Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans welcome whoa switch to
season three, episode twenty of clips and the final episode
before the regular season starts. We cannot wait for that
to start. We're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Talking alogy again of the season. Sorry to interrupt. Draft,
I can't remember. The draft is what resets the new year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the draft is that resets the season.
Speaker 2: Well, the man who writes the rundowns get to the
side the season.
Speaker 1: We all agreed on this.
Speaker 2: That's rule. That's rule.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about the regular season on Monday,
but today we're talking what we liked from the preseason,
what individual stuff we liked, What good things we hope
carry over, what bad things we hope don't carry over.
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Adam Will, what are you doing today to celebrate Terrence
Man's birthday. Let's go, Terrence, Let's go.
Speaker 2: I'm cramming a bunch of work in before a long
before a long weekend, but I'll be celebrating Terrence all
weekend long? How about that class? Is that doing anything
for you?
Speaker 1: I did you know?
Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a sucker, you know. I did
get a little emotional when I saw the team singing.
He's just been there so long and it just feels
I mean, he's like one of the few homegrown guys
is still on the team. So uh yeah, I mean
I thought it was great.
Speaker 1: Adam, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Did you you can't tell you or something you can't tell?
Speaker 4: You really can't tell?
Speaker 3: You got a haircutt, I got manscaped all right.
Speaker 1: All over?
Speaker 4: Check this out?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Go to YouTube dot com for the experience clips
and dip.
Speaker 2: How do you plan to celebrate? Did you know? Did
you know before before they made the post? Do you
have this circle on your calendar.
Speaker 3: That Terrence Man's birthday? Yeah, I mean I knew it
was turned twenty eight. We were talking about it. He's
about to turn twenty eight. He's about to turn twenty eight.
It's over for him entry Yeah, in terms of pre
prime smack dab in his prime.
Speaker 4: He's there right over for the league.
Speaker 1: There we go, that's what we like to hear. Happy birthday, Terrence. Man,
Thank you for doing anything the Clippers ask of you,
sometimes to play five different positions in a week. We
appreciate that the final preseason game is over. It was
a very preseason, ass preseason game. The second half of
last night, I thought some great stuff from the Clippers
who impressed us the most over the entire preseason, and
we can probably get the main guy out of the way.
It's Jordan Miller, right. This was I don't know if
coming out party is the right term because it was
just preseason, but he looks ready to help out a
Clippers team that's gonna need the things he does. Well.
Speaker 3: Sure hope they find a spot in the rotation for him,
because if they can't figure out during a season like
this that well, some believe it's our year and all that,
and that's fine. Others a transitional type.
Speaker 2: Of year, moral majority.
Speaker 4: Fighting for the playoffs.
Speaker 3: If you can't figure out how to integrate young guys
now who are not that young and are turning twenty
five in January, when is it going to happen? Like
I think there needs to be some emergency about this.
I've been saying all preseason consistently. It looks too easy
for him throw more challenges his way. He just bodied
Keegan Murray, who's one of the better young players in
the NBA. That Sacramento team was playing everybody but Deer
and Fox like Sabonus played thirty minutes.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he's.
Speaker 3: Doing it now against real NBA competition. What else do
you need to see. I know it's difficult, there's other
guys on the roster you have to account for. It's
a numbers game, but I think there needs to be
some urgency with making sure Jordan Miller is getting consistent
time from game one. I am asking for it. I'm
not waiting for somebody. You know, injuries happened throughout the season.
KPJ could get suspended, Kawhi is not going to be
there right now. I'm saying, if this roster's fully loaded,
he still should be getting minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought that's what was like kind of perplexing
about Tylw's quote. He said that he is a guy
that he trusts, but he's like not sure where to
work him into the rotation. And it's like, buddy, I
don't that's your job. So I mean, I understand it, obviously,
there is you know, it's a little bit of a
log jam where he would play and there is some
overlapping stuff. But at the same time, I just don't know,
you gotta try some stuff this year, you know, and
it's not always going to be pretty, and it's always
it's not always going to be great. But I do think,
you know, going back to Adams and that should be
a part of the plan, that there should be an
on way uh for like for him having at least
some sort of place in the rotation, even if it's
the eleventh man. Uh, that should still be you know,
like that should be a consideration.
Speaker 1: Do we think, because like, if you look at the
ten guys, a Mirror stands out as the guy who
would probably be switched out for Jordan Miller at some point,
I think.
Speaker 3: And Kamir has been good in the preseason absolute eighteen,
not a knock on a Mirror at all, but we
know he's closer to a finished product than Jordan Miller, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he but who else in the ten man rotation.
It's like I don't know who he's bumping out. And
I don't mean this like this is I think a
testament to where Tylo is at because that five guys
at the back end of the ten man rotation. There's
not a lot of like peaks and valleys between those
guys in terms of abilities, you know what I mean. Like,
it's not like it's like a super bottom heavy or
top heavy second five. It's a lot of lateral moves.
