Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Jurassic
Park retrospective. I'm the talking raptor, Travis Snail, and I'm
joined by.
Speaker 2: The egg stealing Kirkle bouncer.
Speaker 3: I'm the person that you need to thank, Jessica.
Speaker 4: I am the Kirby Payton title plus Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Kirkland's name was high sought after he had it in Jessica,
what you had the egg thief.
Speaker 4: But I can't believe no one took Alan. I came
in thinking I should do Alan, but no one. I
thought someone else would have it.
Speaker 1: Well I should have said, like, my name is like Travis,
but like whatever, that's a taylor nickname, where you're like,
I'm Alan taylor Field, like he doesn't. It just doesn't
roll off the time you quote it more than I
do that. Yeah, but I mean like as a nickname,
it doesn't. Having a name as your nickname does not work.
I don't think you know so.
Speaker 5: But you like to point at the transition.
Speaker 6: No, No, I don't want to transition. I want to
finish the name conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep staring.
Speaker 6: Continue in the very your first retro I did say
that I was waiting for an egg scene, like specifically
said talking about eggs. Kirkland knew that I was waiting
for that. See them on their heads, they know it,
just like I did.
Speaker 2: The eggs.
Speaker 1: Technically there is there's multiple egg scenes in the Jurassic Park.
So I just started watching Jurassic World to get ready
for that retro tomorrow. There's a the movie starts with
an egg scene. So there's Kirklin could have thought you
were talking about that eggs scene specifically.
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Kirkham Pats, I actually want to start with you because
all you put in our check because I kind of
I know where Taylor lay is and I know where
Jessica maybe potentially late, but I imagine it's been Washington's
seen this movie, so I don't know where she's gonna go.
But you just said, quote, what a wild movie, so
that could go either way. I don't know if that's
a pro a con somewhere in the middle, and you
haven't really shown your card, so I want to get
your first thoughts of you know, and again, this movie's
been since two thousand and three, so if you haven't
seen you where it's boys, definitely go check out and
go watch the fucking movie. But what are your thoughts
on Jurassic Park three? First Drassic Park not to be
directed by Steven Spielberg. Like I said, it came out
two thousand and three, so a whole ten years later.
What do you think about this one.
Speaker 2: It's funny because as soon as this movie was starting,
I knew that this was the one that I probably
remembered the most out of out of the three. Honestly,
including the first one. I don't know what it was like.
I don't even think I owned this movie. It's just
it was one of those movies that whenever I was
I would be at like a not even like my
friend's house, but like a family friend's house, where like
the only thing you could really do is like watch
their selection of movies. And I know they had Dress
Park three, and I would always throw that on like
every time I would be over there at their house.
Speaker 5: It has shiny case like it always stuck out.
Speaker 2: No, it was really nice with like the slash marks
for the three. I loved it. I love the aesthetic.
But I haven't like revisited this movie since then. So
you know, I was young at the time. This happens
all the time where we'll revisit a movie where that
I have like good, fond memories of as a kid,
and then I watch it and I'm just completely disappointed.
It's why did I even revisit this? I just ruined
all those memories. I'm not gonna lie I I this
wasn't the case for this one. I still really really
enjoyed it. I don't know, I'm interested in hearing everyone's
thoughts because there wasn't a lot in here that made
me think like, oh gosh, this movie's gone awful, Like,
you know, like, I still think it's it's pretty solid.
Shaye thought it was her she liked a lot more
than the second one. Her favorite still the first one
for sure, which again same with me. But still I
quite enjoyed it. I think I like the things that
was introduced, like the pterodactyl threat, it's kind of I
really like the way that they just like go back
to Islesorna. But still like, I think it was just
a fun adventure that there's not too many terrible cgi
moments personally, and yeah, like all in all, I think
it's still a pretty solid movie in the Drassic Park franchise.
So I'll leave it with that.
Speaker 6: Jessica, I love this one by far my favorite. I'll
come straight out say it. I like it better than
the first one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll look for that one.
Speaker 6: This is definitely when I think of Jurassic Park, I
think of this movie same thing as Kirkland. You know,
I remember it the most. I'm pretty sure this is
the one I saw first, and that's probably why it's
my favorite. It just to do this and it's all
you know better, better graphics are action packed, and then
as a kid to go and watch the first one,
you know, just it's got a different vibe, and I
like this one for that kind of more fast paced feel.
It's not just you know, the one t Rex scene.
You get a couple of different moments.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 6: Maybe this is one of those ones where it's kind
of you can call it a guilty pleasure.
Speaker 3: But looking it looks like Kirklin and Taylor are kind
of on my side.
Speaker 6: So I think it's just Travis is the one shaking
his head the most.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be on the wrong side of history.
That's okay, That's it's fine. I'm the most distinguished here,
so I feel confide in my opinion.
Speaker 2: You know, you are the minority amongst them, amongst all
of us.
Speaker 5: But that makes me special. You know, that makes me unique.
Speaker 4: You know that's what I keep telling myself.
Speaker 5: Exactly you done, Jessica.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'll I've passed it off for now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go because I always leave Taylass for these
Jurassic ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I still like the movie.
Speaker 1: It's I agree that up until a certain point, i'd
definitely seen it the most at a certain point in
my life, and then once the like I had seen
them all, and then I just feel like, because I
will many times, I don't need to do a complete
rewatch of the series. I will just watch Drastic Park
and be a Okay. I think this is what we
talked about with the first Drassic Park and what we
talked about just recently with the Top Gun sequel, where
we go, oh, in Top Gun, the gut, like the
knee jerk reaction is just to make a big action
movie for a sequel and not do anything personal or
have character development, and Top Gun two is like, no,
we're actually gonna do all that stuff. That's what this
movie does, like the exact opposite where it's like, oh, yeah,
you remember all those like great character moments and how
they're all defined, We're not doing any of that.
Speaker 5: And like you point out, the only.
Speaker 1: One t X scene, that t Rex scene, just one
of that scene is better than everything Goodbye Nothing has
like the Gusto and you can just tell this is
the movie is not directed by scene of Spielberg like
Joe Johnson's. I think he's a fine enough director. I
know people like The First Cap America. I know people
like Rocketeer. I think he's like a good director, but
it does not have the style.
Speaker 5: It is you.
Speaker 1: It's like if you ate at a nice restaurant and
then you got like the microwave home version of it.
Speaker 5: That's what this one is to me.
Speaker 1: It's just like Dinosaur and it's fun, but it's just
like Dinosaur action for the sake of action. I actually
do think and Taya's gonna defend it, but I think they,
like we talked about this in the first one, they
kind of wreckcon Alan Grant's you know, whole arc in
the first movie, so that kind of sucks, and then
they just kind of make him a goof. He's a
smart goof, but like, how we get back to that,
Like Kirkland point out, man, these people are getting thousands,
some of the millions of dollars to write this, and
this is the story they come up with.
Speaker 5: It's fucking embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Like I like it it's just like, oh, we're just
gonna you want some money, sure, Like that's.
Speaker 5: How we get back.
Speaker 1: This is what we do, Dear, it's my overall. It's
my overall, and it's the thing. It's just like it
just it sucks because it's just it. It feels. I
remember every time we get to the end, it's like,
oh yeah, it's already over, you know, like we really
accomplish nothing.
Speaker 5: It just like it's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like just a theme park ride. And
that's where this feels. And it's like I still like it.
It's not the lowest of the draft series because we're gonna,
well we all reviewed that where we release Fallen Kingdom,
because that I think is definitely a whole different type
of kidikaboodle there.
