Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out Going Deeper.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show
Speaker 1: planned for you tonight. You'll know my guest tonight from
Speaker 1: her appearances on such websitesests Swallowing Angels dot com and
Speaker 1: Mommyblowsbest dot com. You find links to all of her
Speaker 1: social media in the episode description, and I want to
Speaker 1: recommend you check out our only fans at Ophelia con
Speaker 1: Is that how we say it? Con ten Ophelia to
Speaker 1: con ten on only fans again? Links to everything in
Speaker 1: the episode of Christian Ladies and Gentlemen join me and
Speaker 1: welcoming the alluring Ophelia con Aphelia. How are you tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1: I am not bad, I'm pretty pretty good. Can you
Speaker 1: give me a brief entrance into the adult entertainment Can
Speaker 1: you give me? Can you give me your entrance into
Speaker 1: the adult entertainment industry? And what that was like for you?
Speaker 1: Did you decide when you were young? Did you always
Speaker 1: have a passion for this or were you just like
Speaker 1: you only live once?
Speaker 2: Uh So, when I was younger, I was very very shy,
Speaker 2: so I could I thought about it a little bit,
Speaker 2: and as I got older, I thought about maybe camming,
Speaker 2: but still super shy. It wasn't until I got older
Speaker 2: I got breast implants that I started to feel a
Speaker 2: little bit more confident with myself. Sure, so then it
Speaker 2: was so then I slowly got more confident with myself
Speaker 2: in like my thirties and started I think I started
Speaker 2: camming maybe or in my late thirties, okay, And then
Speaker 2: from there before and then I started doing like fetish
Speaker 2: modeling and stuff and bonded shoots, and then I also
Speaker 2: led to me starting four One then kind of leads
Speaker 2: to another, just so you can get enough work all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: It's snowball snow pun intended. What I was going to
Speaker 1: ask is why do you wait so long? Not that
Speaker 1: it's a bad thing, but why did you wait so long?
Speaker 1: Did you the confidence? I understand that, But like, had
Speaker 1: you watch porn before and seen that there were girls
Speaker 1: that look like you all over the place anyway? Or
Speaker 1: did you only just see the girls with the larger
Speaker 1: breasts and everything like that.
Speaker 2: I always saw the girls get the larger breast, and
Speaker 2: it's so funny. It wasn't until after I got the
Speaker 2: breast and plants and started porn that I realized that
Speaker 2: how many girls have smaller breasts, but those are normally
Speaker 2: like the younger girls, they want.
Speaker 3: To keep them like petite, kind of small.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then as they get milk, then they all get
Speaker 2: the breast and plants. But I but my memory younger,
Speaker 2: like in my twenties, was thinking, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 2: need bigger breasts.
Speaker 1: You know what, though the industry at the time might
Speaker 1: have been you know, nowadays, you're right because because let
Speaker 1: me go on Twitter and see how many tattooed models
Speaker 1: I can find, which twenty years ago was like, oh,
Speaker 1: put her in a crazy scene over there because we
Speaker 1: can't have her front center, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What kind of So the very first thing you did,
Speaker 1: you said, I'm sorry, I apologize camming, right, Yes, what
Speaker 1: kind of was there an anxiety or total excitement?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a little bit of anxiety every night. But
Speaker 2: it's so different when you're doing it like online than
Speaker 2: when it's in person. Right, Yeah, And it was kind
Speaker 2: of fun because I started right before the pandemic. I started,
Speaker 2: so I was also camming during the pandemic and it
Speaker 2: was nice because I could get be social.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you started before the pandemic. Did
Speaker 1: you notice like a huge boom while the pandemic was happening.
Speaker 2: So the funny thing is is I always started like
Speaker 2: two months before the pandemic.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's when I bought a car.
Speaker 1: I literally bought a car as two months before I
Speaker 1: was going to be working from home full time. And
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, four years later and I have like
Speaker 1: twenty two thousand miles on it and say, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe I should take more fucking day trips. So the
Speaker 1: the pandemic really screwed all of us up in a sense.
Speaker 1: But did you have obviously all camp performers have boom
Speaker 1: and bus nights, but did you have one boom night
Speaker 1: where you were just like, Yeah, this could work. I mean,
Speaker 1: this could be a job that I could really dedicate
Speaker 1: to and improve and make better.
Speaker 2: You know. Uh, you know there're the sighters on and
Speaker 2: by others they were the first night you're on, they
Speaker 2: actually drive more traffic to you. I think sure. Uh.
Speaker 2: And so my first night there, I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, this could work, you know, because I had
Speaker 2: so many people in my room. I think I almost
Speaker 2: had nightmares. About it afterwards because I was not expecting
Speaker 2: it to be so busy and then it slowed down, okay,
Speaker 2: and then it could then it would pick up and
Speaker 2: go down. But at the time, I mean, actually, I
Speaker 2: still I thought about going back to camming a lot.
Speaker 2: It's fun. Yeah, But to answer your question, I think
Speaker 2: it just kind of started off that way. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe sure.
Speaker 3: Were you always like a very sexual person in your life?
Speaker 2: Ye Oh yeah, I was very sexual, but I wanted
Speaker 2: it to be I wanted to be the good girl
Speaker 2: and have the relationship and you know, having to all
Speaker 2: be the way society tells you to have it. So
Speaker 2: then I decided that I was sick of always being
Speaker 2: in like relationship after relationship and I had given up
Speaker 2: on the whole marriage with kids thing. And so then
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I could do poorn and then
Speaker 2: I could get then I can get lad. And I
Speaker 2: was so sexually satisfied when I did the camming. It's funny.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, for the first time
Speaker 2: in my life, I was sexually satisfying.
