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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Occult Rejects.
Speaker 6: Today's episode, we got a very very very special guest,
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Speaker 6: Cosmic Summit. But before we introduce the guests, I'm going
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Speaker 4: And today we got my man Tyrone. What is going on? Sir?
Speaker 4: How are you? Please let everybody know where they can
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Speaker 7: Hey. Everything you can find on me is on my
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Speaker 2: Thanks Nick, appreciate it, bro of.
Speaker 6: Course, thank you for joining us, and we got my
Speaker 6: man Headless Giant.
Speaker 4: What is going on, sir?
Speaker 8: How are you doing? You can find me on Twitter
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Speaker 8: Check out my Instagram page. I'm going to be putting
Speaker 8: up a bunch of art there, and if you have
Speaker 8: any sort of paranormal slash strange stories, you can email
Speaker 8: it to me at the Headless Giant podcast at gmail
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Speaker 8: I got my buddies Ricardo and Ethan Indigo coming on
Speaker 8: to do our trialogues on Sunday, so I will definitely
Speaker 8: check that out.
Speaker 6: Thank you awesome, Thank you very much, sir, And we
Speaker 6: got Doc Brown Prometheus Lenz joining us today.
Speaker 4: What is going on, sir? How are you? Thank you
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Speaker 3: Making it and I appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Nick, I appreciate it, of course, no,
Speaker 4: thank you, And we got Sarah. What is going on? Sarah?
Speaker 4: Thank you very much much for making it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Hi, thanks for having me. I'm Sarah. I am public
Speaker 9: relations for the Institute for Natural Philosophy, so I will
Speaker 9: be filling in for Ricardo today. I'm also the co
Speaker 9: host of the Universal Unveiled podcast, so be sure to
Speaker 9: check that out.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Definitely go check out that podcast.
Speaker 6: They've had some really good guests on so far. You know,
Speaker 6: I was one of them. So and then finally finally
Speaker 6: to the man the episode. But you know, before I
Speaker 6: introduced Ashton, I do want to say that when I
Speaker 6: was at the Cosmic Summit. There was a few things
Speaker 6: I had noticed that there was a few speakers there
Speaker 6: that actually seemed to hang out with the crowd and
Speaker 6: the people more than others instead of just hanging out
Speaker 6: with the other speakers. And besides Billy Carson, I will
Speaker 6: say that Ashton Forbes, in my opinion, was probably with
Speaker 6: the people the most.
Speaker 4: They saw him hanging out with them talking to him.
Speaker 6: He's out there on his computer, he's trolling people on Twitter, way,
Speaker 6: he's hanging out with his friends at the Cosmic Summit.
Speaker 4: He was unreal, you know, And I was like, this
Speaker 4: is a real motherfucker.
Speaker 6: I'm going to beg him to come on the show,
Speaker 6: and he's gonna do it, Ben, because we'll got tired
Speaker 6: of me asking.
Speaker 4: Here he is Ashton. And before before.
Speaker 6: We get into the show, something I just want to
Speaker 6: mention for the people who are into the occult. I
Speaker 6: don't want to kind of screw up the flow of
Speaker 6: the show today because it's gonna be a lot more
Speaker 6: science and technical, but something that we have talked about before.
Speaker 6: Even when it comes to nine to eleven, every one
Speaker 6: of those planes was an Alice the Crowley book. It
Speaker 6: was a number that matched Alice to Crowley. The Boeing
Speaker 6: seven seven seven matches Alice to Crowley seven seven seven.
Speaker 6: And he does even have a book that's liber three seventy.
Speaker 6: So again, I just do find it interesting how what's
Speaker 6: going on with this plane? Even the numbers match Crowley Again,
Speaker 6: Uh so think of it whatever you will with that.
Speaker 6: But now we're gonna get into some smart stuff. We're
Speaker 6: gonna ask him a bunch of questions to explain things
Speaker 6: that I don't understand.
Speaker 4: So Ashton, please.
Speaker 6: Let everybody know what your deal is and what you're
Speaker 6: about and where they can find all of your amazing work.
Speaker 2: So please, I'm the ORB guy. Now, I'm I made
Speaker 2: three seven zero guy. I don't know. I go buy
Speaker 2: a lot of names. People call me. Some people call
Speaker 2: me the UFO guy, which is weird because I don't
Speaker 2: really talk about aliens or UFOs that much. But I
Speaker 2: guess it just comes with the territory. So I became
Speaker 2: like e famous, I guess you could say from researching
Speaker 2: the MH three seven zero videos. Some very controversial videos
Speaker 2: that are out there that date back to twenty fourteen
Speaker 2: after Malaysian Airlines Flight three seven zero disappeared on March seventh,
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. These videos began to re emerge or emerge
Speaker 2: for the first time around May nineteenth of twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: but we just ignored them for like nine ten years basically,
Speaker 2: and then even when I started to promote them and
Speaker 2: investigate them, there was so much controversy over them, and
Speaker 2: people say, oh, these people are you know, disinfo or
Speaker 2: FEDS attacking you or what have you. But I think
Speaker 2: a lot of it's really just like we are just
Speaker 2: now as a species starting to wake up to that
Speaker 2: type of technology, that type of physics, that type of
Speaker 2: science being able to be real the same way where
Speaker 2: like cavemen would have struggled with like understanding why we
Speaker 2: have like an iphi, Like how can this be a
Speaker 2: thing that's real? You know, that wouldn't be something they
Speaker 2: could understand either. So I've been investigating. I started by
Speaker 2: investigating the plane and realizing that like those videos are
Speaker 2: real and there is a conspiracy around the missing plane,
Speaker 2: and then took it in another direction where I said, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: I mean something this incredible, like how is this scientifically possible?
Speaker 2: How is this physically possible? And to me that was
Speaker 2: the biggest revelation, which was finding out that the science
Speaker 2: to support it, like this idea of zero point energy
Speaker 2: basically is out there. The papers have been written. It
Speaker 2: goes back you know, maybe seventy eighty one hundred years,
Speaker 2: maybe all the way back to Tesla essentially, And that's
Speaker 2: where this journey has taken me today, is trying to
Speaker 2: understand that physics zero point energy and realizing that it
Speaker 2: all leads back to plasma and nukes actually, which means
Speaker 2: it leads back to fusion as well. So the craziest
Speaker 2: part is it all kind of comes full circle. Where
Speaker 2: I went from an area of like, Okay, this is
Speaker 2: impossib like this would require magical new physics to oh, no,
Speaker 2: that the physics is actually all out there, but you
Speaker 2: know it's been suppressed, and then realizing like, no, the
Speaker 2: physics isn't just out there, but like literally all the
Speaker 2: Department of Energy labs are like literally researching this, and
Speaker 2: I'm going, like, we just not we don't pay attention
Speaker 2: to what they're doing. Like that's that seems to be
Speaker 2: the answer. So that's a long winded answer to who
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 4: Nice, Well, that's a good explanation.
Speaker 8: I think I think if if people knew more about
Speaker 8: the Department of Energy, we wouldn't be in this situation.
Speaker 8: Is there a quick way that you can describe to
Speaker 8: people all the roles that Department of Energy has in
Speaker 8: this sort of development.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the most educational thing people should learn
Speaker 2: is how the research functions. So you have Aerospace Corporation
Speaker 2: and you have Battel Institute, uh and Battil Bettel Sorry,
Speaker 2: Bettel Institute is the ones that's like the contractor for
Speaker 2: all the labs, so they actually manage all the labs
Speaker 2: like eleven billion dollars per year, but that's all just
Speaker 2: literal money. They don't have any commercial clients, so it's
Speaker 2: basically our tax dollars, right. But because it's being filtered
Speaker 2: through this third party management company where all the labs
Speaker 2: would be managed, my guess is they use that to
Speaker 2: shield things from fouer requests because now it's not government anymore.
Speaker 2: So that's the first thing people need to know. Then
Speaker 2: Aerospace Corporation they also get like a billion dollars every
Speaker 2: year from the government. Not they're like federal non for
Speaker 2: profits is what they call them. And these are the
Speaker 2: people that actually outsource these scientists So if you're an engineer,
Speaker 2: what have you like? Okay, you get a contract, it
Speaker 2: goes through Aerospace Corporation, but it might be for like
Speaker 2: a DOE lab to work on this plasma blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So that's the important thing to understand is how's the
Speaker 2: funding work for the DOE. I think the other thing
Speaker 2: that people understand that's important in this context is more
Speaker 2: I would say speculative, which is why is the DOE
Speaker 2: connected to the UFO topic? Like everybody says, oh, the
Speaker 2: doees the top dog and the Q clearance of what
Speaker 2: have you? Well, it's because of the energy sources. Like
Speaker 2: whatever is the UFOs flying around with, it's got to
Speaker 2: be the energy source. So when we are looking for
Speaker 2: the answers to what's what is these what are these UFOs?
Speaker 2: How are they flying around? How they floating freely? How
Speaker 2: are they teleporting? Which you're probably looking at what the
Speaker 2: DOE is doing because they're apparently the ones who are
Speaker 2: gatekeeping it. So that's where I think it leads back
Speaker 2: to all what are they studying in all those labs?
Speaker 2: Fusion plasma stabilization, like all these concepts that if you
Speaker 2: take them to their extreme and what you could do
Speaker 2: you come up with a plasma orb that.
Speaker 4: Can like fly around nice.
Speaker 6: That was actually something I did want to get into.
Speaker 6: Uh honestly, I just didn't even know where to start.
Speaker 6: I mean, I know you had gone over one thing
Speaker 6: I thought was awesome about the Cosmic Summit.
Speaker 4: You went over Penans. Now.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's something that you want to
Speaker 6: like really get into or if that's something you have
Speaker 6: to cover to get into orbs. But I do know
Speaker 6: that's something you've even been going into recently too. Is
Speaker 6: the whole orb thing and what you're you know, what
Speaker 6: is your idea of those orbs?
Speaker 4: Like what are they doing? And how are they even there? With?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want me to share video real quick?
Speaker 4: We yeah, yeah, you can, yeah share what you.
Speaker 2: Want to pull up this one because this is the
Speaker 2: Here's Gorgon's stair Wider Emotion imagery video, which is from
Speaker 2: a drone from above and these orbs. You know, this
Speaker 2: isn't a situation where like I came up with an
Speaker 2: idea of what the orbs were. It was like, just
Speaker 2: follow the science and figure out where the science leads,
Speaker 2: and where the science led was a compact fusion reactor.
Speaker 2: It's like when you look up fusion reactors, you find
Speaker 2: it's just all about manipulating plasma. And these orbs are
Speaker 2: a plasma ball that's being contained by a magnetic field.
Speaker 2: It's not a solid thing around it. You can't really
Speaker 2: tell from this particular video. Thankfully, we have a second
Speaker 2: video that tells us more detail about the orbs. If
Speaker 2: this tells us that we got, you know, three things
Speaker 2: perfectly aligned in a triangle formation, and plasma can explain
Speaker 2: that too, because it's the magnetic fields that are causing
Speaker 2: it to link up in that perfect triangle. Which that
Speaker 2: was one of the things I thought was just totally wild,
Speaker 2: is that we have seen orbs and triangle formations get
Speaker 2: talked about in the UFO community over like the last
Speaker 2: ten years or so. It's gotten kind of popular. Let
Speaker 2: me switch and show the other video real quick.
Speaker 4: Do those orbs switch the way the directions at some
Speaker 4: point too? Looks like these.
Speaker 2: Spinal tames, Like it's really hard to tell because they're
Speaker 2: spinning three hundred and sixty degrees around the plane. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and once they lock in because you can use something
Speaker 2: called magnetic inversion. Magnetic inversion means that like you have
Speaker 2: a positive and minus charge that are somewhat separated. And
Speaker 2: if you take two positive and minus charges that are
Speaker 2: separated like that and bring them close, they kind of
Speaker 2: get to an equilibrium point where they don't come together anymore,
Speaker 2: but they don't pull apart anymore. So check out magnet
Speaker 2: inversion if that's intrigues you. The real giveaway here, like,
Speaker 2: first of all, when you're looking at this, you look
Speaker 2: at these orbs here, that's not a solid structure around
Speaker 2: the orb How do we know? Because in a second
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to basically see through them, like
Speaker 2: they become partially transparent and see that, So it's like, wait,
Speaker 2: that means it's not a solid thing. And this is
Speaker 2: how early on I was able to deduce that must
Speaker 2: be a plasma field, like a plasma structure around something
Speaker 2: inside that we can't see. But the other giveaways Look
Speaker 2: at those dark lines. Can you guys see those dark
Speaker 2: lines like behind the orbs? Actually turns out if you
Speaker 2: look at a different color version of this, which I'll
Speaker 2: show here in just a second, those dark lines are
Speaker 2: clearly in front of the orbs. Like even right here,
Speaker 2: you can pretty much tell these dark lines or not
Speaker 2: even behind the orbs anymore. I'm just kind of pausing
Speaker 2: it and went slow. The dark lines are actually in
Speaker 2: front of the orbs, and look at the heat signatures
Speaker 2: spin around like that, and just I mean, look at
Speaker 2: the heat signature. That's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I can even imagine someone investing that, let alone, like
Speaker 2: making all these frames. You can see at distort a
Speaker 2: little bit there too, So it's not something that's like
Speaker 2: a solid structure like the airplane. It's something that's a
Speaker 2: little bit more amorphous. But the reason why that you
Speaker 2: see the dark lines in front of it. Let me
Speaker 2: show you one last version which will make that part clear,
Speaker 2: is because when you look into fusion, there's all these
Speaker 2: instabilities and all these different instabilities. Uh wait that cancel.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, there we go. We're gonna pull that up.
Speaker 2: All these different instabilities basically boil down to when we
Speaker 2: tried to do fusion. It always tries to escape, and
Speaker 2: when it's escaping confinement, it's damaging the thing that's confining it. Usually,
Speaker 2: like these reactors have superconducting magnets and they have all
Speaker 2: this stuff to protect it from radiation and damage, but
Speaker 2: ultimately that's the reason why we can't keep these fusion
Speaker 2: reactors running for a long time. So they figured out
Speaker 2: something really smart, which was don't try to force it
Speaker 2: to be confined into a sphere. Let it leak out.
Speaker 2: Let it leak out in controlled way, and when you
Speaker 2: do that, then you can use it as propulsion. So
Speaker 2: in this you can clearly see those dark lines are
Speaker 2: in front of the orbs like leading them. Pretty much.
Speaker 2: What this means is there's actually not that many possible
Speaker 2: effusion configurations for this. These have to be sphere maas.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're literally we're looking at a sphere, so
Speaker 2: that must be a plasma that's being confined in by
Speaker 2: a spherical magnetic fields. And one of the only ways
Speaker 2: that only configurations for this is something called field reverse configuration.
Speaker 2: A field reverse configuration creates an axial ploidal magnetic field,
Speaker 2: just like the Earth. And with the Earth, how does
Speaker 2: the Earth work? We at we have a north and
Speaker 2: a south pole. If you imagine like a neutron star.
Speaker 2: These neutron stars have jets shooting out of either end
Speaker 2: of them, like what they call I don't know what
Speaker 2: the name of it is, some you know, death beam
Speaker 2: or they say, they're like, oh, if that beam is
Speaker 2: facing us, it'll like instantly wipe us out. This is
Speaker 2: what they're talking about, because these plasma balls are spitting
Speaker 2: out material or X rays you know, out of either
Speaker 2: end of it, and they just realize like, oh, we
Speaker 2: can use that as propulsion. So that's what's going on
Speaker 2: with with the orbs at a high level.
Speaker 8: Well, that brings up something interesting. So these precursor sort
Speaker 8: of shadows, right, would that be an indication of some
Speaker 8: sort of cavitation containment because I think a lot of
Speaker 8: this comes down to this cavitation idea that we see
Speaker 8: that alternative energy researchers have been working on for years,
Speaker 8: that it keeps coming up over and over again. Is
Speaker 8: this cavitation force field or cavitation force.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think we're talking about like an implosive
Speaker 2: force basically. I think that theme comes up a lot
Speaker 2: in these videos. First of all, with the zapp of
Speaker 2: the plane disappearing, which I've come to conclude must be
Speaker 2: some form of wormhole. Wormhole is like a conceptual view
Speaker 2: of how we would connect two points in space and time.
Speaker 2: It's not really a technical how do you do this
Speaker 2: kind of thing? It's more of a how do you
Speaker 2: think about the universe and doing something like that, and cavitation,
Speaker 2: So we also when that plane disappears, if that was
Speaker 2: an explosion, I would expect this white hot explosion on
Speaker 2: the thermal camera and then the gorgon stair. Why Amy,
Speaker 2: it's like this flash for just one like second, So
Speaker 2: photons are being released, but they're not hot photons because
Speaker 2: they're not hot in the other video. This is like
Speaker 2: another one of the biggest giveaways. That means that's some
Speaker 2: kind of endothermic reaction. It's like a monopole one half
Speaker 2: of a magnet. It's like one end of a magnet.
Speaker 2: It's blipping out and that must be blipping back in
Speaker 2: somewhere else. That's what it seems to represent from the
Speaker 2: color and the heat signatures that we're seeing on the
Speaker 2: videos and cavitation. This idea of implosive effect. It's almost
Speaker 2: like the difference between fission and fusion. So we have
Speaker 2: like an a bomb, which is like a release of
Speaker 2: explosion of you know, uh energy, But from a fusion perspective,
Speaker 2: is that the opposite, Like what would a fusion a
Speaker 2: pure fusion bomb actually look like. This is what I
Speaker 2: would challenge people because when I first had this idea
Speaker 2: of like, are we looking at like a pure fusion
Speaker 2: bomb with no fission, no neutrons being released as heat?
