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Speaker 2: or not, and a bunch of them are freaking nerds.
Speaker 2: They like Final Fantasy. I know, right, do you like
Speaker 2: Final Fantasy?
Speaker 1: Yes, you have also a nerd.
Speaker 2: Yes, you've heard that Magic the Gathering is making a
Speaker 2: Final Fantasy set.
Speaker 1: I have been informed.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good because I have some of my favorite
Speaker 2: cards to talk about today. I have a couple of
Speaker 2: cards that I okay, here's the thing, and I'll just
Speaker 2: get it out there.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: For the last few weeks, everybody I think thinks that
Speaker 2: this is like my favorite set of all time, and
Speaker 2: I know everything about Final Fantasy.
Speaker 1: I have been of the mind. Yes, well that's how
Speaker 1: I also feel.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get out with it here. I have never
Speaker 2: played Final Fantasy before. Oh shit, really never, not a
Speaker 2: single one, not one.
Speaker 1: Have you ever watched the stream on the Dufferent Avenue
Speaker 1: Twitch channel.
Speaker 2: I've been on the stream. Oh she never mind watching it.
Speaker 2: I've walked past the camera several times and it showed
Speaker 2: my junk. Yeah, too small. We don't got enough zoom.
Speaker 1: That would explain why we haven't been banned.
Speaker 2: Yes, we don't have enough zoom. And I don't really
Speaker 2: know anything about any of the characters in this set.
Speaker 2: So when I look at the set, I'm looking at
Speaker 2: it card by card instead of as a whole. Does
Speaker 2: it capture final Fantasy tropes and themes and does give
Speaker 2: you the feel like when we got Lord of the
Speaker 2: Rings that was my thing, and I look to make
Speaker 2: sure that the set captured some of the themes of
Speaker 2: that book friendship or fellowship, life and death and all
Speaker 2: all the stuff. Right.
Speaker 1: Walking and walking, Yeah, there're lots of walking.
Speaker 2: That's a walking in that book.
Speaker 1: They do lots of walking, lots of it. Sounds like
Speaker 1: I'm making fun of it, but it's they walk a
Speaker 1: long way for a long time.
Speaker 2: At least five hundred miles, yeah, and then five hundred more.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have that kind of deeper knowledge
Speaker 2: of this set. So when I'm looking at it and
Speaker 2: reviewing it. I'm looking at it from a card by
Speaker 2: card standpoint, and that gives me the opportunity not to say, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, I'm gonna build this cloud deck.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna build this Tifa Lockhart deck.
Speaker 2: Oh my listen, I even knew some name some of
Speaker 2: the it is the name. Yeah, I'm not gonna build
Speaker 2: a Soldier deck off, but it lets me say, hey,
Speaker 2: this card is going to go really well in this
Speaker 2: deck that I already have. Oh baby, and there's a
Speaker 2: few that I wanted to just share, pick your brain about,
Speaker 2: talk about, and ultimately, like, the set feels very and
Speaker 2: this isn't a knock. It feels it feels mid as in.
Speaker 2: It's got zombies and dragons and demons, clerics, you know,
Speaker 2: like all the magic y stuff.
Speaker 1: No goblins, they got goblins and.
Speaker 2: Final Fantasy of course they do. Oh okay, yeah, so
Speaker 2: they short changed your boy, sure did.
Speaker 1: Frick No preview card, no palette of free product me
Speaker 1: to open and then complain about on social media.
Speaker 2: Well, that is a thing that they might not want
Speaker 2: you to do.
Speaker 1: Not calling anybody out, but.
Speaker 2: I did ask for a free preview card. We haven't
Speaker 2: had one since I think Lord of the rings Man.
Speaker 2: What a great day.
Speaker 1: It was a day. It was a good card too.
Speaker 1: I even played that card in the deck for a while.
Speaker 2: I played two of the three cards we got that
Speaker 2: one ant draft Bass and I never played that card,
Speaker 2: not even in limited. But anyways, I wanted to pick
Speaker 2: your brain on like, Okay, we got Kicker, we got Flashback,
Speaker 2: we got Clerics, and sort.
Speaker 1: Of like living weapon ish.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So like the set is going to
Speaker 2: be integrated into EDH and the superstars are going to
Speaker 2: be superstars. I think you're probably gonna talk about them tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I can cure I actually probably not. I've only got
Speaker 1: a few of the legends on my to talk about list, oh,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. Yeah. I didn't want to focus
Speaker 1: too heavy. And they cuse all the new decks because
Speaker 1: so many people, I think already kind of know which
Speaker 1: ones are the best, you know what I mean? How
Speaker 1: many Bahamat decks are we going to get? Probably quite
Speaker 1: a few.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that one guy with the big long sword
Speaker 2: who's an aristocrat in the command zone.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that guy, that guy too.
Speaker 2: Ah he said his name, I'd say, yeah, I totally
Speaker 2: knew that. Yeah, yeah, I totally knew that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna see a bunch of tea for Lockhart decks,
Speaker 1: i'd imagine, because.
