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Speaker 2: By Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to Iron the Ball here
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Jay Gonzalez.
Speaker 2: You have our guy Ryan with us today. It's three o'clock.
Speaker 2: Do you know where your children are?
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that it should be on
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Speaker 3: around there maybe.
Speaker 2: But we're glad you're listening to us. Three o'clock Thursday,
Speaker 2: two days away, about forty eight to fifty three hours,
Speaker 2: fifty four hours away from a tip off for tip
Speaker 2: off KICKOFFICA. I'm thinking basketball.
Speaker 3: I know you're already thinking basketball. Well, you don't care
Speaker 3: about fall.
Speaker 2: Did you see did you see the Uy's meme about
Speaker 2: the roster yesterday? Did you see it yet?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: There's like a one hundre people on the bench, one
Speaker 2: hundred people on the bench, twenty actually twenty people. They
Speaker 2: have nine walk ons, nine walk ons. Give me, I
Speaker 2: bet you can't name three of them. Three walk on Yeah, wait,
Speaker 2: they're kind of it's kind of a trick question. Wait, wait,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, what are we talking about? Basketball?
Speaker 3: Basketball? They got nine walk basketball walk on. I don't
Speaker 3: know anything. Oh no, Whiteman left right, he went to
Speaker 3: like I had a host state in Montana.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, wrong, he's on the team, he's on his stay.
Speaker 2: He thought he was leaving me too. I saw the name.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I think he owns a seat there. So
Speaker 2: they're just gonna kind of keep on the which is fine.
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see his name on the this. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's one I guess, giving you. I don't have I
Speaker 2: don't have three. I don't have the walk on Desiree's son. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: what's his name? No, No, I think it's Noah huh
Speaker 2: Jackson Jackson from Jackson something or you have the thing
Speaker 2: in front of you. Okay, Jackson read first, Okay Jackson Okay.
Speaker 2: But then there's another one that you probably won't guess,
Speaker 2: but it's kind of maybe obvious. Tommy Light's kid, Tommy
Speaker 2: Lloyd's kid.
Speaker 3: Ah ah. So he came down from Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2: No, he was at Northern nau I think he au
Speaker 2: that's right, that's right, man. Well, if Tommy was looking
Speaker 2: for depth, he's got at it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: He's got four teams. He's got four teams.
Speaker 3: I hadn't I hadn't seen that. I saw yesterday the
Speaker 3: twenty guys. Okay, I just called it up twenty guys.
Speaker 2: Because somebody he'll play how many you need? Eight and
Speaker 2: he'll play eight.
Speaker 3: How many of those guys do you?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, come on, they gotta.
Speaker 3: Eat Liam Liam Lloyd that must be him. Yeah, Liam
Speaker 3: Jackson Francois played at Missouri before he was at Missouri,
Speaker 3: So why came I think? Uh So, Now they got
Speaker 3: a lot of dudes, a lot of practices are going
Speaker 3: to be either borne, boring or.
Speaker 2: H with the you know, he's gonna go to a
Speaker 2: deep so twelve dudes are going to actually plays. Well,
Speaker 2: we got to you got to. Bradley is a number zero, right,
Speaker 2: you got to Bradley, Caleb one, who's go down that list?
Speaker 2: Tayl Love is number one, Anderson Arnold does he walk
Speaker 2: on a scholarship? I think he's Anthony del Orso. Then
Speaker 2: Trey Townsend, he's a he's a he's a transfer portal.
Speaker 2: Guy kJ Lewis is five, Carter Bryant.
Speaker 3: Between there and between there's Jackson Francois, but Carter Bryant
Speaker 3: is nine, Francoise eight, Carter Bryant is nine. Leam Lloyd
Speaker 3: is eleven. Will Kaikendahle. I'm guessing that's a walk on.
Speaker 3: He's twelve. Henry Vassar Scholarship.
Speaker 2: Look at it. Look at it, Henry shoulder. What's the
Speaker 2: first thing you noticed?
Speaker 3: He's got a beard.
Speaker 2: He's sticker, he's sticker.
Speaker 3: He looks like he got shoulders.
Speaker 2: He was like, like, mister Tim, actually.
Speaker 3: Looks a little thicker than than than creep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he looks good. I think. Let me tell
Speaker 2: you something I screwed up last year and thinking my
Speaker 2: guy was going to be the star with a star, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the guy who school. Yeah, Philip, I'm gonna put my money.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kick.
Speaker 3: Henry okay, and your Vassar. And then there's white Man,
Speaker 3: Jackson Cook, Luke Champion, I'll walk ons right, Toby o' waka,
Speaker 3: he's not a walk on. No, Okay, Wilman a walk on.
Speaker 3: Emmanuel Steven No, he's a he's a freshman. Okay, Siny
Speaker 3: when Joe or something like that. And then Conrad Martinez, the.
Speaker 2: Rudy, the Rudy of the Minute, he's gonna play sometime.
Speaker 3: I bet you he plays it. But yeah, yeah, Tommy's
Speaker 3: been talking him up for a while now.
Speaker 2: So hey, Tony, they're gonna have to expand the bottom because.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing some of those guys are sitting in the
Speaker 3: back row of course. Yeah, and then you still look
Speaker 3: an travel twelve.
Speaker 2: And then the entourage, what about don't.
Speaker 3: Where they gonna put them all?
Speaker 2: They're gonna take score with you hearing.
Speaker 3: Some rumblings about certain things that are going to be
Speaker 3: going on on that side of the floor.
Speaker 2: What do you mean to say that you're hearing anything?
Speaker 3: Oh well, hmm, I just gotta throw that out there.
Speaker 2: Can you bribe? Okay, I'm just gonna throw This is
Speaker 2: a news organization, you know, but I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To balance being a news guy and being a uh,
Speaker 3: you know, being on somebody who works at these games.
Speaker 2: You want to keep getting me stuff, so I'll get it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I told you they've asked me to go
Speaker 3: work the Phoenix, the Red and Blue game. I'm very happy.
Speaker 2: You can't screw that up. Yeah, okay, I was gonna
Speaker 2: tell you so you were doing a little double duty today,
Speaker 2: look at you. Yeah, he went to the press cards.
Speaker 3: I went. I did go to the press conference. They
Speaker 3: were all shot surprised to see me.
Speaker 2: Who's the new kid you registered for this class?
