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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans welcome whoa switch to

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season three, episode twenty of clips and the final episode

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before the regular season starts. We cannot wait for that

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to start. We're gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Talking alogy again of the season. Sorry to interrupt. Draft,

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I can't remember. The draft is what resets the new year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the draft is that resets the season.

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Speaker 2: Well, the man who writes the rundowns get to the

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side the season.

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Speaker 1: We all agreed on this.

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Speaker 2: That's rule. That's rule.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about the regular season on Monday,

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but today we're talking what we liked from the preseason,

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what individual stuff we liked, What good things we hope

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carry over, what bad things we hope don't carry over.

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dot com. Slash at Clippers podcast is the full experience

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before we get into all of the great Clippers stuff.

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Adam Will, what are you doing today to celebrate Terrence

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Man's birthday. Let's go, Terrence, Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I'm cramming a bunch of work in before a long

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before a long weekend, but I'll be celebrating Terrence all

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weekend long? How about that class? Is that doing anything

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for you?

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Speaker 1: I did you know?

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a sucker, you know. I did

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get a little emotional when I saw the team singing.

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He's just been there so long and it just feels

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I mean, he's like one of the few homegrown guys

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is still on the team. So uh yeah, I mean

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I thought it was great.

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Speaker 1: Adam, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Did you you can't tell you or something you can't tell?

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Speaker 4: You really can't tell?

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Speaker 3: You got a haircutt, I got manscaped all right.

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Speaker 1: All over?

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Speaker 4: Check this out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Go to YouTube dot com for the experience clips

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and dip.

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Speaker 2: How do you plan to celebrate? Did you know? Did

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you know before before they made the post? Do you

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have this circle on your calendar.

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Speaker 3: That Terrence Man's birthday? Yeah, I mean I knew it

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was turned twenty eight. We were talking about it. He's

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about to turn twenty eight. He's about to turn twenty eight.

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It's over for him entry Yeah, in terms of pre

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prime smack dab in his prime.

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Speaker 4: He's there right over for the league.

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Speaker 1: There we go, that's what we like to hear. Happy birthday, Terrence. Man,

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Thank you for doing anything the Clippers ask of you,

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sometimes to play five different positions in a week. We

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appreciate that the final preseason game is over. It was

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a very preseason, ass preseason game. The second half of

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last night, I thought some great stuff from the Clippers

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who impressed us the most over the entire preseason, and

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we can probably get the main guy out of the way.

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It's Jordan Miller, right. This was I don't know if

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coming out party is the right term because it was

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just preseason, but he looks ready to help out a

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Clippers team that's gonna need the things he does. Well.

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Speaker 3: Sure hope they find a spot in the rotation for him,

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because if they can't figure out during a season like

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this that well, some believe it's our year and all that,

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and that's fine. Others a transitional type.

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Speaker 2: Of year, moral majority.

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Speaker 4: Fighting for the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: If you can't figure out how to integrate young guys

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now who are not that young and are turning twenty

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five in January, when is it going to happen? Like

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I think there needs to be some emergency about this.

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I've been saying all preseason consistently. It looks too easy

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for him throw more challenges his way. He just bodied

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Keegan Murray, who's one of the better young players in

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the NBA. That Sacramento team was playing everybody but Deer

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and Fox like Sabonus played thirty minutes.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he's.

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Speaker 3: Doing it now against real NBA competition. What else do

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you need to see. I know it's difficult, there's other

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guys on the roster you have to account for. It's

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a numbers game, but I think there needs to be

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some urgency with making sure Jordan Miller is getting consistent

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time from game one. I am asking for it. I'm

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not waiting for somebody. You know, injuries happened throughout the season.

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KPJ could get suspended, Kawhi is not going to be

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there right now. I'm saying, if this roster's fully loaded,

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he still should be getting minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought that's what was like kind of perplexing

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that he trusts, but he's like not sure where to

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work him into the rotation. And it's like, buddy, I

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don't that's your job. So I mean, I understand it, obviously,

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there is you know, it's a little bit of a

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log jam where he would play and there is some

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overlapping stuff. But at the same time, I just don't know,

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it's not always going to be pretty, and it's always

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you know, going back to Adams and that should be

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on way uh for like for him having at least

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some sort of place in the rotation, even if it's

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the eleventh man. Uh, that should still be you know,

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like that should be a consideration.

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Speaker 1: Do we think, because like, if you look at the

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ten guys, a Mirror stands out as the guy who

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would probably be switched out for Jordan Miller at some point,

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Speaker 3: And Kamir has been good in the preseason absolute eighteen,

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not a knock on a Mirror at all, but we

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know he's closer to a finished product than Jordan Miller, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he but who else in the ten man rotation.

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It's like I don't know who he's bumping out. And

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testament to where Tylo is at because that five guys

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at the back end of the ten man rotation. There's

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not a lot of like peaks and valleys between those

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guys in terms of abilities, you know what I mean. Like,

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it's not like it's like a super bottom heavy or

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top heavy second five. It's a lot of lateral moves.

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I don't mean that in a bad way, just like.

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Speaker 2: But if he wore lips. Okay, let's say he wears lips,

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he's now three inches taller. He fits a clear need

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in this Clippers roster, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Does he ever make you feel like he's six '

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five when he's attacking the paint like that? He looked

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six seven six eight, and I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: They're going the other way? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: There, he grew lake grill spurt is a body good.

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Speaker 1: But he does a thing that the Clippers need, which

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is fine buckets. I felt like every time this preseason

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his first shot either went in or he got a foul.

