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Speaker 1: Welcome to that Bigfoot podcast, where we believe in free speech,

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open discussion, and having a laugh. If that offends you,

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well we're not sorry. We talk a lot and we

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stand by most of it, unless you're a snowflake, in

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which case just assume we didn't mean it. This podcast

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is a mix of truth, nonsense, and humor, so buckle

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up and don't take it too seriously. Listener discretion is

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strongly advised.

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Speaker 2: Why what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Brian?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Buddy? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I am hanging in like a limp haer in a

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soggy biscuit, ungry all of a sudden. Oh got it.

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If a limp hare and a soggy biscuit makes you hungry,

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we have got to get you mentally checked out. Dude.

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There's something wrong with you now. I tell you. When

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I was growing up as a kid, I ate this

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thing called I called it soggy. It's probably going to

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gross you out, but I'm gonna tell you anyway. When

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I was really little, I used to love to sip

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coffee with my grandmother. This was my dad's mom. She

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passed away when I was relatively young. I would sit

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around with her and we'd drink coffee and she would

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make homemade buttermilk biscuits. I would dip the biscuit into

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the coffee, then let it dissolve. I'd put a whole

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fucking biscuit into a cup of coffee and eat it

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with a spoon. I called it soggy. Woh god, one

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of the weirdest things you could probably ever do. And

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I don't really think I've ever told anybody that. So

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there you go. I didn't know I was going to

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say that this morning. You didn't know you were going

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to hear that, or you talking like black coffee. No,

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And I still do this to today. I like a

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little bit of coffee with my half and half, so

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it was always overly half and half, if that's a thing.

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So it was a lot of cream, a little bit

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of coffee, and a frickin biscuit that would get soggy,

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and I would eat it right out of the coffee

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with a spoon.

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Speaker 3: I've watched my dad, and I've recently learned a lot

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of people do this. Eat corn bread and buttermilk, like

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corn bread inside of glass of buttermilk, and then with

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the spoon eat it out. I can't do it. I

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can't bring myself to try it.

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Speaker 2: I have never done it with buttermilk, even though I

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love buttermilk biscuits. I obviously use buttermilk to make corn bread.

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I've never been able to drink buttermilk. But I've done

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that in what we call here in the South, what

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we call sweet milk or whole milk. Y'all call it

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sweet milk up your way in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: I've heard it called sweet milk, but I've never called

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Speaker 2: So there you go, folks. You never know what you're

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going to get here. On that big podcast. We started

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with some weird ass shit that I like to eat.

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But other than that, man, we've been trying to get

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things done. Started the new true crime podcast Did Any

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and our working or ass off were putting three episodes

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a week out, So in addition to all the other

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stuff that we're doing already, it is quite the load

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as far as our production schedule. So I've been busier

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than a one iron paper hanger. I frankly had to

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cancel a couple of trips recently that I had coming

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up this month and next month, just because I don't

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have time to travel Honestly, I have to stay home

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and do as much on content creation as I possibly can, because, frankly,

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those other things just don't pay the bills. Really, you

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know what it's like to travel. It's an ordeal, man.

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You got to pack stuff up, you got to get

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where you're going, you got to get back from where

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you're going. And we're still trying to get the area

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ready for hopefully doing some of the camp outs and

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guided hikes on the property. I've still got to fifteen

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or twenty down trees down in this area to the road,

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and I just haven't been able to get down there

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and do it because I'm trying to do it all

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myself with my seventy five year old neighbor. We're old

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as fuck, dude. We don't know work that hard. So

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I think I'm going to have to hire some young

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some point. But I do have a couple of listeners

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that have already reached out and said they want to

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do that whenever we get the opportunity. Before we get

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too deep in here, I want to say this. There's

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a listener who is a big fan of the show.

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He's listened to my show for years. He loves this show.

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He's been reaching out to me privately. And I've had

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a lot of health stuff going on and a lot

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of things going on behind the scenes that I'm dealing with,

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and I've been rather emotional about a lot of things.

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Over the last few weeks. I got a message from

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Zachary that his wife passed away, just out of the blue. Zachary,

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who I don't want to say his last name. I'll

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say it privately because I do want to respect this privacy.

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He has put this out on Facebook, so it's public

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for his friends and family obviously for people on Facebook,

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and he obviously sent me the messages privately that she

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had a health issue and she was in intensive care and

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it didn't look like she was going to make it.

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moment for me in a number of ways that I

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won't get into all of them. At this point, she

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was forty seven years old, They've got kids, and it

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just wasn't her time. But on top of that, it

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was just the fact that it was weird and surreal

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to me that this man was going through what he

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was going through. With his family and losing his wife,

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he had enough of a connection to reach out to

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me and share it with me, and then me be

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able to go back and forth with him. All sounds

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weird saying it out loud, but I just I felt

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humbled at the moment of feeling like we had that connection.

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It's just because a bigfoot in the show. We say

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it all the time, how these connections we form and

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these families that we build, like our friendship together Tiffany,

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her husband, Zach, all the people that we have these

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phenomenal relationships with were born from this subject that we

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love so much. It just touched me in a lot

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of ways. Man, I know Zach's probably gonna hear this.

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I talked to him briefly this morning. We messaged back

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and forth on Messenger, me just checking in, and he

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said to me he couldn't believe that I responded to

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him and actually cared about what was going on in

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his life. I was like, dude, that's one of the

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worst things anybody could ever experience, the love of your life,

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just dropping dead overnight and leaving you and your kids, Like,

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why would I not if I'm a human being that

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cares about other people. Of course, I'm going to take

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the time to respond to that. I talk to people

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about fucking bigfoot all day. I never not respond to messages.