Speaker 3: Okay, I go walking in, Jeff Bugles, where are you being?
Speaker 3: I'm like, I've been busy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were all there. They were like a couple
Speaker 3: of eyebrows raised that I walked in the or but
Speaker 3: then you didn't walk in, so there was like, okay,
Speaker 3: things are normal as far as that goes. I hadn't
Speaker 3: been there, you know. And we did get some clips
Speaker 3: and maybe we got to get to those because we
Speaker 3: got to we got a loaded show, right, We got
Speaker 3: guests the whole the whole day.
Speaker 2: Tell people who we have and then we'll go to
Speaker 2: your clips.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, Joe Tofoy is going to join us. Guy
Speaker 3: from played in the Lake the late two thousands, towards
Speaker 3: the tail end of the Dick Tomy era, uh played
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Who's the Cardinals the Seahawks? So we
Speaker 3: weren't gonna have Joe and he was, you know, very
Speaker 3: vocal when Jed Fish got hired to see what he
Speaker 3: what he thinks about Brent Brennan. I think Brendan was here, right,
Speaker 3: went too was here? Wasn't bred b Brenton grad? Yeah,
Speaker 3: So that to Foy was your ninety seventy two thousand.
Speaker 3: So we'll talk to him about the season getting started.
Speaker 3: Same with Jake Fisher. We'll get him today instead of
Speaker 3: tomorrow because we're loaded up with our guests tomorrow and
Speaker 3: then uh, and then we're gonna have Aeron Taurres from
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. He's got the tours, he's got the
Speaker 3: national podcasts, he can speak to things from a national perspective.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And we'll talk to him in the in the final
Speaker 3: segment of the show.
Speaker 2: And he's still heavy on Arizona stuff. He always has
Speaker 2: his interns do some stuff. So we'll talk to him
Speaker 2: about that. So let's go I want to know what
Speaker 2: the heck you asked?
Speaker 3: Well, let's go that. Let's go that one first. You know,
Speaker 3: I just I just asked him. Uh, well, you know
Speaker 3: you'll hear the question, but it's basically, okay, you know,
Speaker 3: do you get nervous and are you is your nervousness
Speaker 3: different you know, in your first game in Arizona versus
Speaker 3: you know, your your time at San Jose State. And
Speaker 3: here's here's what he had to here's his answer to that.
Speaker 4: But just you know, after so many months of grinding,
Speaker 4: doesn't mean to finally gets to the point where you're.
Speaker 3: Of course the beam mad that you start to get nervous.
Speaker 2: And that.
Speaker 5: Last year exactly say, I think it'll be I mean,
Speaker 5: I think it has to be different. Right, this is
Speaker 5: the first game here, so it's gonna be and and
Speaker 5: you know, I have different connections to the University of
Speaker 5: Arizona that I had to San Jose.
Speaker 2: Both places really special to me. So like that part
Speaker 2: of it's cool.
Speaker 5: But I think there's always a little bit of nervous
Speaker 5: enthusiasm for and and also for the start of the season,
Speaker 5: so like just to get started. There's been so much work,
Speaker 5: so much time put into the last seven months. We
Speaker 5: finally get to play football. And so that part is
Speaker 5: I'm excited.
Speaker 2: About, yeah, you know, standardized, Yeah, yeah, but I kind
Speaker 2: of I was kind of dry to him.
Speaker 3: You know, this is a big deal, sure right, sure,
Speaker 3: And and you know he's gonna he obviously doesn't want
Speaker 3: to bad mouth San Jose State. But this has got
Speaker 3: to be a huge deal for you, right, and and what.
Speaker 2: They ask you, So you're asking the question, what were
Speaker 2: you hoping for?
Speaker 3: I was hoping for him to say, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm here, I'm in Arizona. I'm excited with you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm in the Power five, I'm
Speaker 3: in Power for School. Uh, you know, we're playing for
Speaker 3: big stuff. We've got an incredible team. Yeah, I'm nervous.
Speaker 3: And you know, he didn't want to say. Yeah, Sam
Speaker 3: State kind of become old hat for him.
Speaker 2: So but he's he's he might be a low.
Speaker 3: Key not even Keel, not low key even Keel.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's not coach speak, but even Keel is a good.
Speaker 3: He He he got asked about the camaraderie of this team, right,
Speaker 3: because you don't have to talk. You and I have
Speaker 3: talk a million, But the locker room's got to be
Speaker 3: a bad locker room. You have a better chance of
Speaker 3: having a bad tea. Here's what he had to say
Speaker 3: talking about the togetherness of this team.
Speaker 4: Dino Vaders talked about how the chemistry and the camaraderie
Speaker 4: is probably the best that he's seen out of all
Speaker 4: the teams that he's coached. From your perspective, what can
Speaker 4: say about the guys.
Speaker 5: I would agree it's fantastic, And I think it's led
Speaker 5: by those leadership group, you know, those guys that.
Speaker 2: Were you know, some of those guys were here for or.
Speaker 5: Like the long haul, so that you know that kind
Speaker 5: of that was forged through the fire, so to speak
Speaker 5: of like not having success and struggling and working together
Speaker 5: and keep pushing and.
Speaker 2: Then having the success they had last year.
Speaker 5: And then I also think it has a lot to
Speaker 5: do with the guys that are our best players also
Speaker 5: or our highest profile players are also like kind of
Speaker 5: the best team guys on our team. If you're thinking
Speaker 5: about Fafita or Gunn or Stukes or you know Jacomanu
Speaker 5: or Team Ac, you know, like that's you know, Baker,
Speaker 5: like those guys have great awareness of the importance of
Speaker 5: them keeping everyone together and continuing to lean into that brotherhood.
Speaker 2: Do you believe, maybe both of you, Do you believe
Speaker 2: that teams take on the personality.
Speaker 3: Of the coach often they do?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, great, good, thank you. What type of personality
Speaker 2: do you think they're going to have given what you
Speaker 2: know or what we know about Brendan.
Speaker 3: You know, I think I think it's going to be well.
Speaker 3: First of all, we don't know how things are behind
Speaker 3: the scenes, right, Is he more fiery than he hears
Speaker 3: like in a press conference or whatever. But then when
Speaker 3: you also think of the assistant coaches that he have,
Speaker 3: as like Duyne a Quina, right, I feel like the
Speaker 3: defense will really take on doing a keenness personality and right,
Speaker 3: and he wants that. It's different because I think, you know,
Speaker 3: in in comparison to Jed Fish, Brennan is more of
Speaker 3: a you know, kind of on the side kind of guy.
