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Speaker 1: with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got the
Speaker 1: privilege of talking to Claude today. Claude's an individual where
Speaker 1: a friend, Lauren Smith, who you might know from Night
Speaker 1: Callers Bigfoot Radio, recommended that I reach out to Claude
Speaker 1: as he has some very interesting stories to share. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad we were able to be connected that way.
Speaker 1: But welcome Claude to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you glad to be here.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you've had a lot of things happen
Speaker 1: in just the last few years, and I'm really interested
Speaker 1: to hear what you've experienced over those years.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like a lot of people, Mattison Gammin was my
Speaker 2: exposure to Bigfoot when that film came out, When the
Speaker 2: Argason magazine article came out, I was all wrapped up
Speaker 2: in that. Of course, I was sixteen years old, still
Speaker 2: in high school, couldn't do much to go investigate on
Speaker 2: my own, and thought, like everybody else did there in
Speaker 2: Washington State, I can't make it up there. Well, we
Speaker 2: hunted on a twenty three thousand acre lease deer, hundred, rabbit, squirrels, whatever.
Speaker 2: And this is right on the banks of the Mississippi
Speaker 2: River north of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, And as far as
Speaker 2: I was concerned, the only thing in those woods was deer, rabbit, squirrels,
Speaker 2: occasional skunk, maybe a bobcat, but nothing any more ominous
Speaker 2: than that, you know, big cats, no bayers that I
Speaker 2: knew of. Maybe an occasional wild hall, but that was
Speaker 2: about it. We were up there honting one weekend and
Speaker 2: the older guys were playing cards and drinking beer at
Speaker 2: night in the camp. We had five different camps on
Speaker 2: that twenty three thousand acres, and one of them was
Speaker 2: actually five miles away down the gravel road. And one
Speaker 2: of the other younger guys that in the camp didn't
Speaker 2: want to sit around watch and play cards either, so
Speaker 2: we struck out walking and we didn't take a flashlight
Speaker 2: or gun. I had a Honting a six inch played
Speaker 2: Honting Life on me. That was it. It was a
Speaker 2: moonlit night. We had to see where we were walking,
Speaker 2: and we're walking down the gravel roads. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like to get lost doing that. So as we're walking,
Speaker 2: probably after about a quarter of a mile, maybe a
Speaker 2: half a mile, we could hear something walking off in
Speaker 2: the woods beside us, and we'd stop and it would stop, wait,
Speaker 2: walk and it would walk. And we started discussing this
Speaker 2: other what is that. It can't be a cow because
Speaker 2: there was new wild cows out there. Can't be a cow.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna sallow. You might be a dog, but
Speaker 2: if it was one of the hunting dogs, he's gonna
Speaker 2: come out and looking for something to eat if he's
Speaker 2: been stuck in the woods all day. And we just
Speaker 2: kind of played it down like that. Started walking. Whatever
Speaker 2: this was was walking with us again, but it didn't
Speaker 2: have a four footed walking, any two footed bipedal walk.
Speaker 2: You could hear this distinct trading of these, you know,
Speaker 2: And a couple of times we'd stop and it would
Speaker 2: take one extra step, and then it would stop. We'd
Speaker 2: start walking and it would start walking. So I'll stop
Speaker 2: and my honting knife and I cut off about a
Speaker 2: six foot long sapling and put a remy sharp point
Speaker 2: on it. Francis what you could do with that? I said,
Speaker 2: if something runs out of the woods at us, I'm
Speaker 2: going to stab it and run try to keep up. Well,
Speaker 2: at that point it stopped following us, which I thought
Speaker 2: was kind of odd. You know, did whatever this was?
Speaker 2: He know what expurus? You know it wasn't one of
Speaker 2: the guys from the honey camp, because they'd have jumped
Speaker 2: out long before that and made us wood our pants. Okay,
Speaker 2: So we walked all the way back to the five
Speaker 2: miles to the back camp, walked all the way back
Speaker 2: up and never saw anything else. About a month later,
Speaker 2: on a local radio station, I hear a DJ talking
Speaker 2: about a tugboat captain on the Mississippi River dining the
Speaker 2: banks with his highbee, you know, high intensity of lake
Speaker 2: just to make sure he was where weren't to be
Speaker 2: on the river, and he reported seeing this extremely tall
Speaker 2: black creature walking on two legs, leaving the river bank
Speaker 2: and going off in the woods in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night. This was right about the area where we
Speaker 2: were walking that night. So then there I figured out, yes,
Speaker 2: we do have sasquatch down here. Now did I go
Speaker 2: back and look for him again? I was busy thinking
Speaker 2: about school, thinking about girls, thinking about cars and everything,
Speaker 2: but sausquatch. He didn't have enough money to go roaming
Speaker 2: the comforty side looking for him. Once I got out
Speaker 2: of high school, like everybody else, I went to work,
Speaker 2: I got married, started laising kids, and that pretty much
Speaker 2: consumed the next while, having three children ten years apart,
Speaker 2: it took up a lot of time, and in twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen I was retired and looking for something to do,
Speaker 2: and I went online and started looking for the Biff
Speaker 2: Thefro website for subsequet sightings, and I found a number
Speaker 2: of them in the central Louisiana. So that's where I
Speaker 2: hit it up. And found a campsite up here near
Speaker 2: a couple of dead end roads, which is what I
Speaker 2: was looking for. Something not very well traveled and I
Speaker 2: started walking in the woods and looking for tribes, looking
Speaker 2: for signs. And I did this similar to a way
Speaker 2: I trained a wild squirrel to eat out of my hand.
Speaker 2: Over a couple of weeks. I always wore the sanin clothes,
Speaker 2: dark pants, white coat, white hat, gray back, black to
Speaker 2: where I looked exactly the same in it. I don't
Speaker 2: want walking looking for sasquatch, so they wouldn't know it
Speaker 2: was me on site. They didn't have to worry about,
Speaker 2: you know, it being somebody that didn't know or whatever.
Speaker 2: And as I walked, I would talk out loud. I
Speaker 2: tell Ny, I'm out here to see you. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to hurt you. I mean, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want you to harm me, but I would like to
Speaker 2: see you. If you were like to come out, you know,
Speaker 2: let me see you. And I did this both verbally
Speaker 2: and mentally, just just in case they could read thoughts
Speaker 2: I had heard that okay, let's try it. And I
Speaker 2: would walk sometimes five miles in. One of the roads
Speaker 2: that I walked was two and a half miles long,
Speaker 2: and I would walk all the way to the end, though,
Speaker 2: starting at about seven o'clock in the morning, at about
Speaker 2: nine thirty. I was at the end of the road.
Speaker 2: I needed a snake, trying to walk back back to
Speaker 2: my vehicle. But but no, you know, by a good
Speaker 2: five hour walk. And on one of these walks there
Speaker 2: was a bush most of us right away next to
Speaker 2: these walking boats. It is what they were. The tree
Speaker 2: line was a good thirty or forty feet away from
Speaker 2: the road. On either side. There was a ditch in
Speaker 2: between the drainage and all this. And at one point
Speaker 2: on one of these roads it was a busher but
Speaker 2: twenty feet magee rose it was. It was drawn over
Speaker 2: the ditch and getting close to the room. And as
Speaker 2: I walked by it, I heard this mumbling sound behind
Speaker 2: the bush or behind me. There's I was like, well,
Speaker 2: batman's turned around to look back, and thinking it might
Speaker 2: have been sidsquatch, I said, okay, I heard that say
Speaker 2: it again. And I waited and I at this something sound.
