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Speaker 2: What's up, friendos, and welcome into the In This League

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Fantasy Baseball Podcast with the Welsh and the Bogman. Today

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we're gonna be going through, of course, the latest around baseball.

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We're gonna be without Aaron Judge for some time. I

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sure hope not. Is Trek Scubel gonna be pitching with

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the Tiger soon. Maybe we're gonna be talking about that injuries.

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We're gonna look at two star pitchers and got a

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little game of guests who. Bogman has put together some

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guessing games of player A player B so I guess

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this is like a guess who player debate type of situation.

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We'll be playing some of that, which is always gonna

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be fun. And that is what we've got in store

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sign up today. Bogman, how is the voice? Are we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're almost back. I would say we're like ninety

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to ninety five percent. I'll get a little scratchy at

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some point, throwing a cough drop and be okay. So

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by Monday, should be sitting pretty.

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Speaker 2: You sound back. That's that's sounds pretty nice. I feel

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pretty back.

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Speaker 3: It's just a little it'll get a little scratchy the

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longer I talk.

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Speaker 2: That's all. Speaking of back, Prospect one was back. If

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people didn't know it took a hiatus that we didn't

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really talk about. It didn't need to be like a

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I got a new episode with James Anderson up. If

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you guys want to go and listen to that talking

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about the prospect world because there's a lot of fun

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stuff out there. Let's get into the baseball world because

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there's a lot of stuff going on, and Aaron Judge

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is at the forefront of it. Aaron Judge underwent imaging

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for what is described as a bone bruise on his rib,

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which first off not good, like just ribs and like,

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you know, the the movement that you've got to make

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as far as a hitter, like having that and the discomfort.

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That's a problem. More of a problem to me is

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that the imaging came back and they went to send

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the imaging, they looked at it and they're like, let's

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have somebody else look at it. What does that mean?

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What's the deal with? Well, what's the deal. I hate

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that and it may be nothing it maybe you know,

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blah blah blah. To me, this is an il stint.

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I don't think it's like the end of the world

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or anything like that, but I just don't love bone

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bruises in general, and I don't love that they need

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like multiple eyes, multiple doctors to look at something to

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figure out what's going on. And as we're recording this,

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we've heard nothing. So I'm I, I don't know. I

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kind of tend to be thinking the worst here.

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Speaker 3: Let's take it to the witch doctor and un crystals

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on it. That's right, he's a mercury rising whatever whatever.

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Speaker 2: The theology bog when you're talking about the astrology side,

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you rub crystals on your bone.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, I don't know the difference between holistic. Uh,

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it's all listen.

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Speaker 2: So here's the Here's like, there's a causation explained to me,

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because mercury is in retrograde, is why he got the

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bone bruised to food retrograde, Aaron judge, His mercury is

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in retrograde, so that's what caused the bone bruise. To

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fix the bone bruise, you clearly, just rub crystals on it.

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Speaker 3: To hear mercury one more time. It sounds like you said,

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hed mercury. Okay, you got it. I was here, I

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was hearing you saying mercury.

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Speaker 2: I say, I say nuclear wrong sometimes nuclear nuclear nuclear

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nuclear nuclear, just one of those like dumb brings nuke,

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which as I get older seems to be taking over

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bigger portions, it will say like really stupid stuff. But

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but I don't know. I don't know if you feel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the older I get, I'm like him. I guess

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I peaked. I think I'm dumb now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like all the stuff that they're like, hey, you

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shouldn't do this, and in your twenties and you're like invincible,

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it doesn't matter. Then you're just like, maybe you should

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have ate a little bit more organic, Maybe should have

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had a little bit so much soda, like that type

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of things that's starting to have. I've never heard of that.

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so old. It's crazy, But like, are you are you

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in the same like worried train is on the corn Judge,

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it's probably going to be fine. It's probably at worse

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like an I is.

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Speaker 3: Probably yeah crazy, like a two week il stint and

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he comes back and he's fine. But with the rib

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and it, you know, the X rays being sent off,

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you worry about lat strain, you were about abstrain, you

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worry about thorastic outlet syndrome. Like there's a lot of

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stuff going on with the rib that could mean a

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prolonged absence. So until we hear official word, I think

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you're sitting on pins and needles kind of waiting to

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see what's going to happen here. So, yeah, it is

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very concerning. Judge isn't having his greatest year. I think

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his war is like two point two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the two point whatever. Because when we

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did that betting episode, with's a three point five and

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Judge is like two point four or something at the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wit By It is leading by a country

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mile three point seven. Jordan is three point one and jumping.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a huge jump for your because it was

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the only person whenever we did that episode on Monday,

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it was Bobby wit in the threes and everybody else

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was in the two, so.

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Speaker 3: Well, Ordine hit a couple of homers the other Day's

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Just stay helped, man, he's a great, great hitter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll pay attention on the Judge front. Also Ellie,

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we had the el e I L. I think earlier

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in the week Ellie is going to miss two to

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four weeks with a hamstring string. Also not great, not

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the best when we have all of our really great

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players going on the I L maybe kind of get

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it done in the dog days of baseball summer and

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stuff like that. On the stretch.

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Speaker 3: I think I just need to go over who I

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have on my home league team.

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Speaker 2: Did you have Ellie and Judge? Yeah? I had Alie,

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not Judge.

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Speaker 3: Also Kirk Altuve, Lawler, Jacob Wilson, Edward Cabrera, Uri Perez.

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I've had a lot of injured guys on that team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I also hate this specifically from a player like

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is going to be like running a lot too. Maybe

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this is going to be on the longer side of it. Again,

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it's so funny because it's like, what do you do.

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It's so funny reporting these things in fantasy. It's like,

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all right, well, here you go. This is the thing.

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Ellie's internal option kind of became Edwin Arroyo, who's fine.

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Aaron Judges might be Jason Dimingez who's about to start

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a rehab assignment on Friday. But none of them like

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do much like I guess the question would be, those

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guys that are going to get opportunities, are those opportunities

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worth something? I think Jason Dimingez is I don't think

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Edwin Arroyo's really is. I think roy is in like

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the Colt Emerson camp of like, yeah, these are fine,

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but I just don't think they're super relevant right now. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You just need you need a hot player is basically

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what it is.

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Speaker 2: You need someone. You need a hot guy is exactly

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what you need.

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Speaker 3: You need someone that is just playing way above their

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weight right now, and you know when they start to

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fall off, kind of get rid of him and try

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to find the next hotness, right like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the hitter of streaming stuff like about like Curtis

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mea like Curtis meet days like those are the type

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of guy, but like, what do you do they're not?

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Speaker 3: Like Emerson is hitting three twenty four over like the

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last two weeks stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: That's true. He power. I actually we've just talked about

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him on leading off there. I know I don't have

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like a lot of trust in Emerson long term because

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I think everything is weird. It's like high strikeout rates

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and stuff like that. But like you know, he's also

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a doubles hitter, like he's gonna he's finding his way

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in the majors, so he might be able to like

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make do with some of that production. But two of

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the game's like biggest guys out pretty brutal. There's more injuries,

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but those are the two kind of headlining stuff on

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the pitching front. Chris Sanchez, his scoreless streak ended at

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fifty point two innings, fifth longest in MLB history. Bogs,

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I did not realize this. This doesn't really necessarily have

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to do with anything like with this incredible streak, he's awesome.

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Like what else do we need to say? Like Joe

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did that to me today. He brought up like Chris

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Sanchez and he like talked about it. Then he like

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threw it to me, and it's like, I don't know,

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what do you want me to say? Like he's one

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of the best, Like there's nothing else to say. That

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streak was insane, I think, like I was struggling with

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my redraft rank of does he two or is he three?

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realize this, and it actually sparked me. I'm starting to

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get ahead of this for next year, not only for

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my full time job at Fantasy Pros, but probably for

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us too. I don't know if you're aware we might

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have a little break in baseball potentially, especially with how

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things are being talked about right now, and it's going to.

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Speaker 3: Allow for a lot of SAT projects, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I saw this and it sparked me because

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I'm making a sheet of all potential content that could

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be made around baseball when baseball's not being had evergreen

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type of stuff, and this is like a no doubt one.

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But I did not realize that. Chris Sanchez in twenty nineteen,

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I believe it was twenty nineteen, was traded from the

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Tampa Bay Rays to the Phillies for do you know who?

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Speaker 3: The Rays in Phillies trade in twenty nineteen. Mm hm,

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oh man.

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Speaker 2: The guy actually is still in the major leagues that

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he was traded for. That's a plus.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I can't think of who it is.

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Speaker 2: Who was it, Curtis Mead? It was was traded for

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Curtis Mead, And looking at that, I think the person

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that had posted that was like, like, hey, we need

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to start putting this on the lines of how Jordan

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Alvarez was traded from the Dodgers to the Astros for

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Josh Fields, and I was like Jesus, But also I

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was like, that's ridiculous. I didn't even realize that about

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Chris Sanchez. And then I was like, yeah, they're definitely

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we're going to do a bad trade video U and

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Speaker 3: I knew that maybe start that mascot series back up, Yeah,

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mascot exactly.

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Speaker 2: I knew the Tatist one, I knew the Alvarez one.

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I did not know the Chris Sanchez one. And that

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was mind boggling. And that's that is gotta be sickening,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean those trades are somewhat common you know,

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we what do we what do we give Carlos Gonzalez

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to the Rockies for a vision rival?

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Speaker 2: No, actually, you're wrong, we got we actually traded Carlos

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Gonzalez and the Dan Herron trade trade him to the Athletic.

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But to your point, I know what you were saying,

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but your your point is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my point is so vow because we can find

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one hundred examples.

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Speaker 2: But examples of those trades.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, there are there are a million trades

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like that. I mean I gave up tukey to Sant

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and uh cash and Dan Spy Swanson to get what

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was it, Bronson Arroyo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well no we gave I don't no Danceby Swanson

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was not involved in that trade. I don't believe we

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gave up to key to Saunt.

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Speaker 3: Every trade we've done with the Braves is bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every trade we don't. The Dansby Swanson one is

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gross because I believe that was the one. It might

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have been the mat I've ever seen you about a

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trade the dance Oh, because he was the number one

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overall pick. We traded like the number one overall pick.

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And I'm trying to remember what that one was because

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the Justin Upton one was like Martine Prato and a

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bunch of other jagar every with the braid. Yeah they

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need they need.

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Speaker 3: To block trade with the block the braves every time.

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Speaker 2: The danceby Swanton nine, need to look? What was the

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Dansby swansent? Well?

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Speaker 3: The two so we gave like two kids was a

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big prospect. We gave him and cash to get reds

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for or.

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Speaker 2: No bro we get. We traded Bronson Arroyo and for

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three we said take on Arroyos contract, which will pay

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someone and we'll give you two key to son here. Okay,

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yes you are right. The dance by Swanson one was

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one of the most man I've ever been because this

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is what it was. The Diamondbacks scent the number one

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overall pick and in the Inder n Crt Well, I

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kind of.

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Speaker 3: Like I loved Ender. He was a great fielder.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Blair was kind of a whatever prospect. Inder n

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Crt was like a cool fourth outfielder. And Dansby Swanson

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for Shelby Mill shall be Miller. Yeah, that was the

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one that made me match shall be Miller? Oh my,

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that series I might actually you just sparked a new

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series teams that own other teams in trade. The Braves

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own the diamondback in every trade that they've ever done.

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They've not realized anything.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean the Cardinals also the Goldie trade.

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Speaker 2: You were definite. I mean we did the Emergency show

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about that. I think you were.

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Speaker 3: Drive through You're like, what are you doing? I'm like,

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I'm getting a double Western.

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Speaker 2: We got a record. Yeah, that might be one of

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the more I mean, nothing we've done is ever amounted

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to anything, but like what in our world. I'll bet you,

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like long timers would probably put that in top five.

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I know, like DVR, that's like the favorite, not that

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DVR consumes everything we do. Probably his favorite thing we've

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ever done was the Emergency Goldie podcast. That's really funny

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to think back on.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I was right by the way terrible trade.

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It was a terrible trade. Who your arts worked out

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for us? Luke Weaver is the best part of that deal.

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And he's a setup man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean Carson, well, Carson Kelly, I started

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to putting together a career, not with a diamondback. So

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so maybe a development is show, Who would you rather

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Chris Sanchez or Shohio Tani, who became me the first

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player to get on base more than the opponent he

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was pitching against. But also he has a sub one era,

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a sub one whip. He is having one of the

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most ridiculous pitching seasons out there. But there is that little, like,

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you know, hitter six man type of thing. I don't know,

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blah blah blah. Wh would you rather rest of season

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Otani or Cris Sanchez Otani? I think I kind of

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agree with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he still does both things. Are we

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just talking about just straight as.

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Speaker 2: A pitcher well not a inn fantasy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want still does both things?

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Speaker 2: Well no, no, I mean the pitcher only. That's what

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I just asked. Oh he want you No, No, you

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just said you said Otani does both things. I'm saying

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only the pitcher version. Okay, it's still it's still Otani.

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Oh kay? So you okay, So wait, I just wanted

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you did not hear what I said, because you were

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saying that he does both things. I was saying only

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pitcher version. I want to make sure I wasn't crazy there.

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Speaker 3: I was listening go back and listen to the whole thing.

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You are crazy. Yes, I want Otani.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I actually do too.

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Speaker 1: Like it.

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Speaker 2: Just he's absurd. Both these guys are absurd to.

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Speaker 3: Heah, they're both great. You don't you don't go wrong

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either way. Here's a better question, be a player debate

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better question? Uh, Chris Sanchez or Showhyotani. Who will be

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Trek Scooble's teammate in two months?

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Speaker 2: Oh Tani?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Scooble might be starting in Triple A on Saturday after

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he had a sixty four pitch simulated game on Monday.

