Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Day seven of the
Gallaine Maxwell trial just wrapped up a little while ago
and witnessed Carolyn, who went into a incredibly disturbing account
of what happened to her at the hands of Maxwell
and Epstein. She took the brunt of the questioning today.
She was on the stand for most of the day
and there were some pretty testing moments during the exchanges.
As usual, Gallaine Maxwell's legal team have kept up their
full court press and looked to destroy the credibility of
each and every witness that gets on the stand. Now,
obviously we're going to get to all of that, but
there was also a pretty shocking revelation that came at
the end of the day to day, and that was
the prosecution saying that they're going to be prepared to
wrap their case up by this week. Now. Remember this
is supposed to be a five to six week trial
according to the court and the prosecutors. Now all of
a sudden, all of a sudden, today we're looking at
it only being two weeks. As far as the prosecution goes,
you would think that they'd have more up their sleeve,
and it just goes right to the point that I've
been trying to make forever, to be honest with you,
that I have no confidence that the federal government of
the United States has any interest in really bringing people
who were involved in this to justice. They're throwing a
little red meat here, right, folks. Ah, you know, in
the interest of appearances, will pursue this a little bit.
But in reality, if they really wanted to go after
these people, if they really wanted to make sure that
this all stuck, then the would have been a rico case.
But now they're using this smaller scope the ten year period,
and it certainly looks like the prosecution, at least from
where I'm sitting, is not doing that great of a job. Now,
the witness testimony has been pretty damning, There's no doubt
about it. When you listen to these girls recount what
occurred to the occurred to them at the hands of
Maxwell and Epstein and their cohorts, it's distressing as hell.
But there is so much more here that the prosecutions
just leaving in the toolbox. And again it goes back
to the original strategy. Why is it that only these
four girls are being brought up as witnesses? We know
that this is the same exact thing that occurred the
first time around when they npaneled the Grand Jerry down
in Palm Beach. They only brought one girl up to
testify in front of the grand jury. And what did
they do? They destroyed her credibility because she talked to
some boys on MySpace at the time, and she drank
and smoked some weeds, So all of a sudden, her
testimony is not credible. And now fast forward to twenty
twenty one and we see the same thing happening. Now,
where's all the outrage? You know? You see all of
these people who want to march and go crazy and
act the fool whenever they can move the political football.
But for something like this, you would think that people
would be up in arms. So where is all of
the solidarity with Jeffrey Epstein's survivors. I would like to
see that same kind of energy put out there. But
one thing I have learned in the past, oh, I
don't know, two and a half three years of covering
this case and investigating this case, is that perhaps ever
when it comes to stuff like this, has been forgotten
more than these girls. It has been an absolute travesty
from start to finish. And now, just when you think
that there's a chance for some of this stuff to
come to light, just when you think there's a chance that,
you know, the doors might get blown off of this thing,
prosecution talks about resting their case. So that caught me
really off guard, honestly, and I don't know what to
think about it. So we'll have to see a little
bit more what comes out in the overnight hours and
into the morning about their strategy here. But I don't
understand how they can even begin to think about resting
their case. So we'll have to see what their strategy is.
But as usual, I am not very confident at all,
especially considering all of the circumstances surrounding all of it.
I told you folks from Jump Street that I'm not
confident in Maureen Comy. Why is Maureen Comy who is
also prosecuting Nicholas TARTAGLIONI Why is she in charge of
this case as well? So there's just a lot of
things that never made sense to me. They still don't
make sense to me, and I unfortunately I figured and
knew that even after this trial there would still be
way too many questions and not enough answers because this
trial and the scope of this trial was never large enough. Now,
I honestly don't know if or when we'll ever see
any justice at this point, folks. And that's just the
truth of the matter, as far as I can see it.
