WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:05.360 This is the Baseline discussing the hot button topics of 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.839 the n B A welcome everybody, your tune to the 3 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:11.480 baseline Cali one shall discussing the hot button topics of 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:15.240 the nb. A holiday edition of the Baseline might be 5 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:22.600 the mobile edition of the baseline. As my man Shaw 6 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:26.160 always you know, he has more of been the clandestine 7 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:30.399 one recently, but even but sometimes you know what I'm saying, 8 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.320 brothers of the brothers are together, may flock within the 9 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:36.320 same state, you know what I mean. So it's kind 10 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.759 of nice to be back in the old stomping grounds, 11 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:42.200 you know, down here in the West Palm, my man 12 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.119 Shaw rocking down there in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. And obviously 13 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:47.479 you know, to our listeners listen, you know what I'm saying. 14 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:52.159 We've known each other since what liqual youth is, right, 15 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.799 so uh, it won't be it won't be too far 16 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:58.439 off from us, you know, getting together. But man as always, Man, 17 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:02.600 it's it's great, you know, being back down in the 18 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.120 in the old yard. And you know, warm warm weather 19 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:09.000 conditions certainly do not disappoint for us northernness. 20 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:14.000 Yes, sure, yeah, Usually I'm the one who's traveling if 21 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:17.040 you will and on location sometimes but you know, not 22 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:19.799 that you don't travel. You do a good job of, 23 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.920 you know, not having to podcast when you travel, because 24 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.680 you go to destinations where the audio and podcasting stuff 25 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:27.680 can even be done. But nevertheless, I'm very excited, you know. 26 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:29.640 But you know, you know me though, I'm a guy 27 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:31.640 for or something. If we have to make it happen. 28 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:33.840 Right, No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not knocking to hustle. 29 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.120 I'm not going to hustle. But you know how to 30 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:37.879 plug out a little bit better than I do, and 31 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.239 I'm I'm envious of that. At the same time, though, 32 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.879 glad to have year in the interesting state, I want 33 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:44.680 to say, the great state, the interesting state of Florida, 34 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:48.120 now where our families are. While other things are going on, 35 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:49.680 at least our families are still here to kind of 36 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.799 keep us saying. So we'll be looking forward to catching 37 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:53.840 up with you in person, you know, here in the 38 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:54.480 in the coming day. 39 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.480 Absolutely man. And as always, you know, we appreciate everybody 40 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:01.079 who's been rock with the baseline from day one today none, 41 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:03.439 it doesn't matter to you know what I'm saying, what level, 42 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:06.239 degree and time frame it's been about rocking with us Man. 43 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.960 As always, we love discussing the hot button topics of 44 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:11.680 the NBA. We had a good little show on tap 45 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:15.879 for our listeners right Obviously, the big talk of the conversation, 46 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.879 a big talk in town is regarding the updated formatting 47 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:24.520 suggested formatting for this year's NBA All Star Weekend. Will 48 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:26.479 tap into that, and then we have one of our 49 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:30.680 favorite segs, Man talk, is your abandoned ship love this one? Man? 50 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.639 You know what I'm saying, gives me all those Buster vibes, 51 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:36.520 those bustee's. 52 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:35.879 All one time. 53 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.039 Yea, be nice. You know what I'm saying. 54 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.400 I'm gonna reach out to buses representatives exactly making stuff 55 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:42.879 going on. 56 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.159 To Yeah, man, exactly. You know it would be awesome too. 57 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:47.759 We can get like a legit drop, you know what 58 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.360 I'm saying, Like a double double plate drop from Buster. 59 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:52.960 You know what I mean. That would be a featured segment. 60 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:56.080 You know what I'm saying for sure exactly I'm gonna 61 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:58.039 reach out to work on that. Yeah. 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So Sean, let's 84 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:05.159 get right into the goods, right the big conversation that's 85 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.879 been going around over the last few days in the NBA. 86 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:15.479 Is this proposed new format of NBA All Star Weekend, 87 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:20.199 specifically the NBA All Star Game, which they're saying is 88 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:25.199 they're wanting to implement for this year's upcoming All Star Weekend. 