 2>You just stole the design too, right, And then he yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>used it for himself, So yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So King explains that he is in the Access of

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<v Speaker 1>Time again this go back and why that four part

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<v Speaker 1>the Access of Time where Apocalypse makes his home base.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles asks why he came to this time to enslaved

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<v Speaker 1>nouris people. King admits that he came to take the

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<v Speaker 1>celestial power and use it to conquer. King tells Charles

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<v Speaker 1>that he cannot stop Apocalypse, never has been able to

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<v Speaker 1>stop him, and never will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be, and it might be because it's a causal loop

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<v Speaker 2>between what they're doing and like it might be a

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<v Speaker 2>fixed point here where he and it definitely is when

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<v Speaker 2>we get into it a little bit later of why

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it is just it's a very good episode here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so before we get into the next part of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode, let's go ahead and take our first commercial break. Listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>So at this point, the team heads inside the temple.

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<v Speaker 1>The group sees the head of Isan, the searcher, who, again,

431
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<v Speaker 1>if you had captions on earlier, it was well that

432
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<v Speaker 1>that's the voice that you heard. He is a celestial

433
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<v Speaker 1>and he is right in the middle of this temple

434
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<v Speaker 1>that we've gone into. The group says.

435
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<v Speaker 2>That the screens in the galaxy too, right, he was

436
00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:31.680
<v Speaker 2>wipe out a whole planet, right, Yep.

437
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<v Speaker 1>He's featured in the Gardens of the Galaxy. I think

438
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<v Speaker 1>he was one of the people who is featured in

439
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>that celestial episode of what if? Uh So, like he's

440
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>made his round. So those who are wondering, you know,

441
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<v Speaker 1>when the Eternals were coming back. There.

442
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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

443
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<v Speaker 1>You got a little bit of an Eternals action.

444
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<v Speaker 3>And they're never mentioned in the previous series.

445
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<v Speaker 2>They mentioned the Celestials once in the ship episode and

446
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<v Speaker 2>it's just one one time, not explained anything about it,

447
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:01.279
<v Speaker 2>that's all.

448
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is, you know, the Celestials is very big

449
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:09.839
<v Speaker 1>and integral to Apocalypse getting the power that he is

450
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>at now, and we'll get to that a little bit later,

451
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<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad that they brought it into this episode

452
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<v Speaker 1>to really expound on that. So the group decides that

453
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<v Speaker 1>they need to split up in order to locate the

454
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<v Speaker 1>source of the power. Beast group, which is him. Rogue

455
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<v Speaker 1>McNeil and Nightcrawler began to search and they realize they've

456
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<v Speaker 1>been here before again callbacks to the previous series in

457
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<v Speaker 1>previous episodes, and they realized that this is ship, the

458
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<v Speaker 1>all powerful vessel that Apocalypse uses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Was part of me thought that maybe the connection that

461
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<v Speaker 2>that Beast had with the ship in the previous episodes

462
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<v Speaker 2>would come back here, but no, no, no, it was

463
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<v Speaker 2>in the previous time. So the Beast is going back

464
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<v Speaker 2>in time before he met the ship, so the ship

465
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<v Speaker 2>would not have the relationship that they had with him,

466
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I was like, wait.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, Tom Trumpt so weird. One person has the memories,

468
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>another person doesn't. It's it's very uh if you're a

469
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 1>fan of Doctor Who, you get it very timey. Whymy

470
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff going on here? The other group, which is Nord,

471
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<v Speaker 1>Charles and Bishop. Nord says that he's going to go

472
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<v Speaker 1>with Charles, and Bishops is like, yeah, no, I'm sticking

473
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<v Speaker 1>with you guys. And we have to remember that in

474
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<v Speaker 1>the timeline that Bishop originally comes from, with all the

475
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<v Speaker 1>mutants enslaved, he has seen the decimation of Apocalypse firsthand.

476
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<v Speaker 1>So even though this is you know, pre apocalypse that

477
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<v Speaker 1>he knows, he still does not trust his person. So

478
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<v Speaker 1>he's like, no, I'm going with that group.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Well not really, it doesn't make any.

480
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<v Speaker 1>They walk into a room and there are our paintings

481
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:08.759
<v Speaker 1>everywhere that show Apocalypses rise to power. You know, there's

482
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>mirrors that're showing Insomonnure as he is now. They're showing

483
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Apocalypse on the throne. They're showing another one with Apocalypse

484
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>running by death, and you see like even a glimpse

485
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>right now of the current X Men who were there

486
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>in the past, looking up to as Apocalypse is making

487
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 1>his ascension, and Charles has kind of an oh shit

488
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>moment as he looks around, like, yeah, we just brought

489
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>him to the place that's going to allow him to

490
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 1>become what we fear the most. The room lights up

491
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 1>and you see kind of the celestial power running through it,

492
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 1>and at that point Ner is pissed. He realizes that

493
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Charles was trying to keep him from his destiny, and

494
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>he just goes on a full out assault.

495
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he just just snaps and I do I do

496
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>love was like, Magnus, you need to get in here immediately,

497
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 2>like things, No, this is not good.

498
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, he.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Picks up Charles by the neck, drops them he like

500
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<v Speaker 2>I said a minute ago. Bishop does nothing. He just

501
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>back in like he's like it's whole holding against some

502
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>undercard guy. Yeah, just flind And yeah I did, but

503
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I did really love it. And yeah he's going up

504
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>to I love how the mouth opens up and it

505
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 2>looks like Apocalypse from our like the present time, and.

506
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was just such a nice touch. As he

507
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:33.880
<v Speaker 3>walks up there. But he doesn't get there right away,

508
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 3>does he, David?

