Speaker 1: I looked over and I see this figure out of
the corner of my eye. And as I look over,
this red figure, it's like a flash of red, bright red,
you know, about steven maybe seven and a half feet tall,
catches my eye and right as I look over, I
had my eye on him for about a second or two,
it's gone. I don't know. It was almost like I
could see legs and arms and everything. I could see
the whole figure of the neck and the head and everything.
It was almost like it blew itself up in red. Well.
I was doing VF. Parro stuff before I even started
going out by myself, kind of just to get a
rundown of what they do and you know what I
needed to know.
Speaker 2: Like on one of their trips that they had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like on one of their trips. Yeah, I went
to like Yakama once and then I went to like
northern Idaho another time. Yeah, up in the Panhandle. It
by Courtlaine. And then I like a couple of years
after that, I did the finding Bigfoot stuff in Cortline.
That was all good experience, even though we didn't have
a lot of activity.
Speaker 2: Were part of the town hall of one of the episodes.
Speaker 1: Whenever they came to Pocatello, I was able to get
into that one. Or it took place in like a
fort and they only allowed a certain amount of people
into that one, and I basically got into that one,
and I did take part in that one. But then
when they had that when we were doing the show,
they asked us not to come to the town hall,
which is kind of a bummer because that was my
favorite part. So I yeah, when they did it Cortlin,
I wasn't able to go to that one, but I
did a lot of running around with Matt and this
and that, and.
Speaker 2: How much of a difference was there behind the scenes
with what was going on. You had the show, but like,
were you guys actually out there big footing and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than what you see on TV.
And a lot of a lot of this stuff that
they had that they had a stud didn't even make
it on the show, some of the footage and stuff
like that. I was always out with Matt or Byeboe
or Tyler is one of the guys that does a
lot of their scouting for like places to go, and
so yeah, I was always out with somebody. It is
kind of different like like on camera they would say, oh,
you can't say that, Oh you can't do that. So
there there was some of this and that that I
didn't expect where they said, oh you should say that,
or you can't say that on camera, or like.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you take them to like an actual location
where you had an encounter.
Speaker 1: So I didn't take them too since they were in
northern I do. I don't have a lot of experience
with like the areas up there. They could do here
because my encounter was sawtooths and bitter mountains and they're
up in like clear water and there's there's a lot
of activity up there, a lot more in here, and
so no, I didn't really know where to go. I
just knew, like you know, kind of like what they
do how they researched from the BFROS site, Like, oh
there's sighting here a year ago. Maybe we could go
there and see if anything happens, you know, and then
kind of kind of bouncing off the crip leaders and
stuff like that. Even when I went out with Kevin.
Kevin was the guy that I met at Yakawa. He
did the one over here in northern Idaho. It was
basically some of the same crew that came when Washington
came over here. You know, you're helping the panhandles. So
it's there's areas up there where it's gets thrilled, like
Willington miles across, you know, way out there.
Speaker 2: I've heard quite a few like very uh, I'm gonna
say intense big foot encounters from Idaho over the years.
Quite a few pretty amazing ones. What was your first encounter?
Speaker 1: Like? So, basically me and a friend because I got
I got onto all this doing hiking, you know, hiking
in and out remote areas. And there's an area out
there called Lion Lake. And so Lion Lake is a
good I mean to take a dart road for probably
twenty twenty five miles out outside of town once you
leave the pavement and then you get to the trailhead
and near another five or so five and a half
miles into the lake. And so he and I went
out there. And I'd been going every year right before
he even started going with me to this same location, Yeah,
to the same lake only because I had about activity
ed Land Lake. So I'm like, okay, well I want
to go there too, and I find out what this
place is like and so I'd been going every year
by myself with nobody hiking in, getting there early, coming back,
not having activity, not spending the night and things like that,
and then the one time I bring somebody, we ended
up having to spend the night and it wasn't even
planned out, I mean, was sleeping back or anything. We
didn't have nothing, basically had a backpack, so because basically
I was, we weren't hiking with a compass or anything
like that, no GPS. It is kind of interesting how
your stuff leaves the reception and batteries get dreamed really
quickly out there, kind of like I don't know if
you've heard about that, but BFRO always talks about that stuff.