Speaker 2: I said, well to you too, and I turned around
Speaker 2: and kept walking. I didn't know if I wanted to
Speaker 2: know what was behind that bush, because I had heard
Speaker 2: there was a young black bear in that area. Didn't
Speaker 2: want to come face to face the black bear. Didn't
Speaker 2: know if it was subsquatch doing this, but I figured
Speaker 2: if it was sudsquatch, it was going to follow me. Well,
Speaker 2: sometime later, as I walked out, if something caught my attention,
Speaker 2: I'd do a short video with my camera. It had
Speaker 2: a it was a standard camera with a video mode,
Speaker 2: you know, So I would do a video and go
Speaker 2: back and look and see if I could see anything
Speaker 2: in the area that caught my attention. And indeed I
Speaker 2: did find a young black bear that was travely sitting
Speaker 2: one hundred yards back in the woods one day stay,
Speaker 2: not that same day, but at a later date, staring
Speaker 2: at me walking down the road. So thinking back, that
Speaker 2: may have been a bear. Well, I started finding footprints
Speaker 2: and different odd things. Oh found one very large, wide
Speaker 2: footprint long away, and I was told by a tracker
Speaker 2: that that was a double bear track. They'll put their
Speaker 2: front foot down and then the saint and the back
Speaker 2: foot on the same side will step at the end
Speaker 2: of that front foot track and make a very wide
Speaker 2: toad track that is exceptionally long. But I don't have
Speaker 2: a pointed heel unlike a sasquatch, and has a rounded
Speaker 2: heel like we do. And my investigations continues from Now
Speaker 2: I don't call myself a researcher because I don't take notes.
Speaker 2: I don't write anything down. Everything is in memory of photographs.
Speaker 2: If I find a track, I'll put some way of
Speaker 2: measuring it down, a dollar bill or whatever, put my
Speaker 2: foot next to take a picture of it. I went
Speaker 2: down one road that I hadn't been all the way down,
Speaker 2: maybe about three quarters the way down one day. This
Speaker 2: was early and probably in June of twenty nineteen, and
Speaker 2: I found this area about a macer square with saplings
Speaker 2: sweet gum saplines that were bent over, touching the ground
Speaker 2: all over this area. There must have been thirty of
Speaker 2: them in this sacre of ground, as well as larger
Speaker 2: sweet gums that were showed off on one side, almost
Speaker 2: like a beaver had done it, but there was no
Speaker 2: beaver around that area. You got kind of curious about that. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm going into this area and looking around. I found
Speaker 2: stick what I called stick glives to be a long
Speaker 2: stick lying there with three should sticks touching it, even
Speaker 2: loose spaced about a food a park, not something that
Speaker 2: typically happens in nature. I found a perfect x about
Speaker 2: the same side one foot long pieces of wood perfectly
Speaker 2: crossed internecks laying not too far from that first lift,
Speaker 2: And in this area it was covered in pine's drawl
Speaker 2: and sweet gum leaves. And if he's ever walked in
Speaker 2: the woods and hunted in the fall of the year,
Speaker 2: you know how noisy that could be. Well, there were
Speaker 2: pathways criss crossing the sacred ground back and forth that
Speaker 2: were probably about a foot wide, wider than a typical
Speaker 2: Dame trail. Dere don't make wide tracks like that. And
Speaker 2: if you walked on those tracks it was completely silent.
Speaker 2: If you got off into the uncompressed leaves, it was
Speaker 2: extremely crunching. Woulds get another line of thinking that these
Speaker 2: so squats been in here that much playing? This looked
Speaker 2: at a place that a child would play in bend
Speaker 2: trees and things like that. And out of curiosity, I
Speaker 2: grabbed this sweet gum sapling that was probably about an
Speaker 2: inch and a half at the bottom and decided I
Speaker 2: was going to pull it down and see if it
Speaker 2: would stay down. Now, that's not easy, that little sapling
Speaker 2: can't want to give up. But I finally managed to
Speaker 2: get enough of a grip on it and put my
Speaker 2: weight on it and get it to bend down. And
Speaker 2: touch the ground. And I held it there for two
Speaker 2: or three minutes, and where I let go, it stood
Speaker 2: straight back up again. So it makes me wonder how
Speaker 2: they were bending these trees where they're slightly breaking them
Speaker 2: and their grip to make them stay bet over. These
Speaker 2: are a lowerd tree. Some of these things are full
Speaker 2: five inches in diameter, so the bottom breaking something like
Speaker 2: that to make it stay bent over. It's a difficult fault.
Speaker 2: And I had gone in and out of this place
Speaker 2: a couple of times, and I had my own little
Speaker 2: secret spot where I would sneak in there that was
Speaker 2: marked by a broken branch on a twig on the
Speaker 2: world bus right on the edge of the road. I
Speaker 2: broke off a twig off and leaning sideways pointing back
Speaker 2: in there so I would know where to go in.
Speaker 2: And right after I did that, as I was walking in,
Speaker 2: there was a probably a five or six that sapling
Speaker 2: laid directly across that trail, parallel to the road, almost
Speaker 2: as if it was saying, don't come in here. So
Speaker 2: I looked at her and said, okay, I think you
Speaker 2: did that. I don't know that you did that. I
Speaker 2: don't even know if you're paying attention to me, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ignore this. I'm going to come in and
Speaker 2: walk and look and investigate like a whole words do,
Speaker 2: and if you don't like it, you can come on
Speaker 2: me out. Well, I think ever happened. A few days later,
Speaker 2: I'd go back in there, and there was a second one,
Speaker 2: broken over.
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Speaker 2: At the end of this first one, in a straight
Speaker 2: line parallel to the road, And I said, okay, maybe
Speaker 2: this is another accident. I found out later the bottom
Speaker 2: of the days had been showed off on one side,
Speaker 2: what should make them weak and easy to break, But
Speaker 2: the fact that they were broken off in the line
Speaker 2: was rather curious. Next time I'm gonna go back, it
Speaker 2: was the third one. At the end of the second one,
Speaker 2: I said, okay, you've made your point. I won't come back.
Speaker 2: And when I went to find my little twig pointing
Speaker 2: back to where I wanted to go, it was broken
Speaker 2: below that in the opposite direction, about two inches down,
Speaker 2: as if to say, your marker is no good, stay out.
Speaker 2: I took that as gospel. I didn't go back in there.
Speaker 2: I left the place a little. It had been disturbed
Speaker 2: by the road being cleared by a bordoze of which
Speaker 2: hadn't been done for probably about five or six years.
Speaker 2: It was well grown up before when and as they
Speaker 2: cleared it two days before, I started walking in well later,
Speaker 2: I decided I had never seen the end of this road,
Speaker 2: so let's go walk to the end wherever it is.
Speaker 2: About a mile and a half down. There was a
Speaker 2: pond on my left. The road came to the hall
Speaker 2: be saying you need to see where the bulldozer had
Speaker 2: stopped clearing, and I got my camera out and zoomed
Speaker 2: it out as much as it would go, which is
Speaker 2: like fifty power twelve hundred millimeters in photography, and I
Speaker 2: scanned around the edge of this pooling looking for their tracks,
Speaker 2: turkey tracks, whatever. Didn't say anything that caught my eye,
Speaker 2: and still facing sideways to the road, I turned the
Speaker 2: camera as and I let him hang on my back back.
Speaker 2: When I did this, I saw something move out of
Speaker 2: the corner of my right eye, and I looked around.
Speaker 2: There was this seven foot tall I'm guessing at this
Speaker 2: just by knowing what it looks like when a six
Speaker 2: foot tall person touch a stride. It was over six feet,
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to say eight, we'll leave it
Speaker 2: at seven. It's cold black. The it was looking at
Speaker 2: the ground as it walked, and the back of his
Speaker 2: head or the people would end up being the top
Speaker 2: of his there when he's looking down. Came to a
Speaker 2: perfect point, just like a football. That quote typical pointed
Speaker 2: head and everybody refers to. And as it walked, like
Speaker 2: I said, was looking at the ground, it was leaning
Speaker 2: forward slightly and its back was as straight as an
Speaker 2: hour ago. It was no curve right above the butts
Speaker 2: it had. It stood up straight. That may have been,
Speaker 2: but it leaned over like it was there wasn't. It
Speaker 2: was most notable about the whole thing was the way
Speaker 2: it walked. It picked its feet up heel first, like
Speaker 2: we do, but when they want to put them down,
Speaker 2: it put them down flat, not heel first. Anybody that
Speaker 2: wants to know, if you step heel first and anything breakable,
Speaker 2: it's going to break. It's gonna make noise. If you
Speaker 2: want a sneak, you put your foot down flat and
Speaker 2: anything that breaks us under your foot and it's muffled.
