Speaker 1: Helles and jem and welcome to December seventeenth episode of
Trast told you I'm your host, Tres Snail, A big
shout out.
Speaker 2: If you want something, I'll probably cut it on the video.
If you want to see it, I'll be up there quickly.
I did about two minutes of no audio all over,
as far as I'm getting message from the boys, got
work stuff going on. I couldn't find my power plug in.
You can see that. Just a mess of an opening here.
And Kras told you so, a big shout out, Sue,
super bad Mike, you know, Patroon, producer, fellow Canadian forsaving me.
I'm hoping I would eventually notice that I was muted.
That's what happened, but you never know. I've been there before.
So yes, Ladielan is Trast told you. I'm back here.
What I was saying is what threw me off. As
I got a message from the boys. We're talking about planning, scheduling,
everything like that. If you are planning watching live or
you see the schedule weekly geek is not happening tonight.
Kirkland is barreling down. He's got a test, he's back
in scoring, so he's got a test and there's not
too many news for them. They're not watching the League
trails right now. They'll oscar stuff. We'll talk about one
of us stuff. I've been more some Travis centric type
of episode things, so that's why we're not going to
be doing that. They might be recorded something for the patrons,
because people don't remember for our Patreon producers. Next year,
you guys are getting twelve exclusive episodes. Six of those
are Foreman, bread and Butters, and I think the other
six are duo so like me and Kirkland, me and Tag,
so they might do something that you will hear in
the future. But lots of stuff on the feeds this week.
I still got to drop the scary movie commentary track.
People to enjoy the Rise of Skywalker one, so thanks
for checking that out. Let's get rid of the starting soon.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so lots of good stuff. But me and
Dale just reviewed Fallout episode one for season two last night,
so you can go check that out if you're a fan.
Highly recommend it. I like doing those reviews. I very
much like people might think I don't, but one of
the one of the things I miss, and that's why
I like being on side quest and shout at Chris
balga I. And that's why I love going on Vodka Stream.
I do like being the host, and I think I
somehow kind of like took it over because I remember
the first year we were doing a lot of like
just people would start and I just felt like, Okay,
I got a good canes. Everyone can host, right, But
somehow I just got a like deemed it by just
having certain topics prepepped everything like that, right. But don't
get me wrong, I love sitting back and not hosting.
I like different traps totally. It's fine because I kind
of control this chaos energy I got going on here, right,
But with Marvel Lions, I missed that when Chris was
just driving the vehicle. And I don't know where I
was going with this, but uh, I do like that,
What the fuck was I talking about? Cheez aise? It's
a crazy oh we'll fall out in that same vein
where I host this as far as like the intros
and the plugs, But I like also in that vein
where Dylan knows way more of the fallout stuff than
I because if not that all the stuff we talk
about it. But I feel like with the gimmick. Me
and David are pretty pretty equal, but because I host it all,
you know, button more anytime it's like comic book stuff
that's supposed to follow me and everything, so I like
and I also like that perspective of it. I feel
there's so many times where it's like, oh, just wait
and see what happens on comic thing or talking about that,
or something else will fall out. It's like, oh, there's
this location, this is that. So it makes me appreciate
it and that's a fun time to check out that
we got that on the feeds. They also did a
side quest episode talking about pitching a fall game. I
talked about the Avengers League later on, and then this
week Avatar three is here. So yeah, it's it's interesting.
Oh yay, that's what an interesting kay, I'm gonna bring
this up on this. There's a new casting for the
Giant Epp Screws movie. There's one here in particular I'm
kind of surprised about. So we'll talk about that in
a second. But yeah, today we are doing I think
what I might do because last time I led with
the Avengers trailer, luckily over like two hundred people watching
it was a good day. Now as many people in
chat here, so what I might do because obviously lots
of people were there for that. I'll probably leave the
Spider Man stuff last, you know, unless you send a
super chat right now you want to enforce it. It's
only in our show. But I'll probably do the Spiderman
stuff last, because if there's a if you've not watched trick,
it's obviously with Avengers. I guess I was gonna say, like,
in my mind it was thinking that Avengers was closer,
but it really isn't, I guess, right, Spiderman engine July,
so that is the closer one. But just in case,
last time it was a lively chat people wanting me
to talk about Vengers. So okay, today little less numbers,
which would make sense because I feel like this isn't
as big. And even then to the leak of what's
in the Spider Man stuff is nowhere one near the quality,
and two there's not like a big reveal. I'm not
gonna say what it was, but obviously in the Avengers
trailer there's multiple big reveals in there right where this
is just kind of like, we got Spider Man stuff
going on, We got some stuff maybe about say you think,
which we will talk about. But we got a bunch
of random news today, Tom Oscars talking. I guess this
is Ebeneezer new I got some good Patreon questions and
what else? Was there? A little touching on Warner Brothers
in Paramount and Netflix, so a lot of it's all
kind of like little hitter stuff. And then the back
half I'll leave for Spider Man because I don't have
too much today, but I have a little bit and
some other rumors and scoops going on. But yeah, so
we got Avatar and then finally before I get into this,
this Saturday eleven am psd our last after nine. If
you want to call in join the Phase two tier
and up we call in just talk movies, games, life.
It is the last one, which is usually funny because
the big people are getting ready for Christmas. And as
I've said before, I said this at the end of
last episode. But next week, I don't know the full
schedule of trust told you or if there will be
any I could be traveling. It all depends on Emily's family.
If I'm not and it's just a regular day, then
sure I'll be here. And even though if it's everreen topic.
But if I'm traveling, and even then if I'm at
her mom's, which is Wi Fi is a little iffy.
A few times I've done podcasts, give me a little
iffy there. So as of right now, wait and see.
But there's lots of stuff that's gonna be rouping for
patrons and the public feed. Public feed, you're getting the
video game retrospective and the Christmas one patreons you'll be
getting a bread and butter, you'll be getting the Scary
movie commentary track. So there's always stuff going on for
Geek first, and we very much appreciate everyone there. I
appreciate everyone watching. Yeah, and I have to look. Stat's
been doing good this month. I think it's our biggest
year since our biggest year, which is good. I haven't
eclips to twenty twenty two yet that was a big year.
We'll see what happens, but a big thank you, because
it's always nice, I said before we go continue. It's
like twenty twenty two, I always say, fucked me up
a little bit in a good way. But when we
had thirteen months in a row of like, oh, biggest
month ever, biggest month ever, you just kind of think
that's gonna happen, and then when you kind of get
a little long, and some of that was the content.
Some of that was the strike because when the strike happened,
a lot of stuff delayed or not as much news, right,
but it ebbs and flows. I think that's nice because
it was always kay, Endgame happened and COVID happened. But
I was like, oh, because COVID, that's why we obviously
stuff went down, right, there was a much to talk about,
but then it was like, okay, building building, and then
kind of like a stop and you go down a
little and then you come back up. So and obviously
we still don't reach the heights of twenty twenty two.
They said wouldn't broken the ovall year, but there's been
weeks or not an episode yet. We haven't had. The
top two episodes are Endgame and The Batman. But that
to me is like, well that makes sense. I don't think,
even in my opinion of anything as big as that.
But stuff like our last year, we did the stats,
We're like, okay, because we always went with the TV
shows how those do and we did the stats and
we're like, okay, let's like those are good enough to
keep around, let's see, and then this year all of
them have done pretty well. I have no problem except
it it did all right. It did like about an
average episode, like like we kind of have a barometer
of Okay, this is what we think is good and
then great and average. It's not to the point where
we wouldn't do season two for sure, but it's definitely
if we're busy. We've already said that, well, we'd have
to see that one would be really depend on the month.
And I don't know why because honestly, what was it.
Sinners and Weapons I think are on our top five
and we were, oh, it was like twenty eight days later.
Let me pull up our top ten episodes here right now.
I know people are like, oh, you're just stroking you go, no, no,
I'm just trying to make a point here as far
the year twenty years later, and Sinners and Weapons did
really well for us this year. And don't get me wrong,
like those are great movies, but usually it's always just
ip ip ip, so that's where for the TV shows
and stuff like that. And Alien this year like did
phenomenal for us, like stuff that I didn't think was
gonna happen. I was doing well, So a big thanking
everybody that's like made it. You know, I'll take being
the second biggest year because you know that means we're
on a good climb up and there's not a big
plateau or anything. Yeah, what are we right now?
