WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:15.960 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It 2 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:19.399 is episode eighty nine. I think I'm your host as always, 3 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:24.559 Michael Maharty here once again with Mary kesh Hi and 4 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:28.839 returning to us after a long absence many travels around 5 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:31.760 the world. It was one episode. He's back at Stan Reichert. 6 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.560 All the stars are here. We've all assembled again. Do 7 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:38.159 we only miss one where we all together two episodes ago? 8 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:38.880 Uh? 9 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:43.719 Cause we almost had to miss this one, but this 10 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:47.560 out I can't remember. 11 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:53.640 They're a minute. I've been I've been active. I feel 12 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:56.960 like I've been present. I missed one episode, like in 13 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.000 early summer because I was at Twitch Con in Europe. 14 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.200 But I'm pretty good and I'm glad I was. We 15 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.959 almost missed this week because I have so much family 16 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:09.079 in town, but y'all moved your schedules around for me, 17 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:11.040 which I. 18 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:14.439 We're doing the same was coming weekend. This is the 19 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.120 first time I'll be coming to Portland, not by myself 20 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:18.519 in the middle of the night to stare through your 21 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:20.359 window with a knife. It's gonna be really fun. 22 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.599 I'm really excited you guys are both coming. It's a 23 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:30.640 really cool time to be in Portland and coming is 24 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:35.920 he We are gonna have Jake so to avoid him. Yeah. 25 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:37.760 God, we were just talking about how much we don't 26 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:43.560 like him air. Yeah, we're trying to Decker. 27 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:48.319 Yeah, Jake dot Org an organization for us to talk 28 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:50.840 about the sweetest boy in the whole world that we 29 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:55.159 don't like, Jake Decker. I've never done anything wrong in 30 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:55.640 his life. 31 00:01:57.840 --> 00:01:58.359 He killed that. 32 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.040 We don't talk. 33 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.640 About Jake cut that cut, that cut that proud boys. 34 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.120 But he's a nice guy. 35 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.960 Yeah, he's a he's a big conspiracy guy as well. 36 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.719 Oh but like the like dangerous ones ye yeah, yeah, 37 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:19.680 not like the Cooper cut, the moon Land and stuff. 38 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.039 It's like he's like dangerous conspiracy theorist. 39 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:24.439 Yeah. Yeah, So that's Jake. If you want to learn 40 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:26.000 more about him, gonna fuck Jake dot Org. 41 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:27.879 We haven't bought it yet. 42 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:30.159 We need to buy Jake dot. 43 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:32.039 Org goes up. We need to get Fuckjake dot Org 44 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:35.840 and put a photoshop photo of him with a rocket 45 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:42.439 launcher pointed at a hospital a jo. Yeah. Yeah, we'll 46 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:43.879 be in Parland for a couple of nights. Gonna be 47 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:44.960 fun my first time. 48 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:48.159 Really, it's lovely. 49 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:50.000 You're gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna take you to some 50 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:52.080 iconic places and we can talk about them on the 51 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:55.280 next EPI. But I'm gonna take you, uh in theory, 52 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:59.360 provided like everybody's everything, everybody's on time, and everything goes well, 53 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:01.759 You're going to see some vistas and I'm going to 54 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:03.159 take you to some waterfalls too. 55 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:07.240 Oh really, that's awesome, hell y, And we don't even 56 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:07.960 I love this. 57 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.039 We can just show up and then you just take 58 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:12.719 us wherever and we don't have to worry about planning anything. 59 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:14.680 That's I took care of it. I took care of 60 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:17.479 the boys because I feel like if you're getting your 61 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:21.280 butts here, especially you Dan, after all this travel internationally. 62 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.919 You just got back from packs, you are tired, So 63 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.560 you get here with vistas, I got you. Yeah, vistas 64 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:31.639 and drinkies open bar. 65 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:35.919 Oh yes, yes, perfect. This is like kind of the 66 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.439 end of like my travel gauntlet. So honestly, the timing 67 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:41.080 is perfect because it's been every weekend the summer since 68 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:43.360 my surgery and this is the last one of the 69 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:45.680 consecutive weekends to just go hang out with you, have 70 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:47.719 some drinks and look at vistas. 71 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:50.439 Yay, come hang out with me and vistas. 72 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:50.800 Yeah. 73 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:51.719 You have jakes there. 74 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:57.080 Yeah, you takes there. I'm just tell him Dan that 75 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:59.719 it's the beginning of my travel gauntlets. So we're looking 76 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.960 forward to like being outdoors and relaxing and hanging out 77 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:03.400 with friends. 78 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:08.120 You got it's going to be a crisp ninety degrees. 79 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.240 Yeah, so fuck. 80 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:13.199 I don't understand it. It's really weird, like a weird 81 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:17.240 hot hot pocket situation. The heat, Like I believe they're 82 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:19.360 called heat domes, but I like calling them hot pockets 83 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:20.360 hot pockets for fun. 84 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:24.319 Left the hot pocket leapt straight from New York to Portland, 85 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.839 and I'm following it. I can't wait. 86 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.279 I love the heat. But yeah, for Australians, it's not 87 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:33.920 bad at all. There's a bunch of Australians in town 88 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:38.680 and it's usually like one hundred and ten degrees in Australia. Australia, 89 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:42.800 their summers are brutal, Like is it like Vegas dry 90 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:44.439 heat or is it humid in one hundred and ten 91 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:45.480 It can be humid too. 92 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:47.920 That that sounds terrible. 93 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.000 Australia gets like every kind of weather. They're the size 94 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:54.000 the United States is. Oh, it's farther south, so it's 95 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:54.759 not just. 96 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:55.680 Drop out of the sky. 97 00:04:55.920 --> 00:05:03.639 Its just Meltingeez travels in first time in Germany? Correct, yes, yes, 98 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.399 did you stick in Cologne? Did you get anywhere else? 99 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:10.720 I flew into Dusseldorf and then went to Colone But yes, Spence, 100 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:13.240 yeah I think so, yeah, and spent like that was 101 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:15.680 the fastest uber right I've ever had from the airport. 102 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.519 I think it was technically the Autobahn and that guy 103 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.959 he was I tried to look at the knob thing 104 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.639 on the dash, but it was in crazy kilometers. Yeah yeah, 105 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:25.079 but it was in like kilometers, so I didn't know 106 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.000 what the fuck it meant. But it felt very fast. 107 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:31.120 But yeah, we just stuck in Cologne and drank a 108 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:32.959 lot of kolshes ate a lot of meat. 109 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.000 Did take about the saga of dj ass Tits No. 110 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.560 I saw a picture of dj ass Tits of game. 111 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:42.199 Yeah, yeah, okay. I think the video should be up 112 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:43.759 on Giant Bomb by the time this goes up. But 113 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.839 there's a whole saga with dj ass hits and give 114 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:48.439 us the tldry because. 115 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:49.519 I'm not going to watch it. I just want to 116 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:50.240 know what happened. 117 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:54.360 Basically, we saw a sign that said dj as watching 118 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:57.600 all that. I found her on Instagram a message her 119 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.199 being like, Hey, we're at a video game website. We 120 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.600 love your name. We're in Cologne. Do you want to 121 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.000 do a cameo in a video we're shooting about being 122 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:07.800 in games Com And she said yes. So we met 123 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.360 up with dj ass Tits. She was an absolute delight 124 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:11.920 and she did a little cameo for the end of 125 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:13.000 our Giant Bomb video. 126 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:14.959 It was nice, lady. 127 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.439 Yes, yes, so big dj ass Tits fans over here. Now. 128 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.839 I like that Giant Bomb is building up its own 129 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.199 like Channel five roster of characters. Oh yeah, that you 130 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:26.199 just find in the world. 131 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:28.319 I love that. I love it. It's like, you know, 132 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:31.480 Letterman once found the guys at the bodega next door. 133 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:33.519 He MOODI burns Syergil and had them be his like 134 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.199 Olympics correspondence. Like I've always loved that. Like, let's just 135 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:38.480 find a random person, like bring them into the fold, 136 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:40.560 and you know, as long as they're interesting, nice people. 137 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.920 And dj assd Tits is interesting and nice. So yes, 138 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:45.439 friend of Giant Bomb for sure. 139 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:48.600 Yes, a friend of Giant Bomb dj asss. It reminds 140 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:52.160 me this was ages ago, but I remember vividly me 141 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:54.639 and Rob handleary at an E three there was a 142 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.480 DJ with just really big boobies DJing with their little 143 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.199 MacBook and we were being a little bastards and we 144 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:03.920 were like, I wonder what her name is. We were like, 145 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:06.600 we bet it's DJ fun Bags. And then we came 146 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.839 up with a persona for DJ fun Bags and she 147 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.839 would always just be like, hi, everyone, put your hands 148 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.920 in the r and grab your decks. DJ fun Bags 149 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:18.600 is gotting. It started I'm about a hat's bass bar 150 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.240 and we would just say we would just like kind 151 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:24.480 of little bastards about it. But anyway, she took it 152 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.120 in good fun. She didn't know about it. We were just. 153 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.040 You probably have not heard the Mike Manatti English story, 154 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:34.160 have you. I'll give you the TLDR on this as 155 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:36.199 well for anyone who may have heard this. But on 156 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:39.920 the first night that went, I was flying in but 157 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.439 Jane Bailey and Cologne. So Jan and Bailey had gone 158 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.680 out to get food with Manati and they're asking about recommendations. 159 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:49.439 The guys like, oh, you got to go to this bar. 160 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:51.040 This is the best bar. So they go to this 161 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.560 bar afterwards and it's very busy. They're doing trivia and 162 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.639 German as they walk in, and the lady behind the 163 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.600 bar is like trying to wave them over, like, hey, 164 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.319 you're drinks over here, not over there. But Manati for 165 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:06.839 some reason, thought she was asking if they spoke English 166 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:11.079 or German or Dutch, and so she's going, hey, stand 167 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.879 over here, stand over here in German, and Manati just 168 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:18.439 goes English in the middle. Everyone all the bar backs. 169 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.480 Everyone turned immediately and like their eyebrows went up. Jan 170 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:23.920 and Bailey just one eightied and walked out of the bar, 171 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.120 barked English at this woman speaking of German. 172 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.879 Yeah, and from my experience in Cologne during games come 173 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:36.159 Cologne very nice people. However, bear in mind that like 174 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:39.759 once a year, gamers from all over Europe and the 175 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.720 world descend, so they can understandably be a bit touchy 176 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.759 when like you're just in posing your americanness on them 177 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:47.919 or English whatever. 178 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:50.080 An accident, So that makes it even funnier. 179 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.559 Also, I like, I could just hear it in Mike 180 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:56.200 Manatti's voice and I would be. 181 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:56.519 Like what. 182 00:08:58.159 --> 00:08:59.840 And he thought they were gonna stay in order beers, 183 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:01.919 but Janna Bailey would not be seen in that bar 184 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:02.519 after that. 185 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:05.799 I would be out of there so fast. That's so embarrassing. 186 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:10.840 I would have uh yeah, I would have anxiety passively Manati. 187 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.679 That happens a lot when you're around Manati. But it's 188 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.480 all in good fun. He's a nice boy. 189 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:17.279 Did what happened? 190 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:19.799 No, he just turned around. You didn't see. Janna Bailey's like, oh, 191 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:20.879 I guess we're not getting beers here. 192 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:27.360 Like a man walked in during trivia shouted English, yeah, and. 193 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:36.720 Some got pissed him and then they all left. Yeah. 194 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:40.039 Yeah, oh that was so sad. But I was embarrassed. 195 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.799 I knew what I had done. Did Manatt even know? 196 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:47.360 No, he's he's very unaware of a lot of the 197 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:49.679 stuff he does again in a very very nice way. 198 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:52.679 But but yeah, I've heard I can be like that too. 199 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:55.159 I feel like seeing Manati in a lot of circumstances, 200 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:59.159 I am understanding more what people have experienced being out 201 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:01.039 with me and things like that of me just being 202 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.960 oblivious two things. Yeah, yeah, but no, he's he's a 203 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:06.399 great guy. 204 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.960 Yeah, you and Manati out by yourselves, that's like you 205 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:12.840 need a straight man there for that. 206 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.399 Yeah, jan and Bailey were the adults for sure, with 207 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:19.480 me a Minati, but the actual show flower and everything. Yes, 208 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:22.519 the show floor was just like, you know, I've done 209 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:25.240 a million eight threes, but this was very different. I 210 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.000 don't know what I expected. I always heard about how 211 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:29.240 it was packed and everything, but like there were like 212 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.000 eleven plus halls and a lot of them are like, 213 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:34.279 you know, four point one is the lower floor and 214 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:36.679 four point two is the upper floor, and it's just 215 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.360 the sea of humanity on the public days where it's 216 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.960 just fucking impossible to get around, like it was. It 217 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.679 was a lot of fun, but it was staggeringly big. 218 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.399 I was. I was not expecting how how big this 219 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:48.159 convention was. 220 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:53.200 What's the most surprising thing about like everyday German life 221 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.039 that you noticed? 222 00:10:57.399 --> 00:10:59.480 You know, it was fairly easy to like, you know, 223 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:02.519 everyone kind of spoke English, so there weren't Oh, the 224 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.360 fucking public transportation was the easiest thing in the world. 225 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.240 It just takes you everywhere. 226 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.799 It was confusingly, it seemed free, like we were trying 227 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.159 to pay and didn't even see places to pay. Somebody 228 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:17.360 told me it was free, but then it was very confusing. 229 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.000 They gave us tickets from games Colm to like, I 230 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:21.159 don't understand it works, but. 231 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:24.000 It seems to be a good system. Games comp ticket 232 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.240 like comps a certain number of rides. Okay, very served 233 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:30.840 at least when I went, Oh. 234 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:32.320 Here's the thing that surprised me the most. So I 235 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:33.919 was looking forward to having a bunch of pretzels and 236 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:37.240 cheese there because that seemed like a thing in England 237 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:40.960 or Germany. And they have cheese pretzels, but they're all 238 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:44.039 this weird style where they're hanging on hooks and it's 239 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.159 like it's like they melted a bunch of cheese over 240 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.679 it and just let it dry and then they stick 241 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.720 it up. I wanted the biggest pretzel with the biggest 242 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.639 thing a beer cheese dip or something. It was still good, 243 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:56.519 but it was like we're just having like flat cold 244 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:58.240 cheese all over the pretzel, you know. 245 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.720 Huh. I wonder if that's a uh just a like 246 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:03.639 German wide thing or a cologne thing. 247 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.519 You might have been in like a more of a 248 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.960 like an authentic orza because I did a pizza from 249 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.559 a sorry pizza. I did a pretzel from a vendor 250 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.159 and it came with dunker. 251 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:18.240 Oh dunker cheese. 252 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.919 Yeah, so I think you just you got it in 253 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:21.759 a different way. 254 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.440 But four places that had the cheese thing, yeah, flat one. 255 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:27.879 Yeah, it was imagining dan as actually just at a 256 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:32.480 dry cleaner's eat pulling eating suits off the rack as. 257 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:35.639 That might have been my problem. Yeah, and he's. 258 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:39.240 Running up to people going I need dunkers. Yeah, don't 259 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:41.879 you have any dunkers. There was a couple of things 260 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:44.799 that surprised me about did you see anybody wearing they 261 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:46.759 had Like there's like a thing where people wear like 262 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:49.799 a giant cookie in a heart on their neck. No, 263 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:51.320 and you're not supposed to eat it. 264 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.879 It's like a decorative but it's like a real cookie. 265 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.320 Yeah, but I think it's meant to be decorative. 266 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.000 Don't like flies eat it and stuff. I don't know, huh. 267 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:04.720 We had very different German experiences because I got dunkers 268 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.399 and I saw people wearing cookies and you had a 269 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.480 dry pretzel and no dunkers. 270 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:10.639 It was good. 271 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:12.840 I'm not complaining, like you know, the meat and everything 272 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.120 was good overall. I think I like the food in 273 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:16.720 England more what. 274 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:20.279 Nobody ever fucking says that nobody's ever said that the 275 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.919 food in England is better than the food in Germany. 276 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:24.399 Out of your mind. 277 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:27.000 I pared the reputation with England, but like the stuff 278 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:28.679 I had. They're the best meal I had and all 279 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:30.360 these trips he eup I've had in the last few weeks. 280 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.000 Was me and Manati went to a little pub in 281 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.519 Brentford and had fish and chips and guinness. The most 282 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.440 stereotypical British shit ever, but it was easily the best 283 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:39.679 fish and chips I've ever had. 284 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.039 It was okay amazing, So yeah, fish and chips is 285 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.200 definitely really good at England, Did you have anything else? 286 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:47.720 I went to Nando's because I always heard about that 287 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:50.639 being like a good chain, like Perry Perry Chicken thing, 288 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:52.879 and it was very good I had. You know, I'm 289 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:54.559 not a huge coffee guy. I just kind of have 290 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:58.200 like an espresso little pods in the morning. But this 291 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.679 was like the first time I've had coffee at something 292 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:03.519 Queen's Mayfair and England where it's like holy shit, Like 293 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:05.639 like the taste of the coffee was like, oh, this 294 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:08.000 is not a utilitarian I'm waking up in the morning thing. 295 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.480 This is like this tastes amazing. 296 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:14.720 So in America we have like known for a coffee 297 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:15.600 obsession in America. 298 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:19.039 Yeah, but I don't really know where to like I 299 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.039 go to Cariboo if I'm going out, I don't know 300 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:21.960 if that's nation that's. 301 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.000 A big fairly I know, but it's. 302 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:27.799 It's all good like Caribou, Starbucks all that, so you 303 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.360 can get good stuff, but like this is this is 304 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:31.720 strikingly good yet Caribou. 305 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.519 You're just naming the American chains. But we also have, 306 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:38.720 like we have boutique coffee spots. I guarantee you Minneapolis 307 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:40.639 has many of them, like around every corner. 308 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.320 We probably do. I guess I've never looked for a 309 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:43.960 coffee place. 310 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:47.000 But that's good that you like English food, because I 311 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:51.879 will say England like has great restaurants, but most of 312 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.360 the ones I've been to are not like English style food. 313 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.679 It's like I don't know any number of different restaurant 314 00:14:57.679 --> 00:14:58.720 styles that are they're doing. 315 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.600 There the best ice cream've ever what kind of what was? 316 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:02.480 What was good about it? 317 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:04.240 Just it was it was a bit bisc off and 318 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:06.360 honeycomb was one of the flavors. So every night I 319 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:08.200 went there and I got a biscoff and honeycomb scoop 320 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:12.120 and one other scoop that was incredible. Also Europe in general, 321 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:16.279 I found this in Germany, England and Iceland. Fucking Maum. 322 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.120 Do you know Maum m ao a m No. It's 323 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:21.960 this candy that comes in all sorts of different forms. 324 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:24.200 There's like fun sticks, there's like little like uh the 325 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.600 little pads. There's a pinballs that come in pinball form, 326 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.919 and they all it's like Starbars is my favorite candy ever. 327 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:33.639 And this is like if Starbars had a bunch more 328 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.879 flavors and came in different fund shapes and they were better. 329 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:42.120 We brought these back from France. The wild red berries, 330 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.000 the chewy. We have some of these in our jar 331 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.799 right now because we're saving them. They're like they look 332 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:51.519 like gum drops, but they're those might oh okay ym 333 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:53.840 red fruit berries and they're covered in like a like 334 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:55.240 sugary kind of substance. 