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But but but apparently, according to I believe it was

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Ken Rosenthal, the Tigers are telling people that they are

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not trade Uh, they're not traders right now that Schooble's

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not available because they're going to try to win games,

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which they just swept whoever they played. Usually I would

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say that's I mean, they're one of the worst teams

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in baseball. Usually I would say that's stupid. But Scoobo

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really seems like he wants to stay with the Tigers,

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like he was even talking about He's like, hey, when

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we win games, they don't talk about trading me and stuff.

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Though I think multiple, Like you know, people in baseball

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have said like this seems like one of the most

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likely situations that he's going to get traded. I think

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it makes sense if you know you can't pay him.

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It is and is huge that he's able to come

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back if he does pitch on Saturday. We don't want

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to say anything as for certain because I'm just gonna

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throw this out here. Corbyn Burns was starting his throwing program,

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though he's a different story. Corbyn Burns on Saturday or

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Friday through then on Tuesday he threw. He was just

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throwing these like lives at the complex and he suffered

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a strained terrorist whatever. He's now going to be out

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for like multiple more months and they have to stop

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his rehab. So I when things like that can happen.

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When Scooble just went and did his little school scope here,

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anything could happen and then it could backtrack. But if

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he's through sixty four simulated, which stupid Corbyn Burns couldn't

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go through, and then he has a rehab assignment, you're

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gonna get Scooble back. And I would probably say like

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like two more like two triple A starts or two

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minor league starts, I think, and then he'll be back

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up that that's huge for fantasy owners. If he comes

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back and let's say he's you know, he goes through

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he's coming back up to the majors. Are you wanting

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to immediately trade him if you're a fantasy owner of

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the concerns or not even think twice about it because

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of the you know, like he could be traded to

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a great team. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna end up with the Dodgers and

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win a bunch of games on the stretch. So I

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think for the most part, I'm gonna hold Scoop bl

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I'll listen to deals because I know people are gonna

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be desperate for pitching. There's lots of upside if he

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gets traded to Philly or La or wherever, you know,

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just a much better team that will get him wins

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behind him. So I think I'll listen. But for the

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most part, it's going to take a godfather offer, the

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one you can't refuse. And I think that's why the

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Tigers hit here and say, well, we're not listening. Yes

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you are, you are, Uh, you're listening, but you say

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you're not listening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you say you're not listening for optics, and you know,

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maybe it helps tear it sleep at night or whatever.

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But after seeing what happened to the Angels franchise when

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they didn't trade Otani and he goes and signs with

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the Dodgers, you have to trade this guy. That's just

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the way the economics work in baseball. You have to

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go trade him, extend him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, unless you have sat there and had a

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legitimate conversation where the money that Scoble wants is within

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reason of what you can do, right, and if those

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equal out, then I think.

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Speaker 3: But that that extension has to be done before the

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trade deadline then right.

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Speaker 2: But I think more than anything it like you say

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this type of stuff, because then you make it more

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possible that the trade options that Lancepress did on MLP

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network are more viable than the people that were like

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yelling at him about you know what some of those

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look like. So big picture news kind of across the board,

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you know, with Turk Scooble obviously, Corbyn Burns is out,

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Garrett Crochet also a low grade lat strain. He was

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kind of like stopped and there's no definitive timetable, the

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horrible news. I mean, Jesus Christ, dude, look at this.

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This is like three or four of the top pictures

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in fantasy we're talking about right now, and there's just

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outside of Chris Sanchez and I guess so Tani. There's

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just so much uncertainty around all these guys, and Gary

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Crochet being pushed back is just like brtal absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean every year we do this too, I feel like,

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and every year there's still pictures in the first round.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but Skien, Scooble and Crochet were all

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good last year and all healthy, so we did the

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worst thing we had. But it's every year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but go look at who were the first pictures

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off the board in the previous draft, and it was

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the guys that stayed healthy, right, and we keep taking

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them in the first round. It's not it's not the

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names themselves to me or the talent all these guys.

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It's just why are we taking pitching in the first

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round when it is so questionable stay healthy throughout the year.

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I just can't do it, and I'm going to continue

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to not do it. It's going to be second round

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at the earliest for pitching just in the future from.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I don't think that's like a statement though, Like.

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Speaker 3: It's not, but but we do it every single year.

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It's every year.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just there's a person that's ranked in there

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and person people take them. I just think pitching is

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like I don't feel definitive, like, oh my god, you

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just cannot take high pitching and you only got to

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take late guys. It's like, well, no, all the late guys,

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by the way, the great one, the great dudes are

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all going to be super high guys. Now. It's just balanced.

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It's finding a.

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Speaker 3: Mistake first round with hitters too though, right, Like I

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thought Kyle Tucker is gonna be great and he's been miserable. Yeah,

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so there are misses, yes, with both positions, But I

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think the overarching statement should be like, look, just pitching

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gets hurt more often. You can't take it over first

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round hitters.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, I do feel like that maybe to

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your point, that did get a little pushed under the

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blanket or an the rug type of thing.

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Speaker 3: Rug.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was push I didn't want to.

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Speaker 3: I did a welshism yesterday on a show and I

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was like damn it, he's infecting my brain like medicine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably more of the cough medicine than from

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my but yeah, uh, I do think it's like a

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like we did kind of blinders it a little bit

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because because it was like whoa Schooble, Schimes, Crochet, they

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were also elite and then this year they did get

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pressed up. There's definitely a chance that next year is

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going to be weird because you're gonna have all these

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top guys that got hurt or whatever, and where Christopher

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the season ended today, where should Christopher Sanchez go? Yeah,

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I think it's like, but this is what I was

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kind of getting at, like in theory second or third,

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like probably second round if we're being honest. But what

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you're gonna have is you're gonna have this collection of

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00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,240
here's Grubey where it's like scheme Scooble Crochet. Then you're

474
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,200
gonna have Group B that's Chris Sanchez and maybe Yamamoto,

475
00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:08,279
and then you have Group C, which is gonna be

476
00:22:08,319 --> 00:22:11,640
all the dudes that we're talking about drafting outside the

477
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,920
top one hundred, Miserrawski, Chase Burns, Nolan McClain, cam schlittler tregas.

478
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,559
Speaker 3: All the guys that make it to the end of

479
00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:20,279
the season are.

480
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: All gonna shove themselves up. So how is that going

481
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,079
to materialize? When I think people will probably be more

482
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,680
likely to not take them in the first because of them.

483
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,920
But then is it gonna just be off free for

484
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,400
all in the second third, maybe early fourth round to

485
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,119
get all of those guys and then we're kind of

486
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,359
back to square one again, like it might be a

487
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,279
version of that.

488
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: And we're kind of going off the rails here a

489
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,319
little bit. But I just I want to get your

490
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:45,839
opinion on this too. What do you think about the

491
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,160
new way some of these teams are approaching the bullpen

492
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,880
and letting these guys go on these piggyback start It's

493
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,440
five innings for the first starter and then four or

494
00:22:55,559 --> 00:22:58,359
like three and two thirds or whatever it is for

495
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,319
the second guy. I think we're gonna just gonna see

496
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,680
more and more of that moving forward because it's starting

497
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,160
to work.

498
00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:06,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the only team that's like really doing it

499
00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:08,880
to a degree that's screwing with stuff is the Mariners. Like,

500
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,200
is there another team that did a.

501
00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: Go look, go look right now at the non closer

502
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,200
saves from this week on your sheet. Yeah, yeah, because

503
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,480
I think it's three or four of them happened this week.

504
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,559
Speaker 2: Like on the Monday or the Thursday sheet. Because of

505
00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:30,240
the Thursday sheet, I don't I don't see any nclosed Junis. No,

506
00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:32,559
I'm looking at it like Jacob Junie.

507
00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 3: Junice and then Watson Ryan Watson through three innings and

508
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,160
then Heesu's through four.

509
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: Innings as well.

510
00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:42,799
Speaker 3: Okay, but I guess I just think I think this

511
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,640
trend is going to start ticking up, uh, just you know,

512
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,839
for bullpens in general.

513
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess maybe I mistook what you said. I

514
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,640
thought you were saying, like, is the piggyback situation for

515
00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:56,279
starters going to be an issue?

516
00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:57,759
Speaker 3: So that's why I don't think it's going to be

517
00:23:57,799 --> 00:23:59,799
an issue. I think it makes bullpens an issue more

518
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:00,480
than anything.

519
00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:03,079
Speaker 2: Well, that's a closer conversation. Then that's like more of.

520
00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:05,599
Speaker 3: A well it's a pitching conversation, which is, wow, we're

521
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,839
just talking about pitching. Yeah.

522
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: Well, but I mean, also, though to your point.

523
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 3: If because I limit some of those guys innings, you know,

524
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,599
that's that's.

525
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: A fair point. Like if if the team like the

526
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,680
Dodgers were to do something like that, if they were

527
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,079
to take like a Emmit Sheehan and say he's now

528
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,279
our bulk reliever and we do this three times a

529
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:26,279
week where he goes three innings and he gets saves

530
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:29,599
and stuff. That's weird. But like the only version from

531
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,119
a starting pitcher standpoint is the Mariners that are doing

532
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,839
like two viable starters that are piggybacking, and it's screwing

533
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,799
everything up. If teams did see that and started doing that,

534
00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:42,319
they're like fads. Fads are super popular, you know, And

535
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,880
I think that's what I think that's what we're starting

536
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,880
to see because but the Mariners hate it though the

537
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,039
players hate it. So that's something like I think that

538
00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:50,279
one specifically is the one that is just not going

539
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,160
to go over well in baseball. Six man rotations I

540
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,559
think could get bigger. To your point, I think there

541
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:58,359
could be these more like longer leveragy guys that get

542
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,839
saves and stuff like that, Like real starters being transformed

543
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,440
into piggybacks. I think that's the thing that players are

544
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,319
just going to get too pissed about. Probably, to be

545
00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:09,880
honest with you, I've bet MLP PA would be like,

546
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,160
don't do this. We don't want to see this stuff.

547
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: This is gonna hurt or or add a new stat

548
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,880
for it, you know, long save or something.

549
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, but oh yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, like

550
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,319
what would that be, like a long.

551
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just have to you'd have to make a

552
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,400
stat for it.

553
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: We don't have enough of that, right, We'll call it

554
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,640
whatever you want. What are we going to call it?

555
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: Welsh Welsh bucks, Welsh shaves.

556
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: No, it's got to be something like middle, like a

557
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,279
like a middle mid saves. Yeah, yeah, like a yeah,

558
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,680
this guy's mid. That'll be great in arbitration. So my

559
00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:46,200
guy was the best mid pitcher in baseball. So I

560
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,880
don't know that. I think there's a luckily, when we

561
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,839
don't have baseball next year, we are going to be

562
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:54,599
able to do so many episodes about pitching because there's

563
00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:56,480
so many interesting things to see.

564
00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: What thought you were all positive about the labor agreement?

565
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:04,079
Speaker 2: What I was the recent stuff I don't think is good.

566
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:08,440
They're getting heavy into like players share stuff and they

567
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:13,440
like when when the MLBPA guy was like this is

568
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:18,839
worse than the ninety four offer. I was like, oh, oh,

569
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,000
guy like we're already it's June. We're already gonna start

570
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:25,160
talking like this, like that's not good. But I don't know.

571
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,240
They're all greedy, so like money, money should be the

572
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,599
factor that says let's get this done before. But I

573
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,480
think posturing there's no way this is done before March

574
00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:37,599
because it wasn't the last big one. It was like

575
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:40,920
just before, just at March where they could not be like,

576
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,960
I think that's the like the feet are gonna start

577
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,160
getting dug in the sand more and it's just gonna

578
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,359
feel uncomfortable, like we're we're so far away from it

579
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,279
that we could hear some people be like I don't

580
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:53,920
think we're gonna miss games, and we could be like, yeah,

581
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720
you know what, maybe great, But like when it becomes

582
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,799
January and the two sides were it'll be like Congress,

583
00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:02,160
you know, like when Congress is like it's like a break.

584
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:05,960
Yeah they're they're there, we have a I'm forgetting what

585
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240
it's called. Like when there's no like government's a break,

586
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,720
yeahun government shutdown. When there's a government shutdown, and then

587
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,880
they're just like yeah, we're just not gonna talk for

588
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
two weeks and we're just like what like when that

589
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,960
happens in baseball and it's like they're like, we're gonna meet,

590
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:21,000
you know, a month from now. That's where I'm gonna

591
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,799
start panicking and start having to come up with some

592
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:29,200
evergreen content. But pitching will be, uh the thing that

593
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:30,720
keeps on giving here. All right, Now, we did go

594
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,079
off the rails, but that was fun. Uh tell Marte

595
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,359
miss Wednesday would lower back and hamstring issues. I don't.

596
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: He's look gampy rounding the basis. I feel like every

597
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,599
time he rounds the bases.

598
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,279
Speaker 2: They said like he was sore and they were just

599
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:46,759
trying to take care of him. I don't think this

600
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:48,119
is a thing.

601
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,839
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a long term thing either. I

602
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,599
think he'll be back in the lineup tonight. But it is,

603
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,799
you know, it's eyebrow raising if nothing else.

604
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, we and we and he was on

605
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,359
a great role, so we don't want to see too

606
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,279
much miss time. Cal Raley is going to be again

607
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,039
a rehab assignment with hi A on Sunday, so i'd

608
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:08,519
imagine I think it's probably like part of a week.

609
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,759
He'd be back by the weekend, So I guess that's good.

610
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:12,519
And see it. See if you can get back to

611
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:16,519
like original versions. Mikel Garcia is now up to four

612
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,799
games missed. Have we looked today on when we look

613
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:24,480
at MLB lineups here for the Royals, it is make

614
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,039
it five unless you were already counting that because he

615
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,640
is not in the lineup today again, what io?