Speaker 3: Is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alien Killing Alien two episodes, So for us it
goes Superman F four Weapons twenty years later and Sinners
and an Alien Earth, Jurassic World, Brave New World, Thunderbolts,
and Alien Earth. It was Alien Earth premiere on the
episode five, which was like that mini short one right then,
and Ors just snipped at the heels. But yeah, honestly,
like lots of times that doesn't happen. Sometimes there's like
a sneak. I remember one of you're like Matrix Resurrections
sneaked in the top ten. But usually it's just like
all Marvel, DC Star Wars stuff, Right, So I appreciate
everybody listen in case this is the last trap I've
told you, I guess it wouldn't be right because I'm
on an interview Stranger Things. So I'm gonna stop ranting. Now,
let's I'm gonna start with our lovely patrons, and I'm
gonna throw it to Mike Superman MICUs. He asked a
question and he did save me with the audio. So
he said final box office predictions for Avatar III, which
I will bring up. Where was there was the like
final tracking? Right? Let's see, so final tracking right now?
Let me find some water here. You need to drink
after that all the mess that happened there. Oh one second,
let me just answer that work thing. There we go.
So the box office tracking right now. I was just
talking about this with Taylor, Like again, it's a little lower,
but that doesn't really mean because go back a couple
of weeks I talked about Avatar one came in lower
biggest movie of all time, Avatar two came in lower
third biggest movie of all time. The tracking with like
Avatar should almost be non existent right but right now
it's on track to have a three hundred and forty
to three hundred and sixty five global opening. They have
openings that are not like the big traditional blockbuster you know, Avenger,
Star Wars, but they open still relatively well and then
continue on. Sorry, I never took the drink of water
so so for comparison again, Avatar one two hundred and
forty one million, that became the biggest movie of all time,
Avatar two four hundred and forty one million, so it
is tracking lower than two and two had a bigger opening,
which makes sense to me. I think I'm still pretty
confident with let me just confirm what the don't bring
me the twenty fifteen one. Ah geez, I did that
one episode of about like the two thousand's box office,
and I must have been on the twenty fifteen page
lot because anytime I go to box office, Mojor always
brings that up. But let's see way of Water. I
think it's like two point three, right, because I think
the first one was two point nine and then yeah,
and then two point three billion is locked and I said,
like I could see it dropping the the another six
hundred or yeah, six hundred million, uh so that would
put it out. I still think I'm confident in the
two point six to two point seven. I feel like
I'm confident there now. Granted, much to Taylor's point where
he's trying to say that Utopia is gonna be a
bigger opening, So Utopia is gonna have a bigger opening
because that opening like half a million or half a billion, right,
which Avatar is not. That's lagging behind that, but Avatar
has that word of mouth. Mike says, those Christmas season
legs are long though, even though something like mcfoss or
even for some like mcfoss last year, absolutely right, And
that's where Avatar is like cleaned up before. So the
tracking I don't think is much. It's like, Okay, that's interesting,
but and who knows it could even hit two billion.
I'm not gonna count that out completely. I'm gonna say
it's more unlikely because I think that this one's not
that it matters, but it matters a little bit, right
because there's a couple of people like myself that are like, well,
because I think Clay's cocktail. Clay was saying the same thing.
I think maybe might see eventually, but once I kind
of heard it's the lesser of the three. And I
don't really like the first two. It's like, okay, not like,
but I don't like love the first two, right, I
like things about them, but they're not movies I actually
enjoy or seating on to rewatch. So I want to
hear it's less. There, I go, Okay, I'm not gonna
watch that, And definitely the second one had a man,
we've waited so long, this is only two years. People
don't have that we've waited so long type of feeling. Right,
So I feel good with two like one point six
to one point seven. Could it be lower? Sure? The
only thing I will not agree to is it's not
lower than one billion. It was lower than one billion,
then yes, Avatar's dad, we're not doing another film. But
because the bunch was four hundred million on this thing,
I think that's still probably fine. Has to make what
eight hundred to clear it. But I'm confident with the
one point six one point seven. Again, those international markets too,
I don't know how they think. In our way. It
might be oh it's only been two years, do you
need to see another one. They might be Jones and
they might be happy like, oh we only had the
way two years. Great, I can get another Avatar. So
I said this in the opening, I'm plugging in this
right now because I already see the battery life. I
don't trust it. You know, the second goal lot, I
could do the same amount of work on a laptop,
be fine. Second you go live in streaming just so
one second and we're back. So, yeah, that's my final one.
We'll see and we'll be tracking that offuly throughout the
season here and then should I I guess I could
lead into this clay cocktout Lay says, do you think
there's any chance at the disclosure Day? Right? That's the
name of it right now? Because right it was the dish?
First it was I thought they had like four new
I know, I had like untitled project, but I thought
it was something else and I thought it was a
dish and it was disclosure. But now it's disclosure day. Hey,
do you think there's any chance that this disclosure day
is a self sequel or anything to cross over with
close encounters of their kind? Even if it does, even
if it Islash does, I don't think they would advertise it.
But I would love if they just connected in some
of the ways or be completely fine with having no connection.
I'm of I'm of too much. I think what you
have to do in that situation, because I just feel
like if it was connected in a big way, it
would be fun for them not to show that. But
in this day and age, you should show that, right,
especially with this one probably gonna have a bigger budget.
I imagine it's not like what was the budget for Split? Right?
Like Split? Because o'l see that was I think that's
probably the last time, maybe if anyone in the chat
can tell me, fuck what a profit? Budget? Nine million
dollars box office two hundred and seventy eight My god,
they're just laughing with that one, right, And then what
did they with Glass? Even? I know that was like
did lesser than Split? But what did that do?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: Dude? Whatever? I remember people like I guess people thought
it was gonna be bigger. It did do lesser than
Slip It still budget twenty million, box office two hundred
and forty seven million. They were laughing with that one, right.
And I'm a fan of Glass, I'm a defender. I
don't care. So that's the last time I can think
of a big, bigger movie franchise where there was a
connection that wasn't advertised right and came in at the end.
I think with that you can take a bigger risk
cause nine million dollars whatever? Right, I doubt the Disclosure
Day budget is out there right Disclosure Day. People don't
know what Spielberg's ali movie. I'm gonna talk to the
trailer in a second.
Speaker 3: Let's see here, is there any budget or rumor of
a budget even Let's see now, I.
Speaker 2: Got the budget for the nineteen ninety four movie, which
was fifty five million dollars. Yikes, how was that? Demi
Moore and Michael Douglass cost a lot back then? Right now,
there's nothing, so it's kind of hard to see what
that would be. So that's where if I'm assuming it
is a bigger budget. If that is the case in
this day and age of how things aren't doing that well,
like don't for there's always two minds me right, Clay
film fan, don't say anything having fun surprise absolutely right,
Just thinking about like when we look at the box
office and everything like that. As far as what it
means for the sex success of a movie in Spielberg,
it would kind of be negligent if you were connected
to Close Account of the Third Kinds in a big
way and didn't advertise, because you would at least sell
one ticket. I don't know how many, but you would
at least sell one ticket if it was the sequel
to the Close to Right, So as far as what
they should do if it's big connected, then they should
do that. If they don't, that's great. If it's like
little connections, then they don't need to, right, Like obviously
Split was a big set up to what was gonna happen.
If it's just in that universe, but it's not, there's
no returning characters or not even an illusions just like
it could be even then, No, you don't need to
advertise that, And I don't have any preference. I've not
seen in a long time. I need to rewatch because
I remember thinking that movie was great. I remember my
dad showed me it and I was just like in awe.
The first time I saw it was like when I
was young enough too. So I'm not saying I wouldn't
been on now, but I just meant you had that
childlike wonder, right so, because I just feel like you
could even hit those music notes, I don't know, uh,
but should it be? I don't think I care really obviously,
I just want the movie to be great. As I've
said this before, I don't think i'd have to look.