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It may take me a while, but even about a

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big Foot encunter, I'm eventually going to get back to somebody.

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talk about your wife passing away suddenly. Of course I'm

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going to do that. So I know it's tough, Zach.

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of yourself. Tomorrow's not promised to anybody, man. I guess

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that's the point. Because there are other petty bullshit things

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going on in the Bigfoot community. That's one of the

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reasons that I think I touched on it one of

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the last shows that we did a couple of weeks ago.

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here in May, I'm canceling because of some of the

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Bigfoot bullshit drama that's going on. I just don't want

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to be around that anymore. I don't want to do

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it behind the scenes. I frankly don't want it to

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play out publicly on the show. I don't give a

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shit about drama anymore because there's so much in life

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that's so much more important, even Bigfoot, and certainly be

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any of the Bigfoot bullshit drama that comes out of

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this subject that we have to put up with. I

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know that was a little heavy in the beginning. I

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went from talking about eating soggy biscuits and coffee to

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talking about something sad about somebody's wife passing away. But

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that's just where I'm at. That's one of the things

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about the show is we don't hold these things back.

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on Bigfoot Podcast, whether it's calling out hoaxers or talking

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about soggy biscuits. We're going to go there on that

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Speaker 3: Se y'all can't see it, but I had a feeling

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who he was talking about, and I pulled him up

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on my phone and held it up and Brian confirmed it.

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I've spoken with him as well. Good dude. He's just

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a really good dude. That breaks my heart.

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Speaker 3: I hate hearing that. I hate that he's going through

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that forty seven years old. I'm forty six. I mean,

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that's not enough time forty seven years is not enough time.

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Speaker 3: That breaks my heart. And I'm going to reach out

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to him when we get done here.

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Speaker 2: I know he would definitely appreciate that, but he's going

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through discuffling with it this morning. It's a tough thing. Man.

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to him is important at this point. All right, we

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got a couple of voicemails before we get into a

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few things that we're going to talk about today. We

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it comes from across the pind from my friend over

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, long time no voicemail. It's Jerremany from Australia here.

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Just listen to that latest episode of that Big Sol podcast,

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which is as I just want to start with, it's

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always amazing love what you guys do, and the real

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ones that are listening do as well. I just want

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to say, we're copying it here as well. In Australia.

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With the negativity in this industry, we've got people that

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have way more subscribers, that have monetized their channels that

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just speak out of bullshit ride coattails who have even

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been coming out to my area after watching my videos

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to talk about my videos and saying that we're wrong. Though,

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if you want to film do this. Since then, I've

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unsubscribed from them as I try and support as much

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people as I can without bullshit, and I'm not going

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to be dragged down into their negative lifestyle, which is

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why I'm leading this voice made of you guys. I

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really don't want you to leave, Brian. I don't think

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anyone does. Wayne doesn't want you to lead it and

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then you still be in touch.

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Speaker 3: The real wants here.

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Speaker 4: Love what you do, and we need someone let you guys,

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in this industry, we need to have the truth spoken.

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as long as we keep our libration and energy high

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and we don't stoop down to their levels and just

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speak the truth, we just go to try and let

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that go. But I just wanted to say, guys, just

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love what you do. Keep it up, Please keep it up.

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I'm always listening. Just flight out was lost and trying

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to get out to research. That's where the lack of voicemails.

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we love you.

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Speaker 3: We all love you.

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Speaker 4: Keep it up, stay strong, stay positive. Every day is

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an adventure. Cheers guys.

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Speaker 2: As always, we appreciate it. Jeremy, I guess he's talking

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about a couple of episodes ago, because last week I

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put out the live that we did, and then this

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week I put out the little Easter story that I

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wrote and put out over on sasquatch Otasey and backwards

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Bigfoot stories for everybody to enjoy. So it's been a

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a new episode of the podcast, and I was obviously

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going through it. Then I think we actually got a

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comment over on Spotify that said, boohoo, I guess about

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some of my whining about some of the things that

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people in Bigfoot. But I think it really does boil

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about conferences and things. I saw Steven Strufford over it

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the Coalition for Critical Thinking group had a couple of

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posts that he had done on Facebook about why another conference,

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what the fuck difference does it make? Dude? It's like

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asking why do they continue to play baseball games or

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why do they continue to play basketball games or football

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games or hockey games. It's because people enjoy it. They

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want to go out and be around like minded people

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and talk about a subject that they enjoy. I'm into gymstones.

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things when they're close to us. I like gun shows.

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I got a lot of fucking guns, but I enjoy

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going to see gun shows because new things cool people.

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You make new relationships, you make new friendships. That's all

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it is. But just the fact that you can't see

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that about a bigfoot conference and just read your sure that,

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oh that's cool. I'm not into that. I'm not going

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to go good for them, good on them. What happened

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to the good on you scenario in life? It just

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doesn't seem to exist anymore. Nobody can see anybody being successful,

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or nobody can see anybody just enjoying their life and

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doing what they like to do and just say, hey,

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good on you. Not my thing, dude, but it's good

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on you because you enjoy it. Like, why can't we

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do that? And it just so infuriates me at this

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point that it's affecting me. It really does make me

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want to walk away from something that I love more

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than anything in the world, and it's my livelihood. I'd

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literally have to go get another shitty ass job to

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walk away from this. I don't want to do that.

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Instead of doing that, I am trying to insulate myself.