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LA Clippers Film posted these stats ten free throw attempts

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for one hundred possessions in the preseason, nine free throw

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attempts per in the Vegas Summer League, sixty five percent

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true shooting overall in the G League last season sixty

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nine percent true shooting in the Showcase Cup specifically. Obviously

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there's a jump at and okay, obviously there's a jump

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between where those numbers were cultivated and where he would

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be trying to put those numbers up this year. But

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he's clearly shown as he said, he's like, I want

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to show that I'm better than the G League. It's

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hard like he has. And the Tylo quote was a

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little flum mixing I just.

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Speaker 4: From last night or from today from Joey lid.

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Speaker 1: Today from joeln where he was like, I trust him,

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but we'll see, don't don't know where he's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: That it's not on ty Lou, then a tough decision

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has to be made by the front office.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, the full quote for context was we'll see, still

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trying to figure that part out. If I put him

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in the game. I do have confidence in trust in him,

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Speaker 1: And I like, so I think this ties in. Though

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you brought up yesterday on Twitter, Adam that maybe the

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reason they're keeping bones is due to the incoming suspension. Well, again,

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we don't know when for KPJ. Maybe that helps Jordan

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Miller getting in. That's one less guy in the rotation.

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I have to assume when one person is out of

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the rotation, Jordan Miller, like you mentioned through injury, will

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be put into that spot.

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Speaker 2: But no, you haven't even talked about bones. Like in

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this scenario as currently constructed, is Jordan Miller behind Bones

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in the rotation like like on on or path forward

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basically season?

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Speaker 1: I think so it's not. I don't agree with it, but.

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Speaker 3: But on a fully healthy roster, is Bones in the

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ten man rotation?

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Speaker 1: Right? I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: So all it does if KPg gets suspended is put

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him in. It doesn't put Jordan Miller in. It puts

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Bones in. So that's still not enough I think to

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really clear a path for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just have to wait for tye.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I think the front office is going to have

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to make a tough decision trade.

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Speaker 1: Some people trade a mirror.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Amir has been traded before. Just so

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we're clear on this. Yeah, I don't want to get traded.

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Speaker 4: I don't want anybody to get traded.

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Speaker 3: Something except that something has to be done in order

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to get a guy.

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Speaker 4: Who's about to tour twenty five in January Run.

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Speaker 2: Twice Traded once Moved would be a great country album,

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though it's not if Amir ever wanted to do that

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if he was eventually traded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to happen he had.

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Speaker 2: You want him to be traded?

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Speaker 1: No, I want Jordan Miller to get time. But Lot

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Murray brought this up too. If Kai Jones keeps being good,

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the trade deadline is gonna be interesting for the Clippers.

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They got to make time for these guys who are

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being good.

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Speaker 3: Kai Jones is also not supposed to be part of

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the ten man rotation, right, It wouldn't be if Mobama's healthy.

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it helps Kay Jones. The only way is a consolidation

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trade or massive amounts of injuries, which we don't want.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I don't. We can never use that

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on once you put that on the table.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's at the front of everyone's mind with

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this team of all times.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll talk about the Kawhi stuff at the

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end of the episode. And I don't know, Yeah, this

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is gonna be I mean, I think we've we've found

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the Clippers fan base. Uh. Gripe for the year is

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play Jordan Miller Moore And I'm in that gripe right,

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Like there's kind of one every year that I feel

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like guys, kind of like fans kind of harp on,

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it's real. This year, Jordan Miller needs time. This team's

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gonna have difficulty scoring.

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Speaker 3: This is like serious though, it's not even about this

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year and how much he can help them score more,

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which I think he can.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 3: It's their best young prospect since Shay and he's about

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to turn twenty five. You have to play him now.

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There is no more time to wait. There has to

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be urgency about this.

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Speaker 1: And you're saying have that. You're saying you want him

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to play day one. You want the consolidation, yes, d

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you want the consolidation trade between now and Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Or put him in front of somebody make a tough

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Speaker 1: Oh I like that. I think that that would That

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sounds like a Tyloo thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Kobe Brown is on a standard contract, Jordan is on

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a two way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't look great right now, right Jordan Miller is

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the guy who has proven much more than Kobe Brown,

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whose play has been somewhat up and down. Jordan Miller

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has been up, trending upwards the entire time. Dominates, G League, dominates,

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if he needs threes to be effective with how good

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he is getting downhill.

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Speaker 1: And getting fouls he's learned from Norm.

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I woke up today and I felt like I needed

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to bang the table and be.

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Speaker 4: Like, Jordan Miller must play. What are we doing?

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Speaker 3: It's just come on, there's an excuse for not playing

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young guys before this year. There is a legitimate excuse

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for that. And granted, they still gave Kobe Brown that

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ten game run last season and that was awesome to see,

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but we haven't been able to develop young guys and

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find out what they can do. If Brandon Boston turned

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out to be something this season, would anyone here be

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that shocked, like totally shocked. It would probably be, oh, well, yeah,

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he never got you know, real time with the Clippers.

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Speaker 4: He got a few minutes here and there.

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Speaker 1: That's what you would all say.

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Speaker 3: That can't happen anymore, not on a team that does

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it look like they're winning it all this year.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it is their year.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't look like they're a true contender at

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the moment.

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Speaker 4: With Kawai still out, I mean they're not.

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Speaker 1: And I we all agree with you that he needs

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to play. We just have to wait.

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Speaker 4: It's not an easy solution.