509
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, So after getting their asses worked by ther

510
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 1>and he's walking up there. You know, the rest of

511
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the X Men decide to try and join in, and

512
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 1>again it's it is. It is not going too well.

513
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Nightcrawler tries to attacking him. He grabs Nightcrawler by the

514
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 1>wrist and just rag dolls him. Uh. Rogue is catching

515
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 1>punches to the guts like everyone at this point is

516
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 1>catching hands from Nerd. He is just so enraged and

517
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 1>trying to reach out to his destiny that is calling

518
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to him.

519
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Rogue is one punch at the start when he's not

520
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 2>expecting it. And remember the listeners, Rogue has the power

521
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:20.079
<v Speaker 2>of Captain Marble in this this universe and sends them

522
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>flying and it literally takes him five seconds max. He

523
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>gets up and he bodies Magneto like I've never seen

524
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>anybody bag the Magneto in this show before and just

525
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:36.000
<v Speaker 2>tosses him along Saint thing with Bishop and then Nightcrawler

526
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 2>transports him away and like David said, he breaks Nightcrawler's

527
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 2>iron and then he just Rogue comes at him and

528
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 2>he just stops Rogue and he just walks up to

529
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>think there's nobody stop from that.

530
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, yeah, here's your bath come out yep.

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00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.319
<v Speaker 1>So this point Nor becomes fully grabbed it with the

532
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 1>celestial technology and becomes the Apocalypse that we know now.

533
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, he does speak about thing that he said before,

534
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>which was, I am the rocks of the eternal shore

535
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 2>crass against me and be broken. So he said that

536
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 2>in his first ever appearance in X Men, the anime series,

537
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and this is what.

538
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Said to him.

539
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.799
<v Speaker 2>When he's getting his ultimate purpose, which is essentially just

540
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 2>like a celestial he causes destruction on a universal scale.

541
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

542
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 1>So they go to fight a little bit more, and

543
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>again they are just getting battered. Magneto is injured at

544
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.519
<v Speaker 1>this point and seals a wound with metal and so

545
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>then the team decides, you know, like, hey, maybe we

546
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>need to go back to our timeline. Should we stay,

547
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>should we fight? And once again Magneto decides that he's

548
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 1>making the choice for them. He uses his powers to

549
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>activate their risk guntlets and he goes to send everyone back,

550
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 1>except right as he's doing this Apocalypse attack. So Magneto

551
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and Charles get knocked back and they are still there

552
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:06.759
<v Speaker 1>as Apocalypse continues to just go all out beating them down.

553
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, Charles isn't much help in this because, as

554
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 2>with Dixen series, when he uses his mind powers in

555
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.519
<v Speaker 2>his Apocalypse, it kind of causes him go like, oh,

556
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I follow that. So yeah, this happens a couple of

557
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>times to him. This Magneto puts up a good fight.

558
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>But when you see to look on Magneto's face when

559
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Apocalypse rises and gets giant, it's pure to He's like,

560
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 2>oh she.

561
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 1>He's like, we are in trouble. Apocalypse you know, talks

562
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>about the attack on his people and the attack on

563
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>his friends, and so he says that Ramatat is going

564
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:40.559
<v Speaker 1>to be the first one to fill his wrath and

565
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>order ship to attack Ramatat. Kang, seeing this happening, realizes

566
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>his plan isn't going to come together, so he decided

567
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>that he's going to search for another timeline, leaving Candre

568
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 1>there because, as he puts it, she still has a

569
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 1>destiny with Apocalypse. He tells her that the only thing

570
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that can alan Chimp is something external, which is who

571
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Cantra eventually becomes as an immortal meatant known as the External.

572
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 2>She's the one that shows up to the guild right

573
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>when they put gifts to her.

574
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay, yeah, so and then we get a very

575
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:23.799
<v Speaker 1>cool scene with ramast when he gets into a ship

576
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and he dons the King the Conqueror helmet, the green

577
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 1>and purple, like like the old school the look that

578
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 1>we know, and he turns with this grin right before

579
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 1>he blasts off, and it's just like, oh yeah, that

580
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that that is a absolute cool moment.

581
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Honestly that I had that thought, and a second thought

582
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 2>was like, why the hell didn't you do something like

583
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 2>this for Quantumania where you could have had him.

584
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Lose, but could have had him piece out too like this,

585
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 3>That would have.

586
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Been awesome and instead no, Okay, So that was like

587
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>second or third that I had, but this was so good.

588
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.240
<v Speaker 3>He just pieces out and leaves her and she is

589
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>not happy. I love it. Yep.

590
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>So this Apocalypse is continuing to fight against Charles Magneto,

591
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, he he's got some lines, like he's

592
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 1>got Charles down. And he tells Charles that he would

593
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 1>make him a horseman if not for his broken spine. Yeah,

594
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>where his lack a spine, And I'm just like, ooh,

595
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that is like that's a low blow at this point.

596
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>And so with ship going to attack where Ramatut was

597
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>is now created a black hole that is about to

598
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>destroy everything. Magneto is injured, but he's seeing this black

599
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 1>hole is destroying the city. He decides to go and

600
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>stop it and attempting to bind the black hole with metal.