Speaker 2: Is that why it's like purely dark in that thermal
Speaker 2: One of the things I started researching was the history
Speaker 2: of it, Like, Okay, well, what's the history of the
Speaker 2: H bomb? Well, the H bomb was figured out in
Speaker 2: the sixties, but it was never dropped, at least not
Speaker 2: publicly publicly. There was never an H bomb that was
Speaker 2: set off, and nuclear whatever it is anti pro a
Speaker 2: prohibition or whatever, it was, like, we basically stopped making
Speaker 2: nukes and what have you. So I wonder if there
Speaker 2: is this connection of cavitation and implosive effect that we
Speaker 2: figured out from fusion bombs and we never showed what
Speaker 2: they do, and everybody in their mind is just thought, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: thermal nuclear bomb is just like a bigger nuke. That
Speaker 2: must be what it is. But what if it's not that.
Speaker 2: What if it's actually just like straight up so much
Speaker 2: electromagnetic energy in a region of space time and a
Speaker 2: condensed region of space time that it actually just detaches
Speaker 2: that region from space time, like just attaches it. That
Speaker 2: would actually make kind of a lot of sense in
Speaker 2: terms of like when and how they would have branched
Speaker 2: this technology. It would have been in the sixth these
Speaker 2: when they figured out fusion and they figure out this
Speaker 2: whole other aspect of manipulating space time from fusion bombs,
Speaker 2: and then they would have had to classify inertial confinement
Speaker 2: fusion research, which is also potentially linked to cavitation, because
Speaker 2: this idea of like this super powerful compressive pressure force,
Speaker 2: you know, going inward on your object, and so basically
Speaker 2: maybe that you know, cavitation, compression, fusion, all of this
Speaker 2: was suppressed while they were trying to figure out H
Speaker 2: bombs and how to make the waves like hit these
Speaker 2: H bombs and to make you know, these these massive effects,
Speaker 2: they figured out something completely different.
Speaker 8: Potentially it would be like a different form of mathematics. Right,
Speaker 8: we're operating on one form of mathematics, they're operating on
Speaker 8: a completely different form. And so this is where that
Speaker 8: disconnect really starts to line up.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't take it that far personally. I
Speaker 2: think that what I've found is that you don't need
Speaker 2: new math or physics to actually figure this out. That's
Speaker 2: part of the rub too, so we don't have to
Speaker 2: have some Oh, here's the hit in the hidden physics,
Speaker 2: here's the hidden math. It's actually just conceptual perspective change,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and it's a simple one too. It's
Speaker 2: we go from thinking that we're in an empty vacuum
Speaker 2: to realizing we're in a medium, we're in a fish tank,
Speaker 2: and we do kind of think that what we think
Speaker 2: of it as like the air around us, But we
Speaker 2: don't really think about the air around us. We don't
Speaker 2: really think, you know, we just assume I were chilling.
Speaker 2: Then this bubble here, it seems like nothing, but that's
Speaker 2: also true of empty space. Empty space also isn't nothing.
Speaker 2: It's also not nothing. And this conceptual viewpoint change changes
Speaker 2: everything because what it means then is the space the
Speaker 2: distance between here and the moon or here in anywhere
Speaker 2: is the zero point energy. That is a substance. So
Speaker 2: if you remove that substance, what happens, Oh, you shrink
Speaker 2: the distance between here and there. Potentially. Now, this conceptual
Speaker 2: viewpoint helps understand how Einstein was right about general relativity.
Speaker 2: Einstein was right. Actually all the equations about like warp
Speaker 2: drives and wormholes, they come from Einstein's general relativity. It's
Speaker 2: a big misconception that people think that like Einstein, thought
Speaker 2: space was empty, you know. For for Einstein was the
Speaker 2: one that said there would be gravitational waves and we
Speaker 2: found them, and that shows that space time is some
Speaker 2: kind of medium. It's not just some fixed thing that
Speaker 2: you know, is empty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and asked, And I had a question.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 3: When I first seen that video, I thought that was
Speaker 3: pretty fascinating. But the past few years I've seen some
Speaker 3: people that posting on Reddit and they were going through
Speaker 3: and they were editors and looking at this stuff I
Speaker 3: didn't know. I wanted to get your comments on the
Speaker 3: people that claimed that this is you know, edited. And
Speaker 3: one of the things that one of the videos I seen,
Speaker 3: they put side by side a video from this nineteen
Speaker 3: nineties video game Killing Time when this portal opens up
Speaker 3: and the guy that you know stealed the frame and
Speaker 3: put him side by side. I mean they look almost identical,
Speaker 3: if I'm just being honest. But I've not heard anybody
Speaker 3: rebuttle it or anything like that. I just want to
Speaker 3: know what your thoughts.
Speaker 4: Were on it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean feuded it a lot of times.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. I was surprised that that
Speaker 2: actually caught on as well as it did. When you
Speaker 2: see the debunks, usually this is like a magician's trick.
Speaker 2: What they do is they edit it and then they
Speaker 2: hide the parts that don't match, and they show you
Speaker 2: like one edge, they go, oh, look, it's a perfect match,
Speaker 2: like after I've changed it, after I've recolored it, after
Speaker 2: I've shown you the part I don't show you, but
Speaker 2: they don't say that part. They just say it's a
Speaker 2: perfect match. Oh, you forgot the five steps before that.
Speaker 2: And so usually what I do, like the easiest way
Speaker 2: to break down and just prove that those people are
Speaker 2: lying to you is I just literally will show you
Speaker 2: like an exact overlay like that's like and they'll never
Speaker 2: show you that. Those debunkers never will, So like pull
Speaker 2: this up if you don't mind, real quick, okay, so
Speaker 2: I can just show this. So, I mean, this is
Speaker 2: an exact overlay of the two frames. And I don't
Speaker 2: want to point out the people that say it's an
Speaker 2: exact match. They're saying that someone took a stock effect
Speaker 2: which is multiple frames and put it into the video.
Speaker 2: But this is the only frame that's even close and
Speaker 2: as you can see here, I can see what they did.
Speaker 2: They found something where the edges on the right are similar,
Speaker 2: but in the middle it's not even close to the same. Now,
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, it is pretty amazing. They found something
Speaker 2: that has a dot that's almost kind of in the
Speaker 2: similar spot here. But again, yeah, this needs to be
Speaker 2: a perfect match. This can't be a partial match. Partial
Speaker 2: match means is not a match. You're telling me that
Speaker 2: someone edited this into the video. It needs to be
Speaker 2: a perfect match, like literally pixel for pixel perfect match.
Speaker 2: Not oh it's pretty close. And again I'm gonna point out,
Speaker 2: I know these videos are real, So what do you
Speaker 2: really want from me if you're gonna make up stuff
Speaker 2: like that, like, oh, it's close enough. No, it's not
Speaker 2: good enough. You can't just stay it's close. In fact, here,
Speaker 2: let me if you pull this up. This is the
Speaker 2: actual full stock effect, not just the one frame, the
Speaker 2: whole stock effect put into the video. That's it. One frame.
Speaker 2: You can see, Yeah, it looks kind of similar if
Speaker 2: you resize it right, but you can see the edges
Speaker 2: don't actually really match. It's just it's close. And then
Speaker 2: after that nothing's even romola. Would you even edit this
Speaker 2: frame to get this to match. I don't know how
Speaker 2: you can see there's like a blast effect and that's
Speaker 2: because this is actually not what the this stock effect here,
Speaker 2: This isn't even CGI. This is photos we found the
Speaker 2: guy that made this. Those are pictures of fire. So
Speaker 2: what you're telling me someone modified pictures of fire photos
Speaker 2: of fire. That's a photo, not a CGI. So like,
Speaker 2: that's how easy it is to just debunk. That's the
Speaker 2: number one debunk. By the way, most people think that
Speaker 2: that stock effect is a perfect match because people on
Speaker 2: YouTube keep repeating the lie that it is when I
Speaker 2: can just show you in five seconds that it's not.
Speaker 2: And so my question would be, if they're willing to
Speaker 2: like lie that boldly, never show you what I just
Speaker 2: showed you, never explain in simple terms like I just did,
Speaker 2: Why are you? Why is anyone listening to those people
Speaker 2: at all? What else are they lying about? In fact too,
Speaker 2: because the people that are making those claims are not
Speaker 2: just like one time de Bunker people. There are people
Speaker 2: that like Mick West, who's the monking literally everything out there,
Speaker 2: and if he's willing to lie so boldly about something
Speaker 2: like that, or the corridor crew who make multiple debunk
Speaker 2: like reaction videos. You know, what else are they willing
Speaker 2: to lie about? I think it's crazy that people think
Speaker 2: that I don't like have credibility when you know, I'm
Speaker 2: happy to discuss this. And do you see those people
Speaker 2: on podcasts answering questions? Never? Never, ever, Mick West will
Speaker 2: never go on a podcast where anyone's going to be
Speaker 2: adversarial towards him ever, because he's afraid.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad, I asked, man, because that's obviously something
Speaker 3: you've been asked a lot, and I just I wouldn't
Speaker 3: a wire, but you had the film at the ready.
Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate that I've got all the debunk stuff ready.
Speaker 2: I mean. The only other thing too, I'll say is
Speaker 2: that the way that I saw it kind of play
Speaker 2: out is like people online just kind of make stuff
Speaker 2: up like oh, this shouldn't look this way or this
Speaker 2: shouldn't look that way, and then they'll like try to
Speaker 2: google something that they'll think that like supports their view,
Speaker 2: but it's kind of out of context because they don't know.
Speaker 4: They don't google it no more.
Speaker 2: Man, they they chat hept or rocket, Hey, groc, what's
Speaker 2: the answer to this? Right? Like, oh, my God. And
Speaker 2: then you know, and Groc is just lyned too now
Speaker 2: at this point because Groc's just reading whatever people saw
Speaker 2: on the internet, which that scares me more than anything.
Speaker 2: So really what I wanted, and this is if you
Speaker 2: go back to my early lifship, but I told people
Speaker 2: like people need to learn to think critically, Like we
Speaker 2: have to think critically about everything. And this is where
Speaker 2: the debunkers are the ones trying to tell you think critically,
Speaker 2: But they're not the ones thinking critically. They're the ones going, oh,
Speaker 2: that's close enough, match. We don't have to think about
Speaker 2: where this plane disappeared into and how that could have
Speaker 2: been possible, and why we never really found anything where
Speaker 2: we were searching, you know. So what I tell people
Speaker 2: to try to like really rationalize how this is real
Speaker 2: to people is say, like, what do you think the
Speaker 2: whole stories if you believe the videos are fake, what
Speaker 2: do you think the story is about who made those videos?
Speaker 2: Because there's nobody that's claiming to be the person that
Speaker 2: made those videos. In fact, one person was claiming for
Speaker 2: like a year and a half and turned out they
Speaker 2: were a huge scammer, and it turned out they were
Speaker 2: like texting with this website owner place and like as
Speaker 2: in them the fake receipts to pretend like they made
Speaker 2: the videos. So I mean, like, who made the videos
Speaker 2: if you think they did? And we're even not even
Speaker 2: if you don't know the exact person, But what's the
Speaker 2: mental profile of the person who faked videos of a
Speaker 2: missing plane within a few days with this looks like
Speaker 2: military footage? And how did they know all of that?
Speaker 2: And why did they waste all this time to do this?
Speaker 2: And how do they know what coordinates to put in
Speaker 2: the plane? And why did they put a satellite designation
Speaker 2: the bottom left that says NROL twenty two, which is
Speaker 2: a real satellite, and why did they know to call
Speaker 2: it NROL twenty two, which nobody I don't think would
Speaker 2: have ever thought to do that. Like these are all
Speaker 2: just a few of the completely inexplicable questions. But the
Speaker 2: big killer, the real nail in the coffin, is Gorgan's stare.
Speaker 2: I mean, once I found out that that was Gorgan's stare,
Speaker 2: whyd their emotion image? Everyone's wondering that first video I
Speaker 2: showed it's actually not video at all. The frame rate's
Speaker 2: too low, it's only six frames per second. Why is
Speaker 2: the screen moving around like this? Why is there a
Speaker 2: mouse cursor that like comes off the screen and is
Speaker 2: moving around on the screen. Because you're looking at someone
Speaker 2: who's on software recording with their mouse and they're recording
Speaker 2: a screen a window like right now, I have a
Speaker 2: bunch of windows up on my screen. They're recording one
Speaker 2: of those windows, and that's why you see the mouse
Speaker 2: come onto the window. And then why does it go
Speaker 2: black at the end. It goes black at the end
Speaker 2: because they close the window and now the screen goes black.
Speaker 2: And that surveillance capability, that whammy was basically brand new,
Speaker 2: that capability we're looking I was almost brand new in
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen when that would have leaked, So those leaks
Speaker 2: wouldn't have just been crazy plasma ORBS teleportation black operation,
Speaker 2: but also revealing our secret drone surveillance capability, which apparently
Speaker 2: is like Google Earth, wherever you have a drone flying overhere,
Speaker 2: you can just you know, I'm wanna do some DVR playback,
Speaker 2: Oh I missed that episode of Teleport the Plane. Let's
Speaker 2: go ahead and pull that back up.
Speaker 8: Well, and the most important part about this debunking is
Speaker 8: that they're focusing on the Messenger. You found these videos,
Speaker 8: it's not like you create them, and we can't find
Speaker 8: the guys who created them. So if they were really
Speaker 8: trying to debunk it, they'd be going after finding who
Speaker 8: posted these videos. And they're not interested.
Speaker 2: So that's the big This is the giveaway. There's so
Speaker 2: many ways to show that the people trying to debunk
Speaker 2: these videos aren't doing it in good faith, but the
Speaker 2: best one is early on too. They have a whole
Speaker 2: debunker subreddit that they banned me from right away because
Speaker 2: they can't have people like actually solving the mystery. They
Speaker 2: would say that, oh, I'm the one hurting the you
Speaker 2: know the case, I'm the one making it so that
Speaker 2: we're never going to get the truth because I'm spreading
Speaker 2: so much disinformation about it. And I'd laugh in those
Speaker 2: people's faces because none of them have been trying to
Speaker 2: solve MH three seven zero. None of them have been
Speaker 2: trying to solve the videos. They've all been trying to
Speaker 2: make it go away. That's all they've been trying to
Speaker 2: do from the beginning. They're trying to make people not
Speaker 2: listen to me. They've been trying to make nobody look
Speaker 2: at those videos, trying to make content related to mhtre
Speaker 2: seven zero in those videos not be seen, deboosted, whatever
Speaker 2: they can do. They want as many people as possible
Speaker 2: think those videos are fake because they need that to happen,
Speaker 2: because that's the only way those videos stay hidden is
Speaker 2: that the moment people start to wake up those videos,
Speaker 2: that's the biggest nightmare of the US government could have
Speaker 2: ever ever imagined. So once again, why are these people
Speaker 2: not trying to solve the case? Why are they attacking me?
Speaker 2: Why are they trying to debunk the videos at all?
Speaker 2: Like anybody there's a good faith researcher, they should just
Speaker 2: be trying to figure out, like who made the videos.
Speaker 2: If I didn't think the videos were real, I'd be
Speaker 2: trying to figure out who made them. I'd be like,
Speaker 2: that's crazy, how could somebody have made this? We need
Speaker 2: to find that person. They're not interested in that though,
Speaker 2: because they know there's nobody that made They.
Speaker 4: Don't want the basics.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 7: I always say, you got to know the basics before
Speaker 7: you even attack anything else. And that's the basics right there.
Speaker 7: Who to Hill made the video in the first place,
Speaker 7: and then let's go from there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like even as me as like a video person podcasting,
Speaker 6: I'd be like, all right, I'm gonna pull apart that
Speaker 6: video because that's why I'm gonna find out if it's
Speaker 6: real or that.
Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't. Yeah, I understand what he get go
Speaker 4: to the source.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing. Even if they come back and
Speaker 2: say like, oh, well, you know what, can you can
Speaker 2: you find the person that leaked them?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: I did. I literally found the person that leaked the videos.
Speaker 2: And that's the whole point is, like, if those videos
Speaker 2: were fake, you should be able to find the person
Speaker 2: that made them, no excuses whatsoever. They're not dead or
Speaker 2: whatever other bs people try to come up with. If
Speaker 2: it was in some eighty year old man making those
Speaker 2: videos in twenty fourteen or something like that, I literally
Speaker 2: found the guy that leaked them because just from looking
Speaker 2: at the videos, that's how you can only do this.
Speaker 2: From real videos, you can tell the intent of the
Speaker 2: person leaking them. You can tell what's going on. You
Speaker 2: can tell that that's a leaked military footage from the
Speaker 2: United States government just from the videos, because we can
Speaker 2: see a General Atomics MQ nine drone with like a
Speaker 2: Northrop Grumming camera on hard point number five underneath the drone,
Speaker 2: Like that information alone proves that to the United States
Speaker 2: government at play. So then it was just a matter
Speaker 2: of like, okay, they must have charged somebody with this.
Speaker 2: Like the first thing I learned was you can't actually
Speaker 2: hide these charges unless we're in martial law. If somebody
Speaker 2: does something like this, you got to charge them publicly. Okay.