Speaker 5: But yeah, this one, I think it's just there. It's
I think this it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's like a downturn of Jurassic Park is really like
we talked about story driven, character driven, uh, kind of
morale driven, and then the second one kind of has
that a bit of it where it's a lot more actiony,
but you still some characters that are you know, like
the Hunter that's not like it's shades of gray Ian,
Malcolm's changed and things like that, where this one just
kind of throws all that away and we're just kind
of for this adventure, I guess. And that's the other
thing I would disagree too, that I think the first
movie looks way better than this one. They rely on
the CGI and all those pterodactyls are looking really plastic
e and like we talked about that first on, like
the t rex raptors, they look like you could feel
and they look like they're in the room all Like
even that first shot when the long next when they
see them the first time, we said, oh, that was
the weakest CGI in the first one, but still is
this big moment. They do that again at the one
moment when they see them on the boat and they
just look so computer generated. It's like this it doesn't
feel real at all. And it's at early two thousands
where it's like, oh, look what Peter Jackson did did
with Gallum, we can do that with fucking everything, you know.
And yeah, I think there's a few shots that are
maybe some practicalness, but yeah, it's just missing a lot
of the magic. It feels like it's missing a lot
of things The only thing that kind of makes us
enjoyable is there's some fun chases. But Sam Neil is
still great as Alan Grant. I think the character kind
of takes a dip, but he's still great. It's kind
of like Hugh Jackman and Wolverine is a bad movie,
or Johnny Depp in the Fronts and the Pirates.
Speaker 5: You know, like the actor still is great.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it's it's definitely a kind of forgettable movie.
It's just run, scream, chase, diye. That's about it, and
you get saved. So Tayefield onto you.
Speaker 4: This movie will always have an extremely special place in
my heart. I do like it more than the second one,
and the second one, like I do quite enjoy but
this is our first go at it where we had
no third Drassic Park novel. We're going to uncharted territory,
and we're just pulling content from the two novels and
stuff that wasn't addressed in those first two movies. Were
using it as source material for this third one, and
there were there's a lot of references for that as well.
But I I just I remember being a little kid,
I had this spy set that my mom got me
for Christmas, and it had like a headphone recorder thing.
I could hear like other people's conversations and other room
and it had like an audio recorder. I could hold
my pocket to record conversations. So I was so fucking
happy because the whole battle of the t Rex and
the spin of Saurus I recorded on this little recorder thing.
I just kept replaying it to my movies. I just
kept replaying the t rex roar in the spin of
Source War, and I was fucking on Cloud nine, like
little tape. It was fucking beads to the knees here.
Speaker 5: Did you like when the Spinosaurus just destroys the t Rex.
Speaker 4: I'm not one of those people that has a problem
with this, like so many people online are just so
many people online are so offended by the t Rex
just getting fucking bopped by the Rex. I never had
a problem with that. I was just like, oh, this
is two carnivores just going at it. And as soon
as I saw the Spinosaurus, I really thought the spin
of Sauce was a very cool dinosaur when I was little,
and I think that just kind of stuck and resonated
with me. I'm always for team Rexy from easily newblar
over this t rex like by any means. So that
being said, this movie getting Alan Grant back, getting these
wacky characters, I was, I was just really really sold.
This movie has a lot of elements of the first
one that really just jive well with me.
Speaker 1: It has a it has elements from the first elements
of The Doctor. What elements other than Doctor Grant and
dinosaurs does it have from the first one. It's not
the same pace, it's not the same effects, it's not
the same store. There's no moral story here. H just
a bunch of fucking idiots on an island running from dinosaurs.
Billy's an idiot, Willy's an idiot, or Kirby Herby the
Kirby are idiots.
Speaker 4: I'll give you that.
Speaker 5: Everyone's an idiot, the boat driver to.
Speaker 4: The first one, the boat driver. I think that's just
is a good display of just human human mindset, just
thinking like hey, it's okay, like we're above we're above this.
And I think that's something that the movies always try
to instill in people, like man thinks that they're above
and like, yeah, we can do these dino tours. It's fine. Whatever,
But like, you got to understand that they're creatures. And this,
to me, now I think this movie ages a lot
better compared to the Jurassic World movies because to me,
this is the last movie where we get these risky
road hear me out, this is the last movie we
get in Jurassic Park where these dinosaurs are displayed as
just wild animals and not so much as being horror icons.
But some of these scenes they show the dinosaurs like
omnivores in their own natural habitats, doing their own innocent
little things. And I like that because when you get
the Jurassic World, you're dealing with animals that are shown
to be much more personalized with human attributes I would say,
in their mannerisms and stuff. Where this is this, there's intelligence,
but the intelligence that they deliver in this is again
reminiscent of the first Jurassic Park movie to me, where
they show this animalistic intelligence, especially through the raptors. In
the second one, you get the raptors feeling much more
animalistic and primal, which is definitely good in its own way.
They tackled it, but in this just the way the
raptors were I loved it. I was eating all that up.
The CGI was totally I mean, I'll give you that.
It was definitely going in like, oh, George, Luca's just
a fan of Menace. Let's fucking go crazy here, and
oh yeah, you can definitely see.
Speaker 1: That I made some raptors for you, Steven. He's like, George,
I'm not directing that on Okay, you can have them anyways.
Speaker 4: But I like, I like this movie so much, Like,
god damn, it's just great. I think that the U
God Damn. I liked Alan Grant heavily in this movie. Again,
it's not first drastic part for me, but it's up there,
and I do enjoy how they got Grant onto the island.
I think it's it's it's just it's a cheesy way
that like, he's never gonna go walk on that island.
He doesn't want to. But these two rich people come
in totally fucking sell them on this excursion. Are like, hey,
we'll write you any China check. All we're doing is
flying over and you just gotta point on the dinosaurs.
And they fucking fooled them and they canned him into it,
and I like that it totally worked.
Speaker 5: This is the age of the Internet. This is when
it started. All you need to do is just search
fucking Kirby Pain and tile Plus and boom, you're not
going on this fun.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they had proper internet back there
and not everything watched.
Speaker 1: Tom fuck Pammy, you could find out if Kirby Pain
and tile Plus was something.
Speaker 5: You know, Like he's in the.
Speaker 4: Middle of the Montana desert. He doesn't like computer.
Speaker 5: They went to a restaurant. He doesn't Google here.
Speaker 1: My problem is and we're just gonna get right back
into it is. They shouldn't have set up so hard
of This guy just is a fucking hypcrite. He has
this whole meeting, which I really like that scene. Everyone
just wants to talk to about Drassic, like they don't
give a fuck about Sam.
Speaker 5: I like that, like no one's there for him.
Speaker 1: I really like that's a good ego check for him.
But I hate that they have him say this line
like no power on heaven or Earth will get me
back to that location and cut to five minutes later
and money will do that, And it just takes all
the credibility away from that character.
Speaker 4: You know, on that island, he didn't think he's he
was beating around the bus. He was thinking, I'm not
walking or going on that island.
Speaker 5: He's just flying over.
Speaker 4: What's so bad about that?
Speaker 1: But the other thing that's bad about it is he's
he keeps telling you a billy that since he's been
there or when he went there, he knows the difference
between like the real dinosaurs and what was just like
a creation like mad scientists stuff like that. So that's
where he also completely sells out, where he's like, yeah,
what happened there? That's those aren't real. That's not dinosaurs,
Like that's just a croc. That's just a pony show.
But then it's like, yeah, but I'll fly over and
be a tour guide, and like I hate I hate that.
Like it's fine, I hate this scene. He's like, oh, Kirby,
if you look in this island here, you can see.
Speaker 4: That song though, because like when he's there, he's so
because he went there, because yeah, he's thinking, Okay, these
guys are gonna fund my dig, you know, I like that,
Let's do it. I can put any kind of number
on this check. And then that continues on to when
it's been years since he's had that excursion. It's Jurassic
Park and obviously that was very traumatizing for him and
he's very much deterred from that and just likes going
back to what he's good at, which his fossils. And
now all of a sudden, you have this paleontologist who's
in this airplane and like he says like, oh my god,
like I've forgotten. And I love that line because he
just turns into a kid again looking at these dinosaurs
below him, and that just sells it for me when
he sees that, because it's just that magic that's captured
for this character, like we saw in that first movie.
And again there's these very serious moments where it's life
threatening that he has to endure, but then it's trickled
in with these again beautiful, magical moments where he can
really appreciate these creatures. Again.
Speaker 1: So it's just tough because I feel like that's the
thing he flip flops where you have that and it's like,
oh yeah, I can't.