I don't think last time for me, Spielberg made a
great movie, and to be a great movie is like
eight out of ten on a enjoyment scale, I think
there's stuff that like technically Fables Men is yes, an
eight out of ten on a technical level. I'm talking
about for the things I enjoy favorite enjoyment level of watching.
I've not gone to eight at ten from Spielberg since
War of the World's Right. But in that same time,
I don't think he's made a bad movie. I think
all of them were technically great, and again I would
not like I just think it's a way of SATs.
People still get very excited. I'm excited because I want
to get that wonder but with Ready Player one or
bfgus hoping that would happen and it didn't, really right.
I think the closest you could say, again it's more
on a technical level that's well made is like Lincoln.
I'd say, oh, that was really great. But I I
guess for me, I just want it to be great.
I want to be eight and a ten above for me.
And if it's connected, it doesn't really matter for me
as long as it's good. If it's bad, then yet
don't connect it. So I don't have a preference, do
I think? So I did the business side, I did
the personal side. Now do it just have like prediction
side of what I like. It's tough because like at
first when this was rumored, myself and I think a
lot of other people were worried because there was a
description on this movie and it did sound like the
Post but with alien documents, right, And that's a huge
thing happening right now in media in the world is
alien documents coming out UFOs they call them something else, right,
like all the stuff that being real, like little proof
of Oh, the aliens are real, spacecrafts are real. Here
it is, and us in society not care because there's
so much going on. But literally this proof of there
things are going on, right, which I always thought me
and talk about like creatures and bigfoots and ghosts. I'm
always iffy on some of that stuff. The aliens always
we're too big of a universe, has to be true, right,
So for me, when it was hey, this is a
very more political, almost Oscar Baby, very serious look at
an alien movie, of like, this is what happened, this
is the aliens we found, not like almost not an
adventure alien movie, then I'd say, no, it wouldn't be
the fact that it's looking more. I'm gonna say, fantastical.
It might not even be considering what we learn right.
But I'm just saying from a a more sci fi
point of view, it's tough to it's tough not to
think that right because it just feels like you're in
that same wheelhouse. So you know what, At first, I
was gonna say no, Clay, but I'm gonna say yes.
And I'm saying yes to that. I'm saying yes to
this trade. This trail looked great. As I said before,
I think there's other traders that look great with Spielberg,
and I've been very excited and I've never been like
fully let down. It's just a letdown of Spielberg's created
many movies that, to me, are you know, near perfect.
You know the biggest example, look at draftsa Park that
has the movie. Someone will say this is the greatest
movie made of all time. I would never debate you.
There's some takes you could say I might push back
that I couldn't. I'm somebody that I think, yeah, I
think I'd give it a ten to ten or at
least a nine. I fucking love hook. When I grew
up and saw the ron Ta Mao's score and found
that other people did not enjoy Hook. I was craze
like me and Aily are both like what like in
our generation when we grew up, Hook was just like
a great movie. So like I love Spielberg, I just
haven't loved this and even more in the worlds I
really enjoyed, but I don't think I love it right.
I'd have to go back and watch it like the
last movie, because I like love was probably Minority Report.
But I need to go and do like a big
rewatch of a lot of these Spielberg classics and even
some of the newer stuff again. And except there's a
couple like the Posts that I probably won't and or
like West Side Story, I'm not I'm not doing that right,
don't do this as well, says I'm I'm living these
Hook quotes to use out of context on the gimmick.
Oh man, there's a rest of the name Hook, and
they used to chant Hook. I used to be, I
won't say, a big fan, but a big supporter of Hook.
Not so much now days. And that did nothing wrong,
just hasn't grown in his town. With this trailer, this
was great. I was excited. I forgot some of the
people in this cast like having called Firth and there
is fantastic calling for somebody that anytime you add to
a project, it goes up. I think what you always
need a great trailer is some sort of hook, especially nowadays,
right with so many movies, so many content shows, movies
streaming all the stuff. Right that moment when Emily Blunt
is doing the newcaster thing and it's like and it's
like the alien voice coming through right there. That's that's
the rock chills like and hopefully the movie can have
more of that, But that was like, okay. Nowadays in
a trailer you need something to stand out, right, That's
something where I saw something some trending tweet a couple
days ago where they're because I watched I watched The Keeper.
I was a good Perkins keeper, great visuals, some great visuals,
really good like scary mood setting. Movie itself was not
was not for me. It was some of like other
Osgod Perkins stuff that just wasn't working for me. But
people were looking at Long Legs to Monkey, to Keeper
and the box office talk about right, and even with Monkey,
I didn't love that movie, but I know lots of
people that really enjoyed it or loved it, right, so
you would say you should think that the guy who
did Long Legs that was a big hit that people
really enjoyed, and that did Monkeys should do a little
bit better. But it was like, I think Long Legs
was like what, I'll just round up, but I think
it was like one eighty. The monkey was like one
forty to one sixty, and then the keeper's like five million,
and people like, what happened? What's this fall off? It
needs to be studied? Da da da da. The thing
is Long Legs had a great trailer, had a great hook,
like it had multiple hooks. But that's the thing. You
either have to cut a really good trailer just sticks
with you, or you need that great hook. Weapons had
that great hook of all these kids go and that's
just the plot of role, right, But you have to
still portray that in the trailer because some movies do
that where they even have a great hook, but they
hold it back too much, and you know, oh, that's
what this movie was about. You probably should have advertised
a bit more, but it's stuff because you want to
protect the secret, right weapons kids go missing at the
same time in one class, and they showed that running thing,
same thing that hook the kids running, you know, you
got them. I don't know if it can be like that,
but to me that mo Emily Blunt, that is a
that is a hook moment. So great cast some you know,
appearing to be good visuals going on. There's an aspect
of animals being connected to this, and I'm not sure
if that's how aliens are speaking through them and they
can sense them.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: This was looking good for me. I am excited for
this project. I'm excited and I hope Spielberg can make
something for me that I absolutely love again. So yeah,
I and the This is why I just feel a
little bit different. I just feel like I've not been
this excited for Spielberg project in quite a while. Even
that poster that they did at New York Times of
the all will be disclosed and it's like the zoom's
on a person's face, but it's their eye, but they're
very pale or white, so I'm not sure if it's
a person or an alien. They're looking like fucking what's
his name? Oh God, I butchered the joke. They're looking
at Ray Fines and twenty eight years later and then
it's like now, the State of the Bird. There's a
lot of interesting elements that could come together now and
the script they all are in the trailer. It's like
directed by Spielberg, written by David Kepp. I saw a
Jurassic World that doesn't mean what it used to, right.
It's great to have that pairing back together, But I'm
not one hundred percent locked in as far as this
is gonna be an A A ten or I'm gonna
really enjoy it, right I'm thinking I'm going to. I
think this is a good start. I think all the
marketing has been very good so far, so I'm very excited.
I hope it's something good. I don't know if it's
like because obviously might ask me this, and people have
been sharing them and I walked to wait to see
what we do that. So I don't know if it's
in my top ten for most anticipate, because next year
there's tons of stuff coming out, just tons of stuff.