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Speaker 1: It's not It's not another thing in the preseason that

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impressed us. I like what Tyler was saying about Zubots

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needs to try and be in the dpoy conversation. I

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also think that hints at how much responsibility he's going

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to have this year. He always has had a lot

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of responsibility, but I think with the backcourt that we're starting,

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Zoo's going to be asked to do even more on

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defense this year. I think he's capable. But I like

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hearing Tyler publicly gives you that kind of shit out

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type thing.

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Speaker 2: Does that specific thing, because we already know what Zoo

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is defensively, give you any concerns about how they intend

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to use him offensively or the amount of touches he's

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gonna get. Because sort of all off season we've talked

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about how do you make up for this twenty four

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this gaping twenty four points that's now off of the roster.

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And I think it's like, I mean, one answer or

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one portion of the equation comes down to with Viatsa

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Zubots and it still seems like he's not really priority there.

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not awful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he played in the summer too. I'm like, eh,

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like he's a guy where it's like whatever, that is

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a great question though, And now I do have that fear.

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I mean that I didn't really think about that, but that's.

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Speaker 2: Just I mean, it's just evident that he's still only

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thought about on one side of the ball, which is great.

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It is, it really is. This team needs easy buckets

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and they you know, they need other things to lean

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on offensively, and I'm hoping that we're not. We're not

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completely you know, turning a blind eye to that.

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Speaker 1: And it goes into Adamson too about like his stamina right,

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especially if your guard multiple positions, so that could also

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jeopardize some of the offensive touches.

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Speaker 3: I do worry about that. His cardio it's never looked great,

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and we all keep crying about him not playing enough minutes.

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But he has to do his part and actually be able.

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And now you can make the argument zoo bots at

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seventy percent out there is still better than your backup option.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, so there is. He needs to play

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thirty minutes a night. He does.

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Speaker 3: But I'll say this, as much as he talked about

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the defense was Zoo last night, pretty much every other

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games post game so far in the preseason, I think

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Coach lou has mentioned them getting either not getting him

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involved enough or not getting into his spots or deep

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enough in the post, or Zoo was moving too quickly

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or rushing shots.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 3: They have talked about his offense a lot and made

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the point that he's going to have to do more

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on that, and like, I think it's I think they know.

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Speaker 2: I hope do they know?

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Speaker 1: I hope they do too. Well. See, that's the thing.

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We don't know what's going to be the Like Will

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doesn't know what the catalyst of our year is going

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to be. Right, maybe it's Jordan Miller averaging thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Tell you our year. It's a feeling, you know, it's

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not it's not up here, it's in here, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Keeping with the center trend, I was pleasantly surprised by

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kay Jones getting better every game. I'm not saying that

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he's or whatever were you.

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Speaker 3: Saying, Anna, not last night he did not get better.

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Speaker 1: He was a little all over the place last night.

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Speaker 3: So the botus gave him more. He found him multiple times.

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Even alex Linn was too much more.

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Speaker 1: But it's exhead, so I was not surprised by that

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at all. He did stuff the statuet. Other than the

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bad defense, he did a whole bunch of stuff. If

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he can run the floor, dunk the ball, and protect

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the rimok, I'm with it. That's what we got, and

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it looks better than what I thought it would look

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like when the preseason started.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of looking good, I don't know if you noticed

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this at him. I was looking at kai Jones's stubble pattern.

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I think he'd go grow a great handlebar mustache. Hackler,

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no hackle.

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Speaker 1: Kai Jones with the handlebar, people be concerned about him again.

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Speaker 2: I think it looked.

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Speaker 3: Great like the bad guy in Raising Arizona's just straight

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up motorcycle handlebar mustache. Sure even more intimidating than his hops.

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He has the handlebar mustache.

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Speaker 1: That two footed dunk was crazy yesterday. That the and one, Yeah,

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the one he got in trends where he like got them. Yeah,

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that was nuts.

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Speaker 3: But did I hear Brian Seeman to use sky Jones

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last night after he did that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did use sky Jones.

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Speaker 3: We'll be talking about that. I I pat died that

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I called him sky Jones right before he had the

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game winning dunk against uh in Seattle against Portland.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna charge This is, of course the portion of

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the show where we uh we were. You are copyright claimed.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna vena request. You're gonna vena request, Brians, I

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at least want to shout out okay, but we can't

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be like again, I'm trying to go into the season positively.

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I liked I like the kai Jones preseason. Yeah, I'm

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sad for Obama. I would say I am out of

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gutted is the right word. But he looks bummed on

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the bench. He wants to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just I just hope we're not

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getting into a situation like last year where we have

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a backup center rushing back because they see their spot

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as kind of being jeopardized and writing about the longevity

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of that because I still am interested to see how

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Tai could could integrate Mobimba. I don't really understand the fit,

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like like you know, like in actuality, but I'm interested

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to see, like what what that would look like, you know,

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because we you know, we just didn't get a glimpse.

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So I'm curious and having another like legitimate seven Twitter

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I think is I think it's always good, especially for

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how small this team is.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Guy's got the spot.

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Speaker 4: Ky Jones fans were right, guys.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not We need to track him like Gianna's.

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Speaker 4: He's coming for Zoo next.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, limited minutes. I think he's going into the season.

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He's going to the season as best as he possibly could,

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which is good.

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Speaker 2: Is that deal done? When's that dealing with? Then?

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Speaker 1: I put this on Twitter. The deadline has to be

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like this weekend the games starting.

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Speaker 2: You at least get a weekends up, don't you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, right, it's gotta be soon, Adam, you

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know more about this stuff to.

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Speaker 4: Me probably right after we're done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you'll go live, Amir. I saw something last night.

