WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.360 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.280 KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:09.320 Oe Kelly, Jackie Ray. We're going beyond the box Score 4 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:11.800 and we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 5 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:12.800 Jackie Ray. 6 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.279 It's been one hell of a week and a half, 7 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:18.839 I would say, just going on in southern California. You 8 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.719 know the basics that at this point the Rams played 9 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.839 earlier tonight against the Minnesota Vikings. They didn't play at 10 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:29.679 SOFI Stadium, they played out in Arizona. And you had 11 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.520 the Lakers playing at home tonight in downtown Los Angeles, 12 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:35.679 and you had the Clippers playing down the street from 13 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:37.079 SOFI tonight. 14 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:38.759 The game's still going on right now. 15 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.520 I know they're different leagues, but why the different expectations 16 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:49.679 as far as appropriate, not appropriate, timely, untimely to move 17 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:52.920 these games. We know the NBA they postponed the previous 18 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:56.119 Laker and Clipper games, but now they're playing tonight. The 19 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.799 wins are gusting right now. Can hear it outside the studio? 20 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:01.159 The games are going going on in LA except for 21 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:02.320 the Rams there in Arizona. 22 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:03.759 I you know, I. 23 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.040 Can't explain this one because in my mind, the NFL 24 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.120 especially should have at least played in La versus moving 25 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:14.640 to the State Farm Arena. Considering all the homes that 26 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:16.319 now don't have fire insurance. 27 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:18.079 The optics of that just looks bad to me. 28 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:20.000 You would have been better playing off in so far 29 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:23.680 so when we have teams like you said, the Clippers 30 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.640 are playing, I don't understand the logic. I do get 31 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:29.680 because I was one of the first people that said, 32 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:34.040 it's just weird going about I went to karaoke last night. 33 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:36.640 It still felt very, very weird to be there having 34 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.519 a good time when earlier in the day I had 35 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:42.359 just been out to Alta Dina donating and seeing how 36 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:46.439 it's this weird dichotomy of feeling sad and then doing 37 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:48.680 something that feels great. So I'm not upset that they 38 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:50.599 moved forward, because at the end of the day, we 39 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.159 have to move forward, but it just seems like the 40 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:54.519 timing is a little bit. 41 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:55.439 Off to me. 42 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.760 In previous shows, I talked about the historical implications of 43 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.879 canceling or postponing games, how the nation by and large 44 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:09.199 has hued more closely to playing the games as a 45 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:13.680 way of ensuring emotional continuity. I talked about how the 46 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:17.280 World Series was not canceled. During World War Two. I 47 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:20.039 talked about how rare it was to cancel games except 48 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:24.000 for like the eighty nine earthquake in San Francisco or 49 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:28.639 nine to eleven. Had to be very very extreme reasons 50 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.759 to cancel or postponed games. Not that this is not 51 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:35.080 along those levels. But going back to what I said before, 52 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:40.120 it seems like there's an inconsistency and the approach where 53 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:43.120 inside the same city, on the same street, you have 54 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.680 a game which is going on, and if you don't know, 55 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:49.439 into a dome, it's literally one block away on the 56 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.800 same street as Sofi Stadium. And having these games on 57 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:57.360 where you put off in any way that there are 58 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:00.240 games going on. Going back to your point of kind, 59 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.159 I'm moving on with life and celebrating and having fun 60 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:05.879 and you know, goat Lakers. Oh, by the way, the 61 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:07.280 city's burning down right. 62 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.199 It's a tough one because if you're here, if you're 63 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.400 listening from abroad, it's not something that you feel like 64 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:16.400 it impacts the I live in Long Beach, and now 65 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.159 in Long Beach, the air quality was bad. Long Beach 66 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:22.120 is thirty miles away from where the fire is, so 67 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:25.360 it's not like it's just exclusive to the Palisades or 68 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:29.680 Pasadena or Allta Dina. It's literally affecting a large range 69 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:32.479 of people and places. People with asthma in Long Beach 70 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:34.840 are having a hard time, so it really doesn't matter 71 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.319 that you're so far away. On the contrast, what we've 72 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:38.960 seen is and I think this is why people are 73 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.680 having a hard time with the games just resuming as normal. 