Speaker 1: Oh, Fred, des are hell and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 2: I'm Jacob and today is uh. We're actually doing the
Speaker 2: live show a little bit earlier this week because our
Speaker 2: normal day of it would be Christmas Eve and we
Speaker 2: got kids and shit, so we doing it on Christmas
Speaker 2: Eve Eve.
Speaker 3: And also next week because of New Year's and things
Speaker 3: and stuff, we will be doing it Monday night as well.
Speaker 3: So for everybody who is able to attend, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 3: I don't know how y'all's you know, pre Christmas endeavors
Speaker 3: are going, but mine is the term hurting cats does
Speaker 3: in fact.
Speaker 4: Come to mind.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, maybe chickens through their heads, running
Speaker 3: a cut off, running around that.
Speaker 4: That also is a pretty good indication of my shit.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, our shit's been pretty chill, actually,
Speaker 2: I mean outside of today. Today was a little bit
Speaker 2: of a chaotic mess. I went to the mall earlier
Speaker 2: because I had to go pick up I got, I
Speaker 2: got a little So you're in Louisiana, right, No, No,
Speaker 2: we're not going to Louisiana until the twenty seventh.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so there was the mall in and Katie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, So yeah, I went over there earlier
Speaker 2: because Luisa ordered some baby shoes from I can't remember
Speaker 2: the name of the baby store children's place, and and
Speaker 2: I also had to go there because I got Sean
Speaker 2: a Christmas present that I got like embroidered. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be a fun, cool thing and uh and yeah, so
Speaker 2: I went over there to go pick them up, and dude,
Speaker 2: I should you not? Like two or three minutes after
Speaker 2: I walk into the mall, everybody's like rushing by me,
Speaker 2: like running, sprinting and like laughing and jogging, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the hell is going on? It almost reminded me
Speaker 2: of like you ever seen Home Alone, whenever they're rushing
Speaker 2: down the airport to try and make it, you know,
Speaker 2: to the plane in time. It was kind of like that,
Speaker 2: And I almost started singing that d do.
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: That's always between that and Run Run Rudolph.
Speaker 3: Whenever I'm going through an airport and running somewhere, that
Speaker 3: is the only soundtrack blaying through my ears.
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was wild, But anyway, so I'm like, what
Speaker 2: the hell are people running for? I thought it was
Speaker 2: maybe like even a flash mob kind of mentality or
Speaker 2: some crazy shit.
Speaker 4: Right, did you walk through a five K or some
Speaker 4: shit you didn't know about?
Speaker 2: Bro There was a fucking active shooter at the mall
Speaker 2: the literally day, bro To, Like two minutes after I
Speaker 2: walked into the mall, there was an active shooter.
Speaker 3: You know what, People want to look at me crazy,
Speaker 3: like I'm wild for carrying that thing on me at
Speaker 3: all times. Then some shit like this happens and y'all running,
Speaker 3: y'all ass is running. Meanwhile I'm seeking cover. There's two
Speaker 3: different people in this world.
Speaker 4: You feel me, and you.
Speaker 2: Know what's funny is is that I As soon as
Speaker 2: that happened, my first thought was Jacob's gonna say did
Speaker 2: you carry your Did you carry your.
Speaker 4: Gun on you?
Speaker 6: Why didn't you?
Speaker 4: You were Christmas shopping? It is psychotic times. This was
Speaker 4: a full on, full on situation.
Speaker 3: Here, Jonathan by yourself a holster for Christmas and Carrie
Speaker 3: at all times?
Speaker 4: Cult members. This ain't no games, no guys all these streets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honey, Badge, I see you with your hands up?
Speaker 4: What up?
Speaker 7: Was good? Broich? Which mall was that? Because I'm all
Speaker 7: in the Houston Stafford area, was.
Speaker 2: That Katie Mills, Yeah, I heard about that.
Speaker 3: I thought, Katie's like the upscale, rich people area, What
Speaker 3: the fuck is happening here.
Speaker 4: Dude, it is.
Speaker 2: It's fucking all over the place. But and I never
Speaker 2: really I saw the news articles. Some people were saying
Speaker 2: that it was actually in the mall, some people were
Speaker 2: saying that it was in the parking lot. I couldn't
Speaker 2: really get a clear like message on that. Uh, some
Speaker 2: people in the mall. I didn't hear shots. I just
Speaker 2: heard a fucking stampede of just crazy humans losing their
Speaker 2: ship running out of I was, dude, I almost got
Speaker 2: run over. Like it was crazy up in there. It
Speaker 2: was almost like you know, like whenever you on Bourbon
Speaker 2: Street and somebody here's a shot, and everybody's like, oh, go,
Speaker 2: go go. Yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 4: That's also depends on the area.
Speaker 3: You're in New Orleans, they'll run like one block down
Speaker 3: the street and like continue on their night like nothing happened.
Speaker 4: But like some places they you know.
Speaker 2: Well, here's here's what's wild is is that the original
Speaker 2: story that I had heard is that it happened in
Speaker 2: Forever twenty one and whenever. So I came in through
Speaker 2: the mall shot.
Speaker 4: Old no, hold the fuck oh in the upscalist area
Speaker 4: of there in a Forever twenty one, super fucking like.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be uh wow, how can I
Speaker 4: say this? I'm not trying to be racially bigoted, but
Speaker 4: like the White Woman shop here is where the shooting
Speaker 4: took place. These women lost their mind over a sweater deal.
Speaker 2: Allegedly, that's what that's what went down. So I I, uh,
Speaker 2: Forever twenty one. It's like double sided, so you can
Speaker 2: get to both sides of the mall if you just
Speaker 2: walk through Forever twenty one right at this. And so
Speaker 2: I was walking through Forever twenty one, and literally like
Speaker 2: ten steps after that, people were running out, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell's going on. So then
Speaker 2: I duck off and and I just go inside of
Speaker 2: a into an Adida store, and everybody's like hiding off
Speaker 2: in the back, and the managers are like, yo, let's
Speaker 2: go in the back where the inventory and all that
Speaker 2: shit's at. And we were hiding out in there, and
Speaker 2: everybody's like crying and hyperventilating and losing their shit. And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, dude. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, like whether I'm stressing out or I'm you know,
Speaker 2: remaining calm, it's it's what's gonna happen, is gonna happen,
Speaker 2: you know. So I wasn't really like too worried about
Speaker 2: it because I was like, I mean, if it's my time, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm kinda you know, I'm not gonna say I'm ready
Speaker 2: for it. But at the same time, like I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna be stressing out and everybody else is crying, like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and remain at least decently calm, and
Speaker 2: so ooh.
Speaker 3: This is different, bro. I'm looking at a report here
Speaker 3: from the Fox. Police are looking for whoever fired open
Speaker 3: fire at Katie.
Speaker 4: Mills Mall tonight.
Speaker 3: They say no one was shot, and they don't I
Speaker 3: saw one report saying one person was shot and the
Speaker 3: other fled the scene. Now I'm saying nobody was shot
Speaker 3: and they don't know why this shooter was firing. They
Speaker 3: saw two They say two white or Hispanic males came
Speaker 3: in together, one fired, and they left together.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know if it was in I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was in the mall or not,
Speaker 2: but whenever I was. So anyway, we're all ducking off.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of us that like hide off in
Speaker 2: the back of an Adida store inside the mall. Right,
Speaker 2: we're hanging out back there for like half an hour,
Speaker 2: forty five minutes or whatever. I have to call Louise say.
Speaker 4: To be during a shooting Jonathan an Adidas store.
Speaker 2: I mean it, no, it just happened to be the
Speaker 2: place where I decided to turn into I Actually I
Speaker 2: was in the back and I was asking them. I
Speaker 2: was like, what store is this? I didn't even know
Speaker 2: what store it was. I just like saw everybody going
Speaker 2: in there, so I just went. And so we were
Speaker 2: back there for like thirty or forty five minutes, and
Speaker 2: everybody's like crying and you know, losing their shit, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, we're fucking safe back here. There's nothing
Speaker 2: to worry about. Like they got they closed the doors,
Speaker 2: they locked it. We're in the back where the inventory's at.
Speaker 2: There's nothing to worry about.
Speaker 4: And people gotta calm down, dude.
Speaker 3: The worst case scenario is you die, and like at
Speaker 3: that point, it's no longer your fucking problem. So like, yo,
Speaker 3: It's okay, y'all. Even the worst case scenario is really
Speaker 3: not that bad.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. I was like, you know, whether
Speaker 2: you stress or not, it's gonna happen. That's the way
Speaker 2: I looked at it. And so anyway, we were back
Speaker 2: there for like thirty forty five minutes, and then I
Speaker 2: finally was able to go to the children's place. I
Speaker 2: go inside of the children's place and everybody's like, all right,
Speaker 2: we gotta lock back down. They didn't get them, we
Speaker 2: gotta lock back down. And I was like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck again? And so then I'm in the back of
Speaker 2: the inventory in the children's place, and I'm back there
Speaker 2: with like these like four or five people. It was
Speaker 2: really just people that work there and me.
Speaker 4: That was it.
Speaker 2: And we're back there for like another half an hour,
Speaker 2: forty five minutes something like that, and and they finally
Speaker 2: gave us the clear to go ahead. Dude, Whenever I
Speaker 2: finally got out of the mall, whenever I finally got out,
Speaker 2: holy shit, the amount of cops there were, a swat
Speaker 2: team that was there. They had the drones, the same
Speaker 2: drones that everybody had been seeing, same same shit up
Speaker 2: in the sky.
Speaker 4: What wait, a minute.
Speaker 3: Now, same exactly what time was this? Was it at
Speaker 3: night during the day? Very genuine question.
Speaker 4: It was that night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was only like two hours ago that I left.
Speaker 4: Now, now I have to ask you some questions.
Speaker 3: So you're saying this is confirmed police drones that you
Speaker 3: witnessed with your eyeballs. Wait, these aren't orbs, aren't aliens,
Speaker 3: you know, these are the cops that were controlling them undred.
Speaker 4: Percent right percent?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, how loud would you say they were?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: Guestimated because the don't hear them. They're pretty loud. It
Speaker 2: actually sounded like a helicopter.
Speaker 3: Okay, how did you see any like on the ground
Speaker 3: as they landed you saw a big they were or not?
Speaker 2: No, but they I could tell they weren't that high
Speaker 2: up in the sky, and I mean maybe maybe five
Speaker 2: hundred feet like not that high, right, And.
Speaker 4: So yeah, how big would you say they were?
Speaker 3: Like possibly size of car or definitely like something you
Speaker 3: could buy on Amazon?
Speaker 4: Like what do you what are you telling me?
Speaker 2: It's just so hard to gauge, like whenever you're looking
Speaker 2: at it from that aspective. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm like the worst at guestimating sizes and
Speaker 2: shit like that. But anyway, Uh so, yeah, I was
Speaker 2: out there and and I was kind of hoping that
Speaker 2: I would see some orbs because allegedly, where there's drones,
Speaker 2: there's orbs. So I was like looking around and I
Speaker 2: was like, let me, let me see something, and uh
Speaker 2: and I started looking around. I was like, I feel
Speaker 2: like a fucking idiot. Let me just go out to
Speaker 2: the car. And so I get out to the car
Speaker 2: and there was a guy that was next to me
Speaker 2: and he couldn't start his car and he was like,
Speaker 2: I got all this shit. There's fucking shooters running around everywhere.
Speaker 2: Now my truck won't start, and so I was like,
Speaker 2: I feel that let me let me help you out
Speaker 2: a little bit. Tried to jump them off and it
Speaker 2: wasn't working. So then I just drove him someplace so
Speaker 2: that he can go get picked up by his wife,
Speaker 2: and then I just came home.
Speaker 4: Okay, So pretty eventful night. Yeah that's kind of wild, dude.
Speaker 4: I mean I thought I was.
Speaker 3: Eventful because I was running around doing some last minute
Speaker 3: shopping and playing Santa Claus in this bitch, But like, nah,
Speaker 3: you had it.
Speaker 4: Going on, dude. Yeah, Will you please start carrying.
Speaker 2: I may have to. You know. What's funny is is
Speaker 2: that whenever I was on the phone Luisa and I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, active shooter here, I'm probably not gonna
Speaker 2: be able to pick up the baby from the daycare.
Speaker 2: And she was like, why are you so nonchalantly just
Speaker 2: saying that, you know? And I was like, I mean,
Speaker 2: do you want me to trip? Cause I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was a weird kind of sensation, like for some reason,
Speaker 2: like it felt like I was in a movie, but
Speaker 2: then in the back of my mind, I felt like
Speaker 2: that movie didn't matter. It was like a weird kind
Speaker 2: of I don't know. It was so strange. It not
Speaker 2: that I want to die. I'm not somebody that wants
Speaker 2: to die by any means, right, you know. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, I was like, I mean, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: this is how I go. I was pretty fucking badass,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: But I think you also didn't hear the gunshots like
Speaker 3: around the corner from where you were standing, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I never heard the gunshots.
Speaker 3: No, right, you at no point felt like you were
Speaker 3: in imminent or immediate danger. So like maybe that's why
Speaker 3: you were so nonchalant about it. Well it was that
Speaker 3: you did hear it, you would have had the same response.
Speaker 3: It's just been like, well, I mean if today's the day,
Speaker 3: then okay.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was that coupled with like I knew it was somebody,
Speaker 2: like just some somebody that got into a fight with somebody,
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like somebody was going there to snipe everybody.
Speaker 2: It was somebody that got into an altercation and then
Speaker 2: decided to shoot that person. Those are not the situations
Speaker 2: that you're like, oh my god, they're gonna turn around
Speaker 2: and spray on the crowd. Typically, that's not how that is.
Speaker 2: Like if somebody would have told me isis is in
Speaker 2: the building? Fucking I'm I'm really hiding for cover, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I'm gonna be trip on, hyperventilating,
Speaker 2: somebody get a brown bag, you know. Like, but if
Speaker 2: it's just somebody like that, I'm, you know, no big deal.
Speaker 3: In today's world, Like if you would have said there's
Speaker 3: an active terrorist in the mall with like what's going
Speaker 3: on with our political sphere, and that would crazy, like right, yeah,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, that wouldn't be crazy and absolutely you
Speaker 3: might have handled that a little different an active shooter.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, just one? Like all right, like okay, cool?
Speaker 2: Like how many how many bullets you got in there? Dude?
Speaker 2: You got thousands? Because it's probably not I.
Speaker 4: Mean, it's possible that they could carry mags.
Speaker 3: What's your boy of Virginia tech shooter didn't He only
Speaker 3: had like a nine mil pistol, but he had like
Speaker 3: thirteen fully loaded mags on him on that vest. So
Speaker 3: I mean it's but I see what you're saying. And
Speaker 3: so you were very cool about you were nonchalant, and
Speaker 3: I mean that's fine. But again, if that took place
Speaker 3: in a forever twenty one, bro, I'm gonna need to
Speaker 3: know they can't they don't have the shooter. There's no
Speaker 3: information at this time, but like I'm and I hope
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. I hope that there's no caucacity to be found.
Speaker 3: I hope this is like this was like Asian beef.
Speaker 3: I hope this was like two Vietnamese people going ham
Speaker 3: and got a little too mouthy with each other.
Speaker 4: I pray to.
Speaker 3: God that this is like two Jewish people going extra.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but like you know, maybe they get
Speaker 3: crazy about honkkah, the same way we get crazy about Christmas.
Speaker 2: I don't know who knows. I thought that it was
Speaker 2: very interesting the timing on that though, because so me
Speaker 2: and Jacob were trying to shoot a bunch of shows
Speaker 2: here here lately, because of, you know, the holidays, We're
Speaker 2: trying to really get ahead, and earlier we shot episode
Speaker 2: six six six literally earlier today, and then I experienced
Speaker 2: this crazy shit shooting at the mall right, So I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is really going on? And so yeah,
Speaker 2: spirit animal, what's up? Brother?
Speaker 5: Well, good afternoon, y'all, Marry chrish on happy holidays. But
Speaker 5: as y'all normally say, there is no coincidence. You fucked
Speaker 5: with the demon numbers and they try to get you,
Speaker 5: my guy, don't don't let the demons win.
Speaker 3: Oh, it might be something to doing it when we
Speaker 3: knock on the door, bro, you know, let me tell you.
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna give you another weird coincidence,
Speaker 2: like with these weird dates and numbers and shit. So
Speaker 2: it was I don't know if I should say this,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it anyway. So me and Sean we
Speaker 2: were gonna do an episode on Friday the thirteenth, like
Speaker 2: it was gonna be a Friday the thirteenth centric episode, excellent,
Speaker 2: and we were gonna be shooting it actually on Friday
Speaker 2: the thirteenth and releasing it because there was still gonna
Speaker 2: be one more Friday of the thirteenth for which was
Speaker 2: happening the next month I think, or the month after,
Speaker 2: and dude, and then fucking that day somebody close to
Speaker 2: him committed suicide. We were like, oh shit, all right,
Speaker 2: maybe we shouldn't do a Friday the thirteenth episode then.
Speaker 2: I mean, it could have been coincidental, could have been
Speaker 2: very coincidental. I'm just saying, like weird numbers and dates
Speaker 2: and shit like that. You know, it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: shouldn't look into the light, very the light, very variety
Speaker 2: of them, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because they
Speaker 2: just got a stain on them. There's something to be
Speaker 2: said for that, Like six sixty six has a stain
Speaker 2: to it, you know what I mean, Like, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter how much love and light you have sixty six.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows when you say six sixty six. Dude, I've
Speaker 2: seen people that'll go to the gas station or order
Speaker 2: something from fast food or whatever. And if their order
Speaker 2: comes out to six dollars and sixty six cents, they'll
Speaker 2: be like, uh uh uh, let me go get another drink,
Speaker 2: let me get another stack a snack or something like,
Speaker 2: I don't need that juju, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But and I'm not gonna say that there's nothing to that, Okay,
Speaker 3: so like, but but there also has to be some
Speaker 3: room for the coincidence of that. So there's people that
Speaker 3: absolutely choose what day they decide to off themselves, and like,
Speaker 3: maybe it is on Christmas Eve, maybe it is on
Speaker 3: four to twenty, like the Columbine shooters, for instance, And
Speaker 3: there's like an entire thought prop that goes into that,
Speaker 3: maybe because everybody's got their own shit, their own walks,
Speaker 3: their own struggles, and maybe that just was the random
Speaker 3: day and it just so happened to be around the
Speaker 3: time that this was happening too. I mean, I believe
Speaker 3: that sometimes they are connected, sometimes it is completely coincidental,
Speaker 3: and things like this, it's very messy and very difficult
Speaker 3: to say. I kind of try to leave leniency for
Speaker 3: both sides.
Speaker 2: I think I think Columbine like it was like thought
Speaker 2: out ahead of time because because it was Hitler's birthday.
Speaker 4: Wasn't it correct?
Speaker 7: Correct?
Speaker 2: Like that was why they chose that date one percent.
Speaker 3: Oh man, did you just see about that shooter, the
Speaker 3: kid who tried to do another Columbine that girl up
Speaker 3: in this is the first female school shooter. I think
Speaker 3: that has made headlines. That was interesting. That was a
Speaker 3: little different.
Speaker 2: Somebody busts off the pussy hats.
Speaker 3: She was wearing the same band T shirt that the
Speaker 3: Columbine shooters are wearing. No, she was like fangirling off
Speaker 3: of the Columbine shooters. And all she did was kill teacher,
Speaker 3: one other student, and then herself, So like didn't really
Speaker 3: accomplish the goal, but I guess enough to get your
Speaker 3: name in the papers and get seen as a massive
Speaker 3: piece of shit for the rest of all eternity'd be
Speaker 3: like cool.
Speaker 2: Whatever My thing is is that, like, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're planning on killing yourself, just kill yourself. Why do
Speaker 2: you gotta take other people out with you? Like Chris
Speaker 2: ben Wall style, which there is a conspiracy with Chris
Speaker 2: ben Wall. We'll talk about that eventually, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like themselves.
Speaker 3: She hated men she like and I don't mean just
Speaker 3: like these feminists that are like, fuck the patriarchy, we
Speaker 3: only need them for breeding. But no, no, no, like she
Speaker 3: like vehemently hated men and mankind. And I'm who knows
Speaker 3: what triggered that. Maybe there was nothing, maybe there was
Speaker 3: a thing. I don't know, but that was like the
Speaker 3: overarching theme of it. And if you read her fucking
Speaker 3: uh her journal or whatever, it wasn't that she hated
Speaker 3: men or boys because they were like mean to her.
Speaker 3: She hated them because they didn't pay her any attention.
Speaker 4: She was a thimb cell. So like, basically, since no
Speaker 4: man finds me attractive, fuck man entirely, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: kill people over it. Like it was. It was a
Speaker 4: very crazy, uh de evolution of the mind.
Speaker 2: Why don't you just like transition like all the other
Speaker 2: you know, ugly people do.
Speaker 3: Apparently she was like a quote unquote upstanding member of
Speaker 3: society until she decided to go liberal and then went extremists,
Speaker 3: and then somehow in the mix of all of that
Speaker 3: really fucked with the columnby and shooters and like saw
Speaker 3: that they made a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: It was a fucking it's a fiasco out here, man.
Speaker 2: I don't know why people like they love serial killers
Speaker 2: and and like psycho killers and and shit, like I
Speaker 2: don't understand the attraction the mentality towards that. You know,
Speaker 2: we've talked about it before about what was old, uh
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Dahmer, like how he was getting like literally fan
Speaker 2: mail while he was in jail. Motherfucker. Literally he just
Speaker 2: got done chewing off of a human butt talk. Probably
Speaker 2: I don't know what part he you know, he liked
Speaker 2: the most, but like I would imagine the ass and
Speaker 2: he's getting fan mail, Like, what the fuck is wrong
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's something going on, dude. And I
Speaker 3: know a lot of people have said it in a
Speaker 3: lot of different ways. Blake hear me out somebody looking
Speaker 3: into like somebody being into serial killer stuff because like
Speaker 3: maybe they're in college for psychology, you know, and like
Speaker 3: they find it actually interesting and that's why they watched
Speaker 3: these scenes to dig into the psychology of the killer
Speaker 3: and all that.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if you want to be into Freddy
Speaker 2: Krueger and Jason Voorhees, I get that that's fictional. It's
Speaker 2: not real, you know, but.
Speaker 3: I also put it in the same realm as like
Speaker 3: those stupid detective shows that keep popping up on TV
Speaker 3: every fucking six months. We have some new detective show
Speaker 3: that came up because we need another version of NCIS,
Speaker 3: We need another version of Law and Order.
Speaker 4: We need another version of like the Lucifer Show. I've
Speaker 4: talked about it before. They had the golden.
Speaker 3: Opportunity to take the character of Lucifer Morning Star and
Speaker 3: do a whole thing with him. Thirty seconds into the
Speaker 3: first episode. Uh oh he's a detective now, fucking why why.
Speaker 4: The fuck would you do that to Satan, make him
Speaker 4: do gangster shit? I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we needed another detective show of who
Speaker 3: done it? Who's the killer? Who's missing? Uh, it's like
Speaker 3: that so people have already. That's like the softcore porn
Speaker 3: version of it.
Speaker 4: If you will. People are like, ooh, who done it? Detective?
Speaker 4: Look at the mind? They then cut to fifteen years later.
Speaker 4: They really want to look at fucking uh you know,
Speaker 4: the serial killers for real, not just the TV ones
Speaker 4: that are portrayed, but based off of real stories. Law
Speaker 4: and Order's cool because it's based off of true events,
Speaker 4: But like, yo, have you heard about that dude Ted,
Speaker 4: who's like actually pretty good looking, who knew he's not.
Speaker 4: He's not.