Speaker 3: He's letting in his coaches, coach. You know, Deno baber
Speaker 3: is going to call the plays. You know that Deno
Speaker 3: Babers is leading the offense, whereas you know Jed Fish
Speaker 3: was in the middle of it. So in some case
Speaker 3: that's why I said, in some cases they do. I
Speaker 3: think I think maybe a thing that we might see
Speaker 3: is that this he might have a calmness about it
Speaker 3: even when things are you know, crazy, right, or they
Speaker 3: might not get too high and they might not get
Speaker 3: too low, because that's what Brennan seems to do. You know,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when you talked about a team
Speaker 3: taking on the personality of their coach. I think I
Speaker 3: think of the Walt Hazzard U c l A basketball
Speaker 3: teams that Walt Hazard was a big giant piece of
Speaker 3: jerkdness and his teams were that too.
Speaker 2: Says what Arizona fans. You know, they they were you know,
Speaker 2: they they took on that personality, you know, Reggie Miller
Speaker 2: and and that group they were just they were just
Speaker 2: a bunch of big giant turns and because Walt was Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: So so that that's an extreme example. But you think
Speaker 3: about think about Dick's teams, right, they were you know,
Speaker 3: blue collar guys, hard workers, over achieving, you know, right,
Speaker 3: you know, so it depends but not just depends, right,
Speaker 3: it depends how forceful or strong a personality a coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Having covered Loot for twenty years, I totally
Speaker 2: agree that they do take on the personality Arizona was Loot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, they prepared, they played, they prepared, they played.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they didn't, they didn't. They were too A loof
Speaker 2: is not the right word, but whatever is just below
Speaker 2: a loof is let the right.
Speaker 3: Sometimes maybe they were a little more calm than they
Speaker 3: should have been maybe had some more urgency.
Speaker 2: They needed more urgency. Well I saw that a few times.
Speaker 2: Was it in March?
Speaker 3: Maybe, Steve, you're so mean?
Speaker 2: No, okay, maybe mean, but.
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad this room doesn't take on your personality.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? The place is a disaster.
Speaker 3: We got to get out of here.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool. So who's our first guy.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have. You don't want one of the top
Speaker 3: defensive players to show very insightful the guy we haven't
Speaker 3: talked to him since they got Brandon, right because he
Speaker 3: was a big jed guy about he was in the meetings.
Speaker 3: Well he was, he was. He was initially uncertain about
Speaker 3: Jed like everybody else was, but he bought in to
Speaker 3: him and so I don't know, I think that might
Speaker 3: have been the last time we talked to him. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll see his thoughts on Brent Brannan and his thoughts
Speaker 3: on what do you expect from this team coming out?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Eye the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve rivera Hez Chicken Sauce. Now
Speaker 2: on the phone, we have Joe Dafoya, formerly a former
Speaker 2: u A football player from nineteen eighty seven to two thousand.
Speaker 7: Joe, how are you, hey, guys doing well?
Speaker 2: We don't do it fine? Thank you? You up in Seattle?
Speaker 7: Yes, i am.
Speaker 2: How are things up in the specific Northwest? Have you?
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've run into Jet at the old mall there. Yeah.
Speaker 7: We hang out at the same places.
Speaker 2: Man, we'll do that later.
Speaker 7: I like to go out and I like to steal
Speaker 7: his friends and think his drinks the same way.
Speaker 2: Came over and did us. Yeah, you're not bitter, that's cool. Hey,
Speaker 2: So so tell us excited about the year coming up?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there are a lot of things to
Speaker 7: be excited about, aren't there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Friends, new coach, new look, new kids on the team.
Speaker 7: I'm not really sure what to think about this whole
Speaker 7: nil thing, but yeah, if that truly fact, there's not
Speaker 7: as much as people are thinking it does. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of things to be excited about,
Speaker 7: you guys.
Speaker 3: When you well, when you saw how how how uh
Speaker 3: they were able to keep the team together whether it
Speaker 3: was how much of it was Brennan's doing or how
Speaker 3: much of it was the players, you know, deciding to
Speaker 3: do that because you know, everybody down here, I know,
Speaker 3: was worried, Okay, Jed's gone, everybody's going to follow him
Speaker 3: or whatever, and that didn't happen. What does that tell
Speaker 3: you about what's going on down here as far as all.
Speaker 7: That goes, What that shows me is that there's a
Speaker 7: culture that's being built, and somewhere within that culture, you
Speaker 7: have great leadership, whether it's Brennan, whether it's staff, the Kina,
Speaker 7: you know, the guys that have been around for a
Speaker 7: long time, whether it's the players, the ones that came
Speaker 7: in together and vowed to stay together. You know, that
Speaker 7: type of thing. It's rare to find nowadays in this
Speaker 7: all about me culture, you know. So they're building their
Speaker 7: own over there in Tucson, and it's exciting.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you. I asked Jay this earlier.
Speaker 2: Do teams take on the personality of coaches? If so,
Speaker 2: what type of team will this be if they do
Speaker 2: take the personality of Brennan? Well, and maybe here's another question,
Speaker 2: So did your teams take on the personality of Dick Tomy.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, when you spend that much time with somebody,
Speaker 7: and you know, in this day and age, it's kind
Speaker 7: of rare for our teams to stick together the way
Speaker 7: that we did back then. The coach has a huge
Speaker 7: influence and as a huge, huge influence on you as
Speaker 7: a human being and as a football player, and you
Speaker 7: really start to adopt a lot of his ideologies and
Speaker 7: his methods and the way that he you know, he
Speaker 7: was he spoke with language he would use and eventually
Speaker 7: that would turn into play on the football field, you know,
Speaker 7: like hard work, ticking together, you really start to trust
Speaker 7: in each other. When I got into the NFL, guys
Speaker 7: like Mike Homgrin, we didn't spend that much time around
Speaker 7: him as a human you know, you spend a little
Speaker 7: bit of time on the field and some time and meetings.