74 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.759 So cow has had an amazing outreach of people. People 75 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.840 have been boots on the ground, immediately taking off work 76 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.159 to go and help people, try to help people find 77 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:55.680 pets or maybe even albums that have priceless memorabili in them. 78 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:58.680 So people have really stepped up to help their fellow neighbor. 79 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.719 So it again, I'm not upset that it's moving forward, 80 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:05.719 but I understand when you're talking about people who have 81 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:08.680 lost everything and don't have the means to replace it. 82 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.840 Sometimes I think internally we would want those who have 83 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.279 more to step up more. So maybe that's what we're 84 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:18.839 seeing where people are saying it's just a game. You 85 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.519 guys can take this off and even donate time and 86 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.319 money and resources to help people who have lost everything. 87 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:26.000 So I understand both sides of it. 88 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:27.720 I don't know if there's an answer, but there is 89 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:30.639 an inconsistency, and I would love the teams to just 90 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.920 sit down and say going forward, because as long as 91 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:36.879 humans exist, there's going to be tragedies that impact us. 92 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.600 Going forward, this is how we are going to move 93 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.879 when it comes to canceling games or not canceling games, 94 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.519 because if there's a policy set, then there's nothing. 95 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:45.959 To argue about. 96 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:49.800 Let's drill down on that one because I know, watching 97 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.240 the Lakers, or watching the Clippers, or watching the NFL 98 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:57.560 football playoff games this weekend, yes, there's the obligatory thoughts 99 00:04:57.560 --> 00:04:58.120 and prayers. 100 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:00.399 Our hearts are with the people who are so in 101 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:01.319 Los Angeles. 102 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:04.560 Please go to NFL dot com, forward slash donat or something. 103 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:08.399 They will do the minimum. But what should be the 104 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:12.560 expectation as far as the involvement of these leagues. That's 105 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:16.160 part one, and also of the players. It's one thing 106 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.240 to say, you know, we shouldn't play the game. It's 107 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.879 another thing to say, Hey, the Lakers, you as an 108 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:22.879 organization need to be doing more. 109 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:24.439 You Clippers need to be doing more. 110 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.120 You Chargers and Rams need to be doing more as 111 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:32.879 an organization. And also my word pressure on players to 112 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:34.000 get involved as well. 113 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:35.800 What would you say to that? 114 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:38.600 Well, I always say players are people. 115 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.399 JJ Reddick lost his home, the head coach of the 116 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.560 LA Lakers, he lost his home in the Palisades fire, 117 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:46.680 and now he has to go out and coach a game. 118 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.759 And I don't know if you've ever had that kind 119 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.480 of loss, It is difficult to just go back out there. 120 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:52.680 Athletes do it all the time. 121 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:54.839 We saw Isaiah Thomas do it when he lost I 122 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.680 believe was a sister or whatnot. 123 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.800 So we've seen players do this over and over again. 124 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:04.000 But it's difficult, and so I think instead of saying yes, 125 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:05.959 there needs to be a policy in play as far 126 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.240 as what we're going to do as an organization, but 127 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:11.680 when you're talking about people, I do think backing away 128 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.879 and letting people is in players in this case. But 129 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:18.600 people who are impacted by this have the space to 130 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:20.920 be impacted by this for more than just a day 131 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:23.120 or two. Kawhi Leonard had to take a step away 132 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.800 from the Clippers because his family had to evacuate. So 133 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.240 we're not talking about people who aren't impacted and just 134 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.800 these superstars that are making this kind of money, they 135 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.439 are also impacted. They want to help and they need 136 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.560 the space to do it. So maybe it's a case 137 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:39.480 by case situation. I do understand the knee jerk reaction 138 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:41.680 of thinking that people that have more should do more. 139 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:44.959 There's that, but I also think that people who are 140 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.800 impacted should have the space to be impacted. 