Speaker 2: So was anybody charged with like major crimes like you know,
Speaker 2: espionage that maybe it got brushed under the rug or
Speaker 2: something like that, that where we never really heard about it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I found the guy took with like two weeks,
Speaker 2: but there's not that many people, and I just went
Speaker 2: systematically down the list. Once I hit Edward Lynn, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, there, he has found him. Like he's
Speaker 2: in this super secret Navy program. He's got the exact
Speaker 2: right access he would need. He gets charged with espionage,
Speaker 2: but there's his cases shrouded in mystery. They won't say
Speaker 2: what it is that he leaked, but his lawyer is
Speaker 2: going around saying that, oh, it's on the internet. Evidence
Speaker 2: is on the internet. What And then they make him
Speaker 2: take a plea deal. They make him take a plea deal.
Speaker 2: They convince him that what he did was wrong, which
Speaker 2: is probably like, that wasn't aliens, bro, you weren't leaking
Speaker 2: aliens to the world. You were leaking our nuclear secrets
Speaker 2: to the world. Was imagine how the conversation went. And
Speaker 2: then he goes, oh, I'm sorry, I'm hurt. My spirit
Speaker 2: is broken. That's almost a direct quote, by the way,
Speaker 2: and takes a plea deal so they get rid of
Speaker 2: all the espionage chargers. They're like, okay, you took a
Speaker 2: plea deal. We're just going to get you with classified
Speaker 2: you know, information or whatever. He's like, great, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get a slap on the wrist. Right nine years nine
Speaker 2: years for dissemination of classified information. That's crazy. That's a
Speaker 2: super long time. So you'd think, okay, he appeals. We
Speaker 2: look at his appeal. His appeal, Actually, the penal codes
Speaker 2: are consistent with video evidence being what he leaked. I mean,
Speaker 2: it could be other stuff because the penal codes are
Speaker 2: multiple things, but you know, still in the realm. He
Speaker 2: argued that he got like way too much time, and
Speaker 2: so in response, the military said, noe, what he leaked
Speaker 2: was super serious, and they had people testify to the
Speaker 2: judge why it was so serious that actually needed someone
Speaker 2: to Why would you need someone to testify to the
Speaker 2: judge about why would he was leaked with so serious?
Speaker 2: Shouldn't it just be obvious?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Was it nuclear codes?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: What was it? Oh? Because it's some crazy videos of
Speaker 2: orbs spinning around a plane. And then someone needs to
Speaker 2: be someone's got to explain that to the judge because
Speaker 2: it can't be explained otherwise, right, Like why is this
Speaker 2: guy not a hero? For example? He's leaking like a
Speaker 2: illegal operation to the world. Oh, because it's a classified
Speaker 2: official operation, you know. So what was the last thing
Speaker 2: I was gonna say?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 2: But yeah, So he's the guy that had to have
Speaker 2: leaked the videos. And he changed his name after I
Speaker 2: start figure after I figured this out. We didn't find
Speaker 2: this out until like six months ago. But after I
Speaker 2: figured this out, three months later, I'm saying his name
Speaker 2: on podcast. He legally changes his name. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: find the guy, like I I'm trying to find him,
Speaker 2: trying to get in touch with him because like maybe
Speaker 2: he'll talk to me. I don't know what the circumstances were,
Speaker 2: but now I know the circumstances. Like his sister's a
Speaker 2: lawyer in Homeland Security. His brother in law is Sean Naylor,
Speaker 2: who's a like National Security MSM, mainstream media like spook guy,
Speaker 2: and I'm going, holy shit, now I see what's going on. Like,
Speaker 2: nobody knows what Edward Lynn leaked. His family might not know,
Speaker 2: his friends probably don't know. I talked to somebody that
Speaker 2: was in his unit. They didn't know. They thought it
Speaker 2: was like prostitutes. I'm like, dude, does that make sense?
Speaker 2: He was telling prostitutes something? They put him in prison
Speaker 2: for nine years. He literally triggered a security alert to
Speaker 2: the Joint Chiefs of Staff. What he leaked did that
Speaker 2: wasn't prostitutes, bro, that is actual video of something, right,
Speaker 2: and the VPU tube two person told me this isn't
Speaker 2: even I think in any of the media releases that
Speaker 2: when Edward Lynn got arrested they rolled him up with
Speaker 2: flash drives as well. Now that's hugely important because it
Speaker 2: implies that he was pulling data and running away with it,
Speaker 2: and that would explain how those videos got on the
Speaker 2: internet too, as he pulled him from a skiff. So oh,
Speaker 2: and last thing I'll say is that his sister won't talk.
Speaker 2: The brother in law won't talk. I can't get him
Speaker 2: to talk. I've called his business multiple times, can't get
Speaker 2: him on the phone. His lawyer tried to get his lawyer.
Speaker 2: I have his lawyer's phone number. He disconnected his phone number,
Speaker 2: turned his phone off, would never return to any phone calls.
Speaker 2: And not like I'm being psycho. I'm just asking like, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about your your gut,
Speaker 2: you know, your your client in his case, especially because
Speaker 2: like I have some pretty compelling like I'm basically saying,
Speaker 2: he's a hero in my opinion, he's leaking like free energy,
Speaker 2: plasma orb technology, black operation. From a public perspective, he
Speaker 2: seems like you should be a hero. But I think
Speaker 2: that all the baggage that comes along with it, and
Speaker 2: he knows that like this isn't the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that you come out and you become a hero, Like
Speaker 2: they try to bury you if you come out probably
Speaker 2: with something like this. Right. So that's Edward Lynne story.
Speaker 8: That's incredible. So let's get into some of the patents.
Speaker 8: This is some of the new stuff that that you've
Speaker 8: been talking about. What kind of patents have you found
Speaker 8: tangential to this technology?
Speaker 2: So patent wise, I mean I think that the scientific
Speaker 2: papers are better, but the patents. Think about the patents,
Speaker 2: A lot of them are just like hard to read,
Speaker 2: hard to understand. They make them that way intentionally, and
Speaker 2: from watching the engineers too, even the engineers know that
Speaker 2: like the patent office won't approve any thing that touches
Speaker 2: on like violating the first or second law of thermodynamics.
Speaker 2: So they weren't everything in like overly complex ways intentionally actually,
Speaker 2: which she goes to show how messed up the system is.
Speaker 2: But the pattern that first caught my eye was a
Speaker 2: coherent matterwave being patent by Charles Chase of lockeed Martin.
Speaker 2: And I never even really understood it that well, but
Speaker 2: from reading it, it seemed like the kind of thing
Speaker 2: where like you're making matter like phase through solid objects,
Speaker 2: and you're like, wait, okay, well that seems relevant if
Speaker 2: somehow we figured out teleportation, you know. So and Bob
Speaker 2: Greenier had been talking about that patent for a while too,
Speaker 2: so I had always had my eye on that patent,
Speaker 2: and then it wasn't until a few weeks ago when
Speaker 2: I found and I saw another video by Charles Chase,
Speaker 2: the guy that was the patent holder, and he was
Speaker 2: talking about the coherent matterwave beam, and he finally explains
Speaker 2: what it can do, and he says, Oh, it's a
Speaker 2: million times more powerful than a laser, and I just
Speaker 2: my eyes opened up, because lasers have gotten extremely powerful
Speaker 2: ado second lasers, I think it's like ten to the
Speaker 2: minus eighteen. Basically, the faster you can pulse something, the
Speaker 2: more energy density you can fit into a little region.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we need for space time manipulation,
Speaker 2: according to the math and to the physics. So if
Speaker 2: you can make something that's a million times more powerful
Speaker 2: than that, that's another six zeros. I'm going this has
Speaker 2: got to be able to manipulate space time like and
Speaker 2: then the other things. What else can it do? It
Speaker 2: can also do atomic scale manufacturing. And now I'm going, wait,
Speaker 2: are you talking about Star Trek replicators? Well, yeah, it
Speaker 2: turns out this Charles Chase guy just did an interview
Speaker 2: two days ago and he literally says the word replicator,
Speaker 2: says that's what he was doing with the coherent matterway,
Speaker 2: but that's what he's working on right now. And then
Speaker 2: the last thing he says is transporting matter at a distance,
Speaker 2: which I think is a head nod to teleportation. So
Speaker 2: that's my favorite pattern, and that's my favorite guy, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, looked into Charles Chase, top zero point
Speaker 2: one percent of Lockheed Martin Engineers, he got Fellow designation,
Speaker 2: and he's the guy that convinced the cxos of Lockheed Martin,
Speaker 2: the top people of Lockheed Martin, to go all in
Speaker 2: on this compact fusion reactor idea like a decade ago,
Speaker 2: and on his resume says it was successful and it's
Speaker 2: breathing on its own direct quote on his resume from
Speaker 2: the guy who invented it, was the guy who convinced
Speaker 2: the cxos to do it, and that project went dark
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen and no one knows what happened to
Speaker 2: it since so I'm going guys like literally, Congress should
Speaker 2: be like compelling Charles Chase to testify, because if anyone
Speaker 2: wants to know where the super magic technology is, like,
Speaker 2: there's your smoking gun.
Speaker 8: Right, that's kind of the purpose.
Speaker 10: Oh go ahead, No, just real quickly, question my weald's
Speaker 10: the the actual coherent matter wave?
Speaker 12: Does that touch upon the Hutchinson effect?
Speaker 2: It could? I think that he was asked, I think
Speaker 2: about Hutchinson, but the coherent matterwave beam is essentially taking it.
Speaker 2: So with a laser, you take all that, you make
Speaker 2: sure all the wavelengths of light are in the same phase.
Speaker 2: So think of it as like the same color, right,
Speaker 2: all the same exact color. That's why laser is one
Speaker 2: single color. And then you just overlap them on top
Speaker 2: of each other. And when you overlap those waves, they amplify.
Speaker 2: That's why a laser is like stimulated amplification, light amplifications stimulated.
Speaker 2: I always forget the exact acronym. But with a matterwave,
Speaker 2: you're essentially doing the same thing. You're saying. Okay, now,
Speaker 2: matter itself is a wave. So you think of an
Speaker 2: atom or a cup, and we look at it and
Speaker 2: we think of the solid object. But if you really
Speaker 2: boil it down, this is a complex series of waves.
Speaker 5: What this is.
Speaker 2: So if we can actually isolate our matter waves and
Speaker 2: the way they do this is a Bose Einstein content. Say,
Speaker 2: then we can eject the matter all out at the
Speaker 2: same wavelength, the same way we do with the light
Speaker 2: with the laser. We can eject the light out of
Speaker 2: the photons at the same wavelength. We can do the
Speaker 2: same thing with matter. Then you can create a matter
Speaker 2: wave beam. But to answer your question, is it connected
Speaker 2: to the Hutchinson and stuff. Yeah, absolutely, and Thomas Townson
Speaker 2: Brown and really a lot of the engineers and scientists
Speaker 2: that you've heard in the lower around free energy and
Speaker 2: gravity manipulation. It's all connected by a common thread of
Speaker 2: science for sure.
Speaker 10: Yeah, because it would play upon the whole fusion thing
Speaker 10: that you were speaking about earlier. And then I guess
Speaker 10: a sense it would be analogous to switching out photons
Speaker 10: for matter, like they're both packets of energy, it's just
Speaker 10: the density, right, would that be.
Speaker 2: Correct to say mass is energy? Matter is energy? So
Speaker 2: that's one of the very really important things. So I
Speaker 2: think it was a Ningly presentation. She's one of these
Speaker 2: anti gravity researchers from the nineties that saw ybco or
Speaker 2: why cbo I always get the acronymic sed up, but
Speaker 2: these superconductors. It was her and her presentation where she
Speaker 2: points out E equals MC squared means that matter is
Speaker 2: equal to energy. Now, that seems like a very basic thing,
Speaker 2: but it's so fundamental and so important because if we
Speaker 2: are now saying that we can manipulate gravity through mass
Speaker 2: like a planet, well, now if I convert that mass
Speaker 2: into energy. I should be able to calculate how much
Speaker 2: energy I need to manipulate space time as well. And
Speaker 2: so's that's super important because now we're saying, Okay, if
Speaker 2: I'm going to manipulate the space time with energy, now
Speaker 2: I can actually do the calculations. Now I can figure
Speaker 2: out theoretical what I would need. And this is what
Speaker 2: scientists did. They did that and they found, oh, well,
Speaker 2: to manipulate you know, space time significant, we need like
Speaker 2: this Jupiter size amount of mass energy and so they
Speaker 2: will call it mass energy. But then they also figured
Speaker 2: it out, Okay, we start doing the math, we start
Speaker 2: finding little tricks that we can do, Like you know,
Speaker 2: spin is one of the things they can do. They
Speaker 2: call it a rotating wormhole. One of the other things
Speaker 2: they can do is they can make flat faced wormholes.
Speaker 2: And then these things that reduce the energy requirements significantly.
Speaker 2: So there are ways they found that even around the
Speaker 2: challenges that they had.
Speaker 12: And I guess me and just to go ahead.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 2: One other thing that I just wanted to this is
Speaker 2: kind of tangential or related to that, was that when
Speaker 2: it comes to waves as well, this idea of fusion,
Speaker 2: so We think of fusion as like particles forcing the
Speaker 2: particles to come together, and they want to repel each other,
Speaker 2: so they get to this point and we can't get
Speaker 2: them to come any closer, the coul On barrier, we
Speaker 2: call it. But if particles are just waves, they're not
Speaker 2: actually particles anymore. Then really we're combining waves when we're
Speaker 2: doing fusion, combining the waves together and we make a
Speaker 2: new wave from it. That would be, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: a more intuitive way of thinking about fusion. We just
Speaker 2: don't think about that because we think of everything as particles.
Speaker 2: Charles Chase actually touches on this subject and he says,
Speaker 2: you know, the matter wave being can create new elements,
Speaker 2: like literally even super heavy elements that we wouldn't think
Speaker 2: we could create naturally, but we can artificially create them
Speaker 2: and they become stable as well. So there may be
Speaker 2: this connection between the coherent matter wave being in fusion.
Speaker 2: And when I've see some like coherent matterway be and
Speaker 2: hear that explanation myself, I go, obviously they must have
Speaker 2: figured out fusion. You can't figured out a coherent matter
Speaker 2: wave of being without have already first figured it out fusion, right.
Speaker 12: So yeah, and so kind of just going based on
Speaker 12: building on what you said.
Speaker 10: In my mind, I'm relating it to biological systems, and
Speaker 10: there are points when you have a wave that's coming
Speaker 10: from both ends and they meet in the center and
Speaker 10: then they kind of go back out. But that center
Speaker 10: point is that zero point node, and it almost I
Speaker 10: almost wonder if some of these orbs wormholes is that
Speaker 10: center point node. And the reason I say that is
Speaker 10: because you see it kind of stand still and it
Speaker 10: is the actual point of manipulation. And when you think
Speaker 10: about DNA, you see this entire coding region, but it's
Speaker 10: in specific areas where you have a palindrome and repeating area,
Speaker 10: and it is the point where you calulate the entire genome.
Speaker 10: It is the site where viruses inject themselves to where
Speaker 10: you can manipulate the.
Speaker 12: Coding region going in and out.
Speaker 10: And so when you bring in the wormhole thing, and
Speaker 10: then you think about gravitational in as waves to me,
Speaker 10: and it probably is completely incorrect that I think of
Speaker 10: it in terms of zero point notes that they are
Speaker 10: points of manipulation for time space or electromagnetic fields or
Speaker 10: anything like that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the big thing bring up is
Speaker 2: scale in variants, scale in variance, things that are very
Speaker 2: small can be very large as well. So then I
Speaker 2: guess the question is that the smallest possible scales, what
Speaker 2: does the universe look like? If I had to guess,
Speaker 2: I'd guess it probably looks like what it looks like
Speaker 2: the very small large scales as well. And so that
Speaker 2: also applies to biology. Probably. I think all this physics
Speaker 2: absolutely applies to biology. It must, and what you'll find
Speaker 2: when you start to dig into these engineers and scientists
Speaker 2: and physicists, a lot of them make that connection. Some
Speaker 2: of them are more leap into it more than others do,
Speaker 2: but they all realize that, you know, where's the energy
Speaker 2: coming from, where's consciousness coming from? Is there a connection
Speaker 2: between quantum entanglement and how our minds work? And I
Speaker 2: agree on that as well. When it comes to zero
Speaker 2: point nodes and the planes and the orbs, absolutely, that's
Speaker 2: definitely in play in these videos, like the way those
Speaker 2: orbs are stabilized where they don't seem to like they
Speaker 2: don't dissipate, like if a lightning were to strike, it's
Speaker 2: going to dissipate, right, But these are like lightning balls
Speaker 2: that are just floating around, almost like I made a
Speaker 2: vortex in my pool and the vortex is just going
Speaker 2: on forever. And that configuration implies you've created this zero
Speaker 2: point in space time. Potentially, then that's how they're able
Speaker 2: to create fusion and cause this propulsion and be stable.
Speaker 2: That you've created this zero point like longitudinal wave through
Speaker 2: the ether that's like invisible to us, is how I
Speaker 2: would think of it. With respect to the plane itself.
Speaker 2: The zero point is around the plane. Those orbs in
Speaker 2: a perfect triangle formation when they're using magnetic inversion to
Speaker 2: get locked into place like that where they don't come
Speaker 2: in or out any further. There's a zero point right
Speaker 2: in the middle where all the magnetic fields cancel each
Speaker 2: other out. Means there's no magnetic field there. So how
Speaker 2: do I know this is teleportation? You wouldn't go through
Speaker 2: all that effort if you were just annihilating the plane.