89 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:30.000 It's gonna be a four team tournament style format in 90 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.519 which you'll have two semi final games being played up 91 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.600 to forty points, with the winners advancing to final match 92 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:38.560 up to the final match, which will be played up 93 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:42.360 to twenty five points. And you know, this is you know, 94 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.160 basically been announced, you know, through all major outlets, So 95 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:48.040 you know, you go to ESPN, NBA dot com, where 96 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:50.439 have you, and you'll you'll get more information in regards 97 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:50.759 to this. 98 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:53.480 And I really wanted to get your take. 99 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:57.480 There's been a lot of pushback, you know, from you know, 100 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:01.439 the media pundits, you know, with regard cards to this 101 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:06.040 tournament style that's being implemented, and I'm really just curious 102 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:08.879 what your take is is, you know, as far as 103 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.040 do you think that the NBA is going too far? 104 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:13.800 You know, are they leaning too hard into this or 105 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:15.839 you know, where where are we going with this? 106 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:18.879 We'll stop me if you've heard this one before, you know, 107 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.800 fans don't like NBA format, NBA tries to change format, 108 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.240 fans still unhappy. I mean, it's it's just a vicious cycle, 109 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.720 you know that. I think that we're in. We didn't 110 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.199 really want to embrace the NBA Cup or the nc's 111 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:33.360 Tournament as it was last year. Now the Emirates and an 112 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:35.519 NBA Cup, and we got to get used to maybe 113 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.120 some some changes in format. So if it goes away, 114 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.000 people are going to be upset, like if they cancel 115 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.480 it altogether. So I'm going to continue to applaud the 116 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.199 league at least for trying things. And while I don't 117 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.839 know that this is the best fit, well, it's nobody 118 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.160 liked what happened last year, so well, a pickup style, 119 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.319 you know, four team, eight eight guys per team situation 120 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.759 work out in the Many tournament. I don't know. I 121 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:02.040 just I don't know until it actually happens. It's clear 122 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:03.839 I don't know anything about how the league works when 123 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.600 it comes to, you know, in rule changes if you will, 124 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.079 because I guess this isn't a rule change or a 125 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.519 competition change. Since it's an unofficial game, it doesn't count 126 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:13.800 for anything. So they can continue to tweak the format 127 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.319 as the proverbally see fit. Even going back to the 128 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.439 years when they made Dwayne Wayne and Drug and Whisky 129 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.040 honorary members of All Star teams or whatever, like, it's 130 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:22.759 always kind of like they do it what they want 131 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:25.120 to base on. However, the year is I have no 132 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.160 real issue with this as on its face, I'm more 133 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:31.000 intrigued by if they're going to expand All Star Saturday 134 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.720 Night to some degree, what they're going to do about 135 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:35.079 the Dunk Contest of anything. But I'd love to see 136 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:38.759 more stuff with like, you know, the Sabrina Sabrina Ionescu 137 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:40.920 and and Steph Curry. You know, if you get Katelin 138 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:43.480 Clark into that situation now the three point competition, getting 139 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:45.040 the w NBA more involved in some of the All 140 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.639 Star Saturday Night stuff that interests me Sunday I'm kind 141 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:50.360 of lukewarm on, but I'm not going to poop poo 142 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:51.360 it until I actually see it. 143 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.240 Yeah, So a lot of the pushback has really been 144 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:56.560 and I and and I get it. A lot of 145 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.439 the pushback I think people have is they think that 146 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.800 the NBA is just masking, you know what the elephant 147 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:05.160 in the room is speaking to is that listen to 148 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.079 all stars are just not competitive, right, Like they're just no, 149 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:12.279 there's no incentive for them. And I think what really 150 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.600 angers them is the fact that why do you need 151 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.920 to be incentivized to do something that naturally has been 152 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:23.360 always a part of the fabric of growing the game right. 153 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:30.079 And So it's a really interesting situation, Shaw because I've 154 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:33.920 you know how I feel about the Ncason Tournament, And 155 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:38.199 it's not that I don't think that it's a quality idea, 156 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:42.560 it's that it doesn't absolve a lot of what we 157 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.879 keep saying the NBA falls privy to. Instead of what 158 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.160 it used to do, which is take bold steps. It 159 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:52.079 seems like it takes these side steps and doesn't go 160 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:54.639 fully all in, and then they dance around with it, 161 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:56.680 they mess around with it, and then they don't really 162 00:07:56.920 --> 00:08:00.120 they don't really articulate exactly what they're going for, what 163 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.959 they're trying to achieve, what they're trying to accomplish, Like 164 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:04.839 this could actually be something. 