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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'mdell you easy Boston

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, the weekend approaches. It's not Saint Patrick's Day weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not a long weekend, and we can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sit back and kick back and enjoy the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things that many people do on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend is they try to find, oh, maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>new restaurant, a restaurant that they haven't been to before.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we thought, and we haven't done this before,

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<v Speaker 2>that we would try to help you out. Maybe you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a restaurant in your neighborhood that might not

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<v Speaker 2>be the most expensive, but might really be good. And

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<v Speaker 2>if there's one person who knows a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>hidden gems of restaurants in the greater Boston area, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Hurwitz who joins us. Mark has been a writer

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<v Speaker 2>in this field for many years. He primarily works for

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<v Speaker 2>NBC ten. He's a food writer there. And Mark, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>very much for joining us on a Friday night and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe providing some guidance to some of our listeners. They

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<v Speaker 2>can pick your brain. I'm going to pick your brain too,

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<v Speaker 2>about some of the great restaurants that maybe most of

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<v Speaker 2>us some of us haven't heard about. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing Dan? Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely. I will tell you that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>period of time, a long, long time ago when I

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<v Speaker 2>lived in Boston, in the city, when I knew the

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<v Speaker 2>great restaurants and all of that. But times have changed

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<v Speaker 2>and the city's a little more difficult to get into

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<v Speaker 2>for those of us who don't live in the city proper,

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<v Speaker 2>and parking is becoming more difficult, Navigating the streets of

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<v Speaker 2>Boston is becoming more difficult. How's the restaurant seen generally?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have as good a sense of this

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<v Speaker 2>as anybody I could imagine. Is the restaurants seen? When

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<v Speaker 2>I say Boston's, we're also talking Great Boston too, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's great restaurants in some of these the suburban towns

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Overall, what sort of a rating would you

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<v Speaker 2>give the restaurant scene in greater Boston at this point

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<v Speaker 2>in time?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a little choppy. So ever since the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's what five years now, it was booming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was booming until early twenty twenty, and then, of

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<v Speaker 4>course it's all off a cliff.

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<v Speaker 3>So everyone was.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing takeout and delivery, or a lot of plays just

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<v Speaker 4>shut down tempor earlier permanently, and then they slowly clawed

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<v Speaker 4>their way back, and you know what, by last year

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<v Speaker 4>things were going pretty well. There are pockets of areas

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<v Speaker 4>that are still hurting because like office space, people might

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<v Speaker 4>not have come back into the office is like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>downtown Boston, it's been a little slow, Kendall Square a

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<v Speaker 4>little slow. But lately it feels a little I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it depends on where you go again, but I've

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<v Speaker 4>been in a lot of empty restaurants lately. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a little nervous because there's so many restaurants, new restaurants

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<v Speaker 4>that have opened lately, and I am finding even on

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<v Speaker 4>weekends it's it's you can walk into most restaurants now

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<v Speaker 4>there's no lines at all. It's a little worrisome.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I can remember, you know, a time when it

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<v Speaker 2>was tough to get restaurant reservations. Oh there's always some

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<v Speaker 2>restaurants that you just impossible to get, you know, small,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hot restaurants. But why is it? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty twenty was five years ago. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>when we were doing our grocery shopping at six am

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning and bringing home can goods and wiping

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<v Speaker 2>them off before you would bring them in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, I look back on that, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, how weird was that. I mean, kids are

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<v Speaker 2>going to our great kids are going to laugh at

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<v Speaker 2>us and say you were wiping off can goods before

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<v Speaker 2>you brought them in the house. But that's what we

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<v Speaker 2>was told to do. Yeah, you know, the Seaport was

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<v Speaker 2>open back in twenty twenty. How much of a hit

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<v Speaker 2>did the Seaport take as the newest, you know, restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>district in Boston did they Did they get hit harder

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<v Speaker 2>than others or have they bounced back more quickly than others.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Seaport did a little better than people

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<v Speaker 4>might think. So, you know, people think that, oh, you

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<v Speaker 4>know seaports, it's a lot of new apartments and condos,

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<v Speaker 4>so people recently moved in. It's mostly people who live

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<v Speaker 4>there who go to restaurants. And you know, there are

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<v Speaker 4>some tourists who come in there too, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>come during the pandemic. And you know, I think, along

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<v Speaker 4>with every other part of the area, they were hit

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<v Speaker 4>during the pandemic. But you know, I go to the

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<v Speaker 4>Seaport a lot, and I think they're doing pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think some of the restaurants there are the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that you cannot get into because they're so busy. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>I really think, I really think the Seaport has done

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<v Speaker 4>a good job. And I know some people will agree

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<v Speaker 4>with me on that, but I go down there and

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of booming, really, especially compared to say downtown

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<v Speaker 4>Boston Financial District, maybe Kendall Square, you know, some places

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<v Speaker 4>like that that are almost all office space.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that the Financial District is hurt during the

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<v Speaker 2>day because those those office desks haven't been filled up again.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also assume that because there aren't that many