Speaker 3: He's like objectively a six, but like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: but it's crazy this whole.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a little gay to even give
Speaker 2: a guy a number personally.
Speaker 3: But like, if you were to line your boy up
Speaker 3: with like all the other serial killers, I guess yeah,
Speaker 3: he would look.
Speaker 4: The most normal.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm sure he looks better than Dahmer, Right,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, as compared to John Wayne Gacy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, Okay, I could see Bundy maybe standing out
Speaker 3: of a crowd, but like not standing out of a
Speaker 3: crowd at the checkout line at Walmart. Like he would
Speaker 3: have been a very normal looking dude in that category.
Speaker 3: But everybody goes on about how good looking he is,
Speaker 3: and it's like they have instigated it years ago, trying
Speaker 3: to push detective shows onto people. Now people are obsessed
Speaker 3: with the mindset. You're not in psychology. What the fuck
Speaker 3: do you care what the mindset of John Wayne Gacy was.
Speaker 4: You don't work in psychology or anthropology or social work.
Speaker 4: You work at a gas station. Why are you fucking
Speaker 4: worried about the psychology of shit? I don't get it, dude.
Speaker 4: I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: You'd be working at Circle K wondering why Ted Bundy
Speaker 2: did what he did, Like I was.
Speaker 4: Working at a sugar refinery.
Speaker 7: You know what.
Speaker 4: I wasn't looking into murderers because I'm not a cop.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm telling spirited animal, go ahead, sir, knocking lot.
Speaker 6: I kind of feel targeted, like I obsessed.
Speaker 4: On well, I feel like I targeted a lot of
Speaker 4: people with that rant. It's fine, all of everybody. I'm
Speaker 4: stirring the pot, just.
Speaker 2: A little bit of judgment. That's all.
Speaker 6: Not a lot, at least for my sake.
Speaker 5: I look at it due to the psychological reasons, and
Speaker 5: it's kind of a selfish reason, mostly because there was
Speaker 5: actually a oh, he's not a serial killer, but my
Speaker 5: cousin did kill like five people in the spend of
Speaker 5: like three hours.
Speaker 4: And yeah, sam whoa, whoa whoa brother?
Speaker 7: Hold on amazing, all right?
Speaker 4: So in that, in that regard, Samuel, you get a pass.
Speaker 4: You're trying to understand what went on in your family
Speaker 4: member's mind to make him do what he did. That,
Speaker 4: do you, Samuel?
Speaker 6: So the context of that was a his old all right?
Speaker 4: So his uh, how Jerry Springer are we about to
Speaker 4: get brother.
Speaker 5: Uh. He nutted the fuck up, put his kids in
Speaker 5: the the uh in the bedroom, put cartoons on and
Speaker 5: gave him candy. He uh killed his wife and the
Speaker 5: mother in law because he caught uh his old lady,
Speaker 5: uh fucking somebody else.
Speaker 6: And yeah, no he has.
Speaker 5: Three like he Anyway, he ended up having a Shawnees
Speaker 5: and locked everybody in the Shawnees in a in a
Speaker 5: walk in freezer and uh he uh yeah, so he
Speaker 5: ended up getting three licenses plus.
Speaker 6: Two hundred and eighty nine years on.
Speaker 2: First cousin, Samuel, you come from a very colorful people.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Uh my family. Uh.
Speaker 5: In the eighties, my papa and his brothers were out
Speaker 5: in Texas.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Yeah, my father made like a million bucks. Anyway,
Speaker 5: he's gave it or all. He dive it up and
Speaker 5: gave around away from the eighties and the family projects.
Speaker 6: Anyway, Papa died pretty much pennyless.
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, Papa and his older brothers they got
Speaker 5: one out of Texas because when my great uncle Dowey
Speaker 5: got beat to death and thrown out of the back
Speaker 5: of a truck in Texas, they wind story short, they
Speaker 5: hunted the people down and the sheriff gave them a
Speaker 5: told them, hey, y'all can quietly leave Texas now. But yeah, no, Dewey,
Speaker 5: my uncle Douey when he was in he fought in
Speaker 5: over Vietnam. I don't know what outfit he was in,
Speaker 5: but he did the ship that you know that people
Speaker 5: would probably.
Speaker 6: Classify as war crimes now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, So my papa's family, my dad's side, has
Speaker 5: talked tall seminole and blackfoot blood.
Speaker 6: Uncle Dory took scalps in Vietnam.
Speaker 4: So you know what, I'm actually kind of pissed.
Speaker 3: They took away the whole war trophy thing like this
Speaker 3: has been done since the Dawn of Man.
Speaker 5: Officially taken away. But that don't mean that shit don't happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're stupor from what I've been told, they
Speaker 3: are super strict and they check your shit specifically because
Speaker 3: they had dudes trying to come back from Afghanistan with
Speaker 3: like ear necklaces and shit like they were a non
Speaker 3: which like, look, I support, I'm here for more tooth
Speaker 3: Like you want to knock a tooth out, you want
Speaker 3: to make a necklace when you get home? Look, I
Speaker 3: get it, do you you know you take whatever war
Speaker 3: booty you choose, but that's golder body parts.
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, no, people get some type of way
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 5: I consider my scar on my knuckle out here. I
Speaker 5: don't know if you can see it, but I considered
Speaker 5: it a war trophy. I got in a fist white
Speaker 5: with two other Marines and a drunken stupor in the
Speaker 5: showers anyway, a dude's tooth waiting my knuckle. I hit
Speaker 5: him onof I thought it was my bone sticking out,
Speaker 5: so I try to push it in. But yeah, no,
Speaker 5: it was his tooth.
Speaker 2: Group huggind the showers, honey badger, don't give a shit
Speaker 2: what a brother?
Speaker 7: Yo? Hey, don't be uh sack dad.
Speaker 8: We can't get no war trophies when war happened on
Speaker 8: our on our soil. I'm collecting ball sacks in ears.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah no, if it's a body taking on this soil, oh.
Speaker 8: Yes, I'm cutting off ball sacks and making nun chuck chucks.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 4: Geneva convention no longer applies when it's my backyard.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be straight up with y'all. Every every dirty
Speaker 3: trick in the book is being used.
Speaker 8: I'm i'm uh, I'm water boarding with bleach and fucking
Speaker 8: putting plungers of basses.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 3: I was gonna make them funnel like butt chug of
Speaker 3: four loco and then see what they're about.
Speaker 8: But you know, Joe, nah, check it out. Get a
Speaker 8: bunch of MRI cheese right.
Speaker 3: Oh God, whatever you're about to say is diabolical, sir.
Speaker 8: So they asshole cloth and feed them mr cheese for
Speaker 8: like a week and feed them x flex.
Speaker 4: Ye okay, I like your idea.
Speaker 2: It's like giving mentos to a pigeon or some shit, right, but.
Speaker 4: Then cutting off an ear. Yeah, no, for the trophy
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 2: I get it. Actually, me and Luisa were just talking
Speaker 2: about this the other day, like, what would happen if
Speaker 2: you know, somebody, uh like a sex trafficker came and
Speaker 2: you know, saw her at a target or something like that.
Speaker 2: I said, you know what on like like low key,
Speaker 2: like the sick, twisted mind of mine actually hopes that
Speaker 2: that happens one day and that I'm there that like
Speaker 2: they don't see me, you know, because dude, if that happens,
Speaker 2: it's it's a free for all. There's nothing that says like,
Speaker 2: there's there's nothing that I can't do to you like
Speaker 2: I I'm not gay and I would never I don't
Speaker 2: even I don't even like where And yes, I dude,
Speaker 2: I don't even like anal from a woman personally. But
Speaker 2: I will fuck a man in the ass if he
Speaker 2: tries to traffic any but any of my family members.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Assert donin. It's an assert it quickly. That's just the
Speaker 3: rule of law here all. I'm gonna be honest. It's
Speaker 3: not like out in a parking lot of something. But like, yo,
Speaker 3: if my house ever gets broken into, same vibe with
Speaker 3: you right now, Like I hope to god it never happens.
Speaker 3: But if it does, like why would I call the police? No,
Speaker 3: no one knows he's there. I have him to myself
Speaker 3: and I have a flash bang and a tomahawk and
Speaker 3: all of the time on earth that I see fit. However,
Speaker 3: with that being said, and you are talking about ask
Speaker 3: fucking a guy, did you hear about what happened recently?
Speaker 4: And I want to say, was Britain?
Speaker 3: This dude broke into a house. Count Dankia just released
Speaker 3: a video one which is the only reason.
Speaker 4: Why I know about this right, long story short, homeboy
Speaker 4: breaks into a house, wrong fucking house to break into,
Speaker 4: because the guys inside are mest out of their mind
Speaker 4: and like they weren't exactly looking for a fight, but like, boy, oh.
Speaker 3: Boy, did he kick in the wrong door that night,
Speaker 3: so they beat the fuck out of him. He The
Speaker 3: police came the next day for an unrelated event, Like
Speaker 3: no one knew that the body was there until they
Speaker 3: found guy under a tarp with his pants pulled down
Speaker 3: mid thigh and he had clearly been raped, and also
Speaker 3: a skull had been caved in with a baseball bat.
Speaker 3: Now we're not sure in which order these events took place,
Speaker 3: but we do know that one guilty party's DNA, who
Speaker 3: didn't even live at that house. He was just a
Speaker 3: homeboy that happened to be there smoking meth with him
Speaker 3: that night, and he just decided.
Speaker 9: Like, oh, you gonna come up in my Holway's house
Speaker 9: with my friends, and like he just decided to handle
Speaker 9: the fucking problem on behalf of his homeboy, the homeowner.
Speaker 9: And apparently, you know how it goes when when there's
Speaker 9: no rules and nobody knows that there's a person there
Speaker 9: who's clearly the guilty party. However, the guy got no
Speaker 9: time for the murder. He did get four years for
Speaker 9: the sexual assault, but he got zero time for the murder,
Speaker 9: so you know, really, yeah, it's still sexual assault, big dog.
Speaker 2: Huh. That's interesting now able.
Speaker 4: To convince the cops that you couldn't it was in
Speaker 4: sensual that you had gay sex with him before his
Speaker 4: skull got carved in, which, like, I mean, if you
Speaker 4: want to play that with the jury, b I do you?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, sometimes you gotta get a little wild,
Speaker 2: honey badger. I have a feeling you don't give a
Speaker 2: shit about this.
Speaker 7: Oh you know, I fucking know from my home defense.
Speaker 8: I got a crossbowt so yeah, I'm going to invest
Speaker 8: in some rock salt round. So motherfucker, do break it
Speaker 8: to my house. I do to Alex Murphy treatment for
Speaker 8: RoboCop on his ass. I just stamped over him the
Speaker 8: low rock boat on his ass. Yeah, love because of
Speaker 8: non lethal.
Speaker 4: No, it is not. It is super non lethal.
Speaker 7: Hey, it's rock thing like shit, Hey, that's it.
Speaker 4: I will say. If you put it directly to the skull,
Speaker 4: it may become lethal. But easy to load in the
Speaker 4: shell too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, legs, stomach and ash, cheeks.
Speaker 2: I like it that seems like a solid way to
Speaker 2: go flash bangs.
Speaker 3: Dude, they are cheap, and I will give everybody a
Speaker 3: little bit of a clue on this, Like I was
Speaker 3: looking for the longest time where to buy flash bangs
Speaker 3: without raising alarm or suspicion. Airsoft flash bangs are in
Speaker 3: fact like one step below actual police grade flash bangs,
Speaker 3: and they have larger versions and stronger versions for the
Speaker 3: principle of Airsoft that you can absolutely buy with no license,
Speaker 3: no background checks, and they can be delivered to your
Speaker 3: door now depending on what country they're made in.
Speaker 4: For a good while there, the Russians were kind of
Speaker 4: honing in on the market of Airsoft flash bangs, but
Speaker 4: ever since their special military operation.
Speaker 3: We have not seen a single Russian company produce one
Speaker 3: for the regular market. But yes, and I have tested them,
Speaker 3: and there's tons of videos on YouTube about name brand
Speaker 3: Airsoft flash.
Speaker 4: Bangs for cheap. I highly recommend all of the good
Speaker 4: cult members do a quick little Judi search and have
Speaker 4: some fun this New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: Well you know what else you could do too, is
Speaker 2: and I've I don't know if this actually works, but
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people say they've tried it is.
Speaker 2: You can freeze paintballs. Oh it hurt like a bitch.
Speaker 2: I mean, just just paintballs up close, like with not
Speaker 2: a thick clothing. The shit kind of hurts depending on
Speaker 2: the gun, but like freeze them. Dude, Fuck, that's gotta suck.
Speaker 8: It's some sim rowls to the sim rals we used
Speaker 8: to train waiting past. The motherfuckers suck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, sim rounds really do suck, especially if get
Speaker 3: them in the knuckles and around the eyes. That's the
Speaker 3: fucking elbow, fucking right, you know, on the joints, the
Speaker 3: hard knucks. But but then at that point, if the
Speaker 3: police ever did find the body, if which I know
Speaker 3: we all know how to dispose of such things, but
Speaker 3: if it's.
Speaker 4: A lot harder to explain why you sim rounds. But again,
Speaker 4: a tomahawk and a strobe light, for instance, is yeah, yeah, Samuel.
Speaker 5: Which so I have a hatchet, I have nunchucks and
Speaker 5: a katana all by my bed, but I also keep
Speaker 5: the nine mil under the pillar.
Speaker 6: But if y'all really want to get down a dirty
Speaker 6: if somebody breaks in your house, don't do any of that.
Speaker 5: Take you, as Mr Spoon, You're gonna try to aim
Speaker 5: for the eyes.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Sam, Sam, I love you. But there's only
Speaker 3: been one confirmed Mr. Spoon killing ever in the history
Speaker 3: of mankind. There's the chances of you being the second.
Speaker 4: There's greater than zero. But big dog, we are talking
Speaker 4: about a very select star alignment to make this happen.
Speaker 5: I have I'm trying to set up my lights in
Speaker 5: my house to where I in my from my room,
Speaker 5: I can hit a dim switch and all my lights
Speaker 5: start doing a strobe light between red and white.
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna have it set up playing.
Speaker 5: Either fortunate Son or or do you remember the formal?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it is not gonna be pretty. I have,
Speaker 5: I have everything planned out.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 5: Also, if you get a roomba and all, and you
Speaker 5: can just just very carefully have that set out where
Speaker 5: it's locked away unless you want it. Oh, all you
Speaker 5: need is a couple of blasting caps, a tin can
Speaker 5: and marbles.
Speaker 6: You can have your very own Claymore broomber.
Speaker 4: Allegedly, that's a very allegedly true statement you just said, Samuel.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know it's some people like the Claymore roomba.
Speaker 3: I myself in one of those. I wouldn't want that
Speaker 3: bitch just cruising my house unless I knew that there
Speaker 3: was guaranteed a assailant in there.
Speaker 4: But I like where your head's.
Speaker 6: At point point and click for pink mist.
Speaker 2: There you go, honey badger.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 8: Also, you can super glue a deckhead clothes and have
Speaker 8: them drink vodka and cranberry.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 8: Oh my favorite is having a wire hangers put on
Speaker 8: a stove for like forty five minutes and sticking to
Speaker 8: the ad they dickle.
Speaker 2: You know what, dude, leave it up to the Marines
Speaker 2: and probably the best case of CTE than anybody's ever
Speaker 2: seen to really come up with all of these fucking sick,
Speaker 2: demented things that we would do to an intruder.
Speaker 4: This is what we would sit around and talk about.
Speaker 3: Now, you gotta understand the military, not just Marines, although
Speaker 3: I would say indicatively we work. We're about that one
Speaker 3: up life, you know what I mean. We're not about
Speaker 3: getting even, We're about one uping. So especially whenever we're
Speaker 3: hanging with like soldiers or with Navy dudes, it's like
Speaker 3: we're going to have to one up them on the
Speaker 3: sick and disgusting metric, because that's just what we do.
Speaker 4: But in the military, it's a lot of hurry up
Speaker 4: and wait. Okay, so it's like, hurry up and be
Speaker 4: somewhere for zero four hundred, which is four am, and
Speaker 4: then you sit around with nothing to do until zero nine,
Speaker 4: when the fucking building opens that you formed up outside
Speaker 4: of to do whatever the fuck needed to be done
Speaker 4: that day.
Speaker 3: So like for five hours you're doing nothing. You can't
Speaker 3: go anywhere, you may or may not even have cell
Speaker 3: service because most of the bases suck at that, so
Speaker 3: you're left to just sit there and talk about anything
Speaker 3: and everything, and so like you know those bullshit of
Speaker 3: well it's not correct to speak about politics and religion
Speaker 3: and these things of work. No, no, no, we're talking
Speaker 3: about anything and everything. We had entire zombie survival plans
Speaker 3: based off of where we were currently, where we were stationed,
Speaker 3: where we lived back home. We talked after live shit,
Speaker 3: we talked what happens if dot dot dot an intruder,
Speaker 3: somebody assaults our woman, uh you name it, name it.
Speaker 3: We have absolutely worked out every scenario, at least while
Speaker 3: we were in the Marines, one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Also, right, take a grapefruit.
Speaker 8: Hey, you know them thick ass boot socks right being
Speaker 8: at a you know, and put that bitch and some
Speaker 8: water grapefruit in that ship and freeze it.
Speaker 7: And if you pour they nuts out, will just bangle
Speaker 7: their nuts with it.
Speaker 4: God damn, you're making a war club out of a
Speaker 4: grapefruit in a sock. Holy fuck, don't like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that is my favorite weapon, spike mat, that is
Speaker 7: my baby.
Speaker 6: I'll do you if you take all.
Speaker 5: So take you the big rope from like you can
Speaker 5: go track to supply it like a sailing rigging.
Speaker 6: You take that. You tie you a monkey fist on
Speaker 6: one side with a pool ball in the middle.
Speaker 5: Soak it for two days straight and salt water, let
Speaker 5: it dry out. Have him strapped to a to the
Speaker 5: an old school outhouse seat, I don't know. And whether
Speaker 5: they're shi can hang blow and you just smack the
Speaker 5: ship out of it. But on top of that you
Speaker 5: can boil loube hold them out open end and pull
Speaker 5: it down the throat boiling oil.
Speaker 3: That's more medieval, brother, But you're right about that, though,
Speaker 3: I will say the monkeys fist.
Speaker 4: Around the ball.
Speaker 3: So whenever I was the vice president of a motorcycle club.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, in Virginia on my uh,
Speaker 3: on my clutch, I actually had hanging uh.
Speaker 4: It was like five fifty cords like braid and at
Speaker 4: the bottom I had a ball bearing with a monkey's
Speaker 4: fist and I had it in my club colors. I
Speaker 4: smacked that on many a windshield in many a hood
Speaker 4: when people would drive like assholes because I'm on a bike,
Speaker 4: You're in a car.
Speaker 3: You have more protection than me. And I kind of
Speaker 3: left my give a fucks at home. So I'm with
Speaker 3: you one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: With a fish of hook as a spider wire.
Speaker 11: Yo.
Speaker 3: Although speaking about explosives, I wanted to and Tony, you're
Speaker 3: you're here this evening, I wanted to ask you about this.
Speaker 3: The Russian head of weapons of mass destruction was just
Speaker 3: assassinated outside of I'm not sure if it was his
Speaker 3: home or what.
Speaker 4: And the way which it was done.
Speaker 3: The explosives planted inside of an electric scooter left by
Speaker 3: the wayside.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on this? Do you believe that
Speaker 4: it was one hundred percent Ukraine that was behind it?
Speaker 4: Do you think it might have been somebody home bound
Speaker 4: like an internal threat type of thing, A Russian did it?
Speaker 4: What do you what do your take on it.
Speaker 12: I wish I had a more informed opinion. I did
Speaker 12: see a video of the explosion going off.
Speaker 4: So you saw that footage? Yeah, yeah, do we lose them?
Speaker 12: A couple of other things out of Russia. Did you
Speaker 12: see that some high ride building got attacked by I
Speaker 12: guess you groaned that just flew into it and exploded.
Speaker 4: Becoming a new thing related. Yeah, But like.
Speaker 12: I was FaceTime with with my in laws yesterday about
Speaker 12: just random Christmas stuff, and towards the end, my father
Speaker 12: in law gets he said, hey, hey, check this out.
Speaker 7: Did you see Russia?
Speaker 12: The Russian parliament is relegalizing and recognizing polygamous marriages because
Speaker 12: they've lost so many men and they got to replace
Speaker 12: their population. And I just said, man, I kind of
Speaker 12: doubt it. And he said, but I see it in
Speaker 12: the headlines. Is right here, it's right here. I said,
Speaker 12: I don't know, I really doubt it. Everyone else on
Speaker 12: the call was just kind of keeping silent, and I said,
Speaker 12: is this in like Chechnya or something, because I know
Speaker 12: Muslims in most of the world they do have legal
Speaker 12: polygamy everywhere. And I was like, if this is a
Speaker 12: Muslim thing, I can kind of almost see it. He
Speaker 12: said no, no, this is everywhere, and I said, okay, well,
Speaker 12: I'm going to look this up. And then, you know,
Speaker 12: one minute after we got off the phone, I looked
Speaker 12: at it up and it's like I was right. I
Speaker 12: had not looked into this at all. But it's just
Speaker 12: my instinct. It's like, yeah, there's some Muslim authority in there,
Speaker 12: say it would be like the LDS Church here saying
Speaker 12: let's have it. It's like, Okay, that's believable, but that's
Speaker 12: not the whole country.
Speaker 3: Russia hasn't lost enough numbers to justify legalizing polygamy, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, not by any stretch. Now, if
Speaker 3: they lose half to two thirds of their population, If
Speaker 3: any country lost that much of their population and they
Speaker 3: had that discussion, at least I could understand.
Speaker 4: But like you said, I could believe this one hundred
Speaker 4: percent in Cheshnia.
Speaker 3: But that's also very culturally already not already a thing there,
Speaker 3: But like, it's not the craziest thing that the Islamic
Speaker 3: leaders of the territory of Cheeshnia would implement by any means.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, well, anyway, that's that's all the attention, that's all
Speaker 12: I can call to mind right now about Russia or
Speaker 12: anything over there, except there's the whole German car market attack.
Speaker 12: I guess there are five fatalities. I'm sure you almost
Speaker 12: have seen.
Speaker 3: That, mm hmmm, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: Was that in Germany or was that in Russia for
Speaker 4: German cars?
Speaker 12: Oh, that was in Germany. That was in Gottberg. It's
Speaker 12: in Socks and Anhalt, it's kind of in the middle
Speaker 12: of Germany. And it was this Saudi ex Muslim, and
Speaker 12: nobody can really make because he's not Muslim. He was atheist,
Speaker 12: and he was trying to get people out of Islam
Speaker 12: and trying to get more people to leave the Gulf
Speaker 12: region and leave Islam and come to Europe. And he
Speaker 12: was pissed off because he thought that the German government
Speaker 12: was persecuting some of these these Muslim apostates. And I
Speaker 12: don't know exactly who he was talking about, but.
Speaker 3: He agnostic extremist. We don't see many of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 12: He seemed like atheist, and he was a self described leftist.
Speaker 12: So it's like a news cactus. Nobody wants to touch it, really,
Speaker 12: but some people want to say, oh, look he's Muslim,
Speaker 12: and it's like, well, no, that's right, And then the
Speaker 12: left wants to say he tweeted a couple of tweets
Speaker 12: and support of the far right party at AfD in Germany,
Speaker 12: but he wasn't that. Yeah, it's hard to figure out
Speaker 12: what he was, but he tweeted a bunch of stuff
Speaker 12: about he actually liked Israel for some reason. Now, I
Speaker 12: don't think that Israel deserves to be blamed for this,
Speaker 12: because he was just this weird schizo maniac. But like
Speaker 12: Elon Musk, you know, he took down the profile for
Speaker 12: a day or two and then put it up with
Speaker 12: like most of the juiciest stuff deleted. So I thought
Speaker 12: that was not very cool. The screenshot of it before
Speaker 12: he did that.