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Even said it to me when we started recording. It

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feels like we haven't talked in weeks. I haven't talked

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to a lot of people in a long time because

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I'm insulating myself. It's the only mechanism. It's the only

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line of defense I have left is to just draw back,

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cancel places I was going to go, cancel trips, to

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do Bigfoot stuff, to just become more of an introvert.

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an introvert. No, I'm not, But at my core, I

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am an introverted person. I'm a very private person. When

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those things happen. When I get these external pressures like

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some of the people in Bigfoot that I'm having these

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issues with, it pushes me back to that point of

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going back to my default, and I don't like to

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be that person. I enjoy doing camp outs, I enjoy

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going to conferences. I enjoy being around and seeing people

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at festivals and doing all the things that we do.

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I enjoy interviewing people and interacting live on YouTube and

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all the things that we do. But when I get

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those pressures from people that are frankly just negative, they're

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not great people. And I've tried so hard to continue

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to either build on those relationships fix those relationships, but ultimately,

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over this last week, I just decided that I have

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this core group of people around me that I've insulated

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myself with that I trust wholeheartedly, and that's it for me.

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And I hate to be that way, but I'm just

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closed off at this point to I don't trust people anymore.

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I don't trust some of the people that I've had

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conversations with just in the last three weeks because things

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have gotten back to other people, and I know it's

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had to come from somewhere. That's a rare thing because

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I trust very few people in this world. So when

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I say those things and then that trust is broken,

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I'm done with you. So if I figure out who

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it is. I'm definitely done with them, let's just put

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it that way. But ultimately it just comes back to

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what Jeremy was saying. The negativity in the community and

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the negativity around this subject has just become such a

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fever pitch over the last few months. It's made me

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want to withdraw from it and do the bare minimum

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of doing the shows and doing the things that I

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know I have to do every day. I don't want

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to do anything extracurricular. That's one of the reasons outside

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of just time and frankly, it's hard fucking work. Why

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I haven't went out and finished the project to build

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the parking pad to get people the ability to come

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on to our property as much as I've wanted that.

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Now I'm thinking to myself, am I going to trust

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any of these people? Can I bring them where I

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live and trust enough that they're in this for the

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right reasons and they're not trying to fuck me or

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they're not trying to get something over on me. I

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don't want to be that person. I don't want to

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become what's that conspiracy theorist guy that screams all the time,

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Oh my god, his face is you know who Alex Jones.

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I don't want to become Alex Jones, where everybody's out

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to get me, the government's listening on my phone calls.

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I don't want to be that person, but God, I

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feel like I'm being pushed in that direction so badly,

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and the only thing I can do is throw out

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the anchor and stop the boat right where it's at

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and keep myself insulated. Does any of that make sense?

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Do you want to have me committed now that I'm no?

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Speaker 3: It does make sense, man, And I hate that you're

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feeling that way. I think we all have, certainly the

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ones that the content creators. Anyway, I felt that at

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one point or another my response to Stephen asking why

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what's the point in having another? I think the real

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question Steven needs to ask is why is he so negative?

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Why is he so bitter? What has happened? Something's happened

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in his life that has made him this way? Obviously

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there's another conference because people feel there's a need for it.

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People are going you have a conference, people show up

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that shows that they're interested in it.

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be right back after these messages.

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Speaker 3: So what's your point in asking something like that, Brian.

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I'm not a NASCAR fan at all, never have been.

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I'm down here in the South. I probably get hate

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mail for saying that, but I've never been able to

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get into it. Well anybody that does, especially in this

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part of the country. I'm the minority. Two hundred thousand

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people will show up Talladega and watch that race. I'm

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not going to be one of them, but I don't

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fault them. I don't ask why why are you doing that?

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Why are you wasting your time? That's just so stupid.

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I don't get it. I don't believe in mermaids, but

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I don't belong to a single mermaid group on Facebook,

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and I don't go on there and make fun of

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people that do. And that's what that group, Coalition of

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Critical Thinking, seems to me. That's what they do a

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lot of They make fun of people for something that

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they believe in, and that's not right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I had the opposite thing happen just

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a few weeks ago. I was out at Cheryl's place

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in Murphy, North Carolina. We did that camp out. I

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think we had six or eight people that ended up

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coming on the camp out that was the one Chris

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and her husband were trying to get to. They had

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tickets back when we had to cancel it because of

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weather back in I think it was October of last year.

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We went out and did a night investigation. Had an

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amazing time. Got to meet with a guy who had

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an experience back in I think it was twenty fourteen.

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He was active duty police, active duty firefighter in this

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area there in Murphy, North Carolina, and he had seen

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one of these creatures standing. We were actually just a

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few feet away from where he had that, which is

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really cool for me because I don't typically get to

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do that. You don't get to interview somebody and have

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a conversation with somebody who had an encounter where they

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saw one of these creatures and you actually get to

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see the spot. And he was explaining that you go

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over it was basically a bridge that goes over the

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road and this thing was standing next to this cement

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base of this bridge. And to go over there and

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actually be able to look up and see how tall

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this thing was based on what he was telling it

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was just a really cool experience, and that is where

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I was at my best. I had such a great

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time that weekend. I was on my phone very little,

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we had very little cell service out there. We were

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camping out, having good food, sitting around the campfires at night,

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talking and telling stories and laughing, getting out in the woods.