You know, battery batteries that were brand new go dad uh.
Things that have been fully charged automatically, you know, lose
charge within an hour. So there was that kind of
stuff going on. And then I noticed that almost right
away we were on the trail coming we went to
the lake right and there's an old plane crash out there.
There's an old plane crash froom like World War two,
and those guys had to they had to get out
of there on their own, and then they're picked up
from there. But when we went to the plane crash,
and it's just a whole of a plane, basically, there
was a few parts here and there, and so we
were coming back and of course I always take this
shorter route, and my buddy's like, oh, no, let's go
this way. It's gonna let's try a different way back.
And I'm like, dude, we should never do that. We
should never do that, you know, And you should always
take the same route and take a different route if
you don't know where you're going right with no map
or nothing. So but I couldn't talk them out of it,
and I'm like, oh, man, we shouldn't be doing this,
or we should be doing this. So we ended up
on a different trail. I knew we were headed in
general direction of the main road we came in on.
I was kind of nervous because I'm like, man, we
should Why didn't we just go back the way we
came and it would have been more since.
Speaker 2: And you had never taken this other trail before.
Speaker 1: I know, I'd never taken this other trail before other
than looking at maps and doing there. I knew there
was a couple of ways that you could go in
but this route of about five miles or so is
the shortest, and so as we're going out, I'm like, Okay,
we're probably going towards the road, but then then we're
going to have to figure out where the car is. Yeah,
And so you know, one thing leads to another. I mean,
we we walked all day and it's getting to be
dark and we're still walking, We're still going, we're still moving.
And I just finally said, because it was almost i
mean it was past nightfall, it was getting getting to
be so dark, I just couldn't go anymore. And I
could just feel the blisters on my feet. And I
wasn't about to take my boots off or anything, but
I just finally said, dude, I'm just gonna crash right here.
I don't know what you're gonna do, but I'm just
gonna lay lay it down right here on the trail.
And so, because it's single.
Speaker 2: Track, I mean, that had to be kind of terrifying, right.
Speaker 1: I was a little nervous. I hadn't had a lot
of a lot of activity at that point, but I'm
still like, Okay, this is not good. I've never done
this before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just in the sense of like not being prepared
to stay overnight and all that and not knowing where
you are really being prepared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you know, and normally I don't even
care abo backpack with me because it said day hike, right,
you're in and you're out. Yeah, So I happened to
have backpack and I had matches and stuff in there,
and I was able to, like we gather up some
wood and like started a little fire and things like that,
and you know, sure enough we're out there. We could
kind of hear like like he could he said he
saw he heard wrestling like off the trail in the trees,
because she was a little ahead of me. And I'm like, okay,
that's kind of weird. Let's go a little further. And
once we stopped, I just thought, well, we're going to
camp here. Screw it. I mean, we're not going to
get back to get a car in the next in
fifteen minutes. So I figured it's going to be easier
to wait till it's light again and then we'll, you know,
we'll reassess what we're doing and keep going up to
the road and hopefully find the car. And then right
about then, like I'd gotten a fire started, and sure enough,
we hear what's like sounded like some kind of like
a like a siren or something like that, like a
like a fire engine siren, but it's sounded like to us.
And I mean, the thing was loud.
Speaker 2: Was it nearby?
Speaker 1: It was fairly close, but we couldn't see anything. I mean,
it was black, and it didn't have a I didn't
have like headlamper because I didn't bring any of that stuff.
So and and like my phone was dead. Everything was
dead by then, so I didn't have a light source
or anything. And then so we go to lay down
and we decided, you know, we wanted to keep the
fire going, right because it was kind of cool. It's July,
but it's dull. It's gold up.