Speaker 7: So I have to imagine that over there in Tucson
Speaker 7: with with coach Brennan. I think he's really trying to
Speaker 7: build the culture right now and really trying to go
Speaker 7: backwards and adopt some of those same ideologies, you know,
Speaker 7: with some of the old coaching staff. And you know,
Speaker 7: I love seeing all the pictures on the wall. Makes
Speaker 7: me feel really old when I go there and see
Speaker 7: legendary players and legendary moments and they were like back
Speaker 7: in time, back in the nineteen hundreds. But bringing that
Speaker 7: forward into this day and age, I think it can
Speaker 7: be a special time right now for Tucson, And it
Speaker 7: could be a special time for you know, Coach Brennan
Speaker 7: and his team if they can stay together and play
Speaker 7: the way that that he's trying to get them to play.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you when when when when you're look,
Speaker 3: and we were coming about the fact that Brent Brennan
Speaker 3: seems to be kind of a I don't want to
Speaker 3: say low key, but sort of an even keeled kind
Speaker 3: of guy. Right, He doesn't seem to get you know,
Speaker 3: super fired up and not at the same time, he
Speaker 3: doesn't get you know, really low Does a coach have
Speaker 3: to have sort of a be on one end or
Speaker 3: the other for teams to you know, as you say,
Speaker 3: get their personality or can it be somebody who's kind
Speaker 3: of always calm and that kind of stuff? You know?
Speaker 3: I mean because that like, look, we all we all
Speaker 3: love Dick Tomy, but we saw him get fired up,
Speaker 3: you know, more than a time or two. So, you know,
Speaker 3: does a coach have to have sort of a very
Speaker 3: outgoing persona like that for for for players to get
Speaker 3: behind them.
Speaker 7: Not for them to get behind them, but if you're
Speaker 7: looking for a team to be fiery and for them
Speaker 7: to adopt the personality of their head coach, I would
Speaker 7: say that Brennan is a guy who is going to
Speaker 7: keep things together. He's going to appear calm. He's going
Speaker 7: to But I don't know if you guys know him
Speaker 7: the way that some other guys we don't don't. Don't
Speaker 7: you know, he may not necessarily be the guy that
Speaker 7: you think he is. You haven't seen him behind close
Speaker 7: doors and you haven't seen him, you know, get really
Speaker 7: spired up and get angry throw remote controls. There's a
Speaker 7: tendency to do that in all competitive people, and I
Speaker 7: don't think we've seen it come out yet. You know,
Speaker 7: there were coaches in the past that all of a
Speaker 7: sudden you saw them change in the middle of the
Speaker 7: middle of the game, middle of the season. I don't
Speaker 7: think we've seen that out of him yet. But to
Speaker 7: answer your question, I think that truly where the personality
Speaker 7: of the team comes from is that nucleus, sort of
Speaker 7: the core of players who have been there, not necessarily
Speaker 7: the longest, but the ones that are working the hardest
Speaker 7: and the ones that are the most respected on the team,
Speaker 7: the ones that show up the practice every single day
Speaker 7: hurt or not, the ones that are providing leadership roles
Speaker 7: inside of the team. That's where the personality comes from.
Speaker 7: And then the coach has an opportunity to influence just
Speaker 7: a handful of guys. You know, so Joe usually works.
Speaker 2: So, Joe, you were here at one of the best
Speaker 2: times in school history for football, right, you do really
Speaker 2: well at ninety eight. I think you're probably going into
Speaker 2: your junior year in ninety nine something like that. So
Speaker 2: we talk about this all the time. You know, they
Speaker 2: have really good success and all of a sudden something
Speaker 2: happens and the next year they don't. So what would
Speaker 2: you suggest to this team to guard against this year
Speaker 2: after last year's very good year.
Speaker 7: Well, I think one of the problems is getting distracted
Speaker 7: in the offseason looking at those numbers, buying into what
Speaker 7: people are talking about, you know, buying into the fluff, fine,
Speaker 7: into everybody's slapping you on the back saying you guys
Speaker 7: are looking good. I don't think that's going to happen
Speaker 7: this year. There's a couple of reasons. A. We're in
Speaker 7: a brand new conference and there's a lot of unknowns,
Speaker 7: things that you don't expect. You don't know what teams
Speaker 7: are playing, you don't know them, you're not familiar with them.
Speaker 7: I mean, b you've got a new head coach and
Speaker 7: a new mentality, and I just feel like this is
Speaker 7: going to be a unique situation for the Wildcats because
Speaker 7: back then we were slapping ourselves on the back. Everybody
Speaker 7: was congratulating us. I remember going into the Penn State game,
Speaker 7: We're ranked number four in the nation, and we would
Speaker 7: have terrible practices, terrible where I could see coaches getting upset,
Speaker 7: but nobody really wants to say anything. And then we
Speaker 7: brought that out onto the field and just got murdered.
Speaker 7: I don't see that happening. There's a Yuleman type attitude
Speaker 7: on this team right now that if they can continue
Speaker 7: to work this hard. I was just talking to Bobby
Speaker 7: Wade the other day. These guys are hungry, they want
Speaker 7: to play, and they're ready to do They're ready to
Speaker 7: go out and play football against someone other than themselves.
Speaker 7: And I know that said a lot, but I mean,
Speaker 7: these first two games against New Mexico and who were
Speaker 7: playing Northern Arizona, those to me, they look like preseason
Speaker 7: games warm up. You know, you want to you want
Speaker 7: to get a lot of your guys extra reps in there.
Speaker 7: But we're we're not really going to see who this
Speaker 7: team is until we face Utah. And I think, you know,
Speaker 7: if I'm reading the scene correctly right now, I think
Speaker 7: that we're going to be super competitive this year. Rare
Speaker 7: to have that happen when a new coach comes in
Speaker 7: with the new staff, but I just really feel like
Speaker 7: this team will be competitive.
Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about your you know, the
Speaker 3: start of the season and maybe your freshman year, did
Speaker 3: did you did you have did you shirt a year
Speaker 3: or did you play? I didn't think you're okay. So
Speaker 3: the first year that you thought you were going to
Speaker 3: play and you're going into the first you know, practice
Speaker 3: week that week, you know games coming up, you might
Speaker 3: get you know, you might see some action. What's going
Speaker 3: through your head as a you know, as a brand
Speaker 3: new player in the program.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of excitement but also a lot of nerves.
Speaker 7: And when I look back on those days, I mean,
Speaker 7: that was a long time ago. Now, guys, right, I played.