165 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:07.240 That's great, no different than we have pickup ball. 166 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.439 And I think a lot of people who come from 167 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:12.199 the urban area, who come up from you know, some 168 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:15.319 type of basketball background, would look at this and be 169 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:15.920 like Yo, this. 170 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:17.199 Is pretty dope. 171 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:22.360 But again it'll fall short if the players don't buy 172 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.839 in properly. They don't invest in it properly. So I 173 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:29.439 think that, to me is the is the key overall. Say, listen, 174 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.440 you can, you can toss out as many great ideas, 175 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.919 but if the players don't put themselves into this with 176 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:40.000 the intent of what it's supposed to do, it'll never 177 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:40.759 come off clean. 178 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:42.279 It'll never come off soundly. 179 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:45.159 And again it'll be to to the you know, to 180 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:49.000 the uh, to the to the fans' eyes, it's just 181 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:51.320 you know, another marketing ploy scheme. 182 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:52.519 You already got them there. 183 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.200 But I think what will make them upset is knowing 184 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.399 that these guys are not walking onto the court with 185 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:01.960 the intent that they're trying to actually be the best 186 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.240 of the best in an all star format like it 187 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:06.360 used to do back in the day. 188 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:08.759 Yeah, I love what you're saying, and I think a 189 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:11.200 common what I think is a misnomer is and I'm 190 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.320 saying that that's what you're What you said was a misnomer, 191 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.440 But most people don't think. Most people think things happen 192 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:19.600 to the players. The players have say in this right. 193 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:22.679 The Players Association is involved in how these things go. 194 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.559 So if they if the majority of the players don't 195 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:26.799 like it, then they need to take that up with 196 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.679 the representatives from from their teams and the Players Association 197 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.840 that are also you know arbitrates if you will, with 198 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:34.759 the Board of Governors, if you will, tea you know, 199 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:36.399 for the for the league and you know who whatever 200 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.519 else is involved there they and yeah, the governor that ownership. 201 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:42.039 So to me, it's just like, oh, you know when 202 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:44.240 they all start, a product goes bad and like they 203 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:45.919 are out there kind of like, you know, half ass 204 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:47.399 in it, so to speak. It's just like, well, you 205 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:49.799 know the league wanted this, well, the league includes the players, 206 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.559 so you know they at this stage. You know what 207 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.919 we're reading, you know, is that somebody like I'm not 208 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.320 I'm not putting him, putting him out there, but Stephan 209 00:09:58.399 --> 00:09:59.960 is going to be the face of All Star WEEKND. 210 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.120 It's going to be in Golden State, right, So I 211 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.200 don't know that he is the one. He's not driving 212 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:07.879 this per se. But the Players Association is alongside Adam Silver, 213 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:11.600 you know, and and the governorship of the NBA. So 214 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:13.679 this is something that you know they're going to buy into. 215 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:15.519 We will have to see if it actually works out 216 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.360 and actually comes to fruition. It may take a sharp 217 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:21.600 left here and maybe they go back with their traditional format. 218 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.720 But I applaud them for at least trying and not 219 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:26.960 just kind of shoving the same thing that didn't work 220 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:29.159 and was kind of you know, boring and disgusting to 221 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.000 watch last year. But again, I if you remember, I 222 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:33.879 wasn't really all that irritated because I was like, well, 223 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:36.320 I don't really expect anything from most of our weekend anymore, right, 224 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:40.000 And while that might be you know, taking an attitude 225 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:42.159 of dissonance, so to speak, that's just kind of where 226 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:44.000 I'm at with it. So hey, try something new, all right, 227 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:45.919 I'll give it a shot. If not, then hey, I'll 228 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:47.879 still strug my shoulders. I won't be overly disappointed. 