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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everyone. It is Monday morning, super

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Bowl Monday. It's time for full court press.

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 1: You know, how is how is the Super Bowl? Did

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you do anything? What was your Super Bowl Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Like Super Bowl Sunday has been the same for about

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the last four years. We actually host a neighborhood party

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here at my house. Neighbors arrive about I don't know,

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anywhere from ninety minutes to two hours before the game starts,

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and you get to catch up a little bit on

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what's going on with everybody, and then we you know,

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when you have these parties at him, it's always the

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same thing, right, there's way too much food. Everybody brings something.

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You got to send it all home with him. The

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majority of my neighbors, i have to tell you the

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honest truth, might not know half a thing about football.

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There's a couple who do, which is a pleasure to

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sit with. But you catch up on other aspects with

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all of them.

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Speaker 2: So that was good.

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Speaker 3: What better was the fact that we had a five

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percent on the Seahawks and it was really never in doubt.

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I never at one time felt threatened by the Patriots

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in that game, laying four and a half. It is

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kind of crazy, not that spend too much time with football,

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because we're a college hoops show, but it is crazy

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that people who held under tickets were one penalty flag

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away from losing that under bet, which was a surefire

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winner the entire game. Then Kenneth Walker breaks one, which

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looks like it's gonna bring over betters back to the

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garbage can to tape their ticket back together, and it

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got called back. So solid game. My youngest son is

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a Seahawks fan to the core, so I'm happy for him.

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And we move on to college hoops solely now as

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you like to say, the college basketball experts show up.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're all rolling in, rob were all going to

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be rolling in?

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Speaker 2: I can't. Yeah, they you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But hey, we've been here since November, grinding it out,

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and I do think I do think that will will.

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I mean, if it hasn't already, it'll ultimately pay off,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm on.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the best November December, which was unfortunate

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because I feel like historically that's always been a good

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time to beat the marketing college hoop, though I do

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think things have changed in that regard a little bit

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with with all the rosters moving around and stuff. The

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last few years for me personally, uh, February and then

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that first week in March has been the best stretch

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of the year like consistently for me going back like

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five years.

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Speaker 2: If you go back a couple of years ago, I had.

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Speaker 1: An insane run like during the NCAA tournament. Those are

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always nice, but it's hard to count on, you know.

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That's in my opinion, that's the hardest hut. That's almost

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like running hot. It's like running good in the NFL.

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Like you can't convince me that anyone out there is

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just like so sharp that they're beating like NFL sides

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and like full game totals, you know, like like on

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a every single year basis. So like that's kind of

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how I look at the NCAA tournament, Like, yeah, you

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can run hot, attorney, but most years it's going to

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be hard to like truly find like big time edges

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and in the tournament now the other smaller, smaller attorneys,

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that's that's a whole different story. But anyway, we're here,

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we're ready to rock. Rob Veno, big big game out

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in Lawrence, Kansas tonight.

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Speaker 2: I was just there.

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Speaker 1: That was And listen, my sister went to Duke and

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I when when she was a student there, I would

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steal an ID like a student ID from one of

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her friends that.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't going to the game.

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Speaker 1: And I got myself into the Duke student section in

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a couple of Duke games back this would have been

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twenty eleven, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, I think right around

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that time. Nolan Smith I believe was on the team,

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a plumb lee brother to those Duke teams. I was

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at Kansas last weekend for the BYU game. That was

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as as That's the only thing that I think is

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compared yet to go going to Duke and sitting with

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the crazies, right, being part of the student section. What

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was that environment last week at allen Field? How's just tremendous.

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Today Rob Arizona comes in. Is it safe to say

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this is there? And listen, I know they beat BYU

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the other the other night and they believe they went

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on the road to do that.

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Speaker 2: I think that was a road game.

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Speaker 1: But you start to look at this big twelve schedule

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for Arizona, they really haven't been tested much yet. You

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were both before November, before Thanksgiving. Arizona ucon both of

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those games. I'm sorry, Florida and Yuca. Both of those

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games occurred before the Thanksgiving holiday, So I don't know

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this is this seems to be a really tough test.

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We've seen the other unbeaten teams sort of finally fall

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other than Miami of Ohio at this point, but certainly

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other Power conference Power Conference unbeaten teams. So my question you, Robino,

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is this where the unbeaten season ends for the Arizona Wildcats.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this much, Adam. I think beating up

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on the less stands that Arizona has played in the

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schedule has certainly overvalued them in some aspects. If we

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just split it into siding and total results. Right where

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the total is concerned, Arizona their price to the over

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so heavily at this point in time that they've actually

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gone now five to the last six to the under

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full game, five of the last seven to the under

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team total. But yet they're against the spread numbers are

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four to one over the course of the last five.

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So it's hard to break it into pieces like that

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and say, well, you know what, maybe Arizona still has

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value inside, but they certainly don't have value playing over anymore.

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All the value is in the under with this team.

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And now you get a game like this where Kansas

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has taken out the last two teams that rolled in

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here that thought they had a chance, and they're on

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a pretty nice ats streak right now as well. You know,

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the problem I find for Kansas tonight is on the

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glass Arizona. I'm just gonna give you some numbers here

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real quick. What's going on with Arizona in Big Twelve play?

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they've out rebounded their Big Twelve opponent by twelve or more,

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a dozen or more rebounds against ten of the twelve teams.

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That's crazy. And Kansas is not a good rebounding team,

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third to last inside the league, not good on the

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middle of the pack as far as their defensive board

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work is concerned. So if they're gonna get crushed somewhere

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tonight where they haven't been crushed to date, or at

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least during this recent hot streak, it's gonna be on

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the boards. Kansas obviously six and one against the spread,

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last seven, big home win against Iowa State, and then

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of course the win against BYU or the two big

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teams I referred to coming in here and getting beat.

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Is Arizona the same as those two. I'm not sure

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Iowa State doesn't crash the boards the way Arizona does. BYU.

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say here, Adam, that it doesn't catch up with Arizona

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in this particular spot, despite venue, despite hot streak for Kansas,

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the price tag here is only two and a half.

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against the spread their last five Arizona, So oddsmakers may

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not have caught up in that territory. And you may be.

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record as saying you think that teams, especially home teams,

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start to get taxed a little extra at this point

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for home floor and whatnot. And maybe the tax here

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is applied to Allen Fieldhouse and the hot run that

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and a half opener market bets him up to two

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and a half. I don't know based on what we've

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seen out of Arizona. I would say this based on

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their depth, based on their rebounding. Their point guard play

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is really good. I might look Arizona here to stop

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this Kansas wind Street. That's the way I would prefer

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to look as far as total is concerned. Like I say,

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Arizona's been on this huge underrun, but just to stop

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in my tracks a little bit, KU has been on

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such a good offensive run at this point in time,

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and some of their stuff is you know, in Council Junior,

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who we've talked about a ton Darren Peterson, who we

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don't really need to talk about because everybody who fell

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off a tree branch knows who he is. They got

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guys that can put it in the bucket. So I'm

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inclined to say that this one gets over one fifty

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one and a half just because of the way the

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matchups fall in this game, and maybe Arizona minus the points.

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So there you go, because wage you talk might clip it.

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I give you two two thoughts here. I give you

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Arizona laying points, which I think is probably the right

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side and probably an over one fifty one and a

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half from my perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know this is a So

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that was kind of my that that was one of

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my first thoughts as well, was, you know, numbers probably

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too short. Even though I even though I don't mind,

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even though I don't mind Kansas in the spot at home,

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I don't think it's gonna be an easy game for Arizona.

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I do think when you look at this that at

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this stretch coming up for the Wildcats, there's probably a

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loss in here somewhere, right, Like, this schedule gets very,

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very difficult from now till the end of the season,

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and then you you sort of throw in the fact

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that you're gonna probably get everyone's best shot, you know,

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through that through that stretch, there's probably a loss somewhere

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in here for Arizona.

