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Everything's there. Want to welcome everyone back to the Peking

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Yona show, and in this case, it like is really

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like welcome back because Ron Dodson was just here and

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he's back. How are you doing wrong?

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Speaker 2: Well, all things considered, I'm doing okay.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: I wish we had not been as correct in our

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analysis on Friday as it ended up being. You know,

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sometimes it's good to be wrong. I wish we had been.

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Speaker 3: But it looks like.

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Speaker 2: Not only are we into this thing, but we're into

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the We bought bid off an awful lot, so it's

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time hopefully we can start chewing. As I mentioned to

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you pre show, I am a I'm an American, I'm

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an America first guy. But that means once we're into

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something I wanted to I don't want it to fail.

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Just to be right, I want the President to pull

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a rabbit out of the hat. I want when it's raining,

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lemons to make lemonade. And uh so I want to

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be positive, but it's it's that's a strain right now.

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How about you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing okay, I want I guess where I wanted

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to start was when we were texting on Friday and

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you seem to have information that this was this was

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not going to happen and then it happened.

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Speaker 2: What happened, as I understand it, the word came across

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that Israel was going to go whether we went or not,

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and they were going to use all means necessary if

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need be. And we could talk about what Rubio said yesterday,

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which completely jibs with this, but that the idea was, well,

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if we don't go, and Israel goes and it goes poorly,

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which it would. I mean, as we're seeing, this is

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not a small backward people. This is a nation of

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ninety million people, very capable. The Persians are, the Iranians are.

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These are bright capable folks and UH with a lot

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of they know they have this one game they can

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play and they play it very well, which is come

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after us. But we're going to hammer you. We have

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massive magazine depth and missiles, and they're taking the tack

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of which I think has surprised very many. And there's

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good and bad to this from their perspective, but they've

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they've taken the tack to attack UH many Arab sites

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UH that that are partnering with the US and have

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partnered with the US. Some some have suggested that if

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they hadn't done that and aimed all their arsenal just

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at Israel or just at one spot, they would have

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caused a lot more damage. But to be honest, they're

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causing they're they're they're they're making some painful marks. As

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it is. We've had a couple of radar sites hit

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that are that are important to how we do things.

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out of commit you know, three tankers out of commission

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in the Persian Gulf. It's the tankers are basically unensurable

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now and you've cut off supply out of the out

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of the Persian Gulf through the Straight of Horn moves.

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don't see how it ends quickly. So that's you know,

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the minutia, but right now it's we seem to I

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think you're gonna see carpet bombing. And we are now

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incentivized to go B fifty two and B one, although

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B one SORTI rates are limited. That's a very high

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maintenance aircraft. But but you're going to have to go

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root out all the IRGC, all the you know, the

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the Imperial Guard, and that's tough. That's very very tough.

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Republican Guard, not Imperial Guard. This isn't Rome, but the

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Iranian Republican Guard troops are are dispersed. Now, I did

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see that that Israel hit they were voting on a

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succession plan and they had a bunch of the folks

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gathered together and evidently this this just a little while back.

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of the problem is is Trump I, from what I understand,

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thought that okay, we're going to decapitate, We're going to

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take takeout Commande, which I think was performed by the Israelis,

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and there would be an opposition leader ready to step in.

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most of the most of the alternate leaders have been

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seems to be a little bit of a little bit

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of cross current as to purpose and goals in this

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mission with regards to the US and Israel. And you know,

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I'll be perfectly honest, everything I've seen points to Israel

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doing whatever the heck they want to do, and just

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expecting us to clean up the mess. And Rubio spoke

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to that yesterday a little bit, and I really, you know,

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whatever your views on Israel or Zionism, that should really

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upset you as an American. It should it should be

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a visceral reaction if if that reporting is true. And

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I think we can trust the Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's a couple of things there, But let

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me start with this. You you seem to intimate that

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there is an underestimation there and is this Is this

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just the highest levels because you and I know that

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Iran is not this. Yeah, Iran is not a rack

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where you just roll in and you kill a bunch

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of you know, you take over town, take over cities,

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you kill people.

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Speaker 4: You go.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's not That's not what this place is.

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So when do these people just not know anything? I mean,

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it's like, what the hell's going what the hell's going

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on here?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's in remembered, Hey, pharaohs, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I am?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I think I'll just answer this question

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real quick from Pete and then we get you involved

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in the in the last fifty tem to twenty years

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with the officers that have progressed up the chain to

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general admiral. There has been. It has been a very

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corporatist environment. And what I mean by that is that

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you don't you don't progress, You don't get promoted by

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taking risks and having the occasional failure and learning and

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still but because of your raw talent and your ability

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to innovate, you're not You're not going to progress that way.

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So what you have now are an entire you know,

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and I think hag Seth wants to change this, but

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how are you going to do it. You're gonna just

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wipe out all your the entire group of generals and admirals.

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You can't really do that. Although the left, you know,

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Obama stale. So so what you have is you have

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an entire group. That is, it's like in a corporate

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board meeting where there's group thinking you can't go against well,

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of course we can do this. Let's of course we

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can do this. So I don't think it's necessarily underestimating Iran,

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although there is maybe a part of that. I think

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it's just the incentive. The incentives that currently work within

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the decision matrix of the US Armed Forces is to

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is to not stick your neck out and and say no,

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or maybe if we do something, it needs to be

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in consideration of the asymmetry that's obvious that this is

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going to go down, you know. Uh and there instead

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it's been just a massive build up, gumblow. You know,

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I know, I do know that Trump really did think

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that if we parked an armada off the Persian Gulf,

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that he thought the Iranians would be forced into an agreement.

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What I think really hamstrung his understanding is both wit

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Coff and Kushner, who were leading the negotiation, they're both Hey,

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from there, they are committed Zionist guys. They just are so.

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So there wasn't any sophisticated diplomacy from the sense of, hey,

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what does what can help Iran get what it wants?

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We we we and and Israel gets a little bit

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of what we want and we can get out of here.

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There wasn't that. There was just a and look, I

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don't mean to speak poorly of the President's son in

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law and wit Cough I think, you know, he may

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be a committed Zionist, but I think he's he loves

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his country. I'm not I'm not impugning the honor of

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these people. I just think they have a set of

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presuppositions that led to the Again, maybe not underestimated Iran,

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but having a skewed set of goals that weren't realistic.

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So maybe maybe that is underestimating. But he asked, ask

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Pharah's miss miss part of that question. I'd love to

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hear what he has to say about that.

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Speaker 1: I asked, do you is it clear that the people

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in charge, the people who make the plans, underestimate Iran's

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capabilities to fight because they they're just they have no

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knowledge of it. They are like we, the three of

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us know more about the Iranian people and the Iranian

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structure and the culture there than they do.

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Speaker 3: Uh. I think I think that Ron is absolutely right

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in the sense that the establishment no longer permits thinking,

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and that mainly comes from the long legacy of just

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needing to agree with the politicians. They're not actually in

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challenging wars in the sense that would be existential. Not

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to say that Iraq or Afghanistan weren't challenging for American soldiers,

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but to say that the quality of troops that were

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on the other side, that were the enemy in Iraq

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and Afghanistan were not particular challenges to a highly equipped,

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technologically capable American military. So the normal process where you

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would learn from the enemy, you would respect the enemy

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just didn't exist, not in the same way. And it

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existed to the extent that it existed, it existed in

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the counterinsurgency context, not in the context of your fighting

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another state. So that means you don't think about the

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other side as seriously. Now when it comes to the plan,

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what is the plan? And as far as I can tell,

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to the extent that it exists, it is the Americans

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will pound Iran for as long as needed until Iran breaks,

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and they will kill enough of the leadership for them

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to change their minds. That's what hexth means by we

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need more lethality, and the understanding of it is, well,

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if we just kill enough of them and destroy enough

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of the country, we win. But that precisely doesn't take

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account of the asymmetric response that the arraigns have been

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Speaker 2: That's right, and Farris, what is that? Here's what's Here's

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what scares me because I think you're exactly right, But

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whose playbook is that? What does that sound like? That

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sounds like, that sounds like Israel and Gazi Gaza is

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what that sounds That's the Israeli That's not the American playbook.

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Nowhere in there is an Augustinian just war action. Nowhere

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in there is the game theory of how do we

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road in the last half of World War two where

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instead of you know, the history of continental of European

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civilizational warfare was that eventually you get to a point

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where somebody has an advantage and you have a negotiated piece, right,

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and everybody gets a little something, and we rearrange the pieces.

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But but we understood that the look Iran is not

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an existential threat to the United States. Are they a

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pain in the backside? Absolutely? Do they sponsor some things

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we don't like? Do they make some of our so

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called friends unhappy and uneasy? Absolutely? That With that in mind,

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that looks very different than an existential war. So you

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some point in this talk if we can get to

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Middle East balance of power, you know, dominoes and so

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getting to a tipping point where things could look really ugly,

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really fast if we turn the Arab coalition against us.

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there's no is is you bomb and kill if it's

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an existential threat, and its total war. And that's the

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vast exception to the rule. And yet that's the that's

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the Israeli versus Gosa model that so many of us

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find upsetting at least, if not, if not vastly immoral.

