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<v Speaker 1>It's a nicety. Dan Ray Undelling Mazy Boston's News.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio, Welcome back everyone. This is Dan Ray and Boston

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<v Speaker 2>along with you. I have listened here on CBS News.

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<v Speaker 2>I also watched it on a television set, and just

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<v Speaker 2>as Larry Sabato talked about the nineteen sixty debate between

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy and Nixon, Larry Sabato from the University of Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>said that that debate was won by Kennedy on how

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<v Speaker 2>he looked. Uh, that is what I thought tonight. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get your response number six, one, seven, two,

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<v Speaker 2>four to ten thirty, triple eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that the winners tonight were the candidates. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that the candidates had better answers than the moderators

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<v Speaker 2>had questions. I thought that there were a number of

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<v Speaker 2>subjects which were not touched. For example, there was no conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>not a word about Ukraine. There was not a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about Russia and whether or not it's an expansionist country

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. There was no or little comment about

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<v Speaker 2>crime in US cities. If I'm someone who lives in

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<v Speaker 2>a US city, I don't think there was any question

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<v Speaker 2>that really touched on crime. There was a question on

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<v Speaker 2>gun control, but not on crime. There was no question

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<v Speaker 2>on the expansion of China, China's efforts to expand and

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<v Speaker 2>extend its influence throughout Asia. There was no question about

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<v Speaker 2>the long shoreman strike and the supply chain, the impact

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<v Speaker 2>it might have on the supply chain. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>question about the anti semitism, not only on college campuses

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<v Speaker 2>but across this country. There was no question about college loans.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no question about energy in the future of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>There was question about climate change, but there was no

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<v Speaker 2>question about something even as simple as airline delays. Think

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<v Speaker 2>about last winter, the amount of airline delays that people

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with in this country. The questions, Well, let me

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<v Speaker 2>give you my verdict on the debate, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>interested to see what you say. I think that JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance was the winner of this debate tonight. As a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, I thought that both Vance not only

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<v Speaker 2>did much better. The question I would have is why

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<v Speaker 2>is he not at the top of the Republican ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be my question, And I'll tell you why

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<v Speaker 2>I think Vance won the debate tonight. I think Vance

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<v Speaker 2>won the debate tonight in large part because of how

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<v Speaker 2>controlled he was. His answers were precise, much more precise

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<v Speaker 2>than Governor wallts Waltz. I thought did very well. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that if I had to call a winner,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to call it J. D. Vince Now Vance

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<v Speaker 2>had more on the line tonight. According to an NBC

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<v Speaker 2>recent NBC Heart Research and Associate's Public Opinion Strategies poll,

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<v Speaker 2>Vance was hardly known by the American people. Has a

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<v Speaker 2>positive rating in September before this debate of only thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent. He had a negative rating. And again, the

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<v Speaker 2>way we group this, it's either the people have given

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<v Speaker 2>five choices, as we talked about this last night, very positive,

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat positive, neutral, somewhat negative, very negative. So Vance is

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<v Speaker 2>positive combined very positive and somewhat positive with thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>was thirty two. His somewhat negative and very negative combined

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<v Speaker 2>is forty five, so he was he's in effect at

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<v Speaker 2>minus thirteen if you want to look at it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Walls before tonight very positive or somewhat positive forty

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<v Speaker 2>and somewhat negative and very negative three. So Tim Walls

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<v Speaker 2>was a plus seven. I thought that that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that the this is why I think the debate is

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<v Speaker 2>different by the result is different. Both candidates were on

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<v Speaker 2>camera during the well virtually the entirety of the debate,

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<v Speaker 2>except for when the moderators were posing their questions, so

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<v Speaker 2>we can get to some of those as well. Vance

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<v Speaker 2>looked controlled, responsive, engaged, and not often surprised. Walls looked

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes frazzled. He sometimes had the look of your crazy

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<v Speaker 2>uncle at Thanksgiving. A couple of times on a side

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<v Speaker 2>shot almost looked like Don Rickles. The appearance of these

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<v Speaker 2>two men tonight, of course, there is a generational difference.

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<v Speaker 2>One is sixty and one is just turned forty, and

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<v Speaker 2>that played the Vance's at Vance's advantage. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>commend both of them for the way that they handled themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>and I also want to commend both of them for

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<v Speaker 2>shaking hands at the end, and their wives came up

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<v Speaker 2>and they exchanged pleasantries, and then they went and they

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<v Speaker 2>talked with the moderators. The moderators tried, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>to be as fair as they could. But the only time,

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<v Speaker 2>the only time that one of the candidates was really

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<v Speaker 2>stopped would be when Viance was being stopped by Margaret Brennan.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that she showed she didn't give Vance

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to She's talked over him, which was unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 2>The only person who appeared rude, in my opinion, during

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<v Speaker 2>the debate tonight was Margaret Brennan. So I've just got

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<v Speaker 2>the one minute mark from now less than a minute

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<v Speaker 2>from Rob. So now you know what, I think we

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about the issues that were discussed, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a very high level debate. I got to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, I think either of them could be

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<v Speaker 2>a presidential candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty. Six one seven, nine, three,

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<v Speaker 2>one ten thirty. Those are the phone numbers. Let's light

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<v Speaker 2>him up. The six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>They are already packed. Six one, seven, nine three, one

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Those lines are available. Let's light him up.

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<v Speaker 2>As I looked at the biographies of Tim Walls and JD. Vance, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Walls was born in nineteen sixty four, so he

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<v Speaker 2>has just turned sixty.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>JD. Vance is born in nineteen eighty four. Uh in August,

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<v Speaker 2>so he has just turned forty. Tim Walls in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen nineties. I'm trying to figure this out here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he would have been a school teacher, an elementary school teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>UH in the nineteen nineties. And I think he said

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<v Speaker 2>he taught in the fourth grade. He could have been

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<v Speaker 2>teaching in the fourth grade. What defense would have been

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth grade. Obviously he was teaching in I

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<v Speaker 2>guess either Nebraska or Minnesota, and Vance would have been

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<v Speaker 2>going to school in Ohio or Kentucky. But it just

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years makes quite a difference. So when I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the fourth grade, probably when you're ten, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tim Walls could have been a fourth grade teacher

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<v Speaker 2>when jad Vance was ten and Tim Walls then would

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<v Speaker 2>have been about thirty. Seems like a big difference then. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to play with numbers. The subjects that were touched.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he started with Israel, which is fine. They

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Hurricane Helene, which got the climate change. Immigration

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<v Speaker 2>was touched. They talked about various economic plans, of leadership qualities, abortion,

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<v Speaker 2>which Walsh had much the best of that argument, gun control,

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<v Speaker 2>housing in rent, the childcare crisis, and the state of democracy. UH,

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<v Speaker 2>subjects that I think most of us are very familiar with.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I indicated, it was interesting the number of

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<v Speaker 2>subjects that were not discussed, and including big subjects like Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought that would have should have been discussed,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and uh, there were there were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of subjects China should have been discussed. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>the phone. It's going to start off with Matt down

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida. Let me see what what Matt thinks about

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<v Speaker 2>tonight's debate. Now, what'd you think?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that was the best debate since Romney and

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<v Speaker 6>Obama just too you know, intelligent people with a handle

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<v Speaker 6>on reality. And they were both really amicable towards each other,

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<v Speaker 6>if that's the right word, and they were just very

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's that's America right there. That being said,

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<v Speaker 6>I think jd. Vance whipped his button like all over

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<v Speaker 6>the floor. Like it's not even close. But I thought

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<v Speaker 6>Waltz overperformed from his from what people thought he was

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<v Speaker 6>gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>Wat he handled himself fine. I certainly don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a knockout. But I think if I was scoring

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<v Speaker 2>it as a judge, I would have to give it

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<v Speaker 2>very clearly to Vance. And I don't think that the

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<v Speaker 2>the head on camera shots of each Uh when when

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<v Speaker 2>Vance was speaking, you had Waltz looking over, sometimes seemingly confused.

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<v Speaker 2>When Waltz was speaking, Vance looked quite at ease. I

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<v Speaker 2>would you agree with that or no?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, totally.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean obviously that's going to have an effect on voters,

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<v Speaker 6>which it shouldn't, but I mean, yeah, I mean totally.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that was I thought that certain points Walls

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<v Speaker 6>looked pretty uh like stunned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I felt that they split screen.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you said he looked like Don Rickles, I

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<v Speaker 5>just burst out laughing. It's hilarious. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>it's hilarious. It's just so funny. Look both of them.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just a real good debate. I mean, none

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<v Speaker 5>of them were outrageous on anything either one of them said.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think Vance really did a great job kind of,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, coming towards the middle, saying, listen, US Republicans

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<v Speaker 5>are really off base on a lot of these things,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know, this is how, this is how, this is.

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<v Speaker 6>How we're going to kind of get to it, and

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<v Speaker 6>this side they've just been awful at trying to on

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<v Speaker 6>its effect on their effectiveness when they need to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Vance's weakest point was when I think walt

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<v Speaker 2>asked him, you know who won the election in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>And I actually missed that point part.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that was the last question.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they can't get over that.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>They just they can't get over that.

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<v Speaker 7>They just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I think that that there are answers

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<v Speaker 2>that the advance could have appeared better. He could have said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>there are some Republicans who dealt the result of the election,

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<v Speaker 2>but the election is done. Joe Biden was took the

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<v Speaker 2>oath of office. I mean, there's a there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ways to answer that, but it almost as if

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<v Speaker 2>he was in fear of contradicting his running mate President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's all right.

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<v Speaker 5>And then just the last point i'd say is uh

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<v Speaker 5>actually but uh second to last point, I'd make it

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<v Speaker 5>just wow, pretty pathetic that Biden couldn't call on net Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a whole other topic, but that's uh, yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 5>hit we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit that tomorrow night. I was not aware that that

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<v Speaker 2>Biden not called today.

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<v Speaker 6>He never called him, He never went onto a video

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<v Speaker 6>chat or anything. He just was kind of like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that happened today, Like I mean, it's just a complete disgrace.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's that's that's the penultimate point, what's your all?

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<v Speaker 6>A good point, and the ultimate point was, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>this media, they just can't handle themselves. They kind of

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<v Speaker 6>interrupt the guy and then I mean, it's just so

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<v Speaker 6>transparent what they're doing. I mean, I mean, it's to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Brent Brennan played the role of David Muir in.

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<v Speaker 5>My opinion, right Oh, it's it's a disgrace and everyone

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<v Speaker 5>sees it and it only helps Trump in advance, honestly.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean there's a that's.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, you know, like uh uh home home radio there.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like it's just a disgrace. It's just a disgrace.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's the things.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, well they say the subjects that weren't touched were

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 6>Some state radio is what I meant to say, or

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<v Speaker 6>like state television, like state run television.

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<v Speaker 5>Right there, that's like a distress.

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<v Speaker 8>I had a couple of issues.

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<v Speaker 8>General Mark Milly, and I don't see how we can

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<v Speaker 8>three days before January sixth asked General Mark Milly to

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<v Speaker 8>make the event safe. Now that came out about a

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<v Speaker 2>I read those transcripts and I agree with you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the Republicans need to circulate that. But

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty election. Joe Biden was inaugurated president on January twentieth,

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<v Speaker 2>the January sixth committee.

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<v Speaker 8>with right now, and we have a current Secretary of

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<v Speaker 8>operators to write a letter that definitely altered the perception

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<v Speaker 8>of the voting public, and we are paying the consequences

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<v Speaker 8>of that because we have a Secretary of State, Anthony Blencoln,

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<v Speaker 8>who is directly benefited and was from that. But was

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well again that gets into look, well, you're.

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<v Speaker 8>Not supposed to use the CIA in a domestic Well,

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<v Speaker 2>And there were others who were used with that that

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<v Speaker 8>Not be involved in our domestic election period.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's any question about that, Sandra. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you were Were you pleased with Vance's performance tonight

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<v Speaker 8>I thought every I thought both of them did sign,

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<v Speaker 8>and that they brought up interesting points. And I found

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<v Speaker 8>this debate more tolerable than the last one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, absolutely. I mean I thought that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the fact that they shook hands and they

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<v Speaker 2>hope the American public saw it. I never saw they

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<v Speaker 2>I'm they just the first shot of them. They were

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<v Speaker 2>both standing behind their podiums, unlike the ABC debate where

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<v Speaker 2>it showed the vice president coming out, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>the vice president was the one initiated the handshake with

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. She actually went over to him, uh and

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<v Speaker 2>his diais in order to get a handshake. Anyway, Sandra's

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<v Speaker 2>always I appreciated very much. Thank you for taking the

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<v Speaker 2>time to call all all interesting points, all interesting points.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Andrew nine two good night, six seven two thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one line there six one seven, nine ten thirty. If

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<v Speaker 2>you listened to or watched the debate, tell me and

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<v Speaker 2>tell my audience in thirty eight states and across America.

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<v Speaker 2>What did what did you think? What stood out? I

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<v Speaker 2>think you've heard my comments on it. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear yours. Uh. If you think that one of the

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<v Speaker 2>that they both did good jobs for their campaign. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that Van one his his answers were

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<v Speaker 2>very crisp. For the most part, they attempted to answer

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<v Speaker 2>the questions. Walls got hung up on the Tianaman Square,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a lot of inside baseball. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you that. The only line open right now

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<v Speaker 2>is six one. Love to hear from you. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's keep rolling. You're gonna go to David in

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, hey Dan, Yeah, I'm of course disappointed with Trump,

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the.

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<v Speaker 9>Climate change denial is getting Americans killed.

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<v Speaker 2>David is to talk about who you think won the

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<v Speaker 2>debate tonight. Would you like to comment on that?

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<v Speaker 9>Who won it? All the people at wals of course,

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<v Speaker 9>because he does believe that climate change is real and

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<v Speaker 9>Vance does not. And so America's money met past billions

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<v Speaker 9>of dollars have been wasted because of the cow towing

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<v Speaker 9>to the polluters that have caused climate change and.

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<v Speaker 5>The idea of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about the poes in China and Pakistan.

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<v Speaker 9>We outsourced jobs to them, and now the pollution is

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<v Speaker 9>over in their yard. But these are American or international

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<v Speaker 9>corporations that are polluting over there. So that's a dirty,

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<v Speaker 9>dirty answer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one question on the debate tonight. And for you,

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<v Speaker 2>that was it pretty much. I guess right.

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<v Speaker 9>Climate change is real, and the fact that we have

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<v Speaker 9>two candidates, well, we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about climate change some night. We want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about climate change. Left, have you called back? We could?

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<v Speaker 2>We could spend a whole hour on climate change. We

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that often. Actually, David, thanks very much for

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<v Speaker 2>the call. Appreciated. Let me go to on dot and

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<v Speaker 10>Hi Dan. Of course, I watched the whole debate Sat

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<v Speaker 10>Baron looked at everything, and I agree that Vance came

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<v Speaker 10>out on top. I thought Wurtz was kind of jittery.

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<v Speaker 10>I think he was nervous. But they did, they agreed

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<v Speaker 10>on certain things, and they shook hands. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 10>was very very it was very nice to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. That was actually positive, and particularly after

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the name calling that's been going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked about that last night, and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I talked earlier about the viewpoints of the

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<v Speaker 2>public towards Vance and towards Waltz, and Walls has received

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<v Speaker 2>much better publicity. He seems Walls seems like one of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys, good guys. But Walts did answer questions and

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<v Speaker 2>and he engaged. There were a couple that he tried

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<v Speaker 2>both did a credible job. And I thought that Vance

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<v Speaker 10>She was a line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think again a line, you know, And and

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<v Speaker 2>was no question about what do you do about Russia?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do about? How about a question about Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 2>What about question about.

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<v Speaker 10>What about a question of sending our boys over to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there was no question. There was no question about China.

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<v Speaker 2>shoreman strike could have been a weak right now, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>or no question would would if you invoked tafteartly to

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<v Speaker 10>Oh my god, yeah, very very bad, very bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And no question at all about the rise of anti

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<v Speaker 10>Not a word?

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<v Speaker 2>So how can you ignore all of those questions? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>The question they asked, they were, fine, Okay, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Israel today. I get that you want to spend

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<v Speaker 2>a little time on climate change. Fine, immigration, Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a legitimate, a legitimate question, right, And then, but then

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<v Speaker 2>then you get into the economic plans. They spent a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time on that abortion. Was there any question

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<v Speaker 2>in anyone's mind as to how Vance is going to

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<v Speaker 2>answer the question on abortion? I mean, that's that's an

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<v Speaker 2>important question. But but I think we pretty much know

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<v Speaker 2>what a candidates stand on that, gun control, housing in rent.

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<v Speaker 2>important question. It did right. No, But and then the

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<v Speaker 2>state of democracy, Well, the state of democracy is nothing

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<v Speaker 2>more than a softball to Vince. I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. What's their plan for China? How do

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<v Speaker 2>we keep China?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, they weren't going to get into that. No, no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>These and these are all serious questions. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>and the other thing too, is what they needed to

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<v Speaker 2>do is say, okay, look we want to ask you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to ask twenty questions. We don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask ten questions that are eminently predictable. We'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>ask twenty questions because you could prepare each of them

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<v Speaker 2>for the nine questions that were asked. You knew abortion

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<v Speaker 2>support an attack by Israel on Iran? That's up to Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>That's up to Israel. And that played exactly into the

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<v Speaker 10>It's going to be interesting to see what the papers

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be very interesting. It'll be very interesting if there

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<v Speaker 2>are polls tonight as to who won. Now, granted you

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans are going to say Vance. But the question is

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<v Speaker 10>Think Walts was Walts and what you expected. That's how

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<v Speaker 10>don't know what it is about you looked at.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, you know. Again, I don't think the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the camera was trained on each of them while each

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<v Speaker 2>was speaking. So while Vance is speaking, Walls looked nervous

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes a little bit fuddled, sometimes like what did

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<v Speaker 2>he what did he mean by that? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a Vance Vance.

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<v Speaker 10>Vance never looked befuddled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, well, very.

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<v Speaker 10>Clear and very you know, competent. Really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Again that if that's what three years at Yale Law

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<v Speaker 2>School will do, we'll do fine.

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<v Speaker 10>I had that could be, that could be right where

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<v Speaker 10>it was. It was very good and I agree with

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<v Speaker 10>you about how it went.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, thanks Don, I appreciate thanks, appreciate your

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<v Speaker 2>call very much. Let me try to get one more

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<v Speaker 2>in here before the break. Thanks dot uh and again

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<v Speaker 2>I got some open lines I want to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Jay in Pennsylvania. Jay, going to

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<v Speaker 2>get you in here quickly before we go to the

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<v Speaker 2>news at the bottom of the ar Go ahead, Jay.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I want to say, fans ask the question and

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<v Speaker 11>everybody where I live, and that's the many it is.

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<v Speaker 11>She's been in office for three and a half years,

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<v Speaker 11>four thousands of hot days and what has she done?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I think it's fourteen hundred days, not four thousand.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'm sorry, fortunate problem for.

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<v Speaker 2>Four thousand would be a little longer. But yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was the theme. They each had their themes.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're right about that. I think that they both

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<v Speaker 2>effectively worked their themes into it. President Trump. When former

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump had no theme to his UH, to his

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<v Speaker 2>his debate with the vice president, he was all over

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<v Speaker 2>the lot. I mean, whoever prepared Vance should have prepared Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe it was the same people. I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you think? So, I assume you're your Trump supporter? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you think wals did? I thought Walsted under

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<v Speaker 2>the circumstances pretty well. It was really his first big night.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Dvance has been holding news conferences and taking

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<v Speaker 2>questions from reporters for for for weeks now, and before

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<v Speaker 2>that he had been in a tough UH Senate race

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio. I don't know, this was kind of new

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<v Speaker 2>to Walston that I thought.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I have. Unfortunately I did not watch it. I'm driving,

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<v Speaker 11>so I've been driving to West r Indiom trying to

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<v Speaker 11>get back to stations and command come out and man

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<v Speaker 11>come out. So but what I did hear of it?

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<v Speaker 11>I think, Man, he didn't hesitate on anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, right on.

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<v Speaker 11>Point quick response to the other one hesitated as a veteran,

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<v Speaker 11>I'll never support that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well I think that did you and I read

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<v Speaker 2>it pretty pretty similarly. Uh. Jay, Always great to hear

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<v Speaker 2>your voice. Keep calling and keep listening tonight'side. How was

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<v Speaker 2>the reception in West Virginia? If I could ask in

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<v Speaker 2>your car tonight?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, that part is very great.

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<v Speaker 9>It's great.

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<v Speaker 11>I just wish it was that great coming up and

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<v Speaker 11>down the mountains listening to the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Jay, appreciate you call. Thank you much. Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a great night. Keep calling that side. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to take a quick break. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of open lines. If you've been trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>through six one seven or six one seven, one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to hear from you if you watch the debate,

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen to the debate on the radio, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>have a different point of view if you listen to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that TV helped vance tonight, just like it

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<v Speaker 2>helped Jack Kennedy in nineteen sixty. I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>age difference is only twenty years, but it looked a

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<v Speaker 2>lot longer, a longer time than twenty years between Vance

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<v Speaker 2>and Waltz. And again that's we should focus on content,

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<v Speaker 2>but you've got to focus also on a little stylistically

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<v Speaker 2>as well. But substantively, they both did very well. Although

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<v Speaker 2>I give I give the decision to Vance, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you disagree with me, you know, please, I'm looking, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for some people who can tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>that in their opinion. Walls, I'd love to hear your

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<v Speaker 2>thought on it. Again, it's all subjective. There's no right

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<v Speaker 2>or wrong. Feel free six one seven two thirty or

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<v Speaker 2>six seven nine, three one ten thirty. Back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this, you're on night Side with Dan Ray

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<v Speaker 1>on w b Z, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I know numbers on radio are tough to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>but as I said, in this NBC poll in September, JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Vans had a positive, very positive or slash somewhat positive

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<v Speaker 2>rating of merely thirty two. His somewhat negative, very negative

508
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<v Speaker 2>rating was forty five. Tim Walls had a positive, somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>very positive, somewhat positive of forty and his negative rating

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<v Speaker 2>was thirty three, so Vance as of September twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four was thirteen thirteen points underwater. Uh Jim Walls seven

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<v Speaker 2>points to the good. The same poll, they asked people

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<v Speaker 2>about capitalism of socialism. Capitalism fifty one percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>American public positive very positive, negative twenty five percent, somewhat negative,

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<v Speaker 2>very negative, socialism positive eighteen percent, negative fifty five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a theme that the Republicans should start to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about if they want to win this election. That's

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing number. Tom and the Philippines, John, welcome. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you sure it's it's morning time in the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 12>I guess right, it's eleven thirty eight, it's almost lunchtime. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>I listened to the debate. I didn't watch it, and

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<v Speaker 12>you know, they both came off pretty good. I gotta

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<v Speaker 12>be honest with you. Yeah, And you know I'm a

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<v Speaker 12>Trump support. I'm a I'm supporter. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 12>if it changed anybody's views in this election.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think Vans had more to gain because his

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<v Speaker 2>his positive rating accluding the NBC poll combined very positive,

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat positive thirty two. I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to look at him a lot more favorably

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<v Speaker 2>than thirty two. That's all.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And you know the thing that bothers me with

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<v Speaker 5>these debates. I don't like to use the term mainstream

534
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<v Speaker 5>media anymore. I would prefer to call it mainstream propaganda.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just look at the people that work for

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<v Speaker 5>the major networks and they've all got a political bias,

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<v Speaker 5>and for them not to be honest about that, that's

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<v Speaker 5>the one thing that really upsets me.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's an obvious political bias. Tom. If it was subtle,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd say okay, but it's it's it's just out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know, it's funny because I went to high

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<v Speaker 12>school with people that worked for the Associated Press as

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<v Speaker 12>well as other prominent newspapers in New England, and it's

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<v Speaker 12>just these people that I went to school with know

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<v Speaker 12>them personally. They just viewed Donald Trump as as Idolph Hitler.

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<v Speaker 12>And it's like, wait a minute, that is such hyperbole.

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<v Speaker 12>And you might not like his points of view, you

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<v Speaker 12>might not like the fact that he appointed judges to

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<v Speaker 12>the Supreme Court that overturned Row versus Wade, but he

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<v Speaker 12>never ever came out and said I want an absolute

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<v Speaker 12>ban on abortion. And for me, you know, if this

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<v Speaker 12>is nineteen eighty eight, I voted for dou Caucus. I

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<v Speaker 12>was very liberal back then, and on the topic of abortion.

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<v Speaker 12>Back then, I was pro choice, that it's a woman's right. Myself,

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<v Speaker 12>I've evolved on that issue. I like what they do

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<v Speaker 12>in Western Europe and I'm not against abortion, but there

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<v Speaker 12>should be some reasonable restrictions on abortion. And I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 12>but when you get to the eight and a half

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<v Speaker 12>months of pregnancy and the woman's life is the mother's

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<v Speaker 12>life is not in jeopardy, the woman just decides to

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<v Speaker 12>get rid of terminate this pregnancy eight and a half months,

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sorry, that's a viable human being.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think that would have been allowed under

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<v Speaker 2>Roll versus way as I read Row versus Way. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more, it's very complicated because eight months where who

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<v Speaker 2>is told that the that the child is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be born dead?

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, you know, it's a very complicated but good right,

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<v Speaker 12>But but but man, what the point I'm making is

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<v Speaker 12>that if there's no problem with with the pregnancy, and

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<v Speaker 12>there's no problem, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, I don't think that they would that an abortion

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<v Speaker 2>of of a fetus, a live fetus, a live child

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<v Speaker 2>would be legal under Row versus Way. I read as

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<v Speaker 2>I've read, and I understand Roe versus Way, Tom, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I think that I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans have accomplished what they wanted to do, which was

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<v Speaker 2>get it back to the States. But yeah, there there

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<v Speaker 2>is a and I thought Waltz made a good point

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<v Speaker 2>tonight that if you're a woman who lives in a state,

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<v Speaker 2>let us say, like Alabama or Mississippi, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of support and you are pregnant and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get an abortion, you know relatively early

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<v Speaker 2>on you're gonna have to travel quite a distance, of course.

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<v Speaker 12>And just by the way. The one thing that with

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<v Speaker 12>regards to Roe versus Wade, when I hear this that

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<v Speaker 12>it's a constitutional right. Well, a Supreme Court in the

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<v Speaker 12>past has been wrong on a lot of things, like

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<v Speaker 12>the dread Scott decision. And the other thing is there

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<v Speaker 12>there's nothing in the Constitution that says anything about medical care.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Again, I could tell you this, I know

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<v Speaker 2>this issue pretty well. There was a case that preceded

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<v Speaker 2>Me versus Way, rate Roe versus Way, which was Griswold

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<v Speaker 2>versus Connecticut. It was it was an area dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>birth control. Uh, and there was the the the decision

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<v Speaker 2>was written talked about certain numbers and emanations. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the phrase that laid the groundwork for privacy, which then

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<v Speaker 2>became sort of the fundamental uh sub sub substructure or

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<v Speaker 2>infrastructure of Roe versus Way. But I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do I don't want to do a law class on

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<v Speaker 2>I know, of course, the point you're making.

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<v Speaker 12>All right, Dan, you take care of yourself and always

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<v Speaker 12>always a pleasure to call into your program.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Tom, have a great day out there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me keep rolling here, going to go to Karen

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<v Speaker 2>in Lemonster. Karen, you were next on Nicside. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>calling it.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, I just wanted to say that I think that

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<v Speaker 13>I did listen to debate, and I think, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>they both did a good job. But I thought J. D.

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<v Speaker 13>Lance won the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 13>Ms and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, like anything else, he was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>quicker on his feet. I thought that his his his

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<v Speaker 2>his line of thought was was more effective and linear

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<v Speaker 2>almost and uh and he's he's he's got a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sharp mind. I mean, he kept the questions in mind,

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<v Speaker 2>and he he made his points I thought, very effectively.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll see what the polls say tomorrow. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what what CNN says. And of course I think if

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<v Speaker 2>you hear CNN saying well as as CBS said tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to their wrap up, well, these these

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<v Speaker 2>vice presidential debates have no impact.

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<v Speaker 14>Well I think they do.

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<v Speaker 13>I think they might because you know, you listen. I

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<v Speaker 13>listened to others and I think they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. I would agree. And again, particularly UH, you if

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<v Speaker 2>you elect the vice president who is a heartbeat away,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you always have to keep that in mind and

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<v Speaker 2>who is And.

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<v Speaker 13>I think people have to remember another thing about Donald Trump,

634
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<v Speaker 13>what she's done for these people during the hurricane and

635
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<v Speaker 13>Georgia in North Carolina. I think he's helped people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was down there. He certainly had a presence,

637
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<v Speaker 2>and I think that he beat both UH Vice President

638
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<v Speaker 2>Harris and President Biden down there. I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 2>President Biden is in the physical condition.

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<v Speaker 13>He probably isn't, Yeah, which is unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>No one should take any joy in that because all

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<v Speaker 2>of us will at different stages in our lives. Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you much. As always. You got to call more frequently, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>miss talk a lot.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I'll try to call. I just want to say not.

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<v Speaker 13>The thing I liked it about the debate was very

647
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<v Speaker 13>civil compared to this.

648
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<v Speaker 2>It was very civil. There were moments of agreement. I

649
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<v Speaker 2>liked the fact that they shook hands at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of positives, and they even went

651
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<v Speaker 2>up and shook hands with the moderators, and they brought

652
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<v Speaker 2>their wives up to introduce them to each other. I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a class act tonight. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate some of the questions that were ignored. As I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have liked to have heard thoughts about China,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly they stayed away from China because Tim Walls apparently

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<v Speaker 2>has had thirty trips to China. Thirty. Yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 2>idea is that, look, as a governor, you can have trips.

659
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<v Speaker 2>Our governor does trips to different places, Italy, Ireland, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty is a lot of trips and years he became

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated with China and maybe he saw that as a trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing about the anti semitism on college campuses, nothing about

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<v Speaker 2>crime in US cities, nothing about Ukraine. It wasn't one

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<v Speaker 2>question about Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, that's I miss that.

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<v Speaker 2>People listened to the questions that I think should be asked,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that they devoted probably too much time

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<v Speaker 2>to some They went back to the whole question about democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's opposed to democracy? I'm not opposed to it. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not opposed to me.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>All that was was It was an opportunity. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>final question for to bring up January sixth again. That

674
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<v Speaker 2>was all it was. Itself is a bias question. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows what happened. Everybody has made their decision, their

676
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<v Speaker 2>mind up on it anyway. Whatever, Thanks Karret, appreciate the call. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get one more in here real quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got four. I'm going to get one now

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<v Speaker 2>real quickly. Let me go quickly, Matt and Brighton. Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>do me a favor here and give me a quick answer,

681
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<v Speaker 2>will you who won? What did you think?

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<v Speaker 7>I think JD won?

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<v Speaker 3>Evance? You know, I think, like you said, I don't

684
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<v Speaker 3>think think both them doubled down and said things that

685
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<v Speaker 3>were very hypocritical, you know, while also saying stuff about

686
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<v Speaker 3>that's defend Israel and you know, let their proxies grow.

687
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<v Speaker 3>But that's also support Gaza. You know, he didn't want it.

688
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<v Speaker 3>He did not answer about Iran. He danced around that

689
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<v Speaker 3>and JB danced around abortion. So uh so, you know, look,

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<v Speaker 3>stand I want to do maybe real quick. JD won

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<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, but they need to stand to their principles.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think either one of them being at

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<v Speaker 3>some point contradict themselves. And I think that's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a big harm. But shame and Tim Wallas for

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<v Speaker 3>not you know, defending Israel war and he gave to

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<v Speaker 3>Palestine you know before.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk the fence there and you know on the day

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<v Speaker 2>that that over two hundred ballistic missiles were fired by

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<v Speaker 2>Iran at Israel, if they was every day, yeah, right, obviously, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm aware with that as well. Yeah, happy Russia, Shana,

702
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<v Speaker 2>my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciated all right, quick, quick time out for a

706
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<v Speaker 2>couple of messages. We've gott Dustin and Michigan's coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>I got Chris and the Cape. I'm gonna try to

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<v Speaker 2>get everybody, and I promise we're back right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Light Side Studios on w b.

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<v Speaker 3>Z News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I think MSNBC is saying one was smooth the other one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that that's all you need to know. If if

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best they can come up with, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're right Dustin and Michigan, Dustin, I'm gonna get

716
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<v Speaker 2>you and at least four others in here real quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Who won? Who lost? Dustin?

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think I'm gonna say? They probably both won?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>The problem is, though, I think one man showed that

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<v Speaker 5>he had the honor to uh all the truth when

722
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<v Speaker 5>it came to his decision on comments he made about

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<v Speaker 5>the ex president and how he evolved with the way

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<v Speaker 5>the president ran. I'm talking about Trump and the way

725
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<v Speaker 5>he ran his administration. So when they tried to get

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<v Speaker 5>advance to go against what Waltz did with his lies

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<v Speaker 5>about the military and about you know, being in China

728
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<v Speaker 5>or wherever, that was square. Yeah, And that was an out.

729
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<v Speaker 5>That was an actual lie.

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<v Speaker 2>And he really was a lot ob.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was. It was really it was almost like

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<v Speaker 5>that nightly news guy that said he watched bodies floating

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<v Speaker 5>down the.

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans New Orleans. Yeah, Low imagination.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to hit on a couple other things.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you want to just hear about who won,

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<v Speaker 5>who lost.

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<v Speaker 2>To do, Dustin, I hate to do this year. I

739
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<v Speaker 2>got four folks behind you. I'm trying to get everybody

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<v Speaker 2>in here, so can you yeah, real quick, real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the abortion thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a male. I believe all women should be able

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<v Speaker 5>to vote on that only. I think all men should

745
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<v Speaker 5>be out of it. That way, men don't have to

746
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<v Speaker 5>worry about skating back and forth like these two guys did.

747
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<v Speaker 5>They don't have to say to the church. They don't

748
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<v Speaker 5>have to. They just let the women do what.

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<v Speaker 2>They gotta do.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know what they can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Dustin. It's your first time calling my show. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, yesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen at.

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<v Speaker 5>No first time because I was I'm in my I'm

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<v Speaker 5>on the road, and I wanted to hear it on

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<v Speaker 5>the radio.

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<v Speaker 7>So that good show you give me.

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<v Speaker 2>Ronald Clause, come on back, run every night Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>Monday night, WBZ lock ten thirty on your AM dial

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<v Speaker 2>in in the car. Thanks Dustin, I got John.

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<v Speaker 5>iHeart man.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, WBC Boston, you got it. Thanks Dustin, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great one. Okay, Now I'm gonna crunch everybody here,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris and the cave. Chris Veteran call it. What can

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<v Speaker 2>you do for me? Chris?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Hi, Dan. I would say JD. Vance was poised, focused,

768
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<v Speaker 7>uncharacteristically conciliatory, could have been stronger on a lot of points,

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<v Speaker 7>but was far more worldly than Waltz. I think Waltz

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<v Speaker 7>presented himself as an honest, trusting homeroom teacher, which he

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<v Speaker 7>came from, but altogether too parochial and always sort of

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<v Speaker 7>going back to home base Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota. That's one

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<v Speaker 7>state among fifty, and one state in a world in

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<v Speaker 7>turmoil that I just don't think he's secure with. But

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<v Speaker 7>I don't have a favored candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's my that's my opinions changed from did you

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<v Speaker 2>have an opinion of Vance before tonight or no?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I thought he was not particularly conciliatory. I thought

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<v Speaker 7>he wasn't neutering basically all the negatives of his presidential partner.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think he presented pretty well in conciliatory, which

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<v Speaker 7>I thought was uncharacteristic. So I think that fifty to

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<v Speaker 7>fifty I'd give him, you know, a fifty one.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to keep rolling. Here, my friend with balks

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<v Speaker 2>whom thanks Chris Edin Beverly. I'm going to give three

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<v Speaker 2>people about twenty seconds. Go ahead, Ed, what do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want to say? Twenty seconds?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say my opinion of both of them went

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<v Speaker 4>up tonight. Okay, I think they both. I think they

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<v Speaker 4>both did a good job. If I could, I would

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<v Speaker 4>vote for the for the Vance Walls ticket over shown parents.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know what, I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people might feel that way right now, including myself. To

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, I love that comment.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the senior supporters did a horrible job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you on that one too, Ed, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I are right in the money. We'll talk soon. Okay, thanks, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you much, Richie. And know what, Richie, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be quick for me. Okay, really quick? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 14>All right, Danny, how you doing it? Advance messed up

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<v Speaker 14>on two big things. Say I ran deal, but say

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<v Speaker 14>we thought they were doing something wrong. We couldn't just

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<v Speaker 14>go in there. We had to let them know we

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<v Speaker 14>thought something was wrong. Then we had to give them

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<v Speaker 14>twenty one days before we could go in terrible deal

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<v Speaker 14>to border deal. We had to let forty five hundred

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<v Speaker 14>people per day come in.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So who wanted the debate? Rich? Real quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>In your opinion?

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<v Speaker 9>I guess the Vance guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm a Trump guy, and okay, I gotta get.

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<v Speaker 2>One more in Rich. I hate to do it to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got a call earlier. Okay, last of the night, Stu.

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<v Speaker 2>You got about ten seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>Go for it, Kay said, we got to put an

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<v Speaker 4>end to war, or war will put an end to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we wanted a debate.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys who wanted the debate?

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<v Speaker 11>I would say the guy that told the truth, and

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<v Speaker 11>that was Advance.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, sir, I gotta run. Thank you much. Call early.

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<v Speaker 2>We give you more time, Rob Brooks, great job, great

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<v Speaker 2>job to Marita today. Thank you so much. We begin

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<v Speaker 2>year eighteen tonight on Nightside. My name's Dan Rayo Dodgs.

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<v Speaker 2>All cats off, pets go to heaven. That's why Pal

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Rayes, who passed fourteen months ago, that's where are

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<v Speaker 2>your pets are who passed? They loved you and you

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<v Speaker 2>love them. You'll see them again. See again tomorre night

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside. I'll be on Facebook nights Side with Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Ray in about two minutes.