Speaker 3: It makes sense the liberal media wouldn't touch this because
Speaker 3: if they do, it just shows what far left extremism
Speaker 3: looks like, and or the atheist extremist or that you're right,
Speaker 3: this is this is like a pr nightmare for them.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like a it's like a news cactus.
Speaker 3: I like how you said that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I just wonder who he was associating
Speaker 12: with and who might have nudged him in this direction.
Speaker 12: But you have no way of knowing.
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt, I don't know, man, It's there's
Speaker 3: wild shit going on around the world.
Speaker 4: The Russian dude getting assassinated. I was actually just watching
Speaker 4: about that before we before we shot, so I just
Speaker 4: saw the same footage. It looked like a dash cam almost,
Speaker 4: And the story as of this moment, which who knows
Speaker 4: how much of this is based in reality, how much
Speaker 4: of it's been spun whatever they're saying that apparently the
Speaker 4: dude had like five sticks of dynamite inside of an
Speaker 4: electric scooter that was just carelessly left on the sidewalk
Speaker 4: in front of this building. And like, I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 4: before the explosion.
Speaker 3: I didn't see anything that would have stood out to
Speaker 3: me personally. I guess I wasn't looking for it, but
Speaker 3: either way, and it goes kaboom and then they didn't
Speaker 3: like to centigrade them. Whatever happened, he and the dude
Speaker 3: that was walking with him, they discovered later like were
Speaker 3: just laying there dead, Like they weren't blown into bits
Speaker 3: or anything, but although the size of the explosion made
Speaker 3: me think that they would have been. And now there's
Speaker 3: Ukraine is like boldly saying, yep, we did it and
Speaker 3: there's more to come.
Speaker 4: But then there's a whole other side of that coin
Speaker 4: saying that like, ah, we really don't know, like who's
Speaker 4: really using T and T as a main source of
Speaker 4: an explosive, you know, like nobody uses that anymore. It's
Speaker 4: more C four semtech or other types of plastic explosives
Speaker 4: can't be but not many people fuck around with actual
Speaker 4: old school dynamite anymore.
Speaker 3: So it's I don't exactly know which way to take this,
Speaker 3: but this dude was the head of weapons of mass
Speaker 3: destruction for Russia, and yes, people immediately think that that
Speaker 3: means nukes, and it does, but there's also a chemical
Speaker 3: component of it. And Russia has become under fire lately
Speaker 3: for using essentially tear gas, and they're saying it's a
Speaker 3: chemical biological agent but it's non lethal, Like, yeah, people
Speaker 3: could die from and if you uh, if the dude's
Speaker 3: got asthma, you know what I mean, But it's not
Speaker 3: it's tear gas. Like people are trying to fry them
Speaker 3: for war crimes for this, and I'm like, that's police
Speaker 3: riot shit if I'm not mistaken, but yeah, it's wild shit,
Speaker 3: And somehow him being the head of the WMD Department
Speaker 3: needed to go.
Speaker 4: I don't fucking know.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, gas weapons, Yeah, that's very controversial, and I
Speaker 12: guess this is just in that gray area where it
Speaker 12: is escalatory and it could result in more escalation and
Speaker 12: more gas weapons, and I sure hope it doesn't. Obviously.
Speaker 12: It's kind of weird how you know, there were Geneva Convention,
Speaker 12: it's trying to ban that stuff before World War One,
Speaker 12: and then World War One happened and everyone was using
Speaker 12: them and somehow, you know, world War two was worse
Speaker 12: than World War One, but only the Japanese to my knowledge,
Speaker 12: actually used chemical weapons in World War Two. And yeah,
Speaker 12: the Russians and the Germans. The Germans had tons of
Speaker 12: it and they didn't use it. The British had tons,
Speaker 12: and Churchill wanted to use it, but his you know,
Speaker 12: Joint chiefs or whatever advised them against it. So that's
Speaker 12: a line that it's kind of strange, was not crossed
Speaker 12: in World War Two in Europe for some reason.
Speaker 3: But even still, it's like they're using tear gas. This
Speaker 3: is the shit that's used for riot control. Like it's
Speaker 3: not that big of a deal. I have been gassed
Speaker 3: at boot camp and then later on the gas chamber. Again, Yo,
Speaker 3: it's not it's not the a fate worse than death, Like,
Speaker 3: You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4: It sucks for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Your eyes water, you feel like you have a really
Speaker 3: bad sunburn, and it feels like you're inhaling needles.
Speaker 4: But like you can inhale, you can x hate, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's like, so to say that
Speaker 4: using that as a war crime is like, so when
Speaker 4: the cops use it on riders, that's a war crime.
Speaker 12: I don't Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 12: But also in the news, did you see an F
Speaker 12: eighteen was lost near Yemen but the pilots both survived.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard that that was a quote unquote training exercise.
Speaker 3: And boy, oh boy, if they don't want to actually
Speaker 3: kickstart World War three, them motherfuckers better stick to that
Speaker 3: story because if the Hooti Rebels actually down a American
Speaker 3: F eighteen there is that's it.
Speaker 4: Like a whole unholy hell will be unleashed.
Speaker 3: So they got to stick to this story to keep
Speaker 3: up the public appearance, to keep America out of war.
Speaker 4: It's a fucking mess.
Speaker 12: Go ahead, Sam, Yeah, okay, well I'll kind of mute
Speaker 12: myself now, but great talking to you guys again.
Speaker 2: No, sorry, I wouldn't try to cut you off.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: I just saw Sam and raise his hand a couple
Speaker 2: of times.
Speaker 12: All right, Sam, what do you got?
Speaker 6: I'm sorry? How we want? They shot down on our planes.
Speaker 4: As of currently, and faighteen was lost in a somehow
Speaker 4: routine training exercise, which is the usual mumbo jumbo.
Speaker 3: And the pilots are fine, they ejected. Okay, so, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you now. Is it possible
Speaker 3: that this is a true story that maintenance on this
Speaker 3: plane did not go according to plan because people gaffed
Speaker 3: off and pencil whip their pms and things like this,
Speaker 3: and the plane went down. Yes, I personally know three
Speaker 3: pilots that have been have gone down and lost their
Speaker 3: planes due to maintenance failures that later ended in like
Speaker 3: people losing their careers and stuff.
Speaker 4: But the pilots lived. So could this be something like this? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is it? Jacob? Sure the fuck doesn't think so.
Speaker 3: Jacob thinks that this was, if not from Yemen, from
Speaker 3: somebody else, because that's the whole area right now is
Speaker 3: a hotbed for a lot of reasons. Iran's popping off.
Speaker 3: Yemen's popping off with their own civil warshit. Syria has
Speaker 3: completely fallen. God knows what's gonna happen to that. So,
Speaker 3: like anything happening in that area, could go a couple
Speaker 3: of different directions.
Speaker 2: But you're about to love this article, then let's go.
Speaker 2: This is my RT So that's Russian. But it says
Speaker 2: US shoots down own jet while bombing Yemen.
Speaker 3: Ha ha oh, so this is the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Speaker 3: But then they ran the story that it was a
Speaker 3: training exercise, so they thought about running it and then
Speaker 3: said nevermind.
Speaker 4: Thank you Mother Russia for clarifying our issues for US.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad we have them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, it says, well, this is actually US Central Command.
Speaker 2: It says scent Calm conducts air strikes against Ira back
Speaker 2: to Hoothy missile storage and command control facilities in Yemen, Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 2: US Central Command Forces conducted precision airstrikes against a missile
Speaker 2: storage facility and a command and control facility operated.
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, okay, I know what they're about to say,
Speaker 3: and I please scroll down hopefully along here, but actually
Speaker 3: say that it was an American rocket that was being
Speaker 3: shot at an American plane for testing purposes to see
Speaker 3: if it could evade, and something went wrong with its system,
Speaker 3: and oh oh, the rocket's really gonna hit us.
Speaker 4: So thankfully the pilots ejected and it's all good, says.
Speaker 2: During the operation, sent Coon forces also shot down multiple
Speaker 2: Hoothy one way attack uncrewed aerial vehicles and an anti
Speaker 2: ship cruise missile over the Red Sea. The operation involved
Speaker 2: US Air Force and US Navy assets, including FA eighteens.
Speaker 2: Hours later, the US military admitted that the US Gettysburg
Speaker 2: USS Gettysburg had in quotes, mistakenly fired on the FA eighteen,
Speaker 2: but did not specify which weapon was used to shoot
Speaker 2: it down. An investigation is currently underway to determine the
Speaker 2: exact circumstances of the incident. The commander of the cruiser
Speaker 2: serves as the Air Defense Commander for the strike group
Speaker 2: responsible for detecting and neutralizing incoming threats. American forces, along
Speaker 2: with several allies, have been conducting Operation Prosperity Guardian, a
Speaker 2: mission to protect merchant traffic in the Red Sea and
Speaker 2: Golf of Aden Aiden Aiden Gulf of Aiden from Hoothy
Speaker 2: threats for the past fourteen months. The group claims to
Speaker 2: have downed several MQ nine reapers, but the loss of
Speaker 2: the FA eighteen marks the first time accrued American aircraft
Speaker 2: was lost during the mission.
Speaker 3: Well, uh, if big big capital if on that, if
Speaker 3: that story is true, then somebody's gonna get fucked over this, Okay, somebody.
Speaker 2: I did go to Green Winnie, I did go to
Speaker 2: Yandex for that. By the way.
Speaker 4: Fair enough, Now that was a Russian story, and I mean,
Speaker 4: we got to contest the source and all these things.
Speaker 4: But it's not like our source of the United States
Speaker 4: government is giving us any better information. Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: So I like being lied to by my own daddy,
Speaker 2: not somebody else's daddy.
Speaker 4: I do, honestly.
Speaker 3: I want to hear what the other daddy has to
Speaker 3: say about things, for sure, But like I want to
Speaker 3: be lied to by my own That's just me. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm maybe I'm just a little too patriotic for my
Speaker 3: own good.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But either way, let's say that it's correct. Right, Let's
Speaker 3: say that it wasn't even a training exercise. It was
Speaker 3: while they were bombing rebels and they accidentally because by
Speaker 3: the way, all of our aircraft have markers on them.
Speaker 3: They can clearly be identified by you know, all of
Speaker 3: our radars inspector that looks for this type of shit.
Speaker 3: So there's like a allmost zero percent chance that an
Speaker 3: American weapon success locked on to an American plane and
Speaker 3: like nobody stopped it. So whatever, whatever human error is
Speaker 3: a thing, and let's try to go down that road.
Speaker 3: If that's true, somebody's getting fucked over this. If it's
Speaker 3: not true, and the quote unquote bad guys, depending on
Speaker 3: your version of bad shot down a American plane, America
Speaker 3: would then be forced to send troops and go into
Speaker 3: a full scale military operation and it wouldn't be air strikes.
Speaker 4: You shot down a plane that came from one of
Speaker 4: our boats. Number one rule of America is don't fuck
Speaker 4: with our boats like that. I at this point you
Speaker 4: might get nuked. The last people to fuck with our
Speaker 4: boats we opened the sun on them twice. Like I
Speaker 4: don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: The only people allowed to fuck with our boats is us.
Speaker 4: Clearly, yes, we will blow up our own boats.
Speaker 3: We may blame you for but like if you actually
Speaker 3: touch our boats like son, your great grandchildren will speak
Speaker 3: legends of the disgusting things we did to you like
Speaker 3: this is it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: It's like off of the Wolf of Wall Street Jonah
Speaker 2: Hill's like nobody fucks my cousin except for me, all right,
Speaker 2: Like you're not about to fuck my cousin. Uh, spirit animal,
Speaker 2: go ahead, buddy, brush off?
Speaker 6: For in the Alabama bonding moment? Was that? But second?
Speaker 13: Oh if it no, I see we turn the the
Speaker 13: desert needs to be we introduced to sodom and goodmore
Speaker 13: fuck with our ships or fuck with our planes.
Speaker 6: Your ass is going back to the Stone Age. I
Speaker 6: thought we settled this seventy fucking years ago.
Speaker 4: We don't have many rules as far as the world's concerned,
Speaker 4: but like one unchanged rule is don't fuck with America's ships.
Speaker 4: And somehow here we are.
Speaker 5: There's four things I have come to know in my
Speaker 5: short twenty five years of life. You don't pissing them in,
Speaker 5: You don't tug on Superman's cake, you don't.
Speaker 6: You do not steal alcohol from your parents.
Speaker 5: And fourth, don't fuck with America's ships.
Speaker 3: It's a very strange specific list, Samuel, But at the
Speaker 3: same time those are not bad rules to live by.
Speaker 4: Gonna be honest.
Speaker 2: Speaking of deserts. Though, there's this quote that I that
Speaker 2: I saw earlier, and it's great. It's by this dude,
Speaker 2: Milton Friedman, and he said, if you put the federal
Speaker 2: government in charge of the Sahara Desert in five years,
Speaker 2: there'd be a shortage of sand. Sounds about right, hm,
Speaker 2: I agree?
Speaker 3: Which actually, we need to do an episode on the
Speaker 3: sand market. I had no idea the amount of conspiracy
Speaker 3: and controversy.
Speaker 4: And money and murder and corporate.
Speaker 3: Espionage and government espionage and all that involved with buying
Speaker 3: and selling and trading sand.
Speaker 2: How did sand get there? Jacob? In the first place,
Speaker 2: there's a there's a theory on that as well. Wait,
Speaker 2: what how did all this sand get there? Where did
Speaker 2: it all come from?
Speaker 3: Like that's I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, Bake.
Speaker 3: That's like asking me how did Mount Everest get there?
Speaker 3: Like what do you what do you mean? Well, the
Speaker 3: how did the dirt get there?
Speaker 2: Well, the Sahara Desert, like a long ass time ago,
Speaker 2: used to be like a rainforest, oh for sure, for sure,
Speaker 2: and then it turned into sand somehow.
Speaker 4: So I see what you're saying. That's what we go
Speaker 4: from the lush rainforest to the desert like that.
Speaker 2: Right, And one of the theories is it's the ant
Speaker 2: people that were digging and they just threw all the
Speaker 2: sand up on top that ant people. Yeah, dude, wait
Speaker 2: wait wait wait.
Speaker 4: Wait wait the fuck is the ant people? You never
Speaker 4: heard of that talking about right now?
Speaker 2: You never heard of the people.
Speaker 4: I've heard of the mole people. There's ant people.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, the ant people are the motherfuckers of all
Speaker 2: Like cryptis what?
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, we must do an episode on the ant peple.
Speaker 4: I have never heard of this.
Speaker 2: Let me do a little research, Samuel, go right ahead
Speaker 2: with your hand raiser.
Speaker 5: You brought up the crispin while conspiracy other there's actually well,
Speaker 5: there's not a lot.
Speaker 6: Of evidence, per se.
Speaker 5: It would not be the first time that Vince McMahon
Speaker 5: actually covered up a murder. We can look at Jimmy
Speaker 5: Snooker Flyer. Uh, he killed his girlfriend and everything pushed
Speaker 5: off a balcony. But I'm of the assumption that Kevin
Speaker 5: Sullivan had something to do with it because he was
Speaker 5: a devout Satanist. He uh before he before Nancy and
Speaker 5: Chris got together, he uh, Nancy was married to Kevin,
Speaker 5: and he's he really booked the storyline of them getting
Speaker 5: together and everything. He booked his own divorce and he uh,
Speaker 5: according to Chavo, Uh, he was talking on the phone
Speaker 5: with Chris like before it happened. He said he heard
Speaker 5: scuffling and then the phone went dead. And uh, David Benoir,
Speaker 5: Chris's son, he swears up and now that he doesn't
Speaker 5: believe his dad actually could actually did it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna roll with you. I never believed that story either.
Speaker 2: Now I know steroids can turn people into batshit crazy motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: And Chris bin Wall, no doubt, was on literally all
Speaker 2: the steroids. And he, I mean, his his special move
Speaker 2: every night. Well there was the crippler cross face, but
Speaker 2: it was also the flying headbutt. And so every night
Speaker 2: he's doing a flying Headbut you know how many concautions
Speaker 2: you're gonna get throughout the years of doing that literally
Speaker 2: every day? I think you know, most wrestlers, they're on
Speaker 2: the road for like two hundred and eighty days a year. Bro,
Speaker 2: It's like a crazy amount of days.
Speaker 6: It's five days a week.
Speaker 5: My uncle Adam and he wanted he went to Esson School,
Speaker 5: and which kind of I've always wanted to go to
Speaker 5: Essen school.
Speaker 6: But another weird christin law.
Speaker 5: The day it happened, June forty fourth, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 5: was my eighth birthday.
Speaker 6: I knew something.
Speaker 5: I was having a birthday party, a swimming pool party,
Speaker 5: but I knew something was up when it went from
Speaker 5: bite and sunny to it was raining and storming, and
Speaker 5: the store that I was one of my favorite stores,
Speaker 5: the entire gas station part of it collapsed. And then
Speaker 5: that night I knew something was up. And that night
Speaker 5: we found out Chris died and I was like, oh.
Speaker 5: And next time I had a feeling of that was
Speaker 5: two years later, when I was in third grade. I
Speaker 5: was I was completely disassociated with my teacher and everything,
Speaker 5: and I felt the moment my popped, my grandfather passed away.
Speaker 6: So it death kind of is weird like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, whenever you have that that weird connection do
Speaker 2: it's just something to it. But uh, rowdy roddy, And
Speaker 2: I don't know, is that rapper I or is it
Speaker 2: rape or is it raper?
Speaker 4: I'm so not a raper.
Speaker 10: Earlier.
Speaker 4: I'm going to get to you in a second. Two.
Speaker 14: They have people in regards to like the Hopie and
Speaker 14: their creation myths. So the world has been destroyed four times,
Speaker 14: where in three times we're in what they call the
Speaker 14: Fourth Son right now, which is supposedly going to be
Speaker 14: destroyed by fire. But in between all of those bottlenecks
Speaker 14: of humanity, the ant people came from underground to guide
Speaker 14: the Hope to a safe spot and help them survive
Speaker 14: through those cataclysms, and once it was safe, took them
Speaker 14: back to the freaking surface and helped them, you know,
Speaker 14: rekindle their fricking life on Earth.
Speaker 2: Fucking ant people. I mean, it's it sounds crazy, but
Speaker 2: also you know, if we were to go to another planet,
Speaker 2: they would they would probably call us monkey people, right,
Speaker 2: like we're the primates. And so I mean if we
Speaker 2: went to a planet with mantis beings or like sentient
Speaker 2: like actual talking sentient octopuses or octopi, they would be like,
Speaker 2: what is this primate doing here? Like how how did
Speaker 2: they evolve the monkeys? You know, not to say that
Speaker 2: we are evolved from monkeys. It's just no, I get it,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I But I mean, so the ant people from the
Speaker 3: Hopi tribe, were they like the size of a man,
Speaker 3: was it?
Speaker 2: Like, let me read it here for you actually found
Speaker 2: a little article on it, and we'll do an episode
Speaker 2: on it, will dive deeper, but this is just one
Speaker 2: page of it. It says the Ant people of the Hope.
Speaker 2: This is by one of my favorite websites, Ancientorgins dot net,
Speaker 2: and it says the Hope Indians have lived on the
Speaker 2: high desert of northern Arizona for thousands of years. This
Speaker 2: barren but beautiful landscape was the place where Hope gods
Speaker 2: directed them to build a number of villages made up
Speaker 2: of pueblos what we today would call stone apartment complexes.
Speaker 2: Here the Hope managed to flourish by simply growing corn
Speaker 2: beans and squashed with very little rainfall and almost almost
Speaker 2: no irrigation. One of the most intriguing Hope legends involves
Speaker 2: the Ant people who were crucial to the survival of
Speaker 2: the Hope not just once, but twice. The so called
Speaker 2: First World was apparently destroyed by fire, possibly some sort
Speaker 2: of volcano, volcanism, asteroid strike, or coronal mass ejection from
Speaker 2: the Sun. The Second world was destroyed by ice, ice age, glaciers,
Speaker 2: or a pole shift. During these two global cataclysms, the
Speaker 2: virtuous members of the Hope tribe tribe were guided by
Speaker 2: an odd shaped cloud during the day and a moving
Speaker 2: star at night that led them to the sky god
Speaker 2: named so tuk so tuk Nang something like that, who
Speaker 2: finally took them to the Ant people in Hope and
Speaker 2: New Sinom. The Ant people then escorted the Hope into
Speaker 2: subterranean subterranean caves, where they found refuge and sustenance. In
Speaker 2: this legend, the Ant people are portrayed as generous and industrious,
Speaker 2: giving the Hope food when supplies ran short and teaching
Speaker 2: them that teaching them the merits of food shortage. In fact,
Speaker 2: another legend says that the reason why the ants have
Speaker 2: such thin waste today is because they once deprived themselves
Speaker 2: of provisions in order to help in order to feed
Speaker 2: the Hopies. I never really looked at an ant and thought, damn,
Speaker 2: what a skinny waste. You know, that's a weird way
Speaker 2: of looking at it.
Speaker 3: Never one time, But like, okay, so they had a
Speaker 3: myth as to the reason why the ant had a
Speaker 3: smaller mid section than the head or the ass.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, that's just one thing to say about it.
Speaker 2: But it says the constellation O'Ryan also has a thin
Speaker 2: waist it says. When Oriyan dominates the winter skies, the
Speaker 2: ants are deep in their small underground hills. These structures
Speaker 2: are similar in formed to the Hope kivas, which are
Speaker 2: subterranean communal prayer cha chambers. Coincidentally, the skit the Sanskrit
Speaker 2: word key like ki means ant hill and va va
Speaker 2: means dwelling. Each February inside their kivas, the Hope he
Speaker 2: performed the bean sprouting ceremony or bean dance called Powamu.
Speaker 2: During this time, the fires are continuously kept ablaze, turning
Speaker 2: these struck into superb hothouses. The ritual commemorates a time
Speaker 2: when the Anu Sinom taught the Hope how to sprout
Speaker 2: beans inside caverns in order to survive. It is interesting
Speaker 2: to note that the Babylonian sky god was also named Anu,
Speaker 2: kind of Anunaki looking thing. The Hopey word for ant
Speaker 2: is also Anu, and the Hopey root word naki means friends.
Speaker 2: How about that you learn something new every day, it
Speaker 2: says so interesting. Thus, the Hope Anu Naki or end
Speaker 2: quotes ant friends may have been the same as the
Speaker 2: Sumerian Anunaki, the beings who once came to earth from
Speaker 2: the heavens, holy shit, that's wild.
Speaker 3: But I feel like they would have known what an
Speaker 3: ant looked like, unless maybe we are just deriving pictures
Speaker 3: of what we think the Ananaki look like based off
Speaker 3: of what's in the text and all of that. Maybe
Speaker 3: they did look more like ants and bro who knows.
Speaker 3: But as I'm reading, yes, I'm assuming that like the
Speaker 3: Hopie would just what like sit there and let the
Speaker 3: ants eat them alive, because like to swat them or
Speaker 3: kill them would.
Speaker 4: Be hurting the ant people. Could I pour diesel on
Speaker 4: mine in the yard?
Speaker 2: No, they're huge, like like fucking people sized ants.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: No, But I'm saying like if they saw ants as
Speaker 3: that special of beings, so what did they like worship
Speaker 3: their ant hills and shit? Like they like didn't do
Speaker 3: anything to keep the ants away from their homes and shit,
Speaker 3: they saw it as like a thing from their gods.