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Speaker 3: That's the way every Israeli war has been fought. The

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nineteen forty eight war was based on the Israelis massacring

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bunches of Palestinian civilians in order to get them to

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leave the country. Sixty seven war was state on state,

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seventy three war was state on state fair enough, and

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then the Lebanon Wars began on wars where all nineteen

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ninety three and nineteen ninety six, the official Israeli objective

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was to depopulate South Lebanon, that would be no Hesbalda,

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And they tried that again in two thousand and six,

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and now they're doing the same thing again in South Lebanon,

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and I think one Israeli official, it might have been Natanyaho,

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actually came out and said that they're going to try

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to apply the Dahi doctrine to Taharran. The Dahi doctrine

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is basically, we will flatten your urban areas in their

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entirety until we get a ceasefire. And so this is

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a fundamentally not Christian way of doing things, very pagan

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way of doing things, where basically you just see the

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population itself as the problem and you try to destroy

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the population in order to win. Now there is a

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pathway to the Americans getting some of what they want,

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which is to eliminate enough of the leadership that the

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next generation of the IRGC thing over and they transitioned

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it into a nationalist country. But in the last couple

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of times we spoke, what I said was that this

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transition was already underway and that the Iranians were having

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to appeal to nationalism on the back of the defeat

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of Hesbalda and on the back of the Twelve Day War,

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and we're looking at ways in order to relax some

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social rules because they realized that being a full on

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theocracy wasn't really working anymore. And Jemene he was eighty

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seven or he was going to be eighty seven in April,

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and so this transition would have happened under his successor

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in a few years time. So the main requirement for

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an Augustinian just war would be that it is absolutely

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necessary and there is no other alternative. There was another alternative. Now,

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some people in the administration Trump, for example, saying that

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they were going to get nuclear weapons. Well, Ted Cruise

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came out and said that no, they weren't. Ted Cruisive

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old people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I've I've done that whole deal.

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I don't know if I've done it with Pete. But

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we can go down. We can go down the list

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of steps it takes from going from a middle not

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high enrichment, I mean high in I guess in percentage terms,

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but nowhere near the level of enrichment to get to

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weapons grade. But going from a high enrichment to all

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the steps that it takes to a deliverable and hardened

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and miniaturized implosion device that you can put on a missile.

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There are about a million steps. They all need testing.

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They start in a very crude way. We would know

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if they had detonated a device, even if it was

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deep underground. And I am I am shocked at the

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well I shouldn't be shocked because these are technical things

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that the average person doesn't know about. And you hear

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nuclear weapons and everybody just gets scared. But there is

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no way they were near any kind of deliverable anything.

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And I mean normally you start with a shotgun device, uh,

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and you test that just so you can understand uh,

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you know, you can understand uh, rapid criticality and these

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kind of things and and but but making a working

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implosion device and the triggers that are that are needed,

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just asking that. Now, you who who helped smuggle uh,

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you know, the switches back back in the day, the

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kiton how do.

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Speaker 3: You say it?

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Speaker 2: Kryton switches. But that's a very technical thing. And you

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and I uh might be pretty bright guys, or at

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least you, but we're not gonna go Even if we

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we had a pile of uranium or plutonium laying around,

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we weren't we would we couldn't go build an implosion device,

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so so so anyway, that kind of I kind of

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get insulted. But by that whole well, they're weeks away,

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weeks away from what building a shotgun device? Okay, so

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do they have fifty sixty pounds of of highly enriched

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two thirty was it two thirty nine? So anyway, I'm

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really that really insults my intelligence. But I understand. I

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guess why they do it.

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Speaker 3: And they've been saying the same thing for twenty five

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years now, right, they've been saying the same exact thing

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for twenty five years, that ta and is this far

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from producing a nuclear device? It's two weeks away, it's

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five years away, it's one month away, et cetera, et cetera.

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And it's just not credible. I mean, the IEA Raphael

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Grossi came out and said that no, that's not true.

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There was no indication that they were going to build

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a nuclear weapon. The actual issue was the ballistic missiles,

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because the punishment that the Israelis received in the Twelve

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Day War made them realize that the ballistic missiles themselves

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could be an existential threat. Because Israel has four ports,

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three civilian airports, maybe a dozen big power stations and

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a dozen air bases all in enough.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget their d CEL plant that got hit, and.

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Speaker 3: A desalination plant, and so it's incredibly vulnerable to ballistic

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missiles because if you wreck enough of their infrastructure, they

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that's it. The country becomes uninhabitable. If the chemical plants

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around Haifa are blown up and enough of a reaction

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is triggered, that creates a chemical's cloud over the second

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city in Israel, and that makes the city uninhabitable. So

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they're genuinely vulnerable to this. But the Iranians were not

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on the brink of launching another war against Israel. They

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were in the middle of their own various domestic concerns,

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from the protests to the Israelian filtration to all kinds

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of things. So there was nothing that made the timing

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of this war necessary. And the argument that Rubio gave that, well,

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the Israelis were going to strike, and that meant that

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American bases were going to be attacked. Well, first of all,

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Israel is a proxy, it's financed by the United States,

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it's armed by the United States, and American decision makers

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should be able to say no to the Israelis, you're

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not allowed to do this, and exactly and the only

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reason it isn't happening is because half of the Trump

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administration are graduates of the Epstein Rothschild network and the

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filth that that is involved in that Rubio is funded

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by Ellison and Vance is funded by Teal, And so

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what you see is that it's the lobby that forced this.

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And you see the Democrats are not doing anything to

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try to say, well, you've exceeded the powers of Congress

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and you've went to war without authorization, and they're not

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challenging the narrative that actually there was no eminent threat

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because there wasn't an eminent threat. So this is fundamentally

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in Israeli war. When it comes to the strategy, I mean,

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they're there is a pathway to victory, which is that

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you do eliminate enough of the leadership and destroy enough

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of Iranian industry, and then you make some kind of

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ceasefire and you say we've sold the Iran problem, and

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then the transition that was going to happen maybe keeps happening.

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But trying to stop Hothy missiles failed. The United States

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sent two aircraft carriers to stop the Hothy, and they

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bombed Yemen for forty five days. The area of Yemen

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that the Hothy control it is maybe one twentieth the

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size of Iran. I haven't checked, but just sort of

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eyeballing it off a map.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like greater metropolitan Terroran, you know, like the

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pop you know, once Tehran starts thinning out. It's about

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like that. It's not much bigger than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And unlike the Hothy, the Iranians have an open

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supply line to China and Russia through the Caspian Sea

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m H because one of the terminuses of the Belton

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Road ends in Kazarkastan on the Caspian Sea, and trade

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between Russia and Iran uh with Iranian ships going up

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the Volga into the Sea of Azov and into the

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Black Sea already exists. So that supply chain already exists.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of canals, but it is. It is

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a common passage exactly. I don't know, dude. Do many

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people know that that you can get from the Black

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Sea all the way to the Caspian through the through

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the the the canal system of the Volga. It's pretty

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interesting if you go and trade that on a map.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible, it is incredible. But that mean but

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that means that the Iranians have have viable supply chains

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leading to the north of tran mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have no we have no interdictory capacity on

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the Caspian, either by air or by you know. Uh,

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so that's a uh. People need to spend more time

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with their globe or Google Earth exactly. It'll it'll bless you.

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Speaker 1: One thing, one thing I wanted to Paris. You mentioned

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you called the Israel approxy of the United States. But

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you know, you also mentioned that Trump's cabinet is littered

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with Trump's administration is littered with all these epstream creators.

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I mean, I hear people making the argument that the

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United States controls Israel. But sure, okay, I'll accept that

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if you understand that the diaspora controls the United States.

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And if the diaspora controls the United States, then we're

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captured either way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got Alison and control of CBS, You've

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got Murder and control of Fox News. That's the media

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for you. Left. Then right, you've got APEC paying ninety

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four percent of members of Congress, that's your elected representatives.

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You've got the administration full of these quitters, and you've

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got the National Security Council head who was also the

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Secretary of State, having been vetted by Ellison or vetted

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by an Israeli ambassador and Ellison and then Ellison invests

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money in him and in his presidential run and that's

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how he sort of rises. And you've got Jdvans, who

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used to write for David Frum and now he and

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then he got funded by Peter Thiel and now he's

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the Vice president. So essentially, this extended diaspora influences every

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single piece of decision making that this administration is taking.

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And you can't say that this is you know, true sovereignty,

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because what you actually have is an oligarchy that hides

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behind elected representatives. And the elected representatives are absolutely shameless,

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as are the political appointees. They're absolutely shameless. They will

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in the end serve their donors. And to have Trump

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in the Knesset say that it was Abelson money that

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made him move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem

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and made him recognize the Golan Heights as part of

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Israel kind of, you know, that's just icing on the cake.

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But it's getting to a stage where people see that

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this is what's happening. And so if the plan, which

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is just to kill as many people as it takes

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and destroy as much infrastructure and productive capability as it takes, fails,

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because the Chinese and the Russians keep on backing the

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IRGC and enabling it to fire missiles into an environment

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where interceptor missiles are dwindling, that becomes a major problem.

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I don't know how it's going to play out, but

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I can see the IRGC deciding, you know what, We're

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going to keep firing for three months, and over those

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three months, we will destroy this much of Israeli infrastructure

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and this much of Tel Aviv. And you know that

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these radis are hiding the extent of damage they're taking.

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Speaker 2: They are they ran off that they ran off that

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Chinese the there was a Chinese news group in in

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Tel Aviv last night showing the showing the damage and

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they shut them down. That that was just last night. Yeah,

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one thing I wanted to mention you. You made a

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very persuasive argument about the lobby's financial uh the the

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lobby's financial uh arm twisting. It can do UH with

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so much of the American apparatus.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I think it goes at the closer you get in

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the the the more familial it comes it becomes. And

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what I mean by that is Jared Jared Kushner and

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you know Trump by all accounts, and I don't. I

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don't know the president. I I've I've never been around.