But so far, so good. I think it's I think
it's looking really really good so so far, so yeah,
I'm I'm excited. I can't wait. I'll be there. There'll
be a review, so look out for that right now
as well. This came out this morning. Netflix is supposedly
gonna be securing at least their bid portion of Warner
Brothers Warner Brothers has I'll bring up the quote they are,
I guess not not going with the uh with the
old chaps there at Paramount. There's a lot of stuff there,
a lot of reports not getting get into it. And
because the next time to we're gonna talk about this
is when it goes through, which could be. I think
they said like late Q three next year. Right, but
let's see one of those discoveries. Planning to reject paramoun
sky bid stance of one hundred and eight billion, hostiles
take over bid, the board views it's eight hundred or sorry,
eighty three billion together, will Netflix disappear offering better overall value,
greater certainty, and stronger terms for the shareholders? Now, this
is something I don't know, and this is something I'm
just completely blank on. Someone could tell me. At times
I thought if you were to buy company, those shares
gonna go in and get paid out for them. This
kind of still sounds like shareholders will be around and
having some stocks and Netflix and they're just getting money
for that. I'm not sure either way, I said what
I said a couple of weeks ago, right where if
it's just gonna come down to money, then why would
you take this bid? But if there's more on stake
for Zazof and the board people, and they do think
Netflix is a better option to go with. And plus
there was some rumors that once they found out that
the Saudy thing was involved, apparently there was some like, well,
I don't know if we want to sell here, right,
which I appreciate. I'm not gonna make a blanket, same
on everyone in that country. It's just as I've talked
about before. Ww I've seen we've all seen some very
shady stuff go down. It's like, ah, I don't love
of my favorite characters being connected to that brand and
people that have jobs connected that brand. Who knows what
could happen? Right? So now I think the way that
it's gonna happen, they're gonna turn this down. I think
the only way that could go through now is if
they were to buy like I think it was ninety
percent of the shares, to hold some sort of really
hostile bit takeover. I don't know. So it looks like
it's not happening from that perspective. Now we have to
wait to see if they'll get approved and everything, but
I honestly think they will. We've heard this before with
Disney and Xbox. We've heard this or not Disney in Xbox. No,
we've heard this before with Disney and Fox, with Xbox
and Blizzard, Xbox and XI Vision. This happens, and I'm
gonna cry, as found a Walt, It's gonna have to
get approved, blah blah blah. It's not only it used
to be. These things just get approved, right. So I
really think as of right now, it looks like it's
gonna happen. And as I've said before, I wish WB
stayed by themselves. This is I was pulling for Netflix
a bit more than Paramount because of the base of
the past things where because I don't be able made
the argument and this is a much bigger thing for Americans, right,
So a little poitical, but I don't think it's too political.
Whether you're rare or left. People's big concern where Hey,
if they get those broadcast networks and the news networks, Uh,
they're gonna do X, Y and Z with it and
be very political leading to the right, right and I'll
say too far to the right. Right. As I said before,
I got friends and left friends and right, but I
think we can both agree which other side you are.
There are two like there, you can go too far
on either way right, And I think people were worried
that's what they're gonna do with these networks and have
a lot of control over them. And then I saw
the pushback from some people go, well, it doesn't even
matter because if they don't get WB, they can just
buy that layer on the split up, like the movie side, right.
And I'm like, okay, So either you're telling me, let's
say this is true. We don't even know Paramount could
have got this and be like, hey, we're not gonna
actually go that far right. We're gonna that might be
what people think, but we're gonna keep it this way
for me. If it is, let's say they are gonna
go super alt right on media all this type of stuff,
very raw, raw, republican and certain things. Right. So the
scenarios you're telling me are Paramount buys the movies and
the news and does that, or Paramount can only buy
the news and does that. Doesn't affect me as much
because I'm in canda that it's not my news. But
if you were on that side where it effects and
you're like, well, doesn't matter. The biggest concern is what
they're gonna do with the news. Well, it sounds like
they could already get the news next year, right. If
that's the big thing where it's like they'd be locked
on getting seen in and all that stuff, then sure
I'd rather not have the movie studio. So that our
argument never made sense to me, like, well, what they
really want is to broadcast things, We'll let them have it.
If they're gonna get no matter what, then why are
they gonna take our movies down with us too? Right?
Like so I didn't understand that stuff there. So Sbox says,
seems like there's more upfront money with Paramount, but possible
more money over time with Netflix. I would not disagree
with that as somebody that I said when the podcast started,
I thought Netflix was gonna go under or take a
big hit, and it didn't really And then also with
Covid Strike a little bit, with Covid grew. Netflix is
here to stay. Netflix is here to run things. So
I would like take everything politically theoris wise. If you
were saying Hey, what do you think is gonna be
more successful brand going forward? Netflix is the one, like,
look at what they've done, right, and they continue to
do so. And there's just lots of stuff we've taught before,
like the PGA or the WGA and DJA. Just if
they threaten out to make movies, there's always somebody that's
gonna do that. Right. Sure, in my life, would I
love to have a GV movie get ball and play theatrically, Sure,
but if someone also writing me a big check and
say hey we good buyas and get you on the map,
lots of people are gonna do that. Because there's so
much there's so many ways to be out there. It
makes it a bit tougher now, right. So that's where
we people. I know there's like, oh, like, I think
there's some quote going background with Christopher Nolan ever working
with them. Don't get me wrong. Nolan's the guy. He's
my fair guy, might be the greatest of all time.
They will find somebody. I'm not saying they'll find something
like Nolan, but they'll find somebody will still attract people, right,
So yeah, I think that is the better way. Speaking
of Nolan, speaking of man I said this in the discord,
which you go down discord, be good, that link should
be good. Check because I know we've had a couple
of people joined this week after being like, oh, that
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So join. We have tons of fun discussion, talk about
the shows, video games, wrestling, and then just overall stuff.
Today it was now starting twenty twenty nine, the oscars
are going to stream exclusively on YouTube. I feel like
old Hollywood and people that loved old Hollywood growing up
getting in the business. This past two weeks of Disney,
you know, sign this big AI contract and other stuff happening.
So you got Ai just starting to infiltrate Hollywood. He
got Netflix buying Warner Brothers, which I've agreed with that.
They say, oh, we're gonna keep theatrical. We don't know that,
we don't know how long. And there's a good chance
that they cut all that. So a lot of these
theatrical things are gonna die and it's all Netflix, right,
and now Oscar's on YouTube. Listen. I don't think there's
anything wrong with YouTube. It is a whole different medium. Right.
People have literally become billionaire billionaires all that. I'm very
happy that I can host our service. Their news algorithms
stuff like that are pain in the ass. Had I
had to recreate the geek for Studios YouTube channel. I
was so annoyed when we post that it must just
got a bug with it and did well. But we
posted the first Adrenochrome teaser trailer was like sixteen k
I guarantee there was some sort of I worded it
write or it's just a great timing and it got
in some like loop for core trailer or something like that. Right,
but like, okay, good eyes were there. But then it's
because of a certain literally they said, because of this
frame and the trailer, you're promoting bowling and anti hate
or like hate and anti this. It was a picture
of me in front of a fucking tree, and I screenshot.
I went to YouTube help, but because YouTube help was
just a bunch of bots, they couldn't help and didn't
and we lost a channel. It was so annoying. So
it is not a perfect system, but they've created many people.
There's ways to do things to be successful. And I'm
very happy that you we have YouTube because it stores
a lot of our content. I'm happy. We can go
live right, and I have the chat all that stuff.
I'm not trying to speak like they're gonna shut us down,
but I just mean like it's a great system. I
don't necessarily have a problem with this, but I can
see a lot of like to me, This, to me
is a blanket statement for many people. Might not be
for you listening, might not be for anybody out there,
might not be for people in the industry. There are people,
and I think andros a main them that will not
like this because I think it does, in a sense
for them, make it less God prestigious lost that word
for a second. For me. The reason I'm for this
and I'm it doesn't matter like where it is. I'm
not like raw raw YouTube ra raw NBC. I'm watching
the Oscars no matter what. Sure, their importance of lesson
a little bit because some of the things we've learned
over the years and some of the politics of it.
But I enjoy the show. I enjoy the speeches, enjoy
people getting rewarded for the work and achieving that right.
And obviously in that business it means something when you
win it. You get to get more money, producer credits,
you get that Academy ward winning, all that stuff. We've
seen why it matters, right, it can kickstart a career.
Sometimes it doesn't. All we've heard multiple oscararers these past
few years. But yeah, I want an Oscar and got
really no projects or I just got offered the same
thing over and over again, right as Sopo says, Now
it's sign of the game words and Oscar ratings. And
that's to my point, s Bubbs. Is why I think
YouTube or streaming is good is because a lot of
people I've not had cable in at least over ten years, right,
I always gotta find some kabuki way or a subscription
service like a YouTube TV or something to watch that Oscars, right,
and then I'll cancel it right after. And that's because
I'm a fan. There's lots of people that might go, oh,
the Oscars are on. Let's just say ABC plus. I
know it's not a thing or Disney Plus, right, and
if they don't have I gotta pay that. I don't
really want to take enough streaming service, or oh I
gotta get that Kail package. I don't really want to.
It's a pro ando con because you might have people
that tune out or only watch a little bit of it,
but if it is on YouTube, it's easily to click there.
