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Speaker 1: six forty Bill Handle here on a tech Tuesday, September
Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty twenty four. Okay, it is time for
Speaker 1: Tech Tuesday with Rich the Mureau, host of Rich on
Speaker 1: Tech here on KFI Saturdays eleven am to two pm.
Speaker 1: He's kfi's tech Guy. In addition KTLA's Tech Guy Instagram
Speaker 1: at Rich on Tech Website, rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you. Bill.
Speaker 3: Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Oh, happy Tuesday, although you know Tuesday's ever happy for me?
Speaker 2: But what the hell?
Speaker 1: Sam Altman, who is the founder of chat GPT, shared
Speaker 1: some thoughts on AI. He was just coming back from
Speaker 1: a he was coming back from an auction to see
Speaker 1: if you want by Pakistan because he has so much money,
Speaker 1: and he talked about deep learning and how it's going
Speaker 1: to change our world and how jobs are going to
Speaker 1: be affected.
Speaker 2: So deep learning jobs being affected? What did he mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think this is interesting because he's calling it
Speaker 3: the intelligence age. And in fact, he put a kind
Speaker 3: of a painting on his little blog post, kind of
Speaker 3: like looks like the Renaissance. So I guess he's putting
Speaker 3: this in the same category as a major world shift
Speaker 3: that we are in right now. And so he talks
Speaker 3: about why he believes this is the case, and he
Speaker 3: thinks that this idea of deep learning where computers can
Speaker 3: actually understand things and draw conclusions has actually worked after
Speaker 3: all these years of trying, and he believes it's going
Speaker 3: to make previously magical capabilities a reality within decades. I
Speaker 3: think it might be sooner than that. Obviously, he thinks
Speaker 3: it will be very quick. He sees a world where
Speaker 3: we will have personal AI teams to help us accomplish things,
Speaker 3: virtual tutors for students, so if you have a problem
Speaker 3: in class, you will have the most personal virtual tutor
Speaker 3: you can ever imagine. Healthcare, software development, significant improvements. There
Speaker 3: increased prosperity because of all of this, and I think
Speaker 3: that's already happened for him, like you alluded to. But
Speaker 3: he did say that there will be labor market disruptions,
Speaker 3: there will be jobs lost, but he believes in the
Speaker 3: end people will find a way and there will be
Speaker 3: new jobs created.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes sense because the computer age
Speaker 1: came in and jobs would be lost and at manufacturing
Speaker 1: jobs were lost because of robotics and we've been able
Speaker 1: to survive.
Speaker 2: That is he one of those people in the world.
Speaker 1: Of AI that is frightened of where AI can go
Speaker 1: or is going.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think he understands that it
Speaker 3: does have potential downsides, and I think he's talked about that,
Speaker 3: and he talks about, you know, minimizing the harms of
Speaker 3: AI and things like that. But I think he is
Speaker 3: one of these people that is just full throttle, wants
Speaker 3: to go full speed ahead, and you know, more so
Speaker 3: than someone like an Elon Musk, who is a little
Speaker 3: I think he wants to go full speed ahead as well.
Speaker 3: But I think he is much more vocal about the
Speaker 3: dangers of AI, especially when someone starts to put AI
Speaker 3: into a robot body. And I know that sounds silly,
Speaker 3: but that is the goal of all this is to
Speaker 3: literally recreate the human smarter, more capable than ever, and
Speaker 3: that is the goal, the ultimate goal of all this
Speaker 3: AI stuff.
Speaker 2: It really is. Yeah. I mean, we think of and
Speaker 2: everybody knows this.
Speaker 1: The first rule of robotics robots will do no harm
Speaker 1: to humans.
Speaker 2: Rule number two. Rule number one is a croc. Of course,
Speaker 2: robots are gonna kill us all.
Speaker 1: Are you frightened at all about where AI is going?
Speaker 1: Are you one of those naysayers? Not not necessarily a naysayer,
Speaker 1: but scared of the possibility of the negative aspects of AI?