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<v Speaker 2>people hanging out during the day in the Financial District,

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<v Speaker 2>that some of those bars and restaurants which all of

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<v Speaker 2>us knew, you know, five ten years ago, they probably

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<v Speaker 2>have shut itered.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, Yeah, a lot of them have closed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I write a lot of news stories on opening and closings,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of those little independent restaurants and some

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<v Speaker 4>of the chains they have shut down, mostly right in

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<v Speaker 4>the heart of Financial District. So we're not talking Chinatown.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not talking Daniel Hall, but you know they area

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<v Speaker 4>Broad Street, High Street, Milk Street. A lot of those

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<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of those places are hurting. Not

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<v Speaker 4>so much the Friday night bars. You know, those places

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<v Speaker 4>have done okay, But if you're talking about the breakfast

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<v Speaker 4>and lunch spots, a lot of turnover and people have

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<v Speaker 4>some people have come back to the offices there, but

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<v Speaker 4>not everybody. You know, there's still a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>work at home, and I think that's that could be permanent.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the way things are these days for us,

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<v Speaker 4>people working at home, and the same in the suburbs.

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<v Speaker 4>People do work at home now more than before the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, I want to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to invite people to call and if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a great restaurant that you really like and you

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<v Speaker 2>want to share it with well, with me and Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd appreciate it, and Mark will give you compare notes

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<v Speaker 2>with you on it. I'd like to find out if

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<v Speaker 2>Boston is doing better in terms of restaurants in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the squares around you know ros Roslyndale Square, Claire

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<v Speaker 2>Square in Hyde Park, you know, Mattapan, Blue Hill Avenue.

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<v Speaker 2>If if there's a resurgence of people finding good restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>in those areas as opposed to driving into downtown Boston

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<v Speaker 2>or going to the North End, which of course is

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<v Speaker 2>always a great place to go if you can find

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<v Speaker 2>a parking space. My guest Mark Rwitz. Mark is with

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<v Speaker 2>NBC Boston. He is a food writer. He's also written written.

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<v Speaker 2>His work has appeared in a litany of other places.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll ask Mark about that as well. But we come back, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about some of the different aspects of Boston

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<v Speaker 2>because we're just not going to talk about Boston downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk about that, but we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about some of the community restaurants and then also some

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<v Speaker 2>of the restaurants in now the city's Cambridge, Wealthy and Watertown, Somerville,

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<v Speaker 2>h Revere, all sorts of the communities that surround our

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<v Speaker 2>city are the capital city. So feel free if you

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<v Speaker 2>got a question and you're looking for if you were

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a great type restaurant this weekend to impress someone,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that Mark could give you a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>ideas as well. Six one, seven, two, five four thirty

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<v Speaker 2>or six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Mark

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<v Speaker 2>has told us that He would be happy to stay

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<v Speaker 2>with us for an hour, but I think you'd be

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<v Speaker 2>smart if you get on early. We're coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside with my guest, Mark Hurwitz, a restaurant critic. There's

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<v Speaker 2>nobody that I know in Boston that knows the restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>seen better than Mark, and that's why we have them

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<v Speaker 2>here tonight. Back on night Side right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Mark, We're going to do is We're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make people wait in the phone. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get the phone calls. And I've got a number of

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<v Speaker 2>areas I want to cover, but I want to accommodate

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<v Speaker 2>callers and encourage people but to call and ask questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Larry down on the Cape. Larry

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<v Speaker 2>you wan my guess, Mark Hurwitz. He is a food writer,

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<v Speaker 2>works primarily at NBC ten, but he's written for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other places that you're familiar with. Go right ahead, Larry,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a question or comment?

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<v Speaker 4>I have a comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So a lot of people from the Boston area come

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<v Speaker 4>down to the Cape for vacation. Sure, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to give them the best kept secret in Dennis.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, here we go. Listen up, people take coats.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, okay, And I know you spend time down

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<v Speaker 4>the Cape, so a little bit. Okay. There is a

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<v Speaker 4>place on the north side of Dennis. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 4>of the marsh Side Restaurant?

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<v Speaker 2>Never have marsh Side Restaurant?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well that's not the one I'm gonna talk about anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>This place is right next to it. The name of

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<v Speaker 4>the place is Ummammy Pizza. You m a m i

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<v Speaker 4>ummmmi pizza and fusion. And they have a pizza there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called New Haven Style clam Pie. It's clams, bacon, cheese,

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<v Speaker 4>olive oil, and it's to die for.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a big clam guy. Can I get it? Just

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<v Speaker 2>with the with the bacon.

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<v Speaker 4>It's cape cod Dan, Come.