Speaker 2: It's just simping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's both simping and like a really easy
Speaker 1: and like in like a in a inefficient, inexpensive deck
Speaker 1: to make because you already have all the cards at home.
Speaker 1: Oh do you just need to put mossborne hydra in
Speaker 1: your command zone and all of a sudden your deck
Speaker 1: is amazing And that's what you're doing with Tifa Lockhart. Yes,
Speaker 1: So there's lots of that going on. So I just
Speaker 1: kind of picked cards that I personally kind of want,
Speaker 1: and I picked out a few of them that I
Speaker 1: thought kind of merited attention, that are are like special
Speaker 1: attention that I want to take a look at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got my first one like that, Okay,
Speaker 2: And it's got an ability that I really like in
Speaker 2: flashback okay, which you know I like doing butt stuff.
Speaker 1: I know you do.
Speaker 2: That's the graveyard for those who are are never experimented.
Speaker 2: If you're new here, if you're new, take it in
Speaker 2: the butt and uh in the nation. No. From father
Speaker 2: to son. Wow, what a terrible card name to follow?
Speaker 2: Up what I just said. Yeah, yeah, this is a
Speaker 2: tutor for a vehicle, and it cost white one. Search
Speaker 2: your library for a vehicle, reveal it, put it into
Speaker 2: your hand, if it was cast from your graveyard, put
Speaker 2: it into the battlefield instead.
Speaker 1: How much does it cost to flash it back?
Speaker 2: A thousand? Okay, yes, white, white, white? Is that four whites?
Speaker 2: It's seven seven total. That's the lot, man, that's lots.
Speaker 2: But if I can get like a Parhelion two or
Speaker 2: any vehicle that.
Speaker 1: I don't know for seven, man, I finally just play
Speaker 1: the fucking Parhelian.
Speaker 2: Two, not if it's in my deck.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: This card represents Parheli in two, two and three. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I could get it.
Speaker 1: I can get it.
Speaker 2: This guy get it like three times. So I like
Speaker 2: this one. I like that it's a dad like giving
Speaker 2: a car, like giving his son his inheritance, and it's
Speaker 2: a fricking car. I think that that's cool. It's like
Speaker 2: a little story. I was hoping that you would be
Speaker 2: able to tell me anything about it, But if you can't,
Speaker 2: that's okay.
Speaker 1: Oh this is a nactus I believe is his name.
Speaker 1: He's the main character of Final Fantasy fifteen.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know much about the story about that game,
Speaker 1: but I do know that it's three dudes kind of
Speaker 1: in that car going on like a road trip around
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, whatever the world is called. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's one guy that takes selfies of himself and they
Speaker 1: fight big monsters. And that's what I know about Final
Speaker 1: Fantasy fifteen, Eh.
Speaker 2: Selfies and big monsters.
Speaker 1: And I knew that his name was Nactus.
Speaker 2: That's like Uncle Brando's standing in front of the mirror. Yeah,
Speaker 2: who selfies and big monsters. I like Restoration Magic. Why
Speaker 2: I assume that that's a Final Fantasy thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, any of the ones that are magic. There's
Speaker 1: a Lightning magic and fire man yeah yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: like levels. There's cure and using this an exown that's cure.
Speaker 1: That's like your basic cure spell. It cures a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yes, And there's hold on we would say Restoration Magic
Speaker 2: instant for just white, right, and it's got tiered. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's Final Fantasy, but we know what
Speaker 2: tears are. Tier one costs zero extra mana target, permanent, gains, indestructible,
Speaker 2: and hexproof tel eod pretty good. Yeah, that's like white
Speaker 2: counterspell if you target my guy, yep, that's totally fine.
Speaker 1: Snake skin Veil gets played all the time. This is
Speaker 1: basically the same card.
Speaker 2: Yep. If I could go h Kura Curra cura. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's for one extra so two total Now target permanent
Speaker 2: gains hex proof, indestructible, and I gained three life sure
Speaker 2: sure or curaga correct for five total permanence, I control
Speaker 2: gain hexperof and indestructible, and I gained six life.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Remember, not as an awesome card that's going
Speaker 2: on every commander deck and I'm gonna build a deck
Speaker 2: around it. But in my life gain deck where I
Speaker 2: care about swinging in with advisors and monks and artificers,
Speaker 2: and I can go, oh yeah, all my guys are
Speaker 2: hexproof and indestructible and they all get plus six plus
Speaker 2: oh for five manna at instant freaking speed. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be a win con. This is like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, six life the creator hoof yeack Creator cure
Speaker 2: a hoof.
Speaker 1: That's not bad. Actually, okay, I like that one. I
Speaker 1: do like that.
Speaker 2: I do like that, yes, okay, uh yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what lots of white cards that I actually was interested in.