Speaker 3: I think I am aware of how much it's going
Speaker 3: to change things, So of course I think about the
Speaker 3: possibilities of where this can go, especially when it takes
Speaker 3: on almost a human shape. We're creating things that are superhuman,
Speaker 3: and it's it's we're equipping people with tools and things
Speaker 3: that they've never had before, even you know, something as
Speaker 3: simple as a self driving car. I think there's there's
Speaker 3: implications of that when it comes to hacking, when it
Speaker 3: comes to how this stuff is used, because yeah, the
Speaker 3: main companies like Google said, you know, they used to
Speaker 3: say do no evil. I think they wipe that from
Speaker 3: their blog at this point, are their manifesto whatever it is.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, there's always going to be
Speaker 3: people that use this for evil, And that is the
Speaker 3: scary part is that you know the average person, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they just want to get a better grade on their test,
Speaker 3: or help them write a presentation, or their car drives
Speaker 3: them to the grocery store or whatever. That's going to
Speaker 3: be amazing. But the people that are using this for
Speaker 3: evil things, I mean, imagine you just program every car
Speaker 3: to run into a wall. I mean, that's the problem,
Speaker 3: you know, and there will be people who try to
Speaker 3: do that, and everything's getting highly automated and highly AI
Speaker 3: and that is a real possibility of where things go all.
Speaker 1: Right, Rich you tried on snapchats new augmented reality glasses,
Speaker 1: how reality and how augmented?
Speaker 3: Very well, well, it's very real and very augmented. So
Speaker 3: these look like oversized sunglasses, so they're big, they have
Speaker 3: thick stems, kind of thick glasses. But what's neat about
Speaker 3: them is that they're all in one, so there's no
Speaker 3: cables and basically inside the lenses there is a see
Speaker 3: through screen that augments information on top of the world
Speaker 3: around you. So you know, for many years us in
Speaker 3: the tech world or any you know, anyone thinking in
Speaker 3: the future has imagined that you'd walk around and see
Speaker 3: information while you're walking right, like if someone's name or
Speaker 3: just you know, if you're taking a map so you
Speaker 3: can take a left it they'll show you that arrow
Speaker 3: right on the world in front of you. So this
Speaker 3: is the closest I've ever seen to that. The problem
Speaker 3: is they're big, they're bulky, They're very simple for now,
Speaker 3: I mean full color inside video and pictures. The battery
Speaker 3: life doesn't last very long. But if they can get
Speaker 3: these things smaller, the battery life longer and the price down,
Speaker 3: we might finally have glasses where you just literally look
Speaker 3: through the screen and see information.
Speaker 1: All right, So a couple questions about that when they
Speaker 1: first came out, and I forget the name of the
Speaker 1: first reality augmented reality glasses to now, how has the
Speaker 1: technology evolved?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's gotten The video has gotten clearer,
Speaker 3: so you can see the video better, and I think
Speaker 3: it's just they've gotten smaller, like less bulky. But the
Speaker 3: thing is most of the technology out there is focused
Speaker 3: on virtual reality goggles. So these big, giant goggles that
Speaker 3: envelope your entire head. I think the difference here is
Speaker 3: that they're working on something that looks more like sunglasses,
Speaker 3: more like what Meta is doing with their ray Band
Speaker 3: Story sunglasses. But those don't have augmented reality. Those just
Speaker 3: capture pictures and videos and have speakers on them.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I would think that the future.
Speaker 1: To put all of that together would be glass sunglass
Speaker 1: sized goggles that just do a wrap around and effectively
Speaker 1: they would be a ray band that wraps around and
Speaker 1: to hits your ear. And you get all of that,
Speaker 1: And I want to ask you how expensive they are
Speaker 1: right now? And what else?
Speaker 2: Did you say? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, nailed it. That's it. The idea is to get
Speaker 3: these as small as a standard size of ray bands,
Speaker 3: and they're close. I mean, the battery is still big,
Speaker 3: the battery is still very you know, short lived. But
Speaker 3: right now, these that they're they're coming out with from
Speaker 3: Snap are mostly aimed towards developers and creators, and you
Speaker 3: have to rent them, so it's ninety nine dollars a month,
Speaker 3: one year minimum, and I don't think you get to
Speaker 3: keep them after that. But yeah, this is mainly for
Speaker 3: developers to play with these and come up with like
Speaker 3: a killer app. I can think of one. You know,
Speaker 3: if you're walking around, you know, it just gives you information,
Speaker 3: you know, where you're walking, It gives your notifications on
Speaker 3: your you know, basically in your line of sight. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's the idea here.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm a little confused.