I don't mean that in a bad way, just like.
Speaker 2: But if he wore lips. Okay, let's say he wears lips,
he's now three inches taller. He fits a clear need
in this Clippers roster, that's true.
Speaker 3: Does he ever make you feel like he's six '
five when he's attacking the paint like that? He looked
six seven six eight, and I don't believe.
Speaker 1: They're going the other way? Yeah?
Speaker 3: There, he grew lake grill spurt is a body good.
Speaker 1: But he does a thing that the Clippers need, which
is fine buckets. I felt like every time this preseason
his first shot either went in or he got a foul.
LA Clippers Film posted these stats ten free throw attempts
for one hundred possessions in the preseason, nine free throw
attempts per in the Vegas Summer League, sixty five percent
true shooting overall in the G League last season sixty
nine percent true shooting in the Showcase Cup specifically. Obviously
there's a jump at and okay, obviously there's a jump
between where those numbers were cultivated and where he would
be trying to put those numbers up this year. But
he's clearly shown as he said, he's like, I want
to show that I'm better than the G League. It's
hard like he has. And the Tylo quote was a
little flum mixing I just.
Speaker 4: From last night or from today from Joey lid.
Speaker 1: Today from joeln where he was like, I trust him,
but we'll see, don't don't know where he's gonna be.
Speaker 3: That it's not on ty Lou, then a tough decision
has to be made by the front office.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where we're at.
Speaker 2: Sorry, the full quote for context was we'll see, still
trying to figure that part out. If I put him
in the game. I do have confidence in trust in him,
So we'll see going forward.
Speaker 1: And I like, so I think this ties in. Though
you brought up yesterday on Twitter, Adam that maybe the
reason they're keeping bones is due to the incoming suspension. Well, again,
we don't know when for KPJ. Maybe that helps Jordan
Miller getting in. That's one less guy in the rotation.
I have to assume when one person is out of
the rotation, Jordan Miller, like you mentioned through injury, will
be put into that spot.
Speaker 2: But no, you haven't even talked about bones. Like in
this scenario as currently constructed, is Jordan Miller behind Bones
in the rotation like like on on or path forward
basically season?
Speaker 1: I think so it's not. I don't agree with it, but.
Speaker 3: But on a fully healthy roster, is Bones in the
ten man rotation?
Speaker 1: Right? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: So all it does if KPg gets suspended is put
him in. It doesn't put Jordan Miller in. It puts
Bones in. So that's still not enough I think to
really clear a path for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just have to wait for tye.
Speaker 3: Oh. I think the front office is going to have
to make a tough decision trade.
Speaker 1: Some people trade a mirror.
Speaker 3: I don't know Amir has been traded before. Just so
we're clear on this. Yeah, I don't want to get traded.
Speaker 4: I don't want anybody to get traded.
Speaker 3: Something except that something has to be done in order
to get a guy.
Speaker 4: Who's about to tour twenty five in January Run.
Speaker 2: Twice Traded once Moved would be a great country album,
though it's not if Amir ever wanted to do that
if he was eventually traded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to happen he had.
Speaker 2: You want him to be traded?
Speaker 1: No, I want Jordan Miller to get time. But Lot
Murray brought this up too. If Kai Jones keeps being good,
the trade deadline is gonna be interesting for the Clippers.
They got to make time for these guys who are
being good.
Speaker 3: Kai Jones is also not supposed to be part of
the ten man rotation, right, It wouldn't be if Mobama's healthy.
So it's like Mobama being hurt doesn't help Jordan Miller either,
it helps Kay Jones. The only way is a consolidation
trade or massive amounts of injuries, which we don't want.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I don't. We can never use that
on once you put that on the table.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's at the front of everyone's mind with
this team of all times.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll talk about the Kawhi stuff at the
end of the episode. And I don't know, Yeah, this
is gonna be I mean, I think we've we've found
the Clippers fan base. Uh. Gripe for the year is
play Jordan Miller Moore And I'm in that gripe right,
Like there's kind of one every year that I feel
like guys, kind of like fans kind of harp on,
it's real. This year, Jordan Miller needs time. This team's
gonna have difficulty scoring.
Speaker 3: This is like serious though, it's not even about this
year and how much he can help them score more,
which I think he can.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 3: It's their best young prospect since Shay and he's about
to turn twenty five. You have to play him now.
There is no more time to wait. There has to
be urgency about this.
Speaker 1: And you're saying have that. You're saying you want him
to play day one. You want the consolidation, yes, d
you want the consolidation trade between now and Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Or put him in front of somebody make a tough
decision there.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that. I think that that would That
sounds like a Tyloo thing to do.