229 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.279 Yeah, I don't have a problem with them trying. You 230 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.879 know what I'm saying, This is what you can clearly tell, 231 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:56.000 is that it's the NBA that is trying. They're they're 232 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:01.480 trying to appease and at the same time eight a 233 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:06.840 heightened you know, vibrance, you know, to the idea of 234 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.679 what All Star Weekend is supposed to mean. But again, 235 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.559 you can lead a horse to water. Bro can't make 236 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:17.320 them drink. This is on the players. The players have 237 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.559 to be bought into this. And and I think this 238 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.200 is one other thing. I'm just mentioned this before we move, 239 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:27.559 you know, move on. A lot of this is coming 240 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:30.679 from a place of now we're talking about what this 241 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:36.600 generation values, what this generation prioritizes as far as what 242 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.279 what matters to them in the in the sport of basketball, 243 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:44.039 in sports entertainment. And I think this is there's a 244 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:47.000 disconnect here because a lot of the anger is coming 245 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:50.960 from the players who laid the foundation to give you 246 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:56.120 this coute quote quote unquote open platform of being able 247 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.720 to take the games in these different directions and ways 248 00:11:58.759 --> 00:11:59.519 and stuff like that. 249 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:00.600 And yeah, the. 250 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:04.000 Most fundamental thing that has to still come from this, 251 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:05.759 and this is even when we you know, when we 252 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.399 visited you know, All Star weekends numerous time. 253 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:09.759 Shaw. 254 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:12.320 It's great that you can get all of these big 255 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.879 name companies out there, and we can use the word 256 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.960 brand activation, but the ultimate brand that has brought this 257 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:23.360 together is the NBA. And if the NBA doesn't, you know, 258 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:27.320 oversee this in a manner. And I say that collectively, 259 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:31.480 it's not just the board it's not the committee. It's 260 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:37.360 the players too. It's everyone, the veterans, the former NBA players, 261 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.240 the union, all of everyone has to be bought in 262 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:43.200 when it comes to these type of events, even when 263 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:45.840 we talk about the finals, and we talk about Summer 264 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.240 League and all of it has to be bought in collectively. 265 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:50.960 If you're expecting. 266 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.320 People to buy into the brand, it should not be 267 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.600 a fragmented thing like some of the time I like it, 268 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.960 some of the time I'm not. And I think that's 269 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:58.919 where a lot of this disconnect is coming from. So 270 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.519 when you have these new idea ideas that can sound 271 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:06.200 very innovative, that could sound very you know, creative, if 272 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.799 you're not getting all of the buy in from everyone in. 273 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.039 And I'm not saying scrap it. What I am saying 274 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:14.000 is is that critical aspects of what is not being 275 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:16.919 invested properly. To do it properly, you will have the 276 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:21.759 kind of you know your word dissonance that takes place. 277 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.120 You know, whether it's from the media side, whether it's 278 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.639 from the fans side, whether it's from the player side, 279 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:29.200 or whether it's from the NBA, you know, the NBA 280 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:34.000 leadership or executive side. And that's where I think is 281 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:37.480 where it becomes so disheartening is that it just feels 282 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:40.840 like no matter what you do, Like my group Little 283 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.080 Brother says, man can't win for losing, you know what 284 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.320 I'm saying, Like, we just need to get back to 285 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.519 a point where there was a joy in this level 286 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.600 of competitiveness that comes out of us putting these type 287 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:52.879 of things on. And until we get to that point, 288 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:55.360 a lot of these ideas they sound great and like 289 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:58.120 special ed to ten fifteen years ago, We're gonna wish 290 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.440 it was here. It was at that time that we 291 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.200 started appreciating it because it's never going to be available. 292 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:04.639 To us, you know, down the road. 293 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:08.080 Players got to not just be apathetic to the idea 294 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:10.240 and just say, hey, it's it's a vacation to wherever 295 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:12.279 it is or whatever. And some players at this point 296 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.200 don't want to go. They'd rather actually go on vacation 297 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:17.000 with their families. So we're getting the results of a 298 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:20.320 lot of different things here. But maybe this will be 299 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.639 the elixir to kind of get things back on track. 300 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:24.639 As if they buy it, as you're losing absolutely your 301 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.000 tune to the baseline. 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Man, shout out to our man, bust the 330 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.720 rhymes and Last Boy Scout his cousin, Last Boy Scout. 