Speaker 2: There right having a fire going.
Speaker 1: Right, So we definitely had fire going, and we decided, well,
let's just sleep. Well, one will take turns sleeping while
the other one make sure the fire's going. So that's
what we're doing. But as we were leaning down, we
saw these like, you know, kind of like yellow warps
and they were down close to the ground and I
don't even know if it's eyes, I don't know what
they were they were. They were yellow, but they were
they weren't real bright. That was the weird thing. They were. Yeah,
I don't know how to describe it. They were kind
of a dim yellow. And it was kind of funny
because he only remembered one and I remember it too,
and I didn't know what to make of it. It
was just it's really really bizarre.
Speaker 2: Could you tell how far away they were?
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, they weren't. They weren't. Probably only maybe thirty
feet from.
Speaker 2: Us maybe, so just kind of at the edge of
the camp light.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Yeah, it was at that point in the
trail there's a sick zag, and it was it was
right at the edge of where the where you're turned
to go back down, and and we didn't know what
to make of it. I didn't even know if I
should approach it at the time, because I just thought,
what the heck is this sing? Yeah, you know, almost
like taking in a movie. I mean, you didn't know
what to think. And you know, it was there for
these two hours or more. I mean it was there
for a long time.
Speaker 2: Did it stay in one spot or did it move around?
Speaker 1: No, it stayed in one spot lower to the ground.
They're so big around maybe a few inches of the cross,
or so two and a half three inch of the
crossed each one. Like when I was lit up, it
was kind of like it was almost like giving up,
like little puffs of smoke and stuff. So I didn't Yeah,
I didn't know exactly what to make of it really
at the time. And I'm like, do you see that?
He's like, yeah, I see it, and so I know
you saw it too, and I'm like, I don't know
what to make of this whole thing. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And you guys had already heard the siren sound.
Speaker 1: We had already heard this. Yeah, we had already heard
the siren. The siren was the first thing that happened
when we heard.
Speaker 2: That you were going to this location because of your
interest in Bigfoot? Was he interested in Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: Two?
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: I started out as skeptic.
Speaker 2: When you guys heard that siren call? Did you both
just go to Bigfoot as the pos.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think of it. I mean
I didn't. It's not like we heard wrestling and stuff
like that, and the bushes after after that that was
the weird thing. I mean, we heard it and then
it stopped and that was it. And so I didn't
know what to make of it. I mean, I surely
was gonna run down there and find out what we
call it on right, yeah's trail. But and I don't
think he was going to either, So I just, uh,
I was like, okay, let's keep on going, Let's see
what happens here, all right, Yeah, yeah, almost like a
roller coaster ride, like you don't know what to expect.
And then you know, we had that, We had those
yellow orbs for you know, a good two two and
a half hours least, not more. And then about that time,
like I'm just laying there, right, I mean I didn't
really get a real sleep, But about that time I
looked over and I see this figure out of the
corner of my eye catches me and I'm thinking of
it's something like maybe something's little off fire or whatever.
And as I look over this red figure, it's like
a flash of red, bright red, you know, about seven
maybe seven and a half feet tall, catches my eye
and right as I look over, I had my eye
on it for about a second or two, it is gone.
Her story didn't see that, I mean, he has back turned.
But everything else I experience, he had the same experience
I did.
Speaker 2: So the red thing was that like eyeshine or what
was that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was almost like I could see
legs in arms and everything.
Speaker 2: Like you could see the whole figure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see the whole figure of the neck
and the head and everything, and it was almost like
it blew itself up in red color red. Huh. And
you know it was kind of funny because I talked
to it, you know, because of course you get together
with the BOFRO guys and I talked about that, and
he goes, you have had other people say stuff like that,
like that flash of red or a flash of color,
We'll just pop up out of the door and you know,
you're out the dark. So I mean, it's kind of
hard to miss it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to make a the whole thing,
and you know, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 2: I mean, whenever it's dark, you know, the loss of
light means loss of color vision, right, So whatever it was,
I mean, it had to have been producing some sort
of light for you to see the color red.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, that's like when I had green eyeshine, you
know that. I brought that up with Renee and she
was like, what was the lie source. And I'm like,
I don't know what to tell you. Who's by a
luminess and you're out there in darkness, you know, I
mean there was no real light source. It wasn't very
bright that night. He hardly seen stars out even you know, yeah, yeah,
it was pretty dark without the fire, there wasn't much there.