Speaker 7: I played on that team back in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 7: I think about just how young I was and how
Speaker 7: inexperienced I was, and you can't there's there's no way
Speaker 7: to make up for those game scenarios and the game experience.
Speaker 7: So you got to You got some young guys who
Speaker 7: have shown traumise in high school and maybe are looking
Speaker 7: good in the red shirt season. You're gonna put them
Speaker 7: on the field for the first time. They're gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 7: I just remember making a ton of mistakes my first year.
Speaker 7: We had a guy named coach Rich Ellerson who told
Speaker 7: me that if this was the NFL, he would have
Speaker 7: cut me. They're going to make a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 7: I'm excited because a lot of times, especially in the
Speaker 7: early games and in college, you can make up a
Speaker 7: lot with athleticism, but there's really no substitute for experience.
Speaker 7: And so that's why I was saying, maybe it's a
Speaker 7: good idea to get some of these younger guys reps
Speaker 7: early on. In these first two games the long season,
Speaker 7: a lot of injuries happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, get.
Speaker 7: Them some reps, get that experience under their belt. And
Speaker 7: really try and build momentum moving towards that first conference game.
Speaker 2: You know, let me kind of talk about of the
Speaker 2: subject a little. So Joe Tafoya comes to Arizona twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty two to twenty three, it struggles, like
Speaker 2: you said, in the first first year and probably has
Speaker 2: you know, he's told that he's not any good or
Speaker 2: he's not gonna he would have been cut or whatever.
Speaker 2: Would you would Joe Tafoya transfer Now, given the transfer
Speaker 2: situation these days, I think.
Speaker 7: A lot of that has to do with the influence
Speaker 7: that's around you, your parents, specifically, if your parents are
Speaker 7: inexperienced and you're surrounded by other influential people cousins, coaches,
Speaker 7: maybe some outside people like an agent type guy, or
Speaker 7: you know, they can easily influence you to go one
Speaker 7: way or the other. Joe Tafoya back in nineteen ninety
Speaker 7: six when I graduated high school, I'm the type of
Speaker 7: guy that I leave the dance with the same girl
Speaker 7: that I go to the dance. I ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 7: You got to start somewhere right right, in my opinion,
Speaker 7: if you don't show who you are in the program
Speaker 7: early on and really like showcase your talent in the
Speaker 7: weight rooms, in the practice field, then you shouldn't get
Speaker 7: an opportunity to play. And the guys that want to
Speaker 7: switch over and go play for other teams. I don't know. Hey,
Speaker 7: I'm old school, so I don't I don't like that.
Speaker 7: I like the idea of, you know, sticking with it
Speaker 7: and fighting for your shot. Yeah, there's gonna be a
Speaker 7: guy that you Yeah, you're always going to be a pupetition.
Speaker 2: But it's like that everywhere, right, No, I think that's Joe.
Speaker 2: We don't usually have pragmatic people on our phone. Thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, because today that's not the way it is.
Speaker 2: Oh someone beat me out. I'm going to go to
Speaker 2: another place. And what's for them to think that they're
Speaker 2: going to have it easier somewhere else?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the devil you know, o versus the
Speaker 7: one you don't. The grass is greener on the other side.
Speaker 7: It always looks better when you're looking at it through
Speaker 7: that lens. They're on this team for a reason. Somebody
Speaker 7: wanted them there, right, you got recruited or you know,
Speaker 7: they have a whole scouting department. Somebody looked at you
Speaker 7: and they said, hey, I want this guy. When you
Speaker 7: go and you put yourself on the wire and you're
Speaker 7: going out to a new situation, there's just so many
Speaker 7: unknowns and there's not as many people in your corner
Speaker 7: as there are when you have been recruited by a team. Yes,
Speaker 7: I think about free agency in the NFL. Guys that
Speaker 7: are unrestricted free agents, they get picked up by a team,
Speaker 7: They were scouted by that team, somebody wanted them on
Speaker 7: that team. Just because they didn't have a spot to
Speaker 7: pick them and they didn't have, you know, enough draft
Speaker 7: picks to get them, doesn't mean that they weren't wanted.
Speaker 7: If you take your chance and you go somewhere else,
Speaker 7: you know, through the portal or wherever, then you're taking
Speaker 7: a chance that you know they're you're not going to
Speaker 7: have as much support. So bid in the dead horse here.
Speaker 7: But I really in this day and age, you find
Speaker 7: the kid that commits and sticks with it. Yeah, for
Speaker 7: all four years, it's rare now.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So let me ask you. Let me go
Speaker 2: back again in the back of the day. So did
Speaker 2: how long was your NFL career? Eight years? Eight years?
Speaker 2: So did Joe Tafoya get every last moment of the
Speaker 2: NFL career he should have had, could have had. And
Speaker 2: I asked that because you always probably want more. But
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you got what you got.
Speaker 2: Could there have been more.
Speaker 7: I don't think anyone ever just walks away from the NFL.
Speaker 7: I think it's very, very rare. I mean you, even
Speaker 7: way back when Joe Montana was playing, one of the
Speaker 7: greatest quarterbacks of all time, he still wanted to play,
Speaker 7: and he got released and got picked up by Kansas City,
Speaker 7: you know, and then you know, Tom Brady still wants
Speaker 7: to play. Guess what, you can't be a Patriot forever.
Speaker 7: I don't think there's a guy out there who would
Speaker 7: say that he got everything that he wanted out of
Speaker 7: the NFL, even the very best of the best. So no,
Speaker 7: I didn't. The difference is when you get injured while
Speaker 7: you're playing football, the decisions made for you. So that's
Speaker 7: what happened. I got injured. I broke my foot towards
Speaker 7: some ligaments, and I came out of surgery and the
Speaker 7: doctor said, that's it.
Speaker 3: That's all you got.
Speaker 7: When that doesn't happen, and you have the option to
Speaker 7: keep playing, and you keep trying, and you keep trying
Speaker 7: out and trying out and trying out that leaves you
Speaker 7: with a really bitter taste in your mouth.
Speaker 2: Right, makes sense?
Speaker 3: So you know you mentioned these two games are like
Speaker 3: these first two games. You know, Arizona should win their
Speaker 3: favored they're ranked all that kind of stuff. But how
Speaker 3: do you keep your focus in that? Right? Because New
Speaker 3: Mexico is New Mexico. I mean, you should beat them,
Speaker 3: but there's still a Division I program.