331 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:23.879 That was one of my favorite songs. You know what 332 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:25.159 I'm saying when the. 333 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:29.000 Coming came out that I know everybody was on wuha, 334 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.919 got you all in check and everything remains raw, which 335 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:36.799 is another you know classic. But man, that beat on 336 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:40.799 abandoned ship. I'm sorry, man, people just don't understand that 337 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:42.320 type stuff right there? 338 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:46.279 What and keep going and get the people going for sure? 339 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.399 Absolutely, brother, Absolutely all right. So let's get right into it. 340 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.679 So let's do a little talk ish or abandoned Ship. 341 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:57.120 First on the docket, the Philadelphia seventy six Ers out apropos, 342 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:03.200 my friend, they are first their lead off. We're still 343 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:05.640 gonna talk that ish about the Philadelphia seventy six is 344 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:07.079 or is it time to abandon ship? 345 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.960 So I don't want to hedge, so I think the 346 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.119 short answer is I'm going to abandon ship it. Everything 347 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.319 smells and looks and feels bad about the Sixers vibes 348 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.200 right now, three and thirteen as a recording here, you know, 349 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:22.839 next to last, and what is a low the Eastern Conference. 350 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:25.359 You know, unceremoniously you figure out out there's still time 351 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:27.599 for them to climb themselves and at least obviously the 352 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:30.240 play in situation. But that's what we thought would be 353 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:32.079 the case with the Sixers. We thought this would be 354 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:35.000 at least a top four team in the Eastern Conference. 355 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.440 Right now, that seems very very far off. As we're 356 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:40.839 recording and beat is out again, you know, swelling in 357 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:44.200 the knee. Paul George's should be back maybe sometime next week. 358 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.000 Jared McCain is proving to be the Sixers' best player 359 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.079 this year, even with Tyres Maxi kind of in and 360 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:51.640 out of the lineup. Nothing about the Bobs and Sixers 361 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.599 makes me want to talk my ish. I'm abandoned ship 362 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:56.440 on this joint real quick, and I just hope I'll 363 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:58.240 wish for the best for them. I ain't gonna hate 364 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:00.000 on them, but I can't take this ride anymore. 365 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:01.039 Yeah. 366 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:03.799 Well, you know me, I was already abandoning that ship 367 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:08.400 when we had our conversation about Joel Embiid, And as 368 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.240 far as I'm concerned, I just feel bad for Tyrese 369 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:14.240 Maxi because he, to me, is really the only person 370 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:16.319 on that roster right now. 371 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:18.599 That is part of that. 372 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.839 Transition that I think Philly fans are just hoping and 373 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.359 praying that he isn't contaminated by what's taking place. 374 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:27.000 Now. 375 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:29.000 We can sit here in point fingers on whether or 376 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:31.599 not it's the leadership problem, it's an Embiid problem. 377 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:32.319 It doesn't matter. 378 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:35.519 All I know is is that you know, Nick Nurse, 379 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.119 I'm sure came in with the best of intentions to say, Hey, 380 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:41.960 you know, I think I can you know, turn this, 381 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:44.039 I can fix this. I can I can kind of 382 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:46.400 unlock you know what I'm saying, what's holding back to 383 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:49.440 Philadelphia seventy six ers. And I even think he's even 384 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:51.920 realized right now he would just like to just get 385 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.640 a core group of guys that he doesn't feel like 386 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:58.319 all have personal agendas and get him on the page 387 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:00.559 of doing what he was doing, you know, when he 388 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:03.119 was the head coach of the Toronto Raptors. So I'm 389 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.839 just hoping that what we salvage now for the remainder 390 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:08.680 of this season. One the upside potential that we see 391 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.160 with Jared McLain, because that could really be an awesome 392 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.039 combination of him and Tyresse Maxi, and I mean, you 393 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:17.720 can certainly build from there. And then obviously Tyrese Maxi, 394 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:20.839 like I understand, Tyrese Maxey's got a good relationship or 395 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:23.160 you know, he says that he's you know, he has 396 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.680 a great relationship with Joel Embiid, and you know they're obviously, 397 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:29.200 you know, very upfront with each other, and all of 398 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.000 that stuff that was going on with the you know, 399 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:33.279 players only meeting and it leaking out, all that kind 400 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.319 of stuff, I don't think mitigates. The bigger picture when 401 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.799