141 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.399 I wonder, and it's not for me to try to 142 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.920 get in the head of JJ Reddick you mentioned right 143 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.920 and coach the Los Angeles Lakers. Lakers are finishing up 144 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.920 their game right now against the San Antonio Spurs at 145 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.759 Crypto dot Com Arena, but I know that JJ Reddick's 146 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:09.519 head cannot be fully invested in the Lakers or that game. 147 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:14.000 It just can't be because we are to your point humans. 148 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.600 I wonder, and I'm not blaming Genie Buss, but I 149 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:21.120 would ask her the question. Was there any conversation where 150 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:26.600 you said, JJ, I appreciate you wanting to coach, but 151 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:28.759 right now I need you to take care of your 152 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.959 business so you are even better coach on the other 153 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:34.720 side of this tragedy, because I remember when Kareem Abdul 154 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:37.680 Jabbar's house burned down, he wasn't thinking about basketball. 155 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:41.639 Nope, it's difficult, like when you think, sometimes people say, oh, 156 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.279 I just want to get back to work, no matter 157 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:44.680 what it is, I want to get back to work 158 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.319 to keep my mind off of it. When I lost 159 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.360 my dad, that was what I did. I mourned for 160 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:50.720 three months and I was like, I want to get 161 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:52.839 back to work. I thought three months was enough time. 162 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.439 And then I got back to work and every fifteen 163 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:57.639 minutes I have to run to the bathroom because I'm crying. 164 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:59.720 You know, so you don't really know how you're going 165 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.639 to mentally move. But losing everything and just seeing him 166 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:06.519 talk about it in a practice and talking about what 167 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.600 it was, you could see that kind of in play. 168 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:11.800 He was solid for a minute and then he wasn't. 169 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:15.879 And that's what human emotions do. So again, I think 170 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:19.480 humans need space to be humans and just deal with 171 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:20.600 these types of things. 172 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:22.439 We'll have more on this in just a moment. 173 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.639 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 174 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.600 KFI AM six forty. 175 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.799 KFI Mo Kelly and Jackie Ray. We're continuing to go 176 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:35.080 Beyond the box Score and we're live everywhere on the 177 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:40.639 iHeartRadio app, and we're also continuing our conversation about athletes, sports, 178 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.440 and also tragedy. There are these expectations that we have 179 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:49.720 of athletes as people, athletes as performers, and athletes as 180 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:55.399 representatives of communities. Invariably, there will come a point in time. 181 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:57.600 And this is not some grand prediction. It's just that 182 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.960 I've lived on this earth long enough to have seen 183 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.039 and I know it's coming. There will be some grand 184 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:08.679 pronouncement by an athlete about these fires, about the response 185 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:10.759 to the fires. And I'm not trying to predicate it's 186 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:12.440 going to be this or that. I just know it's coming. 187 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.440 Someone's going to have a microphone in front of their face. 188 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.399 They're gonna be asked a question, and they're gonna be 189 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:22.159 asked and they're going to answer as honestly as possible. 190 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.279 How much grace do you give athletes for something like this? 191 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.480 And I know this is hypothetical, but you know they're 192 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.399 going to say something which is gonna piss half the 193 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:31.000 people off. 194 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:35.480 That's a great question, because as a journalist who's been 195 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:38.840 in that situation, I would give a tremendous amount of 196 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:42.639 grace in this specific instance because of the tragedy, and 197 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.919 I would probably ask if, especially if it if it 198 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.600 was a response that I knew was inflammatory, I would 199 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.279 definitely give a follow up question that would give them 200 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:51.639 a chance to maybe clarify that. 201 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.279 Say that again, that is so key because a lot 202 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.279 of times you only hear the question, which could lead 203 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.240 the athlete to it in flatt platy air quotes response, 204 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.440 but there's no follow up to give the athlete room 205 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:07.759 to further elaborate, right. 