Speaker 3: Because I pour diesel in light mine on fire.
Speaker 2: I mean, even the Buddhists they don't kill insects, like
Speaker 2: if there's an ant hill, like, they're not like drowning
Speaker 2: them or anything.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: True, the Hindus are the same way. They believe all
Speaker 4: life is pressures.
Speaker 3: I told you about my Hindoo neighbor that had like
Speaker 3: aphids growing or like on his tomatoes. He would like
Speaker 3: go out every afternoon and brush them off of the
Speaker 3: leaves for his tomato and put them in a different
Speaker 3: section of the yard.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, I'm like, bro, they make a dust. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you know about it.
Speaker 3: But he's like, oh, absolutely not. That would kill and
Speaker 3: that's against my religion.
Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, you know, I've actually been trying my
Speaker 2: best not to kill insects either anymore. Like there was
Speaker 2: a roach in the apartment the other day and it
Speaker 2: was like walking around. It wasn't like creepy or whatever.
Speaker 2: I just picked up, you know, a little piece of
Speaker 2: toilet paper and like just picked it up and let
Speaker 2: it outside.
Speaker 3: I have done that before, but gonna be honest, that's
Speaker 3: I have an electric fly swatter that like fries them
Speaker 3: whenever it smacks them, and it's allowed pop and it's
Speaker 3: fun and it actually has a little counter on it
Speaker 3: for how many you've gotten. So I don't get to
Speaker 3: use it often anymore because I've I have decimated the issue,
Speaker 3: but I will say that on occasion I get to
Speaker 3: use it and it's fun and then my kids were
Speaker 3: geniuses and stuck tent poles into it and pressed the
Speaker 3: button and basically made a low grade taser, and they
Speaker 3: hailed hands and arcd it across three of them. I
Speaker 3: swear to God they are my fucking children, one thousand percent.
Speaker 4: There's no denying this.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, spirit animal.
Speaker 6: Okay, sorry, I know this is probably fucked up with me.
Speaker 5: But if you take the electrical uh bugs, what if
Speaker 5: you take that and you and say your buddy or whatever,
Speaker 5: y'all use y'all instead of y'all play tag? Well, instead
Speaker 5: of tagging with your hand, you can use that as
Speaker 5: bapsmack the other one. Oh we've done that, or if
Speaker 5: you're adventurous, you.
Speaker 6: Could take it into the bedroom.
Speaker 3: But I mean it look electrolysis is used in certain
Speaker 3: kink communities and things.
Speaker 4: You know, different strokes, different folks. But I will say
Speaker 4: as far as playing tag.
Speaker 3: At night with the fly swatter as like the thing,
Speaker 3: Oh yes, me and my buddies in high school absolutely
Speaker 3: did this.
Speaker 6: Did you ever play bby? Like did you ever have
Speaker 6: a Bby war?
Speaker 5: But instead of aerosoft bullets are using that copperhead bbs.
Speaker 4: No, we used penny rockets.
Speaker 3: We would take our old red rider BB guns and
Speaker 3: stick the stick of a penny rocket.
Speaker 4: You know what that is. Some people do, some people don't.
Speaker 3: It's like the smallest bottle rocket kind of but like
Speaker 3: bottle rockets go up in the sky and do fancy shit.
Speaker 4: This is literally without any noise, just pop, that's all
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 3: It's like a water dynamite that has a little rocket
Speaker 3: on the back of it. I think it's like ten
Speaker 3: dollars for a gross of them, so one hundred and
Speaker 3: forty four of them for ten bucks. Me and my
Speaker 3: little brother would absolutely take that shove to stick down
Speaker 3: the baby gun and light them and straight up old
Speaker 3: school like aqua bust this shit at each other. We
Speaker 3: wore goggles, we were safe. But like that's also why
Speaker 3: those are legal in the state of Louisiana.
Speaker 5: Did you ever make a tato gun? I don't know
Speaker 5: if anyone else you know what the tatar gun is.
Speaker 3: We used a barbecue pit lighter as our ignition source.
Speaker 3: It's straight button. It works one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 5: We did that too, But you know what I used
Speaker 5: for the base of it. I had a old I
Speaker 5: had for that Christmas I got two of them. I
Speaker 5: got an old school NCS thirty six waiter enough gun.
Speaker 5: I took it, bokes, I took that and I use
Speaker 5: that at the.
Speaker 6: Pump, plumb it and everything. I use that as a
Speaker 6: handle for my tatar gun. I was like thirteen.
Speaker 5: Uh well, I ended up selling it to a couple
Speaker 5: of the other kids.
Speaker 6: And yeah, those kids were bad kids.
Speaker 5: Long sol short. They put a through the liquor store
Speaker 5: window and everything. And I get socially told by my grandmother,
Speaker 5: if you make another tater gun, I'm ana beat you
Speaker 5: as at the back of your head.
Speaker 4: So yeah like that, but yeah, fun times.
Speaker 2: Look, I I as far as like all of this,
Speaker 2: uh you know, killing bugs and whatnot, Like I get it.
Speaker 2: It can definitely be fun. My thing is is that
Speaker 2: I feel like roaches have been around a lot longer
Speaker 2: than us, and they'll probably around they'll probably be around
Speaker 2: a lot longer after us, and if they have any
Speaker 2: say so, like with nature and the cosmic gods and
Speaker 2: all that shit, Like, clearly the gods have shown like
Speaker 2: a little bit of love and a little bit of
Speaker 2: trust to keep them around as long as they've been around. Bro,
Speaker 2: did you know that a fucking.
Speaker 3: A lot of diseases too, So like if you see
Speaker 3: one in your home, that might lead to an infestation,
Speaker 3: that might lead to your whole family getting sick.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I agree, yeah, like get them out of
Speaker 2: your house. But the oldest known cockroach fossil has been
Speaker 2: it's around one hundred and twenty five to one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty million years old.
Speaker 4: Are we believing that fossils are real?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 4: I believe that.
Speaker 2: I mean I heard that fossils might be a little faking. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I also don't understand how you would even compare something
Speaker 2: like how would you know that something is one hundred
Speaker 2: million years old? What are you comparing it to that
Speaker 2: you know for a fact, is one hundred million years old?
Speaker 3: You know, depending it could be the rock that it
Speaker 3: was found inside or the amber that it's encased in.
Speaker 4: It really does vary.
Speaker 3: And there's there is It's not a perfect science, you know,
Speaker 3: there is some guesswork involved. Maybe that one hundred million
Speaker 3: years is more like ten thousand, Like I don't fucking know,
Speaker 3: who knows, But that's.
Speaker 2: Pretty that's like a long way off though. It's a
Speaker 2: little ways off for sure, Trey, what it do, dude,
Speaker 2: He's I feel like we are definitely jumping all over
Speaker 2: the place. But that's what makes these lives so damn good, dude,
Speaker 2: is that? Oh yeah, Trey had to dip out zombie
Speaker 2: go right ahead in the meantime.
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, did y'all see that. I'm just want to
Speaker 10: what everybody thinks about Pope Francis opening up the five
Speaker 10: Sacred Portals on Christmas Eve for a ritual it's never
Speaker 10: been done before.
Speaker 4: Very sorry, you're gonna have to come back on that one.
Speaker 4: This is the first I'm hearing of it.
Speaker 15: I dropped it in the chat. A picture of it
Speaker 15: right there.
Speaker 10: But there is like multiple things that says Pope Francis
Speaker 10: to open five Sacred portals on Christmas Eve for a
Speaker 10: ritual that's never been done before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the article. Well, this is a Vice
Speaker 2: article that I just found.
Speaker 4: I'm not knocking it.
Speaker 3: Depending on the topic, Vice will do their fucking work.
Speaker 3: If it's to ship on the Catholic Church. Vice is
Speaker 3: actually pretty Johnny on the spot.
Speaker 2: Look at that mith Raik Pope hat.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I just actually learned about that hat.
Speaker 3: I did in fact, just a lot learn all about
Speaker 3: the stole and the whole thing and this hat and
Speaker 3: the why it was shaped this way.
Speaker 4: There's there's a weird hat history channel on YouTube.
Speaker 2: It's Mithraism. It's like the fish hat. But anyway, we've
Speaker 2: covered that before. It says, is the Pope actually opening
Speaker 2: five portals to other worlds on Christmas Eve? To other worlds?
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: It says. Ahead of the Christmas holidays, some users, or
Speaker 2: some TikTok users have worked themselves into a mini frenzy
Speaker 2: about the ritualistic celebrations taking place at the Vatican. One
Speaker 2: TikToker one TikToker gained plenty of views and comments claiming
Speaker 2: that Pope Francis is planning to celebrate Christmas Eve by
Speaker 2: opening five spiritual portals that have never been opened before
Speaker 2: and live streaming the tomb of Lucifer that is underneath
Speaker 2: the Vatican. Understandably, this caused some concern and confusion. Luckily
Speaker 2: for us, Snopes went through a lengthy breakdown about why
Speaker 2: that's just not happening. So well, I mean, Snope said it,
Speaker 2: so it must be true, right, But it says, firstly,
Speaker 2: the spiritual portals are actually just doors. The tradition of
Speaker 2: the pope opening five holy doors is in accordance with
Speaker 2: the Roman Catholic tradition known as a jubilee, which takes
Speaker 2: place every twenty five years. One door will be opened
Speaker 2: on December twenty fourth, with subsequent doors opened on the
Speaker 2: twenty sixth, twenty ninth, January first, and January fifth. The
Speaker 2: details about the portals having never been opened before seems
Speaker 2: to stem from a New York Post article titled Pope
Speaker 2: Francis to open five sacred portals on Christmas Eve for
Speaker 2: a ritual that's never been done before. Though not quite false,
Speaker 2: this headline could be categorized as carefully worded clickbait. The
Speaker 2: part about five about opening five sacred portals is not
Speaker 2: new to Catholicism. It is the never been done before
Speaker 2: part refers to the fact that one of the holy
Speaker 2: doors is located in the Roman prism of Rebibia.
Speaker 4: Prism as like a jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah what did I say?
Speaker 4: You said prism?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm looking at it from another article too,
Speaker 3: And yeah, the jubilee happens in that five doors thing.
Speaker 4: It's like there's it happens every twenty five years. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: I was even raised Catholic, and I had heard of this,
Speaker 3: but I had never actually looked into it. I thought
Speaker 3: it was kind of a I like, the word jubilee
Speaker 3: is in the Bible, if I'm not mistaken, so it's.
Speaker 4: Like a word you hear. But that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: So I would like to get this guy on. You
Speaker 2: ever heard him? You ever heard him talk before?
Speaker 4: I feel like I have, But let's let's go in.
Speaker 2: He's like, he's like a biblical scholar, and he's like
Speaker 2: super fucking well read on everything the Bible and all
Speaker 2: the different translations and fucking super genius on it. But
Speaker 2: actually we can kind of hear, well, he's this is
Speaker 2: a video saying that no, Lucifer doesn't have a tomb
Speaker 2: in the Vatican. I mean, we can watch it. It's
Speaker 2: only three minutes. We're gonna have to listen to a
Speaker 2: couple of seconds of an ad. There we go. It says, wait,
Speaker 2: so hence when does Lucifer have a tomb in the Vatican?
Speaker 2: What timeline is this stitch?
Speaker 11: It is no tomb of Lucifer anywhere in at near
Speaker 11: or under the Vatican, at least not like this you
Speaker 11: can understand Lucifer to refer to Satan, which it didn't
Speaker 11: until the fifth century CE at the earliest. This is
Speaker 11: just an idiotic conspiracy theory that seems to me to
Speaker 11: have gotten its start from an uncritical and a rather
Speaker 11: conspiratorial perusal of this map of the Vatican Necropolis from
Speaker 11: Saint Peter's Basilica dot info and the upper left you'll
Speaker 11: see a tomb labeled you, and the list at the
Speaker 11: bottom places the name Lucifer next to the U, and
Speaker 11: Lucifer is just spelled incorrectly, But it doesn't give a
Speaker 11: lot of information on why that name for this tomb
Speaker 11: if you click on that link, but it does lead
Speaker 11: you to this nineteen eighty six guide to the Vatican Necropolis,
Speaker 11: where we see the name Lucifer occurring a grand total
Speaker 11: of one time. Here in the index. In the very
Speaker 11: middle mausoleum you the Lucifer tomb. You'll notice the other
Speaker 11: tombs are the tomb of personal name or the tomb
Speaker 11: of family name, but this is not the tomb of Lucifer.
Speaker 11: It's just the Lucifer tombs. So this is probably a title,
Speaker 11: perhaps associated with some graffiti that was found in the
Speaker 11: tomb or because it was connected in some way with
Speaker 11: one of the prominent Lucifers from the fourth century CE,
Speaker 11: like Lucifer of Callieri, who was a prominent defender of
Speaker 11: Athenasius and the Trinity. But I think it's probably more
Speaker 11: likely just a title because somehow the word Lucifer was
Speaker 11: associated with it. But something important to note here is
Speaker 11: that if you look at this map, it shows you
Speaker 11: the purple is associated with pre Constantinian structures, so this
Speaker 11: tomb is in purple. So this is a pre Constantinian tomb,
Speaker 11: and any writings or graffiti would probably also be pre Constantinian.
Speaker 11: And this is important because in the three hundred CE,
Speaker 11: Lucifer was not a reference to Satan. It was just
Speaker 11: a generic title, and there were prominent Christians who had
Speaker 11: this as their personal name. It wasn't until Jerome retrans
Speaker 11: the Bible into Latin, giving us the Vulgate around four
Speaker 11: hundred CE, that the seeds were planted for the identification
Speaker 11: of Satan as Lucifer. Because Jerome chose the title Lucifer
Speaker 11: to render the Hebrew haleel shining one in Isaiah fourteen twelve,
Speaker 11: which is just a sarcastic reference to the King of
Speaker 11: Babylon as a deity associated with the planet Venus. Jerome
Speaker 11: also used Lucifer elsewhere, including in tewod Peter one nineteen,
Speaker 11: where the reference to the morning star rising in your
Speaker 11: hearts is almost certainly a symbolic reference to Jesus and
Speaker 11: perhaps riffing on the reference in numbers to a star
Speaker 11: rising out of Jacob and so Lucifer, at least when
Speaker 11: Jerome translated the Vulgate was used to refer both to
Speaker 11: Jesus and to the King of Babylon, who is being
Speaker 11: sarcastically cast as a deity. It's not until the fifth
Speaker 11: century CE, when Isaiah fourteen twelve began to be renegotiated
Speaker 11: as a reference to Satan, that the name Lucifer and
Speaker 11: then began to be understood as a reference to Satan.
Speaker 11: And Augustine is one of the main popularisers of this
Speaker 11: renegotiated identification of Lucifer, and the fact that Lucifer refers
Speaker 11: to Jesus and two Peter one nineteen was just ignored.
Speaker 11: So this tomb is not the tomb of Lucifer, and
Speaker 11: certainly not the tomb of Lucifer as Satan. It probably
Speaker 11: predates the renegotiation of the reference of the title Lucifer
Speaker 11: in the Hebrew Bible, so you can safely ignore this
Speaker 11: idiotic conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4: And do you I like that guy.
Speaker 3: I forget his name, but I've seen him on a
Speaker 3: couple of different podcasts, and he is a very similar
Speaker 3: to that guy wes Hoff who just like Skull dragged
Speaker 3: your boy Billy, and he is in the same type
Speaker 3: of realm of like he actually works with the texts
Speaker 3: on a daily basis. He has like a doctorate in
Speaker 3: these things.
Speaker 4: And he speaks Greek, he speaks the Hebrew, he speaks
Speaker 4: the Aramaic.
Speaker 2: Dan McLellan, there you go, Bible scholar, Dan McLellan, he's an.
Speaker 4: Og with it.
Speaker 3: But I also hear people shit on him because like
Speaker 3: every reference he just made is if we are to
Speaker 3: believe the historical accounts and the references from the third century, well,
Speaker 3: what is the source from the third century?
Speaker 4: Who wrote it? Is it a forgery? Like you see
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This is what I look into as far as academian
Speaker 3: scholarship goes. But I know there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: who throw out anything of accepted academia. So it's like,
Speaker 3: you know what, Gary, I'm getting at.
Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting though, is that this is
Speaker 2: correlating with what we learned earlier that Lucifer was more
Speaker 2: so a title or a name. It wasn't necessarily one
Speaker 2: being or one person or something. And the same thing
Speaker 2: goes along with the name Satan. It was actually a title.
Speaker 2: So whenever we read earlier for the six to six
Speaker 2: to six episode that Satan, it was actually referred to
Speaker 2: as a Satan, meaning an adversary, not even necessarily a
Speaker 2: being named Satan. It's just that if you had an
Speaker 2: adversary that you could call that being a Satan.
Speaker 4: So it's name, it's a placeholder.
Speaker 3: There's no Peter, Paul's Matthews or Luke's running around Israel.
Speaker 16: Y'all.
Speaker 4: I hate to burst you little bubbles. Okay. Isn't it
Speaker 4: interesting the Hebrew alphabet his name. What in Jesus, it's
Speaker 4: the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 2: So many people talk about you know, I saw Satan
Speaker 2: or I saw Lucifer within a nightmare, or Lucifer came
Speaker 2: to me, or Satan came to me. It's like, no, he.
Speaker 3: Didn't know what they're talking about though it's a placeholder
Speaker 3: and a title. But like in the colloquial tongue of today,
Speaker 3: we get with the right, but.
Speaker 2: That there is no specific being that is That is
Speaker 2: the point, like, you know, it's just what your mind
Speaker 2: understands Satan and Lucifer to be. So whenever, dude, you
Speaker 2: got people out there that literally believe that Satan and
Speaker 2: Lucifer are the same fucking being, And here they are.
Speaker 2: They're just titles. They're never they never even were a being.
Speaker 3: It's both of them have been names that have again
Speaker 3: in the English language, been kind of brandished to the
Speaker 3: evil fallen one you will. But there are certain people
Speaker 3: that believe that the Baphomet is the exact same being.
Speaker 3: And there's people that will say that Ball or Bail
Speaker 3: is the exact same being. Then there will be people
Speaker 3: that will argue saying that Bail is a completely different being.
Speaker 4: I personally think it's pretty much understood that it's not,
Speaker 4: but there are people that still argue that point.
Speaker 2: But it's ignorance though, you see what I'm saying though,
Speaker 2: Like yes, and this is why you know, whenever, I
Speaker 2: and no no hate for people who are religious, and
Speaker 2: they you know, they have Jesus in their heart or whatever.
Speaker 4: Ship of that religion, bro. But like what proves it?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 2: How many people will literally say, oh, I know this,
Speaker 2: I know, Lucifer, you're Satan or back away from me Satan,
Speaker 2: and like you know you're you're a devil worshiper and
Speaker 2: and you're going to Hell and you know all this
Speaker 2: kind of shit. And I'm just like, Bro, you don't
Speaker 2: even know what the fuck you're talking about. Like you
Speaker 2: never even read the Bible, you just know a couple
Speaker 2: of the characters that are in it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, if any person, like living human
Speaker 3: being is out there saying you're going to hal that's
Speaker 3: not That's not a practicing Christian. Gonna be straight up
Speaker 3: with you. Because we're humans. We have no judgment to
Speaker 3: give to any other human period ever, period, ever, period.
Speaker 3: So if some quote unquote Christians out there saying that, uh,
Speaker 3: that would be poisoned holy water, sir, and that would
Speaker 3: be uh infecting everybody around it, whether they say it's
Speaker 3: holy or not, that's actually poisoned.
Speaker 4: And the book does talk about this as well.
Speaker 2: Honey badger, do you give a ship?
Speaker 7: I don't give a fizz up.
Speaker 8: You know what would say, hell have a limited or
Speaker 8: you can eat gonn be bears because you know, retarded kids,
Speaker 8: we love gum.
Speaker 4: Bears, facts and crowns.
Speaker 7: That was true. Yeah, it tastes like blue.
Speaker 4: Man, I tell you what.
Speaker 2: The tastes like blue.
Speaker 3: No, but uh so the hope opening this door though
Speaker 3: during this jubilee is also the timing of its wild
Speaker 3: Syria has fallen to the Christian faith. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of holy sites in Syria, in and around anyway, that
Speaker 3: area of the world's very, very important for a lot
Speaker 3: of reasons. I saw something on the News Nation article
Speaker 3: that I was reading. It was pretty much a line
Speaker 3: for line what you were reading. By the way, on
Speaker 3: the Vice article, I didn't find anything that really cantraared anything.
Speaker 4: Nothing about the tomb of Satan.
Speaker 3: They did say there was controversy because one of them
Speaker 3: was in a prison, but like that's a part of it.
Speaker 3: And if you look at it, a giant chunk of
Speaker 3: the New Testament was written from a prison cell. Paul
Speaker 3: was in prison a lot for him speaking about Jesus
Speaker 3: living in things.
Speaker 4: It was a whole thing.
Speaker 2: So between four walls.
Speaker 4: A lot like a lot.
Speaker 3: There was a time or two where earthquakes happened where
Speaker 3: he could have escaped and he didn't, and there's stuff,
Speaker 3: there's stuff there' stuff. But anyway, so that area being
Speaker 3: such a area for controversy right now. I saw a
Speaker 3: little subadendum saying that there may be something special that
Speaker 3: the Pope is doing with this ritual in speciality for Syria.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if there might be more like
Speaker 3: actual mechanics to that ritual, like something specific that only
Speaker 3: the Pope knows because he's like the only one that's
Speaker 3: authorized to do this type of rich I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I'm assuming there are things like that within the uh,
Speaker 3: within the the papal decrees and things you know, within
Speaker 3: their within their knowledge.
Speaker 2: I don't buy any of that pope bullshit, Like the
Speaker 2: the idea that there is a human that is closer
Speaker 2: to God than every other human? Like, is that that
Speaker 2: seems incredibly wrong? Like just on like a like a
Speaker 2: conscious level. Does that not seem like super not right?
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, sir, Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4: Do you believe that there are some people that are
Speaker 4: like more attuned to lifting heavy weight than others?
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually people who go to the gym regularly.
Speaker 3: Ah, my point is being made, all right, So think
Speaker 3: of spirituality, religion, whatever as like a muscle, and if
Speaker 3: you go to the gym once a month, you'll.
Speaker 4: Get that much out of it. If you live at
Speaker 4: the gym, you'll get that much out of it.
Speaker 3: So whenever, like you go to a religious leader, it
Speaker 3: would be the same as going to like a lifting
Speaker 3: coach at a gym. It's not that this person is
Speaker 3: better than you. They've been doing it longer and they
Speaker 3: know more about it than you do. They know everything, No,
Speaker 3: no one can know everything, and everybody is different day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but like this is where you would go to get
Speaker 3: that information to grow yourself in whatever way you're trying.
Speaker 4: To you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that is why I say to look towards not
Speaker 3: religious men or religious people, or even all pastors and priests.
Speaker 3: But yes, if you were trying to gain deeper knowledge
Speaker 3: from it, you would go to a pastor, a priest or.
Speaker 3: If you're going into a deeper knowledge of Islam or
Speaker 3: Hinduism or what, you would go to their religious leaders
Speaker 3: to get more information.
Speaker 4: This makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: I mean, stay away from the priests, don't spend too
Speaker 2: much time with them, you know, just the same as
Speaker 2: you would you don't want to spend too much time
Speaker 2: with your boy Scout leader either. It's just common sense
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 4: I wanna be honest with you, dude.