If this is on YouTube, which I guess it is,
they need to make it like opening and when that
thing's on, not just like a tab. They should go
all out and like you are not gonna miss it,
the same way as like when Netflix with trainer things
was back, you don't miss it. Where there is some
things that are exclusive Netflix, it's the launch day and
it's I had to literally search the search bar, So
they should do that. But that's where for me it's
to survive. This is the way that we'll get more
eyes on the academies. Now Chat's gonna be restricted, absolutely,
Chat's gonna be retrict. They shoud probably just turn it off
to be honest. But that's where I feel like a
lot of people that grew up where For example, right
Jennifer Anston, I think it was a couple months ago,
she made some statement that people got mad about. I
don't really care because like, I love friends, I love
Jennifer Aniston in that sense, but I'm like, I don't
care about Jennifer Anson's appews on like our views on
like social media and whatnot. But her and then why
I know a lot of people probably think like that's
when Hey, it's she just feels like being a star
is lesser than now because there's just so many ways
that anybody could be a star. Right, you could open
up your phone, run into traffic, and now you're a
star now right Where she's trying to make the case
of you had to work harder. I think there's some
of that. There's some of the things she's saying is right,
but then there's other wise where all of those people
who content creators are grinding even more than people that
are acting right. So there's an argument there's bad ways
good ways with both of them. But I think there's
a lot of people that I'll view YouTube as the
Oh people doing reaction videos, Oh people doing stupid videos,
Oh people reacting to breakups or dumb news are all
very just like me, me stuff. They will look at
this and go, man, the oscars are on that platform. Now.
Really to me, those people just go look at as
the oscars or the oscars, the ceremony, ceremony. You're in
the fucking door with all these celebrities and rich and
famous people. You get a ward, you get nominated, that's
where it is. But there will be people like Gough
YouTube it's not what it used to be, right, And
I'm not saying there's like they can't and now feel
like that there's still an argument there because that's the
thing where I feel like now the oscars go from
almost you have to like they they are made less
important because if it's almost less important in appointment viewing,
like I said, where I gotta have cable, I gotta
get YouTube TV, I gotta actively pay for it, where
unless they're gonna charge, which I don't think they were,
this can just pop up while you're watching funny cat videos. Right,
it just becomes another thing. But at the same time,
I think that still can get more more eyes on it, right,
I think more people will watch it, So it's a
catch twenty two. Will the people watch that you care?
I don't know. But at the same point, what's better
people watching it on YouTube or the rains to continue
to decline and then the ostrich just don't exist in
that way, right, So we'll see how it goes, see
how people feel about that, But I think it kind
of it makes sense. So stream Mike says it will
help them in terms of content creators being able to
sign cast and reacting without network's operating short. Absolutely, even
though I'm sure lots of people people will will hate
that type of content. Right, Sorry, I'm really like dry
mouth to end now. Please don't beget sick trass. But
and that's the other thing too, I say, all right
with the game words for this is the Oscars. I
do wonder if we could get ever in a state
where I do think this would make them big. As
much as there's argument against the game awards and how
they kind of stifle and sometimes the awards aren't the
most important, if you were to start doing that stuff
for the Oscars, start showing trailers on commercial breaks for
big stuff, like for big things like imagine they're saying, hey,
even know it's the Oscars, like First Avengers, Doomsday, it's
gonna be played during the Oscars. You get those ratings, right,
So to me, there is a good method of what
Jeff does. I think sometimes the bounces off, but you
could see something like that. So we'll see and then
so finally, before we get to the Spider Man stuff,
so anyone's watching the Spider Man stuff, we're doing this
last story and then we're moving on. So let me
just take a look here, just make sure I didn't
miss anything to let's see. So, so there's two Scrooge
Christmas Carol. I said before I watch Christmas Carol. I'm
in the middle of watching the fifty one version. My
favorite Christmas Carrol to me is one of the the
greatest stories of all time, if not the greatest. I
love that tale. I can watch all versions. So we
got Robert Eggers eventually making his can't wait for that.
And then we got Ty West, who did the Pearl
X trilogy right now, he's doing it with I didn't
even know this, but he's doing a giant Depp that's
obviously controversial, especially that story kind of fits it. But
he's doing the joint Depp. And I didn't know that
tremill Tramail Tillman was in it, and Ian mccollner members
in it. But they've added a few people. They've added
Sam Claflin, Rupert Grint, and Daisy Ridley. So austly Daisy
Ridley's work with jointed Depp before in the murdray Or
Experence thing, right, and I was not that Daisy Ridley
is like a massive star, but she still has like
Star Wars on the come up here right she spoke maybe,
but she's supposed to be doing the Ray film. I
ty West doing a Scrooge movie, you know, a Christmas
Carol movie. It's apparently called Evaneezer. That really entices me.
The giant Depp thing, No, not sure how I feel
about that because I've not had to consume any of
his content. Right, I will watch this because I think
there's enough stuff that for me, it seems like it
was a bad situation all around. I want to see
ty West's work, but I completely understand someone doesn't. And
people like Daisy Ridley working with ty West that excites me.
That's exciting choice. I'm interested on for her making that choice.
And this definitely feels like if Joined Up is gonna
make a comeback. This is how you do it right.
You're kind of doing a story that our imitates life,
and you have people like Rupert Grant, Daisy Ridley, Ian
McKell and Tremill Tilman that are a bit more in
the mainstream. And it's not like Kevin Spacey when he's
making films in France or something. And it's a bunch
of people you never heard her, right, you kind of go, well,
I could understand that actor of trying to get some
publicity being a big project, because I'll be watched by
people that are interested in Kim Spacey's sure, I'll do
this with this though. It's gonna be a North American film,
and it's gonna be interesting to see, you know, people
the reaction to this, right, and also it's gonna help
to see what happens with Pirates and everything. It's kind
of what I talk about Brenton Frasier or I with
the Macaulay Culkin with our Fault review. It's like it
seems like a lot of times they do one big
thing and then go to the old ip. I could
see this working out and then Pirates five happening, right,
So on just the call sheet, I like the idea.
I like the cast gonna be a really interesting thing.
I'm definitely interested in the Agger's version because I you know,
I love what he does, and I think after nos Farati,
that's kind of like a perfect fit. And Dafoe, like,
don't get me wrong, Johnny Up can be a great actor,
but Dafoe is Scrooge. Come on, now, that's a that's
a generational performance there right now, so or it could be.
At least I think it will be. But all right,
so just like last time, we uh, I was gonna say,
we are going to talk about the leaks here and
then I'll give you a warning when I'm going to
full spoilers. I don't think there's too much spoil but
I will give you for if you're not seeing the leak,
So you gonna take a water break at break, be
right back. So uh, kind of crazy the week that
Marvel's happening here. So obviously we talked about on Monday
the Captain Mary da I will let it some stuff
out live people. I'm sorry if we heard anything. The
teaser trailer for Avengers dropped. I'm sure people know stuff.
But still the teaser trailer dropped for Avengers one, and
then in a couple of weeks from now, the second
one is gonna come out. Uh, the audio of that leaked,
not the video, but the audio. I was surprised. The
video is not leaked yet, but it is there. And
people have said that, you know, with the first one,
I don't even think they were intentional. I could just
believe that. Okay, first teasers out there going to record,
let's get what's happening. I could see why the teaser
two that might be a bit more of an annoyance, right,
So that happened after the fact. Apparently there was like
a minute minor leak of Manlor and Grogu. But I
don't think many people cared because I don't think the
hypes there for that movie. But then the bigger one
that happened yesterday was the brand New Day trailer. So
and I will talk about specifics, but we've been here
before multiple times Austie specifically specifically with No Way Home.
I guess Spider Man three and Amazing Spider Man two
had also had leaks. I wasn't you know, in touch
at that point. But so this leak happened. I saw it.