335 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:55.559 Yeah. 336 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:56.759 Oh they're awesome. I agree. 337 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:59.200 Yes, all of the other the joysticks, the stripes, the 338 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:02.120 party mix, the mix. Uh, this is the this is 339 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:04.159 like my favorite candy period now. So like I just 340 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:06.120 load up my bag with Maum when I'm coming home 341 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:06.840 from Europe now. 342 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:09.440 But yeah, god, it's not like one candy. That's the 343 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:11.559 company that owns a bunch of different candies. 344 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:13.440 Yeah, but all their shit is awesome and it's all 345 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.720 that kind of like fruity Starburst style. Can I get 346 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:16.480 this on Amazon? 347 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:16.799 Oh? 348 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:18.240 Yeah, anyone? 349 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:20.840 And doesn't Harrobo own it? Yeah? 350 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:25.080 Maybe? Okay, Europe people listening to this, it's just send 351 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.840 me a ship ton of maum. 352 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.759 Maw wait wait I like saying it, like, yeah so. 353 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:32.639 Maum is a brand of sweets produced by the German 354 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.080 confectionery company Harribo. 355 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:37.200 Oh okay, Well that's the thing is, I don't love 356 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:39.559 Harrobo because it's all like gummy stuff and I'm not 357 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:41.519 a big gummy bear guy. I don't like the textra 358 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:42.919 gummy beers. I like that Starburst. 359 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:45.919 I think like the gummy Bears have become synonymous with Haribo, 360 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:48.919 at least in America. Yeah. Yeah, it's a big company. 361 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:49.799 It's like, don't. 362 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.480 Dislike gummy bears, but it's like I don't ever seek 363 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:55.279 them out, whereas like Maum and Starburst, I seek out 364 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.440 and I've just been going ape shit on those since 365 00:16:57.440 --> 00:16:57.919 I got back. 366 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.200 Yeah, the RedBerry things are awesome and we had a 367 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:03.720 lot of You have ever had these? 368 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:06.240 You gotta get some molm You're always in Europe. 369 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:07.920 I got to have my mouth. 370 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.559 Get yourself. It's got a mouth sponsorship. 371 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:14.839 Dan's gonna wake up in the middle of the night tonight. 372 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:19.680 You're just walking to a German bar one day and 373 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:24.640 shout mouth and then leave without ordering anything. Man. 374 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:27.799 I got a bunch of like artisanal, awesome cheese in Germany, 375 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.319 brought it home. It was fucking great. Like I loved 376 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:32.920 some good ass cheese and bought a big block of it. 377 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:33.720 Travels fine. 378 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:35.599 Yeah, Europe's cool. 379 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:37.119 I like it. I'm into it. 380 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.160 Well, how is this cheese wrapped? Like? Was it like 381 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:41.440 plat wheel? 382 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:43.680 It was like a wedge and then it was like 383 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:44.640 vacuum field. 384 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:44.920 Yeah. 385 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:46.119 Yeah, I had like a label on it. 386 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.160 Okay, that makes sense. I still like the I just 387 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:50.880 like the idea of you traveling with cheese. 388 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:53.519 Well, I bought some in England, but they just wrapped 389 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:55.519 it up in paper that wasn't airtight, and so I 390 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:57.720 didn't think it would travel without stinking up all my clothes. 391 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.279 So I just ate like a block of cheese in 392 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:00.960 my hotel room at like two in the morning when 393 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:01.519 I couldn't sleep. 394 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.119 Cheese too much cheese before a big flight. 395 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:09.920 About my body's used to cheese. It's it's like a block. 396 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:11.400 Before I got on that flight, when I. 397 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:14.359 Was about the people near you, not you, Oh, farting 398 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:15.599 style anything. 399 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.039 Oh, I didn't fart on the plane, that's when you 400 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:19.720 got fire. 401 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:23.880 Never would ever believe anyone who says that, ever, I 402 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:25.400 didn't fart on that plane. 403 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:28.960 I fart plenty, but I have some decorum in my 404 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:32.359 old age, and I will not fart on a plane. 405 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:35.920 I didn't. Maybe maybe if it's feeling a little dicey, 406 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.640 I might let one go in the bathroom. Oh, I 407 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:41.480 fart in the bathroom, that's fair game in theres in 408 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:43.799 the bathroom. Yeah, I'll fart up that bathroom, but I'm 409 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:45.519 not doing it. Sit in my seat. What if you're 410 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:48.599 in the window, in the window. 411 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:50.680 The window off the window seats. 412 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:53.319 In person all. I haven't had a window seat in 413 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:57.680 fifteen years. But I no, At no point in the 414 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:58.640 cabin would I fart. 415 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:01.759 Uh Wait, have I told you my fart on a 416 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.240 plane story? I must have. This is probably like episode 417 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:08.400 twelve material. I did the thing, you know, when I 418 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:10.640 didn't have a pillow or anything, and I had fallen asleep, 419 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.519 and you know how when your head falls, your bodies 420 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:17.880 like goes into shock, where I like jolted awake and 421 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.799 it wasn't just that, like my whole upper body kind 422 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.720 of went upright, like I it scared me so much 423 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.319 that like my legs came off the floor. So I 424 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:33.279 farted not And it was a red eye, so pitch black, 425 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.440 which makes it relatively better. I would say, like see 426 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.960 to fart, but I'm trying to just figure out how 427 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:46.759 to describe the It wasn't loud, but it was crystal. 428 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.039 Clear of a fart cut through the air. 429 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:53.640 Yeah, So of course I start like looking around subtly 430 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:57.559 to see who noticed. And there's a lot of people 431 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:01.359 were asleep, but there was someone watching con air across 432 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.839 across the aisle and like on the in the middle 433 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.920 seat who was like leaning past the person the aisle 434 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.079 to look at me. And they weren't smiling. They didn't. 435 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:13.640 It wasn't a knowing look. I don't. I truly have 436 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:17.440 never seen a more neutral face. And then I went 437 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.680 back to I forgot what I was watching. But yeah, 438 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.079 that's I need a pillow so I don't fart again. 439 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:25.079 Because it was also like twenty fifteen or something. 440 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:26.359 Nice. 441 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:31.720 Well, that's cool, glad your European travels were fruitful. 442 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:34.880 Yes, they're quite good. I might be going to be 443 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:36.759 going to another continent here in the near future, but 444 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:43.319 working that Nice Yeah this month, so we'll see. 445 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:48.400 Yeah where We'll be be Portland this weekend and then 446 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:52.279 I think I'm doing a quick la leg late September, 447 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:57.640 and then Hawaii for the first time, also around Australians. 448 00:20:57.880 --> 00:20:58.200 Nice. 449 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:02.519 We're gonna go to Kawhi for a destination wedding for 450 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:05.920 a couple of our good friends and he's Australian and Hawaii. 451 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:09.000 He's exactly halfway between New York and Sydney where most 452 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:12.400 of them are from. Nice and that's also our anniversary week, 453 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:14.160 so we're going a few days early because we're at 454 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.440 a super nice resort. We're gonna do some hiking. Kawhai 455 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:22.240 is supposedly like the more rustic island, like, not as 456 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:25.000 active as other ones, not as to receive from what 457 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:26.559 we've heard, but there's a lot of good hiking. I 458 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.599 think the uh. I got to look up the name 459 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.160 of the famous trail that I'm forgetting but looking forward 460 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:35.400 to that Oregon, yes, and then the week after that 461 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:38.799 we're down to DC. And then that's not counting two 462 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:44.160 europe two European trips and a Canadian trip for me 463 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:45.759 for work boy. 464 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:47.599 It's a good thing we decided on this podcast being 465 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:49.799 every other week. That would have been pretty fucking hard. 466 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:52.839 Yeah, I think it would be almost impossible with our schedules. 467 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.640 I'll be in San Diego in two weeks for twitch 468 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:58.880 con so and then I think I just have a 469 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:03.279 couple like more more basic trips, maybe like to suf 470 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.000 or something like that, but you never know, like things 471 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:06.559 pop up. 472 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:09.799 Yeah, we should also probably give the disclaimer since we 473 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:11.559 did just mention that, like all the fire escape is 474 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.319 going to be in Portland, if you were worried about 475 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:16.279 hearing like about a meetup or in person stuff. Just 476 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:18.319 want to make sure we're setting expectations. It's not a 477 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.200 content fire escape thing we're doing. It's a it's for 478 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:24.319 a personal thing, So I don't expect we love doing 479 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:29.759 it personal stuff in person stuff, but we personally we. 480 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:34.000 Really enjoy impersonal bars for meetups and then just nag 481 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:34.920 them the whole time. 482 00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:39.359 Yeah, from us, we will probably will definitely do a 483 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:41.759 selfie though. But my favorite was when we got together 484 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:46.640 last year for Mike's big wedding. MiG was like, let's 485 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:49.799 do the thing where we photoshop Marion and I was like, 486 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:51.480 but it's your wedding, and you were like, get over 487 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.240 there and we'll take a photo together. And I was like, no, 488 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:58.480 I like made shots in the photo because I was like, 489 00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:01.279 no matter how funny this gag is, I'll be pissed 490 00:23:01.319 --> 00:23:02.839 if I'm not in this photo. 491 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.440 Yeah, especially when everybody's like dressed up. 492 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:09.160 Next in person. Actual like fire escape thing would probably 493 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:11.880 be the game of the year. We're doing that here. 494 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.599 We haven't decided I'm up. 495 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:16.519 To host again, but we can talk about it. But 496 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:17.599 I'm up for whatever. 497 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:20.000 It's fun at your house, but about it. 498 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:21.839 I got some new places I could show you guys too. 499 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.519 So what do you mean it's the same fucking house. 500 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:31.000 In the city. You found some weird Yeah, I've got 501 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.759 like an upside down Castlevania castle that I added on. 502 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.240 The shadow world of his house. 503 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:40.079 Bathroom. 504 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.880 Yeah, pull on this statue head and the wall will rotating. 505 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:48.079 It's just a house of leaves happening inside his house. 506 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:51.160 And there's like a closet with a gimp in it. 507 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:51.599 Yeah. 508 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:53.400 That will be ready by the time you guys are. 509 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:58.119 He finished Janitor next to a huge tree. Yeah. So 510 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:01.480 it's busy, busy fall but looking forward to kicking it 511 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:07.599 off in Portland, Mary I saw Alien Romulus. We both 512 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.599 did so damn Yeah. When you were gone, Mary was 513 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:13.480 talking it up. 514 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.799 Oh really, really so did. 515 00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:17.960 I did talk this movie up. 516 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:22.839 That That also did spark me rewatching several alien movies 517 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.279 and replaying a few alien related games, which I'll talk 518 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.559 about down the episode. But I if I had to 519 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:35.359 place this movie in the franchise, including all the directors 520 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:39.559 like ranking Wise, and bear in mind, I'm a sicco 521 00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:44.440 who actually really liked Alien Covenant, so take this, I 522 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:49.720 would put Romulus at like a firm middle or right 523 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:55.319 above middle, considering, you know, like there's some stinkers there. 524 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.680 I liked it. I thought it was entertaining. I thought 525 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:05.039 it was once things started going, I was like, all right, now, 526 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:07.640 it's like it feels like there's some good movie making happening. 527 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:12.240 And I also started to like several of the characters 528 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:17.119 much more. I also felt like it spent way too 529 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.519 much time calling back to the first movie, which I 530 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:21.880 get chronologically it takes place right after the first movie 531 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:24.000 that's going to happen, But there are certain things that 532 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:27.920 weren't really like organic callbacks. They were like, hey, knowing 533 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:30.480 winks to the audience, and I was like, I didn't 534 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:31.359 know that. 535 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.359 Game overman when they were playing the video game. 536 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:33.880 That was. 537 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:35.680 Much. 538 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:40.480 There's the there the most famous line from the first 539 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:44.160 movie or is it alien? Sorry? Get away from her? 540 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.960 You bitch that? Yeah? Yeah, spot where it didn't really 541 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:47.680 make sense, but a. 542 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.519 Few of them are kind of forced. Like I want 543 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:51.000 to say, I did overall like it. I gave it 544 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:52.920 three out of five on the letterbox. I thought it 545 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.079 was good. That's a good three is a good score. 546 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.720 Three as I liked The Twisters got three and a half. 547 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:00.680 This got three. 548 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.319 This is way better than Twister Twister. 549 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:04.079 They're good. 550 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.000 They're both good. No, I'm pro Alien Romulus. 551 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:07.680 Uh too. 552 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.000 One thing that did actually bug me? How spoilery? 553 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:11.960 Can we get here? Bug me? 554 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:14.799 Not too? 555 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.880 Okay, then I'll just say this generally. I think you'll 556 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:20.960 know what I'm talking about. There was a recurring CGI 557 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:25.519 thing that felt unnecessary and weird in a movie where 558 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:29.359 everything looked really good. I left the vibe of it. Yeah, 559 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:31.279 there was, yeah, but then there was one thing that 560 00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:33.599 stood out like a sore thumb, and I thought it 561 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.279 was very avoidable. I think you didn't even necessarily need 562 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.039 to do that. I don't think the way they did 563 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.759 it added to any part of the story. It didn't 564 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.880 have to be this way. I'm trying not spoil anything, 565 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:47.079 but like you know what I'm talking about. It it's 566 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:50.240 an effect that is distracting and repeated throughout you. 567 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:52.000 I mean, you can say, like they have to call 568 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:55.480 back to a movie, that's how what year was Alien 569 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:56.240 seventy seven? 570 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.519 Yeah, but they're trying to call back, calling back to 571 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.440 the appearance of a character when it wasn't necessary because 572 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:05.960 the thing we're looking at in this movie is not 573 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:07.920 even supposed to be the same thing we looked at 574 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:08.920 in the old one. 575 00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.920 So it was like it didn't even need to look 576 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:12.839 like that person. 577 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:16.519 You know, it's unnecessary, That's what I'm saying. 578 00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:20.400 It look completely completely avoidable, and I did find it 579 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:24.359 weird and distracting, but I mean, look that alone wouldn't 580 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:25.920 have like ruined a movie or anything. I thought this 581 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.200 is solid. I think the end I thought was really cool, 582 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.480 Like the last like twenty twenty five minutes, I thought 583 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:30.839 there's some. 584 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.160 Really cool twenty minutes. I've freaked out. 585 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:35.319 It's cool. Yeah, and then there's like a really cool like, 586 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:36.880 for lack of a better term, like a set piece 587 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:39.880 where there there's certain things in play that I thought 588 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:43.759 were really unique and cool. Yeah. No, I liked it. 589 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:48.440 I've really enjoyed how it It reminded me of The 590 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.720 Force Awakens in the sense that there was some really 591 00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.400 cool mirroring stuff it was doing with the movies that 592 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.359 it's really you know, paying homage to or I guess 593 00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.839 like really strongly calling back to. I could have done 594 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:04.119 with like a few fewer of the Winks, but it 595 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.559 was very entertaining. And again I placed that like right 596 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:10.240 above the middle of the quality of the series. 597 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.680 For me, I put one, two, and maybe three over it, 598 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.200 But I think this, I put this above Resurrection, put 599 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.519 it above prometheas you put it about Alien fors preada 600 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.920 there certainly. Yeah, so yeah, I'd say high middle for 601 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:23.319 me too. 602 00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:28.000 I put those over. I don't know about three, but 603 00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:32.880 I'd put Covenant over it. Prometheus is like my least favorite. 604 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.440 I've been meaning to rewatch three Bonk and I watched 605 00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:37.599 one and two in recent years but then never got 606 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.279 around a three. But I remember thinking it was like 607 00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:41.559 bold in a way, like you know, Fincher making some 608 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:43.839 real decisions, especially with the end that pissed off a 609 00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:46.000 lot of people. I remember thinking that was kind of 610 00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:47.720 a cool, bold thing back when I saw it, but 611 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:48.519 I was a kid. 612 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:54.000 I like, maybe yearly rewatch one, and every time I 613 00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:55.640 watch it, it is one of the few movies that 614 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:59.000 I it genuinely gets better. Every time I watched that. 615 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.960 I realized that almost inevitably's gonna sound like hyperbole, but 616 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.759 it really does, Like no, because you're right between those watches, 617 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.200 you're watching so many other movies that, like the first 618 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:14.000 ten minutes of Alien are just it's quiet shots of 619 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.279 hallways and like really good set design and such natural 620 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:21.599 conversation building up to this horrific fucking thing that happens 621 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.799 that half the actors didn't even know was gonna happen. 622 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.359 It's just one of the more like every time I 623 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.000 rewatch it, I'm like, I don't think I've seen a 624 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.799 movie in the last year. Since I rewatched Alien last 625 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.720 year that has nowed a sense of place and a 626 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:39.400 set of characters and believable human reactions yep to horrific 627 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.400 shit in the last year. Like it's become my metric 628 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:44.599 of what a good movie is, and only a few 629 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.079 movies between each rewatch are like, oh right, this, yeah, 630 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:49.359 this was really good, and. 631 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:51.519 You put it in the context of nineteen seventy seven 632 00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.759 and what other movies are doing at the time, and 633 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.559 there's just nothing like this. It's a yeah, I'm right 634 00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:58.079 there with the Mike Bunk and I watched it again 635 00:29:58.200 --> 00:29:59.599 like within the last year, and it's kind of think, 636 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.039 this is my face watching of this, you know. 637 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:03.920 Yeah, And I watched Aliens like three nights ago. That 638 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.319 movie still kicks ass. It's awesome, Like the energy of 639 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.680 that movie, like velocity once things that that movie takes 640 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.720 like fifteen minutes and then all of a sudden, the 641 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:17.039 rest of the movie is just like propulsive toward the end, 642 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.200 it's awesome. Not to say it's there's not like good 643 00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:22.480 pacing and some quiet moments and good characters, but like, 644 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.160 I mean, all due respect to Aliens, that's I'm definitely 645 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.000 more of an alien one person, but it's it's apples 646 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:32.559 and oranges at a certain point, just a great action movie. 647 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:35.680 Anything else, I feel like it's. 648 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.559 I mean obviously a ton but you know, can't can't 649 00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.119 catch up on a month's worth of stuff in a 650 00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:46.640 few minutes. But I'm glad we all got on this. 651 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.279 It was a weekend. Well, yeah, weekend if you're listening now, 652 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.119 we are back from Portland, but as of the recording, 653 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.640 it's this coming weekend. We'll get to catch up. I'm sure. Yeah, 654 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:02.039 Jake will be there. We'll talk about him. 655 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.839 Oh no, keep keep it on the website. 