206 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.759 And I think that's important as a journalist to do 207 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:13.799 that because again, not just a journalist, I'm also a 208 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:16.960 human and I've been in situations. I'm pretty calculated with 209 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:19.720 my words, so I'm not saying it's never happened to me. 210 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:23.360 But when your emotions are at the forefront of your mind, 211 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:25.399 I don't care how calculated you are, You're going to 212 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:29.639 speak from an emotional place. So that journalistic integrity says, 213 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:31.120 ask that follow up question. 214 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:31.399 Now. 215 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.559 If they double down on that, now you can run 216 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:35.960 with it. But I do think we should allow people 217 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.840 enough grace to speak in their emotion and then clarify 218 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.200 their emotion, especially when they're dealing with tragedy. 219 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:44.039 But that's not the society we live in. 220 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.360 The society even if they do, even if someone does 221 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:49.320 follow up with a great question, and they clarify they're 222 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.879 gonna lead with the inflammatory comment because that's going to 223 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.399 get more clicks and more views. So but I think 224 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.639 that that's what in my journalism, that's what I lead 225 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.720 with the humanity of the player, the humanity of everyone. 226 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:01.759 So I think that's what we need to lean into, 227 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.399 especially in times of tragedy. 228 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:05.639 All right, let's keep going down this road. We talk 229 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:08.320 about the responsibility of players. We talked about the responsibility 230 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:12.679 of organizations and employees of an organization, So let's talk 231 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:17.639 more about the responsibility of journalists, specifically sports journalists. What 232 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:21.720 other recommendations might you have other than asking that follow 233 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.799 up question? Don't just ask JJ Reddick about what he 234 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.639 feels about again, hypothetically what he feels about the response 235 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.759 to the fires. If you don't have an adequate follow up, 236 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.759 But what are the recommendations would you have? 237 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:37.000 I would recommend you go to an area that has 238 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.919 been damaged by the fire. If you're following me on 239 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.320 Instagram at Jackie Ray TV. I went out and I 240 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.600 saw that, and I'm telling you, the devastation that you 241 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:49.039 see in real life is nothing like the devastation you 242 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:51.559 see on television, it just hits different. 243 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:53.399 The smell and the air is different. 244 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.159 As you're stepping on the ground and you're stepping over 245 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:59.559 glass that has exploded from a car, or you'll see 246 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.600 a baby crib that you can just make it out 247 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.320 because of the little bars, but it's burned to the ground. 248 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.440 You can literally see humanity or someone's life burned to 249 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:12.360 the ground. So it gives you a frame of reference 250 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:15.000 that will allow you to have grace because now you 251 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:16.639 can picture yourself in that situation. 252 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.120 When you're just talking about what you see on TV, it. 253 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.120 Does look like a lot of armor againon movies that 254 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:24.200 I see, so we can easily just say that's happened 255 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.879 over there. But when you put yourself in that situation 256 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.720 as a journalist, it gives you a frame of reference 257 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:32.720 to tap into to help you not only understand where 258 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:35.480 that athlete is coming from, but to feel their emotion 259 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:37.600 and then thereby give them more grace, which I think 260 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:40.039 we should do that across the board sometimes, I think, 261 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:43.759 especially Americans, we have these opinions about people and we've 262 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:46.320 never been in their shoes. So if you put yourself 263 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:49.120 in somebody's shoes, it enables you to have a little 264 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:49.720 bit more grace. 265 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.879 Boy, you are preaching tonight to bring up grace and 266 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.360 then to say imagine yourself in that person's shoes. 267 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.080 It seems a very simple formulation. 