Speaker 1: All right, we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on
Speaker 1: a five seventy LA Sports. A reminder the media in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles will officially meet Roki Sazaki three o'clock. We
Speaker 1: will have that for you here on the radio station,
Speaker 1: and David Vasse will be out there joining us.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Our dear friend from the LA Times who just does
Speaker 1: a terrific job every day, Jack Harris, who covers the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: and Jack welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey, how you guys doing.
Speaker 1: We're doing well. Jack, you nailed it this morning. What
Speaker 1: a great piece on what went on behind the scenes
Speaker 1: and the recruiting that went on to get Sazaki first.
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to find all that
Speaker 1: information out.
Speaker 3: In real time? Probably not as fast as I would like.
Speaker 3: There is a lot of it wasn't quite the level
Speaker 3: of Otani free agency secrecy. But yeah, I think teams
Speaker 3: were being pretty cautious about sharing, you know, too much
Speaker 3: about what was going on and their respective recruiting processes
Speaker 3: and how they were trying to make their pitches for
Speaker 3: Aki Susaki. But I think afterwards, you know, obviously people
Speaker 3: around the Dodgers involved in their pitch process were pretty
Speaker 3: pleased with how it went down, with with the message
Speaker 3: that they got across, and you know, ultimately being able
Speaker 3: to land this picture that they've coveted for the last
Speaker 3: several years.
Speaker 4: Here and Jack, let's be let's be honest. The Dodgers
Speaker 4: have with this process did everything above board. You know,
Speaker 4: there are people out there that are suggesting that that
Speaker 4: they didn't. And there's you know, there's other folks that
Speaker 4: uh staying there manipulating the rules of of MLB with
Speaker 4: the deferral payments and all that stuff, to the point
Speaker 4: where there's a bill in the state trying to trying
Speaker 4: to stop what the Dodgers have done. But they've done
Speaker 4: everything under the rules of MLB. But this happens. This
Speaker 4: happens all the time if you're whether you're a four
Speaker 4: player or not. But there it happens. Recruitment happens with guys.
Speaker 4: If you're familiar with somebody, you can say, yeah, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let's go to dinner. If you have mookie
Speaker 4: bets and you got a buddy who's really really good,
Speaker 4: you gotta go to dinner and say, hey, why don't
Speaker 4: you come be a Dodger. That's there's nothing wrong with that,
Speaker 4: why are people so up and arms? Is it because
Speaker 4: it's the Dodgers And obviously the Yankees went through this too,
Speaker 4: But but now that the Dodgers have spent money, people
Speaker 4: are jealous. Other owners are jealous now because it feels
Speaker 4: like it's coming for the other owners. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think generally this offseason, when it's come
Speaker 3: to the money the Dodgers have spent, the way they've
Speaker 3: used these big deferral, big signing bonus contracts to land
Speaker 3: star players, it's created some consternation around the league about,
Speaker 3: you know, can anybody compete with them? And I think
Speaker 3: most people would point back and say, look, what the
Speaker 3: Dodgers you're doing is is what you'd expect a team
Speaker 3: like the Dodgers to do that makes as much money
Speaker 3: and has as many resources as they do. And it's
Speaker 3: up to the other teams to find ways to compete
Speaker 3: with them. And then when it came to the Roki
Speaker 3: Sasaki free agency specifically, you know, this is something that
Speaker 3: I know obviously has been talked about a lot publicly
Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks, this idea that maybe
Speaker 3: the Dodgers had a handshake deal, maybe they had some
Speaker 3: sort of advantage in this. This is something that people
Speaker 3: around the sport had been speculating about, even going back
Speaker 3: to the last offseason, when it looked like for a minute,
Speaker 3: Roki Sasaki might come over to the big leagues last year.
Speaker 3: And yeah, to some people, there was this idea that,
Speaker 3: you know, the Dodgers were going to get him, not
Speaker 3: just because they were the most logical landing place and
Speaker 3: the best fit, but because maybe something below board had happened. Now,
Speaker 3: before MLB even approved Roki Sasaki's posting to where he
Speaker 3: would be allowed to sign with big league teams, they
Speaker 3: did investigate some of this stuff. They didn't find any
Speaker 3: evidence to corroborate it. They even poked around with Sasaki's
Speaker 3: Japanese team to make because obviously they didn't get it's
Speaker 3: like a one point six million dollar posting fee out
Speaker 3: of this, to make sure there was no you known,
Speaker 3: illegal kickback scheme or something like that. So there's been
Speaker 3: a lot of chatter about this, but as far as
Speaker 3: you know, people with the league are concerned, they haven't
Speaker 3: seen any evidence or anything else to suggest that this
Speaker 3: didn't play out in a fair and proper way. I
Speaker 3: think when you look at how it did play out,
Speaker 3: you know, because Rokie, in consultation with MLB, ended up
Speaker 3: signing in the twenty twenty five signing period. It put
Speaker 3: the Dodgers at a little bit of a financial disadvantage because
Speaker 3: they had the smallest signing pool with which to try
Speaker 3: to pursue him out of any team in the big leagues.