Speaker 2: How do you style points? Yeah, how do you.
Speaker 3: Keep everything straight so that you don't go into that
Speaker 3: game and have something bad happen to you?
Speaker 7: Well, that's coaching there. So coaches have to get the
Speaker 7: team prepared. They have to have a good game plan
Speaker 7: for multiple scenarios scenario. As you know, we execute, We're
Speaker 7: fundamentally sound. We look good. I've got everything that I
Speaker 7: need to see on film. Now I can start switching
Speaker 7: guys out. Yes, we're starting to make mistakes. You know,
Speaker 7: you have to make adjustments on the fly. And I
Speaker 7: think the biggest thing that really factors into those early
Speaker 7: games making mistakes is just the preparation that goes into
Speaker 7: it in the off season. You know, you practice so
Speaker 7: hard and you train so hard all year long, all
Speaker 7: off season, to get to this first game. There's no
Speaker 7: need to overdo it. You go to the fundamentals. You know.
Speaker 7: If we're a running team, we run the ball. If
Speaker 7: we're a passing team, you know, we find a way
Speaker 7: to block for that quarterback. If we're a blitzing team,
Speaker 7: we bring the package. Do what you do best and
Speaker 7: then let the chips fall where they may. If you're
Speaker 7: if your tendency is to be one of the scheme
Speaker 7: guys and make all the kinds of you know different
Speaker 7: you know, running sleep flickers and all that. That that
Speaker 7: to me, I don't like that, But do that, you know,
Speaker 7: whatever you do the best, right, do that?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you Joe. Always good to talk to him.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, good luck, enjoy the game on Saturday, all right,
Speaker 2: be well, okay, so see I never asked him about
Speaker 2: the sales stuff, so it's just fine. But we'll come
Speaker 2: back on those good stuff. He's very thoughtful, right.
Speaker 3: He really is. You know, he's a guy who clearly,
Speaker 3: you know, really smart dude who you know, one had
Speaker 3: a career, enjoyed the career. Feels like you got the
Speaker 3: most out of it, but like everybody else you know,
Speaker 3: would have liked to have gotten more done more.
Speaker 2: No, I agree with him. Who doesn't want more, especially
Speaker 2: when you're getting paid.
Speaker 3: Exactly to do it exactly. All right, we're gonna take
Speaker 3: a break. We'll be back and give us a call
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Eying the Ball here Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's jagins awas you gotta
Speaker 2: die riding with us. We got fifteen minutes. If you
Speaker 2: want to call five two zero four one six seven
Speaker 2: four four zero, I'd like to hear from you. Good
Speaker 2: talk to Joe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I liked I like talking to these
Speaker 3: guys because you know, right they got to play and
Speaker 3: we didn't. So I like having some I don't know,
Speaker 3: trying to get some understanding of you know, what these
Speaker 3: guys go through. I know we talked to Jake about
Speaker 3: that stuff all the time. Jake Fisher, you know what
Speaker 3: was it like? Right? Because we didn't get to experience that,
Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted to say, what was it
Speaker 3: like for you going into this first week? You know,
Speaker 3: your first game, you're going to play college football, You've
Speaker 3: been dreaming of playing college football for years and now
Speaker 3: you're here. How nerve wracking is it? Does that take
Speaker 3: over you know? All those things? Right?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna ask me the question that you
Speaker 2: asked Brennan today. Do you get did you get nervous?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You talk about that a lot. We've talked about in
Speaker 2: the past, like and I say they don't, then I'll
Speaker 2: use this as an example. At some point, they don't
Speaker 2: for you. When you first got came on the show
Speaker 2: with me, you were nervous, nervous as hell, But eventually
Speaker 2: that wears off anymore. After time, it couldn't take it.
Speaker 3: Nervous if you're going to show up, where you're going
Speaker 3: to show up or not.
Speaker 2: Don't ask question. But you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 2: do over time, over time.
Speaker 3: It becomes right. It's what you do, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's something you're you know. Let's say you start as
Speaker 3: a freshman. Yeah, play twelve games as a freshman. Your
Speaker 3: first game the next year, you're gonna be nervous because
Speaker 3: it's the first first game. But once you start playing,
Speaker 3: you know, now it's part of your routine.
Speaker 2: It goes away.
Speaker 3: You don't get nervous about that stuff.
Speaker 2: Anymore, right, right. I think we talked to Glenn Parker
Speaker 2: maybe John Pinau the Super Bowl, right because they were
Speaker 2: in it a few times. Do you get nervous? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it goes away to the first play, right, you know,
Speaker 2: you get hit, you hit somebody in right, and everybody
Speaker 2: says that, yeah, you know you're moving. At some point
Speaker 2: it just becomes another game, which I find hard to believe.
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah that's what they want to say. Well,
Speaker 2: and it's like this, you know, you come here and
Speaker 2: you do this. Oh really yeah, it's not easy whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because people do ask me, you know, do you get
Speaker 2: nervous at the show?
Speaker 3: They said, not anymore?
Speaker 2: Yeah, not anymore, not anymore because it's it's numbrain surgery.
Speaker 3: It's not brain. It's far from brand. It's like far
Speaker 3: from but we do it.
Speaker 2: We couldn't do it otherwise, can't chase dogs? Why did
Speaker 2: not do this?
Speaker 3: But h no, so yeah, so sure, and and it
Speaker 3: was kind of like Brandon's answer was, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: you know you always get some nervousness, but you know,
Speaker 3: you know you've been doing this and so you just
Speaker 3: you just do it and and it's it's part of
Speaker 3: the gig.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think they'll okay, they have New Mexico
Speaker 2: coming in uh and I'm you know, play psychologists on
Speaker 2: the show. If it was not in New Mexico and
Speaker 2: it was opening with Kansas States, Kansas State, you're thinking, okay,
Speaker 2: now we've got to show up, right. And it's maybe
Speaker 2: not even a nervousness, it's an anxiousness or whatever the word.
Speaker 3: Is, because because you really hope that on Saturday that
Speaker 3: they're confident they walk in there like we're here to
Speaker 3: kick your ass, but they don't take it so for granted,
Speaker 3: you know, throwing the proverbial uniforms on the field and
Speaker 3: expecting to win. You know that, And and and that's
Speaker 3: you know that that camaraderie answer that that we got
Speaker 3: from from bread and about this team that he's got
Speaker 3: guys on the team weren't gonna let that happen.