Speaker 3: Kobe Brown is on a standard contract, Jordan is on
a two way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: That doesn't look great right now, right Jordan Miller is
the guy who has proven much more than Kobe Brown,
whose play has been somewhat up and down. Jordan Miller
has been up, trending upwards the entire time. Dominates, G League, dominates,
Summer League, very good in the preseason, and no dip threes.
Got one of those last night. I don't even know
if he needs threes to be effective with how good
he is getting downhill.
Speaker 1: And getting fouls he's learned from Norm.
Speaker 4: I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I woke up today and I felt like I needed
to bang the table and be.
Speaker 4: Like, Jordan Miller must play. What are we doing?
Speaker 3: It's just come on, there's an excuse for not playing
young guys before this year. There is a legitimate excuse
for that. And granted, they still gave Kobe Brown that
ten game run last season and that was awesome to see,
but we haven't been able to develop young guys and
find out what they can do. If Brandon Boston turned
out to be something this season, would anyone here be
that shocked, like totally shocked. It would probably be, oh, well, yeah,
he never got you know, real time with the Clippers.
Speaker 4: He got a few minutes here and there.
Speaker 1: That's what you would all say.
Speaker 3: That can't happen anymore, not on a team that does
it look like they're winning it all this year.
Speaker 4: Maybe it is their year.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't look like they're a true contender at
the moment.
Speaker 4: With Kawai still out, I mean they're not.
Speaker 1: And I we all agree with you that he needs
to play. We just have to wait.
Speaker 4: It's not an easy solution.
Speaker 1: It's not It's not another thing in the preseason that
impressed us. I like what Tyler was saying about Zubots
needs to try and be in the dpoy conversation. I
also think that hints at how much responsibility he's going
to have this year. He always has had a lot
of responsibility, but I think with the backcourt that we're starting,
I know that Norm can lock in, but I think
Zoo's going to be asked to do even more on
defense this year. I think he's capable. But I like
hearing Tyler publicly gives you that kind of shit out
type thing.
Speaker 2: Does that specific thing, because we already know what Zoo
is defensively, give you any concerns about how they intend
to use him offensively or the amount of touches he's
gonna get. Because sort of all off season we've talked
about how do you make up for this twenty four
this gaping twenty four points that's now off of the roster.
And I think it's like, I mean, one answer or
one portion of the equation comes down to with Viatsa
Zubots and it still seems like he's not really priority there.
Albeit not the greatest of preseason showings for him, but
not awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played in the summer too. I'm like, eh,
like he's a guy where it's like whatever, that is
a great question though, And now I do have that fear.
I mean that I didn't really think about that, but that's.
Speaker 2: Just I mean, it's just evident that he's still only
thought about on one side of the ball, which is great.
It is, it really is. This team needs easy buckets
and they you know, they need other things to lean
on offensively, and I'm hoping that we're not. We're not
completely you know, turning a blind eye to that.
Speaker 1: And it goes into Adamson too about like his stamina right,
Like it's hard to play defense as a center, for sure,
especially if your guard multiple positions, so that could also
jeopardize some of the offensive touches.
Speaker 3: I do worry about that. His cardio it's never looked great,
and we all keep crying about him not playing enough minutes.
But he has to do his part and actually be able.
And now you can make the argument zoo bots at
seventy percent out there is still better than your backup option.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, so there is. He needs to play
thirty minutes a night. He does.
Speaker 3: But I'll say this, as much as he talked about
the defense was Zoo last night, pretty much every other
games post game so far in the preseason, I think
Coach lou has mentioned them getting either not getting him
involved enough or not getting into his spots or deep
enough in the post, or Zoo was moving too quickly
or rushing shots.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: They have talked about his offense a lot and made
the point that he's going to have to do more
on that, and like, I think it's I think they know.
Speaker 2: I hope do they know?
Speaker 1: I hope they do too. Well. See, that's the thing.
We don't know what's going to be the Like Will
doesn't know what the catalyst of our year is going
to be. Right, maybe it's Jordan Miller averaging thirty five.
Speaker 2: Tell you our year. It's a feeling, you know, it's
not it's not up here, it's in here, Okay.
Speaker 1: Keeping with the center trend, I was pleasantly surprised by
kay Jones getting better every game. I'm not saying that
he's or whatever were you.
Speaker 3: Saying, Anna, not last night he did not get better.
Speaker 1: He was a little all over the place last night.
Speaker 3: So the botus gave him more. He found him multiple times.
Even alex Linn was too much more.
Speaker 1: But it's exhead, so I was not surprised by that
at all. He did stuff the statuet. Other than the
bad defense, he did a whole bunch of stuff. If
he can run the floor, dunk the ball, and protect
the rimok, I'm with it. That's what we got, and
it looks better than what I thought it would look
like when the preseason started.
