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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Seanc Garmer here with me as usual

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<v Speaker 1>mister Mark MORRISONI and well, Mark, it finally happened. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only were the leaks right, but we got the switch

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<v Speaker 1>to announcement. Yeah, yes, with a whole lot of two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and thirty second amount of video of info from Nintendo.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that. It was so little info that

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, what's the point of doing a

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<v Speaker 1>special episode just to be on here for like ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes talking about it and then that's it. I'm as

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<v Speaker 1>well as Wait, and they did show one game what

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<v Speaker 1>we presumed to be Mark Carton on, so we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that too. We'll talk about when they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>next show anything about the Switch Team, which is April second. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Sony is not without news in this week as they

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<v Speaker 1>cancel two more of their live service games, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, some news about how Xbox could have

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<v Speaker 1>possibly have been killed off in twenty twenty one before

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<v Speaker 1>they even bought with as the and a few other things,

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<v Speaker 1>along with some games I've been playing and Mark as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll get into all that and more right after that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, let's go ahead and get on with

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<v Speaker 1>the housekeeping to get that out of the way here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your first time listening or understand, we do

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<v Speaker 1>out a few hours later, but I try to have

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<v Speaker 1>it come out except for last week. I'm sorry that

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<v Speaker 1>came out like on Thursday morning. Is ran into some

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<v Speaker 1>issues there, but it's there. So aside from that, if

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<v Speaker 1>you described to the channel, you not only get what

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<v Speaker 1>we do here with videgos some ass, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>like other things besides video games, we got you covered there.

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<v Speaker 1>You have anime with the Otago Cafe folks, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just had their first episode drop about the winter twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five season. So if you're watching any of the

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<v Speaker 1>shows from Winning twenty twenty five, you can join them

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about it or enjoying the ones you do

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<v Speaker 1>like or whatnot. And then also you got the movie

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with the rilers, you're broadcasting people, so anything has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with like TV shows, movies, music, mostly on

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<v Speaker 1>the metal side, and a few of the things. They

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<v Speaker 1>cover that over there. So anytime there's a big movie drop,

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<v Speaker 1>I think pretty much got the review for it the

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<v Speaker 1>next week, So definitely want to go check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in the big into the entertainment stuff, well

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much it for the whole housekeeping stuff. Might

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<v Speaker 1>as well to start out with the kind of BIGI ish,

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<v Speaker 1>well not big at this point, but still was big

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<v Speaker 1>news when it dropped last week. The switch To is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much everything the leaks said it was. We got

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<v Speaker 1>the exact render that if you happen to pay it

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<v Speaker 1>to the Internet at all, had the exact look with

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<v Speaker 1>the black with the neon colors. So I have the

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<v Speaker 1>neon switch at launched the one with the blue red,

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<v Speaker 1>so do you, and they decided, I guess that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the one skew. It's just basically they inverted the

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<v Speaker 1>colors just time. So it's it's more like the switch

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<v Speaker 1>to got some edge to it. We got the black

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<v Speaker 1>with the neon and the blue and the red or

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<v Speaker 1>pink whatever the heck color that is on the invert

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<v Speaker 1>on the side with the actual like controller parts where

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<v Speaker 1>you take off the joy cons. It's basically essentially you

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<v Speaker 1>were right about that. And then you know, we the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that the leaks did hint at that we

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<v Speaker 1>did get a shot of in this little two minute

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<v Speaker 1>trailer is the joy cons will be able to use

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<v Speaker 1>as mice, and you see them kind of pop into

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<v Speaker 1>the like wrist strap thing that got used. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hardly ever use it because I hardly use the joy

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<v Speaker 1>cons separately, but apparently those you could pop that pop

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<v Speaker 1>the jury cons into those, and you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>use them as mice. This time around, the IR sensor

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<v Speaker 1>has been removed. Uh so that's one thing that will

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<v Speaker 1>not be around for this version of the switch. And

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<v Speaker 1>the screen is much bigger and you can tell that

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<v Speaker 1>when they show off the trailer also, you know they

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<v Speaker 1>showed Mark RT nine and they also kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>show off that the joy cons are bigger as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The buttons are bigger, but there was everything is bigger

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<v Speaker 1>on the switch, which was a complaint from I think

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<v Speaker 1>you h and many other people like the joy Con

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<v Speaker 1>controllers are way too small, regardless of what size your

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<v Speaker 1>hands are.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't mind the size necessarily. I just

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<v Speaker 2>find the orientation of this to analog stick. Some buttons, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there they were a pain to hold, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, they weren't nice to hold. They weren't

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<v Speaker 1>nice to like unless you had a small child using them.

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<v Speaker 1>There really wasn't. It wasn't nice to hold on. We

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<v Speaker 1>did not see anything accessory wise a side from that,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't know what like the pro controller is

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<v Speaker 1>going to look like anything like that, because they pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much this felt like we have to get ahead of this,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to control this back to what things used

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<v Speaker 1>to be, where we can tell you when things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to come out and whatnot. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>put this out so that people stop talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>stopped giving out leaks, won't want any more information out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what's going to happen. And then on April second,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get more. And that's pretty much it,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from showing off Mario Kart nine, which if you

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<v Speaker 1>look closely, there's twenty four spaces available on the track. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>which is leading me to think that that's what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the new online space for that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to talk about the new The kickstand is now

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<v Speaker 1>like the old kickstand where you can actually bend it down,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really annoying. Mine snapped off to the point

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<v Speaker 1>that I no longer have mine on my original switch

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<v Speaker 1>because it was so flimsy that you could literally have

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<v Speaker 1>that thing like just kind of like dangling even if

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't using it. So yeah, and then you also

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<v Speaker 1>got to see the magnetic the way it magnetically connects

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the switch, which it was a point

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<v Speaker 1>of connection of people. I don't know, if what did

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<v Speaker 1>you think of that. There's a lot of people concerned about, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my kid's going to break that, or the joy cons

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<v Speaker 1>will break that. This little connector here that goes inside

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<v Speaker 1>the switch.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it depends on how small or big that

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, or if it can like once it's once

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<v Speaker 2>it have a like if it can somehow be recessed

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<v Speaker 2>inside the switch itself to protect it. Ah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it all depends on like the actual strength of the connector,

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<v Speaker 2>and you no one knows that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it kind of depends like is it malleable, Like

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<v Speaker 1>can you move it around a little bit so that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just a thing that's stuck there and your

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<v Speaker 1>kid can't like put it on the side and just

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<v Speaker 1>smash it against something. The only thing I can think

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<v Speaker 1>of is somebody also trying to really hard put put

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<v Speaker 1>the joy con in, But I doubt that that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen much. You know, It's just I think obviously it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you would have with the Switch one. Just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're gonna give it to your kids,

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<v Speaker 1>just let it be known that something could happen. They

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<v Speaker 1>could break the joy con. Still, it's still the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of type of device, so you know, get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for that. I think for the most part, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be the big thing that people are

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<v Speaker 1>worried about it being. I think it'll be fine. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the same kind of thing applies that you probably might

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<v Speaker 1>have had with Switch one, Like any dangers you have

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<v Speaker 1>with that system of your kids breaking in or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be with the same thing with this system.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it does seem to show that in that little

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<v Speaker 1>picture where they were really messing around with the joystick,

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<v Speaker 1>that they seem to have figured out the joy Con drifts,

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<v Speaker 1>so you will have the joycond drift issue this time

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<v Speaker 1>around with the switch to So that's good. Murray Cart

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<v Speaker 1>nine is Murray Cart nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything you know that isn't a part of a Mark cart.

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<v Speaker 1>We again, So what did you think about this as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, Like, did anything surprise you at all? Anything

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<v Speaker 1>that you're kind of like, okay, that that is what

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<v Speaker 2>I got. I guess I got two thoughts. My first

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<v Speaker 2>is I think the thing looks kind of ugly, like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not the console itself, like the joy cons are

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<v Speaker 2>just like very flat in the whole way. Oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's red and blue on the inside or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not who cares, you know, Like yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they'll have a gazillion versions of joy Cons

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<v Speaker 1>that you can buy separately.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what it takes me off, as like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have to wait two years to find it,

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<v Speaker 2>to find a good looking one or you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the second thing is like, I know you said

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<v Speaker 2>it last week, this thing is coming out in April

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, summer at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be surprised if still compound the summer I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think so that April is gonna be like the

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<v Speaker 2>big tech uh you know Tech showcase or you know Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>And the games also well I don't names.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think like summer around July or August, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go like, oh, here's here's the full launch lineup

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<v Speaker 2>of Switch games or Switch two games, you know, everything

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<v Speaker 2>coming out day one.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, part of the reason why they

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<v Speaker 1>could announce, aside from obviously want to get ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>it and control the conversation again.

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<v Speaker 2>Is oh, yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to allow third parties to go with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can now announce that you're making games ye Switch,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, that's that's a big deal in itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Like before they had to kind of like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another system we're making a game for. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, but you kind of know probably what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Now they can outright go oh yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is coming to Switch right, So probably by the time

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<v Speaker 1>we get to April, we'll be able to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sort of figure out what some of the third party

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is. Like you said, while we wait for the

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<v Speaker 1>first party, do you think for sure mariok cart nine

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<v Speaker 1>is a launch game?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, becaus the one they showed. I mean and considering

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<v Speaker 2>how long theoretically it's been in development or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the this is like the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they didn't have to develop a Mario Kart eight.

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<v Speaker 1>They poured it that over from the WUS, so they've

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<v Speaker 1>had that entire generation to make a Mario cart nine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, it's totally conceivable if this is a

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<v Speaker 1>launch game that they've been developing for a long time now. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Randy kept telling me that, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>no way, this is a this is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, man, this is the one game they

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<v Speaker 1>showed during this thing. If they're taking that time to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever to not show you another game running on this

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<v Speaker 1>system from Nintendo, this is a launch game, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be the launch game.

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<v Speaker 2>Wave Race Switch to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they did, you know, give you a little verbiage

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<v Speaker 1>about this is gonna play Switch one games, which we

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<v Speaker 1>already kind of knew. But there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are kind of skeptical that, oh they're saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a little skeptical just because the actual

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<v Speaker 2>verbiage was like it'll play most or you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's really just anything they used that IR sensor

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<v Speaker 2>So like Labbo so my switch, my switch, flash Cardinals work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, that's you that wants to use that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mostly people are using the actual legit games. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the lavo is probably not gonna work. The

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<v Speaker 1>at home circuit things probably not gonna work. The what's

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<v Speaker 1>we're calling, uh, the ring fit probably not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>That means they probably have to come out with a

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<v Speaker 1>new ring fit with a new game. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>come on, they're gonna come out with a ring Fit two.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we know that at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually I would actually wouldn't agree with that necessarily, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Ringfield once sold, so well, I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>would not come out with that. Yeah, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not worried so much about the ones that are not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work. It's going to be a very small amount. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's probably not gonna be any of the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that were like dying to make sure we go play, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure that that's fine. It's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is that the leaks kind of killed the excitement,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what a Hedecki comite kind of came out,

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<v Speaker 1>was just blasted the leakers. It was like they deserve

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<v Speaker 1>to just living s uh for for that, which, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think Nintendo would have even shown us anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I think their entire date was we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>show this thing off in April second, after cenne Blade

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<v Speaker 1>Chronicles X has come out, after Donkey Kong has come out,

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<v Speaker 1>Like after all the games that we told you were

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<v Speaker 1>when he coming out are out, and you're waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the next batch of games. Uh, even though now there's

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<v Speaker 1>a rumor that apparently we're still going to get the

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<v Speaker 1>last switch one direct next month, uh, to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give us those games that are going to be still

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Switch one library before we ever get

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<v Speaker 1>the the switch to like full on announcement that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get on April second. I really feel like, damn, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a long time to wait. I thought that February would

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<v Speaker 1>have been when they give out everything. Maybe maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also like the thing is so it's like an