Speaker 1: So let's say you're walking around and you're walking through
Speaker 1: you know, whatever scenario, and at the same time, you're
Speaker 1: now looking ahead of you and you see what is
Speaker 1: effectively a heads up display giving all the information.
Speaker 2: How do you not fall down?
Speaker 3: Well, because it's it's actually you're unlike the app vision pro,
Speaker 3: you're actually seeing the world and you're actually seeing it
Speaker 3: through your own eyes.
Speaker 2: No, I understand that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you know.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm walking from here to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm staring straight ahead and all
Speaker 1: its informations in front of me. How do I not
Speaker 1: bump into the wall or fall into the toilet? I
Speaker 1: don't quite get that.
Speaker 3: Well, when I put them on, you're very much aware
Speaker 3: of your surroundings. You can walk around. I played basketball
Speaker 3: in them. I mean it's it's very much just glasses
Speaker 3: that have information in the you know, in your field
Speaker 3: of vision. So it's quite natural actually to be able
Speaker 3: to still see while you have these on. And I
Speaker 3: think you know number one, like if you're walking down
Speaker 3: the street and you're following maps right now, you're bringing
Speaker 3: your phone up, you're looking at your watch, this would
Speaker 3: just overlay an arrow to say turn left up ahead,
Speaker 3: and it would be placed up ahead. It wouldn't be
Speaker 3: placed right in front of your eyes.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And by the way, when I am walking ahead and
Speaker 1: I am looking at a Google map or whatever, I
Speaker 1: do fall in the toilet simply because it multitasking like
Speaker 1: that is difficult for me.
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if other people who are the same.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's finish up with the Russian anti virus program
Speaker 1: which and I'm looking at the headline switched on overnight
Speaker 1: that right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was banned by US regulators as of September thirtieth,
Speaker 3: so people that had this Keospersky anti virus on their computers.
Speaker 2: All right, hold on, I'm sorry about that. My dogs
Speaker 2: around here, I have to get rid of them. See
Speaker 2: this is live radio.
Speaker 3: Hold on, all right, you got dogs in the studio.
Speaker 2: This is today.
Speaker 3: Am I still on air? So I just continue telling
Speaker 3: the story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rick, just go ahead, And why don't you plug.
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Speaker 2: Got it.
Speaker 1: By the way, I missed all of that because I
Speaker 1: was kicking my dogs out the door.
Speaker 2: But whatever you said, I'm greatly appreciative of. Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 2: All right, Rich, We'll catch you again next Tuesday. Take care. Okay.
Speaker 1: I've done this story before, and I love this story
Speaker 1: because I you are caught up in this and this
Speaker 1: happens to be with the question is there any safe
Speaker 1: place to complain about work online? Oh? The quick answer
Speaker 1: is no, and the slow answer is no. There is
Speaker 1: no safe place. If you are crazy enough to use
Speaker 1: your company's computers and or servers, they're looking at you,
Speaker 1: and even worse a I can now get involved, and
Speaker 1: we'll get involved. Now, are there legitimate reasons for a
Speaker 1: company to look at what you're saying your chats?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you've been, for example, accused of some criminal
Speaker 1: or malfeasons. Yeah, But if you're unhappy at work, is
Speaker 1: that legitimate? Let's say they want to look at how
Speaker 1: you're treating customers? Is that legitimate?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: The easy stuff is like here and the policy that
Speaker 1: we have here at KFI, for example, who's ever crazy
Speaker 1: enough to look at porno during the day, even during
Speaker 1: breaks or lunch on the company servers, is completely out
Speaker 1: of his or her mind. We've had those issues, haven't
Speaker 1: we kneel When you were in management? That came up occasionally,
Speaker 1: did it not.
Speaker 2: I can neither confirm nor do you stop that you
Speaker 2: do that all the time. Okay, I will say.