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That was cool. I feel like Amir is a great

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in between vet for these young guys. We talked about

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how he's a finished product and he knows how to

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do his job in terms of me basketball. He's a

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good guy to be out there and teach these young

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guys who Jordan Miller also seems like someone who is

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very well aware of his situation and a like, you know,

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I got to prove that I can. I gotta take

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these minutes type thing. So I like Amir kind of

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being this weird sage piece like vet for the young

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guys or guys just need to the Clipper system in general.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to make it seem like I think

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today Jordan Miller is better than a mere coffee of course,

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but there's a real possibility by the end of this season,

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if you let him play consistently, he could be And

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there's a real possibility Emir can be. Amir is a

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guy you want for a team contending with the championship.

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Right now, the Clippers might not be that, So therefore

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you should probably be developing the guy with the higher

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ceiling to see where it goes over the guy that

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would be more useful in a situation where you're in

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the inner circle of contenders, you know what.

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Speaker 1: And they're not contenders. But you know what, coach I

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think would love to have a mirror on his team.

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Greg Popovich, Oh yeah, he seems like a good pop guy. Well,

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where are you at on a mirror? Coffee?

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Speaker 2: Trade him now?

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Speaker 1: He's so cheap. That's what's hard too. It's yeah, No, I.

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Speaker 2: Love a mirror. It's curious to see.

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Speaker 3: If you had to trade a mirror to get rid

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of PJ.

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Speaker 4: I would be upset, was you not? I mean, depending

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on what they get back.

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Speaker 3: But if if it's just like an adult dive thing

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to get rid of PJ, that.

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Speaker 2: Mean he was going to That'd be a brutal end

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to another guy that you know.

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Speaker 1: For him, good for you get out of it.

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Speaker 3: He wait, that means gets to go to kids? No, no, sorry, well.

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Speaker 1: No, I know what you're saying. It'd be a horrible

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end to a guy who's given everything for the He's

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been with the team for so long. But it's good

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that Bones done a mere three man lineup last night.

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Was has some interesting potential.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about how once again when Bones Highland

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gets a green light in real minutes. He looks good

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and gives effort on the defensive end. He had to

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steals in the first couple of minutes and got him

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to Terrence Man.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 3: He's always been better defensively than advertised from Denver Nuggets

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fans when he plays real minutes for the Clippers.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's great, but he.

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Speaker 3: Gives effort and he can get steals, and he's got

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you know, some wingspans to him on the perimeter.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just love seeing Bones actually getting a shot again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he showed out for sure. Defensively, he did have

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the green light. Shooting wise, that didn't go so well,

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but that's fine.

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Speaker 4: Was it four for thirteen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was one for seven from three. But I

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did like what you were saying, Like, I think the

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Bones thing. They're keeping him because like they don't know

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what's happening with KPg situation. Who also had a good

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preseason for a guy who hadn't played basketball so long

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and showed some juice of what the Clippers will need

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at some point. So I think you're I think you're

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correct about that.

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Speaker 4: KPJ fans were right.

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Speaker 1: Damn man, what he'll bring that over to this show,

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keep it over on Clippers Talk.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean they deserve a little bit of credit

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for KPJ cod the difference.

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Speaker 1: Between being right and saying, oh, maybe they were onto something. Okay,

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because being right as Kevin Porter Junior plays thirty minutes

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a game for this.

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Speaker 4: Team, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: That's stilly fair.

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Speaker 4: It's still preseason, but.

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Speaker 3: Both of them have showed some promise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, say that, and then anyone else individually. We're gonna

476
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talk team stuff for the next segment. But will anyone

477
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else individually pop to you this preseason?

478
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Speaker 2: I like, unexpectedly no, but it was interesting to get

479
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the first look of the team with James Harden at

480
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the helm. And yeah, not the most efficient, but it

481
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looked very much like preseason James Harden.

482
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Adam, any other individuals you would like to

483
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speak about who perhaps have insane fandoms that you want

484
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to shut out.

485
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Speaker 3: Elijah Harkless, hive, big.

486
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Speaker 1: Ups, heartless, crazy, he.

487
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Speaker 3: Brought it last night, you guys go heartless. Last season

488
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in the G League with that crazy defense he plays.

489
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He actually shot forty four percent from three in the

490
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G League last season. Oh that's better than Kobe that's

491
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,839
better than the Jordan Miller and we're talking over twenty

492
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games like it was kind of shit.

493
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Speaker 4: I don't this is somebody I don't know.

494
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Speaker 3: You should also mention Alonus Williams was really good in

495
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the preseason.

496
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's yeah. I hope he's he's sticking around. He

497
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seems like he seems like a guy who would learn

498
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from him here in a good way. Just specifically last night,

499
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Braxton Key love watching that guy go three for three.

500
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That was that was really fun. I was like, hell, yeah, dude,

501
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:28,640
go for it. The three he hit was nasty. All right,

502
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coming up, we're gonna talk team stuff offensively and defensively.

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Who knows. After this quick break on audio, if you're

504
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watching us, you get to see our faces and Adam's

505
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new haircut the whole time. If you'd like to watch us,

506
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you can find us on YouTube dot com, slash at

507
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Clippers podcast. We got ads and then more preseason talk

508
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coming up in three two.

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Speaker 2: What all right? We are back in it's the conclusion

510
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of the preseason, and I want to know how you

511
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guys are feeling better worse? H Adam, what are what

512
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,880
are you feeling better about? After this? This Los Angeles

513
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,119
Clippers preseason.

514
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Speaker 3: So I think it reinforced some things defensively and principles

515
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from Jeff Van Gundy that make you think and believe

516
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that they truly can be and should be a top

517
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ten defense this season.

518
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Speaker 4: If the twenty one to twenty two.