Speaker 3: And obviously we're able to overcome that in a couple
Speaker 3: other ways. And you know, in this situation, money wasn't
Speaker 3: the number one factor. So yeah, this has been something
Speaker 3: that's been talked about a lot, with this specific situation
Speaker 3: and then against the backdrop of all the other spending
Speaker 3: that the Dodgers are doing. But you know, if you
Speaker 3: talk to people with the Dodgers will say, look, we're
Speaker 3: just I think Andrew Freeman said it earlier this offseason.
Speaker 3: We look at this as rewarding our fan base and
Speaker 3: taking the resources that we have and the money they've
Speaker 3: made off of all their on field success and trying
Speaker 3: to reinvest it back in the team to be as
Speaker 3: good as they can be moving into the future.
Speaker 1: Jack Harriss at the Times is with us, all right, Jack,
Speaker 1: if you would through your reporting, because on that piece
Speaker 1: was great today let's talk about the initial meeting and
Speaker 1: what you learned was part of the homework assignment for
Speaker 1: each team, and then the second meeting when players were
Speaker 1: allowed because you wrote about them both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think the Dodger pitch in this situation
Speaker 3: kind of played out in two ways. There was this focus,
Speaker 3: especially in the initial meeting, on you know, pitching development,
Speaker 3: player development, what teams could do for Roki. He assigned them, Yes,
Speaker 3: this homework assignment now as his agent termed it, which
Speaker 3: is basically asking teams to identify why they thought his
Speaker 3: past ball velocity dropped off a little bit last year
Speaker 3: from you know, ninety eight ninety nine outs like ninety
Speaker 3: six ninety seven, and what they would do to try
Speaker 3: to fix it. This is something that the Dodgers felt,
Speaker 3: as I wrote about, like, was kind of in their
Speaker 3: sweet spot. For all the problems that they've had with
Speaker 3: pitching injuries, they are really good at helping pitchers develop
Speaker 3: stuff and maximize their talent and be the best versions
Speaker 3: of themselves. So that was always going to be something
Speaker 3: that in addition to you know, the prestige of playing
Speaker 3: for the Dodgers and the chance to compete for a
Speaker 3: World Series and all the other selling points that they had.
Speaker 3: I think there was a pretty big focus on, Hey,
Speaker 3: if you want to become the kind of player you
Speaker 3: think you can be, we are the best place for
Speaker 3: you to do that. Then that was all backed up
Speaker 3: by the actual messaging from the players, you know. Some
Speaker 3: of this started with Shoheyo Tani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto's personal
Speaker 3: relationships with them, as I wrote about, like they took
Speaker 3: them out to a dinner early in the process. Tyler
Speaker 3: Glasnow talked about the message he sent Roki during this,
Speaker 3: which was, hey, if you you know, whatever your motivations are,
Speaker 3: the Dodgers of the place that can help you, you know,
Speaker 3: achieve everything you want to. And then yeah, last week
Speaker 3: the team had their second meeting with him. He granted
Speaker 3: meetings to his three finalists where he went in person
Speaker 3: to see each of them, and then the Dodgers, casey,
Speaker 3: because of the renovations going out of the stadium, they
Speaker 3: had it at one of their co owners' houses. They
Speaker 3: had a sushi dinner, but the big crux of that
Speaker 3: event was having a handful of players there in person.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Mookie Beds stood up and gave this long speech about
Speaker 3: the special place that Los Angeles and the Dodgers have become,
Speaker 3: you know, in the second half of his career. Will
Speaker 3: Smith was there talking about the pitcher catcher dynamics and
Speaker 3: you know, all of that goes into that with the team.
Speaker 3: The team got videos from a lot of the players
Speaker 3: who couldn't attend in person talking about, you know, how
Speaker 3: much they've enjoyed the Dodgers, why they thought it was
Speaker 3: a great place, you know, telling him how excited they
Speaker 3: were at the possibility of playing with him. And I
Speaker 3: think the people around the team that were involved in
Speaker 3: this process, it was that ability to take what they
Speaker 3: felt like was a strong message on paper and then
Speaker 3: have it backed up by so many star players and
Speaker 3: big voices, and then obviously sho Hee Otani himself, who
Speaker 3: was the person who could most mostly relate to the
Speaker 3: experience that Sasaki was going through this in this entire
Speaker 3: posting process. People around the team thought that that really
Speaker 3: helped their their message land that it resonated with Roki
Speaker 3: you Muki that is in Japan right now on a
Speaker 3: promotional tour actually, but was talking about this with reporters
Speaker 3: there and said, you know, even during that dinner he
Speaker 3: could just tell how much Roki, you know, is going
Speaker 3: to enjoy playing with Otani and Yamamoto, and I think
Speaker 3: especially with Otani, that was a question coming into this
Speaker 3: right that Rokie Susaki said, I want to be the
Speaker 3: number one player in the world, and it was fair
Speaker 3: to wonder did he feel like he could do that
Speaker 3: if he's playing with the current best player in the
Speaker 3: world and show hey Otani and maybe being in his
Speaker 3: shadows someone and being around all the attention that comes
Speaker 3: with it, and I think being able to have all
Speaker 3: of the players help deliver that message, you know, attest
Speaker 3: to the kind of place that the Dodgers organization is