Speaker 2: But by the way, do we have more?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a couple more.
Speaker 2: Well we go there.
Speaker 3: All right, let's uh I do following up on that
Speaker 3: that uh one comment though, you know, he was asked
Speaker 3: who are the captains? They haven't and now that gets
Speaker 3: it going to do some big thing on social media
Speaker 3: or whatever. So he didn't tell them who the captains are,
Speaker 3: but they're there, the captains or captains for the season.
Speaker 3: And then he did say that you know, the players vote.
Speaker 3: He said it was a landslide. He said, you're not
Speaker 3: You're not gonna be surprised, right, So that was interesting. Well,
Speaker 3: let's talk about you know, first question out of the
Speaker 3: box was okay, this first game you guys are about
Speaker 3: ready to play. Tell us about you know, just you know,
Speaker 3: what are your thoughts you know today as to where
Speaker 3: your team is. Justin Spears asked that question.
Speaker 4: But just you know, after so many months of grinding,
Speaker 4: what does the inga finally get to the point where
Speaker 4: you're one day off of the game.
Speaker 2: It's just exciting.
Speaker 5: I'm so fired up for these players and for this
Speaker 5: team and our fans, and it's just to to get
Speaker 5: the game day. It's obviously been a lot the last
Speaker 5: seven months, you know, in kind of the lives of
Speaker 5: Arizona football.
Speaker 2: So and we're just excited to play.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of fun, great energy of practice this week,
Speaker 5: So we're looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: He said, seven much. It kind of flew by really fast.
Speaker 3: No it didn't.
Speaker 2: It dragged, No, because you were waiting. Yeah, maybe I
Speaker 2: remember just two days ago we kind of we introduced himself.
Speaker 2: He introduced him. A month or so later, it was
Speaker 2: no longer. He key, Maybe I'm looking.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just you know, after the fact, thinking that
Speaker 3: was that seemed like a really long summer.
Speaker 2: Yeah really not to you, No, not at all, very fast,
Speaker 2: very fast. It seems to me, well because of what
Speaker 2: because of.
Speaker 3: Because it was hot and it was maybe part of it,
Speaker 3: Steve is because of the anticipation of this. So, like
Speaker 3: I told you, it was like Christmas Day is coming up,
Speaker 3: right and we're going to open our presence. But you
Speaker 3: know it's three days away and it's still like months away.
Speaker 3: It's just been it's just been taking so long. I
Speaker 3: want to get to the season and see what it's
Speaker 3: gonna look like.
Speaker 2: Can you exchange this if you don't like it? If
Speaker 2: it doesn't fit?
Speaker 3: No, I know, damn well, better fit, better fit.
Speaker 2: I hope that shirt that you get tomorrow, that or
Speaker 2: whatever you get fits Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh what One of the one of the storylines is
Speaker 3: Cory krossky Merritt running back running back at New Mexico, Uh,
Speaker 3: playing his former team tomorrow or Saturday.
Speaker 2: Say you still wish?
Speaker 3: Brandon was asked, you know what do you do as
Speaker 3: far as in dealing with a player who's going through
Speaker 3: that kind of situation. Here's what there's a Brandon had
Speaker 3: to say in that. Is there any special conversation you
Speaker 3: or though out with Cory?
Speaker 2: Just thought the emotions of the Segon that could come out.
Speaker 5: You know what, I've a I've had a couple of
Speaker 5: players that I've coached that were kind of went through
Speaker 5: the same situation, and I think the biggest thing for
Speaker 5: them is just, you know, don't let it be about you.
Speaker 5: Let it be a out this team and because that's
Speaker 5: really what it's about anyway.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So I think Core is in a good headspace and
Speaker 5: he's excited to play well.
Speaker 2: I think that's perfect. And I'll give you the example
Speaker 2: of of the quarterback before Noah. I'm just when he
Speaker 2: played at Washington State. Yeah, and he kind of almost
Speaker 2: did make it about himself. And maybe I'm overthinking this too,
Speaker 2: but he got he got he had twenty interceptions or
Speaker 2: whatever that it was like, you know me, he felt
Speaker 2: like it was me against.
Speaker 3: You and and that's the worst thing you can do, right, right,
Speaker 3: And that's what and that's what Brendan said.
Speaker 2: I think that's great.
Speaker 3: You got to tell him to not make it about it.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's not.
Speaker 3: But you're on this other team now, and go out
Speaker 3: of play with that with that team and for that team,
Speaker 3: and don't think about the the guys on the other.
Speaker 2: Side, because the guys behind you are here for you,
Speaker 2: right And you know, if you're good, You're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, early, I'm anxious to see him, right, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah right and all the things to see him. I
Speaker 3: want to see what he looks like. You know, he
Speaker 3: looks like a beast from.
Speaker 2: I'll be happy. I'll be happy. To me, it'll be
Speaker 2: like Jacob Cowing where he comes here you tap how
Speaker 2: good can he be? Right? How could? And then he
Speaker 2: turns out to be very good, very good. So my
Speaker 2: point is everybody's it's like Brennan when when he first
Speaker 2: got the jomb Brennan, he came from santase State. How
Speaker 2: good can he be?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: Oh, this kid from New Mexico.
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 2: Sometimes this works out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just what Just because you weren't good enough to
Speaker 3: be there three years ago, it doesn't mean you're not
Speaker 3: good enough to be here now. Sure, right, and and
Speaker 3: you know, Brandon worked his way up and he and
Speaker 3: now he's here.
Speaker 2: Roy from from Roy Lopez who went to New Mexico State,
Speaker 2: came here with Wallace did very well. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 2: It's it's just competing against yourself and proving that you're
Speaker 2: gonna bet on yourself.
Speaker 3: And that's and that's really one of the good things
Speaker 3: about the transfer portal is that these guys who maybe
Speaker 3: didn't get the chance, the break, maybe they didn't get seen,
Speaker 3: maybe uh, you know, the injury, or they were taking longer,
Speaker 3: too mature than you know, some kid who's a five
Speaker 3: star who's coming out of high school and he's already
Speaker 3: got the size and the speed and all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. Maybe takes them some you know, take some
Speaker 3: of these guys sometime, you know. I mean I was
Speaker 3: a way better baseball player at thirty than I was
Speaker 3: at fifteen.