Speaker 2: So this creature looked like a four year old child
Speaker 2: trying to sneak around and get right get away with something.
Speaker 2: But I happened to turn back mount where I was
Speaker 2: going and ended up watching it make four steps off
Speaker 2: into the woods. Well. I quickly walked that way to
Speaker 2: see where it went. I couldn't find any trice. Suppose
Speaker 2: the ground was hardest concrete in September. It was dry
Speaker 2: head and rained in a monk, and I never could
Speaker 2: find out where it went. I just gave up hit
Speaker 2: it back to my van. I would go down there
Speaker 2: again later, and I talked to a man down the
Speaker 2: bulldozer one day they were clearing whether could start a
Speaker 2: logging in that area, and I asked him if they
Speaker 2: had ever seen anything to carry your down here. He said,
Speaker 2: you mean the big guy. I said, dum, the big guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. He had, baked foot, subsquatch. He said,
Speaker 2: my crew is saying three times down here at this
Speaker 2: end of the road. So I made it a point
Speaker 2: of exploring that area, but I never could find anything significant.
Speaker 2: I think it may have just been passing through, or
Speaker 2: it may have been watching them because they were down
Speaker 2: there logging made from what I've heard, tend to do that. Well.
Speaker 2: My explorations continued and I had three different campgrounds that
Speaker 2: I could stay in, and one of them was frequented
Speaker 2: on rainy nights by something. And these are owners camps
Speaker 2: in the summertime, they don't have anybody in them. What's
Speaker 2: unting seasons over with their vacant And it happened to
Speaker 2: be April Fool's night. It's poured down rain one that night,
Speaker 2: and two days later I want to get gas in
Speaker 2: my van and there's this handprint just around the driver's window,
Speaker 2: out five feet off the ground. And the only way
Speaker 2: that handprint was put there was in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night in that rain, because if you tried to
Speaker 2: rub off the collected dirt and whatever on the side
Speaker 2: of the van with the dry finger, you couldn't, but
Speaker 2: if you wet your finger rubb it, it would come
Speaker 2: right off. So this handprint was left in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night by something trying to look in the
Speaker 2: windows soon to see what I was doing, because they
Speaker 2: had become very familiar with my band by then. And
Speaker 2: when it took its hand off the vand it kind
Speaker 2: of slid down the side of the land, but the
Speaker 2: middle and ring finger fingernails caught the paint on the
Speaker 2: van and literally scratched the paint, which no, no, it's
Speaker 2: just something a human can't do. It didn't dig into
Speaker 2: the paint, didn't peel the paint back, but she could
Speaker 2: see scratches in the pink where his fingernails had got
Speaker 2: no way down. And that happened again, probably almost a
Speaker 2: year later, in that same camp round, same camp spot,
Speaker 2: because they they d I used that spot. I just
Speaker 2: said they were familiar with the land. And I got
Speaker 2: up one morning to look around the van, and there's
Speaker 2: what looked like four finger fourth finger prints there on
Speaker 2: finger marks on the side of the van, but this
Speaker 2: time the one to the left went straight down, the
Speaker 2: second one went straight down, the third one went straight down,
Speaker 2: but the fourth one came down about two inches and
Speaker 2: then went on across the first three and then down.
Speaker 2: So that wasn't just a drag print that one was
Speaker 2: drawn on there. Now what that signati is, what it
Speaker 2: means I never had figured out. But I kept my
Speaker 2: investigations up in that same spot, and twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: of the later, I was sleeping on the back of
Speaker 2: the van and I heard just to think, you know
Speaker 2: when your bendo soda can and like that clinking noise,
Speaker 2: Well I heard this at the back door of my
Speaker 2: lantbot midnight and I'm like, who was out here playing
Speaker 2: with deer can? Didn't I? I figured, you know, coke
Speaker 2: can with the dog and you know, trying to get
Speaker 2: that coke syrup right, shoeing on the can and whatever.
Speaker 2: I went back to sleep. Next morning, I wake up
Speaker 2: that can is laying about thirty saves from the van.
Speaker 2: So I got out, walked over there to it, picked
Speaker 2: it up, and when I turned it upside down, clear
Speaker 2: water came out of it. This was an old can.
Speaker 2: It had been rained in for a long time, and
Speaker 2: whatever brought it over there wasn't trying to drink out
Speaker 2: of it. It was playing with it ben and making
Speaker 2: that little clinking noise and left it where I could
Speaker 2: find it. In other words, we came by to visit
Speaker 2: and we left you a president, which happens white often.
Speaker 2: This when when I first got up here, we backtracking
Speaker 2: a little bit. When I first got up here, I
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with where to go. When
Speaker 2: I found the campground that originally stayed in and sat
Speaker 2: there in that one spot in the land in April
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen and watched the woods day in and
Speaker 2: they looking for any wildlife. Once you parked, a vehicle
Speaker 2: becomes part of the scenery and animals ignored. After a
Speaker 2: couple of days and I was working off of back,
Speaker 2: but I never saw anything any deer in Cayot and
Speaker 2: he never saw so many birds. I tried to call
Speaker 2: barn owls because I'm good at it. Never got an answer.
Speaker 2: But a friend of mine came up and he is
Speaker 2: the bigfoot researcher, and he wanted to go hang a
Speaker 2: recorder out not to farm where I was parked. So
Speaker 2: he walks over there and hangs his recorder and he
Speaker 2: comes back. He shows me a picture on his paone
Speaker 2: of this tiny footprint, barefoot footprint about old friend I
Speaker 2: had made if one inches long and about an inch
Speaker 2: inch and a half wide. This is a baby foot. Kay,
Speaker 2: Now what human baby wouldn't be out in those woods
Speaker 2: in early April? Want to step put the chili running
Speaker 2: around barefoot? I don't think so, but I kind of
Speaker 2: touch it in the back of my mind. Okay, well
Speaker 2: maybe there was a female bigfoot out here with the
Speaker 2: mod wonder and hanging on to it, you know whatever. Well,
Speaker 2: kind of lets that go, and I started doing the
Speaker 2: owl caols. Never got an alcohol except just before I
Speaker 2: left that campground. I could always stay for two weeks,
Speaker 2: I had to boast. But just before I left the campground,
Speaker 2: off in the woods, I heard you. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know an owl that makes the call like that
Speaker 2: bar hours. Okay, that's typical for borrow great horned owls,
Speaker 2: none of which match what I heard. But I thought
Speaker 2: there's a drunk out here trying to mess with me.
Speaker 2: Of them, you know, I just kind of left it alone.
Speaker 2: A couple of years later, I'm in another campground and
Speaker 2: I hear that same call. I'm out. Instead of walking
Speaker 2: like you did, I just went out in the wood
Speaker 2: the sadness. I'm gonna try the hunting technique. I'm just
Speaker 2: quiet and sit and watch. And I got out there
Speaker 2: about seven in the morning, which is typical, and probably
Speaker 2: forty five nights. After I got settled in and quiet
Speaker 2: and not moving, I hear that same color, like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is weird. I called a buddy of mine who's
Speaker 2: a turkey owner, and I said, if you do an
Speaker 2: alcohol or a turkey, answer you? He said, jail right
Speaker 2: after daylight. After that, you got to use a crowcol
Speaker 2: I said, okay, kind of eliminated the fact that it
Speaker 2: was a warner scouting for turkeys. It may have been,
Speaker 2: but no turkey's answered. And this was down on a
Speaker 2: bottom below me, out of sight where I couldn't see
Speaker 2: where it was coming from. This is in the same
Speaker 2: area where I kept getting my presence. Well, this goes.
