WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:04.000 All right, we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:08.080 a five seventy LA Sports. A reminder the media in 3 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:12.320 Los Angeles will officially meet Roki Sazaki three o'clock. We 4 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:14.480 will have that for you here on the radio station, 5 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:17.199 and David Vasse will be out there joining us. 6 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:17.480 Now. 7 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:20.160 Our dear friend from the LA Times who just does 8 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:23.879 a terrific job every day, Jack Harris, who covers the Dodgers, 9 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:25.359 and Jack welcome back to the show. 10 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:27.320 Hey, how you guys doing. 11 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.320 We're doing well. Jack, you nailed it this morning. What 12 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:34.280 a great piece on what went on behind the scenes 13 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:37.759 and the recruiting that went on to get Sazaki first. 14 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:39.640 How long did it take you to find all that 15 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:40.719 information out. 16 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:46.119 In real time? Probably not as fast as I would like. 17 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:50.320 There is a lot of it wasn't quite the level 18 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:54.880 of Otani free agency secrecy. But yeah, I think teams 19 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:58.679 were being pretty cautious about sharing, you know, too much 20 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:02.439 about what was going on and their respective recruiting processes 21 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:05.519 and how they were trying to make their pitches for 22 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:09.319 Aki Susaki. But I think afterwards, you know, obviously people 23 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:12.159 around the Dodgers involved in their pitch process were pretty 24 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:15.040 pleased with how it went down, with with the message 25 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:18.959 that they got across, and you know, ultimately being able 26 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:22.079 to land this picture that they've coveted for the last 27 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:22.840 several years. 28 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:27.799 Here and Jack, let's be let's be honest. The Dodgers 29 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:31.760 have with this process did everything above board. You know, 30 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:34.239 there are people out there that are suggesting that that 31 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.560 they didn't. And there's you know, there's other folks that 32 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:41.799 uh staying there manipulating the rules of of MLB with 33 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:44.159 the deferral payments and all that stuff, to the point 34 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:48.159 where there's a bill in the state trying to trying 35 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.560 to stop what the Dodgers have done. But they've done 36 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:56.439 everything under the rules of MLB. But this happens. This 37 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.920 happens all the time if you're whether you're a four 38 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:04.040 player or not. But there it happens. Recruitment happens with guys. 39 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.400 If you're familiar with somebody, you can say, yeah, hey, 40 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:08.800 I'm gonna let's go to dinner. If you have mookie 41 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:10.639 bets and you got a buddy who's really really good, 42 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:12.719 you gotta go to dinner and say, hey, why don't 43 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.800 you come be a Dodger. That's there's nothing wrong with that, 44 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:18.759 why are people so up and arms? Is it because 45 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.080 it's the Dodgers And obviously the Yankees went through this too, 46 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:26.960 But but now that the Dodgers have spent money, people 47 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.520 are jealous. Other owners are jealous now because it feels 48 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:33.560 like it's coming for the other owners. Yeah. 49 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.479 I mean, I think generally this offseason, when it's come 50 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.520 to the money the Dodgers have spent, the way they've 51 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:42.439 used these big deferral, big signing bonus contracts to land 52 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:45.759 star players, it's created some consternation around the league about, 53 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:48.199 you know, can anybody compete with them? And I think 54 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.520 most people would point back and say, look, what the 55 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.159 Dodgers you're doing is is what you'd expect a team 56 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:54.879 like the Dodgers to do that makes as much money 57 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:57.520 and has as many resources as they do. And it's 58 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.759 up to the other teams to find ways to compete 59 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:01.719 with them. And then when it came to the Roki 60 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:06.080 Sasaki free agency specifically, you know, this is something that 61 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:08.960 I know obviously has been talked about a lot publicly 62 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:11.080 over the last couple of weeks, this idea that maybe 63 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.280 the Dodgers had a handshake deal, maybe they had some 64 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:16.680 sort of advantage in this. This is something that people 65 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:19.919 around the sport had been speculating about, even going back 66 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.159 to the last offseason, when it looked like for a minute, 67 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.319 Roki Sasaki might come