It's a classic computer monitor, so it's film at bad
quality and it's like on a diagonal angle. Right. So
obviously nowadays with fake trailers and AI, all that happens
or like all that is possibility. But when I saw it,
I was like, this is a real Like I still
feel like I got enough. I thinelk with certain photos
or quick IM interesting, like oh is this AI? Is
this not but with this, I went, eh, I think
this one so uh as possible. I saw the trailer,
but I still don't know who say you think it
is supposed to be? Uh? Since it's blurry. It's interesting
because at first it was, Hey, it's definitely this character,
but then a bunch of scooper said that, actually, we
think Marvel's putting out fake info, and it's this trailer
adds a misdirect. So now like that's why I put
a question mark. At first yesterday it was like, oh,
it's definitely this character, and now it looks like, actually
it might not be. And then when people come in
their points and then what happens the full trailer came out,
it's like, oh, actually, maybe she might not be that character.
So we still don't know, but we'll talk about the possibilities. Right,
Let's see a lot of people still think it's fake
because how bad the dialogue was. Well, one, it's like
MCU can have some bad dialogue, so it doesn't surprise me.
And two I didn't think, like, I'll just say there
is a narration from Peter Parker and the trailer. I
liked all that it's on the villain stuff and everything
I need to hear clearer, but like I feel a
lot of dialogue trailer like to me, it felt like
trailer dialogue where it's we take snippets from the movies
or a little you know, or just have someone do
an ad artic try to get a point, a get
a cross point in the trailer. There is times where
there might be some sort of line in a scene,
go oh that that was really bad. But I feel
like when it's kind of more narration, you're not seeing
the trailer or the person speak, I kind of give
that a give that a pass, right, so as ephoasays.
I saw people point out how there was a leaked
Minecraft Tai this year where the footage was all the
exact simes the official release, but all the dialogue was placeholder.
Absolutely right, and that could be it as well. Like
the dialogue, I don't think it raised any many red
flags to me. But what happened was, so I see
this because I fall a couple of counts. I see
this go out there. I was watching the first forty
three seconds, the first it was forty three seconds, and
then the full trailer came out with the audio, and
then the full trailer came out a little bit later.
But when I saw it, I was like the top
like it was blurry, but with the dialogue, with the
talking with what they're showing, is like, this doesn't look
like And I think that's the one thing now that
AI people are they're gonna have to screw up on now,
right because before it was oh, the AI looks bad,
we can tell it's AI. But now it's almost going
to that point where it looks too good, and if
it looks too good, people suss out go, oh yeah,
that is AI. They now got to find the right
balance of making AI that looks good and real but
then also shitty like a leak cam quality thing. And
even then I saw one yesterday of like two people
talking the Doomstay trail and their faces are going crazy.
So there was enough for like, I think it's real.
I go on my timeline a while of people saying,
oh a, I slop its fakes. It's like okay, and
I didn't share anything yet to qua or the discord
is like, Okay, I'm gonna wait because if it's not that,
then okay, we'll see. But then there is the same
people that said all it is that obviously they went
to go talk to somebody and they're, uh, oh, I
think I was wrong. All this looks real, And that's
what happened. The full trailer leaked. Now we don't know
there was somebody that put out that. A lot of
times when trailers are ready at this point around like that,
where it's not gonna release, it means they are working
on for a soon release, meaning they meant like that
doesn't mean it's coming with Avatar, but that means soume
whether it's December or even Super Bowl time, which Super
Bowl could be. I can't remember what Sony's done recently
at the Super Bowl for their ads. But then what
came out well was there's rumors that Spider Man might
be attached to Anaconda. So I guess that is a
situation right where it doesn't matter now, But that is
a situation where I made the argument that, hey, attaching
the Avengers trailers Avatar is not to boost up Avatar.
It's to boost up Avengers. So people can see Avatar,
which could be one of the most watched movies of
all time again for a third time, and they go, oh,
there's an Avengers trailer coming up. Oh, this character is
in it. That makes sense. That still makes sense to Spiremen,
but it does make sense for I don't know, if
you're going to see Anaconda, well let's do this exclusive
trailer and get people to go see anaconda. That makes sense,
even though we still get the same leaks. But at
the same point, I still go, hey, get that trailer
on Avatar. They get in front of all the people.
I understand what they're doing. But if this trailer is
real and this is where we will, I'll just say
before we close out crazy this is going on people.
I'm sure Marvel aren't happy and Marvel Sony to have
Avenger trailer one two and then inspier Men, and then
there was rumors of the third one maybe leaking. We
don't know there is. It's kind of stuff out there
about what it is about, and it doesn't seem like
it was accurate. Last week. We'll see there's somebody hinting
around Christmas week they're gonna release some stuff and they're
the people that release the other stuff. So be careful there.
You Twitter people go on speed for what you're doing.
I know understand if you aren't watching the leaks, I
understand that for me, I not like, doesn't really bug
me per se. It's just a trailer. We're gonna see it.
But uh yeah, I I don't know. It's interesting what's
happening over there, and a lot of stuff's going, but
I don't I don't think it's hurt in them. I've
seen people made that case. I'll say the same thing
on the Money episode. I don't think it's gonna hurt
these movies. So I'm going to talk about the trailer now.
So if you have no interest in hearing anything about
any leaks anything like that, now is your time to
tune out. Very much. Thank you for tuning in. Fortress
told you. I'm going to take another water break, and
then when the tongue is wet, I'll be back to
talk about trailers. I was gonna say the tongue is
always wet, but sometimes it's not right dry up. So
do you ever do this, kid, so you're tongue in
front of a fan? Just feel it? Fucking feels weird, man,
feels weird. Try if you've never done it, it's never
too late. So trailer, if this trailer is real, I've
never heard the song before this like a New York
I Love You's by like LCD Sounds Is or something
fuck great great. I love the song I listened to
after great Use, and that's where to me there was
just little things of the title card at the end
looking good. That song where just I could be wrong,
but I think most of time when we get fake trailers,
it's like generic, you know, go upon five, download some
rock music, reaction music, or trailer music. This song choice, Now,
I know it's a different director and probably different writers
and team, but that song choice felt very much in
touch with the first two trailers for for Far From Home,
but especially No Way Home when they use that Oh god,
what is that? Ah, I'm forgetting the band's name, but
you guys know it was that. I'm forgetting it right,
But it just felt very much in tune with that.
I remember when I heard that song choice, someone in
the chat, please tell me the song and the first
Spider Man Homecoming trait. It's gonna bug me. Great song.
They used it in for Fine of Express as well,
like great song, and it's like right away set the tone,
that set the tone. Especially it's called New York I
Love You and it's like but you're you're, you're dragging
me down and you're holding like you're making pretty much
just making me sad. That's Peter Parker's life. Loves New York,
but a lot of shit's going on. So the it
just felt like, and maybe it comes out it's fake,
but this okase same writers, which there's like what twenty
of them, but like, uh, it just felt right with
where we're going. Someone gets says up. But it just
felt like this is a movie trailer song selection by
the team. I don't know why. I can't explain. It
just felt like it fit right and I loved the narration. Again,
I'm just gonna say this is all real, because they
that's any thing forgot. They struck all these trailers down,
so this shit at least a version of it's real. Right,
great idea as far as hey, I'm Spiderman. I'm not
sure if you remember me, but I did this and
I'm saying it in a very light shit be like, oh,
I'm Peter bri No, it's his narration is not solemn
but has moments of that and just very just kind
of I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm Spider Man. I'm
just trying my best to protective City. It sounds like
fucking Spider Man, and man, I don't know if they'll
do it, only too surprising. Well is there, though, Mike,
Because I feel like maybe it's the script or the
story by because I remember when No Way Home, and
I feel like this happened each time where it's like
when they're like written or maybe I'm just saying homecoming.
Maybe that's it because Homing Me had like six writers.
But I thought this was one of those where there's
a lot of people there there feeding the fire there.
But maybe you're right. Maybe I'm just thinking you have
homecoming because that probably did change a lot of hands.
But it just sounded like what Spearman should and I
don't know if they would, I would fucking love it.
That's one of my only negatives about The Batman is
the narrations so good? Do more of in The Batman two?
If we got moments of him narrowing the movie? Hell? Yeah,
Like that's obviously a combook trope that characters do all
the time, right because from their perspective, But if you
were to talk about that, yes, more of that. Yes.
The biggest thing is there's a lot of things in
here that aren't completely done with Chris McKenna and Wick Summers. Okay,
there you go, Thank you, Mike. There's a lot of
stuff that they still gotta spruce up, probably, but there's son.