Speaker 2: Speaking of looking good, I don't know if you noticed
this at him. I was looking at kai Jones's stubble pattern.
I think he'd go grow a great handlebar mustache. Hackler,
no hackle.
Speaker 1: Kai Jones with the handlebar, people be concerned about him again.
Speaker 2: I think it looked.
Speaker 3: Great like the bad guy in Raising Arizona's just straight
up motorcycle handlebar mustache. Sure even more intimidating than his hops.
He has the handlebar mustache.
Speaker 1: That two footed dunk was crazy yesterday. That the and one, Yeah,
the one he got in trends where he like got them. Yeah,
that was nuts.
Speaker 3: But did I hear Brian Seeman to use sky Jones
last night after he did that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did use sky Jones.
Speaker 3: We'll be talking about that. I I pat died that
I called him sky Jones right before he had the
game winning dunk against uh in Seattle against Portland.
Speaker 2: You're gonna charge This is, of course the portion of
the show where we uh we were. You are copyright claimed.
Speaker 1: You're gonna vena request. You're gonna vena request, Brians, I
at least want to shout out okay, but we can't
be like again, I'm trying to go into the season positively.
I liked I like the kai Jones preseason. Yeah, I'm
sad for Obama. I would say I am out of
gutted is the right word. But he looks bummed on
the bench. He wants to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just I just hope we're not
getting into a situation like last year where we have
a backup center rushing back because they see their spot
as kind of being jeopardized and writing about the longevity
of that because I still am interested to see how
Tai could could integrate Mobimba. I don't really understand the fit,
like like you know, like in actuality, but I'm interested
to see, like what what that would look like, you know,
because we you know, we just didn't get a glimpse.
So I'm curious and having another like legitimate seven Twitter
I think is I think it's always good, especially for
how small this team is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Guy's got the spot.
Speaker 4: Ky Jones fans were right, guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not We need to track him like Gianna's.
Speaker 4: He's coming for Zoo next.
Speaker 1: But yeah, limited minutes. I think he's going into the season.
He's going to the season as best as he possibly could,
which is good.
Speaker 2: Is that deal done? When's that dealing with? Then?
Speaker 1: I put this on Twitter. The deadline has to be
like this weekend the games starting.
Speaker 2: You at least get a weekends up, don't you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, it's gotta be soon, Adam, you
know more about this stuff to.
Speaker 4: Me probably right after we're done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you'll go live, Amir. I saw something last night.
That was cool. I feel like Amir is a great
in between vet for these young guys. We talked about
how he's a finished product and he knows how to
do his job in terms of me basketball. He's a
good guy to be out there and teach these young
guys who Jordan Miller also seems like someone who is
very well aware of his situation and a like, you know,
I got to prove that I can. I gotta take
these minutes type thing. So I like Amir kind of
being this weird sage piece like vet for the young
guys or guys just need to the Clipper system in general.
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it seem like I think
today Jordan Miller is better than a mere coffee of course,
but there's a real possibility by the end of this season,
if you let him play consistently, he could be And
there's a real possibility Emir can be. Amir is a
guy you want for a team contending with the championship.
Right now, the Clippers might not be that, So therefore
you should probably be developing the guy with the higher
ceiling to see where it goes over the guy that
would be more useful in a situation where you're in
the inner circle of contenders, you know what.
Speaker 1: And they're not contenders. But you know what, coach I
think would love to have a mirror on his team.
Greg Popovich, Oh yeah, he seems like a good pop guy. Well,
where are you at on a mirror? Coffee?
Speaker 2: Trade him now?
Speaker 1: He's so cheap. That's what's hard too. It's yeah, No, I.
Speaker 2: Love a mirror. It's curious to see.
Speaker 3: If you had to trade a mirror to get rid
of PJ.
Speaker 4: I would be upset, was you not? I mean, depending
on what they get back.
Speaker 3: But if if it's just like an adult dive thing
to get rid of PJ, that.
Speaker 2: Mean he was going to That'd be a brutal end
to another guy that you know.
Speaker 1: For him, good for you get out of it.
Speaker 3: He wait, that means gets to go to kids? No, no, sorry, well.
Speaker 1: No, I know what you're saying. It'd be a horrible
end to a guy who's given everything for the He's
been with the team for so long. But it's good
that Bones done a mere three man lineup last night.
Was has some interesting potential.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about how once again when Bones Highland
gets a green light in real minutes. He looks good
and gives effort on the defensive end. He had to
steals in the first couple of minutes and got him
to Terrence Man.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 3: He's always been better defensively than advertised from Denver Nuggets
fans when he plays real minutes for the Clippers.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's great, but he.
Speaker 3: Gives effort and he can get steals, and he's got
you know, some wingspans to him on the perimeter.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just love seeing Bones actually getting a shot again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he showed out for sure. Defensively, he did have
the green light. Shooting wise, that didn't go so well,
but that's fine.