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<v Speaker 2>all CGI trailer, Like yeah, that too. It would have

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<v Speaker 2>been nice if like an actual one is shown Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I really think they didn't actually want to show this

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and they just put it out there because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want anybody else saying things that are not

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<v Speaker 1>true and just be like, hey, look, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>official thing. This is all we're saying. Anybody that says

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<v Speaker 1>anything else after this, it's you know, it's bs uh

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. You know, uh what. I still think that

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<v Speaker 1>even though they announced those tour dates that are apparently

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<v Speaker 1>going from like March to June, I think they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>hitting Japan in like June first or something they have

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<v Speaker 1>released they released to Switch One before those completed the

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<v Speaker 1>first go around. Also, I still I'm still holding onto

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<v Speaker 1>that June late June release date because they could show

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<v Speaker 1>off pretty much everything in April, even through the pre orders,

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<v Speaker 1>like that day after the director is over, and then

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, okay, June twenty third or whatever, or the

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<v Speaker 1>late June Navy July where this is coming out, and

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<v Speaker 1>it still gives them time to have that entire first

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<v Speaker 1>wave come fell out and then you recoup for the

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<v Speaker 1>holiday season, which I think is what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to run into the problem of this

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<v Speaker 1>thing sold out for months and months and holiday season

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<v Speaker 1>comes and they can't parents can't buy for their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have it come out in October November, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna happen, you know. So, and they said

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<v Speaker 1>supposed that they have a whole big supply chain with

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million switches that are ready to go, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being made and ready to go be out there in

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<v Speaker 1>the wild. Obviously, don't know how much of that wave

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to release in that first window, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to stagger it all or whatever. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It just feels like that's the idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that release. I just don't feel like releasing

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<v Speaker 1>in October November helps them at all with that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, that's just me. I could be totally wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes you think it's not it's not coming in

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<v Speaker 1>like summer at all, aside from just the.

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<v Speaker 2>They want the Christmas or they want the big seasonal buzz.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can still have that though, No, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's not as big.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't launch exactly in that window, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as big.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I do think PlayStation launched at that window.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think Xbox launched that window you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know though, Yeah, you know, go to the go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Dallas tour that's happening, like you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>three months and when they're not looking to steal it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah, I got the first switch too,

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<v Speaker 2>taking taking bids right now on eBay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they will have that under lock and key

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy of.

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<v Speaker 2>Any form like the Ocean's eleven style team to steal

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<v Speaker 2>the switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I thought about it, and I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be just a better looking switch. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to spend that money to go see that. I'm good,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we know what it's gonna be. So but

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's the switch too. I'm sure there will

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<v Speaker 1>be more leaked info as weeks go on about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some games at my release and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that for sure Mario three D Mario

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<v Speaker 1>is is coming on April second, it's gonna get shown off.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I'll say no, but I think it should, like

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it is. Let's say that. But because obnestly

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<v Speaker 2>it was a long ass time ago, and now they

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<v Speaker 2>did that three D World one or you know that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of port the Bowser's Fury thing, but like that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a full Mario game, and that was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of old, so they should be working on one, but

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<v Speaker 2>who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think for sure that's gonna be the one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing, right, Uh, they'll start off with Mario cart nine,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll show off some more things, and then that one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing will be I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they'll show off the two things I also

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<v Speaker 2>expect to show off is like the Zelda up a

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<v Speaker 2>thing and then oh yeah, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised that Metroid Prime four is the

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<v Speaker 1>gets shown off in the February direct if that happens. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really need to. I mean, they might spend

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of time with it just to show

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<v Speaker 1>us what, how better how much better it looks on

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<v Speaker 1>switch to Yeah, yeah, but I don't know that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to spend and I'm sure Pokemon Za that will

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<v Speaker 1>be the Pokemon Presents thing, so they won't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that they will get you know, get a hold

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<v Speaker 1>out of attention there. I'm just excited to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see what are some of the things that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about that get shown off, Like what are

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<v Speaker 1>the surprise games.

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<v Speaker 2>I think honestly, Uh, the one I want to take

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<v Speaker 2>to the surprise that I think it will be coming

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<v Speaker 2>is like Mario Maker to three.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you think so? Yeah, I can see that, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with the mouse controls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I thought, like one, dude, who's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Mario Maker two's like streamer and like that community is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's still not as good as Mario Maker one,

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<v Speaker 2>And like the like the reductions they made from one

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<v Speaker 2>to two is like really weird. So if they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of went like all that with three, it'd be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there's there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of talk about whatever Sacririze game is. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>joked about it, but actually more as time goes on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, could he really be working on a kid

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<v Speaker 1>risk game? Because you know, I just can't see him

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<v Speaker 1>doing another smash, Like he's getting up there, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>could he do another smash? Is that the next thing

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<v Speaker 1>from him? Or is he going I feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing something smaller that's not smash, But maybe I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that wouldn't be out of the room. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>unless he's already done with that and they're just writing

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<v Speaker 1>to release it and then he is working on another

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<v Speaker 1>Smash or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But yo, man, I think it's a problem. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a problem of like also like Mario Kart nine, like

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<v Speaker 2>it always has to be bigger and better, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think that some of the you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>they show the DK looks different more like the of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie one movie Mario the movie DK. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder it makes me think that, Like I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of going back to basics. Also, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, Okay, this is just Mario Kart with

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<v Speaker 1>more racers, some other cool thing, and we've a had

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<v Speaker 1>it over the years, but it's not gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>gimmick like eight did. And then they can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>add that on because this is gonna be the Mario

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<v Speaker 1>Kart for the entire generation, so you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to just be fancy and add and have it

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<v Speaker 1>be like all that. They can add tracks and add

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<v Speaker 1>things as it goes on. You know, I could see

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<v Speaker 1>Smash doing the same thing because man, as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love for it to be Ultimate plus more, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that they're not gonna do that. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know what they're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in all those people again, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Have like like the old eight smack or the old

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<v Speaker 2>twelve smash for others characters. My dance is to four

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<v Speaker 2>to one, yeah, and then have like forty fire amm characters.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll be it?

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<v Speaker 1>What uh yeah? Talk about like man, y'all really want

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<v Speaker 1>you know Sacrin stud he loves his Fireale characters. Why not? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, look, there's a lot of time from

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<v Speaker 1>here to now for them to reveal things and announce

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<v Speaker 1>games and stuff like that. So we'll get more as

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<v Speaker 1>the week's kind of go on. But let's move on

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<v Speaker 1>here to Sony. This was not expected, even though there's

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<v Speaker 1>also been hints by Nathan Hate as well that Sony

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<v Speaker 1>is also going to have their own like state of

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<v Speaker 1>Play or whatever in February. But their news is that

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<v Speaker 1>they have now canceled two more live service games, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of them was a big one. Blue Point was

422
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<v Speaker 1>apparently working on a God of War live service game,

423
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:49.039
<v Speaker 1>and then Sony Ben was. We've known they were working

424
00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>on a live service game for a while, we just

425
00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.920
<v Speaker 1>never knew what it actually was, and that one has

426
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:58.759
<v Speaker 1>been canceled now, so Essentially, Blue Point and Sony Ben

427
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>might as well get ready for play six because by

428
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the time they come out with a game, you won't

429
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.599
<v Speaker 1>be talking about Place five anymore. Right, But what did

430
00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you think about when you heard this, like just then

431
00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>deciding to like, out of the blue cancel it.

432
00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:15.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty neutral on the Sony Ben studios. One, they're

433
00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:19.759
<v Speaker 2>the they're the days gone guys, I think so exactly. Uh,

434
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:24.240
<v Speaker 2>it is a profound mistake for them, for Blue Point,

435
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.960
<v Speaker 2>for you in that gott a war thing for two reasons.

436
00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:29.519
<v Speaker 2>One is they're the ones who should be working on

437
00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the blood Born remake. Like if not that, then something

438
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:39.039
<v Speaker 2>extremely in that vein, you know, just having to make

439
00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:42.319
<v Speaker 2>a new one or you know whatever. It doesn't have

440
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:44.839
<v Speaker 2>to be blood Born, just a new a new game

441
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.400
<v Speaker 2>exactly like that. They can do it. They do with

442
00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Legend of Dragoon the way back in the day.

443
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeahs interesting Also that like, sorry.

444
00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't do a Legend of Dragoon remake, you know,

445
00:24:58.680 --> 00:24:59.400
<v Speaker 2>to screw it.

446
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they would would that even would that

447
00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>sell enough for them to really justify doing that. I mean,

448
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:10.079
<v Speaker 1>they'd be awesome if they did, trustly, but you know,

449
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, No.

450
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say what it kind of funny do.

451
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of funny. Had a big interview with Shuey Yoshida.

452
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>He's basically his first interview after leaving Sony, and in

453
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.319
<v Speaker 1>it he talked about like why he thinks they haven't

454
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 1>done anything with Bloodborne, and he says they're pretty much

455
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that's Miyasak's baby, and that if anybody's gonna do anything

456
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 1>with it, it's basically like he hasn't had time that

457
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>if there's a remaster, if there's a remake, if there's

458
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>a sequel, he wants to do. And that's his idea

459
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>about why.

460
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:47.200
<v Speaker 2>They're fucking around, you know with whatever you know, this

461
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.839
<v Speaker 2>thing or much other crap. So's I can't either you

462
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:54.319
<v Speaker 2>do it or we're going to do it.

463
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean, to be fair, he can't work

464
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:00.799
<v Speaker 1>on Elden Ring and that it's time, it's big. But

465
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.319
<v Speaker 1>now that they're not working another ring, maybe they are now.

466
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.519
<v Speaker 2>The second point I would make is they already tried

467
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:10.839
<v Speaker 2>to I mean, it wasn't my service, but they already

468
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>tried to make a multiplayer castle or multiplayer got a war.

469
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>It sucked off. So it's like what you're trying to

470
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.359
<v Speaker 2>sail the idea again, like how is this gonna be different?

471
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Or you know, like what I I even compared to

472
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>like I could see like how a horizons there dawn,

473
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 2>like a live service would work. I don't think it's

474
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:33.599
<v Speaker 2>a good idea. I could, but I could see you

475
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 2>at work or even like uh left uh not left

476
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 2>for dead, last of Us, but like got a War,

477
00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>especially like this version of God a War, Like what

478
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>is it? You know?

479
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And then also the worst part is that they

480
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell them ahead of time at all. They didn't

481
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>find out anything until when everybody else found out, Yeah,

482
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of shitty, like.

483
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:04.519
<v Speaker 2>And it's like what is this guy working? Would it

484
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 2>just be like twenty four creators just throwing their axes

485
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>at each other.

486
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, That's what's weird is that, like a lot of

487
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, it just doesn't Why why are we even

488
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>working on a God of War live service game? Like

489
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>is this really? Jim Ryan or Herman Holst has been like, Okay,

490
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:26.839
<v Speaker 1>every single franchise that we have that has any cache

491
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 1>needs to have a live service multiplayer. Yeah, and it's like, Okay,

492
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the Naughty Dog one actually worked the first time why

493
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 1>would you not have tried to put that out and

494
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>see if it at least lasted for six months or more,

495
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>like give it a shot, you know, Like, I don't

496
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 1>understand why we just canned it. Okay, I understand Parsley.

497
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Why you know, Neil Druckman didn't want to be working

498
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.839
<v Speaker 1>on that, and he didn't want to allocate resource to

499
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the studio to that. I'm sure that that would have

500
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>affected the lost profit game whatever getting made, So you know,

501
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I get that. I get that in a way, right,

502
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.559
<v Speaker 1>But still like that game probably would have been fine,

503
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's a history of that being multiplayer and people

504
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 1>actually liking it. Like you said, God of War is multiplayer.

505
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 1>It's like nobody wanted that, who said let's make that

506
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 1>likes who's allocating time to doing this? And then you got, well, okay,

507
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Horizon sort of makes sense, you could do multiplayer with that.