Speaker 1: That's great. And that because from an outside perspective, I
Speaker 1: look at it and be like, like, I understand you
Speaker 1: can you know, the guy on the other side can
Speaker 1: be jerking off and you could be playing with yourself
Speaker 1: and doing whatever, but you were actually like satisfied as
Speaker 1: if you were with a relationship type partner doing camming
Speaker 1: is what you're saying, right, yeah, kind of. I mean
Speaker 1: it's a sense of community at least, right.
Speaker 2: It is a sense of community.
Speaker 1: Sure. Then did you have regulars who would come in
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, doing Jim? How's Jim today?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like that moderate my room. I actually
Speaker 2: have two people they helped me from the very beginning.
Speaker 2: They still check in with me every once in a
Speaker 2: while on my only fans and send me a message
Speaker 2: to see how I'm doing. They're very kind.
Speaker 3: Oh now, not meaning any offense.
Speaker 1: Have they moved on to other Is this a service
Speaker 1: they provide where maybe they start new girls off rolling
Speaker 1: and then whatever.
Speaker 3: Because that would be fun if that was their job.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were just like fans that they just helped, Like,
Speaker 2: just came into my room. I needed moderators. They would
Speaker 2: help me out, and then they just kind of hung around.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have. I'm sure they're still on the
Speaker 2: site helped like helping other performers.
Speaker 3: So your first actual scene that you shot, do you
Speaker 3: remember what that was?
Speaker 1: Yes? What was it?
Speaker 2: But gosh, I don't remember what it was, Paul, Okay
Speaker 2: was it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those I'm sure, yeah, yeah, just
Speaker 1: throw three words together. It's like gorgeous ladies, screw. That's
Speaker 1: a website, I'm sure somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and sometime milked for everything, so you
Speaker 2: have to add the word the milk. The word milf
Speaker 2: is always there.
Speaker 3: Milf ladies, screw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. That's our new website. Me and
Speaker 1: Aphelia con uh oh.
Speaker 3: What uh?
Speaker 1: What I was going to ask is what was that
Speaker 1: was at a traditional boy girl scene that you went into.
Speaker 2: It was we started off like in the car and
Speaker 2: then we went to uh like the location. Sure, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just like a gonzo scene, so straight to
Speaker 2: funk with the premise that you know, it's my first time,
Speaker 2: which it was. So that's the whole background story a bit,
Speaker 2: the first time doing a professional porn and it was great.
Speaker 2: It was really fun. The guy was very nice. The
Speaker 2: producers were so kind, the best producers I have, like
Speaker 2: they're used to working with newer people. Sure, So they
Speaker 2: like they know how to make sure that you're comfortable
Speaker 2: and have like everything laid out for you, like you know,
Speaker 2: picking up at the airport and doing this, and like
Speaker 2: everything's all set up for you. It's so easy and relaxed.
Speaker 2: They're really good.
Speaker 1: I do a side show where I introduce side show.
Speaker 1: Sounds like freak show to me, so not quite that.
Speaker 1: But I do a separate show where I interview new
Speaker 1: performers who are coming into the industry. Maybe they have
Speaker 1: eighty Twitter followers, you know, but they have an only
Speaker 1: fans and they want to get started, and I've heard
Speaker 1: so many horror stories about them being One girl I interviewed,
Speaker 1: she was eighteen years old, So if you can imagine
Speaker 1: what you and I were like at eighteen years old
Speaker 1: and not I don't want to use the word dumb,
Speaker 1: but every eighteen year old is dumber than every twenty
Speaker 1: five year old for the most part, Like we just
Speaker 1: are immature is probably the better word to use.
Speaker 2: There enough life experiences to know that not everybody has
Speaker 2: your best interest in mind.
Speaker 1: Sure, So I interviewed this girl and she told me
Speaker 1: one time she booked a shoot on one of the
Speaker 1: online things, probably sexy jobs or something like that, and
Speaker 1: was from Minnesota, showed up in Florida, paid for her
Speaker 1: own ticket, paid for the ride, stood outside the hotel
Speaker 1: and said, I'm ready to shoot the scene. Could you
Speaker 1: let me know what hotel number it is?
Speaker 3: Ghosted?
Speaker 1: No response, And I've heard those stories and I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: that guy. I don't I want to use the term
Speaker 1: execute it, but if you know, we don't need people
Speaker 1: like that in this industry or quite frankly world to
Speaker 1: trick an eighteen year old girl. So what makes us
Speaker 1: at comfortable or a booking or anything anything. What makes
Speaker 1: it comfortable? What makes it uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: So there's a couple different kinds of agents. I started
Speaker 2: off with somebody that kind of like scouted me out
Speaker 2: a couple of years prior, and so i'd been so
Speaker 2: I had been thinking about it for a couple of years.
Speaker 2: So I finally after he like wrote me a random
Speaker 2: message on that life, he's like anyway, I wrote him
Speaker 2: back and he's not like license and insured, but he
Speaker 2: did help me get a couple good scenes with good people.
Speaker 2: And then from there I wanted like an actual agent.