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<v Speaker 2>On, I get it. I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my tip for the night. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>I missed your last episode because I was picking up

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<v Speaker 4>my daughter at the airport, who lives at the most

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<v Speaker 4>friendly country in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know exactly where she lives, Kaboul in Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have her or give me a call or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever and I'll talk with her next weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll try you in the next couple of days when

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<v Speaker 4>she settles in.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great, sounds great. Thank you, Thanks Claire, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you let me ask Mark? Mark, have you do

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<v Speaker 2>you have any knowledge of the Cape restaurants scene as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is a very vibrant scene, trust me, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>between a Memorial Day and Labor Day.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've actually been to marsh Side. I believe it's

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<v Speaker 4>not the restaurant. I think that's the one. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>special table, round table that overlooks the Marsh is just

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<v Speaker 4>a beautiful space. I have been there. It's a great spot.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize there was a Haven style pizza place

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<v Speaker 4>in that area long or off Strafford sixth Day. I

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<v Speaker 4>love new Haven style pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that one that you would recommend? You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>the summertime, it's impossible. I worked Monday through Friday and

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, it's tougher to get tables on the

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, I mean that's why everybody, everybody has left

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<v Speaker 2>the Cape. So let's talk about restaurants. You know, Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>and Clary Square and the different squares around Center Street

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<v Speaker 2>you are in technically Boston, but they're not downtown Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Mayor Menino called it Main Streets. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a very good program. How are those restaurants doing, because

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think, you know, it's interesting, the further you

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<v Speaker 4>into the restaurants. So it's it's actually a little like

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<v Speaker 4>the suburbs, especially satellite suburbs like Burlington, Braintree, Peevity, where

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<v Speaker 4>it's tough to get a table. You go to places

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<v Speaker 4>like Rossendale's Square to make a plane. Maybe parts of Dorchester,

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<v Speaker 4>like Lower Mills or Adams Village, Adams Village. It's tough

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<v Speaker 4>are doing really well, and I think it's because you

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<v Speaker 4>So they're doing really well.

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<v Speaker 2>But also the amount of money that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>drop at a restaurant in you know, Adams Square, Adams Circle,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever on Adams Street is going to be a heck

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot less than when you when you go downtown,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be a lot less aggravation. So

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<v Speaker 2>again I just have become much more of an anti

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<v Speaker 2>downtown guy. It's just not worth the aggravation anymore. War

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't work downtown. I never worked downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>during the day, and but I worked in television at night.

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<v Speaker 2>So my base of operation was Soldiers Field Road. But

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<v Speaker 2>it what give us give us two or three restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe most people haven't heard of, but they they

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<v Speaker 2>are their secret gems that that people will not be

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<v Speaker 4>Are you talking within Boston city limits or or anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's try Let's let's try Boston city limits however you

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<v Speaker 2>want to define it, and then we can move out

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<v Speaker 2>into the suburbs a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, one that's been around forever, and I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people still don't know about it as

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<v Speaker 4>a pleasant cafe in Rossendale. I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 4>been there, but seriously, one of the best pieces I've had,

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<v Speaker 3>It is that good.

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<v Speaker 4>And the thing is it's old school. There's one side

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<v Speaker 4>and Keno, and the other side is a restaurant with

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<v Speaker 4>all these wooden boots and they have the steam radiators

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<v Speaker 4>and the servers who have been there forever, and they

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<v Speaker 4>call you honey and sweetie. You know, it feels a

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<v Speaker 4>little like the old Doyle's in Jamaica Plaine, and it

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<v Speaker 2>I can't right, is that right in the square?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's up the hill. It's near the West Roxbury

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<v Speaker 4>border on Washington Street, so as you head out of

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<v Speaker 4>Rosendale Square heading up the hill toward right there, heading

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<v Speaker 4>towards den Him. Yeah, exactly. So that's a really great

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<v Speaker 4>most other places. You know, I don't go to restaurants

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<v Speaker 4>and repeat much because I'm always reviewing, but that's the

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<v Speaker 4>one I go to when I take the reviewer's head off.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's one. Another one I like, is uh the

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<v Speaker 4>Galway House in Jamaica. Plane, it's it's old school, another

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<v Speaker 4>old school place. You go there for their fish chips

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, maybe their steak tips or the chicken palm.

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<v Speaker 4>From the outside, the Galway House looks a little dicey,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not. You know, it looks like a dive bar,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's really not a dive bar because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the harder Jamaica Plane, it's it's gender five. There's there's

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<v Speaker 4>nothing really scarying down in the downtown area anymore, so

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<v Speaker 4>that's definitely hit in Gem. I absolutely love that place.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had someone who and I just happened to

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<v Speaker 2>Meg call, uh send me a text here just a

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<v Speaker 2>we love a grill in tavern in Arlington. Fresh great

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<v Speaker 2>fresh food, great cocktails, wonderful staff. And I probably won't

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<v Speaker 2>pronounce this correctly, and I wish that Meg had called

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<v Speaker 2>in so she could pronounce it. Uh, monotymy grill? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever heard of that in in Arlington? Monotymy grill?

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<v Speaker 2>Enemy y Have I mispronounced it?

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's the old name for Arlington. Arlington used to

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<v Speaker 4>be called Mononymou, and that's where they got the name.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's you know, it's a very nice place for

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<v Speaker 4>you know, American food, maybe new American food. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>call it up scale, but maybe leaning toward casual upscale.