Speaker 2: I went walking one day creek bank, knowing that wildlife
Speaker 2: frequents creek banks, deer, squirrels, that I have to go
Speaker 2: for water sooner or later. So I started walking creek
Speaker 2: banks and I found a sixteen inch long, eight inch
Speaker 2: wide footprint on the edge of this creek, got a
Speaker 2: good picture of it, did a video with it. That
Speaker 2: right there, pretty good size pitcher. And this track was
Speaker 2: probably three quarters of a ledge down in this clay bank,
Speaker 2: solid clay bank. It was covered their leaves and the
Speaker 2: leaves had been mashed down in it. So this was
Speaker 2: the recent this had been done. Was a week of
Speaker 2: me finding it. And unfortunately, in twenty twenty three, I
Speaker 2: have COPD chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, which means I can't
Speaker 2: breathe well. In twenty twenty three, you got serious enough.
Speaker 2: It put me in the hospital for fourteen days. When
Speaker 2: I came back out, my walking in the woods was
Speaker 2: over with don't have enough breath to do that anymore.
Speaker 2: But at one time in that area where I found
Speaker 2: the bear can and the hand prints on the van
Speaker 2: in the office, I was about to walk across there's
Speaker 2: a creek that surrounds that area. I was about to
Speaker 2: cross that creek and walk up hill into a thicket.
Speaker 2: That really got my attention. So I don't know, little
Speaker 2: board with thicket. And when I say thicket, and you
Speaker 2: couldn't see through these if you got down on the ground,
Speaker 2: you couldn't see more than five feet into it. Well,
Speaker 2: I started to walk up to it, and in my mind,
Speaker 2: in my head, I heard this mature female voice say,
Speaker 2: don't come in here. And I said what she said,
Speaker 2: don't come in here? Well, I had a feeling right then.
Speaker 2: I didn't need to ask why I didn't need to
Speaker 2: go in that figure. Somebody left her and kept going.
Speaker 2: This is in twenty twenty two. Why I could still
Speaker 2: walk and do things. And I didn't think about it
Speaker 2: after that, just kind of let it go. When I
Speaker 2: got to where I couldn't walk anymore, I called out
Speaker 2: one day, you know mentally verbally, sitting in my land.
Speaker 1: Big for society, who will be right back after these messages?
Speaker 2: I want to talk to whoever there was it told
Speaker 2: me not to come in. I think it that day
Speaker 2: and the same voice said, yes, what do you want?
Speaker 2: I was in shock. Now, I've known all my life
Speaker 2: that thoughts travel. I've read this in the back of
Speaker 2: a book when my thoughts have ways. If you look
Speaker 2: at the back somebody's head and concentrate, they're trying to
Speaker 2: look at you, especially if you know their names and
Speaker 2: you metually call their name. So I knew back now,
Speaker 2: even in high school, that this worked, but getting words
Speaker 2: was a little something different. So I asked her, I said,
Speaker 2: who are you? What are you? And she said, we
Speaker 2: are the people. The people. I've heard that term used
Speaker 2: and Native American cultures trials will call themselves the people
Speaker 2: no matter what they're lying which, and I thought that
Speaker 2: was one of the curious And I said, okay, well
Speaker 2: where do you come from? And she says, we're not
Speaker 2: the Nephlem, but we're descended from the nephilm Well, I
Speaker 2: had a vague notion of what the Nephil was from
Speaker 2: reading the Bible and watching certain YouTube videos and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, do you believe in God? She
Speaker 2: said yes. I said, do you worship God? She said,
Speaker 2: we write worship Yeshua the Creator. I had no idea
Speaker 2: what she had just said. I never heard that term.
Speaker 2: I grew up in a Christian church, but the term
Speaker 2: yeshibah was never used. When I looked it up online.
Speaker 2: It is ancient Hebrews for Jesus. Okay, so they believe
Speaker 2: in Jid. They worshiped Jesus the Creator. And I said,
Speaker 2: just didn't create this world. But then if you go
Speaker 2: back in Genesis, it says let's us create man and
Speaker 2: our image. So there wasn't one single God person in
Speaker 2: doing this, so Jesus possibly was a big creator. This
Speaker 2: story goes on and I asked her how do you survive?
Speaker 2: She said, like every other creature out here, we catch
Speaker 2: or pick what we eat. We have lots of plants
Speaker 2: that we eat. We can fill a small game. We
Speaker 2: can even kill deer, which we do when we need to.
Speaker 2: And this conversation glew. This went on for days on end.
Speaker 2: Every time I had a question, only go to her
Speaker 2: and say what is this or what is this or
Speaker 2: how did this work. She gave me mental images of
Speaker 2: how they live day today and family groups. She told
Speaker 2: me her husband's name, and I say husband because that's
Speaker 2: what she said. She didn't say my mate. She said
Speaker 2: my husband. This is a very high level culture. Now
Speaker 2: they helpen to live in the woods, but that's my choice.
Speaker 2: They want no contact with us, none because they know
Speaker 2: what our contact means, so they are ord us. They
Speaker 2: hide out. And I asked her, I said, what do
Speaker 2: you need from me? She said, all we need from
Speaker 2: your you and your people is peace. That's it, just peace.
Speaker 2: It was long. I said, you don't need clothes when
Speaker 2: it's cold, or it's somewhere to build fire when it's cold,
Speaker 2: or like that. She said, no, we don't want the
Speaker 2: things you have because we know what it cost you
Speaker 2: to get those things. You gave up your freedom and
Speaker 2: many cash as you go. You gave up your soul
Speaker 2: to get the things you have. Said, we don't want
Speaker 2: those things, we don't need them, We said, I without them.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, there are places on your body
Speaker 2: you can't see. Wouldn't you like to have a mirror.
Speaker 2: She said, nope, that's why I have a mate. No,
Speaker 2: she's got such a rice sense of humor not even funny? Oh?
Speaker 2: And I asked her before she told them, you know
Speaker 2: what then being called people? I said, what do you
Speaker 2: want to be called? And she said to people? She said,
Speaker 2: we don't mind times like sasquatch, sabbeh, the kind of
Speaker 2: ones that mean forest people, or even the hairy people,
Speaker 2: the hairy man. We don't like bigfoot because that's derogatory.
Speaker 2: It's pointing out something obvious about our anatomy. She said,
Speaker 2: what if I called you ten weeny? And I knew
Speaker 2: exactly what she got. I said, okay, you got me there,
Speaker 2: like I say, Jerry Ryson's of humor. Oh. I asked
Speaker 2: her if yeah, I'm watching YouTube videos people talk about
Speaker 2: they do this, they do that, do the other? I said,
Speaker 2: can you quote? Can you disappear? She said no, we
Speaker 2: don't have to. What we do is affect your mind
Speaker 2: to where it doesn't register what you see. If you
Speaker 2: live directly at us, we'll walk you seeing your visioncy
Speaker 2: you don't see it. You see everything else around us,
Speaker 2: but you don't see us. And that says they do camouflage.
Speaker 2: I'm we had phone going conversations kind of hard to
Speaker 2: remember some of them because this has been a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago. I asked her if they I said,
Speaker 2: what do you do if you're dead? She said, we
Speaker 2: buried it. I said, well, I've heard that y'all caountibalize
Speaker 2: your dad. She says, no, we don't. Some do, but
Speaker 2: we don't. And she answered a lot of my questions
Speaker 2: that way. You know, are you aggressive? She said, no,
Speaker 2: somewhe we're not. She said, when we bury our dead,
Speaker 2: we'll put them in a place you can't find them.
Speaker 2: If there are large rocks, we'll fold the rock, dig
Speaker 2: the grain, put our deceased in there, put the dirt
Speaker 2: back open, put the rock back in place. And it's
Speaker 2: a big enough rock to you worry. You would have
Speaker 2: to have heavy machinery to move it. And we do
Speaker 2: it in a place where you can't take heavy machinery.
Speaker 2: Or we'll put them under a tree. We'll pull up
Speaker 2: a tree, do the hole, put them in, put the
Speaker 2: tree back on top of them, and cover it to
Speaker 2: where you wouldn't suspected there was ever anything there but
Speaker 2: the tree. So they can build fires, but they don't.