601
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Charles doesn't think it will work and thinks that Magneto

602
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 1>will die in the process, but Magneto ends up being

603
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>able to stop it. There's a big explosion. Magneto was

604
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>falling back down to the sand, but he is still

605
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 1>alive and really like, oh wow, Magneto, he pulled out

606
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>another one. Cool, cool cool. Charles is laying on the

607
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>ground in the sand. He goes to reach out. He's

608
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>calling for Magneto, and at that point we see with

609
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Magneto on the ground the sand in the dunes, out

610
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 1>of the shadows of Pierce, Apocalypse and he just grabs

611
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Magneto by the head, palming him like a basketball, just

612
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, and you know at this point both men

613
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 1>know what is about to happen, you know, they are

614
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Charles is trying to apologize to Magneto. Magneto is trying

615
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>out for Charles, and then we see Apocalypse just you know,

616
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>turn his hand into a blaster and put it straight

617
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to Magneto's back and again another cool way that they

618
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 1>use eyes in this show. We see this from the reflection,

619
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 1>the periodic reflection in Charles's eyes as Apocalypse just blast

620
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 1>away Magneto from the back, killing him and Charles is

621
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>left there as he throws Magneto's helmet down on the

622
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 1>ground and it just rolls straight to Charles. He walks

623
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.559
<v Speaker 1>over to Charles and says, you know that there's no

624
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>joy in killing an aunt when you're a god and

625
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 1>just steps out.

626
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Him, calling back what Magneto said to him in the

627
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.639
<v Speaker 2>first episode we saw of him in this season. And

628
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen Charles so mad because before he steps

629
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 2>over him, and as he's walking to him, Charles is

630
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>trash talking him, saying like his mother maybe his mother

631
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.679
<v Speaker 2>knew that he was this monster, so she gave him up.

632
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 2>She was smart and too bad he didn't die in

633
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 2>the desert. And I'm like, oh my god, Charles, like

634
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.679
<v Speaker 2>this is not that mutants and humans can leave in harmony.

635
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>This is like, this is me the most angry I've

636
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>ever seen him in this entire show.

637
00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So at that point he steps over Charles, he

638
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 1>goes on about his way and leaves Charles just laying

639
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 1>there crying over Magneto's helmet, and he lies there for

640
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a while until Bishop pops back and comes for Charles,

641
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and Charles says out aloud, he goes, you know, he

642
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>has realization that they are never going to be able

643
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to stop Apocalypse.

644
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said what Rabataz said was right. We never

645
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 2>stop him ever.

646
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that is how the show technically ends. But

647
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 1>this this episode, we have got a post credit scene,

648
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:46.599
<v Speaker 1>and again we we have had an episode full of callbacks.

649
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 1>This post credit scene is a callback in and of itself.

650
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>So we got a callback to an episode of the

651
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>original X Men called Old Soldiers, which was a team

652
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>up episode between Wolverine before he's got his Adamantium and

653
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Captain America. And like, if you go back and watch

654
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>this episode, they've got some funny play about them, including

655
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Wolverine asks them, you know, about why he's going on

656
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 1>the secret missions were in this big red, white, and

657
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>blue and how he'd never be caught dead in it

658
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and he bets it, itches and everything else.

659
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 2>So rough animation in that episode as well, that you're

660
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>talking about.

661
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So now we see Wolverine on a rooftop. He

662
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>is in his old Canadian spywear that he wore in

663
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the episode Old Soldiers. Uh so it's it's literally just

664
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>all black garb in a black skull cap that no

665
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>one's gonna recognize this five foot minutes with hair, but hey,

666
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it works for him being a spy. He meets with Cap,

667
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>who says it's been a long time, you know, fifty

668
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 1>years to be exact, since their team up. Black Widow

669
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>joins them on the roof, so we get a nice

670
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 1>little moment between them. Cap hans Wolverine a file labeled

671
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>webin X and tells him that he can't go after

672
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>them alone. Logan says, don't worry, he's got a crew

673
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>and he's getting the band back together. The next episode

674
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 1>is titled WEBINX Lies in DVDs, and in the original

675
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>series there was an episode called webinx Lies and Videotapes

676
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>where Wolverine went back to WEBINX and he meets up

677
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 1>with Sabertooth, Maverick and Silver Fox. So this what I'm wondering.

678
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>If that's the band that he's getting back together.

679
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I think so, And I've heard I've seen some people

680
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.280
<v Speaker 2>online complain like I don't want this after that episode.

681
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You need episodes after these big episodes where people don't

682
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.679
<v Speaker 2>like big momentum monumental characters. Did you need a few

683
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 2>episodes to breathe after that? So yeah, I'm really good.

684
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>We're glad we get this, and maybe it'll tie into

685
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>my factor fiction maybe that.

686
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will take this over a Mojo episode any day.

687
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Like you not give me Mojo. You're not bringing back

688
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Arcade, You're not doing one of these stupid

689
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>silly villains to get them through. So I will take

690
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little Wolverine solo episode or you know,

691
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 1>a callback to re having a a new version of

692
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.199
<v Speaker 1>an old episode any day rather than some of that

693
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.519
<v Speaker 1>other stuff. And yeah, after a big moment like the

694
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>way that this ended, the presumed death of Magneto and

695
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>everything else and the X Men feeling like they have

696
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.079
<v Speaker 1>just lost, sometimes it's good to have a nice little

697
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.760
<v Speaker 1>palate cleanser before you dive back in. It's good because

698
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 1>number one, it gives you a moment or two again

699
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>reflect on that other episode, get ready for the next

700
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.519
<v Speaker 1>number two. Sometimes it's hard when you were the episode

701
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.599
<v Speaker 1>right after that great episode. Yeah, because people like well

702
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:04.519
<v Speaker 1>is good, but it's not as great as the last episode.

703
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>This one is meant to be a polyot cleanser, so

704
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 1>if it's not a nine point five on your scale,

705
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that's okay.