519
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,039
Speaker 3: Team that had less talent on that end could be

520
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eighth defensively, there's no reason this team can't do the

521
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same thing, even if Kawhi doesn't play a game. He

522
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,000
didn't play a game in the twenty one to twenty

523
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:35,039
two season for the Clippers. Paul George only played thirty one. Now,

524
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,640
James Harden playing more doesn't necessarily help you on the

525
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,079
defensive end, but we talked about earlier with the beats

526
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of zoobots and him having to do more defensively, I mean,

527
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maybe they have more point of attack defenders, like they

528
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:51,440
should be much better at keeping the ball in front

529
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of them. They should be much better than last season

530
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in that area. And there was a real effort on

531
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that end, no matter who was a vail and playing

532
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,279
night tonight in the preseason that I think and Coach

533
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,119
Lou talked about, you know, he dumped it down in

534
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,680
Honolulu to our team this year, the identity is playing hard.

535
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And obviously there's schemes, there's all kinds of stuff that's

536
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,599
included in there. But the point is they're gonna play hard,

537
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,079
they're gonna scrap, and that's what the fans want to see.

538
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:23,440
Is what coach brought up after their win Monday night

539
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,000
into it home. That's what the fans want to see.

540
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Maximize your talent, go out there and play above your

541
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heads at times and take down some giants and be

542
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,559
a defensive team that I don't know, that's fun to watch.

543
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the stocks right, the steals

544
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,960
and blocks for the Clippers in the preseason, they were

545
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second in steals and they were fifth in blocks.

546
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Speaker 3: So I went through it last night and because we've

547
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,720
talked a lot about preseason defensive rating upon a field

548
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,240
goal percentage and it's fun. And they finished, or at

549
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:58,759
least after last night, they were number one in both

550
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of those. And I think there's some more season games

551
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,279
today and then it's over, so the numbers will change.

552
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:06,400
But I went to last year's preseason to see who

553
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,640
was number one, yeah, and to see who were the

554
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480
top ten defense defenses in the preseason and how that

555
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:13,920
lined up with the regular season, and it was kind

556
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,480
of all over the place. Like the Toronto Raptors were

557
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,400
number one in the preseason last year and I think

558
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,720
they finished bottom ten. Yeah, there wasn't a lot you

559
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:27,720
could say, oh this, Yeah, there were a couple that

560
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,440
were close that, like, okay, there were fifth in the preseason,

561
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they ended fourth in the regular season. There were like

562
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,839
a couple, but it was just a mess overall.

563
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Speaker 4: There were also just as many that.

564
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Speaker 3: Were good in the preseason are really bad in the

565
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regular season.

566
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Speaker 1: But I do I think that it does thin what

567
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,839
you were saying where guys were trying, like specifically with

568
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,799
steals and blocks. It's like, all right, I guess the

569
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:49,799
efforts there kind of top to bottom on a per

570
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game basis, because totals are you know. But another point

571
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:58,079
from La Clippers film, who had a great just great

572
00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:02,960
day on Twitter, you mentioned the defensive chops. If you

573
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,839
said the Clippers have just enough athleticism and defensive chops

574
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,839
between Zoo Derek Jones Junior at point of attack man

575
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,359
guarding up Chris Dunn Kawhi if alive, but toom that

576
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,640
they should find themselves in quite a bit of coin

577
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:20,400
flip games and in general a far more competitive team

578
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,920
than a team with an over under of thirty seven

579
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,279
and a half wains, which I think is true. Like

580
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:28,799
the amount of individual cable defenders. Again, the Clippers have

581
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,599
been the king of on paper, but on paper they

582
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,079
got a solid, annoying ass defensive team to play.

583
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's more than just the collective hole

584
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:45,680
playing really hard. They actually have talented guys individually defensively

585
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:49,079
that on paper have proven it in the NBA at

586
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:52,559
this level. So there's real reasons to think that it

587
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is going to carry over for them. Is the regular

588
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:57,680
season not to be in the number one defense, but

589
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to being a top ten defense, it has to be.

590
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Speaker 1: Will what are you excited for? Offensively?

591
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Speaker 5: I mean I teased it last segment, but uh, just

592
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seeing James, seeing James Harden run the show, I think

593
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,359
there's a lot of interesting sort of two man pick

594
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and roll things you can get into there.

595
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Speaker 2: And I'm really interested to see too, which we've we've

596
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:21,400
talked about a little bit before on the show, is

597
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like how they find ways to have him not have

598
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:27,160
to necessarily carry the ball up all the time to

599
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,359
initiate the offense, whether that's Derek Jones Junior, or getting

600
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:33,480
the ball somewhere else and just sort of initiating side,

601
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,039
like initiating side, pick and roll, have him working off

602
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,279
ball a little bit. I'm curious to see how he looks.

603
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,880
I mean, he's gonna look great if if Norm is

604
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actually passing, but I'm curious to see how he looks

605
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:46,200
off ball when Norm has the ball in his hands.

606
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:55,000
It's like you said, it's the the good problem, the

607
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,799
good and bad problem for the Clipper team this year

608
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,000
is like how many questions there are? And I think

609
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that Harden is like the most stable sort of offensive

610
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,839
system that they've had, regardless of whether or not Kawhi

611
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,440
or Paul George are on the floor. You know what

612
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,799
I mean. This is like this is the guy, he's

613
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kind of he's running the show, and there are just

614
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:15,559
there are a lot of possibilities and as we talked

615
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about throughout the preseason, I mean just youth plus athleticism

616
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,079
around Harden. I think he's a great combo for where

617
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:23,720
he's at right now in his Game two and it

618
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:25,960
is an exciting new look for this Clippers team.