Speaker 2: Right, I was gonna say, you probably didn't have good uniforms.
Speaker 2: Then you look until you get older.
Speaker 3: Let's take this call. Hi, you're on the aar and
Speaker 3: eye and the ball.
Speaker 15: My fellow is Jim.
Speaker 3: What's up, Jim.
Speaker 15: I really enjoyed Joe's interview with you folks. He made
Speaker 15: a couple of made a couple of points that really
Speaker 15: stuck out from my point of view, which were and
Speaker 15: one was on a personal level that to the kid
Speaker 15: that thinking thinking about moving around or he's not, you know,
Speaker 15: in the right place, he made an excellent point. And
Speaker 15: somebody there wanted you, somebody there recruited you, and that's
Speaker 15: where that's where.
Speaker 14: You should be.
Speaker 15: And then the other one is right at the end
Speaker 15: of his talk, he talks about you know what kind
Speaker 15: of team you are And the point he made that
Speaker 15: I thought was a great one is if you're gonna
Speaker 15: get beat, get beat on your best pitch.
Speaker 3: Yep, which is which which Brendan kind of said on
Speaker 3: Tuesday or Monday Monday when he was asked, you know,
Speaker 3: how how much of your playbook will you show against
Speaker 3: New Mexico or you're going to try and keep some things,
Speaker 3: and he said, We're to call the plays we need
Speaker 3: to call to win. And that's as you say, He's
Speaker 3: gonna call his best pitches, you know, to win the game,
Speaker 3: and that's what matters more than anything.
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's a crazy question. And he's like, we're going
Speaker 15: to try and win the game, so whatever it takes, right,
Speaker 15: I don't.
Speaker 2: I never got into the playoffs. Well, you don't want
Speaker 2: to show them this want to show them that. I guess.
Speaker 2: I guess if I'm better and I've said this time,
Speaker 2: if I'm better than you can see whatever I'm I'm
Speaker 2: gonna show you. I'm still going to try to beat
Speaker 2: your ass with whatever play you know, Jim. Jim used
Speaker 2: to coach too. I mean, I don't care if you
Speaker 2: run a double reverse. We probably have to look for it.
Speaker 2: But guess what, Jim, if you've got a better team
Speaker 2: than me, more power to you.
Speaker 15: Well, it's part of part of being a better team
Speaker 15: is doing what you do well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, over and over and over, we've seen
Speaker 2: that where teams say we run, try to stop us.
Speaker 15: Exactly exactly what. I think we're going to see some
Speaker 15: of that come first quarter on Saturday. Yeah, we're going
Speaker 15: to going to see some bruisers it in the line.
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna ask you, like we're gonna ask
Speaker 3: everybody else that calls it, how many wins this year?
Speaker 2: I already told you.
Speaker 3: Did you remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I guess I don't remember what happened.
Speaker 2: I think you were talking still about the Kansas State
Speaker 2: Utah kind of thing.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it'll be interesting if they win one of those
Speaker 15: games and it might be nine games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we feel the same way, same way,
Speaker 3: all right, Jim, pay thanks about man. I appreciate it.
Speaker 15: You're welcome, bye bye.
Speaker 3: No, he may he makes a good point, though, you know,
Speaker 3: you win with your best pitch and I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you're not going to say that for later. No,
Speaker 2: what's the point. What's the point?
Speaker 3: So what So so you know Kansas State knows you
Speaker 3: run a reverse option pass. Yeah, well they just don't
Speaker 3: know when you're gonna run it exactly exactly. I don't
Speaker 3: get and give me something like that. Yeah, they're going
Speaker 3: to be aware that that that that plays there. But
Speaker 3: how much practice time are they you vote to a
Speaker 3: play that you that they might.
Speaker 2: Run, whether it's whether it's Speedy running it or somebody else,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, because the circumstances changed from time to time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: Uh well, you know, you know, I don't coach. I
Speaker 2: just gotta write about it. But to me, it's like
Speaker 2: overthinking sometimes it is. And and you know, and coaches
Speaker 2: get kind up in that, oh yeah and they and
Speaker 2: well Chip Kelly on the line, what do you think
Speaker 2: with his little shades.
Speaker 3: And all that stuff, And who was the old coach
Speaker 3: with the with the crew cut of Asu Todd Graham,
Speaker 3: you know he hid the same thing at the curtains
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Like you just could just go
Speaker 3: out there and.
Speaker 2: Playing just try to be well.
Speaker 3: You know, I was hearing I guess this. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen it, but the Connor Stallion's Netflix thing came out,
Speaker 3: and you know, the conversation I was hearing about it
Speaker 3: was okay, So how much does sign stealing really help?
Speaker 3: How much did it really help? Or does it?
Speaker 2: And what was there?
Speaker 3: Two arguments? One was it If it didn't help, they
Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. But on the other hand, how much
Speaker 3: can you do in the twenty seconds they have, you know,
Speaker 3: to decipher their signal and be able to get a
Speaker 3: defense in. How much can that help?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Maybe it helped see one or two plays or something
Speaker 3: like that, But is it gonna you know, is it
Speaker 3: doesn't mean a touchdown in sure game? Or what?
Speaker 2: Sure? And if if I if I know what you think,
Speaker 2: if I know what I think you're gonna do? Uh,
Speaker 2: why not just kind of maybe changed the burbage a little? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And that wasn't that wasn't there they switches it up.
Speaker 2: Isn't this all about strategy and trying it out smart?
Speaker 2: The other day? I think it is, you know, in
Speaker 2: addition to trying to just to be therassed with.
Speaker 3: Look, Michigan was good last year. Yeah, they were really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did they need those things? Probably not, probably not.
Speaker 3: But on the other hand, they went and got them
Speaker 3: because maybe they thought they just kies in case. They
Speaker 3: kind of thought they needed them, but they probably didn't
Speaker 3: need need that that stuff to win those games, and
Speaker 3: now they would be in trouble for it. That's another story. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's it was great. Thanks Joe to Foyer for joining us.
Speaker 3: First half. First half of the show. We're gonna be back.
Speaker 3: Jake Fisher coming on at four fifteen. Then Erin Tauris
Speaker 3: National talk show Guy uh Talk, a podcaster from Fox Sports,
Speaker 3: is gonna be on as well, so stick around.