Speaker 2: She said, if we build a fire that much smoke,
Speaker 2: you can find us. That way, we don't want to
Speaker 2: give ourselves away. They do have a written language that
Speaker 2: they use at times, and they don't write on anything counent.
Speaker 2: They'll write in the jerk and then rush it away,
Speaker 2: so it never existed. And I asked her about the
Speaker 2: wooden knocks that she kin't did well. She said, we
Speaker 2: do that for fun. Sometimes we do communicate with it,
Speaker 2: you know, if we need a first thing in the morning,
Speaker 2: if we want to write, the clowns around us know
Speaker 2: we're okay. We'll wrap a tree just to make a
Speaker 2: noise and they don't know we're there. They'll do the
Speaker 2: same thing by yourselves. Know that they're there and they're
Speaker 2: all right. But she said the typical wood knocks that
Speaker 2: in you here when you're camping before our entertainment. When
Speaker 2: we hit a tree, if you're out there looking for us,
Speaker 2: you all get up and run around in circles. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, that during you know you're you're entertainment. You're
Speaker 2: the funniest thing out here, and we are. We're the
Speaker 2: most in that creature there is them was we trip
Speaker 2: over our own feet and then sid squats sit back
Speaker 2: and laugh at us. They say it's hillarious. They toss
Speaker 2: the tebble you're sitting there with camp right in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night, and I'll toss one tebble in
Speaker 2: the books circle where you're sitting. It won't hit you.
Speaker 2: They're they're good enough throwing things. They'll hit what they
Speaker 2: want to and this what they want to. If they
Speaker 2: toss that one, tell you a god, you see that.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets excited. We do. It's the fun's passion. On
Speaker 2: a tent in the middle of the night. He said, sir,
Speaker 2: if you're gonn't do anything, most of the time you don't.
Speaker 2: You're landing. They are scared to do because you don't
Speaker 2: know what's outside of the middle. Lindsay tent and you
Speaker 2: feel safer in there. They're system begins with the alpha
Speaker 2: mail over his family. He settles arguments and he'll bring
Speaker 2: you to task when you do something wrong, and if
Speaker 2: it's serious enough, he'll take you out plan and simple.
Speaker 2: If it goes beyond your family and you do something
Speaker 2: to another family, the head of that family will bring
Speaker 2: you to task, and if it goes beyond that, the
Speaker 2: local plan leader will take you to task. They have
Speaker 2: a system of judgment. It's very precise, very fair. Oh,
Speaker 2: they're the most forgiving creatures in the world and for
Speaker 2: us to come in and do it, we've done to
Speaker 2: their woods. Yeah, they have to be I asked her, well, God,
Speaker 2: in conversation, I told her about the one that I
Speaker 2: saw that day and she said, yeah, I know. You know,
Speaker 2: she said, yes, that was my son, and I kind
Speaker 2: of studied. She says, he was in training. He has
Speaker 2: not yet come into his own, but all their lives
Speaker 2: they're trup trained to do different things, and he was
Speaker 2: in training and they watch her. That is what the
Speaker 2: young males do. They watched the woods that were put
Speaker 2: back to the head of the family or the head
Speaker 2: of the klan to let them know what's going on.
Speaker 2: And they can do this mentally without ever leaving where
Speaker 2: they are. That's how she talked to me, was mentally
Speaker 2: they talk to each other like that. But when I
Speaker 2: describe this child child, listen to me, she said, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my son. I said, what was he doing? And
Speaker 2: he was practicing following you. You kept calling out to him.
Speaker 2: He couldn't carry you, but if he wasn't going to
Speaker 2: acknowledge you. But when you're stopped and look backwards where
Speaker 2: you had come from, he thought he had a chance
Speaker 2: to sneak across the road in some of you and
Speaker 2: you happen to turn around and see him. And yes,
Speaker 2: that posture, he was sneaking. He was walking quietly and
Speaker 2: had you not turned around, you wouldn't have known he
Speaker 2: was there. And we do this all the time. You
Speaker 2: need to watch behind you occasionally because wake the deer,
Speaker 2: like the coyotes. If you're traveling down the road in
Speaker 2: a corner, walking whatever, we will wait till you go
Speaker 2: by and your attention is away from us before we
Speaker 2: cross behind you. And I said, okay, you're you're tell
Speaker 2: me this is an adolescent. He's not like my church.
Speaker 2: She said, I'm not yet. I said, how big is thisrother?
Speaker 2: She said half again taller meaning half of his hide
Speaker 2: on top of his side of which makes the father
Speaker 2: somewhere in the neighborhood of ten feet tall. And I
Speaker 2: shuddered to think what they could do if they wanted to.
Speaker 2: If you met one in a bad mood, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: stand a chance. I don't care what you're carrying. Ten
Speaker 2: feet tall and probably in excess of one thousand pounds.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of force, and they are in rediably strong. Oh,
Speaker 2: I was sitting in my land one night with a
Speaker 2: side window open, and I was squeaky toy makes a
Speaker 2: loud squeal as a dog toy, and I was held
Speaker 2: it up against the window and I would squeeze it
Speaker 2: like just long wean, I make it sound like it
Speaker 2: was getting beat up, eating over whatever. We use this
Speaker 2: for calling coyotes when I was little. And I did
Speaker 2: this a couple of times and put it down. And
Speaker 2: when I looked at the back window in my van,
Speaker 2: there's a divider bar between the two back doors where
Speaker 2: they close little freedom and together from each door, probably
Speaker 2: about eight inches wide totaled. Well, when I looked up
Speaker 2: at that back window, know there's two golf ball size
Speaker 2: glowing red objects. And when I say glowing, now almost
Speaker 2: looked like they were on fire. It may have been
Speaker 2: its breath rolling up out of its nose and trading
Speaker 2: a mistress.
Speaker 1: I don't know big for society who would be right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 2: But these two eyes were at least an inch farther
Speaker 2: apart than the eight inch diviter. So those eyes were
Speaker 2: about ten inches apart, which means the head had to
Speaker 2: be twelve to fourteen inches wide. Think about the size
Speaker 2: of that that's bigger than a basketball, and that was
Speaker 2: staring in the back wonder of my van. I had
Speaker 2: to figure out what that squealing noise was. And luckily
Speaker 2: I didn't have anything in that van that looked like
Speaker 2: it was being abused in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Because I had the lights on inside of the land
Speaker 2: and he could see me in there, and I looked
Speaker 2: off for a second, looked back up. It was gone.
Speaker 2: He satisfied his curios, as they will guarantee. Those red
Speaker 2: iris were a very intense emotional state that he was in.
Speaker 2: He was ready to kill someone if he needed to.
Speaker 2: I've heard about eyeshiness yellow, green, blue, and red, and
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like a mood ring. The
Speaker 2: more intense their emotions are, the closer they get to rid.
Speaker 2: The blues, the yellows, the whites. They're very placid, laid back, peaceful.
Speaker 2: I've had time to think about all of this. I
Speaker 2: live in a van in the woods. I have six years.
Speaker 2: I'm by myself, and I'm not afraid of anything. I
Speaker 2: used to work with these woods with a five food
Speaker 2: hiking staff at a sharp fix bladed knife, and that
Speaker 2: was it, and I would walk for hours and never
Speaker 2: once felt threatened by anything, including subsquatch. They were very
Speaker 2: peaceful to the most part. There were clans that are
Speaker 2: not that are vicious, but the ones that I've met,
Speaker 2: I've had no problems with. The mental thing. I sound
Speaker 2: curious in all communications. They use that in long dissiance.
Speaker 2: If they need their maid, they need one of their children,
Speaker 2: they'll call that name come home, and the child knows
Speaker 2: where to go. Okay. Once they are at home, they
Speaker 2: speak to each other inverbally. They use their language because
Speaker 2: their language doesn't carry very far, like their thoughts. When
Speaker 2: they put the thoughts out, it's like going on the internet.
Speaker 2: Everybody can hear that, so they're very careful what they say. Mentally.