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And we back in the day shared a uh in

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my family business. We shared a lending team with Lehman brothers,

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and so I'd heard stories and everything. But but but

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his reputation is always he is he's very much typical

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uh New York. He it's it's if you're part of

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the family, he's he's very loyal. If you're not, you know,

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he can cut your legs out from under you. And

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Jared Kushner is who is not just Jewish, but very

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supportive of the whole Habad and the the more radical

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elements of the ultra ultra Orthodox. So uh, and that's

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a Judaism is not for most of your viewers. I'm sure,

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either Christian or or or or some form of Western

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uh deal. But but Judaism is not monolithic. It's it's

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got you know not and it's not just the three

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main factions. But over past Orthodox you get some you

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get some very different kind of elements, and Jared and

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Kushner's very tied into that. Furthermore, he's tied and these

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are elements that came out of Pale of settlement, uh,

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you know, ultra Orthodox kind of stuff. Anyway, Kushner's very

475
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tight with net Nyahu. When Net Yahoo comes to the

476
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United States, he stays with Kushner. Now, yep, so this

477
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,079
is for Trump. I think this is as much as

478
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:45,159
much as the lobby has the influence over the legislature

479
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,719
and so forth. I don't think Trump's bought. I really don't.

480
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I think he tries to be very independent in his

481
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,880
how he perceives things. But he's very loyal to his

482
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family and and I know from reports that I've heard

483
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:06,039
from people, I trust that he will get into shouting

484
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,719
arguments with net and Yahoo like he would be arguing

485
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,239
with a with a brother or a cousin, not the

486
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,960
way you would talk to the head of state of

487
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:21,079
what should be a satrappie or what should be a

488
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client state. And so I think that that's part of

489
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the issue. And I'm really trying not to I'm trying

490
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to understand the president. I'm not just trying to stand

491
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in judgment over him. We all have our failings, we

492
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all have our own presuppositions that we bring, and I

493
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think this is one way to understand part of the

494
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,320
disconnect of how how he can be preached such an

495
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,159
American first sermon and yet not be able to get

496
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,960
over the bar with this is it's beyond just money

497
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:03,800
Terry's support from the Adolson's. I think this becomes almost

498
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,239
like a hey, look that's that's the uncle who always

499
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,800
comes to the family reunion and he paid paid my

500
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way through college. And we're going to argue, but but

501
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but I'm not going to disown him. I'm not going

502
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to kick him out of the family reunion. There's a

503
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bit of that dynamic at play here that is critical,

504
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I think to understanding how we got where we are.

505
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Does that make any sense to either one of you guys.

506
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Speaker 1: Ferris, I'll let you go on in a second. I'll let

507
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you go in a second. Just let me say, we

508
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all do have our failings, but we're not the president.

509
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Speaker 2: Of the I'm just trying to understand, Pete. I'm just

510
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trying to understand the guy. You're exactly right, obviously.

511
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

512
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And the fact that he is running it as

513
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a family affair with someone whose loyalty is to a

514
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different family is the fundamental problem.

515
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Speaker 2: Yes, well that's kind of where I was wanting to go. Yeah, Yeah,

516
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that'scause where I was wanting to get to.

517
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: How About they're not just uh Jewish, which in and

518
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of itself, you know, I'll take it as a neutral thing.

519
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,840
How about are insane Jewish supremacists who believe that other

520
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people don't have a soul or only have an animal soul,

521
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and therefore believe that everybody else is by definition less

522
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than them mm hm. And they are a very closed,

523
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:43,199
tight knit group in one sense, they're quite open in another.

524
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But you know, I think it was one of their

525
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synagogues that ended up with the false walls and with

526
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the mattresses and with the.

527
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Speaker 1: Word that's like their world headquarters, that's where.

528
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Speaker 2: In Brooklyn.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that comes with a whole massive set

530
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of baggage that is quite different from you know, some

531
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:18,440
kind of liberal reform ton who can be a very

532
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:24,440
bleeding heart liberal at that. So there is this difference,

533
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:31,360
and Jared is going to put that loyalty before everything else.

534
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,639
And remember Trump said that Jared wasn't going to be

535
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:38,719
in the administration. Then a few minutes later you find

536
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that not only he's in the administration, he's negotiating Russia

537
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,280
and Ukraine and helping Black Rock get into Ukraine and

538
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:52,039
profit from it. He's negotiating Gaza and helping Allison build

539
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:56,440
a total surveyance state in Gaza in partnership with Tony Blair.

540
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And he's negotiated the nuclear file, which is an incredibly

541
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technical question that has all kinds of details that he's

542
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,840
he's probably much smarter than I am, but he's just

543
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not qualified for it. And he is going to put

544
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his family loyalty to Nataniello above negotiating with Iran in

545
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good faith. That's the actual issue. And he doesn't even

546
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have an official role in the administration. He just travels

547
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with with Whitcoff. Whitcoff has some kind of title as

548
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Presidential envoy, but Jared, as far as I know, doesn't.

549
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And so when you delegate the negotiation to that kind

550
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of person, it isn't going to be the standard state

551
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to state negotiation where you have a political agreement and

552
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then you get to the technical details and then the

553
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:04,920
technical teams report up, and then a decision is made

554
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:14,239
that Shane is intercepted, if you will, by Kushner's family loyalty,

555
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because I think you remember that video of Natanie who

556
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:22,119
basically saying how he knew Jared Kushner, And can I

557
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:24,199
tell people that I knew you when you were a

558
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child because I was staying with your father and staying

559
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,639
at your house when I was visiting Da da da

560
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Da da da. And then lo and behold, Jared's father

561
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:38,440
becomes ambassador to France after having been gotten out and

562
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pardoned by Trump. So like it's incestuous in the wrong way,

563
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not that there's a right way to do it, but

564
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in a particularly wrong way.

565
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Speaker 1: Well, if you remember, Chris Christie talked about how he

566
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was being considered for VP and he got called in Kushner.

567
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Jared Kushner called him in to tell him forget about it.

568
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:12,880
That's not going to happen because of what you did

569
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to my father. This shouldn't this shouldn't have been handled legally.

570
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:19,440
We should have let the rabbis handle this. And it's like, no,

571
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:24,840
I'm sorry, that's not how this works. If I do

572
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something I don't I don't get to I mean, I

573
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can appeal to my priest, but he's probably gonna be like,

574
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you did the crime, You're going to do the time, buddy.

575
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You know, this is not this is not normal. And

576
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this is why I say that. You know, if if

577
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this doesn't, if this proves anything, we don't have a country.

578
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Because if we don't, if if the United States cannot

579
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put it's you know, we've basically lost California. California is

580
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:57,039
gone to some force that in New York is parts

581
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:01,199
of New York are the same way. There's other state, Minnesota.

582
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,599
Minneapolis is another country. There are cities in this in

583
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:10,800
this country that are lost to foreign powers. We're heading

584
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the way of Canada now.

585
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Speaker 3: And if we.

586
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Speaker 1: If we can't address that, if that's not on the

587
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if that's not a priority. But you know, a group

588
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of people who were seventy to eighty percent of Biden's cabinet,

589
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,519
I mean, this is we forget about this. You know,

590
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I wanted to bring this up. You know in Fox

591
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News has been saying twenty twenty six Iran is not

592
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,000
two thousand and three Iraq. And you know doctor field

593
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House who you know, Farris and I have done a

594
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show with said, well, they're right. What this looks and

595
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,159
what this can turn into rather quickly is nineteen ninety

596
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,679
two to two thousand and two Iraq, where you end

597
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,679
up with boots on the ground invasion at the end

598
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,719
of And let me just remind you that ninety two

599
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,840
to two thousand and two is three presidencies. It doesn't

600
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:16,800
matter who the president is. These people get what they want.

601
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Speaker 3: If you look at what the planning seems to be. Now,

602
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in case this becomes a long campaign, they had the

603
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So there's an ethnic group called the Baloshis who are

604
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split between Pakistan and Iran, and they've been demanding an

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independent state. And they are used by the US to

606
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disrupt the China Pakistan Economic Corridor, which terminates at Go

607
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out of their port. And they are used also against

608
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,960
the Iranians in the hope of disrupting Shahbahaport, which is

609
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supposed to link Iran to Aghanistan. Essentially, it's supposed to

610
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be the main trade route to to Afghanistan, replacing the

611
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Pakistan trade route uh And that's an Indian Iranian project

612
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:18,039
backed by the Russians. And naturally these guys are quite divided.

613
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Then a couple of months before the attack on Iran began,

614
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they unified under one group. You have also a bunch

615
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of Kurdish groups, five separate Kurdish groups that are fighting

616
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engage the Iranian state, and they they.

617
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Speaker 6: Got missled, well yeah, they got drone pretty badly, but

618
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they got unified.

619
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Speaker 3: Before the war began, with the idea being that they

620
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will become some kind of insurgent group. And you had

621
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the ISIS prisoners moved from Syria into Iraq, and if

622
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Iran becomes unstable, Iraq becomes unstable, and that means that

623
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they break out. So there are these three different insurgent

624
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,679
groups that are waiting to attack Iran. But if you

625
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,159
go back to what happened after the first war against

626
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:29,199
Saddam nineteen ninety one, what happened then was that the

627
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Americans helped the Kurds break off their own region and

628
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:38,719
set up essentially and expanded region for the Kurds, and

629
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,119
they imposed the Northern fly the Northern no fly zone,

630
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,880
and the Southern no fly Zone on Iraq. And then

631
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,280
Clinton bombed the Iraqis in nineteen ninety eight and Bush

632
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:53,559
invaded in two thousand and three, So you could easily

633
00:45:53,599 --> 00:46:01,039
see this happening again. They cripple Iran, they help these

634
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:06,039
ethnic groups set up their own little enclaves, and then

635
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:10,440
they keep it in stasis. The problem is that this

636
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:15,119
worked on Iraq because Syria was hostile and Iran was hostile,

637
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:22,239
and Jordan is a American protectorate. It doesn't exist except

638
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,039
to act as a buffer state between Israel and the

639
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,559
rest of them. At least Idan is not like that.

