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Speaker 2: Good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with

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you because you get it. I mean, you understand the

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timing and basically the listening of your body in order

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to do what it is that you require during these transformations.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I really appreciate that. I can't claim to have

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a to be an expert in that, but certainly for me,

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I think I've discovered some things that have really worked out.

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Speaker 1: But you grab our attention right away. Racing against time?

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Aren't we all doing that? Except you know what, Jeffrey,

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You you're the one that figured out a better way

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to do it, and we're we're just doing I don't

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know what we're doing, but we're just racing through time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we all are. You know, we all

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have to contend with the effects of aging, and I

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think we all have a lot of power over how

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we go about doing that and how the kind of

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we want to be able to do as we get older,

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and so you know, I think for me that the

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trick is to really harness the things that we have

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control over and really to try to have the best

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Speaker 1: Man, you bring up a very interesting point there when

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you say aging, because I would have never thought in

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high school that I would get up to a point

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to where I would look at my master in martial

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there's no such thing as aging out. I'm thinking he's

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wrong on this. What are you going to and going

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through when it comes to what you deal with out

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, I think we have to

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we do have to recognize it as we get older.

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not as many as we take and I think we're

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capable of a lot more than we give ourselves credit for.

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And for me doing a first marathon at fifty, doing

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iron Man in my late fifties, ultra marathons in my

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late fifties and early sixties has been very eye opening

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because I never really considered myself a runner, and I'm

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still not an especially past one. And it's not that

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those are the recipe for everybody, but I do think

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we're all capable of surprising ourselves and it's fun to

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Speaker 1: All right, this is a third degree black belt talking

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to you right now as that runner. Is it because

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you finally learned to listen to your body? And is

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that why you picked up running? Because I got into

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martial arts at forty.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, that's amazing. I think I listened to my

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being sedentary, that I knew that I needed to start

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Speaker 1: How did you deal with those moments? And baby, Hopefully

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are you dealing with those voices when they want to stop?

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have to sit down and pre plan a lot of stuff?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever wonder where life is going to plan

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to you in the way of all of this experience?

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will come back and say, hey, you remember when you

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first started running. I need that energy right now. It's

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that will one day happen that you're now you know,

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sports are a metaphor for life. Yep. And I think

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that done right, we don't just get fitter and healthier,

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but we also build grit, resilience, aspirational skills, and aspirational mindset,

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a growth mindset, I think, all of which pay incredible dividends,

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and all sears of our lives, whether of our lives,

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whether as professionals or just as spouses and parents and

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all of the rest. I think it carries into everything

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Jeffrey Weiss coming

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up next, the name of his book, Racing Against Time.

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We are back with Jeffrey Weiss. So okay, you and

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I are both up here. And the thing is is

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that do you ever have those moments where you know

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inside your heart I can outperform that twenty year old

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old man who's out to prove it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think, and I think the competitiveness in

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many ways should be with yourself, yep, and trying to

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do as well as you can do for yourself with

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the tools that you have and the ability you have.

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about twenty year olds. I do sometimes think about my

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twenty year old self, yep, and it gives me. It

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makes me happy to think that I'm doing things now

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left us. They're still there. It's almost like that movie

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thing is is that you're able to sit there and

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communicate with where you once were, to make yourself greater

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Speaker 2: I think those voice I think it goes in two

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directions to me. I think my younger self would be

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inspired to know that life you didn't end when I

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things that minderself couldn't have imagined. And I think about

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my much older self looking back on the life and

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life well lived, a life of risk taking, of audacity,

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of doing some pretty neat things. And so I think

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Speaker 1: The book we're talking about is racing against time, and

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you know there's going to be some naysayer sitting in

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their house somewhere, and they're going to be going, I

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don't want to deal with the pain. Well, how what

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can we say to let people realize it's called pain management.

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You're not going to be in pain if you learn

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the fine art of pain management.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. I think. It is going to

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be hard for the first month or so of any

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new activity. I think there's no getting away from that.

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that we're capable of enjoying, I think we'll find that

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the pain is not nearly the factor that we think

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it might be. And I also think there's just there's

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tremendous satisfaction in completing a hard workout, and how very

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were writing this book? Because it takes a lot of

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Speaker 2: Now, the running for me is a lot of fun.

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always enjoy it. It's a tremendous process. All right.

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Speaker 1: Where'd you get that idea from? Writing it? Because I

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Speaker 2: Oh that's wonderful, you know, it's funny. This is my

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third book, and before I wrote my first one, I

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all sorts of interesting advice, the approaches of different famous authors.

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if you want to be a serious writer, you got

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to write every day. Yeah, and I think that's a discipline.

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a day in a year, you've got a book. So

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it's not as simple as that, but it's not far

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off from that either. And I think, you know, persistence

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really does yield tremendous benefits over time.

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Speaker 1: In any of those studies, did you include Julia Cameron?

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Speaker 2: Not specifically, but I think I got that from am

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Lamot and maybe from Stephen King here in one of

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the book I'm writing. Yeah, Yeah, there's some really really

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terrific ones out there. I encourage anybody who's interested in

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it to check them out. But yeah, writing is a

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wonderful adventure of its own.

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Speaker 1: See, you're proving to people you can run and be

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everything else in life as well. It doesn't have to

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be that thing. Oh you're a runner, that's the only

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thing you do. No, You've got a life to live.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think fitness is incredibly important,

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but it's not the be all and end all of life.

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to your obligations as a family person. That shouldn't take

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away from your obligations as you know in the workforce.

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But I think done right, it actually can make you

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better in all of those fears.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?

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Because I want them to jump on your and go

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Speaker 2: I love it. The book itself Writs Against Time is

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best obtained on Amazon, either as a paperback ind the

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version or an audiobook, and I have an author website

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Jeffreyweis's author dot com.

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Speaker 1: Please come back to the show anytime in the future, Jeffrey,

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because this is a subject that needs to be talked

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about throughout the year, not on just one Spring day.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. Thank you so much. It's been

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, you two.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.