616
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think they're getting to that point

617
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:36,480
where they'll they'll retroact with him, so I only misses

618
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:39,880
like whatever five to ten more days. But I think

619
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,680
that's where it's gonna end up having to go at

620
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,000
this point, let's hee pinch hits or pinch runs or something.

621
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that's true. It could just be like close,

622
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,240
but it's not quite there. Mikel Gara. No, they just

623
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,839
did that. Zach Netto sat three straight games with a

624
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,720
neck injury, so a couple middle ish type of infield

625
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,799
play today. I don't think they even play today. It's

626
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,759
a good look. Nope, they're weird hearing you say that

627
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:03,480
the Halo's the Halos.

628
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,599
Speaker 3: I've been to that stadium a bunch of times. From

629
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,640
how many lived in Orange County?

630
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,519
Speaker 2: How many teams have a nickname that isn't attached to

631
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,400
their name?

632
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: I think a decent amount name one other the m's.

633
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: Never heard the m's never never heard the.

634
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,279
Speaker 3: M's for the Mariners. You never heard them called the ms.

635
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:27,720
Hat that said MS.

636
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:31,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, but that's kind of like mariners.

637
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,119
Speaker 3: Like the Halos athletics in the a's.

638
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,559
Speaker 2: That's just an abbreviation of like the A. Do you

639
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,359
get what I'm saying here? I guess you're not robout

640
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,240
the pirates and the Buckos they're called good one. Go

641
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000
Bucos is a great one. Okay? That okay? That's two.

642
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,480
Is there anything any others that's a perfect I.

643
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,519
Speaker 3: Know there are definitely. I mean the Marlins are called

644
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:49,640
the fish sometimes.

645
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,839
Speaker 2: Never heard that. I want to look at teams now

646
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,079
and see unofficial nicknames. Yeah, like like to that degree,

647
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:00,440
blue jays, no orioles, no red socks.

648
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,039
Speaker 3: Any bird team you can just call the birds. Yeah,

649
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:08,799
I mean gay bird. It's mainly an equal thing.

650
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,519
Speaker 2: The Cardinal fans never been like go Saint Louis birds.

651
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:16,119
Speaker 3: Gay birds, birds versus bears here, I think.

652
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,839
Speaker 2: Buccos and Halos might be it. Someone let me know

653
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,039
if I'm wrong. If you can figure out another one here?

654
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:23,200
Oh uh, Padres friars.

655
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: Friars there you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind of

656
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,799
People call them the dads sometimes too, the dead friar.

657
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,279
I've never heard the padre is father, Yeah, no, I

658
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,599
but it's for the monks, right, So you call them

659
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,240
friar because friar is a type of monk. But anything,

660
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,519
you've never heard anyone call the padres the dads.

661
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,359
Speaker 2: Not. I'm wearing as a.

662
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: Podcast that is like the San Diego Dads or something.

663
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: Never heard it. We met those guys and you just

664
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960
don't remember it. I tell you, those dads that did

665
00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,160
the rap song, they're the worst. Like that's what's I

666
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,519
came across my timeline like two weeks ago and I

667
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:05,920
was like, God, this sucks. I forgot how much this sucks.

668
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: It's it's along the lines of all the reels I've

669
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:09,279
been sending you recently.

670
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:13,279
Speaker 2: So cringe. I'm trying so hard not to look at

671
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:16,279
Bogman's reels. He's trying to f up my algorithm.

672
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,359
Speaker 3: I sent you one yesterday and I said, look, this

673
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,400
is when you'll genuine.

674
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,039
Speaker 2: I haven't clicked on him because, like I clicked on

675
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:22,119
like five, it wasn't.

676
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: A cringy one the one, the one that I sent

677
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,480
you with the note is not a cringey one.

678
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:28,079
Speaker 2: Just look at that. When I had a realization, Bogmin

679
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,839
was sent me one and I was like, I hate this,

680
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,559
and then he sent me four more and I listened

681
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:33,119
to them, and then I was like, you're trying to

682
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:34,400
screw up my algorithm.

683
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying. You are, well, it's just it's funny.

684
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:42,359
Speaker 2: If it were like mid forties white women rapping and

685
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,759
it is like, ah, it's bad.

686
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,559
Speaker 3: I sent you a bunch of dudes too. You didn't

687
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:46,920
see them.

688
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: No, I stopped. I had to stop watching because I

689
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,079
was like, my whole algorithm, dude.

690
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: I one of them was a guy like wrapping in

691
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:55,880
front of a nursing home.

692
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,079
Speaker 2: I watched Project Hill Mary. It to Bogman, who said,

693
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,319
this is going to be amazing. It is. It is

694
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,000
now my son's favorite movie of all time. He has

695
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,279
said it is his favorite movie of all time. I

696
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:12,079
love it. He sent me one Project Hail Mary, like

697
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,839
funny reel I have. Every third reel now is something

698
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,440
about Harry Styles and sign of the Times. It's something

699
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,400
about every other reel is about that. So like your

700
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,839
I can't have every other reel be a forty five

701
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,559
year old white woman trying to wrap. I can't do that.

702
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:32,640
That's not acceptable.

703
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,759
Speaker 3: What if they're on Spotify then they have a real album.

704
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,119
You don't want to hear some music?

705
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: I don't not that, not theirs? Absolutely not all right,

706
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,319
Josh today, then okay, something else. I'll send me anything

707
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:51,720
else in those women, not the women. I jesus, this

708
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:56,880
is how you know you've gotten old. The content of

709
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,319
the women that you're sending me is completely.

710
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, well well you know what. This is

711
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,759
not the place for my thought.

712
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,559
Speaker 2: I just had so No, it's really Josh Hader returned

713
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,920
from the I l good, Outing'll go. Was it a

714
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:14,799
was it a save situation? Yeah? He got to save.

715
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: They wanted to Uh it was either extras or they

716
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,680
came back and he got the save.

717
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,319
Speaker 2: And it's all good. Everything's all good. All the worries

718
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:24,039
and stuff. He's back. Now he gets to saves all

719
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,160
those other losers. We can stop worrying about. SEMy Wood

720
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,519
Richardson was traded to Toronto for cash after being dfaid.

721
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,799
Nick Castianos was designated for assignment because he stunk. He

722
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,559
stunk bad. I don't know if there's going to be

723
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,079
a home I don't know what it's going to be

724
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,599
great on TV. Yeah, well, and there's kind of a

725
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,400
loud mouth and like that's people have a problem with that.

726
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: But or like post game for the Phillies or something like.

727
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,200
I don't I think he's got a career in media

728
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:56,359
if he wants it. I don't think it's this year though.

729
00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:57,799
I don't think it's this year. I think he's still

730
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:00,480
trying to like recoup baseball and stuff. I don't know

731
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,319
what team is, probably try to play again, and then

732
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,279
when that team DFAs him, then yeah, I think he

733
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:07,559
could be in the booth for a long time.

734
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,119
Speaker 2: He's a dude that's on like a minor league deal

735
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,199
with the White Sox in spring training next year, you

736
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,159
know what I mean. Like that's sure like he's just

737
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,559
trying to recliment in the July spring training. Yeah.

738
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,119
Speaker 3: By the way, if they have to do spring training

739
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,800
two months later, where are they going to do it?

740
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think it'll be similar to COVID, like

741
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,119
resident like around COVID, where like they were just in

742
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,920
their own ballparks, you know what I mean, Like the

743
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:37,039
Rangers and Astrons college team or something exactly right. It'll

744
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,719
be like they'll just do inner squad type of stuff

745
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,119
and if there's like a team that's close to them,

746
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:45,599
they'll play. If spring training gets pushed to April, you're fine.

747
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,559
They'll be totally fine. If it's in May, it's pretty dicey.

748
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,679
You cannot in June. It's one hundredgrees today, Like I

749
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,360
mean they I will say this, they do play complex

750
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,280
league here because it's forty eyes. It's not no because

751
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,760
they play at six pm. If they could commit to

752
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,639
doing all the games at at night, then I think

753
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:08,119
you're fine. Like that's how they do rookie ball here.

754
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:10,320
It gets hot. July is the worst, but you could

755
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,239
still do it. But yeah, to your point, I have

756
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,920
no idea. The last thing on this, and then a

757
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,960
couple of players coming back. Nouelbe Marte recalled from Triple

758
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,719
A after absolutely dominating and TJ Friedele was sent down,

759
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,880
and I think it's a huge statement and I'm kind

760
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,599
of bullish on Neobe Marte right now. Just want to

761
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:31,559
pick them up, you know, potential up in the lineup

762
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:34,000
because you got l E out for some time and

763
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,400
for them to give out on TJ. Friedel, to me,

764
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,519
has to be a statement that it's like, we're going

765
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:41,440
to give Marte a look. Also saw some stuff out

766
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,639
there that the Reds might just be a seller at

767
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:47,440
this point. I think we've kind of me and Jove

768
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:49,880
jokingly did did the whole like, well, you know, the

769
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,639
Reds need bullpen help and our old this is out there.

770
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,480
The Reds are bottom of the Central.

771
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 3: Even though that's still a game over five hundred.

772
00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:59,519
Speaker 2: No, no, I understand that. I don't think we're there yet,

773
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,480
but they are bottom of the Central. They might be

774
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:03,480
in a place where they're starting to look at what

775
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,599
do we have, you know, like let's let some of

776
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,519
the young guys see if they can catch fire, and

777
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,559
if they continue losing something, they might be sellers. What

778
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:13,079
I'm getting at is I think there's a path regardless

779
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,159
that's really good for Nueolvi Martin. I'm picking him up

780
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:17,519
in twelveteen if he is available, which is probably not.

781
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,519
Speaker 3: Reds are one and a half games out of a

782
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:21,440
wildcard spot.

783
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I get. That's what makes it really tricky.

784
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,920
It makes baseball tricky. Right now, everybody is still like

785
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:30,159
who is actually not within the.

786
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,519
Speaker 3: Holding the spots right now. It's crazy to listen to

787
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,119
this holding the spot right now. The three spots are

788
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,440
Saint Louis Philly in Pittsburgh in the NL. In the NL, yeah,

789
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,960
and then the Diamondbacks and Potters are both a half

790
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,639
game behind. The Cubs are a game behind, the Reds

791
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,320
are one and a half games behind, The Nationals are

792
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,159
two and a half. The Marlins are four and a half,

793
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:52,639
the furthest out, the Mets are six, and then the

794
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:54,719
Giants are nine and the Rockies are ninety.

795
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: Nine and a half. Is still doable. That's the problem

796
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,519
with the trade deadline and the wild card and all that. Everybody,

797
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,920
you want to know what's worse the AL the worst

798
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,360
team in baseball the Angels. There's seven games back from

799
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,280
wild card. That's insane. They are only seven games back.

800
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,320
So for anybody, credit to the team that decides we're

801
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,239
out of it and we're gonna trade now, because you're

802
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,199
gonna have the whole league looking at you. So if

803
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,840
a team does come to that decision, god bless you,

804
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,039
but everybody's in. It's why the Tigers are not wanting

805
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,079
to trade yet. It's why the stinky Royals are not

806
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:31,000
even out of it. It's it's super weird. Speaking of

807
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,079
the Royals, Cole Reagan's resumed playing catch on Monday. There's

808
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,519
still no timetable, but that is a good sign. A

809
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,320
Hunter Brown is going to make a rehabit start on Friday,

810
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,639
so we're gonna get at least one of those top

811
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:45,480
pitchers coming back relatively soon as well. Max Freed has

812
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,679
been clear to ramp up throwing. He's been thrown from

813
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,880
flat grounds, so you know, maybe you know that timeline

814
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,960
in July. Dylan Ceze is going to make a rehab

815
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,519
assignment on Thursday, so again the top funnel of the

816
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:58,199
pitching market is going to get a little bit better.

817
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,519
AJ Puck started. He's actually been on a rehab assignment

818
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,239
for a little bit. He had done two rehab assignments

819
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,480
with the ACL Diamondbacks and then he's going to tipple a.

820
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:13,679
He's real close. You know what, Well, never mind, I

821
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,119
was gonna say he might be a super sneaky pickup

822
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:19,559
right now for saves, but Paul Seawald has just been

823
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,679
too shut down. If you're a holds I love AJ

824
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,039
Puck right now. If you want to be super forward thinking,

825
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:30,159
the Diamondbacks would probably, Like there's another article out there

826
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:34,400
that the Diamondbacks, you know, are they sell, They're probably

827
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,199
going to sell. If they do sell, Paul Sewald would

828
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,760
be like one of the most obvious guys to go.

829
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,440
And I think a J. Puck would be thrown into

830
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,360
a save role, but that's a little bit down the line. Also,

831
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,360
Lordis Gurriel is begining the Diamondbacks, is not going to

832
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,440
be coming up when first eligible, but he's going to

833
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,920
begin a rehab assignment on Monday. So some Diamondback news.

834
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Jacob Wilson is starting rehab assignment later this week, so

835
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:58,199
that's good. Edward Cabrera was activated on Saturday, and her

836
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:01,559
Man Marquez is starting a rehab assignment with the Padres.

837
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:03,920
So a lot any anything of note that really jumps

838
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,599
out to you of any other.

839
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I was excited about Marquez getting out of

840
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:09,199
Called Auto and playing for San Diego, so.

841
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: Excited I was too, but it was wrong. Yeah excited.

842
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: Well maybe he was injured, right, so maybe he'll have something,

843
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,519
but that's not a big one.

844
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,679
Speaker 2: I like that.

845
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: I think Puck, I think you're right in your first thought.