508
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>It seems to be the only like sort of one

509
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>that we know about that has any kind of a

510
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 1>big name attached to it still standing. The other ones

511
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 1>are fair Games, which that's from that Haven studio, which

512
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>we don't know if that's going to be any good,

513
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and it still has the reeks of there's a mill

514
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>in extraction shooters. What's gonna make this one better than

515
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the rest of them?

516
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Right?

517
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 1>You got that gummy bears thing from Destiny the Destiny

518
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 1>people that seems like they're trying to eight fortnite and

519
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that's I don't know, we'll see how.

520
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It should just bring back Fat Princess.

521
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you got Marathon which, okay, that's a known quantity,

522
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's also.

523
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>That sounds a good disaster, right Destiny.

524
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>People, So we don't know where that's going. But like, okay,

525
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:38.359
<v Speaker 1>the Twister Metal thing gone, the Deviation Games thing gone,

526
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the London studio gone, and the studio's gone. The Spider

527
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Man one, which that one could have been decent.

528
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that's another one. I don't really see how

529
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>you do like a big online multiplayer Spider Man game.

530
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>You can have like eight hundred thousand Spider Man swinging

531
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>around the city or you know, like yeah.

532
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh helld divers To is still going and Concord gone.

533
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 1>So but okay, so like I never played it, how

534
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 1>did that go to Sushima multiplayer thing work?

535
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 2>It was like four, it was like teams of four.

536
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>You weren't like Fate. I don't the one time I

537
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 2>tried it. Really it was like me yen to two

538
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 2>other people were like doing a mission together. I think

539
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 2>it was like hold the line or hold the hold

540
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the point or whatever, and were just like not against

541
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>enemies that were like warming us. That's fine, right, but

542
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that like that, I wouldn't even consider that Live service

543
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>because live service has such a different connoctation nowadays. Yeah,

544
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>it was just like, here's a multiplayer part, and like

545
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.200
<v Speaker 2>if they just wanted to do that with some of

546
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>these games, like I guess that would work, you know,

547
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>like like I actually didn't mind and charted fours like

548
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 2>a multiplayer like the death match or team death match

549
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:54.119
<v Speaker 2>thing they did. But like them going like, oh, it

550
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.839
<v Speaker 2>has to be live service. That means season pass. That

551
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>means like, oh, you gotta like we want players forever.

552
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta constantly putting out content, which means you're

553
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, driving the developers of a wall with this

554
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 1>stuff constantly. We were not getting enough engagement this week,

555
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 1>so we've got to figure out something. You gotta have modernization,

556
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have all this stuff, right, it's not gonna

557
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't see how any other than the

558
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Horizon one. I don't see how any of these things

559
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 1>are gonna last. And I understand like the Fair Gains

560
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>one apparently is way too far in development where they

561
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>can just cancel that, so that's probably why that's still going, right.

562
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.359
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously Horizon is Herman Holst, like you know,

563
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that's his baby, it's his studio he comes from, so

564
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 1>obviously that's not gonna get Yeah, but it's just like

565
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 1>they apparently did a review and decided that they needed

566
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.559
<v Speaker 1>to cancel these and it's just like listen between Herman

567
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Halls and Jim Ryan. Apparently this was like their whole deal, right,

568
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 1>the whole like let's let's do a million live service,

569
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's like this is this is shown to be

570
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>such egg on their faces. I still don't understand how

571
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Herman Holts is to see co CEO if everything he's

572
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>done aside, Look, I get it, okay, they also, uh

573
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're also the ones that decided on Astrobot.

574
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>They're also the ones that decided on some of the

575
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>other decisions that have have come out since then. So

576
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you got to give them their props when they do

577
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>make good decisions. But it's just like man so much

578
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>of their decision to go forward with these lab service

579
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 1>games has really become a thorn in their side, and

580
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it's become a problem for Sony entirely because these are

581
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 1>your main studios that are now not doing anything for

582
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the rest of this generation to do that, so well, no,

583
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what that's the problem, right exactly. Microsoft is gonna

584
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 1>supply you with all the games that you couldn't put out.

585
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, it's interesting that economy that you have now,

586
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 1>where Microsoft potentially could have anywhere from five to six

587
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 1>games come out in this one year to Sony has

588
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 1>nothing aside from whenever Fair Games is supposed to come out,

589
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and that's it. Like, what do they even have in

590
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the pipeline? They're like that Sony first party. I mean,

591
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I get it, they're the main console. They have all

592
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the third parties in the world. They'll be fine that way.

593
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying the one thing I can think

594
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 2>of that presumably is still I would say fairly want

595
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 2>along as Wolverine.

596
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like how much did that hack hurt them? You know?

597
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>And having that bad play will build out there and

598
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like them having to go back into the like are

599
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 1>we going to hear about that game at all this year,

600
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that's.

601
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>The interesting to the director, like left for Microsoft, like

602
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 2>left for Rare.

603
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's but yeah, it's just like there are so

604
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>many questions now from Sony of just where do you

605
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 1>go from here? Are you just basically telling them go

606
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>back to making what you know how to do? Is

607
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>this mean that we're gonna get Days Gone two now

608
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 1>after you know they decided to kill that It's.

609
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's the same problem that whatever rocks

610
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 2>they went through. It's like, why why would you tell

611
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 2>a developer who is specifically known for making one type

612
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>of great quality game, hey, do something completely different that's

613
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>a huge gamble that you're you're somewhat unfamiliar with, and

614
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:38.039
<v Speaker 2>let's hope it works. And then it doesn't, and then

615
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>everyone blames rock Steady and it's like, well, I mean,

616
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I guess I partially blame them. They could have said

617
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 2>no better maybe, but like they're not the ones ultimately

618
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>who who can say no.

619
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean whatever is it the same kind of

620
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.079
<v Speaker 1>push too of what they wanted everything to be lab

621
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>service lab service and that killed that you know, got

622
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>thrown into their as well, Like this does not work

623
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>people don't want this.

624
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Did you see how Justice League ended?

625
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>No? I didn't.

626
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.480
<v Speaker 2>It was great. So they basically just had comic book

627
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 2>panels like for the ending video, yeah, because they couldn't,

628
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, make any anything new. And the basic story

629
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, everyone who died in the game, like

630
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>all the heroes who died, they were all clones except

631
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<v Speaker 2>for wonder ones who actually died. It's like, what, like, okay, yeah,

632
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 2>but Batman, you know, he made these clones of all

633
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 2>this and they're the ones who got taken over by

634
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Brainiac and yeah, they're the ones who died. It's like, yeah,

635
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.320
<v Speaker 2>all right, cool.

636
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<v Speaker 1>It's like, all right, this is what we're doing here. Thanks. Yeah, yeah,

637
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, we got there's apparently another at least

638
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>one more speed run level. Don't know if it's gonna

639
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>be another set of speed runs that Asteroid's gonna have now. Yeah,

640
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 1>but okay, you know Astrobat's doing fine, right, Like, you know,

641
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>we that they can keep making Astrobot forever essentially and

642
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll be fine. Like okay, okay, we know Sucker Punch

643
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>is doing ghost Okay, that's coming. We know we get

644
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the next m we'll be the show and des Training

645
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>two on the Beach, which that's the second party, right,

646
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and then that's it aside from whenever the heck Intergalacticts,

647
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>right uh and then Wolverine. Like you said, everything else

648
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>is got canceled or it's a live service or you know,

649
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and we don't know when that's coming, no idea what

650
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>this Convalaria game is supposed to be. But still like

651
00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>it's really just Sony is very fortunate that they have

652
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.679
<v Speaker 1>these They are that I'm more on console, and they

653
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 1>have all these deals with for the exclusives on third party,

654
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 1>or they have second party games like Celeblay named Rosa

655
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Ronin that kind of got you through, right, yeah, And

656
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that's basically what this It almost feels like this is

657
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>what this generation is gonna be for them now since

658
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 1>the live service games are not gonna do well and

659
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 1>the ones that are still around probably you're not gonna

660
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what. I don't want to disparage anything with

661
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 1>fair Games or the Horizon one or whatever, you know.

662
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I want those devs to still be doing well and

663
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>those people to have jobs. But it's just like again,

664
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 1>like the ones that are sets of Hell Divers two

665
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that they needed twelve of those, and at

666
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>least Sony is understanding that and they're not just putting

667
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>them out there to die. But it just sucks. You

668
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:59.079
<v Speaker 1>wasted your studio's time doing these games that ultimately no

669
00:37:59.079 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 1>one wanted.

670
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where's the Tokyo Jungle Life service game?

671
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:11.679
<v Speaker 1>That says a lot We didn't get to that point. Yeah,

672
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 1>but hey, at least we know one game that's still

673
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>happening right allday nights. So Song it's happening, Mark, It's real.

674
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>It will release. According to Matthew Griffin, who handles their

675
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 1>pr he says that even though they don't have a

676
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>lot to talk about.

677
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'll in the you know, in the grand continuum

678
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.639
<v Speaker 2>of time, I'm sure to release, but within our lifetimes

679
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 2>it's still kind of an open question. You know, before that,

680
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>before the earth explosion, the sun you know, expands, like,

681
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 2>will release by then?

682
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Maybe apparently they had plans to release in the first

683
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 1>step of twenty twenty three, but development is still.

684
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Continuing that by two years.

685
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're just trying to make the game as

686
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>good as they can. Okay, that's cool whatever, It's just like,

687
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's great that somebody said something but wow,

688
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it feels like they've just been radio silent on that game.

689
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's like trying to make the game as

690
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>good as you can is a noble endeavor, but at

691
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.360
<v Speaker 2>a certain point, you know, put the game out right,

692
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Like that's what kind of has killed like Duke Nukem forever,

693
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Like when that game three years and that game's launched,

694
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>if they released it, then if they like they finished

695
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and released it, it wouldn't fine then taking ten more years,

696
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, when becoming increasingly like antiquated and outside of

697
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the norm like okay, okay, who cares.

698
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it still bothers me that it's like I don't know,

699
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.199
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't put out anything, like you couldn't have put

700
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>out something telling people that that game's fine or whatever.

701
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:50.519
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's weird the I.

702
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Mean it's telling that or in the Blind Forest, like

703
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 2>the count in twenty fifteen that was two years too.

704
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Hollow Night and the Blind Forest made a sequel. Yes,

705
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.159
<v Speaker 2>it was damn good, Like you knows, it was like

706
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.840
<v Speaker 2>five years later, like, which is like I would say,

707
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>is an acceptable like if they are really like breaking

708
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>everything down and making whole new assets and everything, like

709
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>that's an acceptable time. I guess for like a sequel, right,

710
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 2>but yo, it's been eight years now for Hollow Night.

711
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>It just feels like every time we've had a big event,

712
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like you were like, Okay, this is the time, right,

713
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>so song it's gonna get right announced and then nothing.

714
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

715
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.039
<v Speaker 1>It's like but I at least it says something, right,

716
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it is what it is.

717
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh, just want go eventually be out, you know.

718
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it eventually at some point in our lifetime, he said,

719
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>or maybe not just really quick wanted to mention at

720
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>least some good things on somebody's end. They did donate

721
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:56.119
<v Speaker 1>to the Wildlife Relief or Wildfire Relief, sorry for the

722
00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>wildfires that have sadly killed twenty five people and displaced

723
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>so many people and destroyed over like twelve thousand structures,

724
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 1>including so many homes. Hart goes out to all those

725
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>bullet are struggling with that. You know that that absolutely sucks.

726
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>But at least placesation having all these LA studios, you know,

727
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Naughty Dog, Insomniacs, Santa Monica, they all dominated a bunch

728
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>of money for that, So that's that's good. And also

729
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.039
<v Speaker 1>really quick, they did announce the PS plus extra and

730
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>premium games, which I think you can actually go download now.