Speaker 1: What do you think of this cycle? Here? The crystals, Oh, crystals,
Speaker 1: we like them. It's good. So's there's one for each color. Yes,
Speaker 1: and they cost color color too.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And they make the according color us cost one less
Speaker 1: spells off the type.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Then they double something. In White's case, it's life.
Speaker 2: Game life gain.
Speaker 1: In green you get an extra bunch of extra counters.
Speaker 2: You get like an extra plus one plus one counter.
Speaker 1: Red gives the fucking haste.
Speaker 2: It doubles the soonness in which you can attack with it.
Speaker 2: Now that checks out, though, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: It does double the soonness in which you can attack.
Speaker 1: And then for like color color four, and I think
Speaker 1: tap it does something gain life, put creature into play
Speaker 1: for free, and do the thing right like it does
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff. What do you think of those?
Speaker 2: Ah? I like them. The white one gains you flying
Speaker 2: in lifelink on all your guys until and it turns
Speaker 2: pretty good. It goes right back to what I was
Speaker 2: just saying about my life gain deck. That's cool. I
Speaker 2: like the blue one because the milk card. Yes, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna put it in my mill deck because it
Speaker 2: doesn't quite make the cut. If it was three men,
Speaker 2: maybe I would. It costs four. I can already combo
Speaker 2: kill you on turn three or four or just with
Speaker 2: my commander. Yeah. So, like that's the problem when you're
Speaker 2: making like a competitive deck is cards that you like
Speaker 2: that are cool don't always go in because it's like, man,
Speaker 2: I can't find the space for this pet card blue
Speaker 2: blue two blue spells cost one lass if you mill
Speaker 2: mil twice that much like Brewbak mil in additional four,
Speaker 2: oh mill in additional four. Yeah, cause Brubak too good,
Speaker 2: too good, mild good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a ground well, I mean that makes you just
Speaker 1: win with Grindstone too, sure, probably because they're gonna get
Speaker 1: colors that match in six cards.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, wow, I do play Grindstone in my
Speaker 2: brewmat deck. Oh man, it's good in two colors, or
Speaker 2: it's good in uh you know what cards really fricking
Speaker 2: good Tasha's hideous laughter.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They exile cards from the top of their library until
Speaker 2: they hit twenty CMC. The more competitive you get. I
Speaker 2: got a guy for like fifty cards on time, He's like,
Speaker 2: oh zero rob zero drop zero drop anyways, Yeah, then
Speaker 2: the blue ones like mill equal to cards in your
Speaker 2: hand or something. Yeah, I forget whatever, but I do
Speaker 2: like them, and I.
Speaker 1: Think they're kind of neat. I don't know if they're
Speaker 1: going to see a bunch of play or I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't really think I'm going to play them, but hey,
Speaker 1: I think that they're kind of interesting that they're there,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad the crystals were represented and got some love.
Speaker 1: Unlike my girl Ferris, who's my favorite character from Final
Speaker 1: Fantasy five, not even appearing in the art on a.
Speaker 2: Card, Ferris is she made out of iron.
Speaker 1: Now she's a pirate. She's a pirate queen with purple hair,
Speaker 1: and she's all jacked. She goes and she talks like
Speaker 1: a pirate. It's awesome. Oh yeah. She has a friend
Speaker 1: named Hydra who lives in the ocean, and she pulls
Speaker 1: her irate ship along when there's no wind.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, speaking of ships, my next card cargo ship.
Speaker 2: Another vehicle. I swear I'm not all about vehicles, but
Speaker 2: lately I am. You are.
Speaker 1: You're about vehicles and mill and advisors. Those are the
Speaker 1: only things that you like. No, I figured you out, man,
Speaker 1: No figured it out, kham Man Right, mill deck, vehicle
Speaker 1: deck Cascade deck.
Speaker 2: Oh that dad, I do like Cascade, Yeah, I do
Speaker 2: like Cascade. Okay, so this is a cargo ship. It's
Speaker 2: flying Vidge two to three for two, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Cruise for one. That's pretty good, and it taps for
Speaker 2: a colorless but you can only spend on artifact.
Speaker 1: Shit.
Speaker 2: Sure, I think this is a good little card. It's
Speaker 2: a fine card in my vehicle deck. It's a two
Speaker 2: drop maniroc that gives me a manna to cast more vehicles. Yeah,
Speaker 2: or manor rocks or my commander because she's an artifact
Speaker 2: there you go. Yeah, it's Braa. I know I can't
Speaker 2: cast her with colorless, but like if she dies, you.
Speaker 1: Will have to color for cast over colorless eventually. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like that one. And just you know what,
Speaker 2: because it's a standard set, I always try and pick
Speaker 2: through and see like, oh, this is a good little
Speaker 2: common or this is a cool little Dreams of Laguna.