It's a bit discouraging to hear that the prosecution is
ready to close their case now. Maybe they think they've
done enough to get a conviction already. And like I said,
the testimony was pretty damning. But with all of the
evidence that's available, all of the stuff that's been out there,
all of the stuff that we have heard from these
survivors about Maxwell and her behavior, you would think that
they'd really try and ram the point home. You would
think that they would bring a parade of girls to
come out and testify, even if their testimony doesn't have
to do with the actual charges. Wouldn't that be showing
that this is the kind of person Maxwell is, kind
of like character witnesses. You saw it with Harvey Weinstein
in a few instances. So it's very disheartening to think
that the prosecution is going to be done here. But
I guess we'll have to wait and see, right, We'll
have to see what comes of this, and we'll have
to see what the next couple of days bring at
the very least, because I'm hearing that they're talking about
being done on Thursday, resting their case on Thursday, so
one can only imagine what is on deck for tomorrow.
Before we get to that, however, why don't we discuss
what went down today inside of that courtroom and take
a look at some of the proceedings that were underway
in Day seven of the Glenn Maxwell trial. So the
trial kicks off pretty much the same way as the
other six day has the other the other six days
have with the prosecutors and the defense arguing before the
jury even comes in, this time over Jane, the witness
who testified previously, and what she told her boyfriend and
when she told them it. Judge Nathan decides that if
the prosecution wants to call them to testify, then they'll
have to call them after lunch. After that there was
another sealed sidebar, and then the jury comes out to
Uh to get started, So they never ended up bringing
this uh other witness that they were talking about bringing
out to talk today to put under oath and give
their statement, So nothing came of that anyway, Maureen comy
handling things right now as far as the first portion
of the case today, and they continue on with the
FBI agent from yesterday and evidence is once again provided.
The agent was I was asked directly to identify the
people in the pictures, and the agent identifies the people
in the pictures as Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. Uh.
These photos are relevant because they were found on CDs
from the twenty and nineteen raid of Epstein's and they
weren't protected by the NPA from two thousand and five,
by the way, And some of these CDs were found
in that safe that you know we've talked about several
times from the raid at Epstein's house when he was
arrested the second time around. They found a bunch of
stuff in that safe, diamonds, they found money, fake Saudi
Arabian passport, all sorts of things. And Epstein was known
to have some cash on hand so he can make
you know, payoffs to his cohorts or for his air quotes, massages,
stuff like that. But these CDs were found in twenty
and nineteen and the photos that were put into evidence
were showing Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell in these photos. Next
to the evidence that's put into the court is sealed
and prosecution they give the jurors instructions on where to
find that in their binders the sealed file portion, so
pictures are shown of Epstein and Maxwell hugging and then
otherwise close poses the ones that aren't sealed, and after
a short cross examination, the defense was done. So that
wrapped it up for the FBI agent who finished off
yesterday and started off today. It was about some of
the evidence that was procured in the first of the
second raid of Epstein in twenty nineteen. So this was
an FBI agent who was involved in that raid, who
was involved in handling the evidence, and this was somebody
who was putting the pieces together to show the connections
obviously between Maxwell and Epstein. Now, the next witness that
they call up onto the stand is Stephen Flatley, an
instructor from Quantico, which is the headquarters of the FBI,
and he's in charge of one of their digital departments
reconstructing hard drives and stuff like that. Comy goes on
to ask Flatley about one of the hard drives that
was registered to g Max and then referred to an
email address from mindstring, MindSpring excuse me, that was Maxwell's
Comy goes on to ask about an email that discussed John,
which is interesting because remember Glenn Maxwell used to call
Juan Juana Lessi John, And when you look at the
things that she was talking about in this email, it
was obvious that she was talking about Juana Lessi considering
what his duties were as far as being Epstein's butler
slash housekeeper. So again shows the ties, right, shows the connections.
She goes on to talk about several things that John
did poorly in this email, including a pool deck being
dirty and there being no pens. She also went on
to complain about massage creams that were left in disarray
in Epstein's bathroom. So we know that Juanna Lessi has
already testified about the bathroom, the sex toys, the massage
oils and that stuff. So now we see an email
from Glene Maxwell herself from the gmax account talking about
this very thing, basically corroborating what Juanna Lessi said previously.