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We did a day hike next day. Just being in

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nature and having those conversations with truly, legitimately good people

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was amazing and recharged my batteries. And then I came

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out of that and came back into the quote unquote

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real world, where all of these issues, I'm having to

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cancel trips because this person doesn't like me, and this

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person doesn't want to be involved in that drama, and

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all the other bullshit that's going on behind the scenes,

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And I thought, there's no reason for any of those

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things to be happening. We're talking about Bigfoot. Really, we're

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literally at our core. We're talking about something that most

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people don't believe even exists, and the people who are

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into that are still infighting about all the other shit

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that's happening. It just blows my mind.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I get a little confused sometimes when I look at

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these conferences and I see one of the keynote speakers

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as Turtleman, and now I have to say, and I'm

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not shooting shots as Turtleman. Okay, I am ye. If

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that's what people are into. That didn't make me think

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twice and gave me a little bit of pause.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is, live action.

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Speaker 2: Live action. I don't fault those people. There's probably eight

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or ten people that are going to go specifically because

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Turtleman's there. And I have no qualms with this. People whatsoever.

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That is your life. You have the ability to do

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it and live it however you want. I'm not upset

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about it. I'm not angry about it. We're literally joking

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and laughing about it. I don't understand why other people

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can't do that. You have to realize, and this has

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happened with people before. We've talked a little bit about this.

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If you get a little bit of Bigfoot fame, ie,

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you gotta show that a few people listen to and

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people feel like you're a celebrity of some sort in

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Bigfoot whatever. People get this. It's almost like celebrities and

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people who are put on that pedestal. People start to

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disassociate the fact that you're just another person. You're just

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a human being with feelings. You do get upset when

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people say shit about you. You get upset when people

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don't like you, You get upset when people constantly say

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that they don't like whatever product. So we're all human beings,

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is my point. And I wish we could just get

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back to treating each other like human beings, having general discourse,

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conversations and disagreements. But we just can't seem to do that.

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It's a tough place to be when you enjoy this

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so much and you try to wade through those waters

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and do a show like this. It's an interesting dichotomy

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for us. You do an encounter's based podcast that's bigfoot centric.

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I do an encounter's based podcast that's bigfoot centric. Wait,

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I guess we should be fighting, shouldn't We shouldn't we

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be enemies because we compete, Our shows compete, So let's

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just have an on air fight, right quick. In all seriousness,

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there's a dichotomy and a show like that having these

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encounters into doing a show like this where we do

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call people out for bullshit. We do call people out

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that we believe are hoaxing or that are just ridiculous

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We're going to talk about at least one of those

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here in a few minutes. You have to weigh those waters,

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and it makes it more difficult for us. We chosen

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to put ourselves in this position. Nobody twisted our arm

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and made us start the show or any show, frankly,

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So I'm not saying it's anybody's fault other than ours,

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but you have to realize and all I'm asking for,

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I guess, is a little grace in understanding that we

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are in this position. And we try to walk these lines,

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and we try to be honest and open and tell

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our thoughts and feelings about things and evidence and people

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and situations. But it is difficult because we have the

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flip side of the coin that we have to be

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aware of. We do ask people to come on and

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tell their encounters, right, so we have to separate this too,

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and it becomes very difficult sometimes when some of the

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outside pressures and the other things that are going on

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behind the scenes push us into a direction because I'm

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not in a very good place right now. Just be

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honest with you. I am pissed off at the world.

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It's what it feels like, and I don't like being

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that person, because if you know me personally, if you

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know me well enough to know, I am definitely not

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that person. I'm not that person at all, and I

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don't like feeling that way.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you I've been worried about you. You

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can ask Tiffany. Before we came on today, I text her.

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I said, have you talked to Brian lately? She said,

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text him a couple of days ago off the show,

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00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,160
and he responded yesterday. But other than that note, I

477
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,480
haven't heard from him. He is not responding. He's been

478
00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,400
kind of short, and that's not like him. I'm kind

479
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,119
of worried about him, and I don't know. Man, it

480
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,559
will get better. Keep your head up. I know you're

481
00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:26,039
going through some stuff behind the scenes and you've gotten

482
00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,119
some kind of shitty news, but it's going to get better, dude.

483
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 2: All right, So let's move on. We have a short

484
00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,440
but very sweet voicemail that I want to play before

485
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,759
we move into anything else.

486
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:39,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

487
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,279
Speaker 2: This is from parts unknown from persons who shall remain anonymous.

488
00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:50,079
Here we go, gets creditor the Afgan Rise. You fucking

489
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,279
guys have to stop having your customers talk till god

490
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,839
damn past. Nobody can hear it sucks.

491
00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:03,759
Speaker 3: Wow, Oh, let's got you really feel there, Earl, Well,

492
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:04,440
I don't even know.

493
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: What you say to that. He has got to be

494
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,839
talking about the interview that I did with I can't

495
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,079
remember his name from up in Canada. He was a

496
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,279
tied standing ish talker in that he was pretty fast

497
00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:17,279
and he had that Canadian accent going on, so I

498
00:23:17,319 --> 00:23:18,880
get it. I tried to clean it up as best

499
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,160
I could. I've gotten a couple of comments about the

500
00:23:21,319 --> 00:23:23,400
edit on that show, and I tell you, the edit

501
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,160
is choppy like that because there was a couple of things.

502
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,640
There was a little bit of issue with the audio quality,

503
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,039
and there was some issues with just all the extra

504
00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:33,880
stuff that I had to take out of that episode.

505
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,880
So it was a little choppy, it was a little fast.

506
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,000
I get it. But we'll try to do better with

507
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:39,200
our customers in the future.

508
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, might need to give a refund YEP.