846
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,280
I think Puck can lead Thenebacks and saves for the

847
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,840
rest of the year, like Paul Seawad's been great, but

848
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,320
he gives up twoesdaves in a row. Just put Puck

849
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,280
in there because he's gonna be the guy next year anyway,

850
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,400
so him and Martinez.

851
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: So just put him in there now. If you're like

852
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,320
real speculative market for this stuff, like a j Puck

853
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,159
is a great pick up right now, just because also

854
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,719
he's gonna get strikeouts and he might be there's a

855
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,719
chance Lavello could go back to that fireman role where

856
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,039
it was like Puck is actually going to get a

857
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,760
save opportunity if there's like some lefties coming up in

858
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,840
the ninth like hell love doing that.

859
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: So and Jacob Wilson was starting to turn around before

860
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,360
he got hurt. So glad to see he's close to

861
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,920
coming back.

862
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take a break. When we come back,

863
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,039
it's guess who. Bogman has put together four versions of

864
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:09,320
two players that I do not know their names. We're

865
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,880
gonna do stats. I'm gonna have to see if I

866
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,599
can guess, and they'll be definitely a narrative built around it.

867
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:15,599
So these are always fun. So let's take a break.

868
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:18,639
We come back. It is guess who Fantasy Baseball edition

869
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,920
right here, and in this league. I swear to God,

870
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,559
I'll pistol whip the next guy that.

871
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Says you in this league, Hey, Farva, what's the name

872
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:29,280
of that restaurantue?

873
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:29,559
Speaker 4: Life?

874
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: Of all the mazurellistis me in this league?

875
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,079
Speaker 2: All right, Bobs, you have got four different players. Looks

876
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,199
like they're all hitters. So this is a hitter edition

877
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,800
that you're thrown at me. I have not even like

878
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,320
really looked or stared at this. Let me ask you preemptively.

879
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,519
Are these definitely gonna feel like big name, small name

880
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,239
production versus each other? Are you gonna get me?

881
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: I would say, there's a bigger name in all these,

882
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:02,000
so know, and but like.

883
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna be like JJ Bleda versus Yourdan Alvarez or

884
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,280
JJ Blade versus like Kyle Tucker.

885
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,599
Speaker 3: Not that big, no, no, no, no, not that big on

886
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:12,000
any of them. The last one is the biggest difference,

887
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,360
I would say. But I also have their preseason rank

888
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,079
and their current rank in here, so you can.

889
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,519
Speaker 2: Tell, oh, okay, so do this. I have not looked,

890
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,880
okay at that. You want me to get rid of it? Yeah,

891
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,119
get rid of it and don't and don't say it,

892
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,920
so okay, because I feel like that, like that could

893
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,400
be a hint.

894
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,119
Speaker 3: If you don't like it, will but but I did,

895
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:33,039
I got rid of it, so you can look again.

896
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: Okay.

897
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: But but you're you're right in your uh, in your

898
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,360
initial process of there's a big name and a lower name.

899
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:41,039
Speaker 2: That's all.

900
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: That's how these were. Yeah, yeah, exactly, So let's go.

901
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,880
The first one is a season long. The next three

902
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,639
I did over the last month. And this is Yahoo

903
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,559
at about two thirty in the morning yesterday, so it

904
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:54,400
might might be missing Wednesday stats.

905
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: But okay, uh.

906
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: For the season, Player A fifty three of two nineteen.

907
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,119
That's a two forty two average, runs, fifteen homers, forty

908
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:06,920
one RBIs, nine stolen bases, so pretty good year. This

909
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,440
person ranks inside the top twenty, which is really good.

910
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:12,199
Player B also a very good player, sixty five of

911
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:14,079
two twenty six, so that batting average is where the

912
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,719
biggest difference is two eighty eight to two forty two

913
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,440
in player b's favor, but fewer runs thirty nine to

914
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:23,239
forty six for player B as thirty nine in player

915
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,280
AS forty six. Homer's big big difference fifteen for player A,

916
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,719
three for player B. RBI also a big difference twenty

917
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,079
one to forty one, but stolen bases are the same

918
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:34,679
at nine.

919
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you this right now, I

920
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,840
already know who player A is. Okay, just happened to Well,

921
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,159
I'm just to set the stage because I looked at

922
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:47,480
this guy earlier today when I was working on ranks,

923
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:50,280
or yesterday when I was working on ranks. So I

924
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,559
feel ninety five percent confident I know who player A is,

925
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,599
clearly knowing player B is the bigger named player and

926
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,159
player A is the lower name player. That's only and

927
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,800
you would do this, Player A is Miguel Vargas. Yes,

928
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,400
that's correct, So I'm ninety five percent. I was assured

929
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,079
because I even was shocked. You know, just the season

930
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:13,000
goes on. I do a daily show and stuff like that,

931
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,039
but when you hyper focus, when I saw fifteen homers,

932
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:18,519
nine stolen bases, I was like, what, Like, holy crap,

933
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:21,800
Miguel Vargas is having the insane season. The only thing

934
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,480
that's so funny about him is Miguel Vargas was like

935
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:27,199
an on base like average type of guy, Like he

936
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,960
always felt like he was going to hit two eighty.

937
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: BEFO.

938
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 2: If you would have said, hey, Migel Vargus is going

939
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,719
to hit thirty homers and hit two forty, or Miguel

940
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,159
Vargus is going to hit two eighty with fifteen homers,

941
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:40,760
I would say the two eighty all the time.

942
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, in his big league career, he

943
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,400
hasn't hit higher than uh two thirty four.

944
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,119
Speaker 2: I know that's my average is to eleven. That's my

945
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:51,519
minor league bull crap that like sticks with me. So

946
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:55,199
I knew that was Miguel Vargas. As player A player

947
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,199
B is tricky. Oh, I think I know who player

948
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,599
BE is because I know this player has three homers

949
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:04,400
and nine stolen bases, But I don't know if his

950
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,119
average is dipped? Is player be Kevin McGonagall, that's correct.

951
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:11,760
I'm amazing at you, and I told you to get

952
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,639
rid of the hints on here. I am incredible at this.

953
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,639
His averages dipped down to two eighty, and now I

954
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:19,719
see your gimmick here. It's guys that qualify a third

955
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,199
base two third basement against each other. Huge stats, and

956
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,360
to be fair to your point, the preseason rank would

957
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,880
have given nothing away on this one.

958
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,679
Speaker 3: I don't think it would happen. But the current rank

959
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,840
is Miguel Vargas is eighteenth.

960
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, who do you want.

961
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: For the rest of the season. You want Vargus fro McGonagall.

962
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: So I'm going to stick with McGonagall. But I do

963
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,719
feel like I'm being disrespectful to Miguel Vargas because I've

964
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,920
had this. I've had this four piece that's really important

965
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:58,320
to me, barrel launch angle, pulled air percentage, and low strikeouts,

966
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,199
And by god, is he mark every single one of

967
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,639
those fourteen point eight percent barrel percent over five percent

968
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:10,400
higher than last year. Nineteen degree launch angle, ridiculous, career best,

969
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,800
twenty three point nine percent pulled air percentage elite, and

970
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,079
a sixteen point nine percent K percentage. He's kind of

971
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,159
like Murkami. How do you have a fifteen percent walk

972
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,559
rate a sixteen percent K percentage but hit two forty

973
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,559
and his zone contact rates in the eighties, so it's

974
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:27,559
just like miss stuff.

975
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: It went from two fifteen to two point fifty only

976
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,159
three games in June, so he's over four hundred. But

977
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,480
I mean, if he hits three hundred in June, we

978
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:38,800
might just see an ascending batting average for a guy

979
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,800
that is pulling the ball well and hitting it out

980
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,280
of the park.

981
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,559
Speaker 2: I might be wrong about this too, because he's got

982
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,559
an XBA that's twenty points higher at two sixty two.

983
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,639
Speaker 3: How does he have fewer at bats when h McGonagall

984
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:51,679
came up late too.

985
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,519
Speaker 2: It's just like, I guess I keep staring at McGonagall

986
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:56,760
and thinking he's going to be close to a three

987
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,639
hundred hitter, twenty five stolen bases, ten to fifteen homers,

988
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:02,639
But like, that doesn't matter.

989
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,159
Speaker 3: If if Vargus Marcus has the same stolen bases and

990
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,239
if he.

991
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: Gets thirty homers twenty stolen bases in his ninety five

992
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,559
ninety five, it's you know what, I think it's Miguel

993
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:13,360
Vargas that actually doing this. But by the way, can

994
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,760
I point out have I ever in the history of

995
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,039
doing this over ten minutes, have I ever gotten both

996
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:22,960
names without without missing? I don't think you have but

997
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,880
zero hens? Yeah, zero hens too.

998
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,519
Speaker 3: I purposely went down to a month because I was like, man,

999
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:31,480
he's doing a lot of baseball content. He might just

1000
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:35,440
know stats for some players. That's why why I went

1001
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,239
down to thirty days for the next three.

1002
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 2: To be fair, you were smart about that could be

1003
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,760
because to be fair to fifteen to nine. Literally, when

1004
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,760
I saw migul Vargas, I was like Jesus, and I

1005
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,280
just know that mcgonagall's at that three nine with a

1006
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,440
high batting average. So that actually probably did snatch it

1007
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,039
a little bit for me. Sor right, So let's go

1008
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:55,480
to I'm very just proud of myself there. Now let's

1009
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:56,039
humble me.

1010
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: With uh, yeah, this is probably gonna humble you. Over

1011
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,159
the last thirty days, Player A thirty four for one eleven.

1012
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:06,639
That's a three zero six batting average, nineteen runs, three homers,

1013
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:10,320
sixteen rbi, four sole on bases for player A player.

1014
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:12,639
Speaker 2: B three toho six batting average, three h six batting average.

1015
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:16,079
Speaker 3: Player B significantly fewer at bats twenty two of eighty seven.

1016
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,039
That's a two fifty three average, fifteen runs, seven homers,

1017
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,039
thirteen rbi and three solear basis. So get way more

1018
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,480
average out of player A over the last thirty days,

1019
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:31,159
way more power out of player B seven homers to three.

1020
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1021
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 3: And obviously you know player B is the higher you

1022
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,280
higher preseason ranked name by a decent margin. So uh,

1023
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,440
these two players, let me know when you want position.

1024
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna Unfortunately, I don't even know

1025
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:49,400
if I can throw a guess immediately off, though I will. Well,

1026
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,559
I feel like I might have had a guess for playing.

1027
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:56,119
So the player B would be a guy that has

1028
00:47:56,119 --> 00:48:00,519
either missed time or his platoon. But here's the miss

1029
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,960
is not okay? Well, because I was gonna say if

1030
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,519
it was a platoon player, he I don't think he

1031
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:08,000
would have been the higher ranked play because I would

1032
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:10,679
put players in here. Well, I'm like Jock Peterson was

1033
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,039
the one that came to my mind. So okay, not Yeah,

1034
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,440
let's go with the first hint before I give a guess.

1035
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:21,119
Speaker 3: Outfielders. Both outfielders Player A n L, player B A L.

1036
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,679
Speaker 2: Okay, oh those are big guesses you gave me, Okay,

1037
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:28,960
Player A n L hitting three hundred three homers, four

1038
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,679
stolen bases his player A. I don't think this is right,

1039
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,679
Carson Ben.

1040
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that is right, Carson Bench. I'm are you cheating?

1041
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,679
Speaker 2: I dude, you can actually see me. You can see

1042
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,960
me here like and and I'm actually using my computer webcam,

1043
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:48,760
so if I were you would see like my hands

1044
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,840
doing this, so and I closed my eyes when I

1045
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,119
said that.

1046
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: If you were watching me, uh yeah, yeah. So Carson

1047
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,840
Bench is player eight. You have a guess a player

1048
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,840
bo put against Carson Bench.

1049
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: It's a high. Yeah, there's more homers of the two fifty.

1050
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,679
Speaker 3: Average and missed time in the last month.

1051
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to go in the al Yeah. I

1052
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,119
need to see al teams real quick. I'm not cheating,

1053
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:17,000
I promise you. I'm looking at just al teams miss time.

1054
00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:20,960
Give me one more second because I'm gonna give you

1055
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,400
a guess.

1056
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,079
Speaker 3: Oh, it should be so much saier than Carson Bench

1057
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,360
Fyron box.

1058
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: Yes, oh i am. I've literally never been more on

1059
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,800
fire than I am right now. It's sorry.

1060
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: You won't guess either one of the next time, I'm

1061
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,159
gonna You're not gonna get any of the next four.

1062
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: So Buxton versus Carson Been that's a fascinating I mean, dude,

1063
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,199
that is one. Do not replay this for you.

1064
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 3: Carson Benge was gonna get sent down.

1065
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,679
Speaker 2: Me too, and did They tried out like a j

1066
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,719
ewing and then Nickbido came up like that's shocking.

1067
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 3: He hit one eighty nine in April. I just no,

1068
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,079
he's been ninety seven played appearances, but uh, you know

1069
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,039
three Toho six in May.

1070
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I brought. I did a video on him not

1071
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,480
so long ago, because he has been a lot better.

1072
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:17,000
This is really fascinating to see because the bust inside

1073
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:19,280
too with the homers like that, that is what he does,

1074
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,199
like he has been a big homer guy. And by

1075
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:24,039
the way, the trade market is kind of.

1076
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: He needs to get out of Minnesota. He's hitting so

1077
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,280
for so much power, but he's always the only guy

1078
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:29,760
on base.

1079
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,199
Speaker 2: So crazy crazy, Okay, so now it's gonna get really

1080
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:34,800
bad for me, right, I think?

1081
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: So, last thirty days for Player A on the third

1082
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,880
one twenty two seventy two eleven runs, five homers, seventeen

1083
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,800
RBI won some base hitting three oh six, Player B

1084
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,239
twenty seven of ninety four eleven runs, four homers, nineteen

1085
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,800
rb I won some base two eighty seven. So similar players,

1086
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,920
very similar players. Obviously one of them is much higher ranked.