Speaker 3: to play again to people around the team. They felt
Speaker 3: like that was a really big part of helping them
Speaker 3: land their message and ultimately why Rokey Susaki is going
Speaker 3: to be introduced here in a couple hours at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1: Jack, do you know anything about who was at the
Speaker 1: other meetings for the other clubs or how those went.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had players there too, I think obviously with
Speaker 3: the padres, you know, there are videos of some players
Speaker 3: being around. There was the the U Darvish connection that
Speaker 3: he had with Roki Saki is something that you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of people in the sport, especially as it
Speaker 3: got closer to his, you know, his decision. There was
Speaker 3: a lot of buzz about the Padres feeling confident, feeling
Speaker 3: like that Darvish relationship in particular, you know, was going
Speaker 3: to be a plus for them. It seems like, especially
Speaker 3: among the three finalists, each of them you know, were
Speaker 3: able to present something that really struck Roki Soak. You know,
Speaker 3: obviously he hasn't talked about this publicly yet. We'll probably
Speaker 3: learn more about, you know, what some of the de
Speaker 3: factors were for him at the end. But when it
Speaker 3: came to the Dodgers again, like on paper, they checked
Speaker 3: so many boxes for what it seemed like would matter
Speaker 3: to Roki Ssaki in his future. And yeah, when you
Speaker 3: can back up up with just the star power that
Speaker 3: the Dodgers have, obviously, the players that already knew him personally,
Speaker 3: all the other big names that could talk about, you know,
Speaker 3: why they've enjoyed playing for the team so much. You know,
Speaker 3: it's easy when you kind of look back at all
Speaker 3: of this on totality now to see, yeah, that that
Speaker 3: probably makes for a pretty compelling pitch for for somebody
Speaker 3: who has followed MLB for a long time, has followed
Speaker 3: you know, what happens in the league pretty closely, and
Speaker 3: getting to hear all that firsthand, I'm sure ended up
Speaker 3: being a pretty key factor and why he ultimately picked
Speaker 3: the Dodgers.
Speaker 4: Hey, Jack, With all that being said, how how real
Speaker 4: do you believe the other two teams had a shot
Speaker 4: when it's all said, given the history, given the players
Speaker 4: that we talked about, given the relationships communication with Sazaki
Speaker 4: and Yamamoto and Otani, the Dodgers as a whole, as
Speaker 4: an organization, because a lot of people believe in and
Speaker 4: like you talked about, we talked about that that this
Speaker 4: may have been done before, and it was like, you know,
Speaker 4: Dodgers had had a handshake deal in the past. How
Speaker 4: much do you believe that that the other team's actually
Speaker 4: had a shot to land him?
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like they felt pretty confident to
Speaker 3: various levels. I think the Padres all along like their chances.
Speaker 3: Mike Schilp during the winter meetings spoke pretty bluntly about
Speaker 3: you know, I really think that we have a good
Speaker 3: shot with Rokie, and obviously the Darvish piece of it
Speaker 3: fueled a lot of their their optimism as well. And
Speaker 3: then with the Blue Jays, you know, that was the
Speaker 3: surprise team included in his list of finalists. They felt
Speaker 3: strong enough to, you know, a few hours before he
Speaker 3: announced his decision to go out and acquire a bad
Speaker 3: contract in Miles Straw to be able to get a
Speaker 3: couple million more in signing bonus money to try to
Speaker 3: to woo him with. So, you know, I think the
Speaker 3: actions of the teams kind of speak to the fact that, Wow,
Speaker 3: a lot of people in the sport always kind of
Speaker 3: thought the Dodgers would end up with Roki Sasaki at
Speaker 3: various points of this process, I think other teams did
Speaker 3: feel confident or at least did feel like they had
Speaker 3: a real shot at getting him, And on the flip side,
Speaker 3: you know, people with the Dodgers were ever certain that
Speaker 3: they were getting him. I think kind of similar to
Speaker 3: how Shoheo Tani's free agency played out last year, where
Speaker 3: they always liked their chances and you know, if you're
Speaker 3: reading some of the Tea Lea's it might have looked good,
Speaker 3: but they didn't know up until the very end, until
Speaker 3: they made his decision that they were getting him for sure.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it. At different points of all this,
Speaker 3: there were teams that felt like they had a real
Speaker 3: shot at getting him, but all along, Again, there was
Speaker 3: a reason why so many people thought the Dodgers were
Speaker 3: favorites in this, and I think ultimately why he ended
Speaker 3: up being in l A.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were getting them all along, Jack, should we
Speaker 1: slice it and dice it and just get right to it.
Speaker 1: They were getting them all.
Speaker 3: Along, right, and we all had got to sit on
Speaker 3: the Miles Straw contract. Now, Like I was texting the
Speaker 3: people in the industry about that, and it's just you know,
Speaker 3: at that time, there was a lot of like surprise that, wow,
Speaker 3: Toronto's doing this. This must mean that either they think
Speaker 3: they're getting him or they think they might not be,
Speaker 3: but they still have a shot too. So you know,
Speaker 3: I think some of those things I think did surprise
Speaker 3: people that maybe this was a little bit more of
Speaker 3: a competitive process than they were figuring. Even if you know,
Speaker 3: he ends up with the Dodgers in the end.