Speaker 4: I'm not supposed to point out Klono. Okay, it's really
Speaker 4: I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, there's stuff like that that goes yea
Speaker 2: and those people, those people do not well.
Speaker 1: For example, I had a little bit of an issue
Speaker 1: when management came to me and said, Bill, we noticed
Speaker 1: that you went on to the website lesbians from Venus dot.
Speaker 2: Com and why were you doing that?
Speaker 1: And I got away with it because it was for
Speaker 1: research for a topic that I was doing.
Speaker 2: That's legitimate.
Speaker 1: Now, when Kono goes on the website Venie lesbians from
Speaker 1: Venus dot com, it is a different animal.
Speaker 3: It's also for research.
Speaker 1: It's also for research because you need that research to
Speaker 1: run the board.
Speaker 2: You have to know that. I understand. Now.
Speaker 1: The issue is funny at first glance, but it really
Speaker 1: has to do with how involved a business is with
Speaker 1: your business. You know, The bottom line is, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you are using a company computer or server, you know
Speaker 1: you can't be stupid enough to do what you're doing,
Speaker 1: and you know that they're looking at you, and know
Speaker 1: that they're looking at you.
Speaker 2: For legitimate reasons.
Speaker 1: Now, a lot of these chat groups are saying, we
Speaker 1: will not share any of that because it is on
Speaker 1: their programs, on their platform, and so okay. Sometimes they'll
Speaker 1: just say, and there are a few that only do
Speaker 1: it under we'll only do it under subpoena when they
Speaker 1: keep what's going on fairly secret.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a tech maven, and certainly Neil, you're
Speaker 1: much more of a tech mayven. How far away are
Speaker 1: we from a company being able to effectively hack without
Speaker 1: being a hacker and go into based on your information
Speaker 1: the company has and go into much more private information
Speaker 1: about you, the ability to dive into your stuff outside
Speaker 1: of work.
Speaker 4: If they pay for your phone and they and that
Speaker 4: you were working on their computers, they have access to it.
Speaker 1: Any I understand they have access. But let's take it
Speaker 1: to a next level. Is the technology on its way?
Speaker 1: For for example, AI and I have no idea. This
Speaker 1: is me speculating who has very little knowledge of technology.
Speaker 1: How far away are we from a company being able
Speaker 1: to grab your information prior to the information with just
Speaker 1: the information they have about you, because they have your
Speaker 1: social Security number, they know where you live, they probably
Speaker 1: have your driver's license. You had to give them the
Speaker 1: You had to give them an information. We have to
Speaker 1: show our passports for example, to show citizenship. Certainly I
Speaker 1: did when I started working. I mean, it's that crazy.
Speaker 4: With a social I've worked with private investigators many times.
Speaker 4: They're professionally for the station and beyond, and I will
Speaker 4: tell you there you would be freaked out of what
Speaker 4: they can do with just a social Security number.
Speaker 1: Lesbian from venus dot com is the website to go to,
Speaker 1: By the way, I have no idea if that is
Speaker 1: a legitimate website.
Speaker 2: I bet I bet they all are. Oh, you're gonna
Speaker 2: go someplace. Little fingers got the look that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should look that up and report on it
Speaker 1: when we come back. Because I know, and you know,
Speaker 1: I've said, you come up with the craziest ass topic
Speaker 1: statement you could ever make, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: there is a world of chats and clubs.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was just about.
Speaker 1: To share a few of them, and you know, I
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Speaker 2: Oh look at the.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you're a good guy. No, you're right, Ay,
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Speaker 2: Is she nuts?
Speaker 1: Economically speaking? Absolutely? Both of them are insane. And I
Speaker 1: would use the word pandering as opposed to legitimate economic
Speaker 1: thing and programs. Okay, so we're done, and I'll do
Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Because there's a lot to be said. Also,
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Speaker 2: And that's not you to me, that's me to you.
Speaker 1: Do you find it astounding that people still call Neil
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Speaker 2: No, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll have someone who is We have a
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Speaker 4: If they have doing it to get through all that
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Speaker 4: to be barraged with, you know, a barrage of indecency
Speaker 4: and then get bad advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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