640
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:35,360
It's linked all the way into Central Asia and through

641
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,280
the Caspian it's linked to Russia, and through the Caucuses

642
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,800
is linked to Russia. And the Turks have a feeling

643
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,840
that they're next.

644
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 7: They well, the foreign minister wasn't the foreign minister, but

645
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:52,199
one of the Israeli officials came out and said as

646
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much that they're they're they're next up.

647
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Speaker 2: And that that's why I wanted to talk about the

648
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:04,920
whole balance of power issue, is that a strong, a strong,

649
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,519
a functional Iran served many purposes in that whole Middle

650
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East milieu. Because this they they kept Turkey occupied for

651
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,639
lack of a better term, and the and they also

652
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:33,360
wore a check against Israel for the Arab coalition that

653
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:37,599
hosts Our Power Project. You know, the US power projection,

654
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:43,320
the NATO power projection, and it was it was a

655
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:47,199
you know, a system not without its flaws, but it

656
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:54,039
was somewhat steady state. And uh, you know, I don't

657
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:57,400
want to be all conspiracy theory about the whole you know,

658
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,239
digital currency. Seven nations that didn't want didn't play ball,

659
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,039
and one by one they're being taken down and so

660
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:09,519
on and so forth. But heck, maybe there's something to that.

661
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,000
May maybe maybe there is something to that. I don't

662
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,039
I don't know. I don't want to think that. I'd

663
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:16,199
like to think that our.

664
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm willing to.

665
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Speaker 2: Start thinking about all options at this point because this

666
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doesn't in a in a true strategic geopolitical sense. All

667
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:37,119
this is doing is driving. Even if you balkanize Iran

668
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,519
and just drive it into into a state of Libya

669
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,760
or Syria, which is where this is headed right now,

670
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:50,280
you still got all those resources that are going to

671
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,880
be aligned with someone, and and the easiest someone's are

672
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,519
Russia and China, and a united Eurasia is exactly what

673
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:05,679
the West shouldn't want. That that is the existential threat,

674
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not a functioning Iran, a united a really truly united

675
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,079
Eurasia with Iran, India, Russia and China, and then with

676
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:21,039
all the Southeast Asia satellites, which would be like little

677
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:25,519
chicks under the hen Uh. That is an existential threat

678
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,320
to the West, not this, and so I.

679
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Speaker 3: Agree with you. I mean, look, God put an Ocean

680
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,440
and the Himalayas around India for a reason. So I'm

681
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:38,639
less worried about that.

682
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Speaker 2: But a lot of people though, when you think, trust

683
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,320
me in orth Texas because they bleed over here.

684
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there are some things that I want to

685
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,800
say that I won't say about restricting air travel and

686
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:00,960
things of that nature. But but focusing on the topic

687
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at hand, Iran sits between Turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia,

688
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and it is important to have a strong Iran to

689
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keep each of these countries in check. Initially, the Americans

690
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,880
perfectly understood this, and this is why they kept the

691
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Shah around, and this is why they had this relationship

692
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with the Shah, because the shell of Iran, in a

693
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:31,079
strong position, could act as the policeman of the Gulf

694
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essentially and make sure that everybody in Opic and all

695
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of the Arab countries actually played ball and behaved themselves.

696
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And that worked if you break up Iran, Turkey expands

697
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:52,239
into northern Iraq and maybe into Iran itself. It gets

698
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,079
even closer to Azerbaijan, and it solves the fundamental problem

699
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:02,360
of the Turkish economy, which is energy. And that makes

700
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,920
Turkey into a great power even more than it is

701
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right now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, especially since yeah, it becomes a regional it becomes

703
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a super regional hegimen. It really does exactly. That's what

704
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we're staring.

705
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Speaker 3: At, and not just that because of Israeli an Imaraiti recklessness,

706
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the Saudis, the Pakistanis, and the Turks are drawing closer

707
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together because the imarati Is, acting on behalf of Israel,

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00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,960
essentially have ensured that Libya is in chaos and that

709
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Sudan is in chaos, and that's a huge problem for

710
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:47,119
the Egyptians. They try, the Imalitis try to take over

711
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:52,719
southern Yemen, and the Saudis panicked over it and kick

712
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,920
the Imeritis out of Yemen and probably threatened to actually

713
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:02,159
attack them. And then the Israelis tried to plant a

714
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,039
base in Somaliland, making the Saudis feel like they were

715
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:11,119
being surrounded by Israel, and so they've grown they and

716
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:15,199
after the Cutler strikes. The Saudis famously signed the defense

717
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,400
Treaty with Pakistan, giving themselves a nuclear umbrella, and now

718
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,000
they're cooperating more closely with Turkey. So the four main

719
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:28,920
Sunni powers in the region, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and

720
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:34,159
Pakistan are all drowing closer together because of Israelian recklessness.

721
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:41,039
And that's a behemoth like there's no American or Western

722
00:52:41,079 --> 00:52:50,079
power that can take them on. It's impossible. So Israeli recklessness,

723
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:58,519
like attacking it on isn't just bad because American treasure

724
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:02,320
and lives are being wasted, which is a bad thing.

725
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:07,920
It's bad because it's bringing, its strengthening the Suddenys, who

726
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,039
are eighty five percent of the Muslim population, who are

727
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:16,559
a much bigger problem than the Iranian Shia, and the

728
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:21,920
Iranian Shia being naturally sandwiched between these Sudney powers, will

729
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:27,480
always look to the West for alliance. If you look

730
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:33,199
at the track record of this under Clinton and the

731
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,800
Rafsanjani when he was president of Iran, he tried to

732
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,920
open up to the Americans and to the French, and

733
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,559
he tried to partner. He tried to partner with American

734
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:48,880
companies and then Clinton signs a bunch of sanctions saying

735
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,000
that no, you cannot do business with Iran, so he

736
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:58,880
partners with Total instead. When the Afghanistan invasion happened, I

737
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,639
think it was actually some Saimani who gave the Americans

738
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:08,599
the maps of where the Taliban exactly were deployed, and

739
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:12,599
that's what the Americans used to bomb Afghanistan under the

740
00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:17,559
Taliban in two thousand and one. But then what does

741
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:19,800
George Bush do. He declares them to be part of

742
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:27,800
the access of evil. So the policy, like the Iranians

743
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,119
have been trying to figure out a way where they

744
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,119
can get on with the United States and just focus

745
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:39,079
on helping the Shiah and strengthening the Shia and Lebanon

746
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:44,119
and in Iraq and wherever they could and throughout the Iraq.

747
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:46,960
In the years where the US was fully deployed in Iraq,

748
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:52,239
they worked with the Americans. They attacked the Americans endlessly,

749
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,639
but politically they worked with them as well. And there

750
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,920
was always a way to figure out a functional relationship

751
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:03,360
the Iranians. And it was the Iranians who wanted a

752
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,000
functional relationship with the United States despite all the slogan

753
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:12,679
earring they bought weapons from Israel in the nineteen eighties.

754
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:22,800
So this animosity is mainly created by the Israelis on

755
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,920
behalf of the United States, and they've been leading the

756
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:30,000
US into this war for decades, not just under Trump.

757
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,280
And you just realize that the Americans don't have an

758
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,840
independent foreign policy at all. And then you look at

759
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,760
the Epstein files and what do they tell you? They

760
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,360
tell you that the whole world doesn't think that the

761
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,880
Americans have it independent foreign policy. The Indians, when they

762
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,880
need anything, they talk to Jeffrey Epstein, The kutter Is,

763
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,119
when they need something, they talk to Epstein, The Humeriti

764
00:55:59,199 --> 00:56:05,719
Is they need something, they talked to Epstein. And You're like, Okay,

765
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,760
how is this a sovereign country right where the foreign

766
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,679
relations of that country have to be conducted through an

767
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:20,480
ethnic mafia? Mm hmm, Well that becomes the issue.

768
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so we're seeing we're seeing the model right

769
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:37,280
were yeah, Philadelphia, the Five Boroughs Baltimore, were those majority

770
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:46,920
or even plurality Italian? No, but were they under the

771
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:54,440
management in aegis of an Italian specifically Sicilian protection racket

772
00:56:54,599 --> 00:57:00,320
for years and years and years? Absolutely? So you see

773
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:13,599
how small minorities in certain situations, by the wily exercise

774
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:19,960
of power can gain effective control. And that's what's going

775
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,519
on in the form in the in the in the mega,

776
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:28,679
I don't control everything, just like the mafia didn't control everything,

777
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:38,679
but these certain meta uh uh aspects of of rule

778
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:45,679
and economic action absolutely are I don't want to say controlled,

779
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:50,320
but more than heavily influenced. How's that.

780
00:57:53,639 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 3: That? That's very diplomatic and just try the Yeah, just

781
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,639
as with the Italian mafia, it wasn't every ital like

782
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:06,760
with the Sicilian mafia, wasn't every Sicilian?

783
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: Right, It's exactly right.

784
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:15,599
Speaker 3: But to such a to like to talk about the

785
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:18,079
mafia without mentioning Sicilians is stupid.

786
00:58:18,519 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And but isn't that a don't you

787
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,159
find that that's a good analog for what we're looking at,

788
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,599
just scaled up on a national basis.

789
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,599
Speaker 3: Even even if you take the Ukraine example, you had

790
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:39,760
the source network instigating the unrest mm hmm through the

791
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,440
NGOs that they backed through the Open Society Foundation, et cetera,

792
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,119
et cetera.

793
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, in our state, Norma was playing right along.

794
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Victoria Nulid's role is you know,

795
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,440
well documented, Yeah, very yeah, exactly.

796
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: Was the Russian Was it the Russians that lake that

797
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,320
phone call?

798
00:58:59,119 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

799
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: It was a Russians I think, so, yeah, that was Russians.

800
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,159
Speaker 2: Okay, unbelievable. I listened to that occasionally just to be

801
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,360
did that really happen?