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<v Speaker 4>They do music, they have events there, and they have

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<v Speaker 4>good beers. And that's an interesting thing because Arlington used

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<v Speaker 4>to be a dry town. Though you would not go

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<v Speaker 4>to Arlington if you wanted to have a beer or

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<v Speaker 4>hind with your meal, and now you can go to

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<v Speaker 4>on Re Tavern or a few other places in town

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<v Speaker 4>and get a nice meal and maybe glass of wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that that's a good That is a good

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<v Speaker 2>suggestion a lot of Again, I want others to join

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to find you know, if you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for a specific type restaurant this weekend an Italian restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing an event with nightside listeners and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't want to use this as a plug,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a restaurant that Bill and Bowl Winnaker really

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<v Speaker 2>think is great in Westwood. And again I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how far you get out in that direction. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>Naroli any r O l I. They claim that it's

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the best restaurants that I've ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on Route one A in Westwood. No problem with parking.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a parking space behind the restaurant him on

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<v Speaker 2>street parking without meters, which is my idea for the

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<v Speaker 2>way the world should be. And we're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>a brunch there on April twenty seventh with night Side Listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard of this? It's an Italian restaurant

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<v Speaker 4>Think isn't that's fairly new, isn't it isn't. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's in Islington maybe, which is within Westwood. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 4>sure that's a fairly new place. So you said it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, it's one A. It's on Washington Street, two

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two Washington Street. And yeah, I'm familiar that Islington

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<v Speaker 2>is sort of like a sub section of either Denham

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<v Speaker 2>or Westwood. I've seen the signs entering Islington leaving Islington.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that big. But yeah, well again, I just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for ideas and looking for suggestions. My guest

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<v Speaker 2>Has to be a nice job to have to just

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<v Speaker 2>go around and enjoy food at different rest Are you

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<v Speaker 2>able to metabolize this food? Mark? I hope that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not putting on extra weight here and if you if

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<v Speaker 2>you are, we have awakened one to eighty, which will

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<v Speaker 2>help you out. By the way, how many nights a

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<v Speaker 2>week do you eat out? Seriously?

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<v Speaker 4>And people always ask me that they just assume I'm

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<v Speaker 4>out every single night. You know, I may I probably have.

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<v Speaker 4>I go out to eat maybe i'd say three times

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<v Speaker 4>a week. And I'm also a hike leader for the

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<v Speaker 4>Appalachian Mountain Clubs, so I actually did. I did fifty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand vertical feet of hiking last year alone, So it

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<v Speaker 4>balances out. So, you know, somehow I'm under two hundred pounds,

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<v Speaker 4>and I do go out to eat a lot, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's you know, I have a hike tomorrow morning, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>so it all balances out. But yeah, i'd say maybe

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<v Speaker 4>two or three times a week, and I cook a

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<v Speaker 4>lot at home, so it's not quite as much as

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay. You've You've built up over the years quite

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<v Speaker 2>a retinue of restaurants. My guess, Mark Hurwitz, NBC ten

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<v Speaker 2>food writer here in Boston, been doing it for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and he knows this city well well. I have. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a million other questions about restaurants, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you do as well. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten,

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<v Speaker 2>got a quick news break here and we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark's gonna stick with us until eleven o'clock and then

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<v Speaker 2>change topics and talk about the retail change that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of a couple and I suspect most

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside with Mark Hurwitz, food writer. Back right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>With me is food writer Mark Hurwitz. Uh. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a font of information. So there's just probably no restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>that you can mention him. You know, one that I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to throw out there, which I know is

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<v Speaker 2>a favorite of not only mine but also my colleague

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan White, is the Midway Cafe, the Midway restaurant over

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<v Speaker 2>in Dedham, just over the West Roxbury line out of

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Street. Have you been to the Midway or no?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I've been there many times. In fact, I was

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<v Speaker 4>there the night that the NBA shut down during the

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<v Speaker 4>at the start of the pandemic. That's when I found

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<v Speaker 4>out that this thing was real at the pandemic. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been there countless times for their meat low they

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<v Speaker 4>have a what is a porterhouse, sporkshop something like that

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<v Speaker 4>and everything. The burghers are great. The turkey chili, I

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<v Speaker 4>love that place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's the sort of place that you walk

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<v Speaker 2>into and you walk out and you city yourself. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that was great. And it didn't cost me at arm

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<v Speaker 2>and a leg. I mean it's moderately priced. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that owns a Bob Jenks is a great guy

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<v Speaker 2>and he and his wife have it and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's comfortable. The boots are comfortable, the bar is comfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>and this the parking isn't bad. And if you uh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know where it is, easy in, easy out,

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<v Speaker 2>it's on on good good roads. Those are the sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of places that that I tend to like housing. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>switch from Dedham and Westwood. Uh and if any of

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<v Speaker 2>these restaurants that I've mentioned you folks like, feel free

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<v Speaker 2>to join the conversation. We got some calls coming in

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<v Speaker 2>right now. We'll get to those as well. Tell me

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<v Speaker 2>about the North End. How's the North End doing. I

422
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<v Speaker 2>know they've had the fight over there over the outdoor

423
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<v Speaker 2>dining with the mayor. And I love the North End,

424
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<v Speaker 2>but it's tough to get to there is no parking.