1087
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,519
Speaker 2: But there's definitely not the obvious of which one. It

1088
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:06,639
is true. I feel like because both of the higher

1089
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,360
players have been Player B, you would put player as

1090
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,719
the higher one, and he's got less at bats. So

1091
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,360
am I right about that? Nope? Okay, B is the

1092
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,960
higher one that my logic screwed up. I mean, give

1093
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,119
them on.

1094
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,119
Speaker 3: I start with the player I want to highlight. Well,

1095
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:22,960
so all of the.

1096
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 2: Higher players playing to be there. Okay, well what do

1097
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,800
you easy? Hint? What do you are? Your production team

1098
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,760
were like, guess who, and they put the silhouette of

1099
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,400
the player and I guess. Hey, look I didn't do that. Yeah,

1100
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:36,360
all right, I'm gonna need your You don't have to

1101
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,159
give me both. I mean, you gave me two hints

1102
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:39,440
right off the bat. Do whatever you want, but I'm

1103
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,400
gonna need a hint before I can get my first guests.

1104
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:43,679
Speaker 3: You tell me what hit you want? You want position?

1105
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: I yes, I want position first. They're both first basemen. Okay,

1106
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:57,679
the higher players at the bottom. He's hinting. Well, okay,

1107
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,280
I think I know who player A is. Let me

1108
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,760
see if I can figure out player B real quick.

1109
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,519
I think I have a really good guess on player A. All right,

1110
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,239
Player B, All right, let me just do my guests

1111
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,920
on player A to see if okay, player A with

1112
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,920
a three or six average in the last thirty days,

1113
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,119
five homer, seventeen stolen bases. But the bats are lower

1114
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:23,559
bases hard. I'm sorry, Yeah, this actually might kill what

1115
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:27,280
I was talking about before. Is player A Paul Goldchmith incorrect?

1116
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:29,800
Damn it? All right, now we are getting humbled here.

1117
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: First one, you got wrong on your fifth Guess that's true.

1118
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: They're both first baseman's. It's the seventy two at bats

1119
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,280
that kind of screwed me up with player A here.

1120
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960
All right, let's go another hent all right, both in

1121
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,920
the n L. They're both in the NL. Okay, so

1122
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:58,960
let me stare at my let's see. Oh, I definitely

1123
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,880
think I've got one of them now, because I know

1124
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,440
this first baseman has been going ridiculous. And then the

1125
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:13,880
higher one, okay, player A Jake Bowers. Yes, crap, I'm

1126
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,800
so good. So Jake Bowers has been playing at such

1127
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,199
a stupid and ridiculous level, hitting three h six with

1128
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,519
five homers. Let me pull up his profile real quick

1129
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,400
here so we can talk about him in here in

1130
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,840
a second. So comparing Bowers against another first baseman who's

1131
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,760
going to be higher named here, but he is hitting

1132
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,159
oh it's self doing fine? But play okay, I think

1133
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:43,519
I might know this playing your logic? Is player B

1134
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,559
Freddy Freeman? Nope? Well, I'm an.

1135
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,599
Speaker 3: Idiot, You're not an idiot. Also in the central.

1136
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that might be a possibility. So now

1137
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,119
I got to really break it down. Alec Burlson, Nope, okay,

1138
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:04,199
that guy is in the central. Uh A. I like

1139
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,119
I like when m has an l in it from

1140
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:12,880
people all I just completed Michael Busch. Yep, Michael Bush.

1141
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:14,960
That's actually kind of a testament to Michael Busch because

1142
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,639
he was such a pilot garbage for a period of

1143
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:19,639
time that he turned it around to get that two

1144
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:20,880
eighty seven average.

1145
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: So I'll just put Horwitz in here because he's playing

1146
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,519
great too. There's a lot of really and I considered Goldie,

1147
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:28,679
there's a lot of first basemen playing above their head

1148
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:29,000
right now.

1149
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,639
Speaker 2: But look at Bowers. Though on the season two seventy

1150
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,440
three point fifty one, ten homers, four stolen bases, just

1151
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,639
under two hundred bats, his hard hit rate fifty three

1152
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:41,719
point six percent is top four percentile of the league

1153
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:44,480
his bats. This had to have changed. Hold on his

1154
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,559
bat speed. No, I didn't realize he had such a

1155
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:50,840
quick bat ninety six point nine, one of the fastest

1156
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,519
in baseball, and he actually had that last year as well,

1157
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,519
lowered his strikeout rate. Barreling is good. He's actually not

1158
00:54:57,559 --> 00:54:59,119
getting the ball in the air. That seems to be

1159
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:02,199
part of his change. He's stopped trying to pull the ball. Dude.

1160
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,360
Two years ago, thirty two point one percent pulled air percentage.

1161
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,079
This is one of those rare guys that he stopped

1162
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:11,039
trying to pull the ball, just like I'm gonna just

1163
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,440
hit line drives. Here. His ground ball rate has gone

1164
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:16,400
up a bit, but it's it's equated to him not

1165
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,760
getting the ball in the air. But he's striking out less,

1166
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,679
he's bareing the ball, he's hitting the ball harder than ever,

1167
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,639
and he's having some really great results. And his expect

1168
00:55:24,639 --> 00:55:27,920
a batting average is two sixty three. That supports this. Dude,

1169
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,840
Bowers is having a wildly cool season.

1170
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,559
Speaker 3: Listen to this his outside swing percentage from twenty eighteen

1171
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:36,199
to twenty twenty five. And then I'll give you this

1172
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,679
year's number. Actually, you know what I was looking at

1173
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,639
that incorrect, but it is lower this year. I thought

1174
00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:44,199
it said fourteen point five, but it' said nineteen point

1175
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:46,840
five when it's twenty point four last year. But that's

1176
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,519
the lowest of his career. His own swing percentage has

1177
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:53,920
gone down. Oh and his overall swing percentage has gone

1178
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:56,880
down as well, but his O contact has gone up,

1179
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:00,280
even though he's swinging less at it. In his zone

1180
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,000
contact has gone slightly down. But see you're looking on

1181
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:06,400
fangrafts are exactically the same.

1182
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: I am.

1183
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, because the way that Savant calculates it,

1184
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,440
he's actually gone up a full percent on his own

1185
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,880
contact eighty four point five.

1186
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 3: Crazy because fifty point two and fifty point two on here.

1187
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: That's zone contact. Yeah, are you sure fifty That doesn't

1188
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,440
sound right?

1189
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty point two On both years zone percentage Z

1190
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,880
contact was eighty seven to eighty six point three.

1191
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:33,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Z. That's what this is Z contact. Yeah, okay,

1192
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:34,239
this is zone percentage.

1193
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,599
Speaker 3: I guess this is percentages of pitches that are in

1194
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:37,679
the zone to him.

1195
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's fifty point two on here, which is like

1196
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,400
about the same. Yeah, swinging slightly least, but his own

1197
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,559
contact went up, but he's chasing last like okay, So

1198
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,760
leamask you Bowers or whoever the other.

1199
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:53,119
Speaker 3: Is is I just forgot or Michael bush um.

1200
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: Man.

1201
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: I think I think it's probably Jake Bowers for what

1202
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,679
he's done. He's been great this year. So I with

1203
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,000
Jake Bowers, Yeah.

1204
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: It kind of seems sustainable. I mean, Bush is kind

1205
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,719
of like doing he's kind of back to doing what

1206
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,519
he was doing before. He's not able to pull the

1207
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:13,599
ball as much though, so this might end up being

1208
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:15,599
kind of moot. But I think this is like, as

1209
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:19,039
you built this, this was a story about Jake Bowers.

1210
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: And I said I wasn't gonna put platoon players, and

1211
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,559
he's kind of a platoon player, but he is very

1212
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:26,199
heavy side and he has like over fifty abs versus lefties,

1213
00:57:26,239 --> 00:57:27,719
so he's not absolute platoon.

1214
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,039
Speaker 2: But Andrew Vaughn starts sometimes at first, So yeah, that's

1215
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:33,159
a good point. But still like that that didn't screw

1216
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:35,440
me up or anything like that, So all right, that's

1217
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,800
a good all right, last one.

1218
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: All right, last one. Player a thirty one of one

1219
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:43,079
hundred and five. That's two ninety five batting average, fifteen runs,

1220
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:46,599
three homers, twenty four RBI, into swipes. Player b played

1221
00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:50,039
for your games twenty one of eighty nine, eighteen runs,

1222
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:53,239
two homers, thirteen RBI, only three stone bases and only

1223
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,199
hitting two thirty six. But player be a much bigger name.

1224
00:57:58,679 --> 00:57:59,679
I'll throw that him out.

1225
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah you said it was like a really big name guy.

1226
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:05,639
All right, we're gonna have to do position.

1227
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 4: Hmmm?

1228
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: Or is that going to give it away?

1229
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,199
Speaker 3: I think that might give it away. I'll say, uh,

1230
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:13,800
give whatever you want give a. Player A is in

1231
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,679
the AL, player B is in the n L. Okay, so,

1232
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,519
and I'll say this both infielders.

1233
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I figured that that was. That's why. I mean,

1234
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
let me just do a quick guess, because I I've

1235
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,519
had some is player B Bobachett. No, okay, that wouldn't

1236
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:37,800
be as big of a name. All right, So struggling shortstop.

1237
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,280
Let me see if I can lock that in. I

1238
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:45,280
do have one struggling shortstop or or second okay? Well

1239
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:45,920
answered that?

1240
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, if you're telling me your guess

1241
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,239
is wrong, let me just help you there.

1242
00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:58,639
Speaker 2: So this is gonna be a tough one. You said

1243
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:01,159
player A is a L or they're both in the NL.

1244
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:01,679
I'm sorry, no.

1245
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,079
Speaker 3: AL for a player Ah, okay, that's what it was.

1246
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:16,079
Speaker 2: Player B obviously a second baseman. Mm hm, who's struggling? Sting, struggling.

1247
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,719
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite moments. I want to kiss you.

1248
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:29,199
Speaker 2: I want to kiss you, creep creepy thing of all time.

1249
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:32,400
I don't know, it's such a big name.

1250
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you one more hint, and this

1251
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,599
is the last hint. All right, player A is utility

1252
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,960
play all over the place. And I'll even break down

1253
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,480
the games nineteen at second, eighteen at short thirteen and

1254
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:49,280
left ten at third six and right.

1255
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: Oh well it's player as he killed Duran. Yes, oh

1256
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,920
god damn it. I was about to say, you actually

1257
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,239
started to screw me up when you did all the

1258
00:59:58,239 --> 00:59:59,639
other positions. I was like, I don't know if he's

1259
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:03,280
played all that. So Duran Duran free homers just stolen

1260
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,960
bases two ninety five. He has definitely been service service. Well,

1261
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,000
I did not realize the RBI that is significant RBI

1262
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:13,639
in a thirty day marker versus a shortstop or a

1263
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:17,880
second baseman in the NL that for whatever reason, I

1264
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,719
am just not connecting with. Here's my only guess, Nico

1265
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,360
Horner now not an Eco. Okay, let me see if

1266
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,599
I have one more guess in here, because for whatever reason,

1267
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:32,000
second basement significant second basement that are struggling. I mean,

1268
01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:35,000
I don't think this guy is ranked high Marcus Simeon

1269
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:41,199
is not ranked high, so that wouldn't make sense. The

1270
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:47,639
oh oh, this one does make sense, Mookie Betts. Nope, okay,

1271
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:51,800
then I don't know Bryce. Really. I would have never

1272
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,719
guessed Bryce Tray in the last thirty days, is you

1273
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,760
know what I do remember doing something where he had

1274
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,000
a two week stinker.

1275
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:00,719
Speaker 3: I would not have guessed that, So I would have

1276
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,679
get two thirty one in May. That's why three homers,

1277
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,360
two stolen bases. Where he hit two ninety one in

1278
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,119
April with four homers and seven stolen bases. So he

1279
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:16,199
really fell off in May. No, I mean played three games,

1280
01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:19,519
and he has five hits in ten at bats in June,

1281
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,480
so he might be turning it around here he's already

1282
01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:25,039
hitting five hundred and three games. But yeah, he struggled

1283
01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:26,440
in May, and I don't think a lot of people

1284
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:26,960
realize that.

1285
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:28,159
Speaker 1: No.

1286
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: I mean, like I guess like process of elimination because

1287
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,639
you said it was. I mean, you gave enough hints

1288
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:34,480
that like a smarter person than me would have probably

1289
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,000
been a little but I just was like, no, it's

1290
01:01:36,039 --> 01:01:38,000
not terrang. You know, when I was going through there,

1291
01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:40,320
just I wouldn't have clicked on it. So that's a

1292
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:40,679
great one.

1293
01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: And Ezekiel Tron come on, man, two ninety five guys

1294
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,119
killing it right now.

1295
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also did a video on him as well,

1296
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,360
so I feel kind of like good with that. Like

1297
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,280
a is a pickup though, and that's the maybe like

1298
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,639
a bigger overarching part of this is like getting back

1299
01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:57,679
to when you lose guys like you know, Aaron Judge

1300
01:01:57,719 --> 01:01:59,639
and Ellie Day La Cruz and stuff like that, like

1301
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,440
you can't really replace them, but if you have the

1302
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,400
ability throughout the season to really try to pay attention to,

1303
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,880
you know, some of those hot runs on like lower

1304
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,880
owned players, if you can find a spot for them,

1305
01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:12,159
they can really make up. Like and to your point,

1306
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:16,719
Zeguel Doron for one month was more valuable than Bryce trying.

1307
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:19,360
Will it be with that for the entire season? Probably not.