268 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:02.399 But I guess it's kind of complex because people, for 269 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:04.279 the most part, are not willing to do that. We 270 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:09.320 all have these opinions and recommendations from literally thousands of 271 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:15.799 miles away, but aren't emotionally impacted, aren't physically impacted, aren't 272 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:19.120 in any way connected to what actually is going on here. 273 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.919 I've heard all sorts of opinions about California and what 274 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:25.000 the HeLa fire departments supposed to do from like Australia. 275 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:27.799 Are Australia, Yeah, I know, you know something about fires, 276 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:29.679 but you don't know anything about la what's going on. 277 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:31.879 You don't know anything about Santa Ana wins. And then 278 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:35.399 also the people who want to politicize this for their 279 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.360 own purposes, their own personal political purposes and Grant stunding. 280 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:42.879 There will be the investigation, you know, there will be 281 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:45.600 a post mortem, as I said, and we'll find out 282 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:50.399 who was wrong and why to what degree, what facilities 283 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:54.200 and structures and parameters whatever failed, and the people who 284 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.559 didn't meet the bark, but right now, it should be 285 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:57.039 about the. 286 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:01.559 People, because the people are who's suffering. And if you 287 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.279 can't see it in your heart to I saw a 288 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.360 woman who lives in the Palisades, and that's the thing. 289 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.200 The Palisades has been the point of contention for a 290 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.720 lot of people. If you guys don't live in California, 291 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:13.559 let me just put it out here right now. Everybody 292 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.360 in California is not rich. Everybody in California does not 293 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.080 have the means to build a new house. I don't 294 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.879 care if they live in Beverly Hills or the Pacific Palisades. 295 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:22.519 Whatever you have. 296 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:24.960 In your head about the money out here, just throw 297 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:27.399 it in the trash because it's not real. 298 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.080 Life, and it sure doesn't cover everything like that. That's 299 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:31.360 a whole different conversation. 300 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.600 Right So, I saw a woman who lived in the 301 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:38.879 Pacific Palisades, which is an affluent area, but she lives 302 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:42.639 completely off the land. And again the insurance, the fire 303 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:46.200 insurance specifically for that area was canceled, and this woman's 304 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:47.639 heart was overjoyed. 305 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:51.159 She was crying because she knew her house was burned down. 306 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:54.279 She didn't have the means to replace it because again 307 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:57.080 her whole life is. She lives off the land. But 308 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.679 then her sheep ran up to her and she found 309 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.879 out her her sheep were alive. And the joy that 310 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.679 that woman had, you would have thought that someone had 311 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.480 given her a million dollars. So again, you don't know 312 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.320 what people are going through. But in that moment, it 313 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:15.759 wasn't about the materialistic things. It was about an animal, 314 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.200 a group of animals that brought her joy and she 315 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:21.559 knew she hadn't lost everything. Just open your hearts and 316 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.240 your minds a little bit to just that it's not 317 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.000 about the house. It's about what the house represents, the 318 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.799 life that people built, how they chose to raise their family, 319 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:36.480 their animals, things. This is a whole person's culture, if 320 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.279 you will, in one space and it's gone now, So 321 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:40.960 have a little empathy. 322 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.720 Your word is the last word and the best word. 323 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:44.879 I'm o Kelly. 324 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:47.559 She's Jackie Ray KFI AM six forty were live everywhere 325 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.120 in the iHeartRadio app. 326 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:52.679 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 327 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:54.480 KFI AM six forty. 328 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:55.799 From We've been giving you a lot of information on 329 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:58.360 the course of the evening. Be sure if there's something 330 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:01.200 that you missed or there's something that you just want 331 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.559 to hear again, you can always go to our podcast, 332 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.960 which is available on the iHeartRadio app or any podcast 333 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.200 provider that you might happen to listen to the show. 334 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.960 I recommend the iHeartRadio app because that's the only place 335 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:17.679 where you can get this show live and hear it 336 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:20.559 as it happens. But Twala does a wonderful job at 337 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:23.120 putting this podcast together so you can have