706
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And again I'm okay because we're not continuing on

707
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 2>with the overall story of what just happened. We're going

708
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 2>with because I think we were told at one point

709
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that the new the team, the Wolverine and them Ryn,

710
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>they get there two days before Charles's team, So yeah,

711
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.199
<v Speaker 2>this is I'm assuming this is what's going on in

712
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 2>the two days that we wait for them to show

713
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.719
<v Speaker 2>back up from their from their time travel and adventures.

714
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 3>So I'm okay with that.

715
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.639
<v Speaker 2>And also there might be reasons why they're doing this

716
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 2>for Wolverine and part of his story right now too,

717
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 2>because we haven't seen much of him because even the

718
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:48.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff with the Future Brave was doo it mostly was

719
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 2>focused on Scott Jean and Nathan So and mother of Santi.

720
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, completely okay with this. Really excited because I

721
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.599
<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed that episode that you talked about. Not I

722
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:04.840
<v Speaker 2>did enjoy caps appearance and him handing a but man

723
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>that animation in that fifth season, some of the people

724
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 2>at some of the companies they had doing the animation.

725
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:10.920
<v Speaker 3>It was rough, so yeah, it was sad.

726
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.639
<v Speaker 2>I wish we saw in a previous style, but it's

727
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 2>really nice just to see cap here and Black Widow

728
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>sneaking up Logan was a nice little touch there.

729
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it was cool to see Oracle, to see

730
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>him and like it would be fun and interesting to

731
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 1>see where this next episode goes. Again. It's called webinx

732
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Lies and DVDs, which I'm hoping is, you know, just

733
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>a continuation or continuing some of the stories that were

734
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 1>set up in Weapon x Lies and videotapes, and we

735
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>may be seeing Wolverine on his quest to get his

736
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Adamantium back.

737
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I agree all right with that.

738
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 1>That was episode four in great episode, amazing writing, and

739
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they absolutely just killed it with this. Rise

740
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of Apocalypse Part two is sitting right now as as

741
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 1>my favorite overall of the X Men ninety seven we do, and.

742
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you. It just passed Jenosha episode for me.

743
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what that episode was called now, but

744
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.719
<v Speaker 2>that was pretty high stakes too. This is just so great,

745
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and again I want to give Disney plus because Marvel

746
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and Disney gets a lot of crap sometimes for some

747
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of the decisions they make and stuff. Lately with the Genelion,

748
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to give them props because they actually put

749
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 2>out a thirty minute animated series episode and that doesn't

750
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>happen if it's on cable or on like the old way.

751
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>So I just want to give them a little bit

752
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>of props there because this episode deserved the extra time.

753
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>It needed, some time to breathe some of these conversations,

754
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>some of these debates, and then definitely have it ended

755
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 2>like giving Charles that extra time of after Magneto dies,

756
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 2>to have Bishop come back like ten seconds later and

757
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>it be like the whole night and just sit there

758
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and then when it turns the black, it's day is

759
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.719
<v Speaker 2>the black for a minute first before it goes right

760
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 2>away to it all works so well, So just might

761
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 2>give them props for this whole show with fire.

762
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 3>On all cylinders.

763
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Episode five from last season, the Jenochia episode is

764
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>called remember it made famous for Game Bit's you know line,

765
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you know remember it? And between that and the ending

766
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 1>arc because I I just call it an arc, it was,

767
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, three episodes, so I tie them together. The

768
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Tolerances Extinction, those were great as well, But right now

769
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 1>this sits slightly above Remember it just due to all

770
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the callbacks, all the nostalgia and things like that. As

771
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>this says, it may flip flop back and forth with

772
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>season one episode five, but that one sets such a

773
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>high bar. This is setting such a high bar. I

774
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 1>think this is going to be an episode that is

775
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:53.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot.

776
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Also depends on what you do with these characters, because

777
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.519
<v Speaker 2>we can have a little discussion. Now, do you think

778
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 2>these there's this character and a character from the previous

779
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 2>season that's going to return, and not only return, will

780
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 2>they eventually get back on the side of good with

781
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the good team, And if so, that kind of might

782
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 2>minimize some of their some of what happens in those

783
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:13.320
<v Speaker 2>two episodes.

784
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if we do some time traveling Shenan against two

785
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:19.679
<v Speaker 1>episodes from now, and they find a way to bring

786
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Magneto back, you know, they pull them from a different

787
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 1>timeline or whatever, then to me, that minimizes this episode

788
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of takes it away. I think we

789
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.199
<v Speaker 1>all know where we're going with Gambit going forward, which

790
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>is going to be becoming a horseman.

791
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Before I thought we.

792
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Might have seen him on that tablet too. There is

793
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 2>a spot where it little.

794
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's it's got the long hair. The horsemen of

795
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Death look on there. So I did have a pause

796
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and like, is that isn't that? But I couldn't say

797
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>with one hundred percent certainty, But you know it, we

798
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of know where they're going with the gambit storyline,

799
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 1>and if they go with that, and if they falter

800
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.760
<v Speaker 1>with how they handle the fallout from Magneto, then yes,

801
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>remember it stays in the top spot, but if they

802
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>can do something good with the fallout of Magneto and

803
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 1>really push that going forward, then I think that this

804
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>does have potential for overtaking it.

805
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 2>You know what else is nice having complete like they've

806
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 2>earned with me and having complete faith that they will

807
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 2>do that, Like, yeah, the right thing with this because

808
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.079
<v Speaker 2>of Hackwood. They've done the first season and a half

809
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of this show, so like they've won me over to

810
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:28.519
<v Speaker 2>a point where I don't have to worry about any

811
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 2>crazy decisions. I think they know they understand the characters

812
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>quite well, and if these first four episodes are in

813
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the indication, they're still in good hands going forward without

814
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 2>go to the experience.