1308
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: No, Seeger's gonna come back, Josh Smith, you know, was

1309
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:23,480
gonna come back?

1310
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:25,239
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, But Doron's gonna get playing time in

1311
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,159
other places. But my point was like, like getting those

1312
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:30,159
type of players and getting that production where you can

1313
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:32,800
could also help save you if you are hyper aggressive,

1314
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,599
if you know the same thing me and Joe argued

1315
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:38,320
about JJ Bledet, Like I was instantly like, you know what,

1316
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,599
I'm gonna buy this because he did meet that quadrant

1317
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,679
that I was talking about of those of you know,

1318
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:44,920
it's like, wow, I really liked this, Like like Miguel Vargas,

1319
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,840
Like I'm looking at and it's like, man, I don't

1320
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,559
think I was giving Migal Vargus enough of his flowers,

1321
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:51,760
especially because I was just doing like a rank update

1322
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:54,599
to see and I think I just saw Scott White

1323
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:58,519
tweet today that I think he said he put Vargas

1324
01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:02,280
is like his fifth third basement overall, and it's like,

1325
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,320
you know what he does, he deserves that type of run.

1326
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:07,400
Like we need to be paying attention to some of

1327
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,199
those guys. But you know, from Michel Vargas to digit

1328
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:14,639
Blidae to Doran and whatnot, like being aggressive early on

1329
01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:17,920
the payoff is pretty obvious. Yeah.

1330
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:20,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, Doran has been great, really surprising, and I was

1331
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:23,199
I was also surprised that how bad train was in me.

1332
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,920
I don't think I realized it, but I don't have

1333
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,960
any shares of Turin so crazy.

1334
01:03:28,039 --> 01:03:29,599
Speaker 2: That's fun getting great job. You did a really good

1335
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:32,719
job with that, and my best you did a great job.

1336
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: I mean you guess the first four, that second guesses,

1337
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:37,639
that's best.

1338
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 2: Best I've ever done, best all ever probably did.

1339
01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 3: Might this might turn into spygate. People might look into this.

1340
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,559
So yeah, people will care enough. They'll care enough if

1341
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,440
like was he cheating. It'd be funnier if this is

1342
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,679
a video side of it.

1343
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,159
Speaker 2: We're gonna do two pitch pictures. But we had, uh,

1344
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,119
we've actually got two of these because we did a

1345
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,880
little kicking the can down the road. One of our boys,

1346
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,280
Kevin sent in an actual trade question, and then we

1347
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,519
have got the grim Reaper. The gram Reaper had sent

1348
01:04:06,519 --> 01:04:08,360
it in last week and we pushed this down. So

1349
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,840
let's do a couple of voicemails and we'll do two

1350
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,239
start pitchers and we'll get out of here. Let me

1351
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,000
pull up because I realized I got this in the

1352
01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:18,599
wrong area here. I like that people do send emails

1353
01:04:18,599 --> 01:04:21,239
in even though we're like, this segment's dead. Now, we're

1354
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,360
not doing it. Hey, you know what, keep center them in.

1355
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,480
You might come on, why not? All right, let's go

1356
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:30,880
to this is Kevin sending in some type of trade question.

1357
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,679
Speaker 4: All right, good morning boys, It is construction. keV been

1358
01:04:35,679 --> 01:04:38,079
a while since if message, but I have been listening.

1359
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:44,039
I have a keeper, salary cap, question, trade question, salary cap,

1360
01:04:44,639 --> 01:04:45,320
all the things.

1361
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: It's a question.

1362
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,119
Speaker 4: So I have a manager in my league who is

1363
01:04:48,119 --> 01:04:53,400
trying to dump saut Palary on his Aaron Judge. He's

1364
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,119
been trying to do it since the beginning of the season.

1365
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:57,800
He's got him right now for fifty two dollars. With

1366
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,039
the ten percent increase, it'll be about fifty seven dollars

1367
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:04,079
next year. To keep we start to see about two

1368
01:05:04,159 --> 01:05:07,599
hundred and seventy dollars. He wants young guys who wants to,

1369
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,039
you know, start fresh. He's got too much money on

1370
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:12,760
the books. Type of deal young guys is what I

1371
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,000
have now. The question that I have is what do

1372
01:05:16,039 --> 01:05:19,920
I what do I kind of offer here? So some

1373
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,760
of the guys that I think he is going to

1374
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,159
want that I don't know if I want to part

1375
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:26,119
ways with This is.

1376
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: A one wildly longer than minute question, but that's fine. Wildly.

1377
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 4: I have for about five dollars Connor Griffin five dollars.

1378
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:39,960
I have JJ Weatherhole for about sixteen dollars. But then

1379
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:42,519
I do have still like a Jackson Merrill for like

1380
01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:47,000
two dollars. I have a Ryan Sloan for two dollars.

1381
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,840
He's he's an older guy, but he is a Jared

1382
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,599
Durand fan. I have for six dollars a year, he

1383
01:05:54,639 --> 01:05:58,039
press for five. Do some of those other guys get

1384
01:05:58,039 --> 01:05:59,719
it done if I put two or three of them

1385
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,280
to get or am I gonna have to part ways with,

1386
01:06:02,719 --> 01:06:08,840
you know, the Connor Griffin, Kevin McGonagall or possibly JJ Weatherhole.

1387
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: I know he's more expensive to type of deal.

1388
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 4: And the other question that kind of goes along with

1389
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,159
it is really just Aaron Judge right now with the

1390
01:06:18,199 --> 01:06:20,440
injury scare, is now the time to.

1391
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,199
Speaker 2: Try to trade for him?

1392
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 4: You know his price is probably gonna go down a

1393
01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:26,480
little bit because of that, But is you know, is

1394
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:31,079
he actually hurt? So thanks for the time. Boys, I'm

1395
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:32,840
I'm by the way, I'm I'm in it. I'm in

1396
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,559
first place. I've got one loss a year and I'm

1397
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:36,239
trying to go for They.

1398
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: Love it, love it all right? Yeah, a lot of

1399
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,760
stuff in there. So I think I.

1400
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:43,519
Speaker 3: Think it costs at least one of the the cheap

1401
01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:46,119
one of the cheap guys, probably two of them and

1402
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:47,000
a third.

1403
01:06:47,719 --> 01:06:49,679
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's start real quick on the judge

1404
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:54,960
just the Judges himself thing. I'm down to buy on him.

1405
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,840
I don't, like I said when we're talking at the beginning,

1406
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,039
I don't think whatever the issue is is going to

1407
01:06:59,079 --> 01:07:01,719
be something that's going to hold the season right. But

1408
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,559
I definitely have a little bit of a hesitation. So like,

1409
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:06,159
is it the best time to buy? It's probably a

1410
01:07:06,199 --> 01:07:08,199
pretty good time to buy. A better time might be

1411
01:07:08,239 --> 01:07:10,679
when they officially announced an ilstin. But it's gonna give

1412
01:07:10,719 --> 01:07:13,639
you a slight discount that takes to the trade, which

1413
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:16,079
I think is really difficult here because if you're in

1414
01:07:16,159 --> 01:07:18,320
first place, I think that's pretty sweet. And now I

1415
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,280
see why you want to do that. I'm not giving

1416
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,920
up Connor Griffin regardless. Here's the problem. He's probably gonna

1417
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:29,960
want Connor Griffin regardless. I think you could be the initiator.

1418
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,559
But if you're the initiator, I think you need to

1419
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:35,920
send a low ball offer. And because I'm getting at is,

1420
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,440
I'd love to be like, hey, what do you think

1421
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,280
what is the trade that you think and he's gonna

1422
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:44,039
want a lot, I would go in with like I

1423
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:47,559
might offer JJ Weatherhold because he's sixteen bucks, and I

1424
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:50,039
actually think Judge is capable at least for one more year,

1425
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,719
and I think that's what you'd want, so like maybe

1426
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,880
a JJE and I think JJ weatherold's a lot to

1427
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,320
start with JJ Weatherhold and Danduran like start there and

1428
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,159
see what that does for him. And then he'll probably

1429
01:08:01,199 --> 01:08:03,719
want because he's trying to offload money and be like

1430
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,519
I don't want blah blah blah, and I want like

1431
01:08:05,639 --> 01:08:08,159
McGonagall or Griffin. Probably doing whatever I can to not

1432
01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:11,239
give up those two for a pseudo rental, but I'm

1433
01:08:11,239 --> 01:08:13,440
also down to be going for it if I did,

1434
01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:16,760
probably giving up McGonagall over Griffin, and then I'm not

1435
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,159
giving much else because the money is really important in

1436
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:23,359
those type of situations. You cannot discount you know, a

1437
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,479
two dollars Jackson merrily, even if he's been playing bad

1438
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,560
to a fifty seven dollars ear in judge like that

1439
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,119
has to be accounted for in those situations, and salary

1440
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:36,840
cap makes trades so weird, so so weird, but you

1441
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,359
have to you, I'm not giving up the world. I

1442
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:41,199
feel like the look on your face is you're willing

1443
01:08:41,239 --> 01:08:43,039
to give up whatever you have to do to get judged. No,

1444
01:08:43,159 --> 01:08:44,359
not whatever I have to do.

1445
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,239
Speaker 3: But it's I don't know if I draw the same

1446
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:49,319
hard line in the sand on Griffin as you do.

1447
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,920
But my hardline in the sand would be I'm giving

1448
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,640
you one of these guys, not two of them. That

1449
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,680
would probably be my hard line in the sand. And

1450
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,680
I might even say, hey, look, pick the one you want,

1451
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,479
and it's probably gonna be Griffin, and I'll give you

1452
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,279
Duran on top and maybe one other piece. Right, And

1453
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,079
because just no, like you get Aaron Judge, maybe he

1454
01:09:09,159 --> 01:09:11,640
puts you over the top, but you get him for

1455
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,680
two years, right, You're not keeping him for five years

1456
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,039
because he's gonna be way too expensive at that point

1457
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:18,640
in his career. So this is a push to your

1458
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,800
chips in move since you're already in first. So if

1459
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,279
you want to take Griffin off the board like Welsh

1460
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:26,640
did and say hey, look I give you one of

1461
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,159
these two guys and then two of these other pieces,

1462
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:31,640
I think that's probably fair enough to get it done.

1463
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: I do agree with I've always thought if you can

1464
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,760
find a way to give people options that and you

1465
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,399
put them in the driver's seats a great way, Like

1466
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,239
there are people that are going to just take the

1467
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:44,159
driver's seat and never allow you to have it, and

1468
01:09:44,199 --> 01:09:46,279
they usually want something unreasonable, and it's tough to do

1469
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:49,439
trades if you can set a line and be like

1470
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,479
Griffin's not getting traded mcgonagall's not getting traded. But I

1471
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,600
am willing to part with two pieces of bup a

1472
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,880
bup and that is of interest to them, and they

1473
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,760
think they have control and they're like, Okay, well I

1474
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:04,319
want Marl and weather Hoole or Merrill and Duran. Okay,

1475
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,560
I do think Duran's probably helping you a bit right now,

1476
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,960
but I I can get down with that interesting strategy

1477
01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:13,720
of it, Like salaries just complicated, but I like, like

1478
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,359
we're both saying, there's this idea of like throwing out

1479
01:10:17,399 --> 01:10:21,600
and giving somebody control of a trade when you are

1480
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,239
because what.

1481
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 3: You're also question like is the salary cap there for

1482
01:10:25,039 --> 01:10:27,520
drafting only? Like can you trade for guys over the

1483
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:28,359
cap or is it there?

1484
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,079
Speaker 2: Well, oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I don't.

1485
01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 3: I think it's over the trade. I think if I yeah,

1486
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,800
well that's a question, right, So, because that makes it

1487
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,720
harder to trade, or.

1488
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,319
Speaker 2: You'd have to trade Weatherhold in that respect, I'm imagining

1489
01:10:41,359 --> 01:10:41,680
you can.

1490
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,079
Speaker 3: But depends on how much room he has if he has,

1491
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,199
because if he's got all these cheap players and maybe

1492
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:46,520
he does.

1493
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,119
Speaker 2: That that's true.

1494
01:10:47,119 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 3: Who knows, right, I'm assuming it doesn't count because you

1495
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,800
didn't put it in the email.

1496
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the control range when you were trying to

1497
01:10:55,079 --> 01:10:58,960
acquire the best player. That gives that person control and

1498
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,159
they want that. Then when you tell them I'll do

1499
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:05,760
everything but this player, you are assuming a level of

1500
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,479
control that is usually going into annoy a fantasy owner.

1501
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,680
So then by then be going, here's all these guys,

1502
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,640
and you can make the decision you're can of giving.

1503
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,039
That's just like a mental side that can help. They

1504
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:18,920
still might not give a crap because you've taken a

1505
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,680
player off the board and they're like, well, I'm trading

1506
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,199
one of the best players in baseball. I don't care

1507
01:11:22,199 --> 01:11:24,359
if he's hurt right now. You don't get to dictate

1508
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,560
the players that come off when I'm training him. Then

1509
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,760
that makes it really tough. But whatever you can on

1510
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,439
the mental side, that's like a fun strategy out there.

1511
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,760
I like having those I've always loved having those conversations.

1512
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,800
So all right, the Grim Reaper. The Grim Reaper is

1513
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,960
out to do some nastiness, I believe. So let's see cursing.

1514
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,359
I like it. Yeah, let's see, as long as it's

1515
01:11:46,399 --> 01:11:49,680
not me. I'm hoping it's also not me. Yeah, let's

1516
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,920
see what's on. I have no idea what's on the docket.

1517
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,119
This was a little bit later last week, but it

1518
01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:57,840
still works here. The grim Reaper is in the house.

1519
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 5: A low it a lomm me. Today I witnessed a

1520
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,439
particular breed of fantasy baseball owner. I speak of the

1521
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,439
creature who sees every rookie call up from his franchise

1522
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,600
as the second coming of Mike Trout. The owner who

1523
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,880
will spend thirty percent fab on a middle reliever because

1524
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:19,000
he looked good in spring training, the homer. You see,

1525
01:12:19,119 --> 01:12:24,920
I witnessed a horror beyond comprehension. One owner acquired both

1526
01:12:25,039 --> 01:12:30,560
Mets rookie outfielders in two separate deals. He is searching

1527
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,079
for hope. Instead, he may just have sped up a

1528
01:12:34,079 --> 01:12:40,520
tradition unlike any other. The annual Mets collapse sound familiar,

1529
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:43,840
and this owner is off limits to a curse from me.

1530
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,159
You see, being a Mets fan is a curse onto itself.

1531
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,880
So with that, a question for you two. How do

1532
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,600
you balance your real life team's fandom with your fantasy teams?

1533
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: Toodles. Yeah, that's why I thought this was going. This

1534
01:12:59,359 --> 01:13:01,600
is like more of a the homersm side of like

1535
01:13:02,359 --> 01:13:05,560
I gotta this actually feels a little bit more football,

1536
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,560
like one of our dear friends, our boy Rob who

1537
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,439
loves it. It's just nothing, but like it doesn't matter.

1538
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,560
He can just have all the Cowboys. I think one

1539
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,479
year he might have literally had like it was like

1540
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:22,399
Ezekiel Elliott, Dak Prescott, Prescott, the whatever pitcher was Sorry,

1541
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,119
Arizona A Prescott always cruis me up. That sounds a

1542
01:13:26,119 --> 01:13:28,600
little bit like that. I don't know who on God's

1543
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,920
Green Earth would want a bunch of middle relievers from

1544
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,479
the same team, but it's definitely a thing that happens

1545
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,680
in fantasy. Maybe the more relevant side of it is

1546
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:40,000
like someone just continuously acquiring players from the same team.

1547
01:13:40,039 --> 01:13:42,399
I think Guth three will do that with like Cubs players,

1548
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,479
you know, like you'll like, yeah, yeah, well Bear, but

1549
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,800
he's keeping into baseball, like they'll try to acquire like

1550
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,119
all of the Cubs players that are out there. I

1551
01:13:50,119 --> 01:13:52,920
think that's tough. I try to I think I do

1552
01:13:53,039 --> 01:13:55,039
a good job of staying away from that. I don't

1553
01:13:55,039 --> 01:13:56,319
know how many the most.

1554
01:13:56,159 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 3: Aggressed you and I have to more because we're on

1555
01:13:58,760 --> 01:13:59,920
so many because we're on a content.

1556
01:14:00,279 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: The most aggressive I ever was was trying in one

1557
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,760
of the dynast leagues to get Corbyn Carroll, I think

1558
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,439
in two different leagues, and it was just like impossible

1559
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,680
for me. And by the way, somebody I remember the

1560
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,560
I'm forgetting which league it was, but Carol ended up

1561
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,039
getting traded for like less than I would have been,

1562
01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:19,680
like the person asked for like Ronald d'acunya for Carol,

1563
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,079
and this is a couple of years ago, and I

1564
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:23,000
was like no, and then it was like Carol got

1565
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,439
traded for way less than that, and I was just like,

1566
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,279
come on, come on.

1567
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,399
Speaker 3: You should have swung back to me. Yeah, yeah, like.

1568
01:14:30,399 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I want to give up Acunya, who

1569
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,479
was like it was coming off like the fifty homer

1570
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,039
season or whatever, forty homer season, eighty stolen bases and whatever,

1571
01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:41,640
But yeah, I don't. It's easier for us to do

1572
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,560
because we don't get breaks. Like it costs more for

1573
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,439
anyone that we noticeably like than it would any other

1574
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:48,239
fantasy person.

1575
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, but for us it's it's even worse when you

1576
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:52,960
know it's like a player that you like, not even

1577
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,920
on your team, just a player that you've been talking about.

1578
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we really holding over the barrel for that.

1579
01:14:58,039 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 3: But uh, I think it's it's to be expected now

1580
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,439
to the point where you know you're trading all your

1581
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,199
stuff for outfielders that are just coming up, that that

1582
01:15:07,239 --> 01:15:08,479
can be a little ridiculous.

1583
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: But you know, I.

1584
01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 3: Guarantee you that our boy fam was trading for the

1585
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,319
Cowboys more recently when the offense was good. He wasn't

1586
01:15:16,359 --> 01:15:18,840
trading for them in the Troy Hambrick days, right, So,

1587
01:15:19,039 --> 01:15:22,000
like you know, the offense has to match production for

1588
01:15:22,079 --> 01:15:26,359
you to actually want these players as well. So I

1589
01:15:26,399 --> 01:15:29,640
think you can usually squeeze a little bit more out

1590
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,960
of someone that's in that position, but you also have

1591
01:15:33,039 --> 01:15:35,520
to you have to know when to balance. But the

1592
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,079
good news about this is if you don't take into

1593
01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:43,319
that consideration of wind to balance, the fantasy world will

1594
01:15:43,319 --> 01:15:46,520
show you, yeah, and you'll finish dead last, and you'll

1595
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,239
keep finishing in dead last, and uh, you'll learn it's

1596
01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:54,600
a pretty quick lesson to learn. Football is even worse

1597
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:55,479
because of the bye weeks.

1598
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'll also say though, like you know, and

1599
01:15:58,119 --> 01:16:00,560
it's fun to have your favorite players. So if you're

1600
01:16:01,079 --> 01:16:02,600
it's kind of one of those things like when you're

1601
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,600
middling and you don't quite know where to go. Like

1602
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,199
I don't blame people for doing it, but like I'm

1603
01:16:07,319 --> 01:16:10,359
super like I don't have that, Like I just walk

1604
01:16:10,399 --> 01:16:12,920
into players like sometimes like a Corbyn Carroll the player

1605
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,520
can be on my team. But like people tried to

1606
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,319
hold my feet to the fire. I remember a couple

1607
01:16:17,319 --> 01:16:19,279
of years ago in trades with like Jordan Lawler trying

1608
01:16:19,319 --> 01:16:21,319
to like, you know, oh you love Jordan Lawler, don't you?

1609
01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:23,880
And they want to they want ridiculous prices for them

1610
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:25,960
and I just don't bite. That actually is more what

1611
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,840
happens than anything else, is people like they think I

1612
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,520
like yeah, and they're just like, don't you want to

1613
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,039
trade this amazing thing for this diamondback guy?

1614
01:16:34,079 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 3: And it's like no, I don't, yeah, Or if you

1615
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,439
drafted Jordan Lawler, trading him away is probably never happening.

1616
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,960
That that is for me, I think that's worse.

1617
01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, you want to know a one

1618
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,119
that happened was very funny was I had acquired Oneo

1619
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:50,960
Cruz in our three sport and I own him for

1620
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,920
a little bit, and then I was super negative in

1621
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,439
the preseason, and like I was getting hit up people

1622
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,760
trying to get him, the same person trying to get

1623
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,880
him ten times for garbage offers, and I was just like,

1624
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,800
just because I am negative, like in a keeper league,

1625
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,439
I'm negative onto this year. I'm also I just don't

1626
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,479
know how to describe it to people. I didn't think

1627
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,000
he was worth the top one hundred because of the volatility,

1628
01:17:13,319 --> 01:17:15,960
but in the same breath, going but I am the

1629
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,000
person that says, if he can hit like this, he's

1630
01:17:19,079 --> 01:17:21,319
going to be a monster. And guess what, he bounced

1631
01:17:21,319 --> 01:17:23,880
back in the positive direction. So it was one of

1632
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,079
those like there are guys that I'm willing to die

1633
01:17:26,119 --> 01:17:28,039
in a hill on even if I'm negative, But then

1634
01:17:28,119 --> 01:17:30,279
people jump at the opportunity if I say something on

1635
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:32,119
a podcast to try to take advantage of that, and

1636
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:34,920
it's like nah, like yeah, and the same. I would

1637
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,119
also tell somebody if they had Onneil Cruz, you don't

1638
01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:38,920
just trade him away for dirt.

1639
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,199
Speaker 3: I would say, honestly, I feel like sometimes when I'm

1640
01:17:42,279 --> 01:17:44,560
rostering a player, and I'm talking down on them. I'm

1641
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,560
just hunkering in. It's like, I know I'm going to

1642
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,520
watch this guy for the year because I'm gonna get

1643
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,560
a bunch of bad offers for him. But I want

1644
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,039
to I want to ask you one more from our

1645
01:17:52,079 --> 01:17:53,680
group me room, and I want to put I don't

1646
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,600
know whose league mats are paying attention, so I want

1647
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,640
to put the name in here. But I think this

1648
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:03,039
is a good conversation this person the baseball group me room.

1649
01:18:03,039 --> 01:18:04,359
If you're in there, you can go see who it is.

1650
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,319
But he asked, am I being stubborn not accepting Austin

1651
01:18:08,399 --> 01:18:11,760
Riley from Mike Trout in a deep dynasty and rebuilding?

1652
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,880
But I think the trade values have reached the point

1653
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,119
where Trout should get something more. And then he asked

1654
01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:21,439
the group Trout or Riley, you know plus whatever like

1655
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,079
a draft pick or something. He just wrote, Riley plus.

1656
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:26,960
I said, I still want Riley in that situation. Obviously

1657
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,680
we know you know Trout is playing much better than him.

1658
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,920
I think Riley's still hitting two.

1659
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,359
Speaker 2: To eight, much better than him.

1660
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he has sounded like a stone Mike Trout.

1661
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: He's hitting two forty right now, but he is better,

1662
01:18:39,039 --> 01:18:41,840
He is Fantasy better than him right now, right, but yeah,

1663
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:42,920
to your greater point.

1664
01:18:43,039 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 3: So, but yet I think it's Riley pretty easy in

1665
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:50,199
this narrow because he is rebuilding. What is your thoughts

1666
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:54,199
on something like that, when an older player trading an

1667
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:57,920
older player versus a struggling, obviously younger player.

1668
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's Riley. There are five year difference here.

1669
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:07,399
Here's the and specific specifically, the rebuild is the thing

1670
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,199
of why I would pick that. There's a couple bigger

1671
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:13,079
granular points. Though Riley has not been impressive for three

1672
01:19:13,079 --> 01:19:15,119
straight years. I just want to point that out. Nineteen

1673
01:19:15,159 --> 01:19:18,079
homers in twenty twenty four sixteen last year. Yes, he

1674
01:19:18,119 --> 01:19:21,000
missed time four hundred bats across the board, and he

1675
01:19:21,079 --> 01:19:23,399
stinks this year, but he is five years younger. In

1676
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,159
the same token, Mike Trout is having a good year.

1677
01:19:26,199 --> 01:19:28,520
He's going to have a better Fantasy year. And I

1678
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:32,039
do live in three year worlds where I think if

1679
01:19:32,079 --> 01:19:33,680
I think I can get three years of good production

1680
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,600
out of a player, I think their their value can

1681
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,159
hold a lot better than like, you know, the presume

1682
01:19:39,279 --> 01:19:41,960
like usual thirty four year old blah blah blah. So

1683
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,399
I actually think it is a lot closer. But like

1684
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,600
if I just if I don't get into the minutia

1685
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,479
about stuff, it's Riley, but maybe it's a different trade

1686
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,479
I'm looking at, Like Riley's gonna be thirty years old

1687
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:53,000
and next year.

1688
01:19:53,039 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 3: Personally, are you holding out for more than Riley? If

1689
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,920
you have Mike Trout? Are you like squeezing a third

1690
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,000
round pick or a reliever or you know.

1691
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,520
Speaker 2: Something? If I'm a true rebuilder, maybe like if it's

1692
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,800
a real rebuild, like is Riley really the piece, Like

1693
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,119
how far am I off squeeze? That's what I'm asking that. Well, no,

1694
01:20:13,159 --> 01:20:14,800
but I'm but I'm saying it might not even be

1695
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,760
Riley whatsoever, because like if I'm not competitive next year

1696
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:22,800
and I trade for Riley, and then what Riley's thirty

1697
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:23,479
two or thirty three.

1698
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 3: By the way, this is the if this is the

1699
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,159
only offer, maybe it's just not good enough, is what you're.

1700
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 2: Going But if this is the only offer, if I

1701
01:20:29,119 --> 01:20:30,359
was going to walk away, if it was one of

1702
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:32,399
the situations where a trade deadline's coming up and it's

1703
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,840
like I can trade Trout and get Riley or not,

1704
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,119
I would do I would trade for a five year

1705
01:20:37,159 --> 01:20:39,720
younger player. But my greater point is I'm trading Mike

1706
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,800
Trout and he holds value in a league where I

1707
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,920
could get in Austin Riley is the best use of

1708
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,560
my time taking a player when my team might be

1709
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,640
two or three years away, and then by the time

1710
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,079
I'm utilizing Austin Riley, he's thirty two or thirty three

1711
01:20:52,119 --> 01:20:55,600
years old. Like, maybe I want a prospect and a

1712
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,840
pick and a lower end player, or a prospect and

1713
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,000
a pick that might have better run. That's an argument

1714
01:21:01,039 --> 01:21:04,159
I'm just trying to make. But I think, like the

1715
01:21:04,359 --> 01:21:09,319
in a vacuum, Austin Riley is still like a solid bet.

1716
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's still projected for like twenty five homers

1717
01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:13,359
this year, like seventeen more.

1718
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just stinks as though he's been back one

1719
01:21:16,319 --> 01:21:18,640
of the worst seasons he's had in a long time.

