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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes with Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you easy Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks very much, Madison. It has been a very interesting weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>that is for sure. My name is Dan Ray. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the host of Nightside. Feeling a little better medically than

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<v Speaker 1>I felt last week, but it's still not at one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. Rob Brooks hopefully is feeling absolutely at one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. He's back in the control room. Rob, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here all week I hope you are as well. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>got the A team here all week long, and you

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<v Speaker 1>are also part of the A team if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>regular listener here to Nightside, or even better yet a

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<v Speaker 1>regular caller. We have a lot to discuss. We very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest coming up at nine o'clock tonight, the President

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<v Speaker 1>of the International Teamsters, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, will

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<v Speaker 1>join us. Sean O'Brien. He's the general president of that organization.

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<v Speaker 1>He played a very significant role in the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four election. We'll discuss that role and how he feels

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration is doing. And certainly the timing could

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<v Speaker 1>not be better for a Trump administration. There's a report

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<v Speaker 1>that now Reuters has confirmed that there apparently will be

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<v Speaker 1>a ceasefire in the Middle East could take place even

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<v Speaker 1>before this show ends tonight. Quite a turnaround from Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>evening when all of us were sort of surprised and

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<v Speaker 1>shocked that that two week extension only was a two

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<v Speaker 1>day extension. And we'll have to see how this all transpires.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Donald Trump has played his cards right. We will

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<v Speaker 1>talk with Sean O'Brien about that, and they give you

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to weigh in a little bit later on tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>But first we have four really interesting guests, as we

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<v Speaker 1>always do in the first hour, and of course during

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<v Speaker 1>the first hour there are no phone calls, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can sit back, relax, put your feed up, enjoy your beverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it's a nice iced beverage of some sort, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty here in New England. With US is retired

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<v Speaker 1>Major General Bob Dees General Welcome. I need to salute you.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Good Dan good to be with night side.

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<v Speaker 1>I got his high up as back for it, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was saluting everybody, everybody who walked by. It didn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter. You're also with a great group called the

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<v Speaker 1>National Center for Healthy Veterans. I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about them, but before we do that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will save some time for us to talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>their great work. But as I said, before we do that,

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<v Speaker 1>like to get your sense as to what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a pretty fast moving story. We've gone from

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<v Speaker 1>bunker busting bombs we all were hearing about it about

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours ago at this time, to we may

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of a ceasefire according to President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on here? A lot of people and the

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<v Speaker 1>stock market did well today and oil prices dropped. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have won a lot of money on that sometime

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<v Speaker 1>betting on Saturday night about midnight.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, You're right. It's been fast moving, Dan, And just

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<v Speaker 2>six hours ago, you know, I would have predicted we'd

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about battle damage assessment and this and that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reality is, yes, it's been announced there's a

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<v Speaker 2>peace deal. Apparently the President Trump called Prime Minister net

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<v Speaker 2>and Yahoo and then some of the Vice President was

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<v Speaker 2>working with Iran and some of their representatives and so

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<v Speaker 2>apparently they've broke her to peace deal and it's supposed to,

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, take place about three four hours from now.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's pretty amazing. I think it does illustrate the

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<v Speaker 2>power of deterrence. You know, we went in strong, precise

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<v Speaker 2>accomplished the mission with you know, startling success to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody else just sort of saluted. As you were

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<v Speaker 2>referring to, Iran is sort of acting like a specialist

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<v Speaker 2>for right now to salute anything that walks by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, it's a little early to know exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>extent of the battle damage assessment because the targets were

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<v Speaker 1>buried underground. But I would think that the response of

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<v Speaker 1>Iran to engage in this ceasefire and also I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to make the US aware of when they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to fire a few missiles and at what time they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to fire a few missiles and no one

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<v Speaker 1>large of fourteen smaller missiles. I think that that response

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<v Speaker 1>might be a pretty good indication of how much damage

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<v Speaker 1>was done down below or am I misreading is now?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're probably accurate. My assessment was that Iran

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't been but they would break, you know, they would

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<v Speaker 2>just fly it into the ground until they had to submit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was certainly wrong about that, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's You're probably accurate that the true impact of what

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<v Speaker 2>we have done over the last forty eight hours has

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<v Speaker 2>really caused them to come to the table, and their

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<v Speaker 2>response in Qatar was tepid at best. And yeah, I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are reading into that, certainly weakness

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<v Speaker 2>but conciliation that they are really a defeated power and