So this gentleman from Quantico went through the whole entire
spiel about you know, the computers, blah blah blah blah, blah,
and then we're back to sealing items. So now Exhibit
number four eighteen is offered up, but it's offered up
under seal, and that's pretty much it for the prosecution
as far as with this witness. The instructor from Quantico,
now Laura Mettinger for the defense, begins her cross by
asking several questions about computer files and if he, the
FBI agent, can say for sure if anything was changed
or not during copying, and he admits that he can't. Right,
he didn't have possession of this computer all the time.
He doesn't know what happened to it at all the time.
So what they're trying to do here is established that
there could have been somebody who could have messed with
some files. Not a very strong defense, not a very
strong strategy in my opinion, but that certainly looks to
be what they're trying to set up. They were also
talking about locations and if they could determine where Maxwell
was with the emails, but with it being emails from
a desktop computer, it would make geolocation a moot point,
so there wasn't anything that they could gleam from that.
And with that, that's it for this witness as well.
Meninger releases this witness and the early morning of the
proceedings is wrapped up. Now, like I said, the majority
of this was Carolyn, who is testifying under her first name,
and somebody who was allegedly abused by Maxwell and Epstein.
So Carolyn next up on the stand, and the prosecution
starts out asking some questions about her background, such as
how long she went to school for and she responds
that she dropped out school was done for her in
seventh grade. She also goes on to discuss how her
mother was an alcoholic. Now, remember, these are exactly the
kind of situations that Maxwell and Epstein thrived upon that
they were always looking for. They were looking for somebody
from a broken home or in a situation where they
needed financial help or other help. And they can swoop
in and offer that help, but only if you played
their game right, only if you came back to the
house for the massages, and only if you brought other girls,
and nothing was given for free. And we know that
it was their complete and utter m o. How many
of these girls were from disadvantaged backgrounds, How many of
them came from parents who had drug addiction or parents
who had money problems, working two jobs. And the sad
reality is, folks, those are the people that are always
prayed upon. They're the most vulnerable amongst us, and that
is exactly where Jeffrey Epstein and Glinne Maxwell liked to
focus their attention. When she was asked how old she
was when she was first introduced to Epstein, she replied
that she was fourteen and that someone named Sean introduced them. Originally,
she says, she told Sean she was seventeen, but he
found out her real age at her birthday party. Now
think about that, She tells his duty seventeen, then at
the birthday party finds out she's fourteen. I mean, really, bro,
you're still hanging out with her? Really? She goes on
to tell the court that it was this relationship with
Sean that led to her meeting Virginia Roberts. According to Carolyn,
she was introduced to Epstein to give him massages so
she could make some money. Now, there was a whole
thing where Glenne Maxwell's legal team was throwing Virginia's name
around in this and we're going to get to that
a little a little bit further down here. But it
was quite transparent what they were trying to do. They
were trying to set it up as if Virginia Roberts
was a human trafficker and not Gallainne Maxwell, when in
reality it was Glaine Maxwell, according to all these reports,
at the top of the food chain here giving the
orders for this to occur, normalizing all of this, grooming
all of them. She goes on to say, you know,
she had no education, She's from a broken home. She
was in need of cash, and that's why she went
to give Epstein those massages. Right, three hundred bucks is
a lot of money when you have nothing, and to
be able to get it multiple times a week. Carolyn
goes on to tell the court about meeting Glaine for
the first time and how she couldn't pronounce Maxwell's name,
so she just called her by her last name. She
said that Maxwell had shoulder length, black hair and an accent.
Carolyn said that Maxwell took off her clothes and Carolyn
left on her bra and underwear, she says. Carolyn then
tells the court that after forty five minutes of giving
Epstein a massage, he turned over he Epstein and him
and Virginia started to have sex. So we know from
Virginia's depositions, and we know from Virginia's reports that several
different accounts of it being a group type of thing
where Epstein was sexually abusing her in a group environment
and using that to normalize the process for the other victims.