Speaker 1: Dreams of Laguna Laguna is the main It was played
Speaker 1: Final Fantasya if we're going to Laguna? Is Squall's dad?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I know? In Final Fantasy eight and there's this they're
Speaker 1: like these sequences where Squall, like in his party, like
Speaker 1: they fall into like a dream sort of state and
Speaker 1: they relive events of Laguna and the black guy there
Speaker 1: is Kiros and the little the big fat guy that's
Speaker 1: warred mm and they're like, dude, buddies are soldiers in
Speaker 1: this army in a war, and like you follow them
Speaker 1: around and you see some of the events that made
Speaker 1: the world all up. And everybody said that he should
Speaker 1: be the main character of the game because he's a
Speaker 1: much more likable character. And you know what, it's true.
Speaker 1: Oh he's an idiot. Also, he's also a fucking idiot.
Speaker 2: The card is good Surveil one, then draw card and
Speaker 2: it has flashback and it is an instant for blue one.
Speaker 2: Like that card's good. Yeah, if you think, if you play,
Speaker 2: like think twice if you play. I'm not comparing it
Speaker 2: to Brainstorm and Ponder and period in because those are
Speaker 2: on a different level because it costs one man, I
Speaker 2: know that. But decks that want those cards and thing
Speaker 2: twice and deep analysis deep deep analsis yeah, this card
Speaker 2: goes right and considers another one. Yeah, and alchemy, what's
Speaker 2: the alchemy? Want to flashback forbid in alchemy? It's another one?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, this is This is just one of
Speaker 2: those I.
Speaker 1: Gotta play those cards. Ryan, the hell am I supposed
Speaker 1: to know that? Shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, big shout out to Lunar Whale, just because any
Speaker 2: card with whale. I like to make your mother's huge
Speaker 2: ass joke to Uncle Brando.
Speaker 1: So I also want to point out that that's another
Speaker 1: vehicle you pointed out.
Speaker 2: No, no, what do you think.
Speaker 1: Of quistas trapee? What uh? That one?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I did see this trap blum age. For the record,
Speaker 1: my favorite final Fantasy.
Speaker 2: Class gives me samus aaron vibes. It's a human wizard
Speaker 2: when quistas trap.
Speaker 1: That's how I always say it.
Speaker 2: Man, that sounds like that sounds veneerialish. When it enters,
Speaker 2: you may cast target instance or source your card from
Speaker 2: your graveyard and mana cast any type and then you
Speaker 2: exile it. It's kind of like.
Speaker 1: It's like snapcast or made at home.
Speaker 2: Yes, a little bit different. It costs three I don't
Speaker 2: have flash but it lets you cast the thing from
Speaker 2: your graveyard, not like it gets flashback. Yeah, so flashback
Speaker 2: is an alternative cost. And if you can just cast,
Speaker 2: if you can quistis trape and then cast from your graveyard,
Speaker 2: you can cast stuff for its like alternative cost like
Speaker 2: overload and shit.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you can overload a rift from your band.
Speaker 2: And psychlonic rifts. You can't do that, like like with
Speaker 2: with snapcast, you can't pitch a blue card and pay
Speaker 2: a life to alternate cast force a will. But this
Speaker 2: you can, Oh, this is but this doesn't have flash.
Speaker 2: So it's like but.
Speaker 1: If you could blink it or something, yes, blue, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you could ever blink a card and
Speaker 1: blue you could possibly hypothetically exile the car and card
Speaker 1: and force something from the band.
Speaker 2: Or you could go quistas trape. Hey, I have a
Speaker 2: force will in my graveyard, so when you try to
Speaker 2: stop my game winning spell, I can actually counter it
Speaker 2: from my graveyard. And it doesn't need to have flash.
Speaker 2: You just have to like plan for it, which makes
Speaker 2: it not as good because you're giving away information. But
Speaker 2: it already costs three, so it isn't as good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fuck you. I think it's a cool card,
Speaker 1: though he'll see some play. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: in my list for tomorrow or not. I just read.
Speaker 2: It is Ultros Obnoxious Octopus.
Speaker 1: Of course, Ultros the Obnoxious Octopus is in there.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I think that's a terrible card, I really do, but
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see it show up in decks,
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited to have one in my greasy little.
Speaker 2: Yes, there are a couple octopus and cracking cards. Oh
Speaker 2: summon Leviathan. That was the card I was actually thinking about.
Speaker 2: It's a saga six to six Leviathan with ward two
Speaker 2: for six. Sure, okay, this is good. Chapter one, return
Speaker 2: each creature that isn't a crack and Leviathan Murph, folk,
Speaker 2: octopus or serpent to its owner's hand. Neat, let's put
Speaker 2: it right in the fricking sea creature's deck, sea monster's deck.
Speaker 2: And this is like ah or the murfolk deck poor
Speaker 2: man's fricking cyclonic riff, because that's a game changer in
Speaker 2: my decks. At two yeah, boom baby, and all of
Speaker 2: your murph folk that like gives shit island Walk and
Speaker 2: your ULA's Temple Shenanigan all a shit. This is included
Speaker 2: in that because it says murfolk on it. I like
Speaker 2: this card and untilling to turn this chapter two and
Speaker 2: three until end of turn whenever a crack and Leviathan murpholk,
Speaker 2: octopus or serpent attacks. Never mind damage attacks.