Speaker 4: Was it four for thirteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was one for seven from three. But I
did like what you were saying, Like, I think the
Bones thing. They're keeping him because like they don't know
what's happening with KPg situation. Who also had a good
preseason for a guy who hadn't played basketball so long
and showed some juice of what the Clippers will need
at some point. So I think you're I think you're
correct about that.
Speaker 4: KPJ fans were right.
Speaker 1: Damn man, what he'll bring that over to this show,
keep it over on Clippers Talk.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean they deserve a little bit of credit
for KPJ cod the difference.
Speaker 1: Between being right and saying, oh, maybe they were onto something. Okay,
because being right as Kevin Porter Junior plays thirty minutes
a game for this.
Speaker 4: Team, that's fair.
Speaker 1: That's stilly fair.
Speaker 4: It's still preseason, but.
Speaker 3: Both of them have showed some promise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, say that, and then anyone else individually. We're gonna
talk team stuff for the next segment. But will anyone
else individually pop to you this preseason?
Speaker 2: I like, unexpectedly no, but it was interesting to get
the first look of the team with James Harden at
the helm. And yeah, not the most efficient, but it
looked very much like preseason James Harden.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Adam, any other individuals you would like to
speak about who perhaps have insane fandoms that you want
to shut out.
Speaker 3: Elijah Harkless, hive, big.
Speaker 1: Ups, heartless, crazy, he.
Speaker 3: Brought it last night, you guys go heartless. Last season
in the G League with that crazy defense he plays.
He actually shot forty four percent from three in the
G League last season. Oh that's better than Kobe that's
better than the Jordan Miller and we're talking over twenty
games like it was kind of shit.
Speaker 4: I don't this is somebody I don't know.
Speaker 3: You should also mention Alonus Williams was really good in
the preseason.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's yeah. I hope he's he's sticking around. He
seems like he seems like a guy who would learn
from him here in a good way. Just specifically last night,
Braxton Key love watching that guy go three for three.
That was that was really fun. I was like, hell, yeah, dude,
go for it. The three he hit was nasty. All right,
coming up, we're gonna talk team stuff offensively and defensively.
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Speaker 2: What all right? We are back in it's the conclusion
of the preseason, and I want to know how you
guys are feeling better worse? H Adam, what are what
are you feeling better about? After this? This Los Angeles
Clippers preseason.
Speaker 3: So I think it reinforced some things defensively and principles
from Jeff Van Gundy that make you think and believe
that they truly can be and should be a top
ten defense this season.
Speaker 4: If the twenty one to twenty two.
Speaker 3: Team that had less talent on that end could be
eighth defensively, there's no reason this team can't do the
same thing, even if Kawhi doesn't play a game. He
didn't play a game in the twenty one to twenty
two season for the Clippers. Paul George only played thirty one. Now,
James Harden playing more doesn't necessarily help you on the
defensive end, but we talked about earlier with the beats
of zoobots and him having to do more defensively, I mean,
maybe they have more point of attack defenders, like they
should be much better at keeping the ball in front
of them. They should be much better than last season
in that area. And there was a real effort on
that end, no matter who was a vail and playing
night tonight in the preseason that I think and Coach
Lou talked about, you know, he dumped it down in
Honolulu to our team this year, the identity is playing hard.
And obviously there's schemes, there's all kinds of stuff that's
included in there. But the point is they're gonna play hard,
they're gonna scrap, and that's what the fans want to see.
Is what coach brought up after their win Monday night
into it home. That's what the fans want to see.
Maximize your talent, go out there and play above your
heads at times and take down some giants and be
a defensive team that I don't know, that's fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the stocks right, the steals
and blocks for the Clippers in the preseason, they were
second in steals and they were fifth in blocks.
Speaker 3: So I went through it last night and because we've
talked a lot about preseason defensive rating upon a field
goal percentage and it's fun. And they finished, or at
least after last night, they were number one in both
of those. And I think there's some more season games
today and then it's over, so the numbers will change.
But I went to last year's preseason to see who
was number one, yeah, and to see who were the
top ten defense defenses in the preseason and how that
lined up with the regular season, and it was kind
of all over the place. Like the Toronto Raptors were
number one in the preseason last year and I think
they finished bottom ten. Yeah, there wasn't a lot you
could say, oh this, Yeah, there were a couple that
were close that, like, okay, there were fifth in the preseason,
they ended fourth in the regular season. There were like
a couple, but it was just a mess overall.
Speaker 4: There were also just as many that.
Speaker 3: Were good in the preseason are really bad in the
regular season.