731
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>God of what, Rag the Rock is on there, So

732
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you haven't played that yet and you do play the

733
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>first one, I guess you can go play that for

734
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>free on PS plus Lack of Dragon Guy Dan the

735
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Manuo Races Name, which was the you know, prequel game

736
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that came out for Infinite. Well, so if you wanted

737
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>to know what is going on with Cure You before

738
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we get to Infinite, Well, they haven't played either game.

739
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Go check that out. It's pretty short, actually, and it's

740
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Let's Fall and Rain in the Sand. It's

741
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty decent.

742
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Fall.

743
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 1>I've heard Sinai Wildhearts is actually really good. I would

744
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:11.320
<v Speaker 1>go check that out if I were y'all that like

745
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>those kind of games, says The Sleepers. Also another great

746
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:23.639
<v Speaker 1>indie game, and New Anna Much Mutinatum whatever also out there,

747
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and also the like last if you have premium the

748
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Last like decent Indiana Jones game. Indiana Jones The Staff

749
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of Kings is out there if you have you know

750
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>either PS four PSI The Medieval two also out there

751
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>on the premium side. So pretty pretty good month actually,

752
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't played some of these to go check out.

753
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>But that's it on the Sony side of things. Let's

754
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>move on to talking about Xbox. Here. We're gonna go

755
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.119
<v Speaker 1>back in the past with Xbox for a little bit.

756
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>A report came out from a weird site that people

757
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>are saying it has credence. So this is not like

758
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 1>something made up, but it's like, we we never really

759
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>heard about this website called the Information that Satia Nadella

760
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 1>before they bought x you know, Microsoft bought Bethesda, had

761
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:24.639
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to absolutely just kill off Xbox entirely in

762
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, right, you know, which was weird because

763
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 1>that was the year that Xbox did really well. They

764
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>had forced a rise in five, they had had Infinite

765
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>before you got the crap with oh the multiplayer doesn't

766
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.599
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of length and all that stuff, and

767
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>it has some decent games like in the lead up

768
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 1>as well to those two. It would have been kind

769
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of weird to see it like go out on a

770
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.639
<v Speaker 1>high note, I guess that way instead of seeing what

771
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you could do from there. But we know what happened

772
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 1>after that. They decided to go the other route, of

773
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 1>which was that was the option. He was either kill

774
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>off Xbox or go the right of buying publishers to

775
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>increase the chance people, you know, subscribing to game Pass.

776
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.599
<v Speaker 1>They went with the idea of buying publishers, which we

777
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 1>know they bought with us for that year, and then

778
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.639
<v Speaker 1>they went and bought did the whole actmage of Blizzard

779
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>king thing two years later just and then obviously that

780
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>has kind of started to backfire a little bit on

781
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 1>them because they still haven't they they go up and

782
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 1>record for a game Pass, but we don't know the number,

783
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and probably most likely a lot of those people canceled

784
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 1>after they got there. Fill the call of duty kicking around.

785
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I played for a month or two and then

786
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 2>all right, subscribe once another game comes out.

787
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 1>And then also the idea was that they also were

788
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>supposed to get a hundred million subscribers. That was part

789
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 1>of the deal of like keeping Xbox around, and they

790
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>had total twenty thirty to do it. Their strategy was

791
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>by these publishers, get people to subscribe to game Pass,

792
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and then also get other developers and publishers to see

793
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that and go, now I want to be in game

794
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Pass too, And in fact it actually has gone backwards.

795
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 1>You have less people wanting to go into game Pass.

796
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft is offering less money for games that go into

797
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>game Pass because they have their own games now to

798
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>put in the game Pass. So why would I go

799
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and give a third party a bunch of money to

800
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 1>go be in this thing that's costing as much money

801
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>every year. I mean, it's it's also ironic that like

802
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 1>this could be their best year ever as far as

803
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.800
<v Speaker 1>output goes, and then you know, I.

804
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Mean they made one good.

805
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Game well this year coming that hasn't.

806
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sorry, yeah yeah, not not last year Okay, yeah.

807
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But it's just it's like, this is why they

808
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>now gone the route of giving games to PlayStation and

809
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 1>giving games to presumably switch to because that's the only

810
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 1>way they're able to stay afloat at this now. Obviously,

811
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess again this year notwithstanding with all these games

812
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that they have in the pipeline, they could also believe

813
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>this year. But it's like, Okay, that's why you have

814
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the rumor of Halo and Gears and all that stuff coming,

815
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 1>because they need all that capital and net income to

816
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 1>show that this Xbox team is not just using their

817
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 1>resources to make games that will then not translate the

818
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Game Pass subscribers. So do you think now looking back

819
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>on I know that we've had these three or four

820
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>years of this. Obviously it took it took them two

821
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>years to finally get the actors of Blair stuff. Another

822
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>part of that was also that one of the investors

823
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>talked about basically after Vision Blizzard has been disappointing that

824
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't worth the money. Do you think that they

825
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 1>went down the wrong path of buying the publishers and

826
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and trying to put everything to game pass or was

827
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.519
<v Speaker 1>did they not just have they just didn't have any options.

828
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I think they should have had better options, or you know,

829
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.800
<v Speaker 2>like I think the Activision Blizzard kinking is kind of

830
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 2>a huge It's still like a boon bobble because you know,

831
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 2>say about U Weeksoft or Square or whatever they made,

832
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:29.400
<v Speaker 2>they put out typically three or four games a year

833
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:33.119
<v Speaker 2>that the Vision puts out one game a year. No, realistically,

834
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean they might have had like the Crash Bandicoot

835
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.679
<v Speaker 2>trilogy the one year, or like twenty Hawk one and

836
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:41.440
<v Speaker 2>two the other year, but like they only put out

837
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Call of Duty, and yeah, Blizard you know is a mess,

838
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>uh or is like a huge, huge mess right now.

839
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't. King doesn't really enter into the

840
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 2>conversation for me because I don't know that Spade and

841
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

842
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Care until they get their mobile store going. King is

843
00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:01.119
<v Speaker 1>basically just there giving giving them money with people buying

844
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 1>those games, you know, spending money on those games that

845
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 1>they were doing before Microsoft.

846
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:11.280
<v Speaker 2>But like, yeah, like I like realistically, like okay, let's

847
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:15.480
<v Speaker 2>say game Pass spikes, Like the month Call of Duty

848
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 2>comes out, It's like, okay, but what happens the next

849
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 2>month or the month after that? Really, like, how how

850
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:24.320
<v Speaker 2>much does it go down? Like for the amount of

851
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>money you know, Microsoft bought, you know, Activision four they

852
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 2>should have bought honestly, like Ubisoft and Sega or Ubisoft

853
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 2>in the Square or a Square in Sega or you know.

854
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe I don't think Squared every Sullivan necessarily,

855
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 2>but I meant like that's the type of more option

856
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>they were, like to be more forward thinking options they

857
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>should have done is by by a developer and a

858
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.800
<v Speaker 2>publisher that can put out games. I agree with that

859
00:48:56.239 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>games plural, not game They with that.

860
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think their idea was, Okay, we're gonna get

861
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty, which that means we get a lot

862
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 1>of revenue. We get a lot of money. People will

863
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>come to game Pass for that. I definitely probably they

864
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 1>probably thought that they could get things going with that division,

865
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 1>with with the Blizzard side of things. The problem is

866
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that all these franchises are not you know, Wow is

867
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 1>on Wow.

868
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>They just have a twentieth anniversary, So that's a twenty

869
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.960
<v Speaker 2>year old game. Yeah you're not You're not getting new

870
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>players to Wow. That's your damn sure.

871
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's just another revenue source that's not gonna

872
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.639
<v Speaker 1>get more people in the door to play in that game.

873
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Like I said, I mean, I know it'll be

874
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:46.960
<v Speaker 2>very bad. It just happens, or it will show like

875
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 2>real desperation. But once they say, hey, subscribe to game Pass,

876
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>you get Wow for free, or we're combining to Wow subscription,

877
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>bet and game Pass like that, that is a bad time.

878
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 2>But you got to get people to play a while again.

879
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Do you like, I've seen a lot of the I've

880
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.079
<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of it online and I and I

881
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:11.719
<v Speaker 1>look at it and go it's a great idea in theory,

882
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, can you go do you think they

883
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 1>could go backwards at this point? Could they just kill

884
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:22.000
<v Speaker 1>game Pass and just say, okay, we're going back to

885
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the model that everybody else has. You have to buy

886
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:27.440
<v Speaker 1>our games and that's it. Do you think that that

887
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.199
<v Speaker 1>could help them at all? Do you think that basically

888
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.440
<v Speaker 1>they might as well just that's it. We're just a

889
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.679
<v Speaker 1>third party publisher now. If they have to kill game Pass.

890
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 2>I think that the problem is if they tried that,

891
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.840
<v Speaker 2>too many people like you would revolt and would never

892
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:43.599
<v Speaker 2>buy another Microsoft game again.

893
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean I still buy their games now, so that

894
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't I would hate it because that's then another thing

895
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, we're going to talk about a

896
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit of another cost of games of like I know,

897
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 1>other slew of games that are now on the pile

898
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>of man okay, I really I another slew of things

899
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:09.639
<v Speaker 1>that I have to go, man okay? Which ones do

900
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 1>I really want? Because I no longer have the ability

901
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to go okay, I'm gonna play all these games in

902
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:16.639
<v Speaker 1>game Pass, so I don't need to, you know, think

903
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>about buying them off the bat or whatever if I

904
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about them for the podcasts or write

905
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:26.840
<v Speaker 1>about them or whatever. You know, I think they can

906
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 1>go backwards as far as like, will people accept it? Yes,

907
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 1>The problem with going backwards now is that you gave

908
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>away all of your exclusives, so you cannot all of

909
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 1>a sudden go oh yeah, we're no longer bringing that

910
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:44.559
<v Speaker 1>the PlayStation or bringing out the PlayStation. You already brought everything,

911
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 1>so you have you you literally not as well. Just

912
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>if game Pass goes away, you might as well it's

913
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>killed the console and tell me you're a third party publisher.

914
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 2>The next step would be, hey, we're bringing all those

915
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:02.159
<v Speaker 2>like we're bringing all those things back to exclusive Xboxes

916
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 2>or Xbox Control. But like the problem is who cares

917
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 2>or you know, like the damage has been done to

918
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 2>so many of those franchises that it's like, oh, I

919
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.199
<v Speaker 2>mean they have announced Halo is going to be a

920
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.960
<v Speaker 2>multiplatform or anything. But if like if somehow Halo ended

921
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 2>up on PS five and then like for the PS

922
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 2>six and whatever Xbox new console, they're like, nope, it's

923
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna get back to Xbox. Like yeah, right, I'm good,

924
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.719
<v Speaker 2>or you know, like they haven't been good shepherds with

925
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 2>their franchises, so that's it. That's like the other issue.

926
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just think that it's game Pass is there exclusive.

927
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:46.639
<v Speaker 1>So if you destroy game Pass, especially if you destroy

928
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.159
<v Speaker 1>before you get to the new consoles, you may as

929
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:52.760
<v Speaker 1>well just don't even bother putting out a console because

930
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you have no reason at all for someone to subscribe

931
00:52:56.519 --> 00:53:00.519
<v Speaker 1>to your tip, for somebody to buy your console outside

932
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.079
<v Speaker 1>of just oh, I want the one that says Xbox

933
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>on Yeah, but there's nothing in that ecosystem that goes, Okay,

934
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>here's the reason why I need to buy this Xbox

935
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and and that's that's the point. Is like now they

936
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>have to hold on to game Pass for dear life,

937
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 1>because it's the only thing that is a driver for

938
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 1>this entire marketing thing that they're doing. Of everything's an Xbox, right, Like,

939
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that helps you if you have either

940
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>an Xbox console or a PC game Pass or whatever

941
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.760
<v Speaker 1>is game Pass. So if you buy it on PlayStation

942
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:38.119
<v Speaker 1>or Nintendo, you can play the game, but you know

943
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna have game Pass. So now they could,

944
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.800
<v Speaker 1>but again, it's like if everybody already has all of

945
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.599
<v Speaker 1>your stuff, you're just essentially selling a console where you

946
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>get to say, well, this is where it came from,

947
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>but there's nothing like great in order to have it.