802
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: It's it's incredible, incredible. Who should be meeting with whom? When?

803
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,559
And how often should they be speaking to each other?

804
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:22,360
And who should have witch post? Like? It was incredible.

805
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,320
But you had the Soorrows network instigating the unrest, you

806
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,360
had Epstein and Rothschild talking about how to profit from it,

807
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:38,519
and now you have Kushner helping Blackrock acid strip Ukraine

808
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,599
to help them pay off their debts for the war.

809
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:42,559
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

810
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:45,079
Speaker 3: And you have talked about how they're going to receive

811
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:50,079
eight million migrants in order to replace the losses that

812
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:51,159
have happened during the war.

813
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so certainly Ukraine isn't Ukrainian anymore?

814
00:59:55,519 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 3: Is it exactly like this? This whole thing. I mean,

815
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,440
if you're going to take eight million migrants, that's it.

816
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:03,760
You've given up your country, that's that's that's like twenty

817
01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:04,599
of Ukraine.

818
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:07,239
Speaker 2: Oh what does that sound like?

819
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: Sounds likely work except Israel, except Israel, yeah.

820
01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: Or Japan, God bless the Japanese.

821
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking about I'm talking about the West, because

822
01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:27,599
Israel considers themselves to be part of the Western, the

823
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:32,280
Western tradition. Yeah, they're the only demoscraph there is only

824
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:33,639
doesn't have a constitution.

825
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:36,599
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, there is no such thing. There's

826
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:41,599
only Christendom. How about, speaking of which you'll are both Catholic. Sorry, okay,

827
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:43,320
keep on going, keep going.

828
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: If you were to just compare that to the Italian mafia,

829
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:55,079
you get Kansas City, you get Philadelphia, you get New York,

830
01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:59,880
and you get Vegas. It's each one of them and

831
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:03,760
up with a slice. It's all under the cross on Austra.

832
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:09,920
It's all Sicilian. It's not all Sicilians. But it's just

833
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,400
exactly like the mafia, which each one of them having

834
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:17,199
their own racket that they specialize in. It's very and

835
01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:24,480
the destabilization Rothschild in the trading, black rock in the

836
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:27,159
hatch fund, asset stripping, same thing.

837
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the reasons when people bring up

838
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:33,760
the mob. It's one of the reasons why I like

839
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:38,559
to recommend the movie, the TV show Boardwalk Empire, because

840
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,639
if you think about every mob movie you've ever seen,

841
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:48,920
there's always another ethnic group right there working with them.

842
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:53,480
Meyer Lanski, I mean, just think back to Bugsy Siegel.

843
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,239
I mean Bugsy Siegel. Is was Bugsy Siegel responsible for

844
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:02,880
building for creating Las Vegas? I mean possibly? You know,

845
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,840
So what you know, it's it's always networks. You know,

846
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:13,639
you talk about when Teal is talking to Epstein, that's

847
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:16,840
two networks talking to each other. When you when you

848
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,800
hear Hunter Biden, you hear another more junior varsity even

849
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,559
little league kind of network trying to operate within the world,

850
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,199
and it's just so funny. It's really odd that they're

851
01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:35,880
the people who are the ones on the ground talking

852
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,440
to people just happen to be insane degenerates. Let's not

853
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:44,159
forget that Hunter Biden's laptop is I think that nine

854
01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:48,519
of the police who saw that laptop are dead. Nine

855
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:51,519
of the new NYPD officers who saw that laptop are

856
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:56,480
dead at this time. So yeah, I mean, you're talking

857
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,559
about net You're talking about just warring faction that work

858
01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:02,679
together every once in a while, and then they go

859
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:04,760
to war against each other every once in a while,

860
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,800
and I mean, that's the world we live in.

861
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:09,679
Speaker 3: Is just.

862
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: This country was founded by a certain stock that was

863
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,880
too nice to allow people to allow other ethnic stocks

864
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,400
in to come in and become competing ethnic networks or

865
01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:32,440
who were more organized and more well funded in many

866
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,880
cases and more well connected around the world.

867
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and the world connections matter because it

868
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:51,039
just allows financial opportunities that wouldn't exist otherwise. And it

869
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:54,480
allows a level of trust between different networks based on

870
01:03:54,519 --> 01:03:58,639
ethnicity that wouldn't exist otherwise. And this isn't unique to

871
01:03:58,679 --> 01:04:02,599
any particular group. Like all over the Levant, Armenian trades

872
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:07,280
traders are famous because they behave in a clannish way

873
01:04:07,519 --> 01:04:11,360
and support other Armenians and that made them the biggest

874
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:18,519
businessmen in the Levant for many generations. So, but you

875
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:28,320
have the Israel factor, which complicates things in a particular way.

876
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:33,599
Speaker 2: Trump just announced that the Navy US Navy is going

877
01:04:33,639 --> 01:04:37,800
to start escorting ships through the Strait of Horror moves.

878
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 3: Yep, which is which is providing insurance.

879
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:46,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, which which just goes to show you that the

880
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:52,440
battle is commerce, the battle is the battle is always commerce.

881
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,599
I had a friend who was in the Coast Guard

882
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:05,000
and he wasn't. He was fighting fighting Somali pirates off

883
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,920
the coast of Somalia when he was supposed to be here,

884
01:05:08,519 --> 01:05:13,559
you know, monitoring, you know, drunk people who are on

885
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:16,199
the Great Lakes driving their boat too fast. He's supposed

886
01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:18,280
to go, hey, stop or every once in a while

887
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,880
you go down and you try and you know, kill

888
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,519
some drug runners off off of Miami. But he wasn't

889
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,400
going after Somali pirates because Somali pirates were threatening the

890
01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:34,480
sovereignsy of another nation. No, they were threatening commerce. And

891
01:05:34,599 --> 01:05:35,800
that's what this is all about.

892
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: The thing is, this seems like a particularly stupid idea

893
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:49,760
for a couple of reasons. First, the sort of standard

894
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,000
Iranian navy such as it is, is destroyed. But the

895
01:05:55,079 --> 01:06:01,719
asymmetric bits, like the small boats and like the drones

896
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,360
that they can fire at ships, these are not destroyed.

897
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:10,280
And if you thought the hothy word problem, the Iranians

898
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,239
are going to be ten times that problem.

899
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what I was about to bring up.

900
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,480
Is this is putting you think this thing is a mess.

901
01:06:18,519 --> 01:06:21,719
Now wait until a US hull is sitting at the

902
01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:30,320
bottom of a golf exactly or even even paralyzed by

903
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,559
I mean a drone probably doesn't take out a ship,

904
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:35,760
but it could, but it could disable a ship.

905
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

906
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:44,519
Speaker 2: Uh so that's a you know, there's a game of

907
01:06:44,639 --> 01:06:47,719
chicken that's being played here. If we go down this road,

908
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:52,559
that is, you are playing into the the the cost.

909
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:58,559
What does when you play chicken, you better have an advantage,

910
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:03,239
an incentive. If that guy you're playing chicken with values

911
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,559
his life or his existential crisis less than you do,

912
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,039
you're going to lose. You're either both going to be

913
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:12,239
dead or you're going to be you know what I'm saying.

914
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:19,719
So I understand the incentive to get shipping to say

915
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,119
all right, fine, we'll just escort these ships. We got

916
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:28,320
to get this going, but you are introducing a level

917
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,840
of risk that may not be worth the payoff.

918
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And the mountains are full of ballistic missile bases,

919
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,840
so they're going to be firing short range anti ship

920
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:46,480
missiles that's right, these ships. And they have the unmanned

921
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:50,960
marine vehicles, that's right, the marine drones which they're going

922
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,880
to be using. And lastly, if they think that their

923
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,760
embargo is failing, they're just going to hit the energy

924
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:06,400
at the source. They haven't targeted energy in as much

925
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:12,480
force as they could. Yet they've attacked Fujaia. There's been

926
01:08:12,519 --> 01:08:16,199
an attack on the Adamko refinery in Rasta.

927
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 8: Noura, but they have it, yeah, and it shut down

928
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,439
the refinery, and there's a story that it might be

929
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,239
false flag, and the Iranians said that they didn't do it,

930
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,279
which is weird because they've taken credit for a lot

931
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:38,640
of other things.

932
01:08:37,119 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 3: But they haven't properly pounded the energy infrastructure. And if

933
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,880
you try to break their blockade, you're giving them an

934
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:52,439
incentive to go after these assets more forcefully, because what

935
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,000
they want to do is to convince the countries of

936
01:08:57,039 --> 01:09:01,319
the region to stop shipping oil until the war is over.

937
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Yeah, you just raise it. All you're doing

938
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,680
is raising the cost on your adversary. I mean the

939
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,439
in asymmetric war. Can I make this as painful and

940
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,720
costly as possible so that you don't want to fight

941
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,800
anymore because I can't fight you head up that that's

942
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:23,279
every asymmetrical war, that's Vietnam, that's uh, you know. So

943
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:29,279
that's why I saw some weird questioning on the internet

944
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that why would they hit an Iranian flagship the other day.

945
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:39,039
Because you're oil is fungible. You just want to raise

946
01:09:39,079 --> 01:09:42,439
the cost on your adversary. Make this as painful as possible,

947
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,279
and we're going to see it. I don't know what

948
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:49,439
if the average gas price has been released yet, but

949
01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:50,640
you know.

950
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:53,279
Speaker 1: In my area.

951
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so I filled up on Sunday night before

952
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:02,840
the price is hit. But you you know, it won't

953
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,199
take much to get to five dollars gas. And that's

954
01:10:07,239 --> 01:10:12,479
painful on Americans in an election year, in a you know,

955
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,279
a midterm year. Again, just.

956
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 3: This was not you know, they're going to do everything

957
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:26,880
that they can. The The Iranians have an economic Samson option.