over to the big leagues last year. 68 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:30.960 And yeah, to some people, there was this idea that, 69 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.240 you know, the Dodgers were going to get him, not 70 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.879 just because they were the most logical landing place and 71 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:39.719 the best fit, but because maybe something below board had happened. Now, 72 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:45.560 before MLB even approved Roki Sasaki's posting to where he 73 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.080 would be allowed to sign with big league teams, they 74 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:51.879 did investigate some of this stuff. They didn't find any 75 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:56.000 evidence to corroborate it. They even poked around with Sasaki's 76 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:59.199 Japanese team to make because obviously they didn't get it's 77 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.479 like a one point six million dollar posting fee out 78 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.199 of this, to make sure there was no you known, 79 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:07.199 illegal kickback scheme or something like that. So there's been 80 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:09.639 a lot of chatter about this, but as far as 81 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:11.479 you know, people with the league are concerned, they haven't 82 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:13.840 seen any evidence or anything else to suggest that this 83 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.279 didn't play out in a fair and proper way. I 84 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:19.319 think when you look at how it did play out, 85 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:23.399 you know, because Rokie, in consultation with MLB, ended up 86 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.120 signing in the twenty twenty five signing period. It put 87 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:28.639 the Dodgers at a little bit of a financial disadvantage because 88 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.600 they had the smallest signing pool with which to try 89 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:33.639 to pursue him out of any team in the big leagues. 90 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:35.879 And obviously we're able to overcome that in a couple 91 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.399 other ways. And you know, in this situation, money wasn't 92 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:41.839 the number one factor. So yeah, this has been something 93 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.319 that's been talked about a lot, with this specific situation 94 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.439 and then against the backdrop of all the other spending 95 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:48.600 that the Dodgers are doing. But you know, if you 96 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:50.480 talk to people with the Dodgers will say, look, we're 97 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.720 just I think Andrew Freeman said it earlier this offseason. 98 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.199 We look at this as rewarding our fan base and 99 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.040 taking the resources that we have and the money they've 100 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.920 made off of all their on field success and trying 101 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.240 to reinvest it back in the team to be as 102 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:05.199 good as they can be moving into the future. 103 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.079 Jack Harriss at the Times is with us, all right, Jack, 104 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:10.800 if you would through your reporting, because on that piece 105 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:14.160 was great today let's talk about the initial meeting and 106 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.240 what you learned was part of the homework assignment for 107 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:20.720 each team, and then the second meeting when players were 108 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:22.560 allowed because you wrote about them both. 109 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:27.519 Yeah, so I think the Dodger pitch in this situation 110 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:32.279 kind of played out in two ways. There was this focus, 111 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.160 especially in the initial meeting, on you know, pitching development, 112 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:40.279 player development, what teams could do for Roki. He assigned them, Yes, 113 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.600 this homework assignment now as his agent termed it, which 114 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:47.439 is basically asking teams to identify why they thought his 115 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.279 past ball velocity dropped off a little bit last year 116 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.759 from you know, ninety eight ninety nine outs like ninety 117 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.079 six ninety seven, and what they would do to try 118 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:57.680 to fix it. This is something that the Dodgers felt, 119 00:05:57.680 --> 00:05:59.319 as I wrote about, like, was kind of in their 120 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:02.079 sweet spot. For all the problems that they've had with 121 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.120 pitching injuries, they are really good at helping pitchers develop 122 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.519 stuff and maximize their talent and be the best versions 123 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.439 of themselves. So that was always going to be something 124 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.399 that in addition to you know, the prestige of playing 125 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.279 for the Dodgers and the chance to compete for a 126 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.639 World Series and all the other selling points that they had. 127 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.199 I think there was a pretty big focus on, Hey, 128 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.959 if you want to become the kind of player you 129 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:26.399 think you can be, we are the best place for 130 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.839 you to do that. Then that was all backed up 131 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.240 by the actual messaging from the players, you know. Some 132 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:36.439 of this started with Shoheyo