Speaker 2: They also have this form of writing that they don't
Speaker 2: want to speak. They can write names. Now do they
Speaker 2: have to mentally picture what they're writing is? Does that
Speaker 2: go out on the web. I don't know whether they
Speaker 2: can walk at but I would say the marketing is
Speaker 2: long distance. My friend and I were sitting out there
Speaker 2: in the woods one day and we heard three different knock,
Speaker 2: one south of US, one north of US, and one
Speaker 2: west of US, right behind each other. By y'all, by y'all,
Speaker 2: by y'all, And then we heard this major lore that
Speaker 2: they were gathering. The alpha males were gathering for what reason,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I wouldn't want to be the
Speaker 2: focus of their attention. They were taking care of business.
Speaker 2: I heard that roar at less than I would say,
Speaker 2: less than one hundred feet. I had parked in a
Speaker 2: little hideaway spot that I found. Would a word, woods
Speaker 2: get too full of smoke, I can go here and
Speaker 2: park and be out of the smoke that bothers my breeding.
Speaker 2: And I had done that one day, backed up in
Speaker 2: the spot, rolled my wonders down, just sitting there, you know,
Speaker 2: playing on my song. And there's a landfill not too
Speaker 2: far from there where their garbage goes, and the garbage
Speaker 2: truck running and oliver constantly. Well about three o'clock they
Speaker 2: started to ask now then knock off from work. And
Speaker 2: these kids, I say, kids, young guys and arrow each
Speaker 2: one is probably pays pickups come flying down that gravel
Speaker 2: road like they're running from the devil, but they're racing
Speaker 2: each other. They're playing. Well. Just about the time the
Speaker 2: trucks came flying by something subskuich. Let's out this roar
Speaker 2: that went on for something like ten to fifteen sconds.
Speaker 2: It was so loud it vibrated the air. You could
Speaker 2: feel it. I was sitting in front of the speaker
Speaker 2: at a concert. Every time they hit a base cord,
Speaker 2: the heroine I want buzz this. It was the same thing.
Speaker 2: This creature was really upset. I don't think it was
Speaker 2: upset to me because I stayed there. I let my
Speaker 2: wonders roll down. He was mad at those guys, young
Speaker 2: guys flying by in their trucks. Possibly they had gotten
Speaker 2: close to running over one of his children at some
Speaker 2: point in time, and he's still upset about it. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't I wouldn't want to be one of those guys.
Speaker 2: I want to go over the lampsa I don't want
Speaker 2: to go over there with spotlight one might see what's there.
Speaker 2: But as I travel around the country, I have family
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, and I was driving down the Indian Nations
Speaker 2: Highway one day and I can feel subsquatch in the
Speaker 2: woods around me when I'm driving. Just it registers with me,
Speaker 2: and I can few of this one sasquatch off the
Speaker 2: highway ways and I reached out to it mainly and
Speaker 2: I said good morning, and all of a sudden it
Speaker 2: set like the top of my head was going to spoil.
Speaker 2: The most painful headache wrapped around the top of my
Speaker 2: head like somebody was tightening a clamp on it. And
Speaker 2: this voice comes through and says, we don't want to
Speaker 2: talk to you. Male voice, very dominant male voice. And
Speaker 2: I said, okay, I apologize. I won't bother you again.
Speaker 2: And at that moment the pressure in my head went away.
Speaker 2: Can they urt you without touching you, Yes, they can.
Speaker 2: I went to a different camp round a while back,
Speaker 2: known for Sasquatch activity, and I announced my presidence when
Speaker 2: I got there, I let them momentally, I have come
Speaker 2: to visit. I mean your no warm I would liked
Speaker 2: to interact with you. Well. Their interaction in the was
Speaker 2: to slowly churn my stomach to where twenty four hours
Speaker 2: later I had to leave. I felt like death warmed
Speaker 2: over and as sot as I'll go across the bridge
Speaker 2: going into that campground, all of that dissipated. If they
Speaker 2: don't want you somewhere, they can get rid of you
Speaker 2: without ever laying hands on you, without you even knowing
Speaker 2: they're there. Because when you get sick and the last
Speaker 2: place you want to be is in the woods. If
Speaker 2: they get sick, the first place they want to be
Speaker 2: as in the woods because that's where their medicine is.
Speaker 2: Let's stay up here as long as I can. This
Speaker 2: is January of twenty twenty four, and let's say I
Speaker 2: have been in since April of twenty nineteen. It's been interesting.
Speaker 2: It's been an interesting education, one day at a time,
Speaker 2: just paying attention to what's around me, different little things
Speaker 2: that happened. I had a snarl. I'm gonna say that
Speaker 2: the baby that I told you about, the baby track,
Speaker 2: I saw its mother had been standing there watching me,
Speaker 2: probably at night, and she put that baby down, just
Speaker 2: warming us to do something and pick it up again.
Speaker 2: It never took a step. It wasn't a walking track.
Speaker 2: She put it down and picked it back up. That
Speaker 2: baby in twenty nineteen with the bathing arms. What it knew.
Speaker 2: She was watching this van, and it is growing out
Speaker 2: seeing this van, seeing me in and out around the van,
Speaker 2: hanging tarps on and doing things. It's gotten to know me,
Speaker 2: and I believe it's the one that comes by and
Speaker 2: leaves me in the presence cats on the window of
Speaker 2: the van at night, which it did. One night over snow,
Speaker 2: I was in the campground with Pop out wonder home
Speaker 2: side of my van. When there's long sliding door under us,
Speaker 2: and if you pop have it open and you tap it,
Speaker 2: it rains like though, long bong long. And I told
Speaker 2: her mentally, if you come by, knock on the van,
Speaker 2: let me know you're here. All about midnight one night,
Speaker 2: I hear this bone bone bong, and I reached her
Speaker 2: and tapped on the inside of the van three times,
Speaker 2: and I could hear something running away in the glass.
Speaker 2: She was out there. She wanted to let me know
Speaker 2: she was here, or I don't think she expected me
Speaker 2: to answer, and it startled her. The pleas that I
Speaker 2: told you, I'll spend a lot of time and have
Speaker 2: a lot of interactions with them. I was going there
Speaker 2: one day and I knew it was going to rain,
Speaker 2: and I crawled out to them and mess, I'm going
Speaker 2: to be in that campground. If you want to come
Speaker 2: by and visit, just knock on the van. Yes, they
Speaker 2: us to say. In the rain, in the wind, in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night, I thought a tree had
Speaker 2: fallen across the van. I heard this wild boom. The
Speaker 2: van shook sideways and look, I got a tree on
Speaker 2: the van. It's gonna be fun. I beg them down whatever.
Speaker 2: I walked around and there's no broken glass, no thing's leaking.
Speaker 2: So on, not to sleep. I'll deal with this when
Speaker 2: the sun comes up. Well the next morning, I get
Speaker 2: up and get my coffee, eat my breakfast, and go
Speaker 2: out to see what happened during the night. And as
Speaker 2: I walk around the van, I don't see anything on
Speaker 2: the ground. My stick around a branch. There's no trees
Speaker 2: that are down. I even climbed up on the back
Speaker 2: from a little on the top of the van. Nothing
Speaker 2: up there but my kayaks. So I called down and
Speaker 2: I said, warrant you come down last night? And this
Speaker 2: young female voice, that's just they didn't. Did you knock
Speaker 2: on the van? He said, didn't. I was her slapping
Speaker 2: the side of my van. I said, next time, just knock.
Speaker 2: How they three marks? She said, oh, okay, she does,
Speaker 2: gonna let me know she was there. And trust me,
Speaker 2: I knew that they're they're they're wonderful, intelligent creatures and
Speaker 2: they need their space. They don't mind interacting with us.
Speaker 2: Oh that's peaceful as long as we're not time to
Speaker 2: harm them or take over their territories. They're okay, Oh
Speaker 2: are more soon? More hilarious than they gone. That's that's
Speaker 2: about it. It's source hilarity the ongoing communication. At one time,
Speaker 2: the females husband got upset with her talking to me
Speaker 2: and told me. She told me she started getting distant.