It was just an absolutely draconian method that this man had,
and he used these young girls to bring other young
girls into his web. And what he would try and
do is give himself a bit of a buffer zone. Right.
Oh well, I wasn't paying them for sex, I you know,
I was paying them to come over and give me
a massage. And then he'd have several layers between himself
and the actual payment, just like a criminal mob boss.
So again I ask you, how is it that Rico
is not being used here? Prosecution then asked Carolyn Carolyn
about payment and how much she would receive, and she
said she received three hundred dollars. She wasn't sure how
much Virginia was given. She also stated that Maxwell asked
her for her phone number. So after this first time,
obviously Jeffrey Epstein was pleased and wanted to have Carolyn
come back for more air quotes, massages, and unfortunately that's
exactly what happened. Carolyn, when asked about how many times
she went to Epstein's, says that she went more than
one hundred times, at least two or three times a week,
from the time she was fourteen until she was eighteen.
She tells the court when asked why she went to Epstein's,
that three hundred dollars was a lot of money to
a young girl. This is something that we have discussed
a lot, and again, it is one of the easiest
ways for these people with gigantic amounts of financial resources
a huge influence to groom these girls who come from nothing,
and it's a process that is very, very, very effective. Unfortunately.
She recounts how when Maxwell would call, she would ask
Carolyn if she'd be able to see them if they
flew in. They also asked her about traveling and if
she could go overseas with them. She says she told
them that her mother would never allow it. When she
was asked if Maxwell newer age, Carolyn responds, she did know. So, Oh,
let's frame that Maxwell's calling this fourteen year old girl
to try and get her to go overseas on trips.
For what possible reason? Could you want to bring this
fourteen year old girl on your trips with you overseas.
It is debased and absolutely disgusting. The assistant US Attorney
Pomerantz continues, Did Maxwell touch you? She asks? To this,
Carolyn responds with yes. When asked where on the body
she was touched, she says her breasts. She says that
Maxwell told her she had a great body for Epstein
and his friends. And his friends huh, very interesting. Again,
how is it that the prosecution is even talking about
arresting this case. None of Jeffrey Epstein's friends are gonna
get caught up here, nobody else? What about the coken spear?
Sarah Vickers, Sarah Kelln Vickers is gonna is gonna skate here.
It's gross, It's really gross, and it just again shows
you that the justice system is completely broken, folks. It
doesn't matter who's in office, it doesn't matter which tribe
is in office and telling you, you know, whatever sweet
lies they feel like handing out. The fact of the
matter is, nothing ever changes, and the most vulnerable amongst us,
meaning all of us, basically compared to these people, continue
to get absolutely squashed. Also, if it was just a massage,
why would Maxwell even comment on her body type? Right?
Why would it matter what her body type is if
she's getting a massage, It shouldn't matter one way or
the other. If she's big, small, anything in between, as
long as she can give a good massage. Right. But again,
this is a fourteen year old girl who was obviously
not brought over there for massages. She also details how
Epstein would ask her questions about her upbringing, again trying
to set those claws in right now, this was a
big one by prosecution in my opinion. They asked Carolyn
about payment and if Maxwell ever paid her. Carolyn stated
that Maxwell handed her three one hundred dollars bills, So
that establishes that Maxwell was paying her for these quote
unquote massages, and it also shows culpability, right, shows that
she was a conspirator, a co conspirator. She knew that
these girls were being abused, according to their accounts, and
not only did she stand by and do nothing partake
in some cases, but she was also the one paying
the girls the money in some accounts. So again it
establishes big time that Glen Maxwell was a pivotal player
in this whole entire thing. Carolyn continued to talk about
Epstein and how he sent her gifts like concert tickets, lingerie,
probably Victoria's Secret, and a massage for Dummies book. Now
we heard about the Massage for Dummies book at least
a copy of it before from one of the previous raids,
so this must have been a book that they were
sending out all the time to try and get these
little girls hip to how to give a proper massage. Again,
it creeps me out, even saying that these people have
all the money in the world. Why in the hell
would these clowns be trying to get massages from these
young little girls if it wasn't for the purposes of
assaulting them. No other excuse, no other reason is logical
or makes sense. You don't bring a fourteen year old
girl over with no massage therapy experience to work the
kinks out. Ca was also asked by the prosecution if
she ever brought other friends to Epstein's from massages, and
she says she brought three Amanda el who was a
year older than her, and then Tatum and Julie, who
were younger. She says she made six hundred and the
others made three hundred, so that was another stick of
Epstein's in Maxwell's and that's why some people call it
a sexual Ponzi scheme, right, a sexual assault ponzi scheme.
He would get these one girl involved in his abuse
and then he would set her out by giving her
money to bring other girls in. And at the same time,
the process was normalized because the original girl who was
groomed and brought into the circle is telling these other girls, how, oh,
this is just normal. You want to make a few
hundred bucks, you just got to give them a massage.
So these other girls come in and they think this
is normal behavior, and you see how it all works, right,
and it's disgusting. And in Palm B we're talking dozens
and dozens and dozens of allegations like this, in what
was probably a preemptive move considering the prosecution knew that
the defense was going to try and punch holes in Carolyn.
They talk about her drug addiction and what she spent
the money on, and she said she spent her money
on drugs. She also talks about giving birth and when
asked if she went back to Epstein, she says she did,
and even went while she was pregnant. So again it
just show It shows you the absolute hooks that these
people put in to these young girls. And we're not
talking about, you know, any gray area here. Okay, this
was a fourteen year old girl when she first came
into Epstein's sphere. There's no excuse for it, there's no
defense for it. The prosecution also asked her about jail
time she did over pawning a video game console, and
she says she did time, but then she went to
drug treatment and therapy and she is currently on medication
to help her with her drug addictions. One of those
drugs is methadone, so obviously she had an opiate opiate addiction,
and this is very common, folks, for people who suffer
this kind of trauma. You're trying to run from it,
trying to hide from it, trying to get away from yourself.
So what's the easiest way to do that, right, drugs.
So you'll see a lot of these girls who have
unfortunately been caught up with Maxwell and Epstein and people
like them, turned to drugs, and it's just a whole
bad scene that follows it. Asking about the Xbox issue
and the father of her child shown on, she says
that she has not been in touch with him since
her arrest. She has also asked if she works or
has ever worked for an escort service, to which she answers. Sometimes,
when asked what Maxwell did to her, she tells the
court she took pictures of her naked and of course
the other stuff with Epstein, and the prosecution presses the
issue and asks who decided who you would sue, to
which the defense objects. Judge Nathan sustains their objection, so
again setting it up because they know the prosecute, I mean,
the defense is gonna come hard after her character, so
they wanted to get it out there in open court
that she A had a drug problem, B did time,
and c worked as an escort after all of this occurred.
But that really doesn't matter in the long run, does it?
Or in the big picture? The trauma that she suffered
at fourteen years old obviously led her down this road.
So how can you begin to assess, tell her and
assault her for her life choices and for the things
that have happened after she was abused by Jeffrey Epstein
and allegedly Maxwell. It is ridiculous. Now, of course, it's
the place of the defense to try and do that.
But I really hope that the Jerry's paying attention to
what's going on here. So that's the end of it
for the prosecution with Carolyn, and they hand her over
to the defense for the cross examine, I mean for
the yeah, the defense for cross exam. The defense asks
if Sean was a friend of Virginia Roberts' boyfriend Tony
and if they smoked pot and drank booze together. Carolyn
answered that they didn't drink booze, so obviously Sean and
TONI were friends and they smoked pot, just like I
don't know everybody you know at this point. I mean, really,
who doesn't smoke pot? And to act like smoking pot
or drinking booze or anything like that makes you not
credible when it comes to something like being assaulted is
just banana's land for me. I can't wrap my head
around anything like that. And if I was ever on
a jerry and somebody tried to infer that, I would
definitely be thinking that they don't have much else to
go on. Right, Well, I'm gonna need some evidence. She
was asked if it was Virginia who told her that
she could make three hundred dollars, and she answered, no.