948
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like they're really in this test twenty two,

949
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 1>where I hope for them this year hits all the

950
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>games so that they can justify why game passes to

951
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.159
<v Speaker 1>be around and all the stuff or whatever, and just

952
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.559
<v Speaker 1>for these studios also because they need wins.

953
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 2>But it's a bit like, I mean, it's almost kind

954
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.679
<v Speaker 2>of like the PS two GameCube Xbox uh you know

955
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 2>battle back in the day. Like, yeah, PS two obviously

956
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.440
<v Speaker 2>had like the largest amount of like interesting or like

957
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 2>quality game Xbox had a clearer power differential if developers

958
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.960
<v Speaker 2>like made it that way or programmed it. But outside

959
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:41.039
<v Speaker 2>of Nintendo, shit, like the GameCube is like terrible. It's like, well,

960
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it can more or less handle the PS two, like,

961
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>but it can't reach the Xbox, and a lot of

962
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 2>these games look kind of worse. So it's like, yeah,

963
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:54.239
<v Speaker 2>if you don't have Luigi's Mansion and Animal Cross and

964
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 2>propping this thing up, why do you have a GameCube

965
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:57.199
<v Speaker 2>at all? Right?

966
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's when Nintendo was able to dev eight and go, Okay,

967
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna care about graphics anymore. We're gonna care

968
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>about innovation being different, right.

969
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, Hey, I worked out for the next year next.

970
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Year exactly, it did. But this is sort of Microsoft's

971
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>way of being different of just like, Okay, we're gonna

972
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.320
<v Speaker 1>put our games on everything, and help to God that

973
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:21.119
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to go this way, and you know, and

974
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.559
<v Speaker 1>it is welcoming, it is accepting. It's nice in a

975
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>way that they're doing that, but it's still kind of

976
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.360
<v Speaker 1>like if there's ever an opportunity where Sony is not

977
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:36.000
<v Speaker 1>putting out banger after banger after banger, and Nintendo's kind

978
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 1>of in this waiting period. I we don't know when

979
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the Switch two is gonna come out. This is the

980
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:44.119
<v Speaker 1>year where you can gain some kind of traction. Microsoft

981
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 1>really needs to hit this, and I really do think

982
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 1>that they also need to like put Halo, put Gears,

983
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 1>put something on the launch of the Switch too, so

984
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that we know your games are out there, and then hey,

985
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna sell more for you on on the Switch

986
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>as well. Make the Switch their console that people want

987
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to go play your Microsoft games on or whatever, even

988
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:09.559
<v Speaker 1>if they're the older ones. But I think it's out

989
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:11.760
<v Speaker 1>there for them to be able to grab. Will they

990
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.599
<v Speaker 1>ever not be in third place? I think that's really

991
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 1>hard at this point with the way Sony and Nintendo

992
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>were dominant, and the Switch too looks to keep things

993
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the same thing for them, but they can keep themselves

994
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>viable and that's the important Brolocks survive till the next

995
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 1>next time, and that's that's what they got to do. Yeah, yeah,

996
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and exactly another role dice, will we get to another

997
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>year where oh man, could Sony like lesson? That was

998
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>another thing I was gonna bring up to I forgot

999
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:45.519
<v Speaker 1>what the Sony thing is. There was a lot of

1000
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>people talking about, now, oh well, this means Sony's really

1001
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna shorten that gap with PC. They're gonna start releasing

1002
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 1>even their single player games day and date to recoup

1003
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 1>some of that money something that Microsoft already does. You

1004
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.920
<v Speaker 1>think Sony could do that as a way to like, well,

1005
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:03.320
<v Speaker 1>we got to get some of the money back from

1006
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:06.400
<v Speaker 1>these studios all the time and investment that got wasted

1007
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>at putting like let's not maybe not Ghosts of Yota,

1008
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:12.960
<v Speaker 1>perhaps and that's let's say, even what if ghost comes

1009
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>out like three months after the game instead of two years?

1010
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that happening?

1011
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.079
<v Speaker 2>No? I still think it'll be like their usual cycle,

1012
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 2>just because they want it to be that way and

1013
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 2>they want I think it's like they want their console

1014
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.280
<v Speaker 2>owners to feel it's not special at least validated for

1015
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>buying the console in the first place.

1016
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, that's part of it. And also they wanted

1017
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to double dip right of later you get to make

1018
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.599
<v Speaker 1>the big announcement of oh it's coming to PC right

1019
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>by it here, even though it didn't as long as

1020
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>they keep having that PSN thing where you have to

1021
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 1>log into PSN, and that seems to not be as

1022
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>great as they want it to be.

1023
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 2>But people are like so but hurt about that? Who cares?

1024
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Like honest, it's like you're specifically in the regions like

1025
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:02.559
<v Speaker 2>that PSN isn't in there, Like how many people is that? Really?

1026
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 1>But the technology is so good that they should be

1027
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.039
<v Speaker 1>able to have a thing that identifies whether you're in

1028
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>one of those regions or not.

1029
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I think the skiing does that though they say basically

1030
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 2>like when you go to buy it, you might say like, hey,

1031
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.719
<v Speaker 2>you're in a region that this doesn't support, or you know,

1032
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:21.360
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, even even if that's not the case, like

1033
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:23.639
<v Speaker 2>even if you're like you know, from the USA buying

1034
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:26.199
<v Speaker 2>the scene and people are all outraged by signing the PSN.

1035
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.199
<v Speaker 2>It's like, don't remember games Throne those live. That's such.

1036
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that sucked worse works, you know, and you

1037
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:37.320
<v Speaker 2>like you don't have to like patch the game through

1038
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.800
<v Speaker 2>unstable servers to get fucking Viva Pinata working, Like it's

1039
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.239
<v Speaker 2>just it's just an overlay or it's just one more

1040
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.239
<v Speaker 2>thing you gotta sign in through. And it's not like

1041
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 2>some separate storefront either, Like you're signing through it once

1042
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's it.

1043
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I feel like at some point they might as well

1044
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.440
<v Speaker 1>just get their own line. No, I don't, well, I know,

1045
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.679
<v Speaker 1>but it's just like, if you're gonna really go down

1046
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:03.239
<v Speaker 1>this road, I just get your own launchra and avoid

1047
00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the PSN thing, and that way maybe you don't get

1048
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.519
<v Speaker 1>as many people getting upset, But I don't know. It's

1049
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:09.960
<v Speaker 1>one way to but I guess then you're gonna get

1050
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:12.639
<v Speaker 1>upset because even if you're playing it through Steam, you

1051
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:13.960
<v Speaker 1>use the launchers.

1052
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

1053
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.880
<v Speaker 1>But moving on to what I alluded to earlier, h

1054
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>A big story that came out today is according to

1055
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Ball of Epelon, who's an analyst, I don't know

1056
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:33.039
<v Speaker 1>where he's getting this information. I don't know what industry

1057
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>people he's talking to. He doesn't really say he just

1058
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 1>says that, according to the report and people that he's

1059
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>talked to in the industry, there is hope within the

1060
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.719
<v Speaker 1>video game industry that the publisher take to will use

1061
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:52.079
<v Speaker 1>the unprecedented excitement around GTA six in order to bump

1062
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>with the default price of the game to one hundred dollars.

1063
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:56.480
<v Speaker 2>That's dumbass in his head.

1064
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 1>And you know, this also leads to them talking about, well,

1065
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>this could just lead to the game costing eighty dollars

1066
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.280
<v Speaker 1>anywhere from eighty to one hundred dollars, and then would

1067
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:13.960
<v Speaker 1>allow third party publishers to feel that they can now

1068
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:17.480
<v Speaker 1>raise the price of their games to at least eighty dollars.

1069
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:21.599
<v Speaker 1>We've heard, you know, We've heard Capcom talk about games

1070
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:25.559
<v Speaker 1>aren't expensive enough. We've heard other developers talk about how

1071
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 1>games should be more expensive that you know, not just inflation,

1072
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:32.239
<v Speaker 1>but the game development costs so much more now that

1073
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're lucky that we're even paying seventy but

1074
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>this would be the second rise in price in the

1075
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:46.480
<v Speaker 1>same generation, which we haven't really seen before. I feel

1076
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:49.239
<v Speaker 1>like it's a no brainer that Grand Theft Autos six

1077
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 1>will cost more than seventy dollars. The thing is will

1078
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:56.559
<v Speaker 1>that actually happen to the point where people will make

1079
01:00:56.719 --> 01:01:02.159
<v Speaker 1>their make other game, other publishers make their games also eighty.

1080
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Though, Well, here's the thing I think. I think, like

1081
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Base GTA six will still be seventy bucks, but they'll

1082
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:10.239
<v Speaker 2>sell like eight hundred different versions where it's like, oh,

1083
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 2>it's you buy the ten dollars extra extra one, you

1084
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.320
<v Speaker 2>get you know, five hundred thousand dollars in cash and

1085
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:20.519
<v Speaker 2>GTA online, or if you buy the digital Dlux version

1086
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.360
<v Speaker 2>FO one hundred dollars, then then you get like additional

1087
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:25.880
<v Speaker 2>character skins or you know, a new house or whatever.

1088
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I think still Base gaining at least seventy bucks. I

1089
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:30.639
<v Speaker 2>think like they could try to get away with it

1090
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.039
<v Speaker 2>being eighty and that one game might be able to

1091
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.360
<v Speaker 2>pull it off, but that's it, like you know, everything

1092
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:39.880
<v Speaker 2>else is. You know, if they try to make Madden

1093
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:43.039
<v Speaker 2>be eighty bucks or called did You be eighty? But

1094
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 2>like Nose, they're too annualized.

1095
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's where you are wrong, because that's

1096
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.719
<v Speaker 1>all it takes is grand theft thought. It will be

1097
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.159
<v Speaker 1>the springboard. I do think that they're going to take

1098
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:02.239
<v Speaker 1>advantage of that to make grant that thought six, Base

1099
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.440
<v Speaker 1>eighty dollars. I don't think one hundred dollars. I just

1100
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:06.519
<v Speaker 1>don't think one hundred dollars they're gonna do it. I

1101
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.000
<v Speaker 1>think one hundred dollars is too much.

1102
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:11.679
<v Speaker 2>I hated the way this guy phrases it was like, oh,

1103
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.119
<v Speaker 2>game publishers are hoping this will happen.

1104
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I wouldn't be surprised if they are.

1105
01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:19.280
<v Speaker 2>No, they are. The game developers aren't because they're not

1106
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:20.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna get the money from it.

1107
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, game developers are not. But game publishers definitely

1108
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.000
<v Speaker 1>are because they want to be able to charge more

1109
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:27.039
<v Speaker 1>for their games. They definitely want to be able to

1110
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:28.800
<v Speaker 1>charge more than seventy dollars. I'll tell you that right now.

1111
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:31.400
<v Speaker 1>If somebody told them they can charge eighty dollars, they will.

1112
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:34.960
<v Speaker 2>But like the money, it's it's like, oh, the well,

1113
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:37.960
<v Speaker 2>they can get it. I mean they want it, obviously,

1114
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:39.320
<v Speaker 2>but it's not gonna go back to the people who

1115
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:41.400
<v Speaker 2>made the game, or it's not gonna way back.

1116
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 1>But it does help the overall industry if more people

1117
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:48.159
<v Speaker 1>are spending more money per game that they buy and

1118
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:50.559
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, which that's the point, right.

1119
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:56.199
<v Speaker 2>My issue with it, no, because like you already said that.