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Speaker 2: But you know, this game is very interesting.

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Speaker 1: To me because you've got a Kansas team that has

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the best player in college basketball and Darren Peterson, whether

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he plays the full game or not, you never really know, right,

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they're trying to you know he's obviously trying to protect

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himself for the draft. In terms of I almost think

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it's the type of thing Rob where it's like he

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must have someone, his agent or his handler whoever. It

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is like in people's ears saying like, Okay, we've shown

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enough in this game. Like that's what it feels like

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a lot of times where it's like he played twenty minutes,

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seventeen points on six of eight shooting, all right, he's

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shown enough right now. I do think Kansas has a

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little bit of a say where it's like, hey, we

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need to go out and win this game. But that's

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kind of how I felt at the BYU game where

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he played the first half was excellent, they got up twenty,

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and now he's not out in the second half. So

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negotiating power to be like, no, we need him for

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the full game. Here it's the number one team in

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the country. But like there's no question about it, Like

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when he's on the floor, I mean, Kansas is so

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like you need him on the floor right, Like you

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need to know if he's going to be on the floor,

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because when he's not even going back to that second

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and half, Kansas BYU I mean BYU is able to

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quickly get back in the game. Kansas's offense didn't have

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that same punch without him. Now on the Arizona side,

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you might have a couple of guys that can guard

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him here more so than some of the other teams

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Kansas has played of late. And then when you're talking

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about Kansas can they you know can or Kansas or

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Arizona's ability to score on Kansas, well, Kansas is a

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really too, really solid two point defense. We've talked about

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this in you know, some of the Kansas breakdowns over

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the last couple of weeks where you kind of have

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to win one on one matchups and score against them.

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paint and forcing you into like a tough paint shot.

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success against them, because I thought the bants to would

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win some of those matchups, and you really didn't. That

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was that was my biggest takeaway from that game, right

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like Kansas BYU, which was which was and then really

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good scores that that couldn't really seem to get going

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against Kansas's defense on the interior. Now you can shoot

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threes against Kansas. We talked about that, you've made the

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point where Kansas will give you a three. Interesting to me,

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Arizona doesn't take any threes. They take threes as little

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as anyone in the country. But Rob, they hit on

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a pretty good clip, so it's almost like they're not

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firing up threes because they don't have to jack up threes,

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right They They've got the ability to score on the inside.

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But you can't say they can't make them because Arizona's

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three point shooting this year they're eighty eight or they're

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eighty eighth in the country thirty five point five percent

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from three point range, so they're hitting them at a

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good enough percentage, they just don't take many of them.

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Very interesting game. My thought was, it's not the worst

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spot in the world to maybe like play for the

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Arizona loss, but with like you, Rob, I couldn't get

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there on that number. I think the tax for Alan Fieldhouse,

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even being as incredible of a venue as it is,

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what was a little bit too high. So for me,

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I really don't have any real actionable info here and

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sometimes that's gonna happen. We're gonna talk through it and

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maybe point you to something else. I would love to

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take Kansas in this game, but for me, I needed

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a little bit more. I need I needed a better

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number rob than two or two and a half. If

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this now, if this comes back throughout the day, because again,

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a lot can happen. Let's say Arizona gets hit and

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suddenly we're in the four range, right, we're in that

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four like three and a half, four four and a

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half range. I think you could talk me into a

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Kansas play at that number. At the current number just

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not gonna be anything for me. So I will I

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guess for the sake of a pick. In case they

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clipped this, I'll defer to you and hopefully we can

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get you know, they get your total, will get there,

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because I think this is a very tough game to

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bet on the side.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what just happened. While you went through your analysis.

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The game got hit both ways. The number went back

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to be what excuse me, to Arizona only one and

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a half. The two and a half's all went away.

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We're looking at one and a half and two and

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the total went from one fifty one and a half

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straight up to one fifty three. So they played Kansas.

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They played over. The over move was universal, you see

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some one to fifty three and a half's out there. Now.

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The side move not quite as universally. You can still

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there could be a lag in some of our you know,

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signal stuff here, Adam, but you could mostly one and

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a half's, a couple of two's a straight two and

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a half or whatnot. So you can. You know, we

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talk about this all the time. We come on from

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ten am to eleven am every morning. When these lines

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get hit in this particular time period, they get hit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm Everyone's like, you know, because when

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I'm not on you know, and I'm not traveling the

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globe trying to go to a game. I'm at home,

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right and so when I'm at home, people are like,

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why are you always looking off to the side during

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the show. Well, the board's going crazy. We do this

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show at like the time where all this stuff starts

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to really go nuts, and so yeah, it's you know,

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it's it's good and bad. It's good because you get

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some real time reaction to it. It's bad for us

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because a lot of times the window to bet on

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a move like that can be slim, where you know

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your number's totally gone. And yeah, so I just I

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think it's a it's good to note though, but I mean,

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I think it benefits the viewers the most because a

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lot of this stuff we can kind of talk through. Okay,

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maybe that's a fake, maybe that's actually real legitimate action

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coming in rob.

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Speaker 2: I think during this window, a lot of times this

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is the win.

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Speaker 1: Though I think it is pretty legit from the moving standpoint,

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I think I think the fakes come a little earlier

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in the morning, and then ten ten thirty eleven is

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when like actual money starts to get thrown around.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Billy.

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Speaker 1: Humphrey says, I swear the odds makers watch this show.

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Hey maybe they do, who knows. That's a compliment if

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they do. But all right, let's move it along. We

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got a good one in the coastal tonight. First time

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I think I didn't accidentally call it the Colonial Athletic Association.

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I'm still sort of, you know, can't can't help myself

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in that regard. It was the CIA for so long.

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I can only imagine, you know, unless they name the

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MAC something totally different, the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference. I'm

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sure I'll slip up there. I believe I heard this

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past weekend that we may have a new name for

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that league by the end of the year, end of

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the year going into the next year. So we'll see

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about that. But a couple of years back, the Colonial

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changed to the Coastal. I think it had to do

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with the fact that, you know, they looked and said, wow,

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this this league, which used to be you know, kind

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of colonial Virginia based, right like with all those older schools,

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is suddenly northeastern all the way down to Charleston. So

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Coastal is actually probably a name that represents the league better.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: These two and these two are are perfect examples of that.

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Wilmington Charleston both sort of coastal teams. A huge game

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tonight in this league. I thought, you know, there was

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a point in time, Rob, I thought Wilmington was like,

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far and away the best team in this league, especially

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when you saw the early struggles of Charleston and then

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them losing players, mister Dean going down, they had a

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hickman went down for a while.

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Speaker 2: He's back.

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Speaker 1: They had a couple other injury concerns and now they're back. So,

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you know, Chris Mack, I don't think he's getting enough

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credit right now. And I know you love, you know,

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following coaches and comments and I and you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Chris Mack was a guy that I.

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Speaker 1: Think was taken a little heat earlier in the year

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when Charleston came out started the season, you know, two

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and three, they had a bad loss to Drake, or

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what people considered a bad loss to Drake, got blown

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out by Florida Atlantic and Liberty, and suddenly the Charleston

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Cougars have won five straight. And as you start to

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look at this league shaking out, you know, Hofstra had

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that stretch where they lost a couple. Towson is just

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not what I think anyone thought they would be this year.

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A lot of people had Towson up at the top

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of this league. You know, Wilmington to me, has been

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a little bit underwhelming. They were handled handled by William

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and Mary the other night in a game that I

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thought set up nicely for them, that you and I

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put in our parlay as a pretty big money line

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minus two twenty money line, and they got blown out.