425
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<v Speaker 2>I got to believe that that it's that things are

426
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<v Speaker 2>are not as as good as they were a few

427
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<v Speaker 2>years ago. In the North End.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tough to, you know, on weekends, and I go

429
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<v Speaker 4>there a lot, and I'm one of those The North

430
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<v Speaker 4>End is lightning rod. I mean, I know people, including

431
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<v Speaker 4>some food critics, who won't go there, and and I

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<v Speaker 4>love it. I just love everything about the North End.

433
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<v Speaker 4>And on the weekends, I mean it is, it is packed,

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<v Speaker 4>especially on nice weekends in the spring summer. So I

435
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<v Speaker 4>think they're doing pretty well. I'm sure that there are

436
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<v Speaker 4>some places that aren't doing all that quite as well

437
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<v Speaker 4>on the whole thing with the patios, the big controversy there. Yeah,

438
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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think overall the North End is doing fine,

439
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<v Speaker 4>maybe not quite as good as before the pandemic. But

440
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<v Speaker 4>I do find that when I go to restaurants there,

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<v Speaker 4>like Cafe Vortoria, which is in a real restaurant's cafe,

442
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<v Speaker 4>But whenever I go a Cafe Victoria on Hanover, it

443
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<v Speaker 4>is packed. So I think they're there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the place that that's the place, that is the

445
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<v Speaker 2>cigar bar downstairs.

446
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<v Speaker 4>Correct, Yeah, yes, And you go there and you get

447
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 4>the viscotti, and you get a cappuccino, and you dip

448
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<v Speaker 4>the this scotti in the cappuccino and there's nothing like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this. I went into the

450
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<v Speaker 2>cigar bar. I don't smoke cigarettes or cigars, but I

451
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<v Speaker 2>went down there and just had a beer or whatever

452
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<v Speaker 2>it was. The next day I literally had to have

453
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<v Speaker 2>the suit directly sent to the drug leaders. It was unbelievable.

454
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<v Speaker 2>It was like forty dollars just to get it fumigated.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, oh, I can imagine.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Something like Yeah, never had before. Let's get some more calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Judy in Medford. Judy, you were

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<v Speaker 2>next on Nightside with my guest, Mark Hurwitz, NBC food writer.

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead, Judy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>One of my favorite restaurants, actually my most of the

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<v Speaker 5>Italian in Arlington, Scuotra.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be surprised if Mark does not know that one.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say, Mark Scutra in Arlington?

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<v Speaker 4>I know of Scootra. I know people have been there.

466
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<v Speaker 4>I have not been there myself. I have heard really

467
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<v Speaker 4>great things though family owned.

468
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<v Speaker 5>The chef is great, the staff is terrific. You go

469
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<v Speaker 5>there to die and you don't push you out in

470
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<v Speaker 5>the bar. And the bartenders are terrific even they have

471
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<v Speaker 5>all different kinds of options for those of you who

472
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<v Speaker 5>don't want to invobe alcohol, but very good on mocktails

473
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<v Speaker 5>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And is that on Summer Street. I'm trying to picture that.

475
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<v Speaker 5>It looks like Summer Street to you, but it's really

476
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<v Speaker 5>Summer Street is right.

477
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<v Speaker 6>Off of it.

478
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<v Speaker 5>It's in back and mass al.

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<v Speaker 4>You're off the lakes, right, Yeah, No, I have not

480
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<v Speaker 4>been there there.

481
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<v Speaker 5>You are want to yourself to take a trip out there, definitely.

482
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<v Speaker 5>And then my favorite world million in town is true?

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<v Speaker 2>That name of the Let me ask both of you

484
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<v Speaker 2>this since your since you know Arlington, what was the

485
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<v Speaker 2>name of the Great Steakhouse which was on mass Avenue

486
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<v Speaker 2>very close to the kidneys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Jimmy's Jimmy Jimmy Steerhouse. Yeah, it's sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not been there. Again. What happens is you

489
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<v Speaker 2>get to the suburbs and you just you go to

490
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<v Speaker 2>the same places and it's you know, you get comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's a mistake that I that I make,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't want to make. Think the future. These

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<v Speaker 2>are great. So it's called scutro, Judy.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, s c U r O s c U t

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<v Speaker 3>r A SCOO truck scootra.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean in Italian?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

498
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<v Speaker 5>You asked the wrong girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's okay. I'm sure it means great food or

500
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<v Speaker 2>something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Especially all the time. It's really great.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't walk out of there, you know, having

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<v Speaker 2>spent five hundred dollars for two people.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, No, you do not no, no, And and it

505
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<v Speaker 5>is really they go a lot with the seasons of

506
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<v Speaker 5>to where they've had with us. But the specials are

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00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 5>there's always a special on and then deserves are terrific

508
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<v Speaker 5>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>They were.