Speaker 2: And this red figure that you saw, I mean, was
it like the classic shape of a bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a classic shape with conical head, yeah,
almost snow neck, yeah, a little snow neck. And then
you know, the whole experience was just, I guess, kind
of surreal at that point. I mean, you don't know
what's going on, what's happening. Yeah, And then and then
like when we started heading out the next morning, like
nothing happened after that other than sleeping. But the next
morning when we started heading out, where we could hear
calls going from one going to the other, and that
was going on for a long time. When we started walking,
it was probably like the birds were chirping. So I
figured it had to be right around five thirty or six,
and it was light enough to where we could see
where we're going, and uh, weeked here you know, two
calling back and forth to each other, and that went
on for a good hour or so.
Speaker 2: Were they on the opposite sides of the trail you
were on or on the same side I'm.
Speaker 1: Trying to think, because that trail turned and then it
went through a stream and they were up on the
other side, like they would have been further down the
river and up like maybe midway up at all side.
So I don't even know if they're on a trail
or if they're just out there in the woods somewhere.
At that point, I just wanted to tell out of there, right, Yeah,
it was. It was another experience. I just want out
of there at that point. But we're just like, what
the hell is that? His first reaction is is his
kids playing? And I'm thinking, dude, five thirty or six
in the morning, my kids are can plain to be
playing out here right.
Speaker 2: Out in the wilderness. A couple of kids out there
yelling at five thirty in the.
Speaker 1: Morning, Yeah, right, yelling back and forth. And uh, there
was you know, because what happened in the end is
I was we're getting so sore from walking so long
that he he ended up he ended up running ahead
of me and by then we were you know, he
went down this You go down the hill and then
you go through there's like a bridge right there, a
couple of bridges that you cross and you go up
another little hill. By that time you get that far
there was there was some campsites, so I guess he
was just like beinging on somebody's door, like wanting to
get help. He had to work that day. I didn't
have to work, so he he was just like all nervous,
he's gonna be late for work. But this guy, this
guy ended up getting on his dirt bike and he
ended up coming looking for me. Oh wow. Yeah, Eventually
he did find me. But at that point, you know,
I thought I'd lost him because you know, I had
went as far as he went, and somehow he found
that trailer, he found that camper, and I'm like, where
the hell are you, dude, because and I was like
yelling for him, like I didn't know what the heck
was going on, right And at that time, like I
was walking back and forth like I was I was
since I was solo. I was just trying to move
as much as I could. And I had done that
like two or three times, like went down that hill
over both those bridges, and then I had to be
right in the vicinity where that campra was somewhere, but
never did see it. And then the last time I
was just determined. I'm like, Okay, screw this, and I'm
thinking I'm just gonna walk back and go the way
I came and freaking go back to where I know
the car's at. And I was thinking I was just
going to walk back. And then at that point, I
was just I was sitting on my backpack for about
ten minutes and I could hear this dirt by coming
and I'm thinking, oh, man, this could be for me.
So I was just sitting there for about fifteen minutes
and I could hear the spike coming, you know, just
turn up the trail, and then he got up to
me and he stopped and he's like, are you wrong.
I'm like, uh yeah. He's like, oh we Tory. Tory
found us from there. I just got out of there.
He gave us ride back to my car and everything. Wow.