all the 338 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:27.879 relevant information, especially in a time like now. Earlier in 339 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:31.039 the show, we were talking about the fires from a 340 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:34.799 law enforcement perspective. We listen back to the remarks of 341 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:39.240 La County DA Nathan Hawkman, who basically was letting everyone 342 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:44.000 know he's following through on his promises to prosecute crimes 343 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:46.360 in a way that we haven't seen for a few 344 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:50.240 years since George Cascone was in that seat. We also 345 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:53.840 heard from Sheriff Robert Luna talking about respecting the curfew 346 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.480 and how you'll be arrested if you're in the wrong 347 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.759 place at the wrong time, stay out of the evacuated 348 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.120 zone owns, and also we heard from LAPD Assistant Chief 349 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:07.279 Dominic Troy, who was detailing people are not being arrested 350 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:10.680 for just crimes related to the fire. Talked about how 351 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.319 an individual was arrested regarding the use of illegal use 352 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.480 of a drone. Also people who were doing things completely 353 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:20.839 not connected to the events, but just happened to be 354 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:27.240 in an area committee of crime and they were subsequently arrested. Now, 355 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.640 I want to talk about it from the fire first 356 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:34.440 responders perspective, from what we heard earlier today. First up 357 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.440 is LAPD Chief Crowley from this morning. 358 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:42.839 But to start off with just a moment to share 359 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.640 with everybody out there that's been impacted by these wildland fires, 360 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:51.680 that the entire LAFD family sworn civilian, our city family, 361 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:59.000 mayor Bass City leadership, everybody, Our thoughts and hearts and 362 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:01.480 prayers go out to you as we continue to push 363 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:04.920 forward and mitigate this emergency. We understand the impacts and 364 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.400 we're working and will continue to work very, very very 365 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.839 hard for everyone. Another point I want to make is 366 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:17.559 that also we are so very grateful for the firefighters 367 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:21.799 and the first responders that have already arrived and continue 368 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:26.400 to arrive in the southern California region. We absolutely know 369 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:29.039 that we cannot do this on our own, and we 370 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:34.640 are tremendously appreciative of all of your continued support as 371 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:38.279 the increasing wind event is upon us as we speak. 372 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:43.079 The Los Angeles City Fire Department has maximized our resource 373 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:49.319 capabilities and response capabilities. All available LAFD resources. 374 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:49.680 Have been staffed. 375 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:55.039 I have strategically preposition engine strike teams and task forces 376 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.759 which are dedicated to rapid response for any new fire 377 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:03.400 that breaks out in the city. In addition, I've directed 378 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:08.000 the Fire Prevention Bureau to augment wildfire patrols in high 379 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:14.119 hazard areas the Palisades fire. Your LFD remains committed to 380 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.640 this fire and we have significant number of engines that 381 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:21.599 have been dedicated to this fire. The crews that are involved, 382 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:24.160 we have crews from up and down the state outside 383 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:28.240 of the state, have made excellent, excellent work overnight mopping 384 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:32.200 up flare ups and hotspots. Their primary focus last night 385 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:35.279 was on the Maneville Canyon area, and this fire is 386 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:38.599 now at twenty three thousand, seven hundred and thirteen acres 387 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:43.200 with fourteen percent containment. With five thousand, one hundred and 388 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:48.359 twenty three personnel assigned to the Palisades incident, firefighters will 389 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.000 continue to work diligently throughout the day to increase containment 390 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.839 and prevent further fire spread. Again, I want to focus 391 00:19:56.279 --> 00:20:00.319 our my comments on the amount of resources that are 392 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.319 here in the Palisades, from the first responders all the 393 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.759 way up to our incident command teams. Again, we're going 394 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.319 to keep working really, really hard for you. Just a 395 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:12.079 brief comment on the Hearst fire. It's been held to 396 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:18.079 seven and ninety nine acres with ninety five percent containment. Again, 397 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.319 thank you to the community members that are out there 398 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:22.400 for remaining vigilant. 399 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:24.279 We are not in the clear. 400 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:25.960 I want to make sure of that we are not 401 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:28.640