Speaker 2: I couldn't couldn't ever get in touch with him. I
Speaker 2: finally got to talk to her one day and I said,
Speaker 2: what's it doing. She said, I can't talk to you anymore.
Speaker 2: I said why. She said, my husband doesn't approve. I said, okay,
Speaker 2: I understand, then, Aaron'm sorry. She said, but I can
Speaker 2: introduce you to an elder from another area that you
Speaker 2: can talk to. So she did, and I've been talking
Speaker 2: to him since. Her husband somewhere along the line, had
Speaker 2: a very bad interational with humans. He doesn't trust us
Speaker 2: for any reason, and I called him out. I said,
Speaker 2: I'll want to talk to you. I need to settle this,
Speaker 2: and he answered me. I said, I want to talk
Speaker 2: to you. I have no use for you. I said,
Speaker 2: I've never done you anything. He said, bro not in
Speaker 2: you personally, but humans have. I don't trust any of you,
Speaker 2: and I told him I said, you can trust me.
Speaker 2: Look at a hanging mother. The one thing that she
Speaker 2: told me was that as long as you don't give
Speaker 2: us a way and say exactly where we or other
Speaker 2: people can find us, we we'll talk to you, we'll
Speaker 2: interact with you. Well, he was just the opposite. He said,
Speaker 2: I don't care what you do. I'm I gonna trust you.
Speaker 2: I said, look, I'm trustworthy. He said, okay, let's say
Speaker 2: you are. But let's see you get in a circumstance
Speaker 2: that either your why of your children is gonna die
Speaker 2: or you have to lie about something. What would you do?
Speaker 2: Didn't why? He said, you see, I can't trust you
Speaker 2: extramee circumstance. But he's right. We can't be trusted. They
Speaker 2: know it. That's why they don't come around now. The
Speaker 2: older that I talked to so many different things. I
Speaker 2: asked down the same questions. I asked her a lot
Speaker 2: of them. Can you camouflage? He said, yes, we can.
Speaker 2: You can literally change your color. Hia. Well, she said,
Speaker 2: you come he said, according to what she has knows
Speaker 2: and what she has mentor because depending on the family
Speaker 2: that grow up in they don't know all that we
Speaker 2: can do. They would get their parents give them certain
Speaker 2: things that they feel safe for them to do. The
Speaker 2: rest of them, they don't teach them. So depending on
Speaker 2: which one of our people you talk to, you've got
Speaker 2: to get different answers. I said, okay, so let's go
Speaker 2: out of a lamp here. Can you tell a port?
Speaker 2: And he said, that's not what we call it. We
Speaker 2: call it traveling. I said that you can't do it.
Speaker 2: He said, yes, when we need to, and he almost
Speaker 2: went in through how when he stopped short. He said,
Speaker 2: you don't need to know that. I said, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: he said, but yes we can, he said. I said, well,
Speaker 2: I've done thisces mearily, I don't done at the projections
Speaker 2: years ago when I was studying in a psychic group
Speaker 2: and mentally went somewhere and confirmed the fact that I
Speaker 2: was literally there because somebody saw me there, but not physically.
Speaker 1: Big for society, who will be right back after these messages?
Speaker 2: He said, physically it takes a lot of energy. And
Speaker 2: we said, when she tells you that we are descended
Speaker 2: from the Nephilin, it's true. We have angel blood, sure
Speaker 2: breads do, and because of that we can teleport. We
Speaker 2: have that ability. Lesser bloods is it mixed with humans,
Speaker 2: cannot and yes it happens. They do mix with humans occasionally,
Speaker 2: and I think that's what the male's problem was with humans.
Speaker 2: He's not pure blood. He's mad at us because of it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, the elders suggests we can teleport. We call
Speaker 2: it traveling. And I said, well, how long does it
Speaker 2: take to get anywhere? He said, if I wanted to
Speaker 2: go from the west coast to the east coast, I
Speaker 2: would open a doorway and when I stepped into it,
Speaker 2: my back foot would be here, Mark flant foot would
Speaker 2: be there, and as sometimes I pulled my back foot
Speaker 2: through the doorway closes and I'm there totally. Okay, Set,
Speaker 2: that's okay. I believe if you say, that's what you
Speaker 2: can do. But I would have loved to see it now,
Speaker 2: and I would love to know how. But he says,
Speaker 2: your mental state is not such that you can know
Speaker 2: this because you would have use it. Yeman's abuse everything.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what it is we give. If somebody
Speaker 2: gives you a tool to do something with, to work
Speaker 2: with to fix thing, next thing, you know you're going
Speaker 2: to use them as a weapon. That's the first thing
Speaker 2: in cordible listen like a good club. I could be
Speaker 2: this until I'm for you can't beat rust. We have
Speaker 2: to watch you very carefully, and that is part of
Speaker 2: our job. We are watchers. We are here to make
Speaker 2: sure that if we can help we you don't destroy
Speaker 2: yourselves or the planet. So it goes on and on,
Speaker 2: and it's this rabbit hole gets deep with the long
Speaker 2: row walk in it. And I don't drink things verbatum
Speaker 2: just because somebody says something is so I don't get
Speaker 2: all good thing going this leuculum. No, I've got to prove.
Speaker 2: I've got to know for a flat And in my
Speaker 2: psychic training years ago, while I was in my late
Speaker 2: twenties or early thirties, I spent about five years of
Speaker 2: intense study in the psychic room, and the introduction to
Speaker 2: that was introduction to what some people call angels or
Speaker 2: higher souls or guides, different names for them. They are
Speaker 2: people who have been through some mislife physically, have mastered
Speaker 2: one or more things while they were here, and moved
Speaker 2: on to the spirit world, and they returned to be
Speaker 2: guardian angels, if you will, for people that are going
Speaker 2: through this physical plane. Now, I don't know how to
Speaker 2: contact them how to ask them questions, even down in
Speaker 2: the simplest things like loo should I eat for lunch?
Speaker 2: I will would be in my best interest because they'll
Speaker 2: never tell you what you should do. They can tell
Speaker 2: you the options of what you can do. Well. I
Speaker 2: use them to check out what I learned from Sasquatch,
Speaker 2: and they don't confirmed it. Most of it is absolutely true.
Speaker 2: As long as the Sasquatch are concerned and what they
Speaker 2: know and what they can share, I'm absolutely satisfied with
Speaker 2: living out here. Even though last night at one, say,
Speaker 2: when the grays was a bit chilly, I'll survive that too.
Speaker 2: I'm seventy six years old, been around this planet received
Speaker 2: times as it spans, saying the sun come up and
Speaker 2: set numerous times. Hard to feel, and I don't believe
Speaker 2: intently rid it quickly, Claude.
Speaker 1: That's that's an incredible account of the last few years,
Speaker 1: but also the years before that. And thank you for
Speaker 1: sharing that. Do you mind if I ask you a
Speaker 1: few questions about some things?
Speaker 2: No, no, be happy to answer them.
Speaker 1: So you had said that you know that some clans
Speaker 1: are vicious. How is it that you know that that
Speaker 1: some clans are actually vicious?
Speaker 2: Of of the Sasquatch, because they told me that there
Speaker 2: are there are histories in certain areas where they don't
Speaker 2: like people, and and short and warning about it. They'll
Speaker 2: kills it were just because they enter in the wrong place.
Speaker 2: They just they're just that set against us and vicious
Speaker 2: towards us. There are there's a mutation called a Gugway.
Speaker 2: I don't know, once you've heard of them, sure, O,
Speaker 2: that are very very vicious. Now typically sasqu Watch doesn't
Speaker 2: hear anything to do with them, not not the forest people,
Speaker 2: not the general plans. Oh, but the Dougway are feared
Speaker 2: just about everything now. And with that, there are people
Speaker 2: who communicate with Gugway. They had no fear of them.
Speaker 2: They never had a bad reaction from them. So it
Speaker 2: might depend on the area there, you know their history.
Speaker 2: I don't know I speak for all of them.
Speaker 1: Do you refer to getting psychic training? Was that through
Speaker 1: the military or what was the background of that.