So yeah, it was quite the experience. I called the
Loon Lake Ruby Meadow's Adventure. What do I call it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's crazy, man, Yeah, isn't it. I had no idea,
And like I said, Idaho does not disappointed in the
intense bigfoot encounters. But I think that might be one
of the best ones for sure. Like the idea of
kind of being lost out there in the middle of
the wilderness and dealing with that, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, that's one of the more crazier ones that
I've heard about too. My other experience was I didn't
see anything, but I hiked in this before I had
any hid any sightings. I hiked. I hiked in an
area around here called Dry Canyon. I guess somebody had
some activity in Dry Canyon just a couple of years ago.
I haven't been over there in a long time, but
in Dry Canyon I found a I didn't have anybody
with me on that trip, but I found a castle
hanging up on a lake on a broken tree branch,
you know, about seven feet high or so.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Just uh yeah, just castle hanging up high in a tree.
Sounds like somebody had activity. They were just I think
it's twenty twenty two or twenty three, something like that.
Speaker 2: And I would assume no cattle in the.
Speaker 1: Area, not that I know. I never did see any cattle.
I'm sure, deer any other stuff, but I never did
see in cows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like something I've heard several times.
Speaker 1: I mean I heard that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people finding like random skulls kind of stuck up
on trees out in the middle of the.
Speaker 1: Woods, right, Yeah, it's kind of like a marker.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I've also heard like there's an area there's
a town called McCall somewhere outside of my call, not
tons in the mountains, but some somewhere outside of town.
Or somebody said they found a big pile of bones
and they're like, you know, bear doesn't do that. If
it's not a person, then you know, that kind of
narrows it down pretty quickly. Yeah, you know, if you're
just finding some random bones, just like in a pile.
I found something kind of similar. It wasn't really a pile,
but it's kind of like just various buttons, maybe like
ten along the canal.
Speaker 2: Now, have you had any other sidings.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My other sighting was so there's an area called
Redfish Lake. It's in the Sautus near Stanley. I mean,
if there's a guy in my group, Travis Terry, he
he's seen a whole family in that area. So I
hiked in with him, and there's if you go, there's
some bench lakes above Redfish. So we hiked into what's
called Kramer Lakes. There's mid Cramer, there's a lower creamer,
mid creamer, and upper creamer. And you and I hiked
in there and we got to we got to we
got to a campground on the first day, and we
had something room through our camp you know, flash green ice,
and this one was bigger. This one was taller, tously
greens trouble what I've been told. But and this is
a nightfall, you know, I could I could see a figure,
but it wasn't like it was it's black either. And
we had something room through. Well, what happened first was
kind of weird because it had you know, we had
something up above us, and it was kind of like
a it's kind of like a shiny ball with points,
you know, because we thought we were being paralleled on
the trail. Anyway, way before any of this happened into camp, Yeah,
like going into camp once we decided to start putting
our camping stuff down and every thing we could you're
wrestling in the grass. And then right about then I
looked up and I could see a shining ball maybe
like ten fifteen feet above the trees.
Speaker 3: Kind of like this disco ball things. It was kind
of like that, but I had points on it, and
I asked Travis.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, do you see that? He goes yep,
And it was there for like maybe seventy eight seconds,
and then all of a sudden, it just lowered itself
into the trees and then nothing for about a minute
or two, and then right about then this figure rooms
through our camp. Wow. Yeah, I know. And this one
was I think it was bigger. It looked like a male.
To me, it seemed like it was bigger, but also
a knical head, and it just, you know, it flashed
with green eyes at us. I'm just looking at him, going,
what the hell was that? And so we're there two nights.
So that happened the first night. We didn't have anything
else happened that night other than that. And then the
next night I got a whoop, like after I'd been
in my tent already, and I asked him, I was like,
did you hear that? And he said he didn't hear it.
Speaker 2: So whenever you said it flashed its green eyes at you,
the eyes aren't lit up and then they are like
it like a flash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really you know, the way it moved,
it had perfect Patterson gimblin for him with the arms
way and everything, and how the hallow legs spread apart,
and he you know, he's looking at us and then
he looks forward. He looks at us again, did that
a few times. And then those those eyes were I
don't think of it. I don't think of it as
a reflection. I mean, this is an actual shine. But
it was different than like like when you see deer's
eyes or or whatever and they pop out front of
your car and kind of get that reflection. It wasn't
like that. These eyes really lit up.