656 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.519 Yeah, Fuckjake dot Org. Oh Todd, I. 657 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:08.359 Haven't bought it yet. 658 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.680 Oh my god, Well we'll expense it. No, I shouldn't 659 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.720 pretend that's what Patroon money is going to. It's gonna 660 00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.640 be really funny, just like a little bit of a 661 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:24.240 little bit of how the sausage is made for anybody 662 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:28.000 who doesn't know. Like basically, when we do actual our 663 00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:31.839 ad reads, when we submit them to sponsors, they get 664 00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:34.839 like a ten second or fifteen second bookends of the 665 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.079 ad so they can hear the context that went into 666 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:39.880 the ad. So I just like the idea of being like, 667 00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.920 so go to Fuckjake dot Org. Hey, guys, do you 668 00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.880 like wine? Do you want to go? It's always funny 669 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.200 to listen to ten seconds before and like every once 670 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.680 in a while I shave it to like five because 671 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.680 out of context, we have some weird conversations. Well it 672 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:56.640 was as well. 673 00:31:57.079 --> 00:31:59.279 Yeah, I like we we didn't even ease into this 674 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.680 bit at all. We always just talk glowingly object Decker, 675 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.799 and then we just decided it's a bit where we 676 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:04.440 all hate him. 677 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.119 Is it funnier if we don't explain it. 678 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:08.920 I don't even know there's much of an explanation. 679 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.279 It's too late. We already explained it. 680 00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:12.279 Fucked that guy. 681 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.519 Okay, do you guys want to talk about video games? 682 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:19.240 Yes, it's party season, boys, you're gonna get your party 683 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:20.559 on always. 684 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:22.000 Oh good. 685 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.319 Well, when I'm partying, I'm glad that I have First 686 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.599 Leaf because it has fantastic personalized wines just for me. 687 00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:32.039 But it's also my secret weapon for holiday season, which 688 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:34.079 is coming up. Mike, what are you doing for your 689 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:35.160 all your fancy parties? 690 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.440 Well, First Leaf's great because even if you don't really 691 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.039 know much about wine, it can help you kind of 692 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:40.559 get into it. It'll ask you, like, what kind of 693 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:42.279 foods do you like? Do you like these bitter things? 694 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.440 You like these buttery things, And it'll kind of extrapolate 695 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.119 from there, and then you can customize your box. Throughout 696 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.160 the years, I've gotten some great stuff from First Leaf 697 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.039 but recently been having a lot of like chilled lighter 698 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.200 reds like Pino Noire bougelt to wave goodbye to the summer. 699 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.680 But definitely getting ready for holiday season and planning on 700 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.319 putting some some heavier stuff like some coast zinfandel in there, 701 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.000 maybe even go go Italian with a few of their options. 702 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.559 I'm looking forward to it. Dan, tell people how they 703 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.200 can prep with the holiday season. 704 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.559 Well, those folks can bring a great bottle to their 705 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.079 next gathering. With first Leaf. You can go to try 706 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.440 first leaf dot com slash fire Escape to sign up 707 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.880 and you'll get your first six hand pick bottles for 708 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.759 just forty four dollars and ninety five cents. That's t 709 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.839 R y F I R S t l e a 710 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.960 f dot com slash fire Escape. Try first leaf dot 711 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:29.920 com slash fire Escape. 712 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.039 All right, it looks like we've all been dabbling in 713 00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:36.160 a bunch of games, diving deeper into a few others 714 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:41.200 since we last spoke as a group. Uh, Dan, I 715 00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:45.839 know you have a long history with Astrobot, since you 716 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.880 had the was it was it was this the game 717 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:50.920 that it turned out Grub was better than you at. 718 00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.599 Yeah, Origin, Well, I actually I was better than him 719 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:55.480 at that on the speed running thing, but this is 720 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.240 a new for This one won't be up until Changer. 721 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.480 Because I think we have it in our notes that 722 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:01.279 Grub was well. 723 00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:03.200 Wikipedia says that too, I was there. 724 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:06.920 I was there. No, No, we'll see when the speed 725 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.920 run mode goes up late this year. But hey, it's 726 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:11.880 one of the greatest games of all time, and it's 727 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.719 easily I would say, my favorite game since Breath of 728 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:15.119 the Wild. 729 00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:17.239 This new Astrobat is. 730 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.719 The New Astrobat is among my favorite games ever. It 731 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:26.239 is unreal how fucking good it is. It is. I 732 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:30.440 don't know if you played much of Playroom or Rescue Mission. Yeah, 733 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.119 they're amazing, but it's like there was like caveats with 734 00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:34.880 both where it's like, god, damn it, this is amazing. 735 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.000 But you know, Rescue Mission is VR and I don't 736 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:38.519 want to wear this clunky thing and you can't really 737 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:41.159 play it on your PS five. And you know, Playroom 738 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.800 is like incredible, but it's very very short. It's it's 739 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.920 basically like a you know, few RS line. It's like 740 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.280 a demo that comes at your PlayStation, but an incredible one. 741 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.920 And all I'd wanted was like a full on game. 742 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.239 Made by them, and they did it, and they did 743 00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:58.039 it exactly right. It Oh my god, it's like it's 744 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:02.079 I've never ever compared platformers to Mario in terms of 745 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:04.599 like putting it on that same level of quality, but 746 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.119 I will put this up there with Mario Odyssey with 747 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.119 six or four all see right now, It's definitely better 748 00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:13.360 than Super Mario Sunshine. And you know how I talk 749 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.400 about that game. I love it, but it's deeply flawed. 750 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:20.960 Astrobot is not flawed. I look, I haven't beat it yet. 751 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:24.280 I'm like, I've only been playing for the last like 752 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.119 twenty four hours when I started it because I've been traveling, 753 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.519 but as soon as I got back I started. But 754 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.719 as of right now, I want to use the word perfect, 755 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.559 and I don't ever use that word. I've used that 756 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:41.039 for like Mario World and Link to the Past. You know, 757 00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.440 I don't use that word often with games. This is 758 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.000 a game that when I used to review all the time. 759 00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:51.000 Now I gave five out of five's at Giant Bomb 760 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.679 because it was a five star system and the five 761 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.159 is easier to give out than a perfect ten. But 762 00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:58.159 when I've had a ten point system at a game 763 00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.119 and former and before I never gave out tens. I 764 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.719 reviewed a thousand games on ten point systems. I gave 765 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.599 out one ten, and that was to link between worlds. 766 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.119 This I would not hesitate to give a ten to again, 767 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.840 have not beaten it yet, but there's just not even 768 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:15.880 a question in my mind. 769 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.480 What is there? Yeah, what's how is it like a 770 00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.480 full game? Are they doing like a different like more 771 00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:24.639 varied worlds, et cetera. 772 00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:26.960 Oh yeah, yeah, So it's really great with the variety 773 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:28.920 because like some of them, I'd say, a lot of 774 00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.960 the bigger levels are more I don't want to say, 775 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.599 like open hubs like Mario sixty four style. They are 776 00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.440 more like there is a place you start and you 777 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:43.159 are kind of working generally linearly towards an end point, 778 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.800 but like there are larger like areas in between where 779 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:49.119 basically instead of stars like in Mario sixty four or 780 00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:51.880 Odyssey in the moons, you're finding bots and like, you 781 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.480 don't have to rescue these bots to beat the levels. 782 00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:56.840 Actually you do eventually, Like some bosses and stuff are 783 00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.639 gated by like, oh, you need seventy bots to break 784 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.400 this law can fight the boss or whatever, So at 785 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:02.760 a certain point you do need to get a certain 786 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.000 amount of bots, but you can beat a level and 787 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.559 progress to a point without getting them. But I was 788 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:10.760 obsessive every single level I did. I would not move 789 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:12.480 on to the next one unless I got every bot, 790 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.039 every puzzle piece, Like these big ones typically have seven bots, 791 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.639 and you know, some of them are just normal bots 792 00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.960 hiding or in peril, and some of them are actually 793 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:22.400 a lot of them. I want to say, it's like 794 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:26.639 one hundred and sixty nine are references to PlayStation first 795 00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.239 party stuff, and there happens if I saw one about 796 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.800 an hour before we started recording, where I seriously looked 797 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.480 out loud by myself, so are you fucking kidding me? 798 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.320 That I couldn't believe they included this fucking character in 799 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.039 the game. It's one that I love a lot, but 800 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.679 no one ever talks about. So it's yeah, it's got 801 00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:43.760 like the obvious PlayStation stuff, like you know you're gonna 802 00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:45.599 see Crash Bandicoot and the Last of Us characters in 803 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:48.280 metal gear and stuff like that. But then there's stuff 804 00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:49.840 where it's just like, oh man, this is a weird, 805 00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.840 deep cut third party thing that I can't believe. What's 806 00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:56.559 that gex? But I haven't seen gats I haven't seen 807 00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.079 gex got I've got crash, but like you can also 808 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.960 like so they populate like this hub area. You're basically 809 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:03.639 like building your ship back and your ship is a 810 00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:06.920 PS five that breaks apart when it crashes, and so 811 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.840 all your little dudes that you rescue, and there's three 812 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.400 hundred total, they kind of get sent to this hub world, 813 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.480 the crash site when you save them, and there's also 814 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.159 a Gotcha machine there, so you're collecting coins throughout the game, 815 00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.239 and you can use coins, you know, one hundred for 816 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.239 a pull of the Gotcha machine, and most of them 817 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.840 are like little props and stuff for like, oh, like 818 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.920 Leon Kennedy. His little prop or set is like a 819 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.400 heartdoor and like a keychain. He's like a little bot. 820 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.280 Leon's like flipping through all these like you know, heart 821 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.559 and spade keys and stuff like that, and you know, 822 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.000 you go up and interact with them, punch them and 823 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.519 stuff like that. And they all have like little flavor 824 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.159 text and one liners that are really clever. But it's 825 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:45.400 just it's got so much personality and everywhere you look 826 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:47.159 in this game, whether it's the hub world or a 827 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:49.599 little linear level or one of the bigger hubs. 828 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:51.960 I I every area. 829 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.679 I go into, I just have to look around at 830 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.039 everything because some of the stuff is like, oh, sure, 831 00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.119 here's a hidden paths to get to a bot, and 832 00:38:58.199 --> 00:38:59.360 some of it is just like, oh, I don't know, 833 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.440 here's this fun little here's a little bot, you know, 834 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.039 squirrel that's like popping out of the ground with a 835 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:05.840 golf ball and you look around and you're like, oh, 836 00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:07.719 there's a golf hole over there, and you're trying to 837 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:09.400 like hit the ball into the hole and that might 838 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:10.679 get you a puzzle piece that might just be a 839 00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:15.280 little animation. But there's just so much personality everywhere. There's 840 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.960 so much discovery. There's more like discovery and joy in 841 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.400 the first level of this game than in like almost 842 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.199 any other full game. It's and down to like the 843 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:25.079 little tiny things. Like one of the first levels is 844 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.320 this creamy canyon and it's like a snow level, but 845 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:29.679 everything is kind of like ice cream, and you know, 846 00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:31.119 so as you're going through the snow, you see the 847 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.079 ground underneath it is like waffle cone texture, and you know, 848 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.039 the trees are waffle cones with like soft soft serve 849 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.679 ice cream. But then there's sprinkles all over the ground 850 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.960 and like the physics going on in this game, like 851 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.440 just piles and piles of sprinkles and it's so fun 852 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.880 to just run around and punch the sprinkles everywhere and 853 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:48.719 the stuff it does. You know, this is the first 854 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:50.800 party PlayStation game, and it really makes a lot of 855 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.679 use out of the controller motion stuff, you know, all 856 00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.159 the like very specific little happic feedback stuff. It is 857 00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:01.239 so just the tactile like sensation of going through a 858 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.840 pile of leaves or sprinkles or whatever are done way 859 00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:06.840 better here than any like rumble thing I've ever felt before, 860 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.679 even like they're. 861 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.760 Known for their physics. Like I remember an early like 862 00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:16.400 the first Astro bought there was a water world and 863 00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.039 it was so much fun and there was an area 864 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.599 where I think you wore like a floaty tube or 865 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.159 whatever and you had to float on the waves of 866 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.559 the water. And I remember thinking, like for like a 867 00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:31.559 game that a little studio put together, I was like, 868 00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.079 this is incredible the physics of this water. Yeah, the 869 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.760 puzzles they did with it were really cute and innovative too. 870 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.719 Yeah, that's all over this too, Like the uh, there's 871 00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:42.400 a lot of water physics, a lot of liquid stuff 872 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:44.800 going on. There's like the some of the powers you get. 873 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.000 One of them is like this little elephant backpack you get, 874 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.559 and if you go on top of like honey or 875 00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.559 like goo, you can pull the right trigger to kind 876 00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:53.480 of suck it up and that'll give you three charges 877 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:55.480 of like if you jump and you hit our two, 878 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.559 the elephant will like spit it down. And so if 879 00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.000 it's like the uh, if it's this one like green 880 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.960 and Go, it'll create this like plant platform. It's kind 881 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:04.840 of like the cloud Mario thing and Mario Galaxy, so 882 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.079 you can create platforms in the air with this like 883 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.960 elephant thing. There's one where you're a fucking sponge. You 884 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.320 turn astrobot into a sponge, and if you jump into 885 00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.079 a bottle of water or a body of water, he 886 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.239 gets really huge and you can kind of stomp around 887 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:17.840 and run through walls and stuff, and then if you 888 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:20.400 are too again, you squeeze yourself out and also shoot 889 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:21.800 a lot of water out, so you can put out 890 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.880 flames or create platforms and lava. Like. It's got a 891 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.880 ton of powers, which like Mario and other platforms have done, 892 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.039 but it's all stuff that I haven't seen before, where 893 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.360 it's like, Okay, you got these two froghands that turn 894 00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.840 into like basically like extendo boxing gloves or grappling hooks 895 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.559 for like swinging on stuff, or yeah, you're a sponge 896 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.679 or you know, you've got this weird goo sucking elephant 897 00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:44.199 on your back, and like all this shit is really 898 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.239 fucking fun. I'm smiling the entire time I'm playing this game. 899 00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:51.559 The boss fights are incredible, the animation, the actual gameplay 900 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:53.920 of them, the variety and the levels. You know, it's 901 00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.440 rarely just like oh, here's the lava level, here's the 902 00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:58.400 ice level, Like they all have their fun little twists 903 00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:03.320 on it. Fuck, it's i mean, every second I'm playing 904 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.119 this game, I'm just like, I have no complaints. I 905 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:10.039 can't complain about this game. It's everything's so fucking snappy 906 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:11.960 that the hub world's nice. Everything goes in and out 907 00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:16.119 with like almost no load times. It's just there's one 908 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:18.440 part in this one level. It's called like Funk of 909 00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:20.880 Trunk of Funk or something. You'll know it when you 910 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.000 get there, but like you just start doing like a 911 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.559 random thing in the level, and then the thing happens 912 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.800 where I'm just staring and watching this for a while, 913 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.639 I'm like, this is crazy and hilarious and awesome, and 914 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.000 I just want to soak in every fucking nook and 915 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.159 cranny of this world. It's uh and then just the sheer, 916 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.840 just platforming, the control, the way it feels to run 917 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:43.199 around as Astrobot is untouched. I mean, you go on 918 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.239 ice and you're skating, and when you jump, it's a 919 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.000 pure wet and you know, there's the attention to detail. 920 00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:51.679 Is is fucking crazy in this game. It's one of 921 00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:53.400 the rare times I can think like, I'm going to 922 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:55.840 be so bummed when this game is over, and I'm 923 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:58.559 already looking forward to the speed around DLC. I'm definitely 924 00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.760 going to platinum this game, which I really do that 925 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:01.679 with games these days. 926 00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:04.159 But uh yeah, without reservation. 927 00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:06.280 Just based on the first two and a half Worlds, 928 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.400 I've played, one of the best games of all time 929 00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:11.880 and my favorite game at least since twenty seventeen. 930 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:18.559 Sounds all right fine looking forward to playing it. I 931 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.719 that like, it also sounds like gonna be a good 932 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.920 palette cleanser. For no, that's not the right word. So 933 00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:26.360 many of the games I've loved this year have either 934 00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:31.280 been like very very big like open world kind of 935 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.280 stuff or small contained, very focused indie things. This sounds 936 00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.000 like it'll be a good way to get back to 937 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.079 that like really creative triple A space. 938 00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:41.719 Yeah, but it's also really good at like if you 939 00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.039 want to sit down for hours and really like you know, 940 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.639 say fifty bots, you can. But there's also times where 941 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:48.199 it's like, oh, I got to leave for this doctor's 942 00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.360 appointment in twenty minutes, and I'll load it up and 943 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.400 I'll pick because you can see on the hub world like, oh, 944 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.840 this one has seven bots to rescue in three puzzle pieces, 945 00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.320 or this one has one, so like, oh, this is 946 00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.159 going to be a short, little challenge level, so you 947 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:00.519 can crank out a few of those on the hub 948 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.639 world and you know, have a good fifteen minute session 949 00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.920 with the game and be done. Yeah, it's I cannot 950 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:08.599 wait to play more of it. I will probably do 951 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:09.960 that tonight as soon as we're done recording. 952 00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.559 Wow, I mean that sounds really exciting. I really liked 953 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.840 the last Astrobot I played, and it was one of 954 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.079 the very few games that when my parents visited me 955 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.760 and my parents are not gamers, I was able to 956 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.239 give them the controller and they could functionally like run 957 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:26.679 around and understand what was going on. I think it's 958 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:30.920 like it's skilled and challenging, but it's also so lenient 959 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:32.880 to people who are like, what's a game. 960 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.480 That's a great point because really most of what you 961 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.280 do is X and square exes jump X again is 962 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.960 to do the laser hever squares punch. You can hold 963 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:43.719 square to charge punch, and then like when you get 964 00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.159 the power ups, it's L two and R two to 965 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:48.719 do some stuff. But it's pretty easy to explain, so 966 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:50.360 I think like a kid or someone who's not a 967 00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.960 traditional gamer could really enjoy it. But also there's like 968 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.159 for someone like me that wants to get everything, like 969 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:58.119 there is a good amount of challenge and like, oh 970 00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:59.519 how do I get to that bot? Where am I 971 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.159 missing this? And then you know the fact that it's 972 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.880 so good. It controls so well that it lends itself 973 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.079 to speed running well, like that can be extremely high 974 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.199 level play if you want to, or you can hand 975 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:10.800 this controller to a six year old and they're probably 976 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.400 also gonna have a really fun time just looking at 977 00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:17.760 all the incredible visuals and personality. It's yeah, it's a 978 00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:19.800 genre that I care so much about and I love 979 00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.559 so much, but I just feel like outside of the 980 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:26.400 core Mario games, it's not I mean you'll see like 981 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.079 there's a lot in the ndie space and a lot 982 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.119 that I have enjoyed, but I still think there is 983 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.599 so much more room for great three D platformers and 984 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.599 like to see something on this level of quality that's 985 00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.880 not just the next Mario game. I really I hope 986 00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:40.400 it does well and I want to see more of 987 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.480 this because it is this. This is the type of 988 00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:44.920 game that makes me love video games. 989 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.079 Yeah, it's three D platformers have been one of those 990 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:54.280 genres for years now. In saying like Nintendo's the only 991 00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:58.079 thing keeping it from truly going extinct, like it's extinct 992 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.639 is super strong because there are some you know, quote 993 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.039 unquote like smaller budget games that have been doing some 994 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.159 really cool stuff. But again, it is nice to see 995 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:11.239 like PlayStation come out with its version of its swing 996 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:15.559 at Mario in twenty twenty four. They've had obviously they 997 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.719 have PlayStation has no shortage of like notable mascots in 998 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.519 the platforming space, but nothing that really went for that 999 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:24.440 the breadth and creativity at Mario. 1000 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:27.159 I mean, there was that period in PS one where 1001 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.239 you know, Crash was kind of a big thing, but 1002 00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.840 like I liked Crash, but well yeah, but you know 1003 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:34.960 Spiro at the time, you know, a third party and 1004 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:36.880 you know, Crash was very much like the like first 1005 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:41.400 party attempt, and even at its peak I liked Crash Bandicoot, 1006 00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.000 it was not on the same level of Mario you know. 1007 00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.719 Those games same thing as like, you know, like those 1008 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.320 were great. I love the first one especially, but like 1009 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.599 those had flaws you had to kind of forgive while 1010 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:52.239 you're playing them. 1011 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.559 And also like Jack and Ratchet, Like I love both 1012 00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:58.280 of those series, but like those were kind of action platformers, 1013 00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:59.960 you know, especially Ratchet with the amount of like you know, 1014 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.639 guns and level up stuff and everything. It wasn't just 1015 00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:04.559 like a pure Mario sixty four style platformer. This is 1016 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:09.480 a pure three D platformer and it is as good, 1017 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.519 if not better, than any Mario game I've ever played, 1018 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:12.920 and I don't say that likely. 1019 00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:16.480 Definitely want to check it out. 1020 00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:22.000 Yeah, yeah, it's what a what a referral? 1021 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.639 I mean, look, I can't hold back. It's this is 1022 00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:28.159 it's making me incredibly happy to play. 1023 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:29.039 Wow. 1024 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.519 All right, so Mary, you have to follow that up. 1025 00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.719 It is Slider one of the best games you've ever played. 1026 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:37.320 I mean, I don't think it's one of the greatest 1027 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:38.320 games of all time. 1028 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:42.039 Move on, Move on, Move on. What about what about Corekeeper? 1029 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.800 Wait? Yeah, Corekeeper is actually pretty cool. 1030 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.480 Nah, nope, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Slider. What's 1031 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:51.559 what's going on with Slider? 1032 00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:56.079 Okay, Slider is going back to remember how we were like, 1033 00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.280 we don't like the puzzles where you like move a 1034 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:04.760 slide down ranger. That's all Slider is wo But they 1035 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:09.360 did it with puzzles that are really interesting. So, for example, 1036 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.159 you start on one block, so it's let's say it's 1037 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.880 a nine by nine grid. You understand, and you're on 1038 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.159 block one, and it'll be like, you need to get 1039 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.119 this block to the right so that you can get 1040 00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.039 something from the right, and so you slide the block 1041 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.119 over and then you walk off the grid and you 1042 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.679 collect something and that helps you get slide two. Now 1043 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:31.719 you have two slides. You interact with the puzzles in 1044 00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.320 between two slides, that'll give you the third slide, so 1045 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.760 on and so forth, and so you're basically collecting nine 1046 00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.800 slides so that you could move everything around. Despite the 1047 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.440 fact that I've very clearly said I don't like it 1048 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:46.440 when you have to move the nine pieces around when 1049 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.559 you only have four. It's really interesting. It's the puzzle 1050 00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.480 is not about how hard it is to move them around, 1051 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.280 it's wait, how am I moving these pieces around in 1052 00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.960 order to solve this puzzle? And the puzzles are actually 1053 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:04.559 very thoughtful and intra staying I and it evolves incredibly. 1054 00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.679 I cannot believe. I think I'm on Area four and 1055 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.760 the Area four is insane. The puzzle design is so 1056 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.920 complicated and so interesting. It's totally different dynamic than than 1057 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:22.079 Area one. So very advanced at this point, but very intricate, 1058 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:26.920 thoughtful puzzles that will absolutely rack your brain. And I've 1059 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.400 enjoyed running around talking to characters. They'll be like, I'll 1060 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.760 try and give you an example. I was gambling with 1061 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.800 someone and they were like, I won't even talk to 1062 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.679 you unless you can beat my dice. Roll and they 1063 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.639 roll a seven, and so you roll and you roll 1064 00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:44.360 a four and they're like ha, you suck. And then 1065 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:46.639 it's like, oh, wait, I can move the slider and 1066 00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.320 so when I move the world, the dice keep rolling 1067 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.360 and he's like, wait, you Chang, how are you able 1068 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.679 to change your slider, and so like, now I can 1069 00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:57.199 change my dice roll and beat him and get a 1070 00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:02.559 slider and another one. I'm like doing a race, and 1071 00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:06.639 what I do is you cannot beat them physically. They're 1072 00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:10.519 faster than you. But if I go down and then 1073 00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:12.719 I slide it over twice and then go up, I 1074 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.880 can beat them. And so it's about putting all the 1075 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:18.679 slides in the right spot, thinking about what the game 1076 00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:21.920 wants you to do to solve these puzzles, and interacting 1077 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.320 with the characters to figure out what every person needs 1078 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:26.559 or their desires are in order to get it done 1079 00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.760 on time. It's a brain buster. 1080 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.920 So I'm looking at a video of this right now. 1081 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.679 This is free to play, kind of a game Boy 1082 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:36.920 style like art style. 1083 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.480 It does have a game Boy it's like black and white. 1084 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:43.239 Yeah. Yeah, it says it's free on Steam. Is that 1085 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.559 the I have to just always wonder like is there 1086 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:49.079 end game? Like is there a catch there? Or what's 1087 00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:49.519 the deal? 1088 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:52.599 How did I acquire this? 1089 00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:55.840 I'm looking at it says free. 1090 00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.559 I guess I just I guess I just downloaded the 1091 00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:00.000 free game. 1092 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:03.760 Yeah, here's Slider releases for free. Sliders now available three 1093 00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.679 your journey. How did they how do you do that? 1094 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:10.719 I don't know. There's no like secret you know, Dorito's 1095 00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:13.639 ads in there. I don't know they did it. It's 1096 00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:14.440 not a virus. 1097 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:16.719 You just don't see that. 1098 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.920 I think I found a couple games on Twitter this 1099 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.280 last these last few weeks, and it won Best Student 1100 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.320 Game at the IGF. And I'm a big sucker for 1101 00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.519 the IGF. I love when they helped me discover like 1102 00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:34.199 unique puzzlers. I really have to recommend this. I was 1103 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:36.360 very surprised now that I know it's free too, like 1104 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.480 that changes everything, but like I forgot that I how 1105 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:43.480 I acquired this quite frankly, but like so many interesting 1106 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:48.760 different puzzles that really rack your brain. And uh, this 1107 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:50.519 is a bit of a cheat, but I think it's 1108 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.599 worth letting you know that when you're playing this, if 1109 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:56.760 you get really really stuck, there is a one button 1110 00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:00.559 that gives you three hints before telling you that solution. 1111 00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.639 And I love that because it's not just about moving 1112 00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:06.760 the sliders where they need to be a lot of it. 1113 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.599 The puzzles are complicated and you're like, I actually don't 1114 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.599 understand how to solve this, and so the game will 1115 00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:17.159 give you one to three hints before they actually literally 1116 00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:18.679 say this is what you need to do. Ding dong. 1117 00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.400 And it's nice text. 1118 00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:22.920 Base or is it like stuff on the screen, like 1119 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:23.679 pointing at things. 1120 00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:26.239 It's text. It's like I think it actually takes you 1121 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:28.559 to the steam page, and the steam page is like 1122 00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.960 a text based walk through, but again, it gives you 1123 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:36.440 multiple hints before it actually just tells you what to do. 1124 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.559 And I love a hint or too when I'm getting 1125 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:44.679 stuck after a certain amount of time. Yeah, it's it's 1126 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:48.320 hard to describe, you know, outside of just sliding the 1127 00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:51.880 world around. But I've had a lot of fun just 1128 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:54.039 moving the world around and figuring it out. I'll give 1129 00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.239 you another one. Like there's one where someone's like, I'm fishing, 1130 00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:00.599 but the the fish can't get upstream, so there's no 1131 00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.679 fish anymore. And you'll notice that all the sliders have 1132 00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:05.480 a river in them, and it's like, oh, I'll just 1133 00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:08.559 complete the river, and if you move all the slides 1134 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.199 in the right spot, the fish go upstream and now 1135 00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:13.800 the fishermen can fish, and they give you another slide. 1136 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:14.639 Oh cool. 1137 00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.119 Stuff like that. It's just neat, But they don't say 1138 00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:20.920 complete the river. The guys just like these fish ain't bite, 1139 00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.280 no mo And then you have to be like, why 1140 00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:25.880 aren't the fish biting anymore? Well, the river isn't completed. 1141 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.719 Hey there's river. If I put all these sliders in 1142 00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.559 a certain order, then the river would be completed. Bing 1143 00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:32.559 bang boom. 1144 00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:36.400 That's a game that sounds better than just like slide 1145 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:38.000 puzzles for slide puzzle's sake. 1146 00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:42.039 That's one hundred percent. What I don't like about the 1147 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.199 Nine Slides is that it's you know what you're trying 1148 00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:48.639 to do. You're like, I'm trying to make a snowflake, 1149 00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:51.320 but I can't get the one where I want it. 1150 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:53.719 I hate puzzles like that. That's not what this is. 1151 00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.639 This is there's four sliders. It's very easy to move 1152 00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:02.000 them around, but how are you getting them into the spot? 1153 00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:04.719 And what spot do you want them in? Because there's 1154 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:07.440 a puzzle that you're solving, and that's interesting to me. 1155 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:09.559 So that's why I think it gets away from the 1156 00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.760 trope or like from that annoying type of puzzle design. 1157 00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:16.480 This one's more about like what are you trying to solve? 1158 00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:17.840 Not how you solve it? 1159 00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:19.039 Nice? 1160 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:23.079 Yeah, I think it's cute. It's free. Can't beat that. 1161 00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:29.199 I'm also playing a game called core Keeper. Now this 1162 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.320 one I'm interested in. 1163 00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:34.719 It's uh, are you playing on game Pass or what 1164 00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.199 are you playing on? Because it came early last year, 1165 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:38.679 I believe. 1166 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.360 Yeah, I bought it. I bought it on Steam. 1167 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.559 I know. Did you know it was on game Pass? 1168 00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:46.400 Yes? 1169 00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:47.840 Okay, okay, I. 1170 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.400 Think it's an intentional kish because. 1171 00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:53.519 If you don't, if you want it on PC and 1172 00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:54.440 not Xbox. 1173 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:57.119 Then I don't want it on x Well, you can 1174 00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.000 play Xbox games on a PC. Yeah, I want to 1175 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:01.039 on my Steam deck. 1176 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.360 Okay, fair enough, gotcha. 1177 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:08.320 I didn't know it was on game Pass though, because 1178 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:10.559 it only just gets no an educated decision. 1179 00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:14.079 But it was like early access early last year, memory serves. 1180 00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.920 Yeah, this game fucking slaps it is. I want to say, 1181 00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:24.519 eight player online co op. It has Terraria slash Minecraft vibes. 1182 00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.320 You start in the middle of nowhere, like in a 1183 00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.920 hole in the ground, and you have to make everything. 1184 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.840 So you have to make your first pick axe, you 1185 00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.119 have to make your first shovel. They're made of dirt 1186 00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.119 or crap, and you just slowly like hack away at 1187 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:44.199 the dirt. There's an energy system, a food system, so 1188 00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.440 you get hungry because you're you know, chopping at the 1189 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:49.599 dirt and you have to eat mushrooms and stuff in 1190 00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:53.559 the world, but the real joy comes from playing with 1191 00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:58.840 other people and beating the bosses. There's bosses in the 1192 00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:03.360 in the world andvarious locations, and so when you're playing 1193 00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:06.800 with other people, you just slowly will find these very 1194 00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.920 aggressive bosses and you have to work as a team 1195 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:11.719 to tear down these giant bosses and kill them in 1196 00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.719 different ways. One of them is like a huge worm, 1197 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:18.480 and it's impossible to just hit this worm to death 1198 00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.159 because it's too fast. So everybody's basically like cool, we 1199 00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.280 need to make traps. So like I'm gonna go mine 1200 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:29.079 iron and like you get a bunch of food and 1201 00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.519 so that we can cook it and it'll give us 1202 00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:36.840 three times our damage and then we'll trap it and 1203 00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.679 then we'll all take our food and get three times 1204 00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:41.880 damage and we'll hit it simultaneously. And that's how you 1205 00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.880 like take down the bus. So it's teamwork. It's world building. 1206 00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:50.800 Oh there's there's like some just casual stuff in here too. 1207 00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.679 I got animals and I put them in a farm 1208 00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.280 and I milk them, and I drink the milk for 1209 00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:02.519 a defense increase. And I have a farm and I 1210 00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:05.840 farm all the food for the team, So I've kind 1211 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.800 of become like the farmer person that makes the crops 1212 00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:12.480 and the meals and the milk, and then I go 1213 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:13.599 kill bosses with it. 1214 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.320 So are the bosses just like like wandering the world? 1215 00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:19.679 Like is it like, oh, this guy stops around the 1216 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.800 forest here, so stay away. Yeah, I was taking to Bellheim. 1217 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.760 It kind of sounds like that. 1218 00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:28.800 It does now because they can really they can section 1219 00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:33.079 off the world better because there's certain areas that you 1220 00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:35.559 wouldn't be able to get to with your level one axe, 1221 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:39.440 Like the dirt won't break. It's like too hard, and 1222 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.519 so you can't get there till later. So they've kind 1223 00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.119 of determined that you're going to go to certain bosses 1224 00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:49.400 first and then once you kill them, you'll get an 1225 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:51.599 item that you bring back to your base. There's also 1226 00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.599 like some kind of like supernatural stuff going on, and 1227 00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.079 so when you like bring the egg back to your dome, 1228 00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:00.320 it'll it'll light up some lights and be like, now 1229 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.440 your next boss is over here. So it does have 1230 00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.679 that vibe to it, but you can also build a house, 1231 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.960 oh that's also like Felheim, and live in it and 1232 00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:13.239 just enjoy the experience of like making beds and decorating. 1233 00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:15.800 I painted my house, which I thought was pretty rad. 1234 00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:17.800 So you can kind of decide what kind of person 1235 00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:20.480 you want to be. There's a lot of different characters 1236 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:26.880 that you can build and grow. I started as a ranger, 1237 00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:29.400 but I really grew my farming skills. The more you 1238 00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:32.000 do something, the more you'll get points in that system 1239 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:34.800 and grow that system. So I became quite an avid 1240 00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:40.719 farmer and fishermen and just animal trainer. And whereas like 1241 00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:43.519 other people, they became like a really good swordsman because 1242 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.480 they were just running around killing stuff the whole time. 1243 00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:48.559 So you you grow your skill tree in what you're 1244 00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:53.599 doing the most. I have poured hours into this I 1245 00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:56.760 am blown away, very similar to Minecraft. How you can 1246 00:58:57.480 --> 00:58:59.559 throw eight hours into this game and be like what, 1247 00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.840 we spent the whole day doing that, and I did. 1248 00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:05.760 I spent multiple full eight hour days playing this game, 1249 00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.639 and I was never bored or felt like I didn't 1250 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:10.400 know what to do. The only time I got frustrated 1251 00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:14.920 was I think I'm on a boss that does lightning damage. 1252 00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:18.480 It can really zip Zapia and we keep dying, and 1253 00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.719 so that's kind of frustrating, but it's just like, obviously 1254 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.400 we have the wrong tactic or we need to like 1255 00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.639 up our food supply before we take it down. But 1256 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:28.400 it's really fun getting a bunch of people together and 1257 00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:31.920 being like we're all gonna kill this boss and picking 1258 00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:35.840 out ye. I feel like this game is meant to 1259 00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.599 play with friends. I think you could have fun by yourself, 1260 00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:43.920 because much like Terraria, it's about exploration and building and 1261 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:48.199 you can play your way. I just think that the 1262 00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:53.159 true joy in it for me is running around with buds, 1263 00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.039 hacking into the dirt and not knowing what is next, 1264 00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:58.920 and so if there is a boss back there, we 1265 00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:01.000 can all take it down together. So I think that's 1266 01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:03.559 kind of what I like about it. It's really fun 1267 01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:05.880 to like get on Discord and play this. So I 1268 01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:07.920 think it's a great team game. 1269 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:10.519 I've heard great things about it when it was Early 1270 01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:11.760 Excess last year. 1271 01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:15.960 It's smooth too for eight people drop in drop out, 1272 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.239 like not a lot of technical issues. I was pretty 1273 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:24.039 amazed with how seamless it was. Somebody basically hosts and 1274 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:26.599 the server and you can have your little characters join, 1275 01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:29.599 and you can have multiple characters. So I have a 1276 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:31.400 character who's more of a farmer, and I have one 1277 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:33.320 that's more of a ranger, and I have you know, 1278 01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:36.719 you can you can really expand the way you want 1279 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.079 to play this. But I see stuff like this and 1280 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.280 I just think it's so brilliant and like the future 1281 01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:46.320 of games. This is like everybody from around the world 1282 01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:49.760 pop in here and just play on one server. I 1283 01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:53.320 think it's awesome. I love shit like this, and I 1284 01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:56.199 hope this game does well because it's the kind of 1285 01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:57.280 game that I love to play. 1286 01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:00.960 Would be a fun fire skate game, I think. 1287 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:01.079 So. 1288 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:03.360 I think you're gonna have a lot of fun, like 1289 01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:05.119 deciding what kind of person you want to be. And 1290 01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:07.320 it's also nice when someone's like, I've discovered how to 1291 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:12.079 make train tracks and or like tracks and then we 1292 01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.519 can all like fast travel different places by getting in 1293 01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:16.880 a little cart and getting on tracks and stuff like that. 1294 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:19.239 You remember, like Dan, the first time you got like 1295 01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:21.000 a horse in Stardoo, and you're like, this is the 1296 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.960 greatest thing on Earth. It's really fun to like find 1297 01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:28.599 travel systems and get fast and speedy, or find a 1298 01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:31.679 really fucking good gun because you like killed some guy 1299 01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:34.079 for it. Now you just have like the most powerful weapon. 1300 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:34.880 It's really fun. 1301 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:40.840 Nice you mentioned to Stardo. Uh, have you played Fields 1302 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:41.280 of Mystery? 1303 01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:42.320 Yes? 1304 01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:48.360 I thought, did. I I like it. My response was, 1305 01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:53.679 it's very Stardoo, almost to a fault, because I like 1306 01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:55.880 Stardoo and I can always play Stardoo, and it's just 1307 01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:59.559 like this is kind of Stardoo, but everyone's smoking hot, 1308 01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:03.639 and I have enjoyed it, and I've put in not 1309 01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:05.639 that many you want to say, like eight hours into it, 1310 01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.519 but I just feel like I've already played this game 1311 01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:11.440 and it's called Stardo. 1312 01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:13.920 That's the thing is like I have every time I've 1313 01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:17.199 recommended this, I'm like Giant Bomber elsewhere. I've like, I'm 1314 01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:20.039 really enjoying this game a lot. But when it comes 1315 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:24.079 time to differentiate it from start, it's kind of like, hey, 1316 01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:26.760 you can jump. You don't have to fill your watering can. 1317 01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:29.840 You know it's uh, there's a checkbook on the inventory. 1318 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.719 Yeah, yeah, I fill my watering can. 1319 01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:32.400 What's that? 1320 01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:34.400 I fill my watering can? 1321 01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:36.960 I didn't know you could. There's not like a finite 1322 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.199 there's not like a water bar like there is in Stardoo. 1323 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.239 But it says you're out. 1324 01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:44.039 Oh I haven't. Maybe I haven't gotten there yet. I 1325 01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:48.039 have like nine plants. Oh, you can run out. 1326 01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:49.519 You can run out of lot. 1327 01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:51.480 I want to kild it once. That's a deep fucking 1328 01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:54.480 can shit. That was like my one talking boy for 1329 01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:56.320 how it's different. They don't have to fill up the 1330 01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:57.000 watering can. 1331 01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:59.719 You have to fill up the watering can shit. 1332 01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:04.440 Yeah, to start do but you can jump. Yeah. That's 1333 01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.119 the things like I'm trying to figure out, like is 1334 01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:10.800 this game doing anything significantly different or has it just 1335 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:14.000 been long enough? And I like playing Stardoo, you know. 1336 01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.400 And people were starved for something else, right, and the 1337 01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:21.360 Haunted Chocolateeer hasn't come out. I think people are itching 1338 01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:25.320 for something like this, and I do think it scratches 1339 01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:29.880 that itch. I just think for me, I like new experiences. 1340 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.360 I like trying something I've never tried before. And so 1341 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:34.639 for me it was a hard sell because I was like, 1342 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.480 I just feel like I prefer to start new games 1343 01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:41.880 as opposed to playing the same game that I feel 1344 01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:46.320 like I've played. Yeah, I mean they do things a 1345 01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:49.199 little differently, but even just the fact that like on Friday, 1346 01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:51.039 if you go to the bar. All the people are 1347 01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:53.920 there and they're having their little potti. I was like, oh, 1348 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.199 this just reminds me of I Started. 1349 01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:58.400 It really really is. Yeah, And I've like, i know, 1350 01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.920 Started is added a billion things since last time I 1351 01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:02.599 played it, and I've always been like, oh, maybe I'll 1352 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.159 go back to it, and I'm like, I've already played 1353 01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:06.440 this game, and I think so that this being technically 1354 01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:08.480 a new game is what kind of like made me 1355 01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:10.159 okay with like, Okay, it's a new game. I'm not 1356 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:12.719 just playing a game from twenty seventeen but or twenty fifteen. 1357 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.519 Yeah, and it is good, it's well done. 1358 01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:17.320 It's really good. I am really enjoying. I'm going to 1359 01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:20.039 keep playing it. It's a great playing game. But yeah, 1360 01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:21.559 it's definitely Stardu. 1361 01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:22.559 Yeah. 1362 01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.960 It also has like the same systems of like collect 1363 01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:29.880 them all right, oh yeah, the museum, the museum. 1364 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.400 Yeah. But and that's another reason I was hesitant to 1365 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:35.519 criticize it for being too much like Started, because Starty 1366 01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.679 was just doing Harvest moot. So it's not like Started 1367 01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:39.719 was like We've invented a genre, you know. It's like, no, 1368 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:42.719 it just did a really good one. Modern times you know. 1369 01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:45.960 At a perfect time too, when people really looking for 1370 01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.960 something like that right, Like it really says timing is everything. 1371 01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:53.400 For all we know, somebody right now is making the 1372 01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:57.320 perfect dig Dug duplicate and now everyone will be like, 1373 01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:59.519 this game is brilliant. How come it's never been done before? 1374 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:04.320 World Steam World dig Doug. 1375 01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:05.599 All right, I'm in. 1376 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.119 It's like the same thing, but if you do it 1377 01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:13.960 at the right time, it's brilliant. And I do think 1378 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.360 that Fields of Mystery is a solid stardoo for the 1379 01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:22.000 Stardoo enthusiast. I I'm playing other things. 1380 01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:23.800 Sure, yeah, there's a lot now right now. 1381 01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:28.119 So what else, Mike, we haven't talked to you in 1382 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:28.519 a while. 1383 01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:34.679 I've been playing several things, but the one I have 1384 01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:38.440 been enjoying the most is Tactical Breach Wizards. 1385 01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:39.239 I started that. 1386 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:43.679 Yeah, I like the game a whole lot. From the 1387 01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:47.840 developer of Heat Signature, among other things. Look that up 1388 01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:51.840 just to make sure I'm Tom Francis, I believe. Let 1389 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.280 me just look that up quick. The x Calm one right, 1390 01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:57.199 Uh yeah, x Comm. 1391 01:05:57.079 --> 01:05:58.880 Camera Squad something Mike would like. 1392 01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:06.400 Yeah, Wizards, uct and Druids and ship like that. A 1393 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:12.840 Suspicious Developments uh techle Breech Wizards, Heat Heat, floating gunpoint. 1394 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.960 It's the same game, but everyone's hotter. 1395 01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:22.000 Yeah, with a hot Wizard, Ta Wizards, Bloody Wizards. 1396 01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:28.400 X Comm. You have played XCOM Chimera Squad. That game 1397 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:32.039 is very much about You're actually uh turn based breaching 1398 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:35.800 into these close quarters as opposed to XCOM to Xcom 1399 01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:40.599 and to be unknown within those were outdoors, largely urban environments, rural. 1400 01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:46.280 This is small rooms, but you get different characters who 1401 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:51.119 have different powers, and the world building here is pretty unique. 1402 01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:56.280 They took really like hardcore tactical aesthetics of like a 1403 01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:59.679 Navy seal or a Green Beret or a swat team, 1404 01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:02.440 and then combine them with fantastical stuff like your main 1405 01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:05.800 the first character you have, he's dressed like I don't 1406 01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:10.559 even know, like a ghost recon soldier combined with like 1407 01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.719 a gandalfast looking wizard and clothes like that. And he 1408 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:19.559 has a a light machine gun that like has crystals 1409 01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:23.239 on it that can manipulate time. His power is basically, 1410 01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:29.280 among other things, he generally speaking can kind of just 1411 01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:33.960 set up things one second in the future. He also 1412 01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:36.960 that one second into the future, which I don't know 1413 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:39.960 if you've seen was it Knowing with Nicholas Cage, I 1414 01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:43.519 was knowing and next Knowing is like when he knows 1415 01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:46.800 like nine eleven's coming or something. Yes, one second. 1416 01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.760 One of those is that they make that film. 1417 01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:53.639 We watched it at Post or Not. We watched Next 1418 01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:55.800 Post e three in Venice Mary when we got that 1419 01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:59.880 Airbnb GameSpot crew. Anyway, he could see one second of 1420 01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:01.480 the future, which kind of leads to the end of 1421 01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:06.159 the breach mechanic. So into the breach you get a 1422 01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:07.400 limited number of. 1423 01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:11.719 What fucking value is one second into the future gonna do? 1424 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:16.560 So I was literally about to tell you he can. 1425 01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:17.880 You can set up I know. 1426 01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:20.239 It's gonna happen. You're gonna tell me what's gonna happen 1427 01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:20.920 in one second. 1428 01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:26.840 See, there you go. It's an advantage. You basically can 1429 01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.319 like decide to preview what's gonna happen if you end 1430 01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.840 your turn. That will show you if the stuff you 1431 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.079 did is going to get anybody hurt, if it's going 1432 01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:37.359 to take out all the enemies in one fell swoop, 1433 01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:40.359 or if it's gonna lead to some more catastrophic stuff. 1434 01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:45.680 As opposed to into the breach, these rewinds that you get. 1435 01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:48.880 If you don't like that outcome, you get unlimited rewinds. 1436 01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:51.680 They really want you to like min max this game 1437 01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:54.640 like and like try to get perfect missions in as 1438 01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.880 few turns as possible, as little damage as possible. I'm 1439 01:08:57.880 --> 01:08:59.439 at a point in the game now where I don't 1440 01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:01.520 know how any buddy wouldn't take damage on some of 1441 01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:04.960 these moves. I just like there's another character, for instance, 1442 01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:09.119 she is a more of a witch, and she's got 1443 01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:11.680 like some of this druid stuff like all over her 1444 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:15.319 and among other things she has, like she could just 1445 01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:18.920 like push people out windows and or like levitate stuff 1446 01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:24.479 and also just knock people off course into the first 1447 01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:30.520 characters like Trapsi's set up basically you are doing the 1448 01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.079 into the breach thing where you're using different characters to 1449 01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:35.960 kind of set up this chessboard and then unleash it, 1450 01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:39.600 and then you kind of they give you every tool 1451 01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:43.239 you need to know what's going to happen next. But 1452 01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:45.560 when you end your turn, it seems like. 1453 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:48.159 They're big on like letting you kind of play at 1454 01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:50.880 your pace and your your skill level, because one thing 1455 01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:52.720 I noticed early on was that like you can just 1456 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.479 fucking pick whatever mission you want to do, regardless of 1457 01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:58.119 if you've gotten that far, Like you could like skip 1458 01:09:58.159 --> 01:09:59.600 to the last mission in the game if you wanted 1459 01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.560 to and just start it, which it's rare to see 1460 01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:04.520 that level of just like nap Bucket, Yeah, you can 1461 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:05.680 just get this level yep. 1462 01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:08.239 Yeah. Then you get like character who like it is, 1463 01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:10.279 you know, like has a riot shield and you're going 1464 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:14.520 up against enemies that are like basically traffic police. Like again, 1465 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.720 the world building here is very much like there's a 1466 01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:21.079 lot of humor between missions about like bureaucracy and you're 1467 01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:24.920 kind of playing detective with these characters. But I actually 1468 01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:26.560 find a lot of the writing to be quite funny. 1469 01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:30.439 I wouldn't put it on par with like I'm thank 1470 01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:33.399 goodness you're here. Sure, it's not that funny, but nothing 1471 01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:38.119 is nothing is. And Tackle Breech Wizards I like quite 1472 01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:43.680 a bit. It's very tightly designed. My my gripes are 1473 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.520 kind of the similar things I had with Chimera Squad 1474 01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:49.079 and with Xcom two, which I have also been playing 1475 01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:51.159 a lot of because I saw Alien Romulus and I 1476 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:53.600 was like, oh, Xcom was really inspired by Aliens, So 1477 01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:55.720 I'm gonna go play that again and I've been playing 1478 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:58.479 with more mods, but that's not right now, Mike. 1479 01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:01.000 I would just like credit for hell uh noble, I've 1480 01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:05.159 been for not saying anything. The forty nine times you've 1481 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:06.960 said alien on this podcast. 1482 01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:07.439 Thank you. 1483 01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.600 Yeah, I just want I just want credit for that. 1484 01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:12.800 Please you also, Mary, you heard it too. 1485 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:15.319 It becomes a problem with one of our sponsors, is 1486 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.239 like he's pronouncing our name wrong. You got to re 1487 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:22.880 record this. No, he's just from Syracuse, ye, And like 1488 01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:24.880 there's people from upstate New York listening that are like, 1489 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:26.840 we don't say that. Let's say I don't know where. 1490 01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:30.520 Yeah no. Actually a lot of people curl their a's 1491 01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:31.680 like that up there, but I don't know. 1492 01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:33.680 If it's I've never heard. 1493 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:37.680 That instead of a it's like, ah, like curling Italian okay, 1494 01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:39.920 as opposed to Long Island'd be more like Italian. 1495 01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:43.640 Say the Nintendo's mascot's the name. 1496 01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.159 I grew up saying Mario. But I've now living here, 1497 01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:50.920 I've I've come around to accepting Mario. 1498 01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:54.199 Okay, you've accepted our style. Look it's insane. 1499 01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:58.119 Yeah, no, I mean this like around here you But no, 1500 01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:01.880 I grew up saying Mario Okay, no tactical Breech Wizards. 1501 01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:03.560 I want to keep playing. I love the variety and 1502 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:05.520 the environments too. Some of them you're in office buildings, 1503 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:07.279 some of them you're on like tankers out at sea. 1504 01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:13.439 It's I'm really enjoying the game. It's exactly what I've 1505 01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:15.800 come to expect from the team that made heat signature. 1506 01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:20.439 It's just very tight. I again, I don't sorry, I 1507 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:22.399 don't even know if I finished my thought x Com 1508 01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:28.520 Camera Squad and this. There are certain instances where it's 1509 01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:33.960 actually not completely clear what an attack is going to do. 1510 01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:36.439 And I know I said earlier that you know exactly 1511 01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:38.000 what's going to happen next. You have every tool at 1512 01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:43.199 your disposal. The game gives you as many as it can. However, 1513 01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:46.640 there're sometimes where like visual bugs pop up and that 1514 01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:48.800 gets in the way of you making the right decision. 1515 01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:51.760 It's hard to gripe when you can literally rewind as 1516 01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:54.520 many times as you can. So then I'm like, oh right, okay, 1517 01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:56.680 let me just double check that I'm lining this up 1518 01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:59.600 the way I wanted to. So again, that's like if 1519 01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:02.079 the game and if I like was getting people killed 1520 01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:03.640 like I was in x Com too, and that was 1521 01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:06.960 happening that becomes way more egregious, but here it doesn't 1522 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:11.520 matter that much, but just a really unique, cool, like 1523 01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:14.520 intricate game. I'm getting to the point in the game 1524 01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:16.680 where it does really feel like those hectic. 1525 01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:19.119 Just you know. 1526 01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:23.560 Chess matches that you get into and into the breach 1527 01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:25.720 and you know, you're like starting to really get a 1528 01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:28.479 feel for every character's nuances and how they synergize. And 1529 01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:31.800 then you could pick you can rearrange the doors each 1530 01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:34.399 character is going to breach through, similar to Kimera Squad. 1531 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:37.199 So that adds another layer to like not just what 1532 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:38.600 do I want to do? This turns like how do 1533 01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:41.439 I even want to kick off? This whole puzzle? It's 1534 01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:43.359 absolutely more of a puzzle game than anything. 1535 01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.199 So really cool style too, like I like, you know, 1536 01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:48.399 knocking guys out of windows and the whole like you 1537 01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:50.880 know kind of cop vibe thing in between missions. Like 1538 01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:53.800 it's got a real it's got a real unique feel 1539 01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:54.720 to it, and that I appreciate. 1540 01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:57.319 Yeah, I was trying to put my finger on what 1541 01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:01.439 it looks reminds me of. Visually, It's a cross between 1542 01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:05.560 like Kentucky Roots zero and twelve minutes. 1543 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:07.800 Remember that they were a big twelve minutes guy. 1544 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.520 I never played it. I know people really hated it 1545 01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:12.159 the more they played it, but it's like it has 1546 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:15.720 a similar palette. If sure even makes sense. 1547 01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:16.119 I could see that. 1548 01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:20.079 Yeah, but cool game, and that's I think twenty bucks 1549 01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:25.439 well worth it. Go check it out. Nice Dan, you 1550 01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:29.159 saw some Nintendo stuff. 1551 01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:32.239 I just did. I took some Nintendo appointments at packs, 1552 01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:34.119 which is why this episode is going up with a 1553 01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:37.960 few hours late. Yes, yes, yeah, I'll start with Zelda 1554 01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:41.880 Echoes of Wisdom, which I thought, look, anytime there's a 1555 01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:45.560 new Zelda game announced, my ears perk up. But this one, 1556 01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:47.520 you know, being like a very unique one where it's 1557 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:50.319 oh okay, first full one where you're playing Zelda. It 1558 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:52.159 seems like it might be kind of a swan song 1559 01:14:52.279 --> 01:14:54.359 for the Switch as we go into this last stretch 1560 01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:57.119 of of Switch games. And it's also got that kind 1561 01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.560 of like top down links of Wake any remake art style, 1562 01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:01.560 which I think pretty solid. So like, I like the 1563 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:03.560 idea of using that art style for a whole new adventure, 1564 01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:06.399 and I think this really over delivered. 1565 01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:08.439 I was already really excited for it. 1566 01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:11.520 But playing it and like messing around with the echo system, 1567 01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:13.760 which you've seen that trailer where it's like basically what 1568 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:16.560 she's doing is like creating echoes of enemies and you know, 1569 01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:19.520 torches and rocks and sea urchins and things like that, 1570 01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:22.880 and then using it. Like she does have a sword 1571 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.119 mode that you can use and like attack traditionally like 1572 01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:29.600 in a Zelda game, but that's very very limited. That's 1573 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:32.199 like a bar of energy you've got. So it's the 1574 01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:35.600 echosystem that the first time I played it, it reminded 1575 01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:37.600 me of the first time I played Scribble. 1576 01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:40.279 Knots, where you would get to a puzzle. 1577 01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:42.159 Or something and it would be like, oh, get past 1578 01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:45.119 this thing or defeat this enemy, and you're thinking, like, 1579 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:46.640 you know, you've got this. You know I can type 1580 01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:48.479 in anything, what do I want to do? Like it's 1581 01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:50.880 not quite that level of typing in whatever you want, 1582 01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:54.239 but once you've like assembled a good amount of items, 1583 01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:57.159 it's like, oh, could I climb up above this thing 1584 01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:00.680 and just drop beds on this thing's head? Or you know, 1585 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:02.399 do I want to spawn a bunch of bats and 1586 01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:04.880 attack this enemy? Like it just feels like there is 1587 01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:07.399 a wide variety of ways. Even in like the short 1588 01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:08.880 time I play well, I guess I played like an 1589 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.359 hour and a half, but like you know, had a 1590 01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:14.159 limited amount of echoes. Let's say I had fifteen twenty 1591 01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:17.000 various things I loved every time I encountered like a 1592 01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.680 boss or a puzzle and being like, all right, let's 1593 01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:22.319 see what I got here, and cycling through them is 1594 01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:24.000 kind of like that Tears of the Kingdom style where 1595 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:25.720 you just kind of like hold a deepad button I 1596 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:27.720 think it's a deepbad button, and you cycle through and 1597 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:30.600 you can sort by last used, most frequently used. So 1598 01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:32.640 it's all like, even though it has all these things 1599 01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:36.000 in your inventory, you can cycle between. It's it is 1600 01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:39.399 pretty snappy and easy to access everything, and it just 1601 01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:42.039 leads to a lot of funny situations where it's like, oh, okay, 1602 01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:44.880 I need to get this fire over to these boxes 1603 01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:47.079 to get up to this thing. I wonder if I can, 1604 01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:49.720 you know, put this bed down here and the bed 1605 01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:51.039 catch is on fire, but all of a sudden you're 1606 01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:52.960 just in a flaming bed and links on fire, and 1607 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:53.840 so oh that didn't work. 1608 01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:55.159 Okay, let's try this way here. 1609 01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:58.880 Which it's a really funny thing that if you spawn 1610 01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:00.960 a bed, you can sep in it. I can tuck 1611 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:04.000 under the covers with a and like recover hearts, so literally, 1612 01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:05.680 in the middle of a boss fight, you can just 1613 01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:07.520 like put a bed in the corner and try to 1614 01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:09.079 get a quick nap in to get some like health 1615 01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:10.399 and then pop back up and spawn a bunch of 1616 01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:11.600 bads or spiders or whatever. 1617 01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:13.840 So, yeah, need to break. 1618 01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:17.479 I think, Yeah, there's gonna be some crazy speed run 1619 01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:19.920 stuff for this. I think it's gonna be really cool 1620 01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:22.600 to watch. And yeah, I went from being very curious 1621 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:25.560 too very excited after the ninety minutes we had with it. 1622 01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:26.399 Very cool. 1623 01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:28.479 Yeah, I think it's I think it's gonna be a 1624 01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:32.000 really cool one. And yeah, I always wonder with things 1625 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:33.640 like this, is this a main line entry in the 1626 01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.239 series technically, And they straight up said this is a 1627 01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:38.560 main line entry in the Zelda series, So let's put 1628 01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:39.880 that in the ground right now. It is a main 1629 01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:43.039 line Zelda game. And yeah, I'm sure it'll be the 1630 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:46.319 last like main entry we get on the switch. So yeah, 1631 01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:48.079 it seems like they're going out with a really interesting one. 1632 01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:51.039 Dude, you got to stop with the whole I don't 1633 01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:56.319 want women in my Zelda games. Maybe that's Mike Manad's gimmick. 1634 01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:58.720 That's a Jake Decker. That's Jake Decker. 1635 01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:01.119 Yeah, to fuck Jaked if you want to learn more. 1636 01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:05.159 Yeah, and also leading this to be the most mean 1637 01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:08.520 Nintendo appointment I could have. I saw Zelda and Mario Party, 1638 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:12.279 so I played Super Mario Party Jamboree. We got some 1639 01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:14.800 little miniature looks at like several different modes, so we 1640 01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.439 did a few turns of like the standard party game mode, 1641 01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.159 which I liked. It's got seven boards. It's got too 1642 01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:22.199 If you remember, Superstars was the one that was like 1643 01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:25.760 all classic mini games and maps. This one is mostly 1644 01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:27.840 new stuff. But it's got two classic maps and two 1645 01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:30.600 of my favorites, and it's got like I think it's 1646 01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:33.600 like twenty two characters or something. It's a huge, huge cast. 1647 01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.319 But yeah, it's more straightforward than Super Mario Party, the 1648 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:39.840 last all new one. It kind of does away with 1649 01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.239 the partner system, like the ally thing that they had 1650 01:18:42.279 --> 01:18:43.920 with that, so it's a little more streamlined. Should be 1651 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:45.600 a little easier to just like get new players in. 1652 01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:49.399 But yeah, as far as the main not story mode, 1653 01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:51.439 but the main mode, it's a Mario Party. It's got 1654 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:53.119 a shitload of new mini games, and I really enjoyed 1655 01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:55.800 the ones I played. They also had us play the 1656 01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:59.560 twenty player online mode, which I was a little unclear 1657 01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:02.119 if you you could like party up with or room 1658 01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:03.680 code with like twenty people, Like I don't know if 1659 01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:05.800 we could start a stream and share code and have 1660 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:07.880 twenty people join. They said you could party up with 1661 01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:10.119 eight people, but like a lot of this was a 1662 01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:12.720 little unclear based on my time with it, but we 1663 01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:15.880 did play it with eight people, and it's got like 1664 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:18.520 a racetrack and it's all like bespoke mini games to 1665 01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:21.279 this mode. So it's these modes where you're like fighting 1666 01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:23.960 to get coins and things like that, and live you're 1667 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:27.159 seeing the standings go around the like racetrack and completing 1668 01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:30.239 laps as you go. So it's definitely not the traditional 1669 01:19:30.359 --> 01:19:33.359 roll dice, go to item shops all that stuff intindow game. 1670 01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:36.279 It's a different deal. So I don't know for anyone 1671 01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:38.680 thinking it's a twenty player Mario party thing, just no, 1672 01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:40.560 it's not the traditional Mario party mode. 1673 01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:43.159 But it was fun. It sounds like Fall Guys Adjacent 1674 01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:43.760 or something. 1675 01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:47.079 But yes, there were several several parts where it's like, Okay, 1676 01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:50.319 we're fighting Bowser here and you've got twenty characters and 1677 01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:52.560 you're all running away from Bowser and there's like fire 1678 01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:53.720 and the floor is dropping out. 1679 01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:56.920 Felt very very fall guys. I definitely had that thought. 1680 01:19:57.079 --> 01:19:59.279 Oh yeah, yeah. 1681 01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:00.600 Which, you know, I want to try all he's online, 1682 01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:03.039 Like I love Mario Party, but like you know, I'm 1683 01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:04.439 not against you know, trying some new things with it 1684 01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:06.920 as long as we still have that core board game element. 1685 01:20:07.279 --> 01:20:08.520 And then the other one they had to play was 1686 01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:10.479 an eight player co op mode where you're like on 1687 01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.319 a little stage almost like a Mario Kart battle mode stage, 1688 01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.239 and Bowser is kind of rampaging around or he's imposter 1689 01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:19.439 Bowser technically, and you're running around breaking open these crates 1690 01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:22.479 of bombs and you're all like you know, loading up 1691 01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:24.479 on bombs, loading it into a cannon, and then just 1692 01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:27.439 shotgun blasting Bowser with bombs and he's got a health bar. 1693 01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:30.079 There's many games in between. You can get power ups 1694 01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:31.680 and stuff like if you do good on the mini games, 1695 01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:33.600 it's like now you can get this glove that helps 1696 01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:35.279 you carry you can carry four bombs at a time 1697 01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:37.399 instead of two, or you're doing more damage to Bowser. 1698 01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:39.800 So that was fun. It felt like it was from 1699 01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:41.880 a different game than a Mario Party outside of the 1700 01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:45.000 many games. But again, more modes not a bad thing 1701 01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:46.760 to me as long as you got the core thing. 1702 01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:48.680 And the core thing is more boards, more many games, 1703 01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:52.239 more characters than like any of them have had. So yeah, look, 1704 01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:54.920 it seems like this is another game that I'm going 1705 01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:56.880 to be pulling out every time I go back home 1706 01:20:56.960 --> 01:20:59.640 and playing for player with my sisters and friends and stuff. 1707 01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:02.960 So yeah, Mario Party is alive, and well. 1708 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:04.479 I'm not trying to trigger you, I promise, because I 1709 01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:08.039 enjoy Mario Party. I'm not. My question is you just 1710 01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:10.840 mentioned like the core thing here seems to be more. 1711 01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.439 Has that not always been the case? Like what like 1712 01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:19.439 have mainline Mario Party games introduced like big new wrinkles often? 1713 01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:22.479 Yeah, like Mario Party, I want to say nine and ten, 1714 01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:25.680 definitely ten. The Weiu one had this thing where everyone 1715 01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:27.720 they're kind of trying to speed up the board game 1716 01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:29.800 aspect of it, so everybody was in the same like 1717 01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.479 car driving around the maps to try to get you 1718 01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:34.840 to the minigames faster, and like, honestly, I didn't like 1719 01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:36.600 that nearly as much because like that's part of it 1720 01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:38.520 is everyone's kind of taking their own paths through the map. 1721 01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:41.079 Everyone's getting to Boo first or something. You know, it's 1722 01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:42.960 and so having to everyone in the same car like 1723 01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:45.720 on rails kind of ruin nine and ten for me. Again, 1724 01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:47.359 it might just be ten. It could be nine and ten. 1725 01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.560 And then like Super Mario Party introduced the ally system 1726 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.399 where it's like all the maps have this thing where 1727 01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:56.640 you're basically getting allies that are rolling extra dice with you. 1728 01:21:57.079 --> 01:21:59.800 They're they're going around sometimes. I think they participated in minigames, 1729 01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:02.439 but it's definitely a different, different vibe to it. It 1730 01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:04.880 was an interesting, like I'm not against them trying new things, 1731 01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:08.439 but I don't know, it was a little little distracting 1732 01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:10.560 to be in every map. So this just being a 1733 01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:13.800 little more straightforward and just giving you more characters, more maps, 1734 01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:16.359 more many games like but then having the extra stuff 1735 01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:18.760 be on the side these like side modes. I I 1736 01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:23.000 much prefer this, So yeah, between this and Superstars and 1737 01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:25.439 I like Super Mario Party. But yeah, I think we've 1738 01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:28.920 got three good too great Mario Party games on the switch, 1739 01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:33.239 so it's awesome cool, yeah, yeah, good stuff. 1740 01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:34.439 Right before they get a new switch. 1741 01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:38.680 Yeah, yeah, look, please be backwards compatible with anyone, because 1742 01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:40.159 I want to be able to play all these games. 1743 01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:44.039 Still, did Nintendo Swatch be a bad name? 1744 01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:45.600 It'd be weird to not be able to play like 1745 01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:47.399 tears that Kenya on the next one. 1746 01:22:48.039 --> 01:22:50.479 Yeah, but you know, we saw with Mario Kart eight Deluxe. 1747 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:52.439 It's hey, we're gonna put out that game and charge 1748 01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:54.000 again for it, and it's going to be like one 1749 01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:55.800 of the most the high selling games ever. You know. 1750 01:22:56.039 --> 01:23:01.039 Yeah, Mary, you've been playing something called crypt Custodian. 1751 01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:07.640 Yeah, I'm on my andy shit again. This is a 1752 01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:16.079 metroid vania that I think has promise but is a 1753 01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:19.079 bit rough on the edges. You can tell this is 1754 01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:26.000 a small team, or even smaller than a small team. 1755 01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:28.159 But I I like some of the. 1756 01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:32.840 That would be interesting because it is popular. 1757 01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:35.319 Yeah. 1758 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:39.920 So this is a cat that has gone to hell. 1759 01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:49.079 They are a custodian cleaning up trash in an afterlife, 1760 01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:55.800 essentially as punishment for their crimes against humanity. You sweep 1761 01:23:55.880 --> 01:24:00.760 up trash, you kill any batties that come in your way. 1762 01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:05.880 There's an interesting concept with ghost puzzles. I think that's 1763 01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:09.159 what these are, where essentially you'll see a cat head 1764 01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:11.680 that looks like it's made out of gas, and if 1765 01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.119 you hit it with your broom, it'll fly in the 1766 01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:16.439 direction you want and bounce, So you have to hit 1767 01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:19.800 it in the right direction so that it gets to 1768 01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:21.840 an area where it'll open up a gate and you 1769 01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:25.840 can get some goodies and some secrets. I enjoy the 1770 01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:28.960 puzzle parts of it. I think the combat is not 1771 01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:35.000 impact y for me, doesn't feel chunky when you're hitting enemies, 1772 01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:38.560 and I really do think that a metroidvania needs like 1773 01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:44.359 a chunky feeling when you're hitting stuff. But I do 1774 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:47.720 think that it has a nice expanded map that will 1775 01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:50.039 remind you of a hollow night or or where it 1776 01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:54.680 like really expands over time, and I do like that. 1777 01:24:55.319 --> 01:24:58.640 Much like any metroid vania, you're expanding your skill sets, 1778 01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:01.640 which allows you to traverse the world in new and 1779 01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:04.880 interesting ways, and so I like that about it. I 1780 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:07.560 just think it's a little rough. I wish that it 1781 01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:11.239 was a bit more polished with its combat, which is 1782 01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:15.399 such an important part of metroid vaneas. But I find 1783 01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:17.600 it interesting. I like the idea of being a cat 1784 01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:21.960 in an afterlife, going to a bar and buying little 1785 01:25:22.039 --> 01:25:26.159 juices from a bird and ticking on the boss fights. 1786 01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:29.119 It locks you into spaces certain areas. Once you're in, 1787 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:30.880 you can't get out until you kill what's in it, 1788 01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:35.680 and if you die, you just responded an earlier checkpoints, 1789 01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:39.000 so it's not that punishing. I don't even think it 1790 01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:42.079 has like a soul system, like I remember dying, and 1791 01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:44.319 I don't think I had to like go find my souls. 1792 01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:49.359 It's just a very not punishing death system. So but 1793 01:25:49.399 --> 01:25:54.119 for the cat enthusiast that likes Metroid Vanas, this could 1794 01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:56.920 be for you. I'm gonna keep playing it. I'm not 1795 01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:01.279 done yet. I'd like to get at least five or 1796 01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:03.720 eight hours in before I like make a very distinct 1797 01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:08.119 choice on this. I think it does some creative things 1798 01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:11.560 and also had some interesting boss designs. There was this 1799 01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:14.600 really funky one with arms that comes out of it 1800 01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:16.359 and then it claps you, and I thought that was 1801 01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:20.359 pretty fun, like I like when they have creative designs. 1802 01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:22.640 I also think the art style is nice. It feels 1803 01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:26.720 kind of hand drawn to me. That vibe to it. 1804 01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:31.680 It's almost like a Night In or Knight in the Woods. 1805 01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:32.079 The style. 1806 01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:35.000 Yeah, I think that's a good I think that's really 1807 01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:38.159 fair I think it's good to say that this looks good. 1808 01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:42.560 Oh there's like yeah, there's almost like hyper light drifter 1809 01:26:42.680 --> 01:26:43.800 looking environments too. 1810 01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:47.039 Yeah, it's got a lot of traversal later on. That's 1811 01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:50.880 very heavy platforming, So you're gonna want to enjoy your 1812 01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:56.600 platformings to do this. But I I found that it 1813 01:26:56.680 --> 01:26:59.079 grew on me after a couple hours. I think it's 1814 01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:01.800 unfortunate that may be like the first three hours are 1815 01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:04.199 a little slow, or you might be like this isn't 1816 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:07.000 pushing me enough, this isn't innovative enough. But I do 1817 01:27:07.039 --> 01:27:08.840 think it gets there. You just got to give it 1818 01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:12.720 probably like five to eight hours for it to warm 1819 01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:13.319 up to you. 1820 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:15.279 Yeah. 1821 01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:17.720 I think it's worth playing, especially for someone who wants 1822 01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:19.079 a metroidvany in their life. 1823 01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:24.119 Well. Yeah, the cat looks just like my cat Luna. 1824 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:28.520 It's got that flat evil face for sure. 1825 01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:33.359 Yeah, huge eyes and soulless. No, there's a lot of 1826 01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:34.840 souls to herd. 1827 01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:38.479 It looks like evil. 1828 01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:41.760 No, she's very sweet. She just doesn't like. 1829 01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:46.039 You evil face, evil presence. 1830 01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:47.039 Yeah. I want to try this out. 1831 01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:51.119 Yeah, I think it's worth it. I I have enjoyed 1832 01:27:51.119 --> 01:27:54.000 it so far and do recommend it. I just think 1833 01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:56.000 that it's got some rough edges still. 1834 01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:02.880 Okay, good to know, Dan, anything else you want to 1835 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:03.720 set one, let. 1836 01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:06.359 Me kind of lightening around some short ones here, just 1837 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:08.479 some updates and some new things. While I was in 1838 01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:11.800 London checking out Metal Year Solid Delta, I also played 1839 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:14.479 a game called Deliver at All Costs. It's a new 1840 01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:20.399 one coming from Kanami. It is like a isometric driving game. 1841 01:28:20.439 --> 01:28:21.640 You can get out of your car and run around. 1842 01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.000 But it reminded me of like the early GTAs, but 1843 01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:26.359 you're just like driving around delivering stuff and it's very 1844 01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:28.920 very weird humor. That was very much working for me. 1845 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:30.920 It's a lot of like, Oh, I have all these 1846 01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:34.560 like shitty rotten watermelons that I want to sell, but 1847 01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:37.359 nobody wants them, so I'm going to like take them around. 1848 01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:40.960 Or they were like they were like rotten something, and 1849 01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:43.560 I spray panted them to look like watermelons and spray 1850 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:45.680 them with cologne or something, and just like you do 1851 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:46.920 a bunch of bullshit and then take it back to 1852 01:28:46.920 --> 01:28:48.399 the same place and sell it to them as like 1853 01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:51.239 new watermelons even though they're rotten. Grows fruit or here's 1854 01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:53.319 like a live marlin that I'm strapping to the roof 1855 01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:55.439 of my truck and I'm like driving it around. It's 1856 01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:58.479 a lot of like weird physics stuff, driving through houses 1857 01:28:58.520 --> 01:29:03.039 and fences, and of timed racing delivery kind of GTA 1858 01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:06.479 type missions. But I was very, very impressed by the humor. 1859 01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:09.199 It's very much in that kind of like weird sort 1860 01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:12.640 of fifties kind of you know, Fallout type vibe, but funnier. 1861 01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.520 So yes, I was. I was pleasantly surprised by that 1862 01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:18.640 at an event that was all about metal gear and 1863 01:29:19.039 --> 01:29:24.319 silent Hill metal gear. I will say just the short version, 1864 01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:26.479 it's very very good. It's exactly what I think I 1865 01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:29.079 would want out of a Meddle Year Solid three remake. 1866 01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:31.720 For my full thoughts on it, I pulled out the 1867 01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:34.439 old writing chops again. I wrote an article for GameSpot 1868 01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:37.319 dot com, so if you just search GameSpot metal Gear Delta, 1869 01:29:37.359 --> 01:29:39.399 you'll probably see my thing. I also put up a 1870 01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:42.159 video on game spots YouTube where I narrated with some 1871 01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:43.960 screenshots and things like that, but lots of quality of 1872 01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:47.279 life things. Visuals are great. It's the same old voice 1873 01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:49.880 acting that sounds great. So it's it's what I want. 1874 01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:51.760 I am now confident in this one where I was 1875 01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:52.520 skeptical before. 1876 01:29:53.560 --> 01:29:56.640 It's my favorite. Wait wait, I have questions. That's my favorite. 1877 01:29:56.680 --> 01:29:57.600 Yeah, yeah game Please. 1878 01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:01.000 When you say it's just basically where you want, are 1879 01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:03.720 they sticking to like are they being super faithful with 1880 01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:06.680 the like level design and everything, it's still like. 1881 01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:10.319 It's section yeah, like one to one, so like you 1882 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:12.319 will get to the breaking point between this area and 1883 01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:14.359 that area, it fades to black, fades back in with 1884 01:30:14.399 --> 01:30:16.199 the name of the new one at the exact same spot. 1885 01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:16.720 You know. 1886 01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:18.399 I wonder if they're gonna cause I only play the 1887 01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:20.520 virtuous mission, so I do wonder what things like the 1888 01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:22.760 end boss fight. Well, that'd be more of a contiguous, 1889 01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:25.319 you know, like big open area. But I mean it 1890 01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:28.000 seems like they are like very cognizant of like we 1891 01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:31.600 are not straying from Hideo Kajima's vision here. This is 1892 01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:33.880 as it was. It's just going to play better and 1893 01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:34.359 look better. 1894 01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:37.960 Yeah. When you say play better, are like animations wise? 1895 01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:39.960 Is it the Phantom Pain engine. 1896 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:44.159 I don't know engine wise, but they had made some 1897 01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:47.159 control tweaks where it's like switching between weapons is on 1898 01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:50.239 the dpad now instead of the triggers like you know 1899 01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:52.800 middle ar one through four where it's got like hot 1900 01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:54.760 swap stuff with camos, so like you can just hold 1901 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:56.880 in a deepad button and like switch CAMO on the fly. 1902 01:30:57.720 --> 01:30:59.159 You can you know, use the dpad you kind of 1903 01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:00.840 like just call someone in the without going to the 1904 01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:02.720 dedicated screen. But if you want to, you can still 1905 01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:05.600 do the old way. One thing I really loved was 1906 01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:07.960 like tooltips, because like CQC was a cool system and 1907 01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.199 snake eater, but you could do so much with it 1908 01:31:10.239 --> 01:31:12.880 that I would forget how to do specific things. And 1909 01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:14.960 this one, like you know, you grab a guy with 1910 01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:17.159 I think it's R two now instead of circle, and 1911 01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:19.000 things will pop up like this is for human shield, 1912 01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:20.920 this is for slip throat, this is interrogating. It's like, 1913 01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:23.079 oh thank you. It's right there. Like you're dangling off 1914 01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:25.199 a bridge and it'll like remind you, like, oh, hold 1915 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:26.800 this to aim your gun, and it's like, oh right, 1916 01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:29.119 I can aim while I'm hanging. Like I was doing 1917 01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:31.560 more stuff that I could have done back then, but 1918 01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:34.479 it was just it was it's easier to surface now 1919 01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:35.600 that thanks to the tooltips. 1920 01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:38.279 Okay, so I asked about the animation specifically just because 1921 01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:41.079 Phantom Pain and Ground Zeros are like the best feeling 1922 01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:43.439 third person games that come to mind. The way it 1923 01:31:43.439 --> 01:31:46.239 transitions from prone to crouch standing. 1924 01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:48.600 Here, it's closer. 1925 01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:50.920 It's closer to Fano Pain than it was the original 1926 01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:51.399 Snake Eater. 1927 01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:51.640 Yeah. 1928 01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:53.600 Absolutely, And there's things where it's like you can roll 1929 01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:56.840 from a standing position. Now you know it. All the 1930 01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:58.840 buttons have changed around everything, but in a way that 1931 01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:03.119 feel immediately recognizable to like a modern gamer where it's 1932 01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:05.000 like you go back Snake Eater. I'm sure you and 1933 01:32:05.039 --> 01:32:06.600 I can go back and we remember how to do 1934 01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:08.600 all this, but it feels weird going back to if 1935 01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:09.359 you've never played it. 1936 01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:11.960 Yeah, I mean I love those games with all my heart, 1937 01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:14.880 especially Snake Eater. Im I'll be the first to admit 1938 01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.119 it's like or I'll be the first to acknowledge rather 1939 01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:20.960 it's not the most intuitive button layout. Maybe there's a 1940 01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:24.239 universe where every game is designed like that, but I 1941 01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:27.720 think the wider games industry has kind of figured out 1942 01:32:27.840 --> 01:32:30.359 some more seamless control schemes. 1943 01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:32.720 Yeah. I think this is the perfect line of like, 1944 01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:34.920 people like me and you that love Snake Eater are 1945 01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:36.720 going to love it. And also if you're coming to 1946 01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:38.640 it for the first time, both in terms of where 1947 01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:41.239 it's at in the story and how it controls. I 1948 01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:43.279 think it will feel great to jump into for the 1949 01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:47.000 first time now, so very very happy with that. A 1950 01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:50.039 couple of other quick ones. Castaway is like a little 1951 01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:52.920 miniature Zelda in the way that like like a minute 1952 01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:56.439 or half minute hero where these like very condensed experiences 1953 01:32:56.479 --> 01:32:58.920 of like a Zelda type game or an RPG. This 1954 01:32:59.079 --> 01:33:00.960 is a game that the first time you beat it, 1955 01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:04.760 you'll beat in like a half hour, and it sucks, Cassia, 1956 01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:07.600 I know, it really does. Yeah, but it's like there's 1957 01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:10.000 like a few dungeons, there's boss fights, boss keys, you're 1958 01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:12.520 getting heart pieces, it's like there's an overworld. It's all 1959 01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:15.640 of the Zelda trappings are there. It's just like like 1960 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:18.159 a speed run. There is actually like a speed run mode. 1961 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:20.079 But yeah, you'll beat it like thirty minutes the first time. 1962 01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:21.840 I bet you can beat it in like five to 1963 01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:25.800 ten minutes easy the second time. But it's yeah, I 1964 01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:27.479 don't know, it kind of gets a lot of the beats. 1965 01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:29.520 It's like, you know, almost like a baby's first Zelda 1966 01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:31.239 kind of gets you all day, like, oh, you get 1967 01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:33.039 a hookshot. You fight this boss and move on to 1968 01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:36.319 the next thing, like it's got a death mountain area. 1969 01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:38.479 But yeah, it's very much billing itself. Is like this 1970 01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:41.199 is like a very short dog. Oh yeah, it's a 1971 01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:42.640 save your Dog, so you get your items back and 1972 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:45.880 the save your Dog. That's it. It's a very breezy 1973 01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:46.640 but very fun. 1974 01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:47.880 Love. 1975 01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:49.520 I love a good Zelda like that has like an 1976 01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:51.520 interesting little tweak on it, and this being like the 1977 01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:53.479 super fast Zelda was fun for me. 1978 01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:56.680 This is a really good game idea. I love this. 1979 01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:59.079 The idea of it's like it's a it's a bite 1980 01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:02.159 sized version of Selda you're meant to like play quickly. 1981 01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:02.960 I love this. 1982 01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:04.520 Yeah, and then when you beat it, there's like a 1983 01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:07.760 fifty floor like tower mode with almost like a Rogue 1984 01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:09.319 Light thing where you're leveling up as you go through 1985 01:34:09.319 --> 01:34:10.960 and you can buy upgrades and stuff. So there's a 1986 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:13.560 little bit past that, but yeah, I really really enjoyed 1987 01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:16.640 my short time with that. And last update is just 1988 01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:20.119 Steamworldhist two. I've continued to play that and I'm pretty 1989 01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:22.119 far into that at this point. With all the flights, 1990 01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:24.399 that has been my go to flight game, and it's 1991 01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:26.520 a real good one for just killing time on a flight, 1992 01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:28.199 because like every one of those missions, you're thinking so 1993 01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:30.920 much about every turn you make, and I'm restarting missions 1994 01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:33.199 all the time just to make better decisions and save 1995 01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:35.720 crew maids. And yeah, before you know it, you know, 1996 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:38.600 hours have passed. I think Heighs two is one of 1997 01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:39.840 my favorite Steam World games. 1998 01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:42.279 Yeah, I talked about it last episode and you're gone. 1999 01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:44.199 I've put a lot of time into it. I'm still 2000 01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:50.000 playing that too, really really good, like a bunch. I 2001 01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:53.359 especially like it's one of the more interesting or enjoyable 2002 01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:57.760 strategy layers in an xcom, like the just the yeah, 2003 01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:00.640 upgrading the submarine and I like the world itself, the 2004 01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:02.199 World's it themselves. 2005 01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:05.479 Yeah, that loop is amazing. Like going back to your 2006 01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:07.159 you know, sleeping at the end of the day, you know, 2007 01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:09.640 going to do your sub upgrades and new personal upgrades 2008 01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:11.640 and things like that, trying to find like a shop 2009 01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:13.199 I want to do I want to. 2010 01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:16.439 Buy recruit a new member, or do I want that 2011 01:35:16.520 --> 01:35:19.640 heavy machine gun on my sub Or do I want 2012 01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:25.239 to get a upgraded sledgehammer for my tank class? 2013 01:35:25.720 --> 01:35:25.920 Yeah? 2014 01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:26.640 Melee class. 2015 01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:30.640 Yeah, a lot of personality, good writing, good visuals, just 2016 01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:33.720 love that kind of like two D tactical thing that's 2017 01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:35.239 got going on. It's a lot of fun. 2018 01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:40.079 Yeah, marry anything else you've been playing? 2019 01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:44.720 Yes, one more. I also found this on the Twitter. 2020 01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:48.039 A dev was talking about a game that they made 2021 01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:53.319 and how they were kind of getting good reviews but 2022 01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:57.199 not enough reviews, and I was looking at the game 2023 01:35:57.359 --> 01:35:59.600 style and I was like, this kind of looks cool. 2024 01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:02.119 So I ask them for a key and I've been 2025 01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:07.880 playing it and I am into this game. Uh rco is. 2026 01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:12.439 I'm trying to think of how you of a game 2027 01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:18.039 that you can compare it to, but side scroll with 2028 01:36:21.039 --> 01:36:25.359 combat that when you're making your action it stops, but 2029 01:36:25.479 --> 01:36:27.760 it is live action when you're moving around, so you 2030 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:31.720 have to like make your decisions, but when it's your 2031 01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:34.399 turn to make a decision, it stops, so you can 2032 01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:35.119 think about it. 2033 01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:43.000 Yeah, it does sound like oh like Frozen synaps was 2034 01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.800 this was a game that kind of did something along 2035 01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:49.439 those lines back in like twenty sixteen. But yeah, it's. 2036 01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:53.560 Real time, but it pauses that you can like ards 2037 01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:54.239 me like a Kotour. 2038 01:36:54.279 --> 01:36:55.600 I don't know if you ever played that, but like 2039 01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:56.399 the combat in. 2040 01:36:56.359 --> 01:36:59.079 That someone when I was streaming it was like, hey, 2041 01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:01.560 this kind of reminds me of Transistor, and I was like, 2042 01:37:01.720 --> 01:37:04.600 oh yeah, like you know where you can like stop 2043 01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:06.960 and think for a second, but it is real time 2044 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:08.640 and you have to be moving around. So this is 2045 01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:15.319 what that's very similar. This game is a RPG, it 2046 01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:20.880 blends turn based in real time combat. But I really 2047 01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:25.560 like that the stories are very raw. It's very bloody, 2048 01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:30.119 it's very murdery, and it feels like it's kind of 2049 01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:34.520 in a old American style, like old old Western. And 2050 01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:40.640 you are a rugged, ruthless dude. You don't really have 2051 01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:42.439 a name, or when you do, you don't really give 2052 01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:44.760 a shit. You don't meet people, you know, you can 2053 01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:46.760 decide how you talk to people, so you can when 2054 01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:48.119 you meet people, you can be like, I don't give 2055 01:37:48.119 --> 01:37:50.800 a shit what your name is, little little billy, or 2056 01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:52.960 you can like actually be nice to them. You can 2057 01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:58.720 decide like how aggressive you are right away, within the 2058 01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:02.279 first thirty minutes of this game, violence will happen. That's 2059 01:38:02.359 --> 01:38:05.279 I think pretty intense, and so you're it's setting the 2060 01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:08.920 tone that this is an adult themed situation where you're 2061 01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:13.880 like killing people who have killed people. You can decide 2062 01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:18.319 if you are an anti hero or a hero multiple times. 2063 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:23.880 I have essentially helped people because let's say lizards were 2064 01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:26.359 killing their livestock, and so I go kill the lizards. 2065 01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:28.560 You can decide whether or not you do that. You 2066 01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:31.960 can actually not help people. You can avoid doing the 2067 01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:35.119 little extras for the townspeople. I liked doing them and 2068 01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:39.600 trying to help everyone out, but very rugged and very intense. 2069 01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:43.760 I died a lot playing this. You have to be 2070 01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:49.199 very thoughtful with your upgrades. Upgrades are precious, and so 2071 01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:53.960 whether or not you get a heavy arrow arc that 2072 01:38:54.159 --> 01:38:58.880 will stun enemies, or whether you go with a knife 2073 01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:01.720 attack that doesn't stuck them but does more damage close 2074 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:05.680 up is up to you. You get to use your 2075 01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:10.800 you get to pick your character pyramid the way you 2076 01:39:10.840 --> 01:39:13.720 want to build it. But because it's so precious, I 2077 01:39:13.720 --> 01:39:15.680 think you have to be very thoughtful with where you 2078 01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:18.199 want to put all of your different skill sets. I 2079 01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:23.920 got really into arc arrows that do AoE damage, and 2080 01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:26.479 so I'm more of a shoot and run away like 2081 01:39:26.479 --> 01:39:30.079 a little bitch type aggressor. I shoot my arrow, I 2082 01:39:30.119 --> 01:39:32.199 run like hell. I shoot my arrow, I run like hell. 2083 01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:34.920 But you have to mix it up, especially with the 2084 01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:38.920 way they throw enemies at you. I loved the different 2085 01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:43.159 dynamics that they gave us throughout the I would say, 2086 01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:44.720 like the ten or twelve hours that I've been playing 2087 01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:47.159 with it so far, I've been thrown into all sorts 2088 01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:50.159 of different scenarios that I have thought were very interesting. 2089 01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:55.000 There's also environmental kills. A lot of spaces in the 2090 01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:59.119 environment explode upon damage. It's really fun to have like 2091 01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:02.880 six bad guys be like, we're gonna kill you unless 2092 01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:05.159 you give us five dollars, and it's like, over my 2093 01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:08.399 dead fucking body, am I gonna give you five dollars? 2094 01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:12.000 And I shoot the explosive and kill like five of them. 2095 01:40:12.439 --> 01:40:15.640 Very rewarding. You kill all sorts of stuff in this game. 2096 01:40:16.399 --> 01:40:19.319 You also get items that you can use to kill 2097 01:40:19.359 --> 01:40:21.840 people with. I thought it was really interesting. I got 2098 01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:23.680 dynamite and through it at a bunch of people and 2099 01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:27.359 exploded them all at once, and one one playthrough, I 2100 01:40:27.399 --> 01:40:29.720 also did one that's sticky and it makes them not 2101 01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:31.800 be able to move, So if you have a fast 2102 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.039 enemy that's zip zipping around, you can make them stuck 2103 01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:39.479 where they are. Beautiful. This is a beautiful game. You 2104 01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:41.039 will look at it and you will say oh what, 2105 01:40:41.199 --> 01:40:43.880 this is just like eight bit It's gorgeous. 2106 01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:45.680 I'm looking at it now. Yeah, it's got Do you 2107 01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:49.039 ever play West Torado? Yeah, it's got kind of that, 2108 01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:53.000 like very pixelated, like Western aesthetic for sure. Like I 2109 01:40:53.039 --> 01:40:53.680 don't mind that. 2110 01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:58.479 The music matches the Western aesthetic to a t. I 2111 01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:01.720 also think the writing feels quite authentic and genuine. I've 2112 01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:03.760 played a lot of games like this where they're just 2113 01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:06.439 like this trown big enough for the two. This is 2114 01:41:07.279 --> 01:41:10.319 very well written. You can tell that the writers or 2115 01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:13.159 the people who have made this are quite invested in 2116 01:41:13.239 --> 01:41:17.279 having authentic representation of the characters that they are having 2117 01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:20.920 in this game. I think it's quite thoughtful. Of all 2118 01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:22.359 the games that I'm talking about, I think this is 2119 01:41:22.359 --> 01:41:25.439 the one that I kind of can't put down as 2120 01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:27.960 of late. Like I just get really excited when I 2121 01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:31.039 get to play this game. It plays like a dream 2122 01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:36.239 on the switch, and it lends itself to a casual experience. 2123 01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:39.880 I think this is a great plane game. I think 2124 01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:42.920 you could play this and do a couple tasks when 2125 01:41:42.920 --> 01:41:43.920 you're on your plane. 2126 01:41:44.039 --> 01:41:44.520 This is. 2127 01:41:46.319 --> 01:41:47.800 A game that I think has a lot of promise, 2128 01:41:47.880 --> 01:41:49.359 and I also think it's a bit of a hidden gem. 2129 01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:51.800 I don't think people are talking about Arco enough for 2130 01:41:52.279 --> 01:41:56.079 how well made it is, how thoughtful it is, and 2131 01:41:56.159 --> 01:41:58.840 how enjoyable it is, So i'd really this is like 2132 01:41:58.880 --> 01:41:59.479 the one for me. 2133 01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:01.960 Okay, I'm making a note to download this on the 2134 01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:06.000 Steam deck. That sounds solid cool? 2135 01:42:07.359 --> 01:42:09.399 All right? That was all for me was I've been 2136 01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:11.760 playing some other older stuff. Like I said, I've been 2137 01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:15.720 mean to try Alien Dark Descent came out last year. 2138 01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:21.880 Had it downloaded Steam forever. It's like a top down 2139 01:42:22.279 --> 01:42:26.159 real time Xcom esque or like maybe like top down 2140 01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:29.800 Republic Commando but set in the Aliens universe. I mean 2141 01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:31.560 to play that. But I also started a new Xcom 2142 01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:34.159 two campaign because I love just seeing what new mods 2143 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:37.039 people have come up with over the over the years. 2144 01:42:38.319 --> 01:42:43.079 But yeah, outside of that, nothing major. Do you want 2145 01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:44.039 to do emails? 2146 01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:46.720 Yanks? Do it? 2147 01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:49.399 Okay? Before we jump into emails, reminder, you can ride 2148 01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:52.159 into fire Escape cast at gmail dot com. That is 2149 01:42:52.239 --> 01:42:56.479 fire Escape cast at gmail dot com for comments, questions, 2150 01:42:56.479 --> 01:42:59.279 stuff you want to be read on air. If you 2151 01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:02.039 do have any corrections, I will only read them if 2152 01:43:02.079 --> 01:43:05.760 they are directed at Dan and Mary. Mary, do you 2153 01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:10.479 want to read this? First question? We have from Matthew. 2154 01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:15.199 Maybe I should have. No. I meant I saw it 2155 01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:17.159 was fairly long, but that's because it was also in 2156 01:43:17.159 --> 01:43:20.079 regard to something we were talking about today, So makes sense. 2157 01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:23.680 Here we go, Hey, Gang, following your discussion about the 2158 01:43:23.680 --> 01:43:27.399 Alien franchise this week, and I was reminded that I 2159 01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:30.680 have never seen Alien or Alien's or pretty much any 2160 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:32.560 of the other movie that is, actually. 2161 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:34.640 How you alien Aliens? 2162 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:35.960 Alien? 2163 01:43:37.600 --> 01:43:40.880 The name Ali, you can't even do it. 2164 01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:44.640 It's like alien, Croatian alien. 2165 01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:47.279 Yeah, that's you're closer alien. 2166 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:49.359 I'm trying to think of what what word do you are? 2167 01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:49.479 You? 2168 01:43:49.720 --> 01:43:51.880 Do you actually pronounce the A correctly. 2169 01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:57.000 Like that al like Al Bundy, it's alien alien and 2170 01:43:57.479 --> 01:44:00.840 the letters e in is how he says it end. 2171 01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:03.439 Yeah, so could continue to wear it. 2172 01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:06.680 The only one I've ever seen is Prometheus, a film that, 2173 01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:09.199 as far as I can tell, is largely disliked by 2174 01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:12.640 fans of the series. But I freaking love that movie. 2175 01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:15.239 I was super hyped when it came out and was 2176 01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:19.880 not disappointed. The funny thing is that I don't know 2177 01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:22.840 that it was Alien film until the very end when 2178 01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:26.159 it shows the Xenomorph, which, if you recall, is literally 2179 01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:29.279 the last five seconds of the movie. I'm sure for 2180 01:44:29.399 --> 01:44:32.680 fans of other movies it might have well been have 2181 01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:35.720 had this is an alien movie flashing on the screen 2182 01:44:35.720 --> 01:44:38.920 the whole time, But I was clueless. So my question 2183 01:44:39.159 --> 01:44:40.960 for you is, are there any games or movies or 2184 01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:45.520 books that are that you like but you're entirely unfamiliar 2185 01:44:45.560 --> 01:44:48.199 with the series. Have you ever tried a late entry 2186 01:44:48.199 --> 01:44:50.159 in a series and been inspired to go back and 2187 01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:54.760 try the originals or even some you feel like you 2188 01:44:54.800 --> 01:44:57.560 don't need to experience the original to enjoy the newest one. 2189 01:44:57.640 --> 01:44:59.840 Thanks for my favorite podcast. It's a highlight of mowing 2190 01:44:59.840 --> 01:45:05.359 my every two weeks. Much love, Matthew from Bentonville. 2191 01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:10.319 I've been to Bentonville. You have not. I absolutely, phil Arkansas, 2192 01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:11.800 where I went to school, is like an hour from there. 2193 01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:19.039 Bentonville's famous for its big like Christmas blowout decorations and market. Matthew, 2194 01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:20.520 correct me if I got any of that wrong, But yeah, 2195 01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:24.800 I've been to Bentonville. That's really funny that you didn't 2196 01:45:24.800 --> 01:45:26.439 know that that was an Alley movie till the end. 2197 01:45:26.479 --> 01:45:28.720 That's like the Bit and Sonny where Charlie thinks the 2198 01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:31.560 twist in the sixth sense is that it was Bruce 2199 01:45:31.560 --> 01:45:34.479 Willis the whole time, like the actor was Bruce Willis 2200 01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:37.479 the whole time. That's funny, like you, that's a different 2201 01:45:37.520 --> 01:45:39.800 twist than I think they intended. 2202 01:45:41.159 --> 01:45:43.239 I was kind of late to Ratchet it was the 2203 01:45:43.279 --> 01:45:46.079 third one because I just thought they were like kids games. 2204 01:45:46.119 --> 01:45:48.399 And then like IGN gave the third one, I think 2205 01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:51.000 up your arsenal and like a nine point eight or something, 2206 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:52.920 and I was like, what, that's a really high score, 2207 01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:53.960 and so I checked it out. It's like, Oh, it 2208 01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:55.840 turns out these are fucking great, And I went back 2209 01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:57.119 and played the originals, and. 2210 01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:01.920 I mean that's how I was with Metal Gear Solid. 2211 01:46:02.479 --> 01:46:04.079 What was your first Snake Eater? 2212 01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:07.119 Oh, that is a good first one because chron like 2213 01:46:07.319 --> 01:46:10.840 in the timeline, it's great. Box first one was four, 2214 01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:13.239 which is fucking crazy. 2215 01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:16.159 Is the most fan service, you know. 2216 01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:17.760 I hope you've read up on all this stuff before 2217 01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:20.680 we show you movie length cut scenes. And she liked it. 2218 01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:21.439 All right. 2219 01:46:21.479 --> 01:46:21.760 Cool. 2220 01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:24.199 If ever, there's a game that's going to turn you away, 2221 01:46:24.199 --> 01:46:25.880 and I love that game. But if there's a game 2222 01:46:25.880 --> 01:46:28.600 that's going to push you away from the series, that's it. 2223 01:46:29.439 --> 01:46:31.399 If you were into the series, though it is the 2224 01:46:31.439 --> 01:46:32.439 most like here is. 2225 01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:36.399 Like, yeah, yes, Snake Eater, and then I went back 2226 01:46:36.439 --> 01:46:43.119 to play one and immediately missed a lot of the stuff. 2227 01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:46.199 So yeah, it's funny because Snake Eater introduced so much stuff, 2228 01:46:46.239 --> 01:46:49.399 like just the fact that it had so many like 2229 01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:54.960 outdoor stealth options and different movement and the camouflage, survival 2230 01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:57.640 light kind of elements. I missed those in Metal of 2231 01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:00.800 Your Solid but going back to see where it's from, uh, 2232 01:47:01.039 --> 01:47:03.520 Metal of Your Slid one is still my second favorite 2233 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:07.119 of the series after Snake Eater. I'm trying to think 2234 01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:11.520 anything else. There's probably movie series that aren't occurring to 2235 01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:14.079 me yet, but I think the big one was Snake 2236 01:47:14.119 --> 01:47:18.319 Eater because Zelda Zelda might not count as much because 2237 01:47:18.319 --> 01:47:21.079 it was an age thing. My first Zelda was Ocarati, 2238 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:25.039 and then going back to those early ones was obviously 2239 01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:27.479 pretty rough until I got to link to the past, 2240 01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:31.159 which was, you know, still to this day, really really 2241 01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:33.199 good game design that holds up really well. 2242 01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:34.840 But and visuals. 2243 01:47:35.119 --> 01:47:39.760 Yeah, Okera enough time is was my first Zelda and 2244 01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:42.880 now that's become probably my favorite series. 2245 01:47:45.039 --> 01:47:45.720 There, you got me. 2246 01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:49.800 Shows would be really interesting for games. I definitely played 2247 01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:55.880 Half Life two first, and I felt fine. I felt 2248 01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:59.640 totally in control of that situation, that there was nothing 2249 01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:10.960 that I'm missed other ones let me think, uh you go, 2250 01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:13.199 I can't think of any I definitely had. 2251 01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:15.600 The order I watched Rocky was really fucked up. And 2252 01:48:15.880 --> 01:48:17.439 it's because of my age. So I was born in 2253 01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:20.479 eighty four. So the first one I remember seeing was five, 2254 01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:24.279 which is universally considered the shitty one, the only shitty one. 2255 01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:27.239 Well yeah, but the thing is we I saw five, 2256 01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:29.000 I think in the theater, and then we had it 2257 01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:30.920 on VHS, and so I watched it all the time 2258 01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:34.000 on VHS before I ever saw another Rocky, and so 2259 01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:37.079 like at the beginning, they would show the Drago fight, 2260 01:48:37.199 --> 01:48:39.039 and every time I'd watch Rocky, five would be like, Man, 2261 01:48:39.039 --> 01:48:41.600 this shit looks cool. Who's that big fucker from Russia? 2262 01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:44.560 But I never saw four for years, So I went 2263 01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:51.720 like five, one, four, two three was the order I think, 2264 01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:52.920 which invested up. 2265 01:48:53.039 --> 01:48:57.520 Might be the weirdest order you could watch those, but 2266 01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:00.359 I still obviously fucking love it. But it's like from 2267 01:49:00.439 --> 01:49:04.319 five to like a genuine Oscar worthy movie, to four, 2268 01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:06.560 which is the best movie ever made, to two, which 2269 01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:08.199 is like the continuation of the Oscar. 2270 01:49:08.479 --> 01:49:11.479 Yeah, three was like late, and by the time Bebo 2271 01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:12.680 came out, I was pretty caught up. 2272 01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:15.680 But yeah, but I love five. I mean I didn't 2273 01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:16.199 know any better. 2274 01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:17.600 It was the first one I saw, and so like 2275 01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:19.640 it's almost a good way because it's like, oh, man, 2276 01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:22.199 I love this character, I love this format and this music, 2277 01:49:22.399 --> 01:49:24.159 and then it's like, oh, now here's the good ones 2278 01:49:24.199 --> 01:49:24.560 after that. 2279 01:49:25.239 --> 01:49:27.560 Yeah, that's the only way you can enjoy Rocky five 2280 01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:28.880 is if it's the first movie you watch. 2281 01:49:28.960 --> 01:49:33.840 Yeah, and you're also, you know, six years old. Yeah. 2282 01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:37.439 We also that games were a total war I played 2283 01:49:37.439 --> 01:49:39.800 the Warhammer games, then went back to the historical stuff, 2284 01:49:42.079 --> 01:49:45.439 and then they didn't have wizards and dragons and shit. 2285 01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:49.119 So I was a bit torn on them. 2286 01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:52.479 Final Fantasy I didn't really try. I tried a lot 2287 01:49:52.479 --> 01:49:54.640 of seven, eight and nine or seven and nine. I 2288 01:49:54.680 --> 01:49:56.800 tried a lot of a good one. 2289 01:49:56.960 --> 01:49:59.159 Because he also asks, here, what's a game that you 2290 01:49:59.239 --> 01:50:00.840 enjoyed where you don't feel like you need to play 2291 01:50:00.880 --> 01:50:04.680 the other game in the series. I love six, I 2292 01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:08.720 love was It, I love nine, but I and ten, 2293 01:50:09.399 --> 01:50:12.039 but I don't. I have no intention of playing any 2294 01:50:12.039 --> 01:50:13.119 other Final Fantasy at. 2295 01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:14.800 This point, I got it the Witcher. 2296 01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:20.199 Oh yeah, what even is in there? 2297 01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:21.000 Yeah? 2298 01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:26.359 How do you play? What's it about? I've never seen 2299 01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:27.319 it outside of Poland. 2300 01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:30.239 It's text based RPG. 2301 01:50:30.479 --> 01:50:31.119 Yeah, Poland. 2302 01:50:31.640 --> 01:50:32.600 It's a dice game. 2303 01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:34.439 You could only play it out of music. 2304 01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:36.359 You get it in Poland? 2305 01:50:36.640 --> 01:50:38.359 Yeah, like fan hacks and stuff. 2306 01:50:38.520 --> 01:50:42.479 Yeah, no, that's a good one because I have I 2307 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:46.439 have played the first two and like Jake might disagree, 2308 01:50:46.479 --> 01:50:50.119 but if you played Richard three and are been like 2309 01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:52.239 meaning to play one and two, you don't need to 2310 01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:55.039 look up a synoposive. And that's not to take away 2311 01:50:55.039 --> 01:50:56.760 from the fact they do some cool stuff. 2312 01:50:56.520 --> 01:50:59.520 But I'd be willing to about the large majority of 2313 01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:03.399 GTA fans started with three, four or five or maybe 2314 01:51:03.479 --> 01:51:06.680 Vice says today. Yeah, like I started with one and 2315 01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:08.399 two the top downs, and like I remember thinking those 2316 01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:11.119 are pretty fucking crazy for their day, But like, I 2317 01:51:11.159 --> 01:51:12.880 don't know, three is when it kind of entered the 2318 01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:15.960 like super duper mainstream. Everyone's played this, you. 2319 01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:18.880 Know, Oh dude, I mean, I mean, statistically speaking, GTA 2320 01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:23.680 five is so big that it's it's alive today. I 2321 01:51:23.680 --> 01:51:25.720 don't know why people who start with four would be 2322 01:51:25.720 --> 01:51:26.640 dead yet but. 2323 01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:30.760 I would suggest one that you can't just hop on 2324 01:51:30.880 --> 01:51:33.239 now is if you if you're curious about Call of Duty, 2325 01:51:33.279 --> 01:51:35.039 you need to go back to the first one. Otherwise 2326 01:51:35.079 --> 01:51:36.600 nothing's gonna make it. So you got to play every 2327 01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:39.680 Call of Duty in order, every one of them, even 2328 01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.239 like the Big Red One and the DS one, or 2329 01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:43.840 you're not going to know what the fuck's going on. 2330 01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:48.279 I like that you just combined the what you just 2331 01:51:48.319 --> 01:51:50.399 did with those two titles. Do you realize what you 2332 01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:54.000 just did? No, you said the Big Red One as 2333 01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:57.199 if it's like the game is a big red one, 2334 01:51:57.199 --> 01:52:00.640 because then you said and the DS one big red Bone. 2335 01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:05.359 But the Big Red One was the game. Yes one 2336 01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:07.439 is like Mobilized. 2337 01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:10.279 From World War Two. That also reminds me. And now 2338 01:52:10.279 --> 01:52:11.920 I'm just thinking a series where it's like I played 2339 01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:14.000 a really good game and now I either went back 2340 01:52:14.039 --> 01:52:16.439 to try the earlier ones and they didn't hold up, 2341 01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:18.439 or like I didn't need to fall Out. It's a 2342 01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:21.439 good example. Fallout three is one of my favorites. I 2343 01:52:21.520 --> 01:52:24.600 went back to play one and two when I was younger. 2344 01:52:25.439 --> 01:52:27.800 Really cool stuff going on, Like if they do a remake, 2345 01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:29.840 I think a lot of like Balder's Gate three fans 2346 01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:32.720 would be psyched, but like you do not need to 2347 01:52:32.720 --> 01:52:34.720 play those first two in their current state because they 2348 01:52:34.720 --> 01:52:37.000 don't hold up well. And Fallout three obviously is just 2349 01:52:37.640 --> 01:52:40.640 night and Day. It's open world onward, you know. 2350 01:52:41.039 --> 01:52:44.439 On that same track. I would guess that Elder scrolls 2351 01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:46.880 the same way, yes, because I think, like you know, 2352 01:52:46.920 --> 01:52:48.920 I definitely know a lot of more wind like big 2353 01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:52.159 time fans like Bonks the biggest one, and obviously Oblivion 2354 01:52:52.199 --> 01:52:55.279 Skyrim got huge, but I don't hear anyone talking about 2355 01:52:55.279 --> 01:52:55.720 one or two. 2356 01:52:55.960 --> 01:52:59.600 The Arena and Daggerfall are again, like honestly like they're 2357 01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:06.000 like the Bethesda catalog of RPGs had like that one 2358 01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:10.199 to two phase where different developers completely different styles, and 2359 01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:12.199 then they took some really cool world building and then 2360 01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:15.960 just went, you know, basically established the formula for like 2361 01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:18.960 free form open worlds going forward, and from the early 2362 01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:20.199 adds to the twenty tens. 2363 01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:22.920 Yeah you again, I. 2364 01:53:22.880 --> 01:53:26.720 Think there's some cool remake material there, like remake not remaster. 2365 01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:29.920 And again I'm not saying there's not cool stuff in 2366 01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:33.039 all those but yeah, god, Moroin is still well worth 2367 01:53:33.159 --> 01:53:36.880 trying out just to like just to see what it's 2368 01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:39.000 like play five hours that game if you haven't before, 2369 01:53:39.039 --> 01:53:40.600 and then if it doesn't hook you, that's fine, you've 2370 01:53:40.640 --> 01:53:42.079 still seen what cool stuff it's doing. 2371 01:53:42.359 --> 01:53:44.520 Yeah, I mean, just hearing the stuff Bonk is described 2372 01:53:44.520 --> 01:53:45.880 about that game, it's like it seems like it was 2373 01:53:45.920 --> 01:53:49.039 doing some bold, crazy shit, like maybe even before a 2374 01:53:49.039 --> 01:53:51.560 lot of the hardware, especially the Xbox was ready forward. 2375 01:53:52.279 --> 01:53:54.319 It literally wasn't the draw distance in that game you 2376 01:53:54.359 --> 01:53:55.359 can't see past like. 2377 01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:57.239 The load times and stuff where it like actually like 2378 01:53:57.239 --> 01:53:58.920 shuts down the system and restarts it. 2379 01:53:58.960 --> 01:54:01.840 And yeah, yeah, I wrote a very very good article 2380 01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:04.319 about that game on Polygon. Anybody who hasn't rid it, 2381 01:54:04.359 --> 01:54:09.640 go look up twenty years later morowin looking back on 2382 01:54:09.720 --> 01:54:12.079 mor and twenty years later the game that RPG that 2383 01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:15.640 changed everything. I might be butchering that, but that's those keywords. 2384 01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:20.359 We'll get you there. Yeah, I mean I think that 2385 01:54:20.399 --> 01:54:23.359 it's very I'm sure there's like movie series. It's tougher 2386 01:54:23.359 --> 01:54:26.279 for me to think of specifically because a it's way 2387 01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:28.520 easier to go back to an early movie and spend 2388 01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:33.560 like ninety minutes two hours watching it. Yeah, it's not 2389 01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:34.239 easy to tell me. 2390 01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:37.279 From personal experience that I don't know anything about Marvel, 2391 01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:40.319 and I haven't been paying attention to the series, but 2392 01:54:40.399 --> 01:54:42.960 I watched Thor Ragnarok and I thought it was pretty good, 2393 01:54:43.399 --> 01:54:44.920 and I know, nothing. 2394 01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:50.600 Too, Yeah, because it's like that's especially good because that's 2395 01:54:50.640 --> 01:54:56.199 funny because Marvel the franchise itself is built for you 2396 01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:58.760 to watch any of them and then like they hope 2397 01:54:58.760 --> 01:55:01.039 you go back and watch all the thirty five previous 2398 01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:04.359 ones because they're so interconnected. There's easter eggs. But I 2399 01:55:04.439 --> 01:55:06.319 like that Taiko whit TD came along in main one 2400 01:55:06.359 --> 01:55:08.119 where it's like, no, this is just funny on its own, 2401 01:55:08.119 --> 01:55:10.479 and you don't it's like a heist action. You don't 2402 01:55:10.520 --> 01:55:15.880 need to don't worry about the first Thor movie and whatnot. Yeah, 2403 01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:18.199 but yeah, games are just so much harder, like they've 2404 01:55:18.239 --> 01:55:21.279 evolved so fucking quickly in the last forty years or 2405 01:55:21.319 --> 01:55:24.479 whatever it is, and they're also much more time consuming, 2406 01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:28.359 so it's easier to go back and watch Like like 2407 01:55:28.439 --> 01:55:34.560 Matthew hasn't seen Alien Alien, sorry, and absolutely if our 2408 01:55:34.600 --> 01:55:38.960 earlier conversation didn't que you in, you should watch Alien 2409 01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:43.600 and Aliens immediately. They hold up really well. But it's like, 2410 01:55:43.640 --> 01:55:47.359 you know, going back to dagger Fall and Arena are 2411 01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:50.680 that's way different or even like early balders Gate games, 2412 01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:52.079 Like I'm sure there's a lot of balders Gate three 2413 01:55:52.119 --> 01:55:53.640 fans who have wanted to go back to one and 2414 01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:56.680 two and are finding it it's like, no, I'd rather 2415 01:55:56.720 --> 01:55:59.119 just start a new run in three because these are 2416 01:55:59.119 --> 01:56:00.079 a bit dated. 2417 01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:02.159 Or even interesting ones where it's like I could see 2418 01:56:02.159 --> 01:56:05.039 people getting into Middle Year Solid five because like that 2419 01:56:05.119 --> 01:56:08.079 gameplay is so good and it's not doesn't really require 2420 01:56:08.079 --> 01:56:09.960 a ton o story knowledge because there's not that much 2421 01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:11.840 story in that game, and then like if you went 2422 01:56:11.960 --> 01:56:13.960 back to the early Middle Years, it's like, well this 2423 01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:16.359 is a different thing, you know, Like I love five, 2424 01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:18.800 but it's I love it for very different reasons than 2425 01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:19.399 one through four. 2426 01:56:19.840 --> 01:56:24.399 Yeah. I also wonder if, like Breath of the Wild 2427 01:56:24.680 --> 01:56:29.159 got some young people into the series and they're like, huh, different, 2428 01:56:29.479 --> 01:56:31.800 there's some stuff there. It's just funny to think that, 2429 01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:34.840 like we came into Breath of the Wild thinking, Okay, 2430 01:56:34.880 --> 01:56:38.000 they took like the eight dungeon format, sprinkled mini ones 2431 01:56:38.039 --> 01:56:40.319 all over in an open world, whereas those people would 2432 01:56:40.359 --> 01:56:43.600 go back like, oh, they took shrines and made eight 2433 01:56:43.720 --> 01:56:46.560 huge ones yeah, with like a pretty bare bones open 2434 01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:50.239 world between them. But anyway, thank you Matthew for writting 2435 01:56:50.319 --> 01:56:54.279 in uh uh looking. I'm not going to go to 2436 01:56:54.279 --> 01:56:58.159 Bentonville this year, but I had fun when I was there. Dan, 2437 01:56:58.199 --> 01:56:59.560 you want to read this one from Erin. 2438 01:57:00.159 --> 01:57:03.560 Or High Fire Escapers. I know would you rather questions 2439 01:57:03.560 --> 01:57:05.479 are overdone, but I think there's no better crew to 2440 01:57:05.520 --> 01:57:09.279 discuss this important question. Would you rather slip and fall 2441 01:57:09.399 --> 01:57:12.439 every time you enter a new room or have to 2442 01:57:12.479 --> 01:57:15.319 scream every fifth word you say at the top of 2443 01:57:15.399 --> 01:57:21.920 your lungs. That's Aaron from Dallas scream. Definitely scream. There's 2444 01:57:21.960 --> 01:57:23.079 no injury risk. 2445 01:57:23.239 --> 01:57:24.239 There's no injury. 2446 01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:25.079 I agree. 2447 01:57:25.159 --> 01:57:27.840 As we get older, as we enter our older stages, 2448 01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:29.520 I can't afford to fall. 2449 01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:32.880 Yeah, I'd be risking serious injury so many times a 2450 01:57:32.960 --> 01:57:35.479 day versus like, Oh, I'm gun of embarrassed. Every once 2451 01:57:35.479 --> 01:57:35.880 in a while. 2452 01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:38.359 You could get like a fall guard. 2453 01:57:38.760 --> 01:57:39.039 You know. 2454 01:57:39.239 --> 01:57:41.319 Have you seen that new thing that like you wear 2455 01:57:41.359 --> 01:57:43.399 it as a jacket as a person and when you 2456 01:57:43.439 --> 01:57:44.640 fall just just. 2457 01:57:44.720 --> 01:57:48.479 Like take an airbag for your body. Yeah, wantsn't have 2458 01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:50.560 to wear that. I'll just tell people, Hey, I got 2459 01:57:50.560 --> 01:57:52.119 this weird thing a Genie cursed me. 2460 01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:56.800 No, you wouldn't you like weird thing, like, hey, I've 2461 01:57:56.800 --> 01:57:57.960 got this weird. 2462 01:57:59.800 --> 01:58:01.840 Right down. I'd hand everyone a note when I enter 2463 01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:03.640 a room or get on a plane. 2464 01:58:04.159 --> 01:58:06.920 You wouldn't finish the explanation before you do the thing. 2465 01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:09.560 You're explaining why it's the note, That's why it's the note. 2466 01:58:10.319 --> 01:58:13.760 I would absolutely at this point in my at any point, 2467 01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:18.600 I would rather slip and fall because you're twenty. Yeah, 2468 01:58:18.600 --> 01:58:22.439 I'm twenty years old. I think you're young. 2469 01:58:22.520 --> 01:58:24.000 Your bones will be fine. 2470 01:58:24.079 --> 01:58:24.399 Fine. 2471 01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:27.039 Both are going to do damage your reputation. I think 2472 01:58:27.119 --> 01:58:30.279 the screaming one is going to do it worse. But yeah, 2473 01:58:30.359 --> 01:58:32.960 to Mary's point, you could prevent as much as you 2474 01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:34.199 can some physical stuff. 2475 01:58:36.279 --> 01:58:39.039 I would just get like a mobility aid, and then 2476 01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:42.319 I would I would just avoid. I would I would 2477 01:58:42.359 --> 01:58:43.119 cheat the system. 2478 01:58:43.359 --> 01:58:45.479 You would do the fall thing, yeah, and then I 2479 01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:46.039 would sit. 2480 01:58:46.279 --> 01:58:49.439 Oh see. I feel like as you get older, you 2481 01:58:49.479 --> 01:58:54.079 worry less about embarrassment and more about physical harm, and 2482 01:58:54.159 --> 01:58:56.279 so I think it's the long term play to go 2483 01:58:56.399 --> 01:58:57.439 with the screaming. 2484 01:58:57.600 --> 01:58:59.399 There are also people that live with both of these 2485 01:58:59.439 --> 01:59:03.279 problems for real, but like for the record. 2486 01:59:03.279 --> 01:59:04.800 Time to go into a room that I don't know 2487 01:59:04.800 --> 01:59:06.600 if that's a malady that people that's what. 2488 01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:08.760 So then you're thinking it's like, Okay, you're going to 2489 01:59:08.840 --> 01:59:11.039 a like a not that we any of us really 2490 01:59:11.039 --> 01:59:13.239 do business lunches unless we're at a convention, but like 2491 01:59:13.279 --> 01:59:18.079 say you're going to like a professional lunch, do it. 2492 01:59:18.079 --> 01:59:21.840 You're gonna slip when you walk into the restaurant. Yeah, 2493 01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:25.159 hopefully you don't have to go to the bathroom, because every. 2494 01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:27.359 Time I peel lot, I'm falling on every bathroom floor 2495 01:59:27.359 --> 01:59:28.279 I've ever gone to. 2496 01:59:28.800 --> 01:59:30.399 Is it is it a new room in the sense 2497 01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:31.960 that it's a room that's never been. 2498 01:59:31.800 --> 01:59:35.039 Into before, or is there like a twenty four hour 2499 01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:37.000 cool down, like you're safe for a bit and then 2500 01:59:37.039 --> 01:59:38.760 after midnight, though, you fall in that bathroom again. 2501 01:59:38.920 --> 01:59:43.039 It would be more it would be more manageable if 2502 01:59:43.039 --> 01:59:45.800 it was like every brand new room. Yeah for the 2503 01:59:45.800 --> 01:59:46.399 first time. 2504 01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:49.119 So like my house, like when I first move into 2505 01:59:49.159 --> 01:59:51.119 my house, I'm falling for all of them. 2506 01:59:50.840 --> 01:59:53.800 Then you're a plan ahead. You could go to that 2507 01:59:53.920 --> 01:59:55.840 restaurant that you know you have a business lunch. 2508 01:59:55.640 --> 01:59:58.880 At the fall Oh dinners at seven, I'm gonna get 2509 01:59:58.880 --> 02:00:02.039 there six thirty and fall down break in and just 2510 02:00:02.520 --> 02:00:04.560 I'll just get there early and I'll explain it. I'll 2511 02:00:04.640 --> 02:00:05.960 hand the note to the wait. No, I don't have 2512 02:00:05.960 --> 02:00:07.319 the scream anything. I don't need a note. I can 2513 02:00:07.359 --> 02:00:07.640 just talk. 2514 02:00:07.760 --> 02:00:08.119 I'll have. 2515 02:00:09.800 --> 02:00:12.760 Imagine imagine seeing security cameras have a break in and 2516 02:00:12.840 --> 02:00:16.399 a restaurant and someone just kicks down the door, slips, 2517 02:00:16.960 --> 02:00:22.880 runs through into the kitchen, slips, goes into the dry storage, slipslips. 2518 02:00:21.640 --> 02:00:26.560 And boat bathrooms, runs out, doesn't steal anything. Yep, it 2519 02:00:26.640 --> 02:00:28.000 comes back for dinner the next day. 2520 02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:30.600 It's going to scar the security guard for the rest 2521 02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:34.359 of his life. What's the worst place? What is the 2522 02:00:34.399 --> 02:00:36.800 worst situation where like building you could be in where 2523 02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:40.279 the slip and fall would like be a nightmare more 2524 02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:42.239 than spike factory. 2525 02:00:42.840 --> 02:00:44.520 Mouse trap and glass factory. 2526 02:00:44.680 --> 02:00:45.399 Yeah, that's bad. 2527 02:00:45.800 --> 02:00:49.079 You guys always made in the same space, or. 2528 02:00:49.119 --> 02:00:53.680 Like a every time you go into a new room 2529 02:00:54.079 --> 02:00:59.800 when you're sprinting to catch a flight at the airport, it's. 2530 02:00:59.680 --> 02:01:01.800 All kind of one room though, Like what determines a 2531 02:01:01.840 --> 02:01:04.159 new room. I think a door. I think it's a door, 2532 02:01:04.279 --> 02:01:06.640 Like a standard sized doorway is a new room. 2533 02:01:07.479 --> 02:01:09.439 TSA is like okay, step forward. 2534 02:01:09.720 --> 02:01:12.119 You go to the metal each shit. 2535 02:01:14.399 --> 02:01:14.840 Through again. 2536 02:01:15.960 --> 02:01:18.000 Yeah, if it's not a new room and you actually, 2537 02:01:18.039 --> 02:01:19.920 like every time you go through the doorway, you slip 2538 02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:22.640 coming bit towards TSA and then slip going back. 2539 02:01:22.560 --> 02:01:26.000 Getting onto the jetway, getting onto the plane, moving between 2540 02:01:26.039 --> 02:01:26.960 first class. 2541 02:01:26.680 --> 02:01:30.000 And coach, slipping and falling in a plane bathroom. 2542 02:01:30.199 --> 02:01:30.800 It's not good. 2543 02:01:32.520 --> 02:01:36.960 Uh yeah, I'm just there's got to be like just 2544 02:01:37.039 --> 02:01:41.000 at the met or the Natural History Museicum, we're not 2545 02:01:41.199 --> 02:01:47.840 going to every new exhibit. Everybody's being quiet and observing, 2546 02:01:47.960 --> 02:01:52.000 like you know, just being really respectful. And or a 2547 02:01:52.039 --> 02:02:02.520 library in general will be funny. Or a ice floor, yeah, 2548 02:02:02.840 --> 02:02:05.960 like a nice floor building, a hockey rink. 2549 02:02:06.439 --> 02:02:09.800 Yeah, that's what you're describing. And that's just kind of 2550 02:02:09.800 --> 02:02:12.720 one big room, so you're probably okay. You know, like 2551 02:02:12.720 --> 02:02:19.520 a turf a turf floor bowl, turf floor bowl. 2552 02:02:19.640 --> 02:02:22.279 Yeah, go Spelunking The Descent would have been a very 2553 02:02:22.279 --> 02:02:23.520 different movie with this melody. 2554 02:02:25.640 --> 02:02:26.600 You'd never make it. 2555 02:02:27.039 --> 02:02:28.680 I would. I would still got the slip and fall 2556 02:02:30.479 --> 02:02:32.399 regardless of that assigned it. 2557 02:02:32.399 --> 02:02:33.560 You're gonna you're gonna regret that. 2558 02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:37.159 I gotta go with the yell. I feel like already 2559 02:02:37.279 --> 02:02:38.319 yell every fifth word. 2560 02:02:38.600 --> 02:02:40.760 Yeah, that's the thing. I'm like halfway there, like you 2561 02:02:40.840 --> 02:02:43.079 might as well as leaning, but what if like what 2562 02:02:43.159 --> 02:02:47.359 if you just adjusted, you're talking to all your words. No, yeah, 2563 02:02:47.479 --> 02:02:50.920 just scream everything and then it doesn't even stand out 2564 02:02:51.079 --> 02:02:54.960 stand out still, I mean, but not as like staccato, 2565 02:02:55.319 --> 02:02:57.239 you know, like oh man, he keeps doing this weird thing. 2566 02:02:57.279 --> 02:02:58.880 It's more like, oh he just yells everything. 2567 02:02:59.319 --> 02:03:03.880 You get one of the those masks like Baine, and 2568 02:03:04.239 --> 02:03:05.680 it just mutes you a little bit. 2569 02:03:06.520 --> 02:03:07.319 I think that's cheating. 2570 02:03:09.520 --> 02:03:11.760 So I was breaking into a restaurant to slip around 2571 02:03:11.800 --> 02:03:12.319 it for a bit. 2572 02:03:12.399 --> 02:03:14.520 That was your idea. I wasn't gonna break the law. 2573 02:03:16.640 --> 02:03:18.560 Yeah, you didn't call me out for cheating. 2574 02:03:19.159 --> 02:03:19.640 That's true. 2575 02:03:19.680 --> 02:03:21.720 Look, we approach these things differently. 2576 02:03:22.279 --> 02:03:25.720 Yeah, fair enough, all right, Well thank you Aaron from 2577 02:03:25.800 --> 02:03:32.840 delas Well. That's our that's our episode. Good stuff, more 2578 02:03:32.880 --> 02:03:36.560 more stuff. If I want like a genuine I feel 2579 02:03:36.560 --> 02:03:39.000 like anytime we get a would you rather? We've been 2580 02:03:39.239 --> 02:03:42.640 pretty it's been fairly civil. It's been pretty cordial. We've 2581 02:03:42.640 --> 02:03:47.199 never really been like, you're fucking wrong. I want someone 2582 02:03:47.199 --> 02:03:51.039 to send in a genuine stumper for us that like divides. 2583 02:03:50.640 --> 02:03:51.960 Us, come get us. 2584 02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:54.239 We're reasonable adults, but yeah, they can test that. 2585 02:03:54.319 --> 02:03:57.840 I want one that's really gonna test us, but yeah, 2586 02:03:57.840 --> 02:04:00.560 I right that into fire Escape Cast at gmail dot com. 2587 02:04:01.039 --> 02:04:04.239 If you're not a patron, you can go to firescapecast 2588 02:04:04.319 --> 02:04:06.960 dot com. You can go to Patreon look for us. 2589 02:04:07.359 --> 02:04:09.720 You can contribute just a few dollars if you want 2590 02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:11.800 to treat like a tip jar you appreciate what we do. 2591 02:04:11.920 --> 02:04:16.079 Or you can get the ad free episodes or the 2592 02:04:16.159 --> 02:04:18.800 video versions of every episode, and you can also get 2593 02:04:18.840 --> 02:04:21.439 clued into when we're gonna have bonus episodes. You'll let 2594 02:04:21.479 --> 02:04:24.680 access to those. We have a few. We've been planning 2595 02:04:24.880 --> 02:04:28.239 all tons of travel. We do have some ideas percolating. 2596 02:04:28.279 --> 02:04:30.119 We got to make them happen because we really want to. 2597 02:04:31.640 --> 02:04:36.600 You can also go subscribe to our YouTube channel. Right now, 2598 02:04:36.640 --> 02:04:38.359 Mary and I are very close to the end of 2599 02:04:38.399 --> 02:04:42.840 resume four remakes in our ongoing Residue Canievil series. This 2600 02:04:42.880 --> 02:04:46.880 one has been taken particularly long again, just a very 2601 02:04:46.880 --> 02:04:50.359 busy year. But you'll know when those publish if you 2602 02:04:50.399 --> 02:04:52.560 subscribe to our channel there, and that's also where we 2603 02:04:52.600 --> 02:04:55.760 put all those bonus episodes. So here's kind of two birds, 2604 02:04:55.800 --> 02:05:00.159 one stone. Mary tell them what they can get at 2605 02:05:00.199 --> 02:05:01.760 Firescape merch dot com. 2606 02:05:02.279 --> 02:05:06.159 Oh, you can be getting some hot merch we just 2607 02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:07.880 had to purchase. I'm not gonna call them b out 2608 02:05:07.880 --> 02:05:10.119 in case it's a gift. You never know. But we've 2609 02:05:10.159 --> 02:05:14.439 just been getting some people getting some really nice T shirts. 2610 02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:17.960 I can't wait to see your banana yellow logos. You're 2611 02:05:18.000 --> 02:05:22.079 about the author shirts. You post them, I'll retweet them. 2612 02:05:22.680 --> 02:05:25.840 I love it, enjoy that march. 2613 02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:30.800 Dan Yes, does does do the reviews help at all 2614 02:05:30.880 --> 02:05:35.159 any more of these days? Uh? 2615 02:05:35.199 --> 02:05:37.399 It's a I feel like the last I heard about 2616 02:05:37.399 --> 02:05:38.640 that being a big thing was like when I was 2617 02:05:38.640 --> 02:05:40.880 at Debitu, Like, oh, yeah, I get the five star reviews, 2618 02:05:40.880 --> 02:05:42.760 but hey, look, if you're looking to do something, yeah 2619 02:05:42.760 --> 02:05:43.560 you can give us five stars. 2620 02:05:43.560 --> 02:05:44.239 It's not gonna hurt. 2621 02:05:44.279 --> 02:05:45.640 It'd be nice if it was like Steam and it 2622 02:05:45.680 --> 02:05:48.920 said like overwhelmingly positive US reviews, because I feel like 2623 02:05:48.960 --> 02:05:51.359 we'd get whatever the top tier is. But yeah, of 2624 02:05:51.359 --> 02:05:57.039 course reviews if you like it. Right outside of that, 2625 02:05:57.039 --> 02:05:58.840 that's a that's about it for the ways you can 2626 02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:00.800 support us. But uh, Mary, what do you have going 2627 02:06:00.840 --> 02:06:02.199 on outside of Firescape? 2628 02:06:02.479 --> 02:06:07.000 I did a different podcast. I still love you guys, 2629 02:06:07.079 --> 02:06:14.199 but I did a podcast called Objectively Positive Podcast, which 2630 02:06:14.239 --> 02:06:17.920 I really really enjoyed. I was invited on by Tatum. 2631 02:06:18.159 --> 02:06:20.840 I hung out with Tatum at the Giant Bomb at 2632 02:06:20.920 --> 02:06:24.680 Night at E three this past year, and we talked 2633 02:06:24.680 --> 02:06:29.079 about media, any media that's had a really positive influence 2634 02:06:29.199 --> 02:06:33.600 on your life and or just hugely impactful. And I 2635 02:06:33.760 --> 02:06:36.960 gush about Rocket League for an entire hour. I talk 2636 02:06:37.000 --> 02:06:41.399 about how much impacted game Spot and the team there, 2637 02:06:41.439 --> 02:06:43.439 and how much we loved it and all the fun 2638 02:06:43.479 --> 02:06:46.199 we had with it, and how much it had me 2639 02:06:46.279 --> 02:06:50.359 of lasting friendships with my coworkers just because of Rocket Leagues. 2640 02:06:50.399 --> 02:06:56.319 So I encourage you to listen to Objectively Positive Podcast. 2641 02:06:56.840 --> 02:06:59.520 Good good stories in there. I really enjoyed doing that. 2642 02:07:00.439 --> 02:07:01.920 Nice Dan, what about you? 2643 02:07:03.079 --> 02:07:07.279 Giant Bomb got some fun stuff from Germany That travelog 2644 02:07:07.319 --> 02:07:09.239 should be up if you go to the YouTube channel. 2645 02:07:09.520 --> 02:07:12.039 Or also have Mike Benatti playing through Alone in the 2646 02:07:12.119 --> 02:07:14.840 Dark for the we on Blake Club where we play 2647 02:07:14.840 --> 02:07:17.359 the worst games ever and that has been hilarious, So 2648 02:07:17.479 --> 02:07:22.079 check that out. But yeah, Twitch, Now that I'm done 2649 02:07:22.119 --> 02:07:24.000 with most of the travel stuff, probably doing some more 2650 02:07:24.039 --> 02:07:27.920 streaming on Twitch Slash Dan Reichert, that's my stuff. 2651 02:07:28.880 --> 02:07:31.640 Nice. I'm just here a Firescape cast outside of my 2652 02:07:31.720 --> 02:07:35.439 day job. Well great, it was episode eight nine. We 2653 02:07:35.479 --> 02:07:38.920 will be back episode ninety in a couple of weeks. 2654 02:07:39.720 --> 02:07:43.680 At that point, I'm trying to think there actually might 2655 02:07:43.720 --> 02:07:46.960 be a couple. Oh that'll be the day after I 2656 02:07:47.079 --> 02:07:48.520 turn twenty one. 2657 02:07:50.039 --> 02:07:54.439 Big planets probably, yeah, yeah, get video first. 2658 02:07:54.640 --> 02:07:56.760 Ooh, if you're not a video page? Am I allowed 2659 02:07:56.760 --> 02:07:57.880 to drink on Patreon? 2660 02:07:57.960 --> 02:08:00.920 It? I guess I'm gonna make ane. I'm going to 2661 02:08:00.960 --> 02:08:02.279 show you some wine. 2662 02:08:02.640 --> 02:08:06.119 Wine seems pretentious. You're you're a big boy now, seems 2663 02:08:06.159 --> 02:08:08.479 a bit too high brow. Do you have any white Zinfandels? 2664 02:08:08.880 --> 02:08:09.760 It's my favorite? 2665 02:08:09.960 --> 02:08:11.399 Oh nice, I'd like to try. 2666 02:08:11.439 --> 02:08:12.760 That's all drink? 2667 02:08:13.600 --> 02:08:14.279 Isn't it a bag? 2668 02:08:15.279 --> 02:08:16.720 Yes, a goon sack. 2669 02:08:16.920 --> 02:08:22.319 I've heard good things. But yeah. We'll be back on 2670 02:08:22.560 --> 02:08:27.079 September twenty third. The Fall it's here. I like it, 2671 02:08:27.680 --> 02:08:32.000 me too, holding down this weekend in theory. 2672 02:08:32.439 --> 02:08:34.319 Yeah, sorry, all. 2673 02:08:34.279 --> 02:08:36.319 Right, well ally right, thank you for joining. We appreciate it. 2674 02:08:36.319 --> 02:08:38.680 As always, We'll see you on the next episode of 2675 02:08:38.760 --> 02:08:39.640 fire Escape Cast. 2676 02:08:40.199 --> 02:09:06.560 Bye. St