815
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Yet, Yeah, I don't have the please don't mess this up.

816
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Please don't mess this up. Please don't mess this up.

817
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Feeling when it comes to this and that is good.

818
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>So with that being said again, this is that that

819
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 1>that that that is fair. That is that is definitely fair.

820
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.639
<v Speaker 1>So with that being said again, this was episode four,

821
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Rise of Apocalypse, Part two. We're going to take our

822
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>second ad break before we get into feedback and questions

823
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 1>plus our factor fiction and everything else from there. So again,

824
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.519
<v Speaker 1>let's just we don't control the volume. We have a

825
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 1>chance to turn it down three to one and we're back,

826
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:33.559
<v Speaker 1>all right, So put out the call again. I for

827
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.519
<v Speaker 1>those listening, we are doing a pre tape. This was

828
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 1>kind of a last minute decision due to just some

829
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>things that popped up on both our ends, So pout

830
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.559
<v Speaker 1>the call. Did not get any questions, that's fine. If

831
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you do have any questions, reach out to us on

832
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 1>all socials. We'll be happy to answer them. My dms

833
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:53.679
<v Speaker 1>are open Chris's or you can reach out to us

834
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, Blue Sky, whichever platform you prefer. We are

835
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 1>there and yes, send in your questions. Again, Chris will

836
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>be back next week as we go into our next episode.

837
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>So with that, let me pull up last week's Factor Fictions,

838
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:18.599
<v Speaker 1>and let's see the results of that. So last year's

839
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Factor Fiction number one. We will hear only one official

840
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:27.079
<v Speaker 1>announcement of a new Phase six movie beyond X Men,

841
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.599
<v Speaker 1>during next year's San Diego Comic Con. That is seventy

842
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>percent fact and thirty percent fiction. Charles, let's say you

843
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 1>on that.

844
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I voted on all three of these prior and I

845
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 2>said fact on this one.

846
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Awesome Number two, we will see a new live action

847
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Sony Spider Man Universe movie within three years. That one

848
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>got fifty to fifty between the fact and fiction.

849
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 3>I was a no on that one. I did not

850
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 3>think that. I don't trust Sony.

851
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>See again, I am fact only because it's a Sony

852
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man Universe movie doesn't mean that they're gonna make

853
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 1>a Spider Man movie, just a universe movie. They're gonna

854
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>pull some random villain out of the hat.

855
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Just a learned from the universe.

856
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess no, it's it's morbious. Part two. God so

857
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 1>and then Factor of Fiction number three. By the end

858
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 1>of spider Man Brand New Day, MJ will regain all

859
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of her lost memories and remember who Peter Parker really is.

860
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Sixty seven percent said fact, three percent said fiction.

861
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Begruly said fact, although I hope it was fiction. I

862
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 2>wanted him to just spranch off for a little bit.

863
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:42.320
<v Speaker 2>For I wanted that to happen in the third.

864
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Of these new trilogy maybe instead of the first.

865
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so so again, those are last week. So mister Hayes,

866
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>what do you have for us this week?

867
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Mine are very X Men ninety seven centric after going

868
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 2>through that previous episode, so I wanted to say this

869
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:03.639
<v Speaker 2>for the next episode, but I'm going.

870
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 3>To be honest with you.

871
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to give myself some leeway, so I said

872
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Wolverine will get his animantium skeleton back in the next

873
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>two seasons, so we know this is going on for

874
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:12.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time.

875
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 3>So I gave myself a little leeway.

876
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to say Wolverem will gives add amanham scale

877
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.480
<v Speaker 2>back the next episode, but I did not say that.

878
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.840
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I gave myself a little leeway. I do

879
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.400
<v Speaker 2>think they're going to do that and give that back name,

880
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 2>sooner rather than later.

881
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and say fact on this. You know,

882
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 1>toy Selles rule everything when it comes to these animation projects,

883
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>so they're gonna need the new toys, and they're gonna

884
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>need the we're gonna need the claws out, So I

885
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:48.280
<v Speaker 1>think we're probably going to start down the path with

886
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the next episode. I think this is going to be

887
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like the Storm situation from last season, where they do

888
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an episode over here with the

889
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 1>working to get the powers, and we'll do a little

890
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 1>bit of another episode when he actual gets the Adamancium back.

891
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

892
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's why I wasn't sure like when they'll

893
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 2>do this. Maybe they'll wait until next season to do it,

894
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.960
<v Speaker 2>so maybe they'll he'll find where to go at the

895
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:12.840
<v Speaker 2>end of this next episode. So that's why I wanted

896
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.519
<v Speaker 2>to give myself a little bit of room. Uh and

897
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:17.800
<v Speaker 2>same thing here. I kind of want to say Onslaught

898
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:21.159
<v Speaker 2>will appear at the end of this season, but I

899
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 2>went with Magneto will return.

900
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I am going to say fact on that because I

901
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 1>do feel like Onslaught will appear. I don't know if

902
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>it will be this season or next, but I do

903
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 1>think that they are going to build up two Onslaught.

904
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 2>So for those establishing I feel like establishing Apocalypse is

905
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>how strong he is and if Onslought comes out and

906
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 2>takes him out. It's gonna like really like level, like

907
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>show what kind of level he is.

908
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for those of you who don't know, Onslaught is

909
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>a character that is basically a merging of the minds

910
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:02.599
<v Speaker 1>into this pure, just powerful being. Magneto and Charles's Psyche's

911
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>is what created Onslaught.

912
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 2>So basically looks like Juggernaut and Magneto combined. No offense

913
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to Charles, but he looks like his brother and Magneto combined.