Speaker 2: The reference I'm made to the magazine comic book. Reading
Speaker 2: the book starts up Triathlings. Oh. I was twenty three
Speaker 2: and listening to you know, listen to radio on Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 2: and this guy comes on and look up the people
Speaker 2: here there now the psychics name and teach you how
Speaker 2: to do that. And they had my attention right there.
Speaker 2: You had me from hello, okay, and I'll join this group.
Speaker 2: It's called the inter Peace Movement. They are now known
Speaker 2: as way show Worth's Fellowship. They changed their name in
Speaker 2: two thousand. They have a complete course of study and
Speaker 2: psychic knowledge, psychic training and can introduce you to your guides,
Speaker 2: tell you basically what your nature is. There's four types
Speaker 2: of sensitivity to the world this feeling, prophecy, intuhich, envision.
Speaker 2: They can tell you which ones you work most out
Speaker 2: of everybody has allfo and they go in depth in
Speaker 2: this and this goes on and on. Oh, very good program.
Speaker 2: And it's a self development program. Is how when I
Speaker 2: was actually organized by its original founder of Francisco Cole
Speaker 2: back in nineteen sixty four. He died, and he died
Speaker 2: in two thousand and his son has sense taken over
Speaker 2: his place. And it's not a warning the movement. But
Speaker 2: I've learned over fifty years of use and I can
Speaker 2: absolutely trust my axels to give me the right information
Speaker 2: and not to say it the trick me or you know,
Speaker 2: so I use them to validate whatever rugget whatever rough lined.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting when when you've been out in the
Speaker 1: woods or in any of your campgrounds, have you ever
Speaker 1: heard anything that sounds like a serious sounds recording.
Speaker 2: The chatter? No, I've never, Like I said, the closest
Speaker 2: thing I heard of the chatter was possible with that
Speaker 2: mumbling in that bush. Oh today, I don't know what
Speaker 2: I squatch a bear because I have encountered bears that
Speaker 2: when I get in our pressure situation, they'll they'll pop
Speaker 2: their guns and growl and it comes on. So you
Speaker 2: don't know what you're hearing. You know, if you don't
Speaker 2: see it. It's kind of word to figure out what
Speaker 2: it is. And a friend of mine who lives in
Speaker 2: a last to say, yes, they do that and they
Speaker 2: will make that helping sound okay, So that more than
Speaker 2: a bear, I know, I've never heard the chatter.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a life field was because it hasn't
Speaker 1: hasn't really come up, I think. But do you have
Speaker 1: any thoughts as to if sasquatch are involved with cases
Speaker 1: of people going missing at all?
Speaker 2: Yes? Almost should. Now, like I say, it depends on
Speaker 2: where you are, what you're doing. And what the Sasquats
Speaker 2: in that area are like. Typically it's tenmament lines they
Speaker 2: have been known through in native culture. Most of the
Speaker 2: trials will tell you that over the years, women have
Speaker 2: been abducted by you know, children have been abducted and
Speaker 2: they didn't come back. So did they eat them or
Speaker 2: did they just take them into their clans? And that
Speaker 2: may be where the crossbreaking comes in when the you
Speaker 2: know less than one original blood. So yeah, I ain't
Speaker 2: say that all disappearances are but I'd say quite a
Speaker 2: few of them when they when they find their shoes
Speaker 2: sitting side by side and the last place in the
Speaker 2: person was two weeks after they disappeared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so sure, based on what you know.
Speaker 1: Are there places in the US you would not go
Speaker 1: to to try to look for Sasquatch?
Speaker 2: No, And I say that because I think if you
Speaker 2: get in an area where you're not wanted, they'll let
Speaker 2: you know. Now, being sensitive like I am and knowing
Speaker 2: how to communicate with them, I feel much safer, you know,
Speaker 2: like I did in indercing myself in that camp around
Speaker 2: or something like, let them know that you're there, let
Speaker 2: them know you may no harm, and you probably won't
Speaker 2: have any problems. Now, if you're doing eything they don't like,
Speaker 2: the problems start. Even the one in the kay makes
Speaker 2: Your Mountains in Oklahoma, it wasn't that a mood. It
Speaker 2: wasn't no a good mood. And I've heard that about
Speaker 2: that area that they don't play you know they may
Speaker 2: so possibly maybe the reason I got that response.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that many encounters in the Kayamcheese
Speaker 1: and southeast Oklahoma are pretty intense. There's so many different
Speaker 1: ways that people have of trying to go out and
Speaker 1: to nature in trying to get connection. You know, there's
Speaker 1: everything from speaking in your mind like you ride up,
Speaker 1: to knocking on trees, to playing sounds to cooking certain
Speaker 1: types of food. Do you have any advice as to
Speaker 1: what might be the most effective way of trying to
Speaker 1: get a connection with sasquatch that are in the area.
Speaker 2: I figure out, well, Number one, they know you're here.
Speaker 2: You don't have to announce your presence most of the time.
Speaker 2: Although I do it as a courtesy knocking on trees,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't suggest it on that. For one thing, they
Speaker 2: have a method of signal lane one knocks, two knocks,
Speaker 2: three knocks, whatever and if you go out there and
Speaker 2: give the wrong simple you all to just set off
Speaker 2: the powre alarm and you're going to be overwhelmed with
Speaker 2: what happens. Oh the reason I did what I did
Speaker 2: was to put them into these I dress the same,
Speaker 2: I'm moving the same. I spoke soft for the whole time. Oh,
Speaker 2: just as a gesture of flagship. So if you go
Speaker 2: in the woods, if you're looking for some squatch, tell
Speaker 2: well straight up, I would like to meet you. I
Speaker 2: would like to see you if possible, or hear you
Speaker 2: if you don't feel comfortable meeting me. But I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna chase you. I don't have a gun. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna shoot you a mania no more. Will come as
Speaker 2: a friend. And if you do that mentally and verbally,
Speaker 2: think you'd be all right. If they don't want you there,
Speaker 2: you'll know it pretty quick.
Speaker 1: If you get in a point where it becomes evident
Speaker 1: where they don't watch you in that area, what would
Speaker 1: your recommendation be for those people to do in that situation?
Speaker 2: Leave the sap, excuse yourself. I'm sorry to have intrude
Speaker 2: it in your in your woods, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: leave as quickly as possible and do so. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you get I mean, we have any innate ability to
Speaker 2: sense what's around us, that little feeling in the clitty
Speaker 2: or something to sell things not right, that's the best
Speaker 2: way in the Lord of Judge's situation. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. If you walk up. I walked in the
Speaker 2: bars before, just you know, I having a good time,
Speaker 2: and when I grabbed the door handle, my stomach would
Speaker 2: turn like she's you know, Summer's little lifting tonight. Well,
Speaker 2: I get inside and the whole there's nothing going on
Speaker 2: that you can see what everybody in there is visibly upset.
Speaker 2: And I talked to one of the bar maids, like,
Speaker 2: what is going on? This is the bacebook placement all
Speaker 2: One of the bar maids just went off on the
Speaker 2: owner and he physically threw her over here. And oh
Speaker 2: that's what I said. Okay, you know I'll pick it
Speaker 2: up walking in the door. If you trust that, it'll
Speaker 2: keep you out of a lot of type places.
Speaker 1: Clott, I think that's some great advice, and I just
Speaker 1: want to say thank you for sharing what you've experienced,
Speaker 1: but also sharing some really interesting thoughts and advice regarding
Speaker 1: what people can do if they're wanting to try to
Speaker 1: make a connection themselves. And thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. I'll thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I hope that your audience does gain something from this,
Speaker 2: because that's I came up here to learn about self, squatch.
Speaker 2: I didn't come up here to be a big shot
Speaker 2: on YouTube there it didn't matter to me. I wanted
Speaker 2: to know and I've found out and that's basically where
Speaker 2: I am now. I have add ons every once in
Speaker 2: a while, you know, experiences and that I just kind
Speaker 2: of but I'm with the others and I enjoy it.
Speaker 2: So thank you for having mails.
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