1720
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,199
Speaker 3: But this gives you more runway, right, Like Mike hamstring

1721
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,600
or Mike Trout pole. Mike Trout pulls his hamstring tomorrow

1722
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:29,560
and all of his value has gone, right, Like, because

1723
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,319
how long is he gonna miss It's gonna be six weeks,

1724
01:21:31,359 --> 01:21:33,520
it's gonna be two months, is it? You know?

1725
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 2: How long is it going to be.

1726
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,039
Speaker 3: But if you get five years younger and Austin Riley

1727
01:21:38,079 --> 01:21:39,920
goes on a nice run in the second half here,

1728
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:42,319
maybe you can trade him and then upgrade even more.

1729
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,039
And to be fair, I don't, It's still Riley.

1730
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: But I just don't know if you can squeeze more

1731
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,239
out of an owner who's already giving up Austin Riley.

1732
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,279
But like, I think, what's tricky about this is the

1733
01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:55,640
it's the specific player, you know. It's like Austin specifically

1734
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,359
I'm not super super interested in. But Mike Trout's not

1735
01:21:58,399 --> 01:22:01,039
getting any younger. It's not like Mike hitting to eighty,

1736
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,439
but he is having a statistically better season. If I

1737
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,520
could get another pick, I'd be into that. But I

1738
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,279
guess the other worry would be if I turn down

1739
01:22:10,319 --> 01:22:12,800
Austin Riley, then what do those trades look like? Is

1740
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,159
no one's gonna give up a top twenty five prospect.

1741
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,800
So if it's like a thirty fifth prospect and a

1742
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,600
second round pick, well, now I'm looking at that and

1743
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,239
it's like, well, now you've got like potentially unrealized gains

1744
01:22:23,239 --> 01:22:25,199
out of a prospect and then a pick that's not

1745
01:22:25,279 --> 01:22:27,319
super great. I don't really love that either. So if

1746
01:22:27,359 --> 01:22:30,039
the option was like, hey guy, let me like and

1747
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,720
I need to look at like a prospect or Okay,

1748
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,000
hey guys, I can get lazarro Mantes and a second

1749
01:22:36,079 --> 01:22:39,119
round pick, or I can get Austin Riley and it's like, well,

1750
01:22:39,159 --> 01:22:41,560
Mantes is hitting to twelve, he's kind of a fun

1751
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,840
prospect a second round pick. I don't know what, like,

1752
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,000
I just don't know if that truly is that much

1753
01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:49,399
better than what I can get out of Trout now,

1754
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,600
or wait a little bit and find another trade for

1755
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,039
a more desperate team. Unless your team is a pile

1756
01:22:55,079 --> 01:22:58,479
of garbage, your team is the worst, then it's like

1757
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,199
then you probably should be like you should probably be

1758
01:23:01,239 --> 01:23:04,720
looking at like, yes, a prospect, a gamble and a

1759
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,319
pick and try to realize two young players for the

1760
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,640
very very near future. If your team is a huge

1761
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,560
garbage pol I think there are people listening that are like, guys,

1762
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,159
this isn't even a discussion, and that's fine, Like, yes,

1763
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:17,920
it's Austin Riley over Trout. Don't overthink this. That's fine.

1764
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,520
If you think that way, I think it's worth while

1765
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,960
having the conversation because context does matter into some of these,

1766
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,479
but I think just the vacuum answer I'd be without

1767
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,319
getting into all this. If someone would tweet, hey, would

1768
01:23:29,319 --> 01:23:31,279
you trade Mike Trout for Austin Riley and a keeper?

1769
01:23:31,319 --> 01:23:32,600
And I'm out of it, I'd probably be like, yeah

1770
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,079
I would. So yeah, there you go, shout out to

1771
01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:38,920
the itl army. You get the bigger conversation piece, and

1772
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,000
whoever put that in there, I love it. In this

1773
01:23:41,079 --> 01:23:44,199
league dot com sign up? All right, two pitch pittures

1774
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:47,359
next week, A little conversation around him. You have no

1775
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,399
questions around Chris Sanchez and Paul Skeins next week, so

1776
01:23:50,399 --> 01:23:52,880
we don't have to worry about that. Garrett Cole, I

1777
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,439
don't think as well you have. Gavin Williams. I don't

1778
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,439
think this is a discussion. Kyle Harrison has been the

1779
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,239
best picture ever. Let me ask you this. Do you

1780
01:24:00,279 --> 01:24:02,960
think he's got at the A's and then against the

1781
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,520
Phillies at home? Do you think there might be any

1782
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,239
unraveling that happens next week with Kyle Harrison?

1783
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,239
Speaker 3: I mean, is it possible? Yes, but he's been pitching

1784
01:24:11,279 --> 01:24:11,680
so well.

1785
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,159
Speaker 2: Not gonna bet on. Yeah, yeah, you can't not start him.

1786
01:24:14,199 --> 01:24:14,640
Gotta do it.

1787
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 3: I wasn't saying not sort I know, but but yeah,

1788
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,880
I mean, can the shoe drop? Sure, but I I

1789
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,159
don't I'm continuing to keep rolling.

1790
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:26,079
Speaker 2: Look at this. By the way, I didn't realize this.

1791
01:24:26,319 --> 01:24:27,960
I just have to say this because this is this.

1792
01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:30,279
There's nothing to do with the two pitch pitchers. Brian

1793
01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:35,439
Hotch who uh are? I guess it's his rhymes with

1794
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,319
Coke so Hoke Ryan Hoke uh covers the Yankees and

1795
01:24:39,399 --> 01:24:42,279
he posted this. Aaron Judge was referred to. I guess

1796
01:24:42,279 --> 01:24:45,760
we're getting the doctor now, doctor Gregory Pearl in Dallas.

1797
01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:49,600
The Yankees have confirmed this. Would you like to hear

1798
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,600
the descriptor of who Gregory Pearl.

1799
01:24:51,399 --> 01:24:53,079
Speaker 3: Is thorascic outlet syndrome.

1800
01:24:53,079 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 2: He is the leading specialist in thoracic outlet syndrome in Texas,

1801
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:57,479
based in Dallas.

1802
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take all that Aaron Judge stuff we

1803
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:00,880
just said and throw it away.

1804
01:25:01,119 --> 01:25:03,319
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. Just putting that out there for

1805
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:07,479
fear mongering here, yeah, for fear mongering, yep. Forenger. All right,

1806
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,920
George Kirby, Logan, Gilbert, they're out there. Let's start with Davis,

1807
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,960
Martin Davis Martin has been incredible. Worst schedule you could

1808
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,640
possibly imagine. The Braves and the Dodgers. They are both

1809
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,279
at home. Though. He just got shelled. He didn't get shell.

1810
01:25:23,279 --> 01:25:25,199
I think he got shelld. Yeah, he gave up six.

1811
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 3: Oh do you get I think you have four point

1812
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,079
two ten hits, six earned three walks. He gave thirteen

1813
01:25:30,119 --> 01:25:33,239
base runners in four and two thirds ninety Minnesota.

1814
01:25:33,039 --> 01:25:35,520
Speaker 2: Ninety six percent owned in CBS. I ain't starting his ass.

1815
01:25:36,399 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. That's a Raves and Dodgers. That's

1816
01:25:39,039 --> 01:25:41,079
a bad combo. Yeah, I'm probably gonna say.

1817
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,199
Speaker 2: No, the worst combo ever you have all the the

1818
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,720
let's not worry about that one. How about rag Getty.

1819
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,319
He's got the Angels and the Royals. Yeah, he's fine.

1820
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,000
Peyton Totley has got the the Rays and the Rangers.

1821
01:25:54,079 --> 01:25:58,199
Love it, Yep, Logan Webb, Miles Michaelis and Colin Ray

1822
01:25:58,279 --> 01:26:00,800
with the Cubs love it. Watched the Nationals in the

1823
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,960
Cubs love it. Tosh Bradley, we had this whole discussion.

1824
01:26:04,199 --> 01:26:06,199
TODs Bradley has had two bad starts. He just walked

1825
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:08,520
five people in a live chat on Fantasy Pros were like,

1826
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,760
is he done as he cooke, blah blah blah. He's

1827
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,279
got the Tigers and the Cardinals. Yeah, your name pass.

1828
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,560
I think I might risk it to get those two

1829
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,039
starts because I think there's high strikeouts. But I definitely

1830
01:26:22,399 --> 01:26:24,640
get why you would pass though you're not You're you're

1831
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:25,319
playing it safer.

1832
01:26:25,359 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 3: And I I've rostered ToJ Bradley since he's been called up.

1833
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 2: And did you do it? Did you trade for him

1834
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:31,680
in a league a couple of years?

1835
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,159
Speaker 3: I've got nothing for I've got nothing out of Todge

1836
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:37,720
Bradley for his career. The first half of this season's

1837
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,600
been a very good return. Yeah yeah, but I don't know.

1838
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,880
I just keep waiting for the other shoot to drop.

1839
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,119
Speaker 2: And it has so.

1840
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 3: Uh four earned four earned over four innings and four

1841
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,640
and two thirds innings his last two. Before that, he

1842
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,680
only had the one where he gave up six against

1843
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,079
the Rays. Everything else was two or less. But it's

1844
01:26:57,119 --> 01:26:59,479
been four to two in a row. No, I'm not.

1845
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,319
I just I've seen this movie too many times and

1846
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,319
I'm not gonna be the one that dies first. I'm

1847
01:27:05,359 --> 01:27:06,199
getting off this right.

1848
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:11,520
Speaker 2: No, thank you? Okay, where were we? Andrew Abbotts has

1849
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:16,399
got the Padres and the Diamondbacks. I mean probably fine,

1850
01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:18,960
maybe it's okay. I don't love it. Grant Holmes has

1851
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,520
got the White Sox and the Mets. He's been good.

1852
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:22,279
I'll take him.

1853
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's fine. He just gets no strikeouts bothers me. Yeah, yeah,

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I get that.

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Speaker 2: We're almost at the under fifty percent on CBS. Stephen

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Kohlik has got the Rangers and the Astros. It's a

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no for me.

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Speaker 4: Dog.

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Speaker 3: He was good in his last start. Like if I'm

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01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,600
really short on starts, I would, but in most cases no.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Springs has got the Brewers and then the Rockies,

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and it's at home both.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I really like the Rockies start at home,

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but I don't like that Brewers start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I'm a pass yeah, pass on Springs.

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Dustin May, who's been pretty good. He's got the Mets

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and the Twins, I'm a yay on that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what.

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Speaker 3: The Mets did just beat up two pictures this week.

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Speaker 2: Who was it? They just hold on?

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Speaker 3: Let me go down to the I did list the

1873
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s he starts here, and I know two of them

1874
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are against Minnesota. It was Davis Martin that was one

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of them, and then Samlin gave up eight as well,

1876
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So twins have kind of been better recently. Hitting I'll

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01:28:25,159 --> 01:28:26,960
say no, Okay.

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01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 2: How about this one, Zach Gallon, Marlins and the Reds. Yeah,

1879
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,680
so I think I'm a no, I'm gonna cut for

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01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:42,600
Zach Gallen, Grace and Rodriguez Astros and Trevor Rodgers. I

1881
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:46,119
don't trust Walker Buler just had a nice start. He's

1882
01:28:46,119 --> 01:28:46,680
got the Reds in.

1883
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: The He's the only one I was like giving a

1884
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,720
second thought to the rest of these guys can kick rocks.

1885
01:28:51,239 --> 01:28:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would. I would be. I'm willing

1886
01:28:53,319 --> 01:28:56,119
to listen on Walker Bueller as like a lower one.

1887
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,560
Trevor Rodgers I think is really risky. I'm not touching

1888
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,520
Grace and I think the under fifties in his last start,

1889
01:29:05,119 --> 01:29:07,840
I want to say no, but he's got the Padres

1890
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and the Mariners. I just don't like that.

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01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was no, he only went three. It was

1892
01:29:13,319 --> 01:29:15,880
the start before that he went six and gave up one.

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01:29:16,039 --> 01:29:20,119
Speaker 2: So probably no. Ambassador phony you go, there you go.

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That is the episode. Thank you guys so much. Thank

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you to our voicemailers. Thank you to hanging out with us,

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and we appreciate that I am not on leading off

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on Friday. So this is it for me for the week.

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I will be back again, of course for the regularly

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scheduled programs for next week, Fantasy Pro's baseball. I'm actually

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on a football one as well, if you guys are

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around for that, and then Bogwin and I have got

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I've got a Prospect one. By the schedule is essentially

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looking like Prospect one on Wednesdays, we've got the Thursday episode.

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We're usually doing Monday baseball, we might be a Tuesday

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Baseball so just be you know, subscribed and just look

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out for it.

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Speaker 3: Mom's got a doctor's appointment. We else has got stuff.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well I got more stuff Tuesday than I

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do Monday, so we'll see how it goes. So we

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have we'll just play around with all that, but we

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will be back for the regular schedule programs. Make sure

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you're over at in this starting time too. The what

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yeah football, we actually were doing our planning meeting in

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the next like three or four days to kind of

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have that, so we'll probably have a football episode out

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next week as well. So things are starting to ramp up.

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That is why if you guys give a consideration. I

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know it's a weird time to do it in June,

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where it's like baseball is kind of like moving through

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football hasn't started. That's also why it's the most important time.

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The support means a lot so we can do what

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we do. So if you guys give a consideration going

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to in this league dot com, it's pretty reasonable. We

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do the ranks for both football and baseball. The baseball

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I love you, Buba loves you. So there you go.

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That is it This on Twitter? Is it the West,

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Bogmin Sports, You'll have a fantastic one. Pray for no

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thorcic outlet syndrome for Aaron Judge and we'll be breaking

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down what happens later next week or Bogmin, I'm Welsh,

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We're out peace.

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Speaker 5: So