914
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it looks like if Magneto found like this bulking

915
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>mech suit and you know, went all power Rangers and

916
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>jumped into this thing, he goes right like that, That's

917
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what Onslought looks like.

918
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:30.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I do think.

919
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, I kind of like Magnio storyline is wrapped up

920
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.480
<v Speaker 2>so well from the first episode of the first of

921
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 2>X Men and the anime series. To hear, it almost

922
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:40.960
<v Speaker 2>is a crime to bring him back. But you've been

923
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 2>teasing the athlot so much in the last season and

924
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:47.280
<v Speaker 2>a half that we're definitely yeah, and the final one here.

925
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 2>We'll get another Avengers cameo this season, because I think

926
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:54.079
<v Speaker 2>delaying the Easter egg for an eventual X Men versus

927
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 2>an Avengers storyline. We got iron Man and Captain America.

928
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Last season we got Iron Man and Black Widowed Man.

929
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:05.320
<v Speaker 3>So all right, so.

930
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's see we will get another Avengers cameo this season.

931
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that a fact? You know? I'm going to go

932
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>fact on that, even if it's not a full speaking cameo,

933
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.159
<v Speaker 1>even if they do like they did when they had

934
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the power out. It's when Magneto was reversing the polls

935
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they had Silver Samurai and they had

936
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man and Daredevil and all that. Like, I could

937
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 1>see them doing something like that and us getting another

938
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:36.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the Avengers. I would love if we got

939
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the old the nineties iron Man in the costume, as

940
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.800
<v Speaker 1>long as they don't do the whole when it in

941
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the old Iron Man cartoon when they transitioned to that

942
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 1>weird three D when he was doing his suit up

943
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>like halfway through. As long as we don't get anything

944
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like that, then I'm fine with it.

945
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see Halt too, to be honest

946
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.119
<v Speaker 2>with you, because we've seen more transform into him and

947
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.639
<v Speaker 2>just I'd love to see him show up at some point.

948
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

949
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, so those are our three again. We will

950
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>put these out on Sunday for you all to vote

951
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 1>on on the official Twitter, So go out vote for it.

952
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Let us know we will be returning next week with

953
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Comic Book Club and did not want to subject mister

954
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Hines to reading the other It is. It is. It

955
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:34.840
<v Speaker 1>is a storyline, but it is not not something I

956
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>would suggect subject someone to unless they absolutely had to

957
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and concern relying right in the middle of this. So

958
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:42.880
<v Speaker 1>we will return next week with the other part two,

959
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 1>which is out of Marvel Night's Spider Man number nineteen.

960
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.679
<v Speaker 1>So you guys, if you haven't read it yet, be

961
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>on the look out. You got an extra week to

962
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:59.760
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00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:21.599
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968
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.039
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<v Speaker 3>You can follow me on Twitter at Travis Underscore one,

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971
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:36.760
<v Speaker 2>You can drop me a lot. We can chat at

972
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:39.280
<v Speaker 2>pretty much anything. I also host two shows on the

973
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Gua podcast. Network, the Animation Nation where we're doing Rick

974
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:47.039
<v Speaker 2>and Morty right now. Uh and oh thank god Batman.

975
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Cake Crusaders is coming up soon. I'm super excited for that.

976
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.079
<v Speaker 2>And we also have the DC Alliance where we talk

977
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 2>about DC every week. We just had Supergirl and we're

978
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:55.760
<v Speaker 2>dealing with the follow from that.

979
00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the poor, poor poor superhol I like the movie,

980
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.119
<v Speaker 1>but I will let the listeners go and listen to

981
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys's thoughts on that a lot more in depth

982
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.239
<v Speaker 1>than anything that I could ever say. You can email

983
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.719
<v Speaker 1>this show here directly at Marvel Alliance Podcasts at gmail

984
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.960
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985
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I said at gapod network, feel free to tweet

986
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:26.000
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987
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 1>questions that we will answer the next show. Remember to

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989
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:37.320
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<v Speaker 1>And I stand the man with say excelsor true Believers?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone all right, post credits discussion and this is a

992
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.079
<v Speaker 1>fun one. So I've been sitting on this for a

993
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.039
<v Speaker 1>while and Chris didn't want to do it because he

994
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 1>said he absolutely sucks at fancasting, so he.

995
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:58.000
<v Speaker 3>I think you take person than Chris.

996
00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:59.719
<v Speaker 2>When you said this, I was like, I don't know

997
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:05.199
<v Speaker 2>any child actors names, and any child actors in twelve,

998
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

999
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Know regular actors' names.

1000
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't even remember the guy I want to say,

1001
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:13.039
<v Speaker 2>just because he's had some really odd interviews and stuff.

1002
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.039
<v Speaker 3>More is the one.

1003
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Moore does the voice.

1004
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Like thirty, so he's got an option.

1005
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:27.760
<v Speaker 2>So uh uh, I don't know their name. But there

1006
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:31.320
<v Speaker 2>is a guy who plays a kid in Cobra Kai.

1007
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Yah.

1008
00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I can't remember credits, and there's been a lot

1009
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.480
<v Speaker 2>of times I've watched Cobra Kai, but I think you

1010
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 2>should have someone that can even like Tom Holland, like

1011
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>is pretty good at the action side of things flips

1012
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 2>and stuff as well. So uh oh my god, I

1013
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:49.400
<v Speaker 2>feel like his name was Dallas.

1014
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I can't.