509
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: We don't want a bad customer service review, so we'll

510
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,799
try to do our best in the future to have

511
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,079
them slow down and make it a little bit easier

512
00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:52,680
for you to here, because we don't want it to suck.

513
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,480
And you clearly said that episode sucked, all right, let's

514
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,519
get into the main thing that we were going to

515
00:23:57,599 --> 00:23:59,599
talk about here. You brought a couple of things to

516
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,960
the tape. Let's start with this dude that calls himself

517
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,559
the Bigfoot Expert. I have seen these going around Facebook

518
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,480
in several different places over the last year or two

519
00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:14,720
when this guy popped up on my radar. But you

520
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:16,759
sent this to me, So why don't you tell everybody

521
00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:18,920
how you got exposed to him? And what's the deal

522
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,880
with this the Bigfoot Expert.

523
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: I don't know a whole lot about him. I remember

524
00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:27,720
seeing him. It was last year around the time that

525
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:32,200
I saw him, because he's got this real creepy ass

526
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,160
picture of a bigfoot face as his Facebook image, and

527
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,839
he calls himself on Facebook it's a Bigfoot expert, and

528
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:46,319
he is not shy about bragging about his abilities. He's

529
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,160
been invited to all these conferences, but he turns them down.

530
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:52,480
He knows where they're at. He can do this, do that,

531
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:54,519
and you tell you what they're thinking when they're thinking

532
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:58,039
it and why. Apparently he has a YouTube channel as well.

533
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,920
I haven't checked that out, but I remember last year, Brian,

534
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:08,640
you sent me a screenshot of his Facebook logo image,

535
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,359
and you said, I think word for word, I can't

536
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,400
tell if this dude's serious or not because it's that blatant.

537
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,559
You don't know if he really thinks this highly of

538
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,039
himself or if he's making fun of every single one

539
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:27,480
of us. You just don't know. But our good buddy,

540
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,960
mister Steve Coles or the Squatch Detective, did a show

541
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,960
about him, and I watched just about all of it,

542
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,400
and I sent you the link. I don't know if

543
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,119
you had a chance to watch it or not. Steve

544
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,720
did a little bit of a deeper dive, or quite

545
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:44,000
a bit deeper dive than I've done. Steve claims that

546
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:46,920
were being pumped, and I don't think Steve even really

547
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,640
knows if this guy is serious. He did bring up

548
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:55,839
the point where he's accepting donations to PayPal, so he's

549
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,119
trying to make money off of this. Seems like I

550
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,440
know a guy that bought some trading cards, Bigfoot Expert

551
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:08,119
trading cards that were autographed that this guy put together.

552
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,119
Have you seen those?

553
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 4: Ryan?

554
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:12,319
Speaker 2: Okay? Somebody posted about it on Facebook and I reached

555
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:14,839
out to them. I think I commented on the Facebook

556
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,039
posted they did and asked were they serious? Is this

557
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,279
a serious thing? And he was like, absolutely not. It's

558
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:21,039
a complete joke.

559
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,279
Speaker 3: Johnny Tucker. Yes, my good buddy, Johnny Tucker. Yeah, he's funny.

560
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,000
But yeah, this dude, this same is selling like baseball cards,

561
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:32,160
but Bigfoot cards. And he goes to the trouble of

562
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,119
autographing them and everything. Johnny says something like, for the

563
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,559
low price of sixty nine to ninety nine, you can

564
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:41,759
own autograph Bigfoot Expert cards yourself.

565
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: And just his voice.

566
00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: He's got the cigar and that hat. He's out in

567
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,200
the woods talking about right there. He's right there. I

568
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,599
just don't know what to make of it. Dude. I

569
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,000
know something else I thought was really funny that Steve

570
00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:01,480
talked about in his live episode. He talked about either

571
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,599
the YouTube or something somewhere people can leave reviews sound

572
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,559
like us. With the podcast, he has four reviews. Two

573
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:13,039
of them are people talking like us. This dude's crazy.

574
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,920
He's full of it. Are you okay, dude? Something like that,

575
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,279
And then it has two that's raving on him when

576
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:22,079
I'm saying, this guy is so knowledgeable. If you have

577
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,799
any questions, this is the guy you go to. And

578
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,599
another one something similar to that. Well, Steve did some

579
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,519
digging and the accounts that made those comments are owned

580
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:32,400
by him.

581
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Of course they are.

582
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: That is Oh, I ain't thinking about himself. I just

583
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:46,640
I don't know it's comedy gold, but I just I

584
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,559
don't know how mad you can be at him, because

585
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:51,319
I don't know if he's serious or if he's just

586
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,640
giving us some good entertainment.

587
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

588
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,759
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's got to be punking us, dude, because

589
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,359
I remember the text message I sent you a while back,

590
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,119
like last year, like you said, could not believe this guy.

591
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,880
He's got to be full of shit, Like he's got

592
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,440
to be punking us. It's got to be he's in

593
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,039
on the joke. I'm looking at his Facebook now. The

594
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:14,680
Bigfoot Expert, top notch bigfoot expert, anti hero with unique

595
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,799
deep Woods experience and divine knowledge. No one takes you deeper.

596
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,359
And that's all caps. Yeah, yeah, I think there might

597
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,839
be some play there because it's all in capital letters.

598
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,759
Than I do. Into the dark and Dangerous Rainforest of

599
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,519
the Pacific Northwest. I think I heard Steve and his

600
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:38,720
video say he's out in Washington State an ongoing Sasquatch odyssey.