Speaker 2: And this ball that you saw it looked metallic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, looked at my talla kind of like but it
looked kind of kind of like a mirror. So I
told other people about this and they and they, like,
my one friend Greg said, yeah, I was must have
been importal, And I'm like, I don't know. We didn't,
you know, we we thought we were being trailed or
paralleled on the trail, but you know the thing so stealth,
we didn't hear hear a lot, you know here you're
a tweag snap once in a while. But it wasn't
like it was a big wrestling and all that for
something that big.
Speaker 2: How big was the ball thing?
Speaker 1: The ball was probably it was like basketball size probably.
Speaker 2: And it had you said, like spikes all over it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it had like points all all the way around it.
And it was like pulsing, you know. When it was moving,
it was like going in and out.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then as it's doing that, it's it's also a lowering, luring, luring, lawing,
you know, and then thinking to myself, what the hell
is that? Never seeing anything like that, so I was like,
what the hell.
Speaker 2: Any sound associated with it?
Speaker 1: No, I think so I don't remember any sound.
Speaker 2: Man. I don't think I've ever heard anything like that before.
I've heard a lot of or stories, you know, but
like nothing like a metallic ball or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was that was kind of hair raising. I've
heard about it once before. But you know when they
say this thing like Mildrum's license North American Ape, and
I'm like, is it early ape or is it something
like we don't know, we might not even know what
this thing is, you know. Yeah, So the more I
researched it. The more I find out, I'm like, is
it even from Earth? You know? I mean, when stuff
like this happens, really got to make you wonder.
Speaker 2: And did anything like follow you guys out or mess
with you after that?
Speaker 1: No, but you know, there was kind of weird because
I don't remember anything else. But you know, years ago,
I think it was like two twelve or twenty thirteen,
there was a guy that hiked in there alone and
he so we're there, so it's got that bench lake.
We went to the right and pretty much stayed to
the right until we got to the upper lakes. He
went to the left and stayed to the left and
went to a different area. I haven't been there, but
think there's an area in there called the Elephant's Perch.
And I don't know exactly where he was, but he
ended up he ended up coming up missing, and they
never they never did find him, and they never did
find like what happened to him or anything. But I
remember hearing about it. And then it was like the
they searched an area a few different times, and then
they went back to the same area and his belongings
were there. Oh wow, Yeah, weird.
Speaker 2: Huh have you ever experienced like missing time or anything.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't really had anything like that happened. All
I know is like for me, I never did have
any UFO experiences prior to this stuff. But now I've
definitely seen stuff I can't explain. Not missing time, but yeah,
I've definitely seen some things I can't explain, like.
Speaker 2: Just randomly things in the sky or things that you think.
Speaker 1: Are like, well different things. I used to get this
light that I would see up this sky and this
is a Super Bowl night of twenty thirteen. Yeah, So
I was driving back. I watched the game at my
brother's house and driving home and I was on my
way home and I'm driving home. I'm like, see this light,
you know, kind of but not very high up, And
I'm like, what the hell is that? So I turned
the car off, because that car had the light should
stay on unless the car was off. So I turned
the car off and got the binoculars out, and I
could see something kind of like diamond shaped with the
multicolored and you know, the lights were multicolors of spinning. Yeah,
And I was watching them for about seventy eight seconds,
and right about then it just ISSU went zipped up
you know, straight up, and then right about then it
started fallowing the ridgeline as hill and so I'm like, okay,
I'm following it. So I followed it up this canion
and I went about eight or nine miles up the stanyon.
But it was winter, so I got to a point.
