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Speaker 1: I'm not just a podcaster. I'm a podcast connoisseur. That

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means I listen, I study, I pay close attention. But

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when it comes to variety, how many times have you

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gone to somebody's streaming website and went nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Okay,

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now you know why we created aro dot net a

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R r OE dot net, seventeen different styles of podcasts

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to choose from. Enjoy your exploration. Hello, and good morning.

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How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 2: Good morning, and thank you for having me on. I

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appreciate it absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I'll bet you there are a lot of people you're

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going to be sharing a conversation with today that have

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been waiting a lifetime to share this conversation with you,

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because you seem to be the needle in the haystack

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right now. And wait till they get their hands on

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this book and they'll understand what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing for me because I just realized that James

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Spatterson just released a book last week about the last

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days of Melon Monroe, and he's talking about Marlin, which

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rank Sinatra and all of us off in cal Neva.

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I didn't see James Patterson there.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, no, oh, my god. You know, speaking of that,

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one of my favorite entire subjects in this book is

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that buddy of Frank Sinatra, and intimately more with Marilyn Monroe.

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If you knew what that does to a man's heart,

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because you're sitting there going yeah, yeah, and you just

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feel it within your words, sir, Oh.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. Well, I mean I fell in love with

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her as just a kid the fifteen and we became friends.

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I was with her the last five years of the life,

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unfortunately to the way she tragically disappeared, which is all

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in my book, Mafia's Secrets, obviously, But no, I mean,

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she was an unbelievable person, very low esteem and just

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gave herself literally gave herself physically to too many guys.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yeah. I gotta ask you a question here

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in the way that I've been blessed to talk with

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a lot of US soldiers, senators as well as speakers

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of the House, they have to go through an editing

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process in order to get their books out. I mean,

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I've read this book, I've got this book beside me

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right now. How did you get this past the censors

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of the family.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean. I flew to sist Way and

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went talked to them.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, damn.

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Speaker 2: Jet to pick me up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's got photographs in at Gianni that are

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just priceless. I mean, I can't keep my face out

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of these black and whites. It's such a time in

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history that just really embraces the imagination.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the mafia has always been an intrigue

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from Bogot to Cagny whatever, and I just was born

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into it and not realizing, you know, the significance of

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these stories, and now I'm finding it out just through

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my books. This is my third book, basically, and I

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cannot believe the receptionists getting all ready.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's one thing I've always loved about your writing.

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I always feel like that you are in the middle

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of this gigantic field and all of this history is

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coming through you because somebody has chosen you, Gianni, to say, hey, look,

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tell the story, but tell the story the way it was.

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Don't sit there and been to Hollywood. Story here, tell

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me the story.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm telling you, yes, they get indicted, and I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I mean, one of the things that really caught

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my attention very quickly. Was was the fact that they

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say that you've got the million dollar smile. Now, one

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thing that I've always said about the smile, especially radio people,

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we have a candy coated plastic bathroom mere smile. How

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did you learn how to smile that bright, that long

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and that meaningful?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just I don't know. I mean, my ego

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number one. This is my second set of implants because

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I didn't like the first one. It's like I have

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a Bentley in my mouth. Now I have a three

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hundred thousand dollars my smile.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Gianni Russo right

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around the corner. The name of the book Untold Tales

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from the Hollywood Godfather Mafia Secrets from Gianni Russo, how

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do you feel about what's currently going on with the

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sporting industry, Because I mean it came from Adam left Field.

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When they name all of these top sports people and

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all and then all of a sudden, from out of nowhere,

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they say the family was involved, and it's like, oh,

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I'm going to be talking with Gianni coming up here.

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I want to know not if the family's involved, but

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all of a sudden, from out of nowhere. The family

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is now back in the story.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, they never were out of the story. Okay,

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they talget these guys. I had. I had a casino

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in Vegas and these guys were coming up and give

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them everything they want. But see what don't realize today

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they have saturated the market with gambling opportunities. Every you

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could bet any time you want. So they got housewives

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going broke. And what they're doing is what the players

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are doing. They've been doing it forever. Shave a point issue.