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<v Speaker 5>Really it's a terrific Uh, it's a truic place to Oh,

511
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<v Speaker 5>if you haven't tried it, have you guessed by all news?

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<v Speaker 2>Go and try it sounds great, sounds great.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Judy, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's keep rolling here. Going to go to Karen

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<v Speaker 2>in Wisconsin. Karen, I have no idea if you're going

516
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<v Speaker 2>to give us a restaurant in Wisconsin. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure Mark is going to be able to call me

518
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<v Speaker 2>if go ahead, Karen.

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<v Speaker 8>Now what I'm going to do is now that I

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<v Speaker 8>know it's still there and I love it is. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>going to give a second the Pleasant Cafe in Rosendale.

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<v Speaker 8>He had mentioned it, and I lived right down the

523
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<v Speaker 8>street from there. I love that place, the pizza and

524
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 8>the stakes and everything he said about it. I want

525
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<v Speaker 8>to give us a second notion to that bar. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>glad that it's, you know, like restaurant bar and it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, Karen used to live here in the Boston area,

528
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<v Speaker 2>and that's why that's why she knows your Boston restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>That is for sure, no doubt about that. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good one, Karen, appreciate it. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>all the way for Wisconsin. Hope everything's well.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, there's several good ones also, he mentioned in JP

533
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<v Speaker 8>and Death surrounding area. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thanks, thanks for participating. It is always thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks very much, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing about the Pleasant Cafe. One thing I didn't

537
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:35.519
<v Speaker 4>mention about the Pleasant Cafe. One of the reasons I

538
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 4>go there. Besides the pizza, they have a list of

539
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 4>drinks that basically are from the nineteen thirties and forties.

540
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<v Speaker 4>You know, you can get like a Brandy Alexander, Tom

541
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Collins Slow Jin Fizz. You can get a California root beer.

542
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean they I go there and sometimes I grab

543
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<v Speaker 4>my phone, which they shouldn't do in a restaurant, and

544
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<v Speaker 4>I'll quickly I'll type in, like what's this story? What's

545
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 4>the godfa? You know, and and and all the drinks

546
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 4>are fantastic, But you know, they're not pretentious drinks. They're

547
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<v Speaker 4>not the new fangled stuff. These are drinks that you've

548
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.359
<v Speaker 4>got back well, none of us were back around the thirties,

549
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 4>but these are drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>At least we weren't drinking in the thirties, that's for sure.

551
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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's one that that I love in Malden and went

553
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<v Speaker 2>there a lot. It's run by a friend of mine,

554
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Paul Solano. Pearl Street Station in Malden, mass It's a

555
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>great restaurant. The food is fat. Have you been there?

556
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<v Speaker 2>Pro Street Station?

557
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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I do. I do radio and a lot

559
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.480
<v Speaker 4>of the radio people will go there. We've had big

560
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<v Speaker 4>groups at Pearl Street Station. They used to be at

561
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.519
<v Speaker 4>another location long ago, but now they're in that huge space.

562
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 4>It's multiple rooms and uh oh, they have some of

563
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 4>the one of the best chicken palms I've ever had.

564
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you're talking my language now, that's that's for sure.

565
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Chicken bob the best. I am not the most adventures

566
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<v Speaker 2>in either for me as a as an Irish kid

567
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<v Speaker 2>from Reidville. Uh. I you know the idea of Italian restaurants,

568
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's pretty good for me to get out

569
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<v Speaker 2>there and enjoy it. I love Italian restaurants, I really do. Uh.

570
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 2>And there's so many good ones in our area. We

571
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 2>we ate the other night with some friends out at

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant in Sherborne, Massachusetts. We lived there for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been the Sherborne Inn. I don't know if you

574
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<v Speaker 2>ever been out there. It's now called I think the

575
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<v Speaker 2>Fireside Tavern. And it was really good. It was really good.

576
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<v Speaker 2>The whole atmosphere had changed. A number of the people

577
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 2>who were in there were trying to take it up

578
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 2>high and make it, you know, a big, a big

579
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<v Speaker 2>number restaurant, and they have changed, they've have taken it

580
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<v Speaker 2>down a little bit. We hadn't been there in years.

581
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>We were with some our some of our friends from

582
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.319
<v Speaker 2>hollist and we met there and that was really good.

583
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Now again, maybe we just hit it in a great night.

584
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<v Speaker 2>But I enjoyed it, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a beautiful space. It's just old school New England.

586
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 4>I love that place.

587
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they have a great The bar there is

588
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>wonderful if you just want to sit at the bar

589
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to the restaurant. So yeah, yeah, Hey, I'm

590
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.519
<v Speaker 2>hanging in there. Everything I've mentioned, you're with me on it,

591
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 2>which is great. We're going to take a quick break.