1015
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Remember dallast pretty young. So the question, the question for

1016
00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.599
<v Speaker 1>our listeners is with Tom Holland officially saying that he

1017
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:02.840
<v Speaker 1>wants to mentor a successor the same way Tony Stark

1018
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 1>did for Peter Uh, Like, who is your your fan

1019
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.639
<v Speaker 1>has for a live action Moss And yes, Dallas du

1020
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:15.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty young would be an amazing, amazing choice. You know,

1021
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:21.519
<v Speaker 1>he's got the martial arts background and he's got the

1022
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 1>versatility to do that. He can he can move, which

1023
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.119
<v Speaker 1>is something that Tom Holland brought to it with his

1024
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>dance background and everything else. He was able to, you know,

1025
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.920
<v Speaker 1>bring that that fluid movement to him as well. So

1026
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I think Dallas would would be an excellent, excellent.

1027
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Choice in uh uh Colbert Pie.

1028
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, so I said he he would. He would

1029
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:59.079
<v Speaker 1>be a great choice. I know there has been a

1030
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:03.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of fan casting for the guy from Stranger Things

1031
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:08.039
<v Speaker 1>to play it, but Caleb McLoughlin, But I think he

1032
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:10.960
<v Speaker 1>is probably just he would be a little bit too

1033
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:16.400
<v Speaker 1>old at this point, like said, we would be going

1034
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:20.199
<v Speaker 1>relatively young with this.

1035
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Character in time where you want to go with him, right,

1036
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you could just have him being seventeen rating in the

1037
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Continue the World instead of some iterations has him at

1038
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 2>twelve start.

1039
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:31.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So if.

1040
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 2>You can do like seventeen rating, then you can possibly

1041
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 2>finesse it that way and the actor can be a

1042
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.320
<v Speaker 2>bit older and play a bit younger character. But you

1043
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:43.239
<v Speaker 2>do get in that slippery slope, especially if this is

1044
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>a big hit of the character, and he has to

1045
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:47.599
<v Speaker 2>stay Ryan for a while a certain point, like you

1046
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 2>might get a bit too old looking, So you're right

1047
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.079
<v Speaker 2>about that, Like there is gonna have to be an

1048
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 2>age limit on this character for the actors anyway.

1049
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that that is going to be the hard thing.

1050
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:02.599
<v Speaker 1>So do you go so unknown because you want somebody

1051
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>young that you can, you know, try and build up

1052
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 1>and keep around, or do you go with someone established

1053
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:13.920
<v Speaker 1>who's going to be there, you know, or you try

1054
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and find someone who is a mix of the Black

1055
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 1>and Puerto Rican to really sell on that lineage that's

1056
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:30.519
<v Speaker 1>that is already there for that character. So you know

1057
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of them. There is another kid,

1058
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>his name is Lonnie Chavis. He's was on NBC's Uh,

1059
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.679
<v Speaker 1>This is Us and you know, he's been in some

1060
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:49.760
<v Speaker 1>other stuff. He he kind of fits that mold. And

1061
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:54.039
<v Speaker 1>then there's Miles Brown from the show black Ish, who

1062
00:59:54.880 --> 01:00:01.280
<v Speaker 1>is an amazing performer, great kid actor, and he is

1063
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:07.000
<v Speaker 1>also African American, Filipino and Mexican in his heritage. So

1064
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 1>now that's not exactly the Afro Puerto Rican an African

1065
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:17.079
<v Speaker 1>American background that Miles has, but it is something that

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01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 1>does represent you know that that mix of people within

1067
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that he.

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01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Can actually definitely identify with some of the trials that

1069
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 2>a character like Miles go through in the city of

1070
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:30.840
<v Speaker 2>New York too.

1071
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it would definitely be believable to see him

1072
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:41.760
<v Speaker 1>in that place. And Miles has cosplayed and dressed up

1073
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:44.800
<v Speaker 1>as Miles Miles version of Spider Man a couple of

1074
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 1>times on social media. Like I said, he fits the look.

1075
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Can Travis give just a little bit of history lesson

1076
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:59.320
<v Speaker 2>advice here? Don't do that going forward. I never Andrew

1077
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Garfield might be the only one, but that was after

1078
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.639
<v Speaker 2>he got the roles, So I don't see many people

1079
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.480
<v Speaker 2>winning the roles when they dress up as him. Just ask,

1080
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.360
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, who is he from Fast and Furious?

1081
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Not Vin Diesel but Tyrese Tyrese. Yeah, he he went

1082
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.880
<v Speaker 2>hard to be Green Lantern, like hard to be Green

1083
01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Lantern And yeah.

1084
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Just there's a level with this.

1085
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:26.000
<v Speaker 2>You got to play it cool at times too, That's

1086
01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:29.480
<v Speaker 2>all because but it would be awesome data. A couple

1087
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.559
<v Speaker 2>of those options that you've thrown out are really really great,

1088
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:33.840
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, I like for someone to be

1089
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:35.559
<v Speaker 2>able to do the action part of it, a little

1090
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:37.360
<v Speaker 2>bit of it like I'm not talking about you, like

1091
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.239
<v Speaker 2>swinging off wires, like leave that to the stump people.

1092
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:43.440
<v Speaker 2>But like even some of the gymnastics at Tom Holling

1093
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:45.920
<v Speaker 2>can do sometimes when you see him doing the same

1094
01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 2>thing here, like a little bit of gymnastics than that

1095
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:48.599
<v Speaker 2>moth Brian.

1096
01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 3>I looked it up.

1097
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:53.360
<v Speaker 2>He has a bit background gymnastics, Dan Parkour, So yeah,

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01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:55.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool, pretty cool choice to be honest with you.