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They're not throwing the game, but they're getting so involved.

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They wrap them up in these games with celebrities and

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women and everything else. Then they find themselves are in

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the hall for about two million three may Oh, don't

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worry about I'll show you how to work it out. Yeah,

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that's all they do is, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I've heard the story from NBA players, And he goes,

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if you knew what's going on inside those rooms, you

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would not really want to know what's going on inside

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those rooms. And I'm going, maybe it should be just

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a wizard behind the curtain and I'm not taking a

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sneak peek.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, the good news, I hope you're not a

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better No, because you're not. You can't win. I never

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saw them tear down a casino for no business. Wow.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, though, I do like to hang

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around with people who do win. I won't place the bet,

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but I like being around somebody who wins, because, oh

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my god, the adrenaline, the excitement, it feeds everything around them.

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Speaker 2: And all the perks. I mean, you know, it's I've

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been around major players from all over the world. But

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you know, it's like you're saying, there's adrenaline that just

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keeps calling me, and it's a great high. It's a

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natural high. It's you. We're not taking anything and we're

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not snorting anything, but it's I've been in this business now.

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I mean, in ten days, I can't believe I'll be

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eighty three years old. Oh my god, how much type seen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. See, that's why I love your writing. And

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that's every bit the reason why I created the Channel

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View from the Writing Instrum, because if people would just

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take the time to share their stories, then I don't

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have to write it for you. Write your own story.

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My god, Giohnny, you really go into it in this book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my next book. You're not going to believe gangsters

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and celebrities.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's one of those where TMS he's going

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to be following you. What are you doing? Who are

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you following?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: What's the story? Tell me more? Tell me more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what it's about. Well, you know, I

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the intrigue even for myself, Like when I found out

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today yesterday actually that James Patterson wrote a book about

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Melon Monroe. He was talking about cal Neva. Well, I

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was up there that weekend. He said, Sinatra invited it

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to cal Neva. It was the last five days of

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her life. And I didn't see any James Patterson up there.

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But now there's a book simultaneously right now. It just

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came out. I can't believe it. But he didn't got

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his lives across his steas. I'll tell you that to you.

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Speaker 1: When you write, one of the things that I've always

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loved about it is the fact that you're first of all,

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you're very authentic, and you bring the news to us

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as readers. In other words, they like the story with

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where you say that we'll never find Jimmy Hoffa. But

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yet the mystique of that one of the seven wonders

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of the world. Do we really want to find out

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where he is?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I know really where he is. My friend's bidded

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on it. He became a two x three square of metal.

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They took the axles in the in the block and

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motor block out, took the call of statn ow to

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breeze and they, I mean the friction of it. There's

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no DNA. If they took it apart, you couldn't find him. Wow?

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Is square?

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Speaker 1: Are you in talks with anybody about bringing this forward

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as a series, because I would love to see Martin

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Scorsese do each one of these chapters one at a time,

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not a movie. I want to see it one at

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a time, because that's what you did in writing this book.

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You give it to me that way.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope it goes from your mouth to gods,

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your years and somebody that picks up on it. Wow,

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I believe like you do. It's an authentic story. Their

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names that I've been changed to protect me innocent and

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let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Can we spread the rumor that I mentioned in this book?

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But you have to change my name just so I

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can get some free press?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about what

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you're doing, especially all of your books, because man, you're

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on a journey right now. That is just mind blowing

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to me as a creative.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. No, I do a weekly podcast. It's Hollywood

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Godfather Podcast every Wednesday. It's everywhere, it's Spotify, it's all

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over than eighty three countries. I have a million week,

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a million followers a week. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Well, you got to come back to this show

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anytime in the future. Man. I love sharing conversations.

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Speaker 2: With you anytime you want. Thank you, Thank your audience

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for doing appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Be brilliant today, Okay, sir,