Speaker 2: I highly recommend if you're new to do the agent
Speaker 2: okay because they have your Now, not all agents are
Speaker 2: as good as other ones, right, you know, but and
Speaker 2: they all have their downsides, but it's they it's probably
Speaker 2: way safer, like because I've also worked where I can
Speaker 2: do certain agents let you do your own bookings and
Speaker 2: then they also help you get bookings. And some are
Speaker 2: more strict about the whole booking process and they just
Speaker 2: booking for you. But I've had it where it's kind
Speaker 2: of lax. So I've been able to also do off
Speaker 2: sexy jobs and it is a little bit more sketch
Speaker 2: all there. Yeah, I mean I've gone to work and
Speaker 2: I've you know, things have all turned out fine for me. Good.
Speaker 2: I definitely sometimes, you know, worry about like the younger girls,
Speaker 2: because it's very different.
Speaker 1: I I that's kind of my intention, And it's not
Speaker 1: like some fucking you know, white night being like I
Speaker 1: just I just don't like anyone being taken advantage of, honestly,
Speaker 1: and younger women being taken advantage of is like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's right up there is the worst thing
Speaker 1: other than I guess kids would be pretty bad too.
Speaker 1: So so what can what can a new girl do
Speaker 1: to get an agent? Because You're one of the first
Speaker 1: people that I've actually interviewed that has brought up their
Speaker 1: agent or using an agent. So if I'm some gorgeous
Speaker 1: eighteen year old girl, you know, great body, I am
Speaker 1: committed to this. I decide I really want to do this.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go to college. I'm going to
Speaker 1: concentrate on producing content and whatever. How do I get
Speaker 1: an agent? Is it body shots from all angles with
Speaker 1: an email with a nice letter?
Speaker 3: Is it build my following first? And then do that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What do you think it's like?
Speaker 2: So what I did is I just google like top agencies, sure,
Speaker 2: and then I sent them all actually had one producer help.
Speaker 2: It gave me some name drops of good agents too.
Speaker 2: But and THENY just kind of asked for Sometimes they
Speaker 2: don't even want you to be really wearing makeup, just
Speaker 2: like nude, like front view, back to your side view. Sure,
Speaker 2: and then they'll go from there. They might check out
Speaker 2: your They probably do check out your following. And I
Speaker 2: don't know how big of a deal it is. I
Speaker 2: didn't have a huge Twitter following at that time. Okay,
Speaker 2: but then if they like your look, they're always looking
Speaker 2: for new girls, sure, especially and I'm especially sure that
Speaker 2: I think it's I don't know, like I think there's
Speaker 2: probably more sites for the younger women. I don't know
Speaker 2: for sure, but they're always looking for new faces. There's
Speaker 2: always you can always get at least a couple shoots
Speaker 2: that are just based on the fact that you're branding.
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said there by the way,
Speaker 1: that all makes sense, but I wouldn't not that you are,
Speaker 1: because obviously it was the route you would went. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't discourage either people from looking at it later
Speaker 1: in life with all the new milf stuff that I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm drowning in milf stuff. So if you are a
Speaker 1: woman in your thirties or you can only do it,
Speaker 1: look into it, try it, you know, look if you
Speaker 1: were you know. The funniest thing is you can be
Speaker 1: like the if I don't want to say, you can
Speaker 1: be an unattractive person and there will I am, And
Speaker 1: there's still a niche for you in this industry.
Speaker 3: Okay, there is there is.
Speaker 1: I will say what I find attractive or under but
Speaker 1: I mean, you do have you just have to work.
Speaker 1: It seems like to me is the thing you have
Speaker 1: to be willing to put in the time.
Speaker 2: Social media, and yeah, it's a lot of hard work,
Speaker 2: but you can definitely get a couple of shoots that
Speaker 2: are easy. And yeah, definitely, I'm happy that I got
Speaker 2: into it when I was older because I have background
Speaker 2: job experience, so I don't feel I First of all,
Speaker 2: I can appreciate the money I'm getting because I'm used
Speaker 2: to getting paid far less for that amount of time,
Speaker 2: for sure. But I can appreciate and have a sense
Speaker 2: of perspective on what you make in the real world.
Speaker 2: And I have skill set that I can go back
Speaker 2: to or that I still I still have, like an
Speaker 2: outside job. I shall just kind of do whatever I
Speaker 2: can to work, because find the fuck not. I'm in
Speaker 2: La you have to work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in New Jersey. I have to work too.
Speaker 3: So I mean, you know, it's ewhere.
Speaker 1: It's becoming a trend, this goddamn work thing, and I
Speaker 1: will not have it. We're gonna take a break and
Speaker 1: then I have a game for you, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk some more. Ladies and gentlemen. Aphelia Cohn make
Speaker 1: sure you check out her only fans. Aphelia con Ten
Speaker 1: links to everything in the episode description. As always, we
Speaker 1: will be right back.
Speaker 3: All right, and we're back.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: My guest tonight, Aphelia Khn.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out her only fans at Aphelia
Speaker 1: content and follow across all social media links to everything
Speaker 1: in the episode description. As always, Aphelia, are you ready
Speaker 1: to play your first game today?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, great, it's called lud Letters, Aphelia. Let me give
Speaker 1: you the rules for lud letters. I'm going to give
Speaker 1: you some short questions and then you just give me
Speaker 1: the answer. Okay, here's the easy part. There's no correct answer,
Speaker 1: so as long as you say something, you get a point. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me give you an example. Name a car company,
Speaker 1: or okay, name a type of computer man.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Here's the shitty part.