Speaker 3: All jokes aside, Like if you do ever sit and
Speaker 3: have like a twenty minute conversation with a priest, like,
Speaker 3: vast majority of them, solid guys, vast majority of them
Speaker 3: have heard whatever you're about to say to them a
Speaker 3: time or two.
Speaker 4: And most of them are just cool dudes that they
Speaker 4: want to give you some kind words, you know, and
Speaker 4: just give you a little bit of peace. But there's
Speaker 4: a lot of them that are shitty, not right.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, think of all of the spiritual
Speaker 2: leaders around the world. I'm not even talking about just
Speaker 2: Christian I'm talking about around the world, all religious, all
Speaker 2: spiritual forms, and to say that there is one above
Speaker 2: all of them that is the closest to God, that's
Speaker 2: my problem that I have.
Speaker 4: Is there not a world's Strongest Man?
Speaker 2: Okay, but that award is granted by a human.
Speaker 4: So the pope is the pope elect hote on him? Yeah,
Speaker 4: they elect him. That's what the College of cardinals does
Speaker 4: when the pope dies.
Speaker 2: Right, But it's it's not elected by the people, it's
Speaker 2: by the College of Cardinals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same as like, uh, And honestly, I
Speaker 3: don't mind that. I don't mind them selecting one from
Speaker 3: amongst themselves to lead their organization.
Speaker 4: That makes sense to me.
Speaker 3: It's like a board of directors electing a new CEO,
Speaker 3: if you will. It would make sense to me that
Speaker 3: they would pick one of their owns that know the
Speaker 3: inner workings of the organization.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I just I mean, we go
Speaker 2: into all the Vatican and the popes and the Red Pope,
Speaker 2: the Black Pope, the Great Pope, and all this other bullshit,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I'm.
Speaker 4: Not a fan of the pope.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to straw man you here to say like
Speaker 3: this is their reason behind it, is their thinking behind
Speaker 3: it right now for me personally, the good book that
Speaker 3: they preach says not to call anyone else father, right.
Speaker 3: It also says clearly that you no longer need an
Speaker 3: intermediary to get to God. That was the whole point
Speaker 3: of Jesus, that whole thing that I don't I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm pro Catholic on this one here,
Speaker 3: but that is at least their thought process to it.
Speaker 4: But then you can look at the Hebrews.
Speaker 3: They had their Levite priests that were the only ones
Speaker 3: to go into the Holy of Holies, and it wasn't
Speaker 3: one dude, it was this group of dudes, and it
Speaker 3: was like you had to have so many on standby
Speaker 3: in case the first, second, or third dude died.
Speaker 4: It was a whole thing.
Speaker 3: So, like, I understand reasons for it, but in today's
Speaker 3: modern age, it's I believe antiquated. That's just me personally.
Speaker 3: I'm not meaning to piss off anybody. Nothing beloved and respect.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Samuel, do you have any thoughts on the
Speaker 2: pope or any of the things that were conversating about.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, to go back to, I'm happy that Jacob
Speaker 5: was going to make the points that I was gonna
Speaker 5: bring up, how that we're not supposed to we don't
Speaker 5: need an in a military, or how we're not supposed
Speaker 5: to call another man father in the holy sense. That
Speaker 5: that's part of the reason I have a problem like
Speaker 5: with the Catholics. But the other part is I actually
Speaker 5: tried I kind of attempted to break av out of myself.
Speaker 5: I was this close to stepping foot into a Catholic
Speaker 5: church and I called up. I was gonna try to
Speaker 5: talk to a priest I was in about.
Speaker 6: My little demon problem I have.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I called them and they just they said
Speaker 5: made him at this time, and I showed up. He
Speaker 5: never showed up. So that kind of solidified it for me.
Speaker 5: But my thing is with the that the Catholics, why
Speaker 5: why do they why do they pray to marry? But
Speaker 5: also why is it that they they know that Jesus
Speaker 5: is a way and that we're not supposed to go up,
Speaker 5: We're not supposed to worship false idols or anything like that.
Speaker 5: But I growing up, I've always heard that they would
Speaker 5: kiss the pope's wing.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry, but that's worship and I feel like that it
Speaker 5: has that is a man trying to play God and
Speaker 5: that should not happen.
Speaker 2: So there's very helot.
Speaker 3: So all right, why do the Catholics? All right, first off,
Speaker 3: why do they kiss the ring of the pope? That
Speaker 3: is a more of an old Italian custom, very very
Speaker 3: indicative to why the mafia does the same gesture. It's
Speaker 3: it's more of a h The dudes in charge is
Speaker 3: the down of dons, if you will.
Speaker 4: The pope would be the.
Speaker 3: Boss of bosses, the priests of priests in that regard.
Speaker 3: So that's more of a Roman and Italian thing more
Speaker 3: than it is a Catholic thing.
Speaker 4: But it has been, it's become a Catholic thing. And
Speaker 4: but I'm with you one hundred percent. You had mentioned
Speaker 4: about why do the Catholics pray to marry? Okay, So
Speaker 4: Mary is the new arc of the Covenant.
Speaker 3: When the Ark of the Covenant came through the Holy City,
Speaker 3: King David danced because he was so overjoyed by this.
Speaker 3: He danced in a loincloth around the ark of the
Speaker 3: Covenant as it came into his city, because the actual
Speaker 3: presence of God was in his city.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: So the way that the Catholics see this, because that
Speaker 3: was the ark of the old Covenant from the Old Testament,
Speaker 3: the arc of the New Covenant would be Mary because her.
Speaker 4: Womb is what howled the new Covenant, the new Promise.
Speaker 4: That would be Jesus.
Speaker 3: Right, So Mary's physical body herself is the arc of
Speaker 3: the New Covenant. And a subadendum to that is very
Speaker 3: similar to the Christmas Carol, where it says, Mary, did
Speaker 3: you know when you kiss your little baby, you kiss
Speaker 3: the face of God. So the Catholics also take into
Speaker 3: account the fact that Jesus was half human, half God.
Speaker 4: Half not just a god, half the fucking God.
Speaker 3: So they take this to mean that Mary is the
Speaker 3: actual mother.
Speaker 4: Of God on Earth and arc of the New Covenant.
Speaker 3: Therefore this puts her into some sort of a deified realm,
Speaker 3: and so through that it and it also there's a
Speaker 3: reason why they do the same thing with saints. They
Speaker 3: pray to saints who were human beings that lived on
Speaker 3: earth and then died, maybe in very heroic ways.
Speaker 4: Maybe you would read some of these stories and be like, absolutely,
Speaker 4: I see why this guy would be a saint, Like
Speaker 4: if he was alive today, we would give him some
Speaker 4: crazy other title, like for sure. But they pray to them,
Speaker 4: and like I have legit seen people be like John
Speaker 4: the Baptist bless me my hour of meed and it's like,
Speaker 4: I'm fucking sorry you said what to who? And it's
Speaker 4: but this is they believe this because it is very dogmatic.
Speaker 3: It's very ritualistic of them. And I've learned this about Catholics.
Speaker 3: It's very much how they were raised, and it's just
Speaker 3: the way it is. Don't step out of the box,
Speaker 3: and it's just this is how it is. It's I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that to throw shade, but that is why
Speaker 3: they worship Mary and pray to Mary and see her
Speaker 3: as some sort of a deified being that can answer
Speaker 3: those prayers or give them comfort in times of need,
Speaker 3: because they see her as the Mother of God in
Speaker 3: a sense.
Speaker 5: So that leads to another question, not to be uh,
Speaker 5: not to commit hersey myself, but that's not my intention.
Speaker 6: Does that mean that Jesus is technically a demi god
Speaker 6: if we attribute to like.
Speaker 5: The Christian and not the Christian, but to like the Norse,
Speaker 5: the Greek, the Roman, and yeah, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: No, all right, for that to have happened, there would
Speaker 3: have had to have been intercourse between God and Mary
Speaker 3: to make Jesus. Right, Like, that's why Zeus came down
Speaker 3: and actually literally fucked all these humans to make ninety
Speaker 3: five percent of Greek mythology, and Juberty did the same
Speaker 3: for Roman mythology. Right, that's but with this one, an
Speaker 3: angel spoke into he's here and he was conceived, so
Speaker 3: it's not the same actual act of not to mention.
Speaker 3: We acknowledge as Christians anyway, that Jesus is God, God,
Speaker 3: the Father, the Holy Spirit. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Speaker 3: These are three of the same entity that are separate
Speaker 3: but the same. It's very complicated and we get that,
Speaker 3: but we don't view Jesus as a lesser form of God.
Speaker 3: We see him as the Son of God, but also
Speaker 3: God personified in flesh.
Speaker 6: Coolio, thank you.
Speaker 2: Indeed, sir, the immaculate conception.
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, zombie. Your hand was raised and brought down
Speaker 3: a couple of different times. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: had anything you wanted to chime in on this one.
Speaker 10: He was reading of different articles about different stuff and
Speaker 10: then you guys moved on from the topic. So I
Speaker 10: was like, oh, well, I'll just drop my hand. I
Speaker 10: was just reading about like how the Catholic Church has
Speaker 10: a program that's invested in converting not already bridging the
Speaker 10: gap between Christians and them from prosecute from persecuted in
Speaker 10: the forgotten, and it was talking about like how the
Speaker 10: Christians were becoming it was like sixty percent worse the
Speaker 10: persecution of Christians in eighteen countries that it was investigated,
Speaker 10: and then it was just I was looking at like
Speaker 10: the new reassurgence of Christianity throughout the globe and how
Speaker 10: it's actually picked up instead, and how the Catholic Church
Speaker 10: is trying to catch up pretty much because they've fallen behind.
Speaker 15: And it was just talking.
Speaker 10: About like what actually was like what type of genocide
Speaker 10: has been happening globally to Christians for the last few years,
Speaker 10: and mainly that they're kidnapping the young girls and converting
Speaker 10: them and forcing them into underage marriages and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 10: and I was just so it was like you guys
Speaker 10: were bouncing all over so I didn't really like I
Speaker 10: was like, yeah, this doesn't really pertain to what they're
Speaker 10: talking about now.
Speaker 15: So that's why I was.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 3: It's very true the Christian faith, by the numbers, is
Speaker 3: growing substantially across the globe. However, there are the Catholic
Speaker 3: Church is struggling to keep peace, Like Christianity is growing,
Speaker 3: but the Catholic Church is steadily declining, and that's I
Speaker 3: think that's also kind of a sign of the times.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was just listening to uh was it
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk the other day?
Speaker 3: He was debating a communist and Uh the d was
Speaker 3: basically saying that like, Russia has no problem with U
Speaker 3: or China and Russia honestly, but has no problem with
Speaker 3: faith of any type. And he's like, have you ever
Speaker 3: talked to a priest who is in jail for preaching
Speaker 3: in one of the gulags in Russia? Because I've met
Speaker 3: a few and they would disagree with you on this.
Speaker 3: And it's like, not just Christianity, but all faiths are
Speaker 3: getting persecuted, but currently, especially in Africa, that's a very
Speaker 3: hotbed area for this. And in the Arabic countries, if
Speaker 3: you these young schools that are Christian ran will be
Speaker 3: set upon by Islamic forces who will take girls and
Speaker 3: force them into child marriages and usually there's genital mutilation
Speaker 3: that comes along with that. It's not a it's not
Speaker 3: a fun top conversation to have, but it's a very
Speaker 3: true thing that's happening right now.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I think that the Catholic Church will not be able
Speaker 3: to catch up, to be completely honest with you, with
Speaker 3: the way that the faith.
Speaker 4: Is growing and the way the world is changing.
Speaker 3: Like they they for a second looked like they might
Speaker 3: be able to maintain, but I could see them also
Speaker 3: in another one hundred years or two hundred years being
Speaker 3: completely gone.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, joby.
Speaker 15: Yeah, No, I was reading the same stuff.
Speaker 10: But speaking of genital mutilation, I don't know if I
Speaker 10: know that's like not on the topic of a lot
Speaker 10: of people's mind, but they actually it's been banned in
Speaker 10: a lot of the Arab countries for like six almost
Speaker 10: seven years now and only.
Speaker 4: Six or seven years. How how crazy the progress?
Speaker 10: You know, well, you know it's better than a lot
Speaker 10: of places, but there there's a huge reassurgence of that happening.
Speaker 10: They're like decided that they're gonna go against it, and
Speaker 10: like it's a it's a big battle. And it's really
Speaker 10: interesting because like the more that you talk about it,
Speaker 10: people get really uncomfortable and it's like, I don't quite
Speaker 10: understand why we're not talking about this.
Speaker 15: You're talking about.
Speaker 10: Like the father on uncles and brothers folding a twelve
Speaker 10: year old girl down and taking a knife to her
Speaker 10: and with no noceesion, no nothing, and then hoping for
Speaker 10: the best for the sake of the men, and it's like, right,
Speaker 10: this is a huge thing that's like now occurring, and
Speaker 10: it's supposedly being happening in places over in Europe as well,
Speaker 10: with the big you know, refugee push and stuff which
Speaker 10: you saw pull in lockdown their country, and like there's
Speaker 10: all sorts of stuff and Germany's like, all right, I guess.
Speaker 15: We really need to follow suit.
Speaker 10: And they are there going with the slogan to make
Speaker 10: Germany great again. And so there's a whole thing happening
Speaker 10: over there with the refugees and stuff because they're doing
Speaker 10: this to their their actual citizens as well, they're mutilating
Speaker 10: them with the same idea in mind.
Speaker 3: Yo, Merkele fucked her country and now the alleged far
Speaker 3: right extremist group that just took over Germany. Nah, they
Speaker 3: are cleaning up, or at least that's what they're talking.
Speaker 4: About doing anyway.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the female circumcision is now making a quote
Speaker 3: unquote comeback as if it ever had a presence in Europe.
Speaker 4: Like this is real life and this is disgusting. So
Speaker 4: I'm I'm glad that it's being talked about more and
Speaker 4: I'm glad that it's being made aware like by the way, y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this religion of Peace quote unquote does horrible disgusting
Speaker 3: stuff by their culture, and it's not all of them,
Speaker 3: but for the places that it is happening, we need
Speaker 3: to shine a light on it. We need to stop.
Speaker 6: This is horrible.
Speaker 3: I would put this in the same realm as like
Speaker 3: human trafficking. We need to stop all this shit, you mean,
Speaker 3: like if it's culture or not.
Speaker 2: So you're talking about like like female circumcision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they cut off their clip before they get married
Speaker 3: so they can never experience an orgasm.
Speaker 2: Like the whole clit or just like the hood of
Speaker 2: the clid.
Speaker 4: No, no, it's oh god, the.
Speaker 10: Thing they take like a butcher knife to them and
Speaker 10: they there's videos of it actually, but there's actually really
Speaker 10: good TED talks that discuss it because the women that
Speaker 10: came forward to push for this mute movement were generally
Speaker 10: mutated and like it's the whole thing, and they actually
Speaker 10: some of them actually got brutally murdered once they came
Speaker 10: forward and fought for the rights of the girls. But
Speaker 10: what it is is that like by your twelfth birthday,
Speaker 10: pretty much the males in your family will get together
Speaker 10: and they will hold you down and they just cut
Speaker 10: off everything and like in one swoop, no indecision, no nothing,
Speaker 10: and then they have to hopefully survive what they've done
Speaker 10: to them. But it's because they want them to not
Speaker 10: achieve any pleasure. That's if you even make it to
Speaker 10: twelve years old. You're talking like, you know, they like
Speaker 10: to marry them off at like nine years old, So
Speaker 10: you can't be married with being intact, period, do you do?
Speaker 3: They have to say that even Mohammed married a six
Speaker 3: year old but waited till she was nine, till she
Speaker 3: was old enough to actually lay with her and like
Speaker 3: that whole thing.
Speaker 4: So you're right, even nine year olds are.
Speaker 3: Getting brutally viciously mutilated by their family members before being
Speaker 3: sold off to their new husband to be one of
Speaker 3: his nine wives.
Speaker 2: Do they have priest to suck the blood from said circumcision?
Speaker 4: Gross? Putting your mouth on a woman's parts?
Speaker 2: Oh so putting your mouth on it?
Speaker 4: Are you Europe?
Speaker 2: Putting your mouth on a dick is a.
Speaker 4: Little bit better?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well that in that culture, that's fine in
Speaker 3: the name of a law, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: that's that's whatever.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't put
Speaker 2: it on the fucking Islamics. Bro, This shit is happening
Speaker 2: within Christianity too, or Judy is a mainly Actually no, no, no, what.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about is the Arabs are the ones
Speaker 3: that fuck men for pleasure in women just for children? No, no, no,
Speaker 3: what you're talking about sucking dick in the desert and shit, No,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about whenever they circumcised. The original way to
Speaker 3: circumcise was to cut off the foreskin and then suck
Speaker 3: the blood off the baby penis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't agree with that either, completely honest.
Speaker 4: I think that's disgusting.
Speaker 2: I would call that a fucking pedophile that needs a
Speaker 2: bullet in the head. Personally, that's what I think about it.
Speaker 2: And also I don't know. I'm not personally a fan
Speaker 2: of circumcision. I don't plan. Like I have a son,
Speaker 2: I didn't circumcisee him. If I have another son, I
Speaker 2: won't circumcisee him either. I think that that is for females, dude.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm just saying. You know, as
Speaker 2: far as I mean, I got a dick, I don't
Speaker 2: know what it's like to have a pussy. But like
Speaker 2: the idea of you know, just cutting skin off of
Speaker 2: your dick.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just it seems weird not to make this about men. Yes,
Speaker 2: I know that it's that would be way, way, way
Speaker 2: worse to get your clip cut off than your force
Speaker 2: get cut off. I'm not trying to compare it.
Speaker 3: So I hate that it's called female circumcision. We should
Speaker 3: call it the brutal vaginal mutilation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like circumcision is not the right word for that.
Speaker 3: That sounds like circumference, like a circle, like a round thing,
Speaker 3: like a dick's foreskin.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if they're cutting around for this.
Speaker 4: I've never watched the mechanics of it because it would
Speaker 4: probably enrage me and turn my stomach at the same time.
Speaker 3: So fine, But like, I don't know. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: agree female circumcision.
Speaker 4: That is the most politically nice way to say disfiguring
Speaker 4: and brutally tortuously murdering or not murdering, mutilating your daughters
Speaker 4: for sale, so to speak, because dowries get paid for.
Speaker 2: Sure, Zombie, you can speak on this. You are probably
Speaker 2: better qualified than me or Jacob.
Speaker 10: But well so in reference to like the difference between
Speaker 10: male circumcisions and female like the different. The main difference
Speaker 10: is is that this is being done in a brutality
Speaker 10: way to ensure that there is never going to be
Speaker 10: any sensation except for pain period for every woman and men,
Speaker 10: even with yours, with a dick that's circumcised, You're still
Speaker 10: going to be able to experience pleasure, still going to
Speaker 10: be able to have orgasms, still going to be able
Speaker 10: to do all of these things. Allegedly less pleasure though, well,
Speaker 10: I mean it is, it is technically less pleasure, but
Speaker 10: there is. I mean, that's it's more of an esthetic
Speaker 10: thing at this point globally than it is what it
Speaker 10: was originally intended for. So like I mean, it's just
Speaker 10: more inherently a cultural thing at this point. But yes,
Speaker 10: it technically has less pleasure quote unquote, but you're talking
Speaker 10: about cutting off an entire clit, and it's not like
Speaker 10: it's like, you know, oh, let's do this a really
Speaker 10: nice surgical way. No, you're literally taking any type of knife,
Speaker 10: sharpening it up and grabbing it. They literally just grab
Speaker 10: it with their fingers and they slice.
Speaker 15: It to the bone almost.
Speaker 10: And like this is there's no like hesitation, and like
Speaker 10: they do this to young children, and they do this
Speaker 10: all the way up and it's it's a big it's
Speaker 10: a big thing. And the women that continuously fight against
Speaker 10: this are being killed consistently because they're trying to stop
Speaker 10: this from happening.
Speaker 15: They finally pass.
Speaker 10: Some laws and they have held some men accountable for
Speaker 10: doing this, and there is women that have.
Speaker 15: Gotten like some.
Speaker 10: Justice quote unquote, I guess, but it's still such a
Speaker 10: heavily heavy issue. But now that it's moving into Europe,
Speaker 10: it's like, okay, this, you know, finally it's maybe gaining
Speaker 10: traction on, like we should be speaking about this. It
Speaker 10: is the same as child trafficking because it all ties
Speaker 10: into to you know, the religion itself, and like how
Speaker 10: they have no qualms about marrying a six year old
Speaker 10: and like it's it's disgusting the whole thing overall.
Speaker 3: But and those survivors, I wonder how many of them
Speaker 3: have acid thrown in their face because that seems to
Speaker 3: be a very uh cultural thing that happens in Europe
Speaker 3: to these women too.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, they they burn them, they scar them, They
Speaker 10: brutally mutate lots of body parts, like they've had, you know,
Speaker 10: a big thing down in Africa, they used to cut
Speaker 10: off the tits of the moms because that way they
Speaker 10: couldn't they couldn't breastfeed. Ever again, well, like there's a
Speaker 10: lot of different things that happen, but like you're also
Speaker 10: talking about people that are okay with cutting off arms
Speaker 10: of children to prove a point to get at the parents,
Speaker 10: Like they have no problem harming people to get their way.
Speaker 10: And it's just it's interesting that all the stuff that's
Speaker 10: happening right now with the refugees and stuff, and like,
Speaker 10: you know, people are really coming forward with Poland's idea
Speaker 10: of like, you know, no, this is where we're done.
Speaker 10: We're done playing this game because you're allowing people in
Speaker 10: there that are now taking over and killing your citizens
Speaker 10: and doing all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 15: At what point does it stop?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't care who gets them mad at
Speaker 2: me for saying this. That's savagery like that, that really
Speaker 2: is the definition of savage shit and in the worst way.
Speaker 3: And you're right about the I forgot about them cutting
Speaker 3: off breast of women. Yeah, the Janjaweed was doing that
Speaker 3: in Africa, and uh, what was the rif the r
Speaker 3: UF Excuse me, how Sierra Leone They were known for
Speaker 3: doing that shit too. They were cutting off arms to
Speaker 3: like they would ask like short sleeve or long sleeve?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, that whole thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were doing that all so that these mothers,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't kill the mom they would just make sure
Speaker 3: that she would never be able to feed her children again,
Speaker 3: therefore killing the tribe and things like that. It was
Speaker 3: a brutal shit and they're still doing this today.
Speaker 2: So I not to be one of those people, but
Speaker 2: I feel like this wouldn't happen in the matriarchy. Just
Speaker 2: gonna throw that out there that I feel like that
Speaker 2: the clits wouldn't be getting cut off. What do you think?
Speaker 3: I don't believe that the matriarchy would allow that. I
Speaker 3: will say that matriarchal figures are not known for being
Speaker 3: kind to those that wrong them.
Speaker 4: I would highly advise people to look at the story
Speaker 4: of Budica, and I would highly advise people to look
Speaker 4: at Oga of Russia. And this is what I.
Speaker 3: Mean when I say and when the Bible said, hell
Speaker 3: hath no fury like a woman scorned when you fuck
Speaker 3: around with the wrong bitch and come to find out
Speaker 3: she's like a bad bitch, like one of those types
Speaker 3: people they write legends about them. That's what happens hillary which.
Speaker 4: One Budica or Olga.
Speaker 2: Olga has to be right.
Speaker 15: I like her too.
Speaker 4: I Budica's story is God's inspirational man, It's fucking amazing.
Speaker 3: She almost completely wiped out Roman Rome's presence in Britain
Speaker 3: because the Roman legion killed her husband and raped her
Speaker 3: daughters and beat her publicly in front of her tribe.