Speaker 1: But I do I think that it does thin what
you were saying where guys were trying, like specifically with
steals and blocks. It's like, all right, I guess the
efforts there kind of top to bottom on a per
game basis, because totals are you know. But another point
from La Clippers film, who had a great just great
day on Twitter, you mentioned the defensive chops. If you
said the Clippers have just enough athleticism and defensive chops
between Zoo Derek Jones Junior at point of attack man
guarding up Chris Dunn Kawhi if alive, but toom that
they should find themselves in quite a bit of coin
flip games and in general a far more competitive team
than a team with an over under of thirty seven
and a half wains, which I think is true. Like
the amount of individual cable defenders. Again, the Clippers have
been the king of on paper, but on paper they
got a solid, annoying ass defensive team to play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's more than just the collective hole
playing really hard. They actually have talented guys individually defensively
that on paper have proven it in the NBA at
this level. So there's real reasons to think that it
is going to carry over for them. Is the regular
season not to be in the number one defense, but
to being a top ten defense, it has to be.
Speaker 1: Will what are you excited for? Offensively?
Speaker 5: I mean I teased it last segment, but uh, just
seeing James, seeing James Harden run the show, I think
there's a lot of interesting sort of two man pick
and roll things you can get into there.
Speaker 2: And I'm really interested to see too, which we've we've
talked about a little bit before on the show, is
like how they find ways to have him not have
to necessarily carry the ball up all the time to
initiate the offense, whether that's Derek Jones Junior, or getting
the ball somewhere else and just sort of initiating side,
like initiating side, pick and roll, have him working off
ball a little bit. I'm curious to see how he looks.
I mean, he's gonna look great if if Norm is
actually passing, but I'm curious to see how he looks
off ball when Norm has the ball in his hands.
It's like you said, it's the the good problem, the
good and bad problem for the Clipper team this year
is like how many questions there are? And I think
that Harden is like the most stable sort of offensive
system that they've had, regardless of whether or not Kawhi
or Paul George are on the floor. You know what
I mean. This is like this is the guy, he's
kind of he's running the show, and there are just
there are a lot of possibilities and as we talked
about throughout the preseason, I mean just youth plus athleticism
around Harden. I think he's a great combo for where
he's at right now in his Game two and it
is an exciting new look for this Clippers team.
Speaker 1: And I like that they established throughout the whole preseason
right Adam you talked about like, oh, they established we're
gonna work hard. They've established this is the James Harden offense,
Like this is his offensive system to run, which there's
a lot worse guys to be running it. He averaged
a whole bunch of assistant in the preseason. A lot
of turnovers too, but that's what the preseason was for.
But I like that we've talked about offensive identity before.
With this team, it's it's James Harden. They're kind of
going twenty.
Speaker 2: Nine opponent turnovers a game every game.
Speaker 1: But I just like that they've they've hashed that out.
This is Harden's team. He's in the best shape of
his life, which is the first time they've ever said
that about an athlete. Much like much like Adam, But
it's gonna be good. Harden's gonna make I hope they
don't grind him down too much because we do need
to rely on him a whole lot, and he played
a lot last year.
Speaker 2: If you can run, though, like Harden is gonna find you,
you know what I mean, Like, if you can like
you've got and we have those guys now, like guys
who are you know, like physically capable and of the
age to be doing doing that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: That's what's exciting.
Speaker 3: You have so many runouts, advanced passes, hit ahead passes.
Speaker 4: Whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 3: Uh, I like the mortar fire passes where it's just
over the top.
Speaker 4: Of the defense.
Speaker 3: Harden finds you and we're gonna see a lot of
athletic plays. Yeah, a lot of dunks because you've got
Terrence Man, you got Derek Jones Junior in the starting lineup,
Norman Powk get out and transition, and Cherry Pick a
little bit too off the bench, and Mirr coffee kp
J Bones Highland. He found him for one of those
long passes. I think in the game in Seattle, like,
there's so many guys like Kai most of the most
importantly funny is I don't think so far in the
preseason that James and Kai have been able to connect.
I think on two opportunities on an oop it actually
ironically didn't happen where Kai missed playing. They had a
little communication afterwards where Hard got on them a little bit.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 3: You would you would have think you would think that
if any guy is lobbing it to Kai, it's James Harden.
Speaker 4: It'll manifest in.
Speaker 3: The regular season. But it's just funny how those two.
Everybody else is connected with Kai, but James Harden.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be That'll be a large oop, is my
is my prediction for when that connection finally happens. What
do you maybe what do you maybe feel not so
good about heading into the regular season? Adam, We'll start
with you.
Speaker 4: Is this the COI segment?
Speaker 1: Uh? No, that's the that's actually what we feel neutral
about because that, I guess we can talk about.
Speaker 2: Should we talk about that? Hecause everybody was really really
upset about the you know about the about the new designation.
How is it any different from what we've been told
for the last six months.
Speaker 1: He's he's been in definite.