Speaker 1: Your answers have to begin with a randomly selected letter,
Speaker 1: so everything you say can only be that letter. If
Speaker 1: you've ever played the game's categories. I stole this game
Speaker 1: from s categories, so prior to the show, a letter
Speaker 1: was randomly selected for you. Your letter is D, as
Speaker 1: in dog. Okay, all of your answers must begin with
Speaker 1: the letter D. You will have and I know this
Speaker 1: is pretty cool that I did this sixty nine seconds
Speaker 1: on the clock. That's not hack or annoying or anything
Speaker 1: at all. And you'll have sixty seconds to try and
Speaker 1: get ten questions right. Don't worry. It's incredibly difficult. So
Speaker 1: if you don't get a ton you're fine. I got
Speaker 1: about three when I tried this with my wife. So
Speaker 1: if you're all right with it, let's begin. Let's try
Speaker 1: and play lude letters. All right, so let me set
Speaker 1: my timer here. You have one minute and nine seconds
Speaker 1: on the clock. Okay, yes, the timer will start after
Speaker 1: I finished the first question.
Speaker 3: Can you guy us a little bit more?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 1: Oh, also I should say you can pass it anytime.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to it. Ok fair enough, okay three? Two?
Speaker 1: Name a sex position or act. Name something to drink.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to it, yes, okay, Name a body
Speaker 1: part to come on? Okay? A female name.
Speaker 2: Drew?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Uh. Name a porn website ksters dot okay, sure.
Speaker 1: Name a fashion brand.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that'll never.
Speaker 3: Get okay, dickies is fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something you like about a male performer they're Name
Speaker 1: a food brand ten seconds left, okay, the name of
Speaker 1: a celebrity you'd fuck.
Speaker 2: Two there, Dennis out there?
Speaker 1: Uh, Dennis uh Den squaide Dennis Hoffman, Right, No, I
Speaker 1: think it's Hoffman. Dustin Hoffman. You were way okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Dustin d Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Last question was going to be make up a porn title.
Speaker 1: I am there, you go, perfect three? Throw a number
Speaker 1: at the end. There's a formula, dick Fucker's three. Okay. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have performers compete without realizing it by playing
Speaker 1: the things simultaneously, so for a tie breaker. According to
Speaker 1: I a f d dot com, the Internet Adult Film
Speaker 1: Database as of this recording, how many male performers have
Speaker 1: you worked with? It has seen pairings for everyone you've
Speaker 1: worked with on mainstream, not so much like OnlyFans private show.
Speaker 3: So this is twenty that's your guess twenty sure, okay.
Speaker 1: We'll do whoever I like. I don't know, Go ahead,
Speaker 1: I take your guess. Forty thirty eight, very very close,
Speaker 1: incredibly close. Uh So when we talk about that, what
Speaker 1: do you look for in I mean, I guess it's
Speaker 1: as work comes along, you take it. But is there
Speaker 1: something specific you look for in a scene partner that
Speaker 1: you know you'll have a connection with them or be
Speaker 1: able to make this scene special.
Speaker 2: Well, if I know they have an animal, then I
Speaker 2: know it's like a cat. But usually most men don't
Speaker 2: have cats. So I can connect with a lot of
Speaker 2: people pretty I feel like I can connect with people
Speaker 2: pretty easy. It's only hard if, like I get on
Speaker 2: set and they're very preoccupied with their own life because
Speaker 2: something's going on, which I understand we all have those
Speaker 2: moment It just makes it a little harder. But normally
Speaker 2: I can connect really well with people. Sometimes the connection
Speaker 2: might be a little harder if it's multiple people on
Speaker 2: set because then and I think even like couples who
Speaker 2: bring in a third sometimes have a hard time divving
Speaker 2: up the energy between everybody. But yeah, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's not so hard. It's pretty easy for me to
Speaker 2: find something.
Speaker 1: To connect with connect So you do have to connect
Speaker 1: on a not have to, but you do prefer to
Speaker 1: connect on like a personal level with someone. This is
Speaker 1: seems yeah, a little bit, at least it seems to
Speaker 1: me that it for some people. I understand it's a
Speaker 1: business for sure, but it is a very personal business.
Speaker 1: And like you would, I fucking have hated working in
Speaker 1: offices with guys I don't like I can't imagine them
Speaker 1: fucking me and me just being like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't have a no list. If there's somebody
Speaker 2: that you really don't want to work with, you can
Speaker 2: do that. I only I don't really have a no list.
Speaker 1: I was just about to make a joke and go
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna go down. Ophelia is no list
Speaker 1: and she's gonna name people one by one now, So
Speaker 1: you don't do you have again, I would never ask
Speaker 1: it identified, But do you have performers in your head
Speaker 1: that you're like, I don't think i'd work with that guy?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I I'd be total there's a
Speaker 2: total difference between like would I seek them out for
Speaker 2: an only fans or am I gonna make a great
Speaker 2: scene with them? Because we're both getting paid on set?
Speaker 1: Gotcha?
Speaker 2: So there's nobody that even there's nobody that can think
Speaker 2: of that. I'd be like, no, I'm not gonna put
Speaker 2: my best in a scene with. But there are people
Speaker 2: that I wouldn't necessarily do only fans with.
Speaker 3: Makes sense to me, makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: So your own personal type of content, you do, produce
Speaker 1: your own content, right, and what kind of stuff do
Speaker 1: you like producing? Like what is your passion when it
Speaker 1: comes to that? What is something where you go I
Speaker 1: could just make that scene every day and I'd be
Speaker 1: totally cool with it. Is it a specific natchu or
Speaker 1: a type or is it just you like making movies?
Speaker 2: I kind of like one I do like I have to.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I have to do ones that have
Speaker 2: like this a scenario, so and I don't or I
Speaker 2: and then since I'm older, there's a lot of like
Speaker 2: I do better if I do like the younger guy thing.
Speaker 2: So I guess, but I kind of like doing a
Speaker 2: variation of like like, uh, maybe my son's best friend
Speaker 2: or I did. I did a little series where it
Speaker 2: was mom's dominant son, so my son was very like dominant.
Speaker 2: So I was like, so it was kind of like
Speaker 2: a play because normally you want your mom your the
Speaker 2: mother figures the dominant one for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, role reversal for sure.
Speaker 2: Yea yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So with something like that, though, was he okay, I've
Speaker 1: only recently learned this second term. Was he more dominant
Speaker 1: in that scene or more Braddy in that scene?
Speaker 3: Because the go ahead here's definitely more dominant.
Speaker 2: So we were at the to he like does more
Speaker 2: of the dominant DS type stuff, and I needed some
Speaker 2: more like steps on stuff, so we like made it
Speaker 2: work for each other.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, how do you how do you organize
Speaker 1: online collaborations with people? Are you looking for someone in
Speaker 1: your state where you are locally as close as pot?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, wait, are you in La?
Speaker 2: I am in La.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's easier than if you were in Georgia,
Speaker 1: I would assume to get collaborators.
Speaker 2: No easier, Yes, yeah. When I started, I was not
Speaker 2: in La, and I definitely I just didn't hit. I
Speaker 2: waited until I got to La to do stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I guess you could take trips and this
Speaker 1: and that, but you would really have to not that
Speaker 1: you did, but just a person could. You'd really have
Speaker 1: to like organize it and lay it out beforehand, like
Speaker 1: this scene, this day, this blah blah blah blahh Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So many I just so many people don't
Speaker 1: realize how much of a job it actually is, how
Speaker 1: much admin work goes behind it. I sit and I
Speaker 1: talk to you about this, and there's I was up
Speaker 1: till four in the morning. Like doing admin work setting
Speaker 1: this all up.
Speaker 2: So yep, the editing and the just uploading uploading.
Speaker 1: Time, it's no, you know what, I half love uploading
Speaker 1: time because that means I can kind of just like
Speaker 1: close my eyes for a little bit. It's the when
Speaker 1: you have an error somewhere and you go, how the.
Speaker 3: Fuck do I fix this? My voice sounds like a robot.
Speaker 1: What do I do?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 3: Just figure it out? Figure it out?
Speaker 1: Guys? What did you do before you got into porn?
Speaker 1: Was office work or was it? You don't have to
Speaker 1: give details, obviously.
Speaker 2: Customer service?
Speaker 1: Okay, what's wrong with customer service nowadays? Oh gosh, I'm
Speaker 1: not asking if yet. No, no, no, no, you're not wrong. No,
Speaker 1: you're not wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm so sick and tired of it.
Speaker 1: I worked at customer service for seven years, right slinging
Speaker 1: fucking computers at best Buy. I'm the rudest, foulest mouth
Speaker 1: sailor you'll ever meet in your life. It was nothing
Speaker 1: but polite to people all the time. Oh yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I can help you with that. Not a problem, Oh sir,
Speaker 1: would you you know? Do you need this? Ma'am?
Speaker 3: Can I help you? Can I lift that for you?
Speaker 2: Da?
Speaker 1: Da da da da. Nowadays, if I like, don't tip
Speaker 1: twenty five percent, people give me looks like I just
Speaker 1: spit in their face.
Speaker 3: Are we just all miserable?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Except for me and you on this call?
Speaker 2: Because I'm feeling old, I've always done twenty.
Speaker 1: I go, let's put it this way for a meal
Speaker 1: that costs one hundred bucks, I'm gonna tip twenty five
Speaker 1: percent for a meal that costs ten thousand. I'm going
Speaker 1: to try and get out the back door, but or
Speaker 1: give up my back door. Whatever, we'll pay this bill.
Speaker 1: I'll be fine with it. Yes, thank you. It's not even.
Speaker 1: But here's the worst thing. It's not even the percentages.
Speaker 1: It's at some places where like the work is kind
Speaker 1: of the work. Like I went to like a sandwich
Speaker 1: shop the other day and they made a sandwich for
Speaker 1: me and cut it and put it in the bag,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, how much do you want to tip?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, yeah, I just have that.
Speaker 2: It's like yeah that.
Speaker 1: And like the no tip thing is in red and
Speaker 1: let's off a siren when you press it to let
Speaker 1: them know you're cheap, son of a bitch.
Speaker 3: I hate that.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with customer service now, and also how do
Speaker 1: you apply quote unquote good customer service to things like
Speaker 1: if you do custom videos or messages on only fans
Speaker 1: or anything like that, Like, are your quote unquote fans
Speaker 1: your customers in this sense as important to you as
Speaker 1: anyone else.