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<v Speaker 2>they want to get the best deal they can now.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you agree? And just my last question is that

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<v Speaker 1>Israel's success in decapitating Hesba Llah a few months ago

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<v Speaker 1>going after Hamas in the Wig of October seventh, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the departure of the Aside family from Syria,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that I think the Hoodies have been

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<v Speaker 1>last last team standing. All of its proxies were off

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<v Speaker 1>the field and they were kind of naked to the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I totally agree. Iran, I mean, Israel in

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<v Speaker 2>military terms, set the conditions well ahead of time, as

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<v Speaker 2>they normally do years I had in advance in some cases, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that all the Iranian cards that surrogates were

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<v Speaker 2>taken off the table. My only caution, Dan would be

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<v Speaker 2>Iran has a lot of sleeper cells in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>and even if Iran folds, there may be some sleeper

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<v Speaker 2>cells that you know, make their last gasp, or some

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<v Speaker 2>people some lone wolf actions. And we're also seeing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of protests college campuses and things that around the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. So domestic threat is still you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>little alarming, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was funny, I explained to a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine on Saturday night who was very concerned that perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>this was a precursor to sort of an Archduke Ferdinand

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<v Speaker 1>type of repeat of history from about a one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven years ago, the start of War One. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, look, this prevented, This makes the world safer

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<v Speaker 1>from an outlaw nation possessing nuclear weaponry. This was this

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<v Speaker 1>was a conventional strike that I think has taken a

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<v Speaker 1>potential nuclear country off the playing field. And I view,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see I would think college campuses would be

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<v Speaker 1>up in arms congratulating the US military and President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>for what may apparently is going to be accomplished. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it is. Obviously I don't want to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>start to you know, celebrate too quickly here, but it

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<v Speaker 1>certainly things in the last forty typical. You expect people

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<v Speaker 1>to come out with the flags. I see the Iranian flags,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are just people who hate this country, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would, they would, they would, they would protest against

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration finding a cure for cancer. That's no

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<v Speaker 1>question about that. Okay, Let's talk more importantly for the

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<v Speaker 1>moment about the National Center for Healthy Veterans. We've done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on this program about returning veterans and the

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<v Speaker 1>issues that they faced, particularly those who were actually in

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<v Speaker 1>the line of fire during in warfare with live fire

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<v Speaker 1>going on around them. Tell Us, tell us about the group,

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<v Speaker 1>the National Center for Healthy Veterans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Dan, I'd say we're a unique national prototype. We're

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<v Speaker 2>a nine month residential program. Most programs are much shorter,

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<v Speaker 2>but we fight recidivism and we bring at risk veterans,

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<v Speaker 2>Veterans that are suicidal, Veterans that perhaps have been in

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<v Speaker 2>jail under bridges, veterans that are stuck in their parents'

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<v Speaker 2>basement playing video games, veterans that have had three jobs

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<v Speaker 2>in the last year that can't adjust. All these veterans

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<v Speaker 2>have tremendous potential, and so we help them do a

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<v Speaker 2>life free set over that time period. We're at healthy

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<v Speaker 2>veterans dot Org if people want to learn more. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the things I'd ask all your viewers, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to find the people. Most of the people we help

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be found. We need to find people

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<v Speaker 2>that are at risk, refer them to us. There's just

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<v Speaker 2>a button on the website that does that, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>get these people help. We have people from over twelve

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<v Speaker 2>different states and so we're a national organization that fills

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<v Speaker 2>a unique gap in our service for veterans overall. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate the shout out. We have a large what we

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<v Speaker 2>call a healing platform. But we have twenty five horses,

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and thirty nine acres, two hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five chickens that give us eighty dozen eggs a week.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a lot of dignified work. And we live

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<v Speaker 2>in community to defeed isolation, one of the primary causes

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<v Speaker 2>of veterans suicide. We have trauma recovery, life skills program as,

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<v Speaker 2>professional counseling, coaching, equine therapy. So it's a really powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>unique platform and people are We have one spin off

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, well, as a matter of fact, I'm noticing

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<v Speaker 1>here that you're an Alta Vista, Virginia at the at

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<v Speaker 1>Valor Farm, which is appropriately named. And you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing you're doing great work here and again the website

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be simpler. Healthy Veterans dot Org. I'm very much

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<v Speaker 1>involved with a couple of veterans groups, one of which