619
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Speaker 1: And I like that they established throughout the whole preseason

620
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,079
right Adam you talked about like, oh, they established we're

621
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gonna work hard. They've established this is the James Harden offense,

622
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Like this is his offensive system to run, which there's

623
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,160
a lot worse guys to be running it. He averaged

624
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,160
a whole bunch of assistant in the preseason. A lot

625
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,119
of turnovers too, but that's what the preseason was for.

626
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But I like that we've talked about offensive identity before.

627
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,119
With this team, it's it's James Harden. They're kind of

628
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,039
going twenty.

629
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Speaker 2: Nine opponent turnovers a game every game.

630
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Speaker 1: But I just like that they've they've hashed that out.

631
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:05,039
This is Harden's team. He's in the best shape of

632
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:06,720
his life, which is the first time they've ever said

633
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:12,880
that about an athlete. Much like much like Adam, But

634
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,799
it's gonna be good. Harden's gonna make I hope they

635
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:17,839
don't grind him down too much because we do need

636
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,440
to rely on him a whole lot, and he played

637
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,279
a lot last year.

638
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:26,039
Speaker 2: If you can run, though, like Harden is gonna find you,

639
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,119
you know what I mean, Like, if you can like

640
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,319
you've got and we have those guys now, like guys

641
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,200
who are you know, like physically capable and of the

642
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,680
age to be doing doing that kind of stuff.

643
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Speaker 4: That's what's exciting.

644
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,519
Speaker 3: You have so many runouts, advanced passes, hit ahead passes.

645
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: Whatever you want to call him.

646
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,599
Speaker 3: Uh, I like the mortar fire passes where it's just

647
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,400
over the top.

648
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Speaker 4: Of the defense.

649
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,559
Speaker 3: Harden finds you and we're gonna see a lot of

650
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athletic plays. Yeah, a lot of dunks because you've got

651
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:59,119
Terrence Man, you got Derek Jones Junior in the starting lineup,

652
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,799
Norman Powk get out and transition, and Cherry Pick a

653
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:05,039
little bit too off the bench, and Mirr coffee kp

654
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,559
J Bones Highland. He found him for one of those

655
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,359
long passes. I think in the game in Seattle, like,

656
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,839
there's so many guys like Kai most of the most

657
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,000
importantly funny is I don't think so far in the

658
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:23,839
preseason that James and Kai have been able to connect.

659
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,880
I think on two opportunities on an oop it actually

660
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ironically didn't happen where Kai missed playing. They had a

661
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,720
little communication afterwards where Hard got on them a little bit.

662
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Speaker 4: It's funny.

663
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,559
Speaker 3: You would you would have think you would think that

664
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if any guy is lobbing it to Kai, it's James Harden.

665
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Speaker 4: It'll manifest in.

666
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: The regular season. But it's just funny how those two.

667
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:48,799
Everybody else is connected with Kai, but James Harden.

668
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,799
Speaker 1: That's gonna be That'll be a large oop, is my

669
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,680
is my prediction for when that connection finally happens. What

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do you maybe what do you maybe feel not so

671
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,000
good about heading into the regular season? Adam, We'll start

672
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with you.

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Speaker 4: Is this the COI segment?

674
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: Uh? No, that's the that's actually what we feel neutral

675
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,639
about because that, I guess we can talk about.

676
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Speaker 2: Should we talk about that? Hecause everybody was really really

677
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,800
upset about the you know about the about the new designation.

678
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,519
How is it any different from what we've been told

679
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for the last six months.

680
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Speaker 1: He's he's been in definite.

681
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:34,679
Speaker 2: He's been in definite.

682
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was crazy, especially because the article is not

683
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,360
bringing anything new. All it does is quote stuff for

684
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,719
Media Day and the Lawrence Frank coach Lou presser of

685
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,039
the week before. It's like, this is nothing new at all.

686
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,159
This is called an educated guest. He hasn't practiced yet,

687
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,239
so how is he going to be playing next week?

688
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: And I understand, obviously I understand with fans and like

689
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,000
see and ticket holders like being frustrated at not knowing,

690
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,920
but like basically, when they're telling you there's no change

691
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,800
in status, that means the timeline to return is in death. Yes, yeah,

692
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,480
you know, like it's we haven't been told anything other

693
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:19,199
than that this entire time. So I don't like maybe

694
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,840
not being forthright with the procedure. I do think that

695
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,760
that kind of stuff is a little bits.

696
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,519
Speaker 3: And Joey Lynn asked a beautiful question about that to

697
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:30,280
Coach Lou the first question last night.

698
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird.

699
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:34,199
Speaker 2: And again the Clippers, though, aren't the only team that

700
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,920
does that, you know, so.

701
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Speaker 1: Well, we just happened to have the guy who's hurt

702
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,679
the most, which sucks.

703
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: But we did hear that there was a setback? Yeah,

704
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,079
I mean law posted from the Athletic earlier the day

705
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,199
that there's no setback. There hasn't been a setback. Well,

706
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,639
apparently he's talking about since training camp or since September.

707
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:55,599
But then Joey Lynn, the first question of Coach Lou

708
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:58,679
last night was about what was happening with Team USA,

709
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,320
and while there wasn't a setback during training camp with

710
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,440
Team USA, apparently right afterwards there was a setback, and

711
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,280
that's likely what has scared them into being more cautious

712
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,480
now because they already had one back in what would

713
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,960
that be July, yes, late June. Yeah, I think it

714
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,920
was significant. The definite thing was not the step setback.

715
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,199
Clarification actually makes sense.

716
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like with the timeline thing, at this point,

717
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:31,519
I'm just like me personally, I'm like, I don't give

718
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:34,519
a shit about the timeline. He's out definitely, I don't

719
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:37,800
know when. And the Olympics thing is also I think

720
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,920
there's an aspect of you know, the team can't tell

721
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,800
you to not play in the Olympics, right, like they

722
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,880
can do some weird thing like designate you was injured,

723
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,960
but Kawi wanted to get a gold medal, Like it's

724
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,000
hard for a team relationship wise, you'd be like, no,

725
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:56,039
you can't do that. Yeah, which I'm just saying that

726
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,400
plays into the weirdness factor, like why was he even there?

727
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,559
It's like, well, the team doesn't have to give you permission,

728
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,039
so like.

729
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,159
Speaker 3: But yeah, team encourages their guy once they're once they

730
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,079
want to do it, every team gets behind him.

731
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: This is great, this is awesome.

732
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: Joe El Embiid's going to play let's get behind him

733
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,480
six fans right.

734
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,039
Speaker 1: Like last chance to win a gold medal. Two. But yeah,

735
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,519
I mean if you thought he was gonna play opening night,

736
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:23,119
I just.

737
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: Don't, guys, wait to see if he practices first. When

738
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,119
he practices, when that is announced, that's a big deal.

739
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's freak out. I also remember, uh it made

740
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:39,239
me remember Adam Urina's live stream when the when the

741
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,199
soreness first got announced and we went on and we

742
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:46,880
were just we were freaking out, rightfully, so rightfully, so

743
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,079
I wish it wasn't rightfully.

744
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: Everyone then who was saying stuff like, guys, they're just

745
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,760
a little managing him to get him ready for the playoffs.

746
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,039
This is all a rouge so he can have a

747
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:00,320
long postseason run. He'll be ready to go Game one.

748
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, thanks.

749
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,599
Speaker 1: All right, what did we actually if possible?

750
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: It was a ruse and then there was a setback?

751
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:14,679
Speaker 1: Oh shit, wait, give me give me the gant chart

752
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,280
for where the ruse timeline starts. And then the setback

753
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,159
comes in. I need to see the time stamps. All right,

754
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000
we got talk about ten minutes left. What did we

755
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,119
not like in the preseason that we hope doesn't carry

756
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:34,360
over my big bugaboo field goal attempts. I don't want

757
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,639
us to be losing field goal attempts every game, and

758
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:40,519
it felt like we were doing that except for the

759
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:43,920
last preseason game. Fun fact, I know we're talking about

760
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,519
preseason stats. This is a fun preseason stat that does

761
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:49,519
has nothing to do with the regular season. I just

762
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:53,199
thought it was funny the Breakers had more field goal

763
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,239
attempts than the Clippers in the preseason, which made me laugh.

764
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,639
But we're gonna losing. The possession battle is something that

765
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:04,000
I think is going to contribute to a lot of

766
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,719
Clippers losses, just like it did last year.

767
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: Some of that could be what was their free throw

768
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,800
versus free throw against in the preseason attempts?

769
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: Let me pull it up.

770
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: We need an because obviously offensive rebounds are concerned. The

771
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:25,440
rebounding attributes to that or contributes because that's one way

772
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,800
to lose the possession battle. Turnovers contribute to that. But overall,

773
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,440
even though the Clippers, outside of one game, turned it

774
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,039
over twenty times per game, it felt like every game,

775
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:37,440
including one where they got twenty nine turnovers Monday Night

776
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,559
from Dallas, they were winning the turnover battle.

777
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I guess field goal attempts also just

778
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,559
come into offensive system too. That's where the transition buckets

779
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:51,519
will help, right, is getting those quick buckets for the Clippers.

780
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,119
But turn the battle over isn't going to help that.

781
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,599
I cannot find the I guess I can look at

782
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,880
personal fouls per game. They were one of the better

783
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,800
fouling teams. They only they were top, There were sixth or.

784
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 4: Twenty out the hell out everyone.

785
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just backing out of.

786
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: Physical defense.

787
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: They were. Yeah, they were pretty solid at not fouling people.

788
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,119
They had the sixth fewest fouls per game in the preseason,

789
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:18,920
which for a team that was putting a preference on

790
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,800
steals and blocks, which are physical things. I think that's

791
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,039
a nice correlation to see.

792
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 3: But that also means the opposition is getting up more

793
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,239
attempts because they're not at the free throw line. And

794
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,360
if it goes the other way, if the Clippers were

795
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,199
getting to the free throw line more, they're not getting

796
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:34,400
as many shot attempts up.

797
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: The Clippers were getting to the free throw line, they were,

798
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:40,119
They were ninth in free throw attempts per game.

799
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,159
Speaker 4: All right, they got a rebound better, Oh.

800
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: They got a rebound better the rebounding is like, that's

801
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,360
a big Terrence Man thing. That's a big Derek Jones

802
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,000
junior thing.

803
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: That's Norman Powell and the starting lineup. Something Will has

804
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,079
brought up, like the size issue is going to be

805
00:40:57,159 --> 00:41:00,679
there regardless if Norman is playing better defense overall, we

806
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,280
think he will, but there's still a size issue there

807
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,360
when it comes to the boards.

808
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kay's gonna have to grab boards too. Hell yeah

809
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:12,039
he didn't.

810
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's not likes every night hopefully.

811
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah four times.