What Pagliuca is doing here is he's trying to attempt
to set the tone that Virginia was the trafficker, not Maxwell.
And he asked if Maxwell was there when she was
approached about making five hundred dollars, and Carolyn says, no,
Maxwell was not there, it was just her in Virginia. Again,
Maxwell states a name in court that they shouldn't, this
time using Carolyn's last name. So it's become a pattern now,
right almost to the point where you have to ask yourself,
are they attempting to dox these witnesses because they shouldn't
be mentioning their names. Okay, they shouldn't be mentioning last names.
If these girls are testifying anonymously, then that's the way
it should be kept. But the scumbaggery that's being shown
here by Maxwell's lawyers, it's you get what you pay for.
Right when you're paying for this kind of money, these
guys are going and ladies are going to push the envelope,
and that's exactly what they're doing. So after all of
that nonsense and Glen Maxwell's lawyers, once again acting the
full judge, Nathan calls for a lunch break. After they're
done with the lunch break, the cross examination begins in
Earnest and the defense begins by asking her about the
FBI notes from her twenty seventeen interview. Now, it's interesting
because as the two thousand the interviews that you have
with the FBI, those aren't, you know, the word of law, right,
they're not. The FBI isn't taking those not those notes
word for word. Those are notes. So I don't think
that the defense bringing that up is going to help
them in the long run here. I think it's kind
of a moot point and kind of a spinning of
their wheels tactic. Now, I know, I said, I'm not
confident really in the federal government, but I haven't seen
much from Glenn Maxwell as far as evidence proving that
she's innocent here either. So it is going to be
very interesting the defense. The defense says, the FBI notes
say that the woman had an unknown accent to and
to this, Carolyn disagrees. She says that she told them
that the woman had an accent. Uh. Pagliuca continues that
she knew what a British accent was, but she said
on and once again he was implying that she's a liar.
Asking about the second time that she went to Epstein's house,
he says, so, for the second visit, you sat in
the kitchen and spoke with the chef. Now, I'm guessing
the timeframe lines up here and that that chef was
Adam Perry Lang. So it definitely looks like that is
the case as far as the timelines are concerned. But
that wasn't mentioned in court or anything like that. Carolyn
responds that she isn't sure if that was her second
visit or if it was some time after that, And
at this point, the defense calls for the court to
show the witness what she said in two thousand and seven.
So again back to the FBI notes, which would signal
to me that they don't have much else to go
on here, right. So it's one of those interesting situations
where I'm certainly not confident in what we have seen
as far as the prosecutions performance. But at the same time,
I haven't seen a defense here that would get Maxwell off,
at least in my opinion. Carolyn tells the defense that
the FBI didn't ask her about Maxwell. Pagliuca presses by
asking her if she is saying the FBI put a
gag on what she could say, and she responds again
that she wasn't asked about Maxwell. And to this, the
defense responds by stating that she told the FBI about
Sarah Kellen Vickers or just Sarah and the Incubis tickets
from Epstein, and then Carolyn said that she responds yes
to this, so he is asking her about the whole
entire gag here on what she could or couldn't say,
and she says that there was no gag and that
when they pressed about the email with Maxwell about Sarah
Kelln Vickers, that it was factual that she did get
these Incubis tickets from Epstein. So again it's more gifts, right,
and what the defense is trying to do here is
point out that it was Sarah Kelln Vickers and that
it was Jeffrey Epstein. It was everybody but Glenn Maxwell.
That's what the defense is trying to point out right here.
The defense also probes Carolyn about her move from Florida
to Georgia, and they asked her about the lawsuits that
she filed. Carolyn cuts them off and asks what they
have to do about what those have to do with
her moving to Georgia. Again, it's uh one of those
things where if you're a witness on the stand, you
have to get frustrated right when you're getting peppered by
the defense here like this. So she is being absolutely hammered.