But I I mean, when I was following it, it's
winter time and I'm on the dirt Whart's normally a
dirt road, driving, you know, as fast as I could,
probably fifty miles an hour follow us soon and the
roads roads, I'll run it out and everything. And uh,
I was trying trying my best follow it. And there's
an old hot springs there that everybody used to go
to and ride to. Hot Springs is where the where
the the road was plowed after that. So this thing
just it was just kind of cruising and right as
I stopped, it just kind of went over the hood
of the car and just kept going. And then next
next canyon over that way is green Corn because that's
where we used to ride motorcycles in the air a lot.
So I thing just cruised right over the top of
the car and just kept cruising back the other way. Wow,
that was definitely interesting and I think I've seen that.
Speaker 2: More than once, like that same one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a diamond shape and it spins and
you know at the multi colored lights, and it's always
pretty close to the ground, you know, because it wasn't
as high as the hill that have followed and it stop,
it went straight up and just kind of followed the
ridge of the hill, and then that's when I started
following it.
Speaker 2: Are UFO something that's commonly reported in the area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have some UFO stuff going on. I don't
know how much they have going on up there, but
we definitely have definitely up there they have bigfoot stuff
and in there, I think there's been some USO stuff,
not like Area fifty one stuff, but definitely some stuff
right m And then another time I was walking here
with my dog. There's this little area where I follow
a canal and I've kind of heard about stuff in
that kind of in that adrenal area, even though I
haven't had anything happen. And we always follow the canal
and we kind of we get off off the bench
and then go down by the canal and then it
kind of goes to a little area where the dog
can play and stuff. As we were coming back, I
saw two little craft, you know, too small craft just cruising,
not going very fast. Each had a red light and
a green light.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: It was pretty It was pretty wild because they were
you almost can't see them. If they didn't have a
light on them, you would almost miss it. And they
each had two lights. But then as I'm looking at it,
I mean I didn't want to come over by us, hopefully,
but I mean the dog just stopped and I got
down and I'm just kind of watching it because it
was on the other side of the fence. Yeah, and
as I'm watching it, I swear I could see, like,
you know, a little being in there, like piloting this craft.
I mean it's freaking the wildest thing ever. Yeah, like pilot,
Like I could see something moving around in there. It
wasn't very big craft, so I mean it was pretty
small to be in that craft because it wasn't very big.
You know. You hear these stories where they could be
nine feet tall and it could be like inches tall.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, and what shape was the crafts
the craft was so I could make out kind of like.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like classic similar like like I
used to watch Judson's when I was younger, and I
remember that had the glass top and then it kind
of had the ring around it. But this was really
small and scale to that one, but it was similar
to that. Yeah, that's That's basically all I remember about that.
Speaker 2: So do you think there's a connection between the Bigfoot
and this stuff?
Speaker 1: Well, it makes you wonder, you know, you never think,
you never think. So tell you have a sighting and
then all of a sudden, all this other stuff happening
starts happening, and then it's got to make you wonder,
you know, is it connected? Or it also make wonder
you know, who's you know they talk about these men
in black and it just your brain just goes crazy
with stuff, you know, of what's really going on when
you start having all this stuff going on.
Speaker 2: One of the stories I've heard about Idaho, a guy
came on the show talking about it, was he had
an encounter with what he described as a wolf, a
black wolf, but it was like incredibly large, like six
foot tall at the shoulder. Have you heard anything about
giant wolves or anything in the area.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard a lot about it. My friend Travis,
when I had my second account said he came across
something like that on the green Belt. Stay caught over here.
It's just a bike path along the river, and he
said he came across something like that. I think he
said it was wee hours in the morning, and it
sounded like it was, you know whatever Ready thinks of
his dog man. And I've never come across anything like that,
but you know, Wisconsin and Minnesota and those places seems
like they have a lot of stories like that.
Speaker 2: There seems to be quite a few stories of those
type things up in the Northern States. Yeah, that will
about do it. I know you're busy, so I don't
want to keep you too long or anything, but I
appreciate you coming on here and sharing some of your encounters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me.
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