958
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

959
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,079
Speaker 3: They they there there there was a bombing in Abadan,

960
01:10:33,399 --> 01:10:36,399
which is where most of their energy industry is concentrated.

961
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,079
An advisor to the head of the IRGC said that

962
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,880
if you hit our primary targets, we're going to destroy

963
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:51,800
economic assets in the region. And if you try to

964
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,680
break their blockade, they're going to try to enforce it

965
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,239
in other ways. And so the first convoy that gets

966
01:10:58,319 --> 01:11:01,279
in is going to be hit by everything. And in

967
01:11:01,319 --> 01:11:05,479
a way, the US needs to see where the fire

968
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,039
is coming from, because that's part of how they're going

969
01:11:09,039 --> 01:11:16,319
to acquire their targets. So it just seems a like

970
01:11:16,399 --> 01:11:17,840
a serious gamble here.

971
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:24,119
Speaker 1: Well, something that doctor field As reminded me the other night.

972
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:27,640
He said he likes to remind everyone that there has

973
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:33,279
been exactly one time in recent history, and this could

974
01:11:33,319 --> 01:11:37,479
be all of history when regime change was accomplished solely

975
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,039
by air power, and it was Serbia, and there was

976
01:11:41,039 --> 01:11:43,960
also a color revolution going on on the ground, but

977
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:48,399
an invasion force was being prepared at the time, so

978
01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:52,319
you know, there is that's to take into consideration as well.

979
01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:58,199
Speaker 3: And Serbia took seventy eight days. Serbia took seventy eight

980
01:11:58,279 --> 01:11:59,600
days to concede it on Kosovo.

981
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: And Serbia is not Iran exactly.

982
01:12:06,199 --> 01:12:10,039
Speaker 3: So Serbia at the time had I believe six million people.

983
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:17,399
Iran has ninety. It's a much bigger place. Serbia was

984
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,159
cut off from Russia. Iran is not cut off from

985
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:29,079
China and Russia. And so the calculus here, I mean, again,

986
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,800
maybe you do kill enough of them and it works, maybe,

987
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:40,000
but the IERGC is highly indoctrinated and they're not going

988
01:12:40,039 --> 01:12:44,279
to be happy with this, uh, with this being forced

989
01:12:44,279 --> 01:12:48,520
down their throat. Besides, if their aim is to rule

990
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:53,439
Iran the day after and transition Iran under their leadership.

991
01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:57,640
Because every Islamic regime ends up turning into a military

992
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,960
dictatorship at some point, they need to have a narrative

993
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,199
of victory. They need to have a narrative that said,

994
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,239
we survived this war, we did what we promised we

995
01:13:10,279 --> 01:13:16,479
would do. This is what justifies us governing. And so again,

996
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:27,680
this war is so completely unnecessary.

997
01:13:23,079 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: Or do we want to discuss the fact that it

998
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,880
looks like now there have been two times in a

999
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:36,640
row where the United States was in serious negotiations and

1000
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:41,199
the the was it no money. Was in a no

1001
01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:42,800
money rep who was.

1002
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:47,520
Speaker 3: Talking about how the money foreign minister he was mediating

1003
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,640
in Geneva, And basically what he's saying is that we

1004
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,840
were incredibly close to a nuclear agreement and the Iranians

1005
01:13:56,159 --> 01:14:00,479
seeded pretty much everything on the nuclear thing except for

1006
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:06,239
retaining an enrichment capacity at a very low level under

1007
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:11,560
complete surveillance. And what the surveillance means is that every

1008
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:17,600
nuclear site is known and is covered by cameras seen

1009
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,359
by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

1010
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: But it's just you're not going to believe they don't

1011
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,600
believe it, you know, Hitler was lying about everything. Putin

1012
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,920
lies about everything. The enemy always lies about everything. They

1013
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,279
the only people that can be trusted are the Israelis.

1014
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,640
I mean it's like they're the only ones telling the truth.

1015
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:43,800
Their enemies never tell the truth. And it's this is why,

1016
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,920
I mean, this is this is why you can't. We

1017
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,439
can't deal with the Israelis anymore. We need them out

1018
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,239
of our lives, out of our politics, out of our lives,

1019
01:14:54,279 --> 01:14:58,680
because they there is no you can't have a conversation

1020
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,319
with them. You're not going to convince them of anything.

1021
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,159
Whatever they want, they're going to do, and they have

1022
01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:07,560
it set up that this government is going to go

1023
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,439
along with it. And if need be, American men are

1024
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,079
American you know, boys are going to get killed and

1025
01:15:15,159 --> 01:15:17,039
it doesn't matter. And I'm not you know, and it's

1026
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:19,399
not I'm not here clutching my pearls. I know that

1027
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,600
people men die in war. And I'm not a total

1028
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,720
anti war guy. If war needs to be fought, war

1029
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,239
needs to be fought. But this war doesn't need to

1030
01:15:29,239 --> 01:15:31,960
be fought. There's no reason the six lives that we

1031
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:35,359
know of right now have to be had to have

1032
01:15:35,399 --> 01:15:39,720
been lost. I mean, this is we're in a situation

1033
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:45,279
where we just there's no way that you can you

1034
01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:49,079
can call you can call yourselves a sovereign nation. You

1035
01:15:49,119 --> 01:15:51,720
can call yourself a sovereign nation, or you can call

1036
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,840
your you know, I'm a free American.

1037
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: No you're not.

1038
01:15:56,119 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 3: You're not.

1039
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: If these people, if these people are are in control

1040
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,680
and I'm in England's not any better. England's under control,

1041
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,279
under control of if not a foreign influence, a foreign

1042
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,680
way of thinking that has just absolutely taken over the

1043
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,840
whole country.

1044
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's you. It's not compatible with being a

1045
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:32,039
free people. And you can only make democracy work under

1046
01:16:32,399 --> 01:16:38,199
very narrow circumstances where you have a truly virtuous and

1047
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:46,439
extremely cohesive and usually small population. These are the factors

1048
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,920
that are necessary for democracy to work. It doesn't work

1049
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,119
when you have ethnic mafias. It just doesn't work.

1050
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:07,359
Speaker 2: Or mass democracy by its nature magnifies the footprint of

1051
01:17:07,359 --> 01:17:13,840
of of in group, preferencing minorities. That's just that's just

1052
01:17:14,039 --> 01:17:19,199
how it works. So mass democracy can only well, mass

1053
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:24,079
democracy really never it's like communism. It's it's a utopian

1054
01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:30,239
idea representative democracy and within a mixed regime. If you're

1055
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:35,399
disciplined can work. Uh, but we left that along time ago.

1056
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:40,840
I wanted to mention just some of the economic asymmetry

1057
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:46,880
that's at play here as to why, you know again, Uh,

1058
01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:51,439
I want the you know, I'm a patriot, I want

1059
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,600
the I want a return to Christendom one day. I

1060
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:59,000
want the United States to to have its you know,

1061
01:17:59,079 --> 01:18:04,960
it's it's self interests met. But this is a huge

1062
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,760
thing standing in the way in the case of this

1063
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:12,039
particular conflict. So an Iranian shot drone is twenty to

1064
01:18:12,079 --> 01:18:16,520
fifty thousand dollars, depending on payload and range. An Iranian

1065
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,640
short range ballistic missile or medium range ballistic missile that's

1066
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,079
the short range anywhere from one hundred thousand dollars, the

1067
01:18:25,159 --> 01:18:28,840
medium range up to a million dollars of costs. Now,

1068
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,680
listen to this. So you've got twenty thousand to fifty

1069
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,319
thousand for drones, one hundred thousand to a million for

1070
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:42,800
ballistic missile costs. A Patriot interceptor that's three to four

1071
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:49,439
million dollars per shot, a THAD interceptor ten to fifteen

1072
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:54,039
million per shot. And hey, our replacement rate on those

1073
01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:57,399
is like two maybe three a month.

1074
01:18:58,079 --> 01:18:58,520
Speaker 3: That's it.

1075
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:04,319
Speaker 2: An SM three interceptor. So that's from our IJIS platforms

1076
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:08,000
and our IGISA ground platforms or ijis ashore. Pardon me,

1077
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:15,600
that's twelve to twenty million per shot. Now, to quote

1078
01:19:16,119 --> 01:19:19,880
Maggie Thatcher, pretty soon you run out of other people's money,

1079
01:19:21,399 --> 01:19:24,239
even if you've got a global reserve currency. This and

1080
01:19:24,279 --> 01:19:27,840
this doesn't even go to the inability for us to

1081
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,680
replenish this at a much slower rate than now. Shutting

1082
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,000
down the straight of horn Moves is a two way street.

1083
01:19:35,119 --> 01:19:40,600
That's going to the propellant precursors for the Iranian missile

1084
01:19:41,279 --> 01:19:47,560
systems are usually shipped around and through the Strait from China.

1085
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,720
Most of the precursors come from China, but the other

1086
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:57,880
bits can come in other ways. But I just want

1087
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,159
people to be aware of the economic a symmetry here.

1088
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:08,520
This calculus cannot go for long, even even setting aside

1089
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,439
the limited magazine depth, the limited Sordie rate, because of

1090
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:17,520
the geography involved. And this is a real problem in

1091
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,760
addition to the Arab coalition showing already starting to show

1092
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,119
some cracks because we can't defend them.

1093
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:29,199
Speaker 3: We can't. And you had a Saudi analyst complaining on

1094
01:20:29,279 --> 01:20:31,520
TV a couple of days ago.

1095
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: You did Al Jazeera in non englisha Al Jazeera.

1096
01:20:38,359 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 3: That basically they find that they've been abandoned. Yes, you

1097
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:47,560
have Bloomberg saying that they're asking for replenishment of their

1098
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:53,159
interceptors and they're being fopped off mm hmm.

1099
01:20:54,079 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 2: And we don't have the interceptors to go around.

1100
01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 3: You have the Americans talking about moving the interceptors that

1101
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:07,600
are in South Korea, which means that they're probably not

1102
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:12,239
going to come back, not anytime soon, not in a

1103
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:18,000
meaningful timeline. And this is a wonderful opportunity for the Chinese.

1104
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,479
So the way that this could play out, and the

1105
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,960
Saudis can't be happy that Bahrain is on fire. I

1106
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,199
mean the naval base in Bahrain has been pounded. But

1107
01:21:31,279 --> 01:21:34,199
more importantly, the Shia are rising up in Bahrain.

1108
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: Again social a lot of social unrest. Yeah, lots of

1109
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,439
evidence for that in on the ocean sides.

1110
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and the Saudis are terrified that will be contagious

1111
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,720
because the eastern province of Saudi Arabia is mostly Shia

1112
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,319
mm hmm, or is largely Shia. It used to be

1113
01:21:57,399 --> 01:21:59,840
mostly Shia. Now a lot of people have settled there,

1114
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,680
so on every level. This war is a terrible thing

1115
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,359
for the golf countries mm hm. And they haven't started

1116
01:22:08,399 --> 01:22:12,680
experiencing proper large scale economic losses yet. And the hooth

1117
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:13,960
you haven't activated yet.

1118
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:21,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, explain So, so Parah's explain for the average American

1119
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:27,880
or the average watcher of Pete's Great Show, Why would

1120
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:34,439
explain how, especially the UAE has so many visitors, how

1121
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,199
that's going to be impacted by all this, Because this

1122
01:22:37,359 --> 01:22:41,039
is you're talking about You're you're talking about Disney. This

1123
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:44,000
is this is Europe's for the well to do kind

1124
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,600
of Europe's Disney World, isn't it.

1125
01:22:47,399 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they get tens of millions of tourists

1126
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:55,560
or people flying through every year. Dubai Airport is one

1127
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,119
of the busiest in the world. And the cut that

1128
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:07,079
is the the Imaratis and now increasingly the Saudis all

1129
01:23:07,119 --> 01:23:11,840
have their airlines with the global reach and they're a

1130
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,479
little like they're in the middle of the planet. So

1131
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,359
if you're going from Europe to Asia, you're probably going

1132
01:23:20,319 --> 01:23:24,399
either over that airspace or landing there and taking a

1133
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:31,399
connecting flight. And so that whole pathway has been shut

1134
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,880
down at a time when the Russian airspace is also closed,

1135
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:42,439
so everybody is now rerouting to Azerbaijan. But Azerbaijan is

1136
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,439
pretty close to the Israelis and it might get you know,

1137
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,239
it might get involved at some point, and then that

1138
01:23:50,319 --> 01:23:55,359
airspace stops being safe. So you've cut off the West

1139
01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:59,680
from the East, and the Asians are going to be

1140
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:04,960
scol about the oil prices. They're going they're going to

1141
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:10,239
be absolutely furious because China gets fifty percent of its

1142
01:24:10,279 --> 01:24:13,319
old from the Middle East, Japan and South Korea is

1143
01:24:13,359 --> 01:24:19,880
probably something similar. So if that is shut down, it

1144
01:24:20,279 --> 01:24:25,880
basically triggers an economic catastrophe. If the Uranians follow through

1145
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,640
with their threat of actually targeting the energy infrastructure properly,

1146
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:37,319
which they haven't done yet, you're looking at a disaster

1147
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,279
situation for global energy.

1148
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are we doing this to our We're trying

1149
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:47,720
to win as many friends and keep as many friends

1150
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:53,039
as possible in Asia, in the in the you know,

1151
01:24:53,159 --> 01:24:57,319
the the Chinese theater, so to speak, the Chinese near

1152
01:24:57,359 --> 01:25:01,520
abroad from the Japanese all the way down South Korea,

1153
01:25:02,319 --> 01:25:07,840
uh uh, all the way to the Assis. This has

1154
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,119
to be Now, the Assis have some of their own minerals,

1155
01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:14,199
but the but this this is this can't be good

1156
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:18,520
for you know, Japan has swung hard to the right.

1157
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:26,880
This should be maybe our greatest ally in the sense

1158
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:32,800
of of outside are near abroad and we're we're about

1159
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,279
to cut them off at the knees with this.

1160
01:25:36,199 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 3: Yes, and the companies have already shut off LNG exports.

1161
01:25:43,279 --> 01:25:45,520
That's a quarter of LNG exports.

1162
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,239
Speaker 2: Where did where did L and G I saw the gas?

1163
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:54,039
The natural gas prices were up about fifty percent yesterday

1164
01:25:54,079 --> 01:25:57,279
in Europe. How did they close today? Were they up again?

1165
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:05,520
Speaker 3: Well, in Britain they're up almost one hundred Oh my gosh.

1166
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:12,119
Speaker 4: And that's that's even the Europeans are saying to Ukraine,

1167
01:26:12,319 --> 01:26:16,439
of all people, please can you reopen the connections to

1168
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,520
Russian oil because we can't handle this right now.

1169
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 2: We didn't the Ukrainians bomb up a depot Yeah, yeah,

1170
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,119
that's just been a two or three weeks ago, right.

1171
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: Yes, because they are trying to cut off Slovakia and

1172
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:39,199
Hungary who insist that hey, cheap energy is good. What

1173
01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:43,439
a crazy idea. And so the Ukrainians are threatening to

1174
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:47,159
punish them, or have punished them, and they're saying, well,

1175
01:26:47,159 --> 01:26:48,600
if you do this, we're not going to supply you

1176
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:55,199
with electricity anymore. And so the Ukrainians are acting like

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drunken mafiosos of their own accord under Zelenski. And now

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you cut off you've cut off Russian energy from the West,

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and now you're risking a cut off of Middle Eastern energy.

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How is that in anybody's interests mm hmmm. So there's

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there might be a military plan which has bombed them

1182
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until they submit, but there's certainly no economic plan. The

1183
01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:37,399
thing is, if Trump fails on this and discredits MAGA

1184
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and discredits the right in general, which is precisely what

1185
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most senators want, let's be honest, which is precisely what

1186
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:51,920
the GOP establishment wants, then you're going to end up

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with infinity migration all over the West, because why not.

1188
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And if you end up with a democratic administration in

1189
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the twenty twenty eight election, they're just going to open

1190
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the border and everybody on the right in Europe is

1191
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,920
going to lose because Trump proved to be a disaster.

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So the risk reward ratio for this makes no sense. No,

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And if the interceptors run out, they're going to have

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to back down in a couple of weeks and if

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you're the Iranians, what are you going to do? Well,

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what you're going to do is try to negotiate a

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separate cease fire with the Americans, then with the Israelis.

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But that's the whole reason that the Americans went to

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war in the first place for these Raelis. So the

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ways this could go badly are numerous, and there's only

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one way that this could go well, which is that

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by bombing the Iranians they end up submitting, which didn't

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01:28:58,399 --> 01:29:02,960
happen to Hasbada took them a year of pounding. It

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didn't happen to the Hothy and Iron is so much bigger.

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Speaker 9: Oh what about Afghanistan? Oh like, how's Libya going? How'd

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that work out?

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Speaker 1: But you have to understand that that wasn't Trump, as

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jd Vance said last year when they bombed you know what,

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01:29:37,279 --> 01:29:41,680
when when they bombed the nuclear plant, all those things

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you're talking about in the past, those were done under

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dumb presidents.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope he can pull a rabbit out of

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a hat. I really do. I don't need to see.

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I don't see how it could happen, you know, I

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think I think there was in the Iranian in the

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Persian diaspora. There was this unrealistic hope about Raza, but

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he's a that's not gonna happen. That was never a

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01:30:15,279 --> 01:30:20,680
viable option everybody, you know, nostalgia kills and there's a

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01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:26,039
sense of would we all love nineteen sixties Iran to

1220
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come back? Yeah, the world would love that, but chiefly

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the United States. It would be great, But nostalgia kills.

1222
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That's not happening. You've got to have a plan for

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a way forward. There is a difference between nostalgia and reaction,

1224
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but sometimes reaction devolves into nostalgia. And that's what I

1225
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fear this has been. This is what this all smells like,

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is Wow, if we could just go back to pre

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uh uh you know, pre revolution Iran, well, we would

1228
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all love that, but how do you get there? How

1229
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do you really get there? And it's uh, you know,

1230
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I see the I see the the the Iranian dish

1231
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or calling for the people to rise up, but the

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the what does that look like for the for the

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for the Iranians, the Republican guards seems I mean, are

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you just gonna are you going to depend on the

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United States to carpet bomb every single uh place where

1236
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the Republican Guard might be. They're they're completely distributed throughout

1237
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the country. How what does that look like? How long

1238
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does that take? What is that? What are you left

1239
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with afterwards?

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Speaker 3: You?

1241
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're left with Iraq or Syria, right, you.

1242
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:04,159
Speaker 3: Know, broken country, right, which is which is fine for

1243
01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:08,680
these Raelis, that's right, but it strengthens Turkey.

1244
01:32:10,119 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 2: It's fine for the Israelis for right now, exactly, it's

1245
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not for five years on the line. It's a disaster,

1246
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:24,399
that's exactly right. It's it's it's a and and hey, look,

1247
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:30,560
put your put your uh, you know, your funny black

1248
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:37,199
hat on for a second. Let's say let's let's say

1249
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:41,640
this does go, uh, the the US swings left in

1250
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twenty eight or swings hard left in in the mid

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01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,039
terms and then and then goes with a Democrat president.