Speaker 3: And so she's like, oh, okay, so fuck you and
Speaker 3: the ships you came in on, and she unprecedentally unified
Speaker 3: all these tribes that could never come together for anything
Speaker 3: ever and led a massive, victorious assault.
Speaker 4: Against the Romans.
Speaker 3: Finally, they they kind of stretched themselves too thin and
Speaker 3: were defeated. But yeah, my point is, though, when women
Speaker 3: go to that level, they get put into the realm
Speaker 3: of legend.
Speaker 4: That that's what happens if the matriarchy gets a hold
Speaker 4: of these types.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I just I don't understand. So the
Speaker 2: idea for cutting clits off is to is it a
Speaker 2: punishment or do they think that all women should know
Speaker 2: women should have clits?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: They see that sex should only be for men's pleasure
Speaker 3: because women are second class citizens, if you even want
Speaker 3: to classify them as citizens, right, Like that's just how
Speaker 3: they see it.
Speaker 4: They don't get it.
Speaker 3: They don't get to vote, they don't get to drive,
Speaker 3: they don't get to go anywhere without their husband or
Speaker 3: like a male relative president.
Speaker 4: Like it's and this is not in all Muslim countries.
Speaker 4: I understand that, but not all Muslim countries are doing
Speaker 4: a vaginal brutal brutalization. Like we're clearly not talking about
Speaker 4: all of them.
Speaker 3: But the ones that do, Yeah, they basically see that
Speaker 3: sex should only be pleasurable ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 4: For the man. If a woman orgasms, then like.
Speaker 3: This is she's basically damaged goods like she's she is
Speaker 3: not even she's not clean. Why would you put a
Speaker 3: baby in that to have a half unclean baby. I mean,
Speaker 3: they take and they run with it to wild degrees
Speaker 3: and things. But it's like Zombie said, it's not only
Speaker 3: just to remove pleasure from them. In a lot of cases,
Speaker 3: it's done so that it always is painful for them
Speaker 3: to remind them of their place. And they even use
Speaker 3: certain segments of the Koran like how who this is
Speaker 3: gonna piss off some people. But understand this, This door
Speaker 3: swings both ways. Men didn't come out and scathed, but
Speaker 3: this one the story of.
Speaker 4: Adam and Eve. Okay, how Eve is pretty much all
Speaker 4: womankind now has to bear the pain of childbirth to
Speaker 4: be free of the sin of Eve. Okay, pause, Does
Speaker 4: that mean that every woman that can't produce a child
Speaker 4: is stuck with the sin of Eve?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: No, clearly not, clearly not.
Speaker 3: But the Muslims will take that to say that this
Speaker 3: is a part of your penance for Eve's bullshit. They
Speaker 3: will take it, they will miss it mistranslated. And for
Speaker 3: the record, like I said, men didn't come out and
Speaker 3: scathed either. We pretty much have to toil for slave
Speaker 3: labor to be free of our shit.
Speaker 4: So it's a part of it.
Speaker 3: Like anyway, it's this is a part of it all,
Speaker 3: and it's disgusting and people will take it and ruin it.
Speaker 3: And that's why that was also used as a portion
Speaker 3: to justify slavery at one point in time too. Clearly
Speaker 3: that is not what was being spoken of in Genesis.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Samuel, go ahead, we see with your hand
Speaker 2: up there, sir.
Speaker 5: So this is a two part of First off, I
Speaker 5: can't help but to think that the reason why they
Speaker 5: do it is to always make sure that their wives,
Speaker 5: if you want to calm that, I see them more
Speaker 5: is their.
Speaker 6: Sex slaves. But I can't help them to think of it.
Speaker 5: Back in the day down in the South unfortunately, oh,
Speaker 5: they were slavery prevalent through the South.
Speaker 6: I can't help them to think it.
Speaker 5: When the owners would have four or five pleasure goals
Speaker 5: and the.
Speaker 6: Offspring of that.
Speaker 5: Nine times a cent, it's probably forcibly wait, but I
Speaker 5: can't help. But that's why the mixed kids would be
Speaker 5: uh that would walk in the house they do, kitchen,
Speaker 5: walk in everything. But I can't help but to think
Speaker 5: that they attluded that the closest thing that what was
Speaker 5: happening over there in America was that.
Speaker 6: And it's sickening.
Speaker 5: And the ones that do that to children, I think
Speaker 5: the most ethical thing for us to.
Speaker 6: Do is to crucify them upside down. Of course.
Speaker 4: I like it, but this is the same thing with
Speaker 4: the chaiboys.
Speaker 3: This is the same culture that has Chai boys and
Speaker 3: will forcibly rape nine year old boys every Thursday.
Speaker 4: And this is the thing. Yeah, then this is their culture.
Speaker 4: This is you know, just how they do. Oh, they
Speaker 4: cut off their daughter's clits before they get married, and
Speaker 4: like maybe they survive, maybe they don't.
Speaker 3: It's just what they do. Man, it's their culture. Why
Speaker 3: why are you being so bigot it? Why are you
Speaker 3: judging their culture? They've done it for thousands of years.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, it's like, yeah, well, we live in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: four and I'm all about killing evil people. So like,
Speaker 4: what's up, bro, do you.
Speaker 2: Want to see a fucked up website I'm about to
Speaker 2: show you.
Speaker 4: I'm very scared of what you're about to show me, Jonathan.
Speaker 2: You probably should be. But this says this is from
Speaker 2: India today, and it says, buddy, yes, female genital mutilation
Speaker 2: happens in India. Here's everything you need to know.
Speaker 4: Um oh, man, India has a very large Muslim population.
Speaker 4: By the way, their money has ten different languages on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not necessarily Hindu. But it says they promise
Speaker 2: you a chocolate, a movie, or just an outing, they
Speaker 2: take you instead to a dingy dark room, pin you
Speaker 2: to a bed, take off your pants, and cut that
Speaker 2: tiny part off of you that was eventually supposed to
Speaker 2: make you experience one of the greatest pleasures of being
Speaker 2: a woman with blades, knives, or anything remotely sharp and long.
Speaker 2: They cut off your glitteris and they say that it's
Speaker 2: in the name of culture. All this when you're a
Speaker 2: young girl of seven, eight or nine. And then it
Speaker 2: gets into female genital mutilation also known as katna or
Speaker 2: calves is. The Muslim Bora community where it is practiced
Speaker 2: in India, does not have any laws in India banning it.
Speaker 2: The United Nations has declared female genital mutilation a human
Speaker 2: rights violation, and yet the act is not banned in India.
Speaker 2: It says, so why do some girls have to go
Speaker 2: through the torture in the community. The glitterist part, the
Speaker 2: clitorist part of a woman's vagina is also known as
Speaker 2: haram kei boti or source of sin or more simply
Speaker 2: unwanted skin. The idea behind cutting off this part of
Speaker 2: the vagina is padded with centuries of patriarchy. If a
Speaker 2: woman knows the pleasure she can receive through it, she
Speaker 2: might go astray in the marriage or bring shame to
Speaker 2: the community for the.
Speaker 4: Uninitial to keep them from cheating.
Speaker 2: Oh that's it, okay, Jesus, It says for the uninitiated.
Speaker 2: The glitterists has more nerve endings than anywhere else in
Speaker 2: the female body. So depending on how sensitive a woman's
Speaker 2: glitterist is, they either derive absolute pleasure from it or
Speaker 2: its stimulation can sometimes even lead to pain. The most
Speaker 2: interesting nugget of information is that the sole purpose of
Speaker 2: the glitterists is to derive pleasure. No other male or
Speaker 2: female organ is designed only for pleasure, according to psychology today,
Speaker 2: So who cuts it off? Untrained midwives or older women
Speaker 2: in the community are usually the ones carrying out this procedure.
Speaker 2: The procedure is carried out usually with a knife or
Speaker 2: a blade, on girls aged anywhere between six and ten,
Speaker 2: and the idea is to get it over with before
Speaker 2: they hit puberty. More often than not, girls end up
Speaker 2: getting unwanted infections, they have to tolerate extreme pain or
Speaker 2: just end up bleeding for days together because of the
Speaker 2: lack of training of the women performing these procedures.
Speaker 4: Dude, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: And that's just in India, which is seen as like
Speaker 3: not necessarily a third world country. You want to talk
Speaker 3: about what's going on in the wild places on Earth, dude.
Speaker 2: Shit, well, dude, it says oh Man this is fucked up,
Speaker 2: but it says how does the female general mutilation affect
Speaker 2: women later in life? It says cases of some women
Speaker 2: blocking out the horror, the horrid experience completely have been reported.
Speaker 2: They don't even know what's been done to their body.
Speaker 2: It's a very effective psychological way of blocking out pain
Speaker 2: from early years. Minor rape victims have been reported using
Speaker 2: the same defense mechanism to quote unquote erase the painful memory.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, no doubt you block out certain things from
Speaker 3: your past, dude.
Speaker 4: I know people personally.
Speaker 3: I've had to go to therapy for years and years
Speaker 3: to unblock things so that they could deal with the
Speaker 3: source of their trauma.
Speaker 4: Because they are dealing with things five years after the
Speaker 4: fact that they actually have no memory of because they
Speaker 4: actually blocked it out like subconsciously. It's it is horrible
Speaker 4: what these people go through.
Speaker 2: Man as even the ones who remember look at sexual
Speaker 2: intercourse as just an activity they need to do after marriage.
Speaker 2: The idea of pleasure thrown out the window. And then
Speaker 2: there's this quote by a mother from the Bora community
Speaker 2: of Mumbai that she said, I don't think I've ever
Speaker 2: enjoyed sex in my marriage. I often wonder what it
Speaker 2: would have been like if it if I hadn't been cut.
Speaker 2: The sad part is is that I'll never.
Speaker 3: Know, right, and she'll never know what an orgasm is,
Speaker 3: because I mean unless she ever did something with herself
Speaker 3: in private that no one ever knows about or whatever.
Speaker 4: That's the point. It's like, well, I guess I'll never
Speaker 4: know what I missed, So it's whatever. It's like what well,
Speaker 4: it says.
Speaker 2: The Muslim Bora community is spread over west over the
Speaker 2: western cities of India, Pakistan, Yemen, East Africa, and some
Speaker 2: strown uh strewn parts of America and Australia. India is
Speaker 2: now becoming the hub for female genital mutilation because of
Speaker 2: the recent legal action taken against fel genital mutilation among
Speaker 2: Boras in Australia and USA. In twenty sixteen, Australia sentenced
Speaker 2: three Dawooti Boras to fifteen months in jail under the
Speaker 2: country's female genital mutilation law. In twenty seventeen, United States
Speaker 2: officials arrested two doctors in Detroit for allegedly cutting the
Speaker 2: private parts off of six girls, and the trial is
Speaker 2: still underway.
Speaker 3: Holy interesting, Michigan. Remember how we have that Deer Park,
Speaker 3: Michigan that has the massive Muslim population.
Speaker 4: So they had two doctors in Detroit that were performing
Speaker 4: this procedure. Mmm, zombie, go ahead.
Speaker 16: I just cannot fathom how other women could brutally do
Speaker 16: this to children at little girls, Like I just can't.
Speaker 16: I've watched a lot of the Ted talks of like
Speaker 16: the women that have come forward or discussing this, and
Speaker 16: like I've read a lot about this actually, and I
Speaker 16: just can't gather it. Like I know that there has
Speaker 16: been like other.
Speaker 10: People too that they were trying to get it like
Speaker 10: happening here in America. But thankfully we have so much
Speaker 10: more laws and you know, people come forward and stuff.
Speaker 15: But I just don't. I can't grasp it.
Speaker 10: Like why I would you as a woman do this
Speaker 10: to another woman, and let alone a child, a little girl.
Speaker 2: Cool, that's what they said.
Speaker 4: Reprisals that they don't.
Speaker 10: Well, they actually agree with it. There is one there
Speaker 10: is a Ted talk where they were discussing that where
Speaker 10: the women were fighting back and forth because it's not
Speaker 10: always the men. In some places it's the men, in
Speaker 10: some places it's the women. And I just forgot about
Speaker 10: bringing the women up into it. But like there is
Speaker 10: a ted talk about the women are arguing back and
Speaker 10: forth in the village itself, and half the women agreed
Speaker 10: with doing this, like it's a part of their it's
Speaker 10: inherently a part of their culture. This has been done
Speaker 10: for all this time. How dare they rebucket? Like the
Speaker 10: men are going to be angry and all this stuff.
Speaker 10: And then the other half were like, look at what.
Speaker 15: Done to us?
Speaker 10: Why how could you even say this is acceptable? And
Speaker 10: so like it's not even a clear like you know, divide.
Speaker 10: I mean, it's a clear advide over there, Like it's
Speaker 10: not even the women are all rallying together.
Speaker 15: It's half and half or like more like you know, well,
Speaker 15: this is what we just have to do.
Speaker 4: It's true.
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot more women Islamic apologists in the
Speaker 3: past decade than ever before. And these people are these
Speaker 3: women are like defending showing how Islam is actually a
Speaker 3: religion of feminism, and like they always reference the fact
Speaker 3: that they don't have to take their husband's last.
Speaker 17: Name and like that's their big stick of like see,
Speaker 17: it's for the women, and like everything else about it
Speaker 17: makes them second class citizens and lesser than but like
Speaker 17: they will do a podcast and talk about it somehow.
Speaker 2: It's wild, dude, tradition. I mean, people will try and
Speaker 2: die on the hill of upholding tradition over almost anything
Speaker 2: else because this is what's regular. It's it's used to
Speaker 2: being done. And dude, what that woman was saying is
Speaker 2: what she was like, well, you know you want to
Speaker 2: get it done or like sooner than later. That way
Speaker 2: you can get it over with. It's almost like they're
Speaker 2: treating them like dogs. Like you know, some dogs you
Speaker 2: get the tail cut off, right, like boxers and pit
Speaker 2: bulls and shit like that. You get the tails cut
Speaker 2: off at like a super early age. You get it
Speaker 2: over with that because their puppies they probably won't remember
Speaker 2: from it. Yeah, well, I mean technically, I mean, you
Speaker 2: shouldn't be clipping any dog's ears. Like there's a lot the.
Speaker 4: Pit for boar hunting. You better clip the mirrors.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of like veterinarians that won't even
Speaker 2: do it anymore. It's like because a lot of dogs
Speaker 2: can get like super super ear infections from it, and
Speaker 2: especially having their ears exposed and up like that. Dude,
Speaker 2: the ear infections are crazy and it's just seen as
Speaker 2: an unnecessary like thing to even do it.
Speaker 3: Is for people who are doing it just because now
Speaker 3: back in the day, you people that were raising pits
Speaker 3: for fighting and they were clipping the ears.
Speaker 4: I disagree with pitt.
Speaker 3: Fighting, but like, if you're having hunting dogs and they're
Speaker 3: like the pit bulls, that are gonna be actually like
Speaker 3: latching onto the boarhog. I'm gonna tell you now, you
Speaker 3: want the mearors clipped because they will get them shits
Speaker 3: tore off going into the brush after them pigs. But
Speaker 3: but that's for a purpose. There's like a whole reason
Speaker 3: for that, you know what I mean. That's that's different.
Speaker 2: But anyway, and uh, mister Tynis from Narnia, what to
Speaker 2: do Homie?
Speaker 4: By Narnia, do you mean the actual Do you mean Kentucky?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Kentucky. Yeah.
Speaker 18: So this is first off, I like, I listened to
Speaker 18: y'all's podcasts like every day at work, and it's like
Speaker 18: every time I have something to comment and I forget
Speaker 18: every single time there's a live and I'm like, oh crap,
Speaker 18: what am I gonna say? But anyways, my thing with
Speaker 18: y'all right now is like with the whole mutilation thing,
Speaker 18: I don't know how even a guy would enjoy it either,
Speaker 18: Like my wife is right here also listening, and we
Speaker 18: were just discussing, like how can the guy even get
Speaker 18: pleasure from that female mutilation because it's like, you know,
Speaker 18: if they cut off the clip, they can't get excited
Speaker 18: or anything lit else like that. And it's like it
Speaker 18: hurts the guy just to go in rag dog like that,
Speaker 18: Like how is that any bit enjoyable?
Speaker 3: No, I have no foreplay of getting it ready to go,
Speaker 3: getting it wet, nothing.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's very rapey, the entire marriage.
Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, dude. Now I was thinking about that.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't I never understood this is gonna
Speaker 2: sound even fucked up to even bring up. But like
Speaker 2: the idea of men who get off to like rape
Speaker 2: porn or just rape in general, I never like could
Speaker 2: comprehend that because the sexiest thing to me is a
Speaker 2: woman getting off to what I'm doing to her, Like
Speaker 2: that's what gets me off. That's I feel like that's
Speaker 2: most men, right, Like you want to see your woman, like,
Speaker 2: you know, enjoying her because of what you're doing kinda
Speaker 2: you know, and so the.
Speaker 3: Into it and into each other together, not one person's
Speaker 3: like screaming and shit. But I you know, different strokes
Speaker 3: are from folks. To your point, I get it bro weird.
Speaker 7: I I don't.
Speaker 18: I don't get it myself either, because I mean I'm
Speaker 18: the same way as you, Jonathan, Like I you know,
Speaker 18: I I want to see my wife having a good time, not.
Speaker 3: To me, no, no, no, But let me even throw
Speaker 3: this very ugly uncomfortable thing out. How many married couples
Speaker 3: in America right now, regardless of platoral uh, you know,
Speaker 3: mutilation or not, how many guys are forcing themselves on
Speaker 3: their wives all the time currently and it's dry and
Speaker 3: there's no foreplay, and it's very rapey anyway.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. It's like, how can they
Speaker 4: do that? Personally?
Speaker 3: I speaking from experience, what is always better than dry?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: That's just Jacob, you know what I mean. I don't
Speaker 3: like sandpaper, I like lube involved.
Speaker 4: This is me, but like, is it Some guys are
Speaker 4: into that for very disgusting reasons that maybe they don't
Speaker 4: say out loud, but like that's a thing and you
Speaker 4: have it's fucked yeah.
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, I mean in this in this case, I'd
Speaker 18: say Jacob is right. Uh, it's it's just I don't
Speaker 18: I don't ever get it. But that's that's just me.
Speaker 18: I'll shut up now, Well you're good.
Speaker 3: I mean see it as these dudes just doing whatever
Speaker 3: to get their nut.
Speaker 2: Well there's that, But then, you know, I could imagine
Speaker 2: that a talking point to this and this is going
Speaker 2: to be fucked up. So don't fry me for this.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get into them. I always trying to.
Speaker 2: I like to understand the psychology, not to agree with it,
Speaker 2: but just to understand it. I could imagine that a
Speaker 2: key talking point to this conversation would say, well, a
Speaker 2: woman doesn't need the orgasm to get pregnant, right.
Speaker 3: So God made women's orgasms an afterthought. Think about that though.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if a dude doesn't come, there's no
Speaker 3: baby that gets born. If a woman doesn't come, she
Speaker 3: can still get pregnant.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a fuck up point. I'm just like this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a fucked up point. I'm just trying to, you know,
Speaker 2: like get in their mind as to why they think
Speaker 2: this is okay.
Speaker 3: It could very well play into it, bro And like,
Speaker 3: for the record, I'm not happy about that.
Speaker 4: I think that's bullshit too.
Speaker 2: I mean there'd be far less humans on this world.
Speaker 3: Yes, but that's also why there's so many lazy dudes
Speaker 3: that don't ever learn how to actually like do anything
Speaker 3: with the clip because it's just about catching their no,
Speaker 3: because that's all that matters. It's like, yeah, he I
Speaker 3: try that role reversal, motherfucker.
Speaker 18: But anyway, Oh yeah, dude, I mean the the guy
Speaker 18: doesn't really have to in order to actually get the
Speaker 18: girl pregnant though pre Comb.
Speaker 3: Right, though, pre Com could absolutely make it happen.
Speaker 2: All pregnancies are from pre Com.
Speaker 10: No, they has it has twenty five percent of viable
Speaker 10: sperm in it, and so yeah, it can.
Speaker 15: It can achieve that, especially if like the eggs are.
Speaker 10: Lower and stuff like that or there, or it sits
Speaker 10: in the cervical inside the service itself, there's places little
Speaker 10: pockets where sperm can live and be living for three
Speaker 10: months because it gets nourishment. They don't just die like
Speaker 10: everyone assumes they do. They actually live inside in those
Speaker 10: little pockets and they hang out until an egg gets
Speaker 10: close enough.
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I see squirre in animal's face. Yeah, it's horrifying.
Speaker 10: So like your pull out game better be like the
Speaker 10: best ever in all of eternity.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a like rated mature conversation
Speaker 2: happening right now.
Speaker 10: Sure, But like to your comment there, Jonathan, I was like,
Speaker 10: they're like the mindset of people. This is kind of
Speaker 10: like the men where like their women have had a
Speaker 10: pisiognies where they cut the paraneum in childbirth or they've
Speaker 10: torn and there the husbands say like we'll throwing an
Speaker 10: extra stitch for me yep, and like, you know, the
Speaker 10: whole pleasure seeing. Yeah, no, you're that's a topic that
Speaker 10: I will go off on quickly.
Speaker 4: So but that whole thing is stupid.
Speaker 3: The outside is not what you want, tight homie, right,
Speaker 3: So you're doing that as fucking pointless but whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought about that too. I was like, hmmm,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's gonna make it tighter, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, that's not the same thing.
Speaker 4: That's not even a little bit.
Speaker 3: If anything, it makes the part that you really want,
Speaker 3: like as a really good open entrance, it makes that
Speaker 3: door shut more, which leads to more discomfort.
Speaker 4: That doesn't feel good for either party these people have.
Speaker 2: Been Essentially, that's just making the that's just making the
Speaker 2: taint bigger, isn't it?
Speaker 4: Yes, who wants bigger taste?
Speaker 15: It just makes the peer. It makes the paraneum bigger.
Speaker 2: I like my girl with a big taint. Okay, it's
Speaker 2: the paraneum.
Speaker 10: It's a paraneum, my god, No, it just it actually
Speaker 10: screws up a lot of different things and they end
Speaker 10: up not being able to have sex at all.
Speaker 15: If it's so wrong and stuff like that.
Speaker 19: So all right, Joe, I finally figured out how to
Speaker 19: do this shit. Bro on my phone, bro, y'all got me,
Speaker 19: y'all got me at work? Hell yeah, bro, I was
Speaker 19: listening to y'all's podcast last night, the Christmas Ones. I
Speaker 19: don't know if you've seen my comment or not, but
Speaker 19: Jonathan Bro, you had me ugly fucking laughing at three
Speaker 19: o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 6: Stocking this lows bullshit.
Speaker 19: Wait when he was talking about that bomb that the
Speaker 19: Witches used to fly and ship, oh.
Speaker 2: That's real shit, it's flying ointment.
Speaker 4: You had me fucked up too. I was like, I
Speaker 4: know I've heard it before, but somehow it hit extra
Speaker 4: when you did it on that last that.
Speaker 19: Was solid you talked about somebody was focus and then
Speaker 19: out of nowhere. You hear his deep ass belly laugh
Speaker 19: in the back corner of as coming from me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I'm I'm planning on telling that story at uh,
Speaker 2: like like the Christmas dinner. I'm just gonna fucking blow
Speaker 2: some minds.
Speaker 4: Uh hell yeah. So you know with the sausage snatcher too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, like which is got me going crazy. Dog.
Speaker 4: I was actually last Christmas, I actually drew.
Speaker 19: I drew all twelve of the Yule ass but I
Speaker 19: thought the names were wild as fuck.
Speaker 4: And when y'all brought him up, I was like, oh, yes,
Speaker 4: he's my people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that was a fun conversation. I just love Shane.
Speaker 2: He's such a good dude.