Speaker 2: You would just be like shoot it with a missile. Like.
Speaker 2: The reason why you're doing this complex dance with the
Speaker 2: zero point right in the middle of the plane is
Speaker 2: because that's a wormhole. You're like detaching everything else around it,
Speaker 2: and when the orbs come together, they're coming together right
Speaker 2: before the plane disappears, also in a perfect geometric sequence
Speaker 2: as well, to your point, because they're maintaining that zero point,
Speaker 2: they're like pinching and squeezing the plane, but not squeezing
Speaker 2: it through our three dimensional space, squeezing it through the
Speaker 2: fourth dimension right like down, if you would want to
Speaker 2: think of it like that, And they're saying, Okay, you're
Speaker 2: getting squeezed poop, and then it's going to pop out
Speaker 2: back over here somewhere else.
Speaker 10: This all kind of spurred was because when you showed
Speaker 10: the images, if you and and maybe you have when
Speaker 10: you look at conception when the sperm has penetrated into
Speaker 10: the zone of pellucid of the egg and you see
Speaker 10: that explosion of six hundred one thousand ions, it looks
Speaker 10: almost identical. And you do have a wormhole being created
Speaker 10: when you trap matter and when you trap matter and
Speaker 10: energy into matter during conception. And this is not a
Speaker 10: debate or anything like that. It's proven IVF. This is
Speaker 10: the flash that they look for before implantation, and you're
Speaker 10: charge fifty thousand for it. So it just looks similar
Speaker 10: to the images you showed right before the plane when
Speaker 10: the plane disappears, and then when you look at conception
Speaker 10: and that explosion of the zone Pellucida.
Speaker 2: So yeah, another fund heality of reaction. Oh, space can
Speaker 2: turn into photons as well, the dynamic Kasmir effect. It's
Speaker 2: fun experiment. No one really talks about it. I like
Speaker 2: talking about the craziest experiments that people can't really explain
Speaker 2: or understand where light light gets produced from manipulating just
Speaker 2: the Kasmir effect. So photons get basically the way they
Speaker 2: explain is the virtual photons get converted to real photons.
Speaker 2: So you mean basically light comes from nowhere? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: light just being pulled from space time itself, like almost
Speaker 2: like you're squeezing the sponge of space time and light
Speaker 2: is coming out of it. That to me is the
Speaker 2: greatest because how do you even explain that without there
Speaker 2: being a zero point energy out there? So I love
Speaker 2: the connection between you know, energy mass and then space
Speaker 2: time and light as well.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 8: I was gonna I was gonna ask you. So there's
Speaker 8: so many scientists out there that glaze this three three
Speaker 8: body problem book, you know, I hear so many of
Speaker 8: them talking about it, and it's like, how how could
Speaker 8: there not be a connection Because they're talking about dimensional
Speaker 8: physics in this three body problem you're talking about flat
Speaker 8: surface you know, wormholes and stuff. This is a dimensional idea, right,
Speaker 8: oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's adding an extra dimension one
Speaker 2: at one extra dimension just one. And I I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, my mind has opened all the possibilities. But
Speaker 2: I personally believe this idea of like there's not like
Speaker 2: aliens coming from the extra dimension. Now, I think you
Speaker 2: can ghost these things like that can actually make sense
Speaker 2: and spirits and like where a consciousness comes from. But
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think of the extra dimension as like you know,
Speaker 2: our bizarro versions are hanging out there or something like that,
Speaker 2: though you know, who knows anything is totally possible. I
Speaker 2: think it's more of like we it's the representation of
Speaker 2: all that mass and energy when you add up everything
Speaker 2: that we see plus the zero point energy, the fabric
Speaker 2: of our universe. When you add that all up, that's
Speaker 2: the ether. That's everything all combined. Like it almost like
Speaker 2: if you were to look at an globe, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: is the snow globe just the objects? No, the snow
Speaker 2: globe is the water in there and everything, And I
Speaker 2: shake it all up like that because when you then
Speaker 2: do that Now you say okay, Now I can do
Speaker 2: equations where I can say the matter me is interacting
Speaker 2: with the space time, which I previously was discounting and
Speaker 2: saying was empty. But now I can say okay, because
Speaker 2: that helps me represent where I am, where is Ashton?
Speaker 2: Am I here in front of this screen? Or am
Speaker 2: I over where you are? Et cetera. And then this
Speaker 2: also opens the door to all these star trek capabilities
Speaker 2: that we've been seeing. And I'm very careful about not
Speaker 2: shooting down the idea of like, you know, spiritual extra
Speaker 2: dimensional aliens or what have you, because honestly, this actually
Speaker 2: opens the door up to more options and to me.
Speaker 2: Then the next question is simply as like, is the
Speaker 2: many world hypothesis true, which would mean that like if
Speaker 2: I were to somehow go back in time break causality,
Speaker 2: is that going to make a new universe and therefore
Speaker 2: there must be infinite new universes everywhere and different paths
Speaker 2: that everybody's taking, Or is it more of this is
Speaker 2: the one and only universe and we're in a deterministic
Speaker 2: timeline and you either can't go back in time, or
Speaker 2: if you do go back in time, you're not changing anything.
Speaker 2: It was just always that way. To me. That's a
Speaker 2: tough question that maybe we can never answer, but that's
Speaker 2: the one that will determine in my opinion, like how
Speaker 2: weird this all gets there? You go some esoteric stuff
Speaker 2: for you guys.
Speaker 6: Look, Uh, one thing I did want to get into.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to kind of get off of where
Speaker 6: we were going. But there was like certain things that
Speaker 6: I've seen you kind of I don't know if you
Speaker 6: mentioned it in your show, but I knew. I saw
Speaker 6: you tweet it, and it quote my attention and actually
Speaker 6: made me think. I think you kind of said you
Speaker 6: had thought that was possible that our government was using
Speaker 6: this technology when we bombed.
Speaker 2: I ran, sorry, but what was the first part there
Speaker 2: about car?
Speaker 6: I saw you make a tweet saying that you thought
Speaker 6: it might have been possible that the way we went
Speaker 6: into Iran and did what we did, came back without
Speaker 6: getting caught or nothing.
Speaker 4: You suspect.
Speaker 2: No, that's I think people are trying to say that.
Speaker 2: I was saying that I don't think we teleported our
Speaker 2: bombers over Iran. I don't think we need to do that, honestly,
Speaker 2: and I think that would be kind of like, why
Speaker 2: do that, because you're just kind of exposing your capabilities
Speaker 2: if you do that. But I do think the angle
Speaker 2: that I was going on is that I think Iran
Speaker 2: was working on trying to get this technology and that
Speaker 2: was just never gonna happen. I think the cover was like, technically,
Speaker 2: the Masad are the ones that killed those nine Iranian
Speaker 2: nuclear scientists. I don't know if you guys knew this,
Speaker 2: but they assassinated nine Iranian nuclear scientists while they were
Speaker 2: sleeping simultaneously, supposing, according to the news articles, using a
Speaker 2: secret weapon. You know, call it whatever you will. To me,
Speaker 2: nukes are like an old thing, like we're not working
Speaker 2: on the the you know, an a bomb we you know,
Speaker 2: a bomb is something we dropped in nineteen forty five,
Speaker 2: that was eighty years ago. If you look at all
Speaker 2: the science around nuclear physics, all really a plasma, manipulating,
Speaker 2: controlling plasma, that's what those Iranian scientists would have been
Speaker 2: working on. In fact, that would mean they were definitely
Speaker 2: understood and working on the idea of zero point energy.
Speaker 2: And that's what the CIA would never have let happen,
Speaker 2: and they would have you know, Masad can probably act
Speaker 2: and do what they want, but they're working in concert
Speaker 2: with the CIA presumably or at least get their blessing.
Speaker 2: And that's the part where I think that's that's what's
Speaker 2: really going on in that seas When we're talking about
Speaker 2: like nukes, we're not scared of, you know, a bombs.
Speaker 2: We're scared someone's gonna make like a black hole super
Speaker 2: weapon that's infinite energy that just wipes out the whole
Speaker 2: planet like instantly, either accidentally or intentionally. So that's my
Speaker 2: take on that, And and that's why I say people say, like, oh,
Speaker 2: like a lot of people try to gaslight about Russia
Speaker 2: or Iran being more powerful in the United States. You
Speaker 2: have to be out of your absolute mind if you
Speaker 2: think that these countries are more powerful in the United States,
Speaker 2: Like we just don't talk about our crazy stuff because
Speaker 2: we don't need to, Like we don't need to. And
Speaker 2: that's why, you know, anybody that goes against the United
Speaker 2: States on this in this planet is just going to
Speaker 2: get wiped out fashion and they can possibly imagine. So
Speaker 2: people then say like, oh, well, why haven't we taken
Speaker 2: over a China or shit, So well, how do you
Speaker 2: think that's going to play out? Like what, oh, Okay,
Speaker 2: we conquer you now. Now you're Americans now, Like it's
Speaker 2: not that simple. You know, that's not how geopolitics really works.
Speaker 2: But you know, the response to that Iran conflict or
Speaker 2: whatever war whatever they're calling it, twelve day war, I mean,
Speaker 2: China did nothing, Russia did nothing. That was their main
Speaker 2: ally Iran was and we just went and bombed them
Speaker 2: and walked out like nothing. Russia can't even get air
Speaker 2: superiority over Ukraine, Like what you think they're going to
Speaker 2: get air superiority over any over us in a way.
Speaker 2: So I think that was a big tell sign where
Speaker 2: people kind of had to wake up and go, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe the United States can do whatever they want. But
Speaker 2: again that's my controversial take on the geopolitics side.
Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I actually made a comment last night that I had
Speaker 6: actually thought there might be a lot of wars or
Speaker 6: a lot of things going on because of people having
Speaker 6: certain technology and just other governments don't want you having it,
Speaker 6: you know, stargates and free energy and shit like that.
Speaker 4: It was just an idea that I've had, so I
Speaker 4: guess kind of saying the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a lot of fun rabbit holes that
Speaker 2: go down on that front, because I mean, once you
Speaker 2: realize that they've got technology that's like free energy technology
Speaker 2: or teleportation, like that's stuff that nobody, like nobody in
Speaker 2: the mainstream is talking about them, even broaching the idea
Speaker 2: of people having that level of technology. But once you
Speaker 2: realize that, I was like, oh, now you start to
Speaker 2: think of things in a whole different light.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like everything's a completely different perspective, even the way
Speaker 2: that they frame a lot of this stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: the biggest scam is, of course climate change, not because
Speaker 2: it's not potentially real, but because the people that are
Speaker 2: trying to gaslight us about the dangers of climate change
Speaker 2: have the solution. They have the solution of fusion, they
Speaker 2: just don't give it to us, you know. So I
Speaker 2: do think that understanding that we have this little technology,
Speaker 2: you know, assuming that it is true and we do
Speaker 2: have it, which I'm convinced of course, Yeah, just change
Speaker 2: the perspective on everything geopolitically, frankly, and energy wise.
Speaker 8: When you identify that all the governments of the world,
Speaker 8: degree on UFOs and Antarctica, everything kind of comes into focus,
Speaker 8: like maybe there's a leakage between what they know about
Speaker 8: this stuff and how much they don't want to get
Speaker 8: bombed for saying anything about it, because it is really
Speaker 8: like godlike power, and that's that's terrifying to all these
Speaker 8: smaller countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine they had portals in like one of the
Speaker 2: one that you think about, which I'm not endorsing this particularly,
Speaker 2: but like the idea that what if Saddam Hussein wasn't
Speaker 2: building nukes, what if you had like a secret stargate
Speaker 2: or something right, Oh okay, well we had to go
Speaker 2: take that over or destroy it or something, right, because
Speaker 2: we couldn't let them have that. We couldn't rather reverse
Speaker 2: engineer that technology or something. Or what if there's something
Speaker 2: in Antarctica under there where it's like buried under the
Speaker 2: ice and we just don't want people going near it
Speaker 2: and figuring it out. Like those are the things that
Speaker 2: I that give me pause because that's like what you
Speaker 2: would do if if we figured this technology out. To me,
Speaker 2: I really struggle with like did we just naturally figure
Speaker 2: out teleportation and free energy stuff? Like I feel like
Speaker 2: we got some help somewhere, And if you look at
Speaker 2: the last like one hundred years of our advancement. We've
Speaker 2: gone like this, it's like we're building it's sentient. AI
Speaker 2: is now right, and like, you know, one hundred years
Speaker 2: ago were riding around on the horses, so you know
Speaker 2: something this doesn't It feels a little too and you
Speaker 2: could say, Okay, we have this technology technology singularity. That's
Speaker 2: happening clearly, but still to me, I'm feeling like we
Speaker 2: got some help somewhere. Maybe we dug something up, maybe
Speaker 2: crash ship, maybe we I don't know, future humans.
Speaker 4: A lot of.
Speaker 11: Austin, with the potential that Saddam Muzin had potential technology,
Speaker 11: with Iranians potentially having technology, and with the lore surrounding
Speaker 11: Nazi Germany with diglock and I'm pronouncing that, do you
Speaker 11: think that maybe that was probably one of the reasons
Speaker 11: we went in as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the diaglock thing man the Nazi Germany, there's so
Speaker 2: much lower around it, and I actually think like almost
Speaker 2: all the law is true, Like it's just really more like,
Speaker 2: what's the write a story that makes sense for all
Speaker 2: of it? And there's actually quite a few different stories
Speaker 2: that can make sense for it. But the Nazi one's
Speaker 2: really interesting because they were like spinning mercury, which is
Speaker 2: supposedly the way you can do anti gravity as well.
Speaker 2: That would have been one of the first rudimentary ways
Speaker 2: to do it. And I found one of the scientists
Speaker 2: that I found is actually a literal project paper clip scientists.
Speaker 2: Like I thought that was like a conspiracy theory thing. No,
Speaker 2: it's like a real thing. We just took the scientists
Speaker 2: from Germany, anyone that had prospects, like anyone that seemed
Speaker 2: like they could do something good. So we got we
Speaker 2: take this guy named fried Wart Winterberg. He studied under Werner.
Speaker 2: Heisenberg was in like the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, that was
Speaker 2: his mentor. And he was like fifteen years old or
Speaker 2: eighteen years old or something like that. And we spotted
Speaker 2: him and you know, said, okay, you're coming to America.
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna come teach us and do And
Speaker 2: it's crazy because he then worked on fusion and nuclear
Speaker 2: bombs and thermonuclear weapons and all, and nobody knows about
Speaker 2: him because all his research is basically just classified. And
Speaker 2: so I read his textbook about nukes. In the very
Speaker 2: first page, it says they classified inertial confinement fusion because
Speaker 2: of thermonuclear weapon applications, and then that's probably why the
Speaker 2: world will never get fusion. Like the first page, you go, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: maybe we should listen to this project paper clips. Scientists
Speaker 2: who came over never got any credits, so probably has
Speaker 2: an ax to grind and like they won't declassify as research.
Speaker 2: And he's just saying straight up that we just classified fusion,
Speaker 2: and of course we did make sense too, like oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's connected to h bombs, connected to thermonuclear weapons.
Speaker 10: Well, and one of the things that I've I guess
Speaker 10: tangentially noticed is that when you look at some of
Speaker 10: these places where they brought some of these scientists, especially
Speaker 10: the ones looking into physics, sermo dynamics, space time and
Speaker 10: all that, and you look at where they placed them
Speaker 10: and where they were doing research, you also see a
Speaker 10: correlation orbs appearing, one of them being morepha in Texas
Speaker 10: there broad Flip scientists there and Bruswell's another one or
Speaker 10: outside of it, and you do see orbs there every
Speaker 10: now and then, And I just always found that really
Speaker 10: odd that the two exist.
Speaker 12: I think causations, not correlation. I get that. However, it's
Speaker 12: a big, big coincidence in my book.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the orbs, Well, they could be studying it. You know,
Speaker 8: they could be there looking at these events that are
Speaker 8: natural and trying to figure out how to weaponize them.
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's a real possibility. That's one of
Speaker 2: the hypotheses is that, you know, people will say, okay,
Speaker 2: Ash and you say that they've got these plasma orbs, right,
Speaker 2: but what I've been researching, Okay, maybe they've had the
Speaker 2: plasma orbs since like the two thousands. That's pretty much
Speaker 2: where the science kind of culminates on humanity figuring out
Speaker 2: how to get your plasm orb to fly around based
Speaker 2: on the signific papers working on in the nineties, figured
Speaker 2: it out two thousands. Now you've got plasmidrome. But we
Speaker 2: were saying, oh, people seeing these in the you know,
Speaker 2: the Foo fighters in the twenties is a good example, right,
Speaker 2: So how do you explain that? Well, one of the
Speaker 2: answers to explain that is, well, we basically just saw
Speaker 2: the aliens or other civilizations flying around their plasma orbs
Speaker 2: and we're like, oh, we can do that. That's cool.
Speaker 2: How do they do that? And they just use electromagnetic
Speaker 2: theory and they just reverse the engineer and then figure out, oh,
Speaker 2: we can make a plasma orb too, So that's one
Speaker 2: possibility for sure. But I do think that if you
Speaker 2: look at the history of it of the UFO topic,
Speaker 2: a lot of things went from flying saucers in the seventies, eighties, nineties,
Speaker 2: even to the twenty twenty ten, specifically shifting the orbs. Specifically,
Speaker 2: I would say plasmo orbs the balls of light basically
Speaker 2: balls of energy if you want to think of them
Speaker 2: like that, and that's definitely connected to exotic vacuum objects,
Speaker 2: Ken Shoulders research, how Pudov's research and what those guys
Speaker 2: were doing, and no one just no one really knows
Speaker 2: because they haven't looked into that and seem so esoteric.