There's some unfinished FX shots. There's even one where people
saw where there's webs shooting and he doesn't have their
organic web shooters. There's two things with that. Either that's
a situation where okay, we gotta add that in post
that's coming, or some people theorize what if that's why
they gave him massive web shooters in this one, so
when he somehow gets the organic web it feels like
a bigger deal. I'm fine with either way. I like
the organic web shooters. I don't have a problem. I
get it from a scientific point of view. It makes
Peter smarter, like, oh, I create this. But I also
like it because we get to lose the trope of
oh my god, I'm in peril. My web shooters are
broken when that happens. Man, that happens so much, especially
the animated show. Any there's peril, someone's getting Eric Summers
every go. I was like Wick Summers, Rick Summers, what
a name with a W. But I'm happy with that
Trope to go away. But it's fine there because I
like the webshooters. But with this there was multiple shots.
There was there was the classic very first image of
Spider Man cover of him doing the web and holding
the bad guy. There was one of my favorite, probably
my favorite cover is the first cover for the Ultimate
Spider Man number one. I love Ultimate Spider Man, and
that was on there. And then there was another one.
We had already seen this before with the dop and
with him, and there have been rumors about that too.
It's like they're trying to make I can't say comacer
but very comic book Lord loved, and I think that's
a big thing because I really enjoyed that trilogy, knowing
Home being my favorite. But I do get the point.
I'm not saying they got a bag on the guy, right.
But it was a couple months go when The Web
Slaying came out. I remember all my timeline was quotes
from John Wats being like, well, I'm not gonna do
the practical webshooting because of our web swing because it
looks bad. It just can't look good, right, which I
pushed back on. But I'm also not gonna sit here
and just dunk on the guy, all of them, because
I just we talk about on Monday. Check what you're
doing in life. If it's for fun, that's fine. But
there's some people that make their whole personality to hate,
you know, a certain thing or John Watsher like oh
thank god, Like hey, if Dustin Daniel Crientton does the
most combook accurate live actions Asperimen, that's great. I'm very
happy as a fan. That also doesn't make me like
get out of bed as far as like this made
my day completely better. It's fun, of course, and always
enjoy a little things. I'm not saying that. I'm saying
the people that like their enjoyment livelihood depends on who's
directness movie in the style they give to it. You know,
I'm past that. I think a lot of us are
too right. So that's where people don't I'm sure do whatever.
But if they can do that, bravo. And they can
do something very special, if they could do stuff like
like recreate the covers. Sure it's easy, but like it's easy,
why don't want people do it? Like? And that's one
thing credit Zach Snayer. That's one of the things where
don't love a lot of the stories of those movies,
but visually and some of those Easter eggs and illusions
he would make are great, Like he does the fucking
Dark Knight returns jump with the Lightning boltwon BVS. Like
that's what makes it go down easier. Like, Hey, I'm
not loving this choice, but damn it looks good. And
don't get me wrong, BVS. For me, I passed all
this stuff right, But I'm just saying like it doesn't
hurt it right, So visually that's great. We did look
like we got confirmation of the hand being in this.
We'd heard rumors about this, but we saw a bunch
of red Ninjas. Again, it feels odd that Matt Murdock's
not in this at all. I know we got Punisher,
but I wonder if they still work something out or
this is to set them up being in something else
down the line, which I really hope. So we need
I need more. I need not just the Matt Murdock lore.
I need the full on Daredevil Spider Man connection. We
got to see Banner in this that apparently as a
college professor, we've heard lots of rumors of him about
him being Gray Hulk DA and then the trailer ended.
We're gonna say sactry, but the trailer ended with a
bunch of shooting and then Spider be like, what are
you doing or Frank, and Frank be like, I'm here
to say if you're ass kid, and then he's like, oh,
so disrespectful already, I'm I'm ray Pinneishsurance spider Man. I'd
have to make a list because I think it's Spider
Man a lot of holy shit, look at that ol
Felfa hair got going on because the Santa hat fuck uh.
Spider Man just goes good. Because I think if I
were to do a top ten of my favorite characters,
it's combined, like do dynamics Spider Man with Frank, Spierman, Daredevil,
Spider Man, Wolverine, they might all be in there. Spider
Man and Frank is a very different dynamic, and that's
made tons of fun. I think already they're nailing it.
We'll have to see, obviously, how brutal they go with Frank.
I think that's the biggest concern people have, is Punisher fans,
including myself, because it I'd be completely fine if they did.
I was always this way, right. I disagree with people
they go, well, you can't do a Punisher in pg thirteen,
I think you can't. You can't do a Blade in
pg thirteen. I think you can if you want to
do it, are great. But to me it's like, would
I rather John Birthy'll playing the character or half be Radar? Right.
I don't know why I did that scenario, but at
one point that came up, right, But I think where
the issue is now, I guess to walk it all back.
I would have been completely fine if they said, hey,
we're bringing John Berth now back. We are doing the
jks and the things where he's playing a different version
of Ste's cannon now right, but we're doing let's say,
if they would have said, we're doing a different version,
he's gonna be more you know, Disney centric, family friendly.
But if you can still bring that performance and hit
on the themes that make punish, sure, the way is
that you can still do killing and off by Radar.
If you can do that, then I still think there's
a way you can do it. But now I think
the issue they've set it for people themselves, which maybe
it's not an issue, but they got Punisher and Daredevil,
who was even he was more brutal than he's ever been.
And then they're gonna be the Punisher special they say
this the most this most brutal he's ever been since,
like we keep ramping it up. That's where it could
be not a good transition to see Punisher and those
two things than in Spider Man, and especially more if
it's I don't think it's the violence, because to me,
you can do the same violence but cut away nothing
is bloody. If he's more quippy or lighthearted, like in
Daredevil Born Again, when Matt saw the first time, he
seemed like he was in a pretty fucking bad place
when he's in a little cave there on the beard, Like,
didn't seem like Frank was doing well, And here if
he is, it's kind of like, well, doesn't really work right.
So I understand. But I think their chemistry is gonna
be good. Obviously they've acted before, they think their chemistry
is or they screen tested or auditioned before their friends.
They're in all the odyssey together, Like I think it's
that all stuff's gonna be good. Chemistry, dynamic. It's just
a question what they do with Frank. We'll have to see.
So now with Sadie sink I'll pull up this character's name.
So that's been the big thing of who who is
she playing? Right? Is it? MJ? Is it Quinn? Is it? This?
Is it? That?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Uh two things have come in the past couple hours here, right,
or I guess a few things more than two. Ah, God, damn,
I forgot X uses their tear verbal. Oh they're terrible
fucking new chat message. Thank god, I got my mouse
plugged and hang on. So uh so this had come
out a little while back ago, right, and we had
talked about this and not being a fan of this.
Where she was rumored to be. There's a bunch rumors,
but the most recent rumor was she was rumored to
be this character called Chathra Chanthra. I don't know how
it spelt, or said, I meant to let's see where
he is it here? Chathra? Who knows anyway, So that
it sounded like it was gonna be a hybrid of
This character has a lot to do with Spider totems
and Spider Multiverse stuff like I will read this. Thank
you to mister Chris Bago, host of Marvel Line. Check
out him and David every week. Not next a little
bit because holiday, so they're gonna take some breaks. But
good guys over there despite you know, a trivia battle.
But I asked him just to give me a quick
little rundown. He says, the term spider tones, and this
is about this character Shathra, right, she's would be connected
with that. The term spider Tones refers to a class
a multiversal supernatural entities created by the Elder Goddess linked
to a mystical force called the webel life and destiny.
Let's see, I'm not gonna read all, Chris. That just
gives you a bare manrm of what that character is, right,
because we'd also heard rumors of all this character she's
playing is like a human version of the multiverse, So
excuse me, sounds like itna be something like that, right,
taking elements from Spider Man and multiverse stuff, all that stuff.
I don't like the sound of that. I will, I
will if that is the character. And that's what a
lot of people think after the trailer at first. I will,
of course wait for judgment. I don't mind those characters
in like a Watchman, where it is really Doctor Manhattan,
is this huge, massively overly god teer character that's a
massive part of the story in the sense of now,
I know some aig well say, Souscarson be a massive,
but I mean in the sense that it's just it's
not in this we're fighting Fanos doctor doom world stakes.
It is, but it's in a different You can do
that when it's on a smaller scale and a bigger thing.
Once we start getting into multiple gods, fightings, all this stuff,
it could be tricky, right, And I'm somebody that even
said before here's an example where lots of people actus.
I think it's kind of cheesy. I don't love the
idea of this world here, but I thought the f
for me, we did a pretty good job of adapting
it this year, right, So I can always be turned
around a post if it's a good adaption. Just the
idea of someone being uh, you know, do you like
the human version of the multiverse just seems like a
massive concept. That's like there's a lot of room for error.
And I think for me, when it is Watchmen or
something else, equipment to that where it's one story, this
is the story easier to work in that box. When
it's you're carrying multiple projects. It's even little stuff like
guya right, Guy Inn's Secret Invasion is supposed to be
this hugely powerful character, but now she's in no story,
she's not around for Avengers anything like that. It just
doesn't work right, So that's always the risk with that.
So so with my thing is the trailer came out
and it said something where it's like, oh, she has
this sign where it says, hey, if you do if
you get in my way, more people like something like
people are fucking butchering. It's like more than just your
friends are gonna forget that you're Peter Parker. Right, that's
the paraphrase. So a lot of people thought, Okay, she
already knows it's Peter Parker, she's connected that here we go.
But a lot of people brought up because this has
been the room that's been making a lot of rounds,
because it's been a lot of Scoopers. It was basketball
weeks that are all seat here but saying no, no, no,
like you know that report the first one of her
being Jean Gray. That's how it's gonna get to my says.
The rumors of her being Jean Gray are pretty strong.
Does that so hold true? After the trailer to me
it does because like at first I thought, okay, this
makes sense. The trailer puts her as a film the
Chathra person might know who he is because the web
of life for Spiderman totdems all this stuff. And even
then in the trailer looks like it's like a shape shifter,
like she's kind of black like you. It's very as
the trailer sucks as far as vision, but even within
the trailer you can see they're kind of masking who
the character is. You can do that with That was
the line. People called that as bad. I didn't much,
Like I didn't mind for a trailer line. To me,
it sells and I didn't mind that either, like that's
a threat, like it's gonna either you're gonna send them
into obliving and kill them. So like I can see
what people might think that it didn't bug me. But
that's the thing where at first, oh yeah, all of
a sudden the shop or stuff, But with this trailer,
technically the gene gray thing is not gone. Because that
was the first rumor, right that came out and then
a lot of people went, no, it's not that, But
then lately there's been way more people coming out and
the sea tears fear going. Hey, it sounds like no, no, no,
like I always told she's Jing Gray and she's still
dream gray. And I don't know a lot of these
people's records because there's a lot of people that, especially
with these leaks, are newer to me, So I can't
speak to them, right, I've just seen them before. They've
gone some stuff gone something wrong. I digress. Oh man,
this is what I wanna. I wanna. I don't usually
do this, but you know, let's have some funnier Captain,
Oh seven, my god, how could you talk so endlessly?
Pair it one. I don't think parents talk endlessly. I
think they have to. They have to mimic people, right, Captain,
They gotta mimic people. I don't know it's a solo episode.
I don't know if let's see if I leave, there's
no one else here, so I guess I don't know
what you would want from a solo podcast. I'm gonna
say this was probably not the channel for you, And
I'm gonna say that probably a troll and have some fun,
But at the same time, there's much better things you
can do in life. You could you control someone else.
That's gonna, you know, get really heated about it. This
isn't gonna buy me that much. Like, what what else
would you want me to do in a solo episode? Uh,
there's not wasting my time because I'm having a lot
of fun. I'm getting a gig all of it. You
are literally sitting there typing stuff. You're on your phone.
I can see, go do other stuff. Go go buy
some stocks, go do something, Go go watch a trailer.
Go uh go, I don't know, and could get dating app,
go have some fun, you know. So, but the parrot
will continue on if she's Jean Gray, the stuff of
her saying like threatening him. How many traders have we
seen where there is a hero making some sort of
threat to another hero and it's in a dramatic, villainous
type of line, right, So you could easily do that
with the dialogue they've used with jan Gray and even
her being shrouded. I know there was some rumors of
it being a shape shifter villain that could be the
villain and a misdirect or. Jean Gray where powers are
just doing telconesees and fucking with your mind, could do
that same thing. I'm just oh, I'm gonna make Peter
see this, right, So my only thing is and that's
where they've also come up. Where what is this organization? Right,
it's the do O DC. I can't remember what it is.
They're no way home, they're miss Marvel. They're pretty much
just acting as like we're rounding up munes and bad people. Right.
So two things that happened were Daniel Rpka, who I
put in the bets here currently, He had said that
and he said, there's not like it's not for sure.
I should have got the full on tweet there. But
he had said that people, let's see if I have
it and if I shared it to gua somewhere. But
he was saying that he had just heard some scuttle
butt of people of Marvel purposely putting out some fake
stuff with this movie, right, and that would make sense
as far as with and it sounds like they're especially
hitting on the shot or stuff of hey kind of
lean into that, right. So that happened, And then this
thing came out this morning from uh Cosmic something, I
can't remember what it is. I put them in the
seatier maybe a higher seatier. It's Alex from CC think
it's Cosmic Service but the room is Tremail Tillman, who
we told earlier will be the head of damage control.
Puncher will be protecting city to sink. That's the thing
that I don't know what's doesn't make sense to me,
right because people were saying, Okay, they're going after people
would just powers. They don't even know the difference between
munes all that stuff. They're just going after people with power. Okay,
I can see that that's a mix up of it.
Maybe make you think that that's not Jean Gray. It's
a villain, it's a multiverse character. But boom, it is
Jean Ray, right that part of Punisher protecting her. One,
how does he get linked with Jean Gray And why
would she need her protection other than I guess if
she's Jean Gray, who I guess doesn't have fully control
over powers. Right. Maybe it's something where she does a
little bit about it and then it loses it or
she can't control them so she's afraid to use and
to hurt people. Again, I don't know how she gets
linked up with Punisher. That's interesting, but I still hope
that is true because one, I don't need like a
big multiverse world character or whatever but two, I think
if you look on the basis of just Saycining is
Jean Gray, that's fantastic casting. I think that's a coup
for them. I think they want to with X Men,
you gotta get a lot of stars that people want
to see. I think people for multiple reasons want se
say Syink she's coming off Stranger Things. I think obviously
either if they're gonna go younger, you want to get
people that are not super expensive, So like we say,
he Sink off see Stranger Things, but she doesn't have
like an IP franchise yet, so I think she probably
cost a good amount cost what she deserves. But at
the same time, not like someone that's like a Margot
Robbie or Emm a Stone, right, like something like that,
where it's like they probably have a bigger bill because
they have Barbie and Harley Quinn or Amistone as multiple oscars.
This is Sadie Sinks still in the building phase, right,
So for me makes a lot of sense and it
would be great. So I think that's the thing where uh,
I don't think we're gonna know really till we get
closer to because eventually, probably within that six months, there
will be some Scooper test screening. Something will come out
there and it'll come out right. So do I want
to be Dreen Gray? Sure, if it's a small diverse character,
I'll give it a chance. But that's where I think
that twenty four hours was like, Oh, it's definitely this character.
And then someone come out and saying, yeah, I've heard
they're kind of put out some fake stuff and multiple supers. Yeah,
i've heard she's steal Jen Gray. And then when I
really thought about it, you look at the trailer, It's like,
there is actually nothing in this trailer that would say
she's not Jeen Gray. It could just be misrecked and
other stuff, right like when they put a lot of
dream sequence stuff into trailer. So we will see if
this is trailer. Liked it. There's some tombstone talking there.
If it is a trailer, I'm liking it so far,
good vibe. I hope it is. I hope we get
to see the real thing soon. But yes, ladies, gentlemen,
I hope that you have a good day, good week.
I guess this is the last time, so afternoon you'll
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reviewing Stranger Things Volume two, so you'll list get that.
So thank you to everyone that joined in the live chat,
thank you to everyone that was listening after the fact,
and a big thank you to super band Mike for
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So thank you very much. I promise when you hear
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