Speaker 4: Fuck yeah and stuff too. Man, I'll be drinking that
Speaker 4: kombucha shit too, Bro.
Speaker 12: That was a lot of good knowledge.
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, dude. Yeah, I stayed drinking that shit.
Speaker 2: And I gotta say, like, dude, that store boll shit
Speaker 2: is bullshit compared to the people that are like making
Speaker 2: it themselves. I tried to make it myself one time.
Speaker 2: I was able to like develop and create the mother,
Speaker 2: which you know is just made from the black tea
Speaker 2: and sugar and stuff. Because you the mother. It's like,
Speaker 2: it's another word. What was it called. It's it's the
Speaker 2: gelatinous film, right, Uh, Scoby, That's what it was, Skobe. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people will refer to it as
Speaker 2: the mother, but it's it's the Scoby and it's just
Speaker 2: a gelatinous film. And that's like what gives you all
Speaker 2: the good bacteria whenever you drink kombucha. And I was
Speaker 2: able to make that, but the problem was is that, dude,
Speaker 2: it attracts so many fucking fruit fruit flies It's unreal.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I'm giving up on this, Like
Speaker 2: I like, I don't have a barn that I can
Speaker 2: go and do this, and I'm definitely not doing the
Speaker 2: shit in my house. All the fruit flies that are
Speaker 2: coming it was crazy.
Speaker 19: So you're saying that the scorebox stuff isn't good, like
Speaker 19: the the synergy, Like could I usually get like that
Speaker 19: pineapple synergy shit?
Speaker 2: I mean it's better than nothing, you know. But it's like,
Speaker 2: would you rather drink spring water rate from the actual
Speaker 2: spring itself or do you want to drink like aquafina.
Speaker 2: It's that kind of compared Garrison, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get you know, I'm just curious how hard
Speaker 3: is it to start a kombucha company, because like it's
Speaker 3: something that you seem to love, Jonathan, and I don't know,
Speaker 3: but like could the culta Conspiracy have a kombucha brand,
Speaker 3: a micro krumbuchery out of this real word or but
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, like can we start
Speaker 3: small on scale up?
Speaker 4: Like is there a market for this?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: It by it?
Speaker 5: See.
Speaker 2: The thing is is that it takes a while to
Speaker 2: actually make, you know, like if you say that, like
Speaker 2: let's say you can.
Speaker 4: Already a gurse, you have to wait.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like making wine.
Speaker 2: So it takes weeks, right, Like that scoby has to
Speaker 2: saturate all of the tea, Like you're still taking the
Speaker 2: same scoby and you're applying it to the black tea
Speaker 2: and the sugar. Even still, because you don't have to
Speaker 2: create a new scoby every time you're making a new
Speaker 2: batch of kombucha. You can take that same scoby and
Speaker 2: it's good for a couple of months. And but even still,
Speaker 2: that still has to saturate. And then you have to
Speaker 2: still saturate you know, whatever kind of fruit or whatever
Speaker 2: you're trying to put into it, and so if somebody
Speaker 2: was to order that, they wouldn't be able to get
Speaker 2: it for two or three weeks at least. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of about pain in the ass business. And that's
Speaker 2: why you'll have certain businesses that go into Walmart and
Speaker 2: gas stations and shit where it's not exactly kombucha. It
Speaker 2: can be labeled as that, but it's kind of like
Speaker 2: the bullshit version of it.
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna we'll discuss this more later offline,
Speaker 3: but potentially bro people might need to check out for
Speaker 3: the next a few years from now. This is not
Speaker 3: right now, I can tell you now, Like we got
Speaker 3: too many irons and too many fires at this moment.
Speaker 3: But like I don't see why we couldn't make a
Speaker 3: micro kombuchery to where like we would do a run
Speaker 3: a batch and.
Speaker 4: Then sell them, and then do another batch and then
Speaker 4: sell that.
Speaker 3: And we would have it like pre ordered, and like
Speaker 3: we would have to get good at it first, we
Speaker 3: woul and just like experiment and sell that we'd like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's what I'm saying, give us some years
Speaker 3: for R and D. Like I wouldn't see a problem
Speaker 3: thus making a big batch and then selling it.
Speaker 2: Oh, dude. I mean the homemade shit is tits, dude,
Speaker 2: like it is delicious.
Speaker 3: I'll start looking into what it takes to get like
Speaker 3: what kind of kitchen you need in order to pass
Speaker 3: the beverage walls and things.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll keep everybody posted on this. Zombie.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jommy, do you like kimbucha?
Speaker 4: Same? I don't funk with it, but apparently people love this.
Speaker 10: From the place of Kimbucha Land, where you could get
Speaker 10: every type of kimbuchi you could possibly freaking think of.
Speaker 15: In Oregon, they are obsessed with that shit. We have kombucha.
Speaker 10: Bars where, like you literally walk up they have like
Speaker 10: food trucks that are kimbucha bars. They have them like
Speaker 10: anywhere everywhere. They have like kimbucha everything. But I don't
Speaker 10: particularly care for it, but I actually do know people
Speaker 10: that make it, so I could definitely talk with them.
Speaker 10: I know my uh my half sister has made kombucha
Speaker 10: as well. She her and her husband did it for
Speaker 10: like two years. But I mean, it is really good
Speaker 10: for you, and there is there is a market. It's
Speaker 10: not as popular down here, but it is gaining in popularity.
Speaker 4: So I'm selling to the COLT members.
Speaker 10: I mean you like, yeah, the problem is is shipping
Speaker 10: it and you have to like the the keeping it cold,
Speaker 10: and like the problem is is you would end up
Speaker 10: paying like fifty dollars in dry ice to ship instead
Speaker 10: and then like to meet the regulations because there's it's
Speaker 10: weird certain states have better regulations on food than other states.
Speaker 10: But now that RFK is coming in, it should be
Speaker 10: like everything should be starting to change because like California
Speaker 10: just popped off today banning like six of finally six
Speaker 10: of the ingredients and like targeting Pepsi and Kelloggs and
Speaker 10: like another company. So like, depending on what happens with
Speaker 10: this whole movement with RFK, like things are finally coming
Speaker 10: to light that everybody else has been talking about for years.
Speaker 2: So I don't know cold, yes, oh, it's it's one
Speaker 2: of those things that like live, it's right, right, it's alive.
Speaker 2: But it's one of those things that it's kind of
Speaker 2: a farmer's market kind of deal, you know.
Speaker 4: Never mind, never mind, that's that's not nearly as No.
Speaker 10: You'd be better off making your own beer and having
Speaker 10: like your own small micro brewery where you add in
Speaker 10: like extra enzymes and like different types of yeasts and
Speaker 10: stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, welcome, No.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, not the beer idea, but I like that too.
Speaker 3: But hold on, we've heard now recently about alcoholic kombucha.
Speaker 3: Does that still have to stay refrigerated too or does that?
Speaker 4: Know it matter? Because like, doesn't the alcohol kill the
Speaker 4: live part?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean even the all kombucha is alcoholic, it's
Speaker 2: just how high the content of alcohol is in it.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, like you go to bars, like we
Speaker 3: just talked to our boy and he was talking how
Speaker 3: it's like a sour beer almost you can get like
Speaker 3: six or seven ABV kombucha.
Speaker 4: So does the alcohol kill the live part? And if so,
Speaker 4: could we ship that? Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that it would kill it because even
Speaker 2: the regular way of making kombucha, I mean, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a tiny percentage of alcohol in it just because of
Speaker 2: the fermentation.
Speaker 3: But like I don't know, Well, that's where vinegar comes from,
Speaker 3: is wine that was left too long. So to make kombuchi,
Speaker 3: you're basically making wine and then letting it go even
Speaker 3: more deeper into the rotting process.
Speaker 2: Which it's interesting because beer would technically kind of be
Speaker 2: the opposite of kombucha, because beer, dude, it destroys your gut,
Speaker 2: like it's horrible for you. That's why everybody that is
Speaker 2: a regular drinker, they have that beer gut. It's literally
Speaker 2: fucking imploding or exploding in on itself, you know, because
Speaker 2: it's given you all that yeez and all that, Like
Speaker 2: it's bad. Bacteria is really what it is.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's what it is, right, That yeast eats
Speaker 3: away at the sugars, and basically the gas that's emitted
Speaker 3: from that gets converted to alcohol, and then that's what makes.
Speaker 4: It into the beer and the wines and all these things.
Speaker 3: But I don't believe that, and I might. I could
Speaker 3: very well be wrong on this. Apologies. I'm not a
Speaker 3: brew master, but I don't know if you leave beer
Speaker 3: like for too long, if it will go to vinegar,
Speaker 3: if it goes to what.
Speaker 4: But I know wine, if you leave too long, will
Speaker 4: go to vinegar. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Personally, but I could see where you're getting it from.
Speaker 3: Like this is the opposite effect of the yeast. I mean,
Speaker 3: like it's earlier in the stage of it.
Speaker 2: You let an EpiPen expire, turns into adrenochrome, which was In.
Speaker 4: Fact, you can. You can check the warning labels on
Speaker 4: those that is real life people, because I actually went
Speaker 4: and saw one that's real. Shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. That's even on the label for
Speaker 2: something that has been research into, this, for something that
Speaker 2: has been debated for so long. Oh, adrenochrome. It's not
Speaker 2: a real thing. Well why does it say it? Like
Speaker 2: on the EpiPen that whatever it expires, it turns to adrenochrome.
Speaker 2: You know, Like, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: If it's not a risk, why are you making a
Speaker 4: warning label about it?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Like, if if I could go down so many examples
Speaker 4: of things that they say aren't real yet somehow there's
Speaker 4: laws preventing it and shit, but whatever.
Speaker 2: Some might say that the spirit animal isn't real, but
Speaker 2: he's here and he has his hand up. What's up, Samuel?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 5: Going back to when y'all was talking about the kombucha
Speaker 5: and everything, my store sells it, but we sell the
Speaker 5: probiotic in all. But it gave me the idea to
Speaker 5: I want to try to see if I can take
Speaker 5: mead and all. I want to see if I can
Speaker 5: make like a sweet tea wine type deal.
Speaker 4: Oh twine, dude, I guess I mean, oh tearing twine.
Speaker 3: Man, you talk about my high school days. A little
Speaker 3: sweet tea wine combo that brook.
Speaker 6: No, I have all the stuff I need to make mead.
Speaker 5: I've made up peach me before, but uh, my first batch,
Speaker 5: I made it when I was drunk, so it kind
Speaker 5: of came out a little weird. But I'm gonna I
Speaker 5: got it down pat now, so I'm gonna make I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do a gallon of strawberry. I'm gonna do a
Speaker 5: try to do a gallon of blueberry that I'm gonna
Speaker 5: try to do a gallon of muscadine.
Speaker 4: But muscadine mead sounds nice.
Speaker 5: I've had Muscadin moonshine, so I kind of liked it.
Speaker 3: The best I've had was muscadon one, and I will
Speaker 3: argue that that is the best wine I've ever had
Speaker 3: in my life.
Speaker 4: However, I have not thought about muscodon like that. The
Speaker 4: mead that sounds quite delectable. Sir, I really hope that
Speaker 4: you have a success on this. I hope to hear
Speaker 4: good news here soon.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you. But also, did you know that the
Speaker 6: muscadin the it is the own. It is a great.
Speaker 5: It's a thick skinned grape, but it is native to America. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but it it it's just and it's bigger than the
Speaker 5: European grapes. And I just can't help but to think
Speaker 5: everything's bigger in America. Our appetite. I love for guns,
Speaker 5: and I love for democracy quote unquote.
Speaker 4: No doubt. You know what's also? Uh, what was the
Speaker 4: musculine in may Hall? I want to try some may
Speaker 4: Hall wine. I've heard that's delicious.
Speaker 5: I've lived in South Georgia my entire life. I have
Speaker 5: no fucking idea what may Hall is.
Speaker 4: But I got you google.
Speaker 6: Watermelon while I lived.
Speaker 5: The town that I was I've lived in most of
Speaker 5: my life is uh, it's the water melon capital of
Speaker 5: the world.
Speaker 6: Not the dogs.
Speaker 5: Myself, but anyway, we have a festival for watermelons.
Speaker 20: The next town that I've lived in a good chunk
Speaker 20: of my life was Warts County and it uh it
Speaker 20: had the Grits Festival and Ashburn, where a good section
Speaker 20: of my family lives. Uh, it has the fire Ant Festival.
Speaker 20: So I the fire Ants Festival. Yeah, the hell's wrong
Speaker 20: with y'all?
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 5: I was a kid and I watched two Chicks like
Speaker 5: getting a kiddie pool full of grits and wrestle and
Speaker 5: that was that was quite eye opening when I was eight.
Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, fair enough, but uh so yo, this
Speaker 4: is a mayhall.
Speaker 3: They grow on a tree. They are Yeah.
Speaker 6: He's going with my grandma's backyard.
Speaker 3: Well, so a lot of people will see per Simmons
Speaker 3: and think that that's this, But yeah, I most people
Speaker 3: turn it into jelly. Most people don't just eat the
Speaker 3: fruit itself. I'm not one hundred percent sure of the reason.
Speaker 3: But I've heard that they make the most incredible wine ever,
Speaker 3: and I've heard it's better than muscadine.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe one day I'll find out, but yeah.
Speaker 7: I'm with you.
Speaker 5: My grandma has a mulberry tree that has been grown
Speaker 5: up my whole life. Mulberry wine fucks next the time
Speaker 5: it has a harvest.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna try to connect about six five got them?
Speaker 6: It's full.
Speaker 3: So and you're talking about infusing this with your meat,
Speaker 3: which sounds amazing. So, Samuel, if and when you ever
Speaker 3: get these micro batches of mead produced, I would love
Speaker 3: to hear some some testing results.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 5: I'd give I was gonna gift you some and everything anyway, So.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, but I no longer drink so thank
Speaker 3: you respectfully, polite pass. But perhaps Jonathan would actually take
Speaker 3: a bottle of the meat, and I'll tell you what,
Speaker 3: I'll drink it like me if we meet face to
Speaker 3: face and we'll drink it together.
Speaker 4: How about that.
Speaker 2: I'll definitely drink a little bit of mead. My first
Speaker 2: ever meat experience was at Renfest, and well, one meat
Speaker 2: was delicious, the other one was one of the worst
Speaker 2: things I've ever tasted in my life.
Speaker 5: So it all depends on how they do it. My
Speaker 5: fushed messed up it. My fresh batch. I spoiled it.
Speaker 5: I didn't activate my yeast and I put it in dry,
Speaker 5: which screwed it. But I see used frozen strawberries. You're
Speaker 5: not supposed to use strawberries, and yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 5: It's a process.
Speaker 4: We live and learn, brother, we live and learn. All
Speaker 4: that was lost was some strawberry, some yeast, and some honey.
Speaker 4: You know, grand scheme of shit.
Speaker 2: All right, we are super slacking on reading the messages.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, we haven't gone to the messages once.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm sorry everybody. We've just been kind of
Speaker 4: bouncing zombie.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead first before we get to those.
Speaker 10: Well, now I don't want to say it because you're
Speaker 10: all about to read, but I was going to ask
Speaker 10: you if you guys heard about the funding for we're
Speaker 10: speaking of growing things and I like vertical farming and
Speaker 10: hydroponic farming. You're getting there now, getting giving loans out
Speaker 10: to be able to do this, which is actually really
Speaker 10: cool if people are into vertical farming, because you can
Speaker 10: actually make so much it the they're actually proving that
Speaker 10: it's being more effective. But you could grow enough food
Speaker 10: for like a whole town in just one warehouse from
Speaker 10: vertical farming. But they're while we're talking on this subject
Speaker 10: of food and stuff like that, but yeah.
Speaker 2: How high vertically are they going with it? Do you
Speaker 2: know they can?
Speaker 10: They've the big one that they have that they've proven
Speaker 10: still holds nutrients is six tier tall, but they're also
Speaker 10: across an entire warehouse. Like they're massive, and like that
Speaker 10: could feed a ton of people. They've been testing the
Speaker 10: nutrient level it does. It is slightly lower in certain plants,
Speaker 10: but they've also been figuring out ways to help the
Speaker 10: help the soil that they're using and the different types
Speaker 10: of bulbs they're using to try to make sure that
Speaker 10: it's actually gaining nutrition instead of losing any type of nutrition.
Speaker 10: And they rotate in these cool like racks and they
Speaker 10: like go up and down and stuff. Yeah, and there's
Speaker 10: there's a big one that has like ten feet tall,
Speaker 10: like ten stack tall one, but that's the one that
Speaker 10: they're like testing on and stuff. Yeah, you can actually
Speaker 10: get like government funding now to start trying to doing
Speaker 10: your own vertical farming. So cause that's the quote way
Speaker 10: of the new wave of how to do stuff because
Speaker 10: you can control the pesticides. They're not using pesticides in
Speaker 10: these things because there's no bugs in the in there
Speaker 10: and they're being able.
Speaker 15: To control that. So it's eliminating that.
Speaker 10: Whole factor of you know, of having monsanto poor pesticides
Speaker 10: on everything.
Speaker 15: So that's a big, a big thing that people can
Speaker 15: look into.
Speaker 2: That's pretty badass.
Speaker 3: They're able to put both lights all over the walls
Speaker 3: and take care of that problem. They have rodent traps
Speaker 3: outside to take care of that. And it does, in fact,
Speaker 3: it's more efficient farming. It does produce a higher yield
Speaker 3: on a lot of crops. And man, I didn't know
Speaker 3: the government was actually giving loans for people to do that.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's for the smaller scale, like if
Speaker 3: somebody's trying to do something like this for their home,
Speaker 3: could they get a grant or is it for it
Speaker 3: has to be like a community project to get it.
Speaker 3: But that's good that the government's allotting that. And I'm
Speaker 3: bummed that the farming has gotten so fucked that we
Speaker 3: can't even use the soil that God literally put here
Speaker 3: for us to do that with. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: this is kind of because of how population density works,
Speaker 3: this could solve a lot of those problems.
Speaker 4: That's legit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably wouldn't have such a big issue with
Speaker 2: monocropping either at that point.
Speaker 3: No, not at all due this type of So my
Speaker 3: parents have a greenhouse and they have a hydroponic setup.
Speaker 3: They do this and I'm telling you now, dude, I've
Speaker 3: never seen the crops that they have in this.
Speaker 4: I've never seen that.
Speaker 3: Vegetable grow that large that fast, and like it is
Speaker 3: packed with nutrients and it's natural. They're not using pesticides
Speaker 3: and shit, they're balancing the pH and they're doing all
Speaker 3: of these It's insane.
Speaker 2: Dude, mister Tys Narnia, Go ahead.
Speaker 18: Sir, so, I mean you were talking about the population
Speaker 18: density and all that. Uh my, my school when I
Speaker 18: when I was in school a long time ago, we
Speaker 18: actually did, uh I guess the math and and worked
Speaker 18: it out. You know, you could actually take the entire
Speaker 18: world population if you were to pack them in the
Speaker 18: same amount of space that you pack people in New York.
Speaker 18: You could take the entire world's population, put them in
Speaker 18: the state of Texas, and leave the rest of the.
Speaker 2: World for farming, which would actually be sound.
Speaker 18: But it's just because you know, everybody wants more land
Speaker 18: than all that, you're not going to be able to
Speaker 18: put everybody in you know, the population that people live
Speaker 18: in New York. But you know that just goes to
Speaker 18: show you that, like everybody is so fucking scattered and
Speaker 18: all that. But like if we if people actually was
Speaker 18: willing to sacrifice, we could have more land for farming.
Speaker 7: And I'm not.
Speaker 2: Talking like the fucking corporations.
Speaker 18: That you know, they the most fertile soil in the
Speaker 18: world is strictly just used for coffee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and in getting back to even this
Speaker 2: kind of vertical growing within warehouses and shit, imagine the
Speaker 2: amount of vegetation that you could create in an Amazon warehouse,
Speaker 2: Like how many people that would fill it? Like are
Speaker 2: you know, like allow them to eat or whatever.
Speaker 4: But it's like you mean like a rainforest inside of
Speaker 4: a warehouse.
Speaker 2: I mean what she was just talking about as far
Speaker 2: as the vertical grow rooms, right, I mean if you
Speaker 2: did that on a scale of Amazon warehouse, I could
Speaker 2: have made Dude, I.
Speaker 4: Bet you that is on the company.
Speaker 3: I thought you meant the fucking rainforest itself in the
Speaker 3: Amazon house.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I misunderstood.
Speaker 3: I mean an Amazon warehouse with the trucks and shit
Speaker 3: of a grow farm one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah like that, Like, dude, an Amazon warehouse
Speaker 2: would one hundred percent feed Prairieville, Like yeah, of that,
Speaker 2: like imagine, And so all you would have to do
Speaker 2: is just build like those big ass warehouses every fifteen
Speaker 2: miles or some shit, and you'd be said.
Speaker 4: Every city has a post office, every city has a
Speaker 4: grow house. I don't this could be a thing, and
Speaker 4: it could be.
Speaker 2: It could be something that is taken out of your
Speaker 2: taxes because I don't approve of ninety nine percent of
Speaker 2: the shit that's being taken from taxes in the first place.
Speaker 2: This could be something that is paid for by taxes
Speaker 2: and is free delivered to everybody's house every day.
Speaker 3: Bro, fucking take my money if this is actually where
Speaker 3: my tax dollars are going. Yo, Okay, let's talk percentages.
Speaker 3: I want to know and I want to know how
Speaker 3: much food I'll be receiving off of my investment in
Speaker 3: this government program. We can have this discussion one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Yo.
Speaker 18: You want that discussion to talk about like energy conservation
Speaker 18: and stuff like that, like put solar panels over fucking
Speaker 18: parking lots, and then we wouldn't even have to pay
Speaker 18: for the damn electric bill.
Speaker 3: I don't see why not. We have so many houses
Speaker 3: even within thisighborhood. Now I understand that not always is
Speaker 3: it a financially wise decision, but to your point, to
Speaker 3: lessen the issue with the power grid and how we
Speaker 3: have so many issues during storms and all these things,
Speaker 3: if every house had solar panels, regardless of if they
Speaker 3: wanted them or not, if the power company installed that
Speaker 3: on every house, that would lessen the burden in so
Speaker 3: many ways, which would lessen our need for fossil fuels. Now,
Speaker 3: I understand that the building of those solar panels isn't
Speaker 3: exactly the friendliest to the environment.
Speaker 4: I get that, but to your point, yes, there is
Speaker 4: a better way that we could be doing things, and
Speaker 4: we're just not.
Speaker 18: It's not even like that, Like you know, you can
Speaker 18: even get a fucking tax break just from doing the
Speaker 18: solar panels. Like it's insane the amount of tax breaks
Speaker 18: and stuff that you can get, and like even if
Speaker 18: you were to just it's not gonna hurt as much
Speaker 18: if you I feel like if me and my wife
Speaker 18: we put solar panels on the roof and we start
Speaker 18: turning the actual meter backwards, and it's like, yeah, the
Speaker 18: electric company will actually start to pay you a little
Speaker 18: bit because you're actually giving them some electricity. And like
Speaker 18: the electric company that I have to pass by on
Speaker 18: my way to work there, all of their buildings have
Speaker 18: solar panels on them and like they're fucking just stacked
Speaker 18: for electricity. And it's like, dude, if we could all
Speaker 18: just do this, we'd like do that plus like your
Speaker 18: own hydroponics and actually going back to just kind of
Speaker 18: almost essentially living on your own, Like dude, it we
Speaker 18: would be so much better off and we would not
Speaker 18: have to pay hardly anything in taxes.
Speaker 4: Well, but let me fuck y'all up real quick.