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<v Speaker 1>is Hope for the Veterans, Hope for the Warriors. I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, oh good that a friend of mine got

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<v Speaker 1>me involved in many many years ago, and we forget

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<v Speaker 1>what these men and women sacrifice when they volunteer to

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you saw your help veterans every way you can,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just ask all your listeners to do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Major General, I appreciate it very much. Hoped that

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<v Speaker 1>our optimism is well founded. Irrespective of political parties or

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<v Speaker 1>philosophical viewpoints. We want to keep our people safe. Extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>work by the military, the US Air Force on Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 1>that is for sure. That's an incredible story. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Major General. Appreciate it very much. I hope to have

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<v Speaker 1>you back. Let's get an update on this sum How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing a few months from now?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds good. Dan, good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care back at you, Major General retired Robert d'es.

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<v Speaker 1>back on Nightside. We're going to talk about summer shopping. Friends.

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<v Speaker 2>It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, summer has arrived in full force here in New England.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question the spring is over. We'll spring never happen, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but summer's here. It's packing a punch all across the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, about one hundred and ninety people under this

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<v Speaker 1>summer heat wave. So June twenty third with US is

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Kimminedding, USA Today's exec editorial director of Shopping. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty neat job. How are you, Casey's Kim and Eddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, nice to meet you. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it is gig.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that's that's one that I've met a lot

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<v Speaker 1>sure a lot of my listeners had their pens and

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure. So summer shopping is already picking up

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<v Speaker 4>like crazy. People are really shopping early, earlier and earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like for every season, holiday, you know, all

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<v Speaker 4>the events. So yeah, summer shopping. People are really excited

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<v Speaker 4>about back to school with maybe they I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to school. My parents ever were shopping from back

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<v Speaker 1>to school on June twenty third. I think I would

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<v Speaker 4>Ahead, right, No, I yeah, I agree, But yeah, the

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<v Speaker 4>people they know what they want. Definitely a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>like big ticket back to school items, so laptops, tablets,

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<v Speaker 4>need for when you're you know, in high school college,

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<v Speaker 4>And a lot of retailers are hosting huge sales already

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<v Speaker 4>so you can get a good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that they're not buying tablets and things like

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<v Speaker 1>at least the fifth or sixth grade. But go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>So we've we've depressed any sixth graders who are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to my show at this yes that they alway's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get mad at what what are the hot summer

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<v Speaker 1>items here? Barbecue, yeah, grills, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically right now, we have Amazon Prime Day coming

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<v Speaker 4>up in July and it's kind of a kickoff this summer.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's happening July eighth to the eleventh.

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<v Speaker 1>They're kicking it off on my birthday. Yeah right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll make that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to turn twenty I'm going to turn twenty

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, looks great.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you if you believe, if you believe that,

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<v Speaker 1>Casey have only teasing.

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<v Speaker 4>No, So we've we've seen a lot of early deals already.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I said, definitely, electronics are great, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>people are loving them. But the grills, the outdoor summer

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<v Speaker 4>products like portable chargers, speakers for your barbecue. Something that's

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<v Speaker 4>been popular is a digital meat.

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<v Speaker 3>Thermometer okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>For your barbecue, and you know, super affordable makes grilling

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I growed, I grilled, I grilled some steak,

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<v Speaker 1>tips last night. They were great, but at that point

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<v Speaker 1>I could have. But I'm doing it all by the look,

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<v Speaker 1>Now does this mean? And again, you really blew me

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<v Speaker 1>away when you said people doing back to school normally.

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<v Speaker 1>I think back to school mid August. There'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>second wave of back to school for them. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want any parents who are listening tonight, I think they've

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean, yeah, I remember back to school

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<v Speaker 4>shopping was right before school started end of August. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we were at Staples or wherever picking out markers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do push it. By the way, you made

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween decorations show up sometime around Labor Day, and Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>decorations now appear before Halloween. And it just seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that we are always in a rush to get

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a tough trend. Although again, push

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<v Speaker 1>is always going to be, you know, get him in

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<v Speaker 1>the tent and get him buy it. What's the single

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<v Speaker 1>best superby that you could recommend across the board. What

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen right now? Is that is that's almost

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, first I will say I agree. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, the sales and deals and shopping, it

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<v Speaker 4>starts earlier and earlier. But I will say, there's such

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<v Speaker 4>it's such a relief. Like personally, if I get my

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<v Speaker 4>holiday shopping done a month ahead of time, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I can relax and breathe. They don't have to be stressed.

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<v Speaker 4>So there definitely is like there's a benefit to get

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<v Speaker 1>Now I guess you were going on a Christmas card

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<v Speaker 1>list already or no project in a little shoe box

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. They got him done by about August. First,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, ok I really enjoyed. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have you back. You were fun to talk with.

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<v Speaker 1>USA Today's editorial director of Shopping, Casey Kim, and Eddie

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone goold love to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Casey, have a great night. Take

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<v Speaker 1>it easy. Rob. What are we doing here? Did we

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<v Speaker 1>did we miss an ABC News special? We don't? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's fine. We have our own newscast coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the other side of the newscast, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about quiet cracking. We're not talking about like taking eggs

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<v Speaker 1>and really gently cracking them. No, we're talking about what

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<v Speaker 1>is behind this new workplace threat. People are quiet cracking.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back and we'll be very honest about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming back on Night.

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<v Speaker 3>Side with Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, everything has a word. Everything, every action or

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<v Speaker 1>reaction can be characterized. Here's one I've never heard of before,

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<v Speaker 1>quiet cracking. What's behind this new work paid workplace threat. Well, Heather,

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<v Speaker 1>while she's a workplace expert, communications marketing professional who oversees

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<v Speaker 1>leadership lab that's for leadership training. What the heck is

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<v Speaker 1>quiet cracking? I think I know, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I'm not making an assumption. Welcome to Nightside, Heather.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>Quiet cracking, Yes, it's another term. Right, it's another thing

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<v Speaker 5>that we've got to figure out. But let me just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of unpack this for you really quickly. Quiet cracking.

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<v Speaker 5>It's those employees that used to be engaged. They still

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<v Speaker 5>like their job, though, however, they feel invisible, they feel unheard,

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<v Speaker 5>and they feel stuck where they are, So that that

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<v Speaker 5>is what quiet cracking is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, I think a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with all the venture capital companies that

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<v Speaker 1>are buying up companies and uh, you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>the formula of the of long ago where a company

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<v Speaker 1>existed and you knew the people who owned the company

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<v Speaker 1>and you work for them and all that. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>company has been bought by owner company. Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a theory that's totally off the wall as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you're concerned.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's off the wall that I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to delve a little bit deeper and say this much.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the bigger issue is and what I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 5>by private equity venture capitalist that kind of thing. What

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<v Speaker 5>happens is is there becomes a huge communication breakdown, like

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<v Speaker 5>the style the culture that a company once you know,

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<v Speaker 5>operated in shifts dramatically because people don't know what the

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<v Speaker 5>heck is going on. They don't understand the new culture.

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<v Speaker 5>And frankly, you know, private equity venture capital are working

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<v Speaker 5>so fast to try to figure out what culture is

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<v Speaker 5>that people feel lost, and that's where quiet cracking really

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<v Speaker 5>kind of comes into place as well too. People don't

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<v Speaker 5>feel heard, they don't feel seen or understood. And frankly,

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<v Speaker 5>leadership isn't communicating. There's not there's not a two way

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<v Speaker 5>communication module, so to speak. They're just directing and making

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<v Speaker 5>commands versus asking people how, you know, how can they

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<v Speaker 5>really solve this problem together as a team. It's more,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the top down leadership versus the bottom up style.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's so true. It's it's just, you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>it the way they want you to do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>even though you might know it's not the most efficient

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<v Speaker 1>way or it's not even the best way. If you jump,

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<v Speaker 1>if you jump up and you raise your hand and

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<v Speaker 1>can be characterized as a troublemaker. The other group who

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<v Speaker 1>I think, really we need to focus on the professional

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<v Speaker 1>being counters, the people that are making cuts. No, I'm serious,

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<v Speaker 5>I laugh because I work with a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I mean they had no idea what the

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<v Speaker 1>that company to really support and grow. All they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for is the bottom line. And if they can cut.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're told we can cut twenty two point four

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<v Speaker 1>just go through and cut twenty two point four percent,

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<v Speaker 1>not go in and find out the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>not pulling. Just twenty line them up. Yes, we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it alphabetically, every fifth person. I just where have I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this past get out of It's kind of out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>And what it does is it actually as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging people, discourages people. I tell all my friends in management,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell most employees would prefer to get a pat

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<v Speaker 1>on the back occasionally, maybe a positive comment, a job

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, as opposed to getting

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<v Speaker 1>a two point one percent pay raise. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sure good employees there to help the company and do

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<v Speaker 1>might have been able to make more money at another

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<v Speaker 1>job that they wouldn't particularly like. But now the job

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<v Speaker 1>It is a go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>It is and yes, and and and the way that

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<v Speaker 5>you and You're so right. It's not It's not always

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<v Speaker 5>about the paycheck. It's do I feel connected to this company?

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<v Speaker 5>Do I feel connected to these people that work within

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<v Speaker 5>Not everyone opens up the same way. You know, some

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<v Speaker 5>people are very direct and they just want that direct

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<v Speaker 5>prompt whereas some people only share when trust is being

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<v Speaker 5>built has been built, right, And then you talked about

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<v Speaker 5>the feedback, you know, they just want to add a boy.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'll go even further and say, people want feedback

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<v Speaker 5>that really matters at a boy because you did X,

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<v Speaker 5>Y Z and it meant this much to the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 5>like be specific with the ATA boys. I mean that

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<v Speaker 5>people from really meaningful feedback. And then you know, also

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<v Speaker 5>what I say, you know, co create those career paths

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<v Speaker 5>with the people on your teams as well too. Instead

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<v Speaker 5>of guessing what they want, you got to ask. You

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<v Speaker 5>got to have the conversations. And I feel like post pandemic,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we're doing a lot of checking of the

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<v Speaker 5>boxes about you know, have we done this training, have

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<v Speaker 5>we done this thing that HR wants us to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you having the conversations, are you making meaning in

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<v Speaker 5>those conversations, are you asking open ended questions? How are

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<v Speaker 5>you engaging the people on your on your teams? And

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<v Speaker 5>that's what people can do to really try to help

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<v Speaker 5>with this quiet cracking so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's I had an interesting experience last night. I

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<v Speaker 1>ran into a problem with my car, pulled into a

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<v Speaker 1>gas station late ten thirty at night, figuring that there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be nobody there to help me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>found this young guy who helped me as a mobile

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<v Speaker 1>gas station. Okay uh, and make a long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>he was unbelievably helpful, and I asked him what he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking to do, and he told me that he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to become a commercial airline Pilot's a pretty smart guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And he told me that he applied for a job

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<v Speaker 1>as a flight attendant and that because he had some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of I don't know, a little mark on one

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<v Speaker 1>of his the side of his face, that he was

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<v Speaker 1>turned down for that job. And I just thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a guy that went out of his way. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean to help me open up the hood. Let's check this,

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<v Speaker 1>let's check out, solve the problem for me. And some

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<v Speaker 1>knucklehead at some airline or some employment looking and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, the kid's a hitsive looking kid, but he

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<v Speaker 1>had some sort of I don't know it was a

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<v Speaker 1>birkemark or whatever, and they said, well, if you removed

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<v Speaker 1>the mark, then we could consider you. And I thought, what,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not your people, that's not that's not somebody that

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<v Speaker 5>you'd want to work for. Anyway, they just filled you

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<v Speaker 5>in quicker than what you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought, right, I guess, so save yourself some aggravation. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, I just think that American business,

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<v Speaker 1>UH is just heading down so many wrong paths that

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<v Speaker 1>I see, and I fear from my kids and I

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<v Speaker 1>fear from my grandchildren at this point that that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to just take this country and this economic system

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<v Speaker 1>that we have, which is the greatest economic system in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, which provides rewards for incentive and good work,

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<v Speaker 1>and we we're devaluing good work and we're basically allowing

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<v Speaker 1>being counters. I'll say it again being counters to run

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<v Speaker 1>the run the economy, which is a huge problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>please continue to do what you do, Heather, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever need anybody to talk to anyone, I'm just off.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I feel this. I feel very strongly about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I really Yeah, you could.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably tell it's a huge issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I interview people twenty hours a week on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can tell how many people really want to

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<v Speaker 1>succeed and want their company to succeed, and you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of them are not valued.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know, I know, I know, and it just gosh,

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<v Speaker 5>it just it breaks your heart, especially when you know

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<v Speaker 5>it's like there are things that people can do to

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<v Speaker 5>help these conversations and help what's going on. They just

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, at the end of the day, some of

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<v Speaker 5>these managers and senior leaders that I work with, things

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<v Speaker 5>have to get painful enough. Whereas it's affecting productivity, it's

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<v Speaker 5>affecting the bottom line where they actually reach out and go, Okay,

498
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<v Speaker 5>what the heck is going on and what am I

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<v Speaker 5>going to have to do? Differently with one client.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that, how can companies get in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>you to help, yeah, help themselves? Is you got a website,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, Oh I do.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's Heather Lyle l I s l E. So

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<v Speaker 5>the s a silo Heatherlyile dot com. Or I am

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<v Speaker 5>super active on LinkedIn as well to you and you

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<v Speaker 5>can find me at Heather Lyle co on LinkedIn and

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<v Speaker 5>post tons of content about this very topic. How to

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<v Speaker 5>be how to have those purposeful conversations, what it needs

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<v Speaker 5>to look like in the workplace so they can time

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<v Speaker 5>me there.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep doing what you're doing, because you sound like that

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<v Speaker 1>you have your your act together, and maybe you can

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<v Speaker 1>help some of the companies around the country get their

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<v Speaker 1>act together.

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<v Speaker 5>I love what I do. I love what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell it. I can tell in your voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell in your voice. Heather, thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>communication for having professional Heather Lyle l I s l

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<v Speaker 1>E dot com. Thanks Heather, we'll talk again. Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great night when we get back. When we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about scary headlines, we had some scary headlines over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, and a lot I'm sure that impacted a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. Can scary headlines make us sick? Sick?

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<v Speaker 1>Sick sick? How to minimize the health impact of negative

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<v Speaker 1>news cycle. We have a lot of negative news cycles.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Judith Orloff, best selling author of The Genius of Empathy,

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<v Speaker 1>a leading psychiatrist in the field of empathy, coming up

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<v Speaker 1>right after the break here on Nightside. You're on Nightside

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<v Speaker 1>with Dan Ray on YOUBZ, Boston's news radio. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>scary headlines? Can they make us sick? I think probably?

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<v Speaker 1>The question provides the answer with us is doctor Judith Orloff.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the best selling author of The Genius of Empathy,

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<v Speaker 1>a leading psychiatrist in the field of empathy. Empathy. We

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<v Speaker 1>all could use a little more empathy, that's for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Orloff. Welcome to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, It's nice to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to talk with you. So the headline is, can

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<v Speaker 1>scary headlines make us sick? We had some scary headlines

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of days. Looks like it might be

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<v Speaker 1>working out okay. But I'll bet you there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who who lost some sleep in the

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<v Speaker 1>last twenty four to forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm sure there are. There are so many people

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<v Speaker 3>who I've heard of who are feeling anxious or are depressed.

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<v Speaker 3>They have their stress hormones sowing in their body. The

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<v Speaker 3>adrenaline is soaring, which makes you very anxious, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it's just the anxiety and the nervous system of the

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<v Speaker 3>body is just being fed with too much adrenaline. And

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<v Speaker 3>so people are feeling anxious and wanting to have empathy

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<v Speaker 3>and wanting to care about all the people who are

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<v Speaker 3>in harm's way, but really caring too much. And so

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<v Speaker 3>it's important to learn how to set boundaries with your

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<v Speaker 3>empathies so you just don't become exhausted yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've worked as a TV reporter for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time in the seventies, eighties, nineties, and well into the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, and I blame television news, particularly local television news.

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<v Speaker 1>Every is breaking news, breaking news. There's breaking news. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a car crash somewhere. It affects people who are in

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<v Speaker 1>the car, but it doesn't affect anyone else. There's breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a two alarm fire. Sad for the people whose

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<v Speaker 1>houses on fire. But I don't really consider And of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's television news consultants who have told the TV

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<v Speaker 1>news directors just keep throwing that breaking news people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like, I don't know, it's almost like Pavlov's dog

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<v Speaker 1>or the mice that they run. They give them a

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<v Speaker 1>little sweetener and they like it and they want more

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<v Speaker 1>and more. Next thing, the mouse weighs eleven pounds. I mean, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you buy that? Or do you just because

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<v Speaker 1>people get locked on their teev Oh my god, there's

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<v Speaker 1>civil war here. Oh my god, there is this going

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<v Speaker 1>there's an earthquake. Whoa yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think as a psychiatrist, what I see is that

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<v Speaker 3>people are being made ill by the news because they're

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<v Speaker 3>transfixed by the drama of it and the danger of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, seeing fellow humans getting hurt is very

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<v Speaker 3>hard to watch for carrying people, and so those with

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<v Speaker 3>empathy often get hurt the most. And so it's very

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<v Speaker 3>important that you limit your news input and have some

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<v Speaker 3>time for life and other things so you could balance

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on the world. It's important to be informed

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<v Speaker 3>as to what's happening, but there's a limit to how

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<v Speaker 3>much I would advise my patience to watch the news.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's important to be able to have enjoyment in

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<v Speaker 3>life that isn't destroyed by the drama and the horrors

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<v Speaker 3>of the news.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I think about last last year,

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this year, the earlier this year actually January the fires,

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<v Speaker 1>the horrific fires outside of Los Angeles, and oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody looked at that, but unless you lived in that

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<v Speaker 1>portion of California, it wasn't going to affect you. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time it was it was heartbreaking. And

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<v Speaker 1>do we become almost addicted to bad news? Does it

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<v Speaker 1>make us feel psychologically going to ask you a psychological question,

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<v Speaker 1>does it make us feel better to realize maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're luckier than the poor people who have lost all

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<v Speaker 1>their homes outside of Los Angeles. Is there that element

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<v Speaker 1>of it, the fact that we weren't on that plane

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<v Speaker 1>that crashed the other day in India.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think there is that element of it, and

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<v Speaker 3>that it makes you more grateful for your own life

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<v Speaker 3>and your own health and your own safety. I live

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<v Speaker 3>in Los Angeles, so I went through the fires, and

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<v Speaker 3>I lived fairly close to the fires, so it was

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<v Speaker 3>extremely devastating what was happening in here. But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 3>for those who are elsewhere, you know, I really implore

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<v Speaker 3>you to take care of yourself and not get absorbed

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<v Speaker 3>in the trauma or the pain that's going on in

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<v Speaker 3>various parts of the world now because there's so much

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<v Speaker 3>of it and the human body can't hold up with

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<v Speaker 3>that if you keep looking at it. So it's important

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<v Speaker 3>to look at beautiful things too. It's important to look

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<v Speaker 3>up at the sky and the stars. It's important to

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<v Speaker 3>take a walk. It's important, you know, to do something

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<v Speaker 3>positive for your own self care, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 3>midst of everything that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The other thing too, that people could do. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me, and I'm not a psychiatrist, but people

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<v Speaker 1>will sit transfixed looking at for example, what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on in Los Angeles and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and well, you know, send a check for fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to the Salvation Army or the United Way or some

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<v Speaker 1>group that's trying to help these poor people. Well, Betty, yet,

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<v Speaker 1>go take take a walk down the street. Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a neighbor that all their children have left and they're lonely, Gwynn,

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<v Speaker 1>and you offer to go have a cup of coffee

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<v Speaker 1>with them or something. Do something that helps someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>spend a little bit of time away from the TV

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<v Speaker 1>set and do something that will make you feel better

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. You know, it's been proven that when you do

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<v Speaker 3>good to others, that your biochemistry gets soothed, and that

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<v Speaker 3>your endorsements the natural painkillers start slowly, and that your

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<v Speaker 3>empathy feeds you rather than drains you. So paying it

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<v Speaker 3>forward is a way to feel good about yourself and

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<v Speaker 3>to respond to the news, to be able to do

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<v Speaker 3>something positive.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, Yeah, absolutely well, doctor Oloff, very nice

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<v Speaker 1>to talk with you. Your book is called The Genius

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<v Speaker 1>of Empathy that I assume is still available.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely, it's available on Amazon, it's available and all bookstores.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's about learning how to express empathy, but

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<v Speaker 3>again set boundaries and take care of yourself too well.

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<v Speaker 1>Very parallel virtues, let's put it like that, Doctor Judith

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<v Speaker 1>or author, best selling author of The Genius of Empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for joining us tonight and spreading

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<v Speaker 1>the word that people need to take some time for

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and get away from the TV sets. Thanks so much, doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it very much.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we get back when we talk with the

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<v Speaker 1>president of the International Teamsters Union, the Brotherhood of Teamsters

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<v Speaker 1>about one point three million union members, Sean O'Brien, the

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Guy, Greater Boston Guy, let put it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of a homecoming for Shan O'Brien.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on tonight, we'll bring up to the latest as

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<v Speaker 1>to what's going on in the Middle East, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would appear, matter of fact, it may actually be a

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<v Speaker 1>reality that is turning out better than anyone could have expected.

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<v Speaker 1>We will explain through the nine o'clock news here on

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside