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So you know, now Wilmington hits the road to Charleston

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or you know, I don't sometimes in this spot because

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I did kind of like Wilmington that William and Mary game.

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I'm inclined to like look toward the Wilmington side, But

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when this one opened, thinking like, okay, only it's only

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like minus one fifteen for Charleston, I actually made them

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a bigger favorite than that, not by much, but slightly

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in the two and a half to three range. So

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very intriguing game. I couldn't really make heads. I couldn't

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really get there either way because I think I can

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make a case for both sides. But the chat wants

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to know what you're feeling. Wilmington Charleston, big matchup in

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the coastal tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the biggest reason why I can't make

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a firm decision on this game, Adam, is because Wilmingtin's

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got two losses in league and they're both to William

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and Mary. Is it just a William and Mary problem

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or is it a real problem. I'm not sure they

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beat everybody else, just can't beat William and Mary twice

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now where And like you say, I mean, I honestly

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thought there was a good revenge angle there with Wilmington,

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and thought that Wilmington had the horses second time around,

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after seeing William and Mary once, maybe we can make

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the right adjustments and win the game. They couldn't do it.

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To William and Mary's credit, it was I don't want

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to call it a wire to wire, but it was

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kind of a game where you always felt like you

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were going uphill with Wilmington. You never felt comfortable in

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that game at any point. They come back off of

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that game tonight, but they shot. You know, the thing is,

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they shot it really well against William and Mary. You

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hit fifty three percent from the field, forty six percent

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from three, which is not customary for Wilmington. It's not

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customary for anybody to shoot forty six percent from three,

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but especially for Wilmington. It's not something that's in their

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complete wheelhouse shooting threes. And they still found a way

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to lose. So I'm starting to think that it's more

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of a matchup problem with William and Mary. Like well,

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if I think a hit to the coastal turn and

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Adam and Wilmington and William and Mary play for a

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third time, and you hear all that, oh it's so

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tough to beat a team three times. I just feel

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like William and Mary probably could beat them three times.

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They've shown it twice now. It's just a great matchup.

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Is Charleston as good of a matchup for Charleston as

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William and Mary's is against this team for them?

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Speaker 2: Not sure?

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Speaker 3: Not sure. I'll say one thing. Since Dugan and Hickman

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came back, team's been on a complete role. It took

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them a couple to get going, but they've been on

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a complete role. You referred to the injuries early on.

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Those are a couple of guys who were out parallel

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to each other, and the November December stuff wasn't going

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so well, and then all of a sudden, very very

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end of December into January, now into February, it's been good.

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So when I watched Charleston, I feel like they are

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upper echelon of this league. This game is for first place,

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so to speak. Wilmington wins, they hop right back in

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with Charleston in the first place. They'll actually take league

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because Charleston will have their third lost. So it's huge

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from a standings perspective. I'm trying to take off the

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top of my head how that bracket works in the

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CIA could be a standard bracket, could be something funky

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with the top two or top four get extra days off.

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Speaker 1: Good, they don't get crazy, they don't get crazy buys.

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But it is it has been a league in the

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past where like I think, like thirteen, the bottom few

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play that first game and it's it. Someone always makes

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a run, like I think Delaware last year, yes, was

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like the twelve.

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Speaker 2: And they made a run.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's it's historically, I don't think

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it's benefited like the very top seeds. The year before,

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I think you had stony Brook make a pretty crazy,

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crazy run all the way to the final.

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Speaker 2: A year Wilmington.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Stonybrook made a run to the

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final the year Wilmington maybe won it. But again or

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I'm going off the top of my head there, it's

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it hasn't benefited the.

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Speaker 2: Top seeds historically as far as I can remember.

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Speaker 3: Right, So no no crazy double buys like maybe your

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mac and I mean the benefit to it is that

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you always get to play the lesser seeded opponent, uh

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if you finish one. So anyway, teams are always looking

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for regular season titles. There's going to be a huge

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focus place there, emphasis placed by both of these teams

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on this game. I come back to the same thing.

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I kind of want to take Charleston just because they're

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they've been on a roll. But I almost think that

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Wilmington matches up better with them than they did William

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and Mary. Charleston is going to go quicker, but they're

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not going to go William and Mary quick. And maybe

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that's just the problem for with you, because it's hard

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for me to see that team shooting fifty three percent

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like they did against William and Mary. If you'd have

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told me that before the game started, I just said,

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we don't need money line at them. We're going to

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cover this number anyway. But they didn't, so we'll see.

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I think it's a really tough matchup to total here

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one and a half. Probably in a good spot. I

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could see it landing in that vicinity. So again, great

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game for those of us who like to watch mid major,

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top level contests inside conference. Be good to watch, But

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for me, I'll have to evaluate and C Wilmington. If

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Charleston wins Adam, then we know n C Wilmington isn't

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really the clear cut top team. It's just a it's

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just a it's an overall problem. That's just a William

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and Mary problem.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'll take a little bit of

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00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,799
a stand and give and give a pick. It's not

478
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,240
going to be a client pick, but I think I

479
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,839
think if this hits two and a half, that's good

480
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,160
enough to take a shot with William with NC Wilmington.

481
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: I just pulled my notes back up.

482
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: I was at minus one point six for Charleston, so

483
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,759
I wasn't quite as high I was going off memory.

484
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:48,839
So one point six I think two and a half

485
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,039
is is just enough where you can consider that that

486
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,880
Wilmington is a good bet even at two if you

487
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,079
really want to stretch it. I think I think Wilmington

488
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,519
plus two at least you're getting the key number of

489
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,559
getting a bucket. But I do think after this sort

490
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,480
of recent Charleston took a little bit of money this morning.

491
00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:08,160
So there are some books that maybe move too far

492
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,240
and are too slow to correct that that are you

493
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:14,720
are probably still hanging a two and a half. It

494
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240
looks like FanDuel draft King, some of the some of

495
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,920
the legals are still hanging two and a half. In

496
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:22,960
this game. The reason I think Wilmington is in a

497
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,160
decent spot to bounce back, just from like a spot standpoint,

498
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,319
because I really do think this is a very even matchup.

499
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,799
But you know that loss to Wilmington came on the

500
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:34,599
heels of three straight road games. Okay, so so the

501
00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:36,480
way that was scheduled to rob Maybe we didn't put

502
00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:39,000
enough stock into this when we talked about this game

503
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:41,920
on Thursday. But you always bring this up like the

504
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,720
first game back from a very long, grueling road trip

505
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:46,759
tends to be tough, and then suddenly you got to

506
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:50,319
you got to play Wilmington. Brian Earl, that crazy style,

507
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,039
that's the team you draw in that spot. Maybe we

508
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,680
didn't put enough stock into that for Wilmington last week.

509
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,920
But remember they played William and Mary Hampton and Towson

510
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:01,720
in three consecutive games on the road.

511
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: That Towsand game was Towson's biggest game of.

512
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,319
Speaker 1: The year, blackout, sellout game right National TV. And Wilmington

513
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,880
went on the road and got an eighty two seventy

514
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,640
three win in that game. So I didn't think much

515
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,079
of it at the time because they had a week

516
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,960
off in between, but you know, they were that was

517
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,519
three straight road games. They came off a huge win

518
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:24,319
over over Towson, and I think they maybe just like

519
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:28,799
weren't fully ready for the William and Mary Brian Earle experience,

520
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,720
which when they're humming is tough, right Like that is,

521
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,960
when they're like playing the way that they can play

522
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,440
and they're doing it an efficient manner, that's a tough matchup.

523
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,680
They lose that game. As you were saying, uphill climb

524
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,720
from them, they were never.

525
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:42,079
Speaker 2: Really in it.

526
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: They have a chance to rear group. I think this

527
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,640
is a big game for them. They have size, which

528
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,079
is going to keep Charleston out of the paint, and

529
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:52,559
that's one thing Charleston hasn't done particularly well this year

530
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:54,319
to shoot the three. It's been a little bit better

531
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,279
since like Hickman and the other guy that's name is

532
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,400
escaping me right now came back, but Charleston. I was

533
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,559
at the Charleston Towson game. Charleston got kind of blown

534
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,720
out in that game, and that was another thing where

535
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,599
Towson was able to sort of keep them on the perimeter,

536
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,200
keep them taking tough shots, and they couldn't really get

537
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:16,119
much offense going. So I think that might be what

538
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,960
happens to Charleston here, whether that puts you on the

539
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:21,240
under or you want to take a shot with Wilmington

540
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,799
at plus two and a half, two or two and

541
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:25,319
a half, I think it's fine. But yeah, I'm gonna

542
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:28,000
go with I'll go with Wilmington plus two and a

543
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,200
half being the way I would go.

544
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: In that game.

545
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,039
Speaker 1: You've been in that building Charleston's. I have not yet.

546
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,160
It is on it is on the list. Not gonna

547
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,839
happen this year, but I will, I will get there.

548
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:41,000
I also I haven't been to Wilmington either. Those are

549
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:43,160
those are two that I got to get down to

550
00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:46,839
because I from what I hear, Trask Coliseum has has

551
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:52,160
a an elite mid major atmosphere, always packed, always sold out.

552
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:54,599
That William and Merry game was sold out, And so

553
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,039
again I think sometimes it's sometimes the overhyped spot can

554
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,799
can work again to team right where it's just like

555
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:03,920
and I almost think that could have could have happened

556
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,400
a little bit to Wilmington last time out, so that

557
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:08,559
this might be the spot to come back with the

558
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:12,759
Seahawks in what should be a very good game. Nonetheless,

559
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,039
all right, Rob Vino, quick promo, We've got our package

560
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561
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562
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563
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564
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566
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,319
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567
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568
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:43,039
gave us a slate with nothing, very few games on

569
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:45,359
Super Bowl Sunday. So I had a very nice three

570
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,799
solid three and two on Saturday. Didn't love anything yesterday,

571
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:52,000
so I decided to pass. I've already started firing plays today.

572
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576
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577
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578
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579
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it works, if that package does well, they'll keep it up.

580
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,200
If it doesn't for some reason, they'll probably take it down,

581
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:18,880
and we don't want to. You know, if they take

582
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,359
it down, it ultimately hurts you, guys. Trying to buy

583
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,599
the picks, because then you're back to you know that

584
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,960
two for one is gone, So so continue to support

585
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that for us. We very much appreciate it. And I'll

586
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,799
continue to drop a client player too on the show

587
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,799
when I can.

588
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: I may be able to do it today.

589
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,799
Speaker 1: I've got one locked in already that I think i'll

590
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:40,920
probably give here.

591
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: But I want to go to Garth first.

592
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,039
Speaker 1: Garth, I think this is a typo, but I'm reading

593
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:49,759
this and I think what he means is southern Illinois

594
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,440
Indiana State, because he then says he leans Indiana State

595
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,119
two and a half, So you'll have to clarify. But

596
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,880
I'm going to read this as thoughts on southern Illinois

597
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,400
Indiana State because Indiana State in Illinois State are not

598
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,200
playing each other, but they both play today. But the

599
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,400
Indiana State two and a half the other line is

600
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,720
way way off. So I'm gonna read that as you

601
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:15,000
lean Indiana State, you lean Indiana State against southern Illinois.

602
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,440
Robin know, we talked about Southern Illinois on Friday night

603
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,799
when I complimented the Missouri Valley for being the only

604
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,000
team that truly like scheduled properly this week and they

605
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,440
took over Friday night, and now they're taking over tonight. Rob,

606
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:34,759
So you know you were right about that game. Southern

607
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:39,279
Illinois just not really being able to handle, to be

608
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:42,279
able to score. I believe that was the Murray State game.

609
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,519
Was the Southern Illinois opponent. Murray State ended up getting there,

610
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:48,559
and I believe an ugly game. I just want to

611
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,799
double check and make sure I'm right about that, because

612
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:54,160
some of these teams games blend together. Oh, it actually

613
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,839
got it got kind of crazy after a while. It

614
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,839
was ninety one to eighty one. So Rob, I'll let

615
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:03,720
you take this game over. That was not the game

616
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:07,000
Southern Illinois wants to play. Southern Illinois does not want

617
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,000
to play a ninety one eighty one game with Murray State.

618
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,160
That's just not the game they want to play. And

619
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,240
it does not surprise me that they lost a game

620
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:19,319
where there was one hundred and seventy points. Can they

621
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,119
slow this down enough to be competitive with Indiana State

622
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,440
or are you gonna lean with Garth?

623
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,519
Speaker 2: Do you think this is another loss for the Slugies.

624
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the point we made Friday was the

625
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,640
fact that we didn't think Southern Illinois could keep up

626
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,519
with Murray State. If Murray State can impose their will,

627
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,880
can Southern Illinois keep up? They're a horrendous three point

628
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,640
shooting team. And I think I said Friday, it's been

629
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,640
stated by a couple of MVC beat riders that have

630
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,480
been reading this year that they don't understand why teams

631
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,400
just don't automatically come out and zone Southern Illinois because

632
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,240
they can't shoot it from the perimeter. And we had

633
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:59,359
noted that Murray State, that's not in their nature. They're

634
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,839
gonna go for the most part, and they're just going

635
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,519
to try and turn it into a track meet and

636
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:06,640
can you keep up with us? And Southern Illinois did,

637
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:11,519
but they didn't shoot the ball from three. I mean

638
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:14,240
five of twenty two from three still got to eighty

639
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,640
one points because Murray State's defense is permissive. The matchup here,

640
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,559
Adam is two of the worst three point shooting teams

641
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:26,720
against two of the better three point shooting defenses. So

642
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,680
I see this total this morning go from one forty

643
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,359
one to one forty seven. Maybe the one forty one

644
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,039
is a communication problem. Again, maybe technology got in the

645
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,119
way here and it didn't really start at one forty one.

646
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,559
But we have this. You know, the odds logic screen

647
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,160
is pretty darn accurate in everything that they put up.

648
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,720
So I have to believe there was a six point

649
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:51,200
move on this game from the opener till now. Don't

650
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,440
quite understand it. As we've said now a couple of times,

651
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,160
Southern Illinois doesn't want to play that way. Indiana State

652
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:01,000
may want to play that way more. I mean, their

653
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:04,720
style is a little more conducive to putting up points.

654
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,960
But again, nobody shoots it well from the perimeter. They

655
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000
both defend the perimeter. Well, are we going to get

656
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,440
one hundred and forty eight off of the interior here?

657
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,440
Are we going to get one forty eight off of

658
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,079
second chance points or fast break points or any other

659
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,559
way that points come in games, the free throw line,

660
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:24,039
et cetera. And when I went through the numbers this morning,

661
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:27,359
it's hard for me to think that that's the case.

662
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Now we're getting a little info here from Spoons to say,

663
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,599
Spoons bets is that who it is? Adham?

664
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: That's yeah, no Spoons dealing with an injury. That's good

665
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,839
stuff right there. I want to make sure that got

666
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,359
pointed out. Yeah, Spoons best with some potential Southern Illinois

667
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:43,279
injury intel.

668
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, go ahead and read that, Rob.

669
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a sudden allnoise when their starter is Mayo

670
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,039
dealing with a tow injury. Didn't look like you could

671
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:54,039
run in their last game, only played two minutes. As

672
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,799
we go through box here, Damien Mayo did only play

673
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,440
two minutes in that game, and they still got to

674
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,880
eighty one points against Murray State. But again, Marie State's

675
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,079
a unique game, it's a unique style. It's a keep

676
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,119
up with us type of game. We'll see if that

677
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,800
has an effect, if the toe injury has an effect here,

678
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:16,920
I just from a general overall totals perspective, did not

679
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,679
understand the six point move to the total. I forget

680
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:22,920
whose question this was originally at him. Maybe it was

681
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,239
Garth who said he leans.

682
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: He likes Indiana State, Yeah, he likes.

683
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 3: I can't you know, I can't dispute him simply because

684
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:38,360
suddenly Illinois, while they're gritty, they just don't shoot it

685
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,920
well enough. So Indiana State's not a team that I

686
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,559
want to have my money on. But if there's deeper

687
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:48,280
injury concerns, then potentially you could be there. I'm just

688
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,239
looking real quick to see if I can find any

689
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,079
updated injury news on mail. We're trying to do this

690
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,480
on the fly as we get that piece of info

691
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:02,480
from spoons Bets, which is welcome to the two of us,

692
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:04,440
believe me, thank you for that. But I don't see

693
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,960
anything definitive, So we'll see. We'll see. Maybe as it

694
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,360
gets closer to game time we can tell. But Garth,

695
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,000
I wouldn't. I would not talk you off the Indiana

696
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:17,719
State side. They're just not a team that's consistent enough

697
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,480
for me. I could see Southern Illinois in a you know,

698
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,719
in like a seventy two sixty eight type game, getting

699
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,039
the win, but I'm not going to bet it, so

700
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,400
I'll leave Indiana State to you. Garth. Appreciate the question,

701
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,079
just don't have a great enough answer other than I'm

702
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,679
kind of head scratching because of the total move. Don't

703
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,519
understand a six and a half point move on this

704
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:44,559
total towards the over.

705
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:48,039
Speaker 1: I think I would. I think I would roll with

706
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:51,639
Garth if if Mayo isn't fact out. I mean, listen,

707
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,400
if you can stop Celeraan House at this point, you're

708
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,239
probably going to beat Southern Illinois like that. He he

709
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,400
really is the whole sort of engine to that offense

710
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,280
when he's playing well. And now last game, last game

711
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,559
is a little bit misleading because that kind of started

712
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,159
to get out of hand, like House had twenty six points.

713
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:18,239
But you just you're, you're that's a gay I guess

714
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,960
a good in game angle. I don't. I don't think

715
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,039
you're ever gonna see Southern Illinois. This Southern Illinois team

716
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,440
is just not winning a game that's played in the eighties,

717
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,199
that not not not against like good competition. Like you know,

718
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,880
obviously that you can go back and see that they

719
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,639
you know, I think they had that win over high

720
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,760
Point that they're still probably getting a lot of it's

721
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,599
it's gotten a lot of mileage for them, right, But

722
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:46,239
that was a game played on some some island somewhere.

723
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,199
Speaker 2: Rob that was like the second game in two days.

724
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I almost like totally throw those

725
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,400
games out by this point in the season. Like if

726
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,719
you're if you beat high Point in an MTE in

727
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,840
November in the eighties, like I got a pretty much

728
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,960
throw that out. The games that they're gonna win are

729
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:05,960
like when they beat like so if you look at

730
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,519
their last couple of games, the Northern Iowa game sixty

731
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,760
five to fifty, the Illinois State game fifty four to fifty.

732
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,519
Southern Illinois has proven that they can beat good teams,

733
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,960
but it has to be a low possession game where

734
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,679
they can pretty much slow the game down. House can

735
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,719
get in the paint and do some things, they're not

736
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,760
going to beat you from the perimeter. So I guess

737
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,480
my question is, is Indiana State, who has really not

738
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:30,880
been a great team this year, down near the bottom

739
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,599
of the valley, equipped to do that, right, Because if

740
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:37,960
they're not, and Southern Illinois can can sort of like

741
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:40,960
execute their game plan here, then they could win a

742
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,880
low scoring game. We've seen them do it on the road.

743
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,599
We've seen him do it against better teams. You know,

744
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:49,480
there's you know, they beat Belmont earlier this year. They

745
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,400
executed that game plan against Belmont, who rob and I

746
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,679
think is is the class of this league. They went

747
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,480
into kurb and won sixty eight sixty seven. So for me, like,

748
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:03,960
I don't know if I trust Indiana State enough. But

749
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,199
the Mayo injury, the Mayo news is good because I

750
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:09,519
don't think that's fully priced in, So, you know, I

751
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:12,159
think that's one where it may come out over the

752
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:14,480
course of the day. Is he worth more than a point?

753
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,320
Probably not, but that might be the move because this

754
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,400
was up from one and one to two and a half,

755
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,400
so that may be what that point and a half

756
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,400
move is. For tough game, Garth, I'm not gonna really disagree.

757
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,639
If you like Indiana State, I think you roll with it.

758
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,400
But it's just a southern Illinois has been a tough

759
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,199
nut to crack for me. Rob They're just it's just two.

760
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,880
They have such nice wins, but then they've turned around

761
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,719
and lost so many games to teams that are like

762
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,920
the less nds that I don't know if I want,

763
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,639
I really want to, like, you know, back then only

764
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:51,119
getting a bucket on the road against like the less

765
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:53,679
then they haven't. These are the games they've been losing.

766
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:56,159
They beat the good teams, they lose this one, so

767
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,960
interesting game. Ocha says, seems like the under to him

768
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,559
by wrap that.

769
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: Up, ad real, Yeah, go ahead, before we get to buy,

770
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,840
I'll just wrap that up. They've played thirteen Missouri Valley

771
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,360
games this year if you take regulation, because they have

772
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,519
played one overtime. If you take regulation, they're eleven and

773
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:19,000
oh to the under. If you use this number one

774
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:21,639
forty seven. The number were given today, they're eleven and

775
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,559
oh under one forty seven. The only two times they

776
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:29,320
went over against Murray State. Both times Murray State got

777
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,639
them into their game twice got it over one forty

778
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,639
seven the other eleven teams. Again, if you discount the

779
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:41,039
one overtime game and just go by regulation final score,

780
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,639
it's eleven and oh to the under one forty seven.

781
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,519
So again, very surprising to me why people would push

782
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:51,320
this game up six points, including the fact that Mayo

783
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,239
could be possibly out for Southern Illinois, taking away a

784
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,840
huge chunk of their offense. So you know, numbers are

785
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,159
what they are. That's a pretty good sample size. Eleven

786
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:03,800
and oh under one forty seven in regulation against every

787
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,400
team in the league other than Murray State.

788
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: All right, Rob, we got nationally televised Patriot League.

789
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: It's a Monday.

790
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: They get their six pm Eastern Monday night slot for

791
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:17,199
the rest of the year, I believe. So you're you're

792
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,440
gonna start your week off with the Patriot League. We

793
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,679
talked about it last week. We had a winner with

794
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,840
Boston University as part of the parlay. The chat is

795
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,559
going back and forth on Bucknell Navy and I have

796
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:33,159
an opinion here. I all that I ultimately talked myself

797
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:36,119
off of. So I'm interested to see what you have

798
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:38,880
to say about this game because I really wanted to

799
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,960
make a case for Bucknell tonight. I just thought that

800
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,519
that seven and a half, which is now looking like

801
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:48,480
it's six and a half most places, what was quite

802
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:50,840
a bit off of my number. I only make it

803
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,440
Navy minus three and a half. But buck Nell has

804
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:59,199
when they've they've against the top three teams in this

805
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,639
league this year. Those are the games they've gotten blown

806
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:06,559
out in, so Colgate twice Navy once have run Bucknell

807
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:10,599
out of the gym. Now I guess the reasoning behind

808
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:13,159
why I wanted to make a case for Bucknell, big

809
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,360
home spot for them. I felt like this would be

810
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,679
the game they show up and play well. If you

811
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,760
remember back to last year, Bucknell was the best team

812
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,000
in this league. They beat Navy twice during the regular season,

813
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,480
and then they got knocked out of the conference tournament

814
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,360
on their home floor by Navy. So certainly a little

815
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,800
bit of a revenge angle here for Navy. Obviously Bucknell

816
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,519
can't be happy about that. But the problem is rob

817
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,199
these teams chant you know, even the Patriot League, now,

818
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:42,519
who used to be the consistent you know, you didn't

819
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:45,760
have to worry about nil or guys leaving. It was

820
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,639
almost like the last true like college basketball, where you're

821
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,199
gonna have guys for three or four years. Well that's

822
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,079
until Alabama comes calling, and then suddenly Noah Williamson, your

823
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,920
player of the year, has hit the portal and he's

824
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:00,800
no longer there.

825
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Why that's so important.

826
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Navy's got a gentleman by the name of Aiden Keho

827
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,320
who is as good of a big as you're gonna

828
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,599
run into in this league. And they've also, we've talked

829
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,639
about this on the show a couple of times, have

830
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,400
had the best team all year in this league. Right

831
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,039
from the rip, I think we said it would come

832
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,719
down to Navy Colgate once you're at the Boston University injuries,

833
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,760
they were never going to be in the mix. So Rob,

834
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,679
like I do think Navy might be due to not

835
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,840
just completely trash someone. They've crushed everyone they've played of late.

836
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:37,119
But I'm having a hard time finding basketball reasons to

837
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,159
be confident in Bucknell here. I like the spot, I

838
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,760
like the number, but boy, has Navy been good and

839
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,639
without that big time rim protector who stops Kio in

840
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:50,719
this matchup? So, Navy Bucknell, what do you have to

841
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,280
say about this one?

842
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,079
Speaker 3: And you know me, I'm gonna look at it from

843
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:58,519
this total perspective. Adam so good analysis on the side.

844
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,880
Let me just tell you that whenever name he plays

845
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,159
this year, I'm automatically going to look toward can I

846
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:07,599
play this game over? I think this is a great

847
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,119
price range to play over. They played once already, they

848
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:13,400
got to one thirty one, Bucknell only scored fifty five.

849
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:17,400
Navy scored seventy six. I've used this a lot in football.

850
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:19,679
I feel like I used it a couple of times

851
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:24,199
here on the show. But I'll say it again, and

852
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,599
this is just general theory. I'm gonna apply Navy to

853
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,599
this theory inside the league. Their offense is so good

854
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:33,119
that they're going to get theirs against anybody, is just

855
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,679
my general thought right off the bat, Navy's not gonna

856
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:39,000
get cheated out of their points. They shoot it too

857
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:42,559
well consistently. You have a hard time to be hard

858
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:45,679
pressed to go back through their game logs and find

859
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,440
statistical nights where they were brutal. They're very, very consistent.

860
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,320
They shoot it from the perimeter, et cetera. So they

861
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,719
got seventy six the first time it was on their

862
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,760
home floor. I don't know that they get held under

863
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,880
seventy four to seventy five this type. The thing with

864
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,480
Bucknell is they only scored fifty five last time in

865
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:05,920
another one of my you know, another one of my

866
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:11,239
target areas. Bucknell is off a horrendous shooting performance against

867
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,000
Colgate their last time out.

868
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matti Langle threw the one three one zone at them.

869
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,119
They couldn't do anything with that.

870
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, thirty two from the field, thirty three percent,

871
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,880
twelve percent from three, three of twenty five. Those numbers,

872
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,760
whether you're having an iron fence thrown up in front

873
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,880
of you, they got to come up a little bit.

874
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,760
You can't be three of twenty five against everybody and

875
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,000
mayvy for what it's worth, Adam Well, obviously the class

876
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,480
of the league can be somewhat permissive at times just

877
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:45,800
because they can outscore you. So I guess the bottom

878
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,320
line to me is threefold. A. They got to one

879
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,159
thirty one the first time, we're only asking for one

880
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,679
thirty five this time. Four extra points. B. Bucknell is

881
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,159
off a horrendous shooting performance that I think, well, the

882
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,360
numbers will come up in this particular game. As bad

883
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,519
as the numbers were. They got to fifty nine against Colgate,

884
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:09,360
and see, Navy's just going to get theirs against anybody.

885
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,639
When I do the mathematics, I say that a lot

886
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:14,239
too when I do the mathematics, But it adds up

887
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,960
to me as a game that should get to one

888
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:20,960
thirty five or better. Again, when we're betting these totals

889
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,480
and sides included, I shouldn't exclude them. But we're not

890
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:28,599
really looking, you know, one thirty four and a half. Oh,

891
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,079
I think this game is going to hit one fifty.

892
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,159
We're just looking to get to one thirty five, gets

893
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:34,199
you paid. That's what we're looking at here. And I

894
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,039
think a lot of indicators here say this game should

895
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,079
get to one thirty five. So that would be my

896
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:43,679
angle on it. Sidewise, I'll leave that to the chat

897
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,480
and and yourself because I wouldn't have a firm opinion there.

898
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:49,000
But I do think this game is priced a little

899
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:50,079
bit too low total wise.

900
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing I'll add to that that I've

901
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:57,599
that has been a thing now with this Navy team

902
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,559
in its in its current form. I know it's basically

903
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:02,920
the same team. I know it was that Deceellis who

904
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,239
was there forever retired, but they basically retain the same team,

905
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,760
they play the same way. It's still Austin Bignini is is,

906
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:14,559
you know, kind of like the engine that makes this

907
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:18,360
team go. And if you you know, if you struggle,

908
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,079
see here's here's I think is gonna gonna lend itself

909
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:23,639
to the over as well, if you struggle to keep

910
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,920
Nady like out of transition away from the Rim, Like

911
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,920
last year, Bucknell had as elite of a Rim defender

912
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,079
as you're probably ever going to find in this league, right,

913
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:36,280
Like Noah Williamson was as good of a player that

914
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,039
maybe has ever come.

915
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,639
Speaker 2: Out of this league.

916
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: When was the last time someone transferred from the Patriot

917
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,000
League to at Alabama?

918
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:42,519
Speaker 2: Right?

919
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: Like, I guess you could say Colgate had had the

920
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,119
kid go to gonzagob but still you just don't see

921
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:51,480
that very often. And so when you can't keep Nadi

922
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,599
from like going downhill against the Rim, specifically Bignini, who

923
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,559
basically he's a little bowling ball. He's a he is

924
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,639
a little five ten, five to eleven bowling ball, that's

925
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:05,039
gonna beat you down the floor, get to the rim,

926
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,440
and then he's gonna get to the foul line where

927
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,599
he literally does not miss. He is an eighty seven

928
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:15,599
point nine percent pre throw shooter, and that dude knows

929
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:17,760
how to close out a game that the last couple

930
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,519
of minutes of the game, the ball will be in

931
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:21,880
his hands. That's that's part of the reason why I'm

932
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,519
like scared to take, Like in a game like this

933
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:29,480
where even if it was a little bit competitive, even

934
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,880
if it was a little bit competitive, you get to

935
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,239
the end of the game, like Begnini's gonna just close

936
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:33,800
the game out.

937
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: The ball is gonna be in his hands.

938
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,519
Speaker 1: He's gonna get fouled eventually because he's good at holding

939
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:40,280
the ball up, and then he's just gonna go hit

940
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,280
every single free throw. I've been at Navy games rob

941
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,880
where he's had like fifteen sixteen free throw attempts and

942
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,119
suddenly he's got twenty five twenty seven points and sixteen

943
00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:52,920
of them are from the foul line. So you want

944
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,480
to talk about like this is the perfect spread for extension, right,

945
00:47:57,519 --> 00:47:59,800
Like if Vegas is right here and this is in

946
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,840
that six seven eight point range, you might get a

947
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,119
boatload of points late to get to get to your

948
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:09,079
your over so uh by you says he's beginning to

949
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,360
agree the Navy Bucknell over one thirty four and a

950
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,360
half is a great bet.

951
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: I agree it's as well.

952
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stay away from the side here

953
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:19,159
because I just don't trust Bucknell enough, and I do

954
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,800
think Navy is really good, but I definitely think there's

955
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,320
points in this one, so I'll go the over here

956
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:29,840
as well. All right, Rob, I'm like torn between a

957
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,840
couple of different ways I could go at this parlay,

958
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,719
So I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go first. If

959
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,000
you know otherwise, you can put me on the spot

960
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,679
and I'll go. I've got like I could do it now.

961
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:41,480
If you want another minute to think about it, I'll

962
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,000
give mine out.

963
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,519
Speaker 2: It's up to you.

964
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just checking here real quick.

965
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: I was all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna give mine now.

966
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:50,719
I know where I'm gonna go.

967
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,079
Speaker 2: Let me.

968
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: I'll give you a minute to think about it. I

969
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,039
played this for clients. It's moved a tiny bit, so

970
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:00,360
I don't mind giving you out on the show. You

971
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,280
can kind of I guess, do what you want with it.

972
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,639
Like so U four pm game, I know people are

973
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,159
going to be excited for a No one gets more

974
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:13,039
excited than me Rob for a standalone Northeast Conference four

975
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:13,639
pm game.

976
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,159
Speaker 2: I can assure you of that.

977
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: But I played Chicago State on the money line earlier

978
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,880
at minus one forty. It looks like it's moved to

979
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,000
uh minus one sixty most places.

980
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: This spread is.

981
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,159
Speaker 1: Only is pretty much two and a half everywhere. So

982
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,559
if you can, like listen, if you're if you have

983
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:33,760
one of those books that doesn't offer the money line

984
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:37,800
for an extra board or is going to really move

985
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,880
it considerably, and you can get a good price on

986
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,960
a minus two I guess I'm okay with that as well.

987
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:48,559
Here's the reason I like Chicago State today. So in

988
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:50,480
addition to that, like the these are two of the

989
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:53,639
worst teams in the league, this should be a horrific

990
00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:56,320
basketball game by all accounts, I mean, this is going

991
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,639
to be bad basketball right here, two of the worst

992
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:00,800
teams in the league, probably two of the worst teams

993
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,679
in the country. But there was a situation at the

994
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,159
end of the Saint Francis Lemoine game that I don't

995
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:11,159
think was like fully sort of you know, I think

996
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:13,360
if there was footage of this, So the ANYC front

997
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,559
Row broadcast I believe cut out right at the way

998
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,679
this game went final and there was a bit of

999
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,639
a scuffle in the handshake line. What you could if

1000
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,880
you want to go see just an unhinged finish to

1001
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,320
the game to a game, go look up the end

1002
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,280
of Lemoyne Saint Francis from Saturday. It basically it was

1003
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,880
like Lemoyne hitting a three, they thought there was no

1004
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,239
time up. It was actually the same scenario that played

1005
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,000
out in unc Duke to an extent, except instead of

1006
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,119
fans coming out of the court, it was Lemoyne players.

1007
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,679
The Saint Francis coach thought there should have been a tech.

1008
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:52,840
There wasn't. Saint Francis got the ball, almost hit a

1009
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,440
three to tie it, it missed. The teams got into

1010
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,880
the handshake line, and then punches were thrown by both teams.

1011
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,320
So you had punch thrown by both teams. And from

1012
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,840
what I was hearing, the players involved for Saint Francis

1013
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,760
were Sky Wicks, who's their best player by far, he's

1014
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,760
probably their only really really good player, and Ammad Harrison,

1015
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,440
now Lemoyne had a I believe Sanders from Lamoines definitely

1016
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,079
threw a punch, but Lamoyne doesn't play today. So what

1017
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,000
I'm thinking is the league is probably still trying to

1018
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:27,760
review the tape, trying to figure out if there is

1019
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,159
if if there is, I'm sure there is a tape, right,

1020
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:33,320
it probably was just the feed cut to the.

1021
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: NEC front row.

1022
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,519
Speaker 1: But the point is this, Like this game's at four PM,

1023
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:40,079
They're probably going to sort this out at some point

1024
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:43,239
this morning. If Saint Francis were to show up with

1025
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,320
no Sky Wicks or even no Harrison, like that is

1026
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,320
a big time concern. Okay, specifically Wicks, who's by far

1027
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,480
their best player. So I just decided I'm gonna front

1028
00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:57,320
run that potentially happening. I'd be shocked if from what

1029
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,719
I heard from people that were, you know, because I

1030
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:02,440
talk to one person that was there. The game was

1031
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,239
in Syracuse, it was at Lemoyne. They said that they

1032
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,599
would be very very very surprised if there's not some

1033
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,880
sort of like suspension handed out, probably a game here

1034
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,400
and there. So here's how I'm looking at this, rob

1035
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:20,679
If Wicks or Harrison is out for Saint Francis, that's

1036
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,920
enough where I think I'm gonna get at least a

1037
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,599
point of value on the number. If it's Wicks, this

1038
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:27,880
thing probably balloons to four and a half or five.

1039
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,840
You still have Saint Francis coming off of a gut

1040
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,679
wrenching loss to Lemoyne where they put everything into that game,

1041
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,800
and now they have to turn around on the road

1042
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:42,159
and make the toughest road trip of the NEC schedule. Remember,

1043
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,920
Chicago State was added into the NYC to fill out

1044
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,599
this conference. All of these teams are in the Northeast.

1045
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:51,480
It's the Northeast Conference, so everyone has to make the

1046
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:54,079
one off trip to Chicago at one point during the year.

1047
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,639
Saint Francis Is that is in that position today. Other

1048
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,320
than that, it's a pretty even game. Neither team's very good.

1049
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Chicago State has shown a little bit of resolve lately.

1050
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,840
They just had a nice win over New Haven. So

1051
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:08,639
I took Chicago State minus one forty based on that.

1052
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,960
I don't expect you to have a rebuttal to that, Rob.

1053
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:13,920
If you don't, you can go on a earplay. But

1054
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,880
that's what we're going to use for the parlay. And

1055
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,079
that's a three percent play for clients.

1056
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:21,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just looking at our clock here, Adam, at

1057
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:23,559
ten fifty four, I'll just dive right into mind so

1058
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,239
that we have a little bit of extra time to

1059
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,679
maybe fit in one more question from the chat or

1060
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:30,840
recap the parlor or whatever, because I was a little

1061
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,559
bit torn here, but I'm pretty much going to go

1062
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:40,719
with the Indiana Oregon full game over the total one

1063
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:42,639
two and a half. Now, the dilemma was do I

1064
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:45,559
just play Indiana team total or do I play full

1065
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,119
game over? But I think we get value here, Adam.

1066
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:52,440
Let's face it, these numbers are based on regular season results,

1067
00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:57,639
on regular season power ratings to date, and Nate Biddle

1068
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:03,000
just came back for Oregon last game against Purdue and basically,

1069
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,039
you know, stepped right in and reassumed taking the amount

1070
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:10,800
of shots that he takes for this team. Only one

1071
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,480
of eight from three. Obviously there was some rust on

1072
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:17,079
Nate Biddle. That game stayed well under the total into

1073
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:21,360
the one thirties. But second game under his belt, now,

1074
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:25,719
second game with the Oregon other quartet that starts along

1075
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,679
with him having him back in the lineup, Lottle cohesiveness

1076
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:34,119
and a far more accommodating defense in Indiana than produced.