Speaker 2: He's been in definite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was crazy, especially because the article is not
bringing anything new. All it does is quote stuff for
Media Day and the Lawrence Frank coach Lou presser of
the week before. It's like, this is nothing new at all.
This is called an educated guest. He hasn't practiced yet,
so how is he going to be playing next week?
Speaker 2: And I understand, obviously I understand with fans and like
see and ticket holders like being frustrated at not knowing,
but like basically, when they're telling you there's no change
in status, that means the timeline to return is in death. Yes, yeah,
you know, like it's we haven't been told anything other
than that this entire time. So I don't like maybe
not being forthright with the procedure. I do think that
that kind of stuff is a little bits.
Speaker 3: And Joey Lynn asked a beautiful question about that to
Coach Lou the first question last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 2: And again the Clippers, though, aren't the only team that
does that, you know, so.
Speaker 1: Well, we just happened to have the guy who's hurt
the most, which sucks.
Speaker 3: But we did hear that there was a setback? Yeah,
I mean law posted from the Athletic earlier the day
that there's no setback. There hasn't been a setback. Well,
apparently he's talking about since training camp or since September.
But then Joey Lynn, the first question of Coach Lou
last night was about what was happening with Team USA,
and while there wasn't a setback during training camp with
Team USA, apparently right afterwards there was a setback, and
that's likely what has scared them into being more cautious
now because they already had one back in what would
that be July, yes, late June. Yeah, I think it
was significant. The definite thing was not the step setback.
Clarification actually makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like with the timeline thing, at this point,
I'm just like me personally, I'm like, I don't give
a shit about the timeline. He's out definitely, I don't
know when. And the Olympics thing is also I think
there's an aspect of you know, the team can't tell
you to not play in the Olympics, right, like they
can do some weird thing like designate you was injured,
but Kawi wanted to get a gold medal, Like it's
hard for a team relationship wise, you'd be like, no,
you can't do that. Yeah, which I'm just saying that
plays into the weirdness factor, like why was he even there?
It's like, well, the team doesn't have to give you permission,
so like.
Speaker 3: But yeah, team encourages their guy once they're once they
want to do it, every team gets behind him.
Speaker 4: This is great, this is awesome.
Speaker 3: Joe El Embiid's going to play let's get behind him
six fans right.
Speaker 1: Like last chance to win a gold medal. Two. But yeah,
I mean if you thought he was gonna play opening night,
I just.
Speaker 3: Don't, guys, wait to see if he practices first. When
he practices, when that is announced, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's freak out. I also remember, uh it made
me remember Adam Urina's live stream when the when the
soreness first got announced and we went on and we
were just we were freaking out, rightfully, so rightfully, so
I wish it wasn't rightfully.
Speaker 3: Everyone then who was saying stuff like, guys, they're just
a little managing him to get him ready for the playoffs.
This is all a rouge so he can have a
long postseason run. He'll be ready to go Game one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, thanks.
Speaker 1: All right, what did we actually if possible?
Speaker 2: It was a ruse and then there was a setback?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, wait, give me give me the gant chart
for where the ruse timeline starts. And then the setback
comes in. I need to see the time stamps. All right,
we got talk about ten minutes left. What did we
not like in the preseason that we hope doesn't carry
over my big bugaboo field goal attempts. I don't want
us to be losing field goal attempts every game, and
it felt like we were doing that except for the
last preseason game. Fun fact, I know we're talking about
preseason stats. This is a fun preseason stat that does
has nothing to do with the regular season. I just
thought it was funny the Breakers had more field goal
attempts than the Clippers in the preseason, which made me laugh.
But we're gonna losing. The possession battle is something that
I think is going to contribute to a lot of
Clippers losses, just like it did last year.
Speaker 3: Some of that could be what was their free throw
versus free throw against in the preseason attempts?
Speaker 1: Let me pull it up.
Speaker 3: We need an because obviously offensive rebounds are concerned. The
rebounding attributes to that or contributes because that's one way
to lose the possession battle. Turnovers contribute to that. But overall,
even though the Clippers, outside of one game, turned it
over twenty times per game, it felt like every game,
including one where they got twenty nine turnovers Monday Night
from Dallas, they were winning the turnover battle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I guess field goal attempts also just
come into offensive system too. That's where the transition buckets
will help, right, is getting those quick buckets for the Clippers.
But turn the battle over isn't going to help that.
I cannot find the I guess I can look at
personal fouls per game. They were one of the better
fouling teams. They only they were top, There were sixth or.
Speaker 4: Twenty out the hell out everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just backing out of.
Speaker 4: Physical defense.
Speaker 1: They were. Yeah, they were pretty solid at not fouling people.
They had the sixth fewest fouls per game in the preseason,
which for a team that was putting a preference on
steals and blocks, which are physical things. I think that's
a nice correlation to see.