Speaker 1: You draw a card, I'm gonna have to get one
Speaker 1: of those for coma.
Speaker 2: Yes, because coma coils our serpents, aren't they.
Speaker 1: That's right?
Speaker 2: Frick this card's good. He'll be drawn on cards like
Speaker 2: it's your's.
Speaker 1: My job, yeah, not even my part time job.
Speaker 2: Full time job, full time job. You're gonna get like
Speaker 2: one of these fancy ones.
Speaker 1: Fancy why I will get a fancy one.
Speaker 2: That's a whole dollar ninety. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: can afford it.
Speaker 1: I mean after hey man, I did get my box today,
Speaker 1: so I can't afford much.
Speaker 2: How's your freaking ass?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. I had water soup for lunch today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you couldn't. Didn't even eat it up. I just put
Speaker 1: water in a pot. Could Yeah.
Speaker 2: Couldn't even afford crunchy water soup. That's ice cubes, that's right,
Speaker 2: that's soggy ice soup. Oh god. I had to stand
Speaker 2: outside with my head tilted up towards the sky and
Speaker 2: let it rain in my mouth. That's how poor I am.
Speaker 1: What is like scrolling through black cards together?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, scrolling through black cards. There's no there's good cards,
Speaker 2: but you know what black I really felt it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this one's a demon, this one's a Black Mage, which
Speaker 2: which are very good. Yeah, this one has to do
Speaker 2: something with dragons, and I'm like, oh, okay, this is black.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, they're doing black. So there's a there's a
Speaker 1: Dark Confidant reprint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right in the main set. I guess that's normal, right,
Speaker 2: if they're gonna do something like that, it's in a
Speaker 2: special guest slot or it's in the main set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did it in the main set. Good
Speaker 1: on them. That's a that's a cool card. Back into
Speaker 1: standard for the first time in a while. I think, so,
Speaker 1: mm hmm, that's that's gonna be interesting at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I like overkill.
Speaker 1: I love overkilling. I like that card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, give it a read.
Speaker 1: Overkill is an instant for Black two. Target Creister gets
Speaker 1: minus zero, minus nine, thy nine and ninety nine until
Speaker 1: underturn that kills.
Speaker 2: Everything everything that you can target yes does is nine
Speaker 2: hundred is ninety nine. The most damage you can take
Speaker 2: in Final Fantasy.
Speaker 1: Under most circumstances. Yes, there are very few. There are
Speaker 1: minuscule amounts of times when you can do more. Okay,
Speaker 1: but god damn, that's pretty cool. I just like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna cook somebody's goat. What do you think of this?
Speaker 2: Mother?
Speaker 1: I think he might be on my list for tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But oh, Vincent Valentine, Yeah, that's it sounds like a
Speaker 2: sounds like he's in adult films.
Speaker 1: He is the most I think he might be the
Speaker 1: most jerk off character that I've ever seen, Like, whoever
Speaker 1: invented that wants to be Vincent more than sephar Off? Yes,
Speaker 1: more than Seph the.
Speaker 2: Carter the dude. Oh look at this fricking forty four
Speaker 2: mag Hey, he's like Lynn Eastwood's gonna play him in
Speaker 2: the next movie.
Speaker 1: He's like a freaking he's a vampire spy ninja who
Speaker 1: has a gun and turns into a chainsaw wielding maniac
Speaker 1: that was a hockey mask, a crazy demon that's on
Speaker 1: the backside of this card.
Speaker 2: So he's Casey from Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Casey from Ninja Turtles. He's Jason Vo He's
Speaker 1: he's a vampire ninja spy like it's He's everything amazing.
Speaker 1: And he had his own.
Speaker 2: Spinoff game, his own spinoff game, his own spin off
Speaker 2: game you ever played?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was actually quite good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally played it all the time too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Third Person Shooter was a fun game. It was
Speaker 1: legitimately a fun game. Oh, George of Cerberus, it was
Speaker 1: quite good.
Speaker 2: I like the card right beside it, Vincent's Limit break. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is going into my alenda, the dusk Ros deck.
Speaker 2: Of course it is, Yeah, of course it is. It's
Speaker 2: another one with tiered. It's an instant mind you black one,
Speaker 2: tier zero or tier one I guess is h zero
Speaker 2: extra mana and until ended turntarget creature you control gains.
Speaker 2: When this creature dies, it comes back tapped with whatever
Speaker 2: power and toughness depending on what tier you pick. Okay,
Speaker 2: and for zero extra mana, my alendo will come back
Speaker 2: as a three to two. So if it immediately dies again,
Speaker 2: I'll get three guys if it comes If I pay
Speaker 2: one extra, it comes back as a five to two.