Speaker 5: I forgot what it's like.
Speaker 1: But then again, ten minutes later he's going on about
John Hamm being a momns and then half an hour
Lar's like, Billy, you fucking monster for taking this.
Speaker 5: You want to take money for the eggs. It's like,
what are you doing, Bud. You're taking money to go
point out some dinosaur you just fly over.
Speaker 4: That's one. But if he's taking her eggs, they've taken eggs,
that's different.
Speaker 5: They've set up.
Speaker 1: Them, They've set up the morality of this character and
his guidelines. I just wish that again they sat down
and thought about this, and there's no other fucking way
they could have gone Alan Grant back to the island.
Then hey, we'll give you some money. That like, and
that's how I'll probably Samuel agreed to do this movie.
Oh I don't want to do it. We'll give you
some money. Okay, I'll fucking do this movie. That's probably
why he's back for Dominion as well. But just like,
I just wish her And there's anyway, some sort of
way I'm not getting paid, pay me and I'll write it.
Speaker 5: But I don't have to.
Speaker 1: I don't have to think about that and look at that. Like,
clearly they found a way in Dominion to get him
back in there. And I don't know what you would do, but.
Speaker 5: Just not And if you're gonna pay him, that's fine,
but then don't hit so many times that he's just
like has such a higher morale than people he come.
Speaker 1: Like they talk about Ian Malcolm being like a stand
up guy, like Alan Grant, Pink's so high of himself,
Like he's constantly making shit jokes about the Kurbies, which
is granted, but he's just as shitty, you know. But sorry, Kirk,
when you were gonna say something, I cut you off
there because this is something ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Like by watching these movies, I just learned how how
desperate archaeologists are to fund their digs, Like they'll they'll
suck your dick if they if because like that's exactly
what Billy said. He's like, I did it for all
the right intentions. So I was just thinking of the dig.
It's like that's exactly why Alan Grant went the first place.
That's basically why he's back here now. Gosh, that's like
that's all their motivations are throughout the entire series.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, and like I don't feel like they really
stress that they're having big money problems because their dig's
going fine at the beginning, and yeah, they want to
talk to about Jurassic Park, but he has like a
whole room filled of people that probably still like got
some money to appear there. So I don't know, it's
just I just think it's a little lazy. It just
felt like they could not think of anything else. And
that's why to me, it's just like probably. And that's
that's where we even talk about the Trassic Park, where
I don't think it's great. We have some sequels, but
I don't think we really need them because it defeats
the purpose of that story, of those characters.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing where.
Speaker 1: With this it's like, well, we just got to make
a movie and we're gonna try and get it back there.
And yeah, Jessica, what do you think about Alan Grant
getting back there? We have Alan Grant, We got Billy there,
Arcadologists there, Billy is touching some woman's hand at the beginning,
very sexually, a very scene. It's like, I don't know
if we need this, but we're doing it. But what
do you think about his reasons for going back to
see some dinosaurs?
Speaker 6: I do want to say, first and foremost, I would
have cashed the check before doing or at least ask.
Speaker 5: For half give me half.
Speaker 1: Now, I had somebody do that with a podcast that
wanted to do some sponsorship, and I thought it was
a little shady. They want us to promote first, like, okay,
give us half. That conversation stopped. Dennis tracks at least
ask for half, get half, and then go.
Speaker 6: Well he had the check because he or something, because
he says that one line, I guess that check's not
gonna go or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 6: To me, that was like an immediate red flag of
how can you be so smart and just not cash
this check. That being said, I'm one hundred percent in
the same boat where enough money and yes, probably could
do it. You know, he also was lied to. He
was just supposed to be flying over It wasn't supposed
to be going back on the island. Again, his stupidity
because obviously I don't know when they turn off the radio,
that's warning them that they are in unsafe airspace.
Speaker 3: Things like that, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, bringing up the sex tape really kind of hits
it home that, Yeah, they probably should have googled.
Speaker 5: I forgot I brought that up. I was like, WHOA,
what plot point did I miss?
Speaker 2: You know, something like that Billy and the Chick at
the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it's tough because, like I guess, maybe
I wish Ellie was in this war too. It's lucky
dominions coming up, and he almost she wouldn't back to
the island. But I thought with the second one, it's
such a smart way to get Golden there because you
have a character that he's dating that goes against his will,
and he's gonna go to try and save it, right,
And it's like, Okay, you get why he's going, You
understand where Grant, it's I don't.
Speaker 5: Know again, it's just we we we got moving.
Speaker 1: And stuff like that, and they got us back there,
so I'll last.
Speaker 6: You we are, and then once we get there, we
get straight to the action as soon as we step.
Speaker 3: Off the plane.
Speaker 2: Before that too, just like the the little early shot
of the oh my god, what's the name Eric?
Speaker 4: Eric?
Speaker 2: And the what even is this guy's position?
Speaker 5: Ben?
Speaker 4: Obviously the missus Kirby's new squeezer.
Speaker 2: You didn't give a fuck about him?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was crazy, be Paul. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that because at first it's just like, oh,
it's a friend, but they're clearly dating. But yeah, when
the skeleton falls and yeah, like Tear's line, it's not
Bennett's our son. It's just like, so, did you you
do not care what this guy all like? Cause like
I don't understand I would feel now he was such
hopefully you know all, if I ever end up divorcing
or splitting away from Emily and I am dating someone,
I clearly would care enough about them if I trust
them to take one of my children over the dinosaur Island.
Speaker 5: But no, she does not. She does give two shits.
Speaker 1: About this guy. And that's why I just care about
her son. I'm not saying not care about the sun.
But it's just like she doesn't even react to that,
like it was. There's many weird lines in the movie
like that. But yeah, I guess he is the you know,
new boyfriend.
Speaker 2: And that's why I like, I didn't realize what the
relationship dynamic was until this viewing because I always just
thought it was some random friend because there's never this
like emotional moment for her. She just doesn't give a
fuck about this guy, and suddenly that was very, very
shocking to me.
Speaker 5: But and like, did she know they were doing this?
Did she know they were going like hang glinding?
Speaker 1: She probably didn't but we don't get that confirmed though,
right Taylor and already, so I would believe her to
be that type of mom be like, yeah, sure, take
my son, like hang letting them like close to the
dinosaur island. Like these people suck in general, these Kirby people.
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, the reason why I even brought
that up was because this was another like Assassin's Creed
moment where these dinos just take out like the boaters.
Like yeah, like what I brought that up in the
whatever the last movie Lost World.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the t rex killed them, went back to sleep. Well.
I always thought the hand on the yeah, because I
thought when.
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I was like, oh, it was
the pterodactyls clearly, like they're in the movie, and I
didn't put two and two together. When you're older, you
watch and you're they're stuck in the bird cage, like
they didn't do that. I actually do think they meant
it to be the pterodactyls, and they fucked themselves later
on the movie by showing them locked up, Like I
think that's just bad writing that they because what else would.
Speaker 6: Do that.
Speaker 4: Minosaurus? I think it's insinuated. It's insinuated. But legit. Like
I've tried looking online and people say like, oh, it's
not a dinosaur or something like, it's like so convolutional.
Speaker 5: I just feel like the spin of saurs I get.
Speaker 1: I guess it's the water, but those clouds on that
big so it worked really fast, Like it was like
kirkan stusass like got them and done and everything like that.
You know.
Speaker 2: So I feel like like even when I was a kid,
that was a scene I just never really understood, like
how they just completely disappeared. It's just like a ghost
story at that point.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and then the like like taking the joke
out of but that has to be. I don't feel
bad for him because I chose to go there, but
landing on that island that has to like what's you
think your day is worse when you look down and
all the people on the boat are gone, And then
what makes it worse is you.
Speaker 5: Have to land on this island that has dinosaurs and.
Speaker 1: Like and know what, I feel like, you not have
to put blame on the kid. But they set up
this kid being like he's pretty smart, right, and he
can survive, he can do all these things. The fact
that he couldn't find anything to help Bob what was his.
Speaker 5: Name, Bob.
Speaker 4: Ben Ben.
Speaker 5: The fact that you couldn't find any thing to cut
all bend down from like.
Speaker 2: He just left them out there to die.
Speaker 4: Oh my, I this again my interpretation. I think when
they landed when they probably got leave you up there.
When they landed there, I think because they were so
close to the raptor and asked, I'm I feel confident
the raptors probably like swooped in and he had to
just go and Ben's get out of here.
Speaker 5: Eric, I can take that. Yeah. He just looks back
and he's like, oh, hold me down there. It's like
you shouldn't have fucked my mom.
Speaker 1: And he just walks into the fields and they from
my dad imagine that they catch like they that video camera,
you know, when they watched it, and then when the
army and everything, it's like the pre the prelude or.
Speaker 5: The what is it?
Speaker 1: It's not the prelude, what is the probably thank you Kirklin.
The cops like bring the parents and like we're gonna
show you something, and it's like the video of just
like Eric like leaving him there and just like being
this evil fucking kid, they're like, your son could have Yeah,
we found a lot of stab marks on Ben's body.
Oh those raptor claws, right, No, it was something else.
There's this video and like, oh man, what a twist.
Speaker 2: But serial killer origin story.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do we think? Oh, go ahead, Jessica your system.
Speaker 6: So just kind of talking about them flying in and everything.
At one point they say that, you know, he's been
there for eight weeks, for two months, basically, like what
the hell buy a boat fill some you know, canteens
with gas boat to the island yourself, Like, it doesn't
make sense to I think it's like.
Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty miles though, Well I thought they
were saying that they couldn't get a like I guess
they could still go there illegally what they did, but
they did say they couldn't get approval from the coast
guard to go over. So yeah, like the island is
definitely monitored to keep people away.
Speaker 1: So there's just one person watching this island and if
they saw this boat, but what were they gonna do?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 5: If they're just gonna let them.
Speaker 4: Go, Like that's what happened to the guys at the beginning.
They came across that one coast Guard and he fucked
them up.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and I guess like it is too because
those people like it's well monitored, but this movie starts
with a fucking boat like paraglide around, so it's not
that well monitored.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, there was the plane. The dude was like freaking
out with his binoculars, right, he was what remember at
the beginning, he was like sizing up that airplane, like
probably checking to see if it was Coast Guard, but
doing an inspection to make no.
Speaker 5: But I mean, how did Eric? How did Eric get there?
Why was he born around? Just fine? No one's stoped,
no coast Guard.
Speaker 4: Stock no, no, But that's what I mean though. The
people on that boat, he was the controller of that boat,
was looking at watching the planes flying around, like making
sure no one was watching them going close to the island.
Speaker 5: But he still got there, Like he still got to
the island.
Speaker 4: He picked his moment, right, So they're.
Speaker 1: Doing extreme sports around the islands, advertising on his parachute.
Speaker 6: For the place, turned off his radio and it's like okay,
well no I don't have to hear it.
Speaker 4: But they knew, yeah, they knew they were going in there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but I just mean it's not being watched
that well.
Speaker 4: No, oh no, they're doing an absolute fucking shit job.
Speaker 5: I guess they Yeah, I guess they like they want
Alan Grant because they need an expert, and then they
got all these swat people, So I guess I don't know,
maybe because maybe they had to like sell a bunch
of stuff and maybe get into a bunch of den stuff.
So eight weeks does seem like a long time.
Speaker 1: Maybe it could have been a month, but like, yeah,
I could, I could see you taking a little bit
of time. But yeah, what is He's just uh yeah,
pain tel plus, Like what does he say he actually is?
I can't remember. He's like some sort of like his
fake job. I can't remember what it is. It's some
sort of contract or something like that. And they're talking about, oh,
we're gonna be going to the moon next and but
we really want to do this and yet to do and.
Speaker 4: Kirby Enterprises Enterprises, Slab Enterprises at the end of the year,
James Bond Villains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he sells it well. Williemine Mason's great. He's
great in two ways. He's great as like that schist
at the beginning and then he's great as like the
pathetic like dad, like later on when he's just like
has nothing. One of my favorites, probably my favorite scene
of this movie is when they're in the little I
don't know the center with the raptors and everything like that,
and they find the snack machine and he's like, hey.
Speaker 5: Does anybody got a dollar fifty? Like I got a
dollar ten? He asked anybody, like could you break it?
Speaker 1: And then you have Billy who just comes in and
fucking super kicks the glass, gets the snacks. Cut to
will Or, he tries the same thing and he kicks
the glass and he just like Ricochet's back and not
only is it embarrassing, my favorite take is like he
says back and he like bends down to like hold
his knee like in pain. Like that's how like, what
of a frail little man this guy is? And will
h basically he's always like a very underrated guy.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think they play the kind of sneaky people.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just I don't obviously don't like the setup,
but a Tilo tia Leoni is always great and everything
like that, so they're.
Speaker 5: They do their role as well. I'll say that.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I think that's a big boost for
this movie for me personally, is those characters. It's it's
really easy to just bring on like new characters that
are just really boring, and but like I think I
like their their role, their their the comedy that affected them,
the dynamic of them just trying to find their their child,
another dynamic of having them like be a divorced couple
and they're kind of like hiding that in the beginning.
There's a lot of just dynamics with with those two
characters that been added to this movie, and I think
that definitely boosts it personally because the performances are great. Yeah,
like when she's just like constantly on the megaphone, like
screaming out basically just attracting all the t rexes constantly.
And then yeah, like Travis, you brought up some points
about William H. Macy, but I love when eventually he's
just like giving his wife or his ex wife shit,
like come on, doctor Grant, told you not to do this,
doctor Grant. And she's just like mogging and like, oh,
doctor Grant doing this, like almost like she just sees
him like pretty pathetic in that sense. So it's a
fun uh yeah, just a lot of layers with these characters.
Speaker 6: Anything else on the Kirbys, You got anything, Jessica, having
just finished eleven seasons of Shameless, it was I had
a hard time not seeing that character.
Speaker 1: One thing that I saw off for the first time,
because I haven't watched it since then. One of my
favorite point parts is when he brings the check book
out and he's like, name your price.
Speaker 5: I can do anything.
Speaker 1: And we live in a world where him and his
wife got caught like getting their children illegally into school
in real life by like paying people and stuff like that.
So I got a good chuckle about that. It's like
to name your price. It's like, oh man, he's acted
this scene up before. It seems so realistic and stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, he said, I can write down any number.
Speaker 5: Any number. I'd love to see the number Grant picked.
Speaker 4: Well, all kinds of numbers on this check Yeah, what's
I mean?
Speaker 5: I'd be like fifty fifty mil right now, write it down,
And he would have but like then I would have
been like going to the bank, like, yeah, let's make
sure that's clear.
Speaker 6: It's you know, well, yeah, I could write any number
on my checkbook too. Is that that specific wording I
can write them doesn't mean you can cash them.
Speaker 5: Oh but I don't. Grant now he'll believe it. He's like,
I gotta get my big fund, get my fucking money. Bro.
Oh god.
Speaker 4: I the Curvies are definitely like they're not even a
con for me. I just I get a kick out
of it because you have just these people that think
the most part, only a handful of people have actually
been to the island so far in the storyline, and
majority of the world hasn't, so a lot of people
don't know how to interact in these situations. And I
do again. I like how they brought on Alan Grant.
I thought that it was clever to have this like guy,
but they kidnapped him, which is definitely wrong on their point.
And when there's just there's so many moments where you
just you do hate them, like when the spina Saurus
is like flipping the plane and Amanda runs out and
Alan Grant, like a badass, goes to get her, and
then Paul Kirby's like Amanda, and William H. Macy just
steps out and looks up it just goes back inside
like a fucking Coward. Oh that's too funny. But yeah,
there's just again even though missus Kirby she's like, it
looks as like, oh my god, no he's not. When
you Desky is like dying on the ground, like goes
down there, and Kurt, mister Kirkby's like, well, gotta help him,
and she just fucking falls like a goof. She's so
fucking lucky. I don't know how physically possible her legs
could have done that, but she's lifting, she's doing she's
definitely fucking lifting holy ship. But yeah, this is the
fucking like microphone ship and everything, like you mentioned Kirklin,
like doctor Grant. Doctor Grant says, what's the point of
hiring an expert if he's not gonna listen, We're not
gonna It's like, there's just so many quirky, fucking funny moments.
My favorite with Amanda Kirby, though, is definitely when that
fucking raptor plays her. I love that scene so much.
It's just so it's it's different and I don't know
why a raptor would do that, but it just did.
Speaker 5: And no, I don't know either.
Speaker 2: The rock Eye bro.
Speaker 5: Watch this. I'm gonna fuck with this human. Watch this guy.
Speaker 2: So see the raptors are giggling in the bag.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then that raptor gets embarrassed and he gets
locked in the doors. Okay with the joke, that gets out.
Speaker 4: It gets out though.
Speaker 5: It takes a little time though.
Speaker 4: Help them. Oh that that's something else too. Again leading
up to when Paul Kirby interrupts Billy and Ali. But
when they get that resoning chamber, the blosst after funk.
I want to three D print one of those so bad.
I just want it everywhere online. I haven't looked. I should, though,
be careful. Do you know we should mass produce them
and start.
Speaker 5: Selling a mask?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, put a Geekbirst logo on them.
Speaker 5: Official. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose profit. Can be next Patreon tier.
You can get this three D printed.
Speaker 4: Chamber.
Speaker 5: Yeah, raptor throw TV logo on it.
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite things at the end when
he's doing it and Kirby is like, tell them to
do this, like he's telling that. I just wish I
had lived in the reality where he made a sound
and the raptors made it, thought like he was telling
them to attack, like he does like a.
Speaker 5: Wrong sound, and it's just over for all them.
Speaker 4: But that's over for you.
Speaker 5: It's over for you, doctor Grant.
Speaker 1: But uh, we should probably talk about Billy because we haven't.
We've we've not really mentioned him at all. I just
know him, as you know. He's Casher Troy's brother from
Face Off. That's the only other thing I've seen him
in my life.
Speaker 5: And I actually don't mind the Billy character. I like
him enough.
Speaker 1: I think Alan granted him have like a kind of
fun dynamic. I like the looking up kind of mentor
really does. I don't know why the writers at any
point thought it was good turn him into a raptor
and for him to say Alan, it's a great gift
and everything. But like that, that's one of those things
where it's great now. It's like the prequels. It's great
now because we've retroactively made it very funny. But I
don't know how this room of writers sat down was like, Hey, well,
Alan's gonna have this dream sequence. He's gonna look over
and there's gonna be a raptor. Oh what is he
gonna do? Well, it's gonna say Alan, and then he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna wake up.
Speaker 2: Oh, the raptors are haunting them.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 1: It's not until he's it's not until the raptor opens
his mouth. The raptor could just be from I've.
Speaker 2: Had weird I've had weirder dreams than that.
Speaker 1: Well that's an after nine. But the raptor could just
sit there and whatever. But like I said, I like
the character enough. He steals the eggs, so again, just
he's like the Kirbyes. He's a fucking idiot, like I
feel like he should know not to. And again it's
because he needs his money for the dig site. But still,
the you know, the gain versus lost scenario, I don't
think it's worth that.
Speaker 5: It's a fun little thing.
Speaker 1: I like they tries to do the hero play and
sacrifice himself the pterodactyls. And he got Alan's hat back too.
So I like the character enough. I don't have a
problem with him. I like the combo of him and
aland together.
Speaker 5: I'll say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the role that he was in, you know,
just to replace Ellie. Basically, Yeah, this isn't a love interest,
but I liked how it was because he seemed, i
don't know, like an assistant or something to doctor Grant,
like he was like like there at his beck and call,
and then he he comes on this little adventure with him,
and I like when the Kurbes are like confronting Allen Grant,
like what are you talking about? Like you've been on
this island before, and then a Billy is the one
that interjects like.
Speaker 5: Like I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, it's
it was a new Blu. It's just like what's going
on here?
Speaker 2: But still know he's fun and yeah, I think he
was a memorable character from from the movie, from his
sacrifice and the bastard that steals the raptor eggs. He's
this is just weird relationship with his bag and the
lucky strap.
Speaker 5: Oh I know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an concurring theme in Jurassic Park because there's
always a lucky bag.
Speaker 2: There's always a lucky bag, is there?
Speaker 4: Remember the second one, Sarah's bag, You're lucky pack.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 1: Fuck maybe maybe Billy will have bring that to Dominion.
Are we seeing billion Dominion?
Speaker 4: Tator forgot that.
Speaker 2: He that he survived in this movie at the very
end of like this viewing because he gets fucked up
by those acts like he gets just pecked to death
in the river. It's like Jesus Christ, get away and
I don't like ran, but he's still I can help you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, get away.
Speaker 4: So that scene trick, you guys, when like the out
of focus actor like turned around every time.
Speaker 2: I love that scene.
Speaker 1: It's a great shot. I wouldn't say it was tricked.
It's just like a great shot, you know, scared, like
it just panned out to reveal another teroidactor. Like it's
cool the way like that shot the teroid act was
the most realistic looking shot the whole movie of them.
And I don't know why if they use practical for
that one, because the other times they just they don't
look there.
Speaker 5: One of my favorite moments is when they're in the.
Speaker 1: Cages in the hallway and I'll get just like fucking
boots at one of the fabes.
Speaker 5: So good, but it's good, but also does like nothing.
Speaker 1: He's like take that and then no, they're just back
to the attack and it's just kind of funny.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but I see that's the thing.
Speaker 1: If we get Durstic World seven or Parks and Whatever's
gonna be like you still have you know, Ian Malcolm's girlfriend.
Speaker 5: You gonna bring back you can bring back these We'll
bring back Billy. You know, there's there's other people on
the board that they could still bring back. You know,
I'm wait, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for Julian Moore.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I need Billy at the Kirby's back,
especially the Kirbys. But was Air open up to you know?
Is he also helping the Dinal people out?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's gotta get money for his dig.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, his parents are so much in debt for
all these lies that they like, for that, the plane,
all the gear.
Speaker 5: I'm sure I don't have.
Speaker 4: To pay for any of that. They all died.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all died.
Speaker 1: I guess, so unless there's this whole thing like a
subplot where they go back and there's like the fourth
guy that like stayed back, like I'll be back when
you when you come back for your mission, like it
make sure you get that money, and.
Speaker 4: It didn't have castle check when we get back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And we had those. We did talk
with the hit man people, but those were just cannon.
We got to talk.
Speaker 4: About the hip man people. We got to talk about them.
How did you guys feel about Cooper? Just the whole
sequence set up with him like Philly turns around, I
don't know the Kirbys well through a church then just
fucking dex Allen Grant in the ground, Like, holy shit,
what a character, what a guy.
Speaker 5: I'm happy he went the way it did for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, hit Man going to forty seven. I I
feel like that that joke about like the being the
church always went over my head. I never understood what
the hell that was, and then completely forgot how early
he fucking dies in this movie. Oh yeah, you don't
see him at all.
Speaker 3: And I love how.
Speaker 2: Doctor Grant's like he's like trying to find this guy,
like who hit me? Who hit me? It's like all
that guy over there, run into the woods and he
never gets like a chance to confront him. And then
when they get into the plane to like fly away,
he's like, oh, that's Cooper, almost like he wants to
save him so that he can't confront him. I'm not
gonna be able to confront him.
Speaker 5: That's Cooper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, funny, funny moment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, some good kills a party that the other guy.
He had some great yells when that plane like went in.
Speaker 1: There, and and that's thing, Like I like all the sequences,
they're all like I like the boat sequence, I like
the plane sequence.
Speaker 5: I think they're just always missing something.
Speaker 1: And I honestly think like the something is like being
directed by like a great director that can really like
work the camera and work the tension. It just kind
of feels like it happens, and most of them it
just feels the movie feels we just go set piece
of set piece, like Okay, we got the raptor dome,
we got you know, the spine of Saurus and t
Rex fight, and then we got okay, Alan Grant's gonna
roll run the log for a little bit.
Speaker 5: And then we got We're gonna find Eric, and we.
Speaker 1: Get the you know, the the boat thing, and then
they're gonna dig through shit like not too many moments
and stuff like that. And I wonder what the idea
was to not have Ellie on this adventure. Maybe you
know what, probably because she's too smart a fucking character.
She would have got this pitch and she would.
Speaker 5: Be like, what do we do? Like, what do you
mean We're gonna go fly over this thing?
Speaker 1: You know, like the only reason she comes back and
six is because she has no choice because fucking dinosaurs
are coming to her home.
Speaker 5: She's the only one that fucking learned. You know.
Speaker 2: You just mentioned like those set pieces and the ones
that you're listening off. I think that's a big reason.
Also why I really like the movie is I think
all those execution of the set pieces is really good, honestly,
Like when they are in the plane and it goes
from and in the tree to falling down and that
spinosaurus is just like rolling around Like. I think those
are fun, intense moments. The chases are good, them looking
through like the dino source.
Speaker 6: Shit.
Speaker 2: I love the reoccurring like like song with that satellite phone,
like like they they know what that is, but it
just keeps popping up into different places throughout the movie.
I love that. I love the the pterodactyl like birds nests, uh,
just like setting Like that's so fun too. When it's
like super foggy and then Eric's going out there, he
thinks it's his mom behind him. It's fucking pterarodactyl again,
like Assassin's Creed level. These dinosaurs, it's like you can
like clearly see it Mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know there's some fog going around, but you
can still see a shape enough to know, like your
arm doesn't.
Speaker 5: Have these your mom doesn't have these big fucking arms around.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think also too, like I I
remember back like the first time I saw that movie,
and like, you don't see the pterodactyls up to that point,
but they're in this cage are Doctor Grant just has
his like ship on the railing that he like basically tastes.
He's like, what is this?
Speaker 5: I think something's wrong.
Speaker 2: Fucking some bird ships, some bird cage.
Speaker 5: You want to try this? I think it's bird shit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I I think I just have like
fond memories of like the first time I saw that
and just thinking like, oh my god, it's a bird
cage but for dinosaur birds, so it's just massive. And
then when they're out of it and then they see
like the full scale of it's really really good. So
again I I think, I just I really enjoy all
of those those sequences. The boat, as you mentioned, the
the moment with the flare and like the nighttime with
whatever dinosaur shows up. Is that the spinosaurs again.
Speaker 1: Almost burns a father and a former husband in front
of his family, like it was the smart thing to do,
but that flare was very risky, you know, like it
took Kirby to just take one wrong step and he's
falling flat in that fire.
Speaker 4: And did you guys enjoy that scene when Alan Grant
tripped and found that fucking log and the t rex
stepped over him.
Speaker 5: I do like that good. It's one of those scenes
that it's just like a weird type of satisfying thing
to see him in the middle log and then the
step up and and just make it. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 6: Something I'd always thought too is when they are digging
through the poop and it like turns away the dinosaur,
Why wouldn't you take some of that? Like, I know
that sounds really gross, but if you're trying to survive, shit,
pack some of that ship and then if another dinosaur comes,
you know, use that to cover your scent.
Speaker 5: Oh I thought you meant to eat or something like that.
Speaker 4: No, he was already full on that bird poop already,
So yeah.
Speaker 5: He's like, you know what, guys, this ship's good. I'm
gonna bring this dinosaur. No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very confused there for a second. I
guess you could. I guess they're hoping that are just
this is gonna be last stop and everything. But what
would they carry to though?
Speaker 5: Too? Did I guess their backpacks? Their backpacks are just.
Speaker 2: On their skin?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, we already were talking rash.
Speaker 1: We talked about your circular son. Now tell me why
do you have packs filled of dinosaur ship?
Speaker 5: What the fuck's wrong with all.
Speaker 2: The joint of your stomach is filled with this bird ship?
Speaker 1: Talk to Grant, you're a well respected person in this field,
and why his lips? You're you're eating bird ship, You're
keeping dinosaurs ship. You went on this mission with a
fake check, Like what happened to you since Jurassic bark Man,
goddamn U.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Ellie is living like the best life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I left that fucking loser years ago. Yeah, he
reminds me too.
Speaker 2: I fucking love when the beginning or sent me the
beginning of the film, when Grant is visiting Ellie and
her family there and like, you know, it's this nice moment.
He's like it wasn't even her and her new family,
and then all of a sudden, like gets on the
topic of the raptors. I think he's just saying like,
there's so much smarter than we remember, and he's like
talking normally. He's just like, do you remember what they said?
It's like super weird. Oh yeah, he's totally super junkie.
And Ellie's just like gets instantly weird now like okay, man,
like let it go.
Speaker 5: You can see me.
Speaker 1: That's why they divorced. Like she's like, oh, we're gonna
get married here, and he's like he's like, remember they
sound like you remember what they smell like you remember
that person?
Speaker 5: Ellie, it tasted like.
Speaker 7: You remember what John Allan smelled like, fuck issled all
you guys just talk about. She's like, dude, I'm out
of here.
Speaker 5: It's not happening.
Speaker 1: But you know it is super awkward because it's just
like everything about him is awkward in that team, but
not and I think the way that Taylor likes like,
I feel like they played it different. Like even when
he meets the husband, it's like, okay, he's meaning it's
kind of awkward, but yeah, they have this nice dinner
and it's just like a like, oh yeah.
Speaker 5: It's good, it's great to see you again.
Speaker 1: Al and just yeah right into dinosaurs, you remember and
like she remembers she was there with you, dude and everything.
But I like that the kid calls him and I
love that the kid calling dinosaur man. One of my
favorite things was at the beginning when the kids playing
the dinosaurs and the kid does not give a fuck
about Alan Grant saying he's like though, and this is
why I guess, you know, maybe wouldn't have been good
with kids, Like no, Billy like or whatever. The kid's
name is. What's the kid's name is Taylor? At least
kids name that's in good trivia for you. There you go,
there's some fan of that that knows it. But when
he's Charlie and he's like, oh, Charlie, like they don't
play like that, Like he he's Will Farrell from the
Lego movie, like no, you can't. You can't touch these toys.
Like he's like, no, they don't act like that, Charlie.
Like the kids like what four or five? Like, no,
they wouldn't fight like they're they eat green things. They
don't eat they eat green things, they eat shit, they
don't eat meat, Charlie.
Speaker 2: But you know, doctor, when he plays GTA, he follows
like the rules of the road.
Speaker 5: Waiting for my green light.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what kind of power does Ellie have that she
could call in the army and the navy or whatever
it was.
Speaker 4: Got that red phone mark because Mark works for the
State Department or something like that. He's got connections with
the government on that front. So that's the kind of power.
Speaker 1: So she married him, and she's like, in case she
goes okay, because we decided not to nuke this fucking island,
in case these guys are coming, I need to be
at the guy now. That's a good question though, and
then we'll up on the future probably, But do you
think she's still gonna when we get to Dominion? Are
they gonna have her still with this guy? Or are
they gonna have them divorce? And like her and Grant
have like a not a flame, but.
Speaker 5: The old connection there. My theory is she will be
single again.
Speaker 4: I think she'll be single.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I think so as well.
Speaker 3: Are they gonna rekindle?
Speaker 1: Maybe she's fucking eating Malcolm. That'd be the big plot twist,
you know, finally, you know, No, I don't think they'll rekindle.
I think they're being away where they're like there's they'll
have the classic what could have been kind of thing,
but they'll still.
Speaker 5: Love each other.
Speaker 4: Remember when she walks up to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I told your husband about it too.
Speaker 5: I couldn't still telling them when they saved me.
Speaker 1: Fuck I And he's like, She's like, no, actually it's
been someone.
Speaker 5: I don't remember the sounds. He's like, well, that's good
because guess what I got brown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I think they'll kind of be like
a rekindle something. And then I think unfortunate too, that
there's a chance that Grant could die.
Speaker 5: So it's one of those things what could have been?
Speaker 4: And I can hope not.
Speaker 5: He has no kid. Ian Malcolm has kids.
Speaker 4: She kids like, okay, so you have kids. That automatically
means you get to live.
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I think if your kids, you're more likely to die
in a movie.
Speaker 1: No, Because, like the thing is, Alan Grant can make
the hero play. He has nothing that he doesn't have
to leave a daughter behind her. I'm behind he can
make the play. The only one is gonna be sad
as Elie and.
Speaker 4: Leave in the field of paleontology behind. That's definitely his cure.
Speaker 5: Well, maybe it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Because he's making these rash decisions, like going back to
an eye.
Speaker 5: That was Billy.
Speaker 4: Billy definitely like pushed that, like in his defense because
he was denying Kirby. He was denying Kirby like I'm busy,
he just got back from traveling, and Billy's like, oh, well, gladly,
we'll do it. And then when they're at the bar
or whatever, Billy's just like popping the questions and like
totally diving into it.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 1: But then when Kirby says, like, all write anything you want,
they do this like zooming on Grant when he's like,
oh yeah, he's smiling, He's smiling all evils. It's like
Billy didn't say ship to him.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 1: He he's like, fucking money, I can buy more bird cages.
Speaker 4: Fucking bird shit.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's one of these moments right here.
Speaker 5: Oh it is.
Speaker 2: Oh laugh at those.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 1: Oh now, just any time I see Alan Graham, I
think it was a weird beard shit guy.
Speaker 2: Now you know, oh man, you did not hesitate to
grab that bird shit.
Speaker 5: Oh no, think of anything like, oh I don't touch it.
That's a poison fun guy.
Speaker 2: Carcinogen, you know, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's sniffing it like people are gonna be sniffing cocaine
here in BC and January twenty twenty three. But let
me checking my notes here. Oh no, these are Jurassic
World notes. Never mind, and I'm like this does makes sense. No,
I've hit all my Traassic Park three notes.
Speaker 4: So, Kirkland, were you were you happy to see your
ankylosaurus for the first time in the Yes, Billy was.
Speaker 2: That was like right after they get separated, and then yeah,
it's nice. That was a cgi spot that didn't look
too bad. I think the shading in that scene definitely helped.
But looking great, like an armor ready to slap some
ass with that giant club it.
Speaker 5: It did a little you know, put up a fight.
Speaker 1: But then what I hated was the spiny Saurus when
they meet up because of the phone and there's like
this big gate and they're like spending like there's like how.
Speaker 5: Are we gonna get around? It's like what we're gonna do?
Speaker 1: And then when they run away from the dinosaurs, there
just happens to be a huge hole that they can
get through it they go okay, and that that that
is my definition of this movie. Right when you think
there's a problem and how we can solve the way.
It's just a hole.
Speaker 2: There's more that it's like this this pen to keep
spin of saurces out literally just runs right through it.
Speaker 4: Yeah it wasn't.
Speaker 2: No, that's but still that was like reinforced steel. It
looked like and you just walked right through that like butter.
But it's a big dino, I guess. I remember when
I was younger, I love the introduction of the spinosaurus.
It was it was so interesting to have like a
t rex like monster with that with actual arms that
it could use. So I like the new thread of
this this guy.
Speaker 4: You get that juicy sound effect too, when this minosaurus
bites on the t rex's neck and you actually hear
that snap. Oh yeah, man, that's rough.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I was gonna ask too the the scene with
the with the ship and that one t rex looking
motherfucker was there? What what type of dino was like?
Was that just a t rex that was like red
with horns?
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't a t rex. I can't remember the
name of it.
Speaker 2: Remember that one looking saurus. Yeah, it's that's what it
looks like. Is the brock man?
Speaker 1: I just laughed when they get that ship on Grandma's like,
oh my god, look at all this ship.
Speaker 5: We had to dive in it.
Speaker 4: Sarah toosaurus, that's whats cool looking looking?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was looking rough on the c G.
Speaker 1: I though they they could have took another pass on him,
but yeah, he's cool looking.
Speaker 5: Dinah, we want to fuck with him. Many dinosaurs that
are red, no, thank you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and the horns too.
Speaker 3: If it's red, you'd be dead like the snakes. Yeah,
what was that thing?
Speaker 5: Right? Green ones? Bite you? You're fine, no problem. You
may have some broken limbs, but yeah, that thing bite me.
It's over.
Speaker 4: What did you guys think of the look of the raptors?
A little bit of feathering on the on their heads.
Speaker 2: I like the feathers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: I just again they don't look as they don't look
as good as the first ones. That always takes me
out of it. But I think when they do that
scene with giving the eggs back, that's the best they look.
But uh yeah, just to get some feathers on there.
And I like how they're used in this as far
as again they're they end up being the main baddies again,
but they're kind of you sporadically, and it's a I
won't say realistic because I don't know if that's exactly
how it's gonna go down. But I bought the motive
of Okay, this's the you know, Billy's taking their eggs
and they're just trying to get them back, you know.
Speaker 2: So I remember always thinking to Udsky when he when
he gets like pair of lives by that one raptor claw.
Oh that was that was always a scene that would
just like make me cranch just like that big Ye
getting index. Yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like how it's like, you're still alive.
Speaker 2: We can go save them.
Speaker 4: I love that Alan Grant scene when he's like peering
through the grass, like what are you saying? What are
you looking for?
Speaker 2: Make some noise I want to make. He's like beating
off in the bush.
Speaker 4: It was me Berry, it was me Billy.
Speaker 5: Me Billy all along. I did that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where else anything else to show out now scenes moments? Again,
I think the film just ends very abruptly, and it's
weird that I don't really mention this in Jurassic World,
which is fine, but like where those pterodactyls end up
you know, because the Dominions.
Speaker 4: All shot probably the American border and just gunned down.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, they should have downe to the Kirby's, you know,
like they should have stopped all this. But okay, fair
enough that they got out there, why didn't they gun them?
They gotta gun them down this next movie, you know,
because there's gonna be a lot of them out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I think the interesting dynamic here is with theseless Sorena.
The animals that were there were protected and if they
soundered off then yeah, imagine they'd be like capped or whatever.
But now we're looking at these animals having left and
their their rights make them I think, sort of protected,
like they have certain kind of like protective rights behind them,
I guess. And that was just it's it's a never
changing kind of thing, because I mean, how do you
deal with that was an extinct animal that was isolated
on an island illegally brought to the mainland, and now
you think, well, all these activist rights people are all
freaking out, like, hey, these dinosaurs gotta be kept safe.
Speaker 5: So I don't care what that fucking little girl did
the last movie. I lend them all go. They all
should have been killed the one by one. I'm not
done for elemeal cruelty.
Speaker 1: But these things are gonna destroy as all, and we're
bringing them.
Speaker 4: We bring among It's a plan of the apes kind
of debacle. Like if you could have successfully have just
put them on island, I would have said, like.
Speaker 5: Plan the apes is completely different planning.
Speaker 4: No, this is like the bring the dinosaurs in the mainland.
Then that's that's literally like like humanity, like facing a
serious tribulation like scenario where these things will inevitably be
able to dominate.
Speaker 1: No, I guess what Jurassic parks like, we made the
dinosaurs and rise of Like in planting the apes, the
monkeys just started to talk.
Speaker 4: It was like, but the humanity made that right, Like
they made that virus to make them to that point
to evolve.
Speaker 1: Just like it depends what New York I'm telling the
OG films. So they just got smart enough they could
talk and stuff.
Speaker 5: We don't know if it's a virus or whatnot. But
but again we didn't bring that. Well, we kind of
brought that upon ourselves with the cages.
Speaker 1: Either way, we'll say that for the plant apes retro
one day, which I can't wait for Disney keep making
that movie.
Speaker 5: But what else? What else to shout out?
Speaker 2: I don't have any more notes.
Speaker 5: Okay, you got something Taylor's thinking.
Speaker 6: So just to kind of, I guess, go back to
the scenes that like when I thought of Jurassic Park.
The scenes that I like strictly remember is of course
the giving the eggs because you sold them when they
are in the river like near the end piece looking
over the cliff, that kind of scene, and the bird cage.
I don't remember anything that happened in the bird cade,
but I remember the bird cage and the terror or yeah,
pterodactyls flying away at the end and being like, oh,
the next one, they're gonna come and you know, destroy
New York Godzilla type situation, which apparently happened in the
second one, but I didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have been able to recall how it ended
or how it started.
Speaker 3: But all my memories just you know, it was nice.
Speaker 6: To kind of have that come back up and be
able to be like, okay, it's all piece back together again.
Speaker 5: Then the stalls drug, you know, yeah kind of and
here we are, you know what, it's this came out
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: This is almost twenty twenty three. It came out.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, sorry, that came out two thousand and three.
It's almost twenty twenty three. It took twenty years for
them finally they get a movie where they're gonna be
all in the mainland messing stuff up.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So what do you guys think of Billy just popping
that parachute and just fucking like, don't Billy wait?
Speaker 2: He was waiting for that moment. He was looking for
any opportunity to pull up that parachute.
Speaker 1: Like there's this moment where he's Kirkmimerson right and then
but the other thing is like there's this moment where
Alan Grant's like rushing him and he almost grabs him.
Like imagine if while he's send up, he fucking grabbed
Billy so he couldn't like release his parachute and he
just like crashed down to his death like like very
risky thing. But yeah, no, he he Billy was. Billy's
definitely dead, like even before like now because the pterodactyl attack.
Ice mean, he's probably done a lot of other stuff
in his life. So even before the dinosaurs got back.
Speaker 5: To the mainland here. I think he did something else
that was stupid and not thought well.
Speaker 6: So well, isn't there a special way you have to
fold a parachute so it even comes out properly?
Speaker 4: I think they did that. Billy was the one. Yeah,
he's pretty, he's pretty savy.
Speaker 5: He's like fucking girls on dinosaur fossils and stuff like that,
Like he's doing all that stuff, he's not, you know, dog.
Speaker 2: Shit, or that he gives doctor Grant like right before
he goes off, Oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like he's gonna pull a knife on him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's like got this sinister smile, like yeah.
Speaker 5: I a wish he hate ship now Graham and be like, man,
I hate this guy.
Speaker 1: Like the Ellie needs to really come back, because fuck,
did you were thinking there or was that your lasting year?
Speaker 5: Did you have anything else?
Speaker 4: I Mean, the only thing I could think of is
just the way that this movie just dives right in
right away to the action and just was consistent. I
liked that we didn't get any kind of room to
breathe because it was Spinosaurus and it was t Rex
and then Spinosaurus again and just non stop thrill ride
and then it ends with just this punch sound, and
like William H. Macy like stumbling backs into the bush
and Alan Grant like hole, miss fist, like got some
explaining to do, mister mister.
Speaker 1: Kirky, like even when they knock out on Grant. I
hate it's like a first person.
Speaker 5: View William H. Macy and he's like oh oh, and
he's like like, it's it's weird. I love that. It's
just hang on way too long, way too long.
Speaker 1: But you know, teacher, well, Taylor, you go, you were
kind of doing some of your last thoughts there, give
any more fun thoughts and give a rating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this movie, it it just has a lot of
things that I really really like. It's just a it's
a fun adventure, a really really good adventure. And uh,
there's never there's never a moment where I would not
go back and actually enjoy watching this. It's it's it's
definitely a movie I could see myself putting on in
the background when I doing something, but I'd easily catch
myself sitting down and watching through it, especially if it's
on TV, if someone else puts it on in a room,
like if I go over to podcasts at your place.
Travis and Emily has been playing. I'll probably like sit
down for like five minutes and watch it. So yeah,
it goes for everyone else.
Speaker 5: I don't know that's gonna be the case.
Speaker 2: That happens a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, every day, come home like again.
Speaker 4: But I'd probably give it like is a perfect movie. No,
And I can't give it that ten out of ten
because that's what the first one is definitely allotted to that.
But I will give it a nine point five out
of ten because this one's just it's I love it.
It's so good. One of my earliest memories in the
movie theaters is Revenge of the Sith and Jurassic Park three.
It's as far back as my memory goes.
Speaker 1: And yeah, doesn't remember any of the other prequel movies
and stuff like that, just Revenge the Sith. But yeah, no,
I'll I'll give this movie a six out of ten. Yeah,
it's right, that's a better score that it probably deserves.
But yeah, no, this movie, yeah I talked about last retro,
but yeah, it also has like a mini special place
my heart because this.
Speaker 5: Is the I remember.
Speaker 1: For my grandpa's birthday, I bought him a tickle of
my own money. We went to see it, and that's
the last movie I saw with him before he passed away.
Speaker 5: So they go, Carl. But what it gives me.
Speaker 4: Six out of ten And the last movie saw with
him before he died was it.
Speaker 5: Wasn't a good movie. My grandpa. I said, man, it sucks,
this is your last movie. And No, when I was
a kid, I fucking love this movie. This movie.
Speaker 1: Like like I said, I think until I was older
and I appreciate Drastic Park more. I definitely at one
point saw this more than the other two. But then
as I just I changed taste and you know, they
got better. I saw Drastic parkings like, fuck, this is
where it's at. Look at these great characters in this one.
But no, six out of ten, it's still passed. I said,
it's not the worst Durassic movie we've got in but
uh yeah, I I.
Speaker 5: It's a good movie. But like I said, usually I
give a seven to a movie that I know I'll
be watching quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I watched this one. When I do now where it's like,
let's watch the Jurassic Parks. I never feel like I
want to watch this. I feel like Jurassic Park and
even Jurassic World because it's kind of the rebooth of series.
I could find myself watching that as a one off,
but this one is pretty low on the ground on
the list. But still you got Sam Neil, and again
all my qualms against the thing is it's just some
of the writing and choices. He's still great in the
role and stuff like that. So I'll always watch it
because Okay, I got another.
Speaker 5: Sam Neil performance, and now we got three of them.
Speaker 1: So that's my thoughts, Jessica, I know you don't give
a rating, but any found thoughts on this one.
Speaker 3: This one is just it's fun.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: No, it's not the perfect movie one hundred percent, But
with Jurassic Park, the first one, you know, there's moments
where you kind of have to watch and be listening
and get all those nuances. But this one's fun. Like
you said, you can put it on in the background.
Look over and there's a t Rex, look over and
there's some bird shit. You can just you know, have
all these little moments that you don't have to necessarily
be paying attention. It's just a fun ride. And as
a kid that drew me into it. As an adult
still got me.
Speaker 5: There you go, Groom pats are end us off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still really like this movie, and that was
very surprised. As I was saying in the early portions
of this review or retro, was I was just so
expecting to be disappointed because I had fond memories of
this movie as a kid, and every time we have
revisited a movie like that, it's usually gone awful and
it's like, oh my gosh, never should have revisited this.
But I was puzzantly surprised that wasn't the case this
time around. This movie still holds up in my eyes.
I still really like it, and so yeah, I'm going
to give it an eight out of ten. I think
definitely some problems, but pretty high rate in there. I
think I had seven point five on Dressic World, Dirt,
Drassic Park two, Lost World, So yeah, I hold this
one a little bit higher than that one. So Ell Ellen,
Grant's great, and as I said, like all the sequences,
I think the execution was good in my eyes, So yeah.
Speaker 5: Get it t Well, there you go. There are next retro.
Speaker 1: It's our last one because we did Drastic, Grow Fall
and Kingdom, so we're just gonna re release that review.
But our next retro because it was came out right
before the podcast. Star was Jurassic World, so that started
a lot of memes with Taylor and tattoos and box
office records and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: So it'll be fun to revisit that I watch.
Speaker 1: I got about thirty five minutes left that, but uh yeah,
we'll be revisiting that, and then before you know, Jurassic
World Domini will be here. So thank you very much
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