Tani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto's personal 133 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:38.839 relationships with them, as I wrote about, like they took 134 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:41.759 them out to a dinner early in the process. Tyler 135 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:44.680 Glasnow talked about the message he sent Roki during this, 136 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.480 which was, hey, if you you know, whatever your motivations are, 137 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.040 the Dodgers of the place that can help you, you know, 138 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.120 achieve everything you want to. And then yeah, last week 139 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.439 the team had their second meeting with him. He granted 140 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:59.959 meetings to his three finalists where he went in person 141 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:04.639 to see each of them, and then the Dodgers, casey, 142 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:06.959 because of the renovations going out of the stadium, they 143 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.040 had it at one of their co owners' houses. They 144 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.399 had a sushi dinner, but the big crux of that 145 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.079 event was having a handful of players there in person. 146 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:16.279 You know. 147 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:19.000 Mookie Beds stood up and gave this long speech about 148 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.079 the special place that Los Angeles and the Dodgers have become, 149 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:25.360 you know, in the second half of his career. Will 150 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.959 Smith was there talking about the pitcher catcher dynamics and 151 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:31.560 you know, all of that goes into that with the team. 152 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:33.879 The team got videos from a lot of the players 153 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:37.160 who couldn't attend in person talking about, you know, how 154 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:39.319 much they've enjoyed the Dodgers, why they thought it was 155 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.680 a great place, you know, telling him how excited they 156 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.680 were at the possibility of playing with him. And I 157 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.519 think the people around the team that were involved in 158 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:49.120 this process, it was that ability to take what they 159 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.680 felt like was a strong message on paper and then 160 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:54.439 have it backed up by so many star players and 161 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.759 big voices, and then obviously sho Hee Otani himself, who 162 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:02.480 was the person who could most mostly relate to the 163 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.199 experience that Sasaki was going through this in this entire 164 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.279 posting process. People around the team thought that that really 165 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.240 helped their their message land that it resonated with Roki 166 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.839 you Muki that is in Japan right now on a 167 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.759 promotional tour actually, but was talking about this with reporters 168 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:19.920 there and said, you know, even during that dinner he 169 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:23.639 could just tell how much Roki, you know, is going 170 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.360 to enjoy playing with Otani and Yamamoto, and I think 171 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:28.319 especially with Otani, that was a question coming into this 172 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:30.480 right that Rokie Susaki said, I want to be the 173 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:32.919 number one player in the world, and it was fair 174 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.399 to wonder did he feel like he could do that 175 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:37.600 if he's playing with the current best player in the 176 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.519 world and show hey Otani and maybe being in his 177 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.039 shadows someone and being around all the attention that comes 178 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:44.559 with it, and I think being able to have all 179 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:48.000 of the players help deliver that message, you know, attest 180 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.360 to the kind of place that the Dodgers organization is 181 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:53.840 to play again to people around the team. They felt 182 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:55.639 like that was a really big part of helping them 183 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:59.039 land their message and ultimately why Rokey Susaki is going 184 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.159 to be introduced here in a couple hours at Dodger Stadium. 185 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:03.559 Jack, do you know anything about who was at the 186 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.759 other meetings for the other clubs or how those went. 187 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.559 Yeah, they had players there too, I think obviously with 188 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.279 the padres, you know, there are videos of some players 189 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.519 being around. There was the the U Darvish connection that 190 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.080 he had with Roki Saki is something that you know, 191 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.000 a lot of people in the sport, especially as it 192 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:23.399 got closer to his, you know, his decision. There was 193 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.639 a lot of buzz about the Padres feeling confident, feeling 194 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:29.639 like that Darvish relationship in particular, you know, was going 195 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.320 to be a plus for them. It seems like, especially 196 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:34.879 among the three finalists, each of them you know, were 197 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:39.879 able to present something that really struck Roki Soak. You know, 