601
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:42,920
Buckle up sis and enjoy the ride. I think we

602
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,960
should go ahead and have that cease and desist letter

603
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,400
written up because I have that trademarks. My friend can

604
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:51,400
just be using the Sasquatch Odyssey. But yeah, I'm looking

605
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,279
through the Facebook and he's got nine point two thousand

606
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:58,720
likes and forty four thousand followers on Facebook.

607
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,799
Speaker 3: He oh yeah, uh.

608
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,799
Speaker 2: But some of the posts that he does are bizarre.

609
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:07,519
It's just him on a green screen looking at what

610
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,000
looks like a bigfoot in the background, and he's smoking

611
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:13,039
his pipe and he's nodding his head. He's even doing

612
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,079
kung fu in one of them. He's got a staff

613
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,279
and he's out of his kung fu moves. Yeah, there's

614
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,519
a lot of laughing emojis when he's doing his everybody

615
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,000
was kung Fu fights he now.

616
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:29,799
Speaker 3: Is he's got that bostaff working overtime.

617
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:34,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. Three point two thousand views with forty five reactions

618
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:36,640
and twenty six comments. Yeah, I think the guy is

619
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,000
punking this dude. I think he is just one of

620
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:41,839
those guys that is not serious at all. I think

621
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,359
this is a person and I'm going out of a

622
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,680
limb here. I could be totally wrong. It sounds like

623
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,799
I need to reach out to this guy and see

624
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,559
if I can get him on the show. He sounds like

625
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:50,880
a hoot to have as far as an interview's concerned.

626
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,799
Because if he is serious and he is calling himself

627
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:58,079
the Bigfoot Expert, and he really believes that he's doing

628
00:29:58,119 --> 00:29:59,920
these things, that is a conversation I want to have.

629
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,559
And if it's the opposite, that is also a conversation

630
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:05,359
I want to have. He's a win win as far

631
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,480
as I'm concerned. He looks like entertainment gold.

632
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more of that Bigfoot podcast. We will

633
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,039
be right back after these messages.

634
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's interesting that people like Steve and Chris's

635
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,599
cohosts were doing a show about this guy. But I

636
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:27,200
think it needs to be said that again, there are

637
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720
people that believe this guy. I guarantee you, no matter

638
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,799
what is happening with him, whether this persona is real,

639
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,440
whether it's a creative persona, I don't know, but there

640
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,599
are people that are buying what he's selling. I guarantee it.

641
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,519
If you get deep into the comments, I guarantee you

642
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:43,599
would see it. Oh my god, that's amazing. I can't

643
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,480
believe how great you are. You're the greatest thing ever,

644
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,680
and he's probably laughing all the way to the bank

645
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,119
and punking these people. I think it's worth sussing out

646
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,279
and trying to figure out if this guy is pretending

647
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,759
to be Legit or is he just pretending to be

648
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:01,000
this persona to get a laugh or get a following.

649
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Whatever his end deal is on his stick, I don't

650
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,160
really care. I'd just like to know if it truly

651
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,799
is a stick, because we're just guessing at this point.

652
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,000
What is your gut feeling. Do you think he started Legit?

653
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,319
Do you think he's really into Bigfoot? Do you think

654
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:15,359
it's a combination of all the above, or do you

655
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,799
think he's just fucking with everybody.

656
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: I hope he's just fucking with us. I hope it's

657
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:24,039
just a big joke, that he's just poking fun. I

658
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,759
hope he's a believer like us, but he's just having

659
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,799
fun with it, you know, That's what I hope. I

660
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,279
really hope that he's not serious, because we have enough

661
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,319
of those. We have enough sasquatched Ontario's and odd Standings

662
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,480
and all the others that we talk about. There's enough

663
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,599
of them. I just I don't know it would be

664
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,079
interesting to reach out and see if we could get

665
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,400
him on your show. I don't think Steve has the

666
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,920
answer after you're doing the show. I don't even think

667
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,279
he knows.

668
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, I watched the majority of that video. You

669
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,839
sent me the link to it yesterday and we'll post

670
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,079
it over on the blog so you guys can watch it.

671
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,240
I think it's entertaining. I think you'll get some information

672
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,319
from Steve and Chris, so we'll put it up on

673
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:05,160
the blog for this episode, so you guys can go

674
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,559
over there and check it out. Paranormal World Productions dot

675
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:11,039
Com go to that Bigfoot Podcast blog at the top

676
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:12,559
of the page and you can see what we're talking about.

677
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,480
But I got that feeling that they were laughing so

678
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:18,440
hard during this whole thing, they got off topic, and

679
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,240
they didn't really present a whole lot of anything about

680
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,799
this guy. Steve probably thinks there's just this guy's just

681
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:27,240
probably punking everybody, But is that really the case. I

682
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,920
think there needs to be a little bit more digging

683
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:33,680
done and maybe suss out the truth about the Bigfoot expert,

684
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920
because just that in and of itself is one of

685
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,359
those huge red flags. We talk about it all the time.

686
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:42,279
There's no experts in bigfoot, so just calling himself that

687
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:44,759
as a slap in the face to some people who

688
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,480
are into this take a more serious approach to it,

689
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,799
because we are the ones that are already saying there's

690
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:51,440
no such thing as a bigfoot expert. But then you

691
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,359
got this guy. That's his whole fricking stick is that

692
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,920
he is the bigfoot expert. It works. Man. He's got

693
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,200
forty four thousand followers. I don't have forty four thousand

694
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,519
followers on Facebook, so something he's doing is working. I

695
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,799
haven't really taken a look and went back into the

696
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,400
archives to see how long he's been doing what he's doing,

697
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,240
or how long he's been putting stuff out there, as

698
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,279
far as how many years or whatever he's been on

699
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:16,000
the radar, But I'm definitely going to look further into

700
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,279
maybe seeing if we could reach out and get an

701
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:21,279
interview with this cat, because I think either way, I'm

702
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:23,920
definitely thinking it's going to be entertaining. And just for

703
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,599
the record, he has a little teaser. There is a

704
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:30,720
listener to the show who has a connection with a

705
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:38,480
very well known Hollywood actor entertainer who is also into bigfoot,

706
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,039
and they're trying to broker a meeting with me and

707
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,000
this person. So I'm going to keep that under wraps

708
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,920
for the time being, but I'm going to suss this

709
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,440
out and fill it out over the next couple of

710
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,039
weeks and see if we can make that happen. If

711
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:52,039
I have any opening to any door, I'm going to

712
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:53,640
stick my foot through it and then I'm going to

713
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,279
stick the rest of my body through it and I'm

714
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,640
going to go barreling in because i may only get

715
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,200
one shot at this, So I'm going to work this

716
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,279
angle as much as possible. And I am very appreciative

717
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:04,880
to this listener that reached out and said they would

718
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,519
offer to help facilitate that. So I'm hoping, keeping my

719
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:10,519
fingers and toes crossed, it will happen at some point

720
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:12,400
in time in the future, and if it does, we'll

721
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,199
probably play that interview for you guys over here as well,

722
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,559
because I think it's going to be a doozy. You

723
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:19,599
also sent me something else, Wayne, Why don't you talk

724
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,599
a little bit about this video clip that you sent

725
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,480
me that you wanted to talk about and what do

726
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:26,920
you feel about it as far as whether you think

727
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,800
it's real or not.

728
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: This has secretly always been one of my favorite bigfoot clips.

729
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,679
I have always had this gut feeling that it was real.

730
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:42,119
I have been proven wrong so many times, though, so

731
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,880
it would not surprise me. Two thousand and nine is

732
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:52,199
when this was released. It is the deer and the foughts.

733
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:57,320
There's two deer and one fox and they are frozen

734
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,800
like in fear, looking at this thing at the end

735
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,719
of this road. The thing looks like a bigfoot to me.

736
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,760
It's i'd say one hundred yards away, maybe a little more.

737
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,559
People have always argued that this was an old man

738
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:18,360
in a blue coat with khaki pants. I don't think

739
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,320
that at all. Are you're looking at it now, Brian?

740
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:22,800
If you look at the grass around where hit the

741
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,039
thing's waist is what color is that? That's white? That's

742
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:30,760
light right, So of course Hit the bottom half of

743
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,280
him is going to look like that. That's the sunlight

744
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,360
coming through. And then from the waist up looks black

745
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,159
to me. And when this thing turns and starts walking,

746
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,880
it looks like Paddy's walking away. The long arms and

747
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,960
how they're swinging. What do you think about it?

748
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,199
Speaker 2: I think I've actually reposted this in the past over

749
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,599
on some of my social media maybe last year, but

750
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:57,559
I didn't study it very well. It was more of

751
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,639
one of those clickbait experiments that I was doing to

752
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:02,199
see if people would have comments, and most people will

753
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:03,719
come in and say, hey, that was proven to be

754
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,920
a hoax or no, I've always thought that was real. Whatever.

755
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,199
I didn't really study it and still haven't really went

756
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,719
in depth with trying to change the contrast and maybe

757
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,400
zoom in a little bit. I was trying to zoom

758
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,960
in on my phone, but I didn't have the ability

759
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,840
to do that on Facebook. So I'm going to try

760
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,760
to see if I can figure out a way to

761
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,039
zoom in on the video and take a closer look

762
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,039
at it. I think the thing that got me about

763
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,079
it is it's clearly an old video, like you said

764
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:28,159
from two thousand and nine. It's not AI. It doesn't

765
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:31,199
look like CGI. To me, it looks like a legitimate video,

766
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,599
like it is either a person or a sasquatch. I'll

767
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:36,119
just put it out there. The interesting thing to me

768
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,440
is a couple of things a those two deer and

769
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,199
a fox. How often in the middle of the day

770
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,519
do you look down a road and see two deer

771
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,199
standing that close together, as close as they appear to

772
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:50,199
be to the person who's filming this, with a fox

773
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,079
on the other side of them, and then on the

774
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,239
other side of them is what looks like a bigfoot.

775
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,159
I think the interesting thing to me just watching it

776
00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:59,199
back a couple of times, as you were talking about it,

777
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,760
is this thing, whatever it is, if it's a person

778
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,480
or if it's a sasquatch, it doesn't seem to be

779
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:10,119
interested at all in the fact that there's a fucking fox,

780
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,840
too deer, and a person standing one hundred or so

781
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,599
yards away from it. Right. It looks like it throws

782
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,480
up a glance maybe and says, oh, there's a person there.

783
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,320
I'm just gonna meander on over here. It's not in

784
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,440
a hurry. It just seems weird to me, the odd behavior,

785
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,519
because I would think, if that's a person, if I

786
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:34,239
am that person, I e. The potential sasquatch here, if

787
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,480
I am in that position in this video, I'm gonna

788
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,559
be like, holy shit, there's a fox, Holy shit, there's

789
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:44,920
too deer. Holy shit, there's a person standing there filming me. Yeah,

790
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,760
I'm something's gonna happen, right. I would be interested in

791
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,599
those things. This thing does not appear to be interested

792
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,679
at all. There's a couple of things that could make

793
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,079
Is it a person that is a part of this hoax?

794
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,199
I'm gonna stand out here and look like a bigfoot,

795
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:01,199
so I'm not gonna do any of the natural things

796
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:04,519
that it seemed that a sasquatch or even a person

797
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:08,039
would do in that scenario. I don't know, man, it's

798
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,679
weird to me, so it looks like it could be legit,

799
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:15,000
But at the same time, it doesn't seem like natural

800
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:18,679
behavior because any other animal is going to be interested,

801
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,599
in my opinion, in the fact that there's this weird

802
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,559
scenario where you've got a fox and two deers standing

803
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:28,719
staring at you, i e. A person or a creature

804
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,559
in the middle of the day while somebody else's videotaping.

805
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,559
There's just a whole lot of weird shit going on there.

806
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,519
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you think if it's a person that the deer

807
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,079
and the fox you're looking at, that they would run away.

808
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,519
These things seem almost either afraid or intrigue, and what

809
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:47,360
they're looking at is something that they don't typically see.

810
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:51,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other point, because they are standing perfectly still.

811
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,119
The fox notices this thing as it's walking off and

812
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,880
starts to walk a little bit in that direction, when

813
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,559
whatever this is in the foreground walks off, and the

814
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:03,079
deer just they wait until it starts to walk off

815
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:05,920
before they move, and they do stop as soon as

816
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,679
this thing is right there and frame. I would love

817
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,239
to have a conversation with the person who filmed it.

818
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: I want that backstory. I've never heard the backstory. Anybody

819
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,280
out there that knows it, please contact this and let

820
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:18,599
us know.

821
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about the backstory. Man. There's quite a

822
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,320
few comments on this particular post. People are saying that

823
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,840
some dude standing in tall grass. Of course, you can

824
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,039
go down the rabbit hole with all the comments. I'll

825
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,079
probably do that at some point and see if anybody's

826
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,760
got something as far as an analysis that somebody's done

827
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,239
that may have shed more light on it, or maybe

828
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,320
somebody's come out and told the backstory. I don't know,

829
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,880
but that's the danger we've always talked about. When you're

830
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,840
posting things like that and you go down the rabbit

831
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,400
hole with no backstory, you're just left to look and ponder,

832
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,119
which is exactly what I'm going to be doing for

833
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:51,679
the rest of the day now, because it does look weird. Man,

834
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,239
it just doesn't make sense that these animals would be

835
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,360
standing there in the middle of the day and not

836
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,519
run off when person walked out, because that's what happens naturally.

837
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:01,840
You might have that if you jump a deer walking

838
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,920
across a trail, they stop immediately, they look at you,

839
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:07,320
and as soon as they know you've seen them, they're bolting. Right,

840
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,599
most of them could jump out. I don't know about

841
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:11,960
fox behavior. I've not been around too many foxes. Other

842
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,480
than them killing their chickens here, a lot of that

843
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,119
shit goes on during the day. But yeah, it's interesting, man.

844
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:19,039
We'll try to post a copy of this. I'll figure

845
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,159
out a way to rip it off the phone or whatever,

846
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:22,760
and we'll post a copy of it over on the

847
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,400
blog so you guys can take a look at it

848
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,239
and give your opinion, because it's definitely interesting. I would

849
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,000
love it to be real because if it's an old

850
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,280
farmer or an old man in the background, he's a

851
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,679
big dude, he is. That's a wide load. I called

852
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,119
that short round. I can't really tell how tall whatever

853
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:41,079
the creature is, but it's definitely wide.

854
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,079
Speaker 3: Give him a wide berth.

855
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,079
Speaker 2: It's definitely it's an interesting gait too. To your point,

856
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,119
it's a very interesting gate when the thing is both.

857
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,039
Speaker 3: Those long arms too that are swaying just like Patty.

858
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Could be real, could not be again.

859
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,400
You guys usually know more than Wayne and I, so

860
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,920
probably seeing this done an analysis. If you have any information,

861
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,719
please send us an email Brian and Orwayne at Paranomoral

862
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,559
Productions dot com, or you can leave us a voicemail

863
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,320
just like our friend who shall remain nameless.

864
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:13,079
Speaker 3: Earl Earl.

865
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:17,559
Speaker 2: We're gonna call him Earle. Yeah, Earl plow your customers there.

866
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,880
You appeace her shit, Get out my lawn, fucker, Jeremy.

867
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,679
Of course, it's always got nicer voicemails. He's always got

868
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,159
our back and best interest at heart. We appreciate it, Jeremy,

869
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:28,440
and we totally understand.

870
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:28,639
Speaker 5: Man.

871
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: We want you to spend more time in the woods

872
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,639
instead of sending us voicemails. If you guys want to

873
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:34,440
be involved in the show, we'd love to get them

874
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,280
from you. You can always hit the button right here

875
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,880
in the show notes. But you're never gonna get this.

876
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:42,280
There's only one person that always gets the last word

877
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,800
on this show. It is the Sasquatch savon himself. That

878
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,599
is you Wayne.

879
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: All right, everybody, thank you so much for all of

880
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,159
the continued sport, all of the love, the well wishes,

881
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,039
everything you guys do. It's awesome. Please continue to rate

882
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,280
and review every chance you get. That helps us out

883
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,239
so very much until we get to talk to y'all again.

884
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:08,039
Y'all take care of yourselves, take care of each other.

885
00:42:08,199 --> 00:44:08,599
Speaker 2: Bye,