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01:01:56.679 --> 01:02:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just being able to do some of the some

1100
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.880
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff and be believable in that, because I mean,

1101
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:07.360
<v Speaker 1>if you don't, if you look stiff and you don't

1102
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:09.519
<v Speaker 1>look believable, then I'm not going to believe that that's you

1103
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 1>in the suit now, twisting and turning and all this

1104
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 1>other stuff.

1105
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 2>It helps with the Colot suit when you're actually like

1106
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the person like Peter Parter or Miles if you have

1107
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:18.800
<v Speaker 2>got any fight scenes.

1108
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:19.239
<v Speaker 3>It helps.

1109
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Go look at the Iron Fist season one, like Cotton Machine,

1110
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:26.440
<v Speaker 2>because the guy who playing Danny Ran didn't train enough

1111
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:29.360
<v Speaker 2>in my humble opinion to do some of the stuff,

1112
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and you've see a lot more of his stunt performers.

1113
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:32.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's just some of the things that help

1114
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.480
<v Speaker 2>get you immersed into the movie world. If you don't

1115
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:38.400
<v Speaker 2>like see a big stunting pirate there where you see

1116
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:39.719
<v Speaker 2>that's definitely not the actor.

1117
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:40.519
<v Speaker 3>That's a stunt person.

1118
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Like we know you're not jumping out of buildings and swinging,

1119
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.039
<v Speaker 2>but like some of this stuff, like you said, it

1120
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:46.920
<v Speaker 2>really makes us believe that you can be in the

1121
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:47.679
<v Speaker 2>suit as well.

1122
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I said that again all fun discussion. We

1123
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.239
<v Speaker 1>have no idea who they're going to cast, when they're

1124
01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 1>going to cast, if they're even going to cast it.

1125
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.079
<v Speaker 1>We have to get through the next Sony and I

1126
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.960
<v Speaker 1>made it Spider Man first before that's even a discussion

1127
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.920
<v Speaker 1>because I know they don't want to overshadow that with

1128
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:09.480
<v Speaker 1>any announcements or anything else. So once we finally get

1129
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that in our hands, then we will start to get

1130
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a bitter a better picture painted of what's next.

1131
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:19.079
<v Speaker 3>You're welcome Chris or Johan and the Grenada. This discussion, I.

1132
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Guess see, it wasn't so bad.

1133
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.400
<v Speaker 3>So no, I'm just not very good at that.

1134
01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Like again, I didn't even know the name of the

1135
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Dallas guy, like it took me. I'm not very good

1136
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.000
<v Speaker 2>at the name that people. I've watched shows, but it's

1137
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:33.360
<v Speaker 2>just hired. I kind of remember their characters more than

1138
01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:34.480
<v Speaker 2>anything else most times.

1139
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's sometimes that I have to do is

1140
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I know this kid from that show. Let

1141
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:40.920
<v Speaker 1>me go look at that show. Then I'll look him

1142
01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.239
<v Speaker 1>up on Internet movie database and grab their name from that.

1143
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:47.280
<v Speaker 1>So but again, thank you for filling in. Thank you

1144
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.119
<v Speaker 1>for as seeing Chris's stent. Like I said, he will

1145
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.400
<v Speaker 1>be back next week. He's out having a much needed,

1146
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:57.639
<v Speaker 1>much deserved vacation, so I wish him the best, which

1147
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.880
<v Speaker 1>is the best of your upcoming travels, And it just

1148
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:03.239
<v Speaker 1>reminds me I need to take a vacation soon. So

1149
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:05.119
<v Speaker 1>I think at the end of the month, I'm going

1150
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:08.639
<v Speaker 1>to do a little weekend getaway. Won't miss any showtime,

1151
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 1>but I am going to get away because it's needed.

1152
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:13.920
<v Speaker 2>It's always nice to get away and recharge the battery. Luckily,

1153
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 2>the in laws have a pool, so I will be

1154
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:19.360
<v Speaker 2>floating in the pool being third option on the parentmobile

1155
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:24.239
<v Speaker 2>because the mom takes number one, but the grandma swoop

1156
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:26.800
<v Speaker 2>seeing and kind of supersedes me. So I'm just going

1157
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:30.559
<v Speaker 2>to be sitting in the pool, relaxing and enjoying my weekend.

1158
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:32.199
<v Speaker 3>So thank you for having me, David.

1159
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I love chatting me this stuff, and I really appreciate

1160
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 2>you changing your schedule around to Accommody be is greatly

1161
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:41.159
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. And this will not be the last time

1162
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:43.159
<v Speaker 2>you see me in this season, listeners.

1163
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:45.440
<v Speaker 3>I was supposed to come for episode.

1164
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:48.960
<v Speaker 2>One, but I had to get the breaks changed unexpectedly,

1165
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:51.119
<v Speaker 2>so that kind of made me not make it the

1166
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:54.000
<v Speaker 2>night before. So yeah, yeah, you will see me again.

1167
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:56.719
<v Speaker 2>This season is just too fire not to have me

1168
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:57.159
<v Speaker 2>come back.

1169
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.880
<v Speaker 1>And I will say for a long time, listeners, the

1170
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel safe now calling it. We've had back end discussions.

1171
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:11.079
<v Speaker 1>The streak, I think we can say is officially broken

1172
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:16.400
<v Speaker 1>on you having the bad weeks. The last three three

1173
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:20.199
<v Speaker 1>or four have been very fruitful, so I think the

1174
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:27.679
<v Speaker 1>streak has broken so for years, so that's good. So again, listeners,

1175
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:29.920
<v Speaker 1>thank you for listening, and we will talk to you

1176
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:30.360
<v Speaker 1>all later.

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01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:31.559
<v Speaker 3>See everyone.

1178
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah,