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<v Speaker 1>You're listenings KFI AM six forty The Bill Handles show

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iHeartRadio app. This is KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty Bill Handle here on a tech Tuesday, September

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, twenty twenty four. Okay, it is time for

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<v Speaker 1>Tech Tuesday with Rich the Mureau, host of Rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech here on KFI Saturdays eleven am to two pm.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kfi's tech Guy. In addition KTLA's Tech Guy Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>at Rich on Tech Website, rich on tech dot TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you. Bill.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, happy Tuesday, although you know Tuesday's ever happy for me?

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<v Speaker 2>But what the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Altman, who is the founder of chat GPT, shared

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<v Speaker 1>some thoughts on AI. He was just coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>a he was coming back from an auction to see

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<v Speaker 1>if you want by Pakistan because he has so much money,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked about deep learning and how it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to change our world and how jobs are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be affected.

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<v Speaker 2>So deep learning jobs being affected? What did he mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think this is interesting because he's calling it

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<v Speaker 3>the intelligence age. And in fact, he put a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a painting on his little blog post, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like looks like the Renaissance. So I guess he's putting

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<v Speaker 3>this in the same category as a major world shift

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<v Speaker 3>that we are in right now. And so he talks

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<v Speaker 3>about why he believes this is the case, and he

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<v Speaker 3>thinks that this idea of deep learning where computers can

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<v Speaker 3>actually understand things and draw conclusions has actually worked after

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<v Speaker 3>all these years of trying, and he believes it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to make previously magical capabilities a reality within decades. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it might be sooner than that. Obviously, he thinks

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<v Speaker 3>it will be very quick. He sees a world where

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<v Speaker 3>we will have personal AI teams to help us accomplish things,

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<v Speaker 3>virtual tutors for students, so if you have a problem

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<v Speaker 3>in class, you will have the most personal virtual tutor

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<v Speaker 3>you can ever imagine. Healthcare, software development, significant improvements. There

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<v Speaker 3>increased prosperity because of all of this, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's already happened for him, like you alluded to. But

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<v Speaker 3>he did say that there will be labor market disruptions,

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<v Speaker 3>there will be jobs lost, but he believes in the

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<v Speaker 3>end people will find a way and there will be

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<v Speaker 3>new jobs created.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that makes sense because the computer age

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<v Speaker 1>came in and jobs would be lost and at manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>jobs were lost because of robotics and we've been able

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<v Speaker 1>to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>That is he one of those people in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Of AI that is frightened of where AI can go

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<v Speaker 1>or is going.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I think he understands that it

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<v Speaker 3>does have potential downsides, and I think he's talked about that,

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<v Speaker 3>and he talks about, you know, minimizing the harms of

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<v Speaker 3>AI and things like that. But I think he is

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<v Speaker 3>one of these people that is just full throttle, wants

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<v Speaker 3>to go full speed ahead, and you know, more so

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<v Speaker 3>than someone like an Elon Musk, who is a little

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<v Speaker 3>I think he wants to go full speed ahead as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he is much more vocal about the

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<v Speaker 3>dangers of AI, especially when someone starts to put AI

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<v Speaker 3>into a robot body. And I know that sounds silly,

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<v Speaker 3>but that is the goal of all this is to

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<v Speaker 3>literally recreate the human smarter, more capable than ever, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is the goal, the ultimate goal of all this

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<v Speaker 3>AI stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. Yeah. I mean, we think of and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows this.

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<v Speaker 1>The first rule of robotics robots will do no harm

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<v Speaker 1>to humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Rule number two. Rule number one is a croc. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>robots are gonna kill us all.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you frightened at all about where AI is going?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you one of those naysayers? Not not necessarily a naysayer,

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<v Speaker 1>but scared of the possibility of the negative aspects of AI?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I am aware of how much it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to change things, So of course I think about the

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<v Speaker 3>possibilities of where this can go, especially when it takes

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<v Speaker 3>on almost a human shape. We're creating things that are superhuman,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's it's we're equipping people with tools and things

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<v Speaker 3>that they've never had before, even you know, something as

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<v Speaker 3>simple as a self driving car. I think there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>implications of that when it comes to hacking, when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to how this stuff is used, because yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>main companies like Google said, you know, they used to

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<v Speaker 3>say do no evil. I think they wipe that from

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<v Speaker 3>their blog at this point, are their manifesto whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, there's always going to be

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<v Speaker 3>people that use this for evil, And that is the

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<v Speaker 3>scary part is that you know the average person, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they just want to get a better grade on their test,

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<v Speaker 3>or help them write a presentation, or their car drives

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<v Speaker 3>them to the grocery store or whatever. That's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be amazing. But the people that are using this for

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<v Speaker 3>evil things, I mean, imagine you just program every car

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<v Speaker 3>to run into a wall. I mean, that's the problem,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and there will be people who try to

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<v Speaker 3>do that, and everything's getting highly automated and highly AI

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<v Speaker 3>and that is a real possibility of where things go all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Rich you tried on snapchats new augmented reality glasses,

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<v Speaker 1>how reality and how augmented?

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<v Speaker 3>Very well, well, it's very real and very augmented. So

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<v Speaker 3>these look like oversized sunglasses, so they're big, they have

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<v Speaker 3>thick stems, kind of thick glasses. But what's neat about

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<v Speaker 3>them is that they're all in one, so there's no

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<v Speaker 3>cables and basically inside the lenses there is a see

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<v Speaker 3>through screen that augments information on top of the world

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<v Speaker 3>around you. So you know, for many years us in

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<v Speaker 3>the tech world or any you know, anyone thinking in

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<v Speaker 3>the future has imagined that you'd walk around and see

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<v Speaker 3>information while you're walking right, like if someone's name or

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, if you're taking a map so you

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<v Speaker 3>can take a left it they'll show you that arrow

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<v Speaker 3>right on the world in front of you. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is the closest I've ever seen to that. The problem

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<v Speaker 3>is they're big, they're bulky, They're very simple for now,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean full color inside video and pictures. The battery

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<v Speaker 3>life doesn't last very long. But if they can get

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<v Speaker 3>these things smaller, the battery life longer and the price down,

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<v Speaker 3>we might finally have glasses where you just literally look

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<v Speaker 3>through the screen and see information.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So a couple questions about that when they

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<v Speaker 1>first came out, and I forget the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>first reality augmented reality glasses to now, how has the

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<v Speaker 1>technology evolved?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's gotten The video has gotten clearer,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can see the video better, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's just they've gotten smaller, like less bulky. But the

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<v Speaker 3>thing is most of the technology out there is focused

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<v Speaker 3>on virtual reality goggles. So these big, giant goggles that

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<v Speaker 3>envelope your entire head. I think the difference here is

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<v Speaker 3>that they're working on something that looks more like sunglasses,

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<v Speaker 3>more like what Meta is doing with their ray Band

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<v Speaker 3>Story sunglasses. But those don't have augmented reality. Those just

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<v Speaker 3>capture pictures and videos and have speakers on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I would think that the future.

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<v Speaker 1>To put all of that together would be glass sunglass

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<v Speaker 1>sized goggles that just do a wrap around and effectively

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<v Speaker 1>they would be a ray band that wraps around and

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<v Speaker 1>to hits your ear. And you get all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to ask you how expensive they are

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<v Speaker 1>right now? And what else?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you say? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>No, nailed it. That's it. The idea is to get

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<v Speaker 3>these as small as a standard size of ray bands,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're close. I mean, the battery is still big,

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<v Speaker 3>the battery is still very you know, short lived. But

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<v Speaker 3>right now, these that they're they're coming out with from

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<v Speaker 3>Snap are mostly aimed towards developers and creators, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have to rent them, so it's ninety nine dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 3>one year minimum, and I don't think you get to

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<v Speaker 3>keep them after that. But yeah, this is mainly for

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<v Speaker 3>developers to play with these and come up with like

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<v Speaker 3>a killer app. I can think of one. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're walking around, you know, it just gives you information,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, where you're walking, It gives your notifications on

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<v Speaker 3>your you know, basically in your line of sight. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the idea here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'm a little confused.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you're walking around and you're walking through

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever scenario, and at the same time, you're

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<v Speaker 1>now looking ahead of you and you see what is

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<v Speaker 1>effectively a heads up display giving all the information.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you not fall down?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because it's it's actually you're unlike the app vision pro,

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<v Speaker 3>you're actually seeing the world and you're actually seeing it

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<v Speaker 3>through your own eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm walking from here to the bathroom and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I'm staring straight ahead and all

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<v Speaker 1>its informations in front of me. How do I not

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<v Speaker 1>bump into the wall or fall into the toilet? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't quite get that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I put them on, you're very much aware

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<v Speaker 3>of your surroundings. You can walk around. I played basketball

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<v Speaker 3>in them. I mean it's it's very much just glasses

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<v Speaker 3>that have information in the you know, in your field

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<v Speaker 3>of vision. So it's quite natural actually to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to still see while you have these on. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think you know number one, like if you're walking down

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<v Speaker 3>the street and you're following maps right now, you're bringing

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<v Speaker 3>your phone up, you're looking at your watch, this would

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<v Speaker 3>just overlay an arrow to say turn left up ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>and it would be placed up ahead. It wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, when I am walking ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>I am looking at a Google map or whatever, I

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<v Speaker 1>do fall in the toilet simply because it multitasking like

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<v Speaker 1>that is difficult for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering if other people who are the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's finish up with the Russian anti virus program

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<v Speaker 1>which and I'm looking at the headline switched on overnight

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<v Speaker 1>that right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this was banned by US regulators as of September thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 3>so people that had this Keospersky anti virus on their computers.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, hold on, I'm sorry about that. My dogs

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<v Speaker 2>around here, I have to get rid of them. See

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<v Speaker 2>this is live radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, all right, you got dogs in the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>This is today.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I still on air? So I just continue telling

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<v Speaker 3>the story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Rick, just go ahead, And why don't you plug.

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<v Speaker 4>Your newsletter which is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you. Newsletter is at rich on tech dot tv.

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<v Speaker 2>And tricks.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I missed all of that because I

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever you said, I'm greatly appreciative of. Thank you, Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done this story before, and I love this story

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<v Speaker 2>I can neither confirm nor do you stop that you

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not supposed to point out Klono. Okay, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course, there's stuff like that that goes yea

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<v Speaker 1>For example, I had a little bit of an issue

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<v Speaker 1>It's also for research because you need that research to

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<v Speaker 2>You have to know that. I understand. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be stupid enough to do what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that they're looking at you, and know

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<v Speaker 2>For legitimate reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, a lot of these chat groups are saying, we

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<v Speaker 2>But let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>we from a company being able to effectively hack without

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<v Speaker 1>being a hacker and go into based on your information

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<v Speaker 1>the company has and go into much more private information

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<v Speaker 4>If they pay for your phone and they and that

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<v Speaker 4>you were working on their computers, they have access to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Any I understand they have access. But let's take it

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<v Speaker 1>How far away are we from a company being able

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<v Speaker 1>social Security number, they know where you live, they probably

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<v Speaker 1>have your driver's license. You had to give them the

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<v Speaker 1>You had to give them an information. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>show our passports for example, to show citizenship. Certainly I

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<v Speaker 4>With a social I've worked with private investigators many times.

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<v Speaker 4>They're professionally for the station and beyond, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>Lesbian from venus dot com is the website to go to,

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<v Speaker 2>go someplace. Little fingers got the look that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we should look that up and report on it

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back. Because I know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said, you come up with the craziest ass topic

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<v Speaker 1>statement you could ever make, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was just about.

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<v Speaker 1>To share a few of them, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, buddy, all right, before we go, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>heard the promo, by the way, before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>the race between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris as to

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<v Speaker 1>how crazy financially economically each one is. There's hopscotching in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of figuring out who is worse. A quick one

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<v Speaker 1>about one more time, Amy and Neil of your charity

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<v Speaker 1>coming up on Friday for the Union Rescue Mission. Very quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going over the edge repelling twenty five stories down

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<v Speaker 5>the Universal Hilton. We're raising money for the Union Rescue Mission.

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<v Speaker 5>Eighty six percent of the money donated goes directly to

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, And the easy website just go to just help

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<v Speaker 4>and the number one just help one dot org, Just

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<v Speaker 4>help one dot org and you'll see the iHeartMedia team

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<v Speaker 4>and you just click on that and you'll see Amy

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a great cause. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty six percent, by the way, goes directly. The other

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen percent is for drugs and alcohol. From what I understand.

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<v Speaker 5>They need our help. They get no government funding because

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<v Speaker 2>Do it out, so they do it out on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, moving on, you're a bad person, Bill Handle.

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<v Speaker 4>For everyone who thinks Bill Handles a bad person, just

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<v Speaker 5>Our goal of five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I know you're a little bit behind, so

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<v Speaker 1>today I'm jumping in becaus to everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been very Our listeners are great, and we appre

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<v Speaker 4>shade every little bit they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where you're gonna tell me I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Is if I am part of asking people to donate

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<v Speaker 1>money to whatever cause I have to donate, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>ask you to donate without me jumping into it.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean you're a good guy. No, you're right, Ay,

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<v Speaker 2>No I am. That's a good point. I still good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, that's fair, that's fair. And then the only

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<v Speaker 1>issue is how much do I donate? Because the response

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<v Speaker 1>usually is no, not a thank you, not a hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's come on, Bill, really, I mean, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think two bucks gets you? You know it's today, It

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<v Speaker 1>gets you half a cup of coffee at Starbucks. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not even a third of a cup of coffee at

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<v Speaker 1>Starbucks if I'm not mistaken. Now, what I would be

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll probably do this tomorrow. And this has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with Trump's call for a two hundred percent tariff

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<v Speaker 1>on John Deere. He was in Dubuque, Iowa, where John

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, this is going to save your jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>And okay, possibly Mark Cuban, by the way, who happens

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<v Speaker 1>Mavericks and is pretty close to a billionaire, says this

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. This is completely nuts, all right? So Trump

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<v Speaker 2>Is she nuts?

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<v Speaker 1>Economically speaking? Absolutely? Both of them are insane. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would use the word pandering as opposed to legitimate economic

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<v Speaker 1>thing and programs. Okay, so we're done, and I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>that tomorrow. Because there's a lot to be said. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>for handle on the law.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Giving you marginal legal advice where I tell you have

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely no case and it is a show of humiliation

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not you to me, that's me to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you find it astounding that people still call Neil

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<v Speaker 1>a just every Saturday? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll have someone who is We have a

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<v Speaker 1>trust or a will. I go, hey, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>do this quickly because you're going to die by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this phone call.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you understand let's speed this up?

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<v Speaker 4>If they have doing it to get through all that

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<v Speaker 4>garbage to get good advice would be one thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>So it's eight seven seven five to two zero eleven

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<v Speaker 2>And there are no breaks, there are no commercials, there is.

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<v Speaker 1>No weather, there's no news, and there certainly is no

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<v Speaker 1>patience from me. So it's eight seven seven, five two

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we come back tomorrow all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>We do this starting with wake up call, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>with Amy five to six, Neil and I join a

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<v Speaker 1>board at six, we go six to nine, and then

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<v Speaker 1>of course Ann and Kno are always there somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the building. This is KFI AM six forty live everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Catch My Show Monday through Friday six am to nine am,

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