Speaker 1: Two things about that, First, why you got a dog
Speaker 1: Miles Straw. Maybe Toronto really loved them, Maybe that's the guy.
Speaker 1: And second of all, maybe yeah, And second of all,
Speaker 1: how about this, Maybe it's the surprise in people the
Speaker 1: Blue Jays maybe it surprised them, but nobody else because
Speaker 1: you know something, nobody takes their money. Think about it,
Speaker 1: the Tati debacle of last year. The people there hate
Speaker 1: him and he didn't do anything to him. They're gonna
Speaker 1: hate Somezaki now too. They're gonna hate him now.
Speaker 3: I would imagine, yeah, I would imagine. Maybe not at
Speaker 3: the level like we go back to the Hockey Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame. I don't think he's gonna be on like
Speaker 3: the don't let this guy in list of the other
Speaker 3: you know, shoplifters or whatever.
Speaker 2: But but yes, that was That was.
Speaker 3: One of the subplots of all is like the poor
Speaker 3: poor Blue Jay fans who had to endure all of
Speaker 3: this and back to back years to watch these players
Speaker 3: end up in l A.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what, Jack, just tell everybody we're
Speaker 1: sick of their whining. How do you like that? Let
Speaker 1: everybody know we are We're not putting up with it.
Speaker 1: Jack enough, great job, man, you you you you're all
Speaker 1: over that just terrific work.
Speaker 3: As always appreciate it, guys, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you. There was our buddy, uh Jack
Speaker 1: Harris at the times. He really does a good job.
Speaker 1: He really does.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he does.
Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, well, there might have been a surprise.
Speaker 1: You know, people might think, hey, there might be something here,
Speaker 1: maybe in Toronto. I don't know. Maybe Dean Spanos thought
Speaker 1: the Chargers were gonna win. Maybe, but they weren't. And
Speaker 1: at the end of it, when you and do still
Speaker 1: got here. But at the end of it, when you
Speaker 1: look at it and you just look at it, there
Speaker 1: was one place he was coming. I kept saying that, yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know what, two friends on that if if
Speaker 4: he didn't end up and say he ends up in
Speaker 4: Toronto or he's in San Diego, it would have been
Speaker 4: one of those God, I could have been a Dodger,
Speaker 4: you said, even outside of it, yes, outside people, what
Speaker 4: are you doing?
Speaker 2: What are you doing? You know what I mean? It
Speaker 2: would be like what are you doing?
Speaker 4: If people that don't even know baseball be like, wait,
Speaker 4: let me get this straight. You got a chance to
Speaker 4: be a Dodger, a Padre, or a Blue Jay, and
Speaker 4: you chose the Padres, and you chose you chose the
Speaker 4: Blue Jays over the Dodgers to play on that team
Speaker 4: that's gonna be in the world series every single year
Speaker 4: and as the best organization. What come on, what gives what?
Speaker 1: Gif? Come on?
Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on, man, come on, who's got
Speaker 2: a gun to your head? Come on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why it made zero sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it made really Really did the other teams believe
Speaker 4: that they were actually in the mix? Did they really
Speaker 4: actually believe that they had a chance.
Speaker 1: Well, Mike Schild during the winter meetings, the povery manager,
Speaker 1: we think we're really in it. Well you're really not.
Speaker 4: You're done, and you never really wear right and you
Speaker 4: never really wear right.
Speaker 1: You never were in that. Look, every team should do
Speaker 1: whatever they can and sign whoever they can and be
Speaker 1: the best they can. But what are we doing? It's
Speaker 1: like you said, Rodney, if you don't sign here with
Speaker 1: Otani and yeah, all of the stuff. People were saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to live in the shadow.
Speaker 1: We can't have that. That's not who he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Come on, you would have for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. You'd have to answer that
Speaker 1: question exactly what were you thinking?
Speaker 4: What were you thinking as you watched the Dodgers when
Speaker 4: World series after World series go to LEDCs and all
Speaker 4: those things and be on TV every single week. You're
Speaker 4: gonna have to sit back and go I turned that down.
Speaker 4: I turned that down. What am I thinking?
Speaker 1: Right? There was just family witness on him. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no way, and that's why he ended up here. I
Speaker 1: heard something last night and it was a perception I
Speaker 1: think many people have of the Dodgers. We're gonna let
Speaker 1: you hear that next. So how do people around the
Speaker 1: country feel about the Dodgers and what they're doing. Well,
Speaker 1: we see social media and we read the stories. That's
Speaker 1: some audio that we're gonna let you hear next.
Speaker 4: Come on, yoh, it's a home dak Rodney, Pete Rogan
Speaker 4: And unfortunately there are some a new fire that broke
Speaker 4: out north on the five off the five Stag Lake area.
Speaker 4: Be careful if you're traveling north, going home or wherever
Speaker 4: you're going, please please, please be careful.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in the Oxnard, Ventura area,
Speaker 1: but my son Josh is out there. Showed some video
Speaker 1: and those guys look nasty out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah they are, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So be careful. All right. So look, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get too personal. Uh, it's a story about plastic
Speaker 1: surgeon Chen Wine.
Speaker 5: On.
Speaker 1: I think we all know who he is. Accomplished in
Speaker 1: his field of endeavor. Yeah, yeah, uh okay, show a
Speaker 1: hands who's out of a sectomy looking around checking it out.
Speaker 1: Nothing to be shy about. I mean I had one
Speaker 1: years ago. I actually went on the air at fifteen
Speaker 1: forty to take it during the procedure and describe what
Speaker 1: was going on. Sure, it's not the most pleasant thing
Speaker 1: you'll ever go through. But if you have a trained
Speaker 1: professional handling and you know you'd make that decision, you
Speaker 1: make the decision. Yeah, the one thing I would think,
Speaker 1: the one thing if you have someone operating on that
Speaker 1: type of equipment, they need to be very skilled, very focused.
Speaker 1: Better be and there's very not a lot of room
Speaker 1: or margin of error. You know, one thing the wrong way,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go south on you, and that's gonna be bad.
Speaker 5: South on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for any number of reasons. Well, look doctor Wangong
Speaker 1: plastic surgeon again, doctor win On, win On on On,
Speaker 1: I think you said wang On, Well that's what I
Speaker 1: thought it was originally, which would have made it funnier,
Speaker 1: but it's win On. Anyway, he decided that he was
Speaker 1: gonna have a viseect to me okay, and then he decided, look,
Speaker 1: this should be an educational process. So what I'm going
Speaker 1: to do is I'm actually going to record it and
Speaker 1: then what I'm going to do is play it for people,
Speaker 1: because there's nothing to be embarrassed about or anything. This
Speaker 1: is good. It's good that people know how to do it.
Speaker 2: What do your own Well, we'll get to me.
Speaker 1: Right, okay, it's good that people know the procedure right,
Speaker 1: and the procedure right. I'm going to put that up
Speaker 1: informational informational sure, like going to Harvard Med.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: The issue became he wasn't really having a vseectomy. He
Speaker 1: was giving himself av sectimy. He himself was performing the
Speaker 1: vasectomy on him which to me right off the bat
Speaker 1: says he might be one of the most flexible people
Speaker 1: you'll ever meet in your life.
Speaker 4: At least, how do you do that on your self?
Speaker 4: As you mentioned Fred, first of all, you got to
Speaker 4: be the most flexible person in the world. But then
Speaker 4: it begs the question as to why why would you
Speaker 4: want to perform this procedure on yourself.
Speaker 1: It shows the surgeon in his chair performing the operation
Speaker 1: on himself as he casually talks viewers through the process
Speaker 1: as if he was doing a makeup too.
Speaker 4: Total is he trying to make to think that people
Speaker 4: can Hey, listen, folks, you can do this yourself if
Speaker 4: you just follow this video.
Speaker 1: Well apparently he thinks that now here's what you need
Speaker 1: if you want to try that. First, you need some uh,
Speaker 1: you need something to anesthesize your genitals and numb them.
Speaker 1: So he applied that cream to himself. Then he used
Speaker 1: a scalpel and a surgical clamp and went to work.
Speaker 1: My god, suit your death thing up ten to thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like making a quick meal. You know,
Speaker 1: you look online and I like to make your chicken.
Speaker 1: It is a quick snip snip. Yeah, I'd like to
Speaker 1: make chicken minutes.
Speaker 5: Is that what we said?
Speaker 2: Ten to thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I'd like to make chicken cord on blue in twenty minutes. Well,
Speaker 1: this is the same thing. I'd like to give myself
Speaker 1: a vasectomy in twenty minutes. Well, this guy makes it simple.
Speaker 4: No need to go to the hospital, go see it
Speaker 4: surgeon or anything like that.
Speaker 5: Just do it yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't handle it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like going to the low social
Speaker 2: media has really ruined the world.
Speaker 4: Because you know, you know, there will be a number
Speaker 4: of people that try to do this themselves.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that that well you're gonna what are you
Speaker 1: gonna see yourself?
Speaker 4: Well, but if somebody tries this based on his tutorial.
Speaker 1: Well he's got to tell it goes wrong, do it.
Speaker 1: He's just saying you could do it like this. Now
Speaker 1: here's one thing that I didn't mention. Am I bad?
Speaker 1: You know, things could go wrong, even in a short
Speaker 1: procedure like this, Something could happen. There was one point
Speaker 1: in time where uh he looked to be an excruciating
Speaker 1: pain you think, listen, I don't question the work of
Speaker 1: doctor Winnock excruciating pain, but what he did he leaned
Speaker 1: back in his chair in apparent pain. Then he gathered
Speaker 1: his tool and resume the operation. I'm not sure exactly
Speaker 1: what they were referring.
Speaker 4: To as tools. And this is all visual online. You
Speaker 4: can go check this out, yeah.
Speaker 1: Kevin, see if you can find it.
Speaker 6: How about you? How about you go find it?
Speaker 5: Fred?
Speaker 6: I'm okayikes, you have all the information that you need
Speaker 6: in the article. You have his name.
Speaker 1: I want to see it now. I'm gonna look at it.
Speaker 5: I really want to see it.
Speaker 2: If you're a male, do you really want to see that?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up. By the way, most commenters
Speaker 1: praise the self sufficient surgeon for his bravery.
Speaker 2: I bet they did. Glad it ain't me what they said,
Speaker 2: better you than me?
Speaker 1: Fred, Well, all right, during the break, I will look
Speaker 1: up on the I'm gonna look it up right now, Dan,
Speaker 1: like you joined us. Next we'll talk about the Lakers
Speaker 1: and why is everybody mad a Jeanie Buss. We'll try
Speaker 1: to figure that out.
Speaker 4: It is a hump day. Wow, well spoken hump day.
Speaker 4: Rodney beat Fred Rogan on a Wednesday. Be safe out there.
Speaker 4: Before we went to break, Fred said he sent us something.
Speaker 1: To take you guys see it. I tried to see it.
Speaker 1: It's the guy that gave himself a voseectomy. Okay, And
Speaker 1: what do you want to say about it?
Speaker 5: Fred?
Speaker 1: All right, well, now you get to see it. And
Speaker 1: if you look, there's a point where there's some other
Speaker 1: hands in there. And that's what I said, and everybody went,
Speaker 1: that's not right, but it is. Kevin. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're in there, but if you saw it, you
Speaker 1: can see there's another set of hands helping this guy
Speaker 1: give himself the sec to me.
Speaker 2: Which you would think there would be.
Speaker 4: Even if he's doing a surgery and it's not on himself,
Speaker 4: there would always be an assistant or number two performing
Speaker 4: the surgery with him.
Speaker 6: Which was my thought, Rodney, is usually no one getting
Speaker 6: you to perform surgery or procedure literally by themselves. There's
Speaker 6: always somebody in there helping out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some capacity, but he is clearly, you know, making
Speaker 4: some incisions and cuts and doing something.
Speaker 6: The other set of hands could easily be handing them tools, Yeah,
Speaker 6: looking at certain vitals or earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoever it may be.
Speaker 6: It's notations that you tried to make it out to me. Oh,
Speaker 6: there's another set of hands in there, and Lord knows
Speaker 6: what they're doing down there. I know what you're trying
Speaker 6: to do there, Fred.
Speaker 1: Why why would you even say I tried to make
Speaker 1: a solation? You said you did? You did, because you did,
Speaker 1: you did. You took it that way. I just said,
Speaker 1: there's another set of hands in there. Of course there is,
Speaker 1: And what surgery is there not going to be multiple
Speaker 1: people in a surger. Even if you're doing the bulk
Speaker 1: of the work on yourself, there's always going to be
Speaker 1: someone else in the room, right that I'm saying it
Speaker 1: still could have done it all himself even though there's
Speaker 1: someone else in the room. It didn't look like those
Speaker 1: hands grab something.
Speaker 4: Who knows what they fred. There's always assistance. If somebody
Speaker 4: gives open heart surgery, there's a surgeon that does it,
Speaker 4: but there's probably ten other people in the room that
Speaker 4: are doing in other parts of that particular surgery. He
Speaker 4: is the head surgeon and does you know the bulk
Speaker 4: of the work, But there are other people in the
Speaker 4: room that you know, will seal up or give me gauz.
Speaker 4: I need I need water here, I need this there,
Speaker 4: give me this instrument. There's always going to be that,
Speaker 4: whether you're doing it on yourself or not, doesn't mean
Speaker 4: that that's not the lead guy or lead person doing
Speaker 4: the surgery.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: From the story, I took it that it was a
Speaker 1: very primive UH procedure and that he himself was in
Speaker 1: I will by himself.
Speaker 5: Why would you take that that way?
Speaker 1: Well, because he performed it on himself. I mean I
Speaker 1: thought it was the Old West, like he bit into
Speaker 1: a piece.
Speaker 2: I would you think it was from the Old West.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like this one man performing surgery
Speaker 1: on himself, like doc and gunsmoke used to perform surgery
Speaker 1: on people. We got to take that bullet out. Here's
Speaker 1: a shot of bourbon butt on this piece of wood,
Speaker 1: and let's go to work.
Speaker 5: See what your mind is. That's that's that's.
Speaker 2: The problem, Kevin.
Speaker 1: You didn't get that in same impression.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'll be honest with you, I didn't really
Speaker 6: think that deeply about it. But if you would have
Speaker 6: told me hands, I was like, yeah, I could have
Speaker 6: assumed that he would have helpers as great as Neil
Speaker 6: elatroj he has. I'm sure he has people in there
Speaker 6: helping him out when he's performing Tommy John Surgery's fret not.
Speaker 2: But this guy said it was all about Neil Latrize.
Speaker 2: It's not about it's not about anybody else. That's certain.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say the ten people that were in the room.
Speaker 4: When when doctor Neil Ellatriz does Tommy John on somebody,
Speaker 4: it's just says Neil Elatrize performed this.
Speaker 6: Because he's doing the bulk of the work. He's the
Speaker 6: if you want to call it an art or whatever
Speaker 6: you want to call it, he's the one doing it.
Speaker 6: And I am to believe that this gentleman, whose name
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna attempt because I don't want to butcher
Speaker 6: it did the bulk of the work on his own,
Speaker 6: and he had assistance in there helping him out.
Speaker 1: Fred Well Chen meng Long, I don't think. Well, all right,
Speaker 1: isn't that what it is?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Jesus, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know why this went so south. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, if anybody has.
Speaker 2: Any your mind is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about. I just
Speaker 1: told you either.
Speaker 5: I don't either.
Speaker 1: I told you a story to see guy does it
Speaker 1: on himself.
Speaker 4: Now you're trying to vilify the guy because he happens
Speaker 4: to have a nurse in or someone else in the
Speaker 4: room with him.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what those other hands were doing. Look,
Speaker 1: if anybody wants to discuss this more, you can come
Speaker 1: to Spotlight twenty nine Casino on Friday. That's where we'll
Speaker 1: be doing the show from Spotlight twenty nine Casino and Coachella.
Speaker 1: That's Eric Dickerson's favorite spot in Nicolachella Valley. And here's
Speaker 1: what you do. You get out here about eleven fifty.
Speaker 1: You can get out here earlier, that's fine, but get
Speaker 1: out here by eleven fifty, settle in for the show.
Speaker 1: We are giving away prizes like you can't believe Opening
Speaker 1: Day tickets to see Opening Week tickets to see the
Speaker 1: Boys in Blue, and you will determine along with us
Speaker 1: what game you'll go to. That's pretty cool. We're giving
Speaker 1: away assigned Eric Dickerson Jersey, assigned Christian or Koyer, Jersey.
Speaker 1: We're giving away a fifty five inch weesting House TV,
Speaker 1: and like a hundred bucks or two hundred bucks, so
Speaker 1: you'll make a couple of bucks while you're there. We
Speaker 1: have food, we have drink, and we'll cover it all.
Speaker 6: Not giving away VSSEECTI meies. I do want to make
Speaker 6: sure you point that out.
Speaker 5: Ah, I hope not.
Speaker 6: Although if we're up to Fred, we read is not.
Speaker 2: Fred is not performing the surgery either.
Speaker 6: Oh, Fred would wants somebody who wants a vasectomy. We'll
Speaker 6: perform it live on the air. That's what Fred wants.
Speaker 1: Kevin. When I worked at it was the.
Speaker 6: Ticket, Yes, the ticket where I still never got my
Speaker 6: shot glass that I want on your show back then.
Speaker 1: But it's in the mail.
Speaker 6: The mail, sure it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still haven't gotten it.
Speaker 6: Granted I wasn't old enough to drink when I want it,
Speaker 6: but that's beside the point.
Speaker 1: Anybody that listened to that station at whatever age drink
Speaker 1: they needed to to get through that fifteen forty the ticket.
Speaker 1: That's when I had of a sectomy, and I when
Speaker 1: I They did it while I was on the air,
Speaker 1: so I talked about it during the procedure because I
Speaker 1: thought it would be educational, but I did not perform
Speaker 1: my own vasectomy. Now, if anybody want, okay, and maybe
Speaker 1: this can this could happen, but I'm gonna need some
Speaker 1: advanced notice, like I'll need to be notified today if
Speaker 1: somebody wants to get a vasectomy on the show, I'll
Speaker 1: find a doctor in Indio and maybe we'll do it live,
Speaker 1: because if you need a vseectamy, you would drive to
Speaker 1: Indio to get it, so we could do that. Would
Speaker 1: you be up with that, Kevin.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry I suggested it jokingly. Oh my pick it
Speaker 6: up and run with it.
Speaker 2: We are off the rails, all right.
Speaker 1: Anyway, come to Spotlight twenty nine Casino, Rodney. You know
Speaker 1: you're looking forward to it.
Speaker 5: I am. I am very much looking forward to it
Speaker 5: so we can change the topic and subject.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Brett and visecon to me,
Speaker 2: was this a late night thing that Fred you were
Speaker 2: scrolling and you saw this guy do this.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you bring it up. Kevin found it and
Speaker 1: sent it to me. It's Kevin's mind, not mine.
Speaker 6: This is true. I did find the story and put
Speaker 6: it in there.
Speaker 5: With this brand with it.
Speaker 6: And I said, as we're using that today, I knew
Speaker 6: you would because I know how your mind works. For
Speaker 6: I like, here's the Fred Rogan special right here.
Speaker 1: Kevin said this morning, what about the guy with the
Speaker 1: visection that's in We're using that one hundred percent because
Speaker 1: that appeals to our audience because men can identify with that.
Speaker 1: That's why, because it's it's a common occurrence for guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, doing it for yourself and then and then
Speaker 4: the guy does it for himself. Instead of praising the guy, Wow,
Speaker 4: that's pretty brave to do your doctor, you do your
Speaker 4: own disectomy.
Speaker 2: You you criticize him for having an assistant or somebody else.
Speaker 4: In the room, just in the case something may go wrong,
Speaker 4: God forbid, he has somebody else in the room.
Speaker 1: I did not criticize him for that. I did not
Speaker 1: call him fraud.
Speaker 2: You called him all the kind of liar.
Speaker 1: He didn't do this, said any of that.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I never said a word of that. The thing I
Speaker 4: did said he didn't do it by himself. Why are
Speaker 4: there other hands in there? I don't understand. There's no
Speaker 4: way he should have a nurse an assistant in the
Speaker 4: room on a major surgery.
Speaker 2: How dare he?
Speaker 1: That's not exactly what I said. What I said was
Speaker 1: I think I see another pair of hands in there
Speaker 1: grabbing something. That's what I said, not criticizing the guy.
Speaker 1: But if you say it and he didn't do it
Speaker 1: on his own, well he did on him, He didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't do it on his own. There was somebody
Speaker 1: else in there grabbing something, so he didn't do it. Now,
Speaker 1: he did do it to himself, but he didn't do
Speaker 1: it on his own. Does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I didn't think so. Uh okay, so earlier in the show.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, one other thing, one other thing
Speaker 1: about our weekend. Rodney here and everybody come out to
Speaker 1: Spotlight twenty nine on Friday. Do you think yes or no?
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson will take us to dinner tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Do I think yes?
Speaker 2: Yes? Why would you think not? Why are you posing
Speaker 2: that question?
Speaker 1: Because until yesterday I had no idea if he was
Speaker 1: even thinking about it.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a foregone conclusion that there was going to
Speaker 4: be dinner Thursday night. He knew that, and he said
Speaker 4: it such in a matter of fact way. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: we got dinner Thursday night. We got it got well, yeah,
Speaker 4: we got dinner.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I was just trying to figure it out
Speaker 1: to see you know if you believed that it was
Speaker 1: one hundred percent on, because if it is, you got
Speaker 1: to leave early this year. When the show's over, you
Speaker 1: got to head out here.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I do. It's going to take me eight
Speaker 5: hours instead of two.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly how long it'll take if you
Speaker 1: leave it three. You want to leave at three thirty,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly when you'll get here. I know
Speaker 1: exactly what time it'll be. If you leave at three thirty, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you will be here between six forty five and seven o'clock. Okay,
Speaker 1: because you will be leaving at the world's worst.
Speaker 2: Time, the world's worst time absence.
Speaker 1: Yes, if you want to come, but you don't want
Speaker 1: to hit traffic. You have to leave at seven o
Speaker 1: five and you will be there at nine fifteen.
Speaker 5: Ah heil. We have to figure this out.
Speaker 6: Fred wants you to be late so we can just
Speaker 6: take your plate. That's what it is. We know Allhamas works.
Speaker 6: Fred says, free meal is we Yeah, that's that's what's
Speaker 6: going on in Friends with Mind right now.
Speaker 4: And we have we have rooms for tomorrow night because
Speaker 4: last year was a debacle a little bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, don't let's not relive that, Rodney, you do. Let's
Speaker 1: not relive that.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, we'll chick in with that off air. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, you you will have a room. I don't know
Speaker 1: where it is, by the way, I don't eat it,
Speaker 1: but you will have a place to stick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: All right, so we got that covered. I want to
Speaker 1: see everybody. And you can go to the website M
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Speaker 1: It's good to register and get on the guest list.
Speaker 1: Even if you don't get registered, you can still come out,
Speaker 1: but try to register because that will allow us to
Speaker 1: figure out how many people we have to do something
Speaker 1: special for and whatever that may be. If you register,
Speaker 1: that will happen for you, so we'd love to see
Speaker 1: it on Friday. Okay, one more segment, and your Southern
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Speaker 1: Come on, let's wind it down, Rodney Pete phrase affecting me, Rogan, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got to get out of here pretty quick. Roki
Speaker 1: Sazaki's news conference starts at the top of the hour.
Speaker 1: Petros and Money. He'll jump aboard. They'll guide you through that.
Speaker 1: David Vassay is out at the media's first opportunity and
Speaker 1: mass to talk to Sazaki find out why he made
Speaker 1: the decisions he did. I can tell you why he
Speaker 1: made the decision because it was the right decision and
Speaker 1: the only.
Speaker 4: Only decision, the only decision he could make. Freddy, you
Speaker 4: know that, we know that we're talking about. So we
Speaker 4: just conducted the whole news conference. That's it, because there's
Speaker 4: really nothing else to say. Listen, Listen, Toronto, San Diego, listen.
Speaker 4: Let's be honest. You guys have never had a shot.
Speaker 4: I did that just to drag this thing out and
Speaker 4: make it somewhat you know, entertaining, But you never really
Speaker 4: had a shot. I was always going to be a Dodger.
Speaker 4: I knew that three years ago. I was gonna be
Speaker 4: a Dodger, right, you know what I mean. You guys
Speaker 4: fail for that. You fail for that trick. You fail
Speaker 4: for the okie dope, the banana and the tailpike, all
Speaker 4: of that you fail for it. Shame on you, and
Speaker 4: I can't wait to face your both.
Speaker 1: Perfect spot like twenty nine cons, you know, Friday and Coachella.
Speaker 1: Come on out, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin, appreciate it. Rodney,
Speaker 1: we get him again tomorrow, you sir,