Speaker 2: I am horrible at customs. I should not be saying
Speaker 2: how bad I am an only fans while promoting my
Speaker 2: only fans. I try really hard. Sometimes I just haven't
Speaker 2: been in the groove of making videos lately. I have
Speaker 2: to get back into it. It's very helpful. So I
Speaker 2: have perhaps upset one or two people saying that I
Speaker 2: do not do custom videos. Okay, I have in the past,
Speaker 2: but personally many bits I prefer customer so many bits.
Speaker 2: It's quite easier, sure, but anyway, I try to be
Speaker 2: as polite as possible. I don't know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: they are a customer.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah. Yeah. At the end of that, do you
Speaker 1: like engaging with them? Or I know that's probably not
Speaker 1: the best thing to say either, because what are you
Speaker 1: going to say? No, not at all.
Speaker 3: I'm like, huh, so you do, but are there respond.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, I totally understand. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to respond either when people met as
Speaker 1: oh you should interview this group, it's like, hey, if
Speaker 1: I I would, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would love.
Speaker 1: Do you have a direct connection to her, Call her up,
Speaker 1: tell her to come on my show. I'm more than
Speaker 1: happy to me up here, help me out here. Did
Speaker 1: you ever get when you did do custom videos? Did
Speaker 1: you ever have any requests that were so fucking out
Speaker 1: there that you were just like, dude, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if that's legal in this country.
Speaker 3: I can't do that.
Speaker 2: I had one that I had to say no to.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I'm going to put it into one or
Speaker 1: two categories of what I think it is. It's either
Speaker 1: and I'm looking away from you to not give an indication,
Speaker 1: it's either.
Speaker 3: A weird age play thing or a shit thing.
Speaker 2: Weird age play mixed a little bit of like ray Penis.
Speaker 1: Okay, was it?
Speaker 2: It literally wasn't. It's something I could like. Even if
Speaker 2: I wanted to do it, I couldn't have done it.
Speaker 2: It was totally against terms of service.
Speaker 3: Sure sure.
Speaker 1: My former co host his wife as an only fan,
Speaker 1: and one of the first requests they got, and it
Speaker 1: was a little bit like are we jumping into the Yes,
Speaker 1: they're in. They're doing it full time and it's great.
Speaker 1: One of the first requests was could you please keep
Speaker 1: constantly saying and pretending that you're a fourteen year old girl?
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, dude, yeah that look, I'm totally
Speaker 1: fine if you want to be like, whoa isn't this
Speaker 1: the hottest on her birthday eighteen year old girl? When
Speaker 1: you start getting into like I like age play in
Speaker 1: terms of working up, I don't like the idea age
Speaker 1: play working down.
Speaker 2: And you know, like so much could be said on
Speaker 2: age play, and I don't want to keep shame. My
Speaker 2: only thing is that people need to realize that we
Speaker 2: can get kicked off of sites, you know, and they're very,
Speaker 2: very stripped. Now you can't There's all sorts of stuff
Speaker 2: we cannot do that you cannot talk about that gets
Speaker 2: us kicked off. It's not even about shamy, it's just
Speaker 2: we literally cannot do it if we want to keep.
Speaker 3: Our only fan makes sense, makes sense?
Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take one more break, We're gonna
Speaker 1: come back, We're gonna play one more game, and we
Speaker 1: are gonna wrap up with the lovely Aphelia khn Aphelia
Speaker 1: con ten on Twitter and links to everything in the
Speaker 1: episode description.
Speaker 3: We'll be all right back, all right.
Speaker 1: And we're back my guest today, Aphelia khn Aphelia Cohn
Speaker 1: ten On. Only fans, make sure you follow across all
Speaker 1: social media links to everything in the episode description. And
Speaker 1: she just told us there she has a many VIDs account,
Speaker 1: so seek her out on many VIDs. I am a
Speaker 1: huge fan of many VIDs. Nice easy, simple boom. You
Speaker 1: produce a thing, goes up there, upload it, download, smash
Speaker 1: your dick, whatever you're gonna do. Uh. Can I play
Speaker 1: another game with you today, Aphelia? Uh?
Speaker 3: Real quick, Aphelia? What's it come from? The name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's what I would have named a daughter
Speaker 2: had A had her. Although I also really like Sophia
Speaker 2: and anything with A in the name, So I was
Speaker 2: Olivia I really like. So when I came up with Ophelia,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh wait, maybe I should have done
Speaker 2: like one of the others. But anyway, yeah, it was
Speaker 2: because I never had a kid and I really wanted
Speaker 2: to have that name in my life.
Speaker 1: You have an Olivia moon. Look to your eyes and
Speaker 1: your mouth. Has anyone ever told you that. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: she's very pretty and you are equally as pretty as her. Okay,
Speaker 1: I will just say that we're gonna start this game
Speaker 1: Lady's Choice with a Failia kN all Right, Lady's Choices
Speaker 1: game where you you Aphelia con the world famous porn
Speaker 1: star good to build your own celebrity fantasy gang bang. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the catch. You don't actually get to pick the individuals. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spin these wheels to determine the participants in
Speaker 1: your fantasy celebrity gang bang. That is much too long
Speaker 1: of a term. I need to call it like a
Speaker 1: celeb bang or something like that. There's an athlete wheel,
Speaker 1: there's an artist wheel, and the third.
Speaker 3: Wheel is just a guy.
Speaker 1: Uh. Your job while building this gang bang is to
Speaker 1: tell me who goes where and then give me your
Speaker 1: logic behind it, Like why would I pick this person?
Speaker 1: Did you pick this guy because for your mouth? Because
Speaker 1: he has like killer aps, like I'd like to look
Speaker 1: at those apps, or like I'm picking this guy from
Speaker 1: my ass because he looks like a fucking loser with
Speaker 1: a small dick. You know whatever? Are you comfortable playing
Speaker 1: Lady's Choice with me today? With lady, that's the game
Speaker 1: we're playing.
Speaker 2: Oh, I get it, I get it. Okay, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: We're okay.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Let me spin the wheels and we'll determine who your
Speaker 1: participants are in Lady's Choice.
Speaker 5: Let's play Lady's Choice. John Cena Andris Elba, Robert Hanson.
Speaker 1: Okay, Ophelia, you have been given the following people for
Speaker 1: your ladies. I'm just gonna call it the Ladies Choice
Speaker 1: gang Bang. That makes more sense, right, like it's the title. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 3: This is all a working living document, just so you know,
Speaker 3: and we will.
Speaker 2: Always because I'm so bad with people's naves.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's all right. So I do have pictures
Speaker 1: for you. First up, John Cena, thirteen times WWE World
Speaker 1: Heavyweight Champion, very famous actor nowadays as well, but good shape,
Speaker 1: good looking guy. H Number two Idris Elba, you'll know
Speaker 1: him from the wire. Let me duck so you can see.
Speaker 1: And Idris Elba was voted the sexiest man alive in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Number three, your guy wheel, unfortunately, is a
Speaker 1: man named Robert Hanson.
Speaker 3: Now, Robert Hanson was a baker.
Speaker 1: Who's had some cons to him, like he was known
Speaker 1: as the Butcher Baker, having murdered seventeen people in the
Speaker 1: Alaskan Wilderness by setting them free and hunting them down. So, Ophelia,
Speaker 1: if you would please, would you design your lady's choice
Speaker 1: gang bang with the three participants John Cena, Idris Elba,
Speaker 1: and Robert Hanson.
Speaker 2: Oh guy, all right, so ones for my mouth, once
Speaker 2: from my pussy, ones from ass.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go air tight on this one. Uh, just
Speaker 1: for the sake of the game.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So I am gonna go uh shoot, you.
Speaker 1: Can say first guy, second guy, third guy, and I'll
Speaker 1: let you know who's who if you're bad with me.
Speaker 2: Uh. This is just such a tough one because it
Speaker 2: probably doesn't matter when there's so much going on.
Speaker 1: Kay, I would say only this. It's a game of
Speaker 1: how you would prioritize or add value to which of
Speaker 1: your orifices.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want the murderer in my mouth, because
Speaker 2: he might like the You might like to, you know,
Speaker 2: go at it so hard that I lose conscious like
Speaker 2: I can't breathe like really put my joke or really
Speaker 2: keep it in. He might he might like the choking death.
Speaker 2: So he he is not going to the mouth, he
Speaker 2: can go and hopefully all his murder streakness is from
Speaker 2: a small dick syndrome, so he can go in my ass.
Speaker 1: Literally the logic that has been applied to this game
Speaker 1: other times in the past, that is brilliant. It's brilliant.
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. It's a brilliant strategy. Has
Speaker 1: to stem from little dick loser syndrome. Maybe, is what
Speaker 1: I always thought. I've had all of my life. Number two,
Speaker 1: so we're going ass there.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, uh so then the other two. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it makes a huge difference. We're gonna do
Speaker 2: uh oh, now we're okay, We're gonna do number two
Speaker 2: in my pussy.
Speaker 3: Hey, Idris elba is in the vagina.
Speaker 2: Yes, and number three in my mouth?
Speaker 1: Okay? Any logic on those two? Are you just you
Speaker 1: just okay? Switching them off?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this is because supposedly black men are supposed.
Speaker 1: To have the larger cocks, right, That's what I've heard
Speaker 1: and seen in locker rooms.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I don't, and you know it's not always true,
Speaker 2: but I have found But but I think of my
Speaker 2: theory as it doesn't matter even if it is small.
Speaker 2: It's large.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, we're gonna go What that is bigger, so
Speaker 4: he can he can go in my cutsy because I'll
Speaker 4: feel really great, and then the other guy can go
Speaker 4: in my mouth because hopefully it's like the perfect size
Speaker 4: for a good throat fuck, because if it's.
Speaker 2: Too thick, then it can't get far enough down to
Speaker 2: make me like salivate.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: That's good logic too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you need not thin, but thinner than the
Speaker 1: biggest you've ever had for your mouth.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, it doesn't it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't want super thick like no, no,
Speaker 2: you know, like, but I get a lot of important
Speaker 2: I get a lot of unrealistic sizes. So but yeah,
Speaker 2: something that's like a normal but hopefully a little bit long.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I have to ask that since you're going
Speaker 1: back and forth and bouncing on, bouncing on this unintended uh,
Speaker 1: are you a size queen?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh warm, that's made me kind of a side squen. Okay,
Speaker 2: here's what it is.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 2: Visually, there's nothing. It's really nice to visually look at
Speaker 2: a big cock, but uh, in terms of feeling, there
Speaker 2: is like.
Speaker 1: A too big Okay, all right, do you know what
Speaker 1: too big is for you?
Speaker 3: No, let me let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Are there male performers and you're not calling them out
Speaker 1: in a negative way? Actually, are there male performers you've
Speaker 1: yet to work with that you're somewhat terrified to work with?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Of course, okay, size.
Speaker 1: Wise, I mean, I don't mean like they're gonna throw
Speaker 1: you off a balucamy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is all how you like work your cock.
Speaker 2: There are some very nice, gentle gentlemen who have a
Speaker 2: huge cocks that I was scared of. But don't they
Speaker 2: just can't fuck you the same way, you know, just
Speaker 2: they can't just jam it in there. Okay, they can't smaller?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you really never feel like the ball's
Speaker 1: bouncing on you if you got like a guy who's
Speaker 1: twelve inches and can only go in X amount. Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: I've never had that problem in my life, never once.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what that problem is. So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not delvin where you think I'm going.
Speaker 1: But have you have you have you had to apply
Speaker 1: your new poor knowledge to any kind of personal relationships?
Speaker 1: Like have you had to since you started in the industry?
Speaker 1: Have you maybe dated a guy or gone a date
Speaker 1: or done whatever and maybe closed the deal and then
Speaker 1: at the end you were just kind of like, eh,
Speaker 1: like I'm with the professional guys.
Speaker 3: Does it hurt personal relationships at all or personal things?
Speaker 2: Like they have just now started dating again, so I
Speaker 2: don't know one date since it or like like a couple,
Speaker 2: but like, uh I did recently go on one date
Speaker 2: with somebody who was not in this industry. Sure I
Speaker 2: ghosted him. Oh really well, but yeah, uh yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: I'm just ready for dating. But uh so, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I do because I feel like
Speaker 2: connection is more. There's more about connection than what It's
Speaker 2: always been a struggle for me because I have fallen
Speaker 2: in love with some guys that were very small, and
Speaker 2: I stayed in the relationship because you know, like well,
Speaker 2: you know, like when you really love somebody, there's more
Speaker 2: to it than just the penis size.
Speaker 3: Sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but going forward, it sounds like you're going to
Speaker 1: turn the filter on for above average dick.
Speaker 3: Maybe depends on the person.
Speaker 2: It depends on the persons.
Speaker 1: Put it this way, if there were a filter that
Speaker 1: gave a certain number on size of dick, where would
Speaker 1: you click that filter to start the minimum.
Speaker 2: At I think seven inches.
Speaker 3: Well we're out, folks, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Uh, okay, all right, I think that's fair.
Speaker 3: What you have coming up for us?
Speaker 1: More mainstream shoots? Do you have anything being planned for
Speaker 1: your only fans or you got anything big plan for camming? Whatever?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna start doing woven baskets?
Speaker 1: Like? You know?
Speaker 3: What do you got coming up with?
Speaker 1: Alia?
Speaker 2: So I will have some more mainstream stuff, soll begining
Speaker 2: with that. I will. I swear I've got a gang
Speaker 2: bang that I need to get edited and put on
Speaker 2: my only fans like those. Okay, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm allowed to talk about it on here, but I
Speaker 2: do work. I started working at a broncle on top
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're You're allowed to talk about whatever you want
Speaker 1: to talk about.
Speaker 3: It was that a big jump for you?
Speaker 2: Uh? It was a weird at first? In my head,
Speaker 2: it was I really liked it though.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Do you find yourself, like we talked about before,
Speaker 1: building connections with people or is it how you can
Speaker 1: build a connection with a like do you do you
Speaker 1: yet or do you hope to have regulars?
Speaker 3: Or is it well to.
Speaker 2: Have regulars and a little bit of a connection. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was really nice. I knew at it, so I
Speaker 2: had my first I come back for a second time
Speaker 2: and it was really nice.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's fun and so uh so that's the other
Speaker 2: side of me, Like I I can't say that I
Speaker 2: really have a huge cock fetish because I think well
Speaker 2: of any size.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 3: Sure, so to me, it really found.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you got into it later in life, right,
Speaker 1: you like producing scenes, You've just started working at this
Speaker 1: other place. It doesn't sound like it. I always used
Speaker 1: to ask people on the previous version of this show,
Speaker 1: money fame, sex, rank those for me in this industry?
Speaker 3: But to me, it really does. It sounds like sex
Speaker 3: is high up there for you.
Speaker 1: Like you obviously all three are great, right, but if
Speaker 1: you were to rank those three, could you give me
Speaker 1: your three in order and most important? Money, fame, sex
Speaker 1: most important things to you in the adult entertainment industry.
Speaker 2: In that so, it has switched a little bit. It
Speaker 2: was sex, money fame, Now it's probably money sex fame.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a job. You got to do it, you know.
Speaker 3: Are you comfortable with the money you're currently making.
Speaker 2: I mean it changes every month. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just have to remember trust the universe. I will not
Speaker 2: be homeless.
Speaker 1: There you go. I think that's a great thing to
Speaker 1: wrap up on. Aphelia Khan links to everything in the
Speaker 1: episode description. I really want to push you because she's
Speaker 1: very comfortable in her living, but we want to make
Speaker 1: her more comfortable. Aphelia Cohn ten on only fans go
Speaker 1: sign up. There is a gang bang down the pipe, folks. Okay,
Speaker 1: she's just got to get it cut up and then
Speaker 1: we'll be good to go. We're gonna wrap this one
Speaker 1: my guest tonight, The Stunning Aphelia. I almost did it.
Speaker 1: I almost called you, Olivia Mon The Stunning Ophelia Khan.
Speaker 1: Check the episodes episode description like I just explained Bubbo Aphelia,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.