He's talking about why she moved from Georgia to Florida,
and he is basically saying that it was because she
had to go get clean, and she says that the
reason she was leaving is to escape from the trauma.
So right after this again, Maxwell calls for another break,
the afternoon break. At this point, coming back from the return, now,
Maureen call me asks how long the defense expects this
cross examination to go on for and there's no response
to the question. So the defense starts right in again
and they questioned Carolyn, and this time asking her if
she ever remembered using drugs when she was thirteen. Carolyn
says that if you consider pot a drug, then yes.
So again you see it, folks, And it's the story
right of the defense. Their job is to try and
continue to destroy the credibility. And it seems to me
anyway that all they have to go on as far
as credibility issues to destroy is the fact that this
girl might have smoked some pot, or she might have
hung out with some boys or something like that. It's ridiculous.
The defense then tries to leave the witness, stating that
she went to Georgia to get clean, but Carolyn says
that that wasn't the reason. She says she went there
to escape her past trauma, and the witness was asked
if she was doing cocaine when she was at Epstein's house,
and she responded a note to that. The defense then
refers to previous lawsuits and reads, did you have sexual
inner with mister Epstein? Defense reads the answer no. Carolyn
speaks up during this and replies that she wasn't a
willing participant. So they were reading from those the documents, right,
the three to zero two's that the FBI provided, and
the defense reads it, did you have sexual intercourse with
mister Epstein and then the answer that Carolyn provided no.
Now in the middle of this, she stops the defense
attorney and she says that she wasn't a willing participant.
That's why she said she didn't have sexual intercourse with Epstein,
because she didn't she was raped by him, so it
wasn't in her course. She goes on to say that Maxwell,
that Glenn Maxwell fondled me and broke my soul, and
at this point the defense moves to get the comments
struck from the record, and Judge Nathan, after advising the
witness follow the rules, orders the jury to disregard that comment.
She is had enough, right and you could tell by
at least just by the notes that we had coming out,
because remember, folks, this is just an accumulation of different
courtroom tweets and notes that are coming out as the
trial's going on. But you could tell that she had
had enough during this cross examination, and there were several
times here where she went off off of the playbook
and said stuff like that Galene Maxwell fondled me and
broke my soul. Can you imagine what this girl went
through in her life. Again, the defense is probing about
money received from the compensation fund, and Carolyn again goes
off of the script and she says that no amount
of money can heal her. And as she's saying this,
she's cut off by the defense, who once again moved
to strike the witness comment from the record, and once
again Judge Nathan agrees. She orders the jury to disregard
the comment, and she again instructs the witness to follow
the rules. Carolyn's crying now, and the defense asks if
she claimed to have seen a picture of Maxwell pregnant,
and she responds she did nude and pregnant, and she
goes to continue her response, but the defense cuts her
off at this point, stating that they have no further questions.
With a few minutes left, marine Comy asks if if
Caroline Carolyn is here to get money, and she responds, no,
she is here because what Maxwell did is wrong. Again,
the defense objects, the state ends it they have no
further questions for the witness, but Pagliuca is not finished yet.
He asked her about the money she received in two
thousand and nine, but the money was gone by twenty twelve,
and this was four hundred and forty six thousand dollars.
He asked her what happened to it? She says she
doesn't know, she has kids to take care of. The
defense with their ham handed approach, continues, you can't recall
how you spend four hundred and forty six thousand dollars.
You lost all of it. No further questions and with
that for folks, day number seven comes to a close
in the Gallain Maxwell trial. They're sure is a lot
to unpack today, And I'm sure as the day goes
on and we get more information about the prosecution resting
their case as soon as this week, then maybe we'll
have more clarity. But as of right now, I don't
even know what to say about the prosecution preparing to
rest its case now. As far as the testimony given today,
I thought that it was pretty powerful testimony. It certainly
sets the foundational blocks we've been talking about, and it
continues to connect the dots. Oh, we'll see what tomorrow
morning brings. But one thing I can tell you is
it's going to be interesting, all right, everybody. If you'd
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