198 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:42.120 obviously he hasn't talked about this publicly yet. We'll probably 199 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:45.240 learn more about, you know, what some of the de 200 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:49.039 factors were for him at the end. But when it 201 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:52.480 came to the Dodgers again, like on paper, they checked 202 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:55.360 so many boxes for what it seemed like would matter 203 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:59.480 to Roki Ssaki in his future. And yeah, when you 204 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:02.039 can back up up with just the star power that 205 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.679 the Dodgers have, obviously, the players that already knew him personally, 206 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.600 all the other big names that could talk about, you know, 207 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:11.960 why they've enjoyed playing for the team so much. You know, 208 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.200 it's easy when you kind of look back at all 209 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.799 of this on totality now to see, yeah, that that 210 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.440 probably makes for a pretty compelling pitch for for somebody 211 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:22.840 who has followed MLB for a long time, has followed 212 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.279 you know, what happens in the league pretty closely, and 213 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:29.000 getting to hear all that firsthand, I'm sure ended up 214 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:31.960 being a pretty key factor and why he ultimately picked 215 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:32.720 the Dodgers. 216 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.679 Hey, Jack, With all that being said, how how real 217 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:43.320 do you believe the other two teams had a shot 218 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:47.080 when it's all said, given the history, given the players 219 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:52.519 that we talked about, given the relationships communication with Sazaki 220 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:57.120 and Yamamoto and Otani, the Dodgers as a whole, as 221 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:02.000 an organization, because a lot of people believe in and 222 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.120 like you talked about, we talked about that that this 223 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:08.679 may have been done before, and it was like, you know, 224 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:13.000 Dodgers had had a handshake deal in the past. How 225 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.960 much do you believe that that the other team's actually 226 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.679 had a shot to land him? 227 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.440 I mean, it seems like they felt pretty confident to 228 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.679 various levels. I think the Padres all along like their chances. 229 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.600 Mike Schilp during the winter meetings spoke pretty bluntly about 230 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:30.679 you know, I really think that we have a good 231 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:35.039 shot with Rokie, and obviously the Darvish piece of it 232 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.240 fueled a lot of their their optimism as well. And 233 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:38.720 then with the Blue Jays, you know, that was the 234 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.799 surprise team included in his list of finalists. They felt 235 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:45.159 strong enough to, you know, a few hours before he 236 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.080 announced his decision to go out and acquire a bad 237 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.879 contract in Miles Straw to be able to get a 238 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:55.080 couple million more in signing bonus money to try to 239 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.159 to woo him with. So, you know, I think the 240 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:00.440 actions of the teams kind of speak to the fact that, Wow, 241 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.840 a lot of people in the sport always kind of 242 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.480 thought the Dodgers would end up with Roki Sasaki at 243 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.399 various points of this process, I think other teams did 244 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:10.759 feel confident or at least did feel like they had 245 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.840 a real shot at getting him, And on the flip side, 246 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.759 you know, people with the Dodgers were ever certain that 247 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:18.960 they were getting him. I think kind of similar to 248 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:21.720 how Shoheo Tani's free agency played out last year, where 249 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:24.240 they always liked their chances and you know, if you're 250 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.159 reading some of the Tea Lea's it might have looked good, 251 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.159 but they didn't know up until the very end, until 252 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.200 they made his decision that they were getting him for sure. 253 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.320 So yeah, I think it. At different points of all this, 254 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.120 there were teams that felt like they had a real 255 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.639 shot at getting him, but all along, Again, there was 256 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.600 a reason why so many people thought the Dodgers were 257 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:47.120 favorites in this, and I think ultimately why he ended 258 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:47.879 up being in l A. 259 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.000 Yeah, they were getting them all along, Jack, should we 260 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.320 slice it and dice it and just get right to it. 261 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:56.080 They were getting them all. 262 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.879 Along, right, and we all had got to sit on 263 00:12:59.879 --> 00:13:02.120 the Miles Straw contract. Now, Like I was texting the 264 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.639 people in the industry about that, and it's just you know, 265 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:08.279 at that time, there was a lot of like surprise that, wow, 266 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.039 Toronto's doing this. This must mean that either they think 267 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:12.679 they're getting him or they think they might not be, 268 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:14.720 but they still have a shot too. So you know, 269 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:16.960 I think some of those things I think did surprise 270 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.279 people that maybe this was a little bit more of 271 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:22.159 a competitive process than they were figuring. Even if you know, 272 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:23.600 he ends up with the Dodgers in the end. 273 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:25.879 Two things about that, First, why you got a dog 274 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:30.879 Miles Straw. Maybe Toronto really loved them, Maybe that's the guy. 275 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.200 And second of all, maybe yeah, And second of all, 276 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:36.440 how about this, Maybe it's the surprise in people the 277 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:40.840 Blue Jays maybe it surprised them, but nobody else because 278 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.559 you know something, nobody takes their money. Think about it, 279 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:47.759 the Tati debacle of last year. The people there hate 280 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:50.600 him and he didn't do anything to him. They're gonna 281 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:53.840 hate Somezaki now too. They're gonna hate him now. 282 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.279 I would imagine, yeah, I would imagine. Maybe not at 283 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:58.240 the level like we go back to the Hockey Hall 284 00:13:58.240 --> 00:13:59.720 of Fame. I don't think he's gonna be on like 285 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:01.799 the don't let this guy in list of the other 286 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.480 you know, shoplifters or whatever. 287 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.080 But but yes, that was That was. 288 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.440 One of the subplots of all is like the poor 289 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.519 poor Blue Jay fans who had to endure all of 290 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:14.000 this and back to back years to watch these players 291 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:14.759 end up in l A. 292 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:17.120 Yeah, well you know what, Jack, just tell everybody we're 293 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:19.320 sick of their whining. How do you like that? Let 294 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.759 everybody know we are We're not putting up with it. 295 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:29.320 Jack enough, great job, man, you you you you're all 296 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:30.720 over that just terrific work. 297 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:34.480 As always appreciate it, guys, Thank you very much. 298 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.440 We'll talk to you. There was our buddy, uh Jack 299 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:40.279 Harris at the times. He really does a good job. 300 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:41.279 He really does. 301 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:41.919 Yeah, he does. 302 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:45.360 And you know, honestly, well, there might have been a surprise. 303 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:48.879 You know, people might think, hey, there might be something here, 304 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:53.799 maybe in Toronto. I don't know. Maybe Dean Spanos thought 305 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:57.879 the Chargers were gonna win. Maybe, but they weren't. And 306 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:00.399 at the end of it, when you and do still 307 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:01.960 got here. But at the end of it, when you 308 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.799 look at it and you just look at it, there 309 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:08.240 was one place he was coming. I kept saying that, yeah. 310 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.399 And you know what, two friends on that if if 311 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.519 he didn't end up and say he ends up in 312 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:18.519 Toronto or he's in San Diego, it would have been 313 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:20.799 one of those God, I could have been a Dodger, 314 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:25.039 you said, even outside of it, yes, outside people, what 315 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:25.639 are you doing? 316 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:29.159 What are you doing? You know what I mean? It 317 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:30.320 would be like what are you doing? 318 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.840 If people that don't even know baseball be like, wait, 319 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:35.759 let me get this straight. You got a chance to 320 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.879 be a Dodger, a Padre, or a Blue Jay, and 321 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:44.000 you chose the Padres, and you chose you chose the 322 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:48.519 Blue Jays over the Dodgers to play on that team 323 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:53.639 that's gonna be in the world series every single year 324 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:59.600 and as the best organization. What come on, what gives what? 325 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:01.320 Gif? Come on? 326 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:07.279 Come on, man, come on, man, come on, who's got 327 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:08.519 a gun to your head? Come on? 328 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.120 Yeah, and that's why it made zero sense. 329 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.639 Yeah, it made really Really did the other teams believe 330 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:17.960 that they were actually in the mix? Did they really 331 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.600 actually believe that they had a chance. 332 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:22.600 Well, Mike Schild during the winter meetings, the povery manager, 333 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.159 we think we're really in it. Well you're really not. 334 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:28.799 You're done, and you never really wear right and you 335 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:30.440 never really wear right. 336 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.240 You never were in that. Look, every team should do 337 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.080 whatever they can and sign whoever they can and be 338 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:39.559 the best they can. But what are we doing? It's 339 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:44.440 like you said, Rodney, if you don't sign here with 340 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.000 Otani and yeah, all of the stuff. People were saying, Oh, 341 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:50.120 I don't think you want to live in the shadow. 342 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.360 We can't have that. That's not who he is. I mean, 343 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:55.480 what are you doing? Come on, you would have for 344 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:57.440 the rest of your life. You'd have to answer that 345 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:59.919 question exactly what were you thinking? 346 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.679 What were you thinking as you watched the Dodgers when 347 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:08.759 World series after World series go to LEDCs and all 348 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.799 those things and be on TV every single week. You're 349 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:18.359 gonna have to sit back and go I turned that down. 350 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.160 I turned that down. What am I thinking? 351 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:24.880 Right? There was just family witness on him. Yeah, there's 352 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.880 no way, and that's why he ended up here. I 353 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.359 heard something last night and it was a perception I 354 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:34.640 think many people have of the Dodgers. We're gonna let 355 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:39.839 you hear that next. So how do people around the 356 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.359 country feel about the Dodgers and what they're doing. Well, 357 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:46.240 we see social media and we read the stories. That's 358 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:48.400 some audio that we're gonna let you hear next. 359 00:17:52.359 --> 00:18:00.559 Come on, yoh, it's a home dak Rodney, Pete Rogan 360 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:05.160 And unfortunately there are some a new fire that broke 361 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:09.960 out north on the five off the five Stag Lake area. 362 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.599 Be careful if you're traveling north, going home or wherever 363 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.160 you're going, please please, please be careful. 364 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:19.200 I don't know what's going on in the Oxnard, Ventura area, 365 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:22.680 but my son Josh is out there. Showed some video 366 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:26.079 and those guys look nasty out there. 367 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:30.359 Yeah they are, Yeah, yeah. 368 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:32.680 So be careful. All right. So look, I don't want 369 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:36.400 to get too personal. Uh, it's a story about plastic 370 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:38.319 surgeon Chen Wine. 371 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:38.599 On. 372 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:42.279 I think we all know who he is. Accomplished in 373 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:46.680 his field of endeavor. Yeah, yeah, uh okay, show a 374 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:53.599 hands who's out of a sectomy looking around checking it out. 375 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.640 Nothing to be shy about. I mean I had one 376 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.960 years ago. I actually went on the air at fifteen 377 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.759 forty to take it during the procedure and describe what 378 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.519 was going on. Sure, it's not the most pleasant thing 379 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:09.119 you'll ever go through. But if you have a trained 380 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:11.279 professional handling and you know you'd make that decision, you 381 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:14.720 make the decision. Yeah, the one thing I would think, 382 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.279 the one thing if you have someone operating on that 383 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:24.440 type of equipment, they need to be very skilled, very focused. 384 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:28.920 Better be and there's very not a lot of room 385 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:33.240 or margin of error. You know, one thing the wrong way, 386 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.119 it's gonna go south on you, and that's gonna be bad. 387 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:39.319 South on you. 388 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:44.079 Yeah, for any number of reasons. Well, look doctor Wangong 389 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:51.440 plastic surgeon again, doctor win On, win On on On, 390 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:55.480 I think you said wang On, Well that's what I 391 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:57.480 thought it was originally, which would have made it funnier, 392 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:04.160 but it's win On. Anyway, he decided that he was 393 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:08.799 gonna have a viseect to me okay, and then he decided, look, 394 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.039 this should be an educational process. So what I'm going 395 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:18.400 to do is I'm actually going to record it and 396 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.559 then what I'm going to do is play it for people, 397 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:24.519 because there's nothing to be embarrassed about or anything. This 398 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:27.319 is good. It's good that people know how to do it. 399 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:31.519 What do your own Well, we'll get to me. 400 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:35.480 Right, okay, it's good that people know the procedure right, 401 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.079