592
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<v Speaker 2>I got three more calls to deal with quickly. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I noticed that you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>followers on your Facebook page. Well, how many people do

595
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<v Speaker 2>you have following your story your report?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, on social media, maybe three hundred thousand. And I

597
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<v Speaker 4>run a group. I run a group, a restaurant group

598
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 4>on Facebook that has about forty five thousand. And that

599
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 4>group's great because there are chefs, restaurant owners, food critics.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of my friends who are food writers are

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<v Speaker 4>on that. So if you ask questions you will get

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<v Speaker 4>some really good am.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow wow, that that is a big number. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you you'll let them know you're going to be on

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<v Speaker 2>Night Side tonight and if if you haven't, they can

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the this hour will be posted at Nightside

607
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<v Speaker 2>on Demand and you can put it up on your

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<v Speaker 2>web page and allow people to listen to you tonight

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<v Speaker 2>here on Nighttide, it will be available.

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely will do that. I already told everybody in

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<v Speaker 4>the group, and I told us others on social media,

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<v Speaker 4>and my mother who's sleeping, h she wants to listen.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I said, I told my mother. I said it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be on a podcast, so she can do

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<v Speaker 4>it over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, we have big numbers of people who listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the podcast, so it's just Rob Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>who post this. It would be probably posted by time

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<v Speaker 2>Rob goes home by three am this morning, so it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be the ten eight hour Nightside on Demand dot com

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easy to find. We'll take a quick break here

622
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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside. I got Linda, Tim and Christine coming right

623
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<v Speaker 2>up with their restaurant selections Weymouth, Wilburn and Denham. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on Nightside after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 2>News Radio, where we were talking, by the way about

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<v Speaker 2>restaurants on the Cape. There's a great restaurant in Chatham

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<v Speaker 2>called Pates. It used to be an old school more

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of like a nineteen fifties sixties restaurant,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have changed it up and it's a really

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<v Speaker 2>great restaurant owned by a friend of mine named Jim Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>And if anybody can get into there in Chatham on

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<v Speaker 2>a on a well, anytime, whether it's March or May,

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<v Speaker 2>June or July, you like that. Have you ever been

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<v Speaker 2>down to Pates and Chatham?

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<v Speaker 4>No? I think the only place I've been to in

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<v Speaker 4>Chatham is that outlet of Max for lobster roles. But no,

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been to that place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, No, that that the outlet I've been to

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<v Speaker 2>that one. Yeah, Max Max, this is a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm familiar with that as well. Let's keep rolling here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to pick up a couple more, at least,

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<v Speaker 2>well three more. Callers. Got to be quick, Linda, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to be quick for me. You got two behind you,

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>I can be real quick. I get a question, somebody

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<v Speaker 7>else can follow up and answer. I've in New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 7>I can recall from younger days ninety nine restaurant I

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<v Speaker 7>think it might have been. The original is still up there.

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<v Speaker 2>What time was it? Ohgi, Okay, well, let's see. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me do this. I'm going to ask I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask Mark if if he knows if the ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>began in New Hampshire. That's a very popular restaurant. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's still doing well at the ninety nine, still

656
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<v Speaker 2>doing Walmart.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I still I go to them. Don't tell

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<v Speaker 4>any when I go to them. Whenever I go there,

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<v Speaker 4>people say, what are you going ninety nine for?

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<v Speaker 3>You're a food writer.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I like one ninety nine. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if that's a good question about Hampshire. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I know there's a lot of them in the Boston area,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Just over the border. Okay. The other question is is

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<v Speaker 7>Dallly's in Braintreet used to be there? It's now with

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<v Speaker 7>the Toyota with the hype flying flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Dall's Steak House.

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<v Speaker 2>Called next Hour on that because those that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those that I missed. I missed that, and I missed

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<v Speaker 2>the uh the steak place on Route one going north

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<v Speaker 2>that had the fake cows out there. Oh well, the

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<v Speaker 2>Hilltop the Hilltop Standouse, absolutely da. I got two more.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta get to thank you so much. Have a

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<v Speaker 2>great weekend. Gotta go, gonna go next to Tim in

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<v Speaker 2>wilbur And Tim, you were next on nights. I go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I heard somebody say Jimmy's and Arlington.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Years ago. I was alignment for the EDS, and we

681
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<v Speaker 3>used to go in there, the whole crew, about five

682
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<v Speaker 3>of the line trucks. They wouldn't chat yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's that's my sort of restaurant right there. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't alive with the electric we were you with me?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd live the waitress a twenty dollars tip.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, at least Tim, Were you with Boston Edison and

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<v Speaker 2>then the back in.

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<v Speaker 3>The day, Yeah, there was nineteen seventy eight. I was

689
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<v Speaker 3>here for three years and I didn't like the job

690
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<v Speaker 3>that much, so I left. It was a big mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, there's no doubt about that. All right, Thanks Tim.