1077
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:36,079
Perdue can lock you down at times when they play

1078
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:41,840
solid basketball. Indiana not so much this season. However, what's

1079
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,599
good about Indiana this year is the offense has been

1080
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,039
really good. And I think what factors in for me

1081
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,400
with Indiana here tonight is the fact that, again it's

1082
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,239
in Bloomington, but they've had two really poor three point

1083
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,679
shooting games back to back, and Indiana's a pretty good

1084
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,840
three point shooting team, mid pack in the Big Ten,

1085
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,079
you know, a huge conference membership league. They sit seventh

1086
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:09,079
in three point percentage. And the last thing I'll say

1087
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:12,000
here on behalf of Indiana offensively is you know, I've

1088
00:55:12,039 --> 00:55:16,119
singled out Tucker Dvriz a bunch this year as a

1089
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:21,000
guy who's absolutely struggled. But the struggles, I think you

1090
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:25,320
can even separate the struggles too. When Indiana plays the

1091
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,400
top defensive teams in the Big Ten, Derees is a

1092
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,880
no show. Can't make a shot when other teams are

1093
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,079
focused on him or have a defender that can handle him.

1094
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,000
Teams that don't play such great defense, such as Wisconsin

1095
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:41,679
on Saturday, Derez had sixteen points. Again, Oregon sits in

1096
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,119
that not so great defensive category. Even with biddleback at

1097
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:48,599
six' eleven seven, foot they still haven't been that good

1098
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:53,239
of a defensive. Team this number is sitting at one forty,

1099
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,360
two one forty two and a half if you want

1100
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,559
to take the high side of. It but to, me

1101
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:03,000
that one two is based On oregon's ineptitude on offense

1102
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:05,800
all season. Long it's not based on the fact That

1103
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,800
Nate biddle is now. Back other Than Jackson shelstad their best.

1104
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,000
Score shelstad remains out and it's his second game back

1105
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:16,960
in the. Lineup these are these are little things that

1106
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:19,400
odds makers don't put into the. Number you know WHAT i.

1107
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,280
Mean we talk about statistical. Stuff it's all. Formulated we

1108
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,039
make a, number market, corrects et. CETERA i don't know

1109
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:28,400
that the market has corrected this one, early So i'm gonna,

1110
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,079
Jump i'm gonna correct it and say over one forty

1111
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:34,920
two in The indiana, orgon let me just make sure

1112
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,000
there's enough one forty two's out there to say. That

1113
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:43,559
it looks like there's probably a significantly more one forty

1114
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:45,159
two and a half's out, there so we'll go with

1115
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:48,679
that for the show. Purposes indiana's off an overtime Game,

1116
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,679
saturday Against. Wisconsin game went one fifty, five it had

1117
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,639
overtime included in. IT i Think, indiana LIKE i, say

1118
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,679
bounces back from the three point r tonight against this particular, Team.

1119
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,840
Oregon for what it's, worth it's thirteenth inside The Big

1120
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,320
ten and three point, defense so it's a good spot

1121
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,119
For Indiana Tucker deriz and company to shoot. Threes wilkerson

1122
00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:11,800
has been great for this team. OFFENSIVELY i just think

1123
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,719
we're taking advantage of a number that's based, on you,

1124
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,679
know eleven games Without Nate, biddle twenty games Without jackson

1125
00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:22,960
shell stat however many it's, been and With biddle back

1126
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,760
in his second, GAME i Think oregon's offense is probably

1127
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,719
the key to. THIS i Think oregon's offense will probably

1128
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:29,639
get us enough to get this thing up and, over

1129
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:32,599
BECAUSE i got the utmost Faith indiana will pull close

1130
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:35,239
to eighty in this. Contest so give me, That Adam,

1131
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,239
Oregon Indiana Big Ten basketball up and over one forty

1132
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,480
two and a. Half and just an off the cuff comment,

1133
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:47,199
here it's crazy to See Murray state hosting a ten

1134
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,000
Pm eastern game. Tonight. Yeah They valley y a sports

1135
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:53,639
network wants to get THE mvc ON. Tv i'm all for,

1136
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,199
it BUT i have ten o'clock start in THE mvc

1137
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:56,519
in a.

1138
00:57:56,519 --> 00:58:01,039
Speaker 1: While, YEAH i absolutely love That stan long games get

1139
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:04,519
your conference some. Exposure, NOW i thought your breakdown was fantastic.

1140
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:07,920
THERE i really don't have anything to. Add we will

1141
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,199
go with two team or, one so someone asked in

1142
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,320
the in the, CHAT i Don't we're not going to

1143
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,119
break down this. Game but this is An Arkansas Pine

1144
00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:17,800
bluff zip. UP i thought we might talk about. IT

1145
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:20,320
i will throw out one thing that you should look

1146
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,360
for if you're gonna Bet Jackson State Arkansas Pine. Bluff

1147
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,119
DeShawn ruffin did not play last time out Against Mississippi

1148
00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:28,599
Valley state For Jackson.

1149
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:30,199
Speaker 2: State he is the leading scorer in the.

1150
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: Conference he's by far the best player in the. Conference

1151
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,800
it may have been just some scheduled rest because everyone

1152
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,639
is just running Through Mississippi Valley, state and he had

1153
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:43,079
played three straight games of like forty minutes or. More

1154
00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:45,280
one of them he played forty two, minutes went in.

1155
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,440
Overtime so but the market has bet this rob from

1156
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,920
four and a half up to seven and a half

1157
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,079
as if he's going to be. Out so if he's,

1158
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:55,199
out THEN i, WOULD i wouldn't do anything with. It

1159
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:59,239
but If ruffin is, playing you should probably Take Jackson

1160
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:02,000
state just from a number. Perspective SO i guess that's

1161
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:04,320
just one Thing i'll throw out. THERE i really don't

1162
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,280
have much of an opinion on the. GAME i really

1163
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,000
like This Pine bluff. Team this Was this was the

1164
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,960
FIRST i was running late this, Morning, rob SO i

1165
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,480
just kind of grabbed this and threw it. ON i, said,

1166
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,880
Oh Pine bluf's playing. Today we'll wrap the zip. Up but,

1167
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:20,320
yeah that's just something to have your eye and if

1168
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,480
you want to get involved in that. Game recapping the,

1169
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:26,400
Parlay i'm gonna go With Chicago state on the money.

1170
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,719
Line it looks like minus one fifty is the first

1171
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,079
THING i found shop around for. Clients that's a three

1172
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:37,239
percent play at minus one forty for. Me, honestly you

1173
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:39,400
could play that for three percent up to like minus

1174
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,320
one sixty something. Like i'd be fine with. THAT i

1175
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,480
think it's A i think it's a pretty strong. Play

1176
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,840
and If Saint francis has guys out LIKE i expect them,

1177
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,840
to then it becomes a very strong.

1178
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,679
Speaker 2: Play So Chicago state on the money.

1179
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: Line rob's gonna go With, Indiana oregon over one forty

1180
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:56,519
two and a half plus.

1181
00:59:56,199 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: Two eighteen baby.

1182
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: Steps let's hit a two team or try to get

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the week going on the right foot like we did last,

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week and then maybe we'll fire three teamers later in the.

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Speaker 2: Week that's a parlay of the.

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Speaker 1: Day if you want, more we've got plenty. More it's

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on the double The FIREPOWER cbb, package which is up

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on both mine And rob's.

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Speaker 2: Pages hope everyone has a great.

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Speaker 1: Day we'll see you guys back here ten am tomorrow

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for More folk Court press