1120
01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, games went from sixty to seventy dollars this generation,

1121
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:02.639
<v Speaker 2>and hey, in the past two years, what have we

1122
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:06.639
<v Speaker 2>had record breaking game lay off? You know, job layouts

1123
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:10.039
<v Speaker 2>in the game industry, right, but that clearly doesn't happen.

1124
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:15.320
<v Speaker 1>No, okay, But here's here's my point in that if

1125
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna say that Grand Theft, Auto, Madden, NBA two

1126
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.880
<v Speaker 1>k H, Call of Duty, all these big games which

1127
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.880
<v Speaker 1>people will pay the extra ten dollars to play because

1128
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it's the only games they buy. So spending ten more

1129
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 1>dollars is not gonna be a big deal to them,

1130
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:35.519
<v Speaker 1>and that's all it takes. Then all of a sudden

1131
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.880
<v Speaker 1>you'll get Capcom going, ah, you know, maybe we'll make

1132
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:41.519
<v Speaker 1>residue with nine eighty bucks.

1133
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:42.239
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1134
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Now, they they're also the ones that talk out of

1135
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:48.920
<v Speaker 1>both sides of their mouth where they'll complain that seventy

1136
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:50.920
<v Speaker 1>dollars is not enough, and then they charge sixty bucks

1137
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:54.599
<v Speaker 1>for the latest game that they just released. So that's

1138
01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:57.280
<v Speaker 1>their problem. But like, I don't think they would do

1139
01:03:57.320 --> 01:03:59.639
<v Speaker 1>with Monster Hunter either. I think they would definitely charge

1140
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the dollars and that's it. But it will get if

1141
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:07.079
<v Speaker 1>enough games do it, it will give the next time

1142
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you go around, they may think about it, right, because

1143
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:13.559
<v Speaker 1>the more it becomes commonplace and the more you're spending

1144
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:16.679
<v Speaker 1>eighty bucks every time on those games, that's more revenue

1145
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:20.440
<v Speaker 1>for those publishers. Again, doesn't go back to developers. That

1146
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:23.639
<v Speaker 1>goes about those publishers, and that increases the health of

1147
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 1>the industry along with switch to coming out and providing

1148
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a big boot if you will, buying systems and games

1149
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:33.039
<v Speaker 1>and whatever. That's the whole point of what he's trying

1150
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to say. My issue with it is this is gonna

1151
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:39.320
<v Speaker 1>go counter to what we need, which is we don't

1152
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:43.320
<v Speaker 1>need more revenue coming in like that. What we need

1153
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.840
<v Speaker 1>is for publishers to understand that you have to lower

1154
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:49.079
<v Speaker 1>the budgets of games, and you have to lower the

1155
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:53.800
<v Speaker 1>size of the studio and which unfortunately increase the layoffs,

1156
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 1>but you need that. You don't need to then have

1157
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.960
<v Speaker 1>an excuse to make bigger budge just because you're making

1158
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:03.960
<v Speaker 1>bit more money every time you make a game come out.

1159
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:07.639
<v Speaker 1>So I hate the phrasing that he uses too. He's

1160
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:11.800
<v Speaker 1>not wrong in the just base sense of what he's saying,

1161
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.920
<v Speaker 1>but I would hate to see it happen, because that

1162
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:20.280
<v Speaker 1>just gives the the big publishers more incentive to, oh, well,

1163
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:24.559
<v Speaker 1>we can keep the process that the budgets the same,

1164
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.199
<v Speaker 1>because now we're making eighty dollars every time somebody buys

1165
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a game, and then if you nickel and dying with

1166
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the special editions and all that, that's one hundred dollars,

1167
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:36.800
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten dollars. So you know, just I

1168
01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:40.719
<v Speaker 1>hate to see the industry get worse before it gets better,

1169
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:43.519
<v Speaker 1>is what I don't want to see. Which that's what

1170
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 1>will happen. You have a lot more games costing eighty bucks,

1171
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:51.039
<v Speaker 1>worse industry than what it was, whereas where people have

1172
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to understand control and understand budgets. And I think, even, yeah.

1173
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. I mean, because I know

1174
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:01.400
<v Speaker 2>you really liked it. If fancy seven Rebirths, it's like

1175
01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:03.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty percent less of a game, Like if they cut

1176
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:07.639
<v Speaker 2>out the Gunganga region, would you have like complained or

1177
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:09.000
<v Speaker 2>would you have like felt like you didn't get your

1178
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:09.519
<v Speaker 2>money's worth?

1179
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:12.760
<v Speaker 1>No, because you're gonna tell me that they just moved

1180
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:17.039
<v Speaker 1>it over to part three, right although Gongaga.

1181
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm saying like they just cut it out completely

1182
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.119
<v Speaker 2>if they're just like, Nope, we're only going to make

1183
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:26.679
<v Speaker 2>four regions, not five. H you know, here's here it is,

1184
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 2>that's it.

1185
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I would have gotten upset because.

1186
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:32.880
<v Speaker 2>About the story itself. I'm just talking about, like.

1187
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:36.039
<v Speaker 1>As long as as long as the story stuff that

1188
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:39.119
<v Speaker 1>was in that region, which was awesome, is not being

1189
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:42.159
<v Speaker 1>cut out, yeah, then I'm fine with it. If you're

1190
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.960
<v Speaker 1>telling me they cut that entire arc out of the

1191
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:49.239
<v Speaker 1>story because now that that whole part of Rebirth is

1192
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:51.519
<v Speaker 1>not there, then yes, I would have been upset because

1193
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:54.159
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the best parts of the entire game,

1194
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:59.760
<v Speaker 1>was the story part, not the searching around Gongaga party,

1195
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. So yeah, I would have been upset, Like

1196
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and I understand that, but I think we're already getting

1197
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:08.519
<v Speaker 1>to the far where people are getting like the open

1198
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:09.559
<v Speaker 1>world fatigue. Bro.

1199
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I took a big problem with Star Wars Outlaws.

1200
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, this big ass world, or they got like,

1201
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, four or five planets and there's not such

1202
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:19.400
<v Speaker 2>to do it most of them, or you know, it's

1203
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.400
<v Speaker 2>just very Hey, this looks nice, I guess, but there's

1204
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of content here because they can't if

1205
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:27.559
<v Speaker 2>they underfill each planet with content it would have been

1206
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:32.119
<v Speaker 2>eight times is more expensive and wouldn't have sold would

1207
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:34.880
<v Speaker 2>have sold ten more copies, you know who cares? Or

1208
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:37.320
<v Speaker 2>like Spider Man two is like another good example, like

1209
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:41.559
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna cut the game world down to like and

1210
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:45.599
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't have mattered really like, yeah, it's still fine,

1211
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.480
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's like the problem of yeah, ballooning budgets.

1212
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:51.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, they just can't say no or this.

1213
01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 1>And then it's also gonna make people make game they

1214
01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:58.280
<v Speaker 1>already have. There's a many complaints about there's too many

1215
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 1>games that enough people to go around them, right, so

1216
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you make games more expensive. It's not so. I heard

1217
01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:09.639
<v Speaker 1>this idea today of like, oh, people are just entitled

1218
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:12.239
<v Speaker 1>to feeling like you need to be able to buy

1219
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:16.159
<v Speaker 1>every game. That's not true because games except Nintendo games

1220
01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:18.079
<v Speaker 1>go on sale, So it doesn't matter. They're gonna go

1221
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:20.880
<v Speaker 1>on sale, whether they're eighty ninety, one hundred whatever, they're

1222
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:22.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna go on sale. And then people are still gonna

1223
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.840
<v Speaker 1>buy them on sale because they don't magically have twenty

1224
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:29.439
<v Speaker 1>more dollars to buy all these games. So that's the point.

1225
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:31.880
<v Speaker 1>If nobody is buying the game, guess what they're not

1226
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:34.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna make the game, so you can complain about the

1227
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:39.560
<v Speaker 1>entitlement of though, well the game should games should cost

1228
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 1>more because it's been you know, all that time, and

1229
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.159
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. Listen, if nobody's buying the game because

1230
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:50.079
<v Speaker 1>the game costs one hundred dollars, it doesn't matter. That's

1231
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:54.159
<v Speaker 1>that's the point is that, like if every third party,

1232
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:56.520
<v Speaker 1>big third party game that comes out now is eighty

1233
01:08:56.640 --> 01:08:59.920
<v Speaker 1>instead of seventy or ninety instead of seventy or whatever

1234
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.399
<v Speaker 1>the price, that means less people are gonna buy that game,

1235
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:07.319
<v Speaker 1>except for Grand six because it is such a seminal,

1236
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:11.840
<v Speaker 1>once in a lifetime, once in a generation game, people

1237
01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:12.319
<v Speaker 1>will buy it.

1238
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:15.159
<v Speaker 2>It is worth that until the next generation when they

1239
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:15.800
<v Speaker 2>put it out again.

1240
01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, but you know what I mean, like it's

1241
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:21.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna come out. It's not something we're gonna have

1242
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a grand thefoughto sevens, right, even even Manning Call of

1243
01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Duty all that stuff, because those people that buy those games,

1244
01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the only games they play. They will pay that.

1245
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:37.880
<v Speaker 1>But then that goes down to the First Worker Gaisons

1246
01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:44.479
<v Speaker 1>and even Assassin's Cree Shadows and uh, the ulteri Umias

1247
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and all the other games that are not the absolutely

1248
01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:51.840
<v Speaker 1>huge games, those get affected every time you increase the price.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why you can't across the board do that

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01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:59.399
<v Speaker 1>because people will not buy your game. You know, Monster

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01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred sign but it could affect you know, say how

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01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:05.000
<v Speaker 1>many people buy Residenteval at launch, resid will nine at

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01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:10.239
<v Speaker 1>launch or whatever. It's it's something that's not helpful in

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01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:13.640
<v Speaker 1>an industry sense because you're just gonna get less games

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01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:17.239
<v Speaker 1>being bought in more of the big franchises, and it's

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01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna affect again the smaller games, all that stuff that

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01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:23.279
<v Speaker 1>gets made. So I just I hope we don't see it.

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01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm worried that we are, because I just feel like

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01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:30.640
<v Speaker 1>rock Star's waiting. Rock Star is waiting to drop that

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01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.720
<v Speaker 1>price with the release. Inego, yep, the best game is

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01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.560
<v Speaker 1>eighty bucks. Deal with it. You love Grand Theft Auto six,

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01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:40.079
<v Speaker 1>You will buy it. We know you will. And that's it.

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01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:47.359
<v Speaker 1>But moving on from that to I don't really even

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01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:51.039
<v Speaker 1>know what we have left to talk about here, but

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01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I know it's not as big as that. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to mention Microsoft also made some more layoffs. They

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01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:02.680
<v Speaker 1>laid off. I think it's like one percent of its employees.

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<v Speaker 1>But part of it is in the gaming division.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:08.399
<v Speaker 1>And also part of it is in I think that

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01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:12.119
<v Speaker 1>security and sales and stuff like that. So again sucks

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01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:17.119
<v Speaker 1>for those SEQUL hate seeing it. Hope these will find

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01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 1>jobs quickly. Whoever were affected, Uh, the Guillo family and

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01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Tencent apparently. The latest with this is also from bloombird,

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01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:31.560
<v Speaker 1>is that they may basically take assets, the big assets

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01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:35.039
<v Speaker 1>from Ubisoft or small I don't know what size assets,

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01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:38.279
<v Speaker 1>but the important assets from you Soft, and then spin

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01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:41.319
<v Speaker 1>that off into a new company to basically get the

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01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:46.920
<v Speaker 1>stench of Ubisoft off them. I feel like that's good

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01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in one way as far as like, Okay, we're no

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01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 1>longer called gbsoft, but we're still making the Assassin's Creed

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01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:59.439
<v Speaker 1>ray Man and whatever other ip you decide is worth making.

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01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:04.920
<v Speaker 2>The transit this is like, yeah, this is exactly how

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01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:08.000
<v Speaker 2>much of the wire have you seen? Yeah?