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<v Speaker 3>Great. By the way, I got my night side T shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'd proudly weird, proudly I were good. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Jim, thanks for it. Have a great night. Good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Christine in Denham. Christine, I'll bet you've been to the

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<v Speaker 2>Midway Cafe in Denham, Right, I have, I have, so

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<v Speaker 2>give us another restaurant in debt him or what anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>you want? Get what? What? What would you want? Which

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant would you like to talk about? To ask a

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<v Speaker 2>question about?

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<v Speaker 5>I love the Bay Point in Quincy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the I love that place Bay Pointed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, it's really nice. It's beautiful. The location. You

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<v Speaker 4>gotta there's a patio that overlooks the ocean. It's so

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<v Speaker 4>nice there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, how often? How often do you get there? Christine?

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<v Speaker 5>Almost every summer?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's beautiful, it's always. It's a great tradition.

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<v Speaker 5>The mill Walk in Situate, that's another good one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I was just there.

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<v Speaker 2>You are?

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's terrific, great great seafood there.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Christine, talk to you hater good night. Uh what

716
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<v Speaker 2>happened in the Marley Ive in downtown? Is that still

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<v Speaker 2>around to now? No?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm really depressed about that. That was one of

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<v Speaker 4>my go to places back way back when. Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was the oldest Italian restaurant in I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't truly Italian. I think it was Italian and French.

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<v Speaker 4>But one of the maybe the oldest Italian restaurant in Boston,

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<v Speaker 4>along with what was it in Javelli's and East Boston.

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<v Speaker 4>Those two places were just legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, another good one, which again when we were at

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<v Speaker 2>this when I'd be working at the State House, was Denis.

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<v Speaker 2>We were around when Deani's right on on on Tremont Street.

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<v Speaker 4>I might have been. Was that around in the eighties?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it was there for many many years,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was just it was a great

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<v Speaker 2>political restaurant. I mean, you know, you got you at

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<v Speaker 2>the Parker House and then Deni's and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>now there's a whole different group of restaurants that have

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<v Speaker 2>come in. But what would you give as an overall rating, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've traveled to Boston as a restaurant town,

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<v Speaker 2>Greater Boston as a restaurant town. What sort of grades

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<v Speaker 2>would you give it. I'm sure New York is an

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<v Speaker 2>a because you can get anything you want in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>and Chicago probably has some great steak places. Wait is

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<v Speaker 2>Boston rank? And and you know, look, Washington has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of great restaurants as well, but Boston rank do

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<v Speaker 2>you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've been in Chicago Philly, Washington, Boston, San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 4>New York, Churs, Boston, and I give it. I'd say

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<v Speaker 4>a minus B plus. I mean, it's a really great

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<v Speaker 4>city for food, and it's it's gotten better in many ways.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also lost a little bits charmed with the Old

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<v Speaker 4>School restaurant's closing. So i'd say minus B plus is

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<v Speaker 4>a great city for food. I'll tell you though, Providence,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just wrote about a place for Providence. It

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<v Speaker 4>just went up tonight on NBC L Providence has an

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<v Speaker 4>incredible food town.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hill's tough to be tough to beat. Federal Hill. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I got one more here, let's get one more under

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<v Speaker 2>the wire. Different community. Melvin in Roxbury, Melvin, we get

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<v Speaker 2>less than a minute. What can you do with it?

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<v Speaker 6>Buddy Roll, Paul mod Dixon's Dona, the best fried Chicken,

758
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<v Speaker 6>the best Chittling's, the best hog Marks was the best

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<v Speaker 6>of all. Dad and Bob the chef.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember Bob the chef. Absolutely. Hey, Melvin, you've

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<v Speaker 2>never called me? Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna here. Bob the Chef used to work for

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<v Speaker 6>Mob Dixon's at Shamattabb which he owned the place down

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<v Speaker 6>there and he stole all her recipes and he opened

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<v Speaker 6>up Bob the Chef at six oh four Columbus alf

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<v Speaker 6>At the True Story.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Melvin, is this your first call the night side. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to give you a quick round of applause

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<v Speaker 2>our digital studio audience. Melvin, thank you so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for calling. Talk again. Okay, thank you, right

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<v Speaker 2>back at you Melvin's thanks and Mark, this was a

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<v Speaker 2>fun hour. I really we we got to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different locations. I really enjoyed the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did

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<v Speaker 2>and love to have you back at some point, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe as we talk about summer dining.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that was great. Yeah, definitely, summer dining would be

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<v Speaker 4>te rific with doutor patios. I would love to come

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<v Speaker 4>back and talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark, I appreciate very much Friday Night. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>great guest. We had some great calls. This hour far

782
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<v Speaker 2>exceeded my expectations. Thank you, my friend. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>grab mine. Okay, thanks Mar and it's on me. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you later. Okay, here comes the eleven o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the twentieth hour and We're going to change

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<v Speaker 2>the focus just a little bit. Okay, gonna give you

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to tell me what retail chain store do

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<v Speaker 2>you miss. I don't miss many, but there's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of them that have gone the way of all

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<v Speaker 2>good things. And let's talk about that in the next hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be back on Night's side right after this