Speaker 2: But once you demystify it for people, show people the
Speaker 2: papers like the Dense Plasma Focused paper by Frank Mead
Speaker 2: and George Miiley where they're literally just talking about in
Speaker 2: the abstract, we're gonna make this plasma orb. It's gonna
Speaker 2: have jets on it, and we're gonna use it for
Speaker 2: gravity waves and use it for high energy lasers. You're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: so there it is. Two thousand and five, like Air
Speaker 2: Force was clearly clearly working on it. That's why I
Speaker 2: think we're seeing more of them is that. And the
Speaker 2: other big thing is they're drones. It's not somebody flying
Speaker 2: around in the flying saucer. They realize it's a big
Speaker 2: liability if you have to like make your thing air tight.
Speaker 2: Now you have to have an air supply inside your
Speaker 2: flying saucer, especially if you're gonna warp drive it somewhere,
Speaker 2: you know, So the solution is, don't have anybody inside
Speaker 2: of it, just have it be a drone. Maybe. In fact,
Speaker 2: the Aliens are almost certainly using drones too. Why would
Speaker 2: they come down and visit us in person? They just
Speaker 2: send a drone to come by. So I do think
Speaker 2: there's a good possibility that they kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: reverse engineered it. And then, to me, it's the crazy
Speaker 2: part is I can't even really narrow it down. I
Speaker 2: can't even tell you like, oh, yeah, I definitely came
Speaker 2: from actually terrestrials or you know, an ancient civilization like
Speaker 2: like theory of it antis or heck, even the future
Speaker 2: human hypothesis. I used to think that was silly and absurd,
Speaker 2: and then you realize like, oh no, we can actually
Speaker 2: manipulate space time. So okay, if you can go back
Speaker 2: in time, then we could be manipulating our own timeline
Speaker 2: and maybe the people gatekeeping this are like the timeline
Speaker 2: police or something. You know.
Speaker 6: It makes me think of like a movie where it
Speaker 6: was I think Jackie Sham might have been in and
Speaker 6: and he was going through like different timelines. I think
Speaker 6: of his own soul, his own self, and he was
Speaker 6: like knocking them off.
Speaker 4: That was gently one.
Speaker 2: Bro yah h yeah, my mind goes straight to hero Knakamura.
Speaker 6: Dog, did you have any questions before we move forward?
Speaker 6: I just wanted to not to put you on the spot.
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, I just wanted to ask which
Speaker 3: I would like to ask him, because he mentioned the
Speaker 3: spiritual side of it or the interdimensional side of it,
Speaker 3: and then as we're talking about zero points or conception points.
Speaker 3: I'm friends with the Greg Little and I had talked
Speaker 3: with him about a month ago and he co wrote
Speaker 3: a book with Andrew Collins called The Origins of the Gods,
Speaker 3: and basically he talked about, you know, you hear about
Speaker 3: all these encounters and things in the old world if
Speaker 3: we coined that term, because like the electromagnetic.
Speaker 4: Status of the Earth was more.
Speaker 3: Pure, and now with all the microwaves and Wi Fi
Speaker 3: and cell phones, it's really polluted the electromagnetic field, so
Speaker 3: it's kind of made it hard for these things to manifest.
Speaker 3: But he talks about plasma in that book, and in
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies, they had that apparition of Mary in
Speaker 3: Egypt above that cathedral, and this was like a big
Speaker 3: phenomenon back then. I mean, millions of people gathered around
Speaker 3: and seen this thing and documented it and had photos
Speaker 3: and video all that kind of stuff. But his re
Speaker 3: he was saying that a lot of these apparitions of
Speaker 3: these plasma biles and fields kind of held common themes
Speaker 3: with lay lines and also fault lines, and he was
Speaker 3: talking about this maybe is something that's generating under the
Speaker 3: earth like a natural energy, and it's popping out like
Speaker 3: a cracking concrete trying to find the least resistance and
Speaker 3: can escape. And he said that basically he was of
Speaker 3: the opinion that these things are basically like gateways or
Speaker 3: tars or portals like you were talking about earlier. And
Speaker 3: he says that maybe extra extra dimensional or spiritual entities
Speaker 3: used these as insertion points or ways to communicate with humanity.
Speaker 3: I just didn't know, you know, since you guys had
Speaker 3: brought that up. If you've heard him talk about that
Speaker 3: or heard that idea or what was your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've heard you know, lay lines and
Speaker 2: those concepts. I think that the lay line concept is
Speaker 2: interesting from the same for the same reason as like
Speaker 2: the what is the base structure of the universe reason?
Speaker 2: Because if there is some structure of the universe, and
Speaker 2: you would think, why they're not structure to like the
Speaker 2: Sun or to the Earth, and we just don't see
Speaker 2: it because it's invisible to us. So I think it
Speaker 2: could be possible, but I haven't been super compelled by
Speaker 2: the ley Line arguments. I do also, I do think
Speaker 2: that there's an interesting argument that you were making earlier
Speaker 2: though as well about like you know, he's saying that
Speaker 2: it might be harder to manifest certain spiritual aspects when
Speaker 2: we're polluted with this electromagnetic spectrum, because again we don't
Speaker 2: see it, but everything around us is emitting electromagnetic waves
Speaker 2: all the time, especially in today's day and age where
Speaker 2: we use electricity all the time. That would be a
Speaker 2: really interesting thing if someone could study that somehow and
Speaker 2: figure out because I like to think of the zero
Speaker 2: point energies like the white noise, the white noise that's
Speaker 2: going around in the background. So you could imagine that
Speaker 2: as a civilization is more and more advanced, you do
Speaker 2: have this pollution that could be occurring and we don't
Speaker 2: even recognize it because we don't ever see it at all.
Speaker 2: But if there are entities that are more connected to
Speaker 2: that zero point energy, maybe they don't see the same
Speaker 2: way we see. Maybe they see it as pollution everywhere
Speaker 2: else where. It's like stopping them from coming here. That
Speaker 2: would be that would be pretty interesting. I'd never really
Speaker 2: thought about that, So thanks for presenting that interesting idea.
Speaker 4: For me, Doug. That actually did real just real quick.
Speaker 4: I just want to mention this.
Speaker 6: You know, you're talking about lay lines, but I also
Speaker 6: thought of I mean, if you look at birds and
Speaker 6: you look at natural weather, you know, if there is
Speaker 6: any natural weather anymore. And it's something that I think
Speaker 6: we've even spoken about when we covered well when LISTA
Speaker 6: basically covered the morning Chorus with the birds, there is
Speaker 6: things kind of in the above us that is almost
Speaker 6: like lay lines on the ground, but like now in
Speaker 6: the air. I do wonder if like that has something
Speaker 6: to do with any of that stuff. Have you ever
Speaker 6: thought of that or stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Well, here let me tell you about some of that's,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty scientifically accepted. It's a peer reviewed paper
Speaker 2: that came out in the last year where they were
Speaker 2: able to take just a tube metal tube using a
Speaker 2: specific alloy, and based on how they aligned it to
Speaker 2: the Earth's magnetic field, it would produce voltage like if
Speaker 2: it was aligned the right way, it produced voltage free energy.
Speaker 2: He would say, where's that coming from. Technically you're sapping there.
Speaker 2: You're technically sapping the Earth of energy. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: not doing it in an appreciable amount, but that's where
Speaker 2: that's covering. And the crazy part is if they turned
Speaker 2: it in ninety degrees, the tube didn't work anymore because
Speaker 2: it's now now no longer aligned with the magnetic fields,
Speaker 2: and it had to be perfectly lied. So you could
Speaker 2: imagine like tweaking it and all of a sudden this
Speaker 2: exacts to you because it's producing electricity I mean very
Speaker 2: tiny amount. So that's why I think that, like, there
Speaker 2: clearly is obviously this connection between the field, the magnetic fields,
Speaker 2: the direction of the magnetic fields, et cetera. I think
Speaker 2: that people just kind of take it in a more
Speaker 2: esoteric aspect when they say, Okay, well these specific directions
Speaker 2: and these specific points at these at these locations. But certainly,
Speaker 2: of course certain locations, just like with that experiment, certain
Speaker 2: locations are better than other locations because of either how
Speaker 2: high you are off the ground or what have you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's definitely a, you know, at a minimum
Speaker 2: element of truth to that idea.
Speaker 4: And I even do think the Sun is somehow is
Speaker 4: possibly involvable.
Speaker 2: Sure. I mean, if you believe in the electromagnetic electric
Speaker 2: theory of the universe or plasma theory of the universe,
Speaker 2: then you know that there's electromagnetic fields coming from the Sun,
Speaker 2: you know, are helping to stabilize our entire solar system essentially,
Speaker 2: or there may even be these giant galaxy level magnetic
Speaker 2: fields that are wrapping around our entire galaxy, which could
Speaker 2: explain why the stars on the edges of the galaxies
Speaker 2: are rotating as fast as they are when they should
Speaker 2: be rotating a lot slower. So that's where I think
Speaker 2: it's funny. You look at the the conventional classical view
Speaker 2: of physics, there's all these gaps in it that they
Speaker 2: can't explain dark energy, dark matter, They have no idea
Speaker 2: where mass comes from or gravity comes from. Just exists.
Speaker 2: I think it's a fundamental force.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 2: And you realize, Oh, if they just thought about things
Speaker 2: in all like slightly more esoteric way, like a slightly
Speaker 2: different conceptional viewpoint, like all those problems just go away,
Speaker 2: they all go away.
Speaker 4: What is your not to throw this question out there randomly?
Speaker 4: What is your opinion on gravity?
Speaker 2: On gravity? Gravity is a zero point fluctuation force. So
Speaker 2: the zero point energy, this ocean of energy we're in, well,
Speaker 2: wherever there's divots in it, that's gravity. Right, So when
Speaker 2: we have a massive Earth or the Sun sitting in
Speaker 2: that field of zero point energy, it pulls everything towards
Speaker 2: It pulls everything towards it. That's gravity. So I think
Speaker 2: of it as a zero point energy is the fabric
Speaker 2: of the space time, and when you're distorting that fabric,
Speaker 2: that's where the gravity is coming from. So how do
Speaker 2: I create gravity? Distort the fabric? So this is exactly
Speaker 2: why you add energy to a region, just like if
Speaker 2: you're adding a planet to a you're going to create
Speaker 2: going to create gravity. So that's how I view gravity.
Speaker 2: And there's a good paper by hal Putoff nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 2: gravity is a zero point fluctuation force where he's probably
Speaker 2: not the first person, but I like his paper because
Speaker 2: he's prestigious, people know him. And he connected electromagnetism to gravity.
Speaker 2: I mean it had already been unified like one hundred
Speaker 2: years ago, but he does the equations shows the mass
Speaker 2: shows Einstein's equation goes, look there it is, and you know,
Speaker 2: people try to critique it, but he countered the critiques
Speaker 2: as well, and I think we're just had a point.
Speaker 2: I mean that was nineteen eighty nine, so thirty six
Speaker 2: years ago he wrote that paper. Maybe now we're ready
Speaker 2: to accept it. That's how things really work. I don't know. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, was dig into remote viewing too, so
Speaker 2: you know, this goes to show that he was at
Speaker 2: least thinking about the idea that the zero point energy
Speaker 2: was more than just gravity manipulation, you know, more like
Speaker 2: is there a connection to the conscious?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's sort of like an informational field which which
Speaker 8: goes back into plasma because plasma seems to have self
Speaker 8: organizing properties, and if that's connected to this informational field.
Speaker 8: That kind of makes sense why there would be this
Speaker 8: linkage between plasma physics and stuff like remote viewing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never knew what plasma physics was all about
Speaker 2: before this, you know, I'm like, why do we care
Speaker 2: so much about plasma? What plasma physics? Albo? But now
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's all plasma physics. It's like all
Speaker 2: plasma physics. Because we're realizing, like, where does electricity come from?
Speaker 2: Electricity is just an asymmetry a positive and negative charge
Speaker 2: being separated. You separate a positive native charge, electricity will form.
Speaker 2: You think about from that conceptual viewpoint, you go, okay,
Speaker 2: well what is a plasma? A plasma separating the negative
Speaker 2: charge and electron from the positive charge ion. Oh what,
Speaker 2: that's the same thing as electricity, No wonder, plasma is
Speaker 2: so important. Plasma is basically the base form of what
Speaker 2: we're doing with electricity. And I saw some people in
Speaker 2: the chat mentioned in cimatics like a Bose Einstein condensate
Speaker 2: is functionally, in my opinion, equivalent of taking matter, taking
Speaker 2: plasma or whatever, and turning into a coherent form shape,
Speaker 2: using frequency, using wavelengths, using resonance. Because again, everything is waves.
Speaker 2: So the way we should be thinking about, how are
Speaker 2: we getting these two waves to interact. If this wave
Speaker 2: is going like this and this wave is like longer like,
Speaker 2: what happens when they meet? What happens when they interact
Speaker 2: with one another? You know, That's how I think people
Speaker 2: should be thinking about it.
Speaker 8: And that goes back to the cavitation effect and the
Speaker 8: light being created in the bubble.
Speaker 2: If you're talking aboutminescence. Sonoluminescence is one of the cooler
Speaker 2: experiments where they take sound waves in water and light
Speaker 2: forms where they meet. You know, they create a scale
Speaker 2: and interference in the middle. You get this cavitation effect,
Speaker 2: and it's hard for classical physics to explain that where's
Speaker 2: the light coming from? You just put sound and water
Speaker 2: and light is coming out of nowhere, like you know,
Speaker 2: that's need and people would question is there fusion happening?
Speaker 7: There?
Speaker 2: Is that where the lights you know, coming from? I
Speaker 2: think when you just think about in terms of waves
Speaker 2: and mixing waves makes a lot more sense. I mean,
Speaker 2: still kind of hard to wrap our brains around because
Speaker 2: we live in this three D world where we think
Speaker 2: of everything as a physical object. But when you move
Speaker 2: away from it, thinking everything's a physical object, then we
Speaker 2: really open our minds up to a lot more possibilities.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 3: All the talk of water in waves, I just recently
Speaker 3: heard a turn looking into some of this stuff where
Speaker 3: you came on and I heard people talking about space foam?
Speaker 3: Is that like the scientific kind of term for these
Speaker 3: waves and waters that everything kind of risks in where
Speaker 3: there's like void space or what is space foam?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think, uh was it Tom Beard in? I think
Speaker 2: he said he thought of the ether the zero poon
Speaker 2: energy is like little bubbles. Like, so if you were
Speaker 2: to really boil it down to the small scale, what
Speaker 2: would it look like. It would look like little bubbles
Speaker 2: in like a bubble wall basically, because that's some small level,
Speaker 2: there must be some structure, right, that's the idea behind it.
Speaker 2: So if you think about these little bubbles, it's easier
Speaker 2: to understand. Because you're walking through these bubbles. What's that
Speaker 2: gonna do. It's it's gonna resist you, right, It's gonna
Speaker 2: cause a force to push back. That's inertia. That's what
Speaker 2: inertia is. Why can I not accelerate to the speed
Speaker 2: of light even in outer space? I mean on the
Speaker 2: Earth it's because the friction of the air. But even
Speaker 2: in outer space, I can't accelerate to the speed of light.
Speaker 2: Why because of the zero point energy is slowing me down.
Speaker 2: That's the reason. That's what inertia is. Another thing you
Speaker 2: were talking about was the fluid. So they actually came
Speaker 2: up with a term for the whole study of the plasma,
Speaker 2: because the plasma acts like a fluid. They call it
Speaker 2: magneto hydrodynamics MHD. Magneto hydrodynamics. Sometimes we'll hear it called
Speaker 2: different versions of that, but what that means is they
Speaker 2: create the plasma and now you treat it like a liquid,
Speaker 2: and because it's flowing around different directions, what you're trying
Speaker 2: to do, we're trying to stabilize it. We're talking togure.
Speaker 2: How can we stabilize this plant? How can we get
Speaker 2: this plant to do what we want? Well, there's a
Speaker 2: whole field of physics around it called magneto hydrodynamics. So
Speaker 2: for people they didn't know what that term meant MHD,
Speaker 2: now you do. Anytime you see MHD, they're talking about
Speaker 2: manipulating plasma with magnetic fields. Get in to do what
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: One thing I wanted to kind of touch on is that.
Speaker 4: I think you kind of mentioned Lockie Martin a few times.
Speaker 6: It was interesting how you're kind of showing like some
Speaker 6: of the stuff that they're kind of coming out with
Speaker 6: now that I think you're saying is proving that they've
Speaker 6: been using this stuff for a minute, Right, Is there
Speaker 6: anything on that that you want to like maybe could
Speaker 6: specifically touch on.
Speaker 2: Well, for Lockied Martin, that mean their compact fusion reactor,
Speaker 2: that's that's got to be the I mean, how are
Speaker 2: we not just like having congressional hearings from all public
Speaker 2: available data from the guy that built it literally saying
Speaker 2: that's successful. That means they have a working fusion reactor
Speaker 2: that's compact, meaning like can fit in my house, doesn't
Speaker 2: even going to fit in some giant power plant like that.