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01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:09.439
<v Speaker 1>No, I've lost the whole thing.

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01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, this is exactly what happened when Springer Bell

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01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:16.720
<v Speaker 2>was talking to is like economics professor about like changing

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01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:19.159
<v Speaker 2>changing the name of the product. We're still having the

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01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:24.680
<v Speaker 2>same ship product. Like yeah, it's like okay, theoretically maybe

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01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:26.840
<v Speaker 2>it could work, but like the same people are still

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01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:31.199
<v Speaker 2>in charge of fucking the company up. So whow would

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01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.479
<v Speaker 2>this you know, if he was like, oh, we're making

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01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 2>we're making Ubisoft too, We're making some other French you know,

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01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:40.000
<v Speaker 2>French name or whatever, and hey, Assassin's Creed is here,

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01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:41.720
<v Speaker 2>and spend our cells here even though I won't make

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01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:44.479
<v Speaker 2>another one. And we're still making Dean Good Needle too,

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01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and it only take thirty more years. And you know

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01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.119
<v Speaker 2>they said, okay, but you're still in charge. Any're the

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01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:51.239
<v Speaker 2>ones who wrecked who saw in the first place, So

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01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:53.159
<v Speaker 2>why would you first you at all?

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01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.840
<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't that, that's to me. That's the point is

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01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:01.039
<v Speaker 1>like this doesn't make any sense other than this is

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01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:04.119
<v Speaker 1>the only way the Guimo family will accept ten Cent

1304
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:08.520
<v Speaker 1>taking them over is it's not called Ubisoft, so therefore

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01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:10.760
<v Speaker 1>they feel like there's no legacy attached to it.

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01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't think like the other shareholder would be would

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01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:16.840
<v Speaker 2>okay this either it's not going ago, Oh we're gonna

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01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:20.039
<v Speaker 2>sell off our main franchise is the family the company. Okay,

1309
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:22.640
<v Speaker 2>you can get you get to keep our stock that's

1310
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:25.479
<v Speaker 2>in the toilet right now. Like I'm gonna vote no

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01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:28.680
<v Speaker 2>on that. I'm just gonna vote them out instead, or

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01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:30.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I.

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01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't, I don't understand, Like, if I'm tension, why would

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01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I allow the Guimo family to be involved in this

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01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:39.199
<v Speaker 1>at all? You are the people that have screwed up

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01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:42.239
<v Speaker 1>this company. Why do you get to continue to own

1317
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it and continue to screw it up more, just with

1318
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:48.479
<v Speaker 1>more people, just with different people putting money into it?

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01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Like how about how about they can they can own

1320
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:56.279
<v Speaker 2>the uh not not the Rayman franchise, but the Raven

1321
01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Rabbits franchise.

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01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:01.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, if I'm gonna take this over, that

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01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:04.520
<v Speaker 1>means you're owning a lesser stake to the point where

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01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you cannot tell me what to do. Yeah, and you're

1325
01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:10.760
<v Speaker 1>essumially just there for the ride, getting money because you

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01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:13.880
<v Speaker 1>used to own it. And you're allowing us ten cent

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01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to do what we want to do with your IP

1328
01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and with with the whatever ips we decide are still

1329
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:25.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be around, and just let it still be Ubisoft

1330
01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Because to me, if you're just changing the name like

1331
01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you said, and you're just continuing to keep everything the same,

1332
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not really gonna change anything other than okay. And

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01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 1>then also, how does that make the people that the

1334
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:42.920
<v Speaker 1>developers and the people working in your company feel that

1335
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:47.159
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't even stick around on the ship long enough

1336
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to try to write it or whatever. You just decided

1337
01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:53.720
<v Speaker 1>to get off and go lay off everybody else behind

1338
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:57.000
<v Speaker 1>it or whatever, you know, And it's like that, it's

1339
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.079
<v Speaker 1>just to me, it's just a bad decision. Like I

1340
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:02.279
<v Speaker 1>feel like whenever ten Cent wants to, they're gonna pull

1341
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:05.359
<v Speaker 1>the trigger and this is gonna be an end of discussion.

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01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're just kind of waiting around and

1343
01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they're waiting to see what Assassin's Creed Shadows does and

1344
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:15.880
<v Speaker 1>then that will be the final nail that just says, Okay,

1345
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Gimo family, we gave you the chance. This is it.

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01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.159
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing else here, Like what else, What other rabbit

1347
01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:25.640
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna pull out of the hat that's gonna

1348
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:28.920
<v Speaker 1>be able to generate buzz and whatever that's gonna get

1349
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:32.079
<v Speaker 1>people to want to buy your game? Right now, Usawking

1350
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:32.600
<v Speaker 1>comes out.

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01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:39.479
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, it's like it's like anti enthusiasm exactly.

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01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I am not enthused about this at all.

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01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:47.279
<v Speaker 1>It's like assassage Creed has assassage Creed energy, And I mean,

1354
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna play it or whatever. There's people that are

1355
01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:51.840
<v Speaker 1>excited about it, these people that have already played it.

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01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:54.560
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it's a good gonna be a good game.

1357
01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:58.079
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, is this gonna move the needle for

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01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys at all? You know, like, is this gonna

1359
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:05.000
<v Speaker 1>move the millions and millions of units that you need

1360
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 1>to justify the teaming to make other things more screed games?

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01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

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01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Again, it's it's like I said, it's it's always the

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01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:18.520
<v Speaker 2>same thing about giving people. People want what they want,

1364
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.439
<v Speaker 2>and you're supposed to develop to deliver what they want,

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01:16:22.039 --> 01:16:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that you're like gonna go like, no,

1366
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 2>we know what you want or we know better and

1367
01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:30.399
<v Speaker 2>say we deliver like a somewhat mediocre Star Wars game

1368
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:35.079
<v Speaker 2>with an unlikable main character, or like, uh, I don't know.

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01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:37.680
<v Speaker 2>People seem to like that Prince of Persia metro Vania thing.

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01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I think they're crazy, but like it didn't sell well

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01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and like their other crap this like last year didn't

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01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:46.960
<v Speaker 2>sell pecularly well either.

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01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:52.159
<v Speaker 1>They came with NFT Games, Mark two, yeah, and Extra Cliant.

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01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:55.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, great. Meanwhile, you know, like I said,

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01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:57.640
<v Speaker 2>like I said, in the past, like people have been

1376
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.279
<v Speaker 2>begging for more spinter Self for the that decade and

1377
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:06.760
<v Speaker 2>get Extrafiant canceled. Division play Thing and that's it.

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01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Division Video play Thing canceled.

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01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Also well yeah, Heartline.

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01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, okay, we got six Siege, we got

1381
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:19.880
<v Speaker 1>your other live service stuff that's still hanging around. Uh.

1382
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:24.520
<v Speaker 1>And then Assassin's Creed and whenever it is that you

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01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:27.920
<v Speaker 1>they honestly they better come out with US Winters game

1384
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:32.159
<v Speaker 1>because they need something that's not Assassin's Creed, something that's

1385
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:35.359
<v Speaker 1>not that, like you literally can be Assassin's.

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01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Creed sat like Tom Clancey's Assassin's Creed.

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01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's like, okay they have they've basically run

1388
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:45.359
<v Speaker 1>far cried down.

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01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:47.800
<v Speaker 1>One where nobody cares about that.

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01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Is also in the Crapper yeas anymore.

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01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Watch Dogs they've done okay, Like those movie games have

1393
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:02.640
<v Speaker 1>been okay. It's just they're just okay. That's the problem.

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01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that Avatar thing, like I know, Kyle liked it,

1395
01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:09.840
<v Speaker 2>and I like, okay, but like exactly, you know, fine,

1396
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:10.479
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

1397
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 1>And then Stolen Bones was terrible. It's like right, so

1398
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:17.479
<v Speaker 1>and what like literally all they have right now is

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01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:18.479
<v Speaker 1>Sassage Creete Shaddos.

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01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:22.520
<v Speaker 2>There was like a giant bomb community vote. I'mlike, which

1401
01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:25.800
<v Speaker 2>is the biggest biggest would be soft disaster this year

1402
01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and there was like eight different, eight different things for it. Wow, Okay,

1403
01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Like it's.

1404
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Like basically we're just literally you'd be soft living in

1405
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:38.319
<v Speaker 1>perpetual hell the entire twenty twenty four and then twenty

1406
01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:40.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty five has not started out better because they've delayed

1407
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Sassage Creed again, which is probably better for them. Marsh

1408
01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:47.159
<v Speaker 1>twentieth is a much better date than February, but still

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01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:50.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like it feels like we're just delaying the inevitable

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01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:53.800
<v Speaker 1>until we get to Okay, as Sassage cree shadows, it's

1411
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:59.039
<v Speaker 1>just fine. Uh and then what you know, it's like, oh, okay,

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01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:01.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe that Raymann remake is going to be.

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01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, I looked it up. Yeah, since you

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01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:07.119
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned it. We talked about last week about the

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01:19:07.239 --> 01:19:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Tokyo tragedy. Uh, this happened in nineteen ninety five, the

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01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:16.039
<v Speaker 2>staring gas attack in the subway. Yeah that that was

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01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the twentieth And it's like, yeah, they want to tell

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01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:19.600
<v Speaker 2>you this one day.

1419
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

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01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Nobody thought about it either or move it up a day, Like,

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01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't think a day's gonna matter either way exactly.

1422
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:33.439
<v Speaker 2>It's you may not want to do this this specific day,

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01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:35.560
<v Speaker 2>but you know.

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01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Let's see me. So yeah, I don't always think about

1425
01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:42.239
<v Speaker 1>these things, but look, man, this is going to keep

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01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:45.920
<v Speaker 1>being a thing until I feel like Tencent just says, Okay,

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01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:49.439
<v Speaker 1>we're buying it, right, and that's it, and we're just

1428
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 1>going to keep living in this perpetual thing. We just

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01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:56.199
<v Speaker 1>talked about usoft in this way and that that's it.

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01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:01.439
<v Speaker 1>So speaking of another company that that lost that went

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01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:10.840
<v Speaker 1>through layoffs, Godfall developer also suffered layoffs Counterplay Games. They've

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01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:15.199
<v Speaker 1>been working with Netty's at Jackalyptic Games on a game

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01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and it seems like that wasn't going too well, so

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01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:23.399
<v Speaker 1>they have had to cut staff again. Just this has

1435
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:25.640
<v Speaker 1>been a continuing thing for the past like two years

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01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and sucks to see them doing this. Godfault wasn't that

1437
01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:34.439
<v Speaker 1>great either, Lotch game for the PS five. We knew

1438
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:38.119
<v Speaker 1>where that went. So let's get on with the actual

1439
01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:41.319
<v Speaker 1>games we've been playing here. You can't talk about one

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01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of them.

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01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, I'll talk about that next week.

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01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Is there any that you can talk about Marvel Hero

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01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:50.439
<v Speaker 1>all right.

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01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.319
<v Speaker 2>A damn near ten years it's a eleven year old

1445
01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:02.000
<v Speaker 2>action rpg. Yeah, people have not working again on PC,

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01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:08.479
<v Speaker 2>like because after this like surprisingly not bootsy ass server emulator.

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01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Ah and yeah, you just like can like run the

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01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.960
<v Speaker 2>server emulator, like run the game and it worked. Uh

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01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:19.039
<v Speaker 2>it und percent working correctly, but it works well enough.

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01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Like when I played it, like I was Cyclops and

1451
01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:25.520
<v Speaker 2>like I was facing I think this living laser boss

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01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.760
<v Speaker 2>guy and my CAF hits out land on him, wouldn't

1453
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:32.079
<v Speaker 2>actually like connect or like it wouldn't register damage, but

1454
01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:36.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I eventually got him down, and I still

1455
01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:38.520
<v Speaker 2>like that game a whole lot. You know it for

1456
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:41.079
<v Speaker 2>like a Diablo clone, it holds up and there's a

1457
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:42.600
<v Speaker 2>whole ton of content in there.