812
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, those Pacific Division matchups, those are always heat. Will. Yeah, well,

813
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,719
this is the most important game. I circle every Pacific

814
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,239
Division I say, this is my finals. I yeah, I

815
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,000
gotta put in We're going to Vegas this weekend. I

816
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,800
got to put a huge bet down on the Clippers

817
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239
winning the Pacific Division. Will be the only guy in

818
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,559
Vegas putting that thing down.

819
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 4: Get great odds.

820
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: Don't they have him as last.

821
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,559
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, something like that. So I'll see you guys

822
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:46,760
at the bank and about every many months until the

823
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,519
season's over. Well, anything negative that you think is going

824
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,360
to carry over to the end of the season. Before

825
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,039
we let these Clippers fans enjoy their weekend.

826
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked a little bit about the size issues.

827
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,760
I mean that that's something that's still TBD. Can they

828
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,599
get younger going? Can they get younger going to the season.

829
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:06,639
That's something I'd like to change.

830
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: Jordan Miller.

831
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:14,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, more Jordan Miller.

832
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:15,159
Speaker 2: I suppose more.

833
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Miller's great. Hopefully the team doesn't look horrible when

834
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,960
Harden's off the court.

835
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, did you guys hear his post game last night?

836
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,400
Is Jordan Miller great on the court?

837
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:27,599
Speaker 1: Like?

838
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: He gave some of the most articulate, just high level answers.

839
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,800
I couldn't believe some of the stuff he was saying.

840
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,039
Speaker 1: It was so mature, That's what I was saying. He's

841
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:40,159
a sponge. He's aware of his spot.

842
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,519
Speaker 3: Like it's for talking about how he's frustrated. That was

843
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:47,519
the best way ever to do that. Yeah, the way

844
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:48,159
he handled it.

845
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,119
Speaker 1: I don't think he learned that from PJ. Tucker would be.

846
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to carry over from the preseason.

847
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:01,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, PJ Tucker as a whole. All right, we are

848
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:05,119
going to be back on Monday with a preview of

849
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,559
Game one against the Suns. We should all be at

850
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:11,320
that game, which will be very fun first regul season,

851
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,760
give it into it, domb the wall is going to

852
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,199
be crazy. If you see Will or I in Las Vegas,

853
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:20,280
say hey, if you see us, If you see us

854
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,239
doing something stupid, you did not see us. Well, where

855
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,280
can these people shout from the rooftops that they listen

856
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,840
to our podcast? Yeah?

857
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,159
Speaker 2: Yeah you can. You can tell your friends or shout

858
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:38,320
at whomever to listen to this podcast anybody anywhere anywhere

859
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,679
you get your podcasts if you happen to listen. I

860
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,360
think I misquoted this on the other thing, you if

861
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,679
you haven't listened on Spotify, you can now leave comments

862
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,280
on a per episode basis, which I just noticed on

863
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,679
another podcast. So yeah, if you like doing that, go

864
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,880
ahead do it. You can leave a RADI to review

865
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,119
over on Apple Podcasts if you listen over there, and

866
00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:59,000
if you listen to any other audio platform I you

867
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:00,840
don't know, you can send us an email or something.

868
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,320
But you can comment on every video over on YouTube

869
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,639
dot com that's slashed at Clippers podcast, which is you know,

870
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:12,400
the best viewing experiences on television.

871
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:17,199
Speaker 1: Very true, Adam. One positive thing to send these Clippers

872
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:17,559
fans out.

873
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: Brian Seeman used my nickname for Kai Jones Sky Jones,

874
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,039
and it's the perfect nickname.

875
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:26,199
Speaker 2: I love that this segment has just become Adam's personal validation.

876
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna get the law off this involved, dude.

877
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,599
Speaker 4: No, I've honored uh.

878
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,199
Speaker 3: I think the majority of Clippers fans from what I've

879
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,320
seen and even us here after preseason where they went

880
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,239
four and one and the only reason they lost a

881
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,440
game is because there was a game winner in Honolu

882
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,280
by Golden State at the last second, I think most

883
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,039
people are more optimistic coming out of preseason, even.

884
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,119
Speaker 4: With the Kawhi news.

885
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: I would agree that was.

886
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,519
Speaker 3: Not easy for this to you to be able to

887
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:00,199
pull off.

888
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,519
Speaker 1: You know what, It's almost like the preseason is a

889
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,000
is a much more longer version of that one episode

890
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,400
we did a couple of weeks ago where through forty

891
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,239
five minutes we went from this team sucks to oh no,

892
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:12,960
we got it.

893
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:16,079
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to be our year,

894
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:17,800
but it was our preseason.

895
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,159
Speaker 4: Guys.

896
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,119
Speaker 1: Will knows it's going to be our year, so we'll see.

897
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:24,000
It's the baut this year. Will decide if Adam knows

898
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:25,840
the true fate of the team or if Will knows

899
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,039
the truth fate of the team.

900
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 4: Where are you, Chuck.

901
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: Play Adam's firm call on the fate of this team.

902
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,519
Speaker 4: I don't even have one.

903
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:37,079
Speaker 1: I've said playing team.

904
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: Played Jordan Miller is my firm call.

905
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,039
Speaker 1: That's fair. I've said high playing team and I'm sticking

906
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:42,400
by it.

907
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: On cowards, riding the line of cowards.

908
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,079
Speaker 1: I planted my flag very high on the play in.

909
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what will has us starting too, but

910
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:54,719
we end up.

911
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

912
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 4: He has a tenth.

913
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:07,079
Speaker 5: All right, that about brainiest championship ever won, the greatest championship.

914
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: Start engraving the names on the LARRYO. B right now,

915
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,039
mister Silver. We will be back for y'all on Monday,

916
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:14,639
and as always, let's go clips.