Speaker 3: But that also means the opposition is getting up more
attempts because they're not at the free throw line. And
if it goes the other way, if the Clippers were
getting to the free throw line more, they're not getting
as many shot attempts up.
Speaker 1: The Clippers were getting to the free throw line, they were,
They were ninth in free throw attempts per game.
Speaker 4: All right, they got a rebound better, Oh.
Speaker 1: They got a rebound better the rebounding is like, that's
a big Terrence Man thing. That's a big Derek Jones
junior thing.
Speaker 3: That's Norman Powell and the starting lineup. Something Will has
brought up, like the size issue is going to be
there regardless if Norman is playing better defense overall, we
think he will, but there's still a size issue there
when it comes to the boards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kay's gonna have to grab boards too. Hell yeah
he didn't.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not likes every night hopefully.
Speaker 4: Yeah four times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those Pacific Division matchups, those are always heat. Will. Yeah, well,
this is the most important game. I circle every Pacific
Division I say, this is my finals. I yeah, I
gotta put in We're going to Vegas this weekend. I
got to put a huge bet down on the Clippers
winning the Pacific Division. Will be the only guy in
Vegas putting that thing down.
Speaker 4: Get great odds.
Speaker 3: Don't they have him as last.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, something like that. So I'll see you guys
at the bank and about every many months until the
season's over. Well, anything negative that you think is going
to carry over to the end of the season. Before
we let these Clippers fans enjoy their weekend.
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked a little bit about the size issues.
I mean that that's something that's still TBD. Can they
get younger going? Can they get younger going to the season.
That's something I'd like to change.
Speaker 4: Jordan Miller.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, more Jordan Miller.
Speaker 2: I suppose more.
Speaker 1: Jordan Miller's great. Hopefully the team doesn't look horrible when
Harden's off the court.
Speaker 3: And yeah, did you guys hear his post game last night?
Is Jordan Miller great on the court?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: He gave some of the most articulate, just high level answers.
I couldn't believe some of the stuff he was saying.
Speaker 1: It was so mature, That's what I was saying. He's
a sponge. He's aware of his spot.
Speaker 3: Like it's for talking about how he's frustrated. That was
the best way ever to do that. Yeah, the way
he handled it.
Speaker 1: I don't think he learned that from PJ. Tucker would be.
Speaker 2: I don't want to carry over from the preseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, PJ Tucker as a whole. All right, we are
going to be back on Monday with a preview of
Game one against the Suns. We should all be at
that game, which will be very fun first regul season,
give it into it, domb the wall is going to
be crazy. If you see Will or I in Las Vegas,
say hey, if you see us, If you see us
doing something stupid, you did not see us. Well, where
can these people shout from the rooftops that they listen
to our podcast? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah you can. You can tell your friends or shout
at whomever to listen to this podcast anybody anywhere anywhere
you get your podcasts if you happen to listen. I
think I misquoted this on the other thing, you if
you haven't listened on Spotify, you can now leave comments
on a per episode basis, which I just noticed on
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Speaker 1: Very true, Adam. One positive thing to send these Clippers
fans out.
Speaker 3: Brian Seeman used my nickname for Kai Jones Sky Jones,
and it's the perfect nickname.
Speaker 2: I love that this segment has just become Adam's personal validation.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get the law off this involved, dude.
Speaker 4: No, I've honored uh.
Speaker 3: I think the majority of Clippers fans from what I've
seen and even us here after preseason where they went
four and one and the only reason they lost a
game is because there was a game winner in Honolu
by Golden State at the last second, I think most
people are more optimistic coming out of preseason, even.
Speaker 4: With the Kawhi news.
Speaker 1: I would agree that was.
Speaker 3: Not easy for this to you to be able to
pull off.
Speaker 1: You know what, It's almost like the preseason is a
is a much more longer version of that one episode
we did a couple of weeks ago where through forty
five minutes we went from this team sucks to oh no,
we got it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to be our year,
but it was our preseason.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 1: Will knows it's going to be our year, so we'll see.
It's the baut this year. Will decide if Adam knows
the true fate of the team or if Will knows
the truth fate of the team.
Speaker 4: Where are you, Chuck.
Speaker 2: Play Adam's firm call on the fate of this team.
Speaker 4: I don't even have one.
Speaker 1: I've said playing team.
Speaker 3: Played Jordan Miller is my firm call.
Speaker 1: That's fair. I've said high playing team and I'm sticking
by it.
Speaker 2: On cowards, riding the line of cowards.
Speaker 1: I planted my flag very high on the play in.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what will has us starting too, but
we end up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: He has a tenth.
Speaker 5: All right, that about brainiest championship ever won, the greatest championship.
Speaker 1: Start engraving the names on the LARRYO. B right now,
mister Silver. We will be back for y'all on Monday,
and as always, let's go clips.