1458
01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Doing as well. You know, you're probably doing as well

1459
01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:48.439
<v Speaker 1>as Diablos.

1460
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, And it's funny. Could you can you can run

1461
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a sub server yourself, like basically like a single player server,

1462
01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:58.640
<v Speaker 2>but there actually is like an online server that people

1463
01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:01.279
<v Speaker 2>are like running, like you know, because that was kind

1464
01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:02.680
<v Speaker 2>of like a life service game and also back in

1465
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the day. Yeah, so yeah, you can like join other

1466
01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:08.479
<v Speaker 2>people if you want.

1467
01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:10.479
<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's great.

1468
01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Yep, what about you talking?

1469
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I've been trying out a few games here.

1470
01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:24.479
<v Speaker 1>If you're not familiar with, you know, the Crypt of

1471
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the Necro Dancers series. They have a game that's actually

1472
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:31.640
<v Speaker 1>coming out in a couple of weeks that they announced.

1473
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember exactly win, but it was like, it's

1474
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>like the next It's funny because it feels like this

1475
01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:42.399
<v Speaker 1>game should have evolved from, like the series should have

1476
01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>evolved from Rifts of the Necro Dancer instead of the

1477
01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>other way around. But Christin the Necro Dancer has become

1478
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:50.640
<v Speaker 1>rift to the Netro Dancer, which is essentially like them

1479
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>taking Christal Necro Dancers game and turning into like what

1480
01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:56.720
<v Speaker 1>if we became Guitar Hero?

1481
01:22:57.399 --> 01:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, and you're you play it.

1482
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:01.680
<v Speaker 1>You can play of the controller, but you can also

1483
01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:04.039
<v Speaker 1>play it on keyboard. It's come up. It's gonna come

1484
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:06.880
<v Speaker 1>out first on PC in February fifth, and then it's

1485
01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:09.199
<v Speaker 1>gonna come later to Switch and then I'm assuming to

1486
01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the other consoles. Uh so it there's a demo out

1487
01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>there on Steam you can play. It's pretty fun. You

1488
01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:23.159
<v Speaker 1>just use the three D pad the left, up and right,

1489
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:27.399
<v Speaker 1>and that's your whole playing field and then you're basically

1490
01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just you know, doing matching the beats like you would

1491
01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>in the credit of the Necroad answer, but you know,

1492
01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Guitar Hero style where you're matching it

1493
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom the field. So I brought back vibes

1494
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:42.479
<v Speaker 1>for me as far as you know, playing rock band,

1495
01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Guitar Hero whatever, because I've the dongle broke for me,

1496
01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>So I cannot play rock Yeah, that I cannot play

1497
01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>rock band at all. I'd have to go buy one

1498
01:23:54.640 --> 01:24:01.199
<v Speaker 1>of those new controllers. Yeah, yeah, basically you cannot buy

1499
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:05.760
<v Speaker 1>it unless you buy it on eBay, which sucks. Well,

1500
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the drums anymore, so essentially we just

1501
01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:10.399
<v Speaker 1>need to play the guitars. So that's how if I

1502
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:14.640
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to, I could buy one of the new guitars,

1503
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:18.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, the new one that they came out with,

1504
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:20.119
<v Speaker 1>But it's.

1505
01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Just with Fortnite or like their rock band thing and that.

1506
01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's what's funny too, Like that still doesn't really

1507
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:36.479
<v Speaker 1>work with that either. But you know what's this game

1508
01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:39.279
<v Speaker 1>is actually like really good. So you're playing a Cadence,

1509
01:24:39.359 --> 01:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>the same cadence as the Kings of hydro On or

1510
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the other games, but you know, it has this in it,

1511
01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and it has bosses and stuff like that too, which

1512
01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of seen on the screen if you're watching

1513
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:55.199
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube. It's actually pretty hard the way that they

1514
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>have the different characters show up on the screen and

1515
01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:00.239
<v Speaker 1>move around and stuff. So it took me a bit

1516
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to get good at it. But it's looks like it's

1517
01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be short and fun and I'm looking forward to

1518
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>hopefully and maybe reviewing it when it comes out here

1519
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>in a couple of weeks. Another game that's coming out

1520
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:16.079
<v Speaker 1>March twenty seventh also got a demo the same day

1521
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:21.159
<v Speaker 1>as the Switch reveal, which is first Berserker was on

1522
01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>This is a Soul's like, so if you're into those,

1523
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:34.279
<v Speaker 1>well this this one's actually like, you know, working.

1524
01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:35.479
<v Speaker 2>For me so far.

1525
01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I got all the way up to the first boss

1526
01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and like got to like I got into like three

1527
01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>fourced health and then he killed me the last time,

1528
01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:49.279
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, Okay, I'm kind of done here.

1529
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's I'm actually like really been enjoying it. It's

1530
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:56.479
<v Speaker 1>it has like the self if you haven't seen the

1531
01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>trailer that they think they showed it the the g

1532
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the vgas or whatever. It has like this kind of

1533
01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>cool like fel shad y look, so let's think it

1534
01:26:05.720 --> 01:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>could be from the anime. From an anime. But then

1535
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>also it's like not totally full of realistic either, but

1536
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it looks good when it's running, like because you're you're

1537
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:18.079
<v Speaker 1>seeing the back of his arm the whole time while

1538
01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you're running. It. It has all of the typical souls

1539
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>like trinkets. You can always save it the one thing

1540
01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that's there, and then if you die, you have to

1541
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>go through the entire set of enemies again until you

1542
01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>get to the part where you were you have to

1543
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:37.319
<v Speaker 1>get your little soul back or whatever. When you before

1544
01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>you can get all of your your upgrades and all

1545
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:44.319
<v Speaker 1>that that you had. But I like his skill set.

1546
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's very simple. It's you know, just the axe

1547
01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>and the sword, and then you can also have the

1548
01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>different strikes and stuff. And I like the so far

1549
01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it's just the one setting where he's in a like

1550
01:26:57.079 --> 01:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>snow ish level and he's in the inside of it

1551
01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and then you go outside you see the snow stuff

1552
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>like that. So it seems that the demo's pretty pretty lengthy,

1553
01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>is pretty gory as you see in the little trailer there.

1554
01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Uh and yeah, it's fun. I even have like these

1555
01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>there's these like soldiers that you fight at the beginning

1556
01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:20.479
<v Speaker 1>and then eventually you get to like these bigger like monsters.

1557
01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:23.640
<v Speaker 1>And I actually got the soldier to fight with me,

1558
01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:26.439
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't kill the soldier, and the soldiers started

1559
01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:31.239
<v Speaker 1>killing the uh the big monster for me, which was weird,

1560
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>but it's good because they let me get to where

1561
01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you actually get to the boss. It's just like this

1562
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>big yetty looking thing. So yeah, I mean I would

1563
01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>tell y'all to check it out. It's if you like

1564
01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>souls like this is right up the like more of

1565
01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a gory souls like of those, so I would check

1566
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it out for sure if you like those. And Dinostaurur's

1567
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>origins also pretty good. I've been playing the demo for

1568
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:03.319
<v Speaker 1>that too. Yeah, I have not beat I did not

1569
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>beat lou Boo. He's pretty tough. But the game is

1570
01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>is actually pretty good. Like I don't know that I

1571
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>would go buy it right now, but maybe on a

1572
01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:21.439
<v Speaker 1>sale or something. Definitely think about it. So the critics

1573
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:24.319
<v Speaker 1>are are loving it too. It has some pretty good,

1574
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty good scores, so if you're a dynasty Warriors fandom

1575
01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and waiting maybe this is the one to check out

1576
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>for sure, And also been playing Tales of Iron, which

1577
01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>is like a like an indie game that's also souls

1578
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:42.119
<v Speaker 1>like that is where he plays a rat as two

1579
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>D but this one actually has the like where it

1580
01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:49.119
<v Speaker 1>tells you, oh, the red is to Dodds, so you know,

1581
01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:51.119
<v Speaker 1>you can dodge out the way, or the yellow is

1582
01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to like where you have the parry you can prry

1583
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:56.159
<v Speaker 1>out of the way. So so far it's been pretty

1584
01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>good for me to get through. I've been enjoying it.

1585
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Like the story with the rat and the guy you control,

1586
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you're like one of the sons of the king that

1587
01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>something happens to him and you have to eventually like

1588
01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.039
<v Speaker 1>take over and you know, just show that you were

1589
01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:14.319
<v Speaker 1>going to be the next king or whatnot. They have

1590
01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a new second game coming out on the twenty eighth

1591
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:21.199
<v Speaker 1>of January also, so I've been playing that to get

1592
01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>ready to I might possibly be reviewing the second game

1593
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:28.079
<v Speaker 1>called Whiskers of Winter, so there is there is some

1594
01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Game of Thrones tinge to this as well. So but yeah,

1595
01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I've been enjoying playing all those. Definitely a lot to

1596
01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:40.239
<v Speaker 1>go through. That's I got that off of I didn't

1597
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:43.079
<v Speaker 1>know I had it on PS plus a couple of

1598
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>months ago. I think it showed up on there and

1599
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>not not the one where you it's like one of

1600
01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the essential games. I didn't know it was part of that,

1601
01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, you already owned this. I

1602
01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, cool, I did not know that I

1603
01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>owned it, So pretty sweet. But yeah, lots have been

1604
01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>playing recently. So yeah, So I wait for my first

1605
01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>game of twenty twenty five, which is going to be

1606
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>either one of those, and then I think, I I

1607
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>think I really don't have like a big game I'm

1608
01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>interested in until part Yackeys.

1609
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Though, right, which is but there's February, yeah.

1610
01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Middle of February, but there's the Jordan's doing it for

1611
01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Out of Haven. So I'm probably gonna just buy it

1612
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure you will end up getting the.

1613
01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>So if if that happens, I mean, you have actually

1614
01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:30.479
<v Speaker 2>got you can.

1615
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Always show up on Xbox and then I'm I'm the

1616
01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>one to because that's been our luck. Sometimes you really

1617
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:39.239
<v Speaker 1>want it and then they're like, oh, well the COVID

1618
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>got his Xbox, right, But we'll see Mark is playing

1619
01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:50.399
<v Speaker 1>a certain fantasy game that he'll talk about next week.

1620
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Apparently the embargo is on the twenty third itself, so

1621
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. But all right, let's look at I guess

1622
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>games that are coming for this week here. I already

1623
01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:09.359
<v Speaker 1>mentioned one of them, but if often he's having rebirth.

1624
01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>The PC versions coming on the twenty third, Mika and

1625
01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the Witch's Mountain, which looks the decens coming on the

1626
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty second as well, the end of Magnolia Bloom in

1627
01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:27.079
<v Speaker 1>the Mist that's the sequel to Enderlelease that you kind

1628
01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of like, I don't like it all, so that's coming.

1629
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:37.199
<v Speaker 1>The Lonely Mountain snow Riders is apparently a skiing against

1630
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>in to come to Game Pass tomorrow, so y'all can

1631
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:45.319
<v Speaker 1>check that out. If you want. The Jedi Power Battles

1632
01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Episode one, it's coming to Everything on the twenty third.

1633
01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:55.439
<v Speaker 1>You can go play that that remaster if you want. Sensuality.

1634
01:31:55.520 --> 01:31:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Echo of Ada is the next like Van dy Namco

1635
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>thing that's coming this series X and p S five

1636
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and PC, which is like you play as a like

1637
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>little mech that you go around and kill things and

1638
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>apparently has survival stuff in it that's worth checking out.

1639
01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And then next week. There's some lots of games coming,

1640
01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:23.039
<v Speaker 1>so we'll talk about that when we get to next week.

1641
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:27.039
<v Speaker 1>But all right, so some things look forward to for

1642
01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:32.479
<v Speaker 1>this week. Until then, We'll see you later, everybody, Buddy,