Speaker 3: Have y'all heard this theory that if you were to
Speaker 3: build your house your water system just your plumbing alone,
Speaker 3: not for not for like black water, okay, not the
Speaker 3: shit water, but like the stuff from your sink and
Speaker 3: the stuff through your regular pipes, if you were to
Speaker 3: set up a series of electrical turbines within the pipes
Speaker 3: of your house, just using your water as you normally would,
Speaker 3: that could go to power. They'll pump the well that's
Speaker 3: giving you water in the first place. So basically, your
Speaker 3: water produces the power that gives you water just by
Speaker 3: using it.
Speaker 4: Have y'all heard this theory I have?
Speaker 2: That is pretty damn interesting. But you know, the problem
Speaker 2: with solar panels has always been, you know, like the
Speaker 2: the minerals that you're excavating out of other land and shit.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's not the cleanest, but like, but to this point,
Speaker 3: there's better ways that we could be helping ourselves and
Speaker 3: the group as a whole, that we could be funding.
Speaker 4: Sure crow houses another version, then well, I.
Speaker 2: Think that there's a way to ultimately achieve like you know,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people have been talking about
Speaker 2: zero point energy here lately and in other ways of
Speaker 2: achieving free energy and just pulling it out of the sky.
Speaker 2: And you know, there there's ways of getting free energy.
Speaker 2: It's just that energy companies they don't like those ideas,
Speaker 2: you know, because they happen to take a fuck load
Speaker 2: of money off of us paying them every month to
Speaker 2: be able to power up these computers and our WiFi
Speaker 2: and our TVs and all that fun shit.
Speaker 18: Just as long as you're not doing the stupid wind
Speaker 18: turbines like those are awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I was shocked to see that through Pennsylvania when I
Speaker 4: passed through Brown m Dude.
Speaker 18: I drive up through Illinois, like from here, I'll, I'll
Speaker 18: just I'm in western Kentucky and uh, just straight north.
Speaker 18: It's a straight shot.
Speaker 7: From here to Chicago.
Speaker 18: All you gotta do is just go up and it's
Speaker 18: like all fucking windmills from here to Chicago. And it's like,
Speaker 18: oh my lord.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a good idea, it's just not it's
Speaker 3: never going to be executed.
Speaker 4: Well, there's no way of doing it.
Speaker 3: The only way I could maybe see is if it's
Speaker 3: like sales like take away the big metal things straight
Speaker 3: up windmillship from the Middle Ages. Like there's just there's kites,
Speaker 3: there's giant sheets on sticks out there that are turning
Speaker 3: the turbine. Me, that would be more of a net
Speaker 3: positive for the environment. But no, dude, all the metal
Speaker 3: in the sky is you're never gonna get enough energy
Speaker 3: out of that motor to compensate for the amount of
Speaker 3: energy it took to put that metal in the sky
Speaker 3: in the first place.
Speaker 18: So it wash, you're better doing hydro electric, uh, you know,
Speaker 18: like we got all the rivers and ship down here,
Speaker 18: like yeah, just I know you shouldn't dam up the river,
Speaker 18: but that would still be better than a wind turbine.
Speaker 18: I mean, we've got Kentucky dam which is, you know,
Speaker 18: a really good damn and it produces like all the electricity.
Speaker 4: In this whole area.
Speaker 18: That's where we get the TVA and all that shit from,
Speaker 18: and you know that that stuff. It's it's so much
Speaker 18: better than that. But I mean it's the whole point
Speaker 18: of like the wind like not the windmill, the the
Speaker 18: water wheel, ship and all that. Man, it's it's it's
Speaker 18: it's so much better than the wind turbine and you know, so,
Speaker 18: I mean, ultimately solar is going to be the way
Speaker 18: to go if we could ever like fully figure that
Speaker 18: shit out.
Speaker 4: We got to make it more efficient, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. We're getting there, but slowly, Zombie, go ahead.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna agree to disagree with which point solar is
Speaker 10: not the way to go. Okay, they're like kind of
Speaker 10: on track with the hydro electric There is a new
Speaker 10: type of hydroelectric system that they put in place several
Speaker 10: years ago that is actually the most beneficial to keeping
Speaker 10: the river being able to flow correctly not damaging any
Speaker 10: of the ecosystem in it and stuff. They only have one.
Speaker 10: It's because they don't want to mass produce it. Of
Speaker 10: going back to like the energy companies, My parents work
Speaker 10: for the energy company for forty five years each, and
Speaker 10: they know a lot about energy and in total, and
Speaker 10: it's actually the government renigged on several special things that
Speaker 10: happen with the energy companies around the country at different
Speaker 10: points through history, and it changed how energy was being
Speaker 10: made and how it's also how like nuclear waste is
Speaker 10: being stored and that were from the energy companies and
Speaker 10: like they ended up having to take on the burden
Speaker 10: of all us and like so there was we had
Speaker 10: steam plants in Oregon where we have like they they're
Speaker 10: hydroelectric and they're also steam from helping the potato farmers
Speaker 10: down the street. They've captured the steam and use that
Speaker 10: as energy, and that's a super clean way to get
Speaker 10: energy as well.
Speaker 16: Solar has some benefits to it.
Speaker 10: But overall, the arching themes same with wind turbines. They
Speaker 10: are inherently terrible for the globe and the climate. And
Speaker 10: then you have like all the farms where they just light,
Speaker 10: they just are left to be there and they will
Speaker 10: never decompose. You can't break them down. Nuclear is still
Speaker 10: the best way for energy to go, and hopefully fusion.
Speaker 10: That kid just made that fusion, tiny little fusion reaction react.
Speaker 4: I saw that.
Speaker 10: Oh yes, I'm following what's kind of going on with that.
Speaker 3: So I am excited to see where cold fusion takes us.
Speaker 3: I know people are super scared of nuclear for all
Speaker 3: the things in this I understand.
Speaker 10: It's it's far cleaner and far better, and there's so
Speaker 10: many protocols to it compared to everything else. You know,
Speaker 10: wind turbines they're absolutely atrocious. Solar planels. You know, they leak,
Speaker 10: if they even leak this shit like, it's terrible what
Speaker 10: they actually do hydroelectric. I doubt they're actually gonna push
Speaker 10: forward with it, even though there is quite a few
Speaker 10: benefits to it, as long as they are using that
Speaker 10: new system that's not destroying and eroding the rivers and stuff.
Speaker 10: But it's one of those things that people don't really
Speaker 10: want to read in on. They just read the basics
Speaker 10: of it and are just kind of like, oh, well,
Speaker 10: this is the best, so we'll see how the nuclear
Speaker 10: fusion situation goes.
Speaker 3: Though to your point, though, I agree, I see, uh,
Speaker 3: for instance, at my kids school, drop them off in
Speaker 3: the mornings, and I see the cafeteria as steam just
Speaker 3: pouring out of one of their exhausts, which they do. Okay,
Speaker 3: they have a boiler system, and I get that, but
Speaker 3: why don't they have a small turbine at the top
Speaker 3: of that steam stack that could be powering some portion
Speaker 3: of the kitchen to maybe aid in the school's energy
Speaker 3: bill or something like that. And when I worked in
Speaker 3: the plants, anytime there was a cogen unit, which is
Speaker 3: literally a boiler system that produces steam for the purpose
Speaker 3: of turning turbines for the purpose of making electricity and
Speaker 3: like the plant needed steam for X, Y and Z reason,
Speaker 3: but they also had turbans hooked to the bitch because
Speaker 3: why not. I see every single stack that blows out
Speaker 3: seam that doesn't have a turban. I see that as
Speaker 3: a wasted opportunity, and I don't understand.
Speaker 4: Why people don't do that. But yeah, no, what do
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 5: Samuel, Sorry, it's off topic, but have either one of
Speaker 5: you gentlemen, heard of the murder of Kendrick Johnson, a
Speaker 5: seventeen year old boy from Mounts County, Georgia. No, okay,
Speaker 5: so this happened when while I was in school, I
Speaker 5: came in for it was middle school. It was probably
Speaker 5: middle school, but a seventeen year old boy. They found
Speaker 5: him mowed up in a gym matt and they wrote
Speaker 5: as accidental, but he uh during the autopsy, his organs
Speaker 5: went missing and his body was stuffed with newspaper or
Speaker 5: allegedly and the shaft suite opened the case but tuck.
Speaker 5: But yeah, thirty eight people will without it as civil lawsuits.
Speaker 5: That judge said that there was a conspiracy and come up.
Speaker 5: But it is officially dubbed as an accidental.
Speaker 4: Death that was definitely definitely off topic. But okay, what
Speaker 4: what the fuck?
Speaker 6: Sorry, uh, it popped in my head. I'm sorry, No, you're.
Speaker 3: I mean, we were just kind of bullshitting about the
Speaker 3: the inefficiencies of the electric system as we see it.
Speaker 3: But like, I think we are kind of all agreeing
Speaker 3: that we can and should do things better as a whole.
Speaker 4: But like, I'm okay, now, let's let's talk about the
Speaker 4: missing organ stuffed with newspapers of a seventeen year old
Speaker 4: though that's that's kind of wild.
Speaker 2: I got it right here. It says, yes, Kendrick Johnson's
Speaker 2: body was stuffed with newspaper after he died in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: Says Johnson's family paid for an independent autopsy after a
Speaker 2: court ordered the exhumation of his body. The autopsy revealed
Speaker 2: the john Since body and skull had been stuffed with
Speaker 2: newspaper and that his internal organs were missing. The funeral
Speaker 2: home that embalmed and buried Johnson's body said that they
Speaker 2: filled the void left by the missing organs with newspaper,
Speaker 2: So the funeral home is saying that they did it.
Speaker 2: The funeral home said that this was standard practice and
Speaker 2: that they could have used cotton or sawdust. However, the
Speaker 2: Georgia Secretary of State's office found that the funeral home
Speaker 2: did not follow best practices, and so Johnson's family was
Speaker 2: also horrified to discover that their son's body had been
Speaker 2: tampered with. They filed a federal lawsuit against the Georgia
Speaker 2: Bureau of Investigation and the Lowns Loons County Lownes County
Speaker 2: Sheriff's office. They also called for the release of surveillance
Speaker 2: footage from the school gymnasium, and it says even as
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, people are still calling for the investigation
Speaker 2: into Johnson's death to be reopened.
Speaker 4: Holy the illegal organ harvesting happened.
Speaker 3: Now, whether this happened at the place of his death
Speaker 3: or at the funeral parlor, who can say, but yeah,
Speaker 3: that's one hundred percent what's happened here.
Speaker 6: There was a video of you see the kid walking.
Speaker 5: I say kid, But at the time I was fourteen,
Speaker 5: So everybody told him and was you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was seventeen whenever he died about him.
Speaker 5: But you see the other kid that walks with him,
Speaker 5: You see him in one shirt. He comes back and
Speaker 5: he's in a different shut. But do you see him
Speaker 5: carrying a sack. You see him carried the clothes and
Speaker 5: it looked and the clothes were bloody, and they don't
Speaker 5: know who he was.
Speaker 6: It seems to me that.
Speaker 5: Some shady shit happened, which it did, but there had
Speaker 5: to be something going on in that badger.
Speaker 4: What you got, bro?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 21: Now, I was saying that kid's dad was a retired
Speaker 21: FBI agent. Yeah his dad. Yeah, he's every eye. So
Speaker 21: the coverup going.
Speaker 2: On that is crazy. Yeed says that. Uh, but when
Speaker 2: doctor it says, when doctor Bill Anderson, the private pathologists
Speaker 2: who conducted the second autopsy, opened up the team's remains,
Speaker 2: the brain, heart, lungs, liver, and other viscera were missing.
Speaker 2: Every organ from the pelvis to the skull was gone.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't imagine that being standard practice.
Speaker 4: No, no, well the mortician, the mortuary didn't say that
Speaker 4: that was standard practice.
Speaker 3: They said stuffing him with newspaper was standard practice. As
Speaker 3: far as for him to have an open casket funeral
Speaker 3: kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if that's true or if they
Speaker 4: use styrofoam or what like. I know there's people that do.
Speaker 3: More mortuary work, true license morticians out there, So I
Speaker 3: don't know if newspaper is standard practice or not, but
Speaker 3: who knows. The mortuary could absolutely be the one involved
Speaker 3: with the illegal organ harvesting. Again, it may have been
Speaker 3: uh urgically removed at the point of his death and
Speaker 3: then they found the body in the mortuary just did
Speaker 3: what they could to.
Speaker 4: Try to make it presented.
Speaker 2: I don't oh check this out. So the funeral home
Speaker 2: would not comment, and this is a CNN article, but
Speaker 2: they wouldn't comment to CNN. But in a letter to
Speaker 2: Johnson's attorney, funeral home owner Antonio Harrington said his firm
Speaker 2: never received the team's organs. Harrington wrote that the organs
Speaker 2: end quotes were destroyed through natural process due to the
Speaker 2: position of Kendrick Johnson's body when he died and discarded
Speaker 2: by the prose prosector prosector. Yeah, discarded by the prosector
Speaker 2: before the body was sent back to Valdosta, a process
Speaker 2: a prosector dissects the body for pathological examination. So, but
Speaker 2: it does say that there are scenes that point to
Speaker 2: foul play. It says stuffing a body with old newsprint
Speaker 2: and department store circulars. It says like he was a
Speaker 2: garbage can. As Jaklin Johnson put it, isn't exactly standard
Speaker 2: practice and forensic pathology or the mortician's trade. Then there's
Speaker 2: the founder of a Missouri embalming school named Vernie Fountain
Speaker 2: called it non not consistent with the standards of care
Speaker 2: in the industry. And there was this other doctor Gregory,
Speaker 2: Gregory Schmunk, that's a fun last name. He says. He
Speaker 2: said that he's never heard of that practice, and he
Speaker 2: is the president of the National Association of Medical Examiners,
Speaker 2: so he's never heard of that either.
Speaker 3: So this may very well be some mortuary that was
Speaker 3: trying to save money and instead of doing the proper thing,
Speaker 3: just said fuck it.
Speaker 4: Stuff on newspaper.
Speaker 2: Well, it says that organs are typically placed in a
Speaker 2: plastic bag, which is then put back into the body
Speaker 2: cavity after an autopsy. While individual organs may be kept
Speaker 2: back for further testing, this would not amount to all
Speaker 2: of the organs in any circumstance that I can wow,
Speaker 2: so wow.
Speaker 5: Okay, But he was found in the high school gym
Speaker 5: in a rolled up in a wrestling mat. He's down
Speaker 5: and they said that he threw his shoes in the
Speaker 5: mat and he was going to retrieve them.
Speaker 4: Well he doesn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what that's the official story.
Speaker 5: And I remember as a kid and I was I
Speaker 5: got smacked up side the head by my grandmother for
Speaker 5: my lanes. But I fourteen fourteen. I said, they ain't
Speaker 5: no fucking way that happened. And I got bapsmacked.
Speaker 2: But okay, Well, it says that this guy Anderson, who
Speaker 2: was hired by the Johnson family for a second autopsy,
Speaker 2: found Kendrick Johnson had sustained a blow to the right
Speaker 2: side of his neck that was consistent with the inflicted
Speaker 2: injury challenge challenging the state's autopsies, the state autopsies finding
Speaker 2: of positional asphyxiation. He concluded that the team died as
Speaker 2: a result of unexplained, apparent non act accidental blunt force trauma.
Speaker 3: No, I mean to say that he was murdered. Yeah,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. The organ's missing, that's yeah, okay. And
Speaker 3: to say all of them, now that's crazy. To say
Speaker 3: some specific ones that would you know, be worth the
Speaker 3: most money, That makes sense to me. But all of
Speaker 3: the organs, hearts, lungs, and all of the guts, all
Speaker 3: of everything to the pelvis gone, just a hollow cavity.
Speaker 3: So okay, is it possible that after the you know,
Speaker 3: autopsy and all of that, someone like forgot to put
Speaker 3: the bag in and threw it away and that's what led.
Speaker 6: To all this? Possibly?
Speaker 4: Is it also possible that he was cut open and
Speaker 4: his organs were sold and this is what remained. Yeah,
Speaker 4: also possible.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm looking. There's actually a huge subreddit on this on
Speaker 2: this whole mystery, and I'm trying to see what people
Speaker 2: have found over the years. But mm hmm. It says
Speaker 2: every student in the gym when Kendrick was found was
Speaker 2: interviewed that day and everyone's story lined up. A video
Speaker 2: was taken of the scene. It says two pairs of
Speaker 2: shoes were found in the mat with Kendrick pair. One
Speaker 2: pair were shoes that he had been wearing. They were
Speaker 2: off of his feet, on top of his body, near
Speaker 2: his feet and legs. Another pair, the pair he was retrieving,
Speaker 2: were on the floor underneath his body, near his head.
Speaker 2: The only new blood found at the scene was inside
Speaker 2: the mat. No blood was found on the outside of
Speaker 2: the mat. No blood was found on the school book
Speaker 2: and yellow folder that Kendrick was carrying. No blood was
Speaker 2: found in the lower extremities or on the shoes that
Speaker 2: he was wearing. Says some old blood was found on
Speaker 2: a column near the mats, but it was determined not
Speaker 2: to be from Kendrick. Bloody tissues were found in the
Speaker 2: trash can of the gems of the Jim Girls bathroom.
Speaker 2: It says how this is in any way suspicious or
Speaker 2: unusual is beyond me. But the county tested it and
Speaker 2: it was found to be female l DNA. Okay, so yeah, shit,
Speaker 2: it's long, dude. Yeah, it's probably some tampon or something.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm saying, like the female high school girls bathroom
Speaker 4: had tissues with blood on them, I kind of would assume, So.
Speaker 2: Wow, this is uh, yeah, it's pretty wild. But it
Speaker 2: says but despite, despite, uh, despite what the Johnson's and
Speaker 2: their advocates want the world to believe, facts are facts,
Speaker 2: and those facts are that none of Kendrick's blood was
Speaker 2: found anywhere outside of the mat, neither autopsy, neither autopsy
Speaker 2: found any defensive wounds, and the two quote unquote suspects
Speaker 2: have rock solid alibis. As for what I think happened,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to repost what I wrote about this
Speaker 2: a year ago. It's this is somebody trying to fucking
Speaker 2: say that it's not a conspiracy. But he says, because
Speaker 2: he was five ten and the mats were six foot tall,
Speaker 2: it seems pretty logical that he would be able to
Speaker 2: reach in, grab his shoes, and wiggle out. Personally, what
Speaker 2: I think happened is that he held onto the side
Speaker 2: of the mat with his right hand and lowered himself
Speaker 2: down headfirst, intending to grab the shoe with his left hand.
Speaker 2: But when it came time for him to lift himself out,
Speaker 2: he realized that he didn't have enough room to bend
Speaker 2: his elbow. He panicked, He lost his grip on the
Speaker 2: side of the mat and slid all the way down,
Speaker 2: which constricted him, and in a further attempt to pull
Speaker 2: himself up while upside down, he kicked off the shoes
Speaker 2: he had on his feet. Okay, well, I feel like
Speaker 2: that we need to look way more into that in
Speaker 2: order to really understand the whole situation. Damn, Okay, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about.
Speaker 2: This wild shit.
Speaker 4: Sam.
Speaker 2: Did you want to add anything to that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just that this has been a set a
Speaker 5: fire on to me as a kid too. And this
Speaker 5: is about what really slowed where I didn't trust the police,
Speaker 5: which caused me to go down the rabbit hole that
Speaker 5: sent me to Waco and Ruby Widge and everything thing.
Speaker 5: But I knew that my beloved Georgia has always been
Speaker 5: the nicest state to certain people.
Speaker 6: And it breaks my heart.
Speaker 5: It just kind of I lost a lot of respect
Speaker 5: for my my state police that day when they said
Speaker 5: that here's.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal, though, Sam, I mean, I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, we all, we all we all like to
Speaker 2: look at each other, like Jacob, that's pure Louisiana through
Speaker 2: and through, right, Like I mean, I've lived in plenty
Speaker 2: of places. Maybe you could say I'm pure Pennsylvania through
Speaker 2: and through whatever, right, And you know you've lived in
Speaker 2: Georgia your whole life, You're through and through. But really,
Speaker 2: what we are as people and we we live inside
Speaker 2: of these invisible lines, and we call ourselves based upon what,
Speaker 2: you know, the tradition of that lot of land is
Speaker 2: known for, and we start we sort of start to
Speaker 2: like take on those identities and whatnot, right, But in
Speaker 2: in the end, we're just fucking people and and we're
Speaker 2: not all the same. So somebody who is from even
Speaker 2: if there's somebody that's from Louisiana that's going on a
Speaker 2: mass murder spree, that doesn't necessarily mean that people in
Speaker 2: Louisiana are mass murderers and that they are more like
Speaker 2: likely to go on mass murdering spreez. It just means
Speaker 2: that Derek Toddley, some people suck, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: that's just the way it is.
Speaker 6: It was a Derek Toddley, if you don't mind me asking.
Speaker 3: He was a serial killer, allegedly serial killer from Baton Rouge.
Speaker 3: She was tried, convicted, and he got the death pony
Speaker 3: for it. But I'm still convinced that he actually was
Speaker 3: not the guilty party.
Speaker 5: Was he?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: He was famously, if not the only, one of the
Speaker 4: only black serial killers in existence in America.
Speaker 5: Yes, there was a black serial killer I think in
Speaker 5: the late eighties only nineties. Uh. He was Alana, Atlanta.
Speaker 5: He targeted uh a little African American boys. He would
Speaker 5: strangle and tossed him over the bridge. Was he ever caught, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but he had one of the boys.
Speaker 6: It a cop caught him, but he taught he.
Speaker 5: Was he talked his way out of it, and he
Speaker 5: uh tossed and the cop drove off, and twenty minutes
Speaker 5: o the cop came back and Vila, the little boy's
Speaker 5: body was.
Speaker 6: Found and I can't remember his name, And.
Speaker 5: It was also he targeted his own community, but like
Speaker 5: he was also a pillow of the community too, So.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's how I said.
Speaker 3: I thought that he was the only but I'm sure
Speaker 3: that there were some other cases out there in existence,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that was the famous one.
Speaker 4: He was targeting like college girls at LSU that were
Speaker 4: like age twenty to twenty five. It was a it
Speaker 4: was a whole thing. But the sketch drawing that they
Speaker 4: had of the possible suspect was a super super super.
Speaker 3: White dude until all of a sudden caught the killer.
Speaker 3: His DNA matches everything. This is the guy, Dereck Todd
Speaker 3: Lee Boom no questions asked gott to be and it
Speaker 3: was like, wait, that's not even the right looking guy,
Speaker 3: the right tall height.
Speaker 4: Not y'all were that wrong. Y'all been looking for the
Speaker 4: wrong guy this whole time and just magically found Okay, whatever,
Speaker 4: But so yeah, but to your point, though, yes, Jonathan
Speaker 4: Derek ty Lee is not indicative of all of Louisiana
Speaker 4: by any means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just dudes and people and chicks and you know.
Speaker 3: I know dudes that worked with him, the plants, like
Speaker 3: worked with him, and they said that, like they never
Speaker 3: saw any of that from him, any kind of weirdness.
Speaker 4: He was just a normal dude.
Speaker 2: It's usually the quiet ones you gotta worry about, That's
Speaker 2: what they say.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was a quiet wonder if
Speaker 3: he was like a loudmouth or what, but like, I
Speaker 3: know that, Uh, the guys that worked with him all
Speaker 3: said he seemed like a pretty solid guy.
Speaker 4: Seemed like a good dude. He'd work, you know, he
Speaker 4: wasn't a slacker.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think that's gonna do it for this
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Speaker 2: think this is our first live on a Monday night
Speaker 2: before huh.
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