1252
01:32:50,079 --> 01:32:53,399
What's interesting is everybody's black pilling on the on the

1253
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on the mid terms and the twenty eight deal. Right now,

1254
01:32:58,319 --> 01:33:02,520
the generic numbers are add the head to head numbers

1255
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:08,399
aren't so bad because the Democrats candidates are so pissed

1256
01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:12,399
poor pardon me, so it all is not lost, but

1257
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but you've got to get a plan really quick. But

1258
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,359
let's say it does swing left. Let me tell you

1259
01:33:17,399 --> 01:33:21,199
what the cup that what the left looks like. This

1260
01:33:21,399 --> 01:33:24,840
next generation of left isn't a walk in the park

1261
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:31,600
for the for the Israelis, the the upcoming American left

1262
01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:36,600
is gonna look they need to be very realistic about

1263
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:41,079
what they are, what they might be bringing upon themselves.

1264
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And it's not pretty, no, And.

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Speaker 3: It's quickly getting to a point where if people believe

1266
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,680
that voting is pointless, which it has been for three

1267
01:33:55,760 --> 01:34:02,119
decades now, then they're going to resolve politics the old

1268
01:34:02,119 --> 01:34:04,279
fashioned way, which is violence.

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Speaker 2: Would would you be shocked if we start seeing political

1270
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assassinations in the US And it's harder in the UK

1271
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because of the gun laws, but I would imagine that

1272
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,680
motivated folks could figure out a way around that.

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Speaker 3: We've had two MPs killed over the last five years.

1274
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:34,840
I believe five or seven years. I'm not sure when. Yeah,

1275
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:36,760
I'm not one hundred percent sure of the dates, but

1276
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,520
in the last few years we've had two MPs killed.

1277
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:47,319
The left here is rabid and it's absolutely mad, and

1278
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:52,520
it's more extreme than anything you could possibly imagine. They're

1279
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:57,239
explicit about wanting open borders because now the left is

1280
01:34:57,279 --> 01:34:59,600
no longer the Labor Party. The left is the Greens,

1281
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:04,960
who are insane communists led by this guy called Zach Velanski,

1282
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:10,239
literally in an alliance with the worst Muslims in the country,

1283
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:17,800
not any Muslims, the worst Muslims in the country. And okay,

1284
01:35:19,039 --> 01:35:22,239
these are people who are explicit about open borders and

1285
01:35:22,279 --> 01:35:26,279
transiting children. And the answer to that is, well, if

1286
01:35:26,319 --> 01:35:28,479
you win the election, then I'm still not going to

1287
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:32,319
accept it, or for average British people, they will still

1288
01:35:32,359 --> 01:35:37,239
say that they're not going to accept it. In the

1289
01:35:37,359 --> 01:35:43,760
United States, it's pretty much the same thing. So you're

1290
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:48,560
running out of ways in which to resolve this peacefully.

1291
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:51,239
That's the real risk.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and if you create an economic crisis, the housing market,

1293
01:36:00,079 --> 01:36:03,640
it is in a precarious situation already in Britain and

1294
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:09,720
in the United States, the level of debt is unprecedented

1295
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,399
because of the global financial crisis and because of COVID.

1296
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 3: France, Spain, Italy, Britain, the US. They all have completely

1297
01:36:22,039 --> 01:36:28,239
unsustainable debts. Throw in a good old fashioned energy crisis

1298
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:38,279
and then you could get chaos. So again, the risks

1299
01:36:38,319 --> 01:36:43,720
that are being taken here are not commensurate with the

1300
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,520
level of Iranian threat in any shape, way or form,

1301
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:53,439
and with Rubius saying is saying, you know, we had

1302
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,439
to do it because the Israelis made us essentially or

1303
01:36:56,479 --> 01:37:02,800
we're going to make us. Well, okay, uh, how do

1304
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,159
you how do you fix that?

1305
01:37:08,359 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: It's uh, it seems seemingly intractable unless here's my here's

1306
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,960
my vision. That's not gonna happen. I realize that, but

1307
01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:26,000
here's my vision. And I think you had a small

1308
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:34,600
you had a very tiny shadow step towards this yesterday.

1309
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,279
But I think the way that if if if I

1310
01:37:42,319 --> 01:37:48,479
were suddenly you know, I would encourage just mm hmm.

1311
01:37:49,159 --> 01:37:56,159
What got Trump elected, which wasn't just wasn't policy genius

1312
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,880
or anything like that. It was the ability to speak frankly,

1313
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:07,560
within in in a realist manner to average people and say,

1314
01:38:08,119 --> 01:38:12,239
we have we need to add he needs to double

1315
01:38:12,279 --> 01:38:16,520
down on America first, that the citizens of the United

1316
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:21,760
States should be the number one through ten beneficiaries of

1317
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:28,640
both domestic and foreign policy. That where mistakes have been made,

1318
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,319
allude to them. You don't have to bathe in you

1319
01:38:33,359 --> 01:38:38,359
don't have to bathe in your own mistakes, but just acknowledge. Look,

1320
01:38:38,359 --> 01:38:41,159
there's been times where this country has bowed to the

1321
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:46,720
to the to the to the desires of others who

1322
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:50,640
have been and it's good to have friends, but even

1323
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,319
in this sense, even in the case of friends, it's

1324
01:38:53,359 --> 01:38:58,760
my duty to serve the American citizen first foremost, and

1325
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,199
that that's the only way you get through something like

1326
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:07,159
this and say, look, there's times where it was my

1327
01:39:07,359 --> 01:39:10,399
judgment that we entered into this in order to not

1328
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:15,680
be the get drug around into a conflict not of

1329
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:21,359
our own choosing. It's messy, and I'm gonna do I mean,

1330
01:39:21,399 --> 01:39:25,479
this is what Nixon did with Vietnam. Nixon was very

1331
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:30,319
upfront and said, look, we made a miss He didn't

1332
01:39:30,319 --> 01:39:32,319
come out and actually say we made a mistake, but

1333
01:39:32,359 --> 01:39:34,760
he said, we're going to get out of this conflict.

1334
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:39,119
It's that's my job is to get out of this

1335
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:45,399
in the best way for Americans, and that's the I

1336
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,520
think that's the only way to do this. Will he

1337
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:53,439
do it? Can you stand up to the lobby and

1338
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:58,760
to the absolute money avalanche that is going to fund

1339
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:01,960
all these senators? And I don't know, I don't know

1340
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,840
what the answer to that is, probably not, but if.

1341
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:10,079
Speaker 3: That's constitutional, we'll have to follow the advice of courtesy,

1342
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:15,960
Arvin and go fully extra constitutional and say to protect

1343
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:20,279
the Constitution, I have to suspend it. And I'm doing

1344
01:40:20,319 --> 01:40:23,399
it on executive power. And if you don't like it,

1345
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,039
this nice friendly Marin over there is going to pop

1346
01:40:26,079 --> 01:40:32,239
one in your head. Yeah, but there isn't a like,

1347
01:40:32,399 --> 01:40:37,560
There isn't a democratic way out of an oligarchy controlling

1348
01:40:38,279 --> 01:40:40,199
your elected representatives.

1349
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 2: That's the issue that and that's where we are.

1350
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,319
Speaker 3: And so I either do it using the power of

1351
01:40:47,359 --> 01:40:51,800
the state and let them call you fascist, but in

1352
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:56,880
five years time they'll be happy. M Or can you

1353
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:00,680
do it the messy way? Yeah? You either do it,

1354
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:05,000
book Ley, or you do it the messy way, which

1355
01:41:05,079 --> 01:41:11,600
is civil war. Yeah. So it's really bad that Trump

1356
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:15,680
has betrayed the base in this way. There is a

1357
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:19,359
pathway to win this, and I hope it's one for

1358
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:25,119
everybody's sake, but the downside risk is immense.

1359
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Speaker 1: Well, I know Ron has to get out of here,

1360
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,720
so I'll let you guys do plugs. Ferris go ahead first.

1361
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,039
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm on modad geopolitics and I'm on Firas

1362
01:41:38,359 --> 01:41:43,119
dad At on Twitter, Ron.

1363
01:41:46,199 --> 01:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Ron Dodson on Twitter. I have a substack that I've

1364
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,479
been actually publishing very regularly to the Eyes of a Pilice,

1365
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,600
but you can find it under my name Ronald Dodson

1366
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:03,439
and all right for Claremont and American Reformer and Responsible

1367
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:08,079
state Craft. I did a long essay on we mentioned

1368
01:42:08,079 --> 01:42:11,000
the Kabbad earlier. I did a long essay on that

1369
01:42:11,239 --> 01:42:14,640
back in twenty four that kind of explains where these

1370
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,920
where that movement came from, and some of the motivations.

1371
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:21,399
That was inspired by the Brooklyn uncovering of all the

1372
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,760
tunnels and everything. So it's a couple of years old,

1373
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,399
I still think it's timely appreciate if you're interested in

1374
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:31,279
that looking at it, I'll let you.

1375
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Speaker 1: I'll link to it. Gentlemen, you know I didn't mean

1376
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,800
to cut it so short, and everything go to plugs

1377
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,680
so quick. I know ron has to get out of here.

1378
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:43,079
But thank you for the information that you've shared today

1379
01:42:43,079 --> 01:42:46,079
in your opinions, and I appreciate you. Thank you.

1380
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Speaker 3: What was the pleasure.

1381
01:42:48,199 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 2: It's fantastic and we're very lucky to get a chance

1382
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,399
to visit with For us, it's just amazing, great stuff.

1383
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Speaker 1: I was just listening to him on mister Burden had

1384
01:43:00,039 --> 01:43:05,279
I'm on I heard an early release of it today. Yes, yes,

1385
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,159
go check that out because Fears breaks down exactly what

1386
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:10,359
the Epstein Network is.

1387
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Speaker 3: So thank you, thanks,