Speaker 2: If I pay three extra, so five total. It gets
Speaker 2: reanimated instantly dies and etb's and if it dies again,
Speaker 2: it'll give me seven guys because it comes back as
Speaker 2: a seven to two.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I like that. It's kind of like a counterspell for
Speaker 2: a removal spell. It kind of auto pumps a lenda.
Speaker 2: If I can give a lend a haste, I can
Speaker 2: swing for seven maybe good Man. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Dece card did he more like decee knots am? I right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Yeah, I got you do. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I hope that the microphone picked up. Me and Gary
Speaker 2: were exactly on the same pitch too.
Speaker 1: They mustard they're very good microphones.
Speaker 2: Uh, do you have any red cards like any? Just
Speaker 2: like I've done a couple of throwaway cards that are
Speaker 2: only cool to me, do you have any red cards
Speaker 2: like that? I was gonna ask you nibbleheim a flame,
Speaker 2: nibbleheim a flame.
Speaker 1: Yep, there's all sorts of reasons why I like discard.
Speaker 2: I want to get nibbleheim a flame. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It goes right into my tralph deck. Okay, it does
Speaker 1: lots of damage. It's kind of a Chondre's ignition. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think it is exactly Chondre's ignition, except that has flashback.
Speaker 1: But it also has one of the.
Speaker 2: Big hold on. Let me let me give it a
Speaker 2: read red Red two sorcery. Choose target creature you control.
Speaker 2: It deals damage equal to its power to each other creature.
Speaker 2: Not player. Yeah, if this spell was cast from your graveyard,
Speaker 2: discard your hand and draw.
Speaker 1: Four, and then it's got flashback for seven. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't hate that.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna stick that into to Ralph because that's
Speaker 1: what I'm doing anyway. And then in the art it's
Speaker 1: like the big iconic scene where Zephyroth has burned down
Speaker 1: Cloud and Tifa's hometown and he's like standing in the
Speaker 1: fire and he like turns around all epic, like, well,
Speaker 1: clouds all in all fucked.
Speaker 2: Up, a worse.
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing. I'm laying here, but I'm not
Speaker 1: dead somehow. Is he a wis Oh yeah, okay, oh
Speaker 1: yeah huge, he's a huge.
Speaker 2: Are people on the internet going to get mad at
Speaker 2: you for that?
Speaker 1: No, it's what happens. If you don't know that Cloud
Speaker 1: was a big wimp at that time in his life,
Speaker 1: then you haven't played the game, and you should be.
Speaker 1: It's a very fun game. But then he turns around
Speaker 1: and kind of gives him the like sinister eyes and
Speaker 1: like walks away into the fire. It's pretty cool, into
Speaker 1: the fire.
Speaker 2: Doesn't he get burned?
Speaker 1: No, because he's too bad. He's so emo that him
Speaker 1: not having a mom that loved him enough gives him
Speaker 1: protection from fire. Later on, he gains protection from radiation
Speaker 1: because his dad was mean to him.
Speaker 2: That doesn't whoa, that's fantastical. I know, I know what else?
Speaker 2: What else do you got for red?
Speaker 1: It's very fantasy. I like the little cactus guy Sabo Tender.
Speaker 2: Sabo Tender is a one a two to one for
Speaker 2: two with reach. Whenever a land you control enters, this
Speaker 2: creature deals one to each opponent. I actually might play
Speaker 2: that card.
Speaker 1: That's a cool card. I like that lots. It goes
Speaker 1: in lands decks and it's a funny little plant guy.
Speaker 1: There's reach for no reason.
Speaker 2: Because he's tall. There's a card. There's a card that
Speaker 2: does that, but it costs three mana. This costs two mana. Precisely,
Speaker 2: this is going to go into my lands deck and
Speaker 2: do me one less damage from ad Nazi land deck
Speaker 2: gets a little bit better. That's important.
Speaker 1: It's a good card.
Speaker 2: Did they definitely just rip off Sandworm from like twenty
Speaker 2: five different movies? Yes, okay, yes, that's all I needed
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible boss fight and final Fantasy five also
Speaker 1: Triple Triad. Baby, we're gonna talk about that one tomorrow
Speaker 1: for sure, not right now. Cripple Track, Well, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be good. I'm gonna tell you all about Triple Tryad
Speaker 1: on the show too. You're gonna be like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is this all? That's what you're gonna say. As
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, I will point out Bart's and Boco
Speaker 1: because he's the only final Fantasy Vive character that got
Speaker 1: any love at all, and I think he's going to
Speaker 1: go into the the burb deck that they're sort of
Speaker 1: pushing for Commander, and I would say maybe for like
Speaker 1: Limitar or maybe Standard. Do you think they're pushing it hard?
Speaker 2: I have a bird deck and it's a Zorious and
Speaker 2: it's Guy here from Lord of the Rings. But now
Speaker 2: all bird decks should be Bant decks and they should
Speaker 2: have green in them, and that would make them better.
Speaker 2: And I go, ah, shucks.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that on the show tomorrow too,
Speaker 1: about the guy. But I want to point out Barts
Speaker 1: and Boco because he's he's pretty cool and he's a
Speaker 1: good main character.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you like the ancient and Damn Man toys?
Speaker 1: A damn toys? I know that's a big tea coat's favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Turtle's he's eight twenty Yeah, eight twenty eight twenty
Speaker 2: still dies from overkill.
Speaker 1: For the record, yes, his overkill still kills him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: very much so. But he actually is pretty cool. There's
Speaker 1: all sorts of combos with him where you just just
Speaker 1: can't die.
Speaker 2: Just dumpster them, just take fricking to everybody's gonna fight him.
Speaker 2: He doesn't even care.
Speaker 1: Just prevent damage to him, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you're invincible.
Speaker 2: Yes, because he takes all your damas that's right. Yes,
Speaker 2: he put Pariah on him and then just like no,
Speaker 2: Paria makes him take all your damage. Yes, he already
Speaker 2: does that.
Speaker 1: He already does take all your Damage're gonna put something
Speaker 1: like protection from creatures or something on him and then
Speaker 1: unquestioned authority or indestructible.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one. Just yeah, for the record,
Speaker 2: overkill would still get him, Yes, because overkill still gets him,
Speaker 2: which is pretty good. I like that card. I like
Speaker 2: that card. Okay, what about artifacts?
Speaker 1: Should we talk about Jumbo Caactar again? No, he does
Speaker 1: do He does do ten thousand damage though, biggest creature
Speaker 1: in magic history.
Speaker 2: It's not even lots. He's a one seven. He isn't
Speaker 2: the biggest creature. I'm looking at what's printed on the card,
Speaker 2: a stupid mustache.
Speaker 1: Hang on this. We want to talk about my people.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Quina Coo Gourmet because we
Speaker 1: are both friends and enemies because I think he is
Speaker 1: or she is, a frog, but she also likes to
Speaker 1: eat frogs.
Speaker 2: Oh that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: But she also makes frogs. So if you make tokens,
Speaker 1: in addition to all of the tokens you made, you
Speaker 1: also get a frog.
Speaker 2: Kind of like shatter gang bang shatter. Yes, a squirrel guy, yes,
Speaker 2: except for frog.
Speaker 1: Just like that, except you make frog instead of squirrel.
Speaker 1: I think those I think I like cards like that.
Speaker 1: I do like cards like that. You make a treasure
Speaker 1: token and a frog.
Speaker 2: Peregrine took is like that too. You make token plus food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like things that do stuff like that
Speaker 1: because they go right into lots of different decks and
Speaker 1: usually it makes like a funny little token. And I
Speaker 1: hopefully I can find a frog token because I'm excited
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: Well, if there's frog tokens in a modern day set,
Speaker 2: they're going to give you one. You might have to
Speaker 2: make one.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh look out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, arties, got any arties because because all of like
Speaker 2: the fricking multicolored ones are legendary. Yeah, they're all legends,
Speaker 2: and they're like everyone.
Speaker 1: Hey, I think maybe yeah, everyone.
Speaker 2: And then everybody's talking about blitz ball. I think, right,
Speaker 2: add one to your manipool and you can sacrifice to
Speaker 2: draw two. But only if you if your was delt
Speaker 2: damaged by a legendary creature.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody talking about it, but here they are.
Speaker 1: What's that ability called Ryan? Yeah, you walked right into
Speaker 1: that one. I was gonna let you a way. I
Speaker 1: was there, you go.
Speaker 2: I don't want to keep doing it.
Speaker 1: I like Buster sword. I think that's a cool one.
Speaker 2: It does follow the sword convention. Actually it doesn't.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. For two, that's the same, that's the
Speaker 2: sword convention.
Speaker 1: It gives plus three plus two, which.
Speaker 2: Is it's a bigger sword. Look, it is very large.
Speaker 1: And then whenever a quip creature is combat damage to
Speaker 1: a player draw card, then you can cast a spell
Speaker 1: from your hand with man of value equal to or
Speaker 1: less than, or it's less than less than the damage
Speaker 1: adult for free.
Speaker 2: I don't hate that.
Speaker 1: That's pretty fucking good. It's a good card. Yeah, extended
Speaker 1: arts of those foil one hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because weep stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hastik weep his Buster sword.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like how Okay answer me this, then
Speaker 2: we'll then we'll go to the real show. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: There's a card called Excalibur two. Is that because it's
Speaker 2: called that? Or is it we already have a card
Speaker 2: called Excalibur and they fucking printed another one. I don't
Speaker 2: know the answer to this question.
Speaker 1: In actual Final Fantasy Lord, one of the best strongest
Speaker 1: swords you can get is Excalibur for the reasons that
Speaker 1: you are aware of, because King Arthur and all that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: then Excalibur two is one of the legendary fabled swords
Speaker 1: and it's in Final Fantasy nine and it's like Steiner's
Speaker 1: ultimate weapon. But there's also another sword called escalop Poor
Speaker 1: and it's like the worst sword you can.
Speaker 2: Get, excalib Poor. That's the one that we're.
Speaker 1: Right, that's probably the exact one that we would get. So,
Speaker 1: but it's a ship. Let's talk about this last one.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this too.
Speaker 2: I want to equip my Parheli in two with my
Speaker 2: Excalibur two when it's vehicled.
Speaker 1: I want that to happen.
Speaker 2: Is that like for you?
Speaker 1: Is that like two sception Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay poopoo ufo. Yes, it wasn't two two
Speaker 2: U four then we'd have two and two and two
Speaker 2: and two.
Speaker 1: Oh you can use two ufo to poo poo on you.
Speaker 1: There you go. It's a flying zero four for two
Speaker 1: you can get already. You can tap it to put
Speaker 1: a land from your hand into play. Sure, that's neat,
Speaker 1: and then you can pay three intil end of turn.
Speaker 1: This creature has base power equal to the number of
Speaker 1: lands you have.
Speaker 2: Now, towns, towns you have? Oh, that's less good.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about towns tomorrows. Ok, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about them too. Yes, because there's a there's a they
Speaker 1: did that again. They've built a commander deck in the set,
Speaker 1: kind of like they did in Assassin's Creed. You have
Speaker 1: like here's the Assassin deck. They've done that here where
Speaker 1: I think that they were like, hey, we're sorry for
Speaker 1: taking away golos, but they're not really sorry. So we're
Speaker 1: going to give you this kind of less good analogue.
Speaker 2: Mmm. You know, I don't hate that. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that it provides a little bit of like they're telling
Speaker 2: you that this is the power level that you want,
Speaker 2: that they want you to play at, Like this is
Speaker 2: kind of what will be fun. Trust us, we know
Speaker 2: what we're doing. We're all professional game designers and magic players,
Speaker 2: and we care about it having fun because that's what
Speaker 2: is exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, So use what we're telling you, not what's banned.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't mind that, and I actually think that again.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this more in depth tomorrow. If you
Speaker 1: know who we're talking about, you can be entered to
Speaker 1: win a CEO sticker pack huh, Ceco Token path or
Speaker 1: a plain little shit bag pack full of magic h Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if if you're watching on YouTube, which should be,
Speaker 2: you would see that I don't have my regular computer again,
Speaker 2: not because I forgot it, because the battery's dead and
Speaker 2: my phone over beside producer Gary charging, so I can't
Speaker 2: look up last week's winner.
Speaker 1: So we'll get you next week. We'll get you on
Speaker 1: the flip flop. All sorts of winners are gonna win.
Speaker 1: Now before we go, before we go to the real show,
Speaker 1: we do have to talk about one more thing because
Speaker 1: we might not have time tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Man, there's lots of towns.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then we're gonna talk about that's more for sure.
Speaker 1: I just want to mention one thing just in case
Speaker 1: we don't have time. The Basics in this set. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's sixteen of them because there's one waste and there's
Speaker 1: three of each other. Basic type.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I really really like that each game got a basic
Speaker 1: I think that's cool. Remember we talked about on an
Speaker 1: preview and speculations show, how are they gonna do this?
Speaker 1: What are they gonna do for like the basics? And
Speaker 1: I think what they did was actually really really cool
Speaker 1: and the games that I'm really familiar with, I recognize
Speaker 1: all of these places for the games that I'm familiar with,
Speaker 1: Oh right, which is I think they a really good job.
Speaker 1: And I didn't have any idea at all what they
Speaker 1: were going to do, and they surprised me very pleasantly.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to give a shout out to the
Speaker 1: artists and the design team that did a very very
Speaker 1: good job. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that the lands look they look like magic
Speaker 2: lands and high fantasy lands, and they don't say like
Speaker 2: Fallout did this is Fallout except for that except for
Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, that one. That one actually says this
Speaker 2: is fallout to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the planes with the highway, Yes has fallout to me?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah. What what I mean is they don't say
Speaker 2: this is final Fantasy. These are your lands for your
Speaker 2: final fantasy. They don't say that to me. There's nothing
Speaker 2: saying like final Fantasy, New Vegas on it, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just look like magic card lands.
Speaker 1: There's some cool lands like the Volcano. All play this
Speaker 1: with dragons because it's got volcanoes on it. I think
Speaker 1: that's neat. I just wanted to point those out because
Speaker 1: I forgot to do it every week up until now,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do it now while it's in my brain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stop forgetting so much stuff.
Speaker 1: You can't do much brain damage, That's true. Jenny Concusso's Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't hit.
Speaker 2: Your heads kids, wear a helmet. Four ninety five. Man,
Speaker 2: we're getting Is that where we're at?
Speaker 1: That's where we're at.
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