Speaker 2: That's free energy for everybody. Like this is the thing
Speaker 2: where I'm just like, how do people reconcile the fact
Speaker 2: that Lockheed Martin just has a compact fusion reactor. They're
Speaker 2: just not telling us about it, and they've had seven
Speaker 2: years minimum to tell us about probably longer than that,
Speaker 2: and we're just okay with them hiding that wall, this
Speaker 2: big charade of fusion, pretending like we're researching fusion trying
Speaker 2: to figure it out, when Locked Martin's already had it solved.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that I just can't wrap my brain around.
Speaker 2: In fact, let's play this video here a little intermission
Speaker 2: for us, because I have the Lockheed Martin. This is
Speaker 2: from their website, Like this is the guy that helped
Speaker 2: develop this. Let's just listen to this video here and
Speaker 2: we'll listen to this is.
Speaker 13: Thomas's fusion is a much safer option. So next generation
Speaker 13: of airplanes that doesn't rely on fuel. It can just
Speaker 13: stay aloft, unlimited range, unlimited endurance. That's what nuclear fusion
Speaker 13: can do for an airplane. We put it in a
Speaker 13: magnetic bottle that can contain the high temperatures you need,
Speaker 13: hundreds of millions of degrees we can release in a
Speaker 13: controlled fashion net energy. We think we have a very
Speaker 13: robust strategy going forward that has potential for success. What
Speaker 13: this concept does is it's a high beta concept, which
Speaker 13: means we use a high fraction of the magnetic field pressure,
Speaker 13: We use all of its potential, and that means we
Speaker 13: can make our devices ten times small, so instead of
Speaker 13: something the size of a building, we have something the
Speaker 13: size of a large truck. The small is the reason
Speaker 13: we can do this quickly. If something small you can
Speaker 13: build up momentum, you can develop it fast. It doesn't
Speaker 13: take five years to design it. It takes three months.
Speaker 13: We can design it, build it, test it, and under
Speaker 13: a year we can do several of these cycles and
Speaker 13: we think we can get to a prototype in five years.
Speaker 13: Every time you do plasma physics, you learn something new,
Speaker 13: and that's why this is a high risk, high payoff endeavor.
Speaker 13: That's what we're doing here is seeing that concept out
Speaker 13: to see if it really holds the promise that it
Speaker 13: appears to. And as a defense company, our increasing mission
Speaker 13: is to enhance global security, and this is how we
Speaker 13: do that.
Speaker 2: In the energy realm.
Speaker 13: Gas turbines are a huge improvement over other technologies in
Speaker 13: terms of climate change, but they are only a fifty
Speaker 13: percent improvement. We take it all the way so no emissions,
Speaker 13: safe operation, proiferation free. That means we can ship it
Speaker 13: to the whole world with a good conscience. Now, the
Speaker 13: old promise of atoms for peace was a noble one,
Speaker 13: but ultimately flawed because the technology wasn't right for it.
Speaker 13: We can achieve that grand vision and bring clean power
Speaker 13: to the world. The true atomic age can start. Ten
Speaker 13: years we have great military vehicles. Twenty years we have
Speaker 13: clean power for the world. This isn't online by twenty
Speaker 13: one hundred. This is online by the time. I can't
Speaker 13: even retire after we'd finish this. No, I still have
Speaker 13: to find another job after this is done.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'd say absolutely. Configuration there looks just like fried
Speaker 2: Art Winterberg's fusion design thermonuclear designs as well, with the
Speaker 2: ring on the inside. Basically there's a tube and then
Speaker 2: there's an outer ring on the outer side. As how
Speaker 2: they make those devices. A couple things I want to
Speaker 2: point out there. He says, we could have this in
Speaker 2: five years. That video is from like twenty fourteen. Videos
Speaker 2: from twenty fourteen. Well what happened, bro is twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Now where did it go? The guy that literally that
Speaker 2: wasn't the guy. That guy was one of the main engineers.
Speaker 2: But Charles Chase is the guy that oversaw the whole
Speaker 2: thing that convinced the XOS. He said it was all successful.
Speaker 2: Says unlimited endurance, unlimited range. They're saying that fusion can
Speaker 2: cause your planing to stay in the air forever, forever,
Speaker 2: never have to come down ever again. No emissions, no
Speaker 2: emissions whatsoever. Yeah, the crazy part about this is some
Speaker 2: point in the chat is that this is actually just
Speaker 2: all real. Like that's the craziest part about all this
Speaker 2: is they're literally just real. It's just there like there
Speaker 2: you go, there's your thing. And somebody asks, like, how
Speaker 2: how are they doing fusion? If fusion supposedly takes one
Speaker 2: hundred million degrees, how are those orbs doing fusion? How
Speaker 2: can they do compact fusion reactor like that while everybody
Speaker 2: else is struggling. Well, one the theory says that it
Speaker 2: takes one hundred million degrees or even one billion degrees
Speaker 2: if you're doing a neutronic fusion, which is what they're doing,
Speaker 2: by the way, So how are they doing that? Clearly
Speaker 2: they're looking at the universe in a different way than
Speaker 2: everybody else's. If you just listen to Helian Fusion, who's
Speaker 2: also doing field reverse configuration, they're CXO or CEO in
Speaker 2: one of their publicly available YouTube videos, says straight up
Speaker 2: the theory says that it should take like one hundred
Speaker 2: evs or whatever to cause fusion to happen. In these
Speaker 2: a neutronic fusion reactions. Experimentally, they're seeing that ten times
Speaker 2: lower than that, ten times lower than that experimentally. The
Speaker 2: other difference so different. First of all is theory versus
Speaker 2: actual experimentation. The second thing is that when we talk
Speaker 2: about the temperatures needed, we have to stop thinking about
Speaker 2: it in terms of actual just temperature. That's not what
Speaker 2: they're doing. We're not just heating it up. We're pressurizing it.
Speaker 2: When we put pressure on something, it does heat up.
Speaker 2: It's the pressure that what's causes fusion because we have
Speaker 2: to overcome the Kolan barrier. It's not just making it hotter.
Speaker 2: That's that's why I think hot fusion is such a
Speaker 2: stupid way to think about it. That's not really not
Speaker 2: what's happening. We want to be thinking about as we're
Speaker 2: making a gravitational well, it's causing things to come ever together.
Speaker 2: That's probably the more accurate way to think about it
Speaker 2: from the real realistic perspective. But long story short, they
Speaker 2: are causing. With plasma, they cause things to come together,
Speaker 2: and with the orbs, the way you should imagine You've
Speaker 2: got this plasma ball, but we've got two ends on it.
Speaker 2: So one end, you got this air coming in getting
Speaker 2: ion eyed turned into plasma, and then it's like a
Speaker 2: traffic jam. It's getting pushed through this squeeze for this
Speaker 2: little tube and the magnetic field lines are squeezing it together.
Speaker 2: So what does that do? Oh slow it down. It
Speaker 2: gets stuck. Those that matter are coming in through the front.
Speaker 2: It's kind of getting stuck. And then when it's getting
Speaker 2: pressed together, boom, there you go. You've got fusion. That's
Speaker 2: exactly what we need to have happen. So I think
Speaker 2: the big thing they figured out is stop trying to
Speaker 2: like perfectly confine it. Let the plasma do what it
Speaker 2: wants to do. The plasma wants to shoot jets out,
Speaker 2: use them, can control the jets, and then where that
Speaker 2: jets shoot through your plasma, waile use that as the
Speaker 2: fusion where you're gonna have the fusion occur. The last
Speaker 2: bit is this, how do you manage the heat? Because
Speaker 2: even if that okay, you are creating these pressures that
Speaker 2: are causing fusion to occur, there should be thermal heat
Speaker 2: coming out of this thing. You have to have really
Speaker 2: good thermal regulation. And so they figured out several ways
Speaker 2: to do this. I think it's Charles Chase or somebody
Speaker 2: else I found I think has plasma actuators. Basically, it's
Speaker 2: like the shear of the plasma going over the surface
Speaker 2: can be like turned into turn into electricity. And then
Speaker 2: the other thing you found is that there's like thermo
Speaker 2: electric generators they can use too, So they've clearly figured
Speaker 2: out some additional technology to basically manage the heat that's
Speaker 2: coming out of that so that it stays at a
Speaker 2: very like room temperature level. Because when we lay those
Speaker 2: plasma balls, they were like the same temperatures like the
Speaker 2: air and the plane. They weren't like red hot or
Speaker 2: anything like that. So even if in the middle there's
Speaker 2: this red hot thing happening, it must get cool by
Speaker 2: the time it gets to like the edge of the bowl.
Speaker 2: There you go, that's my best guess at that, Thank you. Well.
Speaker 8: It could also it could also be a geometric factor,
Speaker 8: you know, like the geometric fields that they're generating actually
Speaker 8: do create that compression, and so you know, looking at
Speaker 8: it from that perspective, you can kind of understand why
Speaker 8: they would want to do it in the open air
Speaker 8: and not have that confinement.
Speaker 2: And it might be able to work underwater too. I
Speaker 2: think those orbs are probably trans medium. I think that
Speaker 2: the place where they would work the lease swell is
Speaker 2: actually in outer space, because I think they're actually using
Speaker 2: the air to preionize, to like add plasma to the reaction,
Speaker 2: And so I think they design those orbs to imagine
Speaker 2: they would be used in our atmosphere and maybe underwater
Speaker 2: as well, if they can ionize the hydro the hydrogen
Speaker 2: out of the water and use that. But I think
Speaker 2: you need a different solution if you're going to go
Speaker 2: outer space, which maybe is that teleportation thing. And there's
Speaker 2: definitely a geometrical aspect, no question to all of this,
Speaker 2: which is the thing that I've been tiptoed around the
Speaker 2: most because a lot of people call it sacred geometry.
Speaker 2: I don't really care what the geometry is that allows
Speaker 2: it to work. But absolutely if you start digging into
Speaker 2: wormholes and nukes, you will find that they both are
Speaker 2: heavily reliant on geometry. Heavily reliant on geometry. Inside of
Speaker 2: all it's all about with the geometry of nukes. What
Speaker 2: they're trying to figure out is if we are trying
Speaker 2: to ignite a fusion reaction, how do I get the
Speaker 2: waves to hit it at the exact right point in
Speaker 2: the way world will cause that fusion reaction, that fusion
Speaker 2: bomb to go off. That's how they were thinking about it.
Speaker 2: So Fridert Winnerberg has this polyhedral configure youration, geometric configuration,
Speaker 2: perfect equilateral triangle around your fusion detonation. I saw that
Speaker 2: in this Textbok. I'm going, wow, looks just like the
Speaker 2: orbs in the videos. Like maybe even wonder second guess,
Speaker 2: like maybe the lithium in the plane was being used
Speaker 2: as a fusion bomb and those orbs are the triggers
Speaker 2: essentially to make it go off. I can't say for sure,
Speaker 2: but still possible. So uh sorry, I got a little
Speaker 2: sidetracked there, but yeah, oh yeah, sorry. The other tip
Speaker 2: of the wormhole, there's also a polyhedral wormhole configuration. I
Speaker 2: can't believe that. I can't believe how many. There's like
Speaker 2: five different kinds of wormholes. I thought there was just
Speaker 2: like one, but no, there's like all these different kinds.
Speaker 2: One of them is a spinning configuration, and you can
Speaker 2: mix the spinning configuration with a polyhedral configuration, which creates
Speaker 2: a flat faced surface. The benefit being if you need
Speaker 2: negative energy, this minimizes the amount of negative energy you
Speaker 2: need because you're not trying to move this huge region
Speaker 2: like this. You're just trying to make a flat surface.
Speaker 2: So what you're really doing is you're making like a mirror.
Speaker 2: And what they do is they stitch together two points.
Speaker 2: So you say, okay, my negative energy, all I have
Speaker 2: to do is stitch together this flat faced surface, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to connect here it over here, And then
Speaker 2: if I go through over here on this side right now,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I just appear over here. But
Speaker 2: it's only a temporary wormhole too, it's not a permanent portal.
Speaker 2: And this is one of the other things I found
Speaker 2: is that if you read the non Locality Paper, a
Speaker 2: defense intelligence reference document by John Kramer, he talks about
Speaker 2: we may not be able to make like permanent portals
Speaker 2: because this idea of time becomes really fuzzy, like your
Speaker 2: flow of time might not be the same over here
Speaker 2: as it is over here. We just assume it is
Speaker 2: because we're all on Earth. Our flow of time is
Speaker 2: all the same because we're all on the same planet.
Speaker 2: But if you were on a planet this a lot
Speaker 2: more massive than our planet, your gravity would be different
Speaker 2: and therefore your flow of time would be different compared
Speaker 2: to our flow of time. So if you imagine a
Speaker 2: portal between a super heavy planet and our planet, if
Speaker 2: you are looking through it, one side would look like
Speaker 2: they're moving in super speed and the other side would
Speaker 2: look like they're moving in slow mo. So that would
Speaker 2: be very bizarre if you were to go through that.
Speaker 2: What happens when, like your your arm goes through it,
Speaker 2: and now your arm is moving in slow moo, but
Speaker 2: your rest of your bodies on the other side. Like
Speaker 2: this is the reason why I think even from like
Speaker 2: just some thinking about a perspective, it would start to
Speaker 2: get really weird on how that could work.
Speaker 8: Right, But I think I think there's precedent to kind
Speaker 8: of look at these things as side effects of what
Speaker 8: they were originally trying to do, and so you could
Speaker 8: see how these type of side effects could have, you know,
Speaker 8: massive implications that nobody's even thought of yet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I think the biggest one
Speaker 2: is like, are you going to break the time stream?
Speaker 2: You know, like if we can go back in time,
Speaker 2: that would be the biggest fear. My fears were somewhat
Speaker 2: alleviated reading the same John Kramer paper where he says
Speaker 2: that all the og physicists that figured out atom bomb's
Speaker 2: and all this stuff, they believe that nature wasn't going
Speaker 2: to let us go back in time, that somehow like
Speaker 2: quantum entanglement would break down or something when you try
Speaker 2: to do that, And they actually worked around it. They
Speaker 2: built a teleportation protocol just assuming that you can't go
Speaker 2: back in time, but with no retro causality. They created
Speaker 2: an EPR experiment where they can control the length of
Speaker 2: the path of one of the two entangled photons, and
Speaker 2: they say, Okay, don't make it go back in time,
Speaker 2: just make it be exactly like instant transmission, because that
Speaker 2: way there's no retro causality. Like, what's the fastest you
Speaker 2: can go without going back in time? Instant like instant
Speaker 2: teleportation from one point to the next. Right that way,
Speaker 2: you're not there's no retro causality issue. So that's what
Speaker 2: they built. And that's crazy because that would mean that
Speaker 2: those if that's what's happening in the plane video, that
Speaker 2: would mean there's something at the destination. I mean they've
Speaker 2: created like here's point A and here's point B, and
Speaker 2: they've engineered the two points so it Actually, that would
Speaker 2: mean it's more of like a warp gate or something
Speaker 2: like that, right in sci fi, Like you have to
Speaker 2: have something at this point where it's like actually connecting
Speaker 2: those and then you flick it on and then you
Speaker 2: go through and then you appear at the other side.
Speaker 10: I was asha, and I was going to say, doesn't
Speaker 10: it somewhat have a basis in the WU experiment when
Speaker 10: she was looking at ultraweek electromagnetic forces and the you know,
Speaker 10: they moved her over to the Manhattan Project. But also
Speaker 10: the new papers that have come out about neutrinos, how
Speaker 10: they're traveling back in time, so to speak.
Speaker 12: Would that all be related to what.
Speaker 2: You are I think of neutrinos as like the ether.
Speaker 2: I think that's the mainstream, like the relic. Neutrinos is
Speaker 2: the way they like. I think that when they're talking
Speaker 2: about the trees, they're talking about like sub atomic particles,
Speaker 2: everything below electrons and atoms. To me, like, I think
Speaker 2: of it as like when physicists are talking about it.
Speaker 2: I think it is like a fuzzy concept, not something
Speaker 2: that's like super hard, because we don't see that stuff.
Speaker 2: It's really more how we kind of conceptualize it. So
Speaker 2: that's how I think about the neutrino aspect. Sorry, what
Speaker 2: was the other thing that you were saying?
Speaker 12: Oh about the WU experiment, how she capitalize on the.
Speaker 2: So people should check on my interview with doctor U
Speaker 2: from NASA, doctor you from NASA, who has a UoN theory,
Speaker 2: his unification theory that everything is just magnetism, because he
Speaker 2: has a really good experiment of how this is possible
Speaker 2: where he says, Okay, you imagine your two atoms that
Speaker 2: are repelling each other. They don't want to come together. Now,
Speaker 2: just imagine that it's a magnet where it's got positive
Speaker 2: north and negative south, and this is the reason why
Speaker 2: they're you know, two norths are gonna repel each other. Okay,
Speaker 2: but what happens if I flip this one over? Now
Speaker 2: the south is facing this way. Now they're gonna come together.
Speaker 2: And he says, what if this is how it's really working.
Speaker 2: What if we have these extra degrees of freedom? Everything
Speaker 2: is just spinning, spinning little spheres and it seems like
Speaker 2: they can't come together. But all we have to do
Speaker 2: is just reorient it. If we just reorient it, now
Speaker 2: they'll boom come together. That would be anyone who's research
Speaker 2: nuclear physics. You know, if you start to figure something
Speaker 2: like that out, you're going dark because now you've figured
Speaker 2: out how we can do fusion really easily potentially, because
Speaker 2: once you figure out the mechanism for flipping around that
Speaker 2: that spin, changing manipulat that spin, now you can get
Speaker 2: rid of the cool on barrier. Essentially.
Speaker 10: It reminds me of and when you look at the
Speaker 10: I guess, not the prototype, but the actual mechanism of
Speaker 10: the guy from Locked Martin that you just showed with
Speaker 10: the film. If you look at it on Google, it
Speaker 10: almost looks like a mitochondria, you know, within the cell
Speaker 10: with power houses the cell, right, mitochondria itself somewhat has
Speaker 10: fusion itself by finding photons into you know, utilizing that
Speaker 10: as its currency. But what it also does is it
Speaker 10: also produces its own light, and it also produces its
Speaker 10: own water. And with mitochondria, it can also produce waves
Speaker 10: to manipulate.
Speaker 12: I guess it's like a preprint paper that.
Speaker 10: Came out that was talking about how it can send
Speaker 10: out signals in a plasma formation or form. We showed
Speaker 10: that mechanism. It was shows like, oh my god, it
Speaker 10: looks like monochondria.
Speaker 2: It's funny. They literally the two ways to stabilize plasma
Speaker 2: I saw one is axial rotation. The other one is
Speaker 2: a helical rotation. Helical meaning DNA right a spiral. And
Speaker 2: if you play this video that I was put out,
Speaker 2: I think you're going to enjoy this. What does plasma
Speaker 2: do in outer space in zero G? If you just
Speaker 2: put some dust into it so that you give it
Speaker 2: some substance and they just let the plasma do its
Speaker 2: own thing, it forms structures. It begins to naturally form
Speaker 2: structures in zero G. Can you pull up this video here?
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a fun one to watch because
Speaker 2: it's going to connect to those ideas that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna mute it because it might be a
Speaker 2: copyright thing or whatever. I think the music's signed. But
Speaker 2: you can see here, look at the plasma form these structures.
Speaker 2: You can see these tendrils being formed from it. So
Speaker 2: why is this important? Because we're seeing these electrostatic forces,
Speaker 2: we're seeing those nuclear forces. That's why it's doing this.
Speaker 2: So whatever it's structuring into it has to be because
Speaker 2: of these forces. One of the cool things they're going
Speaker 2: to show here in a second is that avoid just
Speaker 2: naturally forms like just a black circle. Void forms where
Speaker 2: the plasma just goes all around. It almost looks like
Speaker 2: a black hole. So this is a Russian experiment that
Speaker 2: these guys were testing. That's why we've got the subtitles here.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, because of their repulsion and attraction, they
Speaker 2: form this lattice structure. Look at that lattice structure right there.
Speaker 2: You can see the structure basically being formed from it.
Speaker 2: And then they would see this empty void appear in
Speaker 2: the middle of the lattest structure. Look at that void.
Speaker 2: How crazy is that? That's just in zero G plasma
Speaker 2: floating around in zero G of natural void just forms.
Speaker 2: Look at that. That's insane. But the best part coming
Speaker 2: up here in a second is that the plasma also
Speaker 2: doesn't just organized like this where it almost looks like
Speaker 2: a squid or something creepy. It also forms to explain galaxies.
Speaker 2: And it also formed to explain, uh, there's your galaxy
Speaker 2: right there. Look at that. Look at how fast the
Speaker 2: stars of the edges or these are just little particles
Speaker 2: of dust. But this explains, like we don't need dark matter.
Speaker 2: There's your answer right there. The edges are spinning almost
Speaker 2: as fast as the center because it's just plasma in space.
Speaker 2: And then the last part is the DNA. The plasma
Speaker 2: also forms double helix structures naturally in outer space as well,
Speaker 2: so it goes to show these double helix structures must
Speaker 2: be a natural pheno. Look at that. This is the
Speaker 2: craziest to me looking at that, like that looks just
Speaker 2: like a double helix. So that's one of my favorite
Speaker 2: videos on plasma when I'm trying to get people like
Speaker 2: why is plasma cools? Like have you seen what it
Speaker 2: does in outer space? When it just floating around freely pretty.
Speaker 10: Quickly almost It almost gives a nod to vortex Mauth
Speaker 10: some of those concepts of thirty sixty nine.
Speaker 12: And then you look at secret.
Speaker 10: Societies and how they kind of manipulate their sigils and
Speaker 10: what have you. And when you look at these sigils,
Speaker 10: these sigils almost manipulate what formations are made in biological structure.
Speaker 10: And I think biological structures, yes, they are intelligent themselves,
Speaker 10: but I think they are following what is it nature
Speaker 10: follows the path of these right, pick the most common.
Speaker 12: It's not a female.
Speaker 10: It's not going to pick the most complicated you know anything,
Speaker 10: it's going to follow the path of least resistance.
Speaker 12: And I think that is what we're seeing.
Speaker 10: Whether it is with the Fibonacci sequence or the Golden ratio,
Speaker 10: or plasma forming into helical structures, it's basically showing you
Speaker 10: what the plasma itself is doing.
Speaker 12: I think, in my opinion, you're.
Speaker 2: Right, the vortep structures are connected all this. And I'm
Speaker 2: not somebody I don't really care about the you know,
Speaker 2: imagery or numerology. If that stuff connects, it connects right,
Speaker 2: great for me. That's how I view it. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it's I'm not discrediting it, but it is the
Speaker 2: vortex stuff people like that's in the science vortex motion
Speaker 2: related to it is like the way they view it
Speaker 2: is the same way where you'd view pulling the drain
Speaker 2: on your bathtub, So like you pull the drain on
Speaker 2: your bathtub in a vortex forms it's extra dimensional vortex,
Speaker 2: right Like when we look at it on the surface,
Speaker 2: it just looks like a ring. But if you were
Speaker 2: to measure it, you could see this is actual vortex
Speaker 2: pulling through the medium. That's how you can look at
Speaker 2: the zero point energy when we're interacting with it as well.
Speaker 2: And in fact it's gone so far as they're solving
Speaker 2: those vortex equations, solving Schrodinger's equations, and then you would ask, like,
Speaker 2: what could you do if you could solve that vortex?
Speaker 2: And what if you get if you could solve that
Speaker 2: vortex in the ether that we can't physically see because
Speaker 2: it's extra dimensional, could you like actually control entanglement? Could
Speaker 2: you cause something to appear here and over here and
Speaker 2: be connected to one another? I think the answer is yes,
Speaker 2: And I think that's how they figured out teleportation, was
Speaker 2: first figure out how we can actually control the etheric,
Speaker 2: control the medium, and now you can get things that
Speaker 2: look like magic to be happen.
Speaker 8: Victor Schauberger was writing about that. He was another one
Speaker 8: of these Operation paper Clip type scientists who started over
Speaker 8: in Austria and then came to America, had all of
Speaker 8: his papers stolen and he was just kicked out. It's
Speaker 8: like you're fired. Now we're taking all this stuff unreal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Tesla, there were a lot of guys that
Speaker 2: were probably like one hundred years before their time, honestly,
Speaker 2: and you think back going that far, those people had
Speaker 2: no chance, you were never going to convince people that
Speaker 2: were riding on horses and what have you that you know,
Speaker 2: you could do you levitate and things like that that
Speaker 2: they were saying, or that free energy was possible. I
Speaker 2: mean those people were living in you know, at the time,
Speaker 2: we were living in a material world where there's you
Speaker 2: couldn't think of stuff that was esoteric like that. The
Speaker 2: idea that an object is a wave, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: even too far out there for most people right now
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. So that's what makes this so difficult
Speaker 2: for people, And that's why I think that the best
Speaker 2: thing that we can do. People ask me, like, why
Speaker 2: are you not building something? Why are you not doing whatever?
Speaker 2: It's like building something's not gonna help. People are already
Speaker 2: building it and they just get ignored, discredited or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's like we have to demystify this. We have to
Speaker 2: like actually break it down for people and be like, okay, no,
Speaker 2: like actually matter is really a wave. So that means
Speaker 2: we can do you know, a matter wave and things
Speaker 2: like that, and explain, like what can we actually do
Speaker 2: with this stuff? Talk about it in a normal way
Speaker 2: and not talk about it and laugh about it, like
Speaker 2: they do on mainstream media when they talk about aliens
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, like, oh, you know, it turns
Speaker 2: out we can make a replicator with this. That's my
Speaker 2: favorite one Star Trek replicator. People can get their minds
Speaker 2: around that. They go, wait, we can make a replicator.
Speaker 2: Doesn't that like free everything forever? Yes, exactly, unlimited abundance,
Speaker 2: the end of scarcity.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, even that double slid experiment they did a while back,
Speaker 3: they were going back and forth if it was a
Speaker 3: wave or a particle, wave or a particle. And from
Speaker 3: my understanding, and like I said, I'm a Southern man,
Speaker 3: so I'm a little slow, but from what I took
Speaker 3: from it was that they had come to the conclusion
Speaker 3: that it was basically.
Speaker 2: Both that when you observe it, it's a wave.
Speaker 3: When you observe it, it's almost like it has a consciousness,
Speaker 3: But when you're not observing it, it turns into a particle.
Speaker 3: So I thought that was pretty wild concept.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the reason why it's the most mysterious
Speaker 2: experiment in all the physics. I mean, my interpretation is
Speaker 2: that it's not a particle, is that we give it
Speaker 2: a particle like quality to explain it in our reality.
Speaker 2: But the answer is it's always was a wave, and
Speaker 2: I think where Einstein was wrong. Einstein actually won his
Speaker 2: Nobel Prize in the photoelectric effects, which was we take
Speaker 2: a piece of metal and we shoot light at it,
Speaker 2: and the electrons are going to get ripped off the metal.
Speaker 2: So we know that that should happen from a physics perspective.
Speaker 2: What we did not expect is that if I increased
Speaker 2: the brightness of the light, we'd expect the electrons to
Speaker 2: get shot off faster, like that's just normal physic If
Speaker 2: I increased the intensity, there should be more energy. Therefore
Speaker 2: the electron should get shot off at a higher speed.
Speaker 2: But that didn't happen. The electrons were getting shot off
Speaker 2: at the same speed even when I increase the brightness
Speaker 2: of the light. But that doesn't make sense. If I
Speaker 2: push on a rock harder, the rock's going to move further, right,
Speaker 2: simple physics. So what was going on? So Einstein all
Speaker 2: these scientists came up, how do we explain this, Well,
Speaker 2: there's another mystery. They figured out how to make the
Speaker 2: electrons shoot out faster, and it's not increasing the brightness.
Speaker 2: It's by changing the color of the light. What well,
Speaker 2: what is changing the color of the light. Changing the
Speaker 2: color light's changing the frequency of the light, So it's
Speaker 2: not increasing the brightness and the intensity. It's changing the
Speaker 2: wavelength of the light. Causes the electron either shoot at
Speaker 2: a higher or lower. So Einstein thought, oh, well, there
Speaker 2: must be this magical quantum of light. We'll call it
Speaker 2: a photon. This quantum of light, this packet of light,
Speaker 2: and the packet size can change, and that's how it's
Speaker 2: interacting with that. I think that's retarded, no offense. I
Speaker 2: think that's stupid. But because the answer is resonance. Once
Speaker 2: you told me that it's the color of the light
Speaker 2: changing the intensity, the answer is frequency. The answer is
Speaker 2: if I have this wave of going like this, and
Speaker 2: this wave is exactly the same, there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: significant reaction. They're going to cancel each other out perfectly.
Speaker 2: But if one of them just going like this and
Speaker 2: the other one's going crazy, there's gonna be a different reaction.
Speaker 2: Maybe there'll be very little reaction to that case. So
Speaker 2: resonance is the answer, which is sad because it would
Speaker 2: mean the Tesla was right about everything. Energy, frequency, vibration
Speaker 2: is all of it, and that would mean that Einstein
Speaker 2: when he went down with this photon and particle interpretation
Speaker 2: like set us back really far, because that mindset is
Speaker 2: what's holding this back, that mindset that everything's a particle,
Speaker 2: because we really desperately want this to be a physical object.
Speaker 2: But when you look at it and you boil it down,
Speaker 2: this isn't a physical This is mostly empty. This cup
Speaker 2: is mostly empty. And the only reason why I didn't
Speaker 2: go through the cup is because the electrons in this
Speaker 2: cup repelled the electrons in my hand. That's the real
Speaker 2: way the world works. We just don't perceive it that way.
Speaker 6: Yes, exactly, Helen. So I don't know if you're trying
Speaker 6: to say something but your immune Sorry.
Speaker 8: Super cold hydrogen four creates a superfluid that can go
Speaker 8: through any object. So is it really going through the
Speaker 8: object or is it just not going along with the
Speaker 8: same sort of frequency.
Speaker 2: Means really question right right?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, superfluid helium too. And then that's the thing
Speaker 2: is that when we bring some of these liquids to
Speaker 2: like near zero, they begin to act like a quantum.
Speaker 2: We see quantum effects occur to act in one big unison.
Speaker 2: You can watch these fera fluids or some of the
Speaker 2: fun things to watch. But this is the same idea
Speaker 2: as boseionsin contesse. The boseionsin connose begins to act in
Speaker 2: unison and we see these quantum effects occur. So when
Speaker 2: we are trying to cheat and create free energy, almost
Speaker 2: all the concepts are free energy manipulate quantum mechanics because
Speaker 2: in the quantum level, a pendulum never stops. At the
Speaker 2: quantum level, the pendulum is always going back and forth,
Speaker 2: always jiggling, which means there's infinite energy there. So if
Speaker 2: we can somehow scale that up, we can take that
Speaker 2: effect and make it big. Macroscott, there's your free energy.
Speaker 2: So a lot of the best designs that I reviewed
Speaker 2: for microchips and happy that's what they're doing. They're just like, oh,
Speaker 2: we found this crazy quantum effect that never stops, and
Speaker 2: now we're just trying to scale it up.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Anybody have any other questions or anything that you
Speaker 4: wanted to get in or.
Speaker 6: I did have one thing and it maybe it might
Speaker 6: be too long, but I just think for our listeners
Speaker 6: might be interesting. Because I heard you mentioned it recently.
Speaker 6: I think you're even mentioning Peter Teal and so Sam
Speaker 6: Moltman kind of be off in this stuff. Uh, what's
Speaker 6: your thoughts on that. We have our opinion of Peter
Speaker 6: Teel too. It's probably the same thing as you as
Speaker 6: I think you said the anti Christ.
Speaker 2: Well he talks about it's weird, But I mean I
Speaker 2: don't hate the guy. I don't really. He's definitely got
Speaker 2: insider information, you know. So it's like, you know, you
Speaker 2: apply the same stuff that happens to the Congress Congress.
Speaker 2: So like Nancy Pelosi has the best stock market portfolio,
Speaker 2: like there is like seventy percent gains or something like that.
Speaker 2: It's like, obviously she has inside information, right because she's
Speaker 2: connected to people that are in the know. What have you.
Speaker 2: Same thing is true for Peter Thiel. I mean that's
Speaker 2: why he's connected the CIA. He's connected the people that
Speaker 2: know about this technology, and therefore they know where to invest,
Speaker 2: they know what to do. Then in some cases probably
Speaker 2: a backroom, sweetheart handshake deals already in place. And this
Speaker 2: is how the CI controls these people too. If they
Speaker 2: tell you, oh, hey, go invest in heally infusion because
Speaker 2: field diverse configuration fusion is the secret, and they're going
Speaker 2: to be the one that's successful. You go invest all
Speaker 2: your money there. You will be a trillionaire in the future.
Speaker 2: But here's the drawback. Now you've got to do whatever
Speaker 2: we say, right. We own you now. Pretty much. That's
Speaker 2: my opinion of Peter Thiel and all these other people.
Speaker 2: I think they're just complete phonies, and I think they've
Speaker 2: basically just been elevated to this level. I hate that
Speaker 2: we give them status like they're better than other people,
Speaker 2: like their opinion means more than other people, because it
Speaker 2: doesn't doesn't at all. They were basically just selected to
Speaker 2: be that thing. So I don't have a huge amount
Speaker 2: of respect for Peter Teel. And I also don't like
Speaker 2: what Plenteer is doing because I know that Pallenteer is
Speaker 2: basically just taking all the data that's available on the
Speaker 2: Internet about you, and they're making a profile of you.
Speaker 2: Doesn't even have to say your name, and they still
Speaker 2: know who you are. They don't they probably know you
Speaker 2: better than you know you, but they just give it
Speaker 2: some dummy number. And this is how they get around
Speaker 2: privacy violations. And then if the law enforcement, if you
Speaker 2: ever do something illegal, they'll just say, okay, it turns
Speaker 2: out that you know, Aston Forbes was x one, two, three,
Speaker 2: four five. Now they have a whole profile for you.
Speaker 2: Now Palenteer just spits at the law enforcement. They know
Speaker 2: everything you've ever done in your whole life, and they
Speaker 2: have it all package. You're ready to go where you've
Speaker 2: ever lived, everything like that. For a lot of people,
Speaker 2: they would say that's a privacy issue. Absolutely, I mean sure,
Speaker 2: But at the same time, we're not going backwards.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 2: People aren't using the internet less and less. You know,
Speaker 2: that's that's going to happen no matter what. My answer
Speaker 2: to that is, make the tools available for everybody. Let
Speaker 2: the public use those tools. Let the public know what's
Speaker 2: out there about if I search for me what I find.
Speaker 2: That way I can control what I put out there
Speaker 2: and know what's available for peeople, including law enforcement.
Speaker 4: Wells, is that you do want to say something?
Speaker 10: Yeah, just really a quick comment, just going back to
Speaker 10: the I guess the technology you were talking about with
Speaker 10: the missing plane when it disappeared in that the disinformation people,
Speaker 10: the people that are coming out saying that it's fake
Speaker 10: you know, and what have you. Would you think that
Speaker 10: some of these people that are saying that is a
Speaker 10: way of distracting the rest of us from realizing the
Speaker 10: technology of Whammy and that you do have drones that
Speaker 10: do that, do have the ability scale down such a
Speaker 10: small remote sensing viewability so to speak, and that they
Speaker 10: are watching, they are surveilling, that they are collecting all
Speaker 10: this data in real time from these drones with that.
Speaker 10: Forget what you called it, the Groxstair grown stairs, thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that was it.
Speaker 10: It was just more of like a decoy, like, let's
Speaker 10: decoy that it's all fake and it's all aliens versus
Speaker 10: everybody kind of looking the gorkin stair is actually the bigger,
Speaker 10: you know thing.
Speaker 2: I don't like to say, like a lot of people want,
Speaker 2: I only have there be like one answer or what
Speaker 2: have you.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 2: I think aliens are definitely real. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're visiting us, but they're definitely aliens out
Speaker 2: there somewhere. In fact, we might be like their cousins,
Speaker 2: We might be aliens, who knows. I just think it's
Speaker 2: so much more impactful to our society about like free energy, teleportation,
Speaker 2: and then even the surveillance capabilities I had to argue
Speaker 2: are more important than the alien question. Aliens existing, Fine,
Speaker 2: that's not really a big thing for me. Sure you
Speaker 2: know they exist. If they're going to start, you know, interfering,
Speaker 2: then they should start paying taxes or whatever else everybody
Speaker 2: else has to do. But the surveillance capability, they definitely
Speaker 2: don't want people knowing about that surveillance capability. I mean
Speaker 2: that's really advanced, like you're talking DVR capabilities. Because now
Speaker 2: you take what I said just a second of them
Speaker 2: making a profile about you, and by the way, what
Speaker 2: I'm i to tell you they've already done, like we've
Speaker 2: got the videos on it can show them. They combine
Speaker 2: that now with the whammy, and now the AI is
Speaker 2: tracking every moving object on the screen, every movie object
Speaker 2: on the screen, every car, every plane, every person walking
Speaker 2: around is all being tracked by the AI. Now, not
Speaker 2: only do they have a profile of you, they know
Speaker 2: where you've ever been and they can be like, okay,
Speaker 2: pull up last week when Ashton was walking his dog
Speaker 2: out of the park, and then just pull that up
Speaker 2: and just follow you around reversing like that movie The
Speaker 2: Net with Sandra Bullock or Enemy at the State in
Speaker 2: the nineties. Like they've got that. Now that's the stuff
Speaker 2: that's scary. Now for now, I think that we're somewhat
Speaker 2: safe from that until the drones are flying above the cities.
Speaker 2: But in the riots and things like that, the drones
Speaker 2: were flying above the cities and they were doing that.
Speaker 2: It's not like that data goes away. They've got that forever.
Speaker 2: And it's not like they were just limited to the
Speaker 2: one little area. Either they've got the one hundred square
Speaker 2: kilometers or something like that minimum. It's a whole city
Speaker 2: they're covering with these drones. So yeah, I definitely think
Speaker 2: there's a big risk there. And then the next step is, Okay,
Speaker 2: they were doing this on a drone in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: that was eleven years ago. Have they figured out how
Speaker 2: to put it on the satellites or like Starlink satellites
Speaker 2: for example, and now do that same idea, but with
Speaker 2: satellites where they don't even have to have a drone.
Speaker 2: That's the next level. And I would be surprised if
Speaker 2: they don't have that now.
Speaker 8: Well, as long as we don't know about it, then
Speaker 8: they can use it for infinite social engineering, you know,
Speaker 8: because it's not just about what they can get one
Speaker 8: person to do, is how can they link all this
Speaker 8: behavior together in a certain direction using you know, maybe
Speaker 8: household objects that are all connected to the Internet.
Speaker 2: Absolutely everything that's a sensor is probably feeding into Palenteer.
Speaker 2: I would look at it like that, you know, that's
Speaker 2: the way of the world. There's not going to be
Speaker 2: very much privacy in the future for sure. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just don't know. There's not much. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: it's a good or bad. I'm just saying it is
Speaker 2: what it is. The best we can do is probably
Speaker 2: be aware of it, you know, be aware of what
Speaker 2: they're doing on that front. That's why those videos were
Speaker 2: so important, is they exposed this whammy capability, this whammy
Speaker 2: capability that you can see where that's going to lead to,
Speaker 2: and it gives us some context to understand it. But
Speaker 2: whereas before no one even knew what that was. It
Speaker 2: also tells us Man they have a lot of surveillance
Speaker 2: when it comes to their covert operations, and it also
Speaker 2: shows that must be a covert operation. I mean that
Speaker 2: drone is one hundred square kilometers is big, but that's
Speaker 2: in the middle of the ocean. They don't have drones
Speaker 2: everywhere on the planet, you know, So that meant they
Speaker 2: were ready for that thing to go down. They were
Speaker 2: ready for that to happen. They had two drones recording
Speaker 2: it from two different angles. So the scary part there
Speaker 2: is like, oh, man, we're doing some sketchy black operations
Speaker 2: with this technology, with this surveillance capability that I guarantee
Speaker 2: they have some legal justification for what they did. But
Speaker 2: if that comes out to the public, screw your legal justification.
Speaker 2: Your legal justification is, oh, well, it killed ninety percent
Speaker 2: of innocent, but we got the ten percent that we wanted,
Speaker 2: so it's okay. Public's not going.
Speaker 4: To buy that.
Speaker 7: You know, Hey, Ashen, I was taken a lot of
Speaker 7: notes that you was talking about, but one thing that
Speaker 7: caught my attention is that you said that we got
Speaker 7: this information is technology from somewhere.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 4: You mentioned the.
Speaker 7: Word aliens a lot, and you mentioned, you know, you know,
Speaker 7: the craft that can go underwater and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: I'm really big on the Anona slash to Ananaki. I
Speaker 7: know if you've heard of them plenty of times, and
Speaker 7: a lot of people will say that they came from
Speaker 7: a planet named nib, that orbits are son every thirty
Speaker 7: six hundred years. Well, their actual texts, their cuneiform texts,
Speaker 7: and their depictions actually say that they came from the
Speaker 7: depths of the sea. I've shared the resources for that
Speaker 7: so many different times, and it's just interesting that you
Speaker 7: said that their technology will probably be better underwater than
Speaker 7: it would be in space, and that makes more of
Speaker 7: an idea of Uh, there is something that has to
Speaker 7: do with our water that's giving us this disability. And
Speaker 7: a case in point is incy slash Ea. He came
Speaker 7: from the deaths of the seas to give humans technology
Speaker 7: and information and so on and so forth. So you know,
Speaker 7: I wonder you know because you said that nobody has
Speaker 7: ever been able to debunk you and say that that
Speaker 7: your information is wrong, and you've been able to counter
Speaker 7: everything that they've said that they've brought to you in
Speaker 7: so many different ways. I'm that kind of that way
Speaker 7: with when it comes to ancient texts. If they said
Speaker 7: that the Samerian said something, I want to see where
Speaker 7: they got that information from, so I can be just
Speaker 7: as accurate as they are. And I'm telling you everything
Speaker 7: that I keep hearing right now is something from the
Speaker 7: deaths of the Seas has given us information that we
Speaker 7: possibly are trying to figure out on the easy bases
Speaker 7: up here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not an expert on Anaki, I'm
Speaker 2: familiar with the idea, but I do like it because
Speaker 2: I think that if there is a civilization hiding on
Speaker 2: this planet, it's definitely underwater. I mean, that's the place
Speaker 2: you would hide for sure. With this kind of technology
Speaker 2: being having a civilization underwater is no problem either. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can just make a bubble and you can. You
Speaker 2: have alchemy, you have transmutation, you have everything you need.
Speaker 2: You can make a society anywhere you want. So I
Speaker 2: do like that idea, and I'm very intrigued by the
Speaker 2: lore around like underwater UFO bases and things like that,
Speaker 2: which would surprise me if we do find something down there.
Speaker 2: And I also like the idea of like we are
Speaker 2: the aliens, or we were put here by the aliens
Speaker 2: or something like that, because that's one of the only
Speaker 2: ways where it can kind of make sense where there's
Speaker 2: this hyper advanced technology that doesn't seem like we found
Speaker 2: it organically, where it seems like there was something happening
Speaker 2: to it. And also just just this idea of like,
Speaker 2: if you look at this planet, out of all the
Speaker 2: different species that exist on this planet, billions of species,
Speaker 2: what's the one that sticks out. Oh, it's us. We
Speaker 2: stick out like a sore thumb on this planet. We've
Speaker 2: like reshaped the planet. We have the one of the
Speaker 2: biggest populations if you don't include insects, right, Like, we're
Speaker 2: the ones that stick out the most. We're the ones
Speaker 2: that are like the alien species on this planet. So
Speaker 2: the nanocuping I think is really interesting. And also because
Speaker 2: of how it connects to ancient history and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: whether or not like the Pyramids and stuff like that
Speaker 2: are really as young as they say they are, or
Speaker 2: potentially maybe a lot older, or that there was you know,
Speaker 2: major flooding and things that coincide with the Bible. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of those allow for this option where
Speaker 2: we forgot our history, like something happened and we forgot
Speaker 2: who we really were, Like maybe we were more advanced
Speaker 2: or advanced in more in different ways in the past,
Speaker 2: more than we think now. All those I think are
Speaker 2: just interesting ideas that I think are very possible to
Speaker 2: be real.
Speaker 4: Thankya.
Speaker 6: Don't do anybody else have anything else they wanted to
Speaker 6: ask or bring up before we wrap it up?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, yeah, hell my brain is scrambled.
Speaker 2: Job. Yeah, it's fun you guys are fun. That was cool,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you guys aren't afraid of like you mean,
Speaker 2: if you want to ask me something about debunks and
Speaker 2: things like that too, you know, I just I like
Speaker 2: to answer any questions that are out there. And I'm
Speaker 2: not here to tell you like you know you're saying,
Speaker 2: you know you've debunked all demustle. But yeah, I feel
Speaker 2: like I've given adequate explanations for all the debunks that
Speaker 2: are out there. And I happen to know the videos
Speaker 2: are real, but I understand why people don't believe it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm somebody myself that even if you go
Speaker 2: back like ten years ago, I would add a completely
Speaker 2: different mindset of everything going on in the world. So
Speaker 2: I look at it more of like everybody's kind of
Speaker 2: on their own journey of discovery for the most part. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I'm just trying to like push it along as
Speaker 2: best as I can for the people that are ready, you.
Speaker 4: Know, doing a great job. I think, thank you, sir.
Speaker 6: Uh. Before we wrap it up, I'll have the p
Speaker 6: here just plug their shows again and Lisa, uh, what
Speaker 6: is going on the cult reject mad scientists?
Speaker 12: Thank you so much?
Speaker 10: Oh, sorry, Nick job to tell Ashton that I thought
Speaker 10: this was an amazing presentation. I apologize Nick as amazing
Speaker 10: I've heard, I've heard of you, I've listened to a
Speaker 10: little bit of you.
Speaker 12: It was a very candid interview.
Speaker 10: I thank you for answering all our different questions, and
Speaker 10: you left with like Tyrone was saying, I took so
Speaker 10: many notes, You've left so many seeds to.
Speaker 12: Kind of launch from.
Speaker 10: Thank you again, and thank you fellow rejects for having
Speaker 10: me on and letting me interrupt again as usual. The
Speaker 10: only thing I'd like to plug is a cult research
Speaker 10: Institute dot org. We have a couple of rejects that
Speaker 10: contribute to that website in literary form. If you'd like
Speaker 10: to check us out a cult Research Institute dot org.
Speaker 10: And if you'd like to get a hold of me
Speaker 10: through Twitter, Solese Lisa is the best place.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you very much, and we got the
Speaker 4: Hello's giant Well.
Speaker 8: I don't want to leave the audience not having a
Speaker 8: complete or near complete list of authors that you would
Speaker 8: recommend for them to read up on so that they
Speaker 8: can get on the same level of knowledge that you
Speaker 8: have right now. So if you could give the people
Speaker 8: a quick list, or you know, maybe a long list
Speaker 8: of the authors you've read that have led you here.
Speaker 8: That would be perfect.
Speaker 2: I don't really have a list ready, but I mean
Speaker 2: start with hal put Off, Tom Bearden, Eric W. Davis.
Speaker 2: Those are probably the first three to start with, the
Speaker 2: reason being that help put Off and Eric Davis are
Speaker 2: both alive still. Eric Davis is testifying at these UFO
Speaker 2: whistleblower conferences, but he's written papers on teleportation for the
Speaker 2: Air Force. I mean, the disconnect is insane. So that's
Speaker 2: where I would start with those guys papers, the ones
Speaker 2: and hal Putoff's when I mentioned earlier, gravity is a
Speaker 2: zero point fluctuation force, and even if you're somebody that's
Speaker 2: not deep in physics, okay, we'll have the AI interpret
Speaker 2: it for you and explain it to you in a
Speaker 2: way that you can understand, you know, And that's that's
Speaker 2: where you start. Nobody starts understanding everything perfectly right away.
Speaker 2: So those are probably the first three that I would
Speaker 2: start with, and then from there I would say move
Speaker 2: into the durds, the Defense Intelligence Reference documents. Eric Davis
Speaker 2: wrote six of them, actually, and hal Putoff wrote one
Speaker 2: as well, And that's where you'll begin to find some
Speaker 2: of these other engineers and scientists like John Kramer and
Speaker 2: Fredert Winnenberg that I mentioned, including Paul SiZ Is another
Speaker 2: guy that I liked that wrote the papers on megnetohydrodynamics
Speaker 2: for propulsion, and I think he wrote the a neutronic
Speaker 2: propulsion fusion propulsion paper too. So all these concepts are
Speaker 2: all peer reviewed scientific papers. They've been written by you know,
Speaker 2: PhDs and Black project engineers that are out there. So
Speaker 2: one more time, the DURDS Defense Intelligence Reference Documents, they
Speaker 2: were declassified slash like released via FOYA back in my
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, but they were the most popular scientific papers
Speaker 2: on the Pentagon's like secret air Gap server for a
Speaker 2: number of years before that. So that's where I recommend
Speaker 2: checking those out. Everything you see in those papers is
Speaker 2: is real.
Speaker 4: Nice. Good question, helis, did you want to plug your
Speaker 4: show Headless? Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, you can find my show on Thursday nights. We
Speaker 8: uh look at your mail. If it has something to
Speaker 8: do with a paranormal or an interesting dream that you've
Speaker 8: had or stuff like that, you can find me on
Speaker 8: YouTube and uh yeah, so check out the Headless Giant
Speaker 8: podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4: If you have those stories. Thank you awesome, Thank you
Speaker 4: very much. And Sarah, what is going on?
Speaker 2: I will you I'm good.
Speaker 9: That was an excellent presentation and I like that it
Speaker 9: was put in a way that I could mostly understand it.
Speaker 9: I'm also from the South, so I'm a little slow,
Speaker 9: like you said, and I just want to plug the
Speaker 9: Institute for Natural Philosophy as well as our magazine. You
Speaker 9: can see that at Institute for Naturalphilosophy dot org. And
Speaker 9: I would also like to plug our podcast Universe Unveiled.
Speaker 4: Awesome, Thank you very much.
Speaker 7: And Tyron, Yeah, that was an excellent presentation. I took
Speaker 7: a lot of note some and be hitting you up
Speaker 7: in the future. Everything you can find on me is
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Speaker 7: love orbs. I actually have a video of an ORB
Speaker 7: from my greencam that I'll show you. I'll send it
Speaker 7: to you whatnot. But yeah, this is definitely amazing everybody.
Speaker 7: I appreciate everybody for letting me be here. Nick, thanks
Speaker 7: for letting me be here.
Speaker 4: Man of course, of course, no, thank you for joining
Speaker 4: us and last been not at least doc. What is
Speaker 4: going on, sir? Not much?
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm ninety three percent sure He's connected a lot
Speaker 3: of dots from me today and gave me some puzzle
Speaker 3: pieces to contemplate on. So I thank you for your
Speaker 3: time and research, ash and I really enjoyed myself today.
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Thank you much, Zach, I always appreciate
Speaker 4: you here.
Speaker 6: And finally, Austin, I'm pretty sure everybody knows who you
Speaker 6: are already, but if they don't, please let them know
Speaker 6: where they can find all your amazing work and anything
Speaker 6: again you want.
Speaker 2: To, Yeah, check me out ad just x, Ashton all
Speaker 2: social media's guys YouTube. You can find all my stuff
Speaker 2: there x very active on X and check out everybody
Speaker 2: else's content that was on this awesome panel. Guys. Thank
Speaker 2: you for having me, No, no, for sure, thank you.
Speaker 4: Definitely go check out his twitter.
Speaker 6: That man is on fire, so yeah, definitely check it out,
Speaker 6: and again, thank you all, for making the show. I
Speaker 6: really appreciate you all putting the time aside and coming on.
Speaker 6: I really had some awesome questions and thank you all
Speaker 6: and everybody in the chat. There was just too many
Speaker 6: for me to even put it up on the screen anymore,
Speaker 6: but thank you everybody that was here.
Speaker 4: It was a great time.
Speaker 6: And that is